6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Good afternoon friends,

There has been a lot of questions and commentary regarding how the A2 keys work since our AMA yesterday. We are preparing an article to release on the website tomorrow or Monday regarding how the keys and phases work in broader detail. I will take a moment in this thread to clarify in detail how the Alpha 2 keys work and answer some questions in this thread;

  • If you own an Alpha 2 key from previous preorder packages or Kickstarter, you have access to all phases of Alpha 2. Alpha 2 begins for you on the weekend of October 25th.
  • New Phase 1 keys will consist of weekend testing starting with weekend testing beginning for November 8th.
  • New Phase 2 keys will consist of week long testing (5 days at a time) beginning December 20th.
  • New Phase 3 keys will consist of 24/7 testing, and is intended to run until the game launches.
  • Purchasing into a phase, grants access to subsequent phases.
  • When Beta starts, the Alpha 2 servers will live concurrently alongside the Beta servers. Players who own Alpha 2 keys (including the new phase keys) will also have access to the Beta servers.
  • Alpha 2 phase 3, is expected to last at least 1 year. This is of course subject to change due to active development.
  • Alpha 2 does not have a subscription cost.
  • When the game launches, Ashes will not have a box price.

The cost behind Alpha access accounts for server and CDN costs associated with a live service product. And while this is not a finished game, it will be a live service Alpha that we will be updating on a 6 week basis as we build out the rest of the game's content and features.

This addresses most of the commentary I have read that required clarification.

I want to reiterate, you should NOT consider purchasing testing access to Ashes, if your intent is to play a completed game. This is not a typical approach of development and marketing. It will be rough, buggy and require dedicated players who are willing to be testers. We have our internal QA teams, along with externally contracted QA testers that are testing Ashes right now, every day. And I understand that this approach is not everyone's cup of tea, but this is the path we are taking because I believe it will yield a better finished product.

Happy to answer questions in the comments below!

<3

Update Edit : We have heard the feedback regarding the new key packs, and we have made adjustments to address the concerns. First, Second, and Third Wave have now been changed into Bundles which include Alpha Two, Beta One, and Beta Two access, 1 Month of Subscription Time ($15 value), and $15 in Embers (in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W!).

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6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Good afternoon friends,

There has been a lot of questions and commentary regarding how the A2 keys work since our AMA yesterday. We are preparing an article to release on the website tomorrow or Monday regarding how the keys and phases work in broader detail. I will take a moment in this thread to clarify in detail how the Alpha 2 keys work and answer some questions in this thread;

  • If you own an Alpha 2 key from previous preorder packages or Kickstarter, you have access to all phases of Alpha 2. Alpha 2 begins for you on the weekend of October 25th.
  • New Phase 1 keys will consist of weekend testing starting with weekend testing beginning for November 8th.
  • New Phase 2 keys will consist of week long testing (5 days at a time) beginning December 20th.
  • New Phase 3 keys will consist of 24/7 testing, and is intended to run until the game launches.
  • Purchasing into a phase, grants access to subsequent phases.
  • When Beta starts, the Alpha 2 servers will live concurrently alongside the Beta servers. Players who own Alpha 2 keys (including the new phase keys) will also have access to the Beta servers.
  • Alpha 2 phase 3, is expected to last at least 1 year. This is of course subject to change due to active development.
  • Alpha 2 does not have a subscription cost.
  • When the game launches, Ashes will not have a box price.

The cost behind Alpha access accounts for server and CDN costs associated with a live service product. And while this is not a finished game, it will be a live service Alpha that we will be updating on a 6 week basis as we build out the rest of the game's content and features.

This addresses most of the commentary I have read that required clarification.

I want to reiterate, you should NOT consider purchasing testing access to Ashes, if your intent is to play a completed game. This is not a typical approach of development and marketing. It will be rough, buggy and require dedicated players who are willing to be testers. We have our internal QA teams, along with externally contracted QA testers that are testing Ashes right now, every day. And I understand that this approach is not everyone's cup of tea, but this is the path we are taking because I believe it will yield a better finished product.

Happy to answer questions in the comments below!

<3

Update Edit : We have heard the feedback regarding the new key packs, and we have made adjustments to address the concerns. First, Second, and Third Wave have now been changed into Bundles which include Alpha Two, Beta One, and Beta Two access, 1 Month of Subscription Time ($15 value), and $15 in Embers (in-game marketplace credits, NO P2W!).

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6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by SanicExplosion

What is the highest lower bound you would say for alpha 2 development time. I know you just said "at least 1 year", but whats the highest that you could confidently go for that?

There is significant complexity in answering that question, but the short of it is that this depends heavily on our ability as a studio to leverage outsource teams for content creation, and is heavily heavily dependent on what requires iteration due to the testing of A2

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Aez4x80

When Beta starts, the Alpha 2 servers will live concurrently alongside the Beta servers. Players who own Alpha 2 keys (including the new phase keys).

What does this mean? Seems like you forgot to finish the second sentence.

Thanks! I fixed it xD

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Hopeful_Contact_2057

The main question that I've seen from potential new members of the community is, "Why is an incomplete game priced at $100+ when finished games cost $60?" I assume this is because Intrepid wants to allow people the ability to join the test while limiting the number of testers to a reasonable level and cover expenses at the same time. Is that fair to say?

