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So I was curious about just how long it would take to hit level 50 on the battle pass so I decided to do the math out. It's all documented on this excel sheet. You can use the sheet to calculate whether you'll complete the battle pass.

It includes fields for how many games you play per week and what percentage of missions you complete among other variables. You can make a copy to use it and I'll add any features people suggest within reason to the source.

Here's the summary though:

  • 1,372,000 XP is needed to get to level 50.
  • If you start today with a two month long battle pass, that's 171,500 XP per week.
  • Completing every weekly and daily mission yields ~56,500 XP per week.
  • With that in mind, it takes roughly 28 games of unrated per week in order to just barely get level 50. This assumes the average match is 13-8 and a 50% win/loss. This is also assuming you don't miss a single mission for 2 months straight.
  • That represents 21 hrs of valorant per week.
  • 3 hours per day for 60 days straight no stops no breaks.

Now let's say you take a week to get into Valorant or you happen to not play for 7 days cause you have a life outside of Valorant, 34 unrated games are required per week for 25.5 hrs per week. Two weeks off and its 41 games/week for 31 hrs/week and etc etc.

This amount of commitment just to unlock stuff you already paid for is insane. If you're not going to grind the living sh*t out of Valorant AND starting immediately, then you won't get through the majority of the pass.

TL;DR: If you plan to have a life outside of Valorant, don't buy the battle pass.

Caveat: If the upper tiers of the pass don't follow the same xp/level pattern, it mildly alleviates the problem. It doesn't seem to, and even then it's a huge amount of XP. E: Xp/level confirmed to keep growing at least to lv 27.

Edit: It’s confirmed ~two months here.

Also, I wanna point out that the game is 10/10 IMO and the riot communication has been the best I’ve ever seen from game devs. I made this post partly because of that.

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over 4 years ago - /u/RiotSWAGGERNAU7 - Direct link

Originally posted by veranthe

I really hope there is a cap to the xp needed for each tier at a certain point. If it constantly goes up by 1000 each level that's just insane. Other games have battle passes that are actually possible to complete without investing 500 hours a week to do. People have lives outside the game, why do they expect us to play so much nonstop after we already paid for it?
Same issue goes with League of Legends, the passes are just insane amounts of grind.

Hijacking the top comment for visibility. TLDR: The battlepass will take ~100 hours to complete.

Weekly XP's also scale up in every week to smooth out the experience curves. Just to give you an idea, the first set of weeklies offer 28,350 total XP and the last set of weeklies offer 60,750 total XP. This will help make sure that you're still able to progress through levels at a healthy clip towards the tail end of a battle pass (rather than just stalling out at the later levels).

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by RiotSWAGGERNAU7

Hijacking the top comment for visibility. TLDR: The battlepass will take ~100 hours to complete.

Weekly XP's also scale up in every week to smooth out the experience curves. Just to give you an idea, the first set of weeklies offer 28,350 total XP and the last set of weeklies offer 60,750 total XP. This will help make sure that you're still able to progress through levels at a healthy clip towards the tail end of a battle pass (rather than just stalling out at the later levels).

Hijacking SWAGGERNAU7's comment for visibility. TLDR: Weeklies don't expire until the end of the Act.

Weekly missions will come out each week in a sequential order but will not be reset or rolled over like the dailies. We want players to always have an opportunity for the large chunks of XP for their passes no matter when they join, assuming they can finish the weekly sets.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by Swiperrr

They nerfed the amount of xp you got in beta from challenges per week from 70k to 56k. If anyone has played league they'll know what riot has been really bad about their pass system, more recently they've been constantly reducing the time or rewards for it while keeping the price the same. This game also still has a huge problem with how you unlock characters since there's no way to farm for them inbetween releases.

Edit: According to riot the weekly xp will scale each week resulting in more total xp over the 2 months than what you could get from 2 months of challenges in the closed beta. Additionally they'll not expire till the end of the act.

During the Closed Beta (CB) we didn't have Weekly missions in the game so we allocated more XP to the Dailies to compensate with the unlock flow of the CB pass and Char contracts. We were off on the pacing of the Char contracts in CB and have since retuned them to be much quicker. The total XP that players are getting with the Daily and Weekly missions should be much higher than what was in CB resulting in unlocking content to be faster overall.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by AndThatIsWhyIDrink

We told them in the beta their timescales for level ups were absurd and they just went ahead and did exactly the same thing for the battlepass. Whoever is making these decisions on XP timescales needs to hand that job over to someone else in Riot because their judgement is f**king terrible and they seem intent on making the same mistake over and over.

We heard ya in the Beta, appreciate the vocal voices around the pacing. The Contracts have been tuned to be much quicker relative to their beta pacing. As for handing over our jobs? C'mon! We like our jobs... We'll continue to monitor the overall pacing and feel of these passes and if we're off we'll change it. Keep that feedback coming.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by Gimmedatsuccc

My mans just provided quick mafs for how it’s almost undoable for any average player to complete the battle pass. Why pay for it if I can’t even finish it and get the good stuff? People will still buy just make the right XP requirement changes

We responded to the top post with some clarification to the OP's math mafs.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by LemonyPickle

I appreciate the response, but can you comment on the absurd amount of XP needed to level up the battle pass? Based of the OP's calculations, you would need to be playing this game non stop to max it out AND you do not earn back currency with leveling up the pass. I am loving the game so far and considering buying points and the pass, but this XP problem is concerning.

We responded to the top post with some clarification to the OP's math.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by T_Salesman

This. I've completed my first set 3 times but keeps resetting... u/RiotSWAGGERNAU7

We're aware of the issue and the teams have prioritized fixing this. Once we have a fix we'll be redeploying it to the live build.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by ludwigericsson

Will you be able to reward missed XP/skins and character unlocks retroactively?

Yes, it may take some time but you will get your content.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by AndThatIsWhyIDrink

Not your jobs. The task itself as I said to this guy earlier. It wasn't supposed to imply losing a job over a dumb misjudgement. It could perhaps have been worded better.

This is the same mistake Apex made with its Battlepass pacing and was lightened drastically in later seasons. In season 1 they lightened the load with big bonus weeks of double exp in order to bridge people over the gap.

In essence the thing with these Battle Pass features I enjoy is getting something to work on and progress towards, but not when its outcome is going to never happen. Paying for something you won't get usually only happens on a Battle Pass that has been poorly designed and, right now, without extra ways to earn points, that's where this is at for anyone that actually has to work or has a family.

I hear ya and empathize with your sentiment. The pass should be achievable. It's going to be hard and take investment but ideally the payout should be worth it. If its not, we'll adjust it on our side. Hopefully the clarity in the top post helps alleviate your feelings towards the pass.

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_Milkcow - Direct link

Originally posted by FocuDengel

Thank you guys for being so active on the sub! any chance you guys are gonna change the time for the dailys? in EU theyre available from (what ive seen) 10PM until 10AM, Im asleep / at work at those times, wouldnt it make more sense to move the availability of those to the afternoon / evening?

Huh, just had this reported to me through a different chat. I'll take a look, the dailies should have a 24hr duration, not 12. Something is off there and we'll take a look.