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almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Entertain_the_Sheep

Sneak peak into weapon skins on brainstorming board shown:

(does anyone know what the yellow sticky on top next to single green dot says?)

- Mecha (could be rito troll) (1 vote)

- Instrumental / DJ (3 votes)

- WWII / Alternate History (1 vote)

- Souvenir/ GI Joe (1 vote)

- Map Themed Skins

- Balenciaga?? (apocalypse / junkrat )

- prehistoric (1 vote)

- Viking

- Symbiotic/Alien Gun (4 votes)

- Underwater

- Dragon / Gothic (3 vote)

- Cosmic

- Wilderness

- Horror

- Liquid Metal / Cyberpunk (3 vote)

- Angel / Devil

- Popcorn / Food (1 vote) (Rito... what??)

- grafitti/Surreal (1 vote)

- comic book / classic animation (2 vote)

- High Class (1 vote)

- Fast and Furious

- Stuffed Animal / Hamster Powered

Not confirming or denying that any of these are happening (or if you're decoding the scribble text on those stickies correctly :D), but which of those ideas is most exciting to you?

almost 4 years ago - /u/oniram177 - Direct link

Originally posted by Entertain_the_Sheep

yeah my bad i changed it, i initially read "apocalypse" as Balenciaga.

That exact thing though is how some of our successful ideas come about! When someone misinterprets something, its generally one of those "oh thats also something we didnt consider" moments and the new idea from that gets everyone excited :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by xWaffleicious

What are you seeing that looks anything like Balenciaga? I don't see anything that looks anything like that

Not gonna lie but I was also wondering where people were seeing this Balenciaga sticky note. I couldn't see it on the board and I didn't remember it being there.

almost 4 years ago - /u/oniram177 - Direct link

Originally posted by Entertain_the_Sheep

Sneak peak into weapon skins on brainstorming board shown:

(does anyone know what the yellow sticky on top next to single green dot says?)

- Mecha (could be rito troll) (1 vote)

- Instrumental / DJ (3 votes)

- WWII / Alternate History (1 vote)

- Souvenir/ GI Joe (1 vote)

- Map Themed Skins

- Balenciaga?? (apocalypse / junkrat )

- prehistoric (1 vote)

- Viking

- Symbiotic/Alien Gun (4 votes)

- Underwater

- Dragon / Gothic (3 vote)

- Cosmic

- Wilderness

- Horror

- Liquid Metal / Cyberpunk (3 vote)

- Angel / Devil

- Popcorn / Food (1 vote) (Rito... what??)

- grafitti/Surreal (1 vote)

- comic book / classic animation (2 vote)

- High Class (1 vote)

- Fast and Furious

- Stuffed Animal / Hamster Powered

the one at the top next to the green dot reads "Mecha" - a mixture of my poor handwriting and the low quality image :P

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by oniram177

the one at the top next to the green dot reads "Mecha" - a mixture of my poor handwriting and the low quality image :P

He's trolling. Don't listen to him.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Tyger2212

Make star guardian omen

Help! Can't unsee.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Tyger2212

I’ll also accept a cypher skin where he wears Teemos hat and his trip wires are little mushrooms

LOL! That would make his traps even more annoying. D:

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by aecro

Graffiti, I love the Raze Classic and want more like it.

Nice! What do you like best about Raze's Classic? Are there other agent gun skins you like too?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by aecro

I particularly like that it's a bit flashy and looks a little more modern. I'm not much of a fan of those fantasy-themed skins like the Reaver line. For reference, my favorite skins in CSGO are the Asiimov ones.

I also like Omen's Ghost because of the cloth wrapped around handle and silencer, though the texture of the lightning seems a little low res.

Unfortunately, both of those take ages to unlock, so I don't have either of them yet.

Those are my two favorite agent skins too!

