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| 1090s | i i didn't even see that that's insane |
| 1092s | what the heck that is incredible that's |
| 1095s | every minute destroyed |
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| 1102s | the bless that's just lethal right |
| 1105s | bless the pope joseph's like he's still |
| 1107s | going oh i can't imagine this doesn't |
| 1109s | end up being lethal at some point |
| 1112s | he's just dead on turn five just he just |
| 1114s | played a rod and then fell over |
| 1117s | which he got to do this entire game |
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| 1131s | welcome everybody to finals day here at |
| 1134s | master's talk voyage to the sunken city |
| 1137s | and we have had |
| 1138s | 365 players enter we're down to the last |
| 1141s | 16. we've had some jokes and fun along |
| 1143s | the way but jia today it's just time to |
| 1146s | get cereal how's it going that's cereal |
| 1149s | it's going great lorenda we have one of |
| 1152s | the most stacked top 16s i've ever seen |
| 1154s | in a masters tour i think just before we |
| 1156s | went live we were talking and raven |
| 1157s | pointed out that this is probably one of |
| 1159s | the |
| 1160s | most look forward to day threes of any |
| 1162s | masters tour we've had so far just the |
| 1164s | star power throughout these 16 players |
| 1167s | is nothing to be underestimated i am so |
| 1170s | excited to see who is going to walk away |
| 1172s | as the champion |
| 1173s | yeah it's really difficult to convey it |
| 1175s | because it's our job to say look at this |
| 1176s | top 16 it's really good we're looking |
| 1178s | forward to it but it actually is just |
| 1180s | absolutely astounding even a casual |
| 1182s | observer who watches just in and out of |
| 1184s | some masters tour maybe a stream or two |
| 1186s | will know a large number of these |
| 1188s | players this is what we've been playing |
| 1190s | we've been playing conquest format four |
| 1192s | play four decks per player and four |
| 1194s | unique classes you've got to win with |
| 1195s | each class once and one of your decks is |
| 1198s | banned out um yeah you can't win the |
| 1200s | same deck twice so i'm just reading it |
| 1201s | off now we went through eight rounds of |
| 1203s | swiss and basically the top 16 is |
| 1205s | players who finish on 7-1 or 8-0 for the |
| 1207s | large part so they played a lot of |
| 1209s | hearthstone already and they have done |
| 1211s | very well at it which is why they're the |
| 1212s | last 16 remaining |
| 1214s | indeed and in terms of conquest the |
| 1217s | question needs to be asked what is your |
| 1218s | priority ban because usually you build a |
| 1221s | lineup around the fact that you can get |
| 1223s | rid of one of the most powerful classes |
| 1225s | in the meta and that still remains to be |
| 1227s | argued about i would say a lot of people |
| 1229s | going for demon hunter bands others |
| 1231s | being fully aggressive with their lineup |
| 1233s | and getting rid of warrior others that |
| 1235s | are a bit greedier playing anti-control |
| 1237s | lineups and thus want to get rid of boar |
| 1239s | priests because that is a deck that can |
| 1241s | very much punish these slower ones in |
| 1242s | the meta and we have a very healthy mix |
| 1245s | of lineups left in our top 16 lorena |
| 1247s | we've seen pretty much an entire tour of |
| 1250s | the metagame throughout the past two |
| 1251s | days including warlocks here and there |
| 1254s | but after all has been said and done in |
| 1255s | swiss it does end up being no big |
| 1258s | surprise that warlock is the lowest win |
| 1260s | rate class of the tournament |
| 1262s | yeah absolutely no surprise to anybody |
| 1264s | um one thing that i think could be |
| 1267s | there's a lot of things that will |
| 1268s | surprise some people i don't think |
| 1270s | people knew how much druid was going to |
| 1272s | be in this tournament going in we knew |
| 1273s | it'd be somewhere between quite a bit |
| 1275s | and maybe a lot but the nerfs |
| 1278s | you have three days to learn the |
| 1279s | metagame to try out the druid which was |
| 1281s | nerfed and it seems you're like druid |
| 1283s | just didn't really get hurt that much it |
| 1286s | felt like it might and it's it's here |
| 1287s | and a well |
| 1289s | it is it still has a pretty healthy |
| 1291s | representation in the top 16 but i think |
| 1293s | many times we've seen on stream that its |
| 1295s | overall power level has been uh tweaked |
| 1298s | i would say in a good way from two |
| 1300s | different approaches tweaking it against |
| 1302s | slower control matchups by making |
| 1304s | kazakhstan a much harder condition to |
| 1307s | fulfill in order to play it and then the |
| 1309s | one mana bumper of miracle growth to |
| 1311s | eight mana has also hurt some of its |
| 1313s | prospects against aggro but overall |
| 1315s | you're still druid if you hit rampant to |
| 1317s | ramp into card draw there are very few |
| 1320s | things in the game that can stop you but |
| 1322s | it still is kind of an argument as to |
| 1325s | which is the strongest individual deck |
| 1327s | in the tournament i would say demon |
| 1329s | hunter but others say warrior |
| 1332s | yeah and it's going to be interesting in |
| 1333s | one of our first matches of the day |
| 1335s | somebody who's done very well with |
| 1336s | warrior over the last few weeks in that |
| 1338s | one quick look at his prize pool 14 000 |
| 1341s | for first 2 000 for getting out of bed |
| 1343s | this morning |
| 1344s | pretty good going but also the points |
| 1346s | available for seasonal championships are |
| 1348s | points available for last call grand |
| 1350s | masters uh all on the line and those two |
| 1353s | things get you a chance at the world |
| 1355s | championships so this is a lot of money |
| 1357s | but several of these players at least |
| 1359s | will be looking for the the bigger |
| 1361s | picture the big number of points you get |
| 1363s | for qualifying in first place and those |
| 1365s | shots at the huge money available in the |
| 1368s | world championships that's right there |
| 1370s | is a lot bubbling under the surface here |
| 1372s | it's not just about the money like you |
| 1374s | said there is a chance to qualify |
| 1375s | through to the seasonal championship |
| 1377s | that will be held |
| 1379s | later on this year and that is um a slot |
| 1382s | awarded to the winner of this tournament |
| 1384s | so for example last master story winner |
| 1386s | miss gabby already has his invite |
| 1388s | through to seasonals and they will be |
| 1391s | joined by um the 13 highest overall |
| 1395s | match wins players throughout these |
| 1397s | first three masters tours of the year |
| 1398s | and this is the third one so it's the |
| 1400s | last chance to get any more match |
| 1404s | i lost my train of thought please save |
| 1405s | me lauren |
| 1407s | this is what i was talking about we had |
| 1408s | some fun along the way especially with |
| 1410s | tj and his camera |
| 1412s | in multiple different ways but the |
| 1414s | serious business was taking place in the |
| 1416s | games at the same time |
| 1418s | seeing a recap of some of those right |
| 1421s | now |
| 1422s | um |
| 1423s | bobo has made it into this top eight jwc |
| 1426s | also made it in here so |
| 1427s | this match it didn't matter really did |
| 1429s | it they both got through anyway but it |
| 1431s | was a great match at the time we saw |
| 1432s | blize absolutely |
| 1435s | tear through this from 1-0 down to win |
| 1437s | it 3-1 i actually didn't see much of |
| 1439s | this match i'm sure i was i think it was |
| 1440s | on and i was just taking a rest or |
| 1442s | something i can't remember much about |
| 1443s | viper 94 letter at all |
| 1445s | i mean it was a very fun one just |
| 1447s | showing the huge power available to just |
| 1450s | running the soccer tavish at the top end |
| 1452s | of quest hunter it vastly improves your |
| 1454s | control wire match up and then the base |
| 1456s | of the deck is still great against aggro |
| 1457s | so there's also arguments to be said |
| 1459s | that quest hunter was one of the best |
| 1461s | brings going into this tournament i |
| 1463s | think that is very reasonable but we |
| 1464s | also have levick here on the naga mage |
| 1467s | giving a master class taking down neji |
| 1469s | boston who is also a very strong |
| 1470s | competitor but naga mage is another one |
| 1473s | of these decks that was perhaps slapped |
| 1475s | on by the majority of the field but we |
| 1477s | do have quite a few naga mage |
| 1479s | enthusiasts in our top 16. |
| 1481s | don't bow to twitter don't do it don't |
| 1484s | do it don't let that get rid of you naga |
| 1486s | mage |
| 1487s | we'll talk about it later uh just |
| 1489s | quickly flick through that game between |
| 1491s | um with faceoff in it there for a moment |
| 1493s | and |
| 1494s | yeah he got through as well as his |
| 1496s | opponent and then we the last match i |
| 1498s | didn't even see what it was because i |
| 1499s | was listening to you and staring at |
| 1500s | something else ready for this first |
| 1502s | match but there is our top 16 |
| 1504s | stacked stack lineup |
| 1506s | um headed by haber gabo who is the |
| 1510s | main proponent i would say of mage |
| 1511s | beating rank one legend with it excited |
| 1513s | against the odds and just staying there |
| 1515s | and pulling clear |
| 1517s | over the course of the month and then |
| 1519s | you see just so many big names i could |
| 1521s | read every single name out pretty much |
| 1523s | and you will have heard of so many of |
| 1525s | these anyone that stands out in |
| 1526s | particular out of this crazy field |
| 1529s | well of course i would have to highlight |
| 1532s | bunnyhopper versus possess you which is |
| 1533s | spoilers the match that we will be |
| 1535s | featuring for our top 16 because |
| 1537s | possessing is the current world champion |
| 1539s | facing off against one of the um no |
| 1541s | contest all-time greats of hearthstone |
| 1544s | bunny hopper has just been in the scene |
| 1546s | for as long as i can remember stayed |
| 1548s | throughout the entire grand masters |
| 1550s | duration of europe and has continued to |
| 1553s | perform well he's actively competing in |
| 1555s | the chinese league as well via team |
| 1557s | liquid and has just been putting out a |
| 1560s | lot of content on stream he's just never |
| 1562s | really taken a long break from |
| 1563s | hearthstone and i think he's showing |
| 1565s | that he still can be at his prime |
| 1567s | although like you said lorenda no matter |
| 1569s | where we look on that bracket there's a |
| 1571s | healthy representation of grandmasters |
| 1573s | and foreign masters very consistent |
| 1575s | masters tour performers and a little bit |
| 1578s | of new blood as well but one thing i |
| 1579s | wanted to highlight is that |
| 1581s | just like last masters tour in complete |
| 1583s | contrast to what we've been seeing |
| 1585s | throughout the past couple years is |
| 1586s | there's not that many players from china |
| 1590s | yeah it's gonna be interesting to see |
| 1592s | that just one or two hanging around in |
| 1593s | there but the the last year was |
| 1596s | absolutely dominated by the chinese |
| 1597s | players i think we all had to admit it |
| 1600s | finally we sort of held on for the from |
| 1602s | the year before it's like yeah we're |
| 1603s | still doing okay the chinese player is |
| 1604s | only winning half of our tournaments you |
| 1606s | know and no it's mainly like we're |
| 1608s | winning one or two of the chinese |
| 1610s | tournaments how it's felt the last six |
| 1612s | or seven but um this time around very |
| 1615s | good chance that it's going to go to |
| 1617s | a non-chinese non-european player oh |
| 1621s | are you seeing it laurent are you oh |
| 1627s | oh come on i mean the one thing we can |
| 1629s | agree on is it's probably not going to |
| 1631s | an america's player |
| 1633s | hey |
| 1634s | yeah actually looking down this list now |
| 1636s | you mention it all right sure |
| 1638s | it might be right |
| 1643s | oh dear |
| 1644s | we do have a possessive versus bunny |
| 1646s | hopper just like we mentioned as our |
| 1648s | featured match and possessing despite |
| 1650s | being the world champion he just very |
| 1652s | quietly snuck into top 16 at least we |
| 1654s | didn't quite get a good opportunity to |
| 1656s | show some of his broadcast matches |
| 1658s | yesterday because there were so many |
| 1659s | stacked matches happening every single |
| 1662s | round but now he gets his time in the |
| 1664s | sun against bunny hopper honestly it is |
| 1667s | so hard to say who is the underdog here |
| 1669s | both of these have such an incredible |
| 1671s | pedigree to their names but on the |
| 1673s | lineups gear i think possessing is a |
| 1675s | strong favorite he's brought this um ban |
| 1679s | demon hunter and then try and beat |
| 1680s | warrior lineup that we've seen once or |
| 1682s | twice that means it does include that |
| 1685s | mech paladin and the boar priest which |
| 1687s | is kind of a weird lineup but it's |
| 1688s | something that i think people are |
| 1689s | looking at strongly coming into this |
| 1691s | tournament and i think bunny hopper |
| 1693s | might have his work cut out to get this |
| 1694s | one done but |
| 1696s | if anyone's going to win with warrior |
| 1697s | against the odds at the moment it is |
| 1699s | bunny hopper he loves this deck he has |
| 1700s | been saying it's the best deck in the |
| 1702s | format he's going to get his chance to |
| 1703s | prove it |
| 1704s | that is true how poetic right to see |
| 1707s | bunny hopper actually prove that the |
| 1709s | warrior can get there even against a |
| 1711s | lineup that is hard targeting it |
| 1713s | possessing himself not bringing warrior |
| 1714s | because as you said he is trying to prey |
| 1717s | on it and i guess has had some pretty |
| 1719s | good luck throughout the bracket like he |
| 1721s | said he only faced an aggro lineup once |
| 1724s | if my understanding of japanese is good |
| 1726s | enough from his tweet and that was |
| 1728s | pretty good because his lineup is very |
| 1729s | very greedy absolutely needs to ban away |
| 1732s | naga dhs and |
| 1734s | if there are some of the lineups out |
| 1736s | there with like face hunters and aggro |
| 1738s | druids he would have been in trouble but |
| 1739s | so far he has hit the mark pretty |
| 1741s | consistently and once again can prey on |
| 1744s | bunny hopper with that warrior but |
| 1746s | bunny's gonna start off with his quest |
| 1747s | hunter which i think is in a reasonable |
| 1750s | spot in the match-up overall uh it can |
| 1753s | be pretty aggressive in terms of damage |
| 1756s | output so i think that's a pretty good |
| 1758s | match up into the boar priest and a |
| 1760s | close one against mack paladin |
| 1762s | yep absolutely i think hunter's in a |
| 1764s | good spot i am the stats say it's a |
| 1767s | close one against the meg paladin i'm |
| 1768s | still slightly argumentative about that |
| 1770s | i think the mech paladin is is fairly |
| 1772s | strongly favored there but |
| 1774s | you're you and the stats i i can't |
| 1776s | really argue with those let's face it |
| 1778s | with my pedigree so we'll go with that |
| 1780s | uh he is bringing the harpoon gun which |
| 1783s | has been found in a few of these quest |
| 1785s | hunters do you do you like this piece of |
| 1787s | texture or what do you think of it |
| 1789s | i think it's a very decent card just to |
| 1791s | get some more damage output through |
| 1793s | two copies i've seen some versions |
| 1795s | running that uh one copy with one copy |
| 1798s | of candleshot is quite rare because i |
| 1800s | tend to think that players choose one or |
| 1801s | the other with the weapon but they do |
| 1803s | fulfill very separate |
| 1805s | purposes in the quest hunter i think the |
| 1807s | candle shot there to support dragon bane |
| 1809s | shot and other removal spells to get rid |
| 1811s | of the odd health minions because so |
| 1813s | much of hunter's removal comes in |
| 1815s | increments of two whereas the harpoon |
| 1817s | gun is helping your uh long-term |
| 1820s | prospects judging up better draws |
| 1823s | with those two attacks and making sure |
| 1825s | that you can smoothly get to tavish or |
| 1827s | just |
| 1828s | deal more damage your opponent if |
| 1829s | they're not one of those healing classes |
| 1831s | possessing however is going to go for |
| 1834s | the mirror here on his own quest hunter |
| 1836s | that does not include the harpoon gun |
| 1838s | still has candle shot uh but it i would |
| 1840s | say those are not really the important |
| 1843s | part in the match up it is more about a |
| 1846s | race to drexar as the main one getting |
| 1848s | drachthar on board first is a huge thing |
| 1851s | but it's not necessarily about a race to |
| 1853s | getting tavish on board first because |
| 1855s | there's well enough damage to kill your |
| 1856s | opponent even without tavish |
| 1859s | yeah quite often you don't have the time |
| 1861s | to play tavis you're either about to die |
| 1863s | or you you need the damage or you're |
| 1865s | going to win yourself so tavish can can |
| 1867s | get quite interested five mana to do |
| 1869s | nothing for a turn um obviously it sets |
| 1871s | you up to win the next turn nearly every |
| 1873s | time you play it but this really is |
| 1876s | about who can |
| 1877s | count the best in some degrees can you |
| 1879s | make it so your opponent is likely to |
| 1881s | only get you down to one or two health |
| 1883s | so you get one more turn |
| 1885s | and that sounds obvious if you don't die |
| 1888s | win the game but |
| 1889s | if you can just make it so your opponent |
| 1891s | can only do 29 damage to you instead of |
| 1893s | 30 it is the difference between winning |
| 1895s | and losing very often in this matchup |
| 1897s | absolutely all about those break points |
| 1899s | and that's why i think that bunny hopper |
| 1901s | in terms of lists should be slightly |
| 1902s | ahead here the only difference in the |
| 1904s | line in the deck list is that possession |
| 1906s | has two marked shots whereas bunny has |
| 1908s | only one to make room for the one of |
| 1910s | harpoon gun and harpoon gun is just kind |
| 1912s | of six damage face |
| 1914s | over two turns only costs three mana and |
| 1916s | if this does become a face race mark |
| 1918s | shot i think is way too slow here it is |
| 1921s | great value and better against warrior |
| 1923s | for example which i think is why |
| 1925s | possessing has two of those in his list |
| 1927s | but in the mirror i don't think that |
| 1928s | getting that extra discover spell is |
| 1930s | going to be as useful as just straight |
| 1932s | up face damage |
| 1934s | yeah the the deck lists make sense |
| 1936s | within their lineups so possessing |
| 1938s | targeting that the slower deck so he has |
| 1940s | the mark shots for the the slower |
| 1942s | approach bunny hop has just brought the |
| 1944s | four best decks as far as |
| 1946s | raw power level is concerned so he's |
| 1948s | gone with the split harpoon gun candle |
| 1950s | shot just gives himself that um |
| 1953s | that balanced approach not only within |
| 1955s | the deck but within the lineup so |
| 1957s | different approaches right from the |
| 1959s | drawing board which is what a lot of |
| 1961s | people forget who just watched these |
| 1962s | tournaments they'll copy a deck list and |
| 1963s | go well why isn't this working on ladder |
| 1965s | well the answer quite often is because |
| 1967s | it's a targeted decklist it's trying to |
| 1968s | do something that you're not trying to |
| 1970s | do on ladder um like playing mech |
| 1972s | paladin for instance you don't want to |
| 1973s | do that on ladder because you can't ban |
| 1975s | demon hunter |
| 1977s | and that's a big big deal against that |
| 1979s | deck |
| 1980s | indeed |
| 1981s | still banging the mack paladin drum |
| 1983s | there oh absolutely that's not on |
| 1984s | youtube |
| 1985s | it is on stream it's going to be on |
| 1987s | stream in a moment i mean not right |
| 1989s | now i could be |
| 1992s | so possessing is on the play here which |
| 1995s | is something relevant i would say |
| 1997s | obviously both players just want to go |
| 1998s | for their quest on turn one there is a |
| 2000s | world where if bunny had a two drop you |
| 2002s | could coin it out here and say that okay |
| 2004s | three health that's actually kind of |
| 2006s | hard to clear on two mana for hunter but |
| 2009s | since he doesn't have the option to |
| 2010s | pre-develop anything i expect it's just |
| 2013s | quest for him but for possessing the big |
| 2015s | deal is that he doesn't have a two cost |
| 2017s | damage spell here like the arcane shot |
| 2020s | could be very valuable if this does turn |
| 2022s | into a situation where it's first player |
| 2024s | to play tavish questerward wins then you |
| 2027s | almost always want to maintain a one |
| 2029s | cost spell for your turn six and just |
| 2030s | say okay i can play tavish on the very |
| 2032s | same turn and that's a huge advantage |
| 2034s | but having to just hero power on turn |
| 2036s | two and have a hand full of expensive |
| 2039s | spells means that he will be behind on |
| 2041s | quest completion although piercing shot |
| 2042s | does afford him a lot of damage if there |
| 2045s | are targets to be found yeah it's a long |
| 2047s | way behind though we've seen this before |
| 2049s | in this matchup the person who draws |
| 2051s | their four drops is so far behind not |
| 2053s | because of when they get to turn four |
| 2054s | lack of power but just doing nothing for |
| 2057s | two turns bunny hopper so many options |
| 2060s | already this turn and the turn after |
| 2063s | even got a decision to make with the |
| 2065s | coin whether he maybe wants to track him |
| 2066s | look for coin director is another thing |
| 2068s | he can do here he has got a lot of |
| 2070s | options on how he wants to play this i |
| 2072s | would be very interested in tracking for |
| 2074s | drexar here it just is the main benefit |
| 2077s | of having coin in the match-up is the |
| 2079s | possibility of playing draktar first but |
| 2081s | bunny disagrees he says he wants quest |
| 2083s | stage uh one done and dusted uses both |
| 2086s | of the one cost spells and is perhaps |
| 2089s | just looking at aimed shot to follow up |
| 2091s | and not even bothering with uh the |
| 2094s | drexar game plan because of course |
| 2095s | tracking doesn't give you particularly |
| 2097s | good odds to actually find it |
| 2099s | yeah aim shot one of the best cards in |
| 2101s | the matchup is it a keep in the mulligan |
| 2103s | is it that good do you think |
| 2105s | i think it's very reasonable to keep in |
| 2107s | this matchup it just |
| 2108s | kinda is um five damage for three if you |
| 2112s | include the two bonus to the hero power |
| 2113s | you get and turn three can often be like |
| 2117s | an awkward one for hunter where they |
| 2119s | don't necessarily spend all their mana |
| 2121s | efficiently so just having the best |
| 2123s | damage spell guaranteed in the mirror i |
| 2124s | think is very reasonable uh so we see |
| 2127s | both players trading back and forth with |
| 2129s | the aimed shots but possessing is in |
| 2131s | trouble here he just doesn't have |
| 2133s | targets for piercing shot picks up |
| 2135s | dragon bane so he at least has something |
| 2138s | to do with part of his mana but again |
| 2140s | just hero powering here |
| 2142s | i mean it's not terrible in the sense |
| 2144s | that you are still getting damage but |
| 2146s | it's slower damage and we don't know |
| 2148s | what the break points are going to look |
| 2150s | like at the end it could end up in a |
| 2151s | situation where if possession had just |
| 2153s | had a quick shot instead of one of those |
| 2155s | hero powers maybe he puts bunny one turn |
| 2158s | faster towards lethal |
| 2159s | yeah and that would have been maybe one |
| 2160s | of the reasons not to get drexthar early |
| 2162s | here as well bunnyhop is seeing |
| 2164s | possessive doing nothing on turn two |
| 2166s | that's a big pointer that possession has |
| 2168s | those expensive |
| 2170s | targets on minion cards so drekhthar you |
| 2173s | know it'd still be good might have |
| 2174s | actually given possession a way to spend |
| 2176s | his mana more efficiently and so yeah |
| 2179s | maybe part of the thinking there another |
| 2181s | difficult choice here obviously |
| 2183s | rajnashan is usually |
| 2185s | insta pick here but if you don't think |
| 2187s | you're gonna be able to use it if the |
| 2188s | weapon's gonna get that repeated damage |
| 2189s | in yeah i thought he might do this |
| 2192s | um |
| 2193s | down |
| 2194s | yeah the minion does provide a target |
| 2196s | for possession i was actually gonna |
| 2197s | bring up a counter point to what you're |
| 2199s | saying about drachthar is yes it does |
| 2201s | give possessive targets but with three |
| 2203s | on board possessing is very unlikely to |
| 2205s | be able to kill all of them in one turn |
| 2207s | if dractor had come down on turn three |
| 2209s | like usually that was possible in the |
| 2211s | mirror back when bola shot was a thing |
| 2214s | but now a lot of the spells are just |
| 2215s | single target and so dracula is still a |
| 2217s | big threat but over here for bunny he |
| 2220s | did take the harpoon gun which i agree |
| 2222s | with but i really expected him to just |
| 2223s | play it out here instead he has gone for |
| 2226s | further progressing the quest does not |
| 2228s | want to miss a single turn of hero power |
| 2230s | which is also very relevant because |
| 2232s | there are still at least two more turns |
| 2234s | where he needs to damage possessing so |
| 2235s | he's still gonna get full value from the |
| 2237s | harpoon gun |
| 2239s | meanwhile possessing |
| 2241s | even though it's keeping it close on |
| 2242s | health is getting to the point where |
| 2243s | he's running out of good things to do |
| 2247s | true and having to take cheap cars here |
| 2250s | just to stay going he's still in this |
| 2251s | game obviously um he is managing to |
| 2254s | spend mana here's managing to do things |
| 2256s | every turn and advance the quest |
| 2258s | uh but it feels like he's half a turn |
| 2260s | behind but as i said in the intro those |
| 2262s | half turns can he survive when it's like |
| 2265s | bunny's turn to try and kill him can |
| 2266s | possess he survive on one and just get |
| 2268s | over the line himself that's how this is |
| 2270s | going to pan out in the end one way or |
| 2271s | the other |
| 2273s | feeling highly unlikely that possession |
| 2275s | can get there because i don't think |
| 2276s | bunny will have any um |
| 2279s | like trapped i don't i don't think he |
| 2281s | will fall into the trap of leaving a |
| 2283s | minion on board right he does have wound |
| 2284s | prey but when that's played it's either |
| 2286s | going to get piercing shotted by bunny |
| 2288s | himself or it's just dealing lethal this |
| 2290s | turn does become awkward though because |
| 2293s | the only thing he can really spend his |
| 2294s | mana efficiently on is harpoon gun the |
| 2297s | razna you don't really |
| 2298s | want to use without any additional value |
| 2301s | and also just playing it on board feels |
| 2303s | like a detriment giving possession a |
| 2305s | target |
| 2306s | trying to work out just how much damage |
| 2308s | he would have next turn |
| 2310s | and i'm not making it up to 13 at the |
| 2312s | moment |
| 2313s | yeah not even if he takes it |
| 2316s | um so he still has a hero power left so |
| 2318s | possessing 11 and then he's at eight |
| 2320s | with the second weapon charge so if |
| 2323s | bunny takes dragon bane shot |
| 2325s | that is two damage plus hero power |
| 2328s | plus the raz the raj which is six damage |
| 2332s | plus wound prey i think it would be |
| 2334s | exactly eight because he's held onto |
| 2336s | coin |
| 2337s | okay |
| 2338s | okay but he just cashes in the wound |
| 2340s | prey now saying that |
| 2343s | if he has lethal the next turn it |
| 2344s | doesn't matter if possessing uh piercing |
| 2347s | shots this he's never done okay oh but |
| 2349s | that is the hero card this is where all |
| 2352s | the calculations get messed up now |
| 2354s | additional five armor potential for |
| 2357s | possession here |
| 2359s | five armor but a turn of doing nothing |
| 2361s | in return for |
| 2363s | a hero power that only is going to do |
| 2365s | damage if a huffer is wrong because it's |
| 2367s | going to be rolled once this hero power |
| 2368s | in the whole game |
| 2371s | tavis resetting the zero cost of course |
| 2375s | i don't even know if he'll have the time |
| 2377s | to use the hero power but possess he has |
| 2379s | to know that bunny floating amana here |
| 2381s | and being willing to leave up a 1-1 |
| 2384s | there's a very high likelihood that |
| 2385s | possessing is just dead and the way that |
| 2388s | bunny set it up i'm pretty sure he also |
| 2390s | found a lethal that didn't involve what |
| 2392s | i was saying of taking the dragon bane |
| 2393s | shot it probably involves just using |
| 2394s | mark shot with raznashan |
| 2397s | yep |
| 2400s | and now he's yeah |
| 2402s | yeah |
| 2404s | into action as well right if i blow up |
| 2406s | my own verge what happens here |
| 2409s | that doesn't work right i actually don't |
| 2410s | know it doesn't work or he'd have done |
| 2412s | it by now |
| 2413s | okay so if it doesn't work then he was |
| 2415s | kind of relying on there being a minion |
| 2417s | on the other side to actually get the |
| 2418s | lethal because uh |
| 2420s | correct me if i'm wrong if he had |
| 2423s | dragon bane shot here |
| 2425s | and hadn't played the wound prey yet |
| 2427s | would he have lethal |
| 2429s | um |
| 2433s | two four i don't |
| 2435s | oh yeah he probably would actually |
| 2437s | that's what i counted last turn but i am |
| 2439s | honestly not sure |
| 2442s | anyway he puts the dragon bane on top |
| 2445s | now i guess because it is certainly |
| 2446s | lethal this turn and now possessing has |
| 2449s | a chance |
| 2452s | to get there |
| 2455s | yep |
| 2457s | and it's a big chance as well |
| 2460s | handle shots won the hero powers two so |
| 2462s | almost any spell in the deck will get |
| 2464s | there |
| 2468s | mark shotting his own raj just to take |
| 2471s | the target off the board for piercing |
| 2472s | shot but he doesn't get the damage like |
| 2474s | we said tracking that's gotta end it you |
| 2476s | would think |
| 2480s | quick shot that's a game |
| 2482s | unbelievable i thought bunny was gonna |
| 2484s | get this for sure because like you said |
| 2486s | he was kind of half a turn ahead for the |
| 2488s | majority of the game |
| 2490s | yeah i don't want to call it a mistake |
| 2492s | but the the turning point definitely |
| 2493s | where the piercing shot got to do five |
| 2495s | damage |
| 2497s | and |
| 2498s | without that maybe bunny hopper still |
| 2499s | gets there but obviously he did need to |
| 2501s | get his own damage in there i think he |
| 2502s | counted his top decks and he had a lot |
| 2504s | of them i imagine for lethal there but |
| 2506s | possessing the world champion starting |
| 2509s | off 1-0 ahead in this already favored |
| 2512s | match-up for him so very nice possession |
| 2514s | to get that hunter out of there |
| 2516s | yeah it is true i think hunter |
| 2518s | definitely still has a very reasonable |
| 2520s | shot of getting there against warrior |
| 2522s | which is what it's in the lineup for |
| 2523s | mainly to begin with but that matchup |
| 2526s | does kind of rely on my opinion |
| 2528s | in getting the |
| 2530s | hero card tavish reasonably early there |
| 2533s | are some iterations where it's at the |
| 2534s | bottom of your deck and even if you |
| 2536s | track |
| 2537s | without the harpoon gun to try and |
| 2539s | dredge it up to the top a super late |
| 2541s | tavish can allow warrior to maybe |
| 2544s | go for a counter-lethal with nelly |
| 2545s | discovers or something like that |
| 2547s | but now just having the reassurance of |
| 2549s | the hunters out of the way is obviously |
| 2551s | another feather in possession's cap now |
| 2553s | he only needs to get a win with mack |
| 2555s | paladin and alignment druid uh up |
| 2558s | against any of bunny stacks because the |
| 2560s | bar priest has been banned away |
| 2563s | glad you said that yeah i hadn't |
| 2564s | actually just clicked it down as a druid |
| 2566s | but yes it is that alignment druid that |
| 2568s | a lot of people were talking about |
| 2570s | coming into the tournament as being hey |
| 2572s | everyone's got to play alignment to it |
| 2573s | but i don't think there's been that many |
| 2575s | actually brought when the final count |
| 2577s | happened or at least not that many |
| 2578s | towards the top of the swiss |
| 2581s | yeah uh alignment i think a lot of |
| 2583s | people |
| 2584s | when the nerfs to kazakhstan first hit |
| 2587s | kind of gravitated towards like oh yeah |
| 2588s | i just played this type of druid it's |
| 2590s | still really good there are lists being |
| 2592s | thrown around on twitter i think |
| 2593s | famously by norwich with the blademaster |
| 2596s | okani in there at the end because you |
| 2599s | can do that combo of going alignment |
| 2601s | play your entire hand with anacondra |
| 2602s | huge board and then you alignment again |
| 2605s | so your opponent only has one mana |
| 2608s | and sorry before that you have to play |
| 2609s | okani so that with their one mana you |
| 2611s | can counter any spell that would have |
| 2613s | potentially dealt with your board |
| 2615s | however that's not necessarily checkmate |
| 2618s | against warrior because they can play |
| 2620s | like shield shatter for zero even with |
| 2622s | one mana remaining and then use their |
| 2623s | one mana brawl post alignment to clear |
| 2625s | your board |
| 2626s | it's a tricky match-up still |
| 2629s | it still just feels like a lot of the |
| 2630s | time that it's um |
| 2632s | a one car if you've got guff in play and |
| 2635s | you play alignment like you can do what |
| 2637s | you like with the rest of it surely just |
| 2639s | just move on with your life and get two |
| 2640s | mana every turn it just seems like |
| 2644s | um that's an extra step that maybe you |
| 2645s | don't even need as a combo in there as |
| 2647s | long as you just play some stuff that |
| 2649s | you can play with your guff afterwards |
| 2653s | did you say guff stuff |
| 2654s | i deliberately didn't but yeah i i i |
| 2658s | kind of alluded to it you're cool yeah |
| 2659s | you kind of did |
| 2661s | that's all right |
| 2663s | i have one jay after all this time he's |
| 2666s | starting to um get to me |
| 2668s | that's right i have watched a fair |
| 2669s | amount of america's grand masters and i |
| 2672s | know the ways of the guff stuff |
| 2675s | bunny is the one on the druid here |
| 2677s | though which is not an alignment version |
| 2679s | it is just straight up kazakhstan which |
| 2681s | honestly has taken a huge hit in overall |
| 2684s | power level because it's so difficult to |
| 2686s | activate kazakhstan these days you need |
| 2688s | to find the time to play down your |
| 2691s | amalgams of the deep in this version and |
| 2694s | uh raid boss anexia |
| 2696s | there are other versions that are even |
| 2697s | greedier with the malagos and alex rosa |
| 2700s | at the top end but i do favor this one |
| 2701s | you need to maintain some tools to deal |
| 2704s | with aggro we see that bunny has gone |
| 2706s | for the version that does not plague uh |
| 2710s | the spammy arcanist usually i see that |
| 2712s | there when you have druid of the reef |
| 2713s | but bunny's actually gone for druid of |
| 2715s | the wreath and dozing towel keeper |
| 2718s | two copies of both which is an unusual |
| 2720s | combination but he definitely has a lot |
| 2722s | of anti-aggro in mind with these options |
| 2726s | yeah we haven't seen as much kelp keeper |
| 2728s | as you would expect in this tournament |
| 2729s | because of that druid of the reef |
| 2731s | version that's been floating around |
| 2733s | which is amazing to me because it's such |
| 2734s | an amazing card for anti-aggro but i |
| 2738s | guess it's |
| 2739s | are you even going to say this a tiny |
| 2741s | bit slow compared to druid of the reef |
| 2743s | which just does the same job instantly |
| 2745s | with a lot of three health minions |
| 2747s | hanging around these days |
| 2748s | um but yeah bunny hopper just not going |
| 2750s | to |
| 2751s | let people get on board playing both of |
| 2753s | those just for that insurance which is |
| 2756s | pretty cool actually and very bunny hop |
| 2758s | alike as well indeed |
| 2761s | oh but boy is he going to have an uphill |
| 2764s | battle in this matchup because one druid |
| 2766s | has alignment and the other doesn't |
| 2768s | which means that when they both go back |
| 2770s | to one mana possession will have access |
| 2773s | to playing anacondra and basically his |
| 2775s | entire hand drawing basically the entire |
| 2778s | deck if he has malygos as well and bunny |
| 2780s | will have next to nothing he can do |
| 2782s | about it like honestly has to hope for |
| 2785s | possessing just not hitting alignment |
| 2787s | which does not feel particularly likely |
| 2790s | yeah given that the whole deck is built |
| 2792s | around doing exactly that one thing i |
| 2795s | would say it is pretty light that |
| 2796s | possess he gets to do that so bunny |
| 2798s | hopper does have those early minions |
| 2800s | maybe he can put some pressure on to |
| 2802s | make sure that alignment's |
| 2803s | um a little bit behind the times but we |
| 2805s | shall see |
| 2807s | what he keeps in this mulligan because |
| 2809s | he has got access to |
| 2811s | a kind of curve |
| 2813s | possessing rubbing his hands together |
| 2815s | praying for the ramp into the alignment |
| 2818s | and the anacondra it just can't be |
| 2821s | alignment on its own i don't think |
| 2822s | because there are ways for an opposing |
