[2022] The AI needs an overhual.

Originally posted by Prink_

While I totally agree that current AI is pretty bad and needs an overhaul, I think you are massively underestimating how much work there is to create a correct AI. Next update is unrealistic and like others say there is a lot of things that are likely higher priority than this.

The way AI work currently (excluding machine learning which is a whole other can of worms) is by manually programming each cases, an enormous task by itself, and then having weights that determine the priority in of said action. Obviously those weights needs to be adjusted depending on context and player given order.

This is a massive undertaking that is hard to justify prioritising in a game where a lot of people don't even play with bots

Originally posted by Knifetoface

I’ve done lots of fiddling around in the sub editor and what I’ve discovered is that most of the time containers such as medical compartments, fabricator compartments, ammo loaders, etc. simply aren’t tagged. If you tag the containers in a sub properly (you can even tag the suit cases within the containers!) The bots will not only efficiently put things away but they’ll do it very quickly!

https://imgur.com/a/5oWdEs7

I think the issue is that the way the AI works in the game is very confusing. It took me several hours to figure out how to properly tag a ship so that the bots know how to put things away. Making it easier to understand would be great. Now that I figured it out however the bots are extremely good at loading weapons and putting away materials all where they need to go!

There are some restrictions currently. I wish there was a way to label spent ammo to go somewhere different other than where full ammo goes. So far I haven’t figured out a way to have them automatically pick up fruit that falls on the ground and put it in a specific location.

Originally posted by Knifetoface

Thank you!

So I would put “plantcontainer” in the tags line for the cabinet in the grow room the same way I put “storagecab” on the locker in the fab room?

I tried putting “plantitem” in that line but it did not recognize that. I figured since all plants, seeds etc have “plantitem” in their tags they would be directed there but sadly not!

So to properly tag a storage container I do not use the common tags of the items I want in that container like “plantitem”. What I actually need is some grouping tag like “plantcontainer” or “storagecab”. How would I then go about tagging a container for a specific item? Would I use a grouping tag that included the item I want then in the restrictions line use a tag that is exclusive to that item or the items name itself?

Ill look at this when I get home, but does the item config file show the grouping tags for items such as “plantcontainer” “storagecab” etc? Where do I found the others? I definitely want to know them all! I found storagecab on the wiki but they did not have plantcontainer and I might never of found it if not for you!

There is a lot more to know I guess!

Edit: “plantcontainer” doesn’t work!

Originally posted by Knifetoface

Where do I find a list of these preferred containers in the files?

Thanks.