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Title Edit: past a certain level
I don’t want this to just be a pointless frustration or anger post. I want to try and explain why these things are frustrating and propose solutions. I love this game, otherwise I wouldn’t be ranting like this.
I made a response about this on an MMR post and my friend posted some feedback on the discord server, but I’m really hoping this gets seen, and I want to see if other high levels are having the same experience as us.
My friend and I are level 43. We’ve played this game almost every other night since it came out and we love BR mode. We are a duo that plays squads, and we didn’t even care that we were at a disadvantage most games being a duo.
Earlier this week, the chapter pass came out and suddenly we had full lobbies again, and had the most fun we’ve had playing the game in a while. We did not stomp every game btw, as I said, we’re a duo and we we were still running into a fair number of strong players. We are not top level players and are pretty casual.
Then MMR hit.
Last night was the least fun we’ve had playing the game.
Suddenly we can’t tell how full a lobby is and decide if we want to play clash or BR, because they are now hiding bots in the pregame lobby player counter. If the pre lobby said 10 or 11 players, we would just go play clash in the past. Now we have no indication on how many real players we have in the pre lobby. It’ll say 42 every time, and then the game turns out to be littered with bots. Please don’t hide this information from us, it helps us decide which mode to play and we want to know going into the game how many real players there are.
Every game last night was a frustrating guessing game if a player is really a player or a bot. It’s disgusting now how many times you can lose the satisfaction of landing a frost shot or dragon fire now because the bots are harder to distinguish from players.
The bots now have skins and (seemingly?) use runes. I play the game to fight players. I get excited playing against players. I don’t want to play against bots that act or pretend to be players. The bots could be on par with Marcus or Ghosty gameplay wise and I still would not get any satisfaction orbing them, because they are not players. All this does is remove our expectations going into a fight on whether or not they’re real, and leaves us feeling disappointed and bored throughout the entire match.
I should also mention that in some cases the bots can mix into fights now and ruin actual fights between two teams by distracting you. I want to be distracted by real players, not by AI that randomly picks who mess with. We had a few fights where we genuinely couldn’t tell if we wiped another team or bots. So it even took the satisfaction out of beating other players. I exiled a player that typically crushes me every game for the first time ever in a 1v1 and hardly felt any excitement because I thought I was frosting a bot.
The summary: the bots are frustrating in high level lobbies now, we can’t see the player count anymore, and our games are small now at high level. So what’s the solution?
Please, instead of trying to make us believe bots are real people, just remove the bots past level 20.
My suggestion to replace the bots, would be a dynamic circle system could be implemented that scales the storm based on the size of the lobby. If we only have 20 players, drop us into a storm circle scaled for 20 players that shrinks over time as usual. I really think this would lead to exciting games even in smaller numbers, and let us play the game with real people. I think this might have been suggested before, I’m not sure, but I really believe this would be the best solution.
This “hotfix” has killed BR mode for us for the time being. My friend and I will likely be grinding clash because as far as we know, it’s all real players.
Edit: Thank you for the gold! I was honestly just expecting to get down voted into oblivion. Glad to see I’m not completely alone on how I feel about this.
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