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| 0s | today today we're going to rank the six |
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| 4s | tanks in battle for Azeroth beta I feel |
| 16s | like the two most noticeable changes to |
| 18s | tanks in BFA are the new gcd and threat |
| 22s | the gcd definitely hurts more on some |
| 25s | characters especially those with charge |
| 27s | instead of a leap for mobility and it |
| 31s | definitely has changed the way I start |
| 33s | my polls threat is a thing now and |
| 35s | doesn't seem to be consistent among all |
| 37s | of the tanks yet on beta |
| 39s | generally speaking well we're not in the |
| 41s | realm of Vanilla's wait for three |
| 43s | Sundays before you DPS people have |
| 45s | definitely been trained for the last few |
| 48s | expansions to go all-out on or before |
| 50s | the pool and it's commonplace to be tab |
| 53s | targeting and chasing down red v bars |
| 55s | throughout trash fights anyway for this |
| 58s | ranking video I played around with all |
| 60s | of the talents then chose a couple to |
| 62s | feature in this video that I felt had |
| 64s | some of the bigger impacts on gameplay |
| 66s | it probably also bears mentioning that |
| 69s | the talent choices I've featured here |
| 71s | are by no means my recommendation or |
| 73s | even my preferred builds I appreciate |
| 76s | that Blizzard is still working on |
| 77s | fine-tuning things and will continue to |
| 79s | do so will after launch so I focused on |
| 81s | skills that seem to offer the most |
| 83s | button-pushing variety the last things |
| 87s | I'll note is that I'm comparing the six |
| 90s | tanks to each other in BFA and not today |
| 93s | Legion iterations I've also not made |
| 95s | this an exhaustive list of every amazing |
| 98s | and not so amazing spell they have |
| 100s | because I just don't have the time in |
| 102s | all honesty what I'm hoping is for this |
| 104s | video to start a discourse in the |
| 106s | comment section below where people can |
| 108s | discuss the finer points of each tank |
| 109s | from their own experiences and research |
| 111s | and chip in with their predictions for |
| 114s | mythic Keystone's and reading my aim for |
| 117s | this video is to provide a springboard |
| 118s | for further discussion on the state of |
| 120s | tanks in battle for Azeroth and |
| 121s | hopefully together we can decide what |
| 124s | we're going to mean right Oh enough of |
| 126s | all that preamble let's get into this |
| 128s | ranking |
| 131s | [Music] |
| 136s | for baseline defensive abilities demon |
| 139s | spikes is a purely defensive ability |
| 142s | that boosts both armor and parry and is |
| 145s | affected by our mastery fiery brand is |
| 148s | an offensive and defensive spell that |
| 150s | feels great to use and last but not |
| 152s | least there's the dramatic metamorphosis |
| 154s | that generates a nice amount of pain as |
| 157s | for talent options most of the good ones |
| 160s | will be covered when we talk about |
| 162s | self-healing but the last tier does have |
| 164s | a few to choose from last result is the |
| 167s | purgatory style get-out-of-jail-free |
| 170s | card |
| 171s | void river rolls in nicely with a non |
| 174s | Spirit Bomb built as the sole barrier in |
| 177s | mythic Plus demon hunters are a bit |
| 180s | ahead of death Knights on the damage |
| 182s | mitigation front again their forties and |
| 184s | their reactive healing so them sitting |
| 187s | at about 50% mitigation isn't that bad |
| 189s | really |
| 191s | for baseline offensive spells it's |
| 194s | really only throw glaive these days |
| 197s | which also ends up being a filler in the |
| 199s | standard rotation as with monk our base |
| 201s | rotation already yields great dps and |
| 204s | with the various serials at our disposal |
| 206s | we're about as offensive as you can get |
| 209s | in terms of talent options we have sigil |
| 213s | of chains was useful here and there but |
| 215s | I attended more toward quickened sigils |
| 217s | for the added DPS along with flame crash |
| 220s | Spirit Bomb pops up again here to being |
| 223s | one of those nicely blended offensive |
| 226s | and defensive spells amid the Plus we |
| 229s | were on top of the charts on both trash |
| 231s | and bossed image as with death Knights |
| 235s | demon hunters are all about the |
| 237s | self-healing they shine in particular |
| 239s | and trash fights when running the Spirit |
| 241s | Bomb talent speaking of talents there's |