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by SoraKuroi

Dude Cosmic is one of my favorite skinlines in LoL and I feel that Cosmic guns would be so f**king sick

Oh nice! What would you want to see in a skin like this?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by caramba2654

Animal themed skins are amazing, and have no limits. You can have a wolf Vandal, a fox Phantom, a ferret Classic, etc. Basically matching characteristics of each weapon with an animal stereotype.

lol this is fun. What would the Odin be? Or the Shorty?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by caramba2654

The shorty could be bull themed. You know how they sharply exhale through their two nostrils? That's kinda similar to the shorty 😛

As for the Odin... Probably a big feline, like a cheetah or clouded leopard. When the Odin shoots, it reminds me of a cat's purr.

Edit: Operator would be an eagle because their eyesight is comparable to the double scope we have on the gun.

^ this guy has ideas.

I was thinking the Odin is like a rhino. Or some really loud animal. I swear it makes my ears ring when I'm spectating someone who's unloading it.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Deranox

Question- can you make gun buddies not clip into weapons when they move ? Idk by either extending the thing they're attached to so they don't hit the weapon at all or by adding actual physics to the weapons and gun buddies i.e when the gun buddy touches the weapon, it hits it and stops there, not clip through it. Animation for that needs some work, but I doubt it'll be too much of a problem. It's 2020 after all.

That is, if you intend to make gun buddies a buyable thing in the future along with skins, you shouldn't make visual compromises like that when you want us to buy because of the visuals in the first place.

This is something we're in the process of fixing! Lots of buddy clipping issues right now. :/

Tell them u/oniram177 :D

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Not the other dude but what would be important is the weapons feeling very fluid. Think the new legendary Cosmic lux skin, it’s like flowing water.

Then once it feels super smooth, add a ton of pew pew and star dust.

That's cool! Would it feel more scifi-y or more fantastical for you?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by caramba2654

Ooh, maybe an elephant then. They are really loud and bulky just like the Odin!

Oh man an elephant! I love elephants! :D

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Fantastical for sure, for more sci-fi stuff I’d want an Astro line which could either look like the Astronautilus theme with space rock colors or Space Invader Heimer with more green

Nice nice. Thanks for sharing :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Andrewthemist13

Angel devil for sure, would be dope

Lots of you seem to like the angel/devil idea. What do you like about it?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by PanduhSenpai

Meteorite themed accent metal and a space like effect similar to avalanche where it moves slightly.

I'm so glad you noticed that Avalanche moves! Not a lot of people notice! :(

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by caramba2654

If I were to give a full rundown, then:

Classic - Ferret, because it's small and doesn't make much impact at all. Sometimes even cute!

Shorty - Bull, to imitate the two nostrils exhaling sharply that we all know of. If you don't like being in front of a bull to know what that exhale feels like, then you also don't want the same thing with a shorty!

Stinger - Bees. Lots of beeeeees. Mostly because the pun with the name.

Phantom - Fox. Swift and silent, but still pretty deadly.

Vandal - Wolf. Loud, powerful, isn't afraid to get in your face to take a bite out of it.

Ares - Cheetah. This one can be the big purring feline one. Also, quite deadly because of its speed (of rounds shot).

Odin - Elephant. Loud and chonky. And just like an elephant, you don't want to see one running in your direction.

Operator - Eagle. Both have greatly enhanced sight, and both are very fast and very lethal. And just like an eagle's cry, everyone can listen to the shot of an OP.

lol I love this! Ok, how about the Frenzy? Or the Melee????

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by PanduhSenpai

I LOVE ICE THEMED THINGS and I noticed immediately absolutely had to pick it up for my phantom! Loving the skins so far btw! The art direction of this game is fantastic imo! Animated skins are awesome, keep up the great work!

Thank you! :') <--- happy tears

I'll tell the artist who worked on Avalanche. He's been beating himself up thinking he never quite got it right (he's really talented, so nothing he does is is every perfect enough for him!).

almost 4 years ago - /u/oniram177 - Direct link

Originally posted by Deranox

Awesome! Can you take a look at my other comment here ? I'd just love to hear an actual developer opinion on that. Please :(

Edit: I'll paste it here.

I like the Prism line purely because of the nuanced blue and purple mix as that's one of my favorites in general for anything, but I have to say that right now, apart from the agent weapon skins which look fantastic, there's not a single skin I'd buy from the shop.

