[2022] 2022 Hearthstone Masters Tour Vashj'ir | Day 2 | Hearthstone Dev Tracker

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945s	like there's no shot no shot that he
947s	just bm well played me when he's
949s	actually about to win through something
950s	incredibly scammy right now that was
952s	just an incredibly diplomatic and
954s	well-mannered conceit from your opponent
957s	and habu
958s	we can break the news to you right now
960s	my friend
964s	[Music]
969s	i'm going to call it too soon but yeah
971s	there we go that's the big moment there
973s	for hubbu gaboo i can't believe you're
975s	still counting
977s	he comes back takes the victory
984s	that is why we do this that is why we
988s	play this game
993s	welcome everyone it is masters tour
995s	vashir it is day two i am sottle and
998s	that is gia and we are essentially at
1001s	the start of a brand new competitive
1003s	season we just hit the summer
1004s	championships we're now starting a
1005s	masters tour cycle all over again we
1008s	have one day of action under our belts
1010s	and about eugeo but i'm ready to get
1012s	started with a second
1014s	very much so the same here subtle last
1017s	season it was around 15 16 17 wins in
1020s	swiss that was the sweet spot to try and
1023s	secure yourself a ticket through to the
1025s	seasonal championship this time i am not
1028s	quite so sure if it'll be the same but
1030s	we already have a certain list of people
1032s	that are looking like front runners
1034s	since we are halfway through the swiss
1037s	yeah and of course if you are unfamiliar
1039s	with the masters tour system if you're
1042s	tuning in going what on earth is a
1044s	masters tour even then this is a
1046s	collection an open qualified tournament
1048s	where you know around 400 players will
1050s	end up qualifying to giving themselves
1053s	shots to not only at a big prize pool
1054s	but also having the opportunity to go
1057s	through two things like seasonal
1059s	championships to things like the world
1060s	championship later in the year uh that's
1063s	been a big theme of this year of
1065s	competitive season is that the esports
1067s	team really wanted to open up the route
1069s	to the world championship and i think so
1071s	far based on the first half of the year
1073s	we've had so far it's been a big success
1075s	yes i definitely think that a lot of
1077s	players who don't necessarily have the
1079s	chance to get a championship win are
1082s	still very much deserving and through
1083s	their consistency have managed to
1085s	qualify through to seasonals and thus
1087s	book themselves a ticket to worlds dead
1090s	draw of course being the poster boy of
1092s	those types of players and we are going
1094s	to get to see what other set of players
1097s	are going to join our world's
1099s	competitors either through the um swiss
1102s	wins total system or just winning a
1105s	master's tour all together and we are as
1108s	i mentioned already halfway through the
1110s	swiss here on day two we're gonna play
1112s	through round five through round eight
1114s	to see who is going to get closer to
1116s	that first place prize of fourteen
1118s	thousand dollars
1119s	yeah and this is obviously what is on
1120s	the line just for this event for masters
1122s	tour bashir
1124s	in particular but what it means as we're
1126s	talking about is much more far-reaching
1129s	in terms of qualifying points for
1130s	seasonal championships how that feeds
1132s	into the world championship later in the
1134s	year i don't know about eugene i think
1136s	you know like myself we've kind of been
1137s	in battlegrounds mode it feels like for
1139s	a little while leading up to this and
1141s	then as we got back to constructed with
1143s	this event and obviously with the
1144s	expansion on the horizon it suddenly
1146s	became apparent to me just how many big
1149s	constructed events there are still left
1151s	to do in the second half of the year and
1153s	it made me really excited to get things
1156s	started but we can have a quick recap of
1158s	some of the action that we saw yesterday
1159s	and yeah since i had no internet for
1161s	this first round why don't you kick us
1163s	off with what happened yeah that's right
1164s	we got to see donkey versus
1166s	mcgranderface and donkey they're uh sort
1168s	of famous in the hearthstone scene for
1171s	different reasons than most other
1173s	competitors he had they have a website
1175s	where most people if not every single
1178s	hearthstone competitor gets their data
1180s	from and he's sorry they've used that
1184s	data to formulate their lineup as far as
1186s	i'm aware and i was really excited to
1188s	see if that approach pure numbers based
1190s	approach could get the job done uh
1193s	didn't quite make it versus interface
1195s	unfortunately but we also got to see
1197s	next jackpack versus tice ties stylin
1200s	with the purified chart top deck which
1203s	admittedly he had tons of time to find
1205s	against that control warrior you're
1207s	telling me while my internet was down i
1209s	missed out on a quest priest versus
1211s	control warrior match up cheer oh come
1214s	on i am heartbroken that i missed that
1216s	one uh then moving on luna came into
1219s	play she was uh a little bit upset i
1222s	think with some of the way these big
1223s	spell mage matches went down and then
1226s	moving on to dead draw versus gliscor
1229s	where we actually start to see i think
1231s	the debut of presto druid in the
1233s	tournament so far which uh is the less
1236s	represented of the two kind of slower um
1240s	druid anti-control druid strategies but
1243s	has been the more successful one so far
1245s	yeah it definitely seems like it and
1247s	then what we saw between habu and xiaoti
1250s	is sort of that
1253s	dichotomy of the two different
1254s	archetypes within certain classes there
1256s	uh boar priests versus wig priests boat
1258s	road versus deep road etc with habukabu
1261s	narrowly taking the victory shouty
1262s	himself saying that he's a bit upset
1265s	about misplaying and leaving himself
1267s	open to overdrawing due to scabs after
1270s	that we got casey versus raphael where
1272s	casey took a pretty quick victory
1275s	against the player that plays just as
1277s	fast as him that was pretty exciting
1280s	yeah i think that tends to happen in
1281s	some offstream games for sure um people
1284s	getting dragged up to casey's speed but
1285s	then i was really interested in these
1287s	last couple of series that we saw uh fat
1289s	cat versus nemu was a really interesting
1291s	one uh fat cat i think looked a little
1293s	bit shaky on camera but they are now top
1296s	of the standings at 4-0 and then
1298s	rounding things off with uh mighty of
1300s	course last call qualifier for the apac
1303s	region
1304s	just not having enough with the the
1306s	hunter letting them down a little bit
1307s	but we can now see exactly what all that
1310s	means and as i just alluded to there is
1312s	a very fat cat sitting pretty at the top
1315s	of the standings as they always should
1318s	be
1318s	yep sure that one makes you happy so
1321s	what makes me happy is the strong apec
1323s	representation here we have give please
1325s	and alexander who are veterans of the
1329s	grand master scene we also have sinnah
1331s	who i believe has quite a few master
1334s	stores under their belt already another
1336s	apac player coming in clutch there but
1338s	of course there's tons of names to watch
1341s	out for as well that we're familiar with
1343s	habukabu recent summer championship
1345s	winner vk melody i think is also a
1348s	veteran of the masters tour scene by
1351s	this point as well as yu ying and shuemu
1354s	um our xian representatives always
1356s	with the strong performances in the
1358s	masters tour system
1360s	i i love it gia day two round five like
1363s	this is peak gear on the hope train oh
1366s	this is gonna be the one apac is doing
1368s	well this is gonna be the event we're
1370s	gonna get it done finally smash cut to
1372s	day three oh it's all over there's zero
1374s	apac representation in top eight we're
1377s	cooked again i'm sure it's a tale as old
1379s	as time at this point here
1381s	although tamu's in there he's made two
1384s	masters tour finals so far if anyone can
1386s	do it it's him all right that is fair i
1390s	suppose but i think if there is one
1392s	thing to pick out that does always seem
1393s	to be the case it is that strong china
1396s	representation in that top 16 currently
1399s	and seemingly in that top 16 when we get
1402s	to the end of the event as well they
1403s	really are starting to make a huge name
1405s	for themselves uh in these events but we
1408s	are now going to move on to what our
1410s	featured match is going to be for round
1413s	number five and it is going to be hi i'm
1415s	jozo yes that is a uppercase i not a
1418s	lowercase l we have verified it's not
1420s	hill jozo it's hi i'm jose uh going up
1423s	against mr lover lover on the other side
1426s	what if the small l in mr level up is
1429s	actually a capital i as well
1432s	we've just been saying it wrong this
1434s	whole time
1436s	oh god oh no hold on control f
1440s	no it's fine i've verified it is an l
1442s	we're okay okay level
1445s	okay um moving on to the lineup and
1447s	technical side of things we have i am
1450s	jose with a pretty interesting lineup
1453s	with a blend of some aggressive decks as
1455s	well as the big spell mage in there i
1458s	can definitely see this as just mage and
1460s	shaman being auto brings for hayam jozo
1463s	because those are just pretty strong
1465s	power level decks overall and then he's
1467s	added his own flavor with this matte
1468s	paladin and here and then the choice of
1472s	jackpot rogue to round out the lineup
1475s	i think this is probably a good uh point
1476s	to just talk more top down about line up
1479s	distribution and decks in the tournament
1480s	how they've performed so far um as a
1483s	verified member of team smart person geo
1485s	obviously we got a lot of things right
1487s	uh this tournament um we were both on
1490s	the presto train based on day one
1491s	results that does seem to be the
1492s	stronger of the decks um but perhaps a
1495s	surprise one of the strongest decks in
1497s	the tournament right now is boat rogue
1500s	based on win percentage on day one which
1502s	certainly you know we are sometimes
1504s	guilty of this we see what we see on a
1506s	small sample size of games on stream and
1507s	we build our narratives around that but
1509s	seemingly off stream rogue has been
1511s	absolutely farming in some of these
1513s	situations what do you make of that
1516s	i think is pretty interesting because i
1518s	thought that boat rogue would um suffer
1520s	a bit from the inclusion of renathal in
1522s	the meta the boat rogue in particular
1524s	that includes mr smite and relies on
1527s	these tools for reach i feel that wicked
1529s	stab also doesn't necessarily have as
1531s	much impact in a meta where a lot of
1534s	heroes start at 40 health but
1536s	definitely is a deck that i feel maybe
1539s	people undervalued after one day of
1541s	testing in the renaissance saying oh it
1543s	just never gets there but maybe people
1546s	were just not necessarily
1548s	adapting yet to how to play boat rogue
1550s	against these decks that have a bit less
1553s	of a consistent draw but more health to
1555s	work with we do take a look at hiyam
1558s	jozo's control murloc shaman to start
1561s	with
1562s	and it has
1564s	nothing too out of the ordinary here
1566s	a couple tech spots that you might find
1568s	are whether people run bloodlust or not
1570s	but he's gone with the pretty standard
1572s	version without that bloodlust
1574s	yeah i think so and i think this deck is
1576s	a very interesting addition to a lot of
1579s	lineups it's doing relatively well
1581s	overall in the tournament as well decent
1583s	win rate massive ban rate which is
1585s	surprising as well control charman is
1587s	actually the most banned deck in the
1589s	tournament based on day one which is
1591s	pretty incredible but we will now move
1593s	on to curse warlock which is a deck i'm
1595s	very happy to see it's a deck that i
1597s	don't necessarily have a fully fleshed
1599s	opinion on um in its spot in this meta
1602s	right now um i am however interested
1605s	that we are looking at a 30-card version
1607s	of it here whereas i
1609s	it seems to me that most people have
1616s	by then not being on the right hand side
1618s	yeah okay in which case i take it back
1620s	because i do think this has been the
1622s	second deck that people have gone to
1624s	after druid which totally makes sense i
1626s	think that should be a 40 deck
1627s	absolutely um if you are playing the
1630s	prestol version if you're playing the
1631s	alignment version we can debate about it
1632s	but i feel like people have jumped to
1634s	this one really quickly and assumed that
1636s	this one is better with 40 cards as well
1637s	and i'm not yet a convinced that it's a
1640s	good deck regardless and be convinced
1642s	that it's made better via the 10 extra
1644s	health and 10 extra cards yeah i'm not a
1647s	big fan of warlock but i will concede
1649s	that there are so many different tech
1651s	choices that you can add to the deck
1653s	that maybe there exists a 4d card
1655s	version that will be up to par with the
1657s	rest of the meta but what we're seeing
1659s	here from mr lavalava i think is not
1661s	teched for aggressive decks he has the
1664s	demon seat in there which is exclusively
1666s	for the mirror in my opinion and then
1668s	the double emulates which are for slow
1670s	match ups you definitely don't get much
1672s	value out of that at all versus the
1674s	likes of rogue and so on uh there's the
1677s	one of restaurant viper in there which i
1680s	feel the only value for a viper in this
1682s	matter or like impactful value is
1684s	against um decks that have carol most
1687s	commonly controlled paladin comes to
1689s	mind but we do see that there is
1691s	carryall in the paladin from jozo as
1695s	well uh paladin though in general i feel
1697s	has always been at least the mech
1699s	version a tough matchup for warlock
1701s	because they don't interact with divine
1703s	shield particularly well absolutely not
1705s	no i do think whenever there's some kind
1707s	of control warlock been hanging around
1709s	for really the last few meters the
1711s	aggressive paladins really had the best
1713s	chance against it um whether it was
1715s	hanlock whether it was d6 warlock or
1717s	whatever else and the various variants
1720s	of the aggressive paladins have
1722s	generally been of one of the best ways
1724s	to counteract it and i don't think that
1726s	is going to change anytime soon but we
1729s	will come to that if we need to it's
1731s	going to be warlock versus shaman to
1733s	kick this one off i'm sure lorinda will
1736s	be watching on eagerly as he is
1738s	currently jamming some games with this
1739s	shaman and not understanding the first
1742s	thing about how to play it it's very
1744s	simple you just play your cards and
1746s	spend your mana and good things happen
1748s	that is right drizzle keeps the gorlok
1751s	ravager without clown fish which is
1753s	already indicative of the fact that he
1755s	thinks this matchup is quite slow and
1757s	who am i to say without clownfish he's
1759s	found it that is a pretty solid curve to
1761s	start off with whereas mr lavalava held
1764s	on to one null and tossed away quest
1766s	and the rune mithral rod which are two
1768s	cards that you would definitely keep in
1770s	other matchups which goes to show that
1772s	this 40 card warlock when it's you know
1775s	when it's given time it is a swiss army
1777s	knife you have the tools and the text
1778s	for many many different things but does
1780s	that hurt your consistency against any
1783s	one particular match-up we will find out
1786s	throwing away quest and rod not my
1788s	warlock gear not not in my name
1793s	yeah absolutely right i think your you
1794s	know point about the quest being
1795s	exclusively for a couple of matchups
1797s	mirror in particular is spot on um it's
1800s	it's a little bit unusual to see a quest
1802s	that is commonly thrown away it's
1803s	normally the other way where ninety
1805s	percent of matchups you keep it and then
1807s	the odd one you throw it away but i do
1808s	certainly think with this deck it is
1810s	largely in reverse
1812s	it's just weird to think about it that
1814s	way because you when you play the quest
1816s	it always starts in your mulligan and
1818s	that was generally seen as a positive
1820s	but when you are most often throwing
1822s	away the quest in most matchups then you
1824s	even say that you're making your muller
1826s	gun worse on average on top of making
1828s	your average draw worse because you're
1830s	running 40 cards so to bring warlock
1833s	still with all of those sort of
1835s	downsides in mind you really have to
1836s	have a strong conviction in the overall
1838s	power level of the deck which to a
1840s	certain extent does get higher due to
1843s	more health because generally with more
1845s	time you can stack curses better you can
1848s	have more health to play with for the
1849s	life taps but so far i'm not sure if
1852s	it's been working out in practice
1856s	it looks like jozo holding on to the
1859s	discount here choosing not to tempo out
1861s	a 2-3 amalgam here giving him more
1863s	flexibility for the following term
1864s	potentially looking at that mutinous to
1866s	preserve a discount on that which i do
1869s	like a lot in this situation
1872s	right i think mutanus is one of the
1874s	tools that jose has to try and catch mr
1877s	lavalava off guard because i do think
1879s	the match-up comes out in favor of the
1882s	warlock on average the shaman doesn't
1884s	have access to very much burst they can
1886s	get the board early on but as soon as
1888s	six mana is available to the warlock
1890s	they can blow up almost anything there's
1893s	not much value for the shaman to have
1894s	off of their snowfall guardian because
1897s	warlock doesn't tend to get very wide on
1899s	board in the first place and then the
1901s	shaman can run out of time against the
1903s	curses maybe an early brukhan can help
1905s	um stave that off but in most situations
1908s	i think mr lavalava should be feeling
1910s	comfortable still
1912s	and i love how mr lavalova has brought
1914s	an extra feature to the broadcast you
1916s	know sometimes when players look to one
1917s	side you're like oh they're probably
1918s	looking at deck lists or something on
1919s	another monitor we can literally verify
1922s	there's a very clear reflection in the
1924s	background looking at decklist at that
1926s	position so thanks this is great tech
1928s	and i enjoy it i just hope that he is uh
1931s	fully aware that we can see everything
1933s	that he's looking at during this
1937s	well i don't see anything that's
1939s	suspicious there like of course players
1941s	are allowed to use deck trackers and
1943s	look at the decklist of their opponents
1945s	throughout these online tournaments
1948s	move along sir
1952s	jose having to consume the discount in a
1955s	slightly different way than he may have
1956s	wanted to but i think firemancer vlogger
1958s	was just way too good on that board
1960s	state right to be going with anything
1962s	else
1962s	um so he's going to reset still has the
1964s	second clownfish in hand to be able to
1966s	follow this up so he has grasped control
1968s	of the board early but he's going to
1970s	have to do this what probably three or
1972s	four times over the course of the game
1974s	to deal with the amount of removal that
1975s	warlock can usually throw at you right
1977s	and from this point on six mana now
1979s	available to lavalava with the coin you
1981s	can start with abyssal wave and then
1984s	follow with customer which i do prefer
1986s	that order because there are certain
1988s	minions that don't necessarily die to
1991s	the four damage break point but customer
1993s	can deal way more than that and also be
1995s	a board presence where playing at this
1997s	turn straight up it would die to the
2000s	death rattle from cookie weapons so i
2002s	don't think it's worth it uh lava lava
2005s	after his custom return just needs to
2006s	bridge the gap towards gigafin and um
2009s	from there should be smooth sailing uh
2011s	he might not have time to weave in taps
2013s	which is the one problem uh but for jozo
2015s	here it's definitely on him to build a
2017s	board state that is more resilient here
2020s	double caverns clogging the hand doesn't
2022s	feel great probably have to get one of
2024s	those played out but it means that the
2025s	rest of the mana probably just spent on
2028s	schooling unless he wants to remove a
2029s	one damage curse which doesn't feel
2031s	worth it yeah agreed
2038s	doesn't have to worry about being on ten
2040s	cards here in fact it's a benefit to him
2043s	uh because lava lava cannot add curses
2045s	to hand right now um that first abyssal
2047s	curse is on its second and final stage
2050s	uh next turn so it will expire before
2053s	jose gets his first card draw
2056s	and i do think while poor cavern is kind
2058s	of the perfect response to this
2060s	situation it's that kind of trickled out
2063s	turn-by-turn board just getting
2065s	incrementally more powerful
2067s	it's exactly what love a lover isn't
2069s	really equipped to deal with right if
2071s	you just went wide then again
2072s	immediately that's the kind of stuff
2074s	that warlock would be able to gobble up
2075s	in a variety of methods and but this one
2078s	by one stag after stag turn after turn
2081s	maybe with one or two minions played
2082s	alongside it i think we'll end up
2084s	probably being a little bit more
2085s	effective
2087s	i would agree and this is where it
2089s	starts to get a bit awkward for the
2090s	warlock um
2092s	in the situations where they've had to
2094s	go for a big board clear but it wasn't
2095s	specifically dreadlich tamzin they often
2098s	run out of resources that are flexible
2100s	enough to deal with many different
2102s	shapes of board so lava lava might be
2104s	stuck playing one or two cards max
2107s	per turn here and uh just by going okani
2111s	concedes that he will probably be taking
2113s	some face damage from that stag but um
2116s	he has a lot of health to work with
2118s	still and knows that there's not much
2120s	burst available to shaman so should
2122s	still be fine
2123s	um very likely i think that lavalava
2125s	countered spell here because he knows
2127s	there's three one mana piranha
2128s	absolutely it just feels like a terrible
2130s	minion counter
2131s	yeah and either way you know you're kind
2134s	of cooked right because fish fish fish
2136s	is the magic six that you would need to
2137s	deal with this anyway so if like if if
2139s	jozo really wanted to cast some spell
2141s	this term for three or less he could do
2142s	it anyway by clearing the okani and i
2144s	think that probably
2146s	is the play anyway right clear this up
2148s	school teacher
2150s	seems fairly solid on this term
2153s	there's some consideration to getting
2155s	the clown fish down here so you can bank
2157s	that mutinous discount for turn eight
2159s	brand mutinous which seems like a pretty
2162s	powerful way i do like that you starve
2164s	level of resources so um foregoing
2167s	school teacher over triple fish here i
2170s	do agree with
2178s	the quest
2180s	welcome back
2183s	it might just get played here because
2185s	lava lava doesn't have anything else to
2187s	spend his mana on after the customer
2189s	which i think needs to come down here
2191s	agrees unless you just want to randomly
2194s	heal for a little bit like preemptively
2196s	but i don't think that's really worth it
2201s	okay
2202s	lavalava literally saying here that the
2204s	quest has more value in his hand to
2206s	potentially buff another customer later
2209s	than it ever does getting any of its
2212s	stages done
2214s	all right here we go eats up cultists
2218s	minus one curse is always huge starfish
2220s	not a huge deal um i don't think lava
2223s	lava has too many good silence targets
2225s	given that he wouldn't build a board
2227s	that would let a snowfall guardian on
2229s	the other side get big enough anyway but
2231s	it still stats on the mutinous uh the
2233s	big headliner here though is uh gigafin
2236s	dodged and now the reverse chomp is
2238s	happening
2240s	there is one frostbite currently in hand
2243s	but outside of that everything looking
2245s	somewhat irritating might need some help
2247s	from the school teacher here
2249s	all right that'll do it
2251s	yeah it's a clear on the main body of
2253s	gigafin if he takes either portal or
2256s	bioluminescence actually alongside
2258s	frostbite so the question is which one
2260s	is better um
2263s	even with portal and another minion on
2266s	board i think he still has board space
2268s	to get all of the chomped minions back
2273s	the bio does make for ongoing threat
2276s	later on
2278s	take me pick me
2279s	yeah i took the portal this does make
2281s	sense
2284s	only
2285s	three minions i believe being spat out
2287s	right to your point so i think ford
2288s	space is absolutely fine yep there we go
2291s	unfortunately he does get the nerfed
2292s	version of the mutanus back of course
2294s	but
2295s	uh you'll take what you can get in this
2296s	position
2298s	mr lavalava really in need of another
2302s	abyssal wave or another
2305s	customer you even take a tamzin in this
2308s	spot but doesn't find it looks like he's
2310s	going to dig with bran's school teacher
2313s	here given that all or his first spell
2316s	is going to be under the aura of
2318s	frostbite thinks it's too inefficient
2320s	anybody
2323s	i think more and more as time goes on uh
2325s	jose will be slightly frustrated with
2327s	his chomp targets as he very quickly
2330s	sees a
2331s	gigafin a bran and a schoolteacher all
2333s	being played from the same hand that he
2335s	threw a mutinous into
2337s	right
2338s	although these are not great options um
2342s	lava lava doesn't hit drain sole touch
2344s	or grimoire of sacrifice would have been
2346s	a huge one in this situation
2350s	take me pick
2353s	me gonna end up buffing the
2357s	appendage of gigafin a bit more did he
2358s	take dry the mount on the first
2367s	lots of board tension here
2370s	but thankfully for mr mr lavalava he did
2373s	see the outcome from schoolteacher so he
2375s	knows there's not very much burst um
2378s	available to jose here the question is
2380s	whether lavalava can stabilize and heal
2383s	enough after he takes a hefty amount of
2385s	face damage here and he does have drain
2387s	sole touch so still looking okay for
2390s	joseph though resources starting to run
2392s	dry he can at least cycle with the wind
2394s	chill from his sleep breaker and still
2396s	have the mana to play command of
2397s	neptulon so i think that's decent unless
2400s	he'd rather go in absolutely okani and
2402s	try and protect the board that he builds
2404s	this turn which now that i'm talking
2405s	about it sounds pretty good
2408s	yeah you could also you don't
2409s	necessarily
2410s	have to nepchill on it's so good
2412s	immediately onto the board but if you
2414s	think the game's gonna go long it might
2416s	even be another wild poor turn right
2418s	just to be able to milk that value over
2420s	the next few turns
2421s	uh it is also i suppose the most mana
2424s	efficient play that you can make this
2425s	turn although you wouldn't be getting
2426s	the windchill in alongside it i think
2427s	this is actually a really tricky turn to
2430s	play there's lots of options available
2431s	here it really is i think joseo is
2434s	saying here that the game probably
2436s	doesn't go on much longer and i agree
2437s	with the idea of
2439s	weaving in the okani while the frostbite
2441s	aura is intact here it's like two layers
2443s	of protection on this board
2449s	i guess to protect again second customer
2454s	potentially but he doesn't know there's
2456s	a nagaling in hand so that doesn't make
2458s	a lot of sense now that i look at it
2465s	level lavalava now knows that it is mini
2467s	encounter and jozo immediately shows
2470s	some disdain after seeing that spell so
2472s	i think he was maybe hoping to mind game
2475s	lava lava into starting a minion and
2478s	wasting the nagaling
2490s	i'm not sure if the vmware just
2492s	overthinking it and you just roped out
2493s	and it auto-picked and that's what the
2495s	frustrated look on his face was at the
2497s	end like there's a whole variety of
2498s	things that could have happened
2500s	could very well be
2502s	doing so to clear up the school teacher
2506s	and double trades on the stag
2509s	i think it's fine for lavalava to leave
2511s	up okani knowing it's a minion counter
2513s	like this dread and mount nagalang is
2515s	not doing very much anyway
2519s	in which case do you want to just break
2521s	it now
2523s	yeah
2524s	yeah
2525s	batman spent
2527s	all things considered still a pretty
2529s	successful turn for jose because look at
2531s	how many cards he's forced mr lavalava
2534s	to use and uh even though
2538s	in theory the warlock is supposed to get
2540s	a greater advantage as time goes on mr
2543s	lavalava hasn't found his dreadlitch
2544s	tamzin which meant his resources are all
2547s	very costly the taps getting him ever
2550s	closer to potentially dying
2554s	weird timing on the makaur here
2558s	does now reset it with the amalgam
2562s	uh smell slugger
2564s	yeah looks great
2567s	um he might not play at this turn
2568s	because
2569s	like you said last turn the wild paw
2571s	cavern still might get value from this
2574s	spot onwards and just getting it down
2576s	earlier of course is
2579s	generally better
2582s	primordial protector is also a
2583s	consideration just to actually cycle
2586s	more so than get that minion summon
2589s	it draws
2591s	another what command of neptulon at this
2593s	point i think so yeah
2596s	and that's all like there's also a
2597s	pretty reasonable card to throw into the
2599s	macaw right if you want to reset the
2601s	battlecry with that and you can then
2602s	draw another card with the macaw uh
2605s	however i would argue if you wanted to
2606s	do that you could have done that at the
2607s	beginning of the term with the sleep
2609s	breaker anyway
2610s	um so he might be looking for something
2612s	a little bit uh juicier with them before
2616s	anybody very sad to see the times in
2618s	rome instead of dreadlocks times in here
2620s	and the rome after mr lava lava has used
2623s	drain soul and touch of the nazism yeah
2626s	you feel great gets touched from the
2628s	nagaling so manages to
2630s	clear a little bit of the board and get
2632s	that little bit of healing i think this
2634s	is all about staying alive as long as
2636s	possible until he can find his hero card
2638s	but it's pretty tough to do so with a 20
2641s	card deck still after so many turns have
2644s	gone on
2646s	oh this hand got weird
2649s	it did amalgam mccall
2651s	yep
2657s	nice bad not bad thanks buddy
2663s	i think jose's kind of identifying here
2665s	that he just needs to play a board every
2668s	single turn mr lavalava has shown that
2671s	he's struggled uh clearing everything so
2674s	even though the macaws aren't like ideal
2676s	tempo and he doesn't get to choose what
2678s	the heck these amalgams give him it's
2680s	just stuff and stuff helps
2687s	problem with snogger
2688s	slogger is that he cannot play
2690s	uh local or next turn because of the
2693s	overload
2695s	unless somehow lava lava puts him down
2697s	to 15.
2699s	yeah it was reasonable until you were
2702s	playing a six attack lifesteal minion
2704s	that turn right because all it would
2706s	take from that point was like one curse
2707s	to come out and then you maybe would
2709s	have been in the position it was
2710s	playable um but the combination of the
2712s	overload and the six healing that came
2714s	from the slogger yeah probably not gonna
2715s	happen
2718s	oh
2719s	desperation for mr level lava here he
2723s	just cannot deal with this board he
2725s	still has a tap which if it were to find
2728s	red ledge tamson or entitled customer or
2731s	abyssal wave are all good outcomes
2740s	curse counter is just at two i think so
2742s	the cool is hardly doing anything either
2750s	it has to be the hail mary top
2763s	does that let him survive on board he
2766s	will heal off of the curse
2781s	okay so he's actually oh sorry the
2783s	cursed counter is on four my bad
2792s	yes with only 10 showing on board it's
2794s	certainly a play that keeps them alive
2795s	honestly like i still don't hate the tap
2797s	play anyway like instead of tamzin
2800s	coming down for example because i do
2801s	think mr lovalova has to dig in this
2803s	situation
2807s	from his perspective maybe
2809s	he's just hoping that the nagalang's got
2811s	random very low value cards and just
2814s	trying to play for board turn after turn
2817s	gets him
2818s	incrementally ahead over time but i'm
2820s	not even sure if that assessment is
2822s	correct with only a starfish in hand at
2824s	the moment
2825s	yeah as it happens in this incredibly
2827s	weird instance the tap would have killed
2830s	lover lover right because no i i believe
2832s	baba naga can go face i think it's just
2833s	deal three damage conditionless uh he
2836s	actually would have died to a one-off in
2837s	this position
2839s	as the tap gave him something good but
2841s	again we're talking about ranathal
2844s	warhawk the deck is not consistent
2862s	just seems
2864s	fine okay goes curse instead doesn't
2866s	want to take the four again
2876s	oh
2877s	no
2878s	one tap for tamzin
2881s	uh alive he can get the healing from
2884s	mistress of mixtures by putting it in
2886s	the abyssal wave pool okay
2889s	side effects
2891s	that's a curse for five in hand for jozo
2894s	as well
2900s	is this still going
2902s	rukan that's gotta close it out even
2904s	though it's not lethal right now the
2906s	armor means he never dies next turn and
2909s	he can just get those fireball hero
2911s	powers
2914s	yeah looking very very promising
2917s	[Music]
2919s	uh it's worth pointing out again not
2921s	calling this a mistake but just sort of
2923s	explaining the reality of what's
2924s	happening if jose had committed the baba
2927s	naga on the previous 10 and dealt the
2928s	three damage he would have had lethal on
2929s	this term with the top deck
2935s	i'm trying to figure out what
2937s	break point he would have been dead to
2939s	if he left the curse in hand and i think
2940s	it's only exactly three more curse cards
2942s	in hand for mr lavalava but jozo
2946s	definitely left no room to die from that
2949s	position so
2950s	definitely see where his head was at
2963s	yup
2968s	i'm not sure whether that was a pop off
2970s	or numenuma it was one of the two very
2972s	unclear on where on the line it stood uh
2975s	but yeah i think that will be an
2977s	excellent feeling first game a great
2979s	victory to get under the belt it's the
2981s	kind of game where
2982s	you know you you rock up the day starts
2984s	it's the first round of the day you sit
2986s	down to play some hearthstone and your
2988s	very first game is a marathon grind fest
2991s	like that
2992s	whether you win or lose that game is so
2994s	much of a mental boon or mental damage
2996s	for the rest of the game like it could
2998s	put you in such a good or bad mood for
2999s	the rest of the day and that stuff
3001s	matters like particularly if you have
3003s	easily shaken mental like i do but
3005s	certainly other players probably have a
3008s	better grasp on things but i do think
3010s	that that is a very very big and
3011s	important game for jozo to have one hand
3014s	for love a lover to have lost
3016s	yeah agreed not just from the nature of
3018s	the game which went too very long and
3020s	grindy as you said but also the context
3022s	of the matchups where i think on paper
3024s	the warlock should come out slightly
3026s	ahead here even with the deck that
3028s	doesn't necessarily find the tools it
3030s	always wants to have with the 40 cards
3032s	in there um i just think that the shaman
3034s	in general should give the warlock
3036s	enough time to stabilize but the fact
3038s	that jozo played the shaman in such a
3040s	way where he eat out value for many many
3043s	turns just all the way down to eight
3045s	cards left in deck and went toe to toe
3047s	still had two amalgam discovers in hand
3049s	after that is not something you are used
3052s	to seeing as warlock necessarily and it
3054s	means now that jose can move on to
3056s	either of his remaining decks gonna
3058s	start with the big spell mage which is
3061s	rocking a pelican diver hey
3064s	hey
3066s	pelicans yeah one pelican one finley uh
3069s	making its way into this one uh big
3071s	spell mage middling performance so far
3073s	in the tournament 51 win rate marginally
3076s	better than naga priest overall and
3079s	performing at a similar level to like
3081s	fell demon hunter and prestor druid at
3083s	the moment so certainly like a middle of
3084s	the pack bring based on day one
3086s	performance they're probably not too
3088s	many people massively upset that they've
3090s	brought this deck but it's not setting
3091s	the tournament on fire right now either
3094s	um and i think we've kind of seen that
3096s	reflected in the matchups we've watched
3097s	right very feast or famine style deck
3099s	from what we have seen i think from what
3101s	our experience of just playing the deck
3102s	on ladder tells us as well
3104s	yeah that's right this is a deck that if
3106s	it doesn't hit one of its ways to cheat
3109s	out an early rune or drake fire amulet
3112s	it just seems terrible but you're
3114s	relying on the fact that there's enough
3116s	effects to cheat it out that you should
3118s	find one relatively early on average
3120s	whether it be the barbaric sorceress or
3123s	the uh belinda of course but we do have
3126s	mr lavalova switching away from his
3128s	warlock now to the fell demon hunter
3130s	which is a matchup that we haven't
3132s	really seen versus mage um in recent
3135s	memory i do think that the demon hunter
3138s	can struggle actually because of the
3141s	armor gained from deep water evoker and
3143s	the fact that if you do hit
3146s	a barbaric sorceress it always gets a
3149s	cheap spell
3151s	that is very true it is one of the decks
3153s	where it's very difficult to keep your
3155s	hand completely free of spells at all
3157s	time um we've seen it played against
3159s	rogue for example which is very easy to
3161s	dump shadow steps and coins same thing
3163s	with druid where it innovates you can
3165s	just throw out whenever um dredge for
3167s	the zero mana dredge you can throw out
3168s	whenever yeah there's a good chance that
3170s	you at the very least have a couple of
3171s	like two mana spells that get caught in
3173s	your hand and just aren't really
3174s	justifiable um to be played
3177s	on particular turns leading up to those
3180s	big swap terms that are available for
3181s	the mage however i do think overall
3185s	demon hunter just doing demon hunter
3187s	things is still good enough more often
3189s	than not to get it over the line in this
3191s	matchup
3192s	big spell mage does have some early
3194s	curve stuff that it can do um but
3196s	outside of that i do think it can just
3199s	suffer to the early board the persistent
3201s	damage the lack of clearing potential
3203s	sometimes that is available but maybe
3206s	who knows that one-off pelican is going
3207s	to come in clutch
3208s	oh can't wait to see it but it's
3211s	doubtful that it will enter the hand
3213s	with only three cards to work with in
3215s	the mulligan for jose and i assume the
3217s	snow flurry being kept here mailbox
3219s	dancer a bit contentious to keep if you
3222s	don't have the belinda already
3224s	guaranteed so i would potentially like
3226s	to see that thrown away mr lavalava on
3229s	his side gets rid of double metamorphin
3232s	without a cheap fell spell to guarantee
3235s	that activation yeah i do think there's
3237s	more things to look for
3239s	like
3240s	what both sides hello what what's going
3243s	on
3243s	one card mall into the pelican on one
3246s	the one-off pelican on one massive
3249s	zombie chow energy right now and then on
3251s	the other side mr lover lover just
3253s	throws away everything and gets back the
3255s	absolute dream curve on the other side
3258s	just the reactions of both players uh
3261s	were priceless in that situation
3265s	and you have dancing available to jose
3268s	if he wants
3271s	doesn't line up particularly well
3273s	against expected turn 2 plays from lava
3275s	lava which is chaos strike
3278s	or even fell barrage so i am kind of
3280s	looking at the amplified snow flurry
3282s	instead
3290s	as it happens against lover lover's
3292s	actual hand there is
3295s	very little that he can do to actually
3297s	seize board this term basically anything
3299s	he does will get gobbled up by this hand
3301s	that lover lover has but i do think i
3302s	agree with you i think snow flurry deals
3305s	with more situations a little bit better
3306s	especially because if it is this kind of
3309s	worst-case scenario situation right with
3311s	vanguard and some form of clearing on
3313s	the 2-3 you now have that zero mana hero
3316s	power banked for the following turn so
3318s	you can deal with the vanguard straight
3320s	up for zero and just spend the rest of
3322s	your mana on full tempo on the following
3324s	turn so i like this a lot
3326s	huge deal
3327s	kind of a tough decision for mr lavalava
3329s	whether he wanted to coin out hero power
3331s	here because it does make his following
3333s	turns potentially awkward he still has
3335s	chaos strike hero power for turn three
3337s	at worst can trade near need for greed
3339s	as well
3340s	so he really values getting those one
3342s	ones on line
3347s	where he guard off the top is huge
3348s	filling out that curve perfectly with
3350s	the zero mana hero power as i was
3352s	talking about but mr other lovers as
3354s	well two can play that game perfect fell
3358s	barrage off the top maintains a little
3360s	bit of board control for the foreseeable
3362s	future and he is gonna have to have at
3364s	least one more of those i would say one
3366s	of the next two cards in his deck has to
3368s	be beneficial to be able to keep him in
3370s	this he has chaos strike plus something
3372s	on the following turn and then his hand
3374s	actually unlocks to start ramping up the
3375s	damage
3377s	jose though the hands starting to get
3378s	clogged up by the big spells without the
3380s	effects to cheat them out no barbaric
3383s	sorceress no belinda and the grace age
3385s	pirate essentially unplayable until
3387s	after one of those big spells has been
3389s	activated so it looks like it's going to
3392s	be a couple turns of mailbox dancer ping
3394s	okay i was thinking he might weave in
3396s	the ping so that he could do that again
3398s	alongside another dancer but jose says
3401s	believe in the deck find a barbaric
3403s	sorceress by next turn
3411s	really weird turn here actually
3413s	yeah
3415s	you could start with the trade on need
3417s	for greed
3423s	i mean you can also just take your coin
3426s	and play a five this term as well right
3428s	if you really wanted to you'd think
3430s	might be what he's ending up with
3432s	because i think the four mana plays are
3433s	just all too weird right if you go
3435s	multi-strike then the rest of your
3437s	turn's a little bit awkward you're not
3438s	really spending your mana efficiently
3439s	because you don't want to play chaos
3441s	strike with that uh so i like this
3443s	option to just go straight for the five
3445s	right even though the mailbox dancers
3448s	weren't necessarily dead on board if mr
3450s	lavalava was to go for chaos strike it
3452s	would be weird not to hit a minion but
3454s	if he did hit a minion he would leave a
3456s	coin in his hand and then give jozo a
3459s	prime potential target for the sorceress
3461s	so i do like the line looking at it
3463s	again but jose now has hit a very
3465s	awkward spot where he can reroll with
3467s	finley but it removes the two coins in
3470s	hand
3474s	trade the amulet yeah
3480s	oh belinda okay
3482s	okay fine
3483s	very good in fact
3487s	do you take me for an ordinary mage
3497s	oh my god 9 10. and suddenly the entire
3499s	hand is unlocked by that right because
3502s	now five mana spells in hand grace h
3504s	para in hand that's the next two turns
3506s	potentially now locked up for jozo and
3509s	mr lovalova is gonna have to get on with
3510s	it here he needs to find
3512s	essentially two-turn lethal from this
3514s	point if he's gonna have any chance he
3516s	knows that there are huge dragons coming
3519s	the other way his weapon is not dread
3520s	prison glaive so the multi-strike into
3522s	belinda doesn't feel great here might as
3525s	well just send the weapon charge face
3527s	and hope that he somehow has lethal next
3530s	turn pray that the dragons don't have
3532s	taunt
3535s	ancient power
3539s	ancient
3540s	order manages to weave in a clear on
3542s	that dancer which gives him a coin which
3544s	could be crucial for his prospects of
3547s	killing from 14 here
3550s	oh the evoker that guaranteed finds the
3552s	other drake fire amulet
3557s	is it better though is it better two
3559s	dragons online or a rune which is
3562s	potentially lethal or ice barrier
3566s	yeah i think if you're playing a big
3568s	spell it is the drake fire amulet for me
3571s	just just potentially a big taunt locks
3573s	out the game in this position
3575s	let's choose to go with it deathwing
3577s	easy first choice okay
3580s	no torn the outs exist
3583s	he has to take this trade that makes me
3585s	want to close my eyes because he cannot
3588s	afford to let mr lavalava have any extra
3591s	damage two furys and chaostrike
3593s	represents eight but that is not 14 and
3597s	jose is going to take it
3607s	probably close one towards the end there
3609s	but jose goes to show belinda even later
3612s	than expected is still
3615s	a complete backbreaker as long as the
3618s	mage has had decent things to do in the
3620s	early game for most of which is a
3621s	pelican
3623s	yeah i mean that one mole into into
3626s	pelican was insane right because
3628s	otherwise
3628s	how much damage do you estimate that
3631s	nargon one would have ended up pushing
3633s	right if it wasn't able to be cleared
3634s	immediately by that pelican and then
3636s	suddenly what was he six damage off
3638s	lethal at the end of the game i think
3639s	that one three could have ended up doing
3641s	six over the course of the game very
3643s	much changed the equation if it wasn't
3645s	for that pelican being found so a really
3647s	really big deal um for jose overall and
3650s	of course the belinda just ends up being
3652s	absolutely game-winning as it's able to
3654s	set up that two-turn clock on the other
3656s	side i do really like the decision to
3658s	not be scared not go for the evoca i
3660s	think that was great recognition from
3662s	jozo he had the outs of being able to
3664s	find big taunts in that situation anyway
3666s	but most importantly
3667s	he set up a guaranteed two-term lethal
3670s	for himself which is
3672s	almost infinitely better of guaranteed
3674s	than guaranteeing you're just surviving
3676s	for one term because if he didn't say
3678s	arb lethal then he would have had to
3679s	have found another way to survive for
3680s	another turn after that anyway so i
3683s	think he recognized the lines at the end
3685s	very nicely does go up 2-0 in the series
3687s	but for me now i don't know if we saw
3690s	this early on when i was having internet
3691s	problems but for me mech paladin making
3693s	the stream debut for this tournament
3696s	yeah uh i did not get the chance to cast
3698s	it but i did think that we had some um
3701s	showings of this on a stream match
3704s	potentially uh this list with the
3706s	battlegrounds battlemaster in there also
3708s	a little bit greedier than greedier than
3710s	we're used to seeing but if you are
3712s	bringing mac paladin in the first place
3714s	i think you have a very hard target on
3717s	the likes of druid warlock uh
3720s	potentially warrior as well if you think
3722s	anyone is still going to bring warriors
3724s	so doubling down on that and just having
3727s	even more reach threatened does seem
3729s	like a good idea against mr lavalava's
3732s	lineup though i think the paladin
3734s	exclusively has a good matchup against
3736s	warlock and nothing else
3738s	yeah i think i would largely agree with
3739s	that assessment but i do think that is a
3742s	potentially really good matchup and
3744s	since this is conquest
3746s	that's really all that matters of course
3748s	you'd love to have three good matchups
3750s	and three chances of winning three sixty
3752s	percenters or whatever else but as long
3754s	as you have that one match up that you
3756s	can rely on that's often good enough in
3759s	conquest and it's uh the sign that your
3760s	lineup is doing what you want it to do
3762s	uh i will say jozo has maybe broken
3765s	serve a couple of times in terms of bad
3766s	matchups um in this uh in this series
3769s	already because even that like again i i
3771s	would say that the demon hunter is
3772s	favored in that matchup against mage and
3774s	that was a win that was found and then
3775s	even the opening game as well perhaps uh
3777s	not going the way we've expected it so
3779s	that now puts him in an incredibly
3781s	strong position in the series lover
3783s	lover is going to go for the third
3785s	unique deck of the series from his side
3787s	without having yet picked up a win and
3789s	uh it is gonna be the jackpot rogue
3791s	which based on day one stats is the
3793s	worst performing rogue decks of the
3795s	commonly played one uh best performing
3797s	is mine rogue believe it or not uh
3799s	followed by the boat followed by the
3801s	boat rogue and then uh this jackpot row
3803s	coming in in a solid uh but
3806s	underwhelming third place out of the
3808s	three rogue decks that are being played
3811s	pretty interesting to hear those stats
3813s	here it kind of
3815s	makes me theorize that reach is just a
3818s	lot more valuable in the meta than
3820s	people would have i guess expected going
3822s	into the tournament myself included
3824s	but certainly still a deck that is very
3828s	decent against the mech paladin it is
3830s	heavily dependent on how early you find
3832s	the knolls because the second you miss
3834s	out on a board clear and you let the
3836s	paladin stick a minion they can run away
3839s	with the board and just potentially
3841s	reapply divine shield with a bubble butt
3843s	and then that can be too much for the
3845s	rogue to deal with but if the row gets
3847s	ahead early conversely the paladin has
3849s	almost no comeback
3851s	mechanisms and the reason why i say it's
3853s	still fairly solid even though it's in
3855s	third place of the three rogue decks is
3856s	that it's still rocking 52 after day one
3859s	um rogue has actually just been a
3862s	surprisingly good bring across the board
3864s	uh bomb rogue pulling up 57 the boat
3868s	road going up 55 and thief road picking
3871s	up putting up 52 so rogue is kind of the
3873s	class of the tournament right now
3875s	surprisingly um of course i mean it was
3877s	guaranteed to be after lorinda kicked us
3880s	off by saying that he thought rogue
3881s	would struggle throughout the tournament
3882s	it was it was 100 gonna happen you gotta
3884s	stop talking if people hear that mine
3886s	rogue is the nuts it's just gonna be all
3888s	we see on ladder for the next few days i
3890s	do not want that
3892s	oh sorry i i misread wicked good stats
3894s	i'm actually completely wrong bomb rogue
3896s	has negative 33 win rate in this
3899s	tournament you absolutely should amazing
3901s	thank you thank you thank you
3903s	all right so mr lavalova does start off
3906s	with a knoll hand but gets
3908s	not great results from the jackpot here
3912s	against all odds like maybe that's good
3914s	against power i cannot really get that
3916s	through my head like do most of their
3919s	minions end up with odd attack or even
3920s	and then you have to think about the
3922s	buffs from prismatic uh jewel kit
3925s	but yeah the banana man the bus from
3928s	everything else that you can possibly
3929s	get yeah like who knows it is basically
3932s	functionally random how much attack each
3934s	minion is going to have when it comes
3936s	down
3939s	okay well all the one drops are reading
3941s	even right now she loves me not on the
3944s	against
3945s	right now
3950s	and there's two of them how did that
3952s	happen
3954s	we have plotted long enough
3956s	now
3959s	colossal probably
3962s	job's
3963s	done yeah i think horn always going to
3965s	be the pickup there
3968s	has a pretty clear finish line here of
3970s	just survive until whirlpool and that
3972s	should be
3973s	um all the board clear he will need from
3975s	that point
3977s	yes uh whether or not
3980s	it can get there though is
3982s	still a little bit questionable and i
3984s	think it will rely on just how much
3985s	those uh those against all odds are able
3987s	to clear up
3989s	erv is not gonna stop hitting for jozo
3992s	from this point
4002s	but even if it does die against all odds
4004s	reapplying this divine shield is so
4006s	backbreaking for mr lavalava it means
4008s	that three other minions would still
4010s	stick around and he would use his entire
4013s	turn to clear off eight damage
4016s	means horns not getting cast so one mana
4018s	colossal isn't going into the hand
4020s	you're not playing the class all that
4021s	turn
4022s	looks like a miserable turn he's going
4024s	to have to find something else to do
4025s	instead
4027s	starting with the cutlass trade it looks
4028s	like it's going to be horn over against
4030s	all odds but he does discount against
4032s	all odds so now there is oh man i bet
4035s	he's thinking why did it have to give me
4037s	a decision point here i was convinced it
4039s	was just horn
4040s	no no he's found the text here it turns
4042s	out if you change the mana cost of
4044s	against all odds to an even number it
4046s	actually kills all evens instead so now
4048s	he clears up the three two attack and
4050s	yeah secret touches actually less damage
4053s	cleared look quiet
4055s	don't let facts get in the way of a good
4058s	bit okay oh wow it was against all odds
4060s	all right fine
4063s	okay i don't think jose should be too
4065s	upset about that can continue piling
4067s	onto the board mr lavalava down to 20
4071s	health after this turn
4075s	and this horn kinda needs to find a
4077s	gigafin and even then the mothership
4079s	provides some insurance against that
4082s	that's right yeah
4085s	yeah even if gigafin were to come down
4087s	here leviathan pushed through the torn
4089s	attack face with the mechs that come off
4090s	the mother ship like you're still in a
4092s	pretty good position at that point
4096s	okay yep sure
4099s	marshall clears
4106s	i love the two click clockers i assume
4111s	okay he's gonna pop open the mother ship
4114s	instead
4115s	pray for odd attack
4118s	oh no that one shifts
4121s	the security automaton is going to deal
4123s	so much damage here
4129s	i get the usage though it does make
4130s	sense it gets the maximum juice out of
4133s	the immune effect right by attacking
4135s	into the powerful minion on board
4137s	anything in terms of getting overall
4138s	bore control it does make sense it's
4140s	high risk it's high variance because of
4141s	what you do exactly what you just saw
4142s	happen
4143s	um but certainly has a lot of upside
4147s	and it's even attack after all that to
4150s	add insult to injury
4153s	mr lavalava still has some miracle top
4156s	decks here prep comes top to mind uh to
4159s	make sure that the whirlpool can happen
4161s	already next turn
4167s	three good choices honestly ends up
4169s	taking the automaton again mooncatcher
4171s	was definitely pretty valid there with
4173s	one radar detector already in hand
4179s	does have blood in the water but it's
4181s	just a little bit short on stats to make
4184s	this really clean but oh my goodness
4185s	it's a hand full of spells with no prep
4189s	and no swift scale trickster that is a
4192s	disaster for mr lavalava
4199s	stash doesn't even replay nuptial
4201s	because it's neutral oh you're so right
4203s	that's so tilting i hate it
4208s	okay shroud can still find him swift
4210s	scale okay there it is
4212s	whirlpool playable job's done
4215s	very cleverly spotted the one out to get
4218s	whirlpool down this turn even though he
4220s	does overdraw the other trickster which
4222s	is painful it's just about surviving
4224s	this one turn and it has removed the
4227s	vast majority of jose's resources for
4229s	nobody top decks the vindicator to get
4232s	that second radar down for zero
4236s	what
4237s	fun
4239s	one single mag look at that
4243s	i mean you
4245s	play it and then play the other one i
4248s	guess oh my god that sucks so much
4250s	[Laughter]
4253s	one mac radar
4256s	i just can't get double righteous
4258s	instead sure yeah okay the the left hand
4260s	right just left i kind of forgot about
4261s	that it's it's still a significant
4263s	amount of power it doesn't make sense
4265s	this lets you know also that the other
4267s	radar might well get zero jaws at this
4271s	point no
4278s	all minions cleared and only on jose's
4280s	side so nothing removed from mr
4282s	lavalova's hand or deck
4287s	i want to protect against i don't even
4290s	know what at this point there's no mr
4292s	smite in the list for jose but there's
4294s	still the potential to top that carryall
4296s	and maybe get out of this one
4299s	uh one or two two okay nice
4303s	so obviously gets the sunken moon
4304s	catcher that he put there that one was
4306s	guaranteed and then the gorilla bot has
4307s	kind of slipped into the bottom of the
4309s	deck to replace the one mech that he
4311s	drew last time so he is able to pick up
4312s	two in that case which is very nice
4315s	i mean it's not but it's an improvement
4318s	on what
4318s	[Laughter]
4320s	our standards are very different now you
4322s	see
4323s	yes
4325s	that's another whirlpool
4330s	is not looking
4333s	too clean here like the one board state
4335s	where you're not happy to have a toe
4337s	don't you dare
4339s	you get kravito's name out of your mouth
4345s	okay okay i will relent a bit cravatoa
4348s	plus wicked stuff
4349s	seems decent but it's still a rather
4352s	whirlpool yeah absolutely
4356s	it's crazy he's just completely deleting