| 2825s | druid to punish just alignment without |
| 2827s | board development because bunny is also |
| 2829s | playing naga giants which will go down |
| 2831s | to zero well one but like you will have |
| 2834s | played a spell by then so effectively |
| 2836s | zero by the time your opponent plays |
| 2837s | alignment and if you punish them with uh |
| 2840s | just two eight eights or even more on |
| 2842s | the backswing let's say if he had um |
| 2844s | oracle of elune plus both giants he can |
| 2846s | make a big |
| 2847s | counter push on board so possessing |
| 2849s | needs to find the right timing for the |
| 2851s | alignment as well which is generally |
| 2853s | when you can immediately follow it up |
| 2855s | with lady anacondra also bunny as a |
| 2857s | druid will have access to ramping post |
| 2859s | alignment he's doing it |
| 2862s | he's going for the curve |
| 2863s | yeah |
| 2864s | he thought about this long and hard as |
| 2866s | bunny hopper is want to do um but you |
| 2870s | did get sometimes you can tell that he's |
| 2871s | just sitting there sort of |
| 2872s | getting ready for the match-up or you |
| 2874s | know getting himself psyched up for the |
| 2876s | game but this one looked like a long |
| 2878s | hard thing do i really want to do this |
| 2880s | and he's going for it we might see |
| 2883s | some explosive action in his first |
| 2884s | couple of turns we could just a couple |
| 2887s | four fours whacking possession in the |
| 2889s | head i'm not really sure but bunny |
| 2891s | didn't coin out the second one because i |
| 2893s | think he has it in mind that he wants to |
| 2894s | go jerry rig for the nourish and then |
| 2896s | coin out the nourish on turn four but |
| 2898s | now with goffin hand there are alternate |
| 2901s | options |
| 2902s | you said he is keeping a curve so that |
| 2905s | is sort of a counter argument for going |
| 2907s | early as possible guff because that |
| 2909s | would interfere with earliest possible |
| 2911s | nourish which would wake up his 4-4 i |
| 2914s | have never seen anybody |
| 2916s | as almost disappointed to draw a guff of |
| 2919s | bunny as bunny was just there |
| 2922s | he's you're still happy to see it but |
| 2923s | now he's there's the whole thing of oh |
| 2925s | now i have to think what i'm going to do |
| 2926s | with this because now i have so many |
| 2928s | options |
| 2930s | made him have to actually work out how |
| 2932s | he wants to go about it but yeah |
| 2933s | obviously he's not sad about it it's |
| 2935s | just oh my god typical |
| 2937s | oh |
| 2939s | well both players have their guff but |
| 2941s | one of their pl one of these players has |
| 2943s | alignment as well a little bit awkward |
| 2945s | for possessing in that his turn three is |
| 2947s | pretty much dead he just hero powers the |
| 2949s | jerry rig |
| 2950s | no wild growth here but he does have the |
| 2952s | mana saber on the follow-up which would |
| 2955s | you know help him play goff and hero |
| 2958s | power on the same turn which allows him |
| 2961s | to ramp for two the way nourish would |
| 2963s | except you played goff already |
| 2966s | yeah and possesses |
| 2968s | probably spending a lot of this time |
| 2970s | working out what the two cards are |
| 2972s | or the card left that bunny hopper kept |
| 2974s | in his opener |
| 2975s | this is obviously a bit of a weird start |
| 2977s | that he's seen i think he's expecting |
| 2978s | some curve yeah and he decided to take |
| 2980s | care of this and leave a minion on board |
| 2983s | to to deal with anything else that might |
| 2984s | turn up |
| 2987s | any wild growth for anyone |
| 2990s | nope it is very much an even sort of |
| 2992s | starting early game for both of our |
| 2994s | players where they have hit jerry rig |
| 2996s | into nourish but they haven't hit the |
| 2998s | earliest possible ramp uh possessing |
| 3000s | however does have access to that escape |
| 3002s | mana saber so once again bunny hopper i |
| 3005s | think is gonna be half a turn behind and |
| 3007s | by the time the alignment hits maybe |
| 3009s | five turns behind |
| 3011s | yeah he will get the coin guff first |
| 3014s | though so |
| 3016s | that's something to at least start |
| 3017s | getting him half a turn ahead in the |
| 3018s | manner at least but |
| 3020s | i do agree with you that |
| 3023s | this alignment is going to be pretty |
| 3025s | early most likely |
| 3027s | i mean it still is a question of is it |
| 3030s | coin goth because he could quite nourish |
| 3031s | and get two four fours immediately |
| 3035s | yeah that's probably actually right |
| 3037s | but then the two four fours should slow |
| 3038s | things down on the other side mana saber |
| 3040s | obviously know what buddy wants to see |
| 3041s | here but thoroughly expected at the same |
| 3043s | time |
| 3046s | picks up scale not particularly useful |
| 3049s | at this juncture |
| 3052s | he doesn't have to be scared of |
| 3053s | alignment on the very next turn just yet |
| 3055s | but i think bunny will have it in the |
| 3057s | back of his head that by the time |
| 3058s | alignment is a constant threat he wants |
| 3060s | to have the naga giants in hand |
| 3062s | preferably he's one of oracle of elune |
| 3064s | as well just so he has some sort of |
| 3066s | counter push when that happens or |
| 3068s | perhaps you think that possessee would |
| 3071s | not play alignment in the first place if |
| 3073s | he didn't have an amazing follow-up so |
| 3075s | you are just supposed to go for like as |
| 3077s | aggressive as possible of an early game |
| 3080s | who knows |
| 3082s | yeah there's also an argument there for |
| 3083s | if you're not going to spend all your |
| 3085s | mana before you get aligned just save |
| 3086s | the guff until afterwards and play it |
| 3088s | for one month that seems nice |
| 3090s | save yourself the effort of spending all |
| 3092s | the the money ramping up but he's going |
| 3094s | to play sensibly play the guff |
| 3097s | sort of give up on the 4-4 plan at least |
| 3099s | for now and |
| 3101s | try and put pressure on with the real |
| 3102s | cards in the deck |
| 3104s | the four-fours aren't particularly |
| 3106s | effective here they got nothing to rush |
| 3108s | into because of the stealth and we have |
| 3110s | possessed here able to go |
| 3112s | rampant growth |
| 3115s | and moonlit after he doesn't even have |
| 3117s | to unstealth his mana saber this turn |
| 3119s | there's no reason to |
| 3121s | yeah oh anacondra |
| 3125s | extra anacondra mind you |
| 3128s | sure yeah just in case for those times |
| 3131s | when one isn't enough |
| 3134s | i don't know when those times are but |
| 3136s | i'm sure they |
| 3137s | exist as i see choosing the nourish over |
| 3140s | gov here allows him to play that moonlit |
| 3143s | because again he could have played guff |
| 3146s | and then attacked with a mana saver and |
| 3147s | then he could still use the guff hero |
| 3149s | power to ramp for two which is as much |
| 3150s | as nourish would have done but it would |
| 3152s | not have allowed him to go for the |
| 3153s | moonlit and that moonlit could be the |
| 3155s | difference maker here because with the |
| 3157s | anacondra in hand possessing does have |
| 3159s | the license to play alignment as soon as |
| 3162s | he likes |
| 3163s | yeah you see him hovering over all the |
| 3165s | good cars in his hands that happen after |
| 3168s | he plays anacondra as well |
| 3170s | just checking some ordering things i |
| 3171s | think there |
| 3174s | all right bunnies stocking up |
| 3176s | on resources finally gets the four fours |
| 3178s | awake but again still nothing to rush |
| 3182s | into possessive very cleverly keeping |
| 3183s | the saber stealth here |
| 3190s | just |
| 3191s | because i honestly didn't oh maybe he's |
| 3194s | expecting alignment so he wants to play |
| 3195s | the zero cost card already before it |
| 3197s | costs one |
| 3198s | that's fair joe yeah |
| 3201s | a giant you can put that at the top |
| 3206s | okay |
| 3207s | well gives him some sort of plan but |
| 3209s | here we go |
| 3211s | yeah i see possessive's plan alignment |
| 3214s | then he goes back up to one again |
| 3216s | because of the saver and then anacondra |
| 3218s | all the nature spells cost zero and he |
| 3219s | also just drew miracle growth and he can |
| 3222s | fill up his hand almost entirely before |
| 3224s | playing it it's gonna be a maximum size |
| 3226s | miracle growth and there's a malagos as |
| 3228s | well |
| 3229s | yep that's gonna give him everything |
| 3232s | else in his deck |
| 3234s | [Music] |
| 3236s | he can go for one and it gives him the |
| 3238s | one back so the guff is just free |
| 3243s | it's just a carousel of cards at this |
| 3245s | point they come into the hand they go |
| 3247s | out of the |
| 3248s | hand revolving door some more just turn |
| 3250s | up they go out as well |
| 3254s | look at this silliness |
| 3256s | yep |
| 3257s | i mean he can scale if he wants to just |
| 3259s | while he has board space because he's |
| 3261s | not really going to have board space |
| 3263s | later for a good reason he's just |
| 3264s | playing all the minions in his deck |
| 3267s | yep just clear up some things while |
| 3269s | you're at it |
| 3271s | miracle growth |
| 3272s | again |
| 3275s | you could temple kazakhstan it doesn't |
| 3277s | matter but he probably won't just |
| 3278s | because that's like the one tiny chance |
| 3280s | he might lose is if somehow bunny can |
| 3283s | have a kazakhstan active and deal with |
| 3285s | this board get a one or something i |
| 3286s | don't know that doesn't even exist |
| 3288s | because he just wins |
| 3289s | yeah just get brawl because it bugs out |
| 3292s | and gives you warrior cards from your |
| 3293s | other deck |
| 3295s | that doesn't happen you know we might |
| 3298s | wait possessing did not trade his onyxia |
| 3301s | when it was him no |
| 3302s | he did some really weird ordering there |
| 3304s | i think he took the first two welps in |
| 3306s | got himself down to one whelp then was |
| 3308s | drawing cards and playing cards then |
| 3310s | sort of |
| 3311s | absent-mindedly almost traded in the |
| 3312s | other well maybe to make this nice maybe |
| 3314s | he didn't care he just wanted the big |
| 3315s | stuff after he drew it maybe that's why |
| 3317s | he waited |
| 3319s | or maybe he's asserting dominance |
| 3320s | because he knows it doesn't matter |
| 3325s | yeah one thing he had to do um the only |
| 3327s | small downside of the turn at all is he |
| 3330s | had to sort of play cards as he saw them |
| 3332s | so i think the way he did it was save |
| 3334s | the wealth then when he found the giants |
| 3336s | and the the growth he was like okay this |
| 3337s | is cool i don't need to use 14 now |
| 3341s | it's just a possessive classic we |
| 3343s | sometimes see this in a pack where he's |
| 3344s | like has a little brain fart but it |
| 3346s | really doesn't affect the overall game |
| 3348s | plan and absolutely he had the macro on |
| 3351s | point here just get the alignment and |
| 3352s | the anacondra however double anexia turn |
| 3356s | not bad from bunny you can clear off |
| 3358s | like the important threats here there is |
| 3361s | still going to be a giant at the end |
| 3364s | yeah |
| 3367s | yeah |
| 3370s | okay so only 15 on board for possess you |
| 3373s | know where lethal uh he has alex strazza |
| 3376s | in hand so actually it's 23 but still |
| 3379s | not enough to kill so i think he should |
| 3381s | just be fine if he just clears bunny's |
| 3384s | board and then proceeds to develop once |
| 3386s | again because he has access to more |
| 3389s | threats in the deck than bunny does |
| 3390s | simply just by virtue of being an |
| 3392s | alignment deck |
| 3394s | borderline being on a fair fight now |
| 3395s | though although there is that other |
| 3397s | anaconda still to come at some point |
| 3398s | that you mentioned earlier |
| 3400s | yeah fair |
| 3402s | i |
| 3403s | not sure like he is going to end up with |
| 3406s | a giant and a mana saber here minimum he |
| 3409s | could even temple kazakhstan again but |
| 3411s | probably not necessary |
| 3414s | anaconda number three nope okay he takes |
| 3417s | amalgam because he wants to activate his |
| 3418s | kazakhstan sure only four cards left in |
| 3420s | deck |
| 3423s | yeah now it's active |
| 3425s | and that's gonna be the game right |
| 3427s | [Music] |
| 3428s | after that last turn where bunny hopper |
| 3430s | managed to strike back for one turn and |
| 3432s | clear some cards up i was going to not |
| 3434s | make an opinion yeah |
| 3437s | is bunnies |
| 3438s | he played two onyxia's and i guess one |
| 3440s | amalgam so far so |
| 3443s | if he plays the other amalgam then he |
| 3444s | could kazakuson and draw a car but he's |
| 3447s | still like behind here |
| 3449s | and also yeah possess he just has second |
| 3451s | alignment that ends it |
| 3454s | yep and bunny doesn't have the armor to |
| 3456s | be able to put up with this threat for |
| 3458s | long |
| 3458s | so that is going to be over next turn |
| 3462s | or at least all by the shouting |
| 3468s | gonna look at the board he's gonna |
| 3469s | realize he can scale to remove |
| 3473s | 10 damage from it and be alive on board |
| 3475s | and do it reluctantly |
| 3480s | yeah because he's actually dead on board |
| 3481s | yeah |
| 3485s | i find anything better than that |
| 3488s | anything better than dead on board i |
| 3490s | guess is quite a few things but yeah |
| 3495s | i mean with one mana there's just no |
| 3496s | other option |
| 3499s | i think he's trying to work out what is |
| 3500s | my out next turn is kazakhstan to draw a |
| 3503s | card somehow but yeah yeah i mean it's |
| 3506s | not even active right so he'd have to |
| 3508s | play amalgam and then kazakhstan which |
| 3509s | would spend all his mana because he'd |
| 3511s | only go up to two so bunny realizes it |
| 3513s | is just not working out in the long run |
| 3516s | and that means possessing takes yet |
| 3518s | another game with a lineup that's not |
| 3521s | even supposedly going to target the |
| 3523s | decks that bunny's played so far like it |
| 3525s | is pretty good against druid i'm gonna |
| 3526s | say but it's mainly meant to prey on |
| 3528s | warrior which bunny hasn't even |
| 3530s | attempted |
| 3530s | to queue yet |
| 3532s | and now jia it's down to the mech |
| 3535s | paladin |
| 3537s | told you we'd see this on the final day |
| 3539s | if possession loses three games in a row |
| 3540s | with it i'll never hear the end of it uh |
| 3543s | but yeah one would make paladins to make |
| 3545s | it through to the top eight |
| 3548s | yeah um |
| 3549s | the deck like you said on overall power |
| 3552s | level is not amazing just because it's |
| 3554s | so linear compared to a lot of the other |
| 3556s | decks in the meta that have flexibility |
| 3559s | on how they approach a game plan with |
| 3561s | mech paladin you just kind of vomit |
| 3563s | minions onto the board turn after turn |
| 3565s | you take efficient trades you try and |
| 3567s | make it awkward for your opponent to |
| 3569s | deal with them but overall you have very |
| 3570s | little agency in |
| 3573s | comeback mechanisms because all you have |
| 3575s | is samuro to actually come back from |
| 3577s | behind on board and it's very hard to |
| 3578s | actually get samurai to a relevant |
| 3580s | attack total it is dependent on either |
| 3582s | buffing it with prismatic jewel kit or |
| 3584s | seafloor savior which doesn't happen all |
| 3587s | too often in my experience so if bunny |
| 3590s | can just get in a position where he's |
| 3593s | dealt with the early board and is not |
| 3595s | dying yet and counter pushes with a |
| 3597s | couple naga giants if he is playing |
| 3599s | through it again then that is very much |
| 3600s | still a winnable matchup |
| 3602s | i mean they're all winnable but they're |
| 3604s | all unfavored again in my opinion you're |
| 3606s | saying that you've got to make the board |
| 3608s | hard to deal with but the the beauty of |
| 3610s | this paladin deck against the decks that |
| 3612s | people are bringing and here is the |
| 3613s | control warrior is it does that |
| 3615s | automatically because of the divine |
| 3616s | shields i've been on about this all |
| 3618s | tournaments so people are probably bored |
| 3619s | of me saying it but |
| 3621s | you don't have to concentrate too hard |
| 3623s | on making things awkward to deal with |
| 3625s | like two four two divine shields are |
| 3627s | just hard to deal with with the current |
| 3629s | way that control works i'm not saying |
| 3632s | they're good i'm not saying they're the |
| 3633s | great card i'm saying that they just |
| 3635s | match up really nicely against hunter |
| 3637s | and warrior and obviously you've just |
| 3639s | got that natural aggression against the |
| 3641s | druid as well but it is gonna be that |
| 3643s | warrior it's bunny's time to show us why |
| 3646s | this is the best deck in hearthstone |
| 3648s | indeed not gonna argue that this is very |
| 3651s | problematic for warrior to have to deal |
| 3653s | with all of those bubbles that they need |
| 3654s | to pop and there's no like risky skipper |
| 3657s | or easy whirlwind effects available to |
| 3660s | warrior here but one thing that warrior |
| 3662s | does have going for it that's not |
| 3663s | available to paladin is the ability to |
| 3665s | discover things that are not in the deck |
| 3667s | by a school teacher via nelly and doing |
| 3671s | very unexpected unexpected curves as |
| 3674s | well thanks to from the deaths and uh |
| 3676s | finley so there's a lot of creative ways |
| 3678s | to actually approach this which is |
| 3680s | really strange because i feel like in |
| 3682s | the past warrior was a deck that was a |
| 3684s | lot more predictable and doesn't have |
| 3686s | that much access to control but in the |
| 3689s | sense that face up against paladin i |
| 3691s | think it has a lot more in its toolkit |
| 3693s | even though the base deck doesn't match |
| 3695s | up so well against the shapes of minion |
| 3697s | that paladin is putting forward |
| 3699s | yeah nellie on four beats most things i |
| 3701s | think and that happens way too often to |
| 3704s | be fair but then that's one of the |
| 3706s | beauties of this matter most of the |
| 3707s | things aren't fair and if everything's |
| 3709s | unfair everything's fair |
| 3713s | uh |
| 3714s | no lorenda i don't think that's how the |
| 3716s | world works i think it is if everybody |
| 3719s | yeah that's not how the world works i |
| 3720s | agree with that but that's how |
| 3721s | hearthstone works if you're all doing |
| 3723s | unfair things then i guess it levels out |
| 3725s | i guess but there's different degrees of |
| 3727s | unfair you know |
| 3730s | like you could say that buffing |
| 3732s | sticks minions in your hand with one |
| 3733s | proc of prismatic jewel kit is unfair |
| 3736s | yeah that seems really strong but turn |
| 3737s | for nelly like you said seems even more |
| 3739s | unfair |
| 3741s | but then what about turn three guff how |
| 3744s | unfair is that |
| 3746s | running through your golf that's just |
| 3747s | normal though |
| 3749s | we can't normalize turn three |
| 3752s | don't give people ideas that's not fair |
| 3754s | at all |
| 3755s | but it's normal |
| 3757s | it really is all right here is that |
| 3759s | possessive list just a bunch of |
| 3762s | mechanical divine shieldy |
| 3765s | things that you can fetch with your |
| 3767s | other divine shieldy mechanical things |
| 3769s | and some radars that's it that's the |
| 3771s | deck description |
| 3774s | and i did talk about how warrior can |
| 3776s | discover a lot more things than paladin |
| 3778s | can which is true to a certain extent |
| 3780s | but there is still a little bit of a |
| 3781s | randomness aspect from mothership you |
| 3783s | know if a mother ship just drops a mecha |
| 3785s | shark out of nowhere that can be the |
| 3786s | last bits of damage needed to finish off |
| 3788s | the warrior because so often you get in |
| 3790s | a position where you're like oh i'm just |
| 3792s | three damage off lethal against warrior |
| 3795s | i've almost killed them but that one |
| 3797s | extra turn that they have alive is when |
| 3798s | they shield shatter your board and then |
| 3800s | play their noggling for frozen buckler |
| 3803s | and suddenly they're well out of range |
| 3804s | again and you're only reached by that |
| 3806s | point is in theory mr smite but lorinda |
| 3810s | look at possession's list yes cut the mr |
| 3813s | smite oh he's got the mr smite so i |
| 3815s | think they say something else yeah |
| 3816s | that's that's impossible how can you do |
| 3818s | 34 damage in one hit without mr smite in |
| 3821s | your deck uh it does make some sense and |
| 3823s | he's showing why he's going to go for |
| 3825s | the longer term strategy with the |
| 3826s | bannerman make sure his minions are big |
| 3828s | all along |
| 3829s | what i'm interested in right now though |
| 3831s | is what bunny is going to do with this |
| 3833s | hand |
| 3834s | because he could have the absolute |
| 3837s | crazy start with this combination in his |
| 3839s | hand from the depths and sir finley |
| 3841s | absolutely |
| 3842s | you coin out the from the depths and |
| 3844s | then you spin lee depending on the |
| 3846s | quality of those cards of course but on |
| 3849s | average just having three cards |
| 3850s | discounted by that much will be better |
| 3853s | than your starting hand but it's a |
| 3855s | respectable starting hand even without |
| 3857s | that combo here because school teacher |
| 3858s | is absolutely bonkers in warrior |
| 3861s | possessing hear a bit awkward that he |
| 3863s | picks up the jewel kit one turn later |
| 3865s | than he would have liked but they still |
| 3867s | think you play it down but he doesn't |
| 3869s | have |
| 3870s | weapon destruction does he |
| 3872s | oh he has one viper my bad |
| 3876s | yeah bunny has got tech cards nobody |
| 3880s | mentioned it |
| 3882s | yeah galore so many one-offs actually |
| 3885s | you could play reno in this tech and i |
| 3886s | wouldn't be surprised |
| 3888s | don't encourage them gear what are you |
| 3890s | doing |
| 3891s | yeah it's getting there you look down |
| 3892s | the decklist it's like 50 one-offs and |
| 3894s | 50 percent two offs |
| 3896s | i mean |
| 3897s | to be fair most of those one-offs are |
| 3898s | legendary so you don't have a choice but |
| 3900s | yeah one of amalgam one of viper and one |
| 3904s | of rancor and one of brawl |
| 3906s | and fortune flame |
| 3910s | looking at the combos you can see now uh |
| 3912s | possessing hovering over his own little |
| 3914s | combo of the |
| 3916s | the mooncatcher and the savior which is |
| 3918s | pretty nice start for him |
| 3923s | and |
| 3924s | it is a matter of how greedy he wants to |
| 3927s | get with the |
| 3929s | um timing of the sunken moon catchers |
| 3931s | here because he could buff them up even |
| 3933s | further than the plus two plus two |
| 3935s | they'll get from the savior |
| 3936s | by waiting a turn and playing bannermen |
| 3938s | first and apologize i forgot about |
| 3940s | bannermen being another way that you can |
| 3942s | buff samuro uh but it is |
| 3945s | very important to think about the turns |
| 3947s | you play your threats like if you wait |
| 3949s | one more turn to get extra stats |
| 3951s | suddenly it's just walking into a |
| 3953s | perfect brawl turn for bunnyhopper for |
| 3955s | example and you would much rather have |
| 3957s | played smaller minions early so they can |
| 3959s | get some damage |
| 3960s | rakora this early is certainly |
| 3962s | interesting |
| 3964s | yeah |
| 3966s | which means he doesn't want to put it to |
| 3968s | the top right |
| 3971s | i mean you could put it to the top play |
| 3974s | it and then spin the after |
| 3976s | joe okay any different ways of |
| 3979s | approaching it or you could put your |
| 3981s | other from the depths to the top and |
| 3982s | turn your akara into a one mana akara |
| 3985s | and then spindly and play rakara that |
| 3987s | turn as well i don't know |
| 3990s | how he goes about it and we have |
| 3992s | trivialized the paladin just a little |
| 3994s | bit by the way um |
| 3996s | you can very much just play blindly on |
| 3998s | curve with your eyes shut and get a |
| 3999s | pretty good result out of the deck in |
| 4001s | this meta but |
| 4002s | the judgment of when to buff your hand |
| 4004s | how big you want your your minions to |
| 4006s | get before you play them especially |
| 4008s | against control |
| 4009s | it is a continuous balancing process so |
| 4012s | you can't you don't just spam cards onto |
| 4014s | the board uh you are actually trying to |
| 4017s | work out okay well if these get cleared |
| 4019s | how big do i need them to be but also |
| 4022s | do i need them to be big if they're just |
| 4024s | hitting my opponent for four plus two |
| 4026s | plus one every turn |
| 4027s | true okay second from the depths was the |
| 4029s | pick for bunny here and that is a pretty |
| 4032s | good set of cards like the new dredge |
| 4034s | that he didn't see was the heavy plate |
| 4036s | and it still gets full value from the |
| 4037s | discounter from the depths shield |
| 4039s | shatter like it's sometimes a decent |
| 4041s | card to discount because you don't |
| 4043s | always have the insta armor again and |
| 4045s | it's already naturally costing four so |
| 4046s | you can make it cost zero with just four |
| 4048s | armor but the headline here is rekara |
| 4051s | for one mana available right now if he |
| 4053s | wants and he can hero power with it as |
| 4055s | well |
| 4057s | yeah |
| 4060s | okay he's gonna be around for a while |
| 4062s | with this amount of armor |
| 4064s | is this ever worth a shield chatter just |
| 4066s | so he can hero power the sunken i mean |
| 4068s | the ashar moon catcher |
| 4070s | maybe not yeah just going to get the |
| 4073s | honorable kill on the annoyatron |
| 4075s | instead and save the shield shatter for |
| 4078s | a rainier day of which there are many to |
| 4080s | come because this is paladin and he has |
| 4082s | already procked the first divine shield |
| 4085s | on the uh jewel kit |
| 4088s | yeah it may even be a case of waiting to |
| 4089s | see if you hit the second shield shutter |
| 4091s | so you can do a whole clear of bubbles |
| 4094s | and cards all in one go |
| 4096s | we saw that happening yesterday that was |
| 4097s | pretty powerful |
| 4099s | very expensive in terms of card usage of |
| 4101s | course but |
| 4103s | the possessive could have been holding |
| 4105s | on to bannermen with seafloor to go for |
| 4107s | it on the same turn because he can |
| 4110s | dredge |
| 4111s | the sunken moon catcher although |
| 4113s | bannerman says draw minion not draw |
| 4115s | cards so he won't necessarily get the |
| 4117s | topmost minion right is that how that |
| 4119s | works |
| 4120s | uh yes you don't know honestly i think |
| 4123s | that is how it works but i've lost track |
| 4125s | of some of the shuffling mechanics and |
| 4126s | what draws what but i do think it just |
| 4128s | gives you |
| 4130s | a minion |
| 4133s | he is going for the order where the |
| 4135s | bannerman first buffs the seafloor |
| 4137s | savior and then the sea floor is a |
| 4138s | five-five now because of all the |
| 4139s | prismatics as well and gets the uh |
| 4142s | sunken moon catcher that's going to be |
| 4145s | huge off the top next turn |
| 4147s | uh bunny previously shuffled back the |
| 4150s | coin from his opening from his starting |
| 4153s | hand |
| 4154s | uh which i think was deliberate even |
| 4156s | though it feels weird like oh you don't |
| 4157s | want to top that coin later technically |
| 4159s | like you just get an additional coin |
| 4161s | back if you don't use that coin so if |
| 4163s | there's like an additional card back |
| 4165s | sorry after you go for finley so |
| 4167s | [Music] |
| 4168s | yeah because you didn't need the one |
| 4170s | mana i think it made sense to still just |
| 4172s | get maximum amount of cards |
| 4176s | and now he's facing down a lot of damage |
| 4177s | needs to take some |
| 4179s | measures |
| 4180s | pretty immediately obviously he has that |
| 4182s | shield shatter so he's not in direct |
| 4183s | trouble that's his baseline play but he |
| 4186s | wants to do more than that so much more |
| 4190s | yeah if the benefit of going shield |
| 4192s | chatters he gets to land an uncontested |
| 4193s | school teacher on board and then he can |
| 4196s | have brand noggling later on but the |
| 4198s | downside of shield chatter and school |
| 4200s | teacher is that you don't get to |
| 4202s | milk your hero power extra honorable |
| 4205s | kills and every bit of value you can get |
| 4207s | is a huge deal against paladins so i |
| 4210s | think bunny is going to take it even |
| 4212s | slower here |
| 4213s | knows about the sunken moon catcher very |
| 4216s | likely to come off the top i don't think |
| 4218s | there's anything that possibly would |
| 4219s | have rather dredged there so he needs to |
| 4221s | maintain options to deal with huge |
| 4224s | divine shield minions |
| 4226s | yeah they'd be coming here they become |
| 4230s | seven |
| 4231s | so when i first read seafloor savior |
| 4233s | i read it as give it this meaning is |
| 4235s | attacking health not this minion gains |
| 4238s | the attack on health if that makes sense |
| 4239s | so i just thought why would i want to |
| 4240s | make my big cards into tutus that makes |
| 4243s | no sense to me oh |
| 4245s | i see what you mean i'm scanning through |
| 4247s | this list going what why why why am i |
| 4249s | forgetting tutus but then i've learned |
| 4252s | how to read and now i understand how it |
| 4253s | works |
| 4256s | it do give its attack but it doesn't |
| 4258s | replace |
| 4259s | the overhaul |
| 4260s | exactly |
| 4263s | possession here super disciplined into |
| 4265s | uh in playing a round brawl here doesn't |
| 4268s | bother with hero power doesn't bother |
| 4269s | with playing another moon catcher knows |
| 4272s | that this board state is already plenty |
| 4274s | awkward for bunny hopper to deal with |
| 4276s | again the shields are a big deal like |
| 4278s | you said and that could be another |
| 4280s | reason why bunny had |
| 4282s | placed such emphasis on playing rakhara |
| 4283s | early just to get that hero power to |
| 4285s | work as an inefficient mage ping sort of |
| 4289s | oh |
| 4291s | target 50 51 by possessing here so |
| 4295s | that's awkward for bunny |
| 4298s | gonna have to attack this |
| 4300s | he is i mean |
| 4301s | nine's not going to be too devastating |
| 4304s | but any further damage will and i was |
| 4306s | about to say |
| 4308s | that the one thing that was going okay |
| 4310s | for bunny hopper is that possessed he's |
| 4311s | drawn none of his card draw none of the |
| 4313s | gorilla bots i think one amalgam or zero |
| 4316s | amalgams and no radar detectors but |
| 4318s | here's the detector and if it hits even |
| 4321s | half decently bunny's gonna be in a lot |
| 4323s | of trouble now |
| 4327s | one |
| 4329s | just the one so all his card drops |
| 4331s | awesome as well yeah |
| 4332s | okay so his bottom i mean this is |
| 4335s | another reason for potentially cutting |
| 4336s | smite right it's not a mech so it it's |
| 4338s | one less card that messes with your |
| 4340s | radar but that means that possesses |
| 4342s | bottom four are probably like carryall |
| 4345s | samuro |
| 4349s | yeah the radar detector |
| 4351s | and the other jewel kit it's not that |
| 4352s | many cars that it could be pretty |
| 4354s | unfortunate but he's still got a very |
| 4356s | awkward board state for bunny to deal |
| 4358s | with but with that forged in flame that |
| 4360s | bunny was honestly kind of waiting for |
| 4363s | um |
| 4364s | now there's so many resources we saw |
| 4366s | bunny a couple turns ago deliberately |
| 4367s | shield slammed a minion that he could |
| 4369s | have just swung his weapon into but i |
| 4371s | think he was particularly waiting to get |
| 4373s | fortune flame |
| 4374s | yeah look how he sat forward in his |
| 4376s | chair when he saw that radar detector go |
| 4378s | for one because he knows like we've |
| 4379s | described that means that some of the |
| 4381s | important stuff is lurking at the bottom |
| 4383s | of the depths of possessive's deck right |
| 4387s | cannot stress enough how unfortunate |
| 4389s | that was for possessing like he even |
| 4391s | deliberately ordered it to get at least |
| 4394s | the sunken moon catcher back like he |
| 4395s | played two mechs and then drew saying |
| 4397s | that no this is not an order lull it's |
| 4399s | not a draw first thing it's about |
| 4401s | shuffling the dredge minion to the |
| 4403s | bottom before you draw it back up |
| 4405s | and in two turns time |
| 4408s | bunny hopper has bran mutinous |
| 4411s | he does i could empty out a hand if he |
| 4414s | can hang on that long with the rest of |
| 4416s | his cards |
| 4417s | he also has brand school teacher |
| 4419s | nuggling right now if he wants |
| 4423s | and that's the choice |
| 4425s | looks like it yeah the rancor is not |
| 4427s | particularly effective on this board |
| 4430s | state so let's see what the school |
| 4431s | teacher offers |
| 4433s | dash |
| 4434s | nice |
| 4437s | another bash i mean he can like nagaling |
| 4440s | one of the five threes and that's just |
| 4441s | double bash on it doesn't have the mana |
| 4443s | to play second nagalang but decent still |
| 4446s | he could also think about fortune flame |
| 4448s | on the second one but i think he took |
| 4449s | double bash |
| 4455s | nick's armor killer five three divine |
| 4457s | shield seems decent yeah |
| 4460s | huge turn okay |
| 4462s | pretty good top deck for possession he |
| 4464s | at least can recoup some of the draw |
| 4466s | that he lost from the radar by having an |
| 4469s | extra leviathan which he discovered very |
| 4471s | early on |
| 4474s | is it dredge first or draw first larinda |
| 4477s | oh no don't do this |
| 4479s | um it should be dredged first nearly |
| 4481s | always to be fair |
| 4483s | i think when you're desperate desperate |
| 4485s | you can draw first and hope you hit one |
| 4487s | of our good cards but yeah wait i'm |
| 4490s | confused if this amalgam of the deep was |
| 4492s | at the bottom shouldn't it have been |
| 4494s | drawn by the radar detector i think it |
| 4497s | should but |
| 4498s | i'm really confused too |
| 4503s | oh no radar detector shuffles |
| 4505s | it's remembered oh it does okay |
| 4509s | yeah it actually says oh yeah you |
| 4510s | shuffle after oh okay that's my bad yeah |
| 4513s | i just didn't know that |
| 4515s | i knew i'd have forgot so when we talk |
| 4517s | about what the bottom of his deck was |
| 4518s | yeah i should have known as well that |
| 4519s | way detective shuffles |
| 4524s | okay |
| 4525s | rancor |
| 4528s | can be decent if this is another bash |
| 4530s | snuggling like |
| 4532s | you could |
| 4533s | hero power the two three rancor |
| 4537s | and then bash the five three you still |
| 4539s | have a leviathan left so maybe there's |
| 4541s | something better that bunny's already |
| 4542s | seen |
| 4548s | pick me maybe not |
| 4551s | just outriders acts at the end and |
| 4552s | accept that you're leaving a leviathan |
| 4554s | that's not the end of the world as long |
| 4555s | as you kill the appendage at least |
| 4557s | they're not drawing a card only judging |
| 4559s | yeah he is on 50 health so although he |
| 4562s | can't afford to lose the board because |
| 4564s | that will go really quickly he can |
| 4566s | afford to sort of half lose the board |
| 4569s | such an interesting pick from the |
| 4572s | amalgam though like another school |
| 4573s | teacher is never awful but queen azshara |
| 4576s | could give him |
| 4577s | you know even |
| 4578s | more tools i'm trying to think is there |
| 4581s | anything you'd really like to copy with |
| 4582s | the ring maybe not at this point so he |
| 4585s | takes cool teacher at the end |
| 4591s | that's a whiff but there is just another |
| 4592s | leviathan in hand if he wants it |
| 4596s | yeah sign me up for that |
| 4598s | he is hanging on in there just a touch |
| 4600s | though possessing at this point |
| 4604s | the nixia a mutant is ready to come down |
| 4607s | and bunny down to only 11 cards in deck |
| 4609s | which |
| 4610s | is obviously a big deal as well because |
| 4612s | getting towards that kazakhstan himself |
| 4614s | which would turn the game around |
| 4617s | jesse can dredge this radar detector |
| 4621s | to the top and then play the new kaz |
| 4623s | leviathan and use the appendage to draw |
| 4625s | the radar detector and immediately play |
| 4627s | it and this time for sure it draws more |
| 4630s | than one right |
| 4633s | you would hope so |
| 4635s | you would hope so |
| 4637s | that is by the way white is is made to |
| 4639s | shuffle your deck if you've got them |
| 4640s | both in your hand it's a bit unfair if |
| 4642s | you play the first one it draws no cards |
| 4643s | then you've got another one in your hand |
| 4645s | it's like oh yeah that's why oh unfair |
| 4647s | though |
| 4648s | more or less than turn three gough |
| 4650s | that's the standard |
| 4651s | nothing is more unfair than term figure |
| 4654s | wow he took click clocker okay |
| 4656s | okay so he wanted to |
| 4659s | take click clocker play it now and then |
| 4661s | use the second dredge to put the radar |
| 4663s | detector at the top because he was not |
| 4664s | intending to play it this turn anyway |
| 4667s | because he has seen so much aoe already |
| 4669s | from bunny he just wanted to go as wide |
| 4670s | as possible saw the one of rancor i |
| 4672s | think this makes a lot of sense and then |
| 4674s | he has the guaranteed refill just in |
| 4676s | case there's some shenanigans with extra |
| 4678s | school teacher uh coming off |
| 4680s | the discover |
| 4682s | but again bunny has the answer and i |
| 4684s | want to correct myself because turned |
| 4686s | two guff is more unfair than to three |
| 4689s | girlfriends that does happen very |
| 4690s | occasionally |
| 4694s | yeah good point |