| 243s | a few that seemed to synergize well such |
| 245s | as soul rending and gluttony and the |
| 248s | aforementioned Spirit Bomb with fallout |
| 249s | and fracture overall I felt I couldn't |
| 252s | really go wrong with the combinations I |
| 254s | picked and felt pretty comfortable |
| 255s | indeed pairing the strangest of talents |
| 259s | together to see when my demon hunter |
| 261s | would break so to speak he never did in |
| 264s | mythic paths trash fights had demon |
| 266s | hunters sitting pretty with death |
| 267s | Knights in |
| 268s | terms of healing bots encounters had |
| 270s | them slightly behind but slightly ahead |
| 272s | of warrior Andrew what's not to love |
| 275s | about our mobility especially good as a |
| 278s | fact our leap can be used in melee range |
| 280s | as a dps best and Mac rowing it for even |
| 284s | more control makes it another must-have |
| 286s | for my dream |
| 287s | Voltron style Opie tank that one day |
| 290s | Blizzard will let me design for them I |
| 292s | mean really how much fun would it be to |
| 295s | have a tank with the grips of a DK the |
| 297s | mobility of a demon hunter |
| 298s | the CDs of a pally need I go on |
| 302s | for the most part I always had a button |
| 305s | to push when I needed to grab some snap |
| 308s | threat but there were a few occasions |
| 310s | where I had to wait a second for things |
| 312s | to come off CD we're close but not quite |
| 314s | on the reactive level of a druid swipe |
| 317s | spam in terms of utility having sigils |
| 320s | their cover and AoE silenced AoE stun |
| 323s | and when talented an AoE grip we bring |
| 327s | some nice trash mechanics to be sure |
| 329s | consumed magic allows us to remove a |
| 331s | beneficial magic effect and get a bit of |
| 334s | resource back as a result CC comes in |
| 336s | the form of imprison and we also bring |
| 338s | the extra 5% magic damage to the |
| 340s | encounter with chaos brand demon hunter |
| 345s | is most definitely the flavor of the |
| 348s | month on beta and with good reason that |
| 350s | damage is fantastic their healing is |
| 352s | amazing and their mitigation more than |
| 354s | respectable after that their mobility |
| 356s | and responsiveness to pretty much any |
| 359s | unforeseen circumstance and it's little |
| 361s | wonder I had a great time on Dage |
| 363s | there's also something exciting about a |
| 366s | reactive tanking style that's also |
| 368s | reliable things may get hairy suddenly |
| 371s | but I never doubt that my demon hunter |
| 373s | will pull through |
| 376s | [Music] |
| 380s | for baseline defensive abilities should |
| 383s | or the righteous is a nice balance |
| 385s | between offense and defense and can be |
| 387s | used without a target it increases our |
| 390s | armor and is boosted by Avengers shield |
| 393s | judgment also reduces its cooldown |
| 395s | making for some nice synergy we also |
| 397s | have ardent defender divine shield |
| 399s | guardian of ancient kings and our |
| 402s | dependable mastery which reduces |
| 404s | incoming damage and increases block |
| 406s | chance while also boosting attack power |
| 409s | as long as we stand in consecration in |
| 412s | terms of talent options we have holy |
| 414s | shield in the first tier which is great |
| 416s | for handling magic damage Blizzard |
| 419s | hammer also offers some consistent and |
| 421s | reliable mitigation against auto attacks |
| 423s | blinding light in the third tier saved |
| 426s | my bacon on numerous occasions when |
| 429s | extra mobs were pulled beyond my |
| 431s | consecrate listing a spell warding in |
| 434s | tier 4 is a reliable pick when there's |
| 436s | need for magic mitigation and last |
| 439s | defender in the seventh tier one out |
| 441s | over seraphim for me personally with my |
| 443s | low haste gear in mythic Plus paladin's |
| 447s | sat comfortably in the top spot for both |
| 449s | trash and boss damage mitigation for |
| 453s | baseline defensive abilities avenging |
| 456s | wrath is all a girl could ask for in |
| 459s | terms of talent options we have I opted |
| 464s | actually to run with the first tier |
| 466s | blessed hammer a fair bit in my parks |
| 468s | because it's radius was nice for picking |
| 471s | up stray mobs that were just outside |
| 473s | consecrate the threat I quite often |
| 476s | needed an extra button to push and so |
| 478s | fill two crusaders judgment more often |
| 481s | than not in mythic buffs we're |
| 483s | definitely sitting pretty either in or |
| 486s | near the top of tank damage meters which |
