about 5 years ago - /u/djfluffkins - Direct link

Happy to provide a bit more context to all of these things. Let me just preface by saying our intent is to continuously update this product and make it more configurable and useable by all streamers (and editors).

  • We're looking into this bug with Activity Feed (what I'm interpreting you mean by event list). This seems like a more recent bug.
  • Unfortunately, we've communicated very candidly that we do not test BTTV or FFZ when developing products, I do not believe that policy will change
  • We will be adding more top stats and adding the ability to add/remove to suit your needs. Our primary solve with stream health today was to be able to indicate when there's a problem. We can absolutely add a bitrate number as an option in addition to bitrate graph.
  • Would love to hear more about what the expected behavior is with resizing. I think generally speaking anchoring within a window creates certain issues, which is why many users prefer popout.
  • We are updating each metric to incorporate a hover that shows exact numbers. APIs are still available to poll a live number. We could explore increasing the size of top stats panels while limiting the number that are there. Or multiple rows. The current design limited the width to be more adaptable to displays that are smaller and provide greater responsiveness to the window itself.
  • ^
  • Perhaps not the most intuitive solution, but hover does show sub points. It only doesn't show sub points on when you don't have an emote to unlock (e.g. affiliates who have all 5 emotes unlocked, partners who have 60 unlocked). We could explore bringing back sub points on hover for everyone and adding sub points as a top stat in addition to sub count.

Alex's comments:

  • We're working on a solution to do this. Our intent all along was to provide more robust add/remove panel behavior. We're currently working with other teams that are developing other types of tools to provide a cohesive experience across Twitch, unfortunately this has delayed our ability to add this functionality. (In the interim we are adding the ability to hide the video player from stream preview which will unmount the player component and reduce the resource load from the browser).
  • There's an extensive discussion to be had about where we want to move with quick actions, long story short, click a button open a modal is not the experience we want in the long run. We will be exploring adding Edit Stream Info as a panel for those who prefer that experience, but also this refers to the comment made above about add/remove panel functionality. (Looking at your content it looks like you primary Dead By Daylight and then play a variety of other games as a secondary, the idea would be you could lock in the majority of the presets you have for Dead by Daylight into one button and then click to update titles)
  • Semi-answered above
  • The usage data we have suggested that most users use 1 or 2 ad break lengths. The idea of not having to do additional toggles was the main reason we did it. We are exploring different interactive components with Quick Actions to make it easier to configure or manage variables within a specific Quick Action.
  • Would font scaling (that we would need to build in) help this?
  • If you would like to discuss bounties, I'm happy to do it over a Discord call

Thanks for all the feedback, we're digging into the activity feed issues.

about 5 years ago - /u/djfluffkins - Direct link

Originally posted by AvalonAngel84

Tbh a hover is not useful. I'm not going to hover over stats while my stream is live. I need to see the number at a glance, not alt-tab, move mouse, look at number, alt-tab back in.

twitch.tv/fgsquared

totally understood. We have a lot of data to suggest that most people don't have this window open when live, many people have the stats tab collapsed, etc.

There are ways we could explore this, the majority of streams I see that engage in goals related to staff typically have it in their streams and therefore in their stream previews as well.

about 5 years ago - /u/djfluffkins - Direct link

Originally posted by tugboet

I wonder if activity feed failure is due to channel points. It seems to hang every time there is a redemption.

The resizing issues I have with it are somewhat covered as well by FGSquared's comment. The elements resize to fit the space but not intuitively and additionally it doesnt seem to support scrolling? If I, for instance, have 6 items (3across, 2 high) and shrink the full browser to half height, it jams every widget into that space versus hitting a minimum size and then scrolling.

My use case for it is (again as FG mentioned) at-a-glance stuff. It is the only place I can see channel point redemptions (when chat gets moving they get lost fast otherwise). The other stuff requires me to dive out of the game to engage with (like ad breaks) but I dont need to have that stuff jammed in the window. So scrolling down to it would be fine (as with the current dashboard).

If, based on your comment, most people pop out the elements they need, would there be a way to have a custom URL that just has those elements we want in a window? Like dahsboard?activity/chat/stats with the same simple snap-to UI.

Regardless, I think the overall look and feel is great. The functionality and usage is just not quite there yet. I really appreciate you taking the time to lay that all out!

We’ll look into that. I think we’ve been having issues reproducing the activity feed failures, so let me give them this info.

We can definitely explore stats in popout :) hadn’t thought of that.

about 5 years ago - /u/djfluffkins - Direct link

Originally posted by tugboet

Just to update, anytime I get a channel point redemption the activity feed freezes and requires a page refresh to load.

Awesome, thanks for the report. I'll get both the activity feed and channel points teams to look into this.

Can you give me slightly more detail? 1. Can you confirm this is new dashboard? (or old dashboard, or both). 2. Can you share the settings for the redemption that you've configured?