4359s	jojo's uh board and deck because of the
4362s	whirlpool
4365s	all right there's the juice
4368s	that's certainly what jose was going to
4369s	need to see from here find that
4370s	additional value very nice
4374s	goes on the board pushes damage five
4375s	turn clock from this point on
4377s	yeah jose is just so healthy and has the
4380s	immovable object against a deck that
4382s	doesn't have viper i think mr lavalava
4385s	potentially just dies to swings from the
4388s	weapon over enough time
4393s	see though gets way ahead on board has
4395s	his scabs as well
4404s	well 10 mana available
4408s	and mana to be spent
4410s	the mission is well how he wants to
4413s	curate the hero power i guess buffing
4416s	annoyatron well i don't know the bubble
4418s	bot gives everything to buying anyway
4420s	yeah
4423s	it just bends like if you want to play
4424s	around like actual damage break points
4426s	probably getting the automaton buffed
4428s	because it will then end up as the
4430s	biggest health minion overall although
4432s	he actually already has one buff on the
4434s	bubble bot right so actually landing on
4436s	that might end up better if you want to
4437s	just spread your
4439s	threats across the board then you do it
4441s	this way
4442s	um it really is kind of a feel thing and
4444s	it's one of the things that you either
4445s	love or hate against playing against
4446s	this kind of deck right is you have to
4448s	invent the card that you're going to
4450s	play around based on whatever like
4452s	randomly generated stuff they could have
4453s	found
4455s	oh the against the odds is so good here
4457s	even though it kills the spirit guide it
4458s	just removes two divine shield taunt
4460s	minions and then the two claws can take
4462s	down the bubble bud
4464s	yeah it's insane
4466s	look how filthy this crabatoa is gia
4468s	apologize so many options still can't
4472s	eat it i refuse to apologize
4476s	um
4478s	maybe removing his own taunt is a pretty
4481s	costly downside though because we do see
4483s	mr level of us down to 10 and that
4485s	weapon is not going anywhere on the
4486s	other side so he is going to go through
4488s	the taunt sleep hard way
4490s	and probably just use a blood in the
4492s	water to clear off the eight eight
4495s	oh the second yeah second wicked steps
4497s	clear up you want to yeah this will make
4498s	sense
4507s	slowly but surely
4509s	taking down the health total on this
4511s	carryall
4517s	oh no
4521s	jozo needs a very specific set of cards
4524s	to get himself out of this and i was
4526s	gonna say that would be mothership into
4528s	enemy but
4530s	that doesn't even work because he only
4531s	runs one mothership and it's too much
4533s	mana to spend
4535s	anything with ini that's good enough
4539s	not anymore minion counter
4542s	yeah minion counter is probably gonna
4545s	put an end to all of this speculation
4550s	but it was hard to find a win condition
4551s	here anyway i think battle mod yeah
4553s	exactly battlemaster picked up was
4555s	probably the last hope of trying to
4556s	stick something but i think that last
4558s	hope was the previous turn right you
4560s	make that big board with the divine
4562s	shields and the stats you hope something
4564s	lives and then you pick up the
4566s	battlemaster off the top the next turn
4567s	and you try and go from there and get
4568s	that two-term legal set up from there i
4570s	think once that last board was cleared
4573s	it was always going to be an absolute
4574s	struggle uh we kind of laughed at the
4576s	against all odds initially i did have a
4578s	significant impact on the game but
4580s	really it was that whirlpool and it has
4582s	to be said a really
4584s	clutch like high variance but really
4586s	well recognized play from lava lover to
4589s	go for the shroud to find the discount
4591s	to be able to play the whirlpool a turn
4593s	early because as soon as that first
4595s	whirlpool got played as soon as that
4596s	went in the pool then everything was
4599s	unlocked for lover lover to just be able
4600s	to continually delete cards over and
4603s	over again and honestly that's probably
4605s	a big part of why the radar detectors
4607s	ended up being so bad right because all
4609s	the mechs that were being cleared from
4610s	the board the second copy of them was
4612s	then also being deleted from the deck so
4614s	really really impactful outcome from
4616s	lover lover played for and got in his
4618s	scenario that's right usually i don't
4621s	see the rogue being favored because of
4622s	this type of pan out i feel like the
4624s	rogue has a decent chance to get ahead
4626s	on board with the knolls but certainly
4629s	there are a lot of outcomes from jackpot
4631s	that drastically changed the way a
4633s	jackpot rogue would approach the game
4635s	obviously the hyrule outcomes of drake
4638s	fire amulet and
4639s	miracle growth allow you to just get
4641s	ahead on board but the likes of
4643s	whirlpool then allow the rogue instead
4645s	to play as the control deck which is
4647s	exactly what happened here to the point
4649s	where even a timely carryall from jozo
4652s	didn't really have enough value to
4654s	outlast there so it's uh one win now to
4657s	mr lovalova and i think he still has one
4660s	decent matchup into the paladin with
4661s	that demon hunter but it is still gonna
4664s	be this warlock hanging over everyone's
4666s	heads here
4668s	yeah so we will see how lover lover
4670s	wants to go about it looks like he is
4672s	gonna go for the demon hunter coming up
4674s	next fell demon hunter again a deck that
4677s	probably has over performed a little bit
4679s	in my expectations um with the amount of
4683s	40 decks running around i thought it
4685s	might struggle a little bit more than it
4687s	did i thought it might be the one deck
4688s	that kind of just gets caught naturally
4690s	in the crossfire of things having 10
4692s	health extra but it's performed fine
4694s	again it's kind of in that same zone as
4697s	like naga priest big spell mage that we
4698s	were talking about before where it's not
4700s	setting the world on fire like rogue is
4702s	currently but it's not a deck that
4703s	you'll be too upset to be having in your
4705s	lineup up until this point and i do
4706s	think just the the speed of the curve
4709s	that's available does leave it in good
4711s	stead in a lot of these matchups but
4713s	if you are going to beat it this is the
4716s	exact sort of hand that i would like to
4718s	be looking at tons of divine shields
4721s	tons of buffs and minions to play on
4724s	every single turn in the early game
4725s	that's huge yeah that's an incredible
4728s	opening from jozo mr lavalava does have
4731s	the fact that he's gone first with a one
4733s	drop going in his favor but the rest of
4735s	the hand wasn't looking too great now
4736s	has the option for fossil fanatic next
4739s	turn i think he still has a pretty
4741s	decent just hero power to bump the click
4743s	clock or trade with his minion and then
4745s	equip the glaive so he has maximum
4747s	charges for the future
4750s	yeah little hidden player use your
4752s	attack first drop the glaive down make
4754s	sure you keep charges fairly standard
4756s	these days but i do think when the deck
4757s	first started coming out it was a little
4758s	thing like that that a lot of players
4760s	were missing uh but jozo here is just
4762s	going to keep marching on and this is
4763s	divine shield after divine shield after
4766s	divine shield at the moment you see the
4768s	shake of the head from lava lover i
4771s	think starting to realize this one is
4773s	slipping away very
4775s	very quickly
4777s	it is indeed unfortunately having to use
4780s	a charge of glaive just to remove a
4783s	shield feels terrible but there is not
4785s	much other option for mr lavalava
4787s	because the hand is so dry until that
4789s	curtrious but by the time he does get to
4792s	kirch's that's the most powerful board
4793s	swing available to demon hunter so if he
4795s	can just stabilize pick up multi-strike
4798s	being the huge one to
4800s	really get a lot of board clear value
4803s	from his attack then maybe it's still
4806s	doable
4811s	omiton to double down on the aggressive
4815s	start
4817s	doesn't necessarily fit the curve any
4819s	time soon
4820s	but uh i'm wondering if there's anything
4822s	else right well the two on the left like
4825s	either amalgam or gorilla bot have a
4827s	chance to right if you're going to say
4829s	i'm going to play bubble bot on four
4830s	then i want to play something on five
4832s	like amalgam or gorilla bot plus
4834s	something can end up being your five
4836s	including the thing that is discovered
4838s	off either of those cards so that
4840s	personally makes the most sense to me
4844s	fury is the
4845s	discounted card from sigil not
4847s	particularly useful in this spot
4853s	i do think a fury ends up getting used
4857s	but the fact that the seafloor protector
4860s	is being
4861s	uh
4862s	sorry seafloor savior is being protected
4864s	by these two taunts makes everything so
4866s	awkward because mr lavalava wants the
4869s	slither spear after as fellas played to
4871s	then trade off the
4874s	anoyatron but then he has no way to
4875s	remove the divine shield from the other
4877s	taunt so has to concede that it's only
4879s	one minion being cleared here either way
4884s	and it's just such a depressing game so
4886s	far for love i love it it's just manner
4888s	not being spent right your opponent is
4890s	curving out they're doing some of the
4891s	most powerful things that their deck can
4892s	possibly do and you're just floating one
4896s	or two mana every single turn and what
4897s	are you supposed to do in that situation
4899s	and this curve just keeps on hitting
4903s	from jozo does end up picking up the
4905s	amalgam uh which i think will give him
4907s	the best chance of curving out next turn
4908s	now as well
4910s	multi-strike
4911s	at least start something here going for
4914s	lava lover in terms of gripping the
4916s	board back maybe now the curtress is big
4918s	enough on the following turn to be able
4920s	to get some sort of a grip on this
4922s	it is a six four now so it can trade off
4924s	the bubble
4929s	and the righteous protector like there's
4931s	just options everywhere
4933s	and yeah because there's a righteous in
4935s	hand he doesn't even need to take the
4936s	anointing already has such a powerful
4939s	counter to the bats that righteous
4943s	protector yeah you can see mr lava
4945s	lava's reaction there and it's jose's
4948s	opposite reaction
4949s	the best a righteous protector has been
4951s	since tyrion left battlegrounds right
4954s	there
4956s	yeah i'm not gonna argue with that that
4958s	is pretty disgusting indeed mr lava
4961s	level with the zero cost fury can still
4963s	at least punch through to get to the
4965s	bubble butt but leaving two minions on
4967s	board there's a mother ship joining the
4969s	party next turn it's not looking great
4974s	yeah and then gorillapop plus something
4976s	to follow up afterwards as well but this
4978s	is just such a good potential trade for
4981s	this mothership although with the sheer
4983s	size of it it's still kind of a feels
4985s	bad trade going into this seven three on
4987s	the other side
4988s	it is but first world problems right i
4991s	think you still take the trade you just
4993s	have a giant board you know jace is not
4995s	coming next turn you're still resistant
4997s	to the lag with the sheer amount of
4999s	minions there and you get to push the
5000s	six district
5002s	yeah agreed
5004s	all you need is full power and then you
5005s	have lethal setup and four power is
5007s	found
5011s	hey the z lag can potentially stop
5014s	lethal at least
5015s	very likely to do so
5027s	ooh oh
5029s	not great not great
5033s	just more stats just
5035s	endlessly hitting the board here
5038s	navel mine is reach
5042s	frantically scrambling for some way to
5044s	kill it this turn i mean there are
5046s	tentacles on the board i suppose
5051s	i mean imagine that's the play that wins
5053s	in the series just jam a navel mind
5055s	leave all the stalks up watch mr lava
5058s	lava
5060s	scramble to find a way
5062s	oh he doesn't do it
5066s	with mine it would have worked
5068s	i actually
5072s	but completely unnecessary here just has
5074s	the goliath needs masterpiece for
5078s	a lot of damage next turn plus of course
5081s	this huge board that's already stuck
5089s	yeah any clutch out for lethal here can
5092s	get three hero powers a chaos strike
5095s	can't direct the fel barrage face
5097s	unfortunately
5104s	not getting that down to zero anytime
5106s	soon either
5110s	ah trading zlag feels so terrible but
5113s	there is no other option going to use
5115s	fel barrage to clear off two more
5116s	minions i assume weave in that
5118s	metamorphin
5120s	stay alive on board
5125s	all things considered a decent recovery
5128s	turn
5130s	let's have to go face i'm pretty sure it
5132s	does right i don't think there's a wing
5133s	condition if this goes into a minion
5134s	yeah it makes sense to me
5141s	and all of a sudden
5143s	borderline winnable
5145s	yeah a jstop deck does it
5150s	um
5151s	so between mothership and radar detector
5154s	obviously you can start with the radar
5155s	to see
5156s	are you just jam sneaked
5158s	through the boards
5160s	10 right five five rockets of two each
5162s	just clear the board up perfectly go
5164s	face with everything
5165s	true
5166s	that seems to make the most sense to me
5169s	okay
5176s	wow the speed
5182s	why was that the point you paused wait
5184s	what
5185s	trying to make her go face
5187s	yeah
5188s	just make sure click on face as many
5190s	times as possible oh
5193s	no
5194s	he's three damage off so close
5198s	but so far it's going to be the
5200s	predation on his own face
5202s	you can see the game and jozo goes up to
5204s	five and zero with a mech paladin lineup
5207s	that is some bravery right there
5211s	it is and as always lorinda has missed
5215s	the boat quite literally as he chose to
5217s	support mech paladin in the previous
5220s	tournament and dunk on boat rogue in
5222s	this tournament and of course the exact
5224s	opposite has ended up being the road to
5226s	take but a great performance from jozo
5228s	overall i think that lineup uh that in
5231s	this individual matchup that lineup
5233s	seemed to match up pretty well overall
5236s	he did kind of sneak out a couple of
5238s	minor unfavored matchups and maybe mr
5240s	lava lover from his side might even feel
5241s	like he had a favored series lined up
5244s	but clearly you know 5-0 that is running
5248s	against is running up against you know a
5250s	wide spread of matchups you would
5251s	presume and it's a very off-the-wall
5253s	lineup that is proving to perform pretty
5256s	well so far which is kind of what you
5257s	want to see when we come into these
5259s	shaken up masters tours with these uh
5261s	you know big meta events that seem to
5264s	happen with increasing regularity now
5266s	before these big master schools
5267s	now what else i want to see
5269s	a master's tour final at some point
5271s	between jozo and batajim palm we will
5273s	have unprecedented levels of dancing on
5276s	camera in hearthstone ah a girl can
5279s	dream indeed indeed well that is but our
5284s	introduction for the action that we have
5286s	for the day that is the beginning of
5287s	round five but i believe we still have a
5290s	good chunk of round five action still to
5293s	cover so we're gonna do a little caster
5295s	shuffle uh speaking of dancers and we'll
5297s	get someone else in to carry you through
5299s	the rest of round five we're gonna go
5301s	take a break but you should stay tuned
5303s	because we'll be right back with more
5305s	masters tour action
5307s	[Music]
5314s	[Music]
5319s	[Applause]
5320s	[Music]
5325s	in the darkest of seasons
5327s	where ruthless eyes gawk for horrific
5330s	reasons
5332s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
5336s	with such
5337s	ruthlessness
5339s	so deep and profound
5343s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
5351s	to uncover the truth
5353s	of murder most foul
5356s	the anima drifts across the floor
5359s	highlighting the creatures who walked
5362s	through my door
5364s	the motives are as black as night
5367s	avarice power revenge
5371s	and blight
5373s	we watch the hero
5376s	uncover the
5377s	clues that lead to the truth
5381s	behind this dark bruise
5385s	join us here with the grimm and in pious
5390s	choose your powers without heavenly bias
5394s	for at the end
5395s	they will burn in the fire
5399s	when it is known who slayed
5402s	denathrius
5403s	the sire
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5438s	[Music]
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5476s	foreign
5487s	[Music]
5502s	welcome back to around five of the
5504s	masters tour and we've got another whole
5507s	match for you i believe here and we've
5509s	got it of social and gear we brought in
5511s	our man derek to talk about some
5512s	hearthstone how's it been going this
5514s	weekend for you
5516s	been going great uh as subtle was
5517s	alluding to in the the previous series
5519s	it feels like we're really jumping into
5521s	the uh uh the second half of the year of
5523s	competitive hearthstone here with
5524s	masters tour this year we've had our
5526s	summer championships we've sent quite a
5528s	decent chunk of players through to the
5530s	world championships and now kicking off
5532s	the rest of the masters tours grand
5533s	masters last call coming up very shortly
5536s	as well and uh players have a uh a new
5539s	fire set underneath them in terms of
5541s	trying to uh compete at the highest
5543s	level of hearthstone and uh speaking of
5546s	two players who have competed pretty
5548s	consistently at the highest level of
5550s	hearthstone are yu ying and flix who
5554s	i think are probably two of the players
5555s	with the biggest disparity i want to say
5557s	in terms of the number of masters tours
5559s	they've played and i want to say the the
5561s	relative obscurity uh in terms of their
5565s	um you know their renown amongst our
5567s	hearthstone player base because i think
5568s	both these players are not especially
5570s	big household names but they have been
5572s	around the br around the block sorry in
5574s	the master store system absolutely yeah
5577s	yu ying um did make a top 16 at dalawan
5579s	but that's eight masters tours ago now
5582s	and hasn't really had a good showing
5584s	since
5585s	and flicks um it's flix's 12th masters
5588s	tour qualified through the qualifying
5589s	system for most of them at least maybe
5591s	all of them and had a terrible first
5594s	nine um
5595s	just kept on going though and his last
5598s	two tours he's gone four and four in
5600s	each one and obviously sitting at four
5603s	and zero here so a lot of improvement
5605s	from flicks over the last two or three
5606s	years and looks like all that hard work
5609s	and effort might be paying off in this
5611s	particular one with that four and oh um
5614s	like you say though big disparity in how
5616s	often we've seen them what we know about
5618s	them what people will think of them so
5620s	flicks probably first time on stream
5623s	first time that i can remember
5625s	may have a little bit of extra pressure
5626s	on so let's see how he bears up under
5628s	that as well
5629s	well taking a look at the uh the picks
5631s	and bands for both of our players it's
5634s	pretty standard stuff on flix's side
5637s	he's got himself the big spell mage
5640s	sorry the uh the thief rogue as opposed
5642s	to the boat rogue and lady presto druid
5644s	and then curse warlock to round things
5647s	out uh only really omitting the other
5649s	wig priest or some form of priest i
5651s	think from the most standard of lineups
5653s	he said his warlock banned away which is
5654s	pretty surprising and uh when you start
5656s	to look at yu ying's decks it does make
5658s	sense they're a little bit slower the
5660s	wall uh sorry the paladin i think could
5662s	really struggle against the warlock uh
5664s	the druid arguably as well uh but
5667s	starting things off with the most
5668s	standard of this decks i think in just
5671s	the uh the good ol boat rogue looking to
5674s	get an early win
5675s	yeah interesting to see i'm not going to
5676s	talk about boat vogue after what sutton
5678s	said he's wrong we'll see after day two
5680s	how this all actually pans out when the
5682s	people at the top of the leaderboard the
5683s	ones who matter not the other 300
5685s	competitors we'll see how they do uh but
5688s	interesting to see the paladin the holy
5689s	paladin here being played i think it's
5691s	one of the decks that all the play test
5693s	groups are like we can't beat it but no
5695s	one will bring it will be okay um it's
5697s	sort of we don't want to meta for a deck
5700s	that no one's going to bring and yu ying
5702s	seems to be cruising on the back of that
5703s	right now
5704s	yeah i mean honestly it's reached uh
5708s	superstitious levels of paranoia uh that
5711s	these players have towards paladin like
5713s	i've seen uh players refer to say such
5716s	stupid statements as warlock is paladin
5719s	which uh essentially means warlock is
5721s	the deck that you think is good the
5723s	stats say it's good it performs well on
5725s	ladder performs well in testing and then
5727s	you bring it and it's terrible because
5729s	that is what that has been what paladin
5731s	is to competitive players for i don't
5734s	even know how many months now it was
5735s	like that when it was libra it's like
5737s	that now when it's the holy variant
5739s	instead it's like that with mech paladin
5741s	as well a lot of the time you think it's
5743s	good the stats say it's good and then it
5745s	just does badly players in apec gm have
5747s	learned a lesson the hard way as well uh
5750s	but for you ying
5751s	maybe he's managed to uh to break the
5753s	curse on this one for the moment at
5755s	least because i do think on paper again
5758s	i know falling for the curse myself here
5760s	uh the holy paladin does have a pretty
5761s	reasonable spread
5763s	up against flix's remaining decks
5765s	um this rogue matchup it is the jackpot
5767s	vogue or whatever you want to call it on
5769s	flixx's side i believe uh talked about
5772s	this a little bit with subtle yesterday
5773s	but how do you see this rogue versus
5775s	vogue matchup you're you're a big rogue
5777s	fan which would you prefer in the mirror
5780s	i mean it's very very hard to
5783s	uh put the uh
5785s	you know to properly define the jackpot
5787s	version of rogue because the variance is
5789s	so so high i do think i probably prefer
5791s	the boat rogue most of the time just
5794s	because um
5798s	the health is low enough i think to the
5800s	point and the interactivity between the
5802s	stealth minions and just minions in
5804s	general is low enough to the point where
5806s	a little bit of early chip damage if you
5808s	get ahead in the early game i would much
5810s	rather have damage to close out the game
5812s	than some weird nebulous value package
5814s	um but of course having said that you
5816s	know if you get jackpot into
5818s	runes of the archmage and then
5820s	swiftscale trickster stepped back to get
5823s	two of them out on the same turn as
5825s	happened to me earlier on today you
5826s	might be able to tell uh then you are
5828s	going to lose that game of hearthstone i
5830s	love just how incredibly small and more
5833s	specific that got as the story went
5835s	along and i knew the ending was going to
5836s	be as happened to me earlier today
5839s	very damage of stories
5841s	uh not the best from this particular
5843s	jackpot could obviously turn out to be
5845s	good later on uh spring water might be
5848s	okay in rogue i guess so
5850s	we'll see how that goes
5851s	but yu ying now has decisions as to
5853s	whether he wants to actually start
5854s	getting stuff on board but not a lot
5856s	going on here actually
5858s	yeah i mean honestly the bloodlust is
5860s	not
5861s	terrible either if you can get yourself
5863s	a uh
5865s	uh i'm sorry is he playing the the boat
5867s	package in this list no no boat package
5869s	okay i was gonna say if you can get the
5870s	stealth and the bloodlust to go
5872s	alongside it it's a lot better uh but i
5874s	guess given that you're not running the
5875s	azsharan vessel it is a little bit
5877s	trickier to actually get the uh the
5879s	bloodlust to activate uh but starting
5882s	things off relatively even for both
5883s	players of course uh shadowed spirit
5886s	here
5887s	fills out the manner alongside your zero
5889s	mana wild port knoll uh which is
5891s	probably where my head would be at
5894s	it looks reasonable to me and that's
5895s	what looks reasonable to flips as well i
5898s	tend to feel that if you don't get on
5900s	board as the boat rogue fairly quickly
5902s	you can just get out valued here if
5904s	you're trading one for one on the board
5906s	so good start here for flicks
5909s	knew you better get a move on getting
5911s	onto this board
5915s	headwind a possibility of course in the
5917s	hopes that you get a cheap spell to prep
5919s	out but given that a fair few of the
5921s	cheap spells are actually in hand most
5923s	of them that would be playable actually
5925s	to be honest uh i do think it probably
5927s	ends up
5928s	uh
5929s	as just tooth on this turn but i guess
5931s	you could just go edwin prep tooth just
5934s	to get some more stats on the board
5936s	yeah chance of drawing into something if
5938s	you don't with the prep tooth back up as
5939s	well just in case you can hit a spell
5941s	here
5943s	well you can but no that's not what i
5945s	had in mind so yeah prep tooth
5947s	yep it's just a plan
5949s	four four draw a card it's really not
5954s	yeah it's always very tempting because
5955s	edwin obviously is one of the there's
5957s	not a huge amount of card draw in the
5958s	deck and edwin is a large chunk of that
5961s	very tempting to hold it for too long
5962s	and just get battered while you're
5964s	trying to hold on to it so using it as
5967s	tempo option always the sensible play
5969s	yeah code amount uh does make sense uh
5972s	taking the draw option was tempting just
5974s	to get yourself double
5976s	billet fighter with a mr smite in hand
5979s	but i think the mana is a little bit too
5981s	uh
5982s	too expensive to be focusing on that
5984s	game plan right now so just going for
5985s	the highest uh
5986s	uh
5988s	tempo board option uh i think does make
5990s	the most sense oh he hits
5993s	okay okay not bad spell urgently there
5995s	and got something
5998s	i mean
6000s	can't really do much i guess the dagger
6003s	uh is is not bad just to clear off the
6005s	edwin hey
6007s	yeah there's always that temptation to
6009s	to just coin shroud here to spend all
6012s	your mana but yeah dagger's probably
6014s	fine like you say get rid of the edwin
6016s	allows you to
6017s	grab a tower next turn which is a huge
6019s	deal
6020s	yeah that's the big one you cannot use
6022s	point here when you have crabatory in
6024s	hand that is your
6025s	uh your way back into the game that's
6027s	how you're gonna lock down this board
6030s	uh and so for
6032s	yu ying
6034s	uh the ajar and vessel is the obvious
6036s	play on this turn i'm just trying to
6037s	think how well kodo mount uh fits into
6040s	this equation which uh is to say not
6044s	very well you'd go like
6046s	philip fighter koda mount
6048s	and uh well to be fair actually if you
6052s	use the the one damage from the the
6054s	philip fighter and the dagger to take
6055s	out the three two you can then get a
6057s	value trade right on the uh the two two
6060s	or you could just send it more damage
6062s	edwin's face
6066s	see where the mind's at here
6071s	yeah i like this a lot
6076s	oh crap toe is the obvious looking play
6079s	what else is there available here
6082s	i
6083s	don't think there's anything uh you need
6085s	to juice up these contraband stashes a
6087s	little bit more
6088s	uh before they're really doing anything
6090s	many options
6093s	and it's a pretty good crabatora as well
6095s	actually you know the tutu really helps
6097s	to smooth out
6100s	it's reasonable
6103s	i like this though taking his time to
6105s	just look for anything else because he
6107s	he saw this in the 0.1 seconds that we
6109s	all saw it of course
6117s	and make no mistake because of these
6118s	very very aggressive lines from yu ying
6120s	flix even with a coin krabatoa as the
6122s	king of board control in this matchup uh
6125s	is kind of still just dying uh right now
6128s	if there's any amount of burst damage
6130s	whatsoever from yu ying and uh no
6133s	surprise healing cards off of the
6134s	jackpot uh ewing should be in a position
6137s	to just lock this one out because if we
6138s	just start to count up the damage
6141s	seven plus six that's lethal in two
6143s	turns time
6144s	yep absolutely
6148s	even ignoring the potential for like uh
6150s	a vessel play on this turn to set up for
6153s	more damage with mr smite if you want to
6154s	that i think that's the play right the
6156s	vessel and then you can either ping face
6158s	or you can dagger face
6160s	you put your opponent to 12 which is
6161s	nice with mr smite vessel force him to
6163s	have something in the way
6165s	or kill you i guess but yeah good luck
6169s	i mean it's all just a question of what
6171s	could they generate to save themselves
6174s	because they need to generate something
6175s	like if you just go wicked stab tooth
6177s	that will win you the game next time
6179s	with mr smite unless they generate some
6180s	kind of healing or uh
6182s	taunt but the problem is that that also
6185s	plays havoc with azshara and vessel
6188s	so i guess in the event that they do
6190s	have some kind of healing you may as
6192s	well go for the line that sets up lethal
6194s	but if they don't have lethal you're
6195s	still committing something to the board
6197s	if they do manage to find the healing
6202s	okay healings and taunts
6204s	that's not those
6207s	nothing to target with the uh to get the
6209s	honorable kill
6214s	you can go for contraband stash which
6216s	will activate a refreshing spring water
6221s	yuck
6222s	yuck indeed
6228s	that um
6229s	eight to face from the edwin
6231s	done all of this
6237s	nope
6240s	nope
6242s	needs 14 from hand with four mana that
6244s	seems unlikely
6248s	yeah i mean realistically it was hoping
6250s	for some kind of a uh
6252s	a generation off the jackpot or maybe
6254s	off of tooth to get some healing this
6256s	again if it can get him i'd currently
6259s	the new shaman spell that heals you for
6261s	six and reduces the spell in hand that
6263s	can maybe get the job done flash of
6265s	light some of these uh kind of
6268s	cheap healing effects
6269s	uh but none of them presenting
6271s	themselves
6272s	that's gonna be it you being able to
6273s	close out the game even with a seven
6276s	mana smite that's still good enough
6278s	that really upsets you doesn't it
6280s	you can't use this seven on the top left
6282s	corner of the smite
6284s	it is really upsetting as one of those
6286s	people that needs to have the volume on
6288s	a multiple of five or i just can't
6290s	concentrate like i'm watching uh yeah a
6293s	seven mana mr smite it just feels wrong
6297s	with that 1-0 lead i always harp on
6299s	about it and no matter you know how good
6302s	the decks are
6303s	effective mirror matches in conquest
6305s	usually pretty important and this one's
6307s	no exception so
6308s	big win there for yu ying and he's just
6311s	left with the druid and the holy pun
6315s	and uh as i said i think the holy
6316s	paladin is in a really good spot rogue i
6319s	love that matchup for the paladin
6320s	prestor druid it's not a matchup i've
6322s	seen but i kind of have to guess the
6325s	same thing i don't think especially with
6327s	uh a prince renithol version as flix is
6330s	going for the early game is going to be
6332s	quite consistently aggressive enough to
6335s	run them over before their removal
6337s	effect uh and before the uh
6342s	uh sorry the
6344s	gang of the carrier sorry can come
6345s	online in the late game in order to just
6346s	really lock out the game and then mage
6348s	again i kind of think it's the same
6349s	thing these big minions that come down
6351s	like belinda the drake fire amulet you
6353s	can very easily answer them with the
6355s	righteous defense and some of these big
6357s	pyro equality clears as well so that one
6360s	i think for yu ying is uh very very
6362s	likely to get a win the alignment druid
6363s	is a little bit more of a concern though
6366s	because against presto druid and the the
6368s	rogue as well
6370s	those can be pretty high tempo decks uh
6372s	which is traditionally what alignment
6374s	druid has struggled with
6376s	i want to fight everybody even though
6378s	alignment druid is like one of the
6379s	lowest win rate decks so far in the
6381s	tournament i still want to fight
6382s	everybody i still think it's favored
6383s	against crystal uh but this is the 30
6386s	card version of alignment druid so i
6388s	think that point is significantly more
6391s	relevant i played a lot of the 40 card
6392s	version when i'm making these statements
6394s	obviously the discussion we had a
6396s	million times yesterday uh 40 health 30
6399s	health consistency versus inconsistency
6401s	and yu ying seems to be doing well with
6403s	the the consistent version and he's
6405s	going to be though up against this big
6407s	spell mage which i disagree with raven i
6410s	think this is one of the best decks in
6411s	the event and i also think it's more
6412s	consistent than it gets credit for with
6415s	the different combinations of ways to
6417s	get your spells launched early on
6420s	uh i i think it's a good deck i i
6423s	wouldn't
6424s	call it consistent if i'm being
6426s	perfectly honest like in consistent in
6428s	terms of the power spikes i don't think
6429s	so like as we've seen in this tournament
6431s	uh
6432s	belinda obviously if you can draw
6434s	belinda in there we'll forget
6435s	move on from there congratulations we
6437s	know that barbaric sorceress is like
6439s	that other way that you can cheat out
6440s	these spells early on and i think we've
6442s	seen
6443s	almost every time big spell mage has
6445s	come up players have made a concerted
6447s	effort to empty their hand of cheap
6450s	spells uh which means that when compared
6452s	to on ladder where players are not going
6454s	to do that most of the time uh it
6456s	becomes a lot more difficult to actually
6458s	get these big spells online it's a deck
6460s	that's very susceptible to uh to counter
6462s	play for to good understanding of the
6464s	match up from your opponent uh which i
6467s	do think we have consistently seen in
6469s	this i think that's fair um i i do think
6471s	that it's understated if you're forcing
6473s	your opponent to dump a load of spells
6475s	they didn't really want to dump i think
6477s	that's still something you are doing
6479s	that is affecting your opponent's deck
6482s	if you're forcing to innovate into
6483s	something early they didn't want to
6485s	really use um so i'm going to stand by
6488s	my guns for at least another round or
6489s	two before i inevitably just give up and
6492s	tell everyone they were right and i was
6493s	wrong because that's how i work
6496s	or fail to work in my case
6499s	uh that guff looks dangerous oh my
6501s	goodness it does doesn't it
6506s	i mean we're always just doing that on
6507s	turn three right like the amalgam yeah
6509s	you can play on turn two but you're
6510s	never getting out any earlier um yeah
6513s	the mage is forcing the druid to dump
6516s	these innovates that's that's the line
6518s	i'm going with here yeah what a win for
6521s	the mage yeah the mage is absolutely
6523s	just winning here right forcing that to
6525s	happen
6529s	so obviously on flicks right now the
6531s	game plan is pretty much entirely based
6533s	on either draw belinder if you're a good
6535s	player uh or get the barbaric sorceress
6538s	down and active more likely
6541s	which is you know by giving your
6542s	opponent the coin as well from the
6544s	mailbox dancer it's one of the other
6545s	hidden interactions that makes it more
6547s	likely to be able to get this drape fire
6549s	amulet down nice and cheap uh but again
6552s	ewing is just not to let that happen
6554s	it's going to be coin vape guff vape
6556s	hero power for ramp as well and then
6558s	miracle growth is going to be not far
6560s	off
6562s	and then
6563s	flits is going to play a treasure guard
6567s	over to you derek
6570s	touche
6572s	oh man this is such a disgusting start
6575s	you just
6576s	lifted the uh the celestial alignment
6578s	he's just gonna play his cards for full
6579s	mana and it's gonna win so easily
6589s	you have to go ramp and then you can
6591s	consider if you want to play the
6592s	smothering starfish
6594s	i want to say no because i think in the
6596s	later stages of the game there's a
6598s	reasonable chance that you end up with a
6600s	big board that's frozen in the form of
6604s	blizzard off of the rune of the archmage
6606s	or from vardhan
6608s	and being able to use the smothering
6609s	starfish offensively to get all those
6611s	unfrozen is i think more important than
6614s	denying a card draw i think flix is
6616s	making the right play here we can see
6618s	that it's been played around pretty well
6621s	but
6621s	this is i've lost anyway so let's just
6624s	see what happens play yeah nods sagely
6627s	um we've seen you spend the coin in the
6629s	two innovate so i wasn't expecting a big
6631s	deal but i think that's all he had there
6632s	really
6634s	and it's not nothing it does mean that
6636s	yu yin can't go for the miracle growth
6638s	on this turn it slows him down for a
6640s	full extra turn before these uh power
6642s	plays start coming online
6644s	uh do i think that's gonna allow flicks
6647s	to catch up in this game no
6650s	but if he was going to you know this uh
6654s	this helps this gives him this this is a
6657s	the first step on a journey
6659s	yeah it could have hit a noise or
6660s	something possibly as well though like
6662s	you have made very clear yu ying would
6664s	probably have played such a card but if
6666s	he's played a nurse he might join to two
6667s	other cards so yeah
6669s	you have to take the chance and yeah
6670s	these these are the games that mage is
6672s	going to have a bad timing because
6675s	the drake fire amulet is not going to be
6676s	enough right you need to make multiple
6678s	dragons multiple times here to start
6680s	taking on a prospective alignment as
6682s	well
6684s	the boxes are great they're how you win
6685s	the game but also then they're not what
6688s	you want to be launching when you're
6689s	behind
6692s	there's the deep water on this turn you
6694s	just want to draw all the cards you can
6696s	from your deck so that you are more
6698s	likely to draw belinda on curve next
6700s	turn that is the out right now for
6703s	flicks uh to have a chance in this game
6705s	oh my bad sorry it is the drake fire so
6707s	it is the the right one i think it was
6708s	the rune for some reason
6710s	hmm
6712s	but yeah i mean your opponent's playing
6713s	raid boss and nixia on turn five or turn
6716s	six whatever it is
6718s	turn
6721s	it's a little bit druid
6727s	sometimes makes you wonder if just vamp
6729s	druid is still the way and just take the
6731s	alignment package out obviously it's not
6733s	nobody plays that but when it does this
6735s	sort of stuff you're like okay well i
6736s	just don't need the rest of this package
6738s	i'm just gonna hit you
6740s	and again it it does start to make you
6743s	re-evaluate on the uh the renaissance
6746s	version right because this is a game
6748s	that was
6749s	you know maybe not one necessarily but
6751s	catapulted ewing massively into the lead
6753s	because of the one-off best guard in his
6755s	deck of wild heart guff making it any
6757s	less likely that you draw a guff makes
6759s	your uh deck an awful lot worse
6762s	obviously again the 10 health
6763s	specifically against aggro is where it's
6766s	really going to make the most difference
6767s	as opposed to against big spell mage
6769s	where you just want the consistency more
6771s	so than the extra health uh but even so
6773s	in this instance it's looking like yu
6774s	ying's more streamlined deck
6777s	building approach is working out really
6779s	gorgeously for him yeah not to mention
6781s	the double innovate right it's just
6783s	everything he could wish for
6785s	um and he got everything he could wish
6786s	for by having a smaller deck so one for
6788s	the 30 card brigade
6791s	i think we may find it it alternates
6794s	depending on meta honestly
6795s	if matters get too quick we might see 30
6797s	cards is a must if metas get slow then
6799s	people start getting greedy with the 40
6801s	cards it might be one of those
6802s	situations
6809s	one more turn away still from playing
6811s	this amulet
6813s	two more turns from the roon ah
6816s	and he can stall right in order to get
6818s	to that
6819s	point garden on this turn amulet and
6823s	then uh amulet should probably protect
6826s	him
6827s	uh
6828s	for
6829s	a turn i want to say you can get the uh
6832s	the rush of the next year you can get
6834s	the taunt of sleepy dragon uh or the
6836s	primordial drake
6839s	i think you might be having a think
6840s	about what to do with this finley as
6841s	well i think his hands it is what it is
6843s	now that there's any reason to throw it
6845s	away and try for anything better this is
6846s	kind of as given the situation you're in
6849s	i think it's kind of as good as it's
6850s	going to get
6852s	throwing away from belinda you just eat
6853s	a lot of damage well that's the thing
6855s	right you could just throw it all away
6856s	and hope that belinda is on the bottom
6858s	of your deck because then you just go
6860s	uh rune of the arc mage next
6864s	that's enough though
6866s	that's the problem right
6868s	it's taking 18. it's probably not but
6870s	you're probably gonna lose this game
6872s	right sure something really miraculous
6874s	needs to happen here i think for there
6876s	to be a chance of flicks and he sees it
6878s	as just being
6881s	uh barden into the archmage or drake
6884s	fire into the arc mage which is i think
6885s	a very reasonable approach you know i'm
6887s	not saying that digging for the blind it
6888s	was necessarily better at all it's just
6890s	another way of trying to find that slim
6893s	avenue back into the game
6896s	meanwhile yu ying is just making a
6897s	monster every turn just down to the 12
6899s	cards in deck oh yeah kazakhstan i mean
6902s	i'm just reeling off things that can
6903s	happen if these first four boards are
6905s	cleared
6907s	i mean ying is having a very very simple
6909s	game here and he's doing exactly what
6910s	you're supposed to do
6914s	ah
6917s	and now i
6919s	don't even think you're allowed to go
6922s	drake fire amulet because you go sources
6925s	to try and hit the two mana room that's
6927s	what you go for i think
6929s	yeah i like the fact he did this
6931s	honestly
6932s	yeah i respect it
6936s	it was there as well like the scales was
6938s	there in hand to hit on the room there
6940s	was a chance of it happening like one in
6941s	four one in six or something
6947s	uh so how does this work you can go
6949s	anacondra
6951s	plus alignment on the same turn or is
6954s	there just a lethal here instead yeah
6956s	that's just lethal cool good job two uh
6959s	i think he could have gotten there with
6960s	loch lo or the alex straza in the end
6963s	but that'll get the job done and flix in
6965s	a real rough spot after a 4-0 start to
6968s	the swiss just one game away from
6970s	falling down now and launching yu ying
6972s	up to
6974s	his first positive masters tour uh
6978s	or his first really good start to a
6979s	masters during quite a while as you said
6981s	dalaran was the last time he got through
6983s	to a top 16 the only time he's got
6985s	through to a top 16
6987s	but so far i think you know his decks
6989s	look very much on point for me and while
6991s	this was anything but a difficult game
6994s	for him to play uh we haven't seen any
6995s	real mistakes so far
6997s	no absolutely and as you highlighted the
6999s	paladin remaining the deck that probably
7002s	is going to be okay in this lineup
7004s	although
7005s	not necessarily so much against the mage
7007s	and the press stores druid but against
7009s	the rogue the rogue's going to have a
7011s	tough time getting through that if they
7012s	cure it to each other
7018s	nice steady start to the day woke up got
7020s	to his match played his match
7023s	it was a good start
7024s	yeah not a bad way to be
7027s	as now taking a look at this list it is
7030s	pretty much just the straight up
7031s	standard list right i don't see anything
7033s	that's changed since the most recent uh
7035s	couple of balance patches
7037s	um one righteous defense yeah you'd
7040s	probably rather two in most of these
7041s	matchups especially against the the big
7043s	spell mage but the one of mermaid on a
7045s	really really nice inclusion to give you
7047s	a little bit more consistency in your
7050s	card draw and uh even with carryall
7052s	going up to eight which definitely
7054s	stings and can make a match up uh sorry
7056s	a difference in a lot of these match-ups
7058s	it's still just the win the game card
7061s	against rogue and probably against the
7063s	prestor druid as well i very nearly put
7065s	the key cards just carry or carry your
7067s	carry on it because all the other cards
7069s	just support for a lot of the games
7071s	but i was a good person who decided to
7073s	put some of the um the stalling card
7075s	instead
7077s	[Music]
7079s	all right going for the vogue first
7081s	you're just gonna get it over with see
7082s	if you can get this one done and then
7083s	make a match of it after that
7086s	he is once again playing the uh as we
7088s	can see very nicely illustrated there
7090s	the jackpot variant which does open up a
7093s	whole universe of possibilities uh a
7095s	whole plethora of ways for yu ying to
7098s	make his uh life miserable or for him to
7101s	make ewing's life miserable but the main
7104s	expected game plan as in the vast
7106s	majority of games jackpot does not offer
7108s	you a win condition it just obviously a
7110s	way to seize some extra tempo or draw
7112s	some extra cards um
7115s	the expected game plan i think will just
7118s	pan out
7120s	yeah ying does have a decent amount of
7122s	stall which is what the deck is so it's
7124s	no surprise
7128s	nothing he's not he's not gonna get
7129s	stomped right from the start here flix
7131s	is gonna have to work for this win if
7132s	he's gonna get it
7139s	we have seen rat king be pretty
7141s	impactful yeah and it has seen
7144s	resurrections a couple of times
7146s	uh but
7147s	probably in this instance yeah it does
7149s	make sense to still just go with the uh
7150s	the tarantula uh there are some tempo
7153s	plays that palestine is going for in the
7154s	mid game and having those uh
7157s	little spiderlings that come out to take
7159s	them out
7160s	uh is i think the way to go
7164s	spiderling these one ones come on get me
7168s	whatever they're called i think that's
7170s	i'm going to call them spiderlings from
7171s	now on
7172s	close enough just spiders
7175s	it's usually lings right in the
7177s	hearthstone when it's a 1-1 it's it's
7179s	something linked
7181s	agree
7183s	gotta entirely my co-casters in their
7185s	attempts
7187s	they support me
7189s	only fair gotta show solidarity with my
7192s	casters are being really blooming stupid
7194s	yeah absolutely right
7196s	they've done that for me for years i'd
7198s	be totally unfair if i didn't pay back
7200s	the um
7201s	the favor
7204s	all right so he's going to get some
7205s	board for eternal two deciding whether i
7207s	got probably the deal here
7210s	uh yeah i mean you can go to jackpot
7211s	null dagger uh obviously depending on
7213s	what you get
7216s	again
7217s	that's not really good enough like
7219s	nourish yeah nourish is okay it draws
7222s	you through your deck but the problem is
7224s	that it's not like you just need to do
7226s	stuff every single turn as the rogue you
7228s	need to do stuff every single turn
7230s	before the paladin hits that unlosable
7233s	board stay or until they hit carry you
7235s	only have uh a very finite number of
7238s	turns in which to actually execute your
7241s	game plan as the rogue and spending five
7244s	mana or nourish to draw three cards is
7248s	such a monumental chunk of your time
7250s	just eaten up in this matchup
7253s	will you draw three will he just go for
7255s	a mana and just try and dump maybe
7256s	everything yeah
7258s	that would not be ridiculous i think
7262s	then you've got two or three turns of
7264s	just lots of mana dump lots of stuff and
7266s	hope it gets there
7271s	you ying's early looking start looked
7273s	okay it has gone into a bit of a
7276s	light stalling
7278s	phase for now but i mean look at the
7279s	hand he can do what he likes
7287s	yeah i like that he's just continuing to
7288s	draw through his deck spending his mana
7290s	on uh holy spells so both the light ray
7294s	and the uh the garden's grace
7296s	get cheaper and cheaper
7298s	uh because again as i said you know it's
7299s	not just carryall that uh gets you to
7302s	that stabilization point in the game
7304s	going for a uh
7305s	uh just straight up light ray gardens
7308s	grace is often enough to just put a stop
7310s	rogue dead in its tracks because uh as
7313s	i've said contrary to what you would
7315s	expect from rogue as a class the single
7318s	target removal right now is very very
7319s	big on the desk conflicts get them
7323s	a million mana with that preparation
7325s	next turn that's gonna be the turn
7327s	and hopes and stuff works out for you
7330s	i like i do respect the line he's going
7332s	for it doesn't mean that like queen
7333s	azshara can come down plus the colossal
7336s	on the same turn those are the kind of
7338s	plays we need to see
7339s	yeah understanding the position well
7341s	that hey i'm up against it here i've not
7342s	got the turbo start of any sort got an
7345s	okay board
7347s	make another couple of okay boards then
7348s	just give it up if it doesn't get there
7351s	carryall found now for yu ying uh
7354s	unfortunately because of the nerf from
7356s	seven up to eight it means it's not
7357s	gonna be playable next turn with the
7359s	coin but in two or maybe three turns
7361s	time if the coin is forced to be
7363s	expended uh and in the meantime you know
7367s	he has powerful plays obviously in the
7369s	form of just pyro plus quality but it
7372s	feels like pretty big overkill here when
7375s	it doesn't even actually clear the board
7384s	yeah i like this
7386s	we've got infinite health
7388s	to work with that's the thing so he's
7390s	going to use that as infinite time
7393s	because you know that it can die on
7395s	board but that's the point of playing it
7397s	it's a minion that basically just has
7399s	taunt uh or you know if they throw in
7401s	the preparation then uh that still works
7403s	out kind of okay for you because now for
7405s	flicks it means it can't be azshara plus
7408s	the uh the horn plus the colossal on the
7411s	same turn things start to get a little
7412s	bit trickier to work through
7416s	how it can again
7431s	okay
7435s	just keep going all in
7437s	yeah he gets there
7438s	i think our draws pretty good
7442s	contraband stuff probably yeah you can
7444s	get yourself another leviathan another
7447s	nourish too
7448s	it's a lot of stuff it's going to be
7450s	pretty tasty
7452s	and it's time for you ying to spring
7454s	into life now with um
7456s	at least one board and another board the
7457s	turnout to deal with but obviously
7459s	yeah he's got a whole handful of removal
7462s	so he should be fine
7471s	and i i do think it's it's worth it to
7473s	go about it this way because even though
7475s	he's like arguably using a pyro in a
7477s	pretty inefficient manner uh those
7480s	spiders are pretty important to actually
7481s	clear off because he's going to be
7482s	starting to play some pretty big
7483s	millions uh with the double gardens
7485s	grace in in the the near future
7496s	there's something happening here
7498s	there's blood in the water
7500s	can you get through
7506s	i love that even against the board that
7508s	it clears almost nothing you're still
7510s	allowed to just play your hero guard
7512s	yeah because it's just so broken in
7515s	terms of halving the damage my goodness
7517s	just gained 24 health why not
7527s	all right
7529s	you look at this hand you look at this
7531s	board and you think hey this is this is
7532s	nice then you just watch the health go
7534s	down two at a time come on
7537s	let me in
7540s	yeah i agree on the shroud completely
7544s	take some damage will you
7548s	ah and i mean honestly at this point i'm
7551s	kind of on board with just slamming
7553s	krabatoa
7555s	because if i have a clear you're losing
7556s	this game anyway
7558s	there's just no way that you have a
7560s	chance at that point yeah i'm gonna air
7564s	yeah you know i was gonna go stab tooth
7566s	maybe but sure okay i mean i'll say i
7569s	think it's
7571s	it's
7572s	more likely that they just don't have
7575s	removal for this then you can win the
7577s	game if they have removal and you save
7579s	krabatoa right
7580s	actually
7582s	i'm going to argue with you derek which
7583s	is never good for me but i think he
7586s	has the lethal
7588s	on the board anyway with the two cards
7590s	in hand
7590s	[Music]
7592s	yeah okay right that makes sense i mean
7595s	you're expecting some kind of heel
7596s	though right of course yes like a holy
7598s	mackey roll or a big torn in the form of
7601s	a light ray
7603s	it's a bit much to ask for no board
7605s	clear and no heel but yeah there was at
7607s	least some method there i mean i don't
7610s	think you're winning this game i don't
7611s	think sorry i shouldn't say i don't
7612s	think you're hitting lethal next turn
7614s	anyway
7616s	but playing kravita at least gave him a
7618s	little bit more of a shot at doing so
7626s	look up your opponents down to only six
7628s	cards we're getting there okay the test
7634s	pretty big deal the staying power is
7636s	starting to uh increase ever so slowly
7639s	it does allow the krabatoa to be played
7641s	now i think with absolute confidence as
7643s	well
7648s	the dredge options
7650s	probably blademaster akane yeah because
7653s	you you have a way to generate a board
7655s	you want a way to protect that board now
7657s	more importantly
7663s	i mean the crazy thing is from here from
7665s	ewing is that from here on out
7667s	kind of just a mr smite away from lethal
7670s	uh with double gardens grace is the
7672s	really disgusting thing about this deck
7674s	um
7676s	he he probably will end up playing one
7678s	or two of them uh on this turn anyway
7681s	um casualty
7684s	yeah
7685s	still pretty funny to think about
7691s	yeah those spiders really are irritating
7692s	aren't they you'd have to go through
7695s	uh
7696s	a quality pyro light ray grace grace but
7699s	then you lose the divine shields or like
7701s	mackie roll mackie roll some kind of
7703s	nonsense that way
7706s	oh
7707s	there he is there he is mr wind
7710s	condition
7714s	yeah stick the light ray in the way it's
7716s	just a distraction it's a smoke screen
7718s	at this point
7727s	i got hit by smoke screen on ladder
7729s	today it's really good
7732s	it's not the answer i thought you were
7734s	going to get it was pretty great
7736s	actually
7737s	well it wasn't fun but when you play
7739s	with the uh the trickster it's pretty
7741s	powerful
7743s	how close is this
7745s	oh yo yo this is a lot of counting okay
7748s	so you can go
7751s	crabator plus three swings uh it's just
7754s	not there is it like you're dealing
7756s	uh four sorry on a three with the wicked
7760s	style
7761s	two with the
7763s	tooth
7770s	that's five plus
7773s	another two
7775s	um
7776s	another four yeah it's you just can't
7779s	get there even with krav towar even with
7781s	the test for more rush the leviathan
7785s	just have to play the ball control room
7788s	yep
7789s	give it away though
7797s	there's nothing wrecking well there's a
7798s	pirate quality i'm saying he's chipping
7800s	away great good for him
7809s	it's just lethal now yeah plus five plus
7811s	five that'll do it
7813s	oh man a valiant effort from flicks as i
7816s	think even in the face of carry he was
7818s	getting to a position where it was close
7819s	to lethal there but after a very nice
7821s	setup from
7823s	uh recognizing the power of just
7825s	slamming carrial into sorry into a well
7828s	populated board and then hard fishing
7831s	for mr smite that's going to lead up to
7833s	a 3-0 start for yu ying as uh his
7836s	chances at another top 16 look to be
7840s	rising as the day goes on absolutely
7843s	yeah and a few other players going up
7845s	there by the way at 5-0 habu gabu give
7847s	please on 5-0 spring who we hadn't seen
7850s	until fairly recently 5-0
7852s	cena 5-0
7855s	and then we've got all of the european
7857s	fury hunter bunny hopper set on four and
7859s	one
7860s	and i want to highlight baloric's derek
7862s	balok's on three and two but has had a
7864s	lot of time off for university and stuff
7867s	uh reminder this all counts towards
7869s	winter champs so you don't have to win
7870s	the tournament to to be in a good spot
7872s	and baloric somebody if you can get a
7875s	five three or six two that we should
7876s	keep an eye on going forward through the
7878s	next couple of tournaments
7880s	love to hear it yeah big fan of bellarix
7882s	and uh hope that he can get the uh
7885s	the result that we know he deserves as
7887s	the top end of the bracket looking very
7890s	very spicy indeed good representation
7892s	from all the different regions as well i
7894s	believe which is great to see
7897s	um
7899s	like it's been a very good tournament
7900s	i'm liking the the different uh
7903s	matchups here the different lineups i've
7905s	seen from all the different players i
7906s	still honestly i'm struggling at this
7908s	point to decide on what i think is the
7910s	standard lineup because even if we can
7912s	look at like you know what is
7913s	objectively the most broad lineup
7916s	it still feels kind of close i feel
7918s	there's a lot of wiggle room between
7919s	what the top decks are right now and few
7921s	of them seem to have a coherent strategy
7924s	which always leads to some real head
7926s	scratchers in terms of who may be in the
