[2020] Where did my thread of proposals go?

Any posts that were 6 mo or older were archived, anything that had comments that were recent were moved. Your signature post SHOULD be working.

-Hapa

The forum rules clearly state that 6 mo or older are considered necro. So the best thing you can do is post new content

Most if not ALL of LWM's content is frequented VERY often and most times pinned, if something is pinned and still applicable that content was moved as well. Beyond that, Mouse is a CC, and the forums are her venue for her content. In this case, assuming whatever it was that she had up that wasn't pinned or up to date, that content would have been lost as well.

-Hapa

Look you can both be angry all you want, I am one person literally moving topics by myself.

Beyond that, I am still sifting through A LOT of posts literally thousands. Let me stop what I am doing and shift to look at this.

-Hapa

As I told you, technically any conversations that had no activity for 6 mo, under the forum guidelines is considered necro.

Folks,

No offense, but the content that is posted in these forums is not technically owned by you. For management and organization wipes have to occur from time to time. And I know for a fact have in the past.

There is a reason why I have a line in my post that say PM ME if you are missing something that you think should moved.

Furthermore, this is why I typically suggest to folks, if they have a significant set of data that they wish to keep or work they have posted that they back it up themselves, and this is often recommended in other media venues like YT for example.

Also, the necro rule has been in place in these forums for quite some time.

All that being said, your posts have been moved.

-Hapa

Ya'll, lets chat,

All of the stuff happening with forum posts disappearing, or moving around, is simply us trying to streamline the forums, clean up out of date, or old content, and continue moving conversations forward. I think that we're making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill here. If there is a post that you'd like to have brought back to the surface, let us know, we can explore that. But, please don't think any of this is done with malice intent, or in an effort to raise someone, lower someone, or impact someone's work.

The forums were a mess, there were so many insanely out of date posts, and a ridiculous number of subforums that just muddied the water, so we decided to clean it up. If you have a post that is older than 6 months, that is still relevant and is regularly engaged, it would not have been impacted by these changes.

No one here is saying that we won't bring back older or out of date posts, we're simply trying to do some housekeeping. If there are specific posts, as I've mentioned, and @Hapa_Fodder has mentioned, we'll bring them back up.

We also have to consider the concept of relevancy, when it comes to content that is out of date or has been completely changed, modified, is having that content fill these forums worth it?

I want to be clear, if we have not been already, none of these posts are GONE, they are not removed from our database, they have not been deleted, or destroyed, they are simply in subforums that are not visible at the moment, in an effort to clean up the forums. Please direct any ire towards me, as I was the one who decided to make this effort to clean up the forums.

I also want to repeat, this was not done with malice intent, or in an attempt to save data or whatever other else someone may think. The NA forums were a mess - conversations so completely and utterly split apart, with little to no semblance of balance, or flow.

At this point, it does not matter what I say, it will be challenged, and ultimately the conversation will not end in any way that results in anyone being happy about it. Ultimately, we decided to clean up the forums, and as has been made obvious, some items have been impacted, which were not done intentionally, and we'll work with those who have been impacted to remedy that, which we've been saying multiple times in this thread.

I'm going to look into this tomorrow, I've already reached out to LWM and Lert, to discuss. The last thing we want to do is ostracize, or remove any content that is still relevant.

I am not sure what you mean by the first line, can you clarify?

Why did I feel the need to clean up the forums? It is my job to continue to grow, evolve, and expand community engagement, and by reducing the clutter of subforums and completely out of date information we are able to get closer to that goal. Some of the side effects are unfortunate, to put it mildly, but, as we've stated countless times, it is not without remedy.

Yes, we shared the planned changes with our forum moderators and a few other folks before we decided to make these changes.

Also, this is not some major dramatic change that we've made. Really, it is actually pretty straight forward, we removed a bunch of subforums that were redundant and did not have any real purpose but to drive conversations further into the abyss.

As I have said above, we'll review the impact it has had - regarding the archived posts, and decide on what our next steps are.

Edit: I removed a line from this post that was ultimately irrelevant. The TLDR of that line was that we are also humans, and we made these changes, not on a whim, but with consideration of the community, now, and in the future.

The counter-argument about humans was in relation to Herr_Reitz's mentioning that the community is comprised of humans. Nothing more. :) We've also expressed multiple times, that if you are missing any content, please feel free to contact us, and we'd be sure to make sure it is remedied. In fact, that was highlighted in the original post, when we mentioned this change.

And just to be clear, our moderators did not make this decision, they were consulted about these changes, but ultimately, the NA community team made these decisions.

This conversation is going in circles and has become an echo chamber, feel free to continue the conversation, but I cannot reiterate my stance on this enough.

I have said above, we'll review the impact it has had - regarding the archived posts, and decide on what our next steps are.

Hey there, Spud.
Please let me assure you, forum changes have nothing to do with anything as it relates to literally any system in World of Warships. The forums are only connected to the game because of the shared login using single sign on.

That said, we also support those people mentioned and will continue to do so. Further, our team focuses specifically on community engagement such as the forums, forum contests, live-streams, Discord chats, etc. We do not have our hands in game code at all. We share your feedback with the developers, and relay what is happening within the game, but our focus here does not take away resources from game specific mechanics or changes/updates.