| 488s | also helps a fair bit with maintaining |
| 490s | threat throughout a dungeon paladin's |
| 494s | have a pretty solid toolkit for |
| 496s | self-healing between light of the |
| 498s | protector and its talented version hand |
| 501s | of the protector these usually an |
| 502s | instant heal sitting there ready and |
| 504s | waiting and if that isn't the case we |
| 506s | can also go for the righteous protector |
| 509s | talent for other moments there's good |
| 511s | old flash of |
| 512s | and the crowd-pleaser lay on hands in |
| 515s | myth applause Polly's appear to be |
| 517s | middle-of-the-road in healing however |
| 519s | their ability to use all of their heels |
| 522s | on other party members gives them huge |
| 524s | brownie points in my book selfish demon |
| 527s | hunters with divine steed and blessing |
| 531s | of freedom it's hard to keep a good |
| 532s | paladin down of course if you're a race |
| 535s | nut and are after some more pony action |
| 538s | there's the talent cavalier with that |
| 540s | said nothing really compares to demon |
| 542s | hunter mobility with consecration being |
| 546s | on a delightfully short CD it allowed me |
| 549s | to very quickly react to situations |
| 550s | where I needed to move and pick up extra |
| 553s | mobs or to avoid a boss mechanic without |
| 556s | feeling like I was missing out on our |
| 558s | mastery additionally blizzard hammer is |
| 560s | almost as spammable as the Druids swipe |
| 563s | and excellent at grabbing some snap AoE |
| 565s | threat as for utility well I personally |
| 569s | enjoy the Paladin repertoire we may not |
| 572s | have AoE grips but we offer a nice |
| 575s | variety of abilities that aren't as |
| 577s | niche as others blissing a protection is |
| 579s | great in both raid and five main content |
| 582s | blessing of sacrifice equally so if |
| 584s | someone gets stuck in the mud there's |
| 586s | blessing of freedom and if they have |
| 588s | been affected by some mud-born loogie we |
| 591s | can toss out a cleanse toxins and let's |
| 594s | not forget the matrons hammer of Justice |
| 597s | I don't know what it is about paladins |
| 600s | but I always feel like I'm coming home |
| 602s | when I start playing prot maybe it's |
| 604s | because this is my progression rating |
| 606s | spec back in the day but or maybe it's |
| 608s | because they're just good whatever it is |
| 610s | I consistently had solid pug runs on |
| 613s | this guy |
| 622s | when it comes to baseline defensive |
| 623s | abilities meri rend is much more of a |
| 627s | user or loser defensive ability with the |
| 630s | lower haste of early bf8 year but as |
| 633s | with the paladin's shield of the |
| 635s | righteous I appreciate the balance of |
| 637s | offense and defense our mastery provides |
| 640s | a physical absorb each time we heal with |
| 642s | death strike and I felt like DK health |
| 645s | was less spiky as a result that said it |
| 648s | also means fewer of those exciting |
| 650s | massive deer seals anti-magic shell is |
| 653s | like a supercharged Warriors spell |
| 655s | reflection and in my mind far more |
| 658s | useful - despite the longer seedy |
| 659s | dancing rune weapon provides a nice |
| 662s | amount of parry when you need it |
| 664s | the empiric blood and icebound fortitude |
| 667s | to remain two of my favorite defensive |
| 668s | cds for tanks as for defensive talents |
| 672s | we have Val bulwark and tombstone in |
| 675s | tier 3 they're interesting choices on |
| 677s | paper but I wound up using ossuary most |
| 680s | of the time with my little haste gear in |
| 683s | the 4th tier I definitely got the most |
| 686s | bang for my buck out of wool of the |
| 688s | Necropolis / anti magic barrier and rune |
| 690s | tap though the letter was nice for some |
| 693s | of the hard-hitting thrashing bosses |
| 695s | when I was too lazy to kite bloodworms |
| 697s | and tier 6 is a nice alternative to |
| 699s | voracious and resulted in less / healing |
| 703s | overall however I will say that my |
| 706s | all-time favorite ability has been bone |
| 709s | storm which is by far the most fun heal |
| 713s | to use in big trash packs in mythic loss |
| 716s | decays aren't really about mitigating |
| 719s | damage so much as recovering from it so |
| 721s | they usually set around the level of |
| 724s | monk on that scale for baseline |
| 727s | defensive abilities death-grip is great |
| 730s | because it adds an extra 400 percent |
| 732s | threat on top of the van nerfed 350 |