| 4695s | and next turn it possess he doesn't go |
| 4698s | all in although i think radar detector |
| 4699s | might be on top yes it is and |
| 4702s | yeah mutants would be going to do some |
| 4704s | work |
| 4707s | this is an absolutely insane onixia from |
| 4709s | bunny every time i see it it just |
| 4711s | continues to shock me how much removal |
| 4714s | you have available to you |
| 4716s | it's |
| 4718s | uh 20 points of damage and you can |
| 4720s | distribute it very very |
| 4723s | much at your own pace |
| 4729s | sure |
| 4731s | so you dredge a nutmeg here right |
| 4733s | because you want it away from the bottom |
| 4735s | so radar gets you as many drops as |
| 4737s | possible yes |
| 4739s | three |
| 4741s | no achievement stopped it |
| 4743s | it was never going to be an achievement |
| 4744s | there was a samurai at the bottom |
| 4748s | well we were both correct |
| 4750s | uh bubble bop but not really as |
| 4753s | terrifying board anymore |
| 4755s | it's if bunny can just deal with the big |
| 4757s | thing each turn that huge armor total is |
| 4759s | going to keep him protected |
| 4761s | and he's showing us what he's made of in |
| 4763s | this match he's been talking up this |
| 4764s | warrior and he has shown it right from |
| 4766s | the start |
| 4768s | by getting finley and from the depths |
| 4769s | but even so |
| 4772s | still not over though that nine nine is |
| 4774s | a huge problem here he has the anexia |
| 4777s | and drake to get rid of it |
| 4780s | and |
| 4780s | can also just go for like hero power a |
| 4784s | shield off of the automaton trade down |
| 4786s | with the onyxia and then what did you do |
| 4788s | with your last format school teacher so |
| 4790s | just start with the discover effect |
| 4793s | i can change the order if you know |
| 4794s | you're playing it anyway |
| 4796s | i split garrison is this the answer to |
| 4799s | divine shield it really is right |
| 4802s | i just don't feel like it's necessary |
| 4804s | because the stern money can clear all |
| 4806s | the threatening minions and then yeah |
| 4808s | there'll just be a couple two or one |
| 4809s | attack minions with divine shield no big |
| 4811s | deal |
| 4812s | yeah the shield slam looks really good |
| 4814s | here as well just kill a nine nine yep |
| 4822s | hey |
| 4823s | fine |
| 4829s | oh he did take the garrison |
| 4831s | okay but that's at the end of the turn |
| 4833s | so the automaton gets delivered one more |
| 4834s | turn which is a bit scary |
| 4838s | that's up his outright his axes though |
| 4839s | maybe so he's going to never have a |
| 4841s | shield to worry about he can happily |
| 4843s | play the axe happily uses hero power to |
| 4845s | gain more armor draw cards gain armor |
| 4848s | draw cards game armor not have to worry |
| 4850s | about spending mana to pop the shield so |
| 4852s | i imagine that was why he went that way |
| 4854s | although the other options did look |
| 4855s | tempting |
| 4858s | quickly gassing out here so i guess he's |
| 4860s | just meant to take the greediest option |
| 4862s | every turn from his discovers but which |
| 4864s | is greedier moon catcher or sneeds |
| 4866s | because he can immediately dredge |
| 4869s | the sunken because he has seafloor |
| 4871s | savior but again there's still the ice |
| 4873s | blood in place so i do like the pick up |
| 4875s | the sneeds and here you probably take |
| 4877s | mothership you're out of radar detectors |
| 4879s | so the stonehearth doesn't even draw |
| 4881s | anything |
| 4883s | yeah and i think this needs was almost |
| 4884s | essential there because he's just on the |
| 4887s | edge despite this wide board of losing |
| 4889s | the board yeah he's being forced to |
| 4890s | trade because |
| 4892s | his stuff just isn't very big right now |
| 4893s | he needs something to deal with not the |
| 4895s | big stuff on board right now but the big |
| 4897s | stuff that's going to be turning up next |
| 4899s | turn |
| 4901s | the possessive would look like a bit of |
| 4903s | a weird trader like he could have gone |
| 4905s | the automaton into the four attack |
| 4906s | minion and then the other minions into |
| 4908s | the five attack minion and had the same |
| 4910s | board state except two health on his |
| 4912s | automaton but i think he was just trying |
| 4913s | to leave it at one deliberately to not |
| 4915s | give bunny the honorable kill on it |
| 4918s | uh |
| 4918s | anyway |
| 4920s | that's a nelly |
| 4921s | these are good minions i think bunny has |
| 4923s | truly turned the corner here |
| 4925s | yeah |
| 4926s | uh he's got plenty of card draw in there |
| 4928s | if he wanted it i imagine that's what he |
| 4929s | would have gone for |
| 4931s | um not the usual damage output but he |
| 4933s | doesn't need that he just needs to keep |
| 4935s | control of this board for |
| 4938s | one or two more turns i would say |
| 4940s | and then he's absolutely in the clear |
| 4942s | yeah possess he doesn't even care about |
| 4943s | one or two turns he gives it up bunny |
| 4945s | shows us what he can do with warrior um |
| 4948s | despite being up against the best deck |
| 4950s | in the tournament |
| 4951s | and gets it down to two games to one now |
| 4954s | in favor possessing |
| 4956s | that stuck in the tournament |
| 4958s | so sorry you put it that way because you |
| 4960s | said bunny was saying warrior's the best |
| 4962s | deck in the tournament and you're saying |
| 4964s | paladin is the best tech in the |
| 4965s | tournament |
| 4967s | are you gonna believe guys bunny hopper |
| 4970s | or me |
| 4971s | two times european |
| 4974s | um two times european champion i believe |
| 4976s | i'm losing it |
| 4977s | um or a person who talks about things |
| 4980s | and can't remember how many times |
| 4981s | european champion someone is no |
| 4984s | pick one pick a side voice is yours |
| 4990s | oh yeah bunny hopper two one down but |
| 4992s | getting the tough one out of the way the |
| 4994s | next two aren't easy possess he's still |
| 4996s | in the driving seat but |
| 4998s | it's a lot lot harder now than it was |
| 4999s | going to be |
| 5001s | definitely so i mean |
| 5003s | like you said the lineup was built by |
| 5005s | possessing to prey on warrior mech |
| 5008s | paladin has been doing its job so far |
| 5010s | for possessing but it's lost one of its |
| 5012s | good matchups here like according to you |
| 5015s | lorenda it is still favored against |
| 5017s | druid and quest hunter but i really |
| 5020s | don't think so so i'm actually really |
| 5022s | worried for possessing here |
| 5025s | yeah i mean that part of me isn't joking |
| 5026s | when i say that by the way some of some |
| 5028s | of the paladin jokes obviously |
| 5029s | tongue-in-cheek but i do genuinely |
| 5031s | believe it is slightly favored in both |
| 5032s | those two matchups so that's an actual |
| 5034s | argument we can have rather than the |
| 5036s | pretending one |
| 5037s | um the hunter |
| 5039s | which one do you think's easier for |
| 5042s | the for bunny hopper just out of |
| 5044s | interest |
| 5046s | um that's a close one i would |
| 5048s | argue that both of these are very doable |
| 5050s | but close matchups still like you have |
| 5053s | very real win conditions against paladin |
| 5056s | which is as hunter you know playing |
| 5058s | candleshot is a huge one to pick off |
| 5060s | shields without having to use um your |
| 5063s | spells and bunnyhopper does have that so |
| 5065s | i think just that one inclusion is such |
| 5067s | a big deal to help the match up and then |
| 5069s | druid though you have much more of a |
| 5070s | macro game plan of beating paladin which |
| 5072s | is survive survive survive get an early |
| 5075s | scale and then just never let them have |
| 5077s | the board because you've played giants |
| 5078s | first and you can also just get to |
| 5080s | onyxia and if the warrior match up a |
| 5083s | while ago was any suggestion it is very |
| 5086s | much a similar win condition for druid |
| 5088s | where after you play that it's so hard |
| 5090s | for paladin to come back on board so i |
| 5092s | would say in theory druid would have an |
| 5095s | easier time but i also think hunter has |
| 5097s | a very real chance |
| 5099s | and bunny's build of the druid we talked |
| 5101s | about it earlier does have all of the |
| 5103s | early removal cards with the double |
| 5105s | druid of the reef double kelp keeper |
| 5107s | that'll make a a substantial difference |
| 5109s | in the matchup of course as well because |
| 5112s | like you say survive survive survivor he |
| 5113s | keeps those early mecs off the board or |
| 5115s | keeps him to a minimum then he's going |
| 5116s | to have the chance to get to the scale |
| 5118s | with a decent health total intact and |
| 5120s | then we saw how you swing it around when |
| 5122s | you start playing big stuff of any sort |
| 5124s | so that will be his plan in that one uh |
| 5126s | the hunter i'm going to keep banging |
| 5128s | this drum i do think that the paladin is |
| 5130s | decent favorite against hunter although |
| 5132s | the official stats |
| 5133s | it's 51 |
| 5135s | official stats but the the replay site |
| 5137s | stats it's 51 |
| 5139s | oh my god that opening hand for bunny |
| 5142s | hello |
| 5144s | all right yeah |
| 5146s | looking good for for team gia |
| 5149s | possessie doesn't even want to bother |
| 5151s | keeping click clacker it's like not good |
| 5154s | enough he says even though he's on the |
| 5155s | play and that's the only one drop |
| 5158s | minion aside from the righteous |
| 5160s | protectors that he's running he threw |
| 5161s | away both of the one drop minions he |
| 5163s | says he wants jewel kit |
| 5166s | yeah and radar detectors and stuff |
| 5168s | because |
| 5170s | against druid you are in a hobby to make |
| 5172s | a board but you're in a hurry to make a |
| 5173s | big board if you can make a couple of |
| 5175s | good threes or three into a four that's |
| 5177s | a much more dangerous than just messing |
| 5179s | around with with |
| 5181s | with clickers and clockers right so |
| 5187s | all right |
| 5188s | no surprise to see the nourish tossed by |
| 5191s | bunny because he is just gonna get it |
| 5192s | back from jerry or from the mulligan |
| 5195s | um but he ends up with a much better |
| 5197s | hand of his own you said he was looking |
| 5199s | for radar detectors but even better is |
| 5201s | stonehearth vindicator because it's sort |
| 5203s | of a two-for-one the radar with a body |
| 5206s | attached however possession doesn't |
| 5207s | necessarily have a turn two if he gets a |
| 5210s | for example a neuetron off the top that |
| 5212s | would make the hand perfect because now |
| 5214s | he has a divine shield minion to play |
| 5217s | and start getting the activations from |
| 5219s | the jewel kit but at the moment it is |
| 5221s | the calm before the storm |
| 5225s | there's a calm before the storm on the |
| 5227s | other side as well |
| 5235s | this is a coin jerry into moonlit |
| 5237s | okay |
| 5239s | looks like it's gotta be scrappy if you |
| 5241s | think about it bunny's curve didn't |
| 5243s | really necessitate the coin because if |
| 5245s | he had just waited turn two jerry turned |
| 5247s | through wild growth he can play nourish |
| 5249s | on turn four anyway so he's just saying |
| 5251s | coin now get the minion on board and |
| 5254s | potentially allow him to challenge |
| 5255s | something possessed he plays for example |
| 5257s | if this were annoyetron bunny could kill |
| 5259s | it with hero power and trade um now it |
| 5262s | might just be hero power on the recruit |
| 5264s | because i don't think he really needs |
| 5266s | anything immediately from the moonlight |
| 5267s | guidance but he could also just play it |
| 5269s | and say if this is scale of enyxia you |
| 5271s | can play it straight after the nourish |
| 5273s | turn and not have to worry about |
| 5274s | spending mana on moonlit |
| 5276s | possessi choosing to hero power over |
| 5278s | radar detector because he has that |
| 5280s | vindicator next turn and he has a 2-1 |
| 5282s | that needs dealing with so |
| 5285s | interesting how that one worked out |
| 5287s | obviously the correct play though |
| 5292s | interesting timing on aquatic form here |
| 5293s | only two mana maybe bunny was looking |
| 5295s | for second kelp keeper because that |
| 5297s | would be a pretty solid turn as well |
| 5299s | play double kelp keeper and then you |
| 5301s | follow up with wild growth and then if |
| 5303s | you play nourish after they both wake up |
| 5305s | and you can even challenge a board from |
| 5307s | possessive so in the end |
| 5309s | probably doesn't hit what he was looking |
| 5311s | for but just plays the kel keeper over |
| 5313s | moonlit which i agree with it's all |
| 5315s | about surviving here so get your tempo |
| 5317s | pre-loaded |
| 5319s | yep and the exact opposite from |
| 5321s | possessing um to what you just said |
| 5323s | obviously he's got to get the tempo away |
| 5324s | it's the same he's got to get his tempo |
| 5326s | preloaded to stop bunnies pre-loaded |
| 5327s | tempo not messing around with indicators |
| 5330s | getting the 4-2 on the board and now |
| 5332s | getting to the point where he can start |
| 5334s | to build a massive board over the next |
| 5336s | couple of turns |
| 5339s | and then we'll see if scale of a nixia |
| 5341s | can cope with it on turn seven mana |
| 5343s | whatever term that is for druid these |
| 5345s | days |
| 5346s | it's probably still doable but it's very |
| 5348s | deliberate from possessive right to play |
| 5350s | the moon catcher first and then |
| 5351s | stonehearth because he knows he's |
| 5353s | shuffled the sunken to the bottom so the |
| 5355s | radar can absolutely pull it back up and |
| 5358s | he gets a decent amount of minions from |
| 5359s | this radar and most importantly perhaps |
| 5362s | has two divine shield minions on board |
| 5364s | so if bunny wants to clear or even poke |
| 5367s | some of these away those sunken moon |
| 5369s | catchers are getting so many more stats |
| 5372s | yeah that's gonna be a problem |
| 5380s | allows him to |
| 5382s | play scale next turn or rampant growth i |
| 5385s | should say |
| 5387s | i was having a look at why |
| 5389s | you know what what the other choices |
| 5390s | might be there it just seemed fairly |
| 5391s | straightforward but |
| 5393s | always worth looking because you missed |
| 5394s | something |
| 5395s | yeah |
| 5396s | probably deliberating between hero power |
| 5399s | and moonlit here but it's actually quite |
| 5401s | awkward for bunny that he wakes up his |
| 5404s | kelp keeper against specifically the |
| 5406s | righteous on board because |
| 5408s | like it allows possession to get two |
| 5410s | procs of the divine shield whereas if |
| 5412s | there were no minion bunny could even |
| 5414s | delay the jewel kit for a little bit |
| 5416s | which may or may not work out on your |
| 5418s | favor depending on how much possess he |
| 5420s | wants to commit to the board before the |
| 5422s | jewel kit ever goes off |
| 5427s | yeah and |
| 5429s | plenty of damage coming in for |
| 5431s | possessive he now has to choose |
| 5434s | what he wants to do this turn obviously |
| 5435s | that's obviously his turn that's how |
| 5437s | this turn works um but how he wants to |
| 5440s | make this board bigger immediately it |
| 5442s | looks pretty straightforward because of |
| 5443s | the way the mana works out |
| 5446s | or think |
| 5448s | he could trade his divine shield to buff |
| 5449s | everything even further but the key |
| 5451s | thing to note is that the moon catcher |
| 5453s | is currently at three hp and if you buff |
| 5456s | it to four it works the same into scale |
| 5458s | it takes three whelps either way to deal |
| 5460s | with that so i wonder if possesses |
| 5462s | factoring in health more than attack as |
| 5465s | a priority here because he just needs |
| 5467s | the board to be sustainable rather than |
| 5470s | having the maximum amount of attack |
| 5476s | yeah if he trades the other way just |
| 5477s | puts the three one in there and plays a |
| 5479s | lot of stuff |
| 5480s | to keep up the maximum number of shields |
| 5483s | but yeah this is the way that makes the |
| 5485s | most sense he did have a look this is |
| 5487s | one of the wrinkles of this deck there's |
| 5489s | so many |
| 5490s | break points to worry about |
| 5494s | so even though |
| 5495s | giving up the shield here doesn't make |
| 5497s | this board any more resilient against |
| 5500s | scale what he has done is buff the |
| 5502s | seafloor savior before playing it which |
| 5504s | means that whatever he's dredged gets an |
| 5506s | extra plus one plus one as well from the |
| 5508s | sea floor and it's still pretty tough |
| 5511s | for bunny to scale this because |
| 5514s | he can get rid of the two six fours and |
| 5515s | the four two but he's still leaving |
| 5517s | seven attack on board |
| 5519s | it did also put 23 on board for those |
| 5521s | amazing worlds that could possibly |
| 5523s | happen where your opponent doesn't have |
| 5525s | scale immediately |
| 5527s | true |
| 5528s | he did set up lethal |
| 5532s | that is theoretically possible you know |
| 5534s | that your opponent doesn't have a scale |
| 5537s | it is possible and your opponent is also |
| 5539s | not running uh spammy in this instance |
| 5544s | oh okay so chooses to leave up the six |
| 5546s | four in favor of removing two more |
| 5548s | minions |
| 5549s | i think this makes sense |
| 5551s | technically leaving the least amount of |
| 5552s | damage on yes |
| 5554s | yep go for that survival you keep you |
| 5556s | mentioned at the start and i keep |
| 5558s | talking about but yeah now it's just a |
| 5559s | reload of big things this is where it |
| 5561s | gets tackled |
| 5562s | a huge click clocker oh my goodness up |
| 5565s | to five five and a huge seafloor savior |
| 5569s | yeah things just get large at this point |
| 5571s | and this is one of the problems um |
| 5574s | for the druid it's not just the |
| 5575s | stabilization it's what happens next |
| 5577s | okay buddy hasn't quite stabilized |
| 5579s | anyway but the paladin has that little |
| 5581s | bit of fight left in it after the |
| 5584s | initial stabilization because the things |
| 5586s | are so big they can actually compete |
| 5587s | with the giants on the other side |
| 5589s | yeah this is all thanks to the jewel kit |
| 5592s | here just so many extra stats making it |
| 5594s | such that the scale doesn't clear |
| 5595s | everything and the last charge on the |
| 5597s | jewel could even further buffing what's |
| 5599s | left in the hand and the compounding |
| 5601s | effect of the seafloor saviors just |
| 5603s | makes it so that even the tiny one drops |
| 5606s | from possessing are big threats to bunny |
| 5608s | hopper here so bunny |
| 5610s | pretty much needs scale again and he has |
| 5612s | moonlit to try and fish for it but if he |
| 5615s | misses he is just kind of dead because |
| 5618s | if you moonlit and miss you cannot play |
| 5620s | miracle growth anymore the nerf is huge |
| 5623s | yeah and if he hits even then how does |
| 5626s | he fight back against the next line he |
| 5628s | knows there's a huge thing on top |
| 5629s | somewhere from the savior |
| 5633s | this is on earthen scale |
| 5635s | turn the time run low |
| 5638s | yeah |
| 5639s | okay |
| 5641s | not dead on board but |
| 5643s | there's a mother ship so |
| 5645s | dead after the trades |
| 5648s | huge mothership and possess he's going |
| 5650s | to take this one down with the mech |
| 5652s | paladin gear he moves into the top eight |
| 5656s | uh bunny hopper showed us what he could |
| 5657s | do with the warrior but could not face |
| 5660s | up against a lineup that just was |
| 5662s | designed to take on exactly this lineup |
| 5665s | possessing top eights |
| 5668s | wow our world champion making it through |
| 5671s | with a deep run in another masters tour |
| 5674s | and that is a heartbreaker for bunny |
| 5676s | hopper having such a good run throughout |
| 5678s | the swiss but he ran up into the counter |
| 5680s | lineup even though he did manage to get |
| 5682s | a win with the deck that seemed like it |
| 5684s | was being most heavily countered bunny i |
| 5686s | think still proved that warrior is a |
| 5688s | duck to be reckoned with even if you try |
| 5690s | and beat up on it with these greedy uh |
| 5692s | sort of mid-range decks from possessive |
| 5695s | uh but possessing here i think |
| 5696s | absolutely knew the best way to pilot |
| 5698s | this matchup he really did not bother |
| 5701s | with keeping one drops here he |
| 5703s | emphasized the importance of jewel kit |
| 5705s | and got rewarded once he found it |
| 5708s | yep absolutely um just kept big stuff |
| 5711s | going all the time the scale couldn't |
| 5713s | even deal with it leaves a six-four |
| 5715s | round like you say and then |
| 5716s | yeah just the next turn it is all over |
| 5719s | and also all over is our top 16. uh this |
| 5723s | was the last one to finish and gear i'm |
| 5726s | just gonna look at one match there with |
| 5728s | the greatest of respect to all the other |
| 5730s | players look at that top left-hand side |
| 5734s | yeah two naga mage enthusiasts is all i |
| 5736s | see |
| 5738s | yeah one of them's gonna lose |
| 5740s | [Laughter] |
| 5745s | however you want to say his name i |
| 5746s | changed it every time taking on orange |
| 5749s | in that very first of the quarterfinals |
| 5752s | uh plenty to talk about in that one |
| 5754s | sabito versus msbc later on |
| 5757s | um we're gonna have uh letter versus |
| 5760s | face-off and possessi taking on |
| 5762s | cursed there's a name we've not heard |
| 5764s | for a few years an absolutely stacked |
| 5767s | top eight which is what happens when you |
| 5769s | have a top stacked top 16 gear who's |
| 5771s | going to win it audrey i'm going to ask |
| 5772s | you for a prediction actually no i'm not |
| 5775s | don't do that |
| 5777s | wait i won predictions last season what |
| 5779s | are you talking about |
| 5780s | don't push it don't push it all right |
| 5783s | all right i mean we will give our |
| 5784s | predictions a little bit later anyway so |
| 5786s | i won't spoil but i did want to shout |
| 5788s | out a couple of the names there um |
| 5790s | levick not making it to top eight i'm a |
| 5792s | bit sad to see because i feel like he's |
| 5794s | just been such a powerhouse in swiss in |
| 5796s | particular but also we have msbc flying |
| 5799s | the flag for cn here we did talk about |
| 5801s | how the representation of chinese |
| 5803s | players in our top 16s has dropped off a |
| 5805s | little bit compared to previous years |
| 5807s | but the chinese players do have a cap at |
| 5810s | 40 i think now at uh the masters tours |
| 5813s | thanks beenage for pointing that out so |
| 5814s | they still take these and there is still |
| 5816s | a chance for yet another chinese master |
| 5818s | store winner but personally they're into |
| 5821s | all bias included i'm still hoping this |
| 5823s | is the one that we got an apac winner |
| 5826s | yeah well i may have to join you in that |
| 5829s | um hope dear because i don't think |
| 5831s | there's anybody left from the americas |
| 5833s | region and i mean i i sort of been in |
| 5837s | the european practice group quite a bit |
| 5838s | over the |
| 5839s | the last week or so so obviously i'm |
| 5841s | biased in that regard so i'll cheer |
| 5843s | against them as well while i'm on camera |
| 5845s | and just cheer for a pack along with you |
| 5847s | how's that |
| 5848s | perfect i needed someone on my side when |
| 5850s | derek isn't here and he's only on my |
| 5852s | side half the time |
| 5853s | yeah |
| 5854s | wrong hull the right half right when you |
| 5856s | don't need the support when it's going |
| 5858s | well that's when david joined him |
| 5860s | exactly |
| 5862s | anyway i do believe that is time for us |
| 5864s | to wrap up on the top 16 i don't think |
| 5866s | we're going to show you any more action |
| 5868s | because we've shown you the results now |
| 5869s | so what's the point we're going to take |
| 5871s | a short break and we'll get straight |
| 5872s | into that juicy looking quarter final |
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| 6071s | welcome back everybody to master's talk |
| 6073s | voice the sunken city and it's the |
| 6076s | quarter finals and joining me for this |
| 6078s | one is oh wait it's still gear and we're |
| 6081s | going to have this orange versus |
| 6083s | match and it's |
| 6085s | almost a card for card mirrors yeah |
| 6088s | almost they do have exactly the same |
| 6090s | archetypes if you want to call ramp |
| 6093s | druid with or without kazakhstan the |
| 6095s | same archetype because orange has done |
| 6097s | something a little bit off the wall |
| 6098s | where his druid does have of course goff |
| 6101s | and the ramp package but is not running |
| 6103s | because akasan instead his win condition |
| 6105s | is just trying to get these big naga |
| 6107s | giants online early and get the |
| 6109s | battlegrounds battle master which he has |
| 6111s | one copy of to deal lethal it is a much |
| 6114s | more streamlined version of the deck and |
| 6116s | honestly i'm a big fan it just feels |
| 6118s | like for druid in particular it takes so |
| 6121s | long before we can see kazakhstan be |
| 6123s | playable |
| 6124s | yeah we've hardly seen a kazakhstan now |
| 6127s | you mentioned it in the whole tournament |
| 6128s | at least when i've been casting i don't |
| 6129s | remember seeing one actually |
| 6131s | played and mata yet in the tour we've |
| 6134s | talked about it being outs a few times |
| 6136s | obviously if we see a druid versus a |
| 6138s | warrior then that's a thing that might |
| 6140s | come up on either side of the board but |
| 6143s | something that just hasn't turned up in |
| 6144s | this tournament so it might be a really |
| 6146s | good call from orange here it'd be but |
| 6149s | for both these players leonardo you were |
| 6151s | just talking about how they're in the |
| 6153s | same practice group together fury hunter |
| 6155s | also in the mix where they almost landed |
| 6157s | on exactly the same lineup fury just |
| 6159s | changing out a deck for silence priest |
| 6161s | and he's the one that ended up doing the |
| 6163s | worst of them even though worst for this |
| 6165s | group is still like a 6-2 score very |
| 6168s | very impressive stuff |
| 6169s | you did tweet out that he missed a round |
| 6171s | because he overslept |
| 6173s | okay and he still went six and two |
| 6176s | so he did okay |
| 6177s | yeah just gave the field a bit of a |
| 6179s | chance |
| 6180s | to flex |
| 6182s | but |
| 6183s | on the quest hunter |
| 6185s | right for sorry um |
| 6187s | and orange like it's gotta be a bit |
| 6189s | bittersweet right because they have |
| 6191s | spent so much time prepping together i'm |
| 6192s | sure either of them would be happy to |
| 6194s | see their friend making it through all |
| 6195s | the way but the way the bracket has |
| 6198s | ended up they have to face each other |
| 6200s | and see which of the mirror lineup will |
| 6202s | reign supreme just a couple of tough |
| 6204s | choices different here and there like |
| 6206s | you were saying lorenda |
| 6207s | yep habagabu the master of this mage |
| 6210s | deck when it comes up i'm just going to |
| 6212s | ignore the screen for a minute that says |
| 6213s | hunter and rage for a moment the purse |
| 6216s | has really kept this deck popular right |
| 6218s | from day one um the absolute best in |
| 6221s | orange |
| 6222s | i'm gonna sell the orange story um |
| 6224s | started off this masters tour season in |
| 6227s | masters tour one master's tour and nyx |
| 6229s | years later oh and three on day one not |
| 6232s | only owen three but hated his lineup |
| 6235s | and he hung on in there and picked up |
| 6236s | four points went four and four |
| 6239s | and the win that got him from the top 16 |
| 6241s | to the top eight has 100 |
| 6244s | as far as i'm aware with the numbers i |
| 6246s | have available to me not officially |
| 6248s | guaranteed him a chance at seasonal |
| 6249s | championships now and that's due to |
| 6251s | those four wins he got when he hated his |
| 6254s | life and his deck and everything at 0-3 |
| 6257s | two tournaments ago so just shows you |
| 6259s | hang in there when things are going bad |
| 6260s | and it turns out for you sometimes in |
| 6262s | the long run but enough of that a |
| 6265s | trooper you know every single time has |
| 6267s | the work ethic to keep on going and |
| 6269s | picking himself up even when he's been |
| 6271s | open about having not the greatest days |
| 6273s | on social media as well but that does |
| 6276s | mean that for habukabu there is slightly |
| 6278s | more writing on the line right if the |
| 6280s | numbers you said all line up that means |
| 6282s | that habu needs these next couple wins |
| 6284s | more so than orange to actually |
| 6286s | guarantee a spot through to seasonals |
| 6289s | yeah i haven't actually checked i think |
| 6290s | he was talking that he was he thought he |
| 6292s | was going to get in as well but as i |
| 6294s | understand it it might not be the case |
| 6296s | so |
| 6297s | um |
| 6298s | we shall see how many points he's got |
| 6299s | coming i just want to quickly quickly |
| 6301s | check now i've got a million screens |
| 6302s | open i think he might also be safe now |
| 6305s | as well |
| 6306s | um both of them on 18 points with the |
| 6308s | win earlier 17 looked like it was in any |
| 6311s | way |
| 6312s | but there could have been like a million |
| 6313s | way play off to eliminate one person or |
| 6315s | something like that but they've got |
| 6317s | themselves out of that bundle of 17 |
| 6318s | pointers now on to 18 points which is a |
| 6320s | big deal so they're probably both in |
| 6322s | seasonals but i think they both got a |
| 6324s | chance of getting to last call if they |
| 6327s | win this tournament uh that's something |
| 6328s | i would need to check precisely but |
| 6331s | either way we are going to see a titanic |
| 6333s | match of course there's still all that |
| 6334s | money on the line all the pride on the |
| 6336s | line and both these players more than |
| 6339s | capable of winning this tournament let's |
| 6341s | get on with it let's stop me from |
| 6342s | waffling absolutely both of them with |
| 6346s | many times a close call to calling |
| 6348s | themselves a master's tour champion but |
| 6350s | once again it is so close within reach |
| 6352s | but standing in the way of the other is |
| 6354s | their friend orange on his ramp druid |
| 6358s | and it is truly ramp in the sense that |
| 6361s | it does not include any other wind |
| 6362s | condition no kazakhstan to be found and |
| 6365s | i think that's actually going to be a |
| 6367s | boon to him in this matchup versus quest |
| 6369s | hunter you just want to get your threats |
| 6371s | online as soon as possible and giants |
| 6374s | are generally of the health total where |
| 6376s | quest hunter would struggle to deal with |
| 6378s | it unless they've already played their |
| 6380s | quest award so for orange here it's |
| 6382s | about hitting that early ramp he has not |
| 6384s | though so very much hoping for a wild |
| 6386s | growth off the top |
| 6388s | yeah absolutely if he hits that wild |
| 6389s | growth things are going to go pretty |
| 6391s | crazy double earthen scales against |
| 6393s | hunter um obviously wouldn't want them |
| 6396s | right clustering up his hand but they |
| 6397s | could be absolutely huge in messing up |
| 6400s | hunter calculations later on also just |
| 6402s | making it impossible to win on the other |
| 6405s | side though |
| 6406s | does have the doggy biscuit which can |
| 6408s | apply |
| 6409s | large amounts of early pressure against |
| 6411s | the druid and that's exactly why it's in |
| 6413s | the deck of course |
| 6415s | but there's no early minion to stick it |
| 6417s | on so that does make for a sort of a |
| 6420s | lackluster turn tune from habu just |
| 6422s | getting the quick shot out of the way to |
| 6423s | progress his quest a little bit |
| 6426s | i wonder if he is going to just play out |
| 6429s | the viper to get some usage from the |
| 6431s | doggy biscuit or if he could trade both |
| 6433s | of these and completely focus on instead |
| 6435s | dealing more damage with spells and |
| 6437s | getting to that tavish quest reward |
| 6439s | yeah it's going to be interesting to see |
| 6441s | he he chose not to coin out the viper so |
| 6443s | that's one point as to how he's thinking |
| 6446s | already but does put it onto the board |
| 6447s | this turn next to sort of doggie biscuit |
| 6450s | quick shot doggy biscuit hero power |
| 6451s | something like that and then looking to |
| 6453s | get that tavish on the board after that |
| 6457s | and start rolling infinite huffers or in |
| 6459s | my case infinitely ox |
| 6462s | well it's a dead turn four for orange |
| 6464s | but he has at least picked up guff so |
| 6467s | now he has once again the option between |
| 6468s | nourish and |
| 6470s | is just so excited to see |
| 6473s | absolutely nothing for the first four |
| 6475s | turns from orange and now he gets a very |
| 6478s | threatening viper online quick shot also |
| 6482s | means for stage of quest is done but |
| 6485s | this is where orange can start to fight |
| 6487s | back right do you think he's going guff |
| 6489s | to get it out of the way like we've seen |
| 6491s | from bunnyhopper or the nourish to get |
| 6493s | double ramp in a single turn |
| 6496s | uh he's going to have |
| 6499s | two more turns |
| 6502s | i think he needs to pick up a beefier |
| 6503s | minion to put these scales on so i'm |
| 6505s | going to get it wrong and say guff |
| 6507s | because i've seen him pick up the noise |
| 6508s | but i'm not going to cheat i was going |
| 6509s | to say guff |
| 6511s | it could be that the moonlit pickup |
| 6513s | skewed orange's decision even more in |
| 6516s | favor of the nourish because now he has |
| 6517s | something to spend this last two |
| 6520s | refreshed mana on uh miracle growth is |
| 6523s | definitely where my head's at here |
| 6525s | because he will have the mana to play it |
| 6527s | next turn given that he went for double |
| 6529s | uh ramp winnerish instead of just single |
| 6531s | ramp with guff |
| 6533s | yeah and again those earthen scales are |
| 6535s | going to be huge because otherwise he's |
| 6536s | dead in two turns give or take so |
| 6539s | absolutely needs to get that going |
| 6541s | probably three turns now because of |
| 6544s | happy playing the long game |
| 6546s | and he absolutely had that in mind from |
| 6548s | the beginning right uh improved ice trap |
| 6550s | looks insane here he kept the |
| 6553s | taves hero card in the opener on coin |
| 6556s | and has not minded being slow in the |
| 6559s | quest progression because if you go for |
| 6560s | it in this order where you're not done |
| 6562s | with second stage quest that means you |
| 6564s | can get your tavish hero power down to |
| 6567s | zero and get the refreshing benefits |
| 6570s | once you play the quest reward tavish |
| 6574s | big pickup for orange this aquatic form |
| 6576s | because the ice trap just won't matter |
| 6578s | yeah abu knows it too just doesn't do |
| 6581s | anything don't really care that that's |
| 6582s | counted because now he can actually do |
| 6583s | the miracle growth if he wants um but he |
| 6586s | may go for scale first just clear up |
| 6588s | this board so he's guaranteed to get the |
| 6591s | scales on top of the miracle growth next |
| 6593s | turn |
| 6594s | yeah |
| 6595s | also a bit awkward that because orange |
| 6597s | is at eight cards right now if he plays |
| 6599s | miracle growth he will go up to ten |
| 6600s | cards and if he doesn't find exactly |
| 6602s | innervates |
| 6604s | he will overdraw next turn |
| 6608s | probably not the end of the world though |
| 6610s | i think it is more important to |
| 6612s | get that huge minion developed and hope |
| 6615s | that habu can't clear it he can clear it |
| 6617s | but it's kind of an expensive way to do |
| 6620s | so it involves trading his viper which |
| 6622s | will be able to become dormant and |
| 6625s | restore itself in the next turn but |
| 6627s | still gives orange a free turn of |
| 6629s | development |
| 6631s | yeah absolutely and secrets only trigger |
| 6633s | on your opponent's turn right |
| 6637s | oh my bad sorry yeah |
| 6639s | so yeah |
| 6642s | my hand overflow |
| 6644s | yeah you're absolutely right the |
| 6645s | hufflepuff yeah so that explains only |
| 6647s | just previous players well even more you |
| 6650s | don't want to scale anything down and |
| 6651s | give the the secret the chance to |
| 6653s | trigger you make them trading to you |
| 6657s | burns the battlegrounds battle master |
| 6658s | which is you know pretty decent i would |
| 6661s | say for orange like he's nowhere near |
| 6663s | the position where he's looking for |
| 6664s | lethal yet he is more about finding ways |
| 6667s | to stabilize and the double earthen |
| 6670s | scales are already in hand which is |
| 6672s | sort of |
| 6673s | like heartening for orange knowing that |
| 6675s | he has the |
| 6676s | insta heel when he needs it but also in |
| 6679s | a certain sense a bit sad that you can't |
| 6681s | pull one from moonlit guidance and get |
| 6683s | an extra total copy throughout the game |
| 6688s | yeah it's it's been a sweet but it is a |
| 6690s | lot of heal in a position where he's now |
| 6692s | getting giants down he's going to start |
| 6694s | fighting back pretty quickly |
| 6696s | um |
| 6697s | if you need to survive one more turn |
| 6700s | i am curious as to whether he even plays |
| 6702s | the giant though because he does have |
| 6703s | oracle of a loon next turn like that |
| 6705s | could be multiplied giants if he waits a |
| 6707s | little bit longer but this is an |
| 6709s | improved emergency maneuver so looks |
| 6712s | like he doesn't want to play that far |
| 6715s | behind on tempo these vipers will not be |
| 6717s | able to attack yet next turn but if he |
| 6719s | had waited on the giant they would be |
| 6721s | able to attack before orange could |
| 6723s | attack with this giant |
| 6725s | it's so demoralizing sometimes playing |
