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General Lore/Writing

What can we expect next? Can we see lore updates besides major content updates and quests?

  • We've been trying to incoporate lore into other updates.
  • The next Yak Track will be an example of this.
    • Certain tasks allow you access this lore.
    • Once the Yak Track has concluded, anyone can access it regardless.
    • Lore will be accessed once through conversation/lore books.
    • Some lore will expand upon the Ages, who determines them and details surrounding it.

How far ahead do we plan story plots?

  • In the past it's been unplanned and adaptable but currently we've been more concrete in locking down a story.
  • We have a general plan up to 5 years in advance but they change to match updates or player interests.
    • Anachronia wasn't part of the plan initially but it was updated to align with Kerapac's storyline.

What are your thoughts on all the lore theories that get posted on social media? Do you steal them?

  • Obviously we read them, and we do borrow from them such as with Ripper demons.

    • Initially we just had a demon with claws, but a player stated: "What if it wasn't the demon but the bandages taking over a host?"
  • A lot of the theories players make are closed minded, so they are interesting to read but don't work in the big picture.

    • They aren't open for counter-theories.
    • Some players are close with a lack of information and others are widely off.
    • There are some where they wish it to be true even if it doesn't work out.
  • You shouldn't write a story where everything leads to 1 answer as you'd just right yourself into a corner. It's better to having hanging threads where you can pull from later as needed.

    • This allows writers to put their heart into it otherwise it becomes a chore. The lore council helps mold everything into the right direction while retaining the passion.

Any plans to do ?

  • There are plans but doesn't mean they are scheduled to be released any time soon.
  • We can't talk about when things will come.

Quests for ?

  • We've been recently releasing novice level quests that are more accessible.
  • Haven't made quests that require level 80/90s for awhile. Usually don't go above 90s for Grandmasters.

Elder Gods & Desperate Measures

Why isn't there an aftermath to the Desperate Measure quest? Elder Gods waking up as about as an important event as Guthix's death?

  • Only the quest concluded, the storyline continues.
  • This won't be another Age Break.
  • Most people don't do post quest dialogue so we'd rather put in more time and effort into the quest.
    • Delaying a quest to include isn't an option as it would effect other projects.
    • Dialogue for the quest itself was done about 1.5 weeks before it went live.
  • The cost to do a 2D cutscene is cheaper than a 3D one and the points/emotions come across the same way.

How did Ful get from Karamja to Anachronia?

  • She swam through the lava. There made planets, so they can travel through them really easily.

In the Desperate Measures we found out about shadow anima which is apparently poisonous to the Elder Gods. Could we use it to kill them if necessary?

  • You could, if you wanted to kill all life on Gielinor.
  • His plan wasn't to kill the elder gods, he was killing the elder gods eggs by poisoning their food which were being fed to them.
  • There's no evidence in the quest that it's an effective weapon against them.
  • They see it more as an annoyance.

How did Guthix know about Shadow Anima?

  • The answer is in Desperate Times.

Jas is a clock, Ful is a wyrm, Mah is a humanoid, can you reveal the forms of Wen and Bik?

  • We have pictures but won't reveal them to you

Why are Elder gods called their name?

  • It was supposed to be and probably was based upon Java application servers.
  • The destruction of the Stone of Jas aligned with discontinuation of Java is a coincidence.
    • There's no correlation between NXT being called NXT and Xau Tak.
  • They just need names otherwise it's annoying to refer to them.

Why did the Dragonkin experiment with Black Stone at Ulthven Kreath given what happened to Anachronia?

  • Desperation and fate. Driven by hope.

How did Zarador squeeze into the 2nd floor of that building in burthorpe?

  • I'd love to have the time to waste to model him being squished in a cramped.
  • Other people are represented because there's a lack of room in the room.

Other Lore

Does Zu Zu or John Sturm hold the Horn?

  • John Sturm won't have it because he's dead.
  • Most people in Gielinor probably don't know the Horn is an elder artifact.
  • The mission was to kill Quin because they were terrorizing islands.
    • So, it's probably just sitting there waiting for someone to claim it.

Are there entities that fulfill the same Role as Amascut and Ichtlarin in other worlds/planes or are their roles exclusive to Gielinor?

  • The afterlife can vary wildly from world to world. Some worlds don't have a guide.
  • Icthlarin/Amascut can be seen as middle management gods, where they aren't necessary.

