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This is one of the very few things Heroes Of Newerth did correctly before that game died

Essentially a Leaver Rating is this:

If you leave over a certain percentage of your matches before they finish, whether it’s due to quitting the game or disconnecting or going afk, you are no longer allowed to play ranked game modes and then have to play unranked only until that percentage goes back into the green.

In HoN this put a major emphasis on seeing games through to the end because leaving carried a major punishment that wasn’t just a time out.

Edit:

For reference the threshold for HoN’s leaver percentage is 5%. So if you can play 20/21 of your games to completion, you’re fine.

Thank you to u/DeathInNoDisguise for looking it up.

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about 4 years ago - /u/EvrMoar - Direct link

Originally posted by Yash_swaraj

I think putting players into low priority games for some matches also works. Like Dota, but not as harsh because you will still be playing the normal gamemode. I think most players won't even be angry about it.

Yea that's true, I like the idea that you can work your way out of it for sure. You want to let people learn from their mistakes, there are exceptions obviously. This is more of the social teams space, but being that it effects competitive we want to work together to find solutions!

about 4 years ago - /u/EvrMoar - Direct link

Originally posted by Sq33KER

I know league of legends had a similar program in the past with toxic behaviour, locking you to unranked until you completed a certain amount of games without repeating the behaviour. From memory it was scrapped because people who were already toxic were angry they weren't playing ranked and just became more toxic. I could see a similar thing repeat itself if many match leaves are coming from a place of "my team won't surrender so screw them" rather than any other purpose.

Yea these things are tricky. Luckily I get to work with a social team that specializes in these things! I don't want to overly speak for them, because this is their area. I do want to work with them, especially when it comes to ranked, to find a solution. We will find something, I'm sure if it. If that solution doesn't work out, I'm sure we will go back to the drawing board and try again. We need to get it right for everyone, I want the best ranked experience just as much as everyone here!

about 4 years ago - /u/EvrMoar - Direct link

Originally posted by sweetpotatofanclub

imo leaver rating/afk punishment is far less urgent than treating the smurfing issues, to the point where i feel leavers/afk are a non-issue. 2 reasons for this:

  1. for those who dislike leavers/afks on a more personal level, because they make it harder to rank up: well that doesn't make sense. it's just a probability thing; there's higher probability for an afk on the other team. if anything, in the long run it should make ranking up easier for you. otoh, the opposite argument holds for smurfs.

  2. for those who dislike leavers/afks in principle ("they make the comp game not as intended anymore; it makes comp not fair"): i actually disagree, or at least i think this happens very rarely. there are two main types of afks/leavers: frequent leavers and those who have those rare accidental DCs. the first type, this is going to be reflected in their ranking. so actually, when they leave a comp game, this is ideal, bc they'd have already contributed their weight during the time they're actually connected. so tbh, the frequent leavers actually ruin the game the longer they stay in, because they're contributing much more than expected (ie smurfing; so i think this issue would actually be treated by dealing with smurfing).

the second type (the rare accidental DCs) do mess up comp games, but it seems really harsh to hand out big punishments. in either case, it doesn't really make sense to have some kind of crazy leaver punishment, because both types are still playing fair: in the first case, they're technically (but not intentionally) playing fair; in the second case they're intentionally (but not technically) playing fair.

i understand the smurf issue is probably much harder to deal with..but for these two reasons i still think it makes zero sense to deal with the leaver issue first. i'm hoping most (if not all) of the resources are directed towards smurfs, however difficult that issue might be.

I don't want to give too big of a response because I think I can give you peace of mind easily. I'm new, only been at Riot a few weeks, but I've already had conversations about both afk and smurfing. I don't have anything to share, but these are issues that we will constantly be working on. Hope that helps, I want the best competitive space we can get(and that's also my role on the team :P ).