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[2020] Make Knife Kills Deny Ult Charge


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I’ve seen a lot of people on this subreddit express their frustration with how knifing only rewards you with meme value and psychological damage. Yet, the CSGO style of extra money for knifes doesn’t make a ton of sense in the context of how the rest of the weapons in the game work.

So here’s my suggestion:

Make knife kills DENY ULT CHARGE

This way, you get a tangible but not game-breaking tactical reward for knifing people. Also, it just feels right. The shame of getting embarrassed would shatter an agent’s confidence and keep them from whipping out their oversized rocket or exposing their weirdass carbon-fiber-clad head to the world.

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about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Hmm... While I do love the idea of providing a reward for knife kills (since they're WAY harder to obtain), do you think it's fair to equate rewarding one person with penalizing another? "I feel rewarded by not only humiliating, but debilitating another player" doesn't seem like it would translate for everybody.

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by ItsUnloadedNow

I don't really think knife kills are "humiliating". If they are you're probably taking the game too seriously. When I get knifed I see it as a high level expression of skill by an enemy, especially if the teams are pretty even. And since knife kills are so hard to get it should be rewarded in some way or another, whether it's this orb idea or extra cash.

shame of getting embarrassed

I'm with you there; I was just riffing off the language used by OP. I'm not nearly good enough at the game to allow myself to be humiliated lol.
And I agree that a reward would feel really good. But personally, I'd prefer something that adds to my experience, instead of detracts from theirs...like a unique kill banner or extra combat points or something. That's what I meant by rewards versus penalties.
Just my two cents though :)

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by SpyX370

What about two ult charges instead of 1?

This idea, I like! Reward the player who did it, rather than penalize the player who got killed. And it benefits their team, too :)

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by abszr

How about 3? 2 Doesn't even seem enough to justify the risk of knifing.

INSTA ULT!!

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by zeroingenuity

In a competitive environment as things are now, knives are high risk/no reward. Using a knife is STRICTLY a BM display. Adding a high reward means there's a justification for actually attempting it that is NOT just to BM. If a player can say "that knife kill was some bullshit but I can understand why he did it" then he isn't saying "that kill was bullshit and there was no reason for it."

I really like this line of thinking. You're totally right. With no rewards for knifing, there's no reason to do it unless you're just BMing.
By adding a reward for knifing, I think it actually improves the experience for all players, even the one who gets killed.

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by aeneia

shame of getting embarrassed

I'm with you there; I was just riffing off the language used by OP. I'm not nearly good enough at the game to allow myself to be humiliated lol.
And I agree that a reward would feel really good. But personally, I'd prefer something that adds to my experience, instead of detracts from theirs...like a unique kill banner or extra combat points or something. That's what I meant by rewards versus penalties.
Just my two cents though :)

Another poster recommended giving the killer extra ult points, and that would make me happy too =D

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by abszr

Lol, I guess it would be a bit too OP giving 3. Whatever happens, something needs to be changed to buff the reward of knifing. It's way too unrewarding right now, especially considering how hard knife kills are compared to CS:GO (not that this game is CS:GO, but you probably know what I mean).

Totally know what you mean. Another poster had a good point, too -- that right now, since there's no benefit to knifing someone, it's purely BM. If you get knifed, you're like, "Damn, what a troll." If there's a reward, even the person who's killed can be like, "Yeah that was a little troll, but I can see why they did it." All good points IMO

about 4 years ago - /u/aeneia - Direct link

Originally posted by ThinkingSentry

Inb4 you make Jett refill her ult if she gets a kill\* with it as it's technically knives... Oh, wait.

(edit: added the "ll" in kill because I forgot it like a dumbass)

LOL clever. Love it.

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