7928s	lead in any given series yeah yesterday
7930s	was the day where
7932s	in very basic terms the aggro decks took
7935s	out the greedy decks that's sort of
7936s	where you're at but that doesn't mean
7938s	the aggro decks are now best placed
7940s	going forward if they if they start
7941s	running into the more mid-range decks
7943s	that have held on against the greedy
7945s	decks it could be a case that the aggro
7947s	decks get murdered over the course of
7949s	today that's why it's going to be a very
7950s	interesting day as it unfolds we are
7953s	going to jump into another match though
7955s	a picara versus a spring who i just
7957s	mentioned i think i may even support the
7958s	result well done me
7959s	um
7961s	let's see how this one goes down with
7963s	spring who we totally don't know how how
7965s	he ends up doing versus pikahara at two
7967s	one
7970s	well taking a look at their uh lineup
7973s	sorry i'm just bringing it up now and
7977s	uh
7978s	well i guess i can have a look here the
7980s	shaman uh on the side for pikahara
7982s	i'm still a big fan of i know that you
7984s	were struggling with it even right the
7986s	way up uh until our broadcast uh up
7988s	against the warlock on the other side
7990s	for spring um
7992s	i do think that the shaman is the better
7994s	way to go as opposed to the warlock i'm
7995s	still very much not convinced uh on
7998s	cursed warlock as a deck but were they
8000s	to go head to head i do actually think
8001s	that's a match up where the warlock
8003s	can't pull into the lead
8005s	we are going to see he's going to be
8007s	against the druid because we saw that
8008s	was the only left deck left for spring
8010s	on the mage that i'm going to stick by
8012s	my guns and say it's okay here
8014s	against the druid
8016s	and again not much more to say i i
8019s	understand we saw how it isn't
8020s	consistent last time around with a
8022s	perfect um explanation by you we saw in
8024s	action all the zero cost spells played
8026s	by the druid two to get the term three
8029s	guff that seemed a little bit
8031s	i want to say a little bit unfair but
8032s	druid does unfair things so
8035s	sure
8036s	um but yeah no no belinda and the
8038s	sorceresses were useless uh the story
8041s	that you described
8042s	and i'm not sure exactly which druid
8044s	this is it's a press store druid this
8046s	time around that's a bit different
8048s	oh is that so okay well uh preston drew
8051s	it up against uh
8054s	mage
8055s	uh i think can be a little bit of a
8057s	weird one i think that
8060s	on average i want to say the maid should
8062s	be able to
8064s	keep up reasonably well in the early
8065s	game and if they hit that power spike
8067s	you know they are going to be able to do
8069s	very very well there but the presto
8071s	druid is exactly the kind of deck that
8073s	can play around the barbaric sorceress
8075s	very very easily all their cheap spells
8077s	are very very easy to play in the form
8080s	of aquatic form and innovate they are
8082s	just you know the most possible cards in
8084s	the game uh and then uh this
8088s	if not consistent because there's 40
8090s	cards in the deck but still very low
8091s	curving deck can uh get a lot of
8094s	pressure in in these early turns uh and
8096s	like i said if the mage doesn't hit
8098s	their power spike i think the druid
8100s	should be able to close it out
8103s	yep
8104s	king didn't want any of that looking for
8106s	even better stuff you can have a wait
8109s	there's a more dress in here hang on
8119s	uh
8121s	yes
8123s	i've gotten the wrong way around i'm so
8125s	sorry
8126s	oh okay i mean uh
8129s	no you had it the right way
8131s	i did have it right
8132s	yes i did there's just a more dish in
8134s	here that's it it's just straight up big
8136s	spell mage with a more dress yeah she's
8140s	unbelievably greedy oh my god no
8143s	wildfire or anything there's just a more
8144s	dress just chilling in the deck
8147s	confused me massively for a moment
8155s	well that's not a very good just one
8157s	drop against mage is it
8159s	it's going to happen to that
8160s	tune in to find out but it does allow
8163s	spring who has drawn all of the early
8166s	game here
8167s	to dump a watch post out there i think
8170s	yeah it did essentially force pikahara
8172s	onto this play because even though
8174s	weirdly enough he had access to the snow
8176s	flurry if he wanted it in order to get a
8178s	2-3 on the board
8179s	right away he opted not to go for it
8184s	[Music]
8191s	okay i'm giggling because look at these
8194s	two hands like if you cast this
8195s	hearthstone tournament to a month ago or
8198s	a few months ago just didn't know the
8199s	met it's like what is happening in these
8201s	two decks uh it's actually so true it's
8204s	such an arena matchup
8207s	just some cards that you found down the
8209s	back of the sofa put them in the deck
8211s	see what happens oh look they'll they'll
8213s	do i'll play this at the masters tour
8215s	what could go wrong
8219s	battle ram king
8222s	oh
8223s	is that really the play
8226s	held a little bit weak didn't it but
8228s	then we can see the spring is
8230s	just loaded up with cheap so there's the
8232s	press store yeah always costs five
8236s	and it felt really weak like it's not
8239s	better than just going okani
8242s	even i think you wanted to save the
8243s	akani for the press store here to be
8245s	fair
8247s	i guess there's not
8249s	i mean there's quite a lot of one drops
8251s	though is the thing and you know they
8252s	have coin and you know it costs five as
8255s	well like i i guess you didn't
8256s	necessarily know actually that they are
8258s	able to go for the uh the exact place so
8260s	saving it for the the presto fair enough
8263s	but even though maybe it was better just
8264s	go for the deep water of volca last turn
8266s	instead i don't know it just felt like a
8268s	very very weak play from pikahara i did
8271s	prefer the evoker line i've got to admit
8272s	but i do like saving this for presto i
8274s	think it's important usually obviously
8276s	it didn't matter because festival costs
8277s	five like it always does on stream
8280s	you can't stop this snowstorm
8289s	alright time to open infinite dragon
8291s	boxes
8292s	there's one
8293s	oh there's another one
8297s	just gonna point it all face
8299s	it's actually just this is another
8301s	that's how it works
8302s	yeah my god
8307s	does he get there though it gets there
8309s	doesn't it i think it might just get
8311s	there i mean we've already seen the
8313s	armor right this is the good case
8314s	scenario for pikahara without the uh
8316s	invoker he'd just be dead next turn to
8319s	the other alexstrasza
8326s	okay trying to look for
8328s	spammy clears uh first of all but he
8331s	thinks he can maybe get some value
8332s	trades alongside a reckless apprentice
8334s	instead
8336s	and you know to be fair it's pretty good
8338s	right you fit in a
8340s	ping
8341s	alongside this and then you're able to
8343s	fully clear the board
8345s	yep whilst taking a value trade too
8349s	it's two more turns to get to the moon
8351s	as well so
8353s	making a board trading next turn you'd
8355s	expect next turn to be able to trade
8356s	sort of pretty much everything away then
8358s	play roon on
8360s	you think you're gonna get there
8363s	oh come on you are definitely supposed
8365s	to go more resources just to find the
8367s	other alex strazza come on
8368s	[Laughter]
8371s	just alex somebody four times up by turn
8374s	seven
8375s	that seems fair
8378s	uh
8379s	i
8380s	don't
8381s	really think it matters what you pick
8383s	off of these
8384s	probably twilight drake but
8387s	i don't know i don't think you're really
8388s	playing any of them are you i wanted
8390s	twilight drake so i could get it out of
8391s	my hand
8392s	yeah
8393s	that was it because this composting is
8394s	going to be pretty grim as well
8397s	all right so pikahara has got the
8399s	starfish has got some more pings now
8402s	available to clear to get to nine mana
8406s	yeah starfish and then apprentice
8410s	is it clear uh and i'd have to guess it
8413s	sets up mordresh right
8418s	yeah but if it's not what the heck is
8420s	that card doing don't know why it's
8422s	there but
8423s	it's just chilling
8425s	here's four no we always have this
8427s	problem on stream when we jump into
8428s	these ram games you see one game of
8430s	hearthstone
8431s	like this has got him to four and oh
8433s	it's obviously working fine
8437s	but still
8439s	there's a more dress there
8450s	can't let spring draw any more cards
8452s	right
8454s	actually illegal
8469s	okay
8471s	all right we're looking for another
8472s	alexstrasza's just end the game we're
8474s	looking for a howler to basically end
8477s	the game as well i know it's so
8479s	ridiculous isn't it because it's double
8484s	oh no just get pinged
8488s	more dresses nothing on these boys
8495s	being with the ping for the win
8497s	goes to three uh five and
8500s	as somebody may have said at the start
8501s	of the match
8502s	[Music]
8504s	and looking good for it
8509s	yeah
8510s	i think very very well played by spring
8512s	there on the druid it was
8514s	a pretty standard game where you find
8516s	lady prestor uh and then the game kind
8518s	of plays itself from that point but uh
8521s	you know all points along the way
8522s	playing the bubbler on one i think was
8524s	the really weird play that not a lot of
8527s	players would have made because the
8528s	other play was uh trogon one which has
8531s	like almost become a meme for how good
8533s	of a play it is and he still managed to
8536s	uh deviate himself away from that
8537s	because he realized if you go troll on
8539s	one the mage doesn't want to play spells
8541s	anyway they just want to play minions
8542s	and they're probably going to be able to
8543s	trade into it very well so if you can
8545s	play the bubbler force them to ping on
8546s	two and then follow up by being ahead on
8549s	board without them having any minions in
8551s	play was uh i think very very clever
8553s	actually in terms of an early game play
8555s	and then like i said from there it was
8557s	very very easy but it doesn't mean that
8559s	spring is another one of our chinese
8561s	representatives going forward looking
8563s	very very strong indeed uh heading into
8567s	the uh into round six
8569s	yeah it's looking good for them once
8571s	again i think um
8573s	that the other regions have had the best
8574s	of it the last maybe two masters tours
8576s	thinking maybe everyone had caught up
8577s	with china but maybe not looking down
8580s	the leaderboard once again
8582s	plenty of chinese representatives in the
8584s	four and one bracket as well so
8586s	could it be ending up for another china
8588s	versus europe final but first that's
8590s	going way too far ahead of ourselves
8592s	we're gonna get ready for round number
8594s	six out of eight don't go anywhere
8604s	so
8610s	[Applause]
8610s	[Music]
8615s	in the darkest of seasons where ruthless
8618s	eyes gawk for horrific reasons
8622s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
8627s	with such ruthlessness
8629s	so deep and profound
8633s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
8641s	to uncover the truth
8643s	of murder most foul
8647s	the anima drifts across the floor
8650s	highlighting the creatures who walked
8652s	through my door the motives are as black
8656s	as night
8658s	avarice power revenge and blight
8664s	we watch the hero
8666s	uncover the clues
8668s	that lead to the truth
8671s	behind this dark rooms
8676s	join us here with the grimm and empires
8680s	choose your powers without heavenly bias
8684s	for at the end
8686s	they will burn in the fire
8689s	when it is known whose slave
8692s	tenathious
8693s	the sire
8695s	[Music]
8710s	[Music]
8717s	[Music]
8724s	[Music]
8792s	hello everyone and welcome back to
8793s	masterstorvish here we are ready to go
8795s	on to our round six match now i'm raven
8798s	of course joining me is subtle and then
8800s	honestly for this match sol it feels
8802s	like it's gonna be uh one that's very
8804s	thematic of the tournament itself
8806s	because on one hand we do have gabby a
8808s	well-known player of course who's
8810s	running a lot of these sort of
8811s	questionable decks the ones i unproven
8814s	decks at least for now um and then his
8817s	opponent running more of the aggro style
8819s	that we've seen with the likes of uh the
8821s	demon hunter the wig priest and rogue
8824s	itself so a very interesting matchup and
8827s	i think for me like i said the story of
8829s	the tournament when lineups are
8830s	concerned
8832s	yeah interesting to see how this lineup
8833s	from gabby plays out he does have the
8836s	presto druid which um spot on in my
8838s	opinion it surprised me to see prestor
8841s	druid be the under-represented druid
8844s	archetype there was actually more people
8845s	that brought a lineman druid than
8847s	prestor druid
8848s	i think we had a pretty good
8849s	demonstration just in that very last
8852s	wrap-up game of what presto druid can do
8854s	and does do pretty consistently you
8857s	don't have to go
8858s	triple alexstrasza double matron every
8860s	game but everything up until that point
8862s	where you get early prestor start
8863s	popping off that happens with incredible
8865s	consistency consistency that is above
8868s	and beyond what the alignment version
8869s	does in my opinion so i like the prestor
8873s	being included the warlock however the
8875s	cursed warlock i still remain
8877s	unconvinced on i think it has
8880s	holes in it i think the lack of
8881s	consistency that comes from playing 40
8883s	cards is something that can be exploited
8885s	and i think we've seen
8887s	the likes of fel dh wig priest mek
8891s	paladin
8892s	aggro kind of performing a little bit
8894s	better against these heavy control decks
8895s	than we might have expected going into
8897s	it so yeah i think gabby's gonna have to
8899s	put on a performance to find his way out
8901s	of this but gabby always does you can
8904s	honestly rock up to a masters tour and
8906s	say it doesn't really matter that much
8907s	what gabby's lineup is because
8910s	there's one player that does seem to
8911s	have plot armor in hearthstone it is
8913s	gabby right now he just seems to find a
8915s	way to make it happen yeah and to an
8917s	extent at least from what you were just
8919s	talking about it looks like gabby's
8920s	arguably been helped a little bit as his
8922s	warlock is actually going to be banned
8924s	out and the uh the big spell mage is
8926s	going to be banned out from viper mateo
8928s	which i do think makes a lot of sense
8930s	again if gab is going for a slightly
8932s	slower uh lineup in general than the big
8935s	spell mage is one that sort of beats up
8937s	on slower decks because it can just pop
8940s	off a little bit earlier so very
8942s	interesting matchups here we've got
8944s	three aggro decks from viper matteo
8946s	going up against a bit of a mixed bag
8948s	because as you quite rightly pointed out
8951s	like yes the presto druid has tons of
8954s	incredible power late game with those
8956s	cheap dragons but it also has early game
8958s	because they're all cheap minions to
8960s	begin with right even the uh the old
8962s	tiny thing making an appearance in this
8964s	list so
8965s	it is one of those decks that i do agree
8967s	with you after i've seen it play out for
8969s	a while i do think it's gonna stick
8970s	around because it doesn't have to wait
8973s	to get presta to do powerful things it's
8975s	just playing a curve anyway and then it
8978s	does the powerful things which i think
8980s	really is for me the the strength if
8982s	this had to wait till turn five six and
8984s	then pops off
8986s	much much weaker versus these aggressive
8988s	lineups
8989s	yeah but uh i do think you know
8991s	particularly with the version of the
8992s	dave the place the claw
8994s	sorry claw fury adept which most
8996s	versions do i would say uh throwing in
8999s	the murloc tiny fins to this as well
9001s	like they're a genuine like aggro druid
9004s	starts with this deck that can win
9007s	board-based match-ups if they don't draw
9009s	out perfectly like i think of
9011s	the matchup that we saw in round one
9013s	where it was demon hunter with a bad
9015s	curve against mech paladin with a good
9017s	curve like a decent opening hand from
9019s	presto druid probably could have won
9021s	that match up against that demon hunter
9023s	curve that just didn't really fill out
9024s	the one two three just because of the
9026s	incredible consistency that you do have
9028s	with the minions overall so certainly i
9030s	think it's a very well-rounded deck very
9032s	flexible deck overall and i'm looking
9034s	forward to seeing more of it because i
9036s	think it is a little bit
9037s	underrepresented for my taste in this
9040s	tournament but you can see why right i
9043s	think there's
9044s	i think there's a self-respect issue
9046s	with this deck where a lot of players
9048s	have to look themselves in the mirror
9050s	and say am i really submitting tavern
9053s	brawl druids to the masters tour like is
9055s	that actually what i'm doing surely as a
9058s	good player i should play the big brain
9060s	celestial alignment deck no as a good
9063s	player you should play the best deck and
9065s	in that instance i do think that is
9066s	pressed or druid as random as it may be
9069s	in some spots it is one of those
9070s	interesting points with the deck and
9072s	i'll be honest it was something i
9073s	thought when it when i first played it
9075s	but we're talking day one kind of play
9077s	of the card coming out of course where
9079s	it is hard to get over the fact that it
9083s	feels like you are just playing presta
9085s	and then hoping you get good dragons and
9088s	that is arguably true as well you are
9090s	hoping you just get the good dragons one
9092s	after the other but the consistency of
9096s	even the average dragons and the ability
9098s	for true to draw cards means that well
9102s	you're not going to get all bad dragons
9103s	that is extremely unlikely when you you
9106s	know converting that many cards so that
9108s	combined with card draw means that you
9110s	can get to at least decent quality of uh
9113s	you know battle cries and just outcomes
9115s	from the dragons themselves and then
9116s	cash in on that so i do think you know
9119s	and i completely understand why some
9121s	players have gone this is just you just
9123s	roll the dice and see if you get good
9124s	dragons i can't bring this but the more
9127s	we've seen it the more the one as we've
9130s	talked about the ability to just curve
9132s	out to not lose against aggro decks is
9134s	huge and then the other factor of
9137s	you can make plays that you know
9139s	increase win rate a lot even with a bit
9140s	of a mixed bag of dragons so excited to
9143s	see how this does as we continue on to
9145s	get more sample size throughout this
9146s	tournament but jumping over to viper
9148s	matteo a play honestly i i've not seen
9151s	too much at least personally but what do
9153s	you make of this lineup instead of going
9155s	for the big decks where maybe the
9157s	renault fell stuff this is just aggro
9160s	because this is much closer to lineup i
9162s	would have submitted if i was playing
9164s	yeah and honestly i like it a lot it's
9167s	very similar
9168s	to what we saw from habu gabu for
9170s	example where it's no druid very
9173s	bored-based very heavy viper matteo
9176s	um has a demon hunter i believe i think
9178s	habugabe is playing shaman in that spot
9180s	if my memory serves me correctly but i
9183s	think if you actually go through a lot
9185s	of the people towards the top of the
9186s	standings harbour by the way 5-0 again
9189s	if you are uh following along which is
9191s	incredible he is in the form of his life
9194s	like one of the biggest streaks that
9196s	we've seen uh in hearthstone history
9198s	really the first six months of this year
9200s	up until this point but if you look at a
9202s	lot of the other players around that
9203s	kind of mark there's a few of these
9205s	similar lineups where it's very
9207s	board-based they're they're not playing
9208s	the druid they're not playing 40 decks
9211s	they're just building boards and trying
9213s	to punish people for being greedy and i
9215s	do think that was a good decision i
9217s	think
9217s	there was a real solution that needed to
9219s	be found of whether you were supposed to
9222s	be scared of renathol as a potential
9225s	aggro player right was the line i don't
9228s	play aggro because renathal exists or
9230s	was the line heck yes i play aggro
9233s	because probably
9234s	yeah like you had to solve that problem
9237s	really really quickly and it does seem
9238s	more and more of the tournament goes on
9240s	that the answer was the latter but
9242s	actually just having these consistent
9244s	aggro curves available to you is very
9246s	much to your benefit it does look like
9248s	we have to solve a different problem as
9250s	we seem to be having trouble getting
9251s	more of the players in game so we are
9253s	going to go to a very quick break while
9255s	we set that up instead of hearing more
9257s	from me and so we'll be right back
9259s	hopefully together round started don't
9260s	go anywhere
9269s	[Music]
9277s	[Music]
9281s	[Applause]
9284s	it's
9285s	[Music]
9311s	[Music]
9339s	oh
9341s	[Music]
9374s	do
9380s	[Music]
9395s	[Music]
9416s	so
9420s	[Music]
9457s	so
9468s	[Music]
9522s	[Music]
9529s	[Music]
9535s	[Music]
9563s	now
9565s	so
9566s	[Music]
9640s	so
9642s	[Music]
9707s	so
9710s	[Music]
9766s	[Music]
9771s	[Music]
9778s	so
9792s	so
9808s	welcome back everyone sorry about the
9809s	slight delay just needed to make sure
9811s	all the players were good to go and i
9813s	believe they are now as i think they
9815s	have locked in their decks so the first
9816s	matchup we've got sol is going to be
9818s	that druid from gabby going up against
9820s	the demon hunter
9821s	in the first test what do you think
9823s	about that match up overall
9825s	yeah it's been a successful one for the
9828s	demon hunters so far in this tournament
9831s	um not a huge favorite but um above 50
9835s	for sure uh demon hunters still doing
9837s	what demon hunter does unbelievably you
9839s	know we were talking right before we cut
9841s	to the break about that kind of being
9843s	the big debate and honestly like kind of
9845s	the meta breaking lineup solving
9847s	question that you had to answer
9850s	was these aggro decks the likes of wig
9852s	priest fell demon hunter do they
9855s	actually stand up against the most
9856s	powerful renathol decks that your
9858s	opponents are going to throw up against
9859s	you certainly from what we've been
9861s	seeing in this tournament so far the
9863s	answer to that does seem to be yes with
9865s	phil demon hunter actually holding down
9867s	a 56 win rate so far against prestor
9870s	druid specifically in this tournament
9872s	um so that shows that yes there is is
9875s	still some uh fuel in the fire for that
9878s	demon hunter and uh i'm sure that uh
9880s	mateo will be hoping that long may it
9882s	continue
9883s	yeah 100 percent
9885s	a victory over gabby here would be
9886s	pretty nice not only for just the swiss
9888s	round victory but again whenever you can
9891s	take a win off gabby and notch that win
9893s	rate down just a little bit that gabby's
9894s	holding on to you've got to feel good
9896s	about things but
9898s	who did this oh physically sick why six
9901s	five three ah what have you done
9903s	something did this song oh
9905s	you anarchist what have you done
9908s	i go in order of importance okay
9911s	whoa
9913s	is renathol less important than presto
9916s	yeah
9917s	i think if okay if we're going to do
9918s	order of importance i think six three
9920s	five i think renethal is still more
9922s	important than guff to this
9925s	yep guff's the best card in the game sol
9927s	so it doesn't matter
9928s	apart from preston but yeah anyway uh
9931s	this again there's different lists
9934s	knocking around but i think very quickly
9936s	there was a lot of cards that people
9938s	just decided on you mentioned the club
9940s	fury adept uh tiny finn seems to be
9942s	adopted very quickly but there are
9944s	certain cars druid of the reef for
9946s	example like that's just a you know a
9948s	one drop that you if you play one drops
9950s	in druid you play druid of the reef
9952s	because it's so flexible and strong so
9954s	i'm pretty interested to see how this
9956s	pans out and now we take a look now at
9957s	the demon hunter does that make you feel
9959s	better or worse
9961s	oh that's so much worse what have you
9963s	done i just want to cover the phrase uh
9965s	tiny finn was adopted very
9967s	uh yes they would be if tiny finn was in
9970s	an animal shelter yes that would get
9972s	adopted very very quickly indeed uh but
9975s	yes uh i apologize to everyone at home
9977s	who is currently now unable to watch the
9979s	broadcast because their screens are
9981s	covered in vomit via the fact that raven
9984s	just refuses to do key cards in
9986s	ascending order like a normal person um
9988s	but we'll move past it uh viper matteo
9990s	here with the foul demon hunter again
9991s	keep banging this drum but it's a deck
9993s	that's been a little bit more successful
9994s	than i would have expected it to be up
9996s	until this point it's had to adapt and
9998s	ride with the punches a little bit with
10000s	a few nerfs that have come in um
10002s	limiting kind of the explosive late game
10005s	turns um obviously the the early game
10007s	pop-offs got uh nerfed away then some of
10010s	that ability to just um you know scam
10013s	out big demons out of your deck was
10014s	taken away so now it is just more of a
10016s	straight ahead curve out aggro in the
10019s	game with burst damage right there's
10021s	very few
10022s	um ridiculous tricks that can be found
10024s	with the deck but it's still incredibly
10026s	efficient at doing what it needs to do
10029s	as evidenced by the fact that it is
10031s	holding down a positive win rate against
10033s	one of the best decks in the game right
10035s	now yeah i mean even yesterday i think
10037s	one of the highlights for me i was
10039s	casting a match with demon hunter versus
10040s	big spell mage and the demon hunter just
10043s	face tanked a belinder on curve and just
10046s	won by a mile anyway right it's just
10048s	like it has that ability to just chuck
10050s	out an absolute ton of damage but we'll
10052s	see how it fares when uh gabby's gonna
10055s	be dropping early minions especially uh
10057s	the best card in the game right now the
10059s	pelican diver uh being a turn one option
10062s	for him there
10064s	um you almost delivered that in the
10066s	style of ronnie james dio then it's like
10068s	polikandova
10071s	jump into uh it gives a rendition of
10073s	holy diver maybe at some point right at
10075s	some point i did hear it a lot because
10076s	that used to be one of the go-to
10079s	background songs for every world of
10080s	warcraft pvp montage absolute banger
10084s	yeah and you can imagine why right
10085s	because it would every time it kicked in
10087s	with holy diver it would just zoom in
10089s	and then there'd be the camera would
10090s	spin and there'd be a big gray on
10092s	someone and they died it's like yep that
10094s	makes perfect sense but in the meantime
10097s	like lightning gabby already has the
10099s	early minions down on board getting some
10101s	of that board control here but a decent
10103s	pick up for viper matteo with that zero
10106s	costly the spear
10109s	gabby did tweet earlier by the way that
10112s	he's uh pretty exhausted during this
10113s	masters tour because he's been uh
10115s	exercising and dancing during his games
10119s	uh to try and sort of shake off some of
10121s	the nerves that we referenced about a
10122s	gym pom earlier but uh again bringing
10124s	him up again it's something that he
10125s	tweeted before his uh top eight
10127s	performance i believe uh so whether or
10130s	not that will continue now that there is
10132s	a camera pointed at him or not we will
10134s	uh wait and see
10136s	him i have to just revert to just
10137s	keeping the head bob going that's the
10139s	maximum dense moves you can kick out at
10142s	this point and the bot did get cleared
10144s	up though oh oh
10147s	[Laughter]
10149s	it's almost as if he can hear
10156s	all right well this is just showing off
10157s	at this point isn't it there's just too
10159s	many
10160s	i'd love it if he did this and robed
10165s	he
10168s	[Laughter]
10173s	send help and then gets dq'd for holding
10175s	up signs on
10176s	you see an arm come up to just grab the
10178s	mouse to try and just make a turn
10184s	well it's good he's got the energy at
10185s	this time tonight i mean is it
10187s	relatively it's late but early if that
10189s	makes sense uh in the
10192s	eu region at the moment so we'll see if
10194s	that holds up in the later rounds of
10196s	today
10202s	this point though there the goods are
10204s	there for gabby as the presto has the
10206s	guff help with that card draw
10211s	ancient power
10214s	so far decent amount of board presence
10216s	honestly the stealth minion there is
10217s	actually going to be great for killing
10219s	off this fossil right and just reducing
10221s	down the actual card draw from viper um
10224s	which is normally the big factor in this
10226s	demon hunter the way you you get through
10229s	like so many of these decklids we've
10231s	seen with jace and so many times you
10233s	just never even see it needed because
10235s	they draw their cards so much they can
10237s	actually just get to so much damage but
10239s	we'll see viper maybe having to play a
10241s	bit of a longer game is that there you
10243s	go as the amount of uh trades necessary
10246s	in this early game and normally quite
10247s	high
10248s	yeah and that's that's the question
10250s	though is does the longer game
10252s	necessarily exist in this matchup
10254s	because
10255s	the longer you wait the longer you have
10257s	the chance of something scammy appearing
10259s	right you know mirazon coming down
10261s	making a big board all in one turn
10263s	starfish coming down and turning all of
10264s	your uh small dragons into their giant
10267s	original stats even though one of those
10269s	has already been seen and that 40 health
10271s	break point is just such a problem to be
10273s	able to deal with on the other side
10275s	it really is one big factor here though
10277s	for viper matio is the fact that
10279s	they have slotheno plus two predations
10282s	plus many other spells so the choice
10285s	there to need for greed in the previous
10287s	turn just as a flat five mana is one you
10289s	never really enjoy making but you can
10292s	start to see the the incredible level of
10294s	resources that viper mateo has access to
10296s	now but the problem is and it's a it's a
10299s	weird one
10301s	there'll soon be so many minions on
10303s	board that slitheno acts more like a
10305s	bald clay instead of a damage push and
10308s	if that's the case then will there be
10310s	enough damage to actually win the game
10313s	i mean this is net level gap jamming
10315s	going on right now it's very distracting
10317s	from what is going on uh in the meantime
10319s	however are you ready for the next frame
10321s	from viper i mean have you
10323s	do you think you've got enough going on
10325s	here
10326s	technically a webcam
10327s	it is technical it's moving it's not a
10330s	static image for
10332s	at least it's not a static image for a
10334s	few seconds of every minute so it's
10336s	funny yeah i mean at what point does
10338s	like you know a digital photo frame
10340s	that's just showing a site a slideshow
10342s	of your holiday pictures become a webcam
10346s	i just quickly took some pictures
10350s	i'm moving i promise
10353s	uh yes for those of you who weren't
10354s	aware i don't think we necessarily did
10356s	explain what the delay was but it was uh
10358s	viper meadow having to find a webcam
10361s	which is uh now a
10363s	mandatory thing unless you apply for an
10365s	exemption for it from the beginning of
10366s	the tournament which he did not
10370s	now the spawn of deathwing going to be
10372s	nice just kill off that's the fennel
10375s	again just the board being built up now
10377s	and this is the issue right so thanos
10380s	just been and gone at this point it did
10382s	push a good amount of damage but viper
10385s	mateo has to work out exactly how he can
10387s	just deal with this board never mind
10389s	anything else
10391s	i see
10398s	really happening is it
10400s	yeah i can also see this this tournament
10402s	going one of two ways for gabby right
10405s	keeps up with the press-ups and the
10406s	looking cool and stuff uh or he actually
10409s	drops from the tournament due to
10410s	exhaustion um so
10413s	we'll have to keep an eye on that one
10414s	but yeah it's just not looking good
10417s	as i was noting to you earlier raven uh
10419s	gabby is currently trying to chase down
10422s	the 100 club the players that have a
10424s	hundred wins in masters tours gabby's
10426s	kind of currently in 12th place of
10427s	lifetime wins with 84 total as if he
10430s	gets so tired from all of these
10432s	press-ups today that he oversleeps and
10434s	misses around tomorrow that's actually
10436s	the key to masters tour success because
10437s	both alatemu and fury hunter who are
10440s	number one and two in terms of lifetime
10442s	wins
10443s	in masters tours
10445s	have both overslept and missed a round
10448s	during uh two of the last two masters
10450s	tour events that we've had
10452s	and that brass wing is just
10455s	brutal the heel
10457s	there from gabby going back up to 28 the
10460s	fact that it's a 2-4 as well so not the
10463s	easiest minion to kill when you compare
10465s	it to the average outcome of a dragon at
10468s	this point in the game for the druids so
10470s	let's see where these predations go
10474s	gonna get to clear up a decent chunk of
10476s	this does get multi-strike as well but
10479s	having to ship some of it into a one two
10481s	feels pretty bad considering the other
10483s	two minions on board would be much
10485s	better targets
10487s	does indeed and the hits are not going
10490s	to stop coming here anytime soon for
10492s	gabby with both a brood mother and a
10494s	calicos in hand khaled girls can find
10497s	the juice here you are generally looking
10500s	for card draw from your calendar some
10502s	sort of uh miracle growth nourish some
10504s	sort of mass draw effect really just to
10506s	be able to continue to fill up your hand
10508s	absolute gas
10513s	was that moonlight guidance off the top
10515s	all right that'll do very nicely
10517s	[Music]
10521s	whatever
10522s	whatever
10523s	we're done
10524s	move on to game
10531s	and honestly now like
10533s	imagine even if there wasn't all of this
10535s	carjo which well there is but
10538s	even viper matteo's deck like what he
10540s	has left is basically a curtrus and a
10542s	dream right and i guess the uh the
10546s	colossus as well but none of that feels
10548s	strong enough to actually end the game
10550s	especially now that there's the 9.99 and
10552s	all the air on board sorry and all the
10554s	treasures like this is just done and
10557s	dusted and it looked bad before this
10559s	turn even happened honestly highest
10561s	lowest yep you could just get there with
10563s	lethal guaranteed lethal all he had to
10564s	do was find a car that dealt damage that
10567s	was guaranteed to be drawn uh from the
10569s	draw highest there so if he finds book
10571s	you always draw that because it stays
10572s	natural cast in the deck you always draw
10574s	it he found pure cold instead so then he
10576s	just picked every other card he saw that
10578s	cost less than fewer cold so that he was
10580s	able to find it uh possibly the other
10582s	way around either but it was a very
10584s	clean set up in the end for gabby to
10586s	find that lethal uh honestly i wouldn't
10588s	have necessarily been looking for it at
10589s	the time i personally would have just
10591s	been staring at the choices going why am
10593s	i having to pick here why is my opponent
10596s	is hard bm'ing me at this point just get
10598s	out the game you've lost stop making me
10600s	make decisions on what kazakhstan cards
10603s	i want to pick but once again raven you
10606s	start to see the power of prestor druid
10609s	and the sheer level of intelligence of
10612s	everyone that brought prestor drew into
10613s	this tournament and of everyone that
10616s	said beforehand that prestor druid would
10618s	be the superior druid
10620s	i can't really argue with that based on
10622s	factual results uh but you do see here i
10625s	think was a good highlight of the the
10628s	fact that that druid gets to play stuff
10630s	in the early game like historically a
10632s	lot of the time druid has not been
10634s	playing stuff that's the weakness the
10636s	first four turns of most druid games
10638s	historically a passing or you know
10640s	ramping manner and such and that's the
10642s	the window that most decks try and go
10644s	through but that's just not the case and
10646s	the fact that um
10648s	that viper mateo had to keep up and like
10651s	fight for bald in the first few turns
10653s	meant that he never really got far
10654s	enough ahead to just be able to freely
10656s	push damage to face so really really
10658s	rough game one there for viper matio and
10660s	it looks like now gabby's going to be
10662s	locking in the big spell mage and again
10665s	as i often do in a lot of things i'm the
10667s	polar opposite of florinda with thoughts
10669s	about this deck i can accept it's okay i
10672s	don't know if the fact i just don't
10673s	really like playing it is why i think
10676s	it's worse than it may be but i
10678s	definitely don't think it's as good as
10680s	maybe the uh the volume of players that
10682s	have chosen to bring it dictates
10686s	yeah that's possible i mean i respect
10687s	the deck i do think it's very
10690s	powerful in general um i think in your
10693s	reference i think what lorinda said to
10694s	us it was the best deck in the game
10696s	right now going into this tournament or
10698s	the best bring or the number one deck
10699s	like for something along those lines
10701s	like first name on the team sheet kind
10703s	of deal which yeah i would disagree with
10705s	quite strongly i definitely think there
10708s	are
10708s	lineups that work with big spell wage a
10711s	big smell mage big smell mage those are
10713s	the words that came out of my mind the
10715s	deck does stink to be fair so i'm not
10717s	sure about that um yeah big spell mage
10720s	certainly has its place
10722s	um i think again
10724s	credit to habu gabu which it always
10727s	makes me think right because
10730s	when taste makers when influencers in
10733s	the truest sense of the word right like
10735s	not the stupid 2022 definition of the
10737s	word influences but like genuinely
10740s	people who influence thought patterns
10742s	within a community like a top player
10744s	like habugabu does when he's like given
10747s	a reputation as someone who finds decks
10749s	and breaks metas
10750s	can you just play anything and then just
10753s	kind of the hive mind of ev of all the
10755s	good players in the game then trying out
10757s	that deck will then bring up the level
10760s	of play with that there can refine the
10762s	deck with the right tech cards and so on
10764s	to the point where it just becomes a
10766s	good deck by a sheer force of will
10768s	people decided it was yeah yeah right
10770s	right like it is kind of a weird
10772s	phenomenon though i'd quite like habu
10773s	gabu to just test at some point like do
10776s	a full how do we know he hasn't already
10778s	yeah no that's exactly it we don't and
10780s	this might be getting a very tinfoil hat
10783s	for my stand uh for my standards but it
10786s	is an interesting dynamic that you know
10787s	one player can have so much influence
10789s	over the last six months or so as to
10791s	particularly in the class of mage you
10794s	know which cards and which decks and
10795s	which archetypes are being played well i
10797s	also i think it's i think of it a
10800s	slightly different way as well where
10801s	just because habu can play a deck to top
10804s	legend you know like rank one or
10805s	whatever doesn't mean anyone else can i
10807s	think he has a weird gift because in for
10810s	example mercenaries when that came out
10811s	and people were really focusing on the
10813s	ladder trying to fight for the top spots
10815s	and playing
10816s	a lot of the same cop right because
10818s	people worked out oh this works let's
10820s	just jam that over and over again
10822s	abby just like
10823s	put six mercenaries in a list randomly
10826s	and was a top spot with it using
10828s	characters that no one even thought was
10831s	remotely good and and you just do it and
10833s	grow like yeah yeah it's fine it's good
10835s	why is it good it just is and like made
10838s	me so happy right because most other
10840s	people just kind of they maxed the the
10843s	the metamarks and then they started
10844s	playing pvp right whereas i just grinded
10847s	the game free to play maxed everything
10849s	i've never had this confirmed but i'm
10851s	pretty sure i was world first maxed
10852s	account in mercenaries right so i just
10854s	grinded it out and maxed everything so
10856s	when i did feel like playing a bit of
10857s	pvp the fact that harvey was like yeah
10859s	yeah this card that no one has invested
10861s	anything into that's top tier now and
10864s	i'm like
10866s	unlucky idiots guess who already has
10868s	every card in the game maxed out uh so
10870s	yes thank you for uh for giving me
10873s	momentary advantages
10875s	i nearly got excited then saul as viper
10877s	matteo stood up i wish he'd started
10879s	doing star jumps or something
10881s	it would have been perfect it would have
10883s	become the perfect series
10885s	but for every press of you you do i'll
10887s	do a star jump
10890s	it becomes a very very weird version of
10892s	hearthstone but we are into game number
10894s	two jumping jacks for all transatlantic
10897s	friends oh sure yeah jumping they call
10899s	them star jumps over there i'm not sure
10901s	i don't know i don't know why they call
10902s	them well i know they call them jumping
10904s	jacks but i don't know why you can't
10906s	stop
10916s	just to stop any attack shenanigans
10919s	from viper matia
10925s	yep various uh us members of staff end
10928s	up going what earth is a star jump
10932s	the thing where you jump and you are the
10934s	shape of a star in there there you go
10937s	makes more sense than someone called
10938s	jack jumping around
10945s	one card that i always found a little
10947s	bit uh strange in the deck for me which
10949s	is finley for this mage
10952s	i get that it's
10953s	in the more natural state of i don't
10955s	like this hand i'll change it
10958s	but it never feels too great or at least
10960s	when i was practicing with the deck
10963s	yeah i agree um i do wonder how real it
10967s	is or whether the whole thing is just
10969s	kind of bait because
10971s	the idea of oh well i've drawn the bad
10974s	part of my deck like you know there's
10976s	some patches in my deck and i would like
10977s	to put them back in my deck that kind of
10979s	idea that is basically true of just
10981s	about any deck in hearthstone right or
10983s	just any deck in any card game is
10985s	sometimes you can just draw the wrong
10986s	cards and want to swap your entire hand
10988s	for something different
10989s	that doesn't make finley good in any
10992s	other deck so why does it necessarily
10994s	make it good in this one which um i do
10997s	kind of kind of find interesting
10999s	obviously in the dredge warrior it was
11000s	insane because oh 100 specifically the
11003s	bottom of your deck was the cards that
11005s	you wanted because you were discounting
11006s	them but yeah it still remains a little
11009s	bit of a maybe in this deck for me and
11011s	double now
11014s	okay going face with the next one
11016s	it does get two card draws which is very
11019s	strong but look how far behind matteo is
11022s	again all right this is looking rough
11024s	deep water invoker coming out from gabby
11026s	solid play just to get that 10 armor
11028s	beefed up as well and just cycle through
11031s	the deck a little bit too and just
11032s	retain a board presence starfish can
11034s	just make a solid trade right now
11036s	and uh retain all the health on the rest
11038s	of the minions this is already looking
11040s	tough
11041s	via the matteo record
11043s	i love this from gabby though by the way
11045s	i think if you are going to play this
11046s	card in your deck you have to be willing
11048s	to just play it as a 1-3 in situations
11050s	where it doesn't hurt you which it
11051s	didn't there hand wasn't great it had a
11053s	couple of the expensive spells in it
11055s	with no real synergy to make anything
11056s	happen you would be set up if you drew a
11059s	barbara off the top but you know that's
11061s	ambitious to hope for in that position
11063s	to just get an extra one three on the
11065s	board and essentially just pretend the
11067s	effect didn't really happen just close
11070s	your eyes like turn around go do a
11071s	couple of push-ups and then when you
11072s	come back you've got some different
11073s	cards in your hand but you've got a
11074s	one-three on the board who cares yeah
11076s	and also the the sort of weird not weird
11078s	but added benefit of forcing the amulet
11080s	to the bottom of the deck as one off as
11082s	well
11083s	means that it's it's always there if
11085s	needed
11090s	and gabby just playing more stuff at
11092s	demon and not really great at clearing
11094s	wide boards anymore used to be one of
11096s	the best decks in the game if not the
11098s	best deck at clearing small wide boards
11101s	and now definitely not the case i do
11104s	wonder if this is just a coin turn here
11107s	it has to be mango yeah
11110s	in the worst part is this isn't even a
11111s	clear it's a coin and hope something
11113s	good happens here precisely yeah i think
11116s	as soon as you know one big minion
11119s	starts to come down you're in a world of
11120s	trouble and i think that's around this
11122s	time that it starts to happen so trying
11124s	to at least have an attempt
11126s	at answering this sports day before you
11128s	get there is relatively smart
11145s	we actually call them rising and falling
11147s	planks that's what yeah
11151s	old rising pool here though curtis as
11153s	good a
11155s	as support as possible to the previous
11158s	turn being able to actually fight for
11160s	board retain something now there's that
11162s	double predation there a ton of armor
11164s	still for gabby but viper mateo making
11167s	something happen at least
11170s	oops let me remind you who you're
11172s	dealing with
11176s	[Music]
11192s	okay
11199s	this is probably gonna cast drake fire
11201s	right
11206s	yep
11207s	there we go oh okay not the worst
11209s	dragons to try and deal with for viper
11213s	yeah but not done yet
11215s	unfortunately if you are
11218s	trying to get through all of this as
11220s	mateo there is another one to come on
11222s	the following turn
11224s	that hero power is going to be a
11226s	nightmare to deal with let alone the 38
11229s	health
11236s	yeah and weirdly enough even the four
11238s	one's annoying right
11239s	because it's either gonna soak an attack
11242s	or it will kill a minion
11244s	i'll never stop searching
11247s	going to sigil and vanguard at okay but
11252s	again we get into that point
11254s	once more where what are the draws here
11257s	is it going to be just jace and hope
11261s	each star
11263s	faux vanquished
11265s	uh gabby seems to agree with your
11267s	assessment he's nodding quite
11268s	vociferously in agreement
11272s	now
11283s	okay
11293s	guarantees one player has a good time
11295s	and one player does not
11306s	into tiny little pieces
11311s	okay not mega impactful but not negative
11314s	either right like just having the extra
11316s	freeze minions got the snowmen in hand
11318s	the counter spell and ice barrier live
11321s	and the additional drake fire amulet
11324s	from the remainder of the tower from the
11326s	previous turn coming out which means now
11329s	this time
11330s	viper matteo does actually have a giant
11332s	dragon to deal with
11337s	and the nine minor fury
11348s	oh and that chaos strike i mean
11351s	ever something feels like a done deal
11353s	it's that yeah i was gonna say without
11354s	the card draw it didn't look great for
11357s	viper matteo anyway but not being able
11360s	to draw a card that turned to at least
11362s	try and find something really was the
11364s	final nail in the coffin and this is
11366s	looking a little bit hopeless for viper
11368s	isn't it and i don't even think he's
11370s	particularly doing anything wrong it's
11372s	just the two matchups we've seen have
11374s	just been dominating uh viper mateo just
11377s	not being able to get hold of the game
11378s	with this demon hunter so far
11380s	and honestly like i was talking about
11382s	the gabby plot armor factor earlier on
11385s	sometimes it really does feel like that
11388s	and i i wonder you know how much of it
11390s	does really play into like individual
11392s	players mental that they know they're
11393s	going up against gabby and maybe that
11395s	just makes them play differently take
11397s	less risk take more risks like whichever
11399s	way it could end up impacting you
11400s	because so far uh matteo who's 4-1 in
11403s	this tournament has been doing well has
11405s	played fel demon hunter against prestor
11407s	druid which in this tournament has a
11410s	56 win rate for the fell demon hunter
11413s	and against big spell mage which has a
11414s	58 win rate from the fell demon hunter
11417s	and it's looked hopeless it's looked
11420s	like he's played two 10
11422s	match-ups and sometimes that's just what
11425s	playing against gabby can feel like and
11427s	it's a weird
11429s	nebulous situation trying to deal with
11430s	because there's no rational explanation
11433s	like gabby's good he's a top five player
11435s	in the world top 10 player in the world
11436s	for sure but he's not that much better
11439s	than everyone else that he can make but
11441s	bad matchups for him look unwinnable for
11444s	you that's not how it works but why does
11447s	it always look like that
11449s	it's just silly because like i said it's
11451s	not like viper matteo has made some
11454s	disastrous choices or some big misplays
11457s	to just throw you know throw away good
11459s	matchups it's just it just hasn't looked
11462s	fair honestly gabby now only having this
11465s	pirate rogue left and again i'm sure
11468s	subtle will talk about krabatoa this
11469s	game so be prepared uh saul's a new new
11472s	favorite card but it is going to be
11474s	going up against the wig priest from
11477s	viper matteo so if i post enough he's
11478s	like you know what demon hunter you step
11481s	over there for a minute i'm just gonna
11482s	go and hang out with my priest friend
11483s	and try and get this done at least get
11486s	one win on the board and again this is a
11488s	deck that i had a lot of faith in going
11490s	into this tournament i think it's
11492s	sitting at like
11493s	49
11495s	or something like literally just under
11497s	50 in the tournament so far but i still
11500s	think it's a solid brink and i think
11502s	it's a hundred percent bring if you were
11504s	going with the aggro route
11506s	yeah we were talking earlier
11507s	specifically a couple of players tweeted
11511s	very specifically that they felt like it
11514s	was wig priest that was letting them
11516s	down
11516s	um you know which piece is terrible it's
11518s	unplayable why did i bring into this
11519s	tournament there was a couple of people
11521s	who specifically tweeted that sentiment
11524s	but overall i was talking with gia in
11526s	round one i think there's kind of this
11528s	group of decks
11529s	el demon hunter prestor drew a big spell
11531s	mage naga priest that group is just sort
11534s	of like yeah that's fine if you have any
11536s	one of those decks in your lineup and it
11538s	kind of holistically fits your lineup
11540s	strategy as a whole you've probably done
11542s	okay it certainly doesn't seem like a
11544s	deck that deserves that level of
11546s	flagging right right of
11548s	this letting the side down it's putting
11550s	up decent numbers very very very
11552s	narrowly under 50 right now but
11555s	certainly based on our sample of what
11556s	we've watched it seems to be doing the
11558s	job that you've brought it for which is
11560s	you know match ups where it can stick
11562s	those big minions against decks that you
11563s	need to stick big minions against and
11565s	just be very threatening and
11567s	game-winning in those positions
11569s	certainly you know if you want a priest
11570s	deck to be critical of let's look at
11572s	boar priest instead which is currently
11574s	running at 44 in the tournament as a
11577s	whole really really suffering um but we
11580s	have seen that be the case in the past
11582s	where
11583s	ball priest as a whole underperforms but
11585s	then top eight has like six boar priests
11588s	in it the a players that get to it right
11589s	we've kind of seen that be the case
11591s	where it is the kind of deck where the
11593s	cream can really rise to the top but
11595s	certainly i do think just looking at
11596s	some of the match-ups like the ability
11598s	for the amount of decks in the meta
11600s	right now to put big minions like eight
11603s	health plus minions on the board which i
11606s	think is the biggest weakness that um
11608s	boar priest has and do it repeatedly
11610s	that i do think it is a deck that could
11612s	potentially struggle in this tournament
11613s	and maybe if you do have more priest in
11615s	your lineup maybe you're going the other
11616s	way and thinking
11618s	maybe i should have put a wig on instead
11620s	i do think that's a definitely a bit of
11622s	a factor as well with this priest the
11624s	wig priest is that there's definitely
11626s	games i i've seen i've cast where i
11629s	thought the priest was out of it that oh
11631s	they've lost and then
11632s	good players find ways to bring it back
11636s	and actually win those games and i think
11638s	that's definitely a factor that when we
11639s	look at these you know three four
11641s	hundred plus player tournaments that
11643s	there are decks where like outstanding
11645s	players will find a way and players that
11648s	are just good or very good i guess if
11650s	they're in this tournament let's be
11651s	honest and may just miss a little bit to
11654s	not help themselves in some situations
11657s	but we are going to jump into game
11658s	number three here uh is gabby gonna make
11661s	quick work of viper matteo and then uh
11664s	sort of finish this round a five and one
11667s	score and we're about to find out but
11669s	it's a good start at least for viper
11671s	with a slither spare at worst on turn
11674s	one
11679s	okay
11681s	well that's an opening you're not upset
11682s	about
11684s	yeah pretty best one drop with the best
11687s	one drop spell
11688s	indeed yeah and the radiant elemental
11690s	obviously is such a key card to have for
11692s	those big pop-off turns at some point
11694s	whether you try and stick it early or
11696s	whether you save for those big turns
11697s	later on uh gabby with double tradable
11700s	here can actually make a lot of stuff
11701s	happen he's getting the discount on the
11703s	asharan vessel as well so actually both
11705s	players are going to be off to some
11707s	pretty rapid starts here it has to be
11710s	said at this opening now with the
11712s	treasure guard the real bane of any
11715s	opponent is this one five in the deck
11717s	and raging elemental next turn and then
11720s	potentially treasure guard wig and the
11722s	turn after is looking very very strong
11725s	indeed and something that rogue outside
11727s	of krabatoa can sometimes struggle to
11730s	deal with which is early wide boards and
11732s	they don't often have good ways to uh
11735s	take apart multiple minions in the early
11737s	game yes we'll have to see how that one
11739s	pays off gabby is going to reveal the
11741s	grand secret that he's in fact playing
11743s	rogue now and not a priest i think it
11747s	i was
11748s	tricked you you have been pranked
11750s	back to rogue
11752s	i told you i got annoyed the other day
11753s	at the game client because i was playing
11756s	shaymin i made the rogue deck and then i
11759s	queued and it's like why is it cute
11761s	shaymin
11763s	and then i realized after the mulligan
11765s	that
11766s	i was actually the rogue i duped myself
11769s	thank you that is in fact the most raven
11772s	story i've ever heard in my life
11775s	you laugh though so it's fine
11777s	yep
11778s	uh space rock good pick up here being
11780s	able to play it for zero and of course
11782s	the uh the dumping of the mage spells
11784s	into your hand is of course beneficial
11791s	oh kind of spell kind of tricky as well
11796s	there aren't that many spells in this
11798s	deck for viper matio and there really
11801s	aren't many okay burning obviously wig
11804s	will be the absolute last card you would
11806s	ever want to burn
11808s	but even burning a blast like in this
11809s	scenario is pretty horrible and i think
11813s	viper
11815s	might try not try and burn it because
11817s	that sounds like a terrible idea no
11819s	matter what but might attempt to cast
11821s	something this time
11826s	sure you do i think because you
11828s	specifically have treasure guard it
11829s	might just be worth waiting one more
11831s	turn drawing two more cards potentially
11834s	off that one more turn and just trying
11836s	to find something else to deal with a
11838s	potential counter spell because as you
11840s	correctly identified you really want
11843s	both of these cards they're both so core
11846s	to your potential win condition here of
11847s	ending the game quickly uh with the
11849s	combinations but now i'm afraid probably
11852s	a little bit too long to wait so he is
11854s	going to go in gets the bad news that
11856s	the bless is going to get countered he
11858s	can at the very least dump a whole lot
11861s	of wigs this turn
11863s	yep having a priestess is absolutely
11865s	huge here
11867s	just
11868s	oh okay
11869s	gonna go a little bit slower
11871s	yeah because actually he would need to
