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Wow overreaction much? It literally read like a copypasta. I don't understand why people are letting this game effect them like this. I preordered the game and got screwed over but you don't see me letting it screw with my life so much. If you're that upset with the game just stop playing and find a different better game.
I don't understand why people are letting this game effect them like this
me neither man, me neither
Funny thing is that there were actually no Brits in the Netherlands (don't know about Belgium or France).
It has been a big complaint from here (the Netherlands) that, where Dutch soldiers actually defended the country (and died for it), DICE completely ignores that and puts British soldiers here in their place. They don't even speak Dutch. BF1 had people speaking italian, so we know DICE can do it.
So not only do we don't have any other soldiers besides German en Brits, there should be Dutch, Belgians and French soldiers as well.
All those veterans are completely disrespected in my opinion
u/partwelsh is this on DICE's radar?
Edit: damn this sparked a lot of comments and frustration...maybe now we actually know DICE has seen it they'll get the hint..?
We're aware of how people feel about us not staying true to historical accuracy (in the fashion that you've described). There's not a strict adherence to exact Historical details through Battlefield V, and we're OK with that.
But nothing is implemented in the game with the intention of disrespecting anyone. There's no desire to offend anyone, and the focus is very much on making an enjoyable video game, vs. providing a exact recreation of Historical events.
Understood. Fair enough!
Thank you for the quick reply! Whatever people say, they can't say DICE isn't invested in talking with the whole community 😁
As I’ve volunteered elsewhere, if there’s something that I can add to the conversation or help explain, I will.
I totally agree with this statement and think it is important to remember that it is a game (a good one at that). However, it certianly rubs people the wrong way when we get customisation for a faction that hasn't been released. In the chapter 4 trailer you boasted so many British uniforms (specifically commandos) where are they? Why give us American gear for the British faction? Are you able to confirm if you're going to just mold British and American into 'Allies' ? I feel the community needs to hear this then they can moan and move on. Keeping people in the dark really annoys people, including myself. Nice work on the German cosmetics though!
It’s something I will seek more clarity on. My totally personal perspective on the topic is that it’s the Allied Forces, and so I’ve never placed a great deal of focus on it when I’m playing. I don’t focus too much on the concept of them as the British or English army as others have commented to me on various threads.
For me personally it boils down to red team vs blue team and given that they’re all using each other’s guns I’ve never personally focused on asking the same questions that I know lots of others choose to ask.
In respects to content featured in trailers - I’ll share that with the teams, thanks for pointing that out.
Can you confirm or shed some light on what's going to happen with the addition of the American and Japanese factions in terms of cosmetics? Will these earned US uniforms transfer over or will they stay with the british? I know a lot of people would prefer that we not have stahlhelms running around pacific islands.
We aren’t talking about the Pacific in more detail till later on in the year. But we will talk about these things.
Then why do the Allies have British accents?
Hanna is French. It’s not an exclusive rule.
Right because too much historical accuracy for outfits = game not enjoyable anymore lmao
I’m keen to get more perspective on this if you’re open to it.
Imagining that additional purely authentic uniforms were placed on both factions and you were presented with the opportunity to lock in your company to this option, but you had 0 control over what others chose to equip on their soldiers, would this still be an improvement to your experience?
Would your expectation be that every unit on the Battlefield was locked in on your personal vision of how the Factions should be represented, with no variation?
Feels unbalanced. One would assume we would have a heavy focus on British soldiers and engagements with the earlier conflicts, then transition to later armies, as was lined out in the Tides of War being a walk through different parts of the war. I haven't learned anything in the way I learned with BF1, and as is BFV could be entirely detached from actual conflicts and would seem no different to me. WW2 was about a hell of a lot more than "red vs blue", and if that is the "respect" the team is giving this conflict, then they should've simply gone alt-history.
Instead of getting concise content around the beginning, it feels like things are just being thrown in when they are completed, in a giant panicky rush. The maps so far really just feel like conversions of assets already used in the campaign, really not very exciting. The journey so far... really hasn't taken us anywhere. That is disappointing.
