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Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

FR though, I doubt that 80$ for a pack is the best balance of Supply and Demand...

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almost 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by llamaeatgiraffe

I may just not understand the economics of it all but can someone explain to me why it isn’t possible to just balance the pricing to where they may make less off of whales but widen the circle enough to where more buyers make up for it and even it out?

There’s just no way it is reasonable to constantly monetize games to only appeal to <1% of the games population by making your prices so insanely inflated. What about a $10 price tag or something that ropes in waaay more buyers but reduces dependency on whales?

It’s bizarre to me that the most profitable and satisfying monetization scheme for your playerbase is one that excludes a MASSIVE portion of them.

These numbers that such a small percentage of people spend money on F2P games have to be skewed by their insane financial models that most sane people can’t justify participation in.

I wish the battle pass model was the norm in F2P, as long as the grind is reasonable for working people.

Hey there fam! I know it's common thing for people to assume higher prices means only whales will buy the skins...but that's actually not the case! The research we've done on League shows us that players generally prefer to save up money to buy a really good skin, rather than buy a few cheap, lower-quality skins. This is supported by the fact that players basically stopped buying tiers below League's Epic Tier (1350), thus explaining why 750s and 975s are so rarely available now.
That said, we do want accessible pricing -- so we also have the 875 tier skins (about $8.75 before the VP bundling discount) like Rush, Luxe, and Galleria.
For players who really need the lowest cost options, we have the Battle Pass (which, when completed, grants 11 gun skins), the Character Contracts (which are 100% free, never expire, and grant a free sidearm skin on completion), and a few other things in the works :) Remember, this is just Day 1!
Hope this helps :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by Kudo50

HI, I had a question regarding skin, not sure you can answer but we never know, is the reaver collection going to come back?

Unfortunately I can't say :(. But I hope you asking means you loved it!

almost 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by Kudo50

I did :) thank you for the answer anyway! thank you for the good work as well :)

Thank you so much :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by Sirvulcan12

Surely that has diminishing returns eventually?

Maybe I really am in the minority, but I remember saving up the money to buy spirit udyr and I just truly couldn't fathom spending much more than that on a single purchase.

Maybe the miss understanding lies in the value seen per skin.

Looking at the prices it feels the comparison that was drawn by riot was one gun skin roughly equals the value of one champion skin where I feel like a whole set is equal to value as a champion skin.

And those are both 100% valid opinions to have! It just comes down to how you, personally, value the product. A metaphor I've used is comparing it to chocolates. You can go to the grocery store and buy a month's worth of chocolate for like $8. That's an option. You can also go to a chocolatier and buy a really nice piece of chocolate for like $8. That's also an option. For some people, they're like, "WTF. I'm not dropping that much money on a piece of food that I'll enjoy for like 6 seconds." Other people are like, "I don't even want chocolate unless it's super high quality truffles, and that's something I'm willing to pay for." We're leaning more towards the latter. Personally, I'll drop money on high quality chocolate...but I'll never drop more than $10 on a tshirt or something like that. It's all about perspective and what you value, and that's different for everyone. All that said...we always want the gameplay to be 100% free, and we always want players to get at least SOME cool free sh*t :) I hope that makes sense!

almost 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by tony111222

Thanks for responding.

I think what everyone is trying to say is, if the $70 prime collection pack was $15 or $20, way more people would have purchased them. We really do like these skins, but a huge segment of the market is being alienated. Not to mention, the extra costs to upgrade the skins, it soars way past this price.

Those other skins you mentioned, should be in the $2 to $3 range.

The community truly does want to support Valorant, but at these prices, it just doesn't make any sense.

That's fair! More people would buy them. But I would have to disagree with you that those skins are worth $2-3 -- at least compared to other games in the genre. Just my two cents though :)

almost 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by Blastoiize

Seems like most people in this thread are expecting and feels entitled to the month's worth of chocolate. Even tho the game is free and you don't actually have to give them anything.

I can understand, though. It's really hard to see something that you want, only to discover it's not as accessible as you want. I appreciate your mentality on it :)