| 735s | percent that tanks are dealing with in |
| 737s | bf a down from 900 percent and Legion |
| 740s | unfortunately it's also on the half |
| 742s | second GCD which well not as bad as it |
| 746s | could be dip catch me out on occasion |
| 748s | personally I feel like tank abilities in |
| 750s | gen |
| 751s | much less those that also have their own |
| 753s | CD shouldn't be held to the same GCD |
| 756s | needs of DPS classes but that's for |
| 758s | another video in terms of talent options |
| 761s | we have nothing much of notes aside from |
| 765s | the DVS granted by bone storm in mythic |
| 768s | loss the death knight dps at around the |
| 770s | middle of the tanking pack on boss |
| 771s | fights and a little lower for trash |
| 773s | which I attribute to the gaps in D&D |
| 776s | casts Deathstroke feels more like the |
| 780s | old druid frenzied region allowing for |
| 784s | some extra skill level when reacting to |
| 787s | recent incoming damage it also works |
| 789s | well with our mastery in that we are |
| 791s | rewarded with bigger absorbs when |
| 793s | everything lines up in mid leap us death |
| 796s | Knights sit comfortably in the top spot |
| 798s | which isn't all that surprising |
| 802s | amazingly we have added mobility which |
| 806s | is the only reason I didn't give them 1 |
| 807s | out of 5 deaths advanced is a baseline |
| 811s | ability granting 30% movement speed for |
| 814s | 8 seconds and if that isn't enough |
| 816s | the Wraith hawk talent since it sits in |
| 819s | tier 5 it should your not require a slow |
| 822s | on D&D or more GG's I was felt there was |
| 827s | a button of some offensive nature to |
| 830s | press when I needed to grab snap agro |
| 832s | but didn't decay was often not ready at |
| 835s | the start of trash packs with the speed |
| 837s | at which we were moving where paladin's |
| 839s | have trouble not overlapping |
| 841s | consecration I often looked down at my |
| 844s | feet wondering where my corrupting |
| 845s | influence had disappeared doing in terms |
| 848s | of utility we provide a bit of AoE slows |
| 851s | which is just as well considering how |
| 853s | not great we are at running and a single |
| 856s | target 5 second stun that's awesome for |
| 859s | uninterruptible trash there's the niche |
| 862s | control undead and my personal favorite |
| 865s | for abilities my totally opie Voltron |
| 868s | style tank must-have golfing's grasp |
| 871s | finally the good old everyone has one |
| 874s | but that's ok beer is |
| 876s | I still enjoy death nights even though |
| 878s | they're still lacking in the mobility |
| 880s | department I was sad though to see |
| 882s | wraiths walk become a talent because of |
| 885s | how epic I looked doing the moonwalk |
| 888s | this advanced hardly compares with its |
| 890s | pretty little purple fart still I'd be |
| 893s | interested to see how much of a shift |
| 894s | they'll be able toward demon-hunter for |
| 896s | hire |
| 897s | mythic plus keys given how much more |
| 899s | damage they do compared to decays threat |
| 902s | isn't vanilla levels but it's definitely |
| 904s | a thing groups need to factor in these |
| 906s | days |
| 914s | in terms of baselined offensiveness |
| 917s | ignore pain and shield block are our |
| 920s | go-to abilities for magic and blockable |
| 922s | attacks respectively in the BFA block |
| 924s | model our mastery determines how much we |
| 927s | block instead of it being a flat |
| 929s | percentage I found demoralizing shout |
| 931s | great for trash and use it happily on CD |
| 934s | spell reflection is useful when timed |
| 937s | well but within only reflecting one |
| 939s | spell in a five-second window it does |
| 941s | require a certain element of skill and |
| 943s | knowledge of the spells mobs or bosses |
| 945s | are likely to cast lust down and shield |
| 948s | wall our old faithfuls and berserker |
| 951s | rage came in handy for Fears and stuns |
| 953s | as always I also want to natter a bit |
| 956s | about ignore pain it's nice to have the |
| 961s | only other resource dependent magic |
| 964s | mitigation ability outside of death |
| 965s | Knights district but with it being on |
| 968s | the 1 point 5 second GCD and with help |
| 971s | quickly it falls off |
| 973s | I found threat to be the biggest issue |
| 975s | on warrior simply because there were |
| 977s | times when I needed to use or reuse IP |
| 980s | at the cost of an offensive threat |
| 983s | generating ability sure it can make us |
| 986s | some exciting tab targeting gameplay but |
