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| 9s | tastic mod sponge who's going to be |
| 11s | talking to us about rewards cool |
| 14s | um yeah so I'm mod sponge |
| 16s | um AKA Brad |
| 18s | um on the combat Council currently uh |
| 21s | I'm a Content developer previously QA uh |
| 24s | boom dragons for issues I know I'm |
| 27s | currently heavily involved in a large |
| 30s | majority of the rewards that makes it |
| 32s | into game yeah so just for some you know |
| 35s | background contacts the majority of the |
| 37s | pvm related or a number of the people |
| 38s | related words that the elder god was |
| 40s | dungeon were were you know designed in |
| 43s | part by you as well as some loot tables |
| 44s | as well yeah |
| 46s | um so kind of from |
| 49s | I want to say Rex between Rex matriarchs |
| 52s | and kind of Zuck I was kind of involved |
| 55s | with a majority of the items that made |
| 57s | it into the game at that point |
| 60s | um and then since then |
| 63s | um I've had some involvement in things |
| 64s | like the the Dyna arrows |
| 66s | um |
| 67s | and just a large chunk to be honest yeah |
| 70s | yeah I mean I mean I you've had a hand |
| 72s | in a hole yeah kind of everybody |
| 75s | but uh if we can get into some some |
| 77s | specific ones yeah absolutely sure uh |
| 79s | you were behind examinated and safe here |
| 81s | I think early ones from City of senison |
| 84s | yep sentistan I should say |
| 87s | um |
| 87s | so what was the inspiration kind of |
| 89s | behind those spells because I think they |
| 92s | really transformed the approach to Magic |
| 93s | in the way you play the game |
| 95s | so when I got brought on to City of |
| 99s | Centerstone |
| 100s | um there was some |
| 102s | vague ideas for awards already |
| 105s | um and it was very much let's |
| 107s | celebrate the past quests so like |
| 110s | um I think it's template sentenced and |
| 112s | we had ancient curses it's like the |
| 114s | rewards at that point were |
| 116s | Loosely upgrades to ancient curses |
| 119s | um but there was kind of a roadblock |
| 121s | there in |
| 123s | how do you buff ancient curses like |
| 125s | especially when you have already tier 99 |
| 127s | exactly when you have things like the |
| 129s | the next ones |
| 130s | we can't we can't go more powerful than |
| 132s | that because then you just completely |
| 134s | eviscerate in the next yeah |
| 137s | um |
| 138s | had some ideas but ultimately it changed |
| 141s | to where let's celebrate a different |
| 143s | part of the same series with ancient |
| 145s | Magics |
| 146s | um and we don't have to worry about that |
| 147s | problem right now |
| 149s | um so it very much was a homage to |
| 151s | ancient Magics that's why it's obviously |
| 153s | in the book |
| 154s | um but introducing what is essentially |
| 156s | upgrades that |
| 157s | was supposed to make players feel the |
| 160s | same way that they felt when they first |
| 161s | did ancients and got those obviously ice |
| 162s | barrages iconic right even the sound of |
| 165s | it I can still hear I'm not sure if |
| 166s | that's a nightmare or a good thing |
| 168s | um |
| 168s | but going from there |
| 172s | um first designing them they were |
| 174s | actually kind of all the same |
| 177s | um where they were called shift spells |
| 180s | and oh what was the other yeah |
| 183s | it was shift and I think it was storm so |
| 187s | it was like I shift blood shift Shadow |
| 189s | shift and just very much following the |
| 191s | exact same Suite as uh ancient Magics |
| 195s | um but it was boring yeah it was just |
| 197s | the exact same thing they had some other |
| 199s | unique Buffs |
| 200s | um |
| 202s | but this kind of transpired to where |
| 206s | I wanted to do things a little bit |
| 207s | differently not just do flat effects and |
| 210s | have more player interaction |
| 212s | um so that's why we've exsanguinate and |
| 214s | insight fear you have the stack building |
| 216s | you get you have decision making on when |
| 218s | you actually release these effects |
| 219s | obviously Insight fear has the the |
| 221s | passive part of it shooting out the |
| 223s | spikes |
| 224s | but |
| 225s | you also have the tsunami portion which |
| 227s | is obviously you have choice and when |
| 228s | you you use that and at this point |
| 230s | tsunami wasn't really used |
| 232s | um so that one of my goals was to have |
| 236s | some lesser used abilities actually mean |
| 239s | something again |
| 240s | um and ultimates is something that |
| 243s | I personally feel kind of passionate |
| 246s | about because I feel like |
