Balance on Bari scaling

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So having played a handful of games with Bari I decided to check scaling numbers and I find out her 3 has 130% strength scaling, which seems wildly over the top for a basic ability when if I remember my numbers right Charybdis ult has strength scaling near 130%.

I just don’t understand how Hi Rez releases things like this. I understand the gods releasing over-tuned for hype value but 130% scaling on a basic ability shouldn’t exist as I see it when Ults don’t do as much

No idea what else has wild scaling but this is a fairly easy to see one that’s in my opinion way too high of a scaling ability

130% strength+60% intelligence + 100% basic attack power. Idk what yall are saying it’s 130% of her basic attack as her ability doesn’t say that

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9 days ago - /u/HiRezCAPSLOCK - Direct link

Originally posted by Aewon2085

It’s 130% strength, 60% int, and 100% basic attack scaling

There's a bit of a misunderstanding here - and might need a tooltip update - but it's a bit difficult to explain what it's doing.

Basic attack power, here, refers to the actual stat (such as you would find on Gilded Arrow). Not your basic attack damage - which would be double dipping.

9 days ago - /u/HiRezCAPSLOCK - Direct link

Originally posted by Aewon2085

Double reading I should be saying basic attack scaling not basic attack damage, I do know what basic attack scaling is referring to that being gilded arrow and manakins

Yes, but that stat is the only thing it is scaling off of.

For example, let's say your basic attack hits for 100. With Gilded arrow, you get +15 basic attack power, making a total of 115 basic attack damage.

Bari's 3 does NOT gain 115 damage in this case. It gains 15 from Gilded arrow as that is her basic attack power from items.

The rest of the scaling is also there. It scales with 130% str, 60% int, and the extra basic attack power stat.

That means it's got scaling that is slightly better than your basic attack damage (which deals 100% str + 20% int + 100% Basic attack power) + the relatively low base 150.

9 days ago - /u/PonPonWeiWei - Direct link

Originally posted by Aewon2085

130% strength plus 60% plus any bonuses to basic attack power aka basic attack power or basic attack scaling whatever we want to be calling it

100 strength 0 int the ability is 130 off of strength 0 off int and 0 on basic attack scaling.

I’ve played smite more then enough to understand this which is why I even bring up the fact this ability is outscaling ultimates. Specifically because the current game has infinitely stacking 3K pots, which means it’s totally possible for this basic ability to start rivalling ultimates for damage with a fraction of the cooldown. Then let’s add her passive which is effectively a free strength and a free intelligence item worth of power. Then let’s add the fire giant buff and now your essentially running 10 items now in terms of how much power you’ve gotten via non items

Your Basic Attack is made up of 3 scaling factors.

100% of your Strength.
20% of your Int.
100% of a stat called "Basic Attack Power". This is a stat used to only increase Basic Attack damage.

My goal with this ability is that it does ~a basic attack with some bonus scaling worth of damage. I could (and probably should) alternatively write this ability as

"Deal damage equal to your Basic Attack Damage + 30% Strength Scaling + 40% Int Scaling".

Yes this does mean it scales more than some ultimates, but that is also somewhat true of just Basic Attacks in general.

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