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Back in 2011, it seemed almost certain that Jagex were going to continue the story presented in While Guthix Sleeps and Ritual of the Mahjarrat via a quest which delved into the threat of the Dragonkin (now referred to as the Necrosyrtes faction of Dragonkin).

The rise of the Dragonkin as the follow up to the Lucien story was foreshadowed through various quests, postbags from the hedge, Dragonkin architecture at Daemonheim and references to them in the Dungeoneering lore, the lore surrounding Ancient Effigies, etc. The earliest of which was A Tail of Two Cats, released in 2005.

The most telling evidence that the story was going to shift to the Dragonkin was the story told throughout the Rise of Lucien saga. At the end of While Guthix Sleeps, there was a cutscene where the Dragonkin (in their castle) plotted their freedom and the 'terror and pain' they would bring to the small races. It's not specified whether the Dragonkin were physically trapped within their castle, or whether they were referring to a metaphorical freedom. While Guthix Sleeps also had lore books which hinted at a Dragonkin presence in Morytania, which was further supported by a Postbag from the Hedge. Is that where the Dragonkin Castle is? Could be.

In Ritual of the Mahjarrat, the Dragonkin made a comeback. We saw them burn down Mos Le'Harmless and defeat Lucien. This quest is what really set the scene for what I believe was supposed to be a Dragonkin quest or storyline. Here's why:

  • On Kethsi, we find a Note to Robert and Robert's Necklace; these are to be given to him when he somehow returns from cat form. This is yet to happen. The letter states 'The stonetoucher must also know what to do. The Temple Knights will be at the start of the stonetoucher's trial.'. In 2014, Mod Raven stated that the note would be used in future content, and 'at some point all will be revealed'.

  • At the end of Ritual of the Mahjarrat, the player entered a "vision of what is to come" (Strisath), in which Draynor is destroyed by the Dragonkin and Sir Tiffy is killed. At the end of this 'vision' the Dragonkin say 'It will begin in Edgeville', and then Edgeville is destroyed post-quest. However, nothing really ever 'began'.

  • After Ritual of the Mahjarrat, Kuradal wants vengeance against the Dragonkin for killing Lucien - she believes she should have been the one to kill him. Perhaps in a follow up quest we would have teamed up with Kuradal in order to defeat the Dragonkin.

  • After Ritual of the Mahjarrat, The Raptor comments on the player defeating the Balance Elemental and helping to sort out Lucien. He then comments about the player not going after the Dragonkin. This is important, because the Raptor then plays a key role in Song from the Depths. As the Queen Black Dragon is a Dragonkin creation, would the Raptor also have helped us take down the Kin?

Unfortunately, none of this ever came to be. We did get One of a Kind, which was a great quest - but from that point onward the story shifted to focus on the Dactyl (Scientific Dragonkin, such as Kerapac). There was also various lore fails, in which Dragonkin laboratories throughout Gielinor had the same architecture as the floors beneath Daemonheim. This made no sense, as it was in fact Bilrach who built these structures, and the effects of being close to 'The Rift' which gave the dungeoneering floors their warped appearances.

It would seem that in 2013, Jagex decided that as a marketing tactic they would create the Sixth Age and The World Wakes in order to create a lot of hype. I don't believe this was as successful as they had hoped, similarly to the Signature Heroes idea, but The World Wakes was definitely one of the best quests in the game. Unfortunately, though, after that, the story focussed on the Dactyl, Sliske, Gods and Elder Gods - meaning the Necrosyrtes Dragonkin never got the conclusion they truly deserved or were meant to have. This is even more unlikely now, given that the Stone of Jas was destroyed in Sliske's Endgame.

There may be some hope for the Dragonkin, due to Desperate Times (which was a great quest, and actually changed my opinion of Kerapac). Next year, Jagex plan on releasing a quest every two months, and so far we know of: Desperate Measures -> Quest 2 -> City of Senntisten -> Azzanadra Quest -> Quest 5 -> Quest 6. It's also possible that the Araxxor quest will be one of these quests, as Mod Jack said he has found a way for it to fit into the narrative - but if any quest has to be cut it will be the Azzanadra Quest. I personally think we will be seeing Rite of Passage next year, due to the secrecy around the unannounced quests, and the wealth of assets which have been created for the Armadyl Archeology site.

Here is also a list of unanswered Dragonkin Questions and Plot Points that I made with help of a few other lore players.

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about 5 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by fallior

If they are to be used in the future, that may just mean in a future update. It might not necessarily mean gielinor future. Could be the player going back in time, or something along those lines, as we've done before.

^This.

Yeah sorry to burst any bubble, but my response purely meant from an update point of view. As always I reveal NO information about the story plans other than super vague statements that are ultimately useless... you know, like I always do.

about 5 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by yaksnax

Any thoughts on a dragonkin quest set between rotm and tww as another poster suggested?

You mean another time jump backwards chronologically?

In principle I'd love to flesh out some of our past storylines. There are tales we could tell within those gaps that we would love to tell. However, this would be really confusing for much more of the playerbase (the 6th age is already such a headache and most people perceive quests as happening chronologically with release dates, for good reason).

Also realistically it's just unlikely. We have the current storylines to finish off and focus on (you'll note most of our updates are narratively tied together at the moment) and I imagine a quest of the scale that would be expected from that gap would be a large quest needing more resources than we can spare.

At this point the dragonkin storylines are not over or forgotten, but they may not play out exactly as expected (there's a lot of headcanon interpretation in OPs post for example) and we need to work out when would be the right time to focus on them. So rather than go back to the past (in terms of game updates rather than actual world past) I think we're better off bringing the storyline into the present.

Disclaimer (as these conversations inevitably go this way) I don't actually have any direct control over the schedule, although I can/have/will influence it. Also I cannot time travel, so I cannot undo decisions that were made in the past however much you may dislike them. ;)