| 6727s | against druid this one's not over yet |
| 6728s | because of the tavish but you've done |
| 6730s | all this sort of firing away for turn |
| 6733s | after turn and orange has one more |
| 6734s | health than he started with effectively |
| 6737s | but i think cabo is still in a very |
| 6739s | reasonable spot right he is making |
| 6741s | headway towards getting the tavish quest |
| 6743s | reward and from that point |
| 6745s | um he can just get so many animal |
| 6748s | companions that it could even go head to |
| 6750s | head or even out value honestly the |
| 6753s | druid development from orange |
| 6756s | absolutely um orange is now the one sort |
| 6759s | of on the block and that will help |
| 6763s | yeah never mind i was gonna say if it's |
| 6765s | just one giant for habu to face down |
| 6767s | he's definitely got the time but now |
| 6770s | these three welps can trade away for |
| 6772s | orange he can play anexia and get five |
| 6774s | whelps trade |
| 6775s | everything else that havu has left to |
| 6777s | offer and push the giant face |
| 6781s | yeah and now happy is going to |
| 6783s | have to start tidying up board after |
| 6785s | board obviously again with tavis he does |
| 6788s | get that value but this is huge i think |
| 6790s | orange has just got too much now on the |
| 6792s | board |
| 6794s | yeah and in some ways the hero card |
| 6796s | tavish makes it harder to clear up |
| 6798s | boards because you can't guarantee that |
| 6800s | you got huffer whereas you know the old |
| 6802s | hero power you can just control the tube |
| 6804s | damage every single time you know where |
| 6806s | it goes |
| 6806s | so habu first has to get the tabish |
| 6810s | quest reward |
| 6812s | and then see from there |
| 6815s | look at this |
| 6818s | and the piercing shot's so expensive |
| 6820s | right he is on zero out of two right now |
| 6821s | i think so technically if he traded the |
| 6823s | viper into a two or one cost damage |
| 6826s | spell he could finish quest and play |
| 6828s | tavish but that is not particularly |
| 6830s | likely so i think he's just gonna use |
| 6832s | the piercing shot to get rid of the |
| 6835s | onyxia here play treasure guard and |
| 6838s | get tavish online next turn |
| 6841s | yeah and keep the cheap spell back which |
| 6843s | with you as hell maybe he gets an |
| 6844s | opportunity to get two or three cards in |
| 6846s | a turn and from the tavish two or three |
| 6847s | more hero powers |
| 6849s | um unlikely but yeah you've got to keep |
| 6851s | that chance open because orange is going |
| 6853s | to start spewing minions everywhere |
| 6857s | orange hasn't had the time to play golf |
| 6859s | thus far i wonder if this is the window |
| 6861s | he goes for it because there's a decent |
| 6863s | like guff |
| 6864s | hero power vape azshara turn available |
| 6867s | to him i don't necessarily know what he |
| 6869s | takes from azshara but honestly like |
| 6871s | zalatath is kind of tempting it's not |
| 6873s | like kabu has access to healing but you |
| 6876s | know a free colossal or even a copied |
| 6879s | miracle growth from the ring is also |
| 6880s | quite decent |
| 6883s | yeah reminder that orange is not playing |
| 6885s | that kazakhstan so |
| 6887s | the huge amount of mana not quite as |
| 6889s | important obviously it's always lovely |
| 6891s | to have but |
| 6894s | not quite got the capability to just |
| 6896s | burn 20 mana in a turn like maybe you |
| 6898s | would with kazakhstan in the deck |
| 6901s | orange |
| 6902s | really not uh |
| 6905s | prioritizing guff is |
| 6907s | kind of jarring for me to see because |
| 6908s | it's just such a different play pattern |
| 6910s | than what i'm used to from druid but he |
| 6912s | clearly just wants to make sure he has a |
| 6914s | big thread on board every single turn |
| 6917s | and that doesn't make sense when you |
| 6918s | expect your opponent to have to |
| 6920s | invest five mana out of their nine to |
| 6923s | play tavish like you want to make that |
| 6924s | as awkward for them as possible only |
| 6927s | leave habuka before mana left to deal |
| 6929s | with a 10-6 or sorry 10-5 after the |
| 6931s | trade and the nine nine that's a tall |
| 6933s | ask |
| 6934s | yeah it's worth pointing out because of |
| 6936s | that lack of kazakhstan orange doesn't |
| 6938s | actually have that many big threats left |
| 6940s | there'll be another giant |
| 6942s | um another scale there's the |
| 6943s | battlemaster in there |
| 6945s | then there's a spammy arcanist and |
| 6947s | that's that's kind of his threat list |
| 6948s | right right and he burned the bgbms so |
| 6951s | it's really just the other giant i feel |
| 6956s | absolutely essential he gets this done |
| 6959s | with what he's got left in hand plus |
| 6960s | that one giant |
| 6962s | so he can't be particularly wasteful |
| 6964s | where with kazakhstan in your deck and |
| 6966s | again he's got here with this build and |
| 6968s | he's very happy with it but with |
| 6970s | kazakhstan in your deck you can |
| 6972s | be a little bit more liberal throw out a |
| 6974s | guff burn through your deck play |
| 6976s | kazakhstan win the game he's got to be |
| 6978s | much more careful than that yeah and |
| 6980s | orange really did invest uh in this |
| 6983s | early miracle growth using the window |
| 6985s | where habu has little mana to work with |
| 6988s | to try and push the damage now has two |
| 6990s | more hero power refreshes if he wants to |
| 6992s | use syria's for just one draw but i kind |
| 6994s | of think he has to he really cannot |
| 6996s | afford to leave this much damage on |
| 6998s | board so two more animal companions hits |
| 7000s | a huffer that's the big one can he hit |
| 7002s | another one to actually kill the |
| 7003s | nine-nine |
| 7008s | no this is |
| 7010s | but taunts are decent yeah they are |
| 7015s | because orange has |
| 7018s | mir sorry oracle plus druid of the reef |
| 7020s | but they have one attack short of being |
| 7022s | able to deal with the misha's nicely so |
| 7024s | i think he's going for dredge into |
| 7027s | second scale doesn't find it but ivis is |
| 7029s | very good indeed you can play that with |
| 7031s | the oracle balloon |
| 7034s | uh but i forgot about the iris in that |
| 7036s | big threat so i had yeah |
| 7039s | i forgot if you go |
| 7041s | if you go ivis oracle ibis you have four |
| 7044s | mana remaining and three of those tends |
| 7045s | to be key |
| 7047s | keywords that you get so it only is a |
| 7049s | three three on average i think if you |
| 7051s | play it with a loon but he doesn't have |
| 7052s | to play it with a loon |
| 7055s | yeah he can also this is a term where he |
| 7057s | could guff but again he's got that tempo |
| 7059s | issue we keep talking about right um he |
| 7061s | could have played it with guff but maybe |
| 7063s | he gets a five five somewhere here |
| 7066s | maybe |
| 7068s | oh he gets two five he just doesn't get |
| 7070s | taunt that's insane he misses out on the |
| 7073s | least necessary keyword and just gets |
| 7075s | perfect trades here so he gets to push |
| 7076s | the full 19. habu is |
| 7079s | very i think right to be upset here |
| 7081s | orange getting this 19 through just |
| 7083s | spells disaster because he even if this |
| 7085s | board somehow manages to be cleared up |
| 7088s | by a million huffers |
| 7090s | then orange has azshara zalatas and wild |
| 7093s | growth to end the game and hero power |
| 7097s | oh you're a power |
| 7099s | okay there'll be taunts in the way |
| 7101s | sometimes but we saw yesterday one of |
| 7103s | the matches the player using three hero |
| 7105s | powers to finish off the last three |
| 7107s | damage |
| 7108s | um that's why he didn't play guff all |
| 7110s | along |
| 7112s | it's not necessary |
| 7115s | i got turn three golf unfair i don't |
| 7116s | know the run okay it wasn't turn three |
| 7118s | fine |
| 7119s | maybe the trade-off for guff turn three |
| 7121s | being wildly unfair is that guff any |
| 7124s | turn later is just not necessary |
| 7126s | i mean if you're not playing kazakhstan |
| 7128s | i do i still do think that makes a lot |
| 7130s | of sense |
| 7131s | that it's a lot less necessary it's more |
| 7133s | of a luxury hold on |
| 7136s | any chance habu gets lethal here |
| 7138s | um |
| 7139s | like shut up |
| 7141s | right yeah |
| 7143s | i mean if this last hero power gives him |
| 7146s | a hover there was he could have aimed |
| 7147s | shot in face but yeah obviously it's not |
| 7149s | super likely he just |
| 7151s | was hoping to stay alive on board but i |
| 7154s | think he knows azshara is going to end |
| 7156s | the game here |
| 7163s | wild growth and the excess mana and |
| 7166s | orange actually gets the excess mana |
| 7168s | because he's capped at 10 because he |
| 7170s | didn't play golf yep calculated all |
| 7173s | along and takes a 1-0 lead i said that |
| 7176s | tongue-in-cheek but it's very possible |
| 7178s | orange was aware of such interactions |
| 7180s | staying on ten |
| 7181s | not quite to that extent but the the |
| 7183s | little things did add up there with the |
| 7185s | hero power still being active etcetera |
| 7187s | and it just but mainly the tempo he just |
| 7190s | kept the tempo the best he could never |
| 7191s | wasted the five mana wasted |
| 7194s | playing guff |
| 7195s | five it's more like four or three isn't |
| 7197s | it by the time you've actually done all |
| 7198s | the things and that got there and orange |
| 7201s | takes |
| 7202s | a well-fought 1-0 lead against the |
| 7204s | hunter and he'll be very happy with that |
| 7206s | start |
| 7207s | absolutely i think it is fair to say he |
| 7210s | got very fortunate with the outcome on |
| 7212s | the ios because if he had gotten the |
| 7214s | expected outcome of three threes then he |
| 7216s | would have missed nine damage face that |
| 7218s | turn right he would have had another |
| 7220s | taunt that he would have had to trade |
| 7222s | with his nine attack minion and then |
| 7223s | only send ten face and suddenly the |
| 7225s | azshara turn would not have been lethal |
| 7227s | there whereas habu had set up his own |
| 7229s | board with tons of damage and a very |
| 7231s | easy counter lethal so a lot had to go |
| 7234s | right for orange there but i also think |
| 7236s | that he played incredibly well with the |
| 7238s | miracle growth number two turn it didn't |
| 7241s | look particularly obvious like i was |
| 7243s | looking at oh this is a window to play |
| 7245s | golf when you're not under very much |
| 7246s | pressure but orange realized that he had |
| 7248s | to be the one to put pressure on board |
| 7250s | knowing that the tavish was coming |
| 7252s | online on that very next turn |
| 7255s | and there's the play harry's reaction |
| 7257s | yeah |
| 7259s | do we ever get to see hamu versus fury |
| 7261s | hunter one day |
| 7264s | we might blow up the cameras they just |
| 7266s | can't handle other actions hey that's |
| 7268s | just tj on his own manages that |
| 7274s | see what they queue up in game number |
| 7277s | two |
| 7278s | it's made time |
| 7280s | it's happening |
| 7283s | yes |
| 7284s | both of these players |
| 7286s | last time people posted anything i don't |
| 7288s | know got better but it's been going |
| 7290s | really well for him |
| 7292s | and |
| 7293s | famously hit rank one legend with naga |
| 7295s | mage and has |
| 7297s | continued staying top of europe ladder |
| 7300s | mainly with this deck i believe |
| 7302s | they do have different lists if it is |
| 7305s | going to be the mirror orange has opted |
| 7307s | for i want to say a pretty non-standard |
| 7310s | version with double hot streak and he's |
| 7312s | cut |
| 7314s | azshara well habu has also cut azshara |
| 7316s | from the top end but |
| 7317s | only |
| 7319s | no |
| 7320s | rainbow glow scales for orange doesn't |
| 7322s | want to run spell damage here he's just |
| 7324s | in favor of having a heavier spell |
| 7326s | package to make sure that he has truly |
| 7328s | infinite mana when he does pop off |
| 7334s | and again the hunter from habu |
| 7336s | yes |
| 7337s | better looking hand |
| 7339s | yeah that's just an insta-full keep all |
| 7341s | of these progress the quest and hunter |
| 7344s | is very much just trying to beat down |
| 7346s | the mage because especially when mage is |
| 7348s | on the play you know that they can't do |
| 7350s | anything crazy until turn five minimum |
| 7353s | uh for orange though there's a very real |
| 7355s | chance that he just hard mulch for spite |
| 7358s | lash siren plus vicious slitherspire or |
| 7360s | schoolteacher here because the way i |
| 7362s | play this matchup as naga mage is don't |
| 7364s | play down minions on curves you know |
| 7366s | they're going to die |
| 7367s | and even just help the hunter because |
| 7369s | they have good targets |
| 7371s | what you want to do is build one big |
| 7373s | board with your spite lash all together |
| 7375s | at once and that board cannot be |
| 7377s | answered all at once by the hunter and |
| 7380s | then you just went from there uh it's a |
| 7382s | bit hard to pop uh pull off though |
| 7383s | because of course you need a super early |
| 7385s | pop-off |
| 7389s | gift this is all ready for orange so i |
| 7392s | was distracted by a message but i'm back |
| 7397s | yeah it's a rundorf pick i think gifts |
| 7399s | of azshara just makes too much sense |
| 7401s | here the card is absolutely insane you |
| 7402s | run two copies of it and it's gonna be |
| 7404s | active soon because he can play crush |
| 7407s | call on the next turn i know i said |
| 7410s | don't bother playing minions on curve |
| 7412s | but crush claw is still card draw and it |
| 7414s | activates an even more efficient card |
| 7416s | draw from gibson azshara |
| 7419s | yeah and it's big enough as well it's |
| 7421s | not some little piddly thing you've got |
| 7423s | to invest two spells into this which |
| 7425s | again like you say sometimes the hunter |
| 7427s | wants to do |
| 7428s | um but also it's not the four mana turn |
| 7430s | so there's spells that could have gone |
| 7431s | face anyway so |
| 7433s | uh |
| 7434s | you you give your opponent an extra |
| 7436s | choice but it's not gonna make a huge |
| 7437s | problem out of it |
| 7439s | yep |
| 7440s | now orange he's on turn four already so |
| 7443s | this is sort of the last window to set |
| 7445s | up for a turn five pop-off this gift |
| 7447s | needs to find him vicious slither spear |
| 7449s | because he has not found school teacher |
| 7450s | so he doesn't have a guaranteed noggling |
| 7452s | to start the spider siren train on turn |
| 7455s | five so i do think he is going to go for |
| 7457s | a card draw this turn but i'm not sure |
| 7459s | if it's ai or gifts because |
| 7461s | gifts i mean it draws the same as ai you |
| 7463s | do have the mana to play spell coiler |
| 7465s | but honestly you're not super interested |
| 7467s | in playing a spell coiler this turn |
| 7468s | because that's more fuel on the spite |
| 7470s | last turn |
| 7473s | yeah which makes sense for the ai then |
| 7475s | just to get your mana spent but |
| 7478s | he's gonna give the gifts oh |
| 7479s | slitherspear that's huge |
| 7483s | this is interesting now though does |
| 7485s | orange play spell coiler i don't think |
| 7487s | he should because after he plays vicious |
| 7489s | litter sphere the only other nagas in |
| 7491s | hand costs three so |
| 7492s | that's not actually gaining him mana if |
| 7495s | he plays it on the spite last turn he |
| 7497s | will be able to play at least one but |
| 7500s | it's awkward yeah i like that he holds |
| 7503s | it |
| 7505s | and habib is running out of time this is |
| 7507s | kind of his free turn before things get |
| 7509s | pretty messy for him you'd expect or he |
| 7512s | would expect |
| 7516s | picks up another barbed nuts but doesn't |
| 7519s | have a naga it doesn't really matter |
| 7521s | though there are no minions that you |
| 7522s | would want to target everything's going |
| 7524s | face |
| 7525s | but oh boy there's gonna be tons of |
| 7527s | minions to target next turn |
| 7529s | yeah a few too many most likely he is |
| 7532s | trying to keep all of his cheap stuff |
| 7534s | back so that if he gets um tavis in play |
| 7536s | he can have a massive pop-off turn but |
| 7539s | now he's in prey mode because he knows |
| 7540s | what might happen here |
| 7542s | and yeah oh it's gonna happen here comes |
| 7544s | the things |
| 7545s | and this is where the genius of orange |
| 7547s | hot streak tech comes into play here |
| 7549s | because he didn't actually have a cheap |
| 7552s | spell other than that that was playable |
| 7553s | this turn like flurry is the standard |
| 7555s | one but if your opponent doesn't play |
| 7556s | minions you can't use the flurry as a |
| 7558s | lightning bloom essentially whereas |
| 7559s | hotstreak doesn't require any conditions |
| 7562s | um even if you don't necessarily get |
| 7564s | value from a fire spell being cheapened |
| 7567s | it's fine you just get value from the |
| 7569s | spite lash continuing your train so he |
| 7571s | goes nagas fell naga spell nagas fell |
| 7573s | this spell coiler can pull anything |
| 7575s | cheap yeah that ignite costs zero |
| 7577s | because he played hot streak so it's |
| 7578s | getting him even more mana that's insane |
| 7582s | yeah |
| 7583s | yeah ignite treasure guard |
| 7585s | keep it going |
| 7587s | not orange |
| 7588s | just just having a a moment to just you |
| 7591s | know show how how easy this is |
| 7594s | sometimes you break your meditative |
| 7596s | chance of nagas well not wait what am i |
| 7598s | on again then you have to spend a moment |
| 7600s | hovering and then you go off again and |
| 7602s | it's fine he has plenty of time |
| 7605s | don't make me think i'll do it wrong |
| 7610s | and yes that is a board habu has a |
| 7613s | chance to top deck tavish and coin that |
| 7615s | and get improved explosive trap but |
| 7617s | outside of that he is |
| 7619s | kinda |
| 7620s | dead |
| 7620s | well not done immediately but maybe over |
| 7623s | two turns |
| 7625s | yeah he's kind of dead |
| 7627s | he can kill this literally two turns |
| 7629s | himself |
| 7631s | no |
| 7633s | that was emphatic |
| 7637s | thanks thanks for coming my suggestion |
| 7639s | so |
| 7640s | deliberately i appreciate it i did |
| 7643s | consider and i just don't think it's |
| 7644s | possible i'm sorry |
| 7647s | easy with the contempt you deserved |
| 7650s | i'm used to tj sort of soft soaping it |
| 7652s | for me or maybe you know maybe just puts |
| 7654s | on you know a camera show or something |
| 7656s | to distract from my stupidity no just |
| 7658s | don't talk about that neil talk sense |
| 7661s | boy all right i am going to try to put |
| 7664s | it together right if if we didn't see |
| 7666s | this hand is it even theoretically |
| 7667s | possible with six man over two turns |
| 7669s | assuming he is still his coin right to |
| 7671s | deal 21 |
| 7673s | they'll know right because the most |
| 7675s | efficient damage is like aim shot hero |
| 7677s | power which is just seven and you do |
| 7679s | that twice over two turns it's only 14 |
| 7682s | and then you need |
| 7683s | like another seven i don't know man |
| 7685s | maybe it's possible it's happy |
| 7688s | nets coin |
| 7690s | you play the tavis you get two more |
| 7692s | quick shot no you went out of matter too |
| 7693s | fast you are you are right as always |
| 7697s | okay but orange actually doesn't have |
| 7699s | that much damage like the downside of |
| 7701s | having to play treasure guards to |
| 7703s | continue your train of draws against |
| 7705s | quest hunters they just don't kill them |
| 7706s | right they're one fives they don't |
| 7708s | really threaten counter lethal and right |
| 7710s | now orange |
| 7712s | has no further card draw he has sevara |
| 7714s | but |
| 7715s | it's not really copying anything |
| 7717s | relevant i don't think |
| 7719s | but relevant i just mean more damage |
| 7721s | spells yep |
| 7724s | it was what um an ignite maybe |
| 7726s | was that there then i lost track of how |
| 7728s | quickly everything got played but i |
| 7730s | confess i also don't know what the |
| 7732s | sevara is at right now but in terms of |
| 7734s | further board development orange can of |
| 7736s | course just place bite lash vicious |
| 7738s | there's fear and ping and call it a day |
| 7740s | if he wants and he currently has eight |
| 7744s | on board |
| 7745s | so he can put habu down to 14 and |
| 7748s | next turn |
| 7750s | can represent lethal if nothing is |
| 7752s | cleared |
| 7753s | and it's unlikely that nothing will be |
| 7754s | cleared but if something's getting |
| 7756s | cleared it likely means tavis is not |
| 7758s | being played so by virtue of that orange |
| 7759s | might even have a third turn to get |
| 7761s | lethal |
| 7764s | yeah and it might matter that if tavis |
| 7765s | is played the double flowy gets |
| 7767s | activated |
| 7770s | an extra couple of damage thrown in |
| 7772s | there |
| 7775s | plus he gets the opportunity to trade |
| 7776s | away a minion if you need some board |
| 7778s | space at that point draw another card |
| 7781s | and the flurries are very relevant not |
| 7782s | just to like refresh mana with the spy |
| 7785s | flash but they're actually buffing the |
| 7786s | vicious gear which is why we see habu um |
| 7790s | getting rid of the slither spear over |
| 7792s | the siren here he just |
| 7793s | i think correctly recognizes that as the |
| 7795s | bigger threat |
| 7799s | uh |
| 7801s | is b stalker at relevant at this |
| 7803s | position i i really don't five armor |
| 7807s | but like all this damage is going face |
| 7809s | already right and the explosive trap i |
| 7811s | think is too late by then so he just |
| 7812s | takes a spell it's a tradable at least |
| 7816s | but most importantly it's giving him |
| 7818s | potential fuel for the tavish because i |
| 7821s | think after getting rid of the slither |
| 7822s | spear habukabu will change his sights |
| 7825s | towards dealing 20 to orange |
| 7830s | there's an ignite though |
| 7832s | might be it if we um |
| 7835s | as a thing |
| 7837s | it's just yeah there's already 10 on |
| 7839s | board so just ignite ping is lethal |
| 7841s | right |
| 7844s | oh he's taking a 2-0 |
| 7848s | oh |
| 7849s | that was an intense one i mean you can |
| 7851s | see how much it means to hogwarts right |
| 7853s | the second he saw the spite lash siren |
| 7856s | um hit the board on turn five he was |
| 7858s | like really you have the thing |
| 7861s | and that's sort of the argument that |
| 7863s | people bring up when i say that i feel |
| 7864s | like naga mage is favored against quest |
| 7866s | hunter they're like are you really that |
| 7868s | likely to be able to pop off on turn |
| 7870s | five and i'm like decently like you |
| 7871s | always keep siren and then you have one |
| 7874s | drops or the school teacher or you could |
| 7876s | be on coin instead and you can pop off |
| 7878s | turn five with a two drop naga uh |
| 7881s | because it really is all about whether |
| 7884s | you can do it on turn five exactly if |
| 7886s | orange had waited one more turn i think |
| 7888s | it was very likely that habu could just |
| 7890s | kill him yeah he just gets a third |
| 7892s | tavish down which orange has to actually |
| 7894s | bother dealing with and then the tavis |
| 7896s | has already done its work anyway so |
| 7899s | suddenly everything is just going |
| 7900s | exactly the opposite to how we saw it |
| 7902s | but orange did have the things and you |
| 7904s | do get them on curve a large amount of |
| 7907s | the time there's two in your deck it's |
| 7908s | turn five you're allowed to have them |
| 7911s | and yeah from there on we've all seen |
| 7913s | this many times before |
| 7917s | and what streaks look lovely as well |
| 7920s | right that is the genius of orange's |
| 7922s | build in particular if he was thinking |
| 7924s | about the quest hunter matchup in |
| 7926s | particular because obviously flurries |
| 7928s | are still amazing against any other deck |
| 7930s | that really wants to get on board but |
| 7932s | against these quest hunter types yeah |
| 7934s | just play hot streak because your |
| 7936s | flurries will not be active until much |
| 7938s | later on after they're relevant so |
| 7941s | nicely done from orange he's only one |
| 7943s | game away from moving on to the |
| 7946s | semi-finals and he has to do it with his |
| 7950s | own quest hunter |
| 7952s | yep and he's going to be up against that |
| 7954s | druid first up not much of a surprise |
| 7956s | though i don't think um happy we're |
| 7958s | going to have a |
| 7959s | a go with this druid keeping the mage |
| 7961s | away from us though jim we're not |
| 7963s | allowed to see have a great mage |
| 7964s | apparently the thing that we all want to |
| 7967s | see from him in this tournament |
| 7969s | but a long way still to go in this |
| 7970s | matchup exactly there's a very real |
| 7973s | chance we still get to see the mage |
| 7974s | because i think habu skewed up his most |
| 7976s | favorable matchup first i think uh |
| 7979s | druid the way the deck operates it's |
| 7982s | just so great in terms of expected pan |
| 7985s | out of the quest hunter patterns right |
| 7989s | quest wanter wants to just not put any |
| 7991s | minions on board in the early game they |
| 7992s | just play damage spells progress quest |
| 7995s | and then try to finish you off from |
| 7997s | there druid is fine taking damage in the |
| 7999s | early game and they're happy when you |
| 8001s | don't play minions because they use that |
| 8002s | breathing room to ramp ramp ramp and |
| 8005s | suddenly you can't finish the druid off |
| 8007s | because they're gaining 910 armor for |
| 8009s | one mana with earthen scales |
| 8012s | yeah that armor is a big deal we we've |
| 8015s | seen it before and we'll see it again |
| 8017s | but the hunter it has a lot of sustain |
| 8020s | you can do |
| 8021s | way more than 30 damage but you have to |
| 8024s | sort of spike the damage at some point |
| 8027s | to to finish off the armor otherwise if |
| 8029s | the armor just keeps coming up and you |
| 8030s | just keep doing eight damage and they |
| 8031s | keep gaining eight armor you never get |
| 8034s | there so you've got to find a way to |
| 8035s | spike over the top of the damage that's |
| 8037s | there |
| 8038s | we see this in in many decks against |
| 8039s | druid if you give them too much time |
| 8042s | it just beats you any way it wants it's |
| 8044s | really irritating |
| 8045s | um but it's such a good deck |
| 8048s | i think that |
| 8050s | yeah no problem beyond hitting spikes of |
| 8053s | damage the other way to approach the |
| 8055s | matchup as quest hunters go for early b |
| 8058s | stalker tavish which is exactly what we |
| 8059s | saw habukabu go for again he was against |
| 8063s | the non-kazakhstan version but |
| 8064s | kazakhstan really just isn't the win |
| 8066s | condition for druid in this matchup it |
| 8068s | is sticking naga giants and finishing |
| 8070s | them off uh with multiple eight eights |
| 8073s | hitting them in the face and the way |
| 8075s | that quest hunter can try and actually |
| 8078s | counter develop is to have a bunch of |
| 8080s | animal companions spawning every turn so |
| 8083s | if hunter if orange gets the chance to |
| 8085s | play tavish as early as possible the |
| 8086s | hero card he will go for it just like |
| 8088s | how habukabu did i think |
| 8092s | we get to see |
| 8093s | um also obviously director can just |
| 8095s | happen |
| 8096s | it's card that just happens to people |
| 8098s | sometimes |
| 8101s | it is true drachthar has happened to me |
| 8104s | more times than i'd like |
| 8108s | worth a look from orange here obviously |
| 8110s | version design is just a way of getting |
| 8112s | a lot of damage fairly quickly but you |
| 8115s | don't really want to drop it on curve |
| 8117s | you definitely can do that |
| 8120s | it is interesting |
| 8123s | right because the way we laid out the |
| 8125s | match up is you know most of the time |
| 8127s | you don't play minions on curve as quest |
| 8129s | hunter and druid's happy about that but |
| 8131s | what if you do get you know the uncommon |
| 8134s | hand that allows you to play a curve |
| 8136s | like this one you mean yeah i mean i was |
| 8139s | wondering do you even keep treasure |
| 8140s | guard if you're keeping razna just to |
| 8142s | make sure that you can you know play |
| 8144s | minion minion minion but obviously with |
| 8146s | rajna john you want spells and you want |
| 8149s | dracula to happen for you |
| 8151s | and viper to fill in the gap because |
| 8152s | treasure guard is a little bit sort of |
| 8155s | 150 but |
| 8157s | viper is a bit more 340 and that's a lot |
| 8161s | more damage |
| 8162s | it really is |
| 8164s | in terms of |
| 8165s | uh damage sticking though i wanted to |
| 8167s | say even though lunar eclipse is gone |
| 8170s | for druid three health is still a |
| 8172s | manageable break point when they're |
| 8173s | running druid of the wreath as we see |
| 8175s | that interaction exactly pan out here a |
| 8177s | bit painful for orange to lose that |
| 8179s | rational because it could have |
| 8180s | represented so much damage throughout |
| 8182s | the course of the game but i think he |
| 8184s | stays the course just go for the viper |
| 8186s | in to direct our game plan that you're |
| 8187s | laying out |
| 8188s | into tracking doggie biscuit how about |
| 8190s | that yes um so |
| 8193s | it did do its job the verge because it |
| 8195s | got rid of the minion a bit of the druid |
| 8197s | of the reef which means the viper now |
| 8199s | has a better chance of hanging around |
| 8201s | and repeat if that happens again for |
| 8203s | director and then yeah doggy basically |
| 8205s | come off the top or the tracking can |
| 8207s | just fine tavis loads of options here |
| 8209s | for orange in this one |
| 8211s | unfortunately though habu has the curve |
| 8214s | um |
| 8216s | wild growth into nourish but obviously |
| 8218s | that's still a little bit slow into a |
| 8220s | dracula but he has onyxia now and that's |
| 8223s | playable next turn lorenda he nourishes |
| 8226s | up to eight mana next turn and then he |
| 8229s | can coinvade the anexia |
| 8231s | that's |
| 8233s | absolutely ludicrous um i believe he's |
| 8236s | waving his arms around like bad things |
| 8238s | are happening but he's got a nixia on |
| 8240s | turn i know five |
| 8243s | behave yourself |
| 8244s | yeah you've also got a spammy arcanist |
| 8246s | in case of emergencies as well |
| 8249s | that's crazy |
| 8251s | okay |
| 8252s | i'm going to pull it back together um |
| 8255s | wooden prey and barb nuts are very |
| 8257s | similar for orange here maybe you take |
| 8259s | wound prey just because another one one |
| 8261s | on board but then that walks into spammy |
| 8263s | so maybe barbados |
| 8266s | actually might want the howl here empty |
| 8267s | your hand out over the next couple of |
| 8269s | turns |
| 8270s | okay |
| 8271s | yeah he can go like really looking for |
| 8272s | that tavis even though we've had this |
| 8274s | lovely start from orange's side |
| 8277s | it is in a spot where |
| 8280s | if you empty the hand |
| 8282s | and then get tavish then your hero power |
| 8284s | would originally cost zero right and |
| 8287s | then you make it go back to two with |
| 8288s | tavish which is not the ideal order so i |
| 8290s | wonder if this is a fan out where orange |
| 8292s | is meant to just say this board is |
| 8294s | enough and let me go for a quest reward |
| 8297s | instead |
| 8298s | what you called to give the wind prey |
| 8302s | let's take the wound prey i was saying |
| 8304s | it walks into spammy but now that i look |
| 8305s | at the board again it's just a one |
| 8307s | health there's no two or three health so |
| 8309s | the train of defile stops after two |
| 8311s | procs |
| 8312s | and that's still fine |
| 8314s | and that little one one makes it so that |
| 8317s | onyxia's not a full board clear |
| 8320s | well he'll feel so much better |
| 8322s | turn five enixia now then |
| 8328s | i mean yeah it gets through the treasure |
| 8330s | guard and then six whelps deal with one |
| 8333s | four four four and three four right |
| 8337s | but the piercing shot and hero powers |
| 8339s | actually is there any armor at all is |
| 8341s | that a scales on the left-hand side it |
| 8342s | is yeah so happy's okay for armor |
| 8344s | right the druid of the reef pickup is |
| 8346s | huge actually it lets them go spammy |
| 8348s | here insane |
| 8350s | and he spotted that so quickly right |
| 8352s | okay three damage on the one five and |
| 8354s | then one damage on the one four and the |
| 8355s | board is one two three four ping ping |
| 8358s | ping ping complete clear and as you so |
| 8361s | put it it allows him the guaranteed |
| 8363s | onyxia scale the next turn which will |
| 8366s | pretty much close out the game i feel |
| 8370s | yes |
| 8372s | yeah can i do anything else about it |
| 8376s | i can pile on more damage here i think |
| 8378s | the board game plan is over so he just |
| 8380s | hopes there's no earthen scales |
| 8385s | all right there's |
| 8387s | tavish but does he want it at this point |
| 8390s | is it |
| 8392s | yeah hard to say |
| 8394s | he's got to judge is there any big armor |
| 8396s | game coming in the next couple of turns |
| 8398s | or do i get there with the damage and |
| 8399s | that's really hard it's easier for us to |
| 8401s | say we can see |
| 8403s | the nastiness that is coming over the |
| 8404s | next couple of terms but |
| 8406s | this is a straight judgment call for |
| 8408s | orange here yeah it's really tempting to |
| 8411s | just say habu is at 13 i have piercing |
| 8414s | shot my hero power is going down to zero |
| 8416s | this turn and i have aimed shot dragon |
| 8419s | bane shot hero power and another two |
| 8420s | cost spell potentially next turn |
| 8423s | that does spell lethal if there's no |
| 8425s | armor gain but |
| 8426s | it's there |
| 8429s | okay |
| 8432s | so now he just has to top deck tavish |
| 8434s | instead he'll be fine |
| 8437s | or more damage because |
| 8439s | onyxia is plus nine armor with the |
| 8441s | earthen scale so hubble goes to 18 which |
| 8444s | is not |
| 8445s | completely out of range right |
| 8448s | uh aim shot dragon bane hero power is |
| 8451s | nine damage he's already halfway there |
| 8454s | but he has one turn to find counter |
| 8456s | lethal but there's a second skills for |
| 8458s | half oh no |
| 8460s | oh my goodness |
| 8464s | that's a quick shot that's a lot more |
| 8465s | damage but it needs to be that's the |
| 8467s | problem now |
| 8469s | right |
| 8470s | he has 12 but half was at 18. |
| 8476s | there's no choice but to send it all |
| 8477s | face hope you top deck more damage next |
| 8480s | turn and hope that there's no second |
| 8481s | scales i don't think any other line ever |
| 8483s | gets there for orange i think that's |
| 8485s | true he doesn't know about the second |
| 8486s | scales so |
| 8488s | has |
| 8489s | of course he picks up a minion off the |
| 8490s | doggy biscuit um |
| 8492s | [Music] |
| 8494s | has to go through this process of trying |
| 8496s | to get enough damage in two turns |
| 8498s | habu claps his hands he knows he's not |
| 8500s | dead |
| 8503s | my opponent doesn't have the cards |
| 8506s | i think he deserves to be thrown a bone |
| 8508s | here ha who's had a bit of a rough |
| 8509s | series especially with that iva still |
| 8512s | haunts me |
| 8515s | yeah it was a good ibis you allowed them |
| 8517s | though you played enough battlegrounds |
| 8518s | to know that um adapt style effects can |
| 8521s | go any different ways |
| 8526s | avoids also played quite a lot of |
| 8528s | battlegrounds and he's very good at it |
| 8530s | when he decides to focus it is very |
| 8532s | annoying you're right |
| 8534s | how can he be so good at so many things |
| 8537s | i don't know |
| 8538s | actually you do know you're just not |
| 8540s | letting on because you're good at so |
| 8541s | many things as well jia i hate to admit |
| 8543s | it but you really are damn it thank you |
| 8546s | but i'm playing masters tours |
| 8549s | there's good and then there's haboo good |
| 8551s | you know 20 damage from here |
| 8560s | no he absolutely can't |
| 8563s | he's dead |
| 8565s | we're going to game four |
| 8568s | i'm trying to work out ways where he can |
| 8570s | get to |
| 8572s | 12 with a quick shot by drawing the |
| 8574s | other tabish okay it's not ever |
| 8575s | happening is it he's got about eight |
| 8577s | mana his opponent has 200 we are indeed |
| 8579s | as gia summed up |
| 8581s | going to game number four |
| 8583s | orange trying to find a win with the |
| 8585s | hunter |
| 8586s | and have you tried to find a win with |
| 8587s | the hunter or the mage |
| 8590s | indeed so we do have a chance to see |
| 8593s | naga mage versus quest hunter again |
| 8596s | this time piloted by habu gabu on the |
| 8599s | naga mage which is going to be much fun |
| 8601s | indeed but i don't think it's going to |
| 8602s | be going much too different from the way |
| 8605s | orange |
| 8606s | piloted it which is trying to go as wide |
| 8608s | on board as possible as early as |
| 8610s | possible i should say uh but it is you |
| 8613s | know in theory harder for howard to do |
| 8615s | that because he doesn't have hot streak |
| 8616s | right some of his um mana gaining spells |
| 8620s | are conditional on there being minions |
| 8622s | on orange's side which there might not |
| 8624s | necessarily be or we could see the |
| 8626s | hunter mirror which was the very first |
| 8628s | game we cast all day lorenda and that |
| 8631s | one came very much down to the wire |
| 8633s | indeed |
| 8634s | yep and it is going to be the mage so |
| 8637s | this could well come down to another |
| 8640s | hunter mirror but first habib has got to |
| 8642s | get through |
| 8643s | the the hunter once with the mage |
| 8646s | and is it really just the the the |
| 8649s | trivial thing about do you find your |
| 8651s | spike lash or not is that is that all it |
| 8653s | comes down to in my experience yes i |
| 8655s | hate to say it but |
| 8657s | i mean every other hand right if you if |