| 988s | after a while I just wanted to give up |
| 991s | chasing threat entirely because I felt |
| 993s | as if I was sacrificing my own |
| 994s | survivability for it anyway rant over |
| 997s | when it comes to the talents we have |
| 1000s | punished in the first tier that provides |
| 1002s | a nice bit of damage reduction on single |
| 1004s | target fights or small trash packs |
| 1006s | dragon roar in the second tier was |
| 1009s | really only useful and trash that I |
| 1011s | could slow and cut bolster in the 3rd |
| 1014s | tier is great if you can use last stand |
| 1016s | well and booming voice in tier 6 worked |
| 1019s | really well with how often I use demo |
| 1021s | shout and therefore also synergized |
| 1024s | really nicely with anger management in |
| 1026s | tier 7 in mythic + warriors mitigated |
| 1030s | about as much damage as paladin's and |
| 1032s | sat comfortably at the top of the |
| 1034s | rankings for baseline offensiveness |
| 1036s | avatar is nice to use on CD the only |
| 1039s | time I really tried to save it was when |
| 1042s | shield block and shield slim were about |
| 1044s | to line up right after |
| 1045s | as for talents unstoppable force in the |
| 1048s | second tier was interesting to use for |
| 1050s | the duration of avatar the rotation was |
| 1053s | then effectively reduced to Thunder Club |
| 1055s | and shield slam or a defensive which |
| 1058s | wasn't terribly exciting but it got the |
| 1060s | job done I suppose in mythic class |
| 1063s | warrior DPS seems to sit around the |
| 1066s | middle of the pack for both trash and |
| 1067s | boss fights the only time self-healing |
| 1072s | felt good on the warrior was when I was |
| 1074s | so low in content and could guarantee |
| 1076s | killing blows in order to profit tree |
| 1078s | rush impending victory isn't terrible |
| 1081s | per se but it's on a long enough CD to |
| 1084s | be less useful than I'd like in mythic |
| 1087s | plus it's all about the ignore painful |
| 1089s | warriors so even though it's technically |
| 1091s | not self-healing it's worth mentioning |
| 1093s | that they sit comfortably in the middle |
| 1094s | of the healing meters for tanks as much |
| 1098s | as I love intervene for some strange |
| 1101s | reason I kept getting caught with my gcd |
| 1103s | down even though it's only on the half |
| 1105s | second GCD there's something about tank |
| 1108s | mobility and mitigation being lumped |
| 1110s | into GCD rules that I I can't quite wrap |
| 1113s | my head around with that said it's |
| 1116s | definitely handy to use on allies if you |
| 1118s | need to reset taunt in a pinch I found |
| 1122s | talent choice is pretty restricted when |
| 1124s | trying to optimize warrior reactiveness |
| 1126s | dragons rule will be nice and organized |
| 1129s | groups but in parks you don't often have |
| 1131s | the luxury of being able to save shorter |
| 1133s | CDs and Devastator is just frustrating |
| 1137s | when you need to grab snap aggro and one |
| 1139s | particularly bad Punk I actually sat |
| 1142s | there for two or three seconds I think |
| 1144s | it was with literally nothing to press |
| 1146s | when I desperately needed to grab thread |
| 1149s | on something with that said the bf a |
| 1151s | rage generation model has a scanning |
| 1153s | rage from incoming and outgoing white |
| 1156s | damage only so with better gear and |
| 1158s | groups |
| 1159s | Devastator looks good in terms of |
| 1163s | utility or is don't bring a whole lot to |
| 1166s | the party outside of battle shout |
| 1167s | shockwave and rallying cry intimidating |
| 1170s | shout is dangerous to use if fleeing |
| 1172s | mobs aren't routed still I do love me a |
| 1175s | nicely timed shockwave |
| 1178s | where other tanks seem to strike more of |
| 1180s | a nice blend of Defense and offense |
| 1183s | warrior seems far more binary I'm either |
| 1187s | going all-out with damaging abilities |
| 1189s | chasing threat at the cost of my healers |
| 1191s | sanity or I'm freaking out the DPS by |
| 1194s | letting things whale on them while I sit |
| 1196s | pretty looking after my own health our |
| 1206s | baseline defensive abilities include |
| 1208s | stagger which to this day I've never |
| 1211s | been a total fan of in dungeons with the |
| 1215s | healer it's fine and definitely makes us |
| 1217s | less spiky but solo without any sort of |
| 1220s | decent gear I really struggled to |
| 1223s | essentially out DPS stagger by killing |
| 1226s | mobs before they killed me monk DPS does |
| 1229s | seem to improve at later |
