[2020] 03: On In-Game Player Behavior And Server Infrastructure

Originally posted by OpinionatedKitty

TLDR; Riot hasn't made any changes to deal with the sexism/toxicity, they're just saying that they're aware of the issue and are planning to do something about it in the future

As well as:

• actively investigating for fixes on performance dips
• fixing a bug where the Spike UI will sometimes overlap with the HUD
• fixing a bug where enemy players will sometimes show up as having the Spike on the minimap, even though they didn’t
• making sure players are being matched well with other local players, so they’re not being routed from L.A. to Chicago

Originally posted by Trickquestionorwhat

(like agents automatically calling out when they see enemies with the spike

That line is in the same post, are you sure it's not intended for us to see which enemy has the spike? I'm confused cause that really seems like it was an intended mechanic, and personally I think having to hide the player with the spike or the spike itself adds more depth to the game. It also allows for more mindgames by intentionally revealing the spike at one site and then immediately rotating after you've tricked them into thinking you're committing to that first site.

Originally posted by Sarg338

enemy players should never show as carrying the spike on the minimap, even if they are carrying it.

Disagree. Hope you reconsider.

edit: or maybe other ways to see the spike carrier while alive, such as if Sova's recon dart reveals the agent carrying the spike, he/his team could see that.

Originally posted by Sarg338

In a game with drones, cameras, and teleporting/dashing characters it was really easy to catch a glimpse of the carrier and get that important info with very little effort.

How about only specific abilities that already show enemy locations, such as Sova's Reocn bolt? Give it to specific abilities rather than agents/vision in general.

Sometimes a player would not know they had the spike (e.g. someone grabs it and throws it onto a teammate while they have the buy menu up) so they wouldn't always position thoughtfully - or simply wanted to peek - and would inadvertently give away the info

That's a player problem. Disagree that you should take that into consideration. I doubt very much any higher-skill player (who you used for a justification in point 3) would not notice they have the spike.

Many of the higher-skill players drop the spike in a neutral spot (robbing the defenders of the carrier killed notification while they try to get picks), so the feature became a bit irrelevant at higher levels of play anyway

Yes, that would be the right play with this kind of mechanic. not sure why that's a reason to take it out. It doesn't make it an irrelevant machanic.

Still disagree. Hope you reconsider, or at least consider giving us more, niche options of spotting spike carrier while alive.

Originally posted by bl1nkz

I really hope you guys don't take this game down the route of "low skilled players make these mistakes, let's make it so they physically cannot make these mistakes.".

You're actually voiding a good strategy that exist around players being able to give a glimpse of the spike, for example it would be common to show that you have the spike, then rotate in hopes that the enemies are moving to the site where the spike was seen. This gives you options to punish greedy pushers on defence who saw the spike and think they can sneak up behind the attackers, or punish players who rotate too soon.

I understand you're trying to make the game different to CSGO and I'm not the community as a whole but I hope you are making changes with the mindset that they are testing the waters and can be reverted.