The reason for that is because skins look plastic-y to me. Like toys, not weapons. I don't know if it's the lightning that contributes to that so much, but the art and texture of all skins looks awful. Default weapon looks are fine-ish, although some, like the Vandal do suffer from the same although to a much lesser degree.

Please consider doing some tweaks to have a more cleaned up look and not so much shining angles on the weapons. The agent skins are fine because they look like a skin out of CS. No lightning on every corner, no plastic look. Go with something similar and I can guarantee that you'll have me and a lot of other people buying a lot of skins as time goes by.

P.S the first picture in the blog with the purple/silver weapon shows the exact issue with skins - too much lightning on a lot of corners and it's silver to boot. It makes it looks like a plastic toy. It needs a firm, toned down texture without that excessive bright lightning on every inch.

yep we're definitely taking a look at buddies. We're doing our best to limit clipping as much as possible by making rules that buddies have to abide by - overall dimensions, where they're positioned, etc.

in regard to the guns feeling plastic-like, we're actively working on making this better. we've actually taken a sweep at all of the base guns to get their materials and textures reading a bit better and its actually uncovered a lot of issues with the way we were working and the rules we were following before, so going forward we'll be able to have a bit more dialed in materials that feel more representative of what they should actually be while still fitting within the stylized world

almost 4 years ago - /u/oniram177 - Direct link

Originally posted by Deranox

It's just that the weapon skin art is far different than that of the game. Nowhere else in the game can we see this type of lightning that makes things shine and the art looks different too. Why is there such a difference ? I think if you keep to the way that the skins that we earn from agent contracts are made, you'll have far more consistent skins that more people will like. I adore the look of those skins, but the ones in the shop are inferior to them.

we'll definitely have a range of skins for sure - some will be more elaborate and have materials that vary because of the fantasy that the skinline is trying to sell, and some will be a bit more muted. it comes down to preference and what we've seen for a while now is that what one person thinks is trash, another person loves - so we have to work within the boundaries of the style we have while still appealing to multiple groups. definitely a challenge and one that the team is up to. ultimately we want to make sure above all else that our quality bar is cohesive and we'll strive to make sure we maintain that as we continue to add new content.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by peacepham

Could you make it move a little faster?! Or a wave move faster than other, that could make ppl notice it more.

Thanks for the idea. I'll pass that along to him ;)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Deranox

Show him this then so he stops doing that. Talented people should have a lot of self respect as what they can do is unique in their own way that nobody else can do.

This is so sweet! <3 I sent it to him and it made him smile.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by PanduhSenpai

Aww definitely tell them that it’s appreciated by all of my friends! He’s doing a great job!! 👍🏻

Awww thank you! He was really happy to hear that and can't wait for you all to see his next skins!

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by ItsSami

I think a knife similar to the PROJECT line in lol would look really cool

Nice. What do you like about PROJECT? We love League too so I’m curious.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

A comment on the Avalanche, if I may - I really love the moving ice but the little orange accents ruin it for me. I suppose they blend in with the orange scope but I actually bought Prism Phantom instead of Avalanche Phantom because i wanted just solid colors, and I barely ADS.

He did a really good job for the 1275 price point, just a little turned off by the orange

Oh this is helpful! Do you mean the orange accents on the gun or on the red dot/reticle?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Frenzy is the monkey, the way it handles is pretty jittery and the name somewhat matches.

The melee is 100% just a stick with a slug stuck to it.

Lol what if the melee was a snake? I’m trolling but it would be pretty funny imo.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Frenzy is the monkey, the way it handles is pretty jittery and the name somewhat matches.

The melee is 100% just a stick with a slug stuck to it.

And is it a chimp? That seems like a frenzied small monkey to me.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Little accents on the gun, and also more noticeable big pieces of orange (there’s an orange sort of wire on the magazine of the Avalanche vandal)

Additionally, if the holographic scope could be made a light cyan to match the ice, it would be an insta-buy, in addition to the Prism weapons. Having the orange/yellow on the scope contrasted with blues is a little jank.

Yeah this is something we are feeling too for the reticles. Glad you pointed it out too!