| 248s | up until that point RuneScape plays a |
| 249s | kind of railroad into just using damage |
| 251s | boosting alts and nothing else |
| 253s | um so I really wanted to yeah the game |
| 255s | has all these but the majority of them |
| 257s | are just they're just useless exactly |
| 259s | um so I wanted to make them feel useful |
| 261s | and try to slowly push players away from |
| 264s | the damage boosting same rotation every |
| 267s | time just get that up unload |
| 270s | um but yeah that's kind of where they |
| 272s | came from I I think they really |
| 275s | transformed the way that you approach |
| 277s | playing RuneScape with magic just in the |
| 281s | sense of accumulating stacks on hit yeah |
| 283s | and I think the the big pointer I think |
| 286s | it made a significant difference in |
| 287s | previous sort of Stack based reward |
| 289s | spaces they clear after like five |
| 291s | seconds yeah six seconds yeah and |
| 293s | because of that you feel like you have |
| 295s | to consistently let's say for a mutated |
| 297s | dazing shot you have to use it basically |
| 299s | off cooldown or else it takes everything |
| 301s | and that was you know I think for a lot |
| 303s | of places that wasn't very fun or easy |
| 305s | to do you miss a game tick to lose all |
| 306s | of the stacks |
| 308s | and I think it's a really good it's in a |
| 312s | good place where your Stacks retain for |
| 313s | I believe it's 20 seconds something like |
| 315s | that could even be more than that at one |
| 317s | point it was reduced it was I think it |
| 319s | was only like six seconds at one point |
| 320s | and |
| 322s | um gaining sanguine Stacks reduced your |
| 325s | insights fear Stacks at one point yeah |
| 329s | um the idea obviously being that you |
| 330s | only used one and you kind of were set |
| 333s | in that |
| 335s | um |
| 336s | we opened that up because it just wasn't |
| 338s | fun to use and that was a big thing that |
| 339s | came out of play testing it was just |
| 341s | like just just release it make it more |
| 343s | fun so yeah I did that no I think it is |
| 346s | I think there's some really good counter |
| 347s | play between being able to use both and |
| 349s | most players won't use both if you do |
| 351s | you gain a little bit of extra exactly |
| 354s | yeah but it's not nearly in the same |
| 356s | category as something like having to |
| 358s | switch on a piece of gear for one |
| 359s | ability yes you can actually switch to |
| 361s | it continue that on for a very long time |
| 363s | you've got it's like 40 seconds on one |
| 365s | spell 20 on the other yeah and because |
| 367s | of that it's it's almost it's a form of |
| 369s | switchscape uh or a you know an input |
| 372s | you have to make but it feels very |
| 374s | valuable for what it is and also |
| 376s | conversely it doesn't feel like |
| 377s | something that you have to do I |
| 379s | personally don't do it and have never |
| 380s | done it that's that's the ideal |
| 383s | switchscape is where you can do it you |
| 387s | don't have to and you don't feel like |
| 388s | you have to |
| 390s | um obviously there is some issues with |
| 391s | it spells swapping our game's a bit |
| 393s | clunky |
| 394s | um it's something that I'd like to |
| 395s | address |
| 397s | um but it's also a kind of a cool reward |
| 400s | space where in the future we could |
| 401s | potentially open it up where I don't |
| 403s | know you have an item that lets you have |
| 404s | access to both at once or two different |
| 406s | spell effects um and it kind of it just |
| 408s | opens up for us it's yeah yeah for sure |
| 410s | along with that same update you've got |
| 413s | oh you're he's ready for it he's ready |
| 415s | for it we've also got the anime dead |
| 419s | spell I thought he's gonna say smart |
| 420s | clouds no |
| 421s | um yep yep |
| 422s | so anime dead changed a lot about the |
| 426s | game I think I mean the first thing it |
| 428s | did as a positive is it gave tank gear a |
| 431s | purpose for for a lot of players and |
| 433s | took something that was previously seen |
| 435s | as dead content and and gave it some |
| 437s | very you know high level effective |
| 439s | strong end game use cases and that I |
| 443s | mean I think most would would agree |
| 445s | that's a positive |
| 446s | um but it also |
| 448s | allowed for |
| 450s | effectively a tank based on your gear |
| 453s | setup as opposed to tanking based on |
| 454s | your ability to use the combat system |
| 457s | and the abilities that play Within it um |
| 459s | so how do you how do you feel about that |
| 462s | and being able to choose to tank based |