The content drops do not feel properly consecutive, and the BASIC faction differentiation that defines the public understanding of WW2 is completely absent. Instead it feels like a 1940's dress up party with guns. This is just a hot take on the general direction, and I'm not even commenting on the technical state of the maps and gameplay. Things need to improve in big ways, in a lot of areas. I would really appreciate if the team could recognize that.
Gameplay stability and performance is the most important thing for us to address, and is being worked on. No argument from me, and I appreciate you sharing your perspective on the rest.
Sorry but (and I know it’s your own opinion) I disagree with the comment “Red vs Blue”. I understand this from a gaming point of view that priority number 1 is to focus on gameplay, fun, inclusivity, etc. But can I ask this...
What is the point in picking WW2 as an overall theme in the first place? Why was BF1 focused on WW1? Why are we so hyped about the “Pacific”? Because it sets the tone, the story, the feel for the game. For some players, like me, that stuff is really important. I bought the game because I wanted to experience the WW2 theme. Same reason I buy any other game and don’t just generically go and play Fortnite or CoD religiously. It’s the experience...
Also, from a business point of view are you not shooting yourselves in the foot by doing this? Surely more factions, more customisation and variety, will lead to more in game sales for you guys...? Isn’t it better to have as many factions as possible to maximise the potential for more sales? For example, I’ve spent additional £25 already on the starter edition. I got a few nice elites I liked and a real nice set of uniforms a few weeks ago. All my soldiers look sick. I need a new “company” to customise, that is why I can’t wait for separate factions and maybe even Biome specific customisation... until then why should I buy anything else... you know?
There’s no answers here I can provide you with but I’m keen to see others on the thread jump in and share there perspectives as players. Whilst there’s a difference in expectation between us, I’m still keen to get others thoughts on it to share.
I understand that. We all have different opinions. Sorry if I came across like an idiot, I respect you guys and other people’s opinions. Thanks 🙏
You didn’t. Passion just looks like that sometimes.
This comment right here seems to be the embodiment of communication issues between DICE and the community. These are the exact same non-answers we got previously and now the community is upset because we got confirmation that the Americans and British I'm Europe will not be separated. The question had been asked plenty of times before, but no Dev wanted to jump in and give an answer that actually confirmed or denied if there would be a split, or if there would be any British cosmetics coming. In fact, the only reason people know now (before you confirmed with the "red v blue" comment) was because temporyal had made a post about these particular cosmetics being labeled in files as American. The bottom line is, none of this information came from you guys. So yeah I think you should tell us what the current idea is with the Americans and Japanese in the Pacific. So far data mining suggests you guys will be trying to split it. That's fine and all, but this stuff shouldn't come from data mining. I don't think it would be that bad for you to answer the above question with.
"We aren't sure what we'll do yet for USMC and Japan. But we are working out ideas and ways to keep them separate since the community has been vocal about this previously."
Feel free to critique my hypothetical response and how it could still get flak on here. (Honestly please do, I'm not the expert) I feel the response I quoted helps give more insight into what's being talked about for the future and give you guys a chance to see how the community responds to that idea. Let us know what you guys are thinking when it comes to the new theater, the community can and will give you feedback that you can use. Because to be frankly honest, the decisions behind closed doors that you guys have made so far in terms of art direction have missed completely. Try taking the same approach you guys did with the community map in BF4. Make a CTE, get the community involved in the direction of the game.
I can only volunteer that my previous response is exactly what you’ve said it is, it’s a non-answer. I have not answered your question. I have only acknowledged it and looked to volunteer why I am not answering it.
If I were to provide a response similar to the one you suggested, I would be answering the question and worse still I’d be doing something more dangerous in making inferences that we may go the direction you want. To do so (in any circumstance, not specific to this topic) can lead to disappointment for folks who take away different things from that type of answer.
We aren’t talking about Pacific beyond what we said at EA Play, and it’s not right for me to make agreements that may contradict or reinforce present design routes until we get to a point where we lock in and move to polish. Stuff can change, and I’d sooner be able to communicate from a matter of fact vs conjecture and speculation.
That others in the community will choose to speculate is good by me. It’s healthy, and it’s one of the many ways we solicit feedback to help inform design direction.