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NSFW because it features a bad word:

Let's start this off with a bit of backstory. I'm a man. A young adult. I'm deeply in love with another man, who feels the same for me. You'd be right to say that I'm pretty gay. Love the inclusion of some LGBT elements in Warframe and REALLY hoping they fix their kickbot from over-zealously banning anything "offensive" with the kind of tolerance similar to club penguin. Shockingly, DE, the term "gay" actually does come up in non-pejorative contexts.

Anyways - I laugh at memes. I've been on this subreddit for years, occasionally posting or commenting. I've been a long term player of the game, but most of the time I don't type much ingame chat (except a "gg" at the end or talking in spy missions).

Well today I made a joke using the word "gay" in a reference to "the big gay" meme. (Not sure how big that meme is, but in my circle of friends it's referencing catching "the big gay", a parody of the belief that it's an illness). And it wasn't kickbot that booted me for using the word (not that kickbot cares if you're using the word legitimately), it was [DE]Glen in a match of Elite Sanctuary Onslaught.

https://i.imgur.com/9o3KlCl.jpg

So here I am laughing at this dumb joke when I look over at the teammates we had. One of them was [DE]Glen. Oh my god. I laughed off the possibility of a ban, but it was too soon to laugh. Then my friend in the game mentions to me that I was kicked. What? I was clearly in the game, I could see chat. But apparently not, they couldn't see my messages. Indeed, I was banned. So I sent messages explaining myself to [DE]Glen (which apparently still works) and he sent one condescending reply:

https://imgur.com/a/R0HeBf0

Welp, that's the whole thing. Now I'm banned for a bit. It cut me off before my rewards were sent back to the server, so he killed 10 zones of rewards just for me. He wasn't even playing the game, he was a complete leech.

https://i.imgur.com/vjRETul.jpg?1

Thanks, Glen. I didn't realize that the "mature" rating meant that I had to act mature and proper. Homosexuality isn't a joke, but I'm going to joke about it because it's way more fun if you don't take things too seriously. Saying that homosexuality is off-limits to joke about (even if you're homosexual/LGBT) is segregating it when we should be normalizing homosexuality itself. "the big gay" isn't serious, it's a dumb meme.

Oh well. See y'all in like a week. Please don't ban me here for saying "gay", /r/Warframe

Edit: Well this has received a lot of support (and some comments who believe he's just laying down the rules on potentially offensive phrases, I respect the counterpoint). I've sent in a report not to get my account appealed but to get this investigated. DE has historically shown that they're very defensive of staff in these community affairs, so we're going to see how this plays out and hope they don't just ban me forever. It's ridiculous that people are afraid of speaking around staff and moderators in-game for fear of instant bans.

Edit 2: I've gotta sleep, but this gained a ton of traction. I've read most of the replies and have a lot of responses. Yes, I know what I said can be interpreted as offensive especially to someone who doesn't know me, but I was given no chance to explain myself and was given a ridiculous penalty (full suspension for 3/4 days rather than a chat-ban as is appropriate). And the guy himself was busy breaking rules while banning me, as he spent the match AFK (you can even see him in the same place on the map in the second link for quite some time). And I know being gay doesn't give me the right to be homophobic, it was background to the reason of why I use that meme. If you're offended by something that's said, and you refuse to talk about it, then you're going to be hurt by a lot of people who aren't trying to hurt you. It's how you treat those groups that determines if you're actually discriminating, and I'm pretty damn sure I don't go around discriminating against and hating gays. Goodnight tenno, be kind to each other.

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over 5 years ago - /u/rebulast - Direct link

There’s several things to cover here - apologies for the delayed reply:

The ‘offense’:

Fundamentally if someone uses gay as a derogatory term in any context, with a 'jk' follow up or otherwise to diffuse the prior use, meme or otherwise, it's can’t be tolerated. It’d be unconscionable ‘to allow derogatory use of marginalized communities, but only if followed by jk’. We won’t do that.

The ‘punisher’:

How that impacts your feelings about a dev is one thing, but if someone said ‘baruuk is the big gay’ to me in chat I would have dealt with the behaviour too! This account will have the normal consequences applied to it that any other account would in this case, which have been dealt with in a support ticket (with a restored account).

The ‘rest’:

The short fact is that while we aren’t replying to every accusation, we are reviewing them, and we’ll ensure this doesn’t happen again.

over 5 years ago - /u/rebulast - Direct link

Originally posted by Wail_Bait

Why does Glen even have the ability to ban people? Shouldn't he have to send screenshots or chat logs to support just like anyone else?

Yep - that's the procedure and will be enforced.