[2024] Updates fully compatible to old saves PLEASE

Originally posted by Jaxom:

Originally posted by SleepWalker: Uh... i went into the settings and chose a previous alpha and WOW I was able to play it. Without internet, without updating. That's how I just spent 3 months of playing alpha 19, without having to update the game once.

Well that's fantastic, but in FOUR months when I want to continue my game, what then perhaps? Hence my OP. Seriously.... READ what I requested..

They have betas still in the list from 8 years ago and you're worried that 4 months is going to see a major current version suddenly disappear? C'mon. Go into the beta and select 1.1 and stop complaining about this nothing burger. You can play 1.1 for the next decade if you wish with your saved game fully ripe and preserved. Even if your game automatically updated to 1.2 (which it wouldn't since it is an experimental beta itself atm) you could then go into the list and choose 1.1 to be redownloaded and your save would be there waiting for you.

The advice you've been given is the correct advice. Going into Steam and toggling automatic updates to off sounds like exactly the peace of mind you need.

Originally posted by Jaxom:

Originally posted by JimmyIowa: Since they are still in the process of adding and changing content, they will probably recommend updating for some time now. Probably through mid 2025 at least.

NAH! The point is a "Starting A New Game" should NOT be required when update is released past v1.0. EVER.
The update SHOULD be compatible. But devs deny that.

Your point of view is flawed. Your standards would necessarily prevent many of the types of content updates that most players want to see added to the game. It is perfectly acceptable for an update to require a restart as long as the previous version is maintained allowing players to continue their existing saves. This is done all the time in the industry which it would not be if what you state was the actual standard.

Even on console Microsoft and Sony allow updates that require a brand new save as long as the current save is preserved and opting into the new update that would break saves is optional and not forced.

You can remain on 1.1 indefinitely. There is no need for a restart once 1.2 comes out as the stable public build. Many people have successfully continued their existing saves with 1.2 while some have reported problems. You can roll the dice and download the experimental and see if your save works or you can turn off auto updates in Steam and remain on 1.1 until you are ready to start a new game. Even then you can start your new game on 1.1 again or decide to switch to whatever the current stable build will be.

Honestly, you were asking for a way to do exactly this in the last paragraph of your OP and it exists in exactly the way YOU claimed would be acceptable to you.

Originally posted by Jaxom: THEN TELL me when Steam says there's an update and I CANNOT PRESS PLAY because it says UPDATE first - now tell me how to NOT update so I can keep a pre-existing game intact. HUH?

I think you are trolling at this point but since it is good information for any reader there are three possibilities:

1) Right click on your game in your library today and select Properties and then Betas. Select 1.1 stable from the dropdown menu. Your game will never update past 1.1 until you change the version yourself.

2) Right click on your game in your library today and select Properties and then Updates. Select Update on launch. Now your game will only update when you launch it. If you don't want it to update then at that point go up to option 1 and do it.

3) Don't do anything today. In 2-3 weeks when 1.2 releases to stable and your game automatically updates to 1.2 while you're at work and you come home and see that it is 1.2 and are afraid it might not work well with your save. At that point, go up to option 1 and do it.

If that isn't clear enough for you and you continue in your belligerent and trollish behavior towards the many people in this thread who have given you perfectly good advice....well, then....I will show you exactly who I am.

Bonus!

4) If you come home from work and you see your game already queued to be updated and you can't press play because it wants to update right click on the game (instead of clicking update) and select properties and then betas and then 1.1 stable from the list.

5) If you come home from work and you see your game already queued to be updated and you panic and hit update and it updates to 1.2, simply right click on the game in your library, select properties, betas, and 1.1 stable from the list and it will revert to the version you are wanting.

Read the last paragraph of your OP again. I think you forgot you wrote it. This is exactly what you were asking for and I think I have covered every possible contingency and I hope it helps others who read this if it turns out you're just having some trollish fun on the forums today.

Originally posted by Jaxom: That's really funny - did you forget?
Provide an option to preserve the version so current games can be continued indefinitely as players are expecting the game to be.
Thanks."

Nope. Didn't forget. Answered with step by step instructions.

Without all the BS of your post:
1) Beta will be gone in the next update.

Untrue. There are still versions from 8 years ago fully intact in the beta list. You are 100% wrong on this. Version 1.1 will not disappear after the next update. Period.

2) Steam WILL NOT allow play without update.

Untrue. You can right click on the game in queue to be updated and select the old version which will cancel the update OR if you do update to 1.2 you can revert using the same method. Your assumptions are incorrect and easily verifiable.

3) YEAH - My current game is to waste when this new version will be release. Hello OP!?

Wrong. You can stay on 1.1 forever just as you requested up above. Did you forget?

4) HUH!? I don't get it, select a TEMPORAY beta version?

You're misinformed. The versions in Steam's beta list are not temporary. I could play a version from 2015 tonight if so wished. How's that temporary?

5) So I can set a version FOR EVER!~?? Ah, No, Steam SAY NO.

Steam says yes. Everyone here says yes. Only you say no. That's fine. Don't use it. At least the correct information is pinned by your OP for other readers.

You are a moron. Thanks for your ideas & effort in typing, but you completely missed the point...

Good one.

DO NOT TROLL MY VALID REQUEST. thanks.

Your valid request has already been granted. You're welcome.

This thread has run its course, and had the expected outcome. Please avoid trolling people.

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