Yes. There is a combination answer here; It is also true that price directly speaks to (in most cases) the dedication of a user to help ensure higher quality testing, it is also fair to say that users cost money to host on servers and download the game. Given the length of A2, being at least 12 months, we are accounting for those costs with this price.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by SanicExplosion

On the topic of outsourcing for content creation, can you expand on that? Is that just things like assets, or things that are more involved?

Thanks for the response btw

This is mostly assets like buildings, icons, anims, creatures/armors etc.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by haonm5

Were Alpha 2 keys already sent out to those who preordered packages in the past?

Users who own a package should be able to log into their account and see their package in their account inventory. If not they should submit a ticket to our CS team

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by NiKras

Is the "Alpha Key holders have access to Betas" a change that you made today?

And if it's not a super recent change then why did Vaknar tell me that my A2 key (that I got for the food contest last winter) would not give me access to the Betas?

Or does this functionality only work for people who have paid for their A2 keys?

During the stream, there was some confusion around clarifying that giveaway keys we have done in the past, for example the food contest keys, do not provide access to subsequent alpha/testing phases.

However, any keys that have been purchased provide access to subsequent testing phases. So if a user owns a key to any Alpha phase that they have purchased, they also own access to Beta as well.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Backstabber09

Intrepid has become more greedy than Ubisoft and EA with their $120 Alpha pricing :) Downvote me, white knights, and Corpo boot Lickers.

This pricing is in part intended to reflect the costs associated with running the Alpha for a year. It is often forgot, that the primary funding for this game comes from me. And that the company or myself has never made a profit. This is a passion project, not a project of greed my friend.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Mc_leafy

Could you clarify why there have been multiple tax liens in the past few years? And why you refuse to share financials with the investor that apparently gave you 2 million? To be clear I am VERY excited for this game. It seems like everything I want in an MMO. But I have read some things that make me concerned to give you money at this stage of development.

Tax liens stem from us as a company changing payroll providers and how the state filings were done. This coupled with our change in address from 2020-2021 and not receiving the proper notices. With regards to the suit, that was dismissed and withdrawn and I am not able to speak to it. I want to be clear, no person should give Intrepid money at this stage, unless they are doing so to support a vision or to test a product. Neither of which are a game. Wait till launch, and then you wont need to evaluate concerns, the product and company will speak for itself.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Heartofgrimoires

Hi Steven, big fan of the change to allow beta access for A2 buyers.

Will there be future community events for alpha keys?

There absolutely will be. We will conduct giveaways and lotteries when the time is right.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Outside_Ad1669

Only question I have is about the Alpha servers. And when they become PTR. Will there be different versions of the service on the Alphas prior to that version going to betas?

There may be slightly different versions of the Alpha or Beta systems, but generally they will consist of the same content.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Sockski

Thank you for this post Steven. Your dedication to transparency and tireless efforts to do right by the community while following your passion are appreciated.

TY my friend for your support <3

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Jorgiee93

  1. Will there be dedicated OCE/SA servers in the future alpha phase?

  2. Will there be a certain amount of alpha 2 keys released? First in best dressed...

Thankyou.

  1. Unknown yet, but subject also to demand for those regions.
  2. There are some limited supplies for these phases, but we will give notice for if and when that is reached.
6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by AndrossOT

Will there be any giveaways or chances to get in besides that price tag? Regardless, cheers to hoping itll be as fun as Archeage's alpha

There absolutely will be. We will conduct giveaways and lotteries when the time is right.

And thank you my friend.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by ImJstR

Great to see that the new A2 keyholders will have access to the beta servers aswell!

Will there be a way of gifting a key to someone else? Would like to purchase a phase 2 key to my brother for Christmas but it feels off to either give him cash and say "this is for the Ashes of Creation alpha 2" or set an account without him knowing.

I know this might be such a niche "problem" that it isnt worth dealing with, but would be nice to have a way to generate actual keys and a way for someone to redeem said key.

That is not yet a feature we will be supporting in the near future. Sorry my friend.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by GOALID

Will purchasable cosmetics be on sale during Alpha 2?

That is not currently planned. However, it may be possible that during later stages of the Alpha testing, we may want to begin testing the cosmetic marketplace in preparation for launch.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by SmeV122

Steven, just out of curiosity, would there be any cosmetics we would be able to buy during the Alpha testing or will the cosmetic shop not be available?

It may be possible that during later stages of the Alpha testing, we may want to begin testing the cosmetic marketplace in preparation for launch.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by UndertownCitizen

Earlier on the stream with the demonstration of Server Meshing, you said that all Alpha 1 players will be invited to the spot tests of Alpha 2 in August. Is this still the case?

We have so far invited over 3k Alpha One testers into our spot testing.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by Dontfrown

Asking for clarification, does "New Phase 2 keys will consist of week long testing (5 days at a time) beginning December 20th." mean we can expect the 2 days downtime to be Wed/Thurs?

Thanks

That is currently the plan but subject to change.

6 months ago - /u/Steven_AoC - Direct link

Originally posted by The_Cartographer_DM

Why has no open test been planned yet to stress test systems like nodes against zergs and large co ordinated communities? Both betas are supposedly going to be closed tests too which sounds like a bad idea to leave for launch.

We have been stress testing these systems.