Any plans to expand the Queen of Ashes or the Karamja Gods lore in future quests? Those are the only gods that didn't partake in recent events in the sixth age yet, Xau-Tak and the Elder Gods are moving around, the Desert Pantheon is making a plan to revert the damage Amascut has caused, even Brassica Prime and Marimbo have made a move.

  • Plans, yes. But we aren't going to show them any time soon.
  • We are aware of them and we have our thoughts, they'll have their place when they have it.

What are your thoughts on creating content that directly features the Abyss?

  • The Abyss really isn't a storyline, it's a world setting element.
  • Would like to do something related to Shattered Worlds but it would be a storyline about the characters not the place.

Why was Zarosian imagery allowed to remain on the Slayer Tower? Was it just that Zamorak got banished and the Vampyres didn't care?

  • I don't think we established it. I'd like to think it was finished and they were probably about to get to it than it began sinking into the swamp and they had other priorities.

In Lord of Vampyrium, Polmafi fell through the portal. Is he dead, or is there a chance we and Veliaf can go on one last rescue trip to Vampyrium in some distant future?

  • Strictly he's MIA. Players could go and find out, and if you did find him what happened to him?
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over 3 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by xurdones

In fairness to them, they did say that the lore content won't require Yak Track to access; they said that once Yak Track is over, there will be an NPC you can talk to to get all of the lore you would have gotten from the Track, so it's not like they're gating content behind MTX.

Though that begs the question of why they couldn't just put the NPC in without needing to piggyback on Yak Track, but that may be a resource allocation issue. That is to say, this way the Yak Track team can do it as part of Yak Track, and the Content team doesn't need to take a person away from whatever the Content team does

Though that begs the question of why they couldn't just put the NPC in without needing to piggyback on Yak Track, but that may be a resource allocation issue.

This.

We have limited resources (time and development priorities) for content and even relatively "small" stuff like lore books (which still take time to write of course) eat into those resources.

The dev focused on yak track wanted to bring some fun simple lore into the game and we wanted a place to add small story advancement as well. We're talking conversations here and there and a lore book, not a quest. So what we get here is two fold:

Firstly, we get a more engaging yak track task, in the form of uncovering a bit of game lore.

Secondly we get more lore, full stop. This lore is available to everyone.

If you don't want to engage with yak track, then you just need to wait a bit to be able to access the content without needing to do the track at all. You gain some lore and ultimately lose out on nothing.

over 3 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by J00stie

Lore in Yak Track... Honestly I don't know what to think. People could say 'hey at least it's something extra but to me it just confirms the fact that MTX is merging with and replacing content updates which is very problematic

It isn't though.

These are small lore pieces. Think little side conversations and a couple of lore books. Entirely off the critical path of lore but offering some expansion on the world so far. Showing that things move on in small ways.

This has taken nothing out of the non-mtx release schedule, it is literally just adding extra stuff in AND after yak track it's going to be freely available to everyone, even if you didn't engage with yak track.

It isn't merging or replacing, quite the opposite. Instead we are getting extra lore content into the game.

over 3 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by DeguRS

So we have to pay to get lore now?

No.

This lore is added specifically with the plan that it will become permanent and available to anyone forever. If you don't want to engage with yak track, then you simply need to wait a little bit and then you can access it without concern.

In addition, to be clear, the lore is intended to enhance the story of the game world, but not be a vital piece of it. We're not talking a quest here, we're talking a lore book and some dialogue between characters. It should be interesting and fun, but not "critical path".

over 3 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by [deleted]

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Literally the opposite.

Once the yak track is over, the lore is a permanent addition to the game that can be accessed by anyone (with any area requirements we might need). A new player would be able to find the NPCs with the information and gather the lore themselves immediately unhindered. The only difference is they won't get any of the yak track rewards/bonuses for doing so.

over 3 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Dialogue for the quest itself was done about 1.5 weeks before it went live.

I just want to clarify "was still being worked on". I have been writing the dialogue throughout development. ;)

over 3 years ago - /u/darkhearted_raven - Direct link

Originally posted by Zarosian_Emissary

This stuff won't be accidentally skipped, right? I know you get a speed up for the first 10 tasks if you got far in the last track which auto-completed a few tasks where you had to talk to someone so just want to make sure the lore tasks won't be included in that.

I'm not devving it, but my understanding is that if you haven't seen it you can complete it after the yak track to see it. So I don't believe it can be skipped no.