| 8659s | you attempt to curve out one three into |
| 8662s | two three into three four that's peanuts |
| 8665s | for hunter to deal with that's exactly |
| 8666s | what they want to see right they can |
| 8668s | just progress their quest and suddenly |
| 8670s | if you're down so many nagas by the time |
| 8672s | you play fight latch tire and your train |
| 8674s | just gets cut short you need a balance |
| 8676s | of minions and spells to get that huge |
| 8678s | pop-off turn so i think habu will be |
| 8680s | focused on finding that turn five |
| 8684s | insurmountable board and if he doesn't |
| 8686s | find it orange could be right there |
| 8689s | getting the lethal straight away |
| 8692s | if that's the game plan do you keep |
| 8693s | arcane intellect in the opener |
| 8696s | i think it's very reasonable to do so |
| 8698s | yes |
| 8699s | uh glow scale and first flame not so |
| 8701s | much but you can think about slither |
| 8702s | spear just as okay it's a one drop which |
| 8705s | is guaranteed fuel for spite lash but |
| 8708s | habu is on coin so he doesn't |
| 8709s | necessarily need a one drop |
| 8712s | um |
| 8713s | if you keep the one drop though it means |
| 8714s | you can pop off turn four instead of |
| 8716s | turn five which is obviously the earlier |
| 8719s | the better so i do like the keep of |
| 8721s | slither plus arcane now he's only |
| 8723s | missing the siren |
| 8727s | oh he played it on kerm what do i know |
| 8733s | i mean |
| 8733s | nobody knows as much about this deck as |
| 8735s | happy right so true yeah you're allowed |
| 8738s | to not know every single thing that he |
| 8740s | knows we'll let you off on this one |
| 8742s | occasion thanks great carefree though do |
| 8744s | it carefully any more |
| 8747s | red lights you mean |
| 8749s | that carefully twiddle i mean to it |
| 8750s | lightly |
| 8751s | yeah yeah that one has quite a few memes |
| 8754s | attached to it so i will shed lightly |
| 8757s | um so looking at it |
| 8760s | in this instance it's actually quite |
| 8762s | tough for orange to deal with a 1 3 on |
| 8765s | two mana it takes a combination of two |
| 8768s | spells or exactly quick shot |
| 8770s | neither of which were available here so |
| 8772s | that's a huge deal for habu he can |
| 8774s | actually |
| 8775s | coin out crush claw and |
| 8777s | work out a board state that's not all |
| 8779s | immediately clearable to orange at once |
| 8781s | and that means habu can get incremental |
| 8783s | damage as he draws towards the spider |
| 8787s | siren |
| 8789s | he got it he got it he got it yeah |
| 8793s | so we don't see the cards before you we |
| 8794s | just see the actions on the left we both |
| 8796s | just watched to see what the players do |
| 8798s | [Laughter] |
| 8801s | all right |
| 8802s | uh barbnets with no naga played is |
| 8806s | annoying indeed for orange but he is |
| 8809s | going now for just clearing a couple of |
| 8811s | minions and now that i look at this |
| 8813s | jakhtar for orange habu's game plan does |
| 8816s | make a lot more sense here because if |
| 8818s | you go for this ultra ultra greedy style |
| 8820s | with mage of holding back all your |
| 8821s | resources and going for only spite lash |
| 8824s | um you do get punished by a drachthar |
| 8827s | play on the other side because that's a |
| 8828s | little bit too much pressure to deal |
| 8830s | with but now that habu has forced orange |
| 8832s | to respond a bit he has some |
| 8834s | pre-developed minions before going for |
| 8836s | draktar and now he's actually his school |
| 8838s | teacher as well which means he will |
| 8840s | guaranteed have the noggling for turn |
| 8842s | five and the turn five pop off |
| 8844s | oh he's just hit the damage director |
| 8846s | here |
| 8848s | oh that's a that's a big deal for the |
| 8850s | clock in terms of habu because we saw |
| 8853s | last time making the big boards one |
| 8855s | thing but actually getting it to do |
| 8857s | enough damage to kill in two turns it's |
| 8859s | a little bit harder sometimes uh |
| 8861s | depending how you're doing for spells |
| 8863s | and so if i'm just hitting you for 10 |
| 8864s | and you're having to trade into some of |
| 8866s | these things um orange is the rest of |
| 8868s | his hand the doggy biscuit is going to |
| 8869s | be huge next turn then he's got damage |
| 8872s | coming out as well so still a game on |
| 8874s | here |
| 8875s | for sure orange gets minimum 10 damage |
| 8878s | face from his trekthar which |
| 8879s | incidentally is the first colossal ever |
| 8882s | revealed in hearthstone look at it |
| 8884s | yeah |
| 8885s | two appendages |
| 8888s | actually no that's my bad it's doctor |
| 8890s | boom that was the first colossal and |
| 8891s | jack thor was the second |
| 8894s | habu here i don't think he has a choice |
| 8897s | except to set up the pop off because if |
| 8899s | he goes for a partial clear |
| 8901s | that just wrecks his prospects of doing |
| 8904s | anything |
| 8905s | really powerful over the next couple |
| 8906s | turns so he will take a beating on the |
| 8908s | next turn but there is a chance that he |
| 8911s | gets to |
| 8912s | draw into flurry from this gifts of |
| 8914s | azshara that will be playable next turn |
| 8916s | or get like some amazing spell from the |
| 8918s | nagaling and then even taking all that |
| 8921s | damage he can try and set up a counter |
| 8922s | lethal over two turns and maybe freeze |
| 8925s | whatever minions are remaining |
| 8927s | yeah i think the thing that took him a |
| 8928s | long time to think about those it's |
| 8929s | flowy enough |
| 8931s | it should be but this is to be a massive |
| 8934s | hit this turn |
| 8936s | and given that after your pop off you |
| 8938s | probably don't kill orange on the |
| 8939s | following turn orange will be left doing |
| 8942s | something like 16 damage to you over two |
| 8944s | turns that's very doable for this hunter |
| 8946s | deck |
| 8948s | very true |
| 8949s | so orange now has to decide whether he |
| 8952s | is going to respect any of this board or |
| 8955s | push full face damage i think there's a |
| 8957s | healthy middle ground somewhere here |
| 8958s | because this might be the last turn he |
| 8960s | can get any damage going face from |
| 8961s | doggie biscuit so i like committing that |
| 8964s | but maybe some other spells can be used |
| 8966s | to deal with at least the vicious |
| 8968s | slither spear because if you leave that |
| 8969s | on board going into a pop-off turn can |
| 8971s | very easily become like a seven attack |
| 8973s | minion from one |
| 8975s | derek is keeping a close eye on us while |
| 8978s | he's having this one-off um leroy |
| 8980s | jenkins apparently was the first |
| 8982s | colossal thanks derek |
| 8984s | but it's someone's minions for your |
| 8985s | opponent how does that one |
| 8988s | i don't know but |
| 8989s | that's derek's mind okay |
| 8992s | it is his mind |
| 8994s | all right so orange in the end deciding |
| 8998s | to |
| 8999s | not play doggy biscuit |
| 9003s | full |
| 9008s | what's he reacting to i mean we're |
| 9010s | behind here |
| 9012s | but orange just left up this leather |
| 9014s | spear willingly |
| 9016s | interesting |
| 9021s | he's kept the doggy biscuit so it goes |
| 9023s | on whichever minion he wants though |
| 9025s | how's happy going to get on here picking |
| 9027s | up that fireball yeah |
| 9030s | fireball was kind of bad though like all |
| 9031s | the spell options were cheap and i think |
| 9033s | we're expensive and i think he was |
| 9035s | reacting badly to not finding any spells |
| 9037s | off this gift of azshara however he's |
| 9039s | found ruined orb off of the spell coiler |
| 9041s | which can act as two spells if you |
| 9043s | discover something cheap enough so it's |
| 9045s | very much still doable for habu |
| 9047s | already sending some first flames at his |
| 9050s | own minions because i think he realizes |
| 9052s | that he needs the board space more than |
| 9054s | anything here to find flurry |
| 9058s | and actually freeze these snakes if not |
| 9060s | deal with them entirely |
| 9062s | oh my god so expensive again the spells |
| 9064s | but he can play arcane intellect because |
| 9066s | the nagaland comes down and it did find |
| 9068s | flurry all right he's fine it's just |
| 9070s | cards flying around slow down actually |
| 9073s | don't slow down the ropes burning but oh |
| 9075s | my |
| 9076s | play by playing casting |
| 9078s | off the turn just shooting his own stuff |
| 9082s | yep |
| 9083s | there we go again this is why i'm |
| 9085s | surprised orange didn't kill the one |
| 9087s | three instead of the five four but i |
| 9090s | mean it only dealt one more damage fair |
| 9092s | enough |
| 9095s | and it wouldn't have made a difference |
| 9097s | if this was a five four instead of a |
| 9098s | sixty orange still would have been in a |
| 9100s | whole load of trouble |
| 9103s | yeah and the fireball also says he's in |
| 9105s | a whole load of trouble |
| 9108s | the extra six damage |
| 9110s | how much can he clear he can make a |
| 9113s | rushing treasure guard |
| 9115s | um treasure guard lets your barb nuts |
| 9118s | hit two targets but every break point is |
| 9120s | awkward here so many things on three |
| 9122s | health not two |
| 9124s | and if you're sending any damage to |
| 9126s | minions it means you're that much |
| 9128s | farther away from actually getting the |
| 9129s | counter lethal |
| 9131s | so |
| 9132s | is there a sweet spot where orange can |
| 9134s | survive on board just pretend habu has |
| 9136s | no further damage in hand and have a |
| 9139s | two-turn lethal that involves killing |
| 9141s | the 6-3 i believe |
| 9145s | maybe the 542 |
| 9149s | okay |
| 9153s | excuse me |
| 9155s | oh is this where it's at |
| 9159s | just drop tavish and see if your doggy |
| 9161s | biscuit can cycle your mark shot can |
| 9163s | pick up something cheap |
| 9164s | i think it's very reasonable |
| 9167s | doesn't deal any damage face but it |
| 9169s | gives him a very strong shot of |
| 9171s | surviving this turn and with some runner |
| 9173s | runner tavish draws maybe it's possible |
| 9176s | like |
| 9177s | if you trade doggy biscuit into aimchat |
| 9179s | fury as hell i don't know but can habu |
| 9182s | himself find the lethal it is currently |
| 9184s | not in hand but he has many more skel uh |
| 9187s | spells to be discovered |
| 9189s | like a ruiner |
| 9191s | there we go yep |
| 9193s | that is the game all he needs is |
| 9194s | everything face roon door ping and that |
| 9196s | is gg all the way down to the quest |
| 9199s | hunter mirror |
| 9201s | of course it is |
| 9203s | um |
| 9204s | and we've already seen one of these |
| 9206s | today the possessive game was very |
| 9208s | interesting all about |
| 9210s | all about getting lethal all about those |
| 9212s | break points all about just trying to |
| 9214s | make your opponent only be able to do |
| 9216s | you for 28 while you do them for 30 on |
| 9218s | the hit back |
| 9220s | um |
| 9221s | going first quite a big deal in that |
| 9222s | match-up but not the only deal we saw |
| 9225s | possessing having to just wriggle around |
| 9227s | bunny hopper |
| 9229s | end up with a 1-1 on the board which |
| 9230s | allowed possessing to spend mana |
| 9232s | efficiently to a piercing shot let's see |
| 9234s | how this one goes down because it seems |
| 9235s | to be different every time you sometimes |
| 9237s | get |
| 9238s | explosive traps into directors that make |
| 9241s | a difference but no explosive trap in |
| 9243s | these decks |
| 9244s | right |
| 9245s | uh draxar is definitely a difference |
| 9248s | maker i think i mentioned this also at |
| 9250s | the beginning of the day where sometimes |
| 9252s | being the first to play drachthar in the |
| 9255s | quest hunter mirror is not the end-all |
| 9257s | be-all back in the day when bola shot |
| 9259s | was available and it was actually |
| 9260s | possible to clear the draktar board |
| 9262s | right after it hits um the board and so |
| 9265s | you don't take any additional damage |
| 9267s | from it or maybe only like two or three |
| 9269s | damage across two turns and that is |
| 9272s | totally fine but in this matter i feel |
| 9274s | like it is much harder to clear a |
| 9276s | dracula board so being able to play that |
| 9278s | first is a huge difference maker |
| 9281s | although both players have access to no |
| 9283s | minions here i think orange is still |
| 9286s | very fine to full keep this hand |
| 9289s | yep aim shots so much damage dragon ball |
| 9291s | shot such a powerful card |
| 9293s | um you just absolutely don't gamble with |
| 9295s | that hand you're going first you just |
| 9297s | don't want a disaster you absolutely |
| 9298s | keep this |
| 9300s | abu also keeping any guaranteed damage |
| 9303s | spells to the face and we will be seeing |
| 9305s | a whole lot of shootie spells in the |
| 9308s | next couple turns |
| 9310s | whole load of shitty spells |
| 9314s | yeah they all say shot |
| 9317s | i saw me to say they're shoddy |
| 9320s | be very careful with those shotty spells |
| 9322s | yeah that could go very wrong very |
| 9324s | quickly |
| 9327s | quick shot |
| 9328s | dragon bane shot aim shot mark shot |
| 9332s | piercing shot arcane shot |
| 9338s | they really are a lot |
| 9339s | yes |
| 9342s | that's like more than four which is |
| 9343s | where my definition of a lot comes in |
| 9346s | normally i can't handle more than two |
| 9348s | shots |
| 9351s | nice work |
| 9352s | okay treasure card that's a minion |
| 9354s | that's not a shot card |
| 9357s | does he bother playing it |
| 9360s | maybe not i feel like your power is more |
| 9362s | valuable |
| 9364s | but okay what do i know |
| 9368s | he's saving it all up for a potential |
| 9370s | pop off after |
| 9372s | tavis if we get to that point because |
| 9374s | that can just be a one turn lethal |
| 9377s | the benefit of treasure guard is it has |
| 9378s | a lot of health on it so if orange |
| 9380s | decides to invest a piercing shot on |
| 9382s | this it's not that great honestly |
| 9387s | yeah |
| 9387s | that's from habu side right from where |
| 9389s | we are orange doesn't have particularly |
| 9391s | great options so he's going to do this |
| 9392s | over two turns who gets barb nuts from |
| 9395s | the mark shot though pretty good |
| 9398s | mark shot being able to find a target is |
| 9401s | nice but drawing double mark shot this |
| 9403s | early i want to say is not nice for |
| 9405s | orange it's just not great in the match |
| 9407s | up i feel too slow |
| 9416s | a lot of extra damage |
| 9422s | and the rest of the turn can be hero |
| 9424s | power arcane shot call it a day |
| 9427s | so he should have enough cards in hand |
| 9429s | for the foreseeable future so mark's |
| 9430s | shot you can rule out |
| 9432s | dog |
| 9433s | immediate damage but not really that |
| 9435s | great it is repeatable damage but again |
| 9437s | you saw orange's last play you're kind |
| 9439s | of expecting |
| 9441s | the minion to be dealt with it's got to |
| 9443s | be version for me |
| 9445s | i agree because if you expect your |
| 9447s | minion to be dealt with then the |
| 9448s | argument for doggy biscuit is oh it's an |
| 9451s | additional two damage but it's also just |
| 9454s | the same amount that a hero power would |
| 9455s | deal |
| 9456s | you could take doggie biscuit and trade |
| 9458s | it for a redraw is another option |
| 9462s | sure |
| 9465s | okay he is going to play it then so is |
| 9467s | that coin hero power here no it's taking |
| 9469s | shots so |
| 9470s | habu is saying he's fine with missing a |
| 9472s | hero power and says that he will have |
| 9475s | enough mana or like enough ways to spend |
| 9478s | his mana efficiently that it's fine to |
| 9480s | miss a hero power here |
| 9482s | or he could be saying that maybe orange |
| 9484s | doesn't have spells that are exclusively |
| 9486s | minion targeting because he's already |
| 9488s | seen a mark shot and maybe by buffing |
| 9490s | the treasure guard he can force orange |
| 9493s | to use some like |
| 9494s | uh the hero power from the aim chart for |
| 9496s | example on a minion instead but that's |
| 9498s | not the case because orange has second |
| 9500s | marked shot |
| 9502s | or piercing |
| 9504s | yeah and |
| 9506s | it's so close nobody's taking any damage |
| 9508s | to mean anything yet which |
| 9511s | kind of favors orange because he's |
| 9512s | starting to remove he's starting to |
| 9514s | actually chew through these expensive |
| 9516s | cards already |
| 9518s | um so if progress isn't being made it |
| 9520s | favors the person |
| 9524s | honestly any cheap damage fell i'm like |
| 9526s | oh yeah sign me up for that that's |
| 9527s | amazing |
| 9529s | just extra ways to progress your quest |
| 9532s | huge here because in the match up where |
| 9534s | you're just trying to |
| 9536s | play cheap spell chief spell chief spell |
| 9538s | you guess out pretty quickly and you |
| 9540s | might be lacking one spell to get to |
| 9541s | your tavish but not going to happen for |
| 9543s | orange here however that's a drugstore |
| 9545s | for habu that is adrec though habu's |
| 9548s | excitement once again could not be |
| 9550s | contained now orange |
| 9552s | yep sits back he's going to think this |
| 9553s | one through there's a lot going on with |
| 9555s | this drag thor |
| 9557s | there is a one one that he can piercing |
| 9560s | shot though |
| 9562s | so |
| 9562s | if he goes piercing shot quick shot |
| 9565s | that's tavish in hand right yep |
| 9569s | that's five |
| 9570s | seven that's ten damage |
| 9574s | yeah with the hero |
| 9577s | next turn hero power tavis net net is 10 |
| 9580s | more |
| 9581s | zero power |
| 9584s | yeah that's absolutely right |
| 9586s | just got to be the line |
| 9589s | uh just hope you don't die from 13. |
| 9592s | yeah i don't think it's particularly |
| 9594s | likely he dies |
| 9596s | i'd also be scared of tavish hero card |
| 9599s | from habu in that instance |
| 9601s | okay it's tavish now then i guess |
| 9604s | sure okay that's the same thing still |
| 9607s | very strong but potentially means you |
| 9610s | don't have a 1-1 target for piercing |
| 9612s | shot the next turn |
| 9613s | that does mean you have a 7-7 on the |
| 9615s | board true |
| 9617s | so |
| 9618s | yeah |
| 9620s | okay the other line was more guaranteed |
| 9622s | actually now i think about it but yeah i |
| 9625s | also think it's more guaranteed but this |
| 9627s | is perhaps a safer player around the |
| 9629s | death not that night um hero card tavis |
| 9631s | because orange gets checkmated if habu |
| 9634s | gains armor in that spot where he |
| 9635s | piercing shots the one one |
| 9637s | um excuse me |
| 9639s | this is |
| 9641s | nine damage on board rajnan |
| 9643s | 10 11 12 13 14 plus hero powers just 16 |
| 9647s | so he needs something good from piercing |
| 9649s | hull |
| 9651s | i don't think that's good enough |
| 9655s | at least |
| 9656s | because it costs mana yeah |
| 9661s | however pressure on orange on my |
| 9664s | but can habu survive if he trades away |
| 9667s | the one one |
| 9669s | and the other one one from the other |
| 9670s | wound prey he's playing just to deny |
| 9672s | piercing shot targets |
| 9675s | so if it's the two three let's say |
| 9678s | okay let's work out the other way so |
| 9680s | quick shot is uh power two quick shots |
| 9682s | another |
| 9683s | five that's seven next is another four |
| 9685s | that's eleven |
| 9687s | so piercing shot would be two more from |
| 9689s | the hero power the piercing shot needs |
| 9691s | to do two if i've added it up right so |
| 9693s | the three four snakes should be enough |
| 9694s | but |
| 9695s | exactly so i'm not comfortable with my |
| 9698s | counting |
| 9699s | three four six |
| 9702s | eleven |
| 9703s | no i think you're absolutely right |
| 9705s | orange has it he sees it right away he |
| 9707s | counted it last turn |
| 9708s | man that was a really close one the |
| 9710s | quest hunter mirror has so many micro |
| 9712s | calculations you saw habu struggling |
| 9714s | there at the best way to set up a lethal |
| 9717s | and also prevent piercing shot targets |
| 9719s | but in the end orange saw the lines he |
| 9722s | played the tavish early |
| 9724s | made sure that he could get there in the |
| 9726s | end and it's orange moving on |
| 9729s | to our top four |
| 9732s | and every single orange series i've |
| 9735s | watched this year has been exhausting |
| 9738s | like that it just seems to go the |
| 9740s | distance all the time seems to be |
| 9743s | so many decisions that make so much |
| 9745s | difference and |
| 9748s | this time around he is coming out on top |
| 9749s | of all of those small decisions and yeah |
| 9753s | takes it three two |
| 9755s | and that's only his second match of the |
| 9757s | day if he's going to win this tournament |
| 9758s | he's got two more of those to go through |
| 9760s | jia |
| 9761s | oh it's already been such a gauntlet |
| 9763s | maybe because we cast two series back to |
| 9765s | back but i mean i would not fault |
| 9767s | anybody for needing to take a breather |
| 9769s | after that one for habukabu a |
| 9772s | heartbreaker he also came so close in |
| 9774s | the last masters tour and he did so well |
| 9777s | in the swiss he was the one who went |
| 9778s | undefeated but unlike the first two |
| 9780s | masters tours of the year lorenda it is |
| 9783s | not the player who goes perfect and |
| 9785s | swiss that wins the tournament |
| 9788s | yep it's the first time but i do believe |
| 9790s | it is more than likely and i'm in the |
| 9792s | raven boat i've never said anything's |
| 9794s | official that habu will be at the |
| 9796s | seasonal championships so we will be |
| 9799s | able to see a lot more of him not just |
| 9800s | on his streams but in these competitive |
| 9802s | plays |
| 9803s | remember he's only really been properly |
| 9806s | competitive for what a year a year and a |
| 9808s | half the rest of the time he's just |
| 9809s | casually ranked one legend |
| 9811s | you know so |
| 9813s | he's only taken this seriously for a |
| 9815s | fairly short amount of time and he's |
| 9817s | making these quarter-finals and |
| 9818s | championship events we will see a lot |
| 9820s | more of him for a long time to come |
| 9823s | definitely so a player of that caliber |
| 9826s | we have a lot more that we can see them |
| 9829s | i think they have a lot more to offer as |
| 9831s | well but so does this bracket lorenda we |
| 9833s | still have three more quarter finals to |
| 9836s | decide |
| 9837s | one of those matches containing no less |
| 9839s | than the reigning world champion this is |
| 9842s | such a stacked top eight going into it |
| 9844s | and we'll see who is going to join |
| 9846s | orange in the semi-finals very shortly |
| 9849s | yep and with that in mind once again |
| 9851s | gonna do the thing where i just go hey |
| 9853s | you don't see me anymore so let's get me |
| 9855s | out of here and we'll get on with the |
| 9857s | second quarter final right after this |
| 9859s | break |
| 9862s | [Music] |
| 9868s | [Music] |
| 9911s | oh |
| 9916s | [Music] |
| 9937s | [Music] |
| 9950s | [Applause] |
| 9951s | [Music] |
| 9975s | so |
| 9985s | [Music] |
| 10005s | [Music] |
| 10055s | hello everyone and welcome back to |
| 10057s | masters tours voyage to the sunken city |
| 10060s | uh i'm still reeling from that last |
| 10062s | match honestly subtle because that was a |
| 10064s | tense one between uh honestly two of the |
| 10066s | best players we have in the european |
| 10068s | region so that was an incredibly tense |
| 10070s | match but we've got plenty more coming |
| 10072s | up for you as we are going to continue |
| 10074s | with our top eight but uh have you been |
| 10076s | enjoying the day so far subtle it feels |
| 10078s | like we've had a lot happen in a |
| 10080s | relatively short amount of time |
| 10082s | yeah it's been really awesome i think |
| 10084s | again derek popped up in discord camera |
| 10086s | with his yesterday or this morning time |
| 10088s | con tends to blur together when you are |
| 10090s | working at such weird hours uh for a |
| 10092s | supposedly european region event um but |
| 10095s | he said that he phrased it as this was a |
| 10097s | strictly illegal top 16 and i think that |
| 10100s | is entirely true because the quality of |
| 10102s | player that we had in here obviously |
| 10104s | when you usually get to a top 16 the |
| 10106s | quality of player there is going to be |
| 10108s | of a high standard because they made top |
| 10109s | 16 in a masters tour but i think um you |
| 10112s | know just bias in terms of i suppose |
| 10114s | recency buyers players that you're aware |
| 10116s | of right you when you see those come in |
| 10118s | there and you know for a fact that they |
| 10121s | are good players because they have |
| 10122s | proven it already that kind of adds that |
| 10124s | extra element of excitement i think |
| 10126s | that's absolutely what we've got here |
| 10127s | with this top 16. and the the habu gabu |
| 10130s | versus orange match which was kind of |
| 10132s | the headliner going into the top eight |
| 10134s | matches i think certainly did not |
| 10136s | disappoint there was a fantastic series |
| 10138s | overall yeah even though anyone making |
| 10140s | it to top 16 can obviously handle |
| 10142s | themselves as a hearthstone player there |
| 10144s | is a bit of a difference when you see |
| 10146s | players that have consistently or many |
| 10148s | times made it to these hot you know ends |
| 10150s | of tournaments like time and time again |
| 10153s | you know such as orange so uh these are |
| 10155s | the place we're gonna dive into next |
| 10157s | it's gonna be at vk msbc and sabito here |
| 10161s | and uh msbc the only chinese play we |
| 10164s | have unless i'm going crazy in the top |
| 10167s | eight and i think top 16 as well which |
| 10169s | is quite the rarity in recent master |
| 10172s | star history subtle so i imagine he's uh |
| 10175s | feeling the the pressure on his |
| 10176s | shoulders right now as representing the |
| 10178s | chinese region alone yeah and we've got |
| 10181s | a little background on msbc courtesy of |
| 10184s | uh bennett one of our china |
| 10185s | correspondents that very helpfully feeds |
| 10187s | his information in situations like this |
| 10189s | we were told that he's a player that's |
| 10191s | grown in terms of competitive mindset |
| 10193s | recently has kind of grown into his own |
| 10195s | skin as a player that plays on camera |
| 10197s | which is something that does tend to |
| 10198s | take a few reps for uh many players to |
| 10201s | achieve |
| 10202s | saying that way way back when he first |
| 10204s | got on camera he realized that he'd |
| 10206s | forgot to put baku in one of his odd |
| 10207s | decks and then just insta conceded which |
| 10209s | is something that i can sympathize |
| 10212s | having played uh secret mage in a major |
| 10215s | uk tournament uh forgetting to put any |
| 10218s | secrets in it but i did have two mad |
| 10220s | scientists in there so i played a lot of |
| 10222s | vanilla tutus on turn two tempo play |
| 10224s | right two two one |
| 10226s | but because i am a literal god i still |
| 10229s | topped that tournament even though my |
| 10231s | decklits were utter trash |
| 10233s | here we are though looking at |
| 10235s | mage is going to be kicking it off with |
| 10237s | it is the naga mage but it does have |
| 10239s | that additional pink package in there |
| 10242s | with the magista dawn grasp the modrash |
| 10244s | of course |
| 10246s | as well as a little bit of help from a |
| 10248s | brand and reckless apprentice and this |
| 10250s | is a tough one and i have been playing a |
| 10252s | good chunk of naga mage over the last 24 |
| 10255s | hours like the other lisa oranges list |
| 10257s | specifically and and just you know just |
| 10259s | getting more and more reps in because it |
| 10261s | is a deck i think you need to be |
| 10262s | comfortable with uh when you're playing |
| 10264s | a lot of it but this i have lost to this |
| 10267s | deck plenty of times on ladder as well |
| 10268s | and i |
| 10270s | i'm definitely not saying this deck is |
| 10271s | better but it does have certain values |
| 10274s | right it's less straightforward in i |
| 10277s | make my naga pop off turn time and time |
| 10279s | again it has other routes to go and yes |
| 10282s | that naturally means that your naga |
| 10284s | turns aren't as consistently for example |
| 10287s | early and they're repeatable in any |
| 10290s | given game but it does give you some of |
| 10291s | those other options and maybe to help |
| 10293s | finish out games against slightly more |
| 10295s | control style decks and when you have |
| 10297s | those high ping damage the 10 damage |
| 10299s | from hand with more dress and such so i |
| 10301s | am interested to see more of this list |
| 10303s | and honestly to fast forward maybe a |
| 10305s | couple of weeks to see which list |
| 10307s | actually ends up on top |
| 10310s | yeah same i don't know if you remember |
| 10311s | when we did that uh theory casting event |
| 10314s | that we did for the the pre-release you |
| 10316s | know event for the expansion when we |
| 10317s | were watching a whole bunch of naga mage |
| 10320s | and we saw both kind of the straight |
| 10322s | ahead version that orange and habuka are |
| 10324s | playing and a bit of the ping mage as |
| 10325s | well obviously not the refined list that |
| 10327s | we're looking at now but the early days |
| 10329s | of those decks and you asked me the |
| 10330s | question when as we were coming towards |
| 10332s | the end of the day like if one of these |
| 10334s | naga mages is going to be good which one |
| 10335s | do you think it is and my theory back |
| 10337s | then was that it was going to be the |
| 10339s | ping variation because it felt like |
| 10342s | there wasn't enough gas in the |
| 10344s | straight-up naga mage to be able to just |
| 10346s | go infinite right which is felt like |
| 10348s | what you wanted to be able to do |
| 10350s | continually play card draw cards over |
| 10352s | and over again go all the way through |
| 10353s | your deck start playing ignites |
| 10355s | immediately that felt like what the win |
| 10357s | condition was going to be for the |
| 10358s | straight up naga mage but it turned out |
| 10360s | obviously just those massive boards that |
| 10362s | you're able to make board turn after |
| 10365s | turn were good enough to get there and |
| 10367s | it does seem at least so far |
| 10370s | that the straight up naga mage is |
| 10371s | proving to be a little more successful |
| 10374s | however i could still be proven to be |
| 10376s | right if at the end of it all the |
| 10378s | masters tour winner is flying the flag |
| 10380s | for naga ping mage and maybe that'll see |
| 10383s | the the scales tip a little bit further |
| 10385s | in the other direction because as |
| 10387s | mentioned you know it does seem to have |
| 10389s | a little bit more resiliency more of a |
| 10391s | plan b i suppose is the best way to put |
| 10393s | it um and i'm very interested to see how |
| 10396s | it pans out because certainly i think |
| 10398s | um in in western hearthstone |
| 10401s | the bias is massively towards the |
| 10404s | regular naga mage i would say because |
| 10406s | that's what players are doing well with |
| 10408s | and that's sometimes what happens right |
| 10410s | is the the successful players latch on |
| 10412s | to a particular style of deck and then |
| 10414s | you get this kind of reinforced bias |
| 10416s | where |
| 10417s | the players are in top 10 legend are |
| 10419s | playing a certain version of the deck |
| 10421s | because they're the really good players |
| 10423s | right and they're the ones that are |
| 10424s | starting to play with a particular deck |
| 10426s | and when you move over to a different |
| 10427s | region you can sometimes flip that on |
| 10429s | its head i don't personally think that |
| 10431s | is the case i do think the straight up |
| 10433s | naga mage is a superior version but you |
| 10435s | also have to consider even further this |
| 10437s | is conquest it's not just as easy as |
| 10439s | well which is the straight up better |
| 10441s | version of the deck it's which tool fits |
| 10443s | in your toolbox the best for what you're |
| 10445s | trying to do in the tournament yeah i do |
| 10447s | think you are right though it's |
| 10448s | something that i'd happily call the uh |
| 10450s | the habu gabu effect which is i'm pretty |
| 10452s | sure he can just put any 30 cards in any |
| 10455s | class and be like yeah rank one legend |
| 10457s | you know for example when he's just |
| 10458s | jamming games and he has that effect on |
| 10460s | whichever game mode he plays as well so |
| 10463s | uh yeah always going to be wary that yes |
| 10465s | is how good how much of the win rate is |
| 10467s | the player being extremely good at the |
| 10469s | game versus the deck being a you know |
| 10472s | sort of isolated strong deck in the |
| 10474s | current meta and we did just see uh some |
| 10477s | kind of disconnection issue right at the |
| 10478s | beginning so we are just making sure the |
| 10481s | players are sorted with that uh one |
| 10483s | thing we didn't really get the chance to |
| 10484s | talk about because guess what we like to |
| 10486s | just talk a lot about players and naga |
| 10488s | mage by the sounds of it uh is the match |
| 10490s | up the naga mage versus paladin and |
| 10492s | specifically the uh one of the sort of |
| 10495s | fewer control paladins we've seen i feel |
| 10497s | like we've seen a lot of mech piled in |
| 10499s | on stream at least uh but it's gonna be |
| 10501s | sabito on this control paladin and |
| 10505s | what are the big differences in this |
| 10506s | matchup like is control powder going to |
| 10508s | be able to just push back with the likes |
| 10511s | of just having access to simply equality |
| 10513s | for a start uh or is the mage still |
| 10516s | likely to be able to just overpower the |
| 10518s | paladin |
| 10519s | yeah and i think that's a one of the |
| 10522s | the situations where the plan b comes |
| 10524s | into effect right because control |
| 10527s | paladin is not one of the decks where |
| 10529s | you can just go turn five spite lash pop |
| 10532s | off draw a bunch of cards play a bunch |
| 10534s | of nagas a few two fives maybe a five |
| 10536s | five and some two threes on board and |
| 10538s | then cool i've won the game i've just |
| 10540s | out tempored my opponent the game's over |
| 10542s | paladin has tools to deal with that with |
| 10544s | pyromancer equality city tax stalling |
| 10546s | with holy mackey roll all of that good |
| 10549s | stuff moving into carrio as we get later |
| 10551s | on in the game obviously so having the |
| 10553s | ability to have that plan b to go longer |
| 10555s | to start the value train with bran and |
| 10557s | some of the various other cards that you |
| 10559s | have thrown in there as well i think is |
| 10561s | perhaps to its benefit in this |
| 10563s | particular matchup and i'm very |
| 10564s | interested to see if that will end up |
| 10566s | being the case yeah it looks like we are |
| 10567s | getting back in but it is interesting |
| 10569s | right because there's no viper in this |
| 10571s | mage list so the carrier weapon will |
| 10573s | just stick right but as you mentioned |
| 10577s | when you potentially with dawngrass |
| 10578s | pinging for five maybe six a turn even |
| 10581s | with the carrier weapon that's still |
| 10583s | better than a hunter hero power right so |
| 10585s | it's still gonna stack damage every |
| 10588s | single turn and we've seen some |
| 10590s | disgusting bran and reckless apprentice |
| 10592s | plays as well to really pop off with |
| 10594s | some damage but disconnection issues are |
| 10597s | resolved and we are good to go with game |
| 10599s | number one second match in top a msbc on |
| 10602s | the top on the mage and sabito uh sabato |
| 10605s | and sabito sorry on the control piled in |
| 10608s | i'll get there eventually |
| 10613s | it's uh it's sabito rhymes with |
| 10615s | despacito that's that's oh |
| 10617s | that's how i'll remember it going |
| 10619s | forward definitely |
| 10622s | already though got carriol in hand which |
| 10625s | i think uh |
| 10627s | it's just a great start yes it's a seven |
| 10629s | cost card but i think it's piled in if |
| 10630s | you've ever sat with carrial in hand |
| 10633s | you're probably feeling a lot more |
| 10635s | confident about the game overall |
| 10637s | yeah i think so too to the point where |
| 10638s | it's just a mulligan keep and a lot of |
| 10640s | matches as well um but yeah you kind of |
| 10642s | gloss past it but a card i did want to |
| 10644s | draw a little bit of attention to is the |
| 10645s | one of uh banana man in sabito's deck |
| 10648s | which is i would say a little bit |
| 10649s | unusual in control paladin um very spell |
| 10653s | heavy deck right between the city taxes |
| 10655s | equalities flash of lights holy mackey |
| 10657s | roll uh things that you'll discover from |
| 10659s | uh battle vicar as well so it's a little |
| 10662s | bit minion light but you can kind of |
| 10664s | create the argument that with a smaller |
| 10666s | pool of minions bannerman is just a |
| 10668s | tutor effect to specifically draw one of |
| 10671s | those minions kind of has a kind of |
| 10673s | interesting effect but a very |
| 10675s | different card being used in a different |
| 10677s | way than we see um banana man being used |
| 10679s | in a in like mech paladin for example |
| 10681s | where it's landing on an entire handful |
| 10683s | of me right |
| 10686s | yeah i think uh the |
| 10688s | as it's been for the long time uh i |
| 10690s | think card draws but always the |
| 10692s | potential downfall of paladin uh it's |
| 10694s | why like even flash of light like flash |
| 10696s | of light yeah it's it's a fine card it's |
| 10699s | not the best card but it's two mana |
| 10701s | drawer cart right and it activates some |
| 10703s | sort of holy synergies as well which |
| 10705s | helps so even though it's not the best |
| 10707s | card in the deck it cycles itself and |
| 10710s | heals you |