11874s	play another naga before the wig anyway
11877s	which he would do with the velish but
11878s	then from that point he's not getting
11880s	enough mana back to play anything else
11882s	anyway because he's not playing an
11884s	additional wig before playing the leash
11887s	so he doesn't actually end up refreshing
11888s	that much manner so probably a
11890s	worthwhile idea here just to hold on for
11892s	one additional turn yeah that was the
11894s	hover over the handmaiden right just
11896s	checking like hang on a minute how much
11897s	money will i actually get can i play
11899s	handmade and so on uh there is a gun
11901s	fishing now for gabby so he can
11903s	dig out the extra boats if required
11912s	he'll have to be a little bit wary
11914s	now he's doing okay knows he can get the
11916s	extra three threes but you don't want to
11918s	put yourself in a position where yeah
11920s	okay you got some three threes but
11922s	you're just dead in a turn also
11926s	there's scabs which is a pretty big deal
11929s	if he can get to it they're bouncing any
11931s	minions that have stuck around with a
11932s	lot of help
11934s	yeah also uh blade master akani as well
11936s	which can be a really big deal
11938s	especially considering he saw his
11940s	opponent
11941s	willingly use a bless to test for
11943s	counter spell which kind of limits the
11945s	number of spells that you expect your
11946s	opponent to have in hand at this point
11948s	anybody
11953s	yes
11954s	deliverance
11967s	looks like viper should be up to a
11969s	queen's guard okay right
11974s	oh it's only two for some reason i
11975s	thought he'd be up at three so yeah
11977s	never mind you do want to prioritize the
11979s	wig
11982s	take me pick me
11985s	a little bit rough here for gabby
11988s	so much damage on board with the slither
11990s	spear from turn one
12007s	oh is he gonna step and then play two
12010s	i guess
12014s	yeah makes sense
12017s	has to find it out from somewhere and
12019s	that was the only real way to make
12020s	himself a three health minion
12023s	yeah it doesn't look good enough to me
12025s	it looks like viper matteo is not going
12028s	to get throwed in this round takes a
12030s	victory there with the priest over gabby
12032s	and uh he just gabby just couldn't get
12034s	answers right the slither spear again
12036s	with the uh
12038s	[Music]
12039s	with the wig was just such a strong
12042s	opening it's exactly what you want
12044s	because the high health already minion
12046s	it stacks damage anyway and it's just an
12048s	easy activator for that first wig makes
12050s	it very difficult to clear up proven by
12052s	the fact that it survived all game even
12055s	with the counter spell even with some
12056s	tricks that gabby tried to throw out
12058s	there to cause some havoc i think it was
12060s	just too much to handle so a good win
12062s	there for viper means he isn't gonna get
12064s	three oh and gets a win with that priest
12066s	looking strong
12068s	yeah and if you're gonna have that kind
12070s	of style go up against you as the rogue
12073s	you probably are looking for some sort
12075s	of thief effect to find your way out of
12077s	it right like may you know jack hex and
12080s	shadow step to deal with a big minion
12082s	that your opponent has like anything
12084s	along those lines uh even just you know
12086s	four three rush for cheap just being
12088s	able to clear up a minion before it gets
12090s	too big and start scaling out of control
12092s	anything along those lines but really
12095s	like the generic
12096s	rogue cards that are part of your rogue
12098s	part of the package you usually don't do
12101s	enough unless you get a very explosive
12104s	null start which gabby was not able to
12106s	get like with dog with that double
12108s	tradable opening with cutlass and with
12110s	the viper already in the opening hand if
12112s	he was able to just trade a couple of
12114s	those away pick up a null they would
12115s	have been incredibly cheap incredibly
12117s	quickly and that trading power probably
12119s	would have allowed gabby the time needed
12121s	probably buy exactly those two extra
12123s	turns that you then need to play scabs
12125s	and potentially
12126s	right but without that i think you have
12128s	to rely on something a little bit scammy
12130s	from the thief package instead yeah
12132s	because that's the road card that can do
12134s	something right scabbed you just bounce
12136s	the minions back then they have to try
12137s	and build them back up again which is a
12139s	lot harder to do the second time but
12141s	yeah not too uh not fast enough there
12143s	for gabby to get to the scabs at that
12146s	point it looks like viper matteo is
12147s	going back to the demon hunter now to go
12150s	up against the rogue again a bit of a
12152s	close matchup at least in my experience
12155s	uh but it does again rely on the the
12158s	demon hunter just getting hold of an
12159s	early weapon and just getting those
12161s	trade uh options to be able to fight
12163s	versus the potential nulls
12166s	well if you're a viper matteo fan i've
12169s	got good news and bad news for you uh
12171s	based in this tournament it is 33 and 13
12175s	for the rogue specifically
12177s	39 win rate for demon hunter however the
12181s	good news the silver lining is uh viper
12184s	mateo has already played two good
12185s	matchups with his demon hunter and lost
12187s	them both so it seems now playing the
12189s	bad matchup he is clearly going to win
12192s	because that's just how things work yeah
12194s	i mean at least just look at this
12196s	opening right this is exactly what you
12198s	want get on board first go wide have
12201s	some removal options that he has with
12202s	this fel barrage and application as well
12205s	so it's looking as strong as it can look
12208s	we'll just have to see if it's strong
12210s	enough looks like it's going to be null
12212s	and shadow stuff i think from there gary
12214s	having to respond to this amount of
12216s	bored pressure coming out right now
12218s	yeah it still costs one in the hand
12219s	though so is not able to come down and
12221s	answer the board immediately which means
12224s	there's
12225s	yeah i'm kind of curious
12227s	if you were gonna do this play which
12229s	would be weird at the best of times
12231s	surely it's better to deal with the two
12234s	one first to prevent the two extra one
12236s	ones then coming out on the following
12238s	turn right
12239s	right it was yeah there was multiple
12241s	potential levels of mistake there right
12244s	which was
12245s	one do you even bother shadow stephanie
12248s	and two whether you do or don't you
12250s	probably kill the two one anyways now
12252s	there's a lot of those one ones on board
12254s	a little bit more difficult to deal with
12257s	well have at worst the dagger now though
12260s	mr stab instead
12274s	okay
12275s	i think this might be worth a fiori here
12278s	or well well need for greed first and
12280s	then review but
12282s	i was initially looking at the fel
12283s	barrage but the need for greed it's just
12285s	too good to turn down i think
12295s	gonna hold on to the damage and just
12296s	ship it all the way
12297s	okay i think you've seen both players
12299s	kind of lean towards this as well like
12300s	gabby using the wicked stab over the
12302s	dagger on the previous turn just to save
12304s	two health essentially and then viper
12306s	mateo just saying you know what i
12307s	actually do not care the slightest bit
12310s	about this minion that you have in play
12312s	right now i'm not gonna try and waste
12314s	damage with uh clearing it with a fury
12316s	i'm just gonna save all that damage up
12317s	ship it
12318s	yeah i'm okay with it i was very worried
12320s	that it was gonna be like a quad trade
12322s	with these one ones and was like whoa no
12324s	she'll do that yeah yeah i thought i
12326s	thought when the hero power went on
12328s	five
12330s	game five
12332s	one more time
12334s	game game five
12339s	though strong fell barrage going to be
12340s	able to clear up some of this as well
12343s	and now gabby has to pull something out
12345s	he does have the
12347s	rabbit tower though so that's something
12350s	and still a whole turn away here for
12352s	um
12354s	viper mateo to land the g-line
12357s	yeah that's fair
12358s	it's still uh a reasonable
12361s	surface level looking turn it can
12363s	develop in a variety of different ways
12365s	on the next term but with a combination
12366s	of fossil fanatic and the chaos strike
12369s	you would imagine
12370s	able to make something happen at the
12372s	very least next time
12375s	yeah they'll do
12381s	can always start with the cow strike
12382s	here yep makes sense just see what you
12384s	draw it could be the difference between
12385s	winning the game now and when the game
12387s	in returns time and fully intact
12391s	worth cashing the fiori because next
12393s	turn there's curtras hero power or uh
12396s	for extra damage anyway
12402s	oh like more than likely the fel spell
12404s	will work out better
12406s	yeah
12407s	and this now in response is really the
12409s	only play that gabby has available he
12411s	knows that the fel spells going to kill
12413s	him so he has to play okani to counter
12415s	spell and hope he can live their minimum
12416s	one more turn
12418s	he cannot
12424s	aisle ending cow strike first then hero
12426s	power face then fell barrage
12429s	yeah
12430s	[Music]
12431s	you love careful
12433s	aiming at the crab
12437s	i mean that's disastrous in so many
12438s	different ways because you bring the
12440s	crab down to two health yep
12442s	yeah very nice but still yeah clean game
12444s	there for viper taking a win against the
12446s	rogue with that demon until we're going
12448s	all the way to game five gabby needs to
12450s	do uh some more workouts in the quick
12452s	break we've got here to recover this i
12454s	think
12455s	yeah a little bit of a messy opening in
12456s	that game from gabby for sure um again
12460s	and as i set up this just seems to be
12462s	the way of uh matias demon hunter is
12464s	it's losing the good matchups and
12466s	winning the bad ones and it finds a
12468s	dream curve and is handed a little bit
12470s	of a lifeline i guess by the way that
12472s	gabby uh chose to engineer it not really
12474s	sure what the plan was for that shadow
12476s	step turn but certainly did not go as
12479s	planned in the end so that means that we
12481s	are now all the way down to game five
12483s	and a series that looked doomed for uh
12487s	viper matteo is now suddenly looking
12489s	like as good a chance as any that he's
12491s	going to pick up a massive massive
12493s	series victory over gabby
12495s	yeah and just taking a look here if
12497s	there's any crazy shenanigans with the
12499s	roguelist because they are basically
12501s	mirrors uh there is something that's a
12504s	difference i'm just trying to find what
12506s	it is it's a rust rot viper
12510s	instead of
12512s	something that i can't quite see for now
12514s	but anyway that's the the key difference
12516s	there gabby running the uh the rust drop
12518s	viper i believe in his list and uh gonna
12520s	be viper mateo not but honestly i can
12523s	expose you to the same deck always a
12525s	second
12526s	shot yeah gabby i i thought if i talked
12528s	a bit more you'd actually do the work
12529s	and look for it
12530s	[Laughter]
12531s	i mean story of the chemistry throughout
12534s	our entire career ravens i do my job so
12537s	you do yours okay it works
12541s	uh raven says if i just say some words
12543s	for long enough sort of tie it together
12545s	into something useful i'm sure
12547s	uh yeah rogue mirror coming down in game
12550s	five in this one and of course we've
12551s	been playing rogue mirrors for
12554s	quite some time in every level of the
12557s	game ladder through qualifiers through
12559s	masters tours through seasonal
12561s	championships um this deck has been
12564s	around for quite some time at this point
12566s	uh knoll has been in the deck deleted
12569s	back in unnerved nerfed again like this
12572s	deck has been through the absolute
12574s	ringer in terms of relative power level
12576s	in comparison to the rest of the decks
12578s	available but it does feel like this is
12580s	one of the biggest staples
12583s	of the meta game that we've had for the
12585s	last few months and the mirror is no
12587s	great surprise pretty well established
12590s	match up at this point
12592s	it really is yeah and it's something
12594s	that can really snowball out of control
12596s	and where the openings are super
12599s	important whether one player gets nulls
12601s	or not but also those sort of mid-game
12603s	options can help with recoveries if you
12605s	fall behind a little bit earlier we've
12607s	seen cards like uh having vessel into
12610s	gun fishing helped sort of snap back on
12612s	earlier uh defeat and then we've had a
12615s	crabatoa of course probably the ultimate
12618s	card right now at fighting back for
12621s	board when uh behind or just cementing
12624s	board when already ahead uh so
12626s	definitely we'll be keeping an eye out
12627s	for krabi towers in this mirror match
12629s	but of course it's all gonna start with
12632s	who has knowls and who can maybe get
12634s	hold of them quickest we do see shroud
12636s	of concealment potentially available
12638s	from fiber mateo but for me i normally
12641s	aim for just the full mulligan just go
12643s	all in on getting exactly nulls or you
12646s	know maybe with some tradables as well
12648s	i do think that fight for early board
12650s	has got a little more important as well
12653s	since the mr smite nerf because that was
12656s	very often your comeback mechanism right
12657s	is that you could play from behind a
12660s	little bit and then just go for some
12662s	sort of uh boat into smite or like
12665s	phillips shadow steps smite win
12667s	condition late game kind of thing but
12669s	because that is all now one entire turn
12672s	slower overall it's a lot more difficult
12674s	to find a win from behind in that kind
12676s	of position or any kind of weird scammy
12678s	edwin set up with a shadow step even
12681s	so it does seem like the player who gets
12683s	ahead grips the board spends their mana
12685s	curves out all of that good hearthstone
12687s	fundamental stuff uh is going to be the
12689s	player with the higher win rate overall
12691s	and as you are
12692s	rightly pointing out
12694s	uh the ability to just play
12696s	dolls as early as possible is quite
12698s	often crucial to that endeavor
12701s	yeah and i think the games where the
12702s	player who drops the nulls first loses
12705s	is often because as you said they don't
12707s	have the spend your mana cards like look
12710s	at this hand right gabby's got a null
12712s	but look at the rest shadowstep prep
12715s	scabs terrible whereas viper has a null
12719s	and has tons of great backup the removal
12722s	of tooth or wicked stuff
12723s	philip in hand as well and also simply
12725s	just the shroud to actually be able to
12727s	draw more minions to cement the board so
12730s	just looking at a snapshot of the game
12732s	right now although gabby can trade his
12734s	null okay second null nice uh into this
12737s	to stay ahead on board gabby needs to
12739s	god draw off the top of his deck to make
12742s	this work
12743s	shadow steps i think
12745s	yeah looking a little more sensible
12747s	previous one
12750s	oh okay
12752s	i was initially i was just reading that
12754s	as oh am i playing this or am i not
12756s	playing this and then uh suddenly we all
12758s	caught up with what was going on seems
12760s	like uh this is mateo with the
12762s	disconnect issue just based on the
12764s	relative player reactions between the
12766s	two of them
12767s	hopefully we will get back into this as
12770s	quickly as possible no one looking
12771s	particularly bothered like their entire
12774s	internet has gone down like i had
12775s	yesterday so i'd imagine they'll be back
12778s	in sooner rather than late
12779s	yet mode imagine so and uh looking at
12781s	that just where we were in the game
12783s	again matteo looking strong with just
12785s	the way his whole hand was built but
12788s	gabby did have then basically two dolls
12790s	to play out right and just grab hold of
12791s	board early looks like we're back in
12793s	just like that he did replay the null so
12795s	there is just a clean three five on
12797s	board but again like viper winning on
12800s	value here gabby winning on board let's
12802s	see who takes it that little bit further
12807s	okay whiffs a little bit i mean those
12809s	are two excellent cards don't get me
12811s	wrong but nothing immediately jammable
12814s	on this turn no second null for example
12817s	or viper to just play out and yeah gabby
12819s	ahead on tempo and significantly so
12821s	right now which means that as long as he
12823s	continues to draw things to spend mana
12826s	on
12826s	he will probably be okay for a few turns
12829s	this game that is about as big a brick
12832s	as they come though and now i think that
12835s	means that gabby has to make a little
12836s	bit of a mental shift here he has to say
12838s	okay i'm not necessarily fighting for
12839s	tempo anymore i have six damage in play
12843s	right now i need to make sure that six
12845s	connects to face as many times as it
12848s	possibly can because i'm probably going
12850s	to lose control of this fairly soon
12852s	yeah and that exact drawer of smite or
12855s	that turn was probably the
12858s	one turn of wiggle room he could have
12860s	got because he had the uh the null
12863s	dagger played just to clear off the
12864s	phillip and now there's just simply a
12866s	pyroblast or a bloodlust
12869s	or a siphon manner in it as an options
12872s	here for viper which one do you actually
12874s	like here subtle
12876s	you want to see krabatoa with some
12877s	bloodlust
12879s	i mean i do now that you say that i do
12881s	kind of want to see that yes but i do
12883s	think the siphon manor is the only legal
12885s	pick there i think the other two cards
12887s	are just way too bad in any situation
12894s	doesn't mean that with that turn viper
12895s	mario still hasn't dealt with this
12896s	second doll
12898s	gabby needs to draw well right now
12902s	okay
12904s	oh
12905s	that'll do
12906s	that we'll do pig yeah pretty much
12909s	exactly
12910s	what he needed the best tempo play he
12913s	could make to reward himself he's gonna
12916s	do a
12917s	little bit more exercise
12919s	the push-up pop-off rarely seen in
12921s	competitive esports but gabby is the
12923s	master of it
12926s	oh interestingly enough here viper
12929s	went for the shroud and chose not to
12932s	respond with his own vessel of course
12935s	if he did play vessel he would still be
12937s	behind but
12939s	still this just feels like he's further
12941s	behind
12944s	oh it was just the momentary pause and
12946s	arch of the back to look over the chair
12948s	to just to see if the turn had ended yet
12952s	oh crabby boy off the top gabby is
12955s	absolutely rocking and rolling and you
12957s	see the reaction from viper mateo gabby
12961s	back down on the floor at least a good
12964s	solid 10 more reps straighten that back
12967s	slightly that's just far too much damage
12969s	coming through and now suddenly that mr
12972s	smite draw that he found two turns ago
12974s	was looking like the perfect pickup
12978s	yeah pretty like i said he needed great
12980s	draws after that smite off the top he
12982s	went vessel while he went weapon into
12984s	vessel into krabatoa and viper choosing
12988s	not to vessel the previous turn yeah he
12991s	only lost out on one additional minion
12993s	technically but still it's just so far
12996s	behind now does have crabatoa to help
12999s	out but i don't think gabby really cares
13002s	because he knows he's always going to
13004s	just be that one step ahead
13009s	look at all the damage even this just
13011s	swing his cars
13013s	down to 11 now for viper mateo and
13015s	there's just mr smite
13020s	there is indeed never bring a sword but
13024s	honestly i think we still want to chalk
13026s	this w up to uh to the boy crabatoa
13030s	yeah i can't argue with that it's just
13032s	so much bored presence it's just so
13033s	flexible viper matia with the heart on
13036s	the old cam there good series i think he
13039s	did well after those first two games to
13040s	even make it this long because it felt
13042s	like it was going to be a very swift 3-0
13045s	but gabby the plot armor continues three
13049s	two takes a victory
13050s	in this series and puts on a bit of a
13053s	weird show for us as well um but they're
13056s	a good series overall uh there
13058s	especially the first two games looked
13060s	extremely dominant against that demon
13061s	hunter
13062s	and then of course rogue just tripping
13065s	over when rogue can right i think rogue
13067s	does have that habit just a little bit
13069s	but gabby taking control the mirror
13071s	yeah what a deeply baffling human gabby
13074s	is honestly like what what is happening
13077s	what has occurred this series what did
13079s	we just watch i have so many questions
13082s	and so few answers
13084s	i think i'm gonna need to go away and
13086s	consider this deeply for quite some time
13089s	well i have a theory that might help
13091s	okay i think especially in this last
13094s	game the dancing and all the extra stuff
13097s	that was added was just a smoke screen
13099s	to make us not talk about the shadow
13101s	step in the previous game it's like
13103s	they'll forget about that if i just do a
13104s	weird dance stream it'll be okay uh but
13107s	yeah i do think um
13109s	gabby's definitely a unique player one
13111s	of the best players we've got in the
13112s	game and is looking to shock horror
13115s	continue to do well in masters tours
13117s	it's just becoming an expectation at
13119s	this point isn't it
13121s	yeah for sure makes his way up to what
13123s	was it 85 wins now total in masters
13127s	tours he's done that in 17 tours which
13130s	is actually two less than the the
13132s	leaderboard leaders like the hundred
13133s	club have all played in 19 apart from
13135s	dead draw who's played it in 18 which
13137s	means he's done it at a win rate of 66
13141s	which is
13142s	right up there like now lee has had a
13144s	bit of a fall it was um you know rng lee
13147s	was kind of by and away the the
13150s	win rate leader in terms of significant
13152s	sample size players in masters tours
13154s	gabby is now basically on par with lee
13157s	as a two-thirds win rate that is
13159s	basically the peak that's you know
13161s	alatemu lee gabby the very very best
13164s	players highest number of wins highest
13165s	win rate overall that's the benchmark
13168s	win two out of three times against the
13170s	very best players in the world that's
13172s	kind of what you have to do to be a top
13174s	level player in these masters tours and
13176s	absolutely
13178s	gabby is just continuing to do it time
13180s	after time after time putting in great
13181s	performances yeah we'll know they'll be
13183s	checking in with gabby at some point
13184s	either later today or you know let's be
13186s	honest probably tomorrow at the rate
13188s	there he's going out but for now we are
13190s	going to go to a quick break but we have
13191s	more matches coming up for you from
13193s	round number six so don't go anywhere
13194s	and we'll be right back with some more
13196s	master's talk last year
13198s	[Music]
13205s	[Music]
13210s	[Applause]
13211s	[Music]
13213s	welcome to raven dress in the darkest of
13216s	seasons where ruthless eyes gawk for
13220s	horrific reasons
13222s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
13227s	with such ruthlessness
13229s	so deep and profound
13233s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
13241s	to uncover the truth
13243s	of murder most foul
13247s	the anima drifts across the floor
13250s	highlighting the creatures who walked
13252s	through my door
13254s	the motives are as black as night
13258s	avarice power revenge and blight
13264s	we watch the hero
13266s	uncover the clues
13268s	that lead to the truth
13271s	behind this dark bruise
13276s	join us here with the grimm and empires
13280s	choose your power without heavenly bias
13284s	for at the end
13286s	they will burn in the fire
13289s	when it is known whose slave
13292s	tanathius the sire
13295s	[Music]
13309s	so
13318s	[Music]
13322s	[Applause]
13324s	[Music]
13349s	so
13352s	[Music]
13370s	um
13372s	[Music]
13393s	welcome back one and all to masters tour
13395s	vashir where we're bringing you some
13396s	more of the action from round six in
13399s	which year i believe our feature match
13401s	is going to be a tale of two extremes we
13404s	have a masters tour winner on one side
13407s	versus an absolute beginner here in
13409s	terms of the uh the master source system
13412s	with fury hunter being on one side and
13414s	then road on the other with it being his
13416s	uh his first ever master store
13418s	yes it is veterans versus newbies it's
13421s	fury versus road who is going to come
13424s	out on top here we also have some
13427s	differences in lineup to add to all
13429s	these different parallels here it's
13432s	another boar priest versus wig priest
13434s	clash we have got um
13437s	two um celestial druids though so not
13440s	much difference there but yet again
13442s	we're seeing another warlock in the
13444s	upper echelons of swiss which i have to
13446s	say derek surprises me
13449s	yeah uh agreed you know i was not a
13451s	really big believer in the uh the curse
13453s	warlock especially not the prince
13457s	renathal version but it's clearly
13458s	working out so far full road and
13460s	admittedly you know when i start to see
13462s	some of the slightly slower decks
13464s	creeping their way more into the lineups
13466s	like seeing a fair bit of
13468s	paladin here and there a couple of
13470s	control warriors uh quest priest even as
13473s	well making its way through here and
13474s	there those are the decks the warlock
13476s	can really really prey upon but at the
13478s	same time we of course have to not
13479s	forget the uh the anti-aggra capability
13482s	there's a huge amount of removal stuffed
13484s	into those early slots and against the
13485s	likes of uh shaman as a kind of
13488s	mid-rangey board-based deck they don't
13490s	smoke you down quite quickly enough as
13492s	there's usually enough time for the
13493s	warlock to recoup some of their time
13496s	that way but with the rogue band on one
13498s	side for road and then the druid on the
13501s	other how are we feeling here uh for
13503s	both of our competitors uh factoring in
13506s	of course that fury is one of up with
13507s	the mage uh already finally
13510s	yeah definitely liking fury's odds i
13512s	think his
13513s	rogue is in a pretty good spot outside
13515s	of the bar priest matchup i think it's
13516s	got good shot into curse warlock even
13519s	with this renathol package um now having
13523s	its health total increased and then
13525s	rogue into celestial druid has
13527s	historically been pretty good as well
13529s	even with the runathol added in there i
13532s	would be willing to take the rogue side
13534s	even though i think that extra 10 health
13537s	does help the match up a little bit in
13539s	uh druid's advantage i wouldn't call it
13542s	quite favored just yet we are going to
13544s	see road queue up his renathol curse
13547s	lock first of which there are so many
13549s	tack slots you can take a look at he has
13552s	gone for the quest in here for the
13553s	mirror there's a sir finley c guide to
13555s	essentially re-roll the hand and i know
13559s	that there was a bit of an argument
13561s	earlier on stream as to whether finley
13564s	is worth running in certain decks if it
13566s	doesn't necessarily have um any synergy
13569s	with dredge cards but i would say finley
13571s	goes up in value the um larger the
13574s	average hand size you expect to be with
13576s	any deck in particular so big spell mage
13578s	and then for warlock you tend to have a
13580s	handful of 10 cards and if you get no
13584s	tams in no big board clear and re-roll
13586s	with thinly you're very likely to hit it
13588s	by that point
13590s	well uh i can
13592s	i definitely agree with you there and
13593s	hitting these very specific removal
13595s	pieces is very important against wig
13597s	priest in particular where just being
13599s	able to kill off every minion as it
13600s	comes down is very important uh so yeah
13602s	finley could be a key card uh of course
13605s	in this one uh the other big ones that
13607s	we're looking at as well are whether or
13608s	not there are starfish of which there
13610s	are two smothering starfish in the
13612s	warlock list a huge deal against wig
13615s	priest uh which is another one of those
13618s	decks that as has been said multiple
13619s	times so far uh the players are
13621s	complaining about a lot as it hasn't
13623s	been living up to their expectations uh
13625s	but the stats don't necessarily back
13627s	that up it's just been a very average uh
13629s	deck so far really hovering around that
13631s	50
13632s	win rate
13633s	um and so jumping into oh turn three
13635s	here
13636s	of this game uh we can see that things
13639s	are
13640s	doing okay so far for fury hunter
13642s	nothing to be too upset about because
13644s	he's got the wig in his starting hand
13646s	got a few nagas as well and can
13648s	therefore keep cycling through his deck
13650s	yeah looking okay for fury but rhodes
13652s	hand is way above average i would say
13654s	especially for a runathol deck he could
13656s	have removed the queen's guard even with
13658s	drag below in the trade of the mistress
13660s	which i assume he played on turn one
13661s	into tap uh but is going to hold off a
13664s	little bit has a starfish available and
13667s	crucially both customer and tamzin for
13670s	turn five into turn six curve as long as
13672s	he holds on to the coin which i think
13674s	should be a pretty easy task to
13676s	accomplish fury here going to get some
13679s	repeated value off of the wigs this is a
13681s	matchup that i do think is slightly wig
13683s	priest favored but against a hand like
13685s	this from curse lock i think uh fury's
13688s	got his work cut out for him
13690s	yeah i absolutely agree this is looking
13692s	fantastic for road it's just a case of
13695s	when do you go for spending your mana on
13697s	removal which is quite expensive here
13699s	you know three mana to deal four damage
13701s	it's really not very efficient at all in
13703s	modern hearthstone standards um so when
13705s	you spend your mana on that versus
13707s	proliferating your own game plan and i
13709s	think given that he has coined tamzin
13710s	available next turn that feels like the
13713s	turn to uh go in on
13716s	uh your own game plan uh verse taking a
13719s	turn off
13720s	of the removal uh but for fury hunter
13722s	here finding the other wig off of the
13725s	thrive in the shadows means that with
13727s	radiant elemental and two nagas in hand
13730s	he can have a really really impressive
13733s	pop off
13735s	he can yeah the amalgam represents
13737s	potentially even an additional naga but
13740s	he is lacking i would say a very crucial
13743s	piece of the
13745s	wig priest arsenal which is the
13747s	handmaiden to make sure that he actually
13749s	has resources later on because knowing
13751s	that there's double starfish in the list
13753s	even in a 40 card deck it can't feel
13756s	very good to go all in this early we do
13758s	see a road here taking the time out to
13761s	play tamzin even if it's not a full
13763s	board here we can see that the entitled
13765s	customer would have been a full board
13766s	player for six damage aoe but rode
13770s	prioritizes getting tamzin online the
13772s	card draw which conversely buffs the
13775s	customer on the next turn and makes sure
13777s	that he gets those rifts shuffled in
13779s	there
13782s	okay not
13784s	actually three pretty good options here
13785s	i can see the merit of all of these like
13787s	you're saying handmaiden is a very
13788s	crucial card to find so crush claw could
13790s	be seen as a way to tutor that out of
13792s	your deck while you're cycling through
13794s	all your wigs at the same time school
13796s	teacher for just maximum replaying of
13798s	serpent wig and then we've all seen what
13801s	queen azshara can do in her own right
13804s	right
13805s	i am kind of looking at crush claw
13806s	because it lets you weave in a wig this
13808s	turn as well and it's another shot at
13810s	handmaiden like you said as being a very
13812s	important school teacher
13814s	if it were a 5-4 it would look pretty
13817s	good i think just to play
13819s	on this turn pre prior to the nerf even
13821s	if you don't get to weave the wig in uh
13824s	fury going for that crush claw indeed
13827s	making sure to get wig value
13829s	incrementally every single turn but he
13831s	actually doesn't even commit the crush
13832s	claw this turn wants to get high health
13835s	on his crush claw enforcer but he will
13838s	sadly be met with the news that the
13839s	entitled customer is 9 aov given this
13843s	full hand
13844s	well that's true actually i was going to
13846s	say it's a nice position to put yourself
13847s	in where it has to be starfish to clear
13849s	off this minion because nothing else is
13851s	quite big enough but like you say that
13853s	is just perfectly
13855s	uh situated for road which means
13858s	now it's not actually necessarily a done
13860s	deal that fury hunter will be able to
13861s	stick a minion on board anytime in the
13863s	near future
13864s	as soon as he can then things look very
13867s	very good for him with wigs radiant
13869s	elementals plus a bless in hand as well
13871s	now
13872s	but just getting that one minion to
13874s	stick for a turn is the by far the most
13876s	important thing now
13878s	however he does find the handmaiden now
13880s	which is going to be active after this
13882s	third wig is played can refill the
13885s	resources next turn and because he's
13886s	sitting on double wig shadow devour
13889s	bless and radiant as soon as a single
13892s	minion sticks like you said fury could
13894s	be threatening lethal even from 35 or
13897s	higher
13898s	so it's up to road to make sure that the
13901s	board is clear every single turn
13904s	it
13904s	is
13907s	is it required to starfish this turn for
13909s	a clear
13911s	you could grow more of sacrifice no that
13913s	doesn't help abyssal plus trade is only
13916s	seven damage
13922s	there is tamzin dream drain
13926s	no touch
13928s	but
13929s	there's
13930s	double grimoire that can be used
13933s	right yeah
13934s	oil
13935s	yeah
13939s	i do like that he's reaching for the
13941s	times in here because the starfish is
13942s	such a precious resource this seems like
13945s	one of the more difficult spots to get
13948s	good usage out of the tamzin it's going
13950s	to be double drain soul grimoire of
13953s	sacrifice on his uh customer play down
13956s	the mistress and then play the other
13958s	sacrifice
13962s	yeah it's pretty clean isn't it to be
13964s	able to draw a card off of the uh the
13966s	mortal coil as well
13969s	instead of mistress this does just look
13971s	better and more value out of tamzin you
13973s	get the mortal coil to actually draw a
13976s	card as well
13978s	and that means of course that the
13980s	board has
13981s	been deleted again once again the onus
13984s	is on fury to be able to
13986s	stick that single key minion and he's
13988s	using a radiant element in order to try
13991s	and do that which is i think fine
13992s	because he has the second one in hand
13994s	which is the uh important factor to be
13996s	able to go for that one turn surprise
13998s	kill or at the very least like 20 damage
14001s	um and again it's just about
14003s	riding that wave getting that balance
14005s	between not over committing but forcing
14008s	them to use the starfish if they have it
14010s	uh to be able to clear off this minion
14012s	who finds the leash which is
14016s	weave in the other hand maiden if he
14018s	wants which i don't see a big downside
14021s	to i think the hand space will work out
14023s	after he dumps some of these other
14025s	cheaper nagas it looks like it's going
14026s	to be
14028s	close to an all-in push from fury
14030s	praying that the starfish isn't there or
14031s	if it is it's not accompanied by a clear
14034s	on the rest of the board which is a
14036s	relevant break point right on eight mana
14039s	usually starfish needs to be accompanied
14041s	by a six mana card to get the full clear
14043s	afterward
14045s	well now i don't think there's uh any
14047s	two ways about it this pretty much just
14049s	has to be a starfish if you want to be
14051s	able to clear off this board
14054s	right yeah i'm not seeing any
14056s	alternative anymore even though the
14058s	tamzin can get a free abyssal wave
14061s	it feels bad to have to give that up but
14063s	you just simply cannot leave this
14066s	radiant alive
14068s	yeah there's no nonsense with like zola
14070s	to get another one with all your spells
14072s	being a little bit too cheap um taking a
14074s	look down the rest of the list if
14076s	there's anything you could dig for
14078s	with the finley you know if you had one
14080s	more manner you could try and go for
14082s	gigafin uh as an out but again you know
14085s	the answer is in hand with the starfish
14087s	i think
14089s	now is as good a time as any to go for
14091s	it even if you know there is still
14092s	follow-up
14094s	yeah it's a bit unfortunate that he has
14096s	to end up silencing his own tamzin uh by
14099s	playing starfish but that's okay even
14102s	just as a minion on board it's not
14104s	irrelevant against uh wig priest
14108s	oh zola on the starfish i like this a
14110s	lot yeah
14112s	very clever sport yeah
14115s	it's not a full clear leaves a couple
14117s	minions on board but at one health kind
14119s	of a tall order for even fury hunter to
14122s	have to come up with lethal here it's
14124s	still definitely a doable pop-off turn
14126s	though i'm gonna start with the
14128s	handmaiden to reactivate the wigs
14132s	let's see how much he can get done
14135s	man i don't think it's lethal but
14140s	man it's a lot of damage it is this is
14143s	like
14144s	plus
14145s	eight from shadower devour as well yeah
14149s	yeah
14151s	oh man is it lethal even runs out of
14153s	board space i don't think
14155s	right that kind of felt like a trade for
14157s	me on the uh
14158s	oh he can devour it anyway yeah okay oh
14161s	yeah yeah that's fine
14162s	okay so
14164s	oh my gosh devourer now and and then
14167s	valeesh
14169s	yeah least just follow you refresh okay
14171s	seven mana that's plenty
14174s	maybe it is
14175s	i don't know it just keeps going doesn't
14177s	it
14178s	yeah
14179s	but he's at 38 surely not right
14184s	there's yeah now
14186s	oh my goodness uh
14189s	anybody
14191s	another wig yes
14194s	as long as he gets the blessing and the
14196s	face attack that's a successful turn in
14198s	my book
14200s	okay no freak out i think he got it
14202s	he's holding back on the bliss okay okay
14205s	that i don't know about
14207s	because you know there's another
14208s	starfish in hand like
14212s	i mean that's probably his
14213s	reason why right he thinks he can get in
14217s	another push whereas if he uses the
14219s	bless the actual threat of lethal is no
14221s	longer there
14223s	not sure though because that's the last
14224s	radiant used so how much of
14227s	all minion can you build after that
14230s	essentially cashing in 16 extra damage
14232s	sorry 18 extra damage was that less
14236s	anyway this is still
14239s	refillable for fury hunter we see road
14242s	with the starfish into abyssal wave can
14244s	clear everything or entitled customer
14246s	but i kind of like the idea of
14248s	wave here
14260s	all right you can make yourself one last
14262s	really big minion here i think before
14265s	road starts really trying to uh or
14266s	really starting to be able to lock this
14268s	board down
14270s	even if manor is a little bit tight the
14271s	priestess relation can be used to chunk
14273s	up that a little bit more
14276s	i was wondering if you could even weave
14278s	in the curse for the valish
14280s	like it's not net plus mana because you
14283s	spend two mana to refresh just one
14286s	but we see fury is not going to commit
14288s	the valeesh this turn i think that's
14290s	reasonable 13 health on the treasure
14291s	guard pretty much still requires a
14293s	starfish to deal with but there is the
14295s	second one naturally in the deck drawn
14298s	for road here that's pretty fortunate
14300s	with 24 cards still available prior to
14303s	the beginning of this turn
14305s	uh okay so there's
14307s	there's an alternative play there's
14309s	eight cards in hand right now so you can
14310s	tap up to nine play two mana knoll
14314s	and then
14317s	the entitled customer will deal seven
14321s	right so it's just short of being able
14323s	to get the clear on the 13 health minion
14326s	right
14327s	yeah
14329s	the good spot though looking for ways to
14331s	hold on to starfish has been the entire
14334s	game plan so far for road here hasn't
14336s	used it unless it was absolutely
14338s	necessary
14340s	[Music]
14345s	there's no clear so other starfish use
14348s	fury for the grimace obviously pretty
14351s	sad to see his third starfish in the
14353s	span of
14354s	uh the top half of the party card deck
14357s	yeah that's very true
14361s	all blown evil though unlikely to clear
14364s	off any of these cards which means
14367s	there's a lot of damage available it's
14369s	really just lack of nagas actually right
14372s	now for fury right so trade first that's
14374s	not a naga oh you can go nagaling wig
14378s	wig felice wig wig
14383s	and the devourer is a lot of extra but i
14386s	don't know if it's enough
14389s	yeah you obviously get the one final
14391s	extra activation
14393s	of
14394s	as well that you you know you don't have
14396s	to pay another nog you can just expend
14398s	them for the final time
14401s	i devour the car but because he needs
14403s	more mana to work with for all the extra
14405s	wigs makes sense
14407s	uh so he can play four wigs
14410s	and then a bless
14412s	i don't think he has manifest that
14414s	though right
14417s	tell me more
14430s	that was such a tough lethal because he
14432s	needed to fit the nadjak in as well to
14435s	be able to get enough health on board
14437s	with the devour to get there that was
14439s	such a perfect calculation from fury
14442s	man what a game
14444s	it was i'm trying to figure i'm pretty
14446s	sure there were alternate lethals there
14447s	like if he hadn't played nadja he would
14449s	technically have the nana to play
14451s	another way right oh yeah you're
14453s	probably right actually yeah but but
14455s	still like finding lethal at all in that
14457s	spot is incredibly difficult and it
14460s	ended up being exact in that pan out he
14462s	was right on the rope as well and that's
14464s	after three starfishes incredibly
14467s	impressive
14468s	yeah a a very very impressive game i
14471s	think fury hunter was riding that uh
14473s	that balance so perfectly where he had a
14476s	minion that demanded an answer from his
14478s	opponent or he knew he'd be able to just
14479s	lock out the game but never over
14481s	committing never giving them too much
14483s	making them uh feel a bit bad whenever a
14485s	starfish was used even if three of them
14488s	came down over the course of the game
14489s	and he was still able to get the win
14491s	there so a real master class from fury
14493s	on a deck that i think he is a real
14494s	specialist on meaning that he is now two
14498s	games up to zero having one with both
14501s	his
14502s	uh mage
14504s	uh i believe in the uh the first game
14507s	and his priest leaving just the rogue
14509s	left over now
14511s	uh so a very very good spot
14513s	right it does sort of clear the way now
14515s	for rhodes bar priest i don't think it
14517s	has any bad matchups i would say it's
14520s	slightly unfavored into the wig priest
14521s	so maybe that's why he was a bit afraid
14523s	to queue up his war priest before but
14526s	into the rogue i think that is certainly
14528s	reasonable it's a favorable for the
14530s	priest
14531s	after that if he does get the win though
14534s	it's still going to be an uphill climb
14535s	because warlock into rogue i've stated
14538s	i'm not a big fan of the warlock there
14540s	even with the extra renathol bumper
14544s	because those extra 10 cards you add to
14546s	the deck even with those um
14549s	health that you get
14550s	a lot of those 10 cards are things that
14552s	are not helping very much against rogue
14554s	you have the quest the starfish aren't
14556s	particularly good against rogue it's all
14558s	these tech cards that can clog up your
14561s	average likelihood of finding the real
14563s	important cards against rogue which are
14565s	healing and most important of all
14567s	dreadlitch tamzin
14568s	[Music]
14570s	yes yeah yeah that can be the the really
14571s	really important one just to lock that
14573s	one down these hero cards often just
14575s	seem to be so devastating
14576s	uh against rogue
14578s	as we can see the full-on standard
14580s	version of boat rogue um up against the
14583s	wig priest do you have any strong
14584s	favorites in terms of the uh the type of
14588s	rogue that you would rather play against
14589s	it is just like the all-out burn plan
14592s	better that you can go for with this
14594s	version or would you rather the kind of
14596s	high roll potential of the thief road
14598s	uh into boar priest
14601s	i kind of prefer the
14603s	boat version just consistently
14606s	being able to put forth boards and if
14609s	you are just aware of how you parcel out
14612s	the threats i think you can gain some
14614s	extra percent against boar priest by no
14616s	means do i think it's favored but i
14618s	think that having extra reach in hand
14620s	the potential to threaten the priest
14622s	when they're not um necessarily so
14625s	healthy can go a long way and also there
14628s	was the
14630s	option for fury to play filet fighter on
14632s	one which is something that i think we
14633s	saw habugabu do in this matchup uh he
14635s	doesn't go for it though which obviously
14637s	has its ups and downs like unveiling
14640s	your class on turn one means your gnoll
14642s	gets even more expensive later on so
14644s	maybe because fury had the null he said
14646s	i don't want to play a rogue card just
14648s	yet
14652s	seems reasonable
14654s	um
14655s	obviously on the shroud there are a
14656s	couple of draws that leave you unable to
14658s	play the knoll those are both of them
14663s	unlucky um noel can still come down next
14666s	turn and fully spend the mana with
14668s	philly fighter or extortion being traded
14672s	but that is definitely
14674s	not something fury wanted to see that
14676s	that being said okani on curve to
14679s	protect a board that you've already
14680s	built is not terrible right that's true
14683s	you take minion there and the only way
14685s	for
14686s	road to deal with the okani without
14688s	using a minion is to silence it
14692s	all right let's start having a close
14694s	look at this boar priest hand a lot of
14696s	the tools are starting to come together
14699s	you start to see these common play
14700s	patterns that you're expecting to do on
14703s	these coming turns and so around turn
14706s	five i want to say
14708s	four or five uh you want to start
14710s	hitting those pyro cleric plus gift of
14713s	the naru turns to be able to sweep up
14714s	the board and draw a lot of cards only
14717s	missing the cleric from that combo which
14718s	is i think relatively easy to find when
14721s	you have both the illuminate double hand
14723s	maiden and so for next time i'm thinking
14725s	most likely try and set up that handmade
14727s	and draw through to your cleric to be
14730s	able to clear this board um so currently
14733s	for road not too complicated of a game
14735s	plan as things seem to be working out
14737s	pretty smoothly
14739s	yeah it's great that he has the double
14740s	hand maintenance and one of them only
14742s	needs one more activation probably off
14743s	of the illuminate that he saved the last
14746s	turn but this okani is going to throw a
14748s	bit of a wrench in the works here
14749s	because which one of these cards do you
14751s	actually want to throw into the okani uh
14753s	the top deck that silence is enormous
14758s	yeah i mean it's so clean as well right
14761s	you can go
14762s	shard in order to clear things off then
14765s	you can go
14766s	illuminate nine cards illuminate yeah
14769s	you probably need to throw out the coin
14771s	at the end but i guess if you get a
14773s	cheap enough spell off the illuminate
14775s	you don't even need to go for that
14777s	was for a coin now
14779s	okay
14781s	no reasonable if um anything he can
14783s	still just play out his bore here oh
14786s	goes for the trade on the amulet so he's
14788s	gonna have to dump the illuminate here
14790s	okay i was wondering if just playing the
14792s	boar was too bad but there's always i
14794s	guess the fear of getting reconnaissance
14796s	nadjak maybe he's the type of player
14798s	that doesn't want to leave any risk of
14800s	that
14803s	i'm just going with gift of the naaru
14805s	here uh it feels like a card that you
14807s	can obviously synergize with zyrella but
14809s	it's nice just to have as an extra cycle
14811s	option and still give you then the
14813s	possibility of pyrocleric plus the gift
14816s	to draw a million cards
14820s	king's still looking up for fury here
14822s	gets to push minimum eight damage face
14825s	this turn gonna start with a trade on
14826s	the cut cutlass
14830s	see what's in the recon
14832s	uh
14834s	terrible
14835s	yeah not great probably for me just a
14838s	void gill because i was gonna say i'd
14841s	like to be able to spend my remaining
14842s	two mana on step akani uh as fury is
14845s	going for here and i thought being able
14847s	to fit that on alongside was a nice way
14849s	just to get maximum development whilst
14851s	also disrupting your opponent uh but i
14854s	guess it is just so much worse of a
14855s	minion than mounted raptor is
14859s	yeah i do like the prioritizing of the
14861s	step okani even though he doesn't get to
14863s	play the recon midian immediately we can
14865s	see once again just how back breaking
14868s	the minion counter is versus boar priest
14871s	in the mid game again there's no minion
14873s	that they really just want to or they're
14875s	comfortable serving up as father to get
14877s	rid of the counter
14879s	and with the silence used it's so
14881s	unlikely that he can
14883s	find the other one in time
14885s	so we can
14887s	potentially see
14890s	a pyro thrown away oh man that feels
14892s	terrible feels awful doesn't it yeah
14896s	i'm gonna dig with gift first
14899s	and even if you throw away a pyro right
14901s	you're not clearing the board because
14903s	road wouldn't have the mana to play
14905s	zarella after that
14915s	it
14918s	traded back i think the turn ends up
14920s	being a pyro thrown into the void here
14924s	unless you have maiden
14927s	right
14929s	because realistically you need to set up
14931s	for a xyrella clear next turn you're
14933s	taking too much damage here
14935s	okay so he is
14937s	saying that the handmaiden is less
14939s	necessary than pyro which is reasonable
14941s	even with two pyros in hand they can
14943s	easily represent more card draw than
14945s	three if a north shire cleric is found
14949s	that's true but at the same time for
14951s	rode now he is pretty all in on finding
14954s	uh that north shore cleric if he misses
14956s	it uh things are
14959s	very very disastrous uh for his mid game
14961s	plan
14962s	uh thankfully for him fury does kind of
14965s	seem to be whiffing uh on these draws on
14968s	this turn he hasn't found any really
14970s	strong um minion plays reconnaissance
14973s	with only three mana left over feels a
14975s	little bit flimsy as well
14977s	i was looking at wicked stab if that had
14979s	any implications for his lethal setups
14982s	because might start becoming available
14984s	next turn problem is even if you take
14986s	wicked stab and play at this turn you
14988s	don't have mana next turn for second
14989s	stab and smite so i think it is
14992s	reasonable just to take the cutlass to
14994s	keep cycling through the deck via
14996s	tradable
14999s	speaking of rhodes going to trade his
15001s	amulet first really praying for that
15003s	cleric still doesn't find it so it's
15005s	just gonna be the xyrella turn
15008s	which doesn't even kill the okani right
15012s	first
15013s	but i guess he needs it for the cleric
15015s	eventually
15016s	yeah i do absolutely agree i think even
15018s	though these turns have been a little
15019s	bit
15020s	i don't know i wouldn't say bad but it's
15022s	very very awkward for rhode he has had a
15024s	very very clear game plan right he's
15026s	known i need to get a big uh cleric pyro
15029s	draw turn and also then most likely i
15032s	need to have a pyro to actually win the
15034s	game to get the sword online at the end
15036s	of all of that as well uh which is you
15039s	know the kind of thing that you need to
15040s	have played a lot of uh ball priest in
15042s	order to
15043s	uh appreciate the importance of those
15045s	combos still trying to dig through still
15048s	looking for that cleric and still
15051s	missing with only 12 cards left in the
15053s	deck this now is just an absolute
15056s	disaster for road yeah he can't even
15058s	clear the krabatoa which is the perfect
15061s	response to zyrella gets more board
15063s	presence and also pushes immediate
15066s	damage road has thrive in the shadows
15069s	and a dream trying to count up if he can
15071s	kill the krabato if he commits a pyro
15073s	here um two three four damage aoe
15077s	available if he uses every spell in hand
15079s	with pyro still short of clearing
15081s	krabatoa so he looks for something else
15084s	and
15085s	doesn't find anything helpful
15088s	yeah i mean illuminate and then you can
15091s	draw into whatever you find but then
15094s	you've used the gift which means that
15096s	cleric is no longer even a really good
15097s	draw he's just trading back and forth
15100s	and back and forth and finding nothing
15102s	for his troubles
15103s	i do like the amulet kick into trade
15105s	because if he had found cleric here he
15108s	at least gets to go
15110s	for
15110s	that setup on the next turn
15113s	uh but this is obviously a very
15116s	lackluster clear here which fury hunter
15118s	will convert into a victory a 3-0 sweep
15122s	ending with uh taking an unfavorable
15124s	match up it's just very impressive stuff
15127s	yeah just a very clean series from fury
15129s	hunter we didn't get to see game one of
15130s	course but games two and games three i
15132s	think his reaction there pretty much
15134s	sums it up yeah not bad not especially a
15136s	difficult game there at the end uh but i
15138s	think very very well realized uh from
15141s	fury hunter as to how to approach it he
15143s	went for the shroud to try and hit an
15145s	early knoll missed but then was able to
15147s	realize the maximum disruption that
15149s	akani offered up to him was honestly
15151s	better than even getting down an early
15153s	knoll shadow stepping it playing it
15155s	again wreaked absolute havoc with rhodes
15157s	game plan which means that in his first
15159s	masters tour despite getting off to a
15161s	very very strong start things are
15163s	starting to even out a little bit more a
15165s	4-2 score line means he will be
15168s	hard-pressed to make it through to the
15169s	top 16 but if he can win out there is
15172s	still hope for him left in the
15173s	tournament
15174s	definitely so would be nice especially
15177s	for a master's tour newcomer to
15179s	immediately start off with a great
15182s	result but right now all eyes on fury
15184s	hunter all eyes on gabby all eyes on
15187s	habukabu all players who have had recent
15190s	amazing results masters tour wins uh
15192s	seasonal championship wins looking to
15194s	continue their streaks here at a
15197s	master's tour vegetarian it's a great
15199s	way to start off the fresh season and
15201s	see who will be joining us in the fall
15203s	championships in just a few
15205s	oh
15206s	can not wait i'm gonna be seeing plenty
15208s	more fury hunter as well i believe with
15210s	him in the uh the last call over in
15213s	europe as well oh sorry in
15216s	the entire law school from the europe
15218s	region uh which would be great to see
15219s	because i think once again he's just got
15221s	himself on four decks that are very
15222s	arguably just the four best decks in the
15224s	metagame and playing at a very high
15225s	level as well is the secret sauce that
15228s	has done fury hunter so well uh so we're
15230s	gonna go to a break now as i believe uh
15232s	round seven uh is all set up and ready
15235s	to go
15236s	approaching the last couple of rounds of
15238s	the swiss here which means that it is
15240s	crunch time for all of our players left
15242s	in the running we're gonna see who can
15244s	join us in the top 16 very very shortly
15246s	after this break
15256s	[Music]
15261s	[Applause]
15261s	[Music]
15266s	in the darkest of seasons where ruthless
15269s	eyes gawk for horrific reasons
15273s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
15277s	with such ruthlessness
15280s	so deep and profound
15284s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
15292s	to uncover the truth
15294s	of murder most foul
15297s	the anima drifts across the floor
15300s	highlighting the creatures who walked
15303s	through my door
15305s	the motives are as black as night
15308s	avarice power revenge and blight
15314s	we watch the hero
15317s	uncover the clues
15319s	that lead to the truth
15322s	behind this dark bruise
15326s	join us here with the grimm and empires
15331s	choose your power without heavenly bias
15335s	for at the end
15336s	they will burn in the fire
15340s	when it is known whose slave
15343s	tenathious the sire
15346s	[Music]
15360s	[Music]
15368s	[Music]
15374s	[Music]
15478s	so
15481s	[Music]
15515s	things are hotting up now we're getting
15517s	into round number seven this is where we
15519s	start to eliminate a lot of the top
15521s	players and maybe even find our first
15524s	number one player or first player who's
15526s	going to get through into that top 16.