As for the orange on the Avalanche guns, let me ask about that. Might be an intentional art choice that’s a matter of taste for some folks vs. others. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts though because this helps us. :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Ok, chimp Frenzy with monkey ears and googly eyes. I’ve never used a Frenzy after a niche pistol round buy but that’s an instabuy for me.

And melee is best of both of our worlds, tree branch with a snake wrapped around and a snail that slowly goes up and down

Omg this is too troll. I love it.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Not original commenter but these threads are great so I’ll chime in.

I love the holographic stuff. When Valorant VALORANT was first revealed back in October during the 10 year stream, I thought it might take place in an alternate league dimension with a lot of PROJECT presence, because of all the triangles on the UI and under the scopes of the weapons.

For a PROJECT melee, I’m thinking PROJECT Pyke’s knife. Solid hilt, with a flowing hologram for the blade.

Yeah I love discussing crazy ideas! That’s kind of what our brainstorms are, as you can tell from the article. 😅

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

No problem!

Not sure if you’re on the team for a question like this, but might be in the same boat as this orange stuff. The icons for the agent gun buddies have custom “holders”, for example Omen has more of a curved, scythe-like purple attachment to the gun that the little orb buddies hang from. But in game they all have the same default “holder”, the little black dot with the orange line through it

Are the custom holders scrapped, or just delayed?

I have a post about it with images that I can link if you’re not sure what I’m talking about

We scrapped the custom holders per buddy for now. Tagging u/oniram177 who can explain it better, but essentially it was causing a lot of other issues, so we opted to have a basic default one in most cases.

What did you like a lot about the custom holders? Or are you just curious about them?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Some of the buddies don’t really work without their custom holders. I’d love to put Sage’s gunbuddy on Sage’s classic for obvious reasons but the big black and orange dot in the middle makes it look bad imo.

Even just recoloring that default dot would make it look better. Make Pheonix’s gunbuddy attach to the default dot, except the black is replaced with a gold that matches the gold of the buddy. Make Omen’s holder purple with blue accents to match the ethereal mist stuff inside the orb/his arms. Make Sage’s holder the same green as her buddy/classic skin.

Little colors go a long way for people who really like styling out their attachments

Got it! This is super helpful! We have to balance out all the stuff we do (doing X means cutting out Y), but this is something good for us to think about. :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

For sure! I don’t know much about how the work cycle goes in there with different teams and how much time would be required to make small adjustments (and if they even need to be made, I’m sure there’s some person out there who LOVES the orange accents on the Avalanche stuff). Y’all already got me hooked for a while, 200+ hours played since day 1 (most time I’ve ever had to game because quarantine and unemployment checks are more then I was earning anyway lol). Keep doing what you’re doing and I’d be overjoyed if any of my feedback made it in

Aww tyty. You guys are all awesome. You’re what’s keeping us getting through work during this quarantine. Not even joking. I think I’d be losing my mind at home if I wasn’t working on the game and seeing all of you experience it. This is why we all want to makes games!

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

How much do you (I’m assuming you’re on the art team because you’re super active in this thread) and other members of the art team get to play the game? I assume the balance team and playtesters are playing all the time both for work and fun, but what about the artists? Are they 10 ranks above the balance team just like league? (I joke) Or do you just play casually?

I’m a producer for the team, so I’m not an artist. But the team I’m on (skins/cosmetics) is mostly artists.

On our team, we all play a lot in our free time. We all test the game 2x per week at work (have to test new patches), but you’re right that design plays way more than that since it’s their core job to test new gameplay stuff. I probably played like 15 hrs over this past weekend. I guess that’s casual, depending on who you ask. I do ranked only since I always prefer ranked modes to normal modes. I play the game because I genuinely love the game. But it is also a necessity for everyone so we understand (and actually feel) things like competitive integrity.

In terms of skill, it varies for all of us. Nickwu is on our team and he’s a god. But the rest of us range from plat to iron. We all love the game, but not all of us are amazing at it.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Cool, thanks for the insight! I really appreciate all the transparency from you guys, both with League and Valorant VALORANT (is it too late to drop the capital letters thing?)