| 10711s | fine perfect like that's good enough in |
| 10713s | this list and already now |
| 10715s | the uh three flash of lights in total |
| 10718s | available one just being played of |
| 10719s | course um and the statues as well uh are |
| 10723s | pretty beefy the fact that they can |
| 10724s | often be combined |
| 10726s | with a garden's grace turn which i think |
| 10728s | makes it very very powerful indeed |
| 10731s | and now we will see msbc setting up |
| 10734s | spitelash is in hand nuggling now coming |
| 10736s | off the school teacher as well a little |
| 10739s | bit light on spells which can sometimes |
| 10742s | be the issue with this version of the |
| 10744s | deck uh hand does tend to fill up with |
| 10746s | minions because there are a good uh |
| 10748s | especially like non naga minions right |
| 10750s | which is sometimes where you can get |
| 10752s | choked |
| 10753s | when you're having your pop-off turns |
| 10754s | but that gift of ashara is now looking |
| 10757s | very nice indeed and i'm sure there will |
| 10759s | be no hesitation |
| 10762s | raven when i say naga you say |
| 10765s | well |
| 10767s | naga |
| 10768s | hell |
| 10768s | gaga oh |
| 10770s | thank you thanks for playing ah always |
| 10774s | here though again the nargling you |
| 10776s | mentioned uh uh the other one drop here |
| 10778s | but nargling always a key piece i think |
| 10781s | when you play this list if you have |
| 10782s | school teacher and spite lash you're |
| 10785s | feeling great about this game of |
| 10786s | hearthstone right because it's just such |
| 10788s | a natural progression uh with this |
| 10791s | pop-off turn but you are right it does |
| 10793s | look um |
| 10794s | likely i would say that if this spike |
| 10797s | lash dies uh it there probably isn't |
| 10800s | instantly gonna be another naga pop-off |
| 10802s | turn which is uh |
| 10804s | the the main difference between the two |
| 10806s | versions of the naga mage |
| 10808s | come on nagas okay there's one he that |
| 10810s | he was running into that problem right |
| 10812s | hand congested full of minions but none |
| 10814s | of them ending up being nagas and that's |
| 10815s | naga discover into cheap naga discover |
| 10818s | gifts of ashara can go again an extra |
| 10821s | coin was uh found off the savara which |
| 10823s | of course ended up being massive in this |
| 10825s | situation as well |
| 10827s | and he's just looks like he's going to |
| 10828s | end off this term with the reckless |
| 10830s | apprentice to clear up the board and |
| 10831s | juice that more dress a little bit very |
| 10833s | clean turn yeah it's something i really |
| 10836s | keep my eye on on these uh these naga |
| 10838s | mage pop off turns is how comfortable |
| 10841s | the player looks doing it right for |
| 10843s | example levick we saw yesterday |
| 10846s | looked like he could do it in his sleep |
| 10848s | which was very impressive just the whole |
| 10849s | turn back to back were very very strong |
| 10851s | indeed and msbc i think had a very very |
| 10854s | solid turn as well so looking good so |
| 10856s | far sabito of course does respond as you |
| 10859s | would expect to control piled into |
| 10861s | equality some kind of aoe go away big |
| 10864s | board but as we've talked a lot about |
| 10866s | right there's already modresh there |
| 10868s | there's another reckless apprentice and |
| 10871s | no doubt with simply nine cards left in |
| 10873s | the deck that dawn grasp is going to be |
| 10875s | active in the very very near future as |
| 10878s | well |
| 10878s | yes indeed |
| 10885s | just drops the arcane intellect at the |
| 10886s | end of the turn does of course have that |
| 10887s | second spite lash remaining but with uh |
| 10890s | minimal value left in the deck uh the |
| 10892s | second spite lash is going to be i would |
| 10894s | say less impactful than the first |
| 10896s | ariel gonna come down here just send the |
| 10898s | signal over to the opponent like yep |
| 10900s | you're gonna have to play hard mode this |
| 10902s | game no easy first win through top eight |
| 10905s | for you here you are gonna have to |
| 10907s | absolutely do this the hard way |
| 10911s | i think the big question now for msbc |
| 10913s | is what is this brand for |
| 10916s | i think that is the the big question |
| 10918s | that needs answering because you are |
| 10920s | probably going to need a value train at |
| 10922s | some point over the course of the game |
| 10923s | with the way this is going at the moment |
| 10925s | so what exactly are you going to choose |
| 10927s | to drop this brand on to try and get it |
| 10929s | [Music] |
| 10930s | well there's two good cards in hand |
| 10932s | right spell discover times two in |
| 10933s | amalgam times two and that looks like it |
| 10936s | could be good enough to me but it's of |
| 10939s | course reliant on msbc being okay with a |
| 10942s | weaker turn now because obviously he |
| 10943s | didn't have the mana to do so and he |
| 10945s | already committed the spy lash so just |
| 10947s | choosing where he wants to go with this |
| 10949s | turn if he's just going to go for the |
| 10950s | refill i was going to ask you what you |
| 10953s | thought about carryall on exactly that |
| 10955s | turn |
| 10956s | because immortalized plus gardens grace |
| 10959s | was available |
| 10962s | sorry extra savara ends up being massive |
| 10965s | there yeah to answer your question i do |
| 10967s | i i |
| 10968s | i get what you're saying but at the same |
| 10970s | time |
| 10971s | um i do think it's hard to read exactly |
| 10974s | when huge bursts of damage are gonna |
| 10976s | come out from the opponent in this deck |
| 10977s | right and particularly when when there's |
| 10980s | various discover effects and so on going |
| 10982s | on so i do think just as a matter of |
| 10984s | safety just securing your health total |
| 10986s | with the carrier as early as possible |
| 10987s | does make sense and i think with the |
| 10989s | pyro draw it worked out very well |
| 10991s | because now this pyro equality statues |
| 10994s | gardens grace |
| 10995s | if he wants it this turn right so he can |
| 10998s | still uh you know pop off with a lot and |
| 11000s | sort of flip the board in his favor |
| 11004s | it looks like he is going pyro mackie |
| 11006s | roll here to preserve the equality which |
| 11009s | uh will result in a slightly lower tempo |
| 11012s | turn than he might have otherwise been |
| 11014s | able to have because he has to spend |
| 11015s | significantly more mana on the ball but |
| 11017s | i think that is absolutely fine for the |
| 11020s | price of uh preserving the equality yep |
| 11023s | the |
| 11024s | like weird downside to this play is that |
| 11028s | he isn't using the holy mackey role to |
| 11030s | actually heal a lot of health on himself |
| 11033s | uh with the weapon basically being stuck |
| 11035s | there forever unless |
| 11037s | it's like amalgam onto amalgam discover |
| 11041s | a viper which can happen um it's likely |
| 11045s | that he's gonna have this weapon for the |
| 11046s | rest of the game so it's then again |
| 11048s | likely that you could potentially even |
| 11050s | do like uh you know upwards of eight |
| 11051s | nine ten man and mackie roll for more |
| 11053s | overall health but he does get to clear |
| 11055s | the board but here is dawn grasp and now |
| 11058s | although msbc is clearly running they're |
| 11060s | going to be running very long cards this |
| 11063s | damage like it's not to be ignored even |
| 11065s | you know currently at three |
| 11067s | it does have the um the buff as well to |
| 11069s | the hero power in hand so there's still |
| 11072s | a lot of damage that can get pumped out |
| 11074s | even through the weapon |
| 11075s | yeah a little bit of a whiff though |
| 11077s | hitting the second flame as opposed to |
| 11080s | the wildfire which is obviously the |
| 11081s | absolute best target in this scenario |
| 11084s | he i imagine he picked a minion |
| 11089s | i would expect to have seen minion here |
| 11092s | yeah that seems more likely yeah |
| 11094s | expectations on guess what flurries in |
| 11097s | the deck second flame first flame you |
| 11098s | know there's so many cheap cards and |
| 11100s | spell wise that |
| 11102s | msbc would would love to just pay one |
| 11105s | mana or maybe even zero mana depending |
| 11107s | on his uh his point of view to just |
| 11109s | forget about the effect that the blade |
| 11111s | master kenny has |
| 11112s | i'm not sure how many spells are |
| 11114s | currently in that savara but it might |
| 11116s | theoretically make this turn rather |
| 11118s | awkward for msbc in terms of you know he |
| 11121s | wants to test for the |
| 11123s | call it a counter spell from the okani |
| 11125s | but at the same time he's trying to |
| 11126s | think about his savara |
| 11128s | gets the news |
| 11130s | he's going to be minion why do you think |
| 11131s | this zola's going to sit do you think |
| 11134s | it's going to be a school teacher zola |
| 11135s | or maybe even a nagaling zola depending |
| 11137s | on what's offered of course |
| 11140s | [Music] |
| 11142s | very interesting indeed willingly throws |
| 11148s | to drop the school teacher and i suppose |
| 11151s | that kind of answers your question yeah |
| 11153s | never mind throw away that |
| 11155s | like that |
| 11159s | oh wow |
| 11164s | so reckless apprentice zola is what he's |
| 11166s | looking for he's i think |
| 11168s | i think the big brain play play mode |
| 11171s | dress assume it will not die yeah sure |
| 11175s | i think at this point he's juiced out |
| 11176s | right he understands he's facing down |
| 11178s | carol on the other side this is not |
| 11180s | going to work particularly well so he's |
| 11183s | trying to just play for the out where |
| 11184s | his opponent does something quite dumb |
| 11187s | and that's you know leaving multiple |
| 11188s | minions on board that can be like |
| 11191s | honorably killed by reckless apprentice |
| 11193s | multiple times over you can really start |
| 11195s | to juice up that hero power but yeah i |
| 11197s | just don't think that is going to be a |
| 11199s | realistic win condition from here |
| 11203s | hey well sabito |
| 11206s | needs to kill this mild trash and he can |
| 11208s | very easily now especially with the |
| 11210s | leviathan pickup |
| 11211s | yep love this |
| 11213s | drop the city tax as well |
| 11216s | pick up that little bit of healing make |
| 11217s | sure you are taking all relevant damage |
| 11219s | off the board |
| 11221s | and also remove some potentially |
| 11222s | devastating targets for zola right as |
| 11225s | well because even the nargling again the |
| 11228s | um the school teacher again from the |
| 11230s | zola i would argue could potentially end |
| 11232s | up being more damage than another |
| 11234s | apprentice so |
| 11236s | msbc now has his zoll options completely |
| 11238s | removed and will have to be reckless |
| 11250s | does get one juice on the reckless |
| 11252s | apprentice from the five health |
| 11253s | leviathan which is perhaps a bit |
| 11255s | something sabito could have thought |
| 11256s | about previously maybe the uh the pyro |
| 11259s | equality clear or the equality city tax |
| 11261s | clear would have worked out slightly |
| 11262s | better just not to put that honorable |
| 11264s | kill minion uh straight back into play |
| 11267s | but i still think it is going to be |
| 11270s | borderline irrelevant from this position |
| 11272s | yep holy mackie roll number two and then |
| 11274s | there is still the smite i believe right |
| 11277s | and as you well know sull that's the way |
| 11279s | paladin wins |
| 11281s | oh yeah every game of hearthstone that |
| 11282s | paladin has ever won has come through uh |
| 11285s | five or six hero powers landing on a mr |
| 11287s | smite |
| 11288s | a minute how many hero powers have |
| 11289s | landed on pyro right |
| 11292s | what attack is this pyro just tempo it |
| 11295s | it's got a double righteous defense as |
| 11297s | well i think over the course of the game |
| 11299s | so it is really juicing right now |
| 11305s | all part of me wants to just see a huge |
| 11307s | board played by msbc so sabito has to |
| 11311s | you know i've been in those spots where |
| 11312s | you have a buffed pyro and you still |
| 11314s | have to equality if you have no other |
| 11315s | options it's very painful |
| 11317s | hey |
| 11318s | there's the hero power on the mr smite |
| 11322s | how much damage is that now |
| 11325s | it's it's close to lethal right with the |
| 11327s | fatigue |
| 11329s | uh am i well yeah i'm not 20. it's 20 in |
| 11333s | hand yeah i don't think the fatigue's on |
| 11334s | five just yet it must be four then right |
| 11338s | oh yeah maybe then with the weapon swing |
| 11340s | as well this actually just was lethal |
| 11341s | this time yeah i'm excited now to see |
| 11343s | what the lethal count was because i |
| 11345s | thought it was five but okay it's four |
| 11347s | fine yeah |
| 11350s | but this might got buffed by the hero |
| 11352s | power right so yeah but n plus two fives |
| 11355s | is 20 so it would have been at once plus |
| 11357s | the weapon swing |
| 11358s | he did swing with the weapon he swung |
| 11360s | already yes yeah he already strung with |
| 11361s | the weapon but regardless uh sabita was |
| 11364s | in a great spot there and even though |
| 11367s | msbc had some strong turns and that is |
| 11370s | the the issue when the control padding |
| 11372s | gets hold of the card draw like we saw |
| 11374s | right it there was never a point where |
| 11377s | sabito was running low on cards and had |
| 11379s | equalities nice and early had multiple |
| 11381s | ways to proc them and clear boards nice |
| 11383s | and early and even though i think msbc |
| 11386s | did well with his turns |
| 11388s | it's got outlasted right it's just as |
| 11390s | simple as that with no viper to kill off |
| 11392s | the weapon and also as well i just want |
| 11395s | to triple check but the big factor here |
| 11397s | is it's reliant on the pings but there's |
| 11400s | also no ignite right which is again |
| 11402s | another |
| 11403s | typical source of damage in the other |
| 11405s | naga lists |
| 11406s | yeah absolutely you can see when it gets |
| 11408s | down to that super late game position uh |
| 11411s | that it really doesn't have an ultimate |
| 11414s | win condition in the way that ignite can |
| 11416s | be for some other decks also obviously |
| 11417s | against carry all ignite still takes |
| 11420s | forever yeah the job done and you can |
| 11422s | kind of account for the |
| 11423s | the magister hero power kind of doing |
| 11426s | the same thing as ignite would be doing |
| 11427s | anyway kind of that one source of two |
| 11430s | mana for scaling damage over the course |
| 11432s | of the game right which is kind of the |
| 11433s | argument that you would make but |
| 11435s | particularly i think when your opponent |
| 11437s | catches on to that as sabito did |
| 11439s | certainly from the turn after leviathan |
| 11442s | onwards you could maybe have the |
| 11443s | argument about whether that leviathan |
| 11446s | play could have ever been punished i |
| 11447s | don't really think it could have i think |
| 11449s | the extra dredging card draw is probably |
| 11451s | worth the trade-off in that position |
| 11453s | but certainly then after that point |
| 11455s | statues weren't getting played right |
| 11456s | like there was just a huge dump of stats |
| 11458s | that could have been played on the board |
| 11459s | even with the zero mana divine shield |
| 11461s | spells as well that just was not done at |
| 11464s | all uh because he knew if he just sat |
| 11466s | there healed up cleared the board played |
| 11468s | his city taxes played his mackie rolls |
| 11470s | and that msbc was just going to die to |
| 11473s | fatigue before anything relevant |
| 11475s | happened |
| 11476s | yeah and looks like sabito is going to |
| 11477s | be jumping onto the fell demon hunter |
| 11480s | not the usual aggressive one we've been |
| 11482s | seeing for most of the weekend |
| 11484s | and an interesting list as well for me |
| 11486s | personally so i think that |
| 11488s | it's difficult for me to look at any |
| 11490s | other demon hunter that isn't just the |
| 11492s | aggro or the naga demon hunter whatever |
| 11494s | you want to call it |
| 11495s | and think it can ever be better but as |
| 11497s | you mentioned we're in a tournament |
| 11499s | setting we're in a conquest setting |
| 11501s | right so it doesn't necessarily mean the |
| 11503s | best overall deck is the best |
| 11506s | but i think in this instance it is for |
| 11507s | me so we'll see how the fell demon enter |
| 11510s | can perform it's obviously done well to |
| 11511s | get into top eight for a start |
| 11513s | yeah i do like this list i i do still |
| 11515s | like the naga version a little bit more |
| 11518s | but i i do like glaive shark as a card i |
| 11520s | do still think that having jace and |
| 11523s | kirtris as endgame win conditions golden |
| 11526s | times helps you out in a couple of spots |
| 11528s | i do still take issue with the fact that |
| 11530s | people are just jamming chaos nova in |
| 11532s | this list like fairly commonly these |
| 11534s | days i think we've seen two copies of it |
| 11536s | even in some people's lists throughout |
| 11537s | this tournament |
| 11539s | and i think you know you've known me a |
| 11541s | long time at this point raven |
| 11543s | would say too long |
| 11545s | there you go um but you know this is a |
| 11548s | pet peeve of mine you're going all the |
| 11549s | way back in the day people who put |
| 11551s | hellfire in zoo and i'm i just never |
| 11554s | spoke to them again |
| 11556s | and it's just such a weird idea to me |
| 11559s | that you're playing a board-based deck |
| 11561s | and then you still want to have a |
| 11562s | symmetrical aoe effect in your deck it |
| 11564s | just makes absolutely no sense to me |
| 11566s | whatsoever i do of course understand |
| 11569s | that chaos nova is a fantastic card |
| 11571s | against some of the match-ups for |
| 11573s | example naga mage on the other side |
| 11575s | where you are going to struggle to deal |
| 11577s | with their big pop-off turns as they |
| 11579s | tempo past you in the early game also |
| 11582s | very useful on the actual jace turns to |
| 11584s | clear out boards before uh fell barrages |
| 11587s | and things like that start going off i i |
| 11588s | understand there are upsides but for me |
| 11591s | ever i would |
| 11593s | try this i mean i wouldn't try this to |
| 11595s | start but theoretically i would try this |
| 11598s | i'd play a one two three curve and then |
| 11600s | i'd draw chaos nova off the top and then |
| 11601s | i would immediately concede and take |
| 11603s | that card out of my deck every single |
| 11605s | time yeah i can imagine you uh and you |
| 11607s | know what impression it will be by |
| 11608s | exactly saying |
| 11610s | isn't that cute but it's wrong uh about |
| 11613s | chaos though i imagine that you saw |
| 11615s | perfectly about a lot of these wee |
| 11618s | choices in as you said board-based decks |
| 11620s | but we are into the game number two and |
| 11622s | we'll see how it goes msbc looking to |
| 11624s | honestly not do much different from the |
| 11627s | previous game apart from with it i think |
| 11630s | is key here because i think he did well |
| 11632s | he just went against the paladin that |
| 11634s | had the board clears and there aren't |
| 11636s | many decks that do have relevant board |
| 11638s | players against naga mage so did run |
| 11640s | into one of the more tough match-ups in |
| 11642s | this series |
| 11644s | yeah for sure it's very hard for any |
| 11646s | deck to have really the sustain to get |
| 11649s | past control paladin when they draw like |
| 11651s | that smooth early game curve terms of |
| 11653s | card draw tons of healing carry all on |
| 11655s | seven very very difficult to beat um and |
| 11658s | even though we said that naga mage does |
| 11661s | have a plan b it's not it is just a plan |
| 11664s | b right like to beat control paladin in |
| 11666s | the long game you need a plan c and a |
| 11668s | plan d and a plan e as well and msbc did |
| 11671s | his best but i think he only got as far |
| 11672s | as c before he ran out of ideas and |
| 11675s | control paladin is is gonna take it down |
| 11676s | in that situation nine times that ten |
| 11679s | yeah if it was truly that powerful it |
| 11680s | would be plan a right so |
| 11682s | it just makes sense it looks like msbc |
| 11685s | is going to pop off he does have the one |
| 11689s | drop available to do so did it does |
| 11691s | utilize the coin in |
| 11694s | arguably a non-optimal way but you can |
| 11696s | just say it's more optimal to do this on |
| 11698s | turn four instead of turn five anyway so |
| 11700s | uh yeah it looks good enough to me uh |
| 11702s | generally in any deck especially a deck |
| 11704s | that runs removal the earlier you can |
| 11707s | make a seven minion board the better |
| 11710s | yeah and i think it's obviously down to |
| 11713s | the context of your hand right yes he |
| 11716s | burned the coin but his hand was one |
| 11718s | mana naga double gift and a fully intact |
| 11722s | first flame as well so his type of |
| 11724s | potential was enormous from that point |
| 11727s | the only thing you could maybe argue is |
| 11730s | it would be nice to see a minion on the |
| 11731s | other side of the board and you were |
| 11732s | seeing why that is right now with this |
| 11735s | exact setup at the hand uh second flame |
| 11738s | even just still costing one too much |
| 11740s | mana in this situation uh for what msbc |
| 11743s | uh really wants to do to keep going on |
| 11745s | this term and you also just see what you |
| 11747s | have to deal with if you run this |
| 11749s | version right there's a reckless |
| 11750s | apprentice and a moderation in the hand |
| 11753s | if those were naga it was very likely |
| 11755s | that msbc could have potentially carried |
| 11757s | on the turn so and not to say he's wrong |
| 11760s | for bringing the list obviously he's got |
| 11761s | very far but it's just the sort of uh |
| 11764s | ups and downs you deal with with |
| 11766s | different builds |
| 11767s | yeah uh one thing i do want to highlight |
| 11769s | by the way it does feel like a very um |
| 11772s | new wave zoomer european grand masters |
| 11774s | match that we're casting right now by |
| 11775s | the way it certainly has some bly's |
| 11777s | frenetic vibes in terms of the speed |
| 11779s | these players are playing at but one |
| 11780s | thing i do want to highlight in the |
| 11782s | middle of that naga turn was that msbc |
| 11785s | took build a snowman over |
| 11787s | the um |
| 11789s | first flame that was offered which you |
| 11791s | would think first flame kind of a |
| 11792s | premium card to clean up a lot of these |
| 11794s | minions that you are looking at on the |
| 11795s | other side uh from the demon hunter but |
| 11797s | he chose to go with the uh persistent |
| 11799s | freezing effect instead which is very |
| 11801s | interesting indeed |
| 11803s | i like it though because at this point |
| 11805s | in most demon hunter games all the |
| 11808s | damage is coming from swings to face |
| 11809s | right i mean you just saw then if he |
| 11811s | could have frozen phase like |
| 11814s | sabito just hit a minion and killed it |
| 11816s | and pushed five and then swung again |
| 11818s | right so you got you got to just push so |
| 11820s | much damage because the the demon to |
| 11823s | can't keep swinging so i think snowman |
| 11825s | not a terrible pick i think the biggest |
| 11827s | question is does msbc survive long |
| 11830s | enough for it to even be relevant |
| 11832s | because |
| 11833s | maybe |
| 11834s | with the two predations used it's way |
| 11837s | more likely of course but the 3-3 |
| 11840s | generally i never rely on sticking i |
| 11842s | normally play it to try and get to the |
| 11844s | 6-6 right but speaking of which |
| 11847s | uh he went double first flame for |
| 11849s | removal and then with three mana |
| 11851s | remaining he chose to play arcane |
| 11853s | intellect as opposed to dropping the |
| 11854s | builder snowman which i think was |
| 11855s | planning just to juice up with this |
| 11857s | bigger turn |
| 11859s | with the uh spitlash summoner but i |
| 11861s | think the question there is if you wait |
| 11863s | one more term without putting the freeze |
| 11865s | effect in play that would need to get |
| 11867s | dealt with do you actually have enough |
| 11869s | health to play with to make this second |
| 11871s | spite summon a term relevant uh |
| 11873s | certainly now with a treasure guard you |
| 11876s | might argue that yes you |
| 11878s | yeah and also i think this is going to |
| 11880s | be a school teacher into ice barrier |
| 11882s | potential plan here as well not this |
| 11884s | turn of course but |
| 11885s | i think that's what msbc would very much |
| 11888s | like to see in the near future |
| 11894s | there it is the strictly best card in |
| 11896s | the deck |
| 11897s | oh no |
| 11898s | that's insane |
| 11903s | all right it's gonna hold yeah i like |
| 11904s | the hold set this up for next turn |
| 11909s | just let msbc do whatever he wants this |
| 11912s | turn and deal with it next time oh yeah |
| 11918s | i've got too much of the other weapon on |
| 11920s | the brain i was like that was lethal but |
| 11921s | i realized he's got our dracut wall |
| 11923s | blades and not the other one |
| 11925s | yeah yeah |
| 11928s | finally a dominion appears on the other |
| 11930s | side of the board for the flurry to be |
| 11931s | able to hit |
| 11936s | i'll get barry |
| 11940s | refreshing spring water is the pickup |
| 11943s | they are on naga so this spring water |
| 11946s | could gain a ludicrous amount of mana |
| 11948s | and does |
| 11949s | could also trade off and play the big |
| 11951s | snowman right |
| 11957s | like he may have bigger plans |
| 11960s | bigger plans than the big snowman |
| 11964s | well it's the medium snowman to be fair |
| 11966s | if we were talking about the big snowman |
| 11970s | and that's a different story |
| 11979s | okay it's a lot done |
| 11984s | chaos nova might well come into play now |
| 11987s | subtle |
| 11988s | it might well indeed |
| 11992s | doesn't do five though does it |
| 12004s | and again the earlier predations being |
| 12006s | used like limits the sort of |
| 12009s | throwaway removal tools that aren't |
| 12011s | exactly the weapon |
| 12013s | does have multi-strike which is a big |
| 12014s | deal as well gets to push a ton of |
| 12016s | damage |
| 12020s | i mean it's not the greatest showcase |
| 12023s | for chaos nova is it it's an entire full |
| 12026s | board of seven minions and it's still |
| 12028s | not being played |
| 12031s | uh |
| 12032s | i'll i'll play the other side of this |
| 12034s | soul |
| 12035s | yeah it's not played because sabito puts |
| 12038s | his opponent to three instead |
| 12041s | uh-huh is that fair |
| 12042s | if chaos nova was a card that did three |
| 12045s | damage instead of a chaos well if chaos |
| 12047s | nova was a card that did a hundred |
| 12049s | damage it would be better as well i |
| 12050s | suppose but you know what it isn't okay |
| 12059s | not active yet |
| 12062s | so msbc doesn't have the ability to uh |
| 12065s | really push max damage this turn right |
| 12067s | just blast away the air the minions and |
| 12069s | keep pushing with their his board too |
| 12073s | but honestly |
| 12076s | what are the ways here i guess |
| 12079s | gase |
| 12080s | is the best draw for him because if his |
| 12083s | face is frozen |
| 12088s | we're doing long ways to actually just |
| 12089s | like deal the damage to face right to |
| 12091s | end the game that is very true |
| 12097s | [Music] |
| 12100s | i am still even though i am making fun |
| 12102s | of the card a little bit surprised that |
| 12104s | chaos nova hasn't been played over the |
| 12105s | past couple of turns because now we are |
| 12107s | in that situation where that snowman |
| 12109s | does get to attack |
| 12111s | and and again just as much on the other |
| 12113s | side i'm still surprised that just |
| 12115s | something wasn't taken off the board to |
| 12117s | play them |
| 12121s | and just |
| 12123s | no longer frozen for he is sabito |
| 12126s | instead and that means he does get to |
| 12129s | attack face for that final three damage |
| 12132s | if that card was in hand right if the |
| 12134s | kurdras hero card was in hand then 100 i |
| 12137s | would support the line he took because |
| 12138s | it was almost guaranteed lethal from |
| 12141s | that position even if uh further taunts |
| 12143s | were coming down uh even potentially |
| 12145s | through an ice barrier as well because |
| 12147s | there's enough mana to be able to attack |
| 12148s | with the rush minions and juice the hero |
| 12150s | power even more off the resets yeah sure |
| 12153s | if that would have ended up getting |
| 12154s | through like that seemed like a very |
| 12156s | guaranteed setup but it did feel like a |
| 12159s | a high risk line that he went for um |
| 12162s | choosing to to leave up the snowman on |
| 12165s | board and kind of removing all of his |
| 12167s | potential damage for the following term |
| 12168s | but in the end curtras came off the top |
| 12171s | and demon hunter in its many forms |
| 12174s | continues to be a formidable deck or |
| 12176s | clash should i say and i feel like demon |
| 12178s | hunter will never not be strong i feel |
| 12180s | like he's been destroyed strong class in |
| 12182s | the meta since its release a few years |
| 12185s | ago at this point and now msbc is |
| 12188s | massively on the back foot i believe now |
| 12192s | sabito has |
| 12194s | his druid was his warrior band sorry i'm |
| 12197s | uh i've misplaced my ban list |
| 12201s | i don't actually have the tracking sheet |
| 12202s | open either raven for that is usually |
| 12204s | your job |
| 12208s | wait it's not on the tracking sheet |
| 12210s | officially not my fault perfect it's the |
| 12212s | druid band he does have the warrior okay |
| 12214s | yes i thought there was a druid band but |
| 12216s | yeah it wouldn't have made sense so just |
| 12217s | his warrior left over with now it is the |
| 12220s | control warrior air but fortunately the |
| 12223s | demon has been banned away so he won't |
| 12224s | get a loss on his control warrior to |
| 12226s | that in this series so he's got to be |
| 12228s | feeling confident now um now you know |
| 12231s | kind of jokes aside at this point from |
| 12232s | what we've seen this weekend subtle how |
| 12235s | have you felt about control warrior from |
| 12237s | everything we've seen at least on stream |
| 12238s | so far |
| 12240s | i've actually been impressed by it it's |
| 12242s | been stonks up for me honestly i came |
| 12245s | into the tournament thinking |
| 12247s | it beats demon hunter does it |
| 12249s | convincingly convincingly really be |
| 12251s | anything else to me it felt kind of |
| 12253s | potentially targetable as well um with |
| 12256s | some other decks that you can throw in |
| 12257s | there like i i hate to sort of echo any |
| 12261s | sentiment that comes out of neil |
| 12262s | larinder bond but you know the idea of |
| 12264s | some super heavy mech lineup with uh |
| 12267s | mech powder and mech mage or that kind |
| 12269s | of stuff thrown in there high value |
| 12271s | infinite reload aggro deck |
| 12274s | um thrown in to try and counter control |
| 12276s | warriors seem like something that might |
| 12277s | work but the more i see of control |
| 12279s | warrior the more i think that that is |
| 12281s | actually impossible because the deck is |
| 12284s | far too flexible and it really was a gap |
| 12286s | in my knowledge when i was doing my you |
| 12288s | know my fake prep for this tournament |
| 12289s | trying to come up with what i what i |
| 12291s | would bring to the tournament as a |
| 12293s | player is that i did not put enough time |
| 12295s | into control warrior to really |
| 12296s | understand |
| 12298s | how flexible of a well-conditioned deck |
| 12300s | it is with all the dredges and and |
| 12302s | various tempo options that you can find |
| 12304s | from the bottom of your deck on |
| 12305s | discounted cards you don't just have to |
| 12308s | play |
| 12308s | sit back and remove everything your |
| 12310s | opponent plays you can actually grab |
| 12312s | tempo in a lot of match-ups and that's |
| 12314s | where that plan falls down i think i was |
| 12316s | saying this the other day where it's i |
| 12318s | almost feel like it's a disservice to |
| 12319s | call it control warrior it feels way |
| 12322s | more just like a value warrior than |
| 12323s | anything else because when you actually |
| 12325s | look at the list |
| 12327s | yeah there's some removal tools but it's |
| 12329s | not the majority of the deck by any |
| 12332s | means like i think what you said is |
| 12333s | right like to share volume of ways to |
| 12336s | win the game is huge especially in this |
| 12338s | list from sabito and and i think that's |
| 12340s | the the strength of the deck yes there's |
| 12342s | removal but it doesn't just sit back and |
| 12345s | remove minions all game right it does |
| 12347s | have a lot of proactive things to do to |
| 12349s | actually take over |
| 12352s | that's one of them sir spindly |
| 12354s | yes indeed |
| 12363s | do you think this is a matchup where |
| 12365s | plan b is useful yet again uh because |
| 12369s | although i was just talking about how |
| 12370s | it's not all removable the warrior |
| 12372s | removal does line up very well versus |
| 12375s | naga mage |
| 12377s | yeah certainly i think |
| 12380s | normal naga mage play your stuff get |
| 12382s | broad and then have to reset back to |
| 12385s | trying to draw extremely heavily |
| 12387s | uh with multicaster and so on from that |
| 12389s | point because i don't think that um |
| 12392s | regular naga mage just straight up loses |
| 12394s | to control warrior if you get broad on |
| 12395s | turn five after you've had your pop off |
| 12397s | um you know if you've played |
| 12399s | three total copies of gift and arcane |
| 12402s | intellect during that pop-off turn |
| 12404s | you're probably deep enough in your deck |
| 12405s | that you can start thinking about and |
| 12407s | ignite wing condition at that point |
| 12408s | anyway with your multi-casters so i |
| 12410s | think there are there are still ways to |
| 12412s | win the game for sure um and still with |
| 12414s | the amount of kind of regeneration and |
| 12416s | zola and discover effects and so on you |
| 12418s | can find enough value to keep occupying |
| 12420s | the board |
| 12421s | but i do think this version of the deck |
| 12423s | of course with the brand thrown in there |
| 12424s | i think you know if you want to be a |
| 12426s | straight up control deck bran is |
| 12428s | probably the best individual card that |
| 12430s | you can throw into most decks in the |
| 12432s | meta game right now like even if you're |
| 12434s | just running amalgam right it just gives |
| 12436s | you so much extra value over the course |
| 12438s | of the game i do think this has you know |
| 12440s | maybe both decks have a plan b going |
| 12442s | back to the earlier analogy but um the |
| 12445s | ping mage is better at finding perhaps a |
| 12447s | plan c and a plan d if you get down |
| 12449s | there not to mention that they also have |
| 12451s | the tools to be able to deal with you |
| 12454s | know discounted early nearly right that |
| 12456s | comes down on the board and then big |
| 12457s | board of pirates comes out they actually |
| 12459s | have the tools to be able to clear that |
| 12460s | up quite effectively |
| 12465s | it's going to be the |
| 12467s | hero power to clear off the school |
| 12469s | teacher i did not see what was picked |
| 12471s | for the nargling but maybe we'll find |
| 12472s | out soon |
| 12480s | veto has uh |
| 12482s | missed |
| 12483s | the early ishm |
| 12489s | yes from the depths thank you uh wow |
| 12491s | that they saw's better at card names |
| 12492s | than me oh scared um but yeah it's |
| 12495s | missed the early uh early from the |
| 12497s | depths to really make this finley shine |
| 12499s | we're not going to see any truly broken |
| 12501s | early turns like this super cheap you |
| 12504s | know ricara nessie so on so i'm gonna |
| 12507s | speaking of which i'm not gonna say that |
| 12509s | quite yet but now suddenly does have a |
| 12511s | fairly aggressive curve in general a |
| 12513s | little bit unfortunate there's no coin |
| 12515s | so everything seems like a seven drop |
| 12518s | right now and obviously you can only |
| 12519s | play one seven drop on seven so he's |
| 12522s | gonna take it a little bit slower than |
| 12523s | he would like but still he's ahead on |
| 12525s | board |
| 12526s | ice barrier ended up being the pickup |
| 12528s | off msbc's nargling here by the way |
| 12530s | which is a little bit surprising again |
| 12532s | that was up against build a snowman yet |
| 12534s | again which is another massively high |
| 12536s | value card that he could have |
| 12537s | potentially picked up as well as a lot |
| 12539s | of board state being generated |
| 12540s | immediately but i do think you have to |
| 12542s | be careful taking build a snowman when |
| 12545s | you're going into a spike lash turn |
| 12547s | because it's minus one board space which |
| 12549s | is a big big deal right when you get |
| 12550s | into these kind of spots and it's also |
| 12552s | minus one hand space when you get into |
| 12554s | these spots as well which can be a big |
| 12555s | big deal so that might be uh part of the |
| 12557s | motivation for the decision |
| 12561s | get some nice card draw again just all |
| 12564s | the value is there |
| 12566s | but it is a worry you can get into right |
| 12568s | and very similar to what we saw in the |
| 12570s | piled in match up earlier in this match |
| 12572s | is the |
| 12573s | the rate in which naga mage cycles |
| 12575s | through its deck is very fast but then |
| 12578s | fatigue becomes a real factor because |
| 12580s | the sustain from warriors we've seen |
