almost 5 years ago - /u/Phx-Shae - Direct link

Slayers:

After much thought and consideration, we have decided to move forward with closing the Dauntless forums. This decision will allow us to focus on our existing communities on Reddit, Discord, and Twitter to interact more with all of you.

Here's where the conversation will continue:

During the forums downtime, we have found that Reddit and other social networks have served the Dauntless community well. Having fewer, concentrated platforms where Slayers of all experiences and skills can congregate fosters better conversation and makes for a better community.

On our end, we'll be working on improvements to automod, maintaining question threads, updating the sidebar, and more. Let us know if you have any other suggestions, and thank you for being a part of our community!

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almost 5 years ago - /u/Phx-Shae - Direct link

Originally posted by TayDeuze

hmm, kinda sad becaused i liked the forums but alright

will founders receive some kind of compensation, as the special focum icon was sold in the founders pack and now it no longer exists.

Yes, founders will receive 100 platinum for the forum badge :}

Edit: This is subject to change, we are looking are other solutions.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Phx-Shae - Direct link

Originally posted by xXxCURSEDxXx

What about the partners rewards system ?!?

https://imgur.com/a/0tkrEOz

When we moved to Epic logins, it broke this application. We plan to bring it back online in the future <3

almost 5 years ago - /u/Phx-Shae - Direct link

Originally posted by Refl3x1

During the forums downtime, we have found that Reddit and other social networks have served the Dauntless community well. Having fewer, concentrated platforms where Slayers of all experiences and skills can congregate fosters better conversation and makes for a better community.

I disagree completely here. This is stupid.

The forums were the BEST way for feedback and bug reports, it allowed this sub to be less serious. I 100% preferred the forums, as did MANY people. We have made do, because we were led to believe they would return when you originally took them down, and you sought out our feedback on here.

The forums were my preferred way of submitting feedback, and allowing us to manage bugs for you far easier. Since the "temporary" removal of the forums, I have not once looked at the Bug thread. I just looked now, and saw 3 replies to peoples bugs out of the 43 being posted there. 0 responses from Shae, so there's no knowledge you even know these bugs exist. The prior method allowed active users of the community like myself to inform people when a bug was actually a bug, and Shae would be able to see the response, conclude it wasn't a bug and close the thread. Bugs that were actually bugs would be responded to by her, so we knew you knew about them. We had that back and forth communication. Now we do not, you have proved that.

Feedback threads are also a LOT harder on Reddit, because the players like myself who type up detailed feedback get downvoted and our thread shoved to the bottom, hiding it from other players and thus reducing its overall usefulness, and it's far more likely you will fail to see it. I haven't even typed one up regarding the Mastery System, the Mods or Specials, or Winterhorn because I was waiting for the forums to return to do it, as formatting is easier, and visibility is not as much of a problem.

I will say this in the simplest terms I can. This is f**king stupid. I'm ignoring the founder badge problem because who cares, but having your own forums, for the issues listed above, should be VASTLY preferable. If you don't want to put the work into them, then return them as they were. The only reason you took them down was

CLOSED FOR REPAIR

The Dauntless forums will be temporarily unavailable as we transition to a new login system. We do not currently have an ETA for their return, but we will update here as soon as we do.

Well, A you haven't updated that popup, B it isn't temporary, and C you led us to believe the reason for removing it was to transition to the new login system. If this were true, you should be able to do so relatively simply, and give us the bare bones forums we had, because even that is better than this subreddit.

Now comes the other problem. When did this decision happen? Was it when you first took them down? Was it when Liquid made the post seeking what we wanted in them? Was it when you launched 0.8.3? Was it yesterday?

You told us it was temporary. We believed you. Now, a month and a half later, you tell us it will be permanent, and your excuse is

During the forums downtime, we have found that Reddit and other social networks have served the Dauntless community well.

They haven't served well though. The subreddit is flooded with memes and actual discussion and feedback are sandbagged. Discord is not a reliable way for communicating feedback to the devs, nor are Twitter Facebook or Insta. Our only reliable way to submit feedback to the devs is via this subreddit, which is unreliable for the reasons I have listed. You want our feedback? Give us a way to give it to you well, in ways other people can view it, without it being slammed to the bottom, and other people including devs can reply to it. AKA a forum. It's the only real way feedback has ever been able to be given to you in a long form. Just look back at my Cell feedback thread, or my Exotic thread. Those would be sandbagged on this subreddit, the formatting would be useless and it would look like a massive wall of text due to reddit having no drop down spoilers, and the chances of you guys seeing it unless I send it to you guys on discord are low.

You want feedback? Give us a way to give it to you. We waited patiently for the forums, and you slap us in the face for our patience. Maybe if we threw up a bigger shitstorm, you guys wouldn't have made this decision, you would have got them back, instead you are punishing us for being reasonable people and being patient. Doing that will foster an environment where you wont get useful feedback, just impatient people bitching, because last time we were patient, you f**ked us over.

What the f**k guys...

I appreciate you taking the time to write this up, hopefully I can shed some light on the decision. Once we took the forums down, we had a full investigation on bringing them back up (hence u/Liquid0range's post from a while back). We explored our options and possible solutions, but ultimately we chose not to bring the forums back.

This was not an easy decision and definitely not our first, but from historical experience with forums (both with Dauntless and previous game companies we have worked at), we have concluded that the costs of running forums and managing them wouldn't provide us the best outcome. It would begin to hinder the growth of our other social platforms, making it unfair to everyone if we started ignoring one platform over another.

We'll be working on improvements to automod, maintaining question threads, updating the sidebar, and more. Let us know if you have any other suggestions.

Along these lines there will also be developer posts asking for more targeted feedback where we will look at all comments <3 Feedback posts are always welcome and encouraged. As the Reddit grows, we will continue to create better solutions to surface them! (Similar to the introduction of the Memestrom and "Filter Out Memes" button on the sidebar)

This move isn't simple and we will continue to grow and improve with the community. Feel free to mail the Subreddit Mods and Discord Mods with suggestions on what you'd like to see. We discuss all suggestions and work towards the best solutions for the entire community. We will always take your feedback seriously and in no way are stopping the conversation, just moving it <3