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Since they play into each other, with Season 5 being a "Prelude", I have some questions about how that works and what that means.

I'd love to hear from people who have sources for their information on how this works, in particular:

  1. As a "prelude", does that mean that Deep Rock Galactic Season 5 will have features and mentions of another game, and I have to buy a new title to understand what's going on in one I already own?
  2. By (what seems to be) treating an entire season of DRG as advertising space, after TWO seasons of Rockpox and anti-badass, anti-tenacious, anti-mercenary, anti-mining, anti-saluting maid simulator gameplay, has DRG become a playable ad platform for other games? (I should note that I am absolutely not interested in that.)
  3. Will I have items or rewards that I am locked out of in Season 5 if I don't buy Rogue Core?
  4. With the extended duration of a mechanic in DRG (rockpox) being contested as unfun by a significant number of people, do you feel it is respectful of the player base to drag that out so you can spend the next season advertising another game instead of content?

I am... concerned.

These moves lately, with the cellphone app endorsements and now a "prelude" season that isn't clearly defined (more openly developed, I think it was referred to as), these are starting to look like frantic and scattered energies, while honestly feeling like rockpox-ridden season 4 was a "we don't care about DRG anymore, let's get a new game out there to sell" move.

It does not smack of the GSG transparency and engagement with the community that we had before season 1, or through season 2. It feels like you could have told us back in Season 3 that you were redirecting your attentions and didn't care about season 4.

So, GSG. What's the scoop. What does Season 5 being a "Prelude" mean, in your "more open development" terms?

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about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

Originally posted by callingFives

20 30 40+ minutes in the mod queue before it's allowed to post says more than enough.

Is it that someone thinks they're special and should be able to squelch concerns and suppress posts they don't like, even if they don't break the rules?

It'll sit at 0, and we both know it. Let me get my downvotes so I can farm r/agedlikemilk posts in the comments. Either I look foolish, or I'm right to be concerned.

Betcha a whole Enor Pearl that it's An Unnamed Moderator.

Yep. After 48 minutes of this never popping up in the sub, I can only assume that my days of loving DRG are over. When you suppress people's concerns, deliberately, so you can turn a game into an advertising platform without anyone noticing, that's all I need to see. Refusing to let the questions even be asked? That's just shady EA stuff.

Like I said. You play maid simulator and clear the way, I'll dig you 5 as a ~real~ Dwarf.

Your post has not been caught in any filters or been in need of any approval, so pack up the conspiracy theories, please. Also, please edit your post - naming and shaming are not allowed here.

New posts are stuck in the new section until they get enough traction to go on the front page of the sub. The quality of your post is the issue, not the moderators.

about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

Originally posted by callingFives

Yeah, I just had to tag mods directly on two platforms for an hour to get my post out of the mod filter. You know, the sort of thing where you hide a post until it appears somewhere else and there's no reason to hide it anymore.

It was not in the mod filter.

about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

Originally posted by callingFives

No? See, that's a lie, sir.

Cuz reddit tracks mod filtered posts and suppressed posts with the analytics details, one, and two it did not appear on the subreddit until I made a fuss, as per both an incognito and an alt account login and check.

So... I think you're lying, or your mods lied to you.

I am literally staring at the mod log and there's been no posts approved or removed for the last 12 hours.

We can't hide posts outside of removing them and then approving them, and it would show up in the logs.

about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

1: That there will be lore that ties into what Rogue Core is.
2: If you don't like the DRG universe, I don't know what to tell you.
3: Nope
4: We're aware of this, and we're looking into it. No promises. And again, if you're not interested in DRG as a universe, I don't know what to tell you - but it is a thing, and it's not going away because you don't like it.

about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

Originally posted by callingFives

That seems like it took far more than it needed to. I'm still out. You can't be trusted.

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about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

Originally posted by callingFives

Then why did it not appear on the sub in an incognito tab, or log a single view for an hour with 1700 people online?

It's not my first week here, I can read stats

Maybe because there was a lot of activity besides your post? You shouldn't feel special enough to think we'd hide your post specifically. Posts that are aggressive and toxic get removed. Posts that are critical of either the games or decisions we make do not get removed. All feedback is fair feedback if it's not containing any personal attacks or aggressive wording. Yours did not.
The only filters that are active in the auto moderator are there to combat spam from cryptobots + spam from memes and that's it. When the filter is triggered, the post is temporarily removed, and the mods get a message. It's all removed/approved, and it gets logged.

about 1 year ago - /u/GSG_Jacob - Direct link

Originally posted by callingFives

I mod my own sub, my guy, I know how it works, I know a flagged account can require approval, you can auto-delay posts with keywords. You Are Either Lying Or Were Lied To, because it doesn't log approvals only, and you didn't speak up until after it appeared so I suspect you weren't here to approve it. Check with your mods who are lying to you about leaving it to sit until I made a fuss. Cuz someone is lying, and I can do math, AND I understand how the mod dashboard works

nah you know what, do your thing, I ain't gonna spend my time wishing my favorite game had the same transparency that made me love it, or waste time with your moderator's delicate feelings. You will reap all you deserve, and I don't have to do a thing. Way to go from THE Developers setting bars to another company that can't be trusted.

POSTS from a flagged account require APPROVAL because it's REMOVED.

Your account is not flagged, and your post contains nothing that warrants it.

I can see the logs. You're seeing ghosts here.

about 1 year ago - /u/Robert_GSG - Direct link
  1. As a prelude to Rogue Core, it's the intention for it to hopefully get you pumped for Rogue Core, while at the same time to be a worthy season on its own. Since, well, we love DRG, while also wanting to make new games after 7 years of constant work on DRG.
  2. This seems like more of a statement of your own than a question, but I'll try. We're excited about the games we make. And when making a new game that literally ties into DRG, it would seem odd to us not to make mention of it in DRG.
  3. Doubtful. The current plan is for Season 5 on its own to be completely independent of Rogue Core, apart from sharing a common theme. As development continues, that may change in some way if we find a cool way to do it, but we're not out to "force" players to play both games if they don't feel like it.
  4. A lot of assumption on your part here, which seems to be a running theme in most of your post. Doubt I can give you an answer here that will satisfy you, I can only say that our intent remains the same as always: To make something we think is cool, as well as fun to make and within our capabilities. Whether you agree with those decisions or not is your choice.

You don't put a number by your final question, but I assume that counts too, so:

Our intent here is to kick off a new season with a bang, and to tie it into the larger narrative of DRG as a franchise rather than as the single game it's been so far. As for open development, it means what it says: We've long wanted to return to the more open style of development we did back the in the Early Access days of DRG, and this is one way to get some of that back. And we're quite excited about that.