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As some of you know, I usualy try to find some pros of a situation but right now...
Gyalis and Orphyl; are good Tems, Gyalis is even one of the best right now, but the numbers...
25% rate, 1x Luma (again!) 20 min SV (I will not even talk about this) and 8%(!) egg move (when Gyalis needs at least 2 of them to bee good).
To sum up - if you want to breed Gyalis - this Saipark would be the best place right now but still, not so good one.
Saipark was supposed to be an endgame place where you can hunt Tems with a higher chance of Lumas encounters and if not, high encounter rate and high SV. I don't see that this week.

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about 4 years ago - /u/ItsTsukki - Direct link

Hello there! We alternate increased luma odds weeks with minimum SV weeks, which is why the luma rate was not increased this week. As always, some weeks will be more attractive to some than others! You can always leave suggestions or ideas to make it more attractive playerbase-wide.

about 4 years ago - /u/ItsTsukki - Direct link

Originally posted by kaochaton

thx, i guess my post hasn t been seen then ; .

Some posts, even if there's no answer, are assimilated in the future in one way or another :)

about 4 years ago - /u/ItsTsukki - Direct link

Originally posted by Lewy354

Thank you for your comment :)
I know, I don't want to complain (that is my first time ;) ) I just want to discuss things and try to find some new ideas (like I did with non-competitive matches with freedom of using all Tems - I hope you will consider it, if you want to talk about it, I am more than happy to discuss:) )

I just thought, that even 1,5x Luma rate would be very encouraging for players, and still 1/6000 chance (1/8000x1,5) wouldn't cause mass number of lumas and breaking the market :)
Maby even 1,5x Lumas for all Tems that are in Saipark (so Taterus, Paharos etc) It would not destroy the in-game market as they had 1/6000 Luma chance.

As I always say, the best place to make your ideas heard is the Feedback/Suggestion forums :) I'm not the one making Saipark choices, and while devs sometimes browse Reddit, it's much cleaner for all of it to be concentrated in that one place. That way maybe some weeks in the future will look more like your ideal weeks :)

about 4 years ago - /u/ItsTsukki - Direct link

Originally posted by Robz_No1

The issue isn't that this is a min SV / egg moves week, it's that the numbers aren't high enough to really be worth the time investment.

As some other people have said it is easier and likely cheaper to just buy 1SV Gyalis and Orphyll (and related Tems for egg moves) from the discord market than to acquire them from Saipark this week.

If the egg move rate was 20% it would probably be good enough for the breeder demographic, though I may advocate even higher than that if the min SV for Gyalis is set at 20 and encounter rate to 25%. That or increasing all sets of values to 40% encounter rate, 25 min SV and 20% egg move chance (those are estimates for numbers, others may have done calculations to back up their ideas better than I have here).

The 27 min SV for Orphyll might be about right for the casual audience to want to try going for an all green stat Tem though so I think that's fine (though min SV's are strange for breeders since they only really want 1 50 SV or 'matching' 50's and higher min SV's can cause loss of fertility if there are SV's at 46+) but I haven't calculated the odds on that so I could be wrong.
As long as it's you are likely to catch a couple of all green stated Tems within one set of Temcards from Saipark, I'd say it's worth it for the casual audience. More so if they have egg moves. That is the bar I personally would set for weeks aimed at them.

Anyway, I appreciate the difficult position the team is in to set rewards good enough to entice people to go for them while not making them too good as to give players who got the rewards a huge advantage over those who didn't or trivalise acquiring things that are meant to be rare AND to juggle different groups of players different desires.

I hope these kinds of posts and comments offering criticism don't come across as entitled or discouraging to the team, but I think most of us understand Crema is an indie team taking on an ambitious project and are willing to stick things out and offer our ideas and suggestions in the mean time. I honestly don't ever expect any ideas I put out there to used (though I wouldn't mind) but I still enjoy the theory crafting and refining of them anyway.

This post in particular was healthy and polite criticism and we're all down for that :) We appreciate all the feedback and do our best to integrate it in the game, so if I were you I wouldn't completely cross out the chance of your ideas being applied. As you said, it's quite difficult to offer a rewarding yet balanced experience, and we are aware luma weeks are far more popular, so we'll continue tweaking until we hit that sweet spot.