| 12582s | already this weekend it has the |
| 12584s | potential to be like through the roof |
| 12589s | extra wildfire found extra spike lash |
| 12591s | found as well just gonna drop that |
| 12593s | wildfire just gonna follow up with the |
| 12595s | ping |
| 12596s | i love all of this and uh yeah just |
| 12598s | going back to my point about snowman uh |
| 12600s | seven minions on board right now so you |
| 12602s | wouldn't have won that board space being |
| 12603s | used and also after the savara was |
| 12605s | played there was exactly 10 cards in |
| 12607s | hand which means there would not have |
| 12608s | been enough space for the savara had |
| 12610s | there been an extra copy of the uh the |
| 12612s | 666 snowman in hand at that point so |
| 12615s | just illustrating that uh point |
| 12617s | perfectly msbc had that all perfectly |
| 12619s | calculated |
| 12621s | and |
| 12623s | a very |
| 12624s | very slow turn here from sabito and |
| 12627s | this is one of the reasons why i have |
| 12630s | multiple times now mentioned that |
| 12633s | cornick control warrior is you know fine |
| 12635s | but but also not strictly true in my |
| 12638s | opinion because look how many things |
| 12640s | safito has that are not removable in his |
| 12643s | hand right now and all but the nagaling |
| 12645s | are just cards in the deck so we'll |
| 12647s | really be looking for a brawl a shield |
| 12650s | chatter just anything to stop msbc |
| 12653s | having just free reign on this board |
| 12658s | is double spite lashing this turn |
| 12661s | infinite illegal amounts of mana |
| 12665s | it was a little bit difficult the uh the |
| 12666s | first time you do this to work out |
| 12667s | exactly what's going to happen how it's |
| 12669s | going to happen but generally they will |
| 12670s | start desynced for one iteration of |
| 12673s | either naga or spell and then as soon as |
| 12675s | you |
| 12676s | miss once on one of them they then get |
| 12678s | perfectly synced up |
| 12679s | for the rest of the turn kind of by |
| 12681s | default |
| 12682s | yep but it's simply one doesn't change |
| 12684s | on the first thing you do and the other |
| 12685s | one does therefore they're both equal at |
| 12687s | that point exactly |
| 12689s | looks like he's just going to call it a |
| 12691s | day on the dawn grasp |
| 12693s | but yeah that was it's a weird problem |
| 12696s | to have but board space was an issue |
| 12698s | with him really popping off that turn |
| 12700s | but hey that's good because he gets the |
| 12702s | hit face |
| 12703s | it's the wildfire as well not sure if |
| 12705s | any uh first flame second flames have |
| 12707s | even been cast over the course of this |
| 12709s | game |
| 12710s | but either way does fine |
| 12715s | he uh much needed a wildfire frozen |
| 12716s | buckler was the mystery noggling all |
| 12719s | along |
| 12720s | the prices started with shield slam |
| 12726s | the hand space yeah i mean there you go |
| 12728s | that's the card he was really looking |
| 12729s | for so as long as he got a shield |
| 12731s | shatter loses the from the depths but |
| 12734s | at this point he's already drawn the |
| 12736s | majority of the best cards you have from |
| 12738s | from the depths anyway so yeah gotta be |
| 12741s | happy with that |
| 12746s | and now here we are four cards remaining |
| 12748s | in msbc's deck opponent at 47. |
| 12751s | i love the way this equation |
| 12753s | i love the way this wildfire hero power |
| 12756s | gets you know even a new mode dress |
| 12758s | would probably be very close to being |
| 12760s | active |
| 12761s | with just the one hero power from |
| 12762s | dunkirk he just one shot it should |
| 12765s | generate a brand new more trash boom |
| 12767s | done |
| 12769s | ready |
| 12772s | such a nice change for this style of |
| 12773s | deck though right when wildfire wording |
| 12775s | was changed so they affected all hero |
| 12777s | powers over the course yes |
| 12779s | current hero power so so crucial |
| 12783s | and just most importantly way more fun |
| 12786s | as the don grass player right because |
| 12788s | it's just cool to like work on building |
| 12790s | up the hero power and really be rewarded |
| 12792s | with it in the late game |
| 12794s | look at that a casual eight |
| 12803s | hey |
| 12808s | i was honestly looking at how i get yeah |
| 12811s | he was a turn away never mind |
| 12815s | i was staring at bran mutinis and was |
| 12816s | like why is he not doing this and i |
| 12818s | looked nine mana that's a fair reason |
| 12820s | okay |
| 12821s | you got me |
| 12822s | understandable doesn't mean though with |
| 12824s | the way his hand looked before he played |
| 12826s | spindly the |
| 12828s | the rest of his deck was pretty much the |
| 12830s | armor gain and remove all right because |
| 12832s | everything else he had in his original |
| 12834s | hand was all the value in aggressive |
| 12836s | minions |
| 12839s | choosing to leave the 3-5 up here as |
| 12841s | well had an option to remove it perhaps |
| 12842s | with the onyxian drake |
| 12844s | instead valuing that from the depths |
| 12846s | really wanting to try and see some tempo |
| 12848s | in a few turns time |
| 12850s | did see the discounted brand down there |
| 12852s | which now could be a very big deal |
| 12858s | does still have heavy play and then |
| 12860s | nixon drake for the kill on the modric |
| 12862s | guaranteed if required |
| 12865s | yeah |
| 12867s | yes let's be honest after last turn he |
| 12869s | knows it's active i was 16 |
| 12878s | i'm a long way who was it was it walmart |
| 12880s | who brought ping mage to grand masters |
| 12882s | for that one week oh yeah and ended up |
| 12884s | winning the tournament yeah |
| 12886s | yeah the deck has come a long long way |
| 12889s | oh here we go |
| 12892s | anybody |
| 12895s | imagine the first one was buckler |
| 12897s | yeah this is oh |
| 12898s | it's disgusting |
| 12900s | yep |
| 12915s | it's still so weird for me to look at |
| 12916s | the brand nargling frozen buckler |
| 12918s | interaction |
| 12919s | it's like on one hand it's a cup half |
| 12922s | full or half empty isn't it i gained 20 |
| 12924s | armor but it's like but i lose 10. |
| 12927s | i'm losing more armor |
| 12929s | brands doubled the amount of armor i'm |
| 12931s | losing |
| 12934s | absolute jerk |
| 12937s | take me job me |
| 12942s | so when you play an amalgam in |
| 12943s | battlegrounds you already have uh seven |
| 12945s | and brown just gives the the amalgadon |
| 12947s | torn you know oh come on |
| 12950s | anything but this yeah |
| 12954s | it looks like a solid modrash |
| 12959s | you'll say no to this board pushes next |
| 12962s | to three as well |
| 12964s | your board of seven minions stands no |
| 12966s | chance against this epic guitar solo |
| 12972s | sbc could have actually even just not |
| 12974s | attacked there |
| 12982s | now at this point in the game |
| 12986s | how do you think sabito will at least |
| 12989s | plan to use queen ashara because most |
| 12991s | commonly we see the colossal or the |
| 12994s | spells i think i guess there's the uh |
| 12996s | the ring as well but |
| 12998s | it's a bit of a tough one here when you |
| 12999s | consider well kazakhstan will probably |
| 13001s | want to be played soon |
| 13003s | will a sort of random colossal do enough |
| 13007s | it's a tough decision i think with queen |
| 13008s | ashara |
| 13010s | yeah i think so too i do think one mana |
| 13013s | colossal is still probably the most |
| 13015s | likely there are situations where maybe |
| 13017s | the weapon comes into play because msbc |
| 13020s | is facing fatigue damage now very |
| 13022s | shortly |
| 13023s | um but honestly it might just even be a |
| 13025s | card in general |
| 13027s | that cevito just does not have time to |
| 13029s | play over the course of the game with |
| 13031s | the amount of pressure that's going to |
| 13032s | continue to be heaped on him |
| 13038s | i love this pickup |
| 13040s | this ruiner the archmage if all else |
| 13042s | fails let's just go |
| 13045s | two more reckless apprentice to just |
| 13047s | obliterate boards |
| 13053s | [Music] |
| 13056s | polymorph rune what a collection of |
| 13058s | cards this is yeah |
| 13061s | i think mass polymorph was a really good |
| 13062s | pick obviously yeah i think it's |
| 13064s | sensible |
| 13067s | because if kazakhstan comes down it's a |
| 13069s | really great tool to deal with a lot of |
| 13071s | the board-based aggression |
| 13077s | just more frozen buckler |
| 13087s | really axe first over |
| 13090s | trading the heavy play first is |
| 13092s | interesting |
| 13094s | impossible |
| 13096s | just dead just dead |
| 13098s | it was just too much and again you see |
| 13101s | the um |
| 13102s | [Music] |
| 13103s | i'm not gonna say strict upside there |
| 13105s | because again we we can't really talk |
| 13107s | about it with uh versus ignite because |
| 13110s | you just don't know how the ignites are |
| 13111s | going to play out how much card draws |
| 13113s | going to be left at the end to sort of |
| 13114s | keep cycling like a single ignite most |
| 13117s | of the time but look at the sheer power |
| 13119s | that those that ate damage from the hero |
| 13121s | power just time and time and time again |
| 13124s | there was multiple air frozen buckler |
| 13126s | effects played a lot of armor gained |
| 13128s | across the course of the game and it |
| 13129s | just didn't really matter it didn't help |
| 13132s | i think that sabito |
| 13134s | didn't get from the depths early then he |
| 13136s | drew all his sort of value-based minions |
| 13139s | and not the removal and they switched |
| 13141s | the deck to have the removal but then |
| 13142s | didn't have the board presence it's a |
| 13144s | little bit of a tricky game but you see |
| 13146s | at least there an example of the power |
| 13148s | of that version of the naga mage in |
| 13150s | these slower match-ups the damage is |
| 13152s | just simply relentless |
| 13155s | yeah and you saw there that thought that |
| 13156s | from the depths game burned which you |
| 13158s | know i think might actually end up being |
| 13159s | more relevant than perhaps you gave it |
| 13161s | credit for initially because |
| 13163s | the pure survival plan just never really |
| 13166s | looked like it was going to get right |
| 13168s | from sabito right so it feels like the |
| 13170s | kind of match up where you know one of |
| 13172s | those inventive win conditions that i |
| 13174s | was talking about as we led into the |
| 13175s | matchup just might have been more the |
| 13178s | order of the day and those all come |
| 13180s | generally from from the depths you saw |
| 13183s | later on uh sabito prioritizing very |
| 13186s | heavily just jamming that uh that from |
| 13190s | the depths that he drew later instead of |
| 13191s | just clearing a three-five on board when |
| 13193s | you know obviously pressure and eight |
| 13195s | damage hero power was making his his |
| 13196s | health total premium but he still took |
| 13199s | the time to leave that minion up and |
| 13200s | just play from the depths to generate |
| 13202s | some kind of wing condition for himself |
| 13203s | so likely that that is something that |
| 13206s | you need to do and suddenly |
| 13208s | we are starting to see uh msbc's lineup |
| 13212s | coming together just a little bit |
| 13214s | because you know i |
| 13216s | raven just just don't can we just agree |
| 13219s | that you just don't at this point but |
| 13221s | i'm going to say some words and just |
| 13222s | don't okay |
| 13224s | you can't possibly say that msbc is |
| 13227s | playing a target warrior lineup because |
| 13229s | he has demon hunter in his lineup |
| 13231s | himself uh however the the having this |
| 13235s | boar priest and the uh super greedy |
| 13238s | version of ping mage as well does give |
| 13240s | him at the very least some good matchups |
| 13243s | against control warrior gives him the |
| 13244s | luxury of being able to leave that deck |
| 13246s | up on the other side yeah it's pretty |
| 13248s | interesting as well that the boar priest |
| 13251s | itself uh |
| 13252s | i was promised would be dominating this |
| 13254s | tournament and at least i have not |
| 13256s | personally witnessed the domination as |
| 13259s | of yet uh but yeah it's it's definitely |
| 13261s | a good match up here and and why do you |
| 13264s | think ball priest at least again from |
| 13266s | what i've been seeing hasn't really been |
| 13268s | a a highlight deck is it just the amount |
| 13271s | of aggro lineups we've been seeing |
| 13273s | uh well i can give you a clue um there's |
| 13276s | 48 win rate in the entire swiss out of |
| 13280s | 800 games uh 65 against warrior cool |
| 13283s | like that's job one that you want to |
| 13284s | send |
| 13285s | 30 against druids that's a problem you |
| 13290s | need a better way you need a better win |
| 13292s | rate than that against druid i think in |
| 13294s | particular like that match up isn't |
| 13296s | amazing on either side but i think the |
| 13298s | best boar priest players will tell you |
| 13300s | that you are supposed to do better than |
| 13301s | 30 percent match up again |
| 13304s | um so that is probably a big cause of |
| 13306s | the you know the sub 50 win rate overall |
| 13310s | makes sense but yeah this match up here |
| 13313s | things normally have to go quite wrong |
| 13316s | for the priest |
| 13318s | for this to be a struggle i think the |
| 13320s | case i've seen at least in my experience |
| 13322s | the most is that warrior gets like from |
| 13324s | the depths and then starts pumping out |
| 13326s | the minion pressure and then that can be |
| 13328s | pretty difficult to push back on if you |
| 13330s | don't have exactly you know heal x |
| 13333s | amount plus xyrella nice and early |
| 13336s | yeah but even then the number one scam |
| 13339s | that comes from from the depths is super |
| 13342s | early nelly or a brand boat right when |
| 13345s | you just yet boat all over your opponent |
| 13347s | jardin the naaru is just perfectly |
| 13350s | equipped to be able to deal with that |
| 13351s | situation so the the train of cheap |
| 13353s | pirates just never leaves the station uh |
| 13356s | as long as you can get one of those win |
| 13357s | conditions on board or is just the best |
| 13359s | thing to just from the depths of the |
| 13360s | mutant as a pig |
| 13363s | i mean yeah that could help for sure |
| 13366s | certainly slow down your opponent |
| 13367s | significantly |
| 13377s | you love the tempo brand though i think |
| 13379s | that it's just a very very strong play |
| 13381s | helps of course that he has school |
| 13383s | teacher to follow it up but this brand |
| 13385s | is so unlikely to die that it's just |
| 13389s | worth it even |
| 13390s | you know even if there wasn't an |
| 13392s | immediately powerful card to follow up |
| 13394s | with i think you can rely on the brand |
| 13396s | just living for a long time anyway i'm |
| 13399s | just gonna triple check msbc's list |
| 13402s | yeah he isn't running a holy smite that |
| 13404s | i've seen some players run like even |
| 13406s | though one of just to give it a little |
| 13407s | bit more defense against some of the uh |
| 13409s | aggro so yeah it's just it's just not |
| 13411s | gonna die realistically is it |
| 13413s | i think that makes sense i i don't |
| 13416s | mind the holy smite list if you're you |
| 13418s | know kind of a bit further down on |
| 13420s | ladder because what i'd say is the holy |
| 13421s | smite is good against some of the bad |
| 13424s | decks it's good against mage pirate |
| 13426s | warrior mech paladin those kind of |
| 13427s | things um but i think when you come into |
| 13430s | a tournament meta you're expecting to |
| 13431s | see less of those things and more tell |
| 13434s | that to all the mech mage and mech |
| 13435s | powder players i mean yeah very very |
| 13437s | true tell that to lorinda specifically |
| 13440s | yeah just call him up uh i think coming |
| 13444s | into this you're expecting to see more |
| 13445s | of the control warrior um |
| 13448s | and druid type decks where you know |
| 13450s | what's a holy smite going to do in most |
| 13451s | of those matchups |
| 13452s | yeah so i think that was heavy play and |
| 13454s | they from the depths |
| 13461s | [Music] |
| 13463s | who wins an army of pigs or one spinny |
| 13467s | boy raven |
| 13468s | i mean the answer is always the spinny |
| 13471s | boy yeah oh my that is so as soon as i |
| 13475s | saw from the depths on off right with |
| 13477s | the brand just chilling on board i was |
| 13479s | like my god that is insane oh |
| 13483s | no and one of those other cards i think |
| 13486s | was nelly rights that's a one man in |
| 13488s | there was it really i didn't yeah he's |
| 13490s | second from the depths from the |
| 13491s | obviously the bran effect was a one man |
| 13493s | and nelly |
| 13499s | zaster with a capital d |
| 13502s | this is exactly what i was talking about |
| 13504s | right tempo brand on three trust that it |
| 13508s | sticks |
| 13509s | land your school teacher that is a |
| 13511s | creative alternate wing condition that |
| 13513s | he's found in a matchup that he's |
| 13515s | usually going to lose and now he's just |
| 13517s | brand boating |
| 13519s | yeah and i do just want to mention as |
| 13521s | well uh if people are confused the |
| 13524s | second from the depths did not offer the |
| 13526s | spindly which is uh obviously which is |
| 13529s | why he hasn't drawn it now if anyone's |
| 13531s | just a little bit confused we were |
| 13532s | hyping up spindly and it's not been |
| 13534s | drawn it's because finley was from the |
| 13536s | first and it's the next card now he will |
| 13538s | draw it next turn yeah yeah yeah it's |
| 13540s | just i think it would have been easy to |
| 13542s | just |
| 13543s | miss that you know with the bran effect |
| 13544s | of course but yeah it's still extremely |
| 13547s | strong turn here from uh from uh sabito |
| 13551s | and and this is the way yeah you can |
| 13552s | lose there it is perfect |
| 13560s | run there just look how smoky looks just |
| 13562s | chuckling yeah i'm back |
| 13564s | you miss me |
| 13568s | um |
| 13570s | yeah |
| 13571s | not sure you entirely planned this one |
| 13574s | forever |
| 13578s | it's i can't i can't imagine he intended |
| 13582s | for that to happen right i can't |
| 13583s | possibly |
| 13587s | wait |
| 13594s | i don't know what's happened there |
| 13596s | because |
| 13597s | i could see the argument for clearing |
| 13600s | the board if it kills the ship right |
| 13603s | yeah |
| 13604s | pirates |
| 13606s | he has a smite in there as well like he |
| 13607s | absolutely has a smite in there so |
| 13608s | that's totally fine but it it didn't |
| 13612s | but |
| 13613s | it did not |
| 13615s | uh wow there's no silence but there is |
| 13618s | hand maiden |
| 13620s | right |
| 13622s | a big deal as well is he just gonna go |
| 13624s | cleric heal okay |
| 13634s | what is happening |
| 13636s | hey okay |
| 13640s | phil doesn't get it |
| 13642s | does he |
| 13644s | wait can he not shuffle first or is he |
| 13646s | gonna go okay he's gonna play the nag |
| 13648s | he's gonna go pre-step arcade and stuff |
| 13649s | yeah |
| 13650s | absolutely two copies there's two copies |
| 13653s | yeah that's right that's what we are |
| 13655s | like oh that was there wasn't it okay |
| 13657s | all right |
| 13658s | there |
| 13661s | this |
| 13664s | turned into a |
| 13665s | bit of a mess |
| 13667s | it sure did |
| 13674s | oh i think there could be more minions |
| 13676s | on this board so |
| 13679s | yeah and i think the turn started off |
| 13680s | with the the bran finley interaction |
| 13683s | which i was initially confused about |
| 13686s | because obviously i don't think you ever |
| 13688s | want that battle cry to go off twice in |
| 13690s | that position right you want all the |
| 13691s | cheap cards that are on the bottom of |
| 13692s | the deck so |
| 13694s | i'm not sure if sabito knew that was |
| 13695s | going to happen i i don't think he did |
| 13698s | and then what followed was just |
| 13700s | infinitely more baffling |
| 13702s | yeah i can |
| 13706s | to an extent with the rope burning |
| 13709s | i can understand |
| 13710s | playing finley and then go oh wait |
| 13713s | oh no you know like i can understand |
| 13716s | that but the shield shatter at the end |
| 13718s | just uh is definitely throwing me off |
| 13721s | yeah |
| 13723s | and now msbc just needs to |
| 13726s | keep on top of this right i think he's |
| 13728s | had a very fortunate outcome of how this |
| 13730s | game has played out based on if we asked |
| 13732s | that question a few turns ago |
| 13734s | and now he just needs to get back in the |
| 13736s | mindset of okay all the broken things |
| 13739s | that could have happened now haven't or |
| 13742s | have been answered |
| 13743s | let's get back to |
| 13744s | making some pigs |
| 13747s | let's get back to making some pigs |
| 13762s | depito is marching his way up this armor |
| 13765s | count though don't think he's gonna get |
| 13766s | to 90 anytime soon but |
| 13778s | yeah i'm wondering now if |
| 13781s | i mean i guess the trade would just |
| 13783s | happen i'm looking at this onyxia brood |
| 13785s | mother and wondering if that's |
| 13787s | you know a solid way to try and stick |
| 13790s | something because just because the balls |
| 13792s | go off with the weapon doesn't mean you |
| 13794s | ought to win any game of hearthstone it |
| 13797s | does not just say win the game uh if you |
| 13799s | build a ball that they can't answer on |
| 13801s | that turn then either they take a turn |
| 13803s | off to answer it if they can and if they |
| 13804s | just can't answer it you can try and |
| 13806s | race the weapon right like it happens |
| 13808s | i'm even with no mana as long as you can |
| 13810s | build up a relevant board but that's the |
| 13813s | big question like can sabito |
| 13815s | put something on board that's either |
| 13817s | sticky or just strong enough |
| 13819s | to force msbc to wait or to try and race |
| 13822s | with the weapon |
| 13824s | and the answer to that question unless |
| 13825s | there is something spectacular from this |
| 13827s | amalgam is a definitive |
| 13829s | no because it is happening next turn now |
| 13832s | the only piece that msbc has been |
| 13834s | missing uh apart from that shot of the |
| 13836s | daru which was a pretty crucial piece |
| 13838s | he's been missing the entire time uh but |
| 13840s | the only other piece he's been missing |
| 13841s | this entire time was the second ball |
| 13843s | which was just then found on the the |
| 13845s | following term that was a good effort |
| 13847s | though it was it could have swapped the |
| 13849s | brawl right with an amulet yep |
| 13854s | would delay by one turn yeah |
| 13858s | try good try |
| 13859s | yep respect it |
| 13865s | it is also of course a taunt minion |
| 13867s | which does theoretically gain 15 |
| 13870s | if msbc was going to want to do it now |
| 13884s | he could take a turn off can he he |
| 13886s | doesn't have to go now |
| 13888s | i can't think at this point of any |
| 13892s | punishes especially with bran gun |
| 13898s | well the question is does the board just |
| 13900s | keep getting getting bigger from this |
| 13901s | position if you don't do it right now |
| 13904s | because you know there are discovered |
| 13905s | cards in your opponent's hand as you |
| 13907s | were talking about the anixia being able |
| 13909s | to be played on the following turn so do |
| 13911s | you just lose that window if you don't |
| 13913s | do it now i think |
| 13915s | again it's difficult because i'm staring |
| 13917s | at both in ixias right |
| 13919s | but |
| 13920s | the pyro deals with a raid boss |
| 13923s | and then you just kill the 88 with the |
| 13925s | weapon swing one |
| 13927s | and then you find right that would be |
| 13929s | the assumption uh it's if the board has |
| 13931s | like a variety of different you know |
| 13933s | like wide minions that don't die to pyro |
| 13936s | i think exactly either of the anixias is |
| 13939s | the easiest thing for msbc to deal with |
| 13941s | on the turn |
| 13947s | yeah if you still had a bran we could |
| 13948s | talk about what |
| 13951s | impact mutinous with bran eating like |
| 13954s | double pyro could make but again it |
| 13957s | doesn't stop the combo it just slows it |
| 13959s | down a little bit yeah just delaying |
| 13961s | tactics at that point but delaying |
| 13963s | tactics are better than nothing at this |
| 13965s | point yeah they're better than just i'm |
| 13966s | dead so |
| 13968s | almost out of cards |
| 13977s | and he's doing this sort of piece by |
| 13979s | piece isn't he yep |
| 13981s | even now he can actually clear with |
| 13982s | zyrella if he really wanted to |
| 13987s | as well as play more pigs |
| 14007s | looking at using the shadow word devour |
| 14009s | here which |
| 14011s | finding a little surprising |
| 14014s | all right just go to silence |
| 14017s | okay fair enough |
| 14020s | that's two |
| 14022s | he's still |
| 14023s | the cyrilla would have cleared there |
| 14024s | right and just put a 4 on the board |
| 14027s | uh well so using the gift healed the |
| 14030s | three seven back up to a three seven |
| 14032s | right so he would have had to have found |
| 14034s | seven healing which he didn't have |
| 14036s | without using the desperate prayer |
| 14041s | yeah |
| 14042s | i think he would have been fine with all |
| 14043s | the healing he did with the gift but |
| 14045s | yeah regardless oh no that's true yeah |
| 14047s | obviously because the gift is counting |
| 14048s | the healing on the minions |
| 14052s | msbc takes the win though and again it |
| 14054s | was uh |
| 14056s | that game got weird i'll be honest uh |
| 14059s | sabito made obviously the play with the |
| 14061s | finley which i'm guessing was not |
| 14063s | planned or really thought about too much |
| 14065s | and then i think panic could potentially |
| 14067s | set in it was a last minute or i'll try |
| 14069s | and kill the ship and then everything |
| 14071s | but the ship died which put him in a |
| 14073s | worse spot the silence was found and it |
| 14075s | all snowballed from there but up until |
| 14076s | that point right at this point in the |
| 14078s | game it looked incredibly good for |
| 14081s | sabito and looked where some of that |
| 14083s | some of those wins came from okay that |
| 14085s | replay very very specifically answers my |
| 14088s | question right because |
| 14090s | what i wanted to know was whether he |
| 14092s | knew there was a shield slam or |
| 14093s | something like that something to |
| 14095s | guarantee kill his ship on the bottom of |
| 14097s | his deck that he was looking for |
| 14098s | specifically uh which clearly there was |
| 14100s | because we saw it there from the double |
| 14101s | from the dredge right a zero mana shield |
| 14103s | slam coming out i think also when he |
| 14105s | played the first finley he was roping |
| 14107s | and immediately tried to snap play the |
| 14109s | brawl which obviously would have been a |
| 14110s | way to potentially kill his own ship if |
| 14113s | the brawl was to cost zero but of course |
| 14115s | it didn't because the way things worked |
| 14117s | um so i think you're absolutely right i |
| 14119s | think his initial plan |
| 14121s | uh not accounting for the fact that bran |
| 14123s | finley doesn't work he wanted to play |
| 14125s | the finley so that he could get to that |
| 14127s | shield slam that he'd already seen on |
| 14128s | the bottom of the deck and then |
| 14129s | potentially shield slam his boat if he |
| 14131s | had enough hand space which he probably |
| 14133s | would have because you'll be able to |
| 14134s | dump a bunch of other zero mana cards |
| 14136s | that have been double discounted at that |
| 14137s | point as well right that all makes sense |
| 14140s | apart from the fact that the mechanics |
| 14141s | just don't work like that and then when |
| 14143s | the mechanical misplay sort of came |
| 14145s | along |
| 14146s | then just overdrive brain scramble |
| 14150s | mode right like that's what kicked in at |
| 14151s | that point uh yeah pretty awful |
| 14154s | situation for sure because it looked |
| 14156s | like he was about to find a way out of a |
| 14158s | very very difficult matchup um with his |
| 14161s | life intact but now it's going to come |
| 14164s | all the way down to a control warrior |
| 14168s | mirror raven |
| 14169s | oh yay |
| 14171s | i cannot wait uh here though big |
| 14174s | difference between the two lists or at |
| 14175s | least the main difference for me is that |
| 14178s | sabito is running shadowhunter vol'jin |
| 14180s | and uh msbc is not and that can be quite |
| 14184s | impactful with some of these minions |
| 14186s | that are you know available in the deck |
| 14188s | uh whether it's his own minions or his |
| 14190s | opponent's minions right uh he can |
| 14192s | potentially bounce some stuff to help |
| 14194s | out with that so especially when we talk |
| 14196s | about the ship right he can just bounce |
| 14198s | the ship and then it's just a taunt |
| 14200s | minion at that point because the ship |
| 14202s | doesn't have the battle cry right yep |
| 14205s | oh yeah is that a good way to do that it |
| 14207s | may be looking at uh in response to that |
| 14209s | potential killing off the ship |
| 14212s | like we sort of saw the attempt at in |
| 14214s | the previous game |
| 14221s | very very interesting match up for sure |
| 14224s | uh |
| 14225s | certainly much higher than control uh |
| 14228s | much more interesting than various |
| 14229s | control mirrors have been in the past or |
| 14232s | control warrior mirrors specifically uh |
| 14235s | as you may remember raven i actually |
| 14237s | didn't mind the uh control the the grand |
| 14239s | masters control priest match up as long |
| 14242s | as there was only one per day exactly |
| 14245s | one per day i actually found very |
| 14247s | interesting as a match-up overall um but |
| 14250s | generally control warrior mirrors |
| 14252s | haven't really tickled my fancy but |
| 14253s | again because of all those creative wing |
| 14255s | conditions that you can find that we've |
| 14256s | been talking about i do find this one a |
| 14258s | little bit more compelling than usual uh |
| 14261s | particularly because you also have the |
| 14263s | ability to |
| 14264s | mess with your opponent's wing |
| 14266s | conditions so aggressively as you were |
| 14268s | talking about with vol'jin but then |
| 14270s | there's also bran mutanus the ability to |
| 14272s | get those things discounted so you can |
| 14274s | chomp on your opponent's nellies and |
| 14276s | kazakhstans and whatever other wing |
| 14278s | condition they're going for in their |
| 14279s | hands so there's a really like crunchy |
| 14281s | back and forth |
| 14282s | uh between two players just kind of |
| 14285s | trying to find a way to scam each other |
| 14288s | just back and forth over and over each |
| 14289s | turn which uh tickles my fancy quite |
| 14291s | nicely yeah and then just to mix it up |
| 14293s | even if things are eaten uh the amalgam |
| 14296s | can just potentially get them back that |
| 14298s | we've seen before uh i think we saw that |
| 14301s | what was it day one the gabby game like |
| 14303s | match one again |
| 14305s | i think yeah yeah |
| 14309s | though i think this is uh less of a |
| 14311s | crazy spindly than we've seen in recent |
| 14313s | history it's more of i don't like my |
| 14315s | hand i want a new one and a yeah double |
| 14318s | school teacher with shield block seems |
| 14319s | reasonable to me |
| 14328s | and keep cycling yeah i respect this |
| 14330s | school teachers are nice but they're not |
| 14331s | going to win you the match up for sure |
| 14334s | i think in this spot just continue to |
| 14336s | cycle look for something a little bit |
| 14337s | more broken that you've got going on |
| 14339s | somewhere deeper in your deck |
| 14342s | and speaking specifically |
| 14343s | this car yep |
| 14346s | ain't nothing mind-blowing |
| 14348s | extremely medium dredge there yeah |
| 14352s | what are the other two card |
| 14354s | question that's the great mystery isn't |
| 14356s | it |
| 14358s | i would take a guess that he picked |
| 14359s | shield block there just to have a zero |
| 14361s | mana draw a card next to it |
| 14363s | like the night before christmas and |
| 14364s | you're a real whiny child like come on |
| 14366s | come on i just want to open my presents |
| 14368s | now your parents like all right you can |
| 14370s | open one but you have to leave the rest |
| 14372s | until tomorrow and then you open one |
| 14373s | you're like but i want to know what the |
| 14374s | rest of them are now |
| 14378s | or you spend hours working out which one |
| 14381s | do you open yeah do a full analysis of a |
| 14385s | size of package uh shake it a little bit |
| 14387s | sound wait |
| 14388s | do a full analysis of size of package do |
| 14390s | you raven |
| 14396s | we bit the frozen buckler i did not |
| 14399s | expect that there's of course like hand |
| 14401s | space to consider but |
| 14402s | shield block was an option he does have |
| 14404s | the heavy plate to be able to trade it |
| 14406s | as well yeah wants to cycle |
| 14412s | yeah maybe this is just draw it so we |
| 14414s | can play it keep hand space and just get |
| 14416s | it played get it out the way |
| 14426s | here is that gorlok ravager tech talked |
| 14428s | about the way this worked i believe |
| 14430s | again in that very first series of the |
| 14431s | day |
| 14433s | uh or at least in a control warrior |
| 14435s | mirror that we've seen or a control |
| 14436s | warrior matchup that we've seen but just |
| 14438s | that guaranteed ability |
| 14440s | to uh find either mutinous or sir finley |
| 14443s | whichever one you are particularly |
| 14444s | looking for in this case right you |
| 14446s | played from the death so finley is |
| 14447s | suddenly an incredibly high priority |
| 14449s | card therefore if you had a if you even |
| 14452s | from the dredge scene the gorlok ravager |
| 14455s | for example right you can then pick up |
| 14456s | the gorlok ravager play that for very |
| 14458s | cheap to then tutor out the finley to |
| 14460s | then tutor out all the other cards that |
| 14462s | you get from the depths as well just |
| 14464s | really really nice you know spinning |
| 14466s | multi-layered synergy that you have |
| 14468s | between all of these look at the setup |
| 14470s | the funny thing there is that put the |
| 14472s | mutinus in the bottom x amount of cards |
| 14476s | he's hit another from the depths andy |
| 14478s | has bran in hand yeah very nice there's |
| 14481s | potential i'm not sure does he put them |
| 14484s | in order of hand i actually don't know |
| 14486s | this oh i'm actually not sure about that |
| 14488s | either no that's that's something that i |
| 14489s | do very important right yeah that is a |
| 14491s | good point |
| 14499s | i suspect it does because the other way |
| 14501s | around it does have an order right the |
| 14503s | order that you are showing the cards on |
| 14505s | the dredge is the correct order yeah |
| 14507s | third second last sort of thing yeah so |
| 14509s | i i suspect that it does work that way |
| 14512s | around in the inverse as well |
| 14515s | but you never know |
| 14518s | we'll have to test |
| 14526s | oh yeah i'm guessing that insta pic was |
| 14530s | a mutinous soul would you like to uh |
| 14532s | question my logic uh no |
| 14535s | i would think i mean i i would like to i |
| 14538s | do generally love to but in this |
| 14540s | instance it would be foolish |
| 14544s | oh and it is the thing for sabito like |
| 14548s | he's got from the depths he's got his |
| 14550s | mutinous but everything he's just what a |
| 14552s | turn and a half behind would i even say |
| 14554s | right now yeah everest is a msbc |
| 14558s | and now it's just got to be chomp in |
| 14560s | time right |
| 14562s | i mean chomp will be chomped is kind of |
| 14564s | the golden yeah |
| 14568s | there is no signal from sabito that he's |
| 14570s | likely to have mutinous because he isn't |
| 14572s | running gorlok ravager right but still |
| 14575s | like you just there are so many good |
| 14577s | targets right to hit especially when |
| 14579s | you're hitting twice |
| 14588s | really considering it but i do think you |
| 14589s | go |
| 14592s | who knows why |
| 14597s | the winner is |
| 14600s | is sabito like holding on god no it's |
| 14604s | gone |
| 14605s | it's gone |
| 14607s | it looked like cevito was actually just |
| 14609s | mousing over it in his hand just trying |
| 14610s | to pull it back down |
| 14613s | and also you know the kazakhstan of |
| 14615s | course a huge eat there from |
| 14618s | but even the shadowhunter vulgate right |
| 14621s | like one of the cards that can also |
| 14623s | cause some havoc uh for msbc that was |
| 14626s | also gone so |
| 14630s | bran is cleared up though so no brown |
| 14632s | boat on this occasion |
| 14641s | it would seem based on that beginning |
| 14646s | i would also choose to play nelly now |
| 14649s | and just shield shatter even though it's |
| 14651s | a bit overkill but you know that's where |
| 14653s | you are |
| 14654s | i think |
| 14655s | one of these minions will get swung into |
| 14658s | regardless again maybe just leave the |
| 14660s | other one up you know if that's the case |
| 14662s | yeah it is i just think like he's just |
| 14664s | done the mute to this thing and caused |
| 14666s | big issues |
| 14667s | yeah just play nelly just get nearly out |
| 14670s | of the hand right like done |
| 14673s | i'm pretty sure you still want to draw |
| 14674s | cards here yeah look for a moment like |
| 14676s | msbc was going to clear there but i |
| 14678s | still think like when you still have |
| 14680s | your kazakhstan wing condition alive and |
| 14682s | waiting |
| 14683s | in deck |
| 14684s | and you are still very interested in |
| 14686s | drawing those cards |
| 14691s | this is on the smite hits the uh 54 |
| 14694s | percenter instead of the 46 percenter |
| 14697s | which uh amazingly seems to only happen |
