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almost 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by Expensive-Patient-40

This may make me really sound like an ass as I know that the balance team doesn't do these balance changes because of numbers but in reality they really gotta start understanding that some champs are just better in different elos like Master yi for the low ELO and champs like Katerina and Lee sin for the higher elos they really need to start balancing around the specific elos instead of in general win rates

Done! The team takes multiple things into account when making balance changes, and we don't actually look at the general winrate of a champion, but when looking at winrate data we make a point to only look at their winrate in different elo brackets. This helps us target buffs/nerfs to those elos. For example lower elo games tend to go longer, so buffing a champions 3rd ability rank ups tends to favor lower elo games. Where as higher skilled players are able to close out games sooner and base stats (like base AD or health) tend to be better targets if we need to buff a champion at higher level play.

This isn't a universal rule, and different champions and abilities all have their quirks, but I hope that sheads some light on how we come to the types of changes that we do.

almost 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by Elegaynte

Are you guys looking into Kayle? A lot of people have been complaining about how horrible she is, and justifiably so ever since she was nerfed too hard since the beginning of the year but she hasn't been acknowledged ever since and I already know a few Support Riot ticket employees who responded to me agree with my sentiment but nothing has been done about it yet. Lategame mid champions like Viegar get generously buffed but Kayle seems to get left in the dust and ignored. Sadge 😭

Endstep and I were talking about her the other day. The truth of it is that while many players on this subreddit say she is weak, she is actually doing fine. We would like to find a way to increase her satisfaction, but she doesn't actually need a buff.

Reddit can be a bit of an echo chamber, and many players over value the early game, where she is intended to be weak, but she is doing better than many popular champions.

almost 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by beclipse

Ok, but what about Veigar? He needs a nerf as soon as possible, his cage power is insane. Also Akali's energy regen was nerfed too much, she needs a buff more than Katarina.

What is your evidence for champions needing buffs and nerfs? It is very possible that these champions do need some adjustments (I haven't looked at their data recently). Historically Akali has been weak, but is highly frustrating for many players.