[2021] online dead

As a primarily Singleplayer and Cooperative game, Most people play in Singleplayer or on private passworded servers with their friends. You're not likely to find m/any servers at all that have people in them that are public just due to the potential for griefing. The game also is intended for 1-8 players with an upper limit of 16; so you wont find servers with more than that either.

If you want some randoms to play with, your best bet is to check the Meeting Room subforum along the right side -->; Alternatively check the Servers section.

Originally posted by ZombieCo: The servers are dead because everyone is waiting for the next update. (They take forever.) This wasn't marketed as a primarily single player game. Thats news to me...

Originally posted by Shurenai: As a primarily Singleplayer- and-Cooperative game, . .

Originally posted by Early Access Blurb from the store page: What the developers have to say:
“7 Days to Die thrusts players into the aftermath of the fall of civilization with only their wits and bare hands to survive. In this continually evolving title currently in alpha stage development, players must explore the open world alone-or-with friends to build tools, weapons and shelter against the dangers of the reanimated dead, infected wildlife and the world itself.”

It's been marketed as a Singleplayer and/or Cooperative game with a playercount of 1-8 players, with 16 being the highest allowable through default settings (Dedicated server CAN go higher, but probably shouldnt.) -- This probably shouldn't be news to you.

And the publicly visible servers are largely dead because most people dont want to join public servers where any ol jerk can jump in, steal all their crap and blow up their base; Nor do most people want to deal with random hackers hopping into the game. There's 20-30~k people playing daily. Most are in SP, or in passworded servers with friends or people picked up from the meeting room or server subforums. This isn't rust where everyone that plays it gets off on PVP or accepts their base being ransacked as an unavoidable fact of life.

Originally posted by ZombieCo: This wasn't marketed as a primarily single player game. Thats news to me...

Originally it didn't even have multiplayer, or plans for a co-op mode. That was added in later because it was so hugely requested.

The game supports Single-player, and 8-player co-op. This isn't an MMO, or something like Ark or Conan that supports 70-player servers.

Originally posted by MetalMastodon:

Originally posted by ThirdGen: Griefers don't get to play with players, they get to play with other griefers.

I feel that the standard for what is considered a "griefer" now a days has been put wayyyyy too low. Coming from Rust and being called a "griefer" just for KOS or offline raiding..... the term literally has no meaning anymore. It used to be that a griefer meant you were literally harassing someone, not leaving them alone for hours or days on end. Now all you need to do to be a griefer is not let people live. Sad

That is pretty literally the definition of Griefer, though. To harass or deliberately provoke othjer players to the express end of spoiling their enjoyment of the game.

The definition from Dictionary.com:
Griefer
noun
an online game player who intentionally spoils the game for other players

So yes, To a player that does NOT enjoy their base being offline raided, and who does NOT enjoy getting killed at random, A player doing those things to them spoils the game for them; Ergo the offending player is a griefer, from the perspective of that theoretical player.

It is absolutely a subjective term; That I will not contend. But it very much falls within the literally accepted definition of the word.

Originally posted by SQUIID:

Originally posted by Shurenai: That is pretty literally the definition of Griefer, though. To harass or deliberately provoke othjer players to the express end of spoiling their enjoyment of the game.

The definition from Dictionary.com:
Griefer
noun
an online game player who intentionally spoils the game for other players

So yes, To a player that does NOT enjoy their base being offline raided, and who does NOT enjoy getting killed at random, A player doing those things to them spoils the game for them; Ergo the offending player is a griefer, from the perspective of that theoretical player.

It is absolutely a subjective term; That I will not contend. But it very much falls within the literally accepted definition of the word.

whats the fun in no action?

To you? Maybe not much. To me? Quite a lot, thank you. I get enough stress and action from zombies beating at my door and the time crunch of the next horde night without also having to constantly worrying that I'll log back in to my base having explosion holes in it, and all my chests emptied of anything valuable.

I avoid playing 7DTD on public servers at all because I consider such a thing to be utterly unacceptable. If I spend 40 hours grinding out materials and building up a fancy base, I dont want all that torn asunder in 30 minutes while i'm offline by some random guy who stumbled upon my place.

And the majority of the playerbase is in general agreeance to my stance- This is a Singleplayer/Cooperative game. Noone wants a griefer in a coop game. Noone wants to be the one who has "That guy" show up and ruin all their progress.

You may not agree with that stance; And you're welcome to that opinion. But, Most fans of this game do not share it, and that is evidenced by the huge number of people that play in SP or in a passworded server where the players that join can be pretty strictly controlled.

Edit: Oh and heck, Just as an aside, There are several PVP servers for the game; But basically all of the ones I've seen have massively cranked loot settings and a starting kit. So it seems to me, at least in my limited view of the pvp servers I've seen, even the pvpers here dont wanna deal with griefers and losing all their progress.