[2021] Removed Blocks in A20

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Originally posted by ⚜ WHITE KNIGHT ⚜: As I said in the other thread, I disagree.

What does material streamlining have anything to do with this game "becoming a FPS arcade game"??

When I buld a base I want immediately to build it with the best material I can afford at the moment: that does not change. In A19 you start with Flagstone? Well, in A20 you'll start directly with Cobblestone or Wood maybe. But the new wood will have the same HP as A19's reinforced wood, so.

Oh wait.... What? OK I didn't catch that the new base-level blocks will have the same strength as the upgraded versions. Well that was really my only complaint, so I guess I'm OK with it... But still, I did kinda like the feeling of progress while upgrading within tiers but I'm not gonna judge on mah feelz.

Yes; You're not losing out on HP. They've just removed the tedious intermediary step of HAVING to put in a bunch of material and time upgrading all the blocks you placed (Because lets be real, Noone used the first stage of blocks unless they had literally no time left before death fell atop their head)

You no longer have to think about whether your wall is going to be breached if your block reaches 0 hp, or if it will downgrade; All materials are now equal, and all will break if inadequately repaired.

As for material Types in design, That's what paint is and has always been for.

And of course, Let's not latch onto "Omg, we're losing all our options!" because we're getting a shape menu that lets us build with basically every shape in the game; Something builders have been creaming their pants at the thought of and begging for for a dozen alphas.


Builders aren't screwed; They're better off than ever. No more creative mode needed to get that shape you want- IT's at your fingertips now, in any material; not just rebar frames.

It's easier to build, It's more rewarding to build, You've got over a thousand shape options for building instead of what, 25? Maybe 50 if you're building in rebar frames? It's easier to maintain, There's no confusing wet concrete steps (Which yes, For a veteran is no longer confusion; But we regularly have newbies coming through baffled as to why upgrading their concrete made it wet again, which was the stage before the concrete.)

It's streamlined; yes. But the things removed ultimately did not make a significant difference to a builder, And the things added DO make a significant difference to a builder.

Originally posted by seven:

Originally posted by Shurenai: As for material Types in design, That's what paint is and has always been for.

They mentioned during the stream that the game was near the limit for textures and couldn't really add more. I find the current set of paints rather lacking.

I agree- But the textures from the removed blocks are still in the game; If you like the brick texture, You can still use it. It's not as if bricks are gone forever from the 7DTD world as the alarmist phrasing in the OP would lead you to believe.

Believe me; I wish there were a lot more options for painting. And I loathe that we're basically at the limit.


And on the topic of the 'hassle' of farming paint; you were going to have to farm material to build in bricks/reinforced materials anyway, So it's not much different in that regard that you now instead have to farm materials for paint.