| 1230s | I levels but a big part of that seems to |
| 1232s | be rushing Jade wind which feels |
| 1234s | overpowered to be truthful there might |
| 1237s | very well be nerfed leaving us with an |
| 1238s | entirely ho-hum tank the other telling |
| 1242s | factor about my low-level struggles with |
| 1244s | monk is that staggers scales with |
| 1247s | agility making the core mechanic of monk |
| 1250s | tanking very very gear dependent anyway |
| 1254s | one thing I did enjoy about monk is how |
| 1256s | their defensive and offensive abilities |
| 1257s | meld seamlessly into one another on the |
| 1261s | spectrum of blending tanks survivability |
| 1263s | and the DPS they contribute to a group |
| 1266s | and one in I feel we have the warrior |
| 1268s | working with an either/or arrangement |
| 1271s | and on the other end is the shining |
| 1273s | example that is monk our brews are |
| 1277s | affected by both kick smash and Tiger |
| 1279s | palm the former being boosted by Breath |
| 1281s | of Fire and all of that is before |
| 1284s | talents effected in iron skin brew has a |
| 1287s | great uptime and I can feel the |
| 1288s | difference when it's not up verifying |
| 1291s | brew when AoE tanking tough trash packs |
| 1293s | didn't blow my mind the times I used it |
| 1297s | at heavy stagger only to have it hit |
| 1299s | heavy stagger again one global later I'm |
| 1303s | sure that my problems with brews to a |
| 1305s | large extent player |
| 1307s | era and crappy gear but I really do miss |
| 1310s | the days of purifying brew living up to |
| 1312s | its name instead of the half-hearted |
| 1314s | distillation vibe I'm getting from it |
| 1316s | now for divine brew is nice in theory |
| 1319s | but the seven-minute CD is a joke |
| 1322s | Zen meditation reminds me a lot of the |
| 1325s | Paladin talent Aegis of light let's say |
| 1328s | I'd like to use it but it's free niche |
| 1331s | our mastery gives us dodge when taking |
| 1334s | mill a damage or using blackout strike |
| 1336s | as well as attack power in terms of |
| 1340s | defensive talent options we have light |
| 1342s | brewing in tier 3 which is on the same |
| 1345s | row as blackhawks brew worked well at |
| 1348s | lower gear levels when I prefer to have |
| 1351s | one less button to push target I'll |
| 1354s | sweep in the fourth tier is fantastic |
| 1357s | for both groups and solo a Content |
| 1358s | someone black ox statue is useful for |
| 1360s | grabbing AoE thread and it's a quasi a a |
| 1364s | weak grip but in the end I just felt my |
| 1368s | Global's were better used elsewhere in |
| 1371s | the fifth year bobbin weave gave a nice |
| 1374s | boost to effectiveness of purifying brew |
| 1376s | but in solo content healing elixir |
| 1379s | reigned supreme finally in the last year |
| 1383s | you'll undoubtedly notice that god is |
| 1386s | back but sadly it's not that great and I |
| 1388s | went up using high tolerance or black a |
| 1390s | combo more often in mythic Plus monk |
| 1393s | defense was bottom of the pack for both |
| 1395s | trash and boss fights |
| 1399s | now baseline offensive ability is pretty |
| 1403s | much just torch there aren't many |
| 1405s | exciting DPS CDs to speak of really |
| 1409s | however the base rotation of monks |
| 1411s | yields some respectable numbers as it is |
| 1414s | which is why I've scored it slightly |
| 1416s | higher as for talents we have and |
| 1420s | probably be considered the overpowered |
| 1422s | rushing Jade wind in tier 6 don't let |
| 1425s | the numbers on the tooltip fool you |
| 1427s | because this is an in-game screenshot of |
| 1429s | my freshen greens level 110 or 120 on |
| 1434s | beta I do W is stupidly good in my |
| 1437s | experience and I |
| 1439s | really had to force myself to try the |
| 1441s | other talents on the tear running with |
| 1443s | special delivery resulted in my losing a |
| 1445s | grow much more often |
| 1447s | even with ox statue from the fourth tier |
| 1450s | any hits from a trigger-happy dps meant |
| 1453s | the mobs went running without said it's |
| 1455s | quite possible that rjw will be nerfed |
| 1457s | which will make it less of a go-to AoE |
| 1461s | threat on the portability but here's |
| 1463s | hoping it stays as is in mythic + monks |
| 1467s | seem to perform better on boss |
| 1468s | encounters than trash packs when |
| 1471s | compared to the other tanks for trash |
| 1472s | they set pretty much around the middle |
| 1474s | but for bosses they equal demon hunters |
| 1476s | and DPS monks are really not in the game |