15529s	and back again is derek brown derek
15531s	what's going to happen who's going to
15532s	win all those questions how's it going
15534s	everything
15535s	everything everywhere all at once yeah
15537s	it's going good still very much enjoying
15539s	uh the the breakdown of the metagame and
15542s	a lot of my favorite players are doing
15543s	very well in the tournament we've got
15545s	habuka and fury hunter both on another
15548s	cracking tournament so far which uh is
15551s	just solidifying them as two of the
15553s	greatest players of this year uh really
15555s	crushing it at every possible
15557s	opportunity moving on now to alex jp
15560s	versus quan wu though two players i'm a
15563s	little bit less familiar with and i
15564s	believe two players representing asia
15567s	pacific which i'm also very happy to see
15569s	uh some good representation from aipac
15572s	potentially giving us our first
15575s	eight-pack victor i know every time i
15577s	get excited every time i am
15581s	dashed in my hopes but uh it will never
15584s	keep me down i'm still hoping for that
15586s	first apac win
15587s	that's right doug you're with an
15588s	america's region caster here we don't
15590s	even get to the top 16 anymore so i'm
15592s	probably going to just join apac by
15594s	default at this speed um yeah i don't
15596s	know much about the players i do know
15598s	that quan wu made it to the top 16 of
15600s	the previous tournament though ruins
15601s	alterac so obviously um somebody to be
15604s	very aware of right now
15606s	and looking at the decks there's some
15609s	kind of funky stuff going on in some of
15611s	these decks um and by funky i mean a
15614s	throwback really the shaman deck in
15615s	particular for alex
15617s	it's the murloc deck without the murlocs
15620s	or if you like just snowfall guardian
15622s	deck however you want to break this one
15624s	down
15625s	uh yes sorry i haven't had a chance to
15628s	to look in the uh the meantime but that
15631s	sounds very intriguing it sounds a
15633s	little bit more like your experience
15635s	playing the murloc
15636s	in which you apparently never draw any
15638s	of the murlocs despite it being almost
15640s	uh you know like a third of your deck uh
15642s	is the murlocs uh but
15644s	you know i've got to say
15646s	i am skeptical right out the gate i
15649s	think that the murloc package is such a
15651s	nice inclusion in the deck it is just a
15654s	standard pretty good package with the
15656s	power of clownfish uh and the power of
15658s	moogle as well in order to uh get that
15661s	uh aoe damage onto the board
15664s	however
15665s	i can kind of see what he's going for
15667s	here um being able to go for
15669s	bioluminescence for a slightly higher
15672s	burn plan and also just the power of
15674s	multicaster to be able to draw through
15676s	his deck a little bit more consistently
15678s	consistently
15679s	there's something here there's a game
15681s	plan here that he's going for with
15682s	bioluminescence plus the scolding geezer
15684s	and the lightning bolts to go for a
15686s	higher burn plan
15688s	don't necessarily think it's the way i
15689s	would go but uh i'm very curious to see
15691s	how how it will work out
15694s	it's been working out all right for him
15695s	so far at five and one but looking at
15698s	this matchup as a whole i do think
15700s	overall he is kind of up against it uh
15703s	cuomo has bought the
15705s	the aggressive lineup the three
15706s	aggressive decks plus the weak priest
15709s	and there is an alignment deck on alex's
15711s	side and i believe it's a 40 card
15714s	alignment deck as well so
15716s	might have it to do to get that druid
15718s	out of this match that might well be the
15720s	focal point other than of course looking
15722s	at the shaman and where do you stand on
15725s	warlock i know that several of the
15727s	casting team aren't too keen on the
15728s	warlock deck as well
15730s	uh yeah i'm not really a believer so far
15732s	to be perfectly honest i think there's
15733s	not quite enough of of the field uh to
15736s	be able to reward bringing it uh
15739s	especially as
15741s	you know a lot of the warlocks
15743s	historically these control warlock decks
15745s	be it uh i don't know the
15748s	uh d6 warlock or a lot of the previous
15750s	ones as well that ran uh the weapon uh
15753s	like uh hand lock as well when you were
15756s	running everything with the netherron
15757s	and the the giants as well they were
15760s	decent against the control decks but
15762s	really a lot of the time they were kind
15763s	of just anti-aggro decks was their main
15765s	power in the metagame when you had
15768s	the ability to have so much early aoe so
15771s	much consistent heal in the early game
15773s	as well and i feel like the anti-aggro
15775s	capabilities are just a little bit
15777s	lacking uh in this meta game like turn
15780s	six to be able to go for the entitled
15782s	customer feels a little bit too slow
15784s	especially in a 40 card deck in my
15787s	opinion uh and so really they feel like
15789s	the anti-greed decks like any of these
15792s	decks that take too long to get to their
15794s	win condition eventually you will hit
15796s	the curses and finish them off that way
15799s	but for me that's not really a good
15800s	enough reason to bring warlock and i
15802s	prefer some of the more classic decks or
15804s	the
15806s	more obviously powerful decks in the
15808s	format of rogue-made shaman priest maybe
15810s	druid as well
15812s	ignore the title of this deck i think
15813s	burn shaman is definitely a better name
15816s	for it um
15817s	just just went through hit ace shaman
15819s	and press go because we're about to go
15820s	live
15823s	but yeah other than that you can see
15824s	it's the same package as any other
15827s	shaman deck out there but it has this
15828s	direct nicely described how those burn
15831s	spells at the top there just for a
15833s	little bit of extra reach which is
15835s	possibly proving valuable with this
15837s	extra damage being required for some
15839s	opponents this weekend uh but overall
15841s	i'm with derek um if i saw this going
15844s	into the tournament i wouldn't be a
15845s	believer but hey
15847s	five and one in a master's tour does say
15849s	that it's going pretty well and you do
15851s	still have all of the good stuff in
15853s	there that shaman tends to have
15856s	i'm just kind of curious how much of a
15859s	combo deck this plays out as versus how
15861s	much of a temper this place is because
15863s	the
15864s	the point of the murloc version is it's
15867s	just a pure board-based deck right like
15869s	you have some amount of removal but you
15871s	you play for the board you do some fancy
15873s	tricks with mutants sometimes yes you
15874s	have a little bit of burn uh with the
15877s	double uh frostbite in there but for the
15880s	most part it's a purely board-based deck
15881s	and it works very well at that with in
15883s	terms of its mana efficiency but this
15886s	one is it a deck where you try and fight
15888s	for board a little bit with the wild
15889s	poor cabin uh obviously with some of the
15892s	tricks that you can pull off with uh
15893s	command of neptulon and snowfall
15895s	guardian as well
15897s	or is it a deck where you end up just
15899s	going for like schooling piranha piranha
15901s	piranha bioluminescence
15903s	bowl and that's your win condition most
15905s	of the time that just feels a little bit
15907s	finicky for my liking especially in a
15909s	format where a fair few of the decks
15911s	have 14 health they have a good amount
15913s	of armor generation as well in the form
15914s	of druid healing for the warlock healing
15917s	for the priest as well um and so i think
15920s	that again in this meta game the best
15922s	finisher is not necessarily burst damage
15925s	uh it's playing at akani and locking
15927s	down your board
15929s	yeah i'm also a bit curious is that with
15931s	that double far sight that's often the
15933s	clue that you're hoping to do something
15935s	like that as well good point um so
15937s	you're trying to get a 10 mana turn that
15940s	ends up using 14 15 mana 16 if you're
15942s	lucky i guess
15944s	um so we will get to c so
15946s	interesting see just how powerful that
15949s	burn is at the end there it's obviously
15951s	set up to do a lot and it still has the
15953s	normal board control slash aggro don't
15955s	even know what to call that package with
15957s	the caverns and the
15959s	neptulon the guardian is it controlled
15961s	is it aggro it feels like it's both
15963s	sometimes
15965s	i think it is just mid-range it's a term
15968s	that we've kind of forgotten existed in
15969s	hearthstone but it's just playing one
15972s	strong card a turn and uh the power of
15975s	caverns the power of uh command of
15977s	neptulon is i think more than enough to
15979s	see you off against most of the other
15982s	board-based decks it beats rogue if
15984s	they're going null null and you play a
15986s	single command of neptune on the board
15987s	it's just kind of one at that point in
15989s	your favor um
15991s	and it can buy you time to lock down the
15993s	board or it could potentially buy you
15994s	time uh to
15996s	[Music]
15997s	uh to go for a combo to go for a burn
15999s	damage combo as alex is going for here
16001s	which i'm very very excited to see how
16003s	it works uh we're still apparently
16005s	waiting for kwanwu to select his
16008s	starting deck
16011s	there's a lot to choose from do i hit
16013s	him in the face hit him in the face or
16015s	do i hit them in the face
16018s	should i do today with the rogue here
16021s	so hit them in the face i guess hit him
16023s	in the face with the rogue which is the
16027s	thief slash jackpot vogue
16029s	yeah
16030s	which i think we still haven't decided
16032s	which is better out of this on the boat
16033s	personally i prefer the boat because i
16035s	played it more but that's not
16036s	necessarily the best way to judge a deck
16039s	i mean i gotta say it's the jackpot road
16042s	has been looking terrible so far what
16043s	have we seen like light bomb against the
16046s	odds light bomb uh you know the best
16049s	have been card draw exactly
16052s	it's been uh refreshing spring water
16055s	like where are the really chunky options
16058s	where are the summon a massive minion or
16060s	the uh i don't know miracle growth to
16062s	draw some cards as well or rune of the
16065s	arc mage or
16066s	the uh the drake fire army you know
16068s	these really really big high value cards
16070s	just haven't been coming up and
16071s	therefore this trickster rogue has just
16073s	been looking very weak it's like
16075s	a contraband stash to play one or two
16078s	cards tess greymane to just get you a
16080s	little bit of extra tempo whereas as you
16082s	said playing a mr smite and punching
16084s	them in the face would just get the job
16086s	done in a lot more streamlined fashion
16089s	yep um but then you know again the deck
16092s	is doing well in the tournament so we
16093s	need to see that's true if we've just
16096s	had a really bad selection of jackpots
16097s	it's more like um yeah
16100s	not a jackpot at all whatever the
16101s	opposite of a jackpot is just computer
16103s	says no star jump pop
16108s	that's going to carry on for a long time
16110s	now isn't it
16113s	jumping jacks
16116s	who knew
16117s	i knew but who knew
16120s	uh yeah i think this had um
16123s	sort of four to three ratio of jackpots
16126s	versus boats so the players did want to
16128s	go with this more again that surprised
16130s	me significantly i didn't expect there
16132s	to be none of this but
16133s	sort of surprised the players and sided
16135s	with it and again it may go back to
16137s	not quite knowing how many times you're
16139s	going to have to do 40 damage in this
16141s	tournament when we got into the meta
16143s	two days ago three days into the meta i
16146s	think maybe people just wanted that
16148s	extra
16150s	value in their deck to keep the debt
16151s	going when they made these decisions
16154s	yeah one thing i will say about this
16156s	deck that has persuaded me or much more
16158s	brought me around to the thinking of
16161s	jackpot rogue it's actually blood in the
16163s	water it's just a really nice kind of
16165s	middle cost spell that's just always
16168s	good it's never ever a bad spell there's
16170s	no condition that you need to hit you
16172s	just play the trickster deal three
16174s	damage face summon a five five as well
16177s	uh is always very very powerful to be
16179s	able to uh
16180s	uh get those stronger mid game starts
16182s	that i think the thief road was
16183s	sometimes lacking because if you miss
16185s	the jackpot the trickster was too weak
16187s	whereas this just always a strong play
16189s	well derek um nice conversation was we
16192s	are having a couple of problems getting
16193s	the players into the game so we're just
16194s	gonna take a very short break while we
16196s	get that sorted out and we're back in a
16198s	moment
16208s	[Music]
16216s	[Music]
16220s	[Applause]
16222s	[Music]
16246s	so
16250s	[Music]
16268s	um
16278s	[Music]
16319s	[Music]
16330s	do
16334s	[Music]
16367s	um
16369s	[Music]
16400s	so
16407s	[Music]
16413s	so
16419s	[Music]
16441s	so
16443s	[Music]
16461s	[Music]
16468s	[Music]
16474s	[Music]
16584s	so
16588s	[Music]
16596s	so
16600s	[Music]
16697s	so
16705s	[Music]
16710s	[Music]
16718s	[Music]
16745s	[Music]
16758s	[Music]
16773s	[Music]
16785s	[Music]
16793s	[Music]
16800s	[Music]
16812s	[Music]
16824s	and we're back sorry about the short
16826s	delay there but everything does seem to
16827s	be sorted as you can see at the bottom
16829s	there and they are ready to go
16832s	any final thoughts derek before we get
16834s	into this one
16836s	i love hearthstone
16838s	cool
16839s	yep um thanks for that
16841s	and yeah it does look like alex is going
16843s	to have his work cut out here but at six
16845s	five and one um
16847s	he's on the right all day against this
16849s	sort of lineup there's plenty of these
16850s	aggro lineups up there so he's obviously
16851s	been doing something right to get to
16854s	this spot i also love hearthstone
16857s	oh what a game uh and what a way both of
16860s	these players are playing it these two
16863s	glorious apex specimens flying the flag
16866s	for the entire region and uh hopefully
16868s	as i said before the uh break uh giving
16871s	us the first eight pack representative
16873s	like you said no matter how uh their
16875s	decks uh may be performing overall no
16877s	matter how they've been playing they
16879s	have done a very very good job to get to
16881s	this point in the tournament even to
16882s	qualify at all is a remarkable feat for
16885s	any aspiring hearthstone player
16887s	and so i'm very very excited to see how
16889s	this one works out especially with that
16891s	shaman deck for alex jp i really want to
16893s	see how that one performs
16896s	because it's just such an anomaly such
16897s	an outlier i have not seen this type of
16900s	shaman played where it has most of the
16902s	same package as the murloc variant but a
16905s	burn package thrown in there as well as
16907s	your finisher instead of the more common
16909s	uh just minions and then maybe a
16911s	bloodlust thrown in there as well uh but
16914s	for kwan wu on the other side it's much
16916s	more standard fare right he's got the
16918s	traditional uh murloc mid-range shaman
16921s	he's got the the jackpot rogue sure kind
16923s	of about even alongside the boat rogue
16926s	wig priest and the fell demon hunter as
16929s	well so i can't help but root for alex
16931s	jp somewhat just as the player bring in
16933s	the slightly more outlandish lineup
16935s	which is always a delight to see
16937s	absolutely everything i might try this
16939s	actually i'm struggling to draw my
16940s	murlocs directly if i can use these burn
16942s	spells late game i'm gonna be so much
16944s	happier i can just fire them out there
16946s	onto a nice empty face that's already
16948s	taken some damage that sounds much more
16950s	like my sort of
16951s	level
16952s	um interesting to me that these
16955s	aggro decks are just getting through the
16957s	field i didn't really expect it i
16960s	thought there'd be some aggro i thought
16961s	they'd do okay
16963s	but i am curious what they're playing on
16965s	i think it is probably the alignment
16966s	druid we saw the stats alignment to it
16969s	sadly for me with my usually great
16971s	predictions uh one of the worst decks in
16973s	yesterday's field
16975s	and
16976s	with with four
16978s	aggro decks and counting increases aggro
16980s	in this particular tournament okay yeah
16982s	you can see how the alignment drives are
16984s	struggling
16986s	yeah it's kind of
16988s	weird to classify it isn't it because
16990s	when you said aggro decks at first i was
16992s	like
16992s	i don't know what aggro decks but i
16994s	guess it's all relative right in there
16996s	right yeah roles that they feel like
16998s	these are not really traditionally aggro
17000s	decks but you're right they fulfill the
17002s	uh
17003s	you know they they fill up the hole that
17004s	aggro decks would have been in uh in
17007s	previous meta games where like rogue is
17008s	just kind of a board-based deck early on
17010s	shaman can play very aggressively as
17012s	well the wig priest like you say it's
17014s	just a threat check deck that you need
17017s	your opponent needs to find the answers
17019s	to very very quickly for you they're
17021s	going to die to it
17023s	and for uh quan wu here
17030s	[Music]
17033s	i think because even if it is that weird
17035s	shaman deck for alex jp
17037s	i do still think that the tools in the
17039s	mid-range package of um
17043s	sorry the
17044s	wild poor cavern command of neptulon and
17046s	snowfall guardian is just too powerful
17049s	of a curve usually for rogue to keep up
17051s	with
17052s	yeah so that with that in mind it'd be
17054s	interesting to see the mulligans one
17055s	advantage of bringing a slightly out
17057s	their deck is you know your mulligan's
17060s	better than your opponent
17061s	and he'll know exactly what he's trying
17063s	to do not that it's going to be anything
17064s	particularly that we can't predict but
17066s	kwan wu may make nuance to mistakes
17069s	things that he's not quite expecting
17071s	so let's see how this pans out
17074s	there we go that's how you're supposed
17075s	to do this
17080s	is alex gonna be able to get anything
17081s	down on the board but he's just got to
17083s	play
17084s	yeah he's got something he can spend his
17085s	mana on man these burn spells are not
17088s	doing it i would much rather these be uh
17090s	a clown fish uh and an amalgam uh yeah
17093s	about now
17094s	because that's what they would be give
17096s	or take
17098s	this is me which gets to be a mutant and
17100s	another mutant
17102s	somehow
17109s	okay so he's good to defend for a good
17111s	few turns that's one advantage i guess
17113s	of having the burn but like you say
17115s	if they were murlocs he'd be ready to go
17119s	the reconnaissance could be used on this
17122s	turn alongside wild porn all right even
17125s	though you wouldn't be able to play
17126s	whatever you get off reconnaissance
17127s	unless of course it costs uh two or less
17131s	um
17132s	[Music]
17133s	pretty bad options
17136s	they are grim
17140s	yeah i guess they kind of
17142s	you take your taz dingo and you be sad
17144s	about him
17149s	um
17151s	sure
17155s	probably another reconnaissance when you
17156s	have a band in hand
17161s	okay
17162s	interesting some trading with a shadow
17163s	set maybe
17165s	all the queen i guess
17171s	yeah now it's playing our piranhas
17174s	they come
17175s	from the amazon
17179s	reading two greens
17185s	might not sound like a
17187s	red sky at night shepard's delight
17190s	read in two greens
17192s	don't know what it means
17193s	there we go
17196s	i can't teach you i have to be insta
17198s	rhyme with everything or he'll just like
17200s	outwit me horribly
17203s	whereas i cast with gs so i never have
17205s	to be particularly intelligent he just
17207s	let jia do everything yeah yeah
17210s	that's not
17212s	talking smart taking that shadow steps
17214s	worked out nicely for kwanwu here it was
17217s	a good spot
17221s	maybe ahead on board going into next
17223s	turn and plenty to do going forwards
17228s	yeah it's really just a question of
17229s	whether you want to go for the dagger or
17230s	the uh the kodo on this turn i'm like
17234s	kind of leaning towards the kodo to be
17237s	honest just because like you get it
17239s	played
17240s	and then contraband stash becomes like
17242s	uh
17243s	a playable card
17245s	uh on the follow-up
17247s	once again
17249s	disagrees alex join more and more burn
17253s	like you say if these are murlocs this
17254s	game would be nearly over
17257s	not quite i like to exaggerate a bit but
17259s	you know what i mean
17260s	yeah so again this is the nargling so
17262s	you're
17266s	i mean usually i would say lightning
17267s	storm if it was boat rogue 100 lightning
17269s	storm because you need some way of
17271s	playing around the azshara vessel it's a
17273s	little bit tougher uh against the
17277s	def rogue i
17279s	kind of still think it is the lightning
17281s	storm just because you're so far away
17284s	from killing them like this burn damage
17286s	is just never ever getting there um and
17288s	so i think the board control route is
17290s	much much more important right now yeah
17292s	in theory you have a bioluminescence as
17294s	well to make that a board clear later on
17296s	yep
17308s	okay just doing
17310s	board and go like it does
17312s	oh man
17314s	what is this it's just all spells this
17317s	deck is disgusting
17319s	oh what a horrible outing for alex jp
17322s	yeah go on let's play that geezer and
17324s	just find something
17326s	let's play that
17328s	oh my god oh there's the bio but there's
17330s	nothing to put it on oh
17332s	it must be horrible like you're five on
17334s	one with your your slightly unusual deck
17336s	in the toilet it's like yeah i'm gonna
17338s	show them what i've got
17339s	it's golden geezer lightning bolt
17341s	lightning bolt geez
17344s	frostbite
17350s	it's disaster
17352s	yeah i agree
17354s	i do think it does have to be the uh
17358s	uh the brecan and then hope to be able
17360s	to
17361s	stall your way up to it with the
17362s	snowfall guardian into the core yeah uh
17365s	or maybe try and repeat the uh the
17367s	brucan with the brilliant mccor instead
17369s	uh but the problem is that even then
17371s	like you're just so far away from
17373s	burning them down you have done nothing
17376s	in the early game this deck needs to get
17378s	so much border control and so much chip
17380s	damage before they're even close uh to
17382s	finishing off the game with burn damage
17384s	yeah i had to burn the the piranhas just
17387s	on not a lot really obviously
17389s	in the world where he actually gets to
17390s	use those violinists he could have
17392s	cleared up a lot of stuff but needs it
17393s	just to stay alive early and now all the
17396s	things are happening on the other side
17397s	of the board one man a gigafin
17400s	it's just numbers i think you should
17401s	just jam it
17405s	i don't know why the thought of keeping
17406s	just like eating a totem is so funny
17411s	it's probably because it's 4 a.m
17414s	oh a dandelion
17416s	[Laughter]
17420s	well he's gonna have to kill it first if
17421s	he wants his totem back
17423s	[Music]
17429s	so you just freeze
17432s	probably
17436s	ah
17437s	what's he supposed to do
17442s	yep that's the correct response i think
17443s	from alex
17447s	please freeze again
17450s	you can't put a can though you just die
17451s	the turn you play buchanan
17455s	kwamu is going to add to this board it's
17456s	just going to get really really murdery
17458s	really fast
17462s	yeah especially with controversy gigafin
17464s	in ordinance to
17466s	bolster that up as well like we can see
17469s	a set up term oh my god krabatoa on this
17472s	turn is just absolutely perfect
17477s	good god
17482s	all right what's the other options
17483s	because we know it's crevator
17486s	you know i wonder yeah i do think it is
17489s	still just kravita
17491s	um it allows you to set up for like next
17494s	turn if your board is answered somehow
17497s	you can just go kodo contraband stash
17499s	which would get you
17500s	uh another kodo uh and of course another
17503s	gigafin which is more than enough board
17505s	presence
17507s	um i guess the the thing you have to
17509s	consider is what if they have another
17511s	freeze which they very possibly do in
17513s	the form of the core
17515s	or another snowfall guardian
17518s	that would be fine to be honest you can
17519s	just go for wicked stab wicked stab
17522s	tooth whatever you need
17523s	and take it out really easily i wondered
17525s	if he would do this by the way with all
17527s	the burn in the deck choosing not to use
17529s	his face to finish off the six attack
17530s	minion yeah i like it um
17533s	well again we talked about
17535s	you know not knowing so much about your
17537s	opponent's deck that was an example
17539s	there of do i take six is 22 too low it
17541s	smells a bit low let's let's not take
17543s	that six it's scary
17546s	and there in case you needed it is
17548s	another burn spell that makes jp has
17551s	drawn in this burn shaman deck
17555s	it really is like homer going to hell
17557s	right like so you like burn spells eh
17560s	we'll have all the burn spells in the
17562s	world uh-huh i'm not going to play this
17564s	i'm going to go back to the murlocs
17566s	changed my mind already
17569s	this sample size of one derek it's
17571s	convinced me
17574s	i do feel for him though this oh yeah
17576s	this isn't what the deck
17578s	like regularly does this is just
17580s	nonsense right now
17582s	give me back my totem
17590s	uh but yeah i'm right there alongside
17591s	like this is as bad as you could
17594s	possibly draw with the deck this is not
17596s	a fair representation of it at
17599s	all he's got another freeze on the top
17602s	as well
17610s	okay
17618s	i mean
17618s	need some cards it's massively
17620s	exaggerated but starting to run out of
17622s	options because they're all on the board
17624s	already
17625s	yeah you would love to activate this
17627s	tooth to go alongside the the contraband
17630s	stash but there's just no way to make
17631s	that happen on this turn
17633s	um i do
17635s	think you're fine with playing wicked
17637s	stabs to clear
17639s	um in this instance
17641s	uh there's a very very reasonable chance
17643s	they don't have any more big freezes uh
17646s	in which case you're winning the game
17648s	anyway based just on board
17650s	and i think
17652s	you know you're not getting there by
17653s	just uh pushing all the damage face with
17656s	uh burn spells you do need to lock down
17658s	the board in some way
17661s	okay well he's gonna
17662s	take this nine he's seen some burn now
17665s	but
17666s	that feels like it might be interesting
17668s	might be slightly dangerous yeah this
17670s	does oh wow okay that's a pretty sick
17672s	draw for alex he put it he put it on the
17674s	top last time i thought he okay yeah
17676s	yeah sorry my bad right that's right
17678s	uh but yeah this is kind of why for quan
17680s	we're going back quite a few turns why i
17682s	did want to see on turn four was it uh
17685s	thick hide kodo instead of the dancer
17688s	uh because you know you often end up in
17690s	situations like this with thief rogue
17691s	where you don't really want to play
17693s	what's kind of like a mediocre play
17695s	um in your non-row cards as it's best
17698s	just to play them i find a lot of the
17700s	time so that when you do have to go for
17701s	tess or contraband stash you just get
17703s	them back straight away
17706s	totem
17707s	make bird go
17715s	uh how close is it to lethal with this
17716s	12 11 if they can't be dealt with
17720s	not very there's two taunts in the way
17723s	yeah but you know you can clear that
17725s	with a lightning storm somewhere that
17727s	yeah
17728s	isn't that
17730s	yeah yeah okay so the light no the
17731s	lightning storms in the nuggling right
17732s	so yeah so
17734s	if you get
17735s	uh
17737s	bran off the top which i think is at the
17739s	bottom of the deck maybe i can't
17740s	remember if that was one of the what
17741s	about bio
17743s	the dredge options or a bio yeah that
17745s	could do it too then yeah okay
17747s	there might be outs for lethal here
17751s	uh especially as wicked stab tooth does
17754s	not get the job done
17757s	suddenly the deck we've been saying is
17759s	having a terrible draw has chances to
17761s	win the game
17766s	uh
17768s	kind of yeah oh give me this one please
17771s	come on
17774s	it also has a chance to lose the game if
17776s	that makes you happy ah
17778s	that's pretty clever actually going for
17779s	tooth plus wicked stab here to kill off
17781s	both the minions makes bioluminescence
17784s	yeah much much worse draw i really did
17786s	not see this line
17788s	uh
17789s	but i think that's actually really
17790s	clever from kwanwu
17796s	hey
17799s	and taunts
17802s	kill two okay my healing tote i'm back
17805s	oh no already got that back get it back
17807s	again
17808s	okay
17809s	that's a pretty good amount of clear
17811s	yeah fair enough this is definitely the
17812s	play
17815s	winner ball
17819s	yeah the contraband stash is pretty good
17822s	it is
17823s	a good amount of board but like you say
17824s	this is looking a lot better for alex
17826s	than i was expecting it to
17829s	oh not a bad draw either
17834s	oh
17836s	shield chatter with the code combo
17848s	wow
17850s	yeah i guess it's probably just the
17851s	arcane overflow but that's a pretty it's
17852s	not a bad card to get honestly
17855s	uh in the shield shatter
17860s	yeah one's got contraband stash and one
17862s	hasn't at the moment
17865s	count the damage though it's close it's
17868s	really quite close 15 does he need two
17872s	yeah
17874s	it's these two
17876s	how did that happen
17878s	what a going
17880s	for him to get this close
17883s	just cut outs for lethal
17886s	oh okay these are spicy drawers now
17889s	yeah they are
17897s	oh there it is that's the money here
17905s	all right so
17906s	yeah i don't think there are any
17910s	outside other than bioluminescence or
17913s	maybe
17914s	school teacher he's got the manner
17917s	oh my god it's actually any damage any
17920s	burn any damage anybody
17923s	uh scroll is
17926s	not quite good enough there's no mana
17928s	left over is there
17933s	that's so close it's so close
17936s	oh what a heartbreaker can he buy
17939s	another turn where he can steal top deck
17941s	lethal i'm not sure
17943s	he's not dead next turn it's just about
17945s	whether he can stop this 3-5 from going
17947s	off which i mean currently it won't win
17950s	chill that's huge yeah
17953s	i think yes it is
17956s	dwelt through so much of his deck
17961s	okay that's more stall next turn can he
17964s	get fire
17966s	that's not fire just refusing to die
17969s	oh my god jackpot again what is
17972s	happening
17978s	those are terrible
17981s	yep
17987s	okay is it ever scabs
17993s	not very good is it
17998s	still looking at the cards
18001s	what a bad hearthstone card
18006s	paid six mana for that
18013s	the artwork sums up how you feel when
18015s	you draw it
18019s	he still having oh
18021s	oh my god
18023s	all right well i was snowfall then
18026s	just
18027s	do it all again
18032s	oh it's one off
18034s	it's one can you get it over two turns
18038s	here actually is it one off
18040s	yeah it is yeah yeah and the problem is
18042s	that the
18044s	the piranhas would just end up killing
18046s	the uh
18047s	the kodo which puts you further off from
18049s	lethal again in the first place
18055s	i guess you sack your four three in 80
18058s	gigafin am i being dumb here yes i am
18061s	okay yeah you get five armor when the
18063s	koda dies which yeah yeah
18070s	it's just being stupid i think you're
18073s	breathing
18075s	but
18076s	oh my god it's so close but quanwood's
18078s	just got nothing happening
18081s	i mean he's got some big rats
18085s	he has got a lot of big drooling rats
18096s	uh i mean you have scabs you can pull
18098s	the trigger on that any time
18100s	uh if the board gets too scary but your
18102s	follow-up is really really not very
18104s	strong
18109s	oh man and still even with 15 health
18112s	it's exactly the break point for uh for
18116s	jp oh no sorry because it kills off the
18118s	code i was gonna say yeah i'd like to
18119s	get fire invocation but actually it's
18122s	really really nice that the the kodo
18123s	dies off and doesn't return to hand how
18126s	many rats do you want to play
18128s	three
18129s	uh-huh
18131s	that
18134s	man that card's so good makes the
18136s	guardian better
18141s	it does what can you do against the
18143s	guardian gigafin
18145s	you can fit it next turn yeah yeah
18147s	that's fine right because then when it's
18149s	re-summoned it will lose the buff
18150s	but i really don't think you mind
18152s	playing all your minions here
18155s	the rats who's there
18160s	somebody end this game the rats aren't
18162s	eating they're right it's just the
18164s	oh yeah so i'm going absolutely losing
18166s	it it's great it's gigafin but it's not
18168s	that giga
18171s	that's terrifying
18173s	there you tell me
18175s	13 cards left
18179s	goal in hand
18180s	two bios in the deck
18182s	loads of card draw loads of stall
18185s	hear a power that can do six at will
18187s	eventually
18190s	why is this game still going on on
18192s	either side
18197s	it looked over like nine turns ago
18200s	you're drawing
18201s	luminescence i guess yeah again you
18203s	still have the uh
18205s	the school
18207s	yeah uh plus the
18208s	[Music]
18211s	burn combo with the bioluminescence
18215s	plenty of cardboard if you count
18217s	guardians as card draw here
18219s	playing the piranhas wow okay he's just
18221s	trying to make sure he's got enough mana
18225s	oh he's just not gonna die this time so
18226s	he's gonna save his guardian for another
18228s	draw
18235s	go on please make it a bio oh that would
18238s	have been so exciting
18241s	i mean it's got to be eventually
18244s	that's a neptune right for two mana
18247s	oh this hand this stupid hand from
18251s	why is it so weird
18253s	why can't it be normal
18259s	into
18259s	the
18261s	ice
18262s	howell tower whatever it's called yeah
18264s	summon spells from his deck oh man that
18266s	doesn't feel good
18274s	what should i take 11 cards now in
18277s	alex's deck
18278s	he's got at least one more freeze
18282s	his hero power will surely behave itself
18284s	eventually
18286s	school teachers surely he's gonna get
18288s	there
18292s	i still just can't believe that how this
18294s	game got to this point i kind of feel
18295s	like i'm in inception whether like you
18297s	can always tell you're in a dream
18299s	because you can't quite tell how you got
18300s	to any situation you're in you just
18302s	appeared there like i can't piece
18304s	together how we got to this point in the
18306s	game after alex's starting hand it was
18309s	so bad and still he's in with a chance
18313s	of winning this game
18315s	like one of those movies
18317s	starts off with you might be wondering
18319s	how i got here
18321s	well let me tell you a story
18327s	ah
18329s	all right we're still looking for
18331s	bioluminescence we take it off of the
18333s	nargling as well anybody we'll take
18338s	probably better than lightning bolt
18343s	i think so
18344s	yeah obviously alex will know better but
18346s	i think he he used so much burn to stay
18348s	alive there's not much left it feels
18350s	like it's bio or bust
18352s	yeah i agree i was just it's like a one
18354s	in five or better to hit by oh there's
18356s	the six
18357s	there's fire
18359s	uh which means that if he took lightning
18362s	bolt it's still not quite lethal but
18364s	it's i think closer
18370s	are you gigger but i don't think it
18371s	matters oh my god
18376s	[Music]
18378s	has he got the mana if he hits
18380s	one
18381s	they're the fourth gig up in this game
18387s	oh
18389s	double
18391s	i don't even know if he picked the far
18393s	side though he might have picked bolt if
18395s	you pick bolt he's won
18399s	yeah
18400s	oh they picked farsight oh my god he did
18403s	so you can go bowler
18406s	nargling get double
18409s	activation and if you hit
18410s	bioluminescence it's gg is it gg it's
18413s	plus 2 5 10 15 20 yes yeah
18418s	all right two shots at it
18423s	oh
18428s	oh okay multicaster procs again and you
18431s	still have mana that will proc again the
18435s	farsight from
18437s	the
18438s	bowl there but the problem is it's also
18440s	drawing three cards and they're running
18441s	into
18442s	a territory oh my god
18446s	no
18446s	no
18448s	no
18449s	bad he overthrew it oh my god my god
18453s	it had to end that way he just had to
18455s	that's how this whole game's been of
18457s	course he burns it
18461s	oh
18462s	disaster
18464s	absolute disaster
18469s	it's just another overdraw oh alex you
18472s	poor man
18474s	oh
18476s	and quan wu just
18477s	hits everything into the face and that's
18479s	the end of that and he has gone to
18481s	scream at some clouds derek because that
18484s	was pretty unfair
18487s	oh my god i can't
18490s	deal with what happened that game
18492s	like
18493s	for alex what an absolute heartbreaker
18496s	you bring this deck you do really well
18498s	with it up until this point
18499s	and then you draw like absolute garbage
18501s	you're thinking oh this is a bit
18503s	embarrassing my deck is not doing that
18505s	well and then on the last end of the
18506s	game you overthrow your one win
18509s	condition like the one outer to be able
18511s	to get the game and it turns out that
18513s	like having that bloody healing totem in
18516s	hand that was bounced back by the stabs
18518s	after being eaten and then puked back up
18520s	by gigafit twice
18523s	exactly was the card that stopped you
18525s	from winning the game because you
18526s	overdrew that was absolute
18528s	nonsense that was one heck of a game of
18531s	hearthstone i don't quite understand
18533s	anything about it but it was great every
18536s	minute of
18537s	it because he lost we get to see it
18540s	again
18543s	oh my goodness all right well he's going
18545s	to have a nice calming game of curse
18547s	warlock yeah nice proper deck with no
18550s	memes at all
18552s	in the cursed wallet
18554s	uh i mean you know admittedly is a
18556s	little bit more of a linear deck than
18557s	what we saw from the uh the shaman there
18559s	and hopefully alex uh can get his head
18562s	straight after that you know really
18564s	really messy end
18566s	to the game there
18567s	which i do think to be honest was kind
18569s	of winnable from him in that situation
18571s	or at least you know he could have
18572s	massively improved his chances uh if it
18575s	counted through the number of cards he
18576s	was drawing a little bit better
18578s	which is another thing you do have to be
18579s	very aware of with the curse warlock
18582s	there's a lot of cards to be drawn and
18584s	even though there are very few cards
18586s	that if you are to overdraw them lose
18588s	you the game on the spot uh you know you
18590s	do
18591s	still need to be making sure at the
18593s	start of each turn you're planning out
18594s	what every single point of mana is going
18596s	to be spent on so that you never end up
18598s	in those awkward uh overdraw scenarios i
18601s	don't want to watch this game i want to
18602s	watch the last game again
18604s	i just enjoyed that way too much like
18607s	the result was heartbreaking but that
18609s	was that was a game derek
18611s	all right um he is going to be able to
18613s	get to one of these two more aggressive
18614s	decks though
18616s	um the warlock i don't know i sort of
18618s	agree with you it falls between
18621s	not quite good enough against the slower
18623s	decks and not quite quick enough against
18625s	the faster decks but
18626s	um
18628s	be looking to take on the shaman here i
18630s	think with the warlock if he gets his
18631s	way
18634s	uh yes i agree i do think that the
18636s	warlock is in a pretty good shot against
18638s	the shaman in my opinion uh the the kind
18640s	of the biggest weakness of shaman
18643s	uh right now
18645s	is that it doesn't have that much
18647s	follow-up um i'm fully willing to blame
18650s	this on the fact that it might just be
18652s	me playing poorly with the deck and i'm
18653s	not saving bowler um for high value
18657s	enough scenarios i'm also playing a list
18659s	without bran personally which i think
18660s	could be a bit of a mistake because that
18662s	can give you a lot of extra value but
18664s	basically the point i'm moving towards
18665s	here very slowly and meanderingly is the
18668s	against warlock which has a huge amount
18669s	of removal uh and a very strong ultimate
18672s	win condition uh you just kind of run
18674s	out of stuff as the shaman you go tit
18675s	for tap for a while they're able to
18677s	clear off your glove if you're playing
18679s	that they're able to clear off your big
18681s	um
18682s	snowfall guardians which never really
18684s	get that big in the first place uh in
18686s	this matchup uh and then it's a pretty
18688s	easy fair for them to be able to close
18690s	out the game with the curses and so that
18692s	should be a pretty good match up for jp
18694s	however what he is going to be going for
18696s	here first is uh the fell demon hunter
18700s	which is a much different match up and
18702s	one that i think will be a little bit
18703s	tougher for alex
18706s	yeah just a lot of damage that you can
18709s	do from hand from weapons and stuff
18711s	meaning that all that board clear yeah
18712s	unlucky
18713s	doesn't matter um enough early game you
18716s	can get enough damage in there before
18718s	the warlock starts doing its thing and
18721s	the old meme the warlocks hurting itself
18724s	also comes into play in this one as well
18726s	although does start on 40 it is the 40
18729s	card version of warlock i assume by the
18730s	fact my decklist scrolls down three
18732s	monitors
18735s	so
18736s	i don't even look for renathon anymore i
18738s	just scroll and see if it just keeps
18740s	going it does it's 40 cards
18744s	um so a little bit of a problem there
18746s	but the demon hunter is able if it's
18749s	unchecked to to stick enough repeated
18751s	damage uh we don't even talk much about
18753s	ladies they know anymore but obviously
18755s	she still does huge amounts of damage if
18757s	you need her to
18758s	yeah it's true it kind of feels like
18760s	thinner hasn't really come up that much
18763s	recently uh in this deck it's probably
18765s	just a because of a small sample size uh
18767s	but i agree you know you do often have
18769s	to still be aware of it the deck is a
18771s	little bit less aggressive now than it
18772s	was previously
18774s	but still with a huge amount of
18775s	potential uh to do lots of burst damage
18779s	uh for kwanwu uh i am
18782s	probably expecting a full mulligan uh
18785s	but kurchus is very tempting to hold on
18788s	to just for a mid game plan
18791s	are we even keeping the demon seed here
18796s	that's a good question
18797s	uh
18801s	no
18802s	i want to say feel like it just never
18805s	really helps you enough if you're going
18807s	to win this game but i could be very
18808s	wrong here curious to see what he does
18815s	yeah throwing it all while keeping the
18817s	tabs in obviously but you're throwing
18820s	all the garbage
18823s	i see you've brought guests
18828s	the excitement of the last game has
18829s	activated kwanwu's webcam that's good to
18831s	see
18839s	all right respectable little hand for
18841s	alex on the other side the dreadlish
18842s	terms in is obviously fantastic to see
18845s	in your starting hand uh it would be
18848s	nice to find a rod to go alongside this
18851s	is i think the next best draw
18853s	and of course some aoe i think in any
18856s	form that you can find it
18864s	oh
18865s	no minion occupation though
18871s	always raises the question how patient
18873s	you want to be yep going to be patient
18874s	got time
18878s	was he happy to not see the like fossil
18881s	fanatic maybe
18884s	alex is just trying to perk himself up
18885s	honestly i think this is the um yeah
18887s	sure the recovery position for the
18889s	hearthstone player just had a disaster
18891s	has to play a lot more matches today
18896s	okay so we just keep tapping here uh i
18898s	don't think there's any need to mess
18900s	around
18901s	with anything else with a null in hand
18902s	you just want as much
18904s	cards in hand as possible
18906s	wow
18908s	that i am surprised to see i guess this
18910s	might work out better for two turns yeah
18912s	yeah exactly he's mapped out exactly how
18914s	many cards he's going to draw with tams
18915s	in
18918s	fair enough
18920s	and just need for greed nobody does
18922s	anything for the first three turns must
18923s	favor the warlock
18929s	probably i'm not saying the game is
18931s	warlock favored but it's less warlock
18933s	unfavored than it was when
18935s	yeah
18936s	wow how many negatives can i fit in one
18938s	sentence
18940s	not two less unfavor than it was when
18942s	this didn't happen
18951s	well it definitely still feels like
18953s	we're leading up into coin tabs and
18954s	right i don't think coin school teacher
18956s	um
18957s	carries enough umphrey uh to warrant uh
18960s	deviating away from that power play on
18962s	turn five
18964s	i'm just amused by the fact you say it's
18966s	not possible to overdraw in this deck
18967s	and here he is working out his tams in
18969s	three turns advance so he doesn't do
18971s	that
18974s	very true
18976s	doesn't even want to play the demon seed
18980s	okay interesting
18983s	it's interesting actually
18989s	looking to play the knolls next the
18991s	knolls next turn
19001s	nothing he wants to play onto the board
19006s	uh
19008s	so
19011s	yuri
19013s	predation that's just bad
19015s	um
19017s	yeah there's nothing i really want to do
19018s	with this magnet either to be perfectly
19020s	honest like i don't even want to equip
19021s	the glaze because i might want to go for
19023s	bone glaze next time
19026s	it's just a horrible hand i can't even
19028s	use a few because it ticks up next turn
19031s	yeah
19032s	like just attack swing fell barrage so
19034s	that it's played for if you draw jace
19042s	yeah
19043s	yeah i think so
19044s	that's the play
19046s	just get a card out of your hand that
19047s	you haven't totally wasted but again
19050s	i've got enough cheap stuff going on for
19051s	this there no later yeah let's do
19055s	that like it
19060s	oh just a full oh no he does not brush
19063s	okay he ends up on the same game plan
19066s	horrible turn but i think the best he
19068s	could do
19071s	all right uh for jp questions do need to
19075s	be asked at this point about what on
19077s	earth is happening um with uh your
19080s	opponent's hand um and so what are their
19083s	reactive capabilities are they waiting
19085s	for you to play something so they can go
19087s	for some kind of a dread prison blade
19089s	multi-strike play uh you know for
19091s	example if you've just gone null tap
19093s	knoll there for four mana if they had
19095s	glaive multi-strike hero power or glaive
19098s	fury something like that they can clear
19099s	them off and deal quite a lot of damage
19101s	at the same time
19102s	so i don't begrudge jp for going
19105s	uh with this line instead
19108s	it's another weird game derek the first
19110s	card the warlock laid apart
19114s	having taken not enough damage
19118s	and kwan wu has yet to play a minion
19121s	because
19122s	oh he's gonna draw so badly the next few
19124s	turns as well the deck is full of two
19126s	drops now pretty um
19130s	uh that
19131s	feels like an icarny to me
19134s	yeah it's the old turn seven vicious
19136s	slither spear doesn't quite cut it does
19138s	it
19139s	yeah i mean you could argue for sigil of
19141s	course to keep cycling through your deck
19142s	but i think akani just does a very
19144s	unique function in this deck
19146s	and i would like it to be on the bottom
19148s	yeah you really want to um
19151s	try and win with what you've got now
19152s	because you know your drawers could just
19153s	end up being absolutely horrible for a
19155s	few turns now
19159s	wow does one residual
19161s	interesting
19168s	alex came to the stream expecting a nice
19170s	hearthstone match and what he got was an
19172s	absolute
19173s	i don't even know what we're watching
19175s	but it's great
19176s	pile of nonsense
19178s	um
19180s	kind of curious as to how much he cares
19183s	about overdraw here because again like i
19185s	said there are you know there are some
19186s	draws that hurt if you lose them like
19189s	sir cool bran
19191s	um maybe gigafin as well for a bit of
19194s	board clear later on but there are no
19196s	insta lose the game cards if you
19198s	overdraw them so i don't think that coin
19200s	tamzin is a ridiculous play to suggest
19203s	here
19204s	um or if he's just going to drop the
19205s	nose and think well if you're not going
19206s	to put things on the board i'm going to
19208s	do it
19208s	yeah i mean he quite clearly wants to
19210s	save the nulls for removal i think which
19213s	which is wise because again like i said
19215s	um if you just play them they very
19218s	possibly have some kind of a
19219s	multi-strike glaive
19222s	no i get it it's just at some point you
19225s	think okay well i'm just gonna yeah i'm
19226s	just gonna have stuff on the board and
19228s	i'm gonna be the attacking deck and you
19229s	can deal with this and not hit me in the
19230s	face anymore
19232s	i mean it does kind of make you wonder
19233s	why like the the demon seat wasn't
19235s	played earlier on like this is quite a
19237s	foreseeable outcome that you just have
19238s	too many cards in hand
19240s	with this warlock i think the turn he
19242s	didn't play it he was hoping to have two
19244s	two mana knowledge the next turn and
19246s	kill some things and then just things
19248s	didn't happen
19249s	uh yeah i kind of got stuck on that path
19252s	yeah that's fair it's reasonable to
19254s	assume your opponent will play uh
19256s	minions
19257s	in their minion base detect deck yeah
19263s	well there's definitely a clear
19264s	available with the kurdish he's swung
19266s	pretty much every turn this game
19269s	that's all he's been able to do
19274s	and i do think at this point in the game
19276s	you want to just go for
19279s	playing with the the bone glaive set up
19281s	for maybe some kind of a dread prison
19283s	glaive turn in the next couple in the
19284s	next turn or two sorry
19286s	and uh also just the fact that kirchhoff
19288s	sets up for you know the classic ladies
19291s	athena pop-up where you go
19294s	uh hero power spell hero power spell
19296s	hero power hero power and hope to deal
19298s	like 15 damage that way
19301s	yeah and he's into that zone i'm gonna
19303s	have to hope that
19305s	he gets some damage out of the
19306s	multipliers you have to just hope for a
19307s	lot of things to go his way
19309s	that's good whoa right that has to be a
19312s	swing
19315s	wow okay
19321s	oh
19322s	give ourselves another bread baker
19326s	it's probably fairly high priority card
19329s	to copy in this matchup right healing is
19334s	somewhat difficult to come by
19336s	consistently yep
19341s	alex is struggling to formulate a plan
19342s	because he's trying to work out what
19344s	quan wu is actually doing from where he
19346s	said quan was doing some big brain
19348s	strategy you know involving steno and
19351s	loads of spells which is kind of how
19352s	it's going to end up but it's not out of
19354s	big braininess it's just that's what he
19356s	drew
19358s	alex might end up second guessing
19359s	himself if he's not careful here
19361s	just needs to proceed with what he's
19363s	doing
19375s	okay
19376s	he's definitely dumping cards like he
19378s	wants to make room for the dreadlocks
19380s	uh i agree definitely something you want
19382s	to do
19383s	and this is the kind of board that is
19385s	pretty nicely shaped right like two
19386s	knolls on the board that's very easy for
19388s	the the demon hunter to answer
19391s	four minions on the board at once that's
19393s	a little bit tough but that's the kind
19394s	of play that can actually disrupt a uh a
19396s	zilla leg that's coming down here
19403s	as now it's just a uh a very very clean
19406s	uh tamzin indeed
19412s	i don't know what's in the noggling but
19415s	unless it's something very special i
19416s	doubt it's anything other than trade-in
19420s	and tamzin
19422s	it makes a lot of sense
19429s	how much damage have we got on the other
19431s	side i know it's not enough but i guess
19432s	we should keep an eye on it because it
19433s	will be quite a lot
19435s	uh
19437s	yeah true true this is quite a lot of
19439s	damage especially if something high
19441s	health sticks on the board of the
19442s	opponent uh there's not much that is
19444s	that but
19446s	if they were somehow to do so
19450s	it's sort of in the 20 region it's a
19452s	rough eyeball of it when he gets enough
19454s	mana that is
19459s	take me pick me full blown evil okay
19461s	yeah that's a reason enough to go face
19466s	the knoll gap
19473s	here they come
19476s	the stuff he doesn't want
19480s	if you're gonna go for a big pop off
19481s	turn it
19483s	you would rather wait as long as
19484s	possible obviously because then you have
19486s	more mana to spend on hero powers each
19488s	turn uh but the question then very
19490s	rapidly becomes what are you doing in
19491s	the interim to which the answer even
19494s	more rapidly comes as nothing
19497s	yeah
19501s	okay he's got some sort of multi-strike
19503s	win if it comes to it if the wrong
19505s	things are played i don't think he's
19507s	quite there yet 38 it's just too much
19509s	damage
19510s	the answer is here but then if you sit
19513s	there doing nothing you're always going
19515s	to have to do 38 and you're never going
19516s	to get there so yeah
19519s	really is kind of stuck here
19531s	yeah i mean realistically i i do think
19534s	it's some kind of like a sigil hero
19536s	power swing
19538s	maybe equip the glaive at the end you
19540s	know maybe you play one of the multi
19542s	strikes as well just because they're
19543s	expensive
19545s	yeah work out your cheapest possible
19547s	turn basically and
19549s	give a little bit of damage away and
19551s	yeah
19553s	work out your ideal hand with double
19555s	predation etcetera
19559s	find sneaky some damage and then jace
19564s	like a pop-off turn into a jace might
19565s	get there
19567s	except there's another baker on the
19569s	other side
19575s	and so how do we want to spend our mana
19577s	we want to tap every turn possible to
19579s	draw through to our bran and zero cool
19582s	oh sorry enza cool on the same turn
19586s	and mortal coil allows you to speed up
19588s	your draw even quicker so i'm on board
19592s	sure
19592s	i'm on board with anything that speeds
19594s	this game up
19597s	who here can spell
19600s	anybody right below
19603s	sure yeah why not
19607s	sound effects
19609s	no
19610s	trust me
19613s	alex has gone from sort of being
19614s	slightly puzzled to being incredibly
19616s	puzzled what is my opponent actually
19618s	doing here okay there's a load of stuff
19620s	that's a lot of stuff they came in the
19622s	wrong order unfortunately is the
19624s	predation
19625s	uh
19626s	reduction in cost is
19629s	inconsequential
19630s	kind of feel that his out here is
19633s	rapidly becoming do the thing with zeno
19636s	and hope jace is your top card dancer is
19639s	here
19642s	yeah that does make sense i'm just
19644s	wondering how much whether you can fit
19647s	one extra turn in between like you could
19649s	go
19650s	glaive multi-strike as he's doing here
19652s	hero power as well to then send the