| 464s | on your class |
| 466s | or your gear equipped this is something |
| 468s | that I wanted very much where if I'm |
| 472s | playing as the tank I'm not going into |
| 474s | Power Armor because that's kind of odd |
| 476s | yeah um you don't you don't actually |
| 477s | know this but |
| 479s | um way back when before city of centers |
| 481s | and I actually jumped in your Twitch |
| 483s | chat and said hey Ryan or RS guy was |
| 486s | probably back then hey Horace guy what |
| 488s | do you think about tank armor you were |
| 490s | doing Telos at this point yeah I was |
| 492s | like what do you think about tank armor |
| 494s | I do not think it's kind of irrelevant |
| 495s | and he was like nah tank arm is fine |
| 498s | it's used at high and rage Telos 4K I |
| 501s | think players were using um the raids |
| 503s | armor it's used like oh it has its place |
| 505s | and that's kind of like it's very odd |
| 507s | though that to go from nothing up to 90 |
| 510s | and there's no in between |
| 513s | um |
| 514s | so I really wanted to |
| 516s | to give what felt like a use to tank |
| 518s | armor because that it literally there |
| 520s | was no purpose to it right so you're |
| 522s | putting this on me this is all your |
| 524s | fault every every problem that there is |
| 526s | with the tank class and Anime dead |
| 528s | actually yeah it's caused by you |
| 531s | um no but |
| 533s | it is Def I'm I am happy with how it's |
| 538s | performing obviously it is on the strong |
| 540s | side right now but I like that players |
| 542s | see it as an option that if I want to be |
| 545s | bulky |
| 546s | I can do that and I change my gear I |
| 548s | don't just put on a shield and switch |
| 550s | for one second and do a red switch right |
| 551s | yeah um before this they're |
| 554s | in Niche cases there was tank class but |
| 557s | even then you probably just shoved on |
| 558s | the shield and power armor right |
| 560s | yeah I think it depends there are |
| 562s | certain bosses definitely across the |
| 563s | whole game where tank gear could have |
| 565s | had a use or could have been you know |
| 568s | needed or potentially helpful in |
| 570s | learning but not in the way that it is |
| 572s | now where if you're learning something |
| 573s | you're whether it's Crypt bloom or it's |
| 576s | ganodermic whatever it is you're gonna |
| 577s | be going in Magic and tank gear without |
| 579s | any dead and it's it's it just it |
| 581s | reduces so much damage I remember this |
| 584s | is such a such a niche thing I was |
| 585s | researching for solo Beastmaster on a |
| 588s | super under-leveled Iron Man that had |
| 589s | garbage gear and we did a calculation |
| 591s | it's an hour-long boss fight with the |
| 594s | world's worth setup and you're running |
| 595s | around and I'm doing 30k damage per |
| 597s | minute running around constantly yeah |
| 600s | and in that kind of setup we did a |
| 603s | calculation for how many hit Splats am I |
| 605s | taking and even though anime dead was |
| 607s | only minimizing my damage taken by like |
| 609s | 70 per hit which doesn't seem like a |
| 611s | whole lot when it adds up the fight it |
| 615s | was about a hundred thousand damage Yeah |
| 617s | Yeah a hundred thousand so yeah for for |
| 620s | learning things it's definitely it's got |
| 622s | its place yes |
| 624s | um probably a bit over tuned right now |
| 626s | I'm sure you'd agree |
| 628s | um |
| 629s | I'm not super keen on |
| 632s | how |
| 634s | how it's completely changed some matters |
| 636s | to be like you just AFK this thing now |
| 637s | because you you don't need enough damage |
| 639s | but that in part |
| 642s | in part I feel like that's also kind of |
| 644s | soul split to an extent yeah I like |
| 647s | um if you had one or the other you |
| 650s | wouldn't be able to AFK these situations |
| 651s | right you'd either be taking too much |
| 653s | damage where soul split can't sustain |
| 654s | you or you'd have no sustain at all |
| 657s | where you'd still die after a time |
| 660s | um I I would agree with that I think |
| 662s | they work well together because animate |
| 664s | dead allows you to take little enough |
| 666s | damage that saw split along with all the |
| 668s | other power creep allows you to deal |
| 669s | enough that your HP is going to be a net |
| 671s | positive at most bosses in the game yeah |
| 674s | um |
| 674s | so whilst I want to do something about |
| 678s | animate dead |
| 680s | um and I do think we should to an extent |
| 684s | um we could for any for example move |
| 687s | where animate dead calculates its damage |
