[2022] Let's look at itemization for warriors and assassins (long rant)

Originally posted by KeenKongFIRE

Well, the people i play with and me myself are all awaiting for the next patch with excitement, curious how big the changes in the meta will be, and some of those changes sounds like fun, while others sounds "meh", but you know how is this, the negative voices always make themselves sound louder by shouting stronger

Originally posted by CraptainPoo

Well put, people don’t like change. One of the reasons I love the game is the constant changes, keeps you adapting and experimenting. Sometimes things can be frustrating but hey that’s all part of it.

Originally posted by uhhmason

Ajax I love all the changes this next patch. There was one Item nerf i felt was missing though. You forgot about rats acorn. It's kinda cheese right now lmao.

Originally posted by BlizzardEternal

Hi Ajax! First just wanna say, thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response. I for one really appreciate the hard work you and the rest of the team put into the game.

9.5 has some huge changes, and its going to create a lot of unpredictable results. We wanted to make sure that Hybrid item spam was not a likely result, as that could lead to a lot of negativity about the update overall.

Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense. I am concerned that solo as a role will become much weaker, or that guardians will start to dominate again, but I'd have to see this in action before I could really make those guesses anyway. As long as the team is keeping an eye on the hybrid items typically underused and is prepared to revert nerfs if necessary (which is typically true), its a good call.

The Horus "Fix" will be reverted The decision was based on a misinterpretation of some wording, and it should not have gone through.

This is big, I know I've heard a lot of uproar about this and no comment from devs before this comment. It may be worth tweeting this or something like that. Transparency here goes a long way to keeping the reddit flames in check.

Not sure what you mean about Susano, perhaps a very old change? But looking at some recent videos and streams of console players on Susano they seem to be feeling ok on the god. If more specific information was provided we could look into it.

I've heard and seen this problem on all platforms actually. Before, you could auto cancel on Susano by holding basic attack, and going through his 1-2 combo. That is,, as long as you're holding down the basic attack button, you will automatically auto cancel between the two parts of his 1 by simply waiting before pressing 1 again. After 9.4 (might have been 9.3?), this no longer occurs-- it just won't auto, and to auto in between the two parts of his 1, you now have to cancel the targeter on the 1 with right click/circle to auto again.

It just makes the auto cancel process more technically challenging. There was no mention of it in the patch notes so its likely it was an unintended change that happened somehow.

If this is not clear enough, I'll see if I can take a video recording inputs to demonstrate.

(https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/ty5qd2/susanos_aa_canceling_on_his_1_stopped_working/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/ugik3g/did_they_nerf_susanos_aa_cancel/ )

Im sorry that these few changes that some people dislike are overshadowing an absolutely awesome and huge update. And im sorry that its created such intense negativity in certain spaces.

There is a lot to be excited about in this update!

It baffles me that with such a huge change coming, people are willing to go to arms about these small things before even playing it. Literally only the devs/pros/influencers who got to playtest this stuff have the slightest idea of their impact. Play the damn PTS, see how warriors feel, and then complain. The only reason anyone should be making these posts is for stuff like the Horus hydra interaction-- a change that came out of nowhere with no explanation, that needs clarification.

I am really hyped for the upcoming patch. I know myself and many of my friends have felt the frustration of snowball, and we are hoping this will be very good for the state of the game. Heck, I know people who have stopped playing lately who are planning on getting back in!

I hope there are more big changes like this in store for the rest of the season. This is a great step but there's still more to be done before the meta is as good as it can be. I personally still find the bandaid that is the global healing debuff to be frustrating, and I hope there are some ideas in the work to more permanently address healing meta issues.

Thanks to the team for your hard work. Looking forward to going head to head with yall in classic conquest :)