19654s	damage face
19655s	uh fel barrage as well sure because
19657s	again he doesn't need that many spells
19660s	to spend all his mana with safino
19662s	because every spell comes with a plus
19665s	one mana on it in the form of the hero
19667s	power that you're going to be pressing
19668s	after sabino attacks uh so i think this
19670s	is very well worked out from kwamu where
19672s	he's able to find some use for his mana
19674s	here and get a little bit of damage face
19677s	set up for a strong safino turn and uh
19679s	as you put set up for jace off the top
19682s	for your uh hopeful eventual win
19684s	condition yeah this way allows a few of
19686s	these to level up one more time as well
19689s	so
19691s	jaw
19700s	oh is it really not a carny on this turn
19704s	fresh out of the oven
19710s	your good old turn nine demon seed
19712s	that'll show
19717s	okay go
19720s	do the things
19721s	enjoy your jace hope they don't kill you
19725s	refined
19728s	easy for you to say
19730s	alex thinks he's dead
19732s	[Applause]
19734s	i don't think so i don't think there's
19736s	any combination of cards that can carry
19738s	me right
19740s	it's a lot of damage you know this is
19742s	clearly very very scary
19744s	uh but it's not quite enough to get
19746s	there
19748s	and by not quite i mean 16 sure actually
19751s	it's not it's 11 short
19753s	but sure
19756s	unless that's nine short nine i missed
19758s	two yeah
19759s	jace's leave for this they did do the
19761s	set up
19769s	two games in a row neither deck has been
19771s	able to just do anything
19778s	and so you have drain soul touch in
19780s	order to be able to heal up a little bit
19781s	and then
19783s	i guess you could start with a tap
19785s	first of all and then maybe end with an
19787s	ohani
19789s	um akane is a little bit awkward
19792s	um because obviously sliverspear would
19794s	still allow them to play the jace
19797s	but alex doesn't know that and i think
19798s	it's still reasonable to try and
19801s	stop them uh from playing
19805s	uh the jace by going for a khani minion
19809s	god's sakes
19811s	what's happening here
19813s	is this really worth it was this better
19816s	than just going
19817s	akane hero power
19820s	i think he thought the drag below might
19822s	actually do something
19824s	oh no he wanted to play it and then
19825s	touch the naturalism right but he's just
19828s	clearly undecided as to whether that's
19829s	even the correct play yeah i mean he's
19831s	just deciding in the end here that it
19832s	was better to go through
19834s	just not really thinking through your
19835s	turn all the way
19838s	and jace might be close here oh dear
19843s	here come the money good cards
19847s	uh but yeah exactly as you said
19852s	just praying no chase no chase please
19855s	one time
19856s	how's this one got close we like we were
19858s	gobsmacked that the first game got close
19860s	but how has this game still going on
19864s	turns out the warlock needed a win
19865s	condition maybe didn't need to play
19867s	three bread bakers and gained about 10
19869s	health total
19872s	strike now
19878s	oh there you go
19879s	that's a true
19889s	yeah
19890s	activate your uh
19893s	your queen as
19895s	well and actually do some damage to your
19898s	opponent that'd be nice
19902s	yeah that's true the minions you have on
19903s	board are pretty relevant
19912s	like you just go touch touch coil right
19915s	that activates your queen you play the
19916s	queen
19920s	wow really didn't want to play a five
19922s	five on this term
19924s	with some draws maybe he's looking for i
19926s	don't know
19928s	maybe
19932s	he hasn't really given that many curses
19933s	though
19934s	no
19935s	one or two
19939s	yeah this looks a lot like a five five
19941s	that we just didn't play
19948s	unless this is lethal which uh
19950s	no
19951s	it's just not legal
19954s	ah the glaive
19957s	that'll finally do it oh a good effort
19960s	from kwan what a good setup i think his
19961s	a few turns with a very uh awkward hand
19964s	were well maneuvered uh but for alex
19967s	there again you know it's got to be said
19970s	a couple turns there where he did feel a
19972s	little shaky uh in his play uh overall i
19976s	think things were for the most part okay
19979s	but hand management in the early turns
19981s	it felt like things maybe weren't quite
19982s	thought through well enough and then at
19984s	the end there again as i talked about
19985s	with warlock you need to know what every
19988s	single point of your mana is going to be
19989s	spent on at the start of every turn not
19992s	halfway through to be changing your mind
19994s	as you go make sure you know what you're
19996s	doing before you start playing stuff
19998s	right so it's one all we can forget
20000s	those first two games ever okay the
20002s	players can forget they ever happen
20003s	they're both games where they're trying
20004s	to top decker lethal to some degree
20007s	now we can have a good old best of three
20009s	derek love it
20011s	um we've got the shaman it's gonna make
20012s	a reappearance at some point and we do
20014s	have what i believe is anaconda doing
20017s	but i'm gonna check that i'm not going
20018s	nutty at this point yep it is the
20021s	bless your druid 40 card version
20024s	of the bless your cards yeah okay
20027s	uh which does put alex in
20031s	maybe a little bit of trouble against
20032s	shaman it's a really interesting one uh
20035s	well interesting maybe not quite the
20036s	word a close one it can go either way
20039s	depending on how good of a draw the
20040s	druid gets like you know if they hit
20041s	that early start with the the celestial
20044s	alignment yes they get there pretty much
20045s	every time the shaman struggles to pile
20047s	on enough pressure to be able to stop
20050s	that one from happening
20051s	but a lot of the tricks that shaman has
20053s	access to really do wreak havoc with the
20056s	uh the druid for example akani which
20058s	we've seen time and again could be an
20060s	absolute nightmare in terms of stopping
20062s	these very obvious key development turns
20064s	you know if they play a jerry rig
20065s	carpenter you know they're gonna wanna
20067s	sorry they're gonna want to play nourish
20069s	so you can just go spell stop them from
20071s	playing nourish going into turn eight or
20073s	eight mana you can stop them from
20074s	playing the alignment uh and also the
20076s	big pop-off turn with
20079s	bolner
20080s	um
20082s	and uh
20083s	oh sorry i was going to say with mutants
20084s	but of course it's the burn package
20086s	variant as opposed to the the murloc
20088s	version uh so bulma's not even in there
20091s	and oh sorry bro
20093s	uh the mutinous is not even in there and
20095s	for that matter actually neither is
20097s	okani because it's just the full-out
20099s	burn package so all of that that i was
20100s	talking about isn't even a thing and
20102s	it's just gonna be him relying on the uh
20104s	full-out burn to try and take down the
20107s	demon
20108s	yep game number three on the way
20112s	well commander of neptulon looks like a
20113s	better card than anything he drew in the
20115s	first nine turns last game so already
20118s	doing better probably throw it away but
20120s	hey start
20121s	and metamorphin looks somewhat better
20123s	than anything that quaint wood drew last
20125s	time and slitherspeed is like an actual
20127s	hand we might get a game of hearthstone
20129s	down because a game of whatever we just
20130s	saw two games of what
20133s	sounds exciting
20135s	go for it
20136s	i'm ready
20138s	yeah full mode for alex the only one i
20140s	would consider is maybe keeping command
20142s	of neptulon uh but it's i agree a little
20145s	bit too slow uh when you don't have any
20147s	other better plays earlier on
20150s	uh you know this hand though is not
20153s	bad
20155s	it's uh you know it's no accident that
20157s	windchill has been cut from most of the
20159s	other mid-range shaman lists
20161s	um in favor of a slightly stronger mid
20163s	game with the school teachers slotted in
20165s	there instead
20166s	uh but windshield is still not a bad
20168s	card just to cycle through the rest of
20170s	your day
20172s	it's funny how cars were amazing only a
20174s	few months ago just become yeah this is
20177s	still pretty good but yeah i don't know
20181s	i mean it just never feels like there's
20182s	anything you really want to freeze in
20184s	this meta game like few decks play a
20186s	single big minion right now
20188s	i know that people are sort of waiting
20190s	to hear updates on their favorites as
20191s	well habugabu seven and oh
20195s	fury hunter and gabby six and one pocket
20198s	train six and one
20201s	i think i managed to do that without
20202s	spoiling any of the backup games
20205s	306 and one as well
20208s	yeah if i've spoiled them so be it i'm
20209s	trying not to you ying went to six on
20211s	one
20212s	very fat cat and fire noodle uh let me
20215s	just check they're not in the backup
20216s	games
20218s	they're both seven and oh and i'll leave
20220s	it and i do spoil one there we go
20223s	some pretty good names getting to the
20224s	top
20225s	and i'm very even we'll be excited to be
20228s	able to say the word noodle repeatedly
20230s	tomorrow
20232s	it's true it's like the battle between
20234s	salt and raven right cats and noodles
20236s	it's their
20238s	characteristics
20242s	um fire cat and very fat noodle would
20246s	definitely be a better way of wording
20247s	them
20249s	i think those are both pokemon
20251s	[Laughter]
20259s	uh i hope you enjoyed your time here at
20262s	house of e-sports tower
20265s	right alex has things he could do he can
20268s	use the windshield or he can trade with
20269s	a piranha but he can if he wants to play
20271s	double piranha windchill
20273s	and just keep the other stuff out there
20275s	it's an option
20277s	but next time he wants to caverns right
20279s	so
20280s	yeah it's uh for me it's just triple
20282s	purana yep same
20290s	like you know yes they can hero power
20291s	them down to clear one of them off but
20293s	you know whatever they have to spend the
20295s	mana on it
20296s	uh on that turn when it's always better
20298s	to make them do that in my experience
20301s	looking to get a value trade though here
20303s	uh but the problem is that like a 3 2 is
20305s	kind of
20306s	equally clearable to a 1-1 most of the
20309s	time given the abundance
20310s	of cheap removal spells
20319s	might commence
20322s	very interesting
20323s	coin here i thought you'd save that for
20326s	you know curtis or something else in his
20327s	hand but he just wants the board right
20328s	now
20329s	yep i'm surprised to see it but it makes
20332s	sense right the expected play is wild
20335s	poor cabin
20336s	and this does
20338s	kind of play around that just because
20340s	you get to push a lot of damage face uh
20343s	if they do go for it i quite like it
20345s	actually it's not just the nine is it
20347s	you're expecting some of it to survive
20348s	another turn afterwards yeah yeah yeah
20351s	with curtis in hand you are relying on
20352s	your top deck though because this could
20354s	go horribly wrong for kwan wu if he
20356s	doesn't draw something off the top
20359s	what is he thinking now piranha piranha
20364s	piranha bolt
20366s	doesn't even allow you a full clear
20369s	uh you could go piranha piranha
20371s	frostbite
20373s	is not much better only allows you to
20376s	clear up one minion
20384s	wind
20387s	yeah i mean i think he was imagining you
20389s	end up going piranha frostbite and kill
20391s	off the 3-4 uh whilst also
20394s	expensivifying their hand
20398s	wow but he just ends on triple piranha
20400s	at the end of the okay
20403s	[Music]
20405s	he feels a
20407s	little worse
20409s	to me than piranha piranha on a bolt uh
20412s	just to kill off the 1-3
20415s	nothing happening here for kwanwu this
20417s	was the gamble he took when he spent
20418s	that coin yeah true
20422s	i know let's just miss a go
20426s	and that's exactly what alex needed to
20428s	see to have any real chance here i think
20432s	now i think he's really starting to look
20433s	up kevin bolt
20435s	yep kevin bolt's not bad a uh commander
20438s	neptulon would have put him drastically
20440s	into the lead in that situation yeah
20442s	but being able to clear off most of the
20443s	board here and get a an elemental that
20446s	freezes onto the board as a very crucial
20448s	distinction
20450s	is very very important here
20459s	trying to find anything that doesn't
20461s	involve just playing a bone glaze for
20463s	very little reason and to curtis to turn
20465s	after
20467s	yeah i think that's just always the play
20468s	you get to unfreeze yourself as kurtrus
20470s	when you transform which is a pretty big
20472s	deal as well
20473s	um
20474s	and when you factor in that alongside
20476s	the two bats as well i think there's a
20477s	really good shot that kwemu can clear up
20479s	whatever board comes down on the next
20480s	turn
20487s	and of course you know you you get to
20488s	dredge with bone glaze you can try and
20490s	find yourself ladies atheno
20492s	uh maybe uh need for greed although
20494s	that's a little shaky with the churches
20496s	you want to play next turn
20502s	creative plays are there
20505s	yeah the other stuff's like fury hero
20507s	power it's just absolute garbages now
20511s	and these all suck actually they do i
20514s	think you just take the jace so you've
20515s	got to chase but if it takes need for
20517s	greed
20519s	yeah i wouldn't want jace to be stuck on
20520s	the bottom of my deck forever so even
20522s	though it's not good right now i think
20523s	that's a good enough reason
20525s	to take it
20531s	oh parrot for
20535s	nothing
20537s	wind chill
20539s	oh yeah sleep breaker yeah good point
20541s	good point
20543s	great
20547s	okay little spicier i'd much rather copy
20550s	that battle bro
20552s	good shot
20555s	oh surprise it's jace
20559s	kind of looks like he's shouting
20560s	surprise with his uh pose there that's
20562s	what he's doing
20563s	surprise
20566s	all my spells are coming back
20569s	you'll never guess what it is uh is it
20571s	fell spells
20573s	yo
20574s	yeah no
20576s	it's just a really bad superhero villain
20582s	we know it we know jason we know it's a
20584s	fel spells no you don't
20586s	it's different this time
20599s	all right lightning and
20603s	twos okay fair enough
20606s	actually what if you go for heel and
20607s	lightning but yeah
20609s	war okay
20614s	not so sure about this yeah i mean i get
20617s	that you're going for a snowfall things
20619s	to try and freeze more minions but
20622s	i think i just clear them while i have
20623s	the chance don't mess around
20642s	and this is kind of the problem with
20644s	freezing here
20645s	yeah
20646s	is obviously there are
20649s	the tentacles which are gonna be bluffed
20650s	up to three damage a piece on the
20652s	following turn
20653s	you can sometimes just overcome that
20656s	with the raw amount of stats that
20657s	snowfall guardian gains like it goes up
20659s	to a
20661s	like 12 12 13 13 here
20664s	on this turn which is really really big
20667s	uh but even if you go snowfall into
20670s	brilliant macquarie i don't know if
20672s	that's enough to get lethal
20691s	right
20695s	so sorry i've run out of words i'm just
20697s	saying right and so and just pausing and
20699s	trying to work out what earth is going
20700s	on now
20702s	yeah i do think you probably want to be
20703s	juicing up the jace on this turn yeah uh
20708s	so just starting with
20710s	i guess being frozen is really really
20712s	rough deal isn't it uh you could start
20714s	chaos strike just because it cycles or
20716s	something yeah i agree
20719s	and it goes into your js which you get
20720s	to play for free next turn if you want
20722s	to
20724s	i just sat here doing nothing
20727s	yeah unless you wanted to go like
20728s	predation predation but it goes on
20731s	really doesn't actually do that much
20734s	there's nothing in the jace that means
20735s	anything yet either okay
20738s	now we have a hearthstone turn
20741s	yeah that's very spicy
20743s	probably not going to be frozen next
20745s	turn
20747s	either because next turn to buy aluminum
20751s	uh that's true it's possible you're dead
20752s	next time but i don't think you need to
20754s	worry about that however he's just
20756s	hating the ladies i think this is right
20758s	i think he needs to kill a couple of
20759s	minions off just to make sure he doesn't
20760s	die
20763s	really
20767s	okay very quite a lot coming in you know
20772s	we know it's not there but two spells in
20774s	the bio would have just about been game
20776s	over there
20781s	all clear left over uh sorry full clear
20783s	available for alex with the
20787s	uh the dredge uh on the giza and the
20790s	hero power
20804s	one spell
20810s	just all card draw none of it does
20812s	anything i don't know if it really does
20814s	anything does it magic
20817s	i've heard of it
20824s	i have to do that you can end school as
20826s	well
20829s	okay a couple draws that could close
20831s	this one out next time for alex
20834s	but
20835s	kwanwu now does have a pretty scary
20838s	position for himself right he can go
20840s	fury into jace
20842s	i don't think that's enough to close out
20844s	the game uh
20847s	i don't think so either there's not a
20848s	whole lot in the chase
20850s	like if he had
20851s	a
20854s	flames uh a glaze equipped and he could
20856s	swing and swing again with a multi
20858s	strike maybe he could get there
20860s	um
20862s	but without that i don't think it's
20863s	enough oh
20865s	it's getting there now
20872s	still would have been one-off
20874s	but uh a valiant effort means that alex
20877s	brings this one back around to start
20880s	sorry despite a pretty rough start to
20881s	the series he's up two games to one now
20885s	with his very very odd shaman indeed
20888s	somehow managing to get the job done i'm
20890s	not gonna say it did the job better than
20892s	the traditional murloc shaman would have
20894s	done
20895s	but i will say it was good enough there
20897s	and his ultimate list seems to be doing
20900s	fine so far
20902s	odd shaman even shaman and very very odd
20904s	shaman you know
20907s	all right now he's gonna get it done
20908s	with the druid the the hard part it
20910s	feels like he's done the hard part it
20911s	feels like he's been playing this game
20912s	for like a week at this point
20915s	uh but now he has to go into the really
20916s	difficult bit try and get it done with
20918s	the alignment druid uh the deck that has
20921s	been
20922s	struggling through this tournament much
20924s	to my disappointment and subtle's glee
20927s	and it is the 40 card version
20936s	indeed yeah
20938s	uh the junk that goes in here what are
20940s	your extra cards starfish
20944s	negotiator
20946s	raid negotiator hearthstone quick
20948s	googling occurs
20949s	uh to remind me what that one is oh yeah
20951s	it has discover choose one card it has
20953s	both effects combined okay i mean yeah
20956s	it's one of those cards that's like fine
20958s	to slot in just have an extra card to
20960s	play in the early turns obviously the
20961s	first ones that come into like park
20963s	panther uh probably starfish as well to
20965s	be able to fight back against wig priest
20968s	it's fine you know
20969s	it's a ramp druid it's a celestial
20971s	alignment you're still just looking
20973s	pretty much exactly for guff celestial
20976s	alignment wild growth as well to be able
20978s	to get you through those starting turns
20979s	and then you pop off and you do the
20981s	disgusting stuff it's just a little bit
20982s	less likely to do that in the starting
20985s	turns but you make up for that by having
20987s	a little bit more time to be able to
20988s	survive against the aggro decks in the
20990s	form of the 10 extra health uh for the
20993s	remaining two decks
20995s	that are
20997s	at kwanwu's disposal it's demon hunter
21000s	on the third try after having now lost
21003s	to the warlock and the shaman uh and the
21006s	uh the shaman as well on the other side
21008s	so i do think that in these two matchups
21010s	alex should be able to get the job done
21012s	against the shaman in particular if you
21014s	get any way of a decent draw um i think
21017s	you can get the job done
21019s	and you're allowed to although again it
21021s	is a 40 card deck but against that it is
21024s	a druid deck there's plenty of
21025s	discoveries and cards just to find that
21027s	one good draw this time though kwanwu
21030s	actually has
21031s	a hand
21033s	an amazing hand but it's like he's got a
21035s	metamorphin he's got a weapon
21037s	hit him
21043s	not that great is it actually
21046s	yeah
21048s	oh he's shaping out the rest this
21049s	probably just keep the metamorphin
21051s	uh toss everything else yeah i think so
21054s	and then for alex just toss everything
21058s	definitely if you're playing 40 cards
21059s	you've got to really go for it on your
21061s	mulligan that's something that um
21063s	is a big deal you can't just keep a two
21066s	drop because it's a curved card has to
21068s	just go
21069s	not even a thought
21071s	he's feeling it as well
21073s	match taking its toll
21081s	i see you on everybody
21084s	dude
21088s	it's been an exhausting match with all
21090s	those missed top decks on both sides
21092s	yeah man seriously that's taking it out
21094s	of me
21095s	what it's like for the players
21098s	uh but alex holding off oh on the uh the
21101s	druid of the reef which i can respect
21104s	using it as a snipe removal target on
21106s	the likes of fossil fanatic
21108s	or the vanguard
21109s	is much more important and by hitting
21112s	jerryrig into nourish this is definitely
21114s	coming together nicely uh he just needs
21116s	to hope that he can find the celestial
21118s	alignment in the near future and i think
21120s	this one should be uh
21122s	in his grasp
21124s	yeah the way it's built as well you sort
21126s	of alluded to it briefly at the start
21128s	you don't necessarily even have to hit
21129s	the alignment you just might end up with
21130s	a load of big stuff on the board that's
21133s	true um just because of the necessities
21135s	of having to put more and more garbage
21137s	in this deck to keep yourself alive and
21139s	to make the 40 cards work but saying
21141s	that's going to happen obviously you
21142s	want the alignment but yeah
21144s	these drawers man are very very spicy
21147s	vape growth next turn
21149s	nourish for ramp again and then card
21152s	draw like it's uh it's all pretty smooth
21156s	yeah on the other side once again quad
21158s	wood just not being able to get those
21160s	early minions down
21162s	and again the double punish he's not
21164s	going to have the minions until he
21165s	doesn't want them
21167s	he's drawn this exact hand every game
21170s	does feel that way doesn't it
21172s	oh mally okay now we're talking
21176s	yeah
21178s	off you go
21183s	alex looks almost confident for the
21185s	first time since about two turns into
21186s	the first game he's like yeah look at my
21188s	shaman i'll be fine only to witness what
21190s	happened
21193s	here we go again just a bunch of spells
21198s	yeah fell barrage metamorphic sigil
21201s	pretty simple i mean you could argue for
21203s	the hero power actually i guess to buff
21205s	up the churches but i agree it's more
21206s	important to give yourself uh a uh more
21209s	likely strong play next turn drizzle
21212s	seven mana and it's down to 37.
21216s	oh he draws interesting
21219s	i i guess if you do find celestial
21222s	alignment it's really nice to have the
21223s	other knowledge to be able to gain the
21225s	extra amount of crystals but
21226s	i don't know ramp into malagos next turn
21229s	like
21230s	that feels like a game winner to me it
21232s	does to me too
21234s	this doesn't feel like a game loser
21235s	though does it if you look at the
21238s	the possibilities of any big thing just
21240s	occupying this board but i agree with
21241s	you
21248s	okay i'll strike see where you're at
21252s	into economy presumably
21267s	was gonna say spell just because you can
21269s	try and play around the scale of a nixia
21272s	uh but there's a reasonable shot they
21273s	haven't counted
21280s	got there
21282s	gonna make that joke work for months
21286s	finally did it
21293s	uh it does make the rest of this turn a
21294s	little
21296s	awkward now
21298s	uh because there is the clear obviously
21300s	in the form of druid plus park panther
21303s	but that's pretty expensive and leaves
21304s	you very very low on uh actual removal
21308s	uh as it looks like jp is going for more
21311s	card draw i think maybe he's trying to
21313s	hit the guff because he's stuck on 10
21315s	mana without it
21318s	obviously he's trying to hit alignment
21319s	trying to hit alignment yeah yeah but
21321s	with the guff backup plan would help
21323s	it's just
21324s	stuck doing nothing
21326s	40 card decks
21332s	that's a pretty spicy drawer in the form
21334s	of ladies athena doesn't even need to be
21335s	alongside the curtis you could just
21337s	straight up go yeah atheno predation
21340s	predation
21344s	fury like that's a lot of damage yeah
21348s	let's get it out of the way
21350s	follow up it's a lag as well man this is
21352s	killing him
21355s	use the barrage now because of the
21358s	possibility of armor as well
21361s	anyway yeah this is all good
21365s	look at all of that
21371s	now all of a sudden oh no
21373s	celestial alignment is looking a lot
21376s	shakier
21379s	you can still play it because
21381s	it's very unlikely you'll die if your
21383s	opponent just has one mana
21385s	uh but it's getting really scary
21387s	especially with both nourishes having
21389s	been used right
21394s	no real huge amounts of um ramp going on
21397s	here
21400s	and the mali is just chilling like
21401s	you're not going to be able to use your
21403s	hands too
21407s	it full of feels like it's still got to
21410s	be the alignment though because
21412s	otherwise what are you doing like scale
21415s	and then you're going to be met with
21417s	just as scary of a board next turn like
21419s	there's a really good shot they have
21420s	zilag they have curtris
21423s	and if they don't have that they just
21424s	have burn in which case you're dead
21425s	anyway right
21427s	yep
21431s	of course if you're not taking alignment
21433s	you could have thought about the turn a
21434s	bit more you're not playing it
21437s	i think you just jam it and close your
21438s	eyes but okay change his
21447s	mind coming up
21453s	that me and panther get that done i
21455s	guess
21460s	well very very easy play for quite who
21463s	has to
21464s	0.01 seconds before he just let's rip
21468s	down to seven
21469s	health now not clearing off the board uh
21472s	but it does mean that there are many
21474s	many uh draws just for lethal on the
21477s	following turn
21480s	jp now can no longer just place
21483s	celestial alignment uh needs to find
21485s	something more substantial which is
21488s	probably
21490s	earthen scales off of the yeah lit
21494s	guidance and then you just go like
21496s	park panther scale scales rush the park
21500s	panther into the zirlag and then take
21502s	out one of the one twos as
21505s	yeah it's well spammy which feels like
21507s	it's not really addressing the problem
21509s	to me this is the play i sort of saw as
21511s	his backup play but yeah
21514s	now it's dope to take seven which feels
21516s	like a
21518s	pretty clumsy game plan all right so we
21521s	are looking for dread prison glaive
21524s	felipe does it okay there we go that'll
21526s	do that does it yeah
21529s	yeah it works as well because you can't
21530s	even get messed up by like the the
21532s	multi-strike nonsense
21535s	straight up one into the minion and then
21538s	one to face which brings us all the way
21540s	to game five my goodness lorenzo i
21542s	thought i might be getting a slightly
21544s	earlier night tonight but not so more
21546s	hearthstone still coming in here in
21549s	round seven as both players are
21551s	scrabbling for that six and one score
21554s	line that puts them in such a good stead
21556s	for top 16.
21558s	and it's gonna be the druid versus the
21560s	shaman sort of regular decks actual game
21563s	that we might understand
21565s	i mean we understood those games but you
21566s	know what i mean actual games that might
21568s	partake in a normal fashion we've got
21570s	the alignment druid uh which was
21572s	massively punished therefore it's 40
21573s	cards on this particular occasion
21576s	uh something i've been saying doesn't
21577s	happen that often but it definitely was
21578s	there
21579s	and going to be against the
21581s	more regular murlocky shaman
21584s	we know and love it throughout this
21585s	tournament
21589s	but now for the uh yeah the final one to
21592s	go for like i said uh i have had very
21595s	mixed
21596s	experience in terms of shaman burst
21598s	druid uh again if they hit the alignment
21601s	at the start there's basically nothing
21602s	that you can
21603s	um and given that it is like you said
21605s	the more uh traditional murloc version i
21607s	do think that kwamu has a lot working
21610s	for him because you have the traditional
21611s	just play your cards out spend all your
21613s	mana every turn game plan which is
21615s	traditionally decent enough i think to
21617s	beat druid uh but then you also have the
21619s	plays of bolner uh bran clownfish and
21623s	mutants where you can just chomp up most
21625s	of your opponent's hand uh with pr uh
21628s	quite some rapidity uh in order to be
21630s	able to get that done at the start of
21631s	the game so i do think there's some real
21633s	tricks up your sleeve if you know what
21635s	you're doing with this shaman
21637s	and uh it's going to be a really close
21639s	one for game five
21641s	i feel like that comet was aimed
21643s	somewhere down
21645s	the hole if you know what you're doing
21646s	like
21648s	well as in i don't know what i'm doing
21650s	oh okay
21651s	for the uninitiated derek had to listen
21653s	to me moan earlier for like an hour
21656s	about every single card i drew in this
21659s	deck that too and there was a deep
21661s	implication amongst the other casters
21663s	that i was a clueless murloc shaman
21665s	player
21667s	i think the firm would deny yeah the
21670s	implication was more so that you're an
21671s	absolute buffoon rather than that you're
21673s	okay mediocre player but yes that's far
21676s	better whatever you need to tell
21677s	yourself absolute buffoon i mean again
21680s	any other way someone's gotta work with
21682s	tj
21684s	uh the other spicy tech here as opposed
21686s	to the starfish that some players have
21690s	been bringing or maybe viper i think
21691s	i've seen here in there uh bloodlust is
21694s	the uh the tech card here for kwanwu
21696s	which against the druid i think is a
21698s	fantastic card to be seeing against any
21700s	deck that doesn't fight for board uh
21702s	that is the way to try and just cheese
21704s	out a win especially if you're going for
21707s	these uh big clown fish starting turns a
21710s	single ball
21711s	can just lock down the game that's a
21713s	better hand
21715s	we'll keep
21717s	yeah i think so i want to full keep it
21720s	that's very tempting hey
21722s	i mean your 40 card deck how is it going
21724s	to get better maybe throw the scale but
21728s	i don't think so i don't think so either
21731s	minded that the winner of this goes six
21733s	and one puts themselves in touching
21735s	distance of that top 16 which we'll see
21737s	tomorrow and the loser will have to win
21739s	their next round to have any chance at
21742s	all
21747s	not a bad outcome at all uh with the
21749s	world
21750s	all right the wild growth having been
21752s	found uh but nothing spectacular in
21754s	terms of the payoff quite yet either
21757s	well that's a good draw too though
21759s	yep
21760s	that's what he was looking for i guess
21763s	i don't guess that's that engulf
21767s	you could go coin jerry vate wild growth
21771s	vate
21772s	nourish
21773s	for the next three turns
21776s	it's a lot of ram
21778s	being used um
21782s	whereas you could have just gone
21784s	jerry wild growth
21786s	nourish and save
21788s	two innovates and a coin
21793s	not entirely convinced by getting this
21795s	down a turn earlier to be honest
21798s	however that being said it does
21799s	challenge this um sleep breaker kind of
21802s	so yeah
21804s	gonna have a good payoff for doing it
21809s	see how he stands later when he has
21811s	fewer mana of course but
21819s	give me a race isn't it just a straight
21820s	up race
21822s	am i looking that way
21831s	right thing's definitely shaping up a
21833s	little bit better uh for alex now though
21836s	with the moonlit guidance being able to
21838s	find him
21840s	anything his heart desires in his deck
21842s	there's any way to pay off uh all this
21844s	manner that he's gaining
21845s	uh whereas kwamu on the other side it's
21847s	just a pretty straightforward game plan
21849s	you play your clownfish you play your
21850s	gorlok ravager you hope to hit the other
21852s	clownfish you play that you play
21853s	whatever other murlocs you've got along
21855s	the way and then you just hope that
21858s	that's good enough to get there
21860s	always wonder what clownfish look like
21862s	now i know
21866s	i'm not salty about this deck at all
21869s	not at all all right
21872s	yeah absolutely what you said makes
21874s	sense
21876s	and i i i do think it's called for
21878s	average yeah
21884s	oh
21884s	[Music]
21888s	the thing is the druid plays so much
21890s	garbage that mutant is nowhere near the
21892s	card it was but he's gonna go for it
21894s	anyway yeah it's still good you know
21898s	yeah i just wasn't sure if you wanted to
21899s	play it in this instance on turn five
21902s	given that you had uh command of le
21904s	chalon into i don't know school teacher
21906s	nargling and then mutinous on turn seven
21910s	uh but you know if you can snipe a key
21911s	minion it's absolutely huge
21914s	yeah that's kind of what i meant it's um
21917s	worth taking the chance to some extent
21918s	but there's a good chance of just
21919s	hitting rubbish but also
21921s	you kind of assume that all the rubbish
21923s	will be on the board by now because the
21924s	druid needs to survive so
21927s	could eat something bigger there is not
21928s	a chondroitin hand that he could eat
21929s	right now
21933s	problem is that there's actually a
21934s	pretty sizable board left in play which
21936s	does make me think it might have to end
21938s	up being either command of neptulon or
21940s	maybe just fleurgal uh plus the amalgam
21944s	yeah
21946s	or you could go flergle frostbite on the
21949s	two three and then amalgam yeah
21952s	yeah
21953s	i think i agree
21958s	[Music]
21963s	i
21964s	don't actually hate finley
21967s	this hand feels
21969s	oh man i don't know like it's a slow
21971s	hand it's not like the mega pop off hand
21973s	but it's uh it's a reliable hand it's
21976s	it's a settlement
21977s	it's not super flashy super fancy it's
21980s	the person who you're with at the start
21982s	of a wrong comp not at the end
21985s	he is going for it though
21987s	all right
21988s	and i i kind of agree with what your
21990s	sentiment there which is good enough
21992s	should be okay here but i guess all the
21994s	ramp that alex has put out there has
21996s	swung the opinion
21999s	yay
22001s	you know again not a bad outcome uh
22003s	offer these options brand school teacher
22005s	is a powerful combo but it's a little
22007s	slow uh just a little ways off from
22009s	being able to get there whereas alex is
22011s	just slowly creeping up towards those
22014s	power plays now drawing some more cards
22017s	getting aquatic form to be able to find
22019s	the celestial alignment as well
22021s	or maybe just skipping it entirely
22023s	because with raid boss and nyxia in hand
22025s	uh this is just a pretty powerful set of
22027s	plays one after the other
22030s	yep absolutely and kwan wu really needs
22032s	to
22033s	start making some inroads into this um
22036s	health total we saw last game
22039s	the 10 health made no difference at all
22041s	uh it was the lack of card draw the lack
22042s	of cards really hurt alex here
22045s	we might see the other side of that coin
22047s	in this game where the extra 10 health
22048s	could absolutely be the thing that
22050s	allows him to hang in there
22056s	okay were you to play celestial
22059s	alignment on this turn what would happen
22061s	uh can't see his health total right now
22063s	uh and i can't remember five but 25 yeah
22066s	i think you can get away with that with
22068s	uh
22070s	a lady anacondra in hand
22072s	that definitely feels justifiable very
22074s	vig
22075s	anaconda in hand joey vig to follow up
22078s	too slow
22080s	i remember
22082s	i think so i think it was double
22083s	innovate that got this one going with
22085s	right okay i think
22088s	i've seen a lot of notices in this game
22090s	not gonna lie but i think it is yeah
22094s	alternatively you could go for a scale
22096s	of enyxia right now to clear things up
22098s	but with every single minion being at
22100s	three health uh that feels very very
22102s	inefficient
22104s	i like it i don't like it oh
22107s	really
22110s	man
22114s	that really felt like an alignment to me
22116s	you can go with lady anaconda plus
22118s	miracle growth next turn
22121s	yeah
22122s	into jerry being into maybe there wasn't
22124s	another nourish
22128s	even so it looked like you stabilized
22129s	pretty quickly there
22131s	okay well let's see if it works out
22134s	old strategy
22137s	so if you go bran plus
22140s	clownfish
22141s	get the mutants down to three mana so
22143s	it's not quite working
22147s	uh on this turn uh but you can get a lot
22149s	of stats in place so if you wanted to
22150s	just go as wide as possible it could end
22152s	up as
22154s	uh bran clownfish amalgam
22157s	hoped to hit like a four cost murloc to
22159s	get the full discount on the second
22161s	clownfish activation
22163s	yep you just get a load of stuff out
22165s	there i like it yeah yeah
22169s	i think that's better than just a
22171s	mutinous on average like they have a
22172s	discovered card in hand there's
22175s	you know a fair few
22177s	weak outcomes
22182s	taking the risk
22185s	this is basically
22187s	yeah that's a big whiff
22202s	i thought it's gonna be a guaranteed
22204s	alignment but
22206s	right but now that you have guff you do
22210s	actually have the possibility to go for
22211s	anacondra plus alignment on the same
22213s	turn
22214s	uh and then just go
22216s	anacondra alignment miracle growth hope
22218s	to hit some of the other powerful cards
22220s	uh but given the relative lack of
22222s	pressure on the board i do agree still
22225s	with this line you can just go guff
22226s	after the fact uh plus anacondra plus
22229s	miracle growth you know all the goodness
22230s	that we've talked about so many times
22236s	should be able to get going yeah alex is
22238s	feeling it finally
22239s	yeah basically no glove we're all good
22260s	okay i could see it being saved here for
22262s	a turn uh but there are some potentially
22264s	very very powerful draws in the nature
22266s	spell camp
22268s	and you know we'll sort out
22270s	more damage protection
22273s	and it looks like he's gonna get there
22274s	in this matter marathon series
22277s	looking good right now bolner is a
22280s	heartbreaker of an overdraw as well
22287s	we're looking at anything to be done
22289s	here
22290s	i mean you can stall you can stall to
22291s	your heart's content
22294s	i i just don't think in my experience it
22296s	gets there
22301s	there's a bigger and bigger snowfalls in
22303s	a couple of turns time they'll be pretty
22305s	massive with the brand but
22310s	at some point
22312s	the druid is just going to do you in one
22313s	turn
22332s	so his real choice is when to go wide
22334s	and when to start freezing and to play
22336s	the bran
22338s	does he want to try and go for some sort
22340s	of brand clownfish amalgam thing really
22342s	soon
22349s	all right i mean what are the outcomes
22351s	here that you could even hear
22352s	everything's gonna cost full manner
22355s	uh
22356s	still like the the scouts would give all
22358s	your murlocs rush but you don't actually
22360s	have that many murlocs left
22364s	okay
22368s	i'm really just not seeing it as these
22369s	are just powerful drawers after powerful
22371s	drawers available for alex he's not
22373s	going to slow down one iota
22376s	yeah he's got time he's got the other
22378s	alignment if he ever gets enough in
22379s	front that he's comfortable doing that
22381s	as well
22383s	just end on the other celestial
22384s	alignment as well actually for that
22385s	matter yeah i think so
22389s	yeah likes to wait one turn but it might
22391s	just well jam it now he's gonna jam it
22395s	yep send them back down to one
22397s	the only thing that you're afraid of
22399s	here
22399s	is a uh a big snowfall guardian in which
22402s	case you want to leave yourself at least
22404s	one spot on the board i'm gonna say and
22406s	as long as you do that i think you're
22408s	fine
22415s	okay
22417s	inky's got their direct might take a
22418s	while i think alex has finally got there
22423s	it has been tortuous for him though game
22426s	after game of top decks and not top
22428s	decking and burning wing conditions but
22431s	i think he's gonna get that compromise
22435s	does feel that way
22439s	again like i said leaving yourself one
22441s	board's face nicely done uh probably
22444s	doesn't matter that much anyway because
22445s	i don't think that a uh like an eight
22447s	eight snowfall guardian is able to carry
22450s	the game
22452s	but it's the best that kwanwu has and jp
22454s	needs to play around as much as possible
22457s	maybe the next one's bigger
22477s	sure let's do this
22480s	send it back to hand
22482s	again
22483s	start all over here
22489s	yeah you could go park panther park
22491s	panther uh rush them both in and deal
22494s	the six damage face
22496s	door
22497s	or or buff it up
22511s	find yourself a bit of direct damage to
22513s	end this more quickly
22516s	[Music]
22517s	yeah
22520s	collections
22522s	don't care just don't care fireballs
22525s	embers yeah yeah
22527s	don't care book don't care embers don't
22529s	care there you go that's my selections
22535s	yeah making space in the board nice
22548s	another full board freeze and a double
22550s	bath on the macor
22552s	uh which makes it pretty chunky indeed
22560s	before it gets literally disintegrated
22566s	there you go i cared really i was lying
22569s	all along
22571s	that seems relatively important to be
22573s	fair
22576s	uh
22577s	you can go obviously snowfall guardian
22580s	this turn and set up
22582s	i'm trying to think of is that any
22584s	nonsense with schooling yeah i was
22586s	trying to work out there's some sort of
22587s	fish fish bloodlust stupidness over too
22590s	yeah exactly
22593s	just not enough
22598s	i think as soon as this uh nine nine is
22600s	killed with vampiric fangs for example
22605s	juan was just completely out of options
22609s	this must be the way
22613s	obviously looking for book probably
22615s	right anything that means the game but
22617s	just just one name again the other book
22619s	the good book
22622s	good book
22625s	that teaches
22631s	there we go kwamu throws it down he
22633s	knows it's finally over and alex j
22636s	p my goodness what a debut match on
22640s	stream from that first
22642s	monumental game of hearthstone one of
22644s	the most crazy games i've ever seen
22646s	charming deck which ended in him
22648s	literally just like missing lethal uh in
22650s	order to close it out with a deck that
22652s	i've only ever seen him brought i
22654s	thought it was going to be a disaster
22656s	from there to be perfectly honest but uh
22658s	things slowly improved i think as the
22660s	series went on there was still some
22662s	jitters maybe at the start but as it
22664s	went on and on he really started to
22666s	solidify things and uh even though there
22668s	was still a couple points that i
22669s	disagreed with maybe in terms of the
22671s	timing of celestial alignment he managed
22673s	to get it through in the end and uh i'm
22676s	happy for it uh japan still in with a
22678s	shot at getting a player through to the
22679s	top 16
22680s	yeah and i think um the the draws didn't
22684s	help either player in that match either
22686s	they really made it difficult for them
22688s	like kwanwu's demon hunter draws those
22690s	first two games
22691s	well well all three games to be honest
22693s	but he got through we wanted were
22694s	absolutely horrific draws
22697s	and so
22699s	um it wasn't like particularly bad play
22701s	anything making that go on and on and on
22702s	it was just the decks weren't doing what
22705s	they're built to do and that was an
22707s	anomaly basically they've obviously been
22710s	doing it all tournament five and two six
22711s	and one players
22713s	but yeah the marathon direct that that
22715s	was that match i think i will remember
22717s	that for some time to come i think
22719s	yeah that was definitely one for the
22721s	ages uh and
22723s	uh very good job there to uh alex jp
22727s	wishing him the best of luck uh as he
22729s	has one final round of swiss to go
22732s	through uh to guarantee his spot in the
22734s	top 16. uh some really cracking matches
22736s	coming up you know we're still seeing
22738s	the rise of uh
22740s	one of the most phenomenal years of
22741s	competitive hearthstone of any player
22743s	and we're only halfway through it uh so
22745s	far for him uh as well as maybe
22749s	trying not to curse it too much
22751s	the chance of aipac to still take down a
22753s	monster
22755s	oh
22755s	we could it'll happen but yeah that was
22758s	a long enough match i think so we're
22761s	going to get round um eight set up for
22763s	you uh we will be back in a moment with
22764s	just a little bit more action from this
22766s	round while round eight is being set up
22768s	so don't go anywhere we're back in just
22769s	a minute with a little more action from
22771s	round number seven
22780s	[Music]
22785s	[Applause]
22786s	[Music]
22790s	in the darkest of seasons where ruthless
22794s	eyes gawk for horrific reasons
22798s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
22802s	with such
22803s	ruthlessness
22805s	so deep and profound
22809s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
22816s	to uncover the truth
22818s	of murder most
22821s	foul the anima drifts across the floor
22825s	highlighting the creatures who walked
22827s	through my door
22829s	the motives are as black as night
22833s	avarice power revenge and blight
22839s	we watch the hero
22841s	uncover the clues
22844s	that lead to the truth
22846s	behind this dark rooms
22851s	join us here with the grimm and in pious
22855s	choose your power without heavenly bias
22859s	for at the end
22861s	they will burn in the fire
22864s	when it is known who slayed
22867s	to nathrius
22869s	the sire
22871s	[Music]
22885s	[Music]
22893s	[Music]
22899s	[Music]
22955s	so
22957s	[Music]
22968s	welcome back we've replaced derrick with
22970s	sottle after that marathon absolutely
22973s	nutty gamble in that round the first
22976s	game being one of the most incredible
22978s	games i've seen in many many years
22981s	um subtle though is here to guide us
22983s	through the end of round seven so sort
22986s	of what we've got coming up
22987s	yeah there is not a whole lot left as
22991s	you may have gathered i'm sure lorinda
22993s	and derek have a good feel for after
22995s	casting the marathon series that they
22997s	had to settle in for did a great job uh
22999s	but we do have a little bit to wrap up
23001s	for you towards the end we are joining
23003s	game in progress virtuos versus da da
23007s	binx currently as you can see two to one
23009s	in favor of virtuous and we are going
23011s	into i believe a hunter versus mage
23015s	match up uh with it being the beast
23017s	hunter king crush mountain bear
23019s	hydraladon version of the deck uh going
23022s	up against a fairly standard looking big
23024s	spell mage only real talking point i
23026s	identified in this was
23028s	uh no finley in this case just double
23031s	pelican um as the one drops no finley
23034s	being played which uh you know i i
23036s	made my thoughts clear on finley have
23039s	done sort of generally as a card for
23041s	quite some time um obviously there are
23043s	draws that kind of bust your hand you
23045s	draw too many of the big spells you
23047s	don't have enough for belinda to go off
23048s	that kind of thing but you know there
23050s	are those kind of hands with every with
23052s	every single deck in the game and you
23053s	don't play finley in every single deck
23055s	in the game just to beat the bad draws i
23057s	think sometimes you just have to accept
23058s	those bad draws happen i think pelican
23061s	diver is a pretty strong card and i'm
23062s	pretty happy to see it here as a two-off
23064s	yeah i quite like the idea i've played a
23066s	lot of mage and i've only been playing
23067s	the one-off and two instantly make sense
23070s	to me i don't know why i wasn't doing it
23071s	all along actually now you mentioned it
23073s	like vib just editing my deck
23075s	um
23076s	the beast hunter though is something
23078s	that has interested me since we started
23081s	getting 40 card decks i felt that it
23084s	wasn't massively punished by going to 40
23086s	which he hasn't done here i'm slightly
23088s	surprised to see it being played in the
23090s	30 card format honestly but i know that
23093s	that's going to draw a negative reaction
23094s	so off you go subtle
23097s	stop trying to put 40 cards in linda
23100s	you've genuinely been playing card games
23103s	for longer than most people who are
23105s	watching this have been alive
23108s	you know
23110s	the rule like stop trying to put more
23112s	cards in decks it makes them worse
23115s	that's how it works
23116s	but if there's no deck to stop
23119s	this to be true i don't understand why
23122s	you're on the other side
23124s	come back
23127s	it's fine over here if this deck is
23129s	perfect with this glass is green there's
23131s	cats everywhere you'll love it okay
23134s	our big fat cat by the way is 7-0 just
23136s	talking cats everywhere this is as
23139s	as is habu gabu for a third top 16 in a
23144s	row now
23145s	absolutely nutty and winning a summer
23147s	champs thrown in the middle of that as
23149s	an extra just you know
23150s	uh cameo appearance as well
23154s	but we are getting into this game i have
23155s	been saved from the 40 card discussion i
23158s	don't like 40 cards it's just every time
23160s	we subtle the decks where it's
23161s	interesting to discuss come on
23165s	but 40 cards in hunter i don't know how
23168s	you expect me to react to that except
23170s	with baffling levels of vitriol that's
23173s	all that i can possibly come back with
23176s	and that's why we do it subtle oh okay
23178s	fine
23179s	that's the point
23181s	but here we go it has got a pretty tidy
23184s	looking start here for victorious uh
23186s	dada binks hard to tell how mailbox
23188s	dance is going to work out um
23192s	probably decent but we shall see i've
23194s	been saying how consistent i feel the
23196s	mage is compared to everybody else all
23199s	tournament and i have been proved
23200s	consistently wrong on stream so far
23204s	yeah it's not i know obviously i do like
23206s	to make fun of some of your hot takes
23208s	generally as a theme throughout most
23210s	tournaments it's not been a particularly
23213s	good one for you this tournament has it
23215s	in general and i feel that the weird
23217s	thing is is i didn't feel this like i
23219s	normally get a sense for when i'm doing
23220s	a hot take i read twitter and everyone
23222s	says luinda's an idiot you know
23224s	comments they start sending me messages
23227s	telling you to stop talking and stuff
23230s	i didn't feel this was a hot take i
23232s	thought that mage was genuinely the best
23234s	deck coming into this tournament and
23236s	everything i've seen has screamed at me
23238s	that i'm wrong
23240s	yeah i mean i i think it's fine i think
23242s	it's a good deck i think it's very
23243s	playable i'm definitely not criticizing
23245s	anyone for having it in their lineup but
23248s	i do think maybe best deck is just a
23251s	little step too far in my regard and
23253s	particularly i would say in this matchup
23256s	right which is not something again this
23258s	is not really i'm not saying you judge
23260s	mage by your your big beast hunter
23262s	matchup because you're not expecting to
23263s	face a massive amount of them but just
23266s	laser focusing it back on in the series
23267s	in front of us you do not want to be
23270s	playing this match up with the series on
23271s	the lines especially at four and two
23273s	when you are probably outright cooked if
23276s	you do not make want to make it uh to
23279s	top 16 from this position or i guess to
23281s	flip it into a positive light actually
23283s	just noticing that virtuos is paired
23284s	down in this one i think he's extremely
23287s	happy with the match up that he has now
23289s	to keep his hopes alive of making it
23291s	into that top 16. we are going to get
23294s	the test of the thing i have been saying
23296s	all tournament that is harder than the
23298s	thing you have been saying or tournament
23299s	though can you dump enough stuff often
23302s	enough to stop
23304s	the um the switch for your spells being
23306s	really cheap is the hunter going to be
23308s	caught with a coin or a tracking or
23310s	something in hand here or is it going to
23311s	dump and destroy its game plan these are
23314s	the situations i've more been trying to
23316s	highlight and here we are
23317s	yeah for sure um
23319s	it's
23320s	possible right it's a very weird turn
23323s	next turn if you want to play around the
23326s	barbara um but it is possible still uh
23329s	whether or not virtuous chooses to go
23331s	for that or whether he's just going to
23332s	go max tempo and just you know presume
23335s	he can beat the dragons or the the rune
23337s	if they do come down i think is the
23339s	debate um but certainly i think it is a
23342s	good point to raise because this is the
23344s	kind of deck with you know just a
23346s	mixture of spells right very similar to
23349s	what do we see demon hunter on the other
23350s	side
23351s	where there's always kind of a one or
23353s	two drop spell just hanging around on
23355s	board overall
23357s	so this really is decision time now you
23359s	can dump everything or you can just play
23361s	a big bear and try and hit him with it
23364s	and start setting up all of your
23366s	recursive beasty stuff
23368s	yeah
23371s	okay
23372s	well i'm being made apparently
23379s	if he is dumping would want some of the
23381s	cheaper stuff just to stay on board i
23383s	think although there's a spammy chilling
23385s	over there as well
23387s	there is that's true
23390s	the problem is
23392s	has zero mana devouring swarf in his
23394s	hand right so this is never going to be
23396s	fully dumpable i think that is just coin
23398s	tracking for the sake of coin tracking
23401s	really because devouring swarm is target
23403s	enemy minion there was not an enemy
23405s	minion so that card was always
23407s	going to get stuck in hand in that
23408s	position
23410s	barbara is always going to come down
23412s	big here between one and zero
23415s	one is the whiff yeah
23419s	dad i was excited he doesn't realize
23421s	there's a zero option he thinks that's
23422s	the good hit
23424s	yeah but that is a huge deal just being
23426s	one whole extra turn now where virtuos
23428s	gets to be ahead
23430s	because that might not be lasting for
23432s	too much longer
23435s	depending on how this rune goes on the
23437s	following turn
23439s	to go pretty well um bear not the best
23442s	thing for roon to go into because if it
23443s	hits things in the wrong order you just
