7 months ago - /u/JagexAzanna - Direct link

Good Morning Scapers!

With the launch of todays combat beta we wanted to try keep the discussions together so that it is easy for the team to review feedback and hear from the players.

This thread will be one of the first points of contact so please feel free to discuss everything about the combat beta here!

UPDATE: Beta will be live at 14.30 Game time. Apologies for any confusion caused.

You can catch up on the announcement here - https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/necromancy-combat-changes--beta-update

Check out our newspost to see how you can take part - https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/combat-beta-launch--community-hitlist-strike---this-week-in-runescape

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7 months ago - /u/JagexAzanna - Direct link

Good Morning Scapers!

With the launch of todays combat beta we wanted to try keep the discussions together so that it is easy for the team to review feedback and hear from the players.

This thread will be one of the first points of contact so please feel free to discuss everything about the combat beta here!

UPDATE: Beta will be live at 14.30 Game time. Apologies for any confusion caused.

You can catch up on the announcement here - https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/necromancy-combat-changes--beta-update

Check out our newspost to see how you can take part - https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/combat-beta-launch--community-hitlist-strike---this-week-in-runescape

External link →
7 months ago - /u/JagexAzanna - Direct link

Hey Folks, Beta is currently not up as I jumped the gun on the announcement. Should be up at 14.30 Game Time.

7 months ago - /u/JagexAzanna - Direct link

Originally posted by timitjr

you should probably change it on the website then?

"Update Beta will be available at 14.30 GMT (12.30 Game Time) "

Will be updating once I get the website to play along.

7 months ago - /u/JagexAzanna - Direct link

UPDATE: Beta should now be live

On first login, your live save is imported into the Beta. You can re-import your save into the Beta once per hour.

You will need to close any running instances of the Jagex launcher via the taskbar to login.

7 months ago - /u/JagexSponge - Direct link

Originally posted by maboudonfu

Why OG tank armour don't have HP bonus like necro?

it's on the list, don't worry; it's just very labor intensive with less to show for the work additionally we want to make sure the beta is used to it's full potential, arguably something like the HP bonus wouldnt make the most out of the beta time period so it's 'less' important to trial on there.

7 months ago - /u/JagexSponge - Direct link

Originally posted by AjmLink

Due to hit range variance for melee, landing a critical strike feels bad. It sometimes feels like theres 2 independent crit systems because sometimes you crit a 6k and other times it hits 22k.

I noticed this testing dds. Its clunky to lowball crit and high roll non crit creating a weird dynamic where the non crit hits higher than the crit.

Additionally, ezk bleeding 3ks from a 25k initial hit doesnt feel correctly scaled.

We'll be squishing damage ranges in a later build of the beta which will resolve this weirdness. I'm working on it currently. - Sponge.

7 months ago - /u/JagexSponge - Direct link

Originally posted by HighElbowGuillotine

I think I just feel really disappointed in the direction of the combat beta from reading what the proposed changes are (I am aware that we haven't tried it to see things addressed.) It kind of just feels like the beta proposes more damage. I'm not sure damage is the solution as to why combat feels unsatisfying.

It feels extremely clunky. Just to touch on a few of the difficulties within combat:

  1. I have to cancel channeled abilities because it's higher damage.
  2. Animations often don't match the damage hits, so I have to animation cancel as well.
  3. Magic has like 5 different basics to use - none of them are interesting beyond damage scalings.
  4. Why dodefensive autos exist? (same issue as 4taa?)
  5. Why do auto attacks exist? Why am I doing them at all when I have powerful abilities to use. I think necro really got the simplification of this correct.
  6. HItboxes don't match tiles (sunshine/death swiftness).
  7. The tick system has led to mehaving to abuse unintended combat mechanics to sneak in more damage. It leads to higher APM gameplay and is just really unsatisfying to use.

A lot of the time it feels like the response to these gripes is "git gud", and like, I can't be the only one that feels like this. The vast majority of the playerbase hasn't killed zero enrage zammy - and part of that is on them for not being willing to try and fail; the other part is a combat system (excluding necro) that feels completely unintuitive and difficult to learn to the extent that they can't overcome how convoluted it is. If RS3 combat were a card game it would be YU-GI-OH.

I haven't even touched on Meele and it has a whole other series of problems in it self. Other MMOs do not have the same problem of combat being completely inaccessible to the vast majority of the player base - combat is a lot more intuitive and not riddled with the above challenges.

Like others have stated: This is the first iteration.

We're looking to frequent updates to the beta as we develop with players feedback, a lot of the things you've listed we are intending on trialing fixes for, but one step at a time.

7 months ago - /u/JagexAzanna - Direct link

Originally posted by Sin_of_the_Dark

Does account progress carry over from the beta back into the main game? I had my fun, but now I want to do some quests but don't want to have to re-do them. I can't find a way to get back out of the beta

Progress doesn't carry over but if you wanna switch back to playing regular worlds :

  • Jagex Launcher Users:
    • Close the clients you're using.
    • Right-click the Jagex Launcher icon on your taskbar
    • Click "Exit"
    • Wait a few seconds
    • Load the Jagex Launcher from your start menu normally.
  • For Non-Jagex Launcher Users:
    • Close the clients you're using.
    • Reload the client as per normal.