| 689s | reduction to the beginning of the combat |
| 690s | system still at the end |
| 692s | um as an example say you've got a 2 000 |
| 695s | hit in coming you protect your melee cut |
| 697s | that in half and then animate dead |
| 699s | knocks 500 off the end your end hits |
| 701s | 500. if you throw that to the front 2K |
| 704s | becomes 1500 then half that you take a |
| 706s | 750 so yeah it kind of doesn't scale as |
| 709s | well with damage reduction and that is |
| 712s | an option |
| 713s | what I'd like to see before that is |
| 717s | there's obviously gonna be people that |
| 718s | don't like this and this is my opinion |
| 720s | but |
| 721s | if soul split is too strong especially |
| 723s | with the current DPS numbers that |
| 725s | players can output and whether that |
| 727s | should be addressed first |
| 729s | um although there is also arguments to |
| 731s | that I'd like to see what we can do with |
| 733s | Malay and range tanks before even |
| 736s | addressing that because obviously yes |
| 739s | you go every situation in Magic tank |
| 741s | armor now if if you want to be tanky but |
| 743s | that's because there's no good options |
| 744s | for Ranger melee and that kind of shows |
| 747s | where tank gear was before this right |
| 749s | yeah this this kind of shows the impact |
| 750s | it can have so what can we do with |
| 753s | Malian range tanks to make them cool and |
| 755s | effective and use them in all these |
| 756s | situations |
| 757s | I think when you're balancing animate |
| 760s | dead or anime dead and Bloom if you |
| 762s | want to kind of bunch them all together |
| 764s | as a as a 10 class |
| 766s | do you think that one of the reasons why |
| 768s | crippling around my dad get the label of |
| 770s | overpowered do you think it might be |
| 772s | because power gear isn't actually that |
| 775s | powerful |
| 776s | because the difference between wearing |
| 778s | full Crypt Bloom with animate dead and |
| 781s | wearing your set of tectonic it's off |
| 784s | the top of my head it's about a five |
| 785s | percent increase in damage output so do |
| 788s | you think another way to balance that |
| 789s | potentially would be to in the future |
| 791s | when you're looking at you know reward |
| 793s | spaces coming out with power gear that |
| 796s | is actually more powerful yes absolutely |
| 800s | um there's two kind of parts to this so |
| 802s | one is like a high tier power armor sets |
| 805s | ceramic and whatever |
| 808s | um they don't do anything they're kind |
| 809s | of they're kind of trash right they just |
| 811s | they're super vanilla they're super |
| 813s | boring they don't actually impact your |
| 815s | damage it's like I think the difference |
| 818s | between sirenica Elite sirenic is like |
| 820s | under one percent yeah it's it's |
| 821s | negligible it's functionally the air |
| 823s | equivalent |
| 824s | um so what do we do to make them more |
| 827s | impactful |
| 829s | um and there is some things that have |
| 831s | been discussed |
| 833s | um on what they can be at the same time |
| 835s | obviously you don't want to push players |
| 836s | power too high |
| 838s | um but there's another side of what |
| 840s | about making |
| 842s | spells and Buffs that impact the player |
| 845s | with power gear how they do like animate |
| 847s | dead impacts of power and player in tank |
| 849s | gear |
| 850s | so like people joke around animate life |
| 853s | or something |
| 855s | like that classic |
| 857s | um |
| 858s | but if if we had something like that or |
| 860s | if we had some abilities at scale with |
| 861s | how much power gear you're wearing you |
| 863s | yeah you suddenly split the classes more |
| 865s | yeah |
| 866s | um and you get more player choice in how |
| 869s | you want to play |
| 871s | um so I think we've got a lot of room in |
| 874s | how we can kind of make all power gear |
| 877s | better make make all gear better yeah |
| 880s | um more more tank Buffs that don't |
| 882s | affect the power side more power Buffs |
| 884s | that don't affect the tank side |
| 886s | um that's very diverse exactly thinking |
| 889s | things just off top my head like we |
| 891s | could do a better version of resonance a |
| 893s | that is far superior if you're wearing |
| 895s | tankier |
| 900s | already scales with Shield class it |
| 902s | would not be you know super far-fetched |
| 905s | to make it scale with your armor rate |
| 907s | exactly the type of gear that you have |
| 908s | on precisely yeah okay well thank you so |
| 911s | much for uh for joining us no probably |
| 913s | we will see you in the next one |