23444s	don't clear but it's it's not a bad
23447s	chance
23449s	back up with a blade master khani and
23450s	see where you're at
23453s	and yeah
23455s	a chance of getting stabilized here
23458s	yeah little does da da know his best
23460s	player is actually just to play the
23461s	other barbara but that's never that's
23463s	that's another third play that no one
23465s	would ever make yeah
23469s	well it could just switch back with the
23470s	tracking you're back where you started
23473s	that's true actually yeah yeah that's a
23474s	good point i forgot about the tracking
23476s	about with a nine mana moon and feel
23477s	very silly
23479s	not that i've ever done that
23487s	eason
23489s	decent not
23491s	decent
23492s	i mean that's extremely good right like
23495s	yeah
23496s	that's really good
23498s	yeah sheeps is fine these first flames
23500s	though i think in terms of like
23502s	efficiency since you're casting like an
23504s	actual mana's worth of spells like one
23506s	mana for two damage to your opponent's
23507s	board is about as efficient as it gets
23509s	in terms of the spells that you can sure
23511s	that's right so i think you're never
23512s	particularly upset
23515s	nice goes into phase two where you kind
23517s	of do nothing for two turns again before
23519s	your deck really picks up as the mage
23522s	and down to 13 with just a hunter hero
23525s	power on the other side
23528s	yeah and just in terms of the build of
23530s	the deck this is a king crush deck from
23532s	virtuous on the other side so there is
23535s	still big potential of course that ice
23536s	barrier is now there so
23539s	does a functional 21 but it really only
23542s	takes one more board here from hunter i
23545s	would say one more board to stick over
23547s	the course of this game
23548s	and that early game damage that has gone
23550s	through that one extra turn from dardar
23553s	missing that flip on the zero
23556s	could end up being a really really big
23557s	deal here because of the extra damage
23559s	that was able to be pushed
23563s	a revive pet on the nargling that's a
23565s	big deal
23569s	okay
23572s	is it what actually died though
23576s	uh mountain bear no it turned into a
23578s	sheep oh it did good point yeah good
23580s	catch you're absolutely right
23585s	just revive your pet sheep one damage
23587s	might get
23591s	i have no there for games
23595s	no direct damage to speak of in the deck
23598s	as in that wouldn't involve procking the
23600s	barrier at some point
23603s	is going to need that board of which
23605s	subtle spake
23608s	you love a good spake
23610s	uh-huh
23612s	i catch up on my spake
23615s	don't start
23618s	oh not only is it such a bad joke but
23620s	it's a bad joke where you know it annoys
23622s	me as well in terms of what you're
23624s	referring to
23626s	plan with no drawbacks yeah
23635s	pelican coming in handy here big time
23638s	gonna buy yet another turn most likely
23644s	so i think he's still in the buying time
23645s	right he's not in the ascendancy yet
23649s	you mean yeah
23650s	yeah i think so um
23653s	finding a free turn to be significantly
23655s	ahead and just getting dawngrass down
23657s	potentially
23658s	uh could be of course incredibly
23660s	powerful but right now he is just trying
23662s	to build pressure wherever possible but
23665s	when you're at 13 i don't think you can
23667s	ever be particularly comfortable i don't
23668s	think you'll ever really feel like
23670s	you're in the ascendancy against hunter
23671s	particularly when there's that uh
23674s	evergreen threat of the king crush
23676s	coming out
23678s	yeah what am i seeing what um damage
23680s	goes into these narglings course
23682s	two hero powers and some direct damage
23684s	away from not even having to worry about
23685s	the
23687s	the barrier not having to worry about
23688s	anything just yeah true his face
23693s	he's got enough removal to keep going in
23695s	terms of mediocre minions
23698s	i have no time for games
23702s	okay yeah
23704s	deal with this you know there's two
23705s	narglings in hand you don't know what
23706s	they do
23718s	dawn grass time i'm guessing it's dawn
23719s	grasp time
23720s	health total starting to get a little
23722s	scary
23724s	if only he knew he could have flamed and
23726s	then played the barber and got another
23728s	zero mana room we talked about that
23730s	before but yeah yeah he knows there's a
23732s	nine mana tracking so sure
23740s	well underwhelming would be the word
23742s	that comes to mind
23752s	i feel like i just had a whole two hours
23754s	of this
23755s	this dex unable to get a killer blowing
23758s	getting so close and then just like
23760s	trickling along but the mage will murder
23763s	somebody quickly if you let them have
23764s	more many more turns
23766s	that is true i mean but honestly so the
23768s	hunter like the the sunken saber is
23770s	right there right like that at any point
23772s	could just be summoning the king crash
23774s	if a king crush gets to die there's a
23776s	revived pet in the nargling like this
23778s	damage can go from zero to a thousand
23780s	super quick
23800s	i'm getting excited about what's in the
23801s	box subtle i wonder what's in there
23807s	i have to play the barber right
23810s	barbara what am i doing
23813s	the belinda
23817s	melinda carlisle as opposed to barbra
23819s	streisand you know you've got you've got
23821s	your power ballads mixed up uh-huh
23824s	great
23834s	just pumping some heaven is a place on
23836s	earth and you're circling the sand here
23838s	let's go
23839s	well he's actually heard music everyone
23842s	he's actually done uh huh
23846s	come on give me some credit for knowing
23848s	something once
23850s	i just had to pitch it enough decades in
23852s	the past that it actually hit the sweet
23854s	spot of things that you recognized
23857s	oh
23859s	there it is slushy boy
23862s	that is one crushy boy
23873s	devouring
23875s	uh-huh
23878s	gargling revive pair hear crush both
23881s	times uh-huh
23884s	seems pretty straightforward to me why
23886s	haven't we done it yet
23888s	cheap
23890s	there we go there's one there's a dead
23892s	king crush let's revive some pets
23894s	i nominate sheep
23896s	revive pets
23899s	oh unlucky okay fine
23904s	let's revive some pets
23907s	oh come on
23909s	what do you mean
23912s	oh wow
23915s	this is just
23916s	the theme for the round that i've been
23919s	starting
23921s	over
23922s	you're not clear yet sunshine hold on
23925s	just a second there is another king
23927s	crush that's gone back into the hand
23928s	that you know about
23932s	it'll be fine just play roon couple of
23935s	pirate blasts sort it out
23937s	pink face done
23938s	i was gonna say um but no actually
23941s	technically that would win the game yes
23946s	nah
23947s	we don't want to see this one boo
23949s	it's probably correct but you know
23954s	ah
23955s	okay
23957s	was it correct
23963s	situation unclear
23967s	okay primordial drake big big deal
23973s	i know you could check those and your
23974s	previous spell costs zero
23976s	yeah it doesn't actually do anything
23978s	right now no i'm not really sure what
23982s	the consideration is i think you have to
23983s	take the tort minion
23988s	okay that pews the right pews
23992s	no it didn't it didn't no
23994s	no it didn't
24006s	what's in the other knuckling that's the
24009s	questions a long time ago at this point
24012s	um i feel like it was like just a source
24014s	of three damage or something in which
24016s	case this would be
24017s	no it still wouldn't be lethal i feel
24019s	like we never saw it
24020s	we did see it which could be huge here
24022s	actually
24023s	um
24027s	yeah because of that that does it that's
24029s	exact lethal nine plus five gets to go
24031s	face
24035s	seven goes in one goes in nine and five
24037s	go face for the exact 14 that you need
24039s	that is an absurd ending to the game it
24042s	felt like when double revived pet double
24045s	whiffed on the crushers
24047s	the the dada bings might just be in
24049s	trouble uh but there you go take a
24051s	lesson from that by the way da da bings
24053s	even though this was only being recorded
24055s	as a backup game still got his moment in
24057s	to wave goodbye and send the heart and
24059s	say goodbye to the camera and maximizing
24061s	their screen time and why not but yeah
24062s	good performance as i said going into
24064s	that virtuose was the paired down player
24067s	um which being paired down late in the
24069s	game late in the tournament
24071s	feels really tough because you know you
24074s	know for a fact even though you're
24076s	picking up your second loss late no shot
24078s	right because of the pair down your tie
24080s	breakers just probably are just never
24082s	going to get there in that spot so going
24084s	into the end of the series 2-1 up and
24086s	getting this match up which i think we
24088s	saw here from virtuos with the king
24090s	crush in the deck when you go with this
24091s	variation there's just so many ways to
24094s	take over the board and be dominant just
24095s	a little bit quicker than your opponent
24097s	was able to do because that was kind of
24099s	big spell mage working right barbara
24102s	came down the spells flipped it was rude
24104s	and it wasn't dragons fair you know you
24106s	can have that if you really want to and
24108s	but you know was above average draw from
24110s	the the big spell mage it made stuff
24112s	happen and the the hunter was just
24114s	bullying it for the vast majority of the
24115s	game
24116s	yeah and i think that the hunter has
24118s	been
24119s	underrepresented this time when we've
24121s	seen it it's looked pretty good so far i
24123s	think
24124s	but there's plenty more to come i'm
24127s	gonna get out of this round because we
24128s	seem to have had every single game go to
24131s	all kinds of weirdness so round seven is
24134s	over habugabu seven and zero once again
24137s	let's get on with round eight see if you
24139s	can do the clean sweep see you soon
24143s	[Music]
24150s	[Music]
24155s	[Applause]
24155s	[Music]
24158s	welcome to raven dress in the darkest of
24161s	seasons where ruthless eyes gawk for
24165s	horrific reasons
24167s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
24171s	with such ruthlessness
24174s	so deep and profound
24178s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
24186s	to uncover the truth
24188s	of murder most foul
24191s	the anima drifts across the floor
24194s	highlighting the creatures who walked
24197s	through my door
24199s	the motives are as black as night
24202s	avarice power revenge and blight
24208s	we watch the hero
24211s	uncover the clues
24213s	that lead to the truth
24216s	behind this dark blues
24220s	join us here with the grimm and empires
24225s	choose your power without heavenly bias
24229s	for at the end
24230s	they will burn in the fire
24234s	when it is known whose slayed
24237s	tenacious
24238s	[Music]
24254s	[Music]
24263s	[Music]
24266s	[Applause]
24268s	[Music]
24293s	so
24296s	[Music]
24337s	hello everyone and welcome back to the
24339s	final round of swiss for this weekend of
24342s	course we'll be coming to top 16
24344s	tomorrow but for now one more round to
24346s	go i'm raven and joining me is gia and
24348s	we have the pleasure of bringing you a
24350s	hearthstone match between two of
24352s	potentially the greatest named
24353s	hearthstone players in the world it's a
24355s	very fat cat versus fire noodle uh which
24359s	is
24360s	just it's just great already it's going
24362s	to be a good series gr feeling i've
24364s	already got this very vivid imagery of
24366s	indeed a very fat cat trying to eat a
24369s	bowl of spicy noodles that's how i would
24371s	interpret fire noodle and that probably
24374s	doesn't work out well for the cat in the
24375s	end so that's how i'm basing my analysis
24378s	for this one raven fire noodle's
24379s	favorite yeah it's almost like a
24381s	lose-lose scenario the noodles get eaten
24383s	right so that's a bit of a downside but
24386s	then the cat suffers for it so i will
24388s	have to see how this series plays out
24391s	but just looking at the lineups overall
24393s	as usual with most masters tours
24396s	especially because when they're situated
24397s	throughout the year and lineups are a
24399s	big talking point right and especially
24400s	when we had quite a big meta change last
24403s	week both of these players though
24405s	bringing generally aggressive lineups
24407s	i'd even go as far to say that the
24409s	presta druid feels like uh close to an
24412s	aggro deck even if it's not strictly one
24414s	in itself so do you think either player
24417s	has much of an edge here especially now
24419s	we see bands of the mid-range chairman
24420s	gone from fat cat and i think the rogue
24423s	band away from fire noodle
24426s	that's a close one because i am of the
24428s	opinion that prester druid beats
24430s	everything except celestial druid and
24432s	i'm of the opinion that big spell mage
24434s	is also a very good deck in general
24436s	although the data doesn't necessarily
24438s	support those two statements i made the
24440s	other um
24442s	interesting talking point here is that
24444s	both players they're only class in
24446s	common is rogue and now that's out of
24448s	the way for one of our players we're
24450s	gonna be seeing different classes all
24452s	around for very fat cat he's opted for
24454s	shaman priest and mage to go with the
24456s	rogue and fire noodle has hunter prester
24458s	druid and demon hunter looking at it
24461s	again for fire noodle this beast hunter
24463s	i can definitely see struggling i know
24465s	we just watched it take a very
24467s	convincing win just a while ago but in
24469s	general i feel its power level in the
24471s	meta is a bit lower than it was a couple
24474s	weeks ago
24476s	it's really interesting isn't it because
24477s	when we looked at and this was only
24479s	yesterday's results not including
24481s	today's of course but
24482s	the hunter was actually really up there
24484s	in terms of win rate overall and much
24487s	higher than the likes of mage for
24489s	example that everyone thought was going
24490s	to be good so it does get very
24492s	interesting when bands are included
24494s	lineups are made uh you can really see
24497s	the difference of sort of a ladder deck
24499s	opinion and a
24501s	specific meta for this tournament uh
24504s	deck actually working out okay so we'll
24506s	see after uh we'll have to see sorry how
24508s	it goes uh finally they're gonna be
24510s	playing the fell demon hunter another
24512s	deck that i'm actually a big fan of
24513s	we've seen it get a lot of work done and
24516s	we've also seen it struggle a little bit
24517s	especially versus some of the other
24519s	aggro decks that can go a bit wide a
24521s	little bit too fast because it is a deck
24524s	like weirdly enough now that does
24526s	struggle just a little bit of actually
24528s	taking down multiples of wide boards
24531s	without already being massively ahead
24533s	themselves
24534s	that is true the demon hunter is able to
24538s	go wide
24539s	mostly off the back of the battles
24542s	battleborn vanguard in the early game
24544s	outside of that having maybe early
24546s	metamorphins can help a bit but they do
24549s	transition away from the borg based game
24551s	plan a little bit later on so if they're
24553s	able to hit the best of both worlds with
24555s	that early board and then just uh go for
24558s	burst damage usually off the back of
24561s	dread prison glaive then they can come
24563s	out on top but
24565s	the rogue i think can go wide as well as
24569s	boat rogue and you know it's just the
24571s	minions are generally of a high enough
24573s	health total and quantity that even with
24576s	glaive multi-strike it's not necessarily
24578s	efficient enough of an answer uh by the
24580s	demon hunter yeah i completely agree it
24583s	feels like rogue is just that lit it
24585s	just does that little bit extra to make
24587s	it a pain for demon hunter to deal with
24589s	but looking at the mulligans very fat
24591s	cat just gonna keep hold of that
24592s	extortion here as we move into game
24594s	number one uh fire noodle keeping the
24597s	the good cards in the early game with
24598s	dread prison glaive and fossil fanatic
24601s	picked up a sigil as well so i think
24604s	just a quick glance there both players
24607s	having very reasonable mulligans indeed
24611s	to begin with although very fat cats
24613s	hand post mulligan feeling not too great
24616s	of course that can change depending on
24618s	the quality of minion he gets from the
24620s	shroud of concealment but for now on top
24622s	of having a not very effective hero
24624s	power from maestra the warrior he could
24627s	be giving time to fire noodle to maybe
24629s	get something going the double sigil of
24632s	alacrity is pretty good i expect one to
24634s	be played out here there's a
24635s	consideration of pre-equipping dread
24638s	prison glaive and then following up with
24639s	fossil fanatic but i do feel like the
24641s	glaive can get a bit more value than
24643s	just activating a card draw with that
24645s	tutu so i prefer the sigil here
24648s	yeah i agree just getting more draw in
24650s	hand as quickly as possible another
24652s	trade with the uh extortion here and
24655s	does
24657s	and nice and early as well and a very
24659s	significant amount of health on this
24661s	which is going to make it that little
24662s	bit more difficult for fire noodle to
24664s	come out ahead on the board
24669s	that's a cheap and fossil fanatic which
24670s	is a pretty good outcome not necessarily
24672s	for this turn because it does feel like
24674s	fire noodle has to commit the clear of
24676s	fel barrage coin hero power or dread
24679s	prison glaive uh but next turn
24681s	potentially if say he equips dread
24683s	prison this turn um he can go double
24686s	fossil fanatic on turn three with that
24688s	swing for two draws of fell spells
24690s	yeah i think at a glance it feels like a
24692s	bad dread prison glaive but the more you
24695s	think about it is one the mana is spent
24698s	and their weapon just stays equipped
24699s	which is good and as you pointed out
24701s	quite rightly the fossil fanatics uh
24703s	combo coming out next turn will be huge
24706s	for fire noodle been able to only get
24708s	some board presents
24709s	but drawing those additional cards so
24711s	although this is weak ish when you just
24713s	see that one damage hit in the face um
24715s	it's still gonna be a worthwhile
24717s	investment here for fire noodle very fat
24720s	cat though gonna just instantly go for
24722s	that prep shroud not too much of a
24724s	surprise after seeing the null used just
24726s	to try and get some of those minions in
24728s	play asap
24730s	knowing it's a shroud turn fire noodle
24732s	should be pretty happy because outside
24733s	of the other knoll and maestro no other
24736s	minions would be playable with only two
24738s	mana left so we do see a pretty average
24741s	outcome from fat cat getting the four
24743s	drops here and fire noodle has set up a
24746s	board state where a fat cat doesn't
24747s	answer so much value is to be gained
24750s	from the fossil fanatics and it's
24753s	expensive for fat cat to answer this he
24755s	could prep out a stab alongside playing
24757s	um one of his four drops
24759s	alternatively he could just play a four
24761s	drop and accept that fire noodle gets
24763s	minimum two more fell spells
24766s	yeah i wonder even if at this point it's
24769s	worth just playing van cleef
24771s	see what the drawer is see if prep helps
24773s	with that and if not then just decide
24776s	whether you want to prep out the stab
24778s	i can definitely see it because okani is
24780s	not looking great here if you counter
24782s	spell you know there's definitely a
24784s	cheap spell that fire noodle can use
24786s	before and then if you counter minion
24789s	you know that fire noodle can very
24790s	likely kill the okani before anything is
24792s	countered in the first place so he is
24794s	going to go okani and maybe make the
24798s	uh
24799s	use of resources for fire noodle a bit
24800s	more expensive because now he's down to
24802s	one fanatic
24808s	i think at this point if the uh
24810s	i think the sigil is actually the
24812s	throwaway card right because once you
24814s	start adding up all of this damage it
24816s	starts to get pretty brutal indeed it's
24818s	just how much power you can chuck out
24820s	while still having two kale strikes for
24821s	card draw the fossil fanatic will still
24824s	be on the board for one more card draw
24826s	so
24828s	i don't know if you agree but i'm liking
24829s	the look of testing the sigil
24832s	i did also like that the problem is
24834s	whether or not you use the sigil to test
24836s	knowing that one spell would essentially
24838s	just go away there is no way for fire
24841s	noodle to get the multi-strike to
24844s	perfectly honorable kill the okani and
24846s	then also go face with the dread prison
24849s	glaive unless he commits the fanatic in
24852s	but then he doesn't get the foul spell
24854s	draw
24858s	actually a very tricky turn oh okay i
24861s	see he's using the second multi-strike
24863s	hit and gives up on
24865s	the honorable kill but instead gets
24867s	another fel spell in hand which i think
24869s	is a very clever line
24871s	yeah just maximizing that card draw to
24874s	get going cat on the other side here
24875s	does get an extortion nice pickup
24878s	actually from the vancleeve just to whip
24879s	that in that one turn and now van cleef
24882s	is a pretty formidable amount of stats
24884s	here at six health is killable but again
24888s	the more fire noodle puts into this
24890s	minion again
24891s	the less damage he's actually pumping
24893s	out to the face
24895s	and it looks like he will have to face
24897s	tank um at least
24900s	once the edwin here unless he wants to
24902s	play a three cross predation doesn't
24903s	feel great might end up being fel
24905s	barrage chaos strike sigil so in that
24908s	world you would start with chaos strike
24910s	just to see what you get it would bring
24911s	him down to 16 which is very dangerous
24913s	territory but the upshot for fire noodle
24916s	is with all these fel spell cycle he's
24918s	getting closer to finding uh kurtris
24921s	finding jace which are the high impact
24923s	cards here more so curtis because jace
24925s	is a pretty long way off from being
24927s	played right
24929s	is there
24930s	any benefit of obviously you go chaos
24933s	strike and just see what you draw anyway
24934s	make a decision from there but is there
24937s	any chance fire noodle just ships all
24939s	possible damage to the face
24941s	and just
24943s	on top of seeing what the drawer is of
24944s	course yeah there's a chance but looking
24947s	at it again i don't think he wins that
24949s	race with this hand if he leaves the
24950s	edwin up
24954s	he is
24955s	sort of forced onto the clear here going
24957s	to take down the edwin and leaves fat
24959s	cat with a pretty clean setup for empty
24963s	board krabatoa if he wants it
24966s	yeah and these are the games where
24968s	they don't look like anything special
24970s	from rogue but when rogue can just
24972s	play something every turn more or less
24975s	it does start to add up right they do
24977s	become looking very efficient there's
24980s	curtris though
24981s	huge one of the best possible draw yeah
24983s	that ends that no i think we're really
24985s	the only ways that fire noodle could get
24987s	away with clearing the board without
24989s	taking too much damage
24991s	not sure how big the bats are but
24993s	probably big enough to deal with the
24995s	main body crab
24996s	yeah they've got to be at least five
24998s	because he's used a
25000s	multi-strike and he's attacked like
25003s	nearly every turn of the game so far so
25006s	i feel like they have to be five
25009s	six four here looks like so can take
25011s	down main body crab then hero power one
25013s	of the claws which then allows your
25015s	other bat to value trade the other claw
25018s	it would mean fire noodle takes two
25020s	damage from the attack and then two
25022s	damage from the weapon that would be
25023s	left with fat cat next turn but i think
25026s	it's well worth it to seize backboard
25028s	control and anyway he gets the five
25029s	armor yeah one hundred percent out
25032s	without that kirchhoff all this athena
25034s	as you mentioned you'd be taking a whole
25036s	lot more damage than four so i think
25038s	that's a trade-off you are willing to
25040s	make
25041s	whoa whoa whoa he's hero powering first
25044s	which means he values the attack on his
25046s	bats more so than two health which i'm
25049s	not sure i agree with
25052s	wait isn't he just
25054s	okay
25055s	the one extra damage on the bat for two
25058s	extra damage to himself
25060s	hmm yeah i i i was shaking the head from
25063s	fire noodle there as well i think he was
25064s	like oh that was uh
25066s	not one
25068s	yeah i really don't think so especially
25069s	given only one bat sticks and it's at
25071s	two health it's unlikely that that gets
25073s	to go face and even if it does i doubt
25075s	that one damage is valuable or more
25078s	valuable than fire noodle's own health
25080s	but uh
25082s	despite all that 16 still is a
25084s	reasonable total here especially since
25085s	fat cat ends up having a very slow turn
25087s	he has tyrion after this but it
25089s	conflicts with this gap stirring so i
25091s	think fire noodle has a very
25094s	real shot at coming back on this he
25096s	needs pretty good draw though
25102s	still thinking about stano or zlag would
25104s	have been ideal this turn but obviously
25106s	not available he can
25108s	cycle with chaostrike to try and find
25110s	something a bit better
25115s	yeah tough decision point here for fire
25118s	noodle
25119s	even a world where you can just get away
25121s	with playing a predation for three mana
25123s	if he really has to just to kill off a
25125s	three one
25127s	now i'm starting to wonder if the face
25129s	game plan you talked about has any merit
25131s	in this spot raven because
25134s	um he can go for a multi-strike battle
25136s	sworn vanguard and set up a board at
25138s	least that makes it very difficult for
25140s	um fat cat to
25142s	come back
25144s	um
25144s	the one ones would trade well against
25146s	the philly fighters but of course they
25147s	are gonna deal their six damage which
25149s	puts fire noodle within range of says uh
25152s	my smite shadow steps might blackwater
25155s	cutlass
25157s	i think the important thing for fire
25158s	noodle here is to get that metamorphin
25160s	down and taunt
25162s	they did get the naga as well so we just
25164s	have to it's enough to pay any mana for
25166s	the predation which is a very very nice
25168s	indeed
25170s	it's gonna get
25171s	oh
25172s	oh okay okay not prioritizing more
25175s	aggressive
25178s	right now sets up a pretty threatening
25180s	board of his own but we can see the
25182s	scabs for fat cat is going to return all
25185s	this to hand
25187s	if you want
25191s	is that better than just playing tyrion
25192s	as the question because certainly tirion
25194s	has the benefits of just getting that
25196s	5'3 weapon online one turn sooner if you
25200s	play that over scabs and
25202s	fire noodles only at 11.
25207s	yeah interestingly enough could also
25209s	like
25210s	period and equip the weapon right just
25212s	to put them below 10 or 10 or below
25215s	so that
25216s	if tyrion goes down it's like swing and
25219s	then scabs and then swing again
25221s	maybe
25223s	there's also some merit to treating the
25225s	cutlass
25229s	other relevant cards would be any form
25232s	of reach spell here
25234s	i think there's still another knoll in
25236s	the deck as well
25240s	really tricky as well because if he
25241s	commits to the
25243s	trade then you just can't choose to go
25245s	scouts this turn it's just gonna dagger
25247s	which again does the same thing i
25248s	suppose is the cutlass so uh either or
25251s	as long as that puts the opponent down
25253s	to two swings worth of the weapon
25256s	this looks
25257s	pretty clear-cut for me right the tyrion
25260s	dies
25262s	there's gonna be weapon swing scabs to
25264s	bounce everything and gain some armor
25266s	and then just swing again
25267s	there is but firing noodle has tons of
25269s	damage due to the refreshing of his hero
25272s	power available he can trade down the
25274s	tyrion on
25276s	board right yeah he have to give up his
25278s	two one but i think it's fine
25280s	just don't take the damage
25285s	uh you can get the metamorphin down
25287s	which is amazing
25292s	oh sorry he can trade the vicious
25293s	slither spear instead of the two one
25295s	instead which is
25296s	probably better
25301s	not far off from lethal himself is fire
25303s	noodle
25306s	it's always difficult to just estimate
25308s	the actual damage that can be kicked out
25310s	on a board like this from a curtris so
25313s	it is looking
25314s	okay for now it's gonna get the taunt up
25318s	as well which is a huge deal to block
25320s	this ashbringer at least try to
25323s	we can see it won't happen of course
25325s	with the scabs but still
25328s	okay i miscounted he did need to trade
25330s	both of the two attack minions which is
25333s	not ideal but it does get most of the
25336s	job done fairy fat cat going to trade
25338s	his cutlass first although i don't think
25340s	there's anything better than scabs to
25342s	play this turn
25344s	and that is one mana i mean like off of
25348s	lethal technically like if he had the
25350s	rank three wickets tab it would be
25352s	lethal here oh sure yeah i was like wait
25354s	a minute how does that work
25357s	one empty amount of crystal off yeah
25358s	there we go
25361s	now
25362s	yeah with the armor the stealth minions
25365s	so many of those fell spells already
25367s	used is just not going to be good enough
25368s	and very fat cat takes game number one
25372s	against the noodle
25374s	very close one
25376s	oh no the imagery has returned
25378s	i've heard that there's some people who
25380s	disagree with my assessment that a a cat
25383s	would beat a very spicy noodle in a
25385s	fight i mean i guess it depends how you
25387s	would define a winner right because
25389s	certainly the noodle does get eaten but
25391s	the damage to the cat afterward is yeah
25394s	it's just mutually assured destruction i
25396s	think at that point uh neither
25399s	contestant in that in that battle would
25402s	really be the winner yeah but you are
25404s	right very very close game uh really
25407s	came down to like weirdly enough tyrion
25409s	into scabs was what really sealed the
25411s	deal there for fat cat with no real way
25413s	for fire noodle to respond outside of as
25415s	you mentioned at jace it just wasn't
25418s	quite good enough so big win there uh
25421s	rogue again has been doing well it does
25423s	do well in this matchup but we have seen
25426s	it lose on stream before so good to just
25428s	get the uh the rogue out of the way it
25430s	looks like fat cat now he's gonna jump
25432s	over to wig priest a deck that uh i
25435s	believe our
25436s	friendly gabby decided to tweet out that
25439s	everyone was terrible if they brought
25441s	this priest which is uh interesting
25443s	because very fat cat has been doing very
25445s	well this tournament yeah amongst other
25447s	players who are on the wig priest train
25449s	fury hunter habukabu among the most
25451s	notable
25452s	uh of them i think my priest is fine
25456s	it's just one of those decks that you
25457s	know the data supports it but a lot of
25460s	people don't end up bringing it because
25462s	its losses feel really bad right i think
25464s	it's even similar to the old token druid
25467s	back in the day where if you don't draw
25469s	your glowfly you really feel like you're
25471s	completely helpless and this deck if you
25473s	don't draw your curve and your wig you
25475s	also feel really helpless but you hit
25478s	those um good draws often enough to
25481s	support it being a decent bring to a
25483s	tournament in my opinion um
25485s	that being said if fire noodle is
25487s	choosing to run it back with the demon
25489s	hunter the priest doesn't have quite a
25492s	good match up there in my opinion
25494s	yeah it does look like he's actually
25495s	going to be jumping over to the druid
25497s	here for this game so he is going to be
25500s	on that lady presta druid i know uh you
25503s	think the deck's very powerful uh is it
25505s	going to be good versus priest because
25507s	again there's that x factor of this deck
25510s	where they do get to just very
25511s	consistently play a curve out to at
25513s	least try and contest versus this priest
25516s	yeah like i said i'm doubling down
25518s	prester druid is favored against
25520s	everything except celestial druid that's
25523s	my opinion is unfavored against
25525s	everything apart from presta
25528s	well i wouldn't go so far as to say that
25530s	celestial still beats bar priest and so
25532s	on but uh oppressor druid can certainly
25535s	struggle against the amazing opener from
25538s	the wig priest which is slitherspear and
25540s	insta wig and they got really ahead but
25543s	that's not the average draw from the wig
25545s	priest
25546s	prester druid will find lady presser on
25549s	average and they also run double
25550s	starfish which is an amazing card to
25552s	contest against wig priest on top of the
25555s	various rush minions here
25557s	we also have the double iron deep trog
25560s	in the list for fire noodle which i know
25562s	a lot of people have favored dropping
25564s	but it can be kind of useful if you're
25566s	going first against wig priest
25570s	yeah although
25571s	speaking about good openings a very fat
25574s	cat has the slither spare wig open which
25576s	is really what you're looking for fire
25579s	noodle does have druid of the reef on
25581s	offer uh which is definitely a really
25583s	strong one drop four just shutting down
25585s	any early aggression from your opponent
25588s	but i just can't help but stare at the
25590s	slyther spear wig combo it's so strong
25593s	it really is the mulligan for fire
25595s	noodles actually super interesting
25596s	because gerrit of the reef i don't feel
25598s	there's something you want to play going
25599s	first as the um presser drew it i think
25602s	you'd rather have that in rush mode
25604s	maybe you could play it as a three one
25605s	on turn one and it's not terrible and
25607s	then you have jerry rigg and prester
25609s	where the jerry rig is only in the deck
25610s	to find cool tooth mine to find prester
25613s	so by keeping prester you can sort of
25615s	eliminate some steps and some mana you
25618s	need to spend to actually find the
25619s	presser but then the cherry rig is a
25621s	guaranteed decent thing to do that
25623s	cycles on turn two so you can make the
25625s	argument for keeping it you could argue
25627s	even throw away prester if you are going
25630s	to pull um her back with the jerry rig
25633s	anyway but uh it looks like fire noodle
25635s	here just favors keeping the guaranteed
25638s	curve into prester and is hoping to find
25640s	innervate slash mailbox dancer naturally
25645s	my god look at this hand
25647s	double wig i'm looking
25652s	all right this is an above average draw
25654s	professor drew it's still favored trust
25656s	trust
25657s	double wig and handmaiden
25659s	in the opening with slitherspay
25661s	i don't think you can really ask for a
25663s	better opening than that
25666s	no there simply isn't one
25669s	okay there is like replacing bless with
25672s	water scribes
25673s	here oh okay oh my god oh my god why did
25676s	i say it why do i this is the first
25679s	presser druid game i've got to cast all
25681s	weekend i was so excited but it's
25682s	getting bullied here
25684s	oh okay the starfish although maybe not
25686s	useful yet
25688s	uh tough to turn down though because it
25691s	is just on curve it's a
25693s	okay static minion not great but okay
25697s	they're kind of difficult because
25699s	is fire noodle gonna
25703s	spend this turn getting cold of golf is
25705s	he going to spend this turn just playing
25707s	a 2-1 if not playing the starfish it
25709s	none of this really feels great does it
25712s	yeah it's super awkward because if you
25714s	play the jerry rig carpenter
25716s	this turn you are kind of committing to
25718s	cold tooth on the next turn to find the
25720s	guff if you go about it this way um you
25724s	don't necessarily have something to do
25726s	on formatted anyway but i do favor uh
25728s	for sure holding onto starfish i think
25730s	it gets stronger by a wide margin later
25734s	on
25735s	okay this is prester next turn now
25745s	dancer jerry rig
25747s	seems non-negotiable to me here right
25752s	yeah hero power doesn't really achieve
25753s	anything at all does it so
25759s	okay back over to fat cat he has radiant
25763s	now as well so i think because he knows
25766s	fire noodle has set up for a prester on
25768s	the next turn what he wants to do is set
25770s	up the most threatening board possible
25773s	and that can definitely be achieved
25775s	with the radiant another slither spear
25778s	and
25779s	the fact that he can gain himself a coin
25782s	this turn by killing off the male box
25784s	dancer
25786s	it's so strong isn't it radiant wig wig
25791s	play this little spear go again and then
25793s	still review your options from there
25795s	this maiden can easily go into the
25798s	mailbox dancer if that's what fat cat
25800s	wants to do
25802s	yeah
25804s	potentially not trading here because the
25805s	extra mana doesn't do that much this
25808s	turn if it allowed him to play
25810s	handmaiden then sure uh but i think the
25813s	coin is more value or that last man i
25815s	thought was going to be valued on bliss
25817s	instead but fat cat is gonna hold off on
25819s	that he can still play it by trading the
25821s	handmaiden into mailbox dancer
25826s	if one is going here i'm almost certain
25827s	that's taking the value trade then
25831s	it looks like it
25833s	gonna be the devour on the elemental as
25835s	well and this is such a good setup
25840s	yikes
25841s	yeah i was okay ignore that bit but i
25844s	was going to say this is such a good
25846s	setup because
25848s	holding the bless normally if you even
25850s	remotely afraid of the starfish you can
25852s	just bless on a turn where you get to
25854s	push a ton of damage instead of you know
25856s	just okay and he put forward a very
25859s	aggressive board into this presta which
25861s	was exactly what you said he should be
25862s	trying to do unfortunately missed the
25864s	extra damage from the attack but this is
25866s	still a big pop-off turn from fat cat
25869s	gosh how much damage is it he has this
25871s	lithosphere as well which is going to
25873s	keep growing we have wig wig velish
25878s	there is still lots to be done here
25880s	i don't know if it's 20 20 might be
25883s	lethal probably
25887s	lethal oh devour yeah that's gotta be
25890s	yeah with devourer it must be
25892s	yeah i was just about oh there's still i
25894s	didn't see the priestess wasn't played
25896s	yet either this is lethal it just simply
25898s	is it's getting close and i forgot there
25900s	was a priestess to be played with more
25902s	wigs though yes this looks fine to me
25910s	devour bless
25912s	go face
25914s	that's litherspear
25915s	all the way up to what 14 attack 15 at
25918s	the attack by the end of this turn 16 17
25920s	i don't know it's just online
25922s	it doesn't matter if you miss the six
25925s	it's fine just don't miss click bless on
25927s	it
25930s	okay fat cat with a big smile at the end
25933s	there i'm sure beating himself up a
25935s	little bit
25938s	never mind the rest yeah a little bit um
25940s	of a slip in the previous turn but more
25943s	than made up for it by a very clean very
25946s	uh
25947s	maybe not over complicated but still a
25950s	mechanically dependent turn right just
25952s	getting the wigs played sorting out the
25954s	space and making sure the mana was there
25956s	as well so really really good win there
25958s	because as we saw fire noodle got off to
25961s	a decent start had the presta available
25963s	a little bit earlier with the coin and
25964s	you know if he was given a turn or some
25966s	more then silly things can start
25968s	happening with the dragons right but
25970s	very fat cat did not give him the
25972s	opportunity
25973s	that is right we saw fire noodle
25975s	prioritizing prestor even on a board
25977s	that had an active radio and elemental
25979s	which he technically could have
25980s	starfished but i completely agree with
25982s	this decision if he doesn't die this
25984s	turn there is a very real chance he gets
25986s	to make a huge counter push and also
25990s	play that starfish whereas if you
25991s	silence the board but still leave
25993s	minions
25994s	very fat cat can definitely still buff
25996s	up that board even without the radiant
25999s	and then you're facing the same problem
26000s	without having played prestor yet and it
26003s	does mean that fat cat is moving on to
26006s	his big spell mage now which features
26009s	zero one drops it's quite the greedy
26012s	list here with the double knolls um
26014s	double parrot as well no pelican no
26017s	finley and it is going to be going up
26019s	against the druid again from fire noodle
26022s	and
26023s	where do you put these two decks when
26024s	they go against each other geo is there
26026s	one that's a particular strong favorite
26028s	or is this a pretty even match-up
26031s	again i think presser two his favorite
26033s	against everything except okay okay i
26035s	didn't know
26036s	well because you were saying you thought
26038s	big spell mage was good i didn't know
26040s	how favored you thought it was against
26041s	big spell mage but i guess if that's the
26044s	answer that is the answer so we'll see
26046s	if uh
26047s	fat cat can pull something out of the
26049s	bag here to help or even worst case if
26052s	druid takes the win there's still plenty
26054s	more time for out to grab a win
26056s	with this mage
26058s	all right well there's a belinda so once
26060s	again we are looking at an above average
26062s	draw for the big spell mage and i might
26065s	be looking stupid once again but i value
26068s	presser druid so high because i just
26070s	kind of think of it as turbo kazakhstan
26073s	what ducks is that favorite against
26075s	pretty much everything except the ones
26077s	that can stop you from turboing
26078s	kazakhstan
26081s	top i suppose i need to value that word
26084s	a bit differently because in my head
26086s	stop is just reset mana but they can
26088s	also also stop you playing it by killing
26090s	you before you play it which might well
26093s	happen here but fire noodle does have a
26095s	pretty good curve here he has the jerry
26097s	rig and skulker combo which is pretty
26100s	nice because you can do the thing of
26102s	a player skulker then you play the
26104s	capture cold tooth and then that
26105s	guarantees that the presser goes down to
26107s	five mana
26110s	yeah not bad opening actually for fat
26112s	cat either because of the uh ram
26115s	commander with two nulls in hand it
26118s	means there's potential that you can
26119s	actually keep up with the early game of
26121s	the druid or at least start trading away
26123s	so you don't just get ran over early and
26125s	then lose to the dragons so it's
26127s	definitely something that's going to
26128s	help just a little bit fat cat did
26130s	choose to go for a ping of course
26132s	killing the peasant
26133s	in response to the early play from
26134s	noodle which makes sense you do want to
26136s	reduce that card draw down as much as
26138s	possible
26139s	now i imagine it is going to be ram
26141s	commander's time to shine
26144s	i agree might not even play a 1-1 even
26147s	though it takes a clean trade with the
26148s	jerry rigg because of those nulls in
26150s	hand but instead he values protecting
26152s	his 2-2 on the board which makes sense
26156s	you can see fire noodle probably just
26158s	with
26160s	gary rigg again and bubbler and then you
26162s	can go skulker more supplies next turn
26165s	does he end up over drawing in that case
26166s	i don't think so yeah and i think the
26169s	ram was played there because this still
26171s	means that there's a null that's
26172s	playable next turn and if he kept it
26175s	there he couldn't play two nulls anyway
26177s	next turn so may as well just get the
26179s	minion off board
26181s	and snow pretty clean to take down the
26183s	bubbler here
26185s	unless fat cat would rather ping this
26188s	and kind of pre-load the hero power on
26190s	the flurry for the prester in two turns
26193s	time
26196s	looking at noel though just because it
26197s	represents more damage every little bit
26200s	of pressure you can get down before
26201s	prester matters
26205s	it is a strange sort of interaction
26206s	isn't it where your null goes down to
26208s	two health or you could just spend two
26210s	mana and make the mini disappear
26213s	but you don't have a null as you
26214s	mentioned so damage gonna be prioritized
26217s	here from fat cat just having the five
26219s	two on board
26224s	that awkward the curve for fire noodle
26226s	that he hasn't had time to play the
26228s	more resources which is the lowest cost
26230s	card as well as the more supplies
26233s	because sometimes you do that and hit
26235s	innervate and it allows you to play
26237s	prestor a turn earlier in this case
26239s	though the curve didn't work out quite
26241s	so cleanly but he is still going to get
26244s	a pretty good prester on turn five we'll
26248s	see how fat cat contests
26251s	yeah honestly just dropping another null
26253s	uh this turn and maybe if you want to be
26255s	mana efficient just drop a ram as well
26257s	because there's just very limited things
26259s	uh the druid can actually do to actively
26261s	affect the board if they're not already
26263s	ahead so i like this a lot from fat cat
26265s	just piling on the pressure
26267s	i'd agree although from fire noodle nice
26270s	to find the spot to play the skulker not
26272s	so much for the discount but just
26273s	because it's stealth and it allows it to
26275s	trade down the knoll on the next turn
26279s	so i think fire noodle has taken the
26281s	turn to figure out the prestar setup
26283s	because it's happening next turn but the
26286s	only pseudo card draw effect he has here
26289s	is the
26290s	uh aquatic form the composting can work
26295s	but it's a pretty difficult setup i
26297s	would say
26298s	right
26303s	tricky isn't it according to preston now
26307s	work
26314s	that
26315s	surprises me
26320s	he's like no no no no no no no oh there
26323s	we go
26326s	every time
26329s	i'm trying to figure out the reason oh
26330s	sorry sorry yeah the aquatic form this
26332s	turn is to play around barbara that's my
26334s	bad makes a lot of sense
26338s	it still would have been a bit dicey
26339s	right because composting was in hand for
26341s	one anyway so
26343s	a little bit tricky but fine noodle did
26345s	what he could do does get the raid boss
26348s	in nixon of course which is definitely
26350s	going to help
26351s	huge with the composting that's just
26353s	perfect right
26355s	and now let the fireworks begin
26359s	crucially fire noodle could have traded
26362s	his press star first if he wanted
26363s	maximum whelps but i do think this line
26366s	is better where you get
26369s	still enough whelps to trade down
26370s	belinda on their own the anexia can go
26372s	into the tutu before the whelps are dead
26376s	and have the presser go into the 5-4 but
26378s	it looks like he might value
26380s	keeping onyxia alive instead presser
26384s	into belinda i don't know if i like the
26386s	trades
26389s	yeah
26390s	it's a little bit strange i think at
26392s	this point i'm even
26394s	just leaving one of the minions up or
26396s	something there because like max card
26398s	draws happened anyway or at least close
26400s	to it and it does have to look and see
26402s	what he wants to play no the dragons are
26404s	actually that powerful to find it all
26407s	got access to outside of the raid
26408s	blossoming of course
26410s	right okay that's that's right yeah yeah
26413s	that'll do that's going to be saved
26415s	until he can find a moon that guidance
26417s	most likely the amount of damage you can
26420s	get with hala on two mana is
26423s	simply insane the um root mother anexia
26427s	going to complement here and now i
26428s	learned that these whelps also activate
26431s	raid boss and next year even the one
26432s	ones work a whelp is a wealth
26436s	well played
26437s	oh too much card draw by father there
26441s	goes second room
26443s	wildfire
26446s	a pretty good reckless apprentice next
26448s	turn
26450s	leaves a live jellyfish for now though
26453s	okay frozen
26455s	has to dump something most likely
26458s	the second flame
26463s	okay gonna be snow flurry instead
26472s	this seems like a pretty good window to
26474s	land the gulf safely yeah i was just
26477s	looking at that because there's nothing
26479s	really crazy going on in fire noodles
26481s	hands right now dragon wise so why not
26484s	just play the go if you draw a card
26485s	start getting some ramp game the bit of
26488s	armor as well i like this a lot actually
26490s	could still develop on board too
26494s	yeah i think there's still one more cold
26496s	tooth mine in the deck that the
26498s	jerry rig can pull
26501s	so if at some point he wants to start
26504s	accumulating resources for hala because
26506s	the lower resource one is guaranteed to
26508s	find him a spell
26510s	with the remaining cards that is
26511s	something to consider but every turn
26514s	that he plays jerry rig and leaves that
26517s	spell in hand you do leave yourself a
26519s	little bit more vulnerable to sorceress
26521s	so i don't think it's a priority for
26523s	this turn
26526s	the problem now is
26529s	how does fat cat even realistically
26532s	fight back the second rune was burnt
26535s	there's still the amulets in the deck i
26537s	believe
26538s	but again at this point
26540s	the amulet's even strong enough
26543s	probably not
26545s	it's the fact that he only plays two
26547s	dragons per turn and fire noodle plays
26549s	what three or four yeah at least even
26552s	though the stats are bigger for fat cut
26554s	um they are not necessarily going to be
26557s	important if fire noodle can get an
26559s	earlier kill he can however open more
26561s	boxes we are looking at parrot parrot
26563s	and that's probably why he didn't play
26565s	second flame right one uh sorry
26567s	no second flame wouldn't affect it it
26569s	has to be a high cost spell to go in the
26571s	pirate pool
26576s	i do agree though that's realistically
26578s	the way he gets out of this obviously
26580s	cannot really play this starfish for the
26582s	foreseeable future either because it is
26584s	almost certainly going to buff any
26586s	boards that he's played on
26588s	right makes this alexia back into an 88
26593s	uh the reckless is kind of okay here
26597s	oh drake fire all right okay
26601s	hey
26608s	i'll use the health
26610s	which probably makes sense at this point
26612s	he's the defender
26619s	um
26620s	as to
26622s	ping and second flame here i guess on
26624s	jellyfish and jerry rig this upgraded
26626s	ping is no longer able to kill bubbler
26633s	that's right
26638s	i think there's really much you could do
26640s	with coin oh is he just going to coin
26642s	out the other mailbox dancer
26646s	just have more presents on board
26650s	not so but okay gonna hold holds it
26652s	instead okay
26655s	i thought he was maybe valuing that ping
26656s	to freeze a bigger target later on but
26658s	realizes taking four damage is kind of a
26661s	high price
26662s	price to pay this turn anyway and here
26665s	we go hala
26666s	with moonlit guidance
26671s	yeah this is pretty filthy oh vape vape
26674s	possible this turn
26678s	still has the supplies as well
26681s	yep a lot of damage
26683s	they'll find on aquatic form i think
26689s	i think it's fine to keep going that way
26691s	see where the pew pew lands and then
26694s	figure out your trades
26696s	oh he went for highest cost really i
26699s	almost never take highest cost when
26700s	you're on
26701s	post prestor
26704s	yeah i mean they they were split right
26706s	so if he was playing the fault he gets
26708s	them both anyway sorry i meant to say i
26710s	didn't think he would play both spells
26712s	oh sure
26716s	after all the spells are gone
26719s	not all
26722s	magic in the wrong hand oh it's so cool
26725s	still represents basically a mask of
26727s	c'thun
26730s	did he get all the trades in though
26737s	ooh not everything oh it's the hero
26739s	powers funky yeah not ideal not ideal
26748s	did play all the spells though so
26751s	kind of immune to barbaric sorceress
26753s	here
26758s	is it parrot time
26760s	it is but the problem is it's straight
26761s	fire amulet now right oh right it's not
26764s	real yeah and that's that's why i was a
26765s	bit surprised that the amulet was played
26767s	last turn because it means there's just
26769s	no way roon could bail it now at this
26771s	point
26773s	unless
26777s	yeah i think oh oh
26779s	okay oh my flame
26782s	yeah another coin
26785s	i think drake fire was literally the
26787s	only spell in the varden pool because
26789s	that first flame and wildfire came off
26791s	of roon
26794s	actually one of the few things that's
26796s	given me hope for that fat cat in this
26798s	matchup like
26800s	just having the access to these spells
26802s	now can go uh coin coin ping
26805s	that's pretty strong actually
26808s	yeah for now he's actually stabilized
26810s	because fire noodle is out of clears
26812s	here the dragons in hand
26815s	outside of azure drake are not really
26817s	accomplishing anything
26819s	that however is a big deal
26822s	definitely can't make the hand space
26823s	here but he's really starting to feel
26825s	the
26826s	difference of not having used the hero
26828s	power there even to ramp up right is he
26830s	needs to clear five cards
26834s	four cards and then ysera if he wants
26835s	the full value from it
26838s	hmm
26842s	it's doable
26849s	oh look paul cardra
26851s	brass swing
26854s	okay
26857s	it doesn't really deal with the problem
26859s	does it
26861s	i'm trying to figure out
26864s	how he can get awakens and double
26866s	brassing that man is just not there i
26868s	don't think
26870s	it's just worth actually
26872s	like going twilight drake
26874s	it's just emptying the hand
26877s	yeah and then just using your serif uh
26881s	train
26884s	yeah i think you can get away with that
26886s	especially when you give away one of
26888s	them and say you know what fine that's
26890s	enough
26891s	most likely
26893s	i don't know actually because all the
26895s	spells in the mage are expensive right
26897s	maybe it was meant to be the kaligos
26899s	that's dream back there
26908s	i'm going to overdraw here so
26911s	i don't know if this was the right order
26914s	to go about things for fire noodle he
26916s	had to play nightmare did he have to
26918s	play nightmare
26921s	no i think what he could have done is
26923s	like play that first user he got the two
26925s	cards play the
26927s	other you sarah and then nightmare dream
26930s	or no play the nightmare then the other
26932s	yesterday then dream
26935s	so then you would end up with nine cards
26936s	in hand instead of ten yeah because the
26938s	problem there was the first you sarah he
26940s	did play the nightmare dream
26942s	yeah which is com you know makes perfect
26944s	sense but then didn't on the second one
26947s	which is just going to leave some hand
26948s	issues as we can see here right
26952s	are you again does have this
26954s	reckless apprentice you keep wanting him
26956s	to play and it looks pretty good to me
26957s	this turn
26962s	and the parrot looks great this turn