Lol I don’t know. Pwyff might be sad if we drop the ALL CAPS.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

Cool, thanks for the insight! I really appreciate all the transparency from you guys, both with League and Valorant VALORANT (is it too late to drop the capital letters thing?)

Also glad you like the transparency. We all want to talk to you guys. Some of us are a little shy, so it’s nice to show them threads like these as encouragement to get out there and talk! :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

It was 100% an intentional decision to make the default keybind for toggle map capslock so when I check map then message a friend, IT COMES OUT LIKE THIS, THEN I END UP ASKING “DO YOU WANT TO PLAY VALORANT”. Thus, he remembers VALORANT is in all caps, and repeats the cycle, map or not. Soon I am in games typing with my opponents extreme bannable trash talk friendly banter, and at the end we all mention how great VALORANT is. We love VALORANT just the way it is and we would never want to change VALORANT to lower case letters. Long live our supreme leader Riot Supercakes for delivering us VALORANT.

😂😂😂

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by PanduhSenpai

Hands down best part of Riot rn, the constant communication with your community makes us as players want to play. Honestly very rarely do deva take care of their player bases, riot has for awhile now been super consumer focused and it’s a breath of fresh air in the gaming world.keep up the great work! Can’t wait to see where VALORANT goes!

Aww thank you. You guys being so receptive to talking to us makes us want to communicate more. <3

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by requar

I also really enjoy avalanche- it fits the theme and doesn’t take away from gameplay- it isn’t “loud”.

Thanks! That was a big part of the balance for us -- how do we make it cool without making it distracting?

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by TheManInAquamarine

Hello, I'd like to say it's very hard to see the Avalanche animation in the menu unless you rotate the gun, it almost seems like a bug. Might be worth looking into as I never even noticed the animation on the Avalanche skins and I've looked at a lot of them.

Thanks for the note! We're actually working on trying to make stuff easier to see in the menu. Can't say when it'll be ready, but it's something we do want to make better.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by stormcaller_op

I don’t know if you can actually give real info about future development apart from opinions, so no offense taken from no reply or a “can’t tell you”. Worth a shot to ask.

Is the leaked Hype Beast set going to come out during beta? We also saw the Toy line for the Bucky, Ghost, and Spectre, and the Drips line for the Sheriff, Bulldog, and Operator, which were all usable during the alpha, while the Hype Beast set is just an image. Any of those planned either?

I have creds ready, give me my regal color scheme weapons or give me death!

haha "can't tell you" :-)

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by SoraKuroi

To be honest, on the top of my mind:

-I'd love some discreet star/spatial accents in between the seams of the gun, nothing too drastic but enough to feel like the gun is held together by some strange cosmic power.

The gun would have some gold and iridescent white in terms of colour, the gold acting as a complementary colour to the dark blue of the spatial effects and the iridescent white giving the idea of some alien weapon.

-Pew pew effects akin to a shooting star but with good impact, which could be difficult to implement. Maybe it could be something like a small star exploding inside the gun and pushing the bullet out of the chamber, which would lead to a sharp shooting sound preceded by a big fiery BANG ?

-Constellations/dark matter forming the visor in ADS ?

-Reloading by disintegrating/reforming the magazine/bullets into existence?

Or maybe the magazine could be something where we load stars in instead of changing the magazine ? Not sure if that would not impact the competitive integrity of the gun, though, since we would not change the magazine per se.

-Nebula-like kill particles at the end of a round, keeping the idea of a star exploding or something ? Or a constellation popping up and heck, let's be crazy, let's say that the pattern on the constellation changes based on where enemies died on the map from a top-down view.

I'm only letting my f**ked up imagination go wild here, I know it's real f**king difficult from the point of view of skin creation since you factor in some code in the skin creation process so don't mind me. :)

...That answer was way longer than expected.

daaaamn you thought about this a lot! this was a fun read, so ty for sharing <3

exploding stars? I'm in.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by TheManInAquamarine

Sweet, thanks for the reply I really appreciate, just wanted to let you know so the art guy knows he didnt mess up. The animation is very clean and minimalistic. Love it. You can pass these words on :)

<3