| 1481s | when it comes to self-healing while |
| 1483s | questing I found it faster to sit down |
| 1486s | and eat between pools rather than use |
| 1489s | vivify expel harm and any stray gift of |
| 1492s | the ox orbs am I playing around |
| 1494s | the only time eating was slower was if I |
| 1497s | managed the rare celestial fortune proc |
| 1500s | which was an abysmal e rare occurrence |
| 1503s | indeed in mythic Plus with an entire |
| 1507s | talent tier dedicated to healing you'd |
| 1509s | think monks would be better at it |
| 1511s | alas they sit solidly last on the |
| 1514s | healing med emitters in both trash and |
| 1516s | boss fights mobility isn't a real issue |
| 1520s | for monk but I do prefer abilities that |
| 1523s | have a fixed destination be they a |
| 1525s | charge or a lead so I don't have to |
| 1528s | waste valuable brain cells deciding if a |
| 1530s | role right there will send me over the |
| 1533s | edge of a platform or enter another |
| 1534s | Trash Pack |
| 1535s | I need them brain juices for juggling |
| 1538s | must stagger with the talent rushing |
| 1542s | Jade wind the baseline ability leg sweep |
| 1545s | and the good old halitosis |
| 1547s | I mean Breath of Fire even running |
| 1549s | blackout combo left me with something |
| 1552s | always available to push in a pinchy |
| 1554s | situation in terms of utility the |
| 1557s | aforementioned baseline ability leg |
| 1559s | sweep is great and I used it freely CC |
| 1562s | comes in the form of paralysis and |
| 1564s | should my worth his weight in gold |
| 1566s | healer need a health kick I've got detox |
| 1570s | at the ready |
| 1571s | monks also bring 5% physical damage to |
| 1574s | the encounter which is nice I'll be the |
| 1578s | first to admit that I'm probably being |
| 1580s | unjustly harsh on monks because they're |
| 1584s | the one tank I never really gelled with |
| 1586s | I'm not sure why because one of my |
| 1588s | favorite arcade games growing up Virtua |
| 1591s | Fighter had a drunken fist fighter that |
| 1593s | I loved to play but for some reason I |
| 1596s | just I'd I'm sorry monk sorry |
| 1600s | [Music] |
| 1608s | in terms of baseline defensive spells I |
| 1611s | infer is the go-to ability for any |
| 1614s | damaged armored communicate for magic |
| 1616s | damage and scary things like massive |
| 1619s | trash packs bark skin performs well and |
| 1621s | of course we have the good old survival |
| 1624s | instincts for those bigger hits when it |
| 1626s | comes to defensive talents we have |
| 1628s | brambles in the first year which offers |
| 1631s | an interesting balance of Defense and |
| 1633s | offense passive capabilities incarnation |
| 1637s | Guardian of a sock in the fifth tier is |
| 1639s | on a three minute CD but that does allow |
| 1642s | us to taunt much more frequently and |
| 1644s | making it nice for bigger trash pulls |
| 1646s | the sixth tier is all about defensive |
| 1649s | choices as our pulverize and rend and |
| 1652s | tear in tier 7 in mythic busts I had a |
| 1656s | bit of a hard time finding bears in |
| 1658s | higher keys so my sample size was really |
| 1661s | quite small and may not reflect the |
| 1664s | actual state of Guardian mitigation |
| 1665s | however it's all I had to work with and |
| 1668s | it does seem to coincide with my own |
| 1670s | testing at lower difficulties so I'll |
| 1672s | just wait for folks in the comments to |
| 1674s | chime in with more accurate data for |
| 1678s | baseline offensiveness yeah as for |
| 1683s | talents there isn't a lot to speak of |
| 1685s | apart from the good old incon for a time |
| 1689s | brambles in Tier one was crazy good but |
| 1692s | it's since been nerfed and bristling fur |
| 1694s | on that tier is too good to pass up on |
| 1696s | at the moment in mythic plus I had the |
| 1699s | same small sample size from which to |
| 1701s | draw but it did seem to reflect my own |
| 1703s | logs at lower difficulties frenzied |
| 1707s | regeneration offers a fixed amount of |
| 1709s | healing over three seconds my biggest |
| 1712s | beef with it is that it's currently on |
| 1714s | the 1 point 5 second GCD which is |
| 1716s | dangerous for a reactive defensive |
| 1719s | ability and since it's not instant and |
| 1721s | takes a second for the first 6% tick of |
| 1724s | healing to actually do anything it's now |
| 1727s | impossible to use it efficiently anyway |
| 1730s | our mastery ups our health pool and |
| 1732s | healing received while also boosting |
| 1734s | attack power it's also worth mentioning |