| 14699s | about five percent of the time in my |
| 14701s | experience |
| 14703s | are any amalgams left for sabito because |
| 14705s | i wonder if he picked the golakka for |
| 14707s | that |
| 14709s | i gobble up the amalgam |
| 14712s | oh and we're gone |
| 14714s | we will connect |
| 14717s | the pesky nelly bug strikes again uh |
| 14721s | we'll get a reconnect as quickly as |
| 14724s | possible a few guys of course but it is |
| 14726s | an unfortunate bug that i imagine there |
| 14728s | will get sorted out in the near future |
| 14730s | so fingers crossed for that one |
| 14734s | it'll be a tough one though for sabito i |
| 14736s | think right he's lost so many of his his |
| 14738s | valuable resources i think it is going |
| 14740s | to be a |
| 14742s | a big ask if he can't discover the likes |
| 14744s | of another kazakus |
| 14746s | yeah it's curving straight into this |
| 14747s | raid boss and nyx here at the very least |
| 14749s | and there is not the mr smite on the |
| 14751s | other side so |
| 14752s | he should be able to seize a little bit |
| 14754s | of tempo here at the very least it will |
| 14756s | prove smart for msbc to have held onto |
| 14759s | that rancor as well because that will |
| 14760s | clean up the remainder of the uh raid |
| 14763s | boss onyxia very nicely |
| 14768s | rancor onyxian drake is kind of the |
| 14770s | go-to counter to a raid boss in ixia |
| 14772s | right cause it just they just naturally |
| 14774s | feed each other as cards so well to be |
| 14776s | able to come up with the counter |
| 14789s | anybody |
| 14794s | take me pick me |
| 14804s | oh okay this might just be a quick |
| 14806s | reconnect to make sure the players are |
| 14808s | good to go |
| 14810s | although saying that at least on our |
| 14812s | screen sabito ended that turn on 10 mana |
| 14816s | so yeah questions may have to be uh |
| 14819s | asked decisions may have to be made we |
| 14821s | will wait and see |
| 14825s | but in the meantime as we were saying |
| 14827s | subtle air at least from this the |
| 14829s | snapshot of when the bug happened of the |
| 14831s | disconnect uh to us it looked like uh |
| 14834s | sabito was in a rough spot uh just based |
| 14838s | on the resources left available that |
| 14839s | could also change but uh we'll see what |
| 14843s | happens |
| 14844s | yep not sure entirely what will if |
| 14846s | anything will be happening here |
| 14849s | we will uh wait to hear anything from |
| 14851s | our admins but at least for now the game |
| 14853s | does seem to be proceeding |
| 14864s | and at this point |
| 14866s | just a big ask isn't it he does have the |
| 14867s | shield shatter |
| 14869s | to deal with the majority of this board |
| 14871s | with the weapon swing as well to draw |
| 14873s | this amalgam discover might be the uh |
| 14876s | the biggest impact we see here raid boss |
| 14878s | and nixie and not a kazakhstan |
| 14880s | but still not bad right it's still |
| 14882s | another big threat that you can just |
| 14884s | throw out there and just add to the pile |
| 14886s | yeah it's a decent second prize but |
| 14888s | honestly it's felt like he was going to |
| 14890s | need exactly kazakhstan yes |
| 14893s | situation |
| 14895s | because as it stands the tools are going |
| 14897s | to be there to clean up multiple raid |
| 14899s | boss annexes it is control warrior after |
| 14901s | all there will be another shield shatter |
| 14903s | there is a rancor there is still a nixie |
| 14904s | and drake's there's another raid boss |
| 14906s | enix here on the other side to come back |
| 14907s | the other way now the brawl is drawn as |
| 14909s | well so i think they're always going to |
| 14912s | be the tools to be able to deal with any |
| 14914s | actual threat that gets generated it's |
| 14917s | been the age-old story of the control |
| 14918s | warrior mirror right because they |
| 14920s | generally play few threats |
| 14923s | it means that they all the opponent |
| 14925s | always has relevant removal uh unless |
| 14927s | there's extra value generated |
| 14931s | go for dragon makes sense over pirate |
| 14934s | golf |
| 14936s | well |
| 14937s | ouch |
| 14938s | i mean one against zero seemed unfair |
| 14940s | two against zero seems exponentially and |
| 14944s | somehow also infinitely more unfortunate |
| 14946s | being nerfed to msbc's hand though |
| 14948s | because mutinous is still available for |
| 14950s | sabito so uh |
| 14952s | there's a chance he can just eat it |
| 14954s | instead and we're back to a zero one |
| 14956s | kazakhstan count |
| 14958s | yeah it's like the uh the brand frozen |
| 14960s | buckler interaction right yeah if you |
| 14962s | brand frozen buckler you lose twice as |
| 14964s | much armor if you have two kazakazans |
| 14966s | they're |
| 14966s | likely to get eaten by a mutant |
| 14970s | oh no |
| 14975s | also with just the way this is |
| 14977s | taken out here yes the raid boss was |
| 14980s | good as an additional pickup but there's |
| 14982s | no playable dragon to be able to |
| 14985s | actually fit in with the amalgam right |
| 14987s | to be able to try and discover kaz again |
| 14997s | not to mention of course that |
| 15000s | there was just too much pressure on |
| 15001s | board i suppose to even really consider |
| 15003s | jamming that mutinous at that point he |
| 15005s | would just be |
| 15006s | on a hiding to nothing at that point |
| 15008s | tanking all that damage on the other |
| 15009s | side |
| 15019s | i think now msbc just has to |
| 15023s | sounds a bit silly but not loose right |
| 15025s | one kaz is eaten oh it was the natural |
| 15028s | wasn't it that's the real one as well |
| 15030s | that's so cruel oh |
| 15033s | full |
| 15034s | the one thing that we didn't want to |
| 15037s | happen |
| 15039s | it's so cruel |
| 15041s | i'm not sure what he picked up off the |
| 15042s | naga link as well but if you got like a |
| 15044s | shield slime or any kind of removal this |
| 15046s | turn could be huge right just get rid of |
| 15048s | the 12 12 and play kazakhstan |
| 15054s | yeah even if not |
| 15056s | it'll probably can just raid boss and |
| 15058s | chill this turn if he really needs to |
| 15062s | yeah i believe |
| 15064s | the three cards left are forged in flame |
| 15066s | and two heavy plates |
| 15068s | okay |
| 15069s | it's my understanding of what's left so |
| 15071s | three car wow three cards that |
| 15074s | at this stage of the game |
| 15076s | and how far ahead he is he could just |
| 15078s | burn for kazakhstan if you did get |
| 15080s | shields oh it actually is a shield |
| 15083s | i knew it |
| 15084s | um but yeah three cards i think he could |
| 15086s | have just thrown away |
| 15088s | but i also think he's on the flip side |
| 15090s | of the argument he's so far ahead he |
| 15092s | doesn't need to rush playing kazakhstan |
| 15094s | right so why not just hold off and get |
| 15096s | more cars |
| 15097s | and the two uh heavy plates are |
| 15100s | effectively card draw for the treasures |
| 15102s | anyway so why not wait |
| 15105s | yeah uh you know |
| 15106s | essentially sabito's game has gone so |
| 15108s | badly here that he's so far behind on |
| 15110s | card draw but in kazakhstan now in terms |
| 15113s | of raw fatigue calculations doesn't even |
| 15115s | put msbc that yeah right so he's gonna |
| 15118s | hold on like obviously he would probably |
| 15120s | just straight up win the game in terms |
| 15122s | of raw pressure from the kazakhstan |
| 15124s | treasures at that point but if he can |
| 15125s | hold on i see no reason why he should |
| 15127s | hold on not to mention that he can you |
| 15129s | know secure this tradable in his hand as |
| 15132s | a matter of last order after he's got |
| 15134s | through the rest of his deck as well |
| 15135s | yeah he can even go for the power play |
| 15137s | now right |
| 15138s | yeah cards and then use the here's the |
| 15140s | weapon break |
| 15148s | and that generated kazakhstan after |
| 15150s | sabito munched on the real one yeah it's |
| 15154s | got to feel so savage it might be a |
| 15157s | blessing in disguise of course the uh |
| 15159s | sabito is not on camera was granted the |
| 15162s | exemption to not be on camera for the |
| 15164s | tournament |
| 15166s | and perhaps that is for the best right |
| 15168s | now as we do not to get to see how |
| 15171s | crushed he is seeing this generated |
| 15173s | kazakhstan come down |
| 15175s | because if you look at the way the game |
| 15177s | looks right now |
| 15180s | if the kaz was just a different dragon |
| 15183s | like |
| 15184s | veto's looking okay |
| 15190s | the treasures are so good quickly i'm |
| 15192s | going to scan those treasures yeah seems |
| 15194s | good |
| 15197s | winnable |
| 15201s | devito of course just going to do what |
| 15203s | he can here pile on as much pressure as |
| 15206s | possible but |
| 15207s | ancient reflections raid fossil nixie |
| 15210s | oh come on it has to be the play it's so |
| 15213s | cool oh no you can't target it you can't |
| 15215s | target it while it's immune it doesn't |
| 15216s | work i was looking at deathwing salt |
| 15218s | personally okay yeah fair enough it's |
| 15220s | fine you can take a whelp it's it's |
| 15222s | almost as good |
| 15226s | oh |
| 15227s | jars |
| 15242s | [Music] |
| 15246s | that is just the cooler way to do it |
| 15248s | subtle don't bother having to trade |
| 15249s | loads in you just trade the one |
| 15251s | easy |
| 15253s | honorable killed his own 2-2 for the |
| 15255s | sake of it as well you'd love to see it |
| 15258s | roll might in some worlds make this |
| 15260s | board worse for sabito but he has to do |
| 15263s | something |
| 15265s | okay a 1-1 lived |
| 15267s | which was one of the better outcomes |
| 15271s | i mean that honestly you can't argue |
| 15272s | with that can you an 88 and then three |
| 15275s | bad minions like okay |
| 15277s | doable |
| 15278s | at least in his mind |
| 15281s | on the depths we're gonna get a look at |
| 15283s | three at the bottom five |
| 15285s | one of them looked impressive enough to |
| 15287s | win this game so i'll be honest even |
| 15289s | without looking at embers |
| 15292s | how pow pow |
| 15298s | and they push the damage second embers |
| 15300s | in hand |
| 15301s | yeah i think the second sabito sees |
| 15303s | embers he knows the game is 100 lost |
| 15307s | right because |
| 15308s | if there's no embers and the actual you |
| 15310s | know the treasures were the worst set of |
| 15313s | treasures ever |
| 15315s | there's maybe a glimmer of hope |
| 15317s | especially with nelly |
| 15319s | but i think with the other embassies |
| 15322s | wait a minute |
| 15323s | ancient reflex reflections the ship i |
| 15326s | know i thought of that a couple of turns |
| 15328s | ago |
| 15330s | i'm gonna let that be a surprise and |
| 15332s | rancor |
| 15335s | all of the pirates unfortunately for us |
| 15339s | embers of |
| 15340s | ragnaros was guaranteed lethal boy uh |
| 15343s | although if you can um i suppose if you |
| 15345s | look at what pirates are in the boat you |
| 15346s | could find out that that method was also |
| 15349s | guaranteed lethal with the amount of uh |
| 15351s | mr smites and charging pirates that |
| 15352s | you'd end up getting so yeah fair enough |
| 15354s | i mean |
| 15357s | what a game raven what a series in |
| 15359s | general like weirdly |
| 15361s | is this this this feels a bit strange |
| 15363s | for me to say and i might have to go and |
| 15364s | test my temperature after this one but |
| 15366s | from the moment the control warrior |
| 15368s | entered this series it went into |
| 15370s | absolute overdrive yeah halfway through |
| 15374s | yeah 100 percent uh you know unfortunate |
| 15377s | for sabito i can just confirm because we |
| 15380s | obviously had that disconnect earlier on |
| 15382s | uh that the admins ruled that the game |
| 15384s | would continue so if anyone's just still |
| 15386s | wondering no question that uh it's why |
| 15388s | the players kept playing the game as you |
| 15390s | quite easily saw on screen so uh yeah it |
| 15393s | is gonna be msbc with the win and i |
| 15395s | think he'll be uh maybe wiping some |
| 15397s | sweat off his brow after that one |
| 15399s | because |
| 15400s | even with everything that happened in |
| 15403s | you know all these warrior games that |
| 15405s | was not easy for him right so it was a |
| 15408s | it was a very very tough series indeed |
| 15411s | he does get the victory and move on |
| 15412s | unfortunately for sabito he does take |
| 15415s | the loss but still a very strong run for |
| 15418s | sabito a player at least meet for me so |
| 15420s | i've not seen too much of yeah and a |
| 15424s | player i look forward to seeing more of |
| 15425s | in the future |
| 15426s | yeah for sure and of course msbc uh |
| 15429s | keeping the china dream alive of course |
| 15432s | chinese players have been absolutely |
| 15434s | smashing these masters tours events in |
| 15435s | recent memory it does really seem like |
| 15438s | um |
| 15439s | china and europe are the two regions |
| 15441s | that are really taking a full |
| 15443s | stranglehold on these events over the |
| 15446s | last year or even more than that uh it |
| 15448s | goes to be said so msbc is the the lone |
| 15450s | representative continues to move forward |
| 15452s | hopefully he can get a more stable |
| 15454s | connection on his camera for the uh for |
| 15456s | the future games so we can uh get to see |
| 15459s | a little bit more of what's going on |
| 15461s | with him but he is going to have a very |
| 15463s | very tough test later on when he goes up |
| 15465s | against orange and i think that is very |
| 15467s | fitting because when i talk about europe |
| 15470s | and china kind of being at the deciding |
| 15471s | ends of masters tours over the last year |
| 15474s | 18 months two years well there we have |
| 15476s | it once again in a semi-final yeah and |
| 15479s | those were just the first two matches of |
| 15482s | the top a as you just saw they had |
| 15483s | there's plenty more great matches coming |
| 15485s | up and then of course we'll be playing |
| 15487s | out the whole bracket today so we'll we |
| 15489s | will be crowning a champion by the end |
| 15492s | of the day the caster predictions are in |
| 15494s | and are posted i believe so get ready to |
| 15497s | uh laugh at us and call us dumb a little |
| 15499s | bit later on as we move towards those |
| 15501s | finals but for now we're going to go to |
| 15502s | a quick break while we start the next |
| 15504s | match don't go anywhere we'll be right |
| 15505s | back |
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| 15533s | oh |
| 15534s | [Music] |
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| 15565s | foreign |
| 15606s | [Music] |
| 15623s | messiah |
| 15634s | me |
| 15635s | [Music] |
| 15643s | [Music] |
| 15655s | [Music] |
| 15702s | hello everybody welcome back to master's |
| 15703s | tour voyage to the sunken city the |
| 15706s | quarterfinals continue here my name is |
| 15708s | tj and i'm joined by gia and we have a |
| 15711s | pretty good match coming up next it's |
| 15713s | gonna be lettuce versus face off yeah |
| 15716s | how you feeling about this one |
| 15717s | i'm feeling great because it's the letta |
| 15719s | face off face-off tj my joke not yours |
| 15723s | that's right that's right i'm glad you |
| 15725s | got to to get that one out of your |
| 15727s | system right off the bat um but this is |
| 15730s | an interesting matchup um because we |
| 15732s | have uh sort of |
| 15734s | the |
| 15734s | aggressive lineup uh from letta right |
| 15737s | with like the uh the be sure and meg |
| 15739s | paladin |
| 15740s | uh pirate rogue etc uh versus the lineup |
| 15744s | from face-off that we've actually seen |
| 15746s | quite a bit already in the in the top |
| 15749s | eight with the uh ramp druid the boar |
| 15752s | priest and the control warrior what are |
| 15754s | your thoughts on this uh matchup going |
| 15756s | into the series |
| 15757s | definitely feel that faceoff has an |
| 15760s | uphill battle with his druid in |
| 15762s | particular his type of lineup with the |
| 15764s | slightly greedier decks i'd say he even |
| 15766s | has like anti-control to a certain |
| 15769s | extent uh with the boar priest in there |
| 15771s | uh it's not necessarily well placed |
| 15774s | against lada because i've seen this |
| 15776s | lineup with a quest hunter in there |
| 15777s | maybe instead of the boar priest and |
| 15779s | slightly favored that chance more |
| 15781s | against the likes of rogue and demon |
| 15783s | hunter but i can see that boar priest |
| 15785s | struggling against the decks that lana |
| 15787s | has to uh let out has to offer and then |
| 15789s | there's also the fact that druid i think |
| 15791s | doesn't have any particularly good |
| 15793s | matchups here at least i've learned this |
| 15795s | to believe that mk paladin is actually |
| 15797s | favored against druid but it's a close |
| 15799s | one for sure |
| 15802s | yeah it's |
| 15803s | every time |
| 15804s | we've seen sort of this priest on stream |
| 15807s | up until the top eight |
| 15809s | um it seems to be doing not that great |
| 15812s | uh to be quite honest um we saw a good |
| 15815s | opening with it i think it was like |
| 15816s | series one |
| 15817s | with uh with meaty |
| 15819s | um but then it struggled but now we're |
| 15821s | in the top eight the representation of |
| 15823s | board priests is actually uh pretty high |
| 15825s | i think there's |
| 15827s | still a couple players left there were |
| 15829s | half the players in the top eight that |
| 15831s | brought board priests i believe uh or at |
| 15833s | least three |
| 15834s | so kind of an interesting dynamic there |
| 15837s | reminds me a little bit of the uh the |
| 15839s | naga mage but let's gonna be opening |
| 15840s | with pirate rogue another deck that i |
| 15843s | still don't really know |
| 15845s | how to |
| 15847s | uh |
| 15848s | you know size up in terms of its |
| 15850s | strength we've seen the fantastic games |
| 15852s | from pirate rogue but we've also seen |
| 15854s | games where it's supposed to be an aggro |
| 15856s | deck and it just fizzles out |
| 15858s | that's right i generally don't think |
| 15860s | it's one of the best decks in the |
| 15862s | current meta but it certainly has its |
| 15864s | little niche where it can prey on druid |
| 15867s | if you get off to a very aggressive |
| 15868s | start and if you tuck it a certain way |
| 15870s | like what we're seeing from letta here |
| 15872s | with the double shadow step and hook |
| 15875s | tusk package you can have a lot of game |
| 15877s | against control decks as well because as |
| 15879s | long as you get to that hook tusk um |
| 15881s | uninterrupted you can in theory join 15 |
| 15884s | total cards from your opponent's deck |
| 15886s | and let us taken that even one step |
| 15887s | further with the mutinous to devour at |
| 15889s | the top end so i think the rogue has a |
| 15891s | real shot against faceoff's warrior as |
| 15893s | well and we've already seen that paladin |
| 15895s | potentially can prey on warrior also if |
| 15898s | you can just get a good enough curve and |
| 15900s | have consistent flow of resources with |
| 15902s | enough radar detectors so face off is |
| 15904s | actually starting with that warrior |
| 15906s | which might end up being a problem deck |
| 15908s | for him later on |
| 15911s | yeah when you sort of bring it down like |
| 15913s | that it it |
| 15914s | really doesn't seem to bode well for |
| 15916s | face-off he's got two decks |
| 15918s | that seem like they could struggle |
| 15920s | against the uh the lineup from from |
| 15922s | letta so uh we got that little setup |
| 15925s | going in terms of uh story going to the |
| 15928s | series but taking a look at the control |
| 15930s | warrior from face off we really haven't |
| 15931s | seen much variation |
| 15933s | in control warrior builds |
| 15935s | uh thus far uh there's a couple of flex |
| 15938s | slots |
| 15939s | but it's one of the decks that |
| 15941s | alongside the naga demon hunter |
| 15944s | to be pretty set in stone in terms of 30 |
| 15946s | card lists |
| 15947s | that's right i think the only card that |
| 15949s | i see come in and out of it is the |
| 15951s | vulgin maybe in favor of like another |
| 15954s | forged in flame or something like that |
| 15956s | uh or another rank or brawl but very |
| 15959s | often you have this very heavy package |
| 15961s | of legendary cards at the top end and |
| 15963s | you're also running the brandon finley |
| 15965s | like since day one control warrior has |
| 15968s | been one of the most expensive decks to |
| 15971s | craft it feels like and for good reason |
| 15973s | um |
| 15974s | because you are able to run so much card |
| 15976s | draw thanks to fortune and flame and |
| 15977s | then the finley and the new dredge |
| 15979s | mechanic you're much more consistently |
| 15981s | able to see the bottom of your deck more |
| 15983s | so than ever before i feel and you do |
| 15985s | have much more consistent access to all |
| 15987s | of these one of powerful effects but |
| 15990s | against rogue in particular this build |
| 15992s | from latta i am so curious to see how |
| 15994s | faceoff will pilot it because i feel |
| 15996s | like he has to be aggressive honestly |
| 15998s | because if lada has unlimited time he |
| 16000s | can just use this hook tusk and the |
| 16001s | double shadow steps to steal all that |
| 16004s | value from face-off |
| 16008s | yeah let us already got a |
| 16010s | good opening here with prep vessel |
| 16013s | already has dredge as well with the |
| 16015s | gone fishing |
| 16017s | to be able to |
| 16018s | uh pull those pirates out immediately |
| 16022s | though the the value is there or at |
| 16024s | least the pressure is there we'll see if |
| 16026s | you'll be able to make good use of it |
| 16028s | but for face off he's put together the |
| 16030s | combo of from the depths and finley so |
| 16033s | there's a chance that he can do some |
| 16034s | very very powerful stuff early nelly |
| 16036s | early recara we've seen how much of an |
| 16038s | impact that can have in any matchup but |
| 16040s | for lata here the pickup of cutlass |
| 16042s | courier is pretty much perfect because |
| 16045s | the only problem with this hand is that |
| 16046s | uh prior to that draw he didn't have a |
| 16048s | guaranteed way to combo the gun fishing |
| 16050s | next turn um unless he wanted to shadow |
| 16053s | step at 33 which doesn't feel |
| 16054s | particularly good but now he has courier |
| 16056s | and the gun fishing he can get the |
| 16059s | maximum amount of minions on board and |
| 16062s | we can see that face-off's dredge |
| 16064s | options are |
| 16066s | mediocre i would say not any of the |
| 16069s | legendaries but a one mana school |
| 16070s | teacher is still pretty decent |
| 16075s | yeah |
| 16076s | shield shatter could also be an option |
| 16079s | knowing that the uh the prep vessel is |
| 16082s | there because he does have that heavy |
| 16083s | plate which heavy plate plus |
| 16086s | shield shatter |
| 16087s | by itself with the discount from the |
| 16089s | depths is enough to |
| 16090s | uh clean up these board states and i'm |
| 16093s | curious if |
| 16094s | um is it worth |
| 16097s | uh with this much pressure on the board |
| 16099s | actually dredging the pirates because |
| 16101s | gone fishing will draw that immediately |
| 16104s | and it would play right into a |
| 16106s | combination for shield chatter |
| 16108s | yeah lettuce says no it was a good |
| 16110s | question to bring up but the |
| 16111s | counterpoint is if you leave this much |
| 16113s | pressure um isn't warrior kind of happy |
| 16116s | to just outriders axe but not that i |
| 16118s | look at it again outriders acts could be |
| 16120s | a bit greedy here because it leaves lada |
| 16122s | still five attack on board and attack |
| 16124s | from the weapon and honestly the pick of |
| 16126s | the shield chatter itself from the judge |
| 16128s | last run was interesting because no |
| 16130s | matter what face-off pick there he still |
| 16132s | had access to the other two because of |
| 16134s | that finland hand so i was wondering if |
| 16136s | you ever pick the one you least want to |
| 16138s | use and then just finley that turn but |
| 16140s | there is of course no rush on the finley |
| 16142s | so i still respect the pick of the |
| 16144s | shield chatter and he's going to hold on |
| 16145s | to that for next turn most likely |
| 16152s | bootstrap sunkeneer is the draw for lata |
| 16158s | not fantastic in this situation but he |
| 16161s | is picking up all these |
| 16162s | sort of uh anti-combo anti-control |
| 16165s | cards with both hook tusk and mutants in |
| 16167s | the hand early on and hooked us |
| 16169s | will almost certainly be active |
| 16171s | immediately on eight because uh |
| 16174s | uh vessels has been played he can |
| 16177s | go fishing |
| 16179s | at any point to get the uh two |
| 16180s | additional |
| 16182s | uh summons as well |
| 16184s | so he's looking good on that front so |
| 16185s | he's got the the wombo combo mutinous |
| 16188s | into hook tusk and then the wombo |
| 16191s | combo wombo |
| 16193s | with mutinous and toe hook tusk into |
| 16195s | shadow step into hook tusk |
| 16198s | and if you extend that to this turn |
| 16199s | where he's put so much pressure on the |
| 16201s | board it's the wombo combo wombo combo |
| 16203s | wambo |
| 16204s | because he just has powerful turn after |
| 16207s | powerful turn starting now with the |
| 16209s | discovery of the edmund van cleef it |
| 16211s | guarantees him a good refill even if |
| 16213s | there is a shield shatter here lada very |
| 16215s | measured with how much pressure he wants |
| 16217s | to put on board it's just enough that um |
| 16220s | just outrider's axe to clear is awkward |
| 16222s | for faced off and it's not too much that |
| 16224s | a shield shatter would be back breaking |
| 16226s | for lada very very cleverly approached |
| 16233s | and it's only turn five |
| 16236s | so |
| 16237s | uh |
| 16238s | not the best situation for |
| 16240s | faceoff to be in |
| 16242s | and we'll have to part ways |
| 16244s | with uh |
| 16245s | at least one of the shield shatters here |
| 16248s | let's have a second what about another |
| 16250s | vessel |
| 16252s | yep and between the first four pirates |
| 16255s | that hit the board and this vessel and |
| 16256s | dredge that means that hook tusk is |
| 16258s | already active so lada could very easily |
| 16260s | go mutinous into hook tusk on curve |
| 16263s | depending on the situation he could |
| 16264s | immediately step the hook tusk but he's |
| 16266s | got enough pressure that there's a world |
| 16268s | where he doesn't go for tons of value |
| 16271s | but seeing a second shield shatter i do |
| 16272s | think he needs multiple hook tusk |
| 16274s | activations |
| 16278s | all right |
| 16279s | so face off deciding this is the finley |
| 16282s | turn and i believe there was a school |
| 16285s | teacher and |
| 16287s | a shield block or something at the |
| 16288s | bottom |
| 16291s | uh amalgam there was an amalgam once |
| 16293s | this oh my bad choice |
| 16295s | yeah okay oh |
| 16297s | cheap rakara though |
| 16302s | we could just go face and ricara to |
| 16305s | re-equip a new weapon and play school |
| 16307s | teacher but there is a world where he |
| 16310s | wants to get maximum charges from the |
| 16312s | outrider's axle though with three |
| 16314s | weapons total available to him that |
| 16316s | doesn't seem super necessary another |
| 16318s | from the depths picked up though is |
| 16320s | excellent |
| 16330s | oh |
| 16331s | slithering death scale |
| 16334s | okay |
| 16338s | i mean he has seen both vessels but |
| 16341s | even outside of those three three |
| 16342s | pirates i guess there's still some |
| 16343s | targets that that aoe is pretty |
| 16345s | effective against |
| 16347s | yeah |
| 16350s | and now lada has decided decide whether |
| 16352s | it's chomping time because it's not an |
| 16354s | ideal state to play mutants right he's |
| 16356s | face down with eight pressure on board |
| 16358s | and the weapon like there is a world |
| 16360s | where a nelly on the other side could be |
| 16364s | um the counter pressure that faceoff |
| 16365s | needs to end this but letta is fearless |
| 16368s | goes for the mutinous and gets the |
| 16369s | highest stats target |
| 16372s | yeah i think he knew that like at this |
| 16374s | point well i don't know with the |
| 16376s | noggling that's a |
| 16379s | pretty risky choice either way you're |
| 16380s | getting some value because it's either |
| 16382s | knuckling or |
| 16383s | um |
| 16384s | whatever naca was chosen |
| 16387s | by face-off |
| 16388s | and if looking at the rest of this place |
| 16390s | none of them seemed particularly |
| 16392s | appealing i guess it could have been |
| 16393s | edwin and just try to |
| 16395s | reload a little bit at hand okay hit |
| 16398s | smite which is annoying for lada but |
| 16401s | it's not a hook tusk right which means |
| 16403s | that he can use hook dust for |
| 16405s | counter pressure this turn if he wants |
| 16407s | to steal the mutanus on the other side |
| 16410s | however he is just kinda dying because |
| 16412s | faceoff says let me just smack this |
| 16414s | mutanus and deal92 and he is setting up |
| 16416s | lethal |
| 16418s | yeah if he goes for hook test and steals |
| 16419s | the mutinous he dies |
| 16422s | right |
| 16423s | to the weapon swing so um |
| 16427s | uh |
| 16428s | so there is |
| 16430s | like filet fisher bootstrap |
| 16433s | okay |
| 16435s | you can put |
| 16436s | either mutinus or school teacher at the |
| 16438s | bottom of faceoff's deck |
| 16440s | and at least be alive on |
| 16443s | board |
| 16445s | actually no you're not right because if |
| 16447s | you like trade mutanus into mutanus and |
| 16450s | remove the 5.4 there's still eight on |
| 16453s | board including the weapon and then hero |
| 16454s | power just ends it |
| 16458s | it was heat |
| 16462s | oh he's looking for something from the |
| 16464s | hand |
| 16466s | uh there was still a dis |
| 16468s | well there were still discounted cards |
| 16469s | right so |
| 16471s | the discounted cards uh from the uh from |
| 16474s | the depths could have bailed him out i |
| 16476s | think he realized that was his only |
| 16478s | potential out |
| 16479s | but i feel like face off just kind of |
| 16482s | stole that game that looked like |
| 16484s | obviously uh let it didn't have |
| 16487s | incredible follow-up specifically on |
| 16489s | that turn seven everything with him was |
| 16491s | incredibly expensive um |
| 16493s | but uh it seemed like he was off to the |
| 16496s | races it was just pressure from nowhere |
| 16498s | uh from face-off which uh really allowed |
| 16500s | him to keep snowballing |
| 16503s | yeah it's really the nature of control |
| 16505s | warrior these days is that they're not |
| 16506s | just sitting there removing minions they |
| 16508s | have bonafide threats of their own and |
| 16510s | this four mana rakara just you know as |
| 16513s | the base weapon is threatening 10 damage |
| 16515s | and by having a mutanus on board it |
| 16518s | dealt 14 with this weapon and that was |
| 16520s | well enough to close out the game even |
| 16522s | though in terms of the long run if you |
| 16524s | look at the decklist head-to-head like |
| 16526s | yeah okay mute uh |
| 16527s | hook tusk and multiple activations |
| 16529s | theoretically can steal the match up |
| 16531s | like faceoff found that small window |
| 16533s | that grace period where he could be |
| 16535s | ahead on board and just snowballed off |
| 16537s | of that because rogue doesn't have any |
| 16538s | healing very cleverly approached |
| 16541s | yeah and i think that's a big one um |
| 16544s | because |
| 16546s | we talked about um |
| 16547s | we're kind of being the secondary |
| 16549s | struggle target |
| 16550s | i guess all of his decks have a few poor |
| 16553s | matchups |
| 16554s | um across the board i guess warrior |
| 16557s | did have some good ones |
| 16558s | i don't know banned demon hunter oh yeah |
| 16560s | he's running the |
| 16563s | um |
| 16564s | oh never mind that wasn't him |
| 16567s | i was gonna not the foul demon the fell |
| 16569s | demon hunter yeah |
| 16571s | uh |
| 16572s | okay that's interesting i guess trying |
| 16574s | to get his druid across the board as |
| 16575s | easily as possible |
| 16578s | um there is still the bore priest to |
| 16580s | contend with though which is another |
| 16582s | thing that hooked us can very easily |
| 16584s | disrupt because stealing cards from the |
| 16586s | deck like war priest requires so many |
| 16588s | combo pieces to be intact and |
| 16591s | undisrupted by mutanus slash hook tusk |
| 16594s | that i feel rogue can have a real leg up |
| 16596s | in that matchup but for now lada is |
| 16598s | moving to his mech paladin which i would |
| 16602s | assume has a decent enough matchup |
| 16604s | against druid otherwise there's |
| 16607s | you know it's a questionable |
| 16608s | questionable deck to bring overall but |
| 16610s | still i don't feel like true in |
| 16611s | struggles that much and then into borah |
| 16613s | priest i've heard very very conflicting |
| 16615s | opinions of who actually comes out ahead |
| 16617s | uh board priests players say it's pretty |
| 16619s | easy for a boar piece because they're |
| 16621s | one of the decks that don't really |
| 16623s | struggle with divine shield that much |
| 16624s | given that wild pyromancer is one of |
| 16627s | their premium board removal tools and |
| 16628s | that deals with divine shield as if it's |
| 16630s | just one additional health |
| 16634s | yeah and mick paladin is |
| 16637s | still one of those decks that does have |
| 16639s | some glaring weaknesses |
| 16641s | um one being obviously the reload |
| 16644s | potential if you don't hit radar |
| 16646s | detector uh the second being um |
| 16649s | like the inconsistencies of actually |
| 16652s | finding |
| 16653s | like ways to buff your minions right |
| 16656s | um like if you |
| 16658s | don't hit weapon |
| 16660s | in the early game or if you can't find a |
| 16662s | bubble bot to protect your board |
| 16664s | against certain things |
| 16666s | so sometimes you're just playing |
| 16669s | reasonably static divine shield minions |
| 16671s | onto the board until you're out of cards |
| 16674s | and that's your game plan uh so uh we'll |
| 16678s | see if uh letta's gonna be able to to |
| 16680s | find the goods here and it will be |
| 16682s | against the board priests |
| 16684s | if i had a criticism for mack paladin it |
| 16686s | would just be that the doctor seems too |
| 16688s | fair which is crazy to say because we |
| 16690s | are literally running a 4-4 that can |
| 16692s | give the entire rest of your board if |
| 16694s | it's max divine shield which you know a |
| 16696s | few years ago would have been an |
| 16698s | absolutely bonkers card to print in |
| 16700s | hearthstone same with eenie she just has |
| 16702s | such a powerful effect but it just has |
| 16705s | such a linear game plan of if your |
| 16708s | opponent knows what they're playing |
| 16709s | around and can consistently keep you off |
| 16712s | the board you have no |
| 16713s | um like effective comeback mechanisms |
| 16716s | but against bar priest it's not so much |
| 16718s | about come back on the board it's a race |
| 16721s | against the clock can you kill them |
| 16723s | before they get the weapon online and |
| 16725s | that is questionable because priests |
| 16727s | does have access to multiple board |
| 16730s | clears again wild pyro good against |
| 16732s | divine shield cyrella and light bomb not |
| 16733s | so much so faceoff still needs to be a |
| 16735s | bit careful and how he kind of parcels |
| 16738s | out his resources but i think that it is |
| 16741s | very much |
| 16745s | doable gee i don't think we'd be doing |
| 16748s | our jobs well if we didn't mention that |
| 16752s | paladin always has a win condition in |
| 16755s | their back pocket with carrio |
| 16759s | yeah but what if they have one mana left |
| 16762s | that placement uh |
| 16765s | that just gives you more of an excuse to |
| 16767s | keep pressing the hero power of return |
| 16769s | after you can't though if you have one |
| 16771s | message after the sort of a thousand |
| 16773s | truths is gone yeah but they have |
| 16775s | another one from zarella to devout |
| 16778s | yeah but maybe that won't be there at |
| 16780s | that point |
| 16784s | it won't be there because you're dead |
| 16785s | already |
| 16787s | no you won't be dead |
| 16790s | you can't be |
| 16791s | mr smart has to win |
| 16794s | oh i thought you're gonna make the |
| 16795s | argument of oh the carriage weapon's |
| 16797s | intact so you won't die but even if |
| 16799s | you're at 35 |
| 16801s | like six charges of sort of a thousand |
| 16803s | truths is 90 and half of that is 45 |
| 16806s | which is greater than 35 |
| 16808s | all right |
| 16809s | you weave in an annoyatron in between |
| 16811s | there you go |
| 16812s | okay okay and the priest is completely |
| 16814s | out of removal |
| 16817s | yeah turn three they're out of removal |
| 16818s | oh no what they're gonna do |
| 16820s | uh yeah of course the early game does |
| 16822s | seem a little bit scary for priests in |
| 16824s | these situations where they only have |
| 16827s | like some lists only have holy smite to |
| 16829s | actually deal with a minion this list |
| 16830s | from face off doesn't even include that |
| 16832s | so he is |
| 16833s | very much banking on the xyrella to get |
| 16836s | work done later on but i wonder what |
| 16838s | kind of player letta is is he just not |
| 16840s | going to hit faceoff at all to prevent |
| 16843s | zyra clear or is he going to go for |
| 16845s | incremental damage he's already thinking |
| 16846s | about it right who |
| 16848s | caught himself |
| 16850s | it's a near automatic oh yeah |
| 16853s | buff the automaton |
| 16857s | this one let's commit to the annoyatron |
| 16859s | hit and this break point is interesting |
| 16862s | because if you went with the automaton |
| 16864s | hit and not the annoyer trying you're |
| 16865