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Sorry this was buried in the comments, but a Valorant dev (/u/riotaredherring) actually confirmed that Tencent doesn't actually own anything about Valorant/Vanguard:

Question: Ultimately, who owns the product that you're developping. You? Riot? or Tencent? What would happen when who ever own this product decides on some changes.

/u/riotaredherring's anwer: Riot owns everything we make. The distribution of our games is sometimes delegated to partners, like Garena, who also own the publishing piece in those regions.

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I feel like this is a relief, because tons of people (including me) actually though Tencent owned Riot, which meant they also owned Valorant/Vanguard.

But that was wrong, because as the devs confirmed, Riot ultimely own the products.

I though this was interesting bit of information that was buried in comments.

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about 4 years ago - /u/riotaredherring - Direct link

Wanna clarify some things here before it hits front page.

  1. VALORANT :) not Valorant
  2. I'm not a VALORANT dev. I'm an application security engineer at Riot. Whilst I have reviewed VALORANT and Vanguard, I do not work on it full (or even part!) time.
  3. Tencent do have a majority fiscal stake in Riot but we retain full control of what we build and how we build it.
  4. Ultimately, I'm a Rioter and paid by Riot. If you think that Riot is a propaganda arm of any particular government, an employee coming out and saying that it really isn't probably isn't going to convince you. We really aren't, but I'm not sure me just saying so is going to convince people.
about 4 years ago - /u/riotaredherring - Direct link

Originally posted by Same--Advice

So just to make it clear, you're saying Vanguard isn't owned by Riot, but by Tencent. Is my understanding ok?

  1. Tencent do have a majority fiscal stake in Riot but we retain full control of what we build and how we build it.

Indefinitely? Or could Tecent decide at any moment that they are in control, since you know, they own Riot.

I'm not some crazy conspiracy theory, I'm just a dude who wants to know exactly what's running 24-7 on my PC, including who owns it, and who makes the decisions about it. You made it seems like Riot owned the software and was the full decision maker, when in reality it's pretty clear that it's Tencent.

So just to make it clear, you're saying Vanguard isn't owned by Riot, but by Tencent. Is my understanding ok?

Vanguard is owned and developed by Riot.

Indefinitely? Or could Tecent decide at any moment that they are in control, since you know, they own Riot.

I'm really not qualified to answer that kind of question. Like, technically, yes, Tencent could become very authoritative over Riot, in a similar way to how the Queen of England is technically in charge of the UK.

about 4 years ago - /u/riotaredherring - Direct link

Originally posted by Same--Advice

Ok i must have misunderstood your first point (1.VALORANT).

I'm really not qualified to answer that kind of question.

Let's be honest between you and me. Tencent own Riot. They can do whatever they want with it. Don't answer because you could get in trouble, but everyone knows that Tencent can do anything they want with your software. They OWN Riot.

Vanguard is owned and developed by Riot.

And Tencent own Riot, including assets. That's what ownership means. Can you confirm this.

Edit: This is an serious advice here: don't answer any of this, you could be in trouble.

Respectfully, it appears that you're trying to get a sound-bite out of me to confirm your suspicions and run with it (as you did with this thread).

This is way out of my area of expertise so I'm going to avoid replying to this. If you have questions specifically about application security, software engineering or privacy I am happy to answer them, but I'm not going to be able to reply to questions like this.