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I usually top frag or at least second frag regardless who I choose and defeats usually are close by either 3-4 points. Even if I win I barely get 15-17 points and get around -20 for every loss. It's so annoying and frustrating especially when we get sh*tty teammates who don't understand or at worst don't listen. As for me I make sure I don't sound toxic at least and try to uplift the team when necessary. I would gladly work on my mistakes but that's it. I sincerely don't see the point of grinding if the MMR is so easy to downgrade

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about 3 years ago - /u/EvrMoar - Direct link

Originally posted by cokjugglercuntsuker

It's just frustrating bc the MMR system doesn't account for individual performance it's not that I don't enjoy the game.

Low ranks actually care more about individual performance. That's how smurfs have a hard time keeping accounts in low ranks.

Every duel you take, every assist, ability use, site take, entry frag, bomb plant, defuse, etc. is all tracked to see how you are effecting the match and if you are enabling your team to win. Did you win a duel against a player that has a higher skill then you? Awesome, you gain MMR for winning that duel and climb up.

This system is heavily weighted in lower ranks, where skill differences are usually much bigger and it's easier to tell when a player is very good. In higher ranks, where aim and reaction speed start to normalize, it becomes less and in immortal+ it's pure win/loss.

That's how people climb out of bronze/silver so fast, is because they are outperforming those ranks by quite a bit and the system throws them upwards. Remember ranked is a ladder, if you beat people above you in the ladder you climb.

about 3 years ago - /u/EvrMoar - Direct link

Originally posted by sdk00111

What a cap. Today went 11 mm’s. 9 win in a single row with sage, every game between 19-37 kills, 5-7 entry frags 4-7 plants, a lot of assist from heal, revives, clutches. Te 37 kills game literally got carried by me, if I died once we lost, had to frag 3-4 close every round, clutched 1v4’s 5 times, and I got 15 elo. Every game I gained between 14-17 elo. Then lost 2 matches -27, -23 elo.

Link your tracker.gg if you are comfortable talking about your games openly, we can talk about why you are getting those point values.

about 3 years ago - /u/EvrMoar - Direct link

Originally posted by Warnet2334

Unlike some people replying to you I believe this. I'll admit I'm not the most aim heavy player in existence but that is why I use KJ/Cypher or Skye/Breach and they enable me to impact the match while not necessarily relying on my aim and I've been in Plat-Diamond since day 1. If the system was weighted as most people want it to be I would be Gold/Silver. Props to you for explaining the system so people can get a better understanding. The only question I do have is are the games balance by MMR not Visual rank im thinking that is why you can get some high gold and low Diamonds in plat games as their MMR is closer to the Plat 2 vs their visual rank.

Thank you for the kind words.

Yes we do match off hidden MMR, not forward facing rank. This is one of the things on my list that I want to improve on. We fixed and changed a lot of the easier targets, which make ranked feel better. Next, we need time to build the fixes for some of the more complex issues(like it feeling bad when you see lots of different ranked players in your match).