| 1736s | that we have the talents lunabeam |
| 1739s | and restoration affinity neither of |
| 1742s | which I found particularly exciting to |
| 1744s | use amid the class druids seem to be |
| 1748s | middle-of-the-pack for healing without |
| 1751s | talents drew mobility is really just - |
| 1754s | and cat or travel form as for talents |
| 1757s | there's Tiger - in tier 2 which makes |
| 1760s | dashes - minute CD a more manageable 45 |
| 1763s | second one kind of like a supercharged |
| 1766s | wreath walk really druids always have |
| 1771s | something to push for that snap aggro |
| 1773s | swept for days when it comes down to |
| 1775s | utility druids have an interesting |
| 1778s | toolkit but its effectiveness is reduced |
| 1780s | by us having to pop out of bear form for |
| 1782s | most of them abilities like |
| 1784s | incapacitating roar a great for AoE |
| 1787s | interrupts but as a stun it's broken |
| 1790s | immediately by damage so it loses out in |
| 1792s | dungeon and raid content stampeding roar |
| 1795s | is great for particular rare ed |
| 1797s | encounters that call for mass movement |
| 1799s | but that's not such a common requirement |
| 1802s | in five man's rebirth is of course |
| 1804s | valuable but there are so many DPS |
| 1807s | classes that have it bears continue to |
| 1810s | be a great gateway tank for anyone |
| 1812s | wanting to learn how to be a meat shield |
| 1814s | the defensive CDs are easy to use and |
| 1816s | picking up snap agro is never a problem |
| 1819s | with swipe let me end by saying that |
| 1821s | while I've ranked them lower than the |
| 1823s | other tanks that isn't to say that they |
| 1825s | can't get the job done if all you're |
| 1827s | doing is mid-range mythic Plus with some |
| 1830s | normal and heroic raiding druid will |
| 1832s | definitely get the job done I just think |
| 1834s | that when you factor in everything else |
| 1836s | I've found that the other tangs do that |
| 1839s | and more right so as an addendum to all |
| 1846s | of that information I want to provide a |
| 1847s | bit of context for this ranking first |
| 1849s | and foremost I'm a tank almost |
| 1852s | exclusively pugs content which means |
| 1854s | whatever class I play I it needs to be |
| 1857s | able to switch gears at a moment's |
| 1858s | notice going from this is an OK pool - O |
| 1862s | God O God we're gonna die why did you |
| 1864s | barge right there is a regular |
| 1867s | occurrence |
| 1867s | so tanks would list downtime on there |
| 1870s | defensive abilities and more |
| 1871s | self-preservation rank higher on my list |
| 1875s | I should also note that I haven't always |
| 1877s | been a pug tank I started taking during |
| 1879s | vanilla and was a progression Raider in |
| 1881s | Wrath for a guild that was well topped |
| 1883s | in for a time but gave all of that up |
| 1886s | for a more casual reading schedule |
| 1888s | I've also alternated meaning tanks |
| 1890s | healers and DPS in scatter because I |
| 1892s | find that playing other specs helps me |
| 1894s | be a better tank unfortunately I had |
| 1897s | very little opportunity to test out |
| 1899s | healers and DPS on beta so I can't |
| 1902s | really speak to how the six tanks are to |
| 1904s | heal finally while I've been on the beta |
| 1909s | for some time it took quite a while to |
| 1912s | get all the tanks to 120 leaving me |
| 1915s | little time to actually put this video |
| 1916s | together hopefully you still found it |
| 1919s | interesting and will continue the |
| 1921s | discourse in the comments section below |
| 1922s | where my wish is for people to share |
| 1925s | their thoughts and experiences with the |
| 1926s | tanks in bf a take what I've said with a |
| 1929s | grain of salt realize that it's just the |
| 1931s | opinion of one woman don't hold it |
| 1933s | against me if I've made mistakes and |
| 1935s | hopefully you will kindly offer |
| 1937s | Corrections where you deem appropriate |
| 1939s | in terms of this representation of |
| 1942s | abilities also if there's any |
| 1944s | information about druids and mythic past |
| 1946s | if you happen to have any logs please |
| 1948s | let me know in the comments section |
| 1950s | below because I feel like I need more |
| 1952s | information about druids before I make |
| 1955s | any decisions but it's for the company |
| 1958s | enjoy the rest of your morning day |
| 1961s | afternoon evening whatever the case may |
| 1964s | be and I'll hopefully catch you in the |
| 1966s | next video doohickey thingy |