26968s	running instead
26976s	this again feels just a little bit slow
26979s	for me i think the the parrot and
26981s	reckless was great actually basically
26984s	created this board state but bigger
26991s	rough overdraw for fire noodle the
26993s	caligo seemed like one of the ways he
26995s	could maybe get bailed out from this
26997s	situation and miracle growth would
26999s	obviously have been ideal
27001s	but he can still cycle a bit with the
27003s	hero power after dumping something most
27005s	likely the dream on the caligos
27011s	no other cards are impactful enough here
27014s	i don't think like this is too expensive
27017s	deathwing for later
27023s	there's also the potential of like
27025s	nightmare on the twilight drake
27027s	trade into the four rate
27030s	uh can you get any more damage out i'm
27032s	seeing if you can make this brass wing
27033s	work
27034s	but it looks like one yeah it's just not
27036s	nothing's quite there right it's like
27038s	just off no matter which way you slice
27040s	it
27043s	probably cash that in while you have the
27045s	cheap spells
27048s	the nightmare the twilight drake dream
27050s	the color goes in the other order
27054s	it's definitely approaching the just do
27056s	stuff kind of turn isn't it with this
27058s	rope it's like just just play things get
27060s	something done push some damage
27062s	it's a lot of things
27066s	he's getting close pushing five damage
27068s	face i assume yeah he's basically an
27071s	alexstrasza and
27073s	something else sorry yeah with the brass
27074s	wing he's an alex rasa away now from
27076s	needle but it's six cards left in deck
27079s	we don't know if any of those are alex
27080s	jazza or kazakhstan but fire noodle is
27083s	certainly hoping
27090s	hero power on two now or is it three now
27093s	for fat cat
27095s	i think it's still two
27102s	reckless apprentice just needs to come
27103s	down at last uh there is the like roll
27107s	the kala ghost and see what happens but
27110s	that's such a big gamble
27113s	it really is
27114s	he's gonna roll drake fire instead
27118s	this is still okay right to start this
27120s	and then see what happens reckless
27121s	apprentice comes down now after
27123s	reviewing the situation oh it's on three
27126s	my back oh yeah yeah yeah i forgot about
27127s	it
27128s	oh it goes up to four when it kills the
27129s	two four now
27131s	oh wait no it's already gone it's a five
27133s	yeah
27136s	okay
27138s	this drake dies now
27142s	instant deathwing and then hero power
27144s	for draw none of these cards fire
27145s	noodles yeah to discard yeah completely
27148s	agree
27153s	not to be the deathwing
27156s	it's the fairy dragon
27158s	airy dragon over hero power i mean it's
27161s	got its merits as an untargetable
27164s	but i would much rather see what's left
27166s	in the deck i think yeah i agree
27169s	uh
27170s	not terrible like at this point he can
27172s	manually discover alexstrasza and play
27174s	it in the same turn right
27179s	and now
27182s	five damage hero power another drake
27185s	fire in the gray sage parrot
27190s	really tough because if this doesn't
27192s	work out you're in trouble right uh
27195s	i think
27197s	porn feels reliable
27200s	at this point against the druid right
27202s	sorceress and okani maybe okay yeah
27206s	or maybe even just uh sorceress
27208s	and then ram and hero power
27211s	true get weave the things
27213s	yeah yeah because this is a lot of
27214s	damage right it's gonna add up i'm just
27216s	wondering like yes there are dragons
27219s	that will beat the taunt but there's not
27221s	tons of them right so maybe at this
27223s	point with four cards left and three in
27225s	hand
27226s	and one of which i think fat cat knows
27228s	isn't a dragon necessarily um
27232s	you just kind of hope that the deathwing
27233s	has to tank through this
27235s	yeah fair enough weaving in the ping
27237s	there maybe lets him get some outs with
27241s	uh
27242s	i don't know if he top decks the other
27244s	reckless next turn he'd still be a
27246s	little bit short but if a minion sticks
27247s	it can get there oh he pings deathwing
27249s	all right
27250s	i guess that's super kill next turn with
27252s	this but there is the discover here from
27254s	fire noodle
27256s	yes there is a
27260s	so dream outs there raid boss and nyxia
27262s	alex draza yasera all get the job done
27264s	and fire noodle barely crosses the line
27267s	with press or druid not the cleanest
27269s	gameplay i'm gonna have to say
27272s	um some actions missed and some cards
27274s	burned that didn't have to be but the
27276s	important thing is he has gotten a win
27278s	on the board now and is potentially
27282s	climbing back towards a reverse sweep
27284s	yeah the only problem that i can see
27287s	fire noodle go uh going with here is
27290s	that well that was pretty much his best
27292s	overall deck i think with the presta
27294s	druid uh he has got a win with it but i
27297s	think things are only going to get
27298s	harder now uh because it is of course
27300s	going to be mage again for very fat cat
27302s	and it's going to be against either the
27304s	hunter or the demon hunter uh two decks
27307s	that
27308s	can potentially struggle especially if
27311s	there's going to be an early belinda out
27312s	once again for backer
27314s	definitely so um the hunter i would say
27317s	even in a worse spot than d1 hunter
27319s	because it doesn't get that much of an
27322s	early advantage as consistently and the
27324s	burst damage once the late stages of the
27327s	game are entered is certainly not up to
27330s	par
27331s	uh we see fire noodle
27334s	on the sorry this is a hunter yes big
27337s	spell it's not a big spell mage it is
27340s	the it might be my fault
27342s	i might take responsibility for that i
27344s	don't wait
27345s	no that wasn't me okay i'm safe never
27348s	mind regardless yes this is a hunter
27350s	it's definitely the hunter ignore the
27352s	ignore the name of the deck and let's
27354s	just look at the cards is that a bit of
27355s	a different build not different we've
27357s	seen this build a few times but there is
27360s	a few different uh these b center builds
27362s	knocking around this one with the k9 no
27365s	tron again just has that little bit more
27367s	early game uh pressure in it which can
27370s	definitely be useful in a lot of
27372s	matchups but also it feels a little bit
27374s	weaker in some so you're just kind of uh
27376s	cueing what you feel like for this
27378s	tournament but regardless the plan is
27380s	still kind of the same right uh asher
27382s	and saber pet collector summoned some
27384s	beasts and uh and just uh tank a lot of
27387s	damage basically with the mounting bears
27390s	which is generally a solid game plan
27392s	against board-based decks the mountain
27394s	bear is the turning point that you often
27397s	need to view as your finish line and
27398s	once you get that you've stabilized
27400s	against big spell mage not necessarily
27403s	so they have
27404s	many spells they can generate to scam
27407s	that they have the starfish in there
27409s	which fat cat is even going to keep
27412s	not necessarily just for the mountain
27414s	bear but even a saber being silence can
27416s	be a big deal but for fire noodle the
27418s	big headliner here is he's hit the early
27420s	curve and doggie biscuit which is
27422s	amazing um the lower end of the
27426s	hunter deck is what varies in the beast
27428s	hunter list in my opinion like some
27430s	people run the secret pass package but
27433s	having slither spear k-9 a tron and
27434s	doggy biscuit i feel if you hit that it
27437s	makes your match-up percentages in so
27440s	many different matchups so much better
27442s	but we actually tosses the doggie
27444s	biscuit here and gets something even
27446s	better in naga sprite
27450s	yeah this opening's looking pretty
27451s	strong actually nice and aggressive
27454s	still with the tracking a little bit
27455s	later on to be able to start finding the
27458s	sort of middle
27459s	mid game beef that you do need with this
27461s	hunter but also decent opening here for
27464s	very fat cat i think whenever you're
27466s	against a deck like this and you just
27467s	have the uh the armor armageddon already
27470s	offered to you you're feeling pretty
27472s	good about life
27473s	yeah
27474s	nine to ten extra health that's a way to
27477s	play 40 health
27479s	rather than run at all
27481s	the coin nagas pride is obviously the
27483s	best pressure available to fire noodle
27485s	but it does make his curve on a couple
27489s	following turns not the cleanest like he
27491s	could still go if he coins naga's pride
27494s	this turned k9 tracking on turn three
27496s	into akani which is not bad so looking
27498s	at it again i do like the naga spread
27501s	yeah me too i think something that i've
27504s	seen happen a few times on stream this
27506s	weekend was if a player has the coin and
27509s	has a mountain bear in hand they've
27511s	almost always saved it even though they
27514s	could have coined other things out and
27516s	put more pressure earlier and even
27518s	though the deck does revolve around you
27520s	know the mountain bear king crush and
27522s	hydra in the late game i think just
27525s	piling on pressure early especially
27526s	against the slower decks is worth a lot
27529s	more than it seems players are thinking
27531s	it's worth because it's all good and
27534s	well but if you just coin out a mountain
27536s	bear on what's potentially an empty your
27538s	side of the board it's strong but it's
27540s	not that strong right i think just
27543s	creating problems for your opponent
27545s	earlier actually makes a slightly more
27547s	delayed mountain bear stronger
27549s	i'd agree i also really like the coin
27551s	august pride because it would have
27552s	buffed the vicious slither spear to 3-2
27554s	which meant the snow flurry on that turn
27556s	could not have taken a value trade there
27558s	oh sure yeah yeah i didn't think so
27559s	actually
27560s	yeah extra bonuses going on there
27563s	but the upshot of keeping coin is
27564s	because fire noodle has found a pet
27567s	collector dredged up from k9atron it can
27570s	be played this turn gets the saber trade
27572s	that in put the sunken at the bottom and
27575s	as soon as he finds harpoon gun
27577s	or another pet collector he is really in
27580s	business yeah
27582s	yeah this works out pretty well with the
27584s	coin hold just purely because of that
27586s	pet collector you could already see that
27588s	if that was almost anything else the
27590s	coin starts to feel pretty bad versus
27592s	what could have happened
27594s	biscuit okay maybe start with the track
27598s	in this turn
27602s	wondering if this could be a window to
27604s	play okani because it's going into turn
27606s	six where belinda and barbaric are like
27608s	huge minions you'd love to block so
27611s	starting with tracking doesn't interfere
27614s	with that if you are very greedy you
27616s	could okani and then trade the biscuit
27618s	and the okani can still rush and value
27619s	trade and it still blocks belinda next
27622s	turn
27623s	even at one health true yeah because at
27626s	first you're like oh it'll just get
27627s	pinged right
27628s	that blocks belinda
27630s	job done
27632s	yeah i think starting with the tracking
27633s	just because
27634s	harpoon gun if offered
27637s	might well just change what you do this
27639s	term pretty dramatically but again it
27642s	you are completely right it depends how
27644s	much fire noodle
27645s	it's going to value blocking belinda
27647s	here and it looks like he's going to
27649s	value it a lot which no arguments from
27651s	me if i'm honest
27653s	yeah i like this a lot
27654s	um
27655s	wondering whether he should even trade
27657s	the knowledge i think you have to if
27658s	you're committing to this line with the
27660s	okani now it takes a ping and something
27664s	else to deal with and although some
27666s	things are minions which will be blocked
27674s	really tricky actually you can just see
27676s	when you if you imagine yourself as fat
27678s	cat now not egg fat cat but the player
27681s	fat cat and that
27684s	where'd you even start every initial
27685s	play you look at you're like oh yeah
27686s	okay we'll stop that oh yeah can't even
27688s	stop that and then you really appreciate
27691s	the actual power level of this turn from
27693s	fire noodle yeah okani is just such a
27695s	powerful card in the meta and i can
27698s	definitely get behind running four
27699s	copies of it in a lineup because
27702s	this is a meta where there are tons of
27705s	decks that have very predictable power
27707s	spike turns mages turn six for druid at
27710s	six mana that might be turn four turn
27712s	five order yeah
27714s	important additional note there
27716s	a six mana for druid may well not be tin
27718s	six
27721s	just making sure you
27722s	counter the most expected spike means
27726s	that you buy yourself a whole extra turn
27728s	of time a whole extra turn to push
27731s	damage and as hunter every single one of
27733s	those turns matters and that's an old
27735s	thrown into the void not a great feeling
27738s	for fat cat especially since he doesn't
27740s	even have a follow-up to this play
27743s	yeah pretty rough
27744s	in general
27745s	and it'll start with the tracking
27748s	it does have the option of
27751s	grabbing a naga's pride and being able
27753s	to play school teacher this turn uh with
27755s	the nargling
27757s	looks decent to me
27759s	it was k9 instead yeah he wants to
27762s	dredge the uh the saber right
27766s	oh true yeah that is at the bottom
27770s	i was like wait the tracking didn't have
27772s	a saver oh right that's not a dredge
27774s	card that's been in the game for
27776s	years and years and years
27782s	all right you want to forgo the school
27784s	teacher which i can only assume means he
27787s	wants the doggy biscuit as well push
27789s	more face damage i like the game plan
27792s	okay yeah there was options right
27794s	because he could have just traded the
27795s	biscuit away instead
27797s	and then and had the instant pull
27800s	uh just yeah get that in hand and then
27801s	just rush that in but yeah looks gonna
27803s	be
27805s	oh i was going to say this looks like a
27806s	spammy turn but already it's like
27809s	not quite
27811s	not quite
27815s	oh it doesn't work even if you like
27818s	dancer and ping your own dancer then
27820s	there's no two health break point
27824s	this doesn't work
27826s	yeah it's even yeah
27828s	every single turn has just been made so
27830s	awkward here for fat cat i think uh fine
27833s	noodles making
27835s	making him work if uh fat cat's gonna
27837s	get this win
27840s	let's gain a coin now and let's be
27842s	honest the whole game will revolve
27843s	around coining out roon at the archmage
27846s	completely agree
27847s	the nice the coin from fire noodle with
27849s	this silence but let's be real the 2-4
27852s	is just there to try and fight for board
27854s	somehow someway but we're gonna see
27857s	saber into
27859s	um one and three king crush
27869s	yeah i'm
27870s	just looking at whether this is ever
27871s	actually you just
27872s	drop the mountain bear while the board's
27874s	kind of in your favor anyway and just
27876s	try and stack it that way of course
27878s	there's a there's a chance it's either
27880s	king crush or mountain bear or hydra
27883s	it's just in this case hydra actually
27885s	feels like a bit of a whiff and
27886s	something i found myself saying quite
27888s	often with this deck it's like i hope i
27891s	don't get hydra even though on paper
27893s	it's so many stats but it's just the
27895s	fact you don't get rush on those three
27897s	ones make it makes it so much worse
27899s	initially yeah i agree kind of terrible
27902s	there
27902s	our noodle has been pretty diligent
27904s	about trading but i i'm not really sure
27907s	if i agree with that in his position
27909s	where he is the hunter with the hero
27911s	power that can
27913s	ignore most of the secrets that mage can
27916s	generate and uh he has been on a clock
27919s	of trying to kill before rune can
27921s	finally be played but we'll see just how
27923s	much this that's a great way to start
27925s	for fat cats that's an insane way still
27929s	eight mata to be spent on the spells
27932s	now he's an ice barrier and he's uh
27933s	feeling good about life
27937s	another are you kidding me oh my god
27943s	what
27944s	in the
27945s	world back in my chair that was so
27947s	broken
27950s	oh
27951s	and you are right and something i was
27953s	just going to add on to your point
27954s	before we saw the uh chaos that is
27956s	ruined of the archmage is
27958s	finder duel is also running out of
27960s	resources right yes school teacher into
27962s	nagalink is great yes sabre draw a big
27965s	beast great
27967s	but that was it there was still 19
27969s	health to go so unless you're exactly
27971s	getting king crush
27973s	uh it's still not like guaranteed that
27975s	you could make up this damage and see a
27978s	point proven hydra comes out shake of
27980s	the head from fine noodle oh not you
27982s	again
27983s	it's a whiff
27994s	it's really needed but still
27997s	it's definitely the safest line for a
27998s	fat cat though yeah oh
28007s	trading first so it's not going to be
28008s	another rune turn
28010s	oh my god three runes in hand are you
28012s	joking what is this
28015s	golden ruin anyone
28017s	yeah
28019s	just finally the board away makes sense
28022s	and now finally they'll need some magic
28025s	off the top all this gnarling to
28028s	be what revived exactly i think is what
28032s	would
28033s	realistic but look at all these as well
28035s	like the revive pets so bad now yeah
28038s	i'm thinking aimed shot raven what about
28040s	king crush off the top ship at face next
28042s	turn you get the knuckling aim shot
28044s	that's the setup
28046s	i can completely get on board with this
28048s	plan
28050s	the mountain bear of course if fat cat
28052s	wants to push damage there's still the
28054s	uh the starfish in hand
28057s	which means can just completely ignore
28058s	this bear but again no big surprise ruin
28060s	of the arc mage comes out here hoping to
28063s	repeat the success of the previous one
28068s	not asking too much it's just a single
28070s	bear that spawns two more snowman you're
28072s	not going to be mad about
28075s	overdrive
28078s	uh it's fine it's fine these aren't
28080s	necessary at this point just clear the
28082s	way
28083s	are you honestly looking at the overdraw
28085s	on the amulet because there's still um
28089s	card always forget the name of hang on
28092s	the deep water there's still deep water
28093s	evoker in the deck
28095s	yeah so that was the only the only oof
28096s	with the the amulet but there's an ice
28098s	barrier now which is huge because it
28100s	just negates
28102s	yeah and fire noodle i think has to hope
28105s	that that secret is not exactly ice
28107s	barrier his only real avenue back to
28110s	victory here is face damage he never
28111s	wins the board back so it's gonna be
28113s	harpoon gun to the face we'll get the
28115s	bad news it's barrier
28117s	and then
28118s	i don't know what happens next
28120s	well let's see oh okay
28122s	let's see what comes off the nargling
28123s	because there is the tiniest of worlds
28126s	where you think you might be able to
28127s	survive to just hero power nargling um
28130s	and just hero power your opponent down
28133s	it's very unlikely and we do see the
28136s	swing with the harpoon gun there oh
28139s	okay all right and he's going to
28140s	instantly draw it with the nuggling this
28142s	turn
28145s	if he wants to pick me
28148s	why not wait is that how that works
28150s	it should work your hand is empty yep
28153s	okay okay
28155s	it sometimes trips me up like outcast
28158s	doesn't work with doggling but this
28159s	condition work yeah because it's not a
28161s	keyword it's just on the card text so it
28163s	does work
28167s	i interest you in another rune of the
28170s	archmage
28171s	yes you can
28175s	like ruin of the archmage sounds like a
28178s	rare spell or a rare ability
28181s	not in this game hand them out like
28184s	like party treats
28187s	finger boots yeah just the appetizers
28191s	oh man another barrier are you joking
28194s	that double volcano just didn't even
28196s	grow
28205s	just dancing on the mailbox
28213s	geez fat cat has gained 16 extra health
28217s	from ruins this game
28219s	and there's two more runes where that
28220s	came from fire noodle can't believe it
28222s	and as a hunter main i feel your pain
28225s	fire noodle because
28227s	every time when you think you're getting
28229s	close and then your opponent's just oh
28231s	gain more armor oh gain more health you
28233s	just think well this which is what is
28234s	not meant to be
28236s	eye noodle would very much like to go
28238s	a-o in this swiss don't get me wrong by
28240s	noodle is very likely to be looking to
28242s	make it to top 16 anyway but still
28246s	frustration is mounting
28249s	if he goes crush and hero power face he
28253s	still somehow puts fat cat down to eight
28256s	health which unfortunately is not within
28258s	range of naugaling into aim shot hero
28261s	power it's still one damage off so i
28264s	don't know the line for fire noodle here
28265s	but he's starting with school teacher
28267s	maybe there's some spell he has in mind
28269s	revive pet hit exactly king crush
28273s	go again okay
28275s	anybody explosive
28277s	okay gonna go tracking
28280s	oh missed it uh
28283s	but if the line is just a fine revive
28285s	pet that break point doesn't necessarily
28287s	matter so i actually really like the
28288s	line from fire noodle yeah
28291s	well here we go again
28293s	yup rune number three fine noodles
28308s	oh that means that the crush doesn't
28309s	okay now it dies okay so it's in the
28311s	revive pet pool there's still an out for
28314s	fire noodle
28315s	just
28318s	shockingly now it's incredibly low odds
28320s	to both find the revive pet and hit
28323s	exactly can crush after what so many
28326s	hydra heads and
28328s	naga's pride tokens have died but it's
28330s	an out
28332s	the moment
28341s	has to be i mean to maybe even win right
28344s	tavis improved explosive trap
28347s	and then huffing your way home
28350s	i'm down
28352s	i i don't see a better plan right uh i
28355s	guess fine noodle could start with
28357s	doggie biscuit cycle
28360s	if he really wanted to to see what
28362s	happens
28365s	right haggling is a big threat now with
28368s	rush
28370s	so is it huffer your way home or use the
28372s	original hero power and then tavis i
28374s	kind of think that the original hero
28376s	power has
28378s	more value here
28380s	i
28380s	yeah because i'm still stuck on the
28382s	revive pet plan i don't know i i think
28384s	that's fine because you still need two
28386s	huffers right if we're going with the
28389s	b stalker plan
28392s	if you factor in the improved explosive
28394s	damage
28395s	um
28396s	you need two huffers but not the hero
28399s	power the original hero power right all
28400s	right
28401s	so there are different break points
28404s	fire noodle
28406s	values the animal companion another shot
28409s	at huffer more so
28411s	starts with maneuvers over explosive
28414s	okay
28416s	ice trap moved ice i guess
28419s	we have to trace
28421s	is kind of rough yeah just to trade the
28423s	noggling then yeah yes
28426s	thankfully for him not oasis ally
28431s	oh yeah that's a counter spell revive
28433s	pet isn't a valid game plan at the
28435s	moment
28437s	uh
28438s	okay
28441s	ours is gonna say a few words
28444s	it's three words
28447s	and you have to finish them
28448s	ruin of the
28454s	fire
28455s	oh okay well no that was a fail
28458s	i i imagined or want to see the fourth
28461s	one
28462s	just to say
28463s	we were there
28465s	full rune of the arc mage in one game of
28468s	hearthstone
28470s	the drake fire doesn't preclude the
28472s	fourth
28473s	rune just it's just not this turn
28481s	there's still one jig fire left still
28482s	one in okay yeah i was worried for just
28485s	a second
28486s	somehow generated tons of these
28489s	oh rune playable but he doesn't go for
28492s	it raven
28493s	this wasn't part of the plan
28497s	maybe this was part of the plan because
28499s	he's thinking about the secret right
28504s	oh this coin it procs counter spell
28509s	at the cost
28511s	that is the sickest counter spell out it
28513s	just should be called counter turn
28515s	yeah nine mana pass
28518s	but realistically i mean
28523s	it has
28525s	it doesn't have to be done but it
28528s	yeah oh i don't know yeah because the
28530s	problem is now
28532s	okay hero how you get huffer
28535s	well huffer just goes in to the taunt
28537s	and then
28539s	still in kind of the same spot next turn
28544s	now it looks like
28546s	fat cat can actually next turn go build
28549s	a snowman to check for the ice trap
28552s	and then just play rune of the arc mage
28554s	for free
28555s	pretty huge
28559s	yeah i'm not seeing a way out of this
28560s	for fire noodle
28562s	even if he were to get an active revived
28565s	pet next turn let's say he top decks a
28567s	cheap spell which will proc the counter
28569s	spell the taunt in the way is just too
28571s	much of a detriment can crush not even
28575s	able to get through that extra 10 armor
28579s	oh this is bigger though actually right
28581s	the coin will be eight it will get
28583s	counted
28584s	okay then revive is
28587s	oh oh revival go up to three right
28591s	yeah
28592s	it was two and for some reason i was
28593s	thinking it was just stuck at two two
28595s	reduction but it's not it's both scribes
28598s	i think
28600s	wait no that means the coin would be
28602s	seven in that case
28605s	now i'm just lost
28607s	oh yeah
28608s	how is that revived pet two what what
28611s	have i missed i don't know i'm so sorry
28613s	i can't remember
28615s	what happened
28620s	well we'll find out i'll watch the vod
28622s	later i can think of how that happened
28630s	the problem now is fire noodles just
28632s	getting low himself 10 health gets a big
28635s	health lead for the majority of the game
28637s	i can't take him
28639s	oh wait it's just lethal never mind yeah
28641s	reckless apprentice yeah of course
28643s	i kind of forgot that damage stacked up
28646s	on the hero palette it feels like an age
28648s	ago and it feels a an odd moment to not
28651s	see a rune of the archmage played but it
28653s	could big congratulations there to very
28655s	fat cat ends the swiss eight and oh and
28658s	what a final game to end on jia because
28661s	i i thought we were gonna go to a game
28664s	five there i thought that fine noodle
28666s	did a generally good job although again
28669s	i think i would have tried to play a bit
28670s	more aggressively uh but overall you
28673s	can't really deal with three rune of the
28675s	arc mages they're constantly flame
28676s	striking the board and playing ice
28678s	barriers it's the exact opposite of what
28681s	you would want from the hunter in that
28682s	spot so unlucky there for fire noodle
28685s	although i'm sure we'll still be happy
28686s	at a 7-1 finish in swiss for the first
28689s	masters tour of this stage
28691s	absolutely he waved goodbye but it's not
28693s	goodbye for long because i believe that
28695s	is a guaranteed top 16 for him to be
28698s	played out tomorrow one more match for
28701s	each of these players to determine
28702s	whether they enter that crucial top
28704s	eight and make sure that they can get as
28708s	many wins as possible towards the
28709s	seasonal championship and of course any
28712s	single match win is getting you closer
28714s	to winning the masters tour as a whole
28716s	14 000 on the line for first place and
28719s	an instant invitation to fall
28722s	championships
28723s	yeah still so much up for grabs for
28726s	these players but either way
28728s	a great start for specifically these two
28731s	fire noodle and very fat cat just
28733s	getting so many wins so far is they're
28735s	gonna do them a lot of favors going
28737s	forward and so that is gonna be it for
28740s	the round but not for the coverage as we
28742s	are gonna be able to check out i think
28744s	another game or two uh before we wrap up
28747s	the day but for now we are gonna be done
28748s	we're gonna go to a quick break while we
28750s	find that extra game uh to talk about
28752s	afterwards so stay tuned we'll be right
28754s	back
28763s	[Music]
28768s	[Applause]
28768s	[Music]
28771s	welcome to raven dress in the darkest of
28774s	seasons where ruthless eyes gawk for
28778s	horrific reasons
28780s	for a hidden hand has struck me down
28784s	with such ruthlessness
28787s	so
28788s	deep and profound
28791s	then he comes with his mullockian scowl
28799s	to uncover the truth
28801s	of murder most foul
28804s	the anima drifts across the floor
28807s	highlighting the creatures who walked
28810s	through my door
28812s	the motives are as black as night
28815s	avarice power revenge and blight
28821s	we watch the hero
28824s	uncover the clues
28826s	that lead to the truth
28829s	behind this dark bruise
28833s	join us here with the grimm and in pious
28838s	choose your power without heavenly bias
28842s	for at the end
28843s	they will burn in the fire
28847s	when it is known who slayed
28850s	tenathrius the sire
28853s	[Music]
28867s	[Music]
28875s	[Music]
28881s	[Music]
28887s	so
28890s	[Music]
28916s	do
28918s	[Music]
28950s	welcome back everyone subtle has joined
28952s	me to end out the day here's we have a
28954s	little bit more coverage for you i
28956s	believe we're going into game
28960s	oh i think or of drava so yeah i had the
28963s	wrong channel up uh to check my notes so
28965s	yeah it could be game four between dravo
28968s	and uh i nearly said gabumon cause i was
28970s	just making up a name but uh get gabon
28974s	i think
28976s	gaboumei it's french i'm i'm not sure as
28978s	to how you're supposed to pronounce it
28980s	in french but i would assume gabou may
28982s	i'm very unclear my friend i'll go with
28983s	you i'm willing to uh throw you under
28985s	the bus for this instead of me so
28988s	uh yeah i'll just mimic whatever
28990s	naming choice you have chosen but hook
28993s	us up how do you say this you can find
28995s	out just to give you some background on
28998s	what's happened so far uh i believe uh
29002s	gabriel may won with rogue versus
29004s	warlock game one
29006s	and then drevo won a there the priest
29008s	versus priest then dravel won rogue
29011s	versus priest and now i believe we're
29013s	going into draevo on warlock which he
29015s	lost game one with going up against the
29017s	priest once again for mayor gaboume so
29020s	just a bit of a background on ordering
29022s	and what beat what for now we do see the
29024s	double druid ban air coming out from
29026s	both players here with very very similar
29028s	overall lineups at least class based
29031s	yeah um and i was just about to ask you
29033s	i wouldn't have held it against you of
29034s	course as to whether you'd actually had
29035s	a chance to look at these lines perhaps
29037s	yet because uh yeah there's some uh
29040s	there's some real business going on here
29043s	um we have not only
29045s	a
29046s	potential
29047s	mine warlock mirror but both players are
29051s	playing mine rogue in the lineup as well
29054s	which is
29055s	absolutely incredible scenes we get all
29057s	the way down to the end i've been saying
29059s	all day
29060s	that mine rogue was performing
29062s	incredibly well in the tournament we
29064s	hadn't really been seeing it but this is
29066s	kind of where you see those decks appear
29068s	the low representation high win rate
29071s	decks this is where you see them when
29072s	you get towards the end of the day and
29074s	you're seeing those seven zero eight
29076s	zero players the seven one players
29078s	that's where you start to see the weird
29080s	spicy text um worth noting of course i
29082s	think it was with you specifically where
29085s	i said boar priest was wildly
29087s	underperforming it might have been with
29088s	gia but it's that kind of situation
29090s	where cream rises to the top and look
29093s	here we are there's two players with
29095s	very good records who both have boar
29097s	priests in their lineup going into this
29099s	one so
29100s	really really interesting very different
29102s	lineups from what we've been seeing with
29105s	the druid shaman
29107s	mage those kind of decks that we've been
29109s	seeing a lot on stream today very very
29112s	different angle of attack this time
29114s	around
29115s	yeah and i'll be honest a matchup i'm
29117s	not too familiar with it's right the old
29120s	mine warlock versus priest and all
29122s	that's coming to my brain i don't know
29123s	if this is a slight effect of
29125s	deprivation or not but whenever i see a
29128s	mind deck i always just think of gimli
29130s	saying and they call it a mine
29133s	oh
29134s	i go to the like the scavenger seagulls
29136s	from finding nemo
29138s	mine mine mine
29141s	which one of us is cooler
29144s	with the reference i mean
29147s	it's a tough one actually i'm undecided
29149s	i'm just gonna say i am because it's
29151s	mine
29152s	i've thought about it really hard and
29153s	i've decided that i am indeed cooler
29155s	than you are
29157s	sure that's how it works yep
29159s	getting into already uh nothing too
29162s	crazy coming out from
29164s	a player right now but then again i do
29166s	have to readjust my mindset uh to
29171s	think about the ball priest openings i
29173s	feel like i've only really cast the wig
29176s	priest for the majority of this
29177s	tournament i'm like well there's no wig
29178s	in hand there the opening hand sucks
29180s	a bad hand
29182s	say two naga what's going on this is
29184s	ridiculous yeah there's enough card draw
29187s	at least and enough sort of cycle going
29188s	through for gambo may here to at least
29190s	get going
29194s	i have to imagine
29196s	that this is just simply a race scenario
29200s	isn't it between dravo trying to get the
29202s	big death rattle combo to pop off versus
29205s	gaboumei obviously going for the ball
29207s	combo to get that weapon equipped
29209s	i think so yeah and i would argue that
29212s	it's
29213s	probably the priest that gets there more
29215s	often than not my mind warlock
29217s	experience is very limited i had a brief
29220s	flirtation with learning the deck um was
29223s	it was it last masters tour i think that
29225s	was like a round one games like a round
29228s	one wrap-up game in the last masters
29230s	tour and it was like mistress of
29232s	mixtures mind like this pretty much this
29235s	exact build and it just looked
29236s	unbeatable in that series and i was like
29238s	oh is this deck actually real i tried it
29241s	out and like obviously there's some use
29243s	error thrown in there with a very
29244s	difficult deck learning early on but
29246s	yeah it just didn't quite live up to the
29247s	hype and haven't really gone too far
29249s	near it since then but i would imagine
29252s	just from my limited experience with the
29254s	deck that it does kind of go off eternal
29256s	to too slow on average especially when
29260s	not pressuring the priest right like
29262s	they're a hundred percent free to just
29265s	cycle amulets draw cards do whatever
29267s	cleric turn they need to do just fully
29270s	give it the business in terms of card
29271s	draw so i would imagine that their their
29273s	game plan works pretty smoothly overall
29276s	in this one that's it and i think that's
29278s	uh well advertised here by the hands
29281s	right if you look at uh gaboume's hand
29283s	and pretty much any priesthood of the
29286s	ball variety the whole deck is
29289s	completely focused around cycling
29291s	through and getting to the combo whereas
29293s	for warlock half the deck is focused on
29296s	just not dying right that's what you can
29299s	see from you know the the two spice
29301s	bread makers the aoe customer uh there
29303s	as well all of these cards don't really
29307s	achieve anything against priest and all
29310s	they do is get in the way yeah whereas
29312s	dravel will be relying very heavily on
29314s	just lifetime to cycle through his deck
29316s	whereas gaboo mate has all the tools in
29318s	the world not only to sustain but also
29320s	cycle as we can see now
29322s	i'm sure many a retail worker over the
29324s	years has wished they could aoe their
29326s	customers at some point but no he
29329s	included subtle me you weren't retail i
29331s	didn't know well wholesale but same job
29334s	basically well i mean much less general
29337s	public interaction oh no no no no
29340s	anyone could get in oh okay yeah fair
29343s	enough
29345s	if anything it was worse because it's
29346s	like oh i own a restaurant i think i'm
29349s	cool
29350s	so yeah
29351s	i'm not just going to buy a loaf of
29353s	bread you're not really you know it's
29354s	all right in it but when people are like
29358s	i'm uh i'm a boss you need to treat me
29360s	better painful days
29364s	you just want to eat them super hard
29367s	most part was i worked in there
29369s	part of the year was the garden center
29371s	so there's a lot of sharp objects
29372s	knocking around as well so imagine the
29374s	temptation
29376s	i'm only joking by the way
29379s	before this gets too serious i do enjoy
29381s	listening to 7 a.m raven because the
29383s	accent does go back in time
29385s	i have
29386s	lost it i'll be honest
29399s	i had uh honey and maple glazed ham hock
29401s	and dough for noir potatoes raven thanks
29403s	for asking i hope everyone in chat is
29405s	viciously judging you now
29409s	you see here though gaboumei already as
29412s	we're being very stupid uh down to eight
29415s	cards in the deck and just kind of
29418s	proving the point we're on about right
29419s	look how clunky dreyvon's hand is like
29421s	how awkward it is no let's be honest
29423s	nowhere even really near getting to what
29426s	he needs to do right now
29428s	to combo his opponent and gabby may's
29430s	just almost there
29434s	pretty much yeah um i have been keeping
29437s	track the there has been a fair amount
29438s	of trading on the amulets as well so
29440s	there's really not a great deal that
29442s	needs to be done here i was just as you
29445s	were saying that scanning the deck list
29447s	like is there any alarm bell for
29449s	throwing out balls on the board can you
29451s	just do it freely um it seems like you
29453s	can i'm not really seeing any great
29455s	problem no real creative buy options
29457s	that can mess with this too much so uh
29459s	just freely spending the mana while it's
29462s	available just making sure he's uh he's
29465s	tempoing out as hard as he can
29467s	as these amulets remaining there is the
29469s	second ball now as
29471s	well things looking pretty smooth from
29474s	here four cards remaining both amulets
29476s	in
29480s	yeah this is dead now this turn if you
29484s	wanted to just using the shadow devours
29487s	i definitely think you cut out for me
29488s	then subtle which is why i probably so
29490s	you sounded like i interrupted you so
29492s	i'm sorry um but yeah this definitely
29495s	feels like it's almost a just training
29497s	ground for this ball pretty right like
29500s	his just go into this you'll face a
29501s	warlock so just don't worry about it and
29503s	just practice getting to your combo
29505s	quick
29507s	bravo's just done nothing this game and
29510s	not that he really could but
29513s	i'm to be a tough one
29515s	i like this diversion it was going to be
29518s	healed with the hero power i like this
29519s	whole line by the way of uh cellular
29521s	devour holy smite to injure the cleric
29523s	and then heal to draw a card but i also
29525s	liked the additional diversion of going
29527s	with the gift
29529s	instead of just using the hero power
29530s	because it allows him to then do this
29533s	right the other shadow word devouring
29534s	kill the other boar as well so really
29536s	really like this turn oh no of course
29538s	we've been you know not taking this game
29540s	particularly seriously because it has
29542s	seemed like a formality up until this
29543s	point but
29545s	the player themselves are clearly taking
29548s	the game very seriously and still making
29550s	very good decisions and making sure that
29552s	there is no late game catastrophe as we
29554s	get down to these final few cards
29557s	and that's why gabriel made six one
29559s	right we talked earlier about paul
29560s	priest not generally been performing too
29562s	well well it's been doing all right for
29564s	gabby may pro by the looks of things and
29566s	clean gameplay is where it's at we've
29568s	seen good hearthstone players mess up
29571s	ball priest games uh just by not holding
29574s	focus and not keeping the turns clean
29576s	and you know negating any shenanigans
29579s	that can happen to make you lose the
29581s	game so it really is good to see
29583s	from gabamay especially
29585s	because a lot of cards was that not just
29589s	lethal it still is with the heel anyway
29590s	yeah yeah sure same deal same deal i was
29592s	going to do it by playing the maiden
29594s	yeah i was doing it by playing the
29596s	handmaiden so then when the handmaiden
29597s	wasn't played i was like that's weird
29599s	why aren't you doing it but this is just
29600s	the same thing and cost one less mana
29602s	obviously when i say lethal the
29604s	definition of lethal with the ball
29606s	priest is a little bit weird but yeah
29608s	that's that's lethal that's how it works
29610s	to put it simply you really can't
29611s	counter combo someone with no mana i'm
29614s	so a little bit awkward uh so yeah it's
29617s	going to be a bit of a problem and at
29619s	this point i would be shocked if uh
29621s	driver didn't just concede
29624s	oh unlucky so close with that viper
29626s	nearly got there ah if only you had more
29629s	mana it would have been a lot better
29630s	there but yeah it looks like it's gonna
29632s	be evened up there with a win and
29634s	honestly
29635s	just
29636s	a terrible matchup and i think a lot of
29638s	that was
29639s	well i need to win with warlock so i
29641s	have to cue it gabou may needed to win
29643s	with the priest so he has to cue it
29645s	let's just get that over with and now we
29647s	move on to a much more reasonable
29649s	matchup for draver which is warlock
29652s	whoa ho ho sorry raven you of all people
29656s	based on the game that you just watched
29658s	should not be calling any mage match up
29660s	reasonable at this point that's just not
29662s	how the deck works at all it was funny
29664s	though wasn't it it wasn't ruined they
29666s	are made ruin
29671s	it was the fact that everyone was like
29672s	flame strike ice barrier against center
29675s	it's like wow i i feel the hunter pain
29678s	at that point
29680s	yeah uh unusual list though with a
29682s	couple of cards that i picked out here
29683s	with us doing this double doomsayer a
29685s	natural blizzard thrown in the deck as
29687s	well which is
29689s	very unusual we've seen these
29691s	uh this is more early days big spell
29694s	mage i would say before habu gabu got
29696s	his hands on it and sort of popularized
29698s	the list that we're seeing at the moment
29700s	i think there was sort of a little bit
29702s	more mid-range spell thrown in there um
29705s	in the earlier lists uh one-off blizzard
29707s	i do certainly see the merits of it you
29709s	know sometimes
29711s	you do just need a panic button that you
29713s	can play straight away if you drew if
29715s	you draw blizzard you can just play it
29716s	on six right whereas with the belinda
29719s	and the barbara you do that on six and
29722s	then it's on seven that you actually
29723s	start to make your anti aggro play which
29725s	can sometimes be a little bit too slow
29727s	but
29728s	it's a big big hit to the overall like
29732s	power sealing of the deck by having that
29734s	six mana spell in there right it is i
29736s	think that compromise is exactly the
29738s	fact that belinda draws two cards so the
29741s	other card if you draw blizzard is going
29744s	to be a rune or the amulet right so like
29748s	the idea being that one of those at
29751s	worst is enough
29753s	and just relying on that blizzard doing
29755s	work in some of the tougher matchups so
29756s	it's definitely a trade-off and like you
29758s	said the the ceiling of power level of
29760s	the deck gets reduced just a little bit
29762s	but maybe it is just a call out to the
29765s	meta we've kind of found ourselves in
29766s	right because this feels like
29769s	there's almost just two overall line-up
29771s	strategies in this tournament one is the
29774s	sort of slower more end game-based decks
29776s	the other is aggro so if you run into a
29779s	lot of aggro players during the swiss
29781s	you might be very glad you had blizzard
29782s	in there instead
29784s	by the way just sort of looking at the
29786s	recap of the series that we'd have i've
29788s	talked a lot about mine rogue just kind
29790s	of being the deck so far in this
29791s	tournament we didn't see it because we
29793s	joined the game in game four but however
29796s	in game one gaboumei's rogue got out at
29798s	the first attempt and in game three
29801s	dravo's road got out the first attempt
29803s	so mine rogue even in this series uh
29806s	with unconventional decks left right and
29808s	center had a 100 win rate two two
29810s	attempts two wins for the mine rogue in
29812s	this series
29813s	unseen off camera so i get a feeling we
29817s	might just be looking at a little bit of
29819s	mine rogue in top 16 but we will
29821s	hopefully be able to reveal that to you
29823s	very shortly yeah i'm not very okay with
29825s	that
29826s	and also i think gaboume is very okay
29828s	with being able to coincoin belinda with
29831s	the blizzard in hand as well subtle so
29834s	uh it's uh it's ticking the whole boxes
29836s	right now for cameraman
29839s	yeah no hesitation whatsoever
29842s	do you take me for rooney the arc mage
29844s	in hand as well which means there's a
29845s	good chance for the uh the maximum 10
29848s	juice here it does hit the other room
29849s	okay fine nine ten will have to do
29852s	i think the the belinda's become the new
29854s	uh director right it's like no matter
29856s	what the board or the game state looks
29858s	like if you draw directvar on curve you
29860s	play drag tha on curve it just doesn't
29863s	matter and we see that with belinda time
29865s	and time again now it's going to go for
29867s	the
29869s	fire amulet just to build up a bit of a
29871s	board
29872s	order kazakhstan
29874s	that's dorm okay i feel it says a lot
29876s	about a person which eight eight you
29878s	pick because a lot of the time you're
29880s	offered like multiple different a tates
29882s	and i think it does say a lot about a
29883s	person which w which one you end up
29885s	picking
29886s	yeah
29887s	pick the artwork you don't see as often
29890s	sure
29894s	a rust drop viper nice timing just mean
29897s	gabby may takes a turn off doing uber
29900s	powerful things but i think killing the
29902s	weapon is very powerful even though it
29904s	doesn't necessarily look it at surface
29906s	level yeah and i think if you had the
29908s	other drake fire there then sure could
29911s	talk about it right but yeah like rune
29913s	of the arc mage yes sometimes it's
29915s	absolutely insane even when it's not
29917s	being used to clear a board but i think
29919s	in most situations probably less overall
29921s	power than just dealing with that rod on
29923s	the other side straight up
29925s	yeah i feel like not killing the rod
29927s	there opens you up to losing the game
29930s	right way more than than the odds of you
29932s	winning the game for playing roon
29940s	just be reckless ping if everybody
29942s	really wants it but also there is just
29945s	the fact that the rune of the arc mage
29946s	is still in hand and we've seen time and
29949s	time again just this weekend how
29952s	consistently powerful this is like i
29954s	think the worst thing that yeah there
29955s	you go the worst thing this can
29957s	realistically do is overdraw you and i
29959s	think with the size of gaboumei's hand
29961s	that seemed very unlikely
29965s	how is everyone's rune just so good
29972s	like with no real need to clear the
29974s	board on the other side he got
29977s	tempo value secret card draw like that
29979s	was the whole rune and their hand
29981s	reduction and the hand reduction yeah
29984s	exactly you can play the other one next
29985s	turn now
29986s	yep
29997s	quite rough for draevo and i'm a little
29998s	bit upset i've not caught much of this
30000s	warlock as of yet because again drevo's
30003s	6-1 going into round eight the warlock
30005s	must have done something but he's just
30007s	not looking great in this specific match
30009s	which uh again like i said is a bit of a
30011s	shame
30015s	[Music]
30016s	uh that seems like a problem
30021s	takes more damage go face
30024s	rune of the arc mage
30026s	go
30028s	arrow parrot is a rune as well and you
30030s	get to ping
30031s	alongside it i think
30033s	yeah in case of an ignite a rune a you
30036s	know whatever
30037s	yep broon door
30039s	life and
30041s	dragons
30043s	says a lot about power at which eight
30044s	eights they pick
30054s	the old fireball to the face the most
30058s	original way mage has won games of
30061s	hearthstone since the dawn of time gabby
30063s	mate takes the victory there
30065s	and uh takes that final round of swiss
30068s	so congratulations to him and again
30070s	there's still a great drop from dravo
30072s	again the warlock looked terrible let's
30074s	be honest from what we saw of it
30076s	but he but but he's got to that point
30078s	right he's got wins with it so far to
30080s	get this deep in the in the swiss so
30082s	there's still a good run from draevo
30084s	there in it pretty cool little look into
30087s	this series with just how things went
30089s	yeah and i would assume that that means
30092s	that we will be seeing government in top
30095s	16 now which is great because it gives
30097s	us a good chance of getting another look
30099s	at mine rogue but i will be
30101s	very curious once we reveal the the top
30104s	cut players hopefully very very soon um
30107s	obviously we won't be able to see line
30108s	up straight away but the very first
30110s	thing i'm going to be doing is looking
30112s	how many ball priests and how many bomb
30114s	rogues mine rogues that we have in that
30116s	top 16 because
30117s	someone has to be accounting for this
30119s	win rate the lots of people are winning
30121s	with it it can't just be the french
30124s	players on their own can it or can it
30127s	yeah okay well do you a glance subtle
30130s	quite happy with this a very fat cat i i
30134s	cast just a little bit earlier on
30135s	looking very nice and fire noodle of
30136s	course they were the main match on
30138s	stream but you look at this yu ying habu
30140s	gabu gabby
30142s	lovalova there and then on the right
30143s	we've got pocket train
30145s	pocket train fury hunter virtuos drevo
30149s	actually got in which is huge happy to
30152s	see that that's uh one point yeah for
30154s	the uh the old mine warlock uh it's
30156s	looking great as it often does in these
30159s	masters tours
30160s	yeah there was a great rhythm to that as
30162s	you went through as like habu gabu gabby
30164s	love a lover which is just a wonderful
30165s	just pattern of sounds that came out of
30168s	your mouth uh but yeah great looking top
30170s	16. oh happy
30173s	abby fury is a top-tier battle in terms
30177s	of the european region and the world uh
30180s	europe having some strong reps of course
30182s	raven shout out to pocket train this is
30184s	what we've wanted to see for a long long
30186s	time uh when i was saying i'll be
30188s	checking how many boar priests we have
30190s	in the top 16. there's one i can tell
30192s	you that one for nothing pocket train is
30194s	not only a ball priest pocket train is
30197s	the
30198s	boar priest um so i think there are
30200s	plenty of things to look forward to here
30203s	great european representation great
30205s	china representation
30207s	uh yeah i'm done talking actually
30210s	yeah well i will take this time to put
30212s	in my official request uh gabby versus
30215s	fury is the feature i'm actually top 16
30218s	i will uh
30219s	kick up a fuss if it is not because the
30222s	again
30223s	you guys don't know if you've been
30224s	watching competitive hearthstone for a
30226s	while we're big gabby fans we're big
30228s	fiori fans it helps that the two of the
30229s	best players in europe if not the world
30232s	you can make arguments for um and
30235s	it's gonna be such a great match my only
30237s	uh disappointment is that it is a top 16
30239s	match i was very okay with seeing that
30241s	as a finals uh but any final words
30244s	before we wrap up for the day so
30246s	uh yeah just though i think this has
30247s	been a really interesting tournament so
30249s	far i think it goes to show throughout
30252s	no one has been 100 sure what the lineup
30254s	is
30255s	we're not 100 sure what the lineup is i
30258s	think even the argument on twitter right
30259s	now going back and forth is some players
30261s	saying i feel like i've played better
30263s	than my opponents and have been rewarded
30265s	for it and then there's other people
30266s	saying i feel like i've played better
30268s	than my opponent and i went zero three
30270s	and dropped on day one you know like no
30272s	one can quite agree whether this is a
30274s	meta with agency or isn't what the
30275s	lineup is what the good tech cards are
30277s	do you play 30 cards in your deck do you
30279s	play 40 cards in your deck and i think
30281s	it'll be interesting now to see how this
30283s	meta develops and i guess on that note
30287s	one final shout out
30289s	make sure you tune in tomorrow because
30291s	we have been blessed with some card
30293s	reveals that we're gonna throw out to
30295s	you tomorrow as well and that means
30299s	we can of course see what the future is
30301s	going to look like as we find out a
30302s	little bit more information about what
30304s	the next expansion the murder mystery
30306s	that needs to be solved shortly coming
30308s	to you you don't want to miss that you
30310s	don't want to miss the top 16 that raven
30313s	and i will scream and claw and bite and
30316s	fight and riot until gets on stream i'm
30318s	pretty sure we've already got our wish
30319s	at this point fury versus gabby
30321s	potentially the top 16 matchup kicking
30323s	things off tomorrow yeah it's gonna be
30324s	great thanks a lot for watching as usual
30326s	make sure to check us out tomorrow where
30328s	we may have those card reveals for you
30330s	as well as plenty of great hearthstone
30332s	but yeah thanks for watching we'll see
30334s	you same time same place tomorrow
30338s	[Music]
30346s	so
30348s	[Music]
30358s	[Music]
30364s	[Music]
30370s	[Music]
30389s	[Music]
30398s	so
30408s	[Music]
30416s	[Music]
30421s	[Applause]
30427s	[Music]
30434s	[Music]
30444s	[Music]
30450s	[Music]
30455s	[Music]
30458s	god
30465s	[Music]
30469s	so
30473s	[Music]
30479s	[Music]
30482s	my hands
30484s	[Music]
30506s	[Music]
30508s	harvey's like there's no shot no shot
30509s	that he just bm well played me when he's
30511s	actually about to win through something
30513s	incredibly scammy right now that was
30515s	just an incredibly diplomatic and
30517s	well-mannered concede from your opponent
30519s	and habu
30520s	we can break the news to you right now
30522s	my friend
30529s	[Music]
30532s	i'm gonna call it too soon but yeah
30533s	there we go that's the big moment there
30535s	for habu gaboo i can't believe you're
30537s	still counting
30539s	he comes back takes the victory
30546s	that is why we do this that is why we
30550s	play this game
30568s	[Music]
30574s	[Music]
30581s	[Music]
30585s	you

[2022] 2022 Hearthstone Masters Tour Vashj'ir | Day 2

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