[2021] KingGen = magic???

Among other things, Nitrogen(Which is obsolete and outdated at this point, developer of it hasnt been active iirc) skips a lot of polishing steps the main game's engine takes care with in favor of getting a faster generation time. Like, There are a lot of old long-fixed bugs in the RWG that nitrogen just allows because fixing those issues makes generation take a lot longer.

I'm assuming KingGen does something similar; Shortcuts, "Close enough"'s and acceptance of imperfection in return for a much faster generation time.


Also don't be so quick to think you won't use vanilla RWG again... A20 RWG is a HUGE change and should generate significantly faster than A19.x rwg.

Originally posted by Rafael_Knight_93:

Originally posted by Shurenai: Among other things, Nitrogen(Which is obsolete and outdated at this point, developer of it hasnt been active iirc) skips a lot of polishing steps the main game's engine takes care with in favor of getting a faster generation time. Like, There are a lot of old long-fixed bugs in the RWG that nitrogen just allows because fixing those issues makes generation take a lot longer.

I'm assuming KingGen does something similar; Shortcuts, "Close enough"'s and acceptance of imperfection in return for a much faster generation time.


Also don't be so quick to think you won't use vanilla RWG again... A20 RWG is a HUGE change and should generate significantly faster than A19.x rwg.

If A20 significantly improves map generation time, i'll gladly use it again, I just really don't want to be stuck waiting 30 minutes for the game to generate a map... I'm normally a patient person, but that's a bit too much for me lol.

So, until A20 comes around (and significantly improved upon), guess i'll have to stick with KingGen. I just found out it is fully compatible with RavenHearst, which seems to be quite a huge mod, so that's another big plus. I just really hope A20 can do some magic like KingGen did, since apparently it MIGHT be coming with a procedural underground/sewer system which i find really interesting.

Also, i can't help but find it a little odd that KingGen might do things similarly to NitroGen, yet it generates things like 10x faster. Maybe it's because NitroGen is obsolete, as you said it yourself. In any case, i am really happy i bought this game after KingGen came out - if i had bought it earlier, i might have refunded it and be depressed about it :(

When nitrogen was current and functional, It'd generate 16k maps in maybe 5-10 mins tops; And that's in my potato.. So yeah, it's likely that it's just out of date/unmaintained... May also just be having issues working in your specific environment.

https://www.twitch.tv/fubar_prime There's a dev livestream atm on A20; They started off talking about and showing RWG changes, so once the stream ends you could go to the VOD and watch the first 30-40 mins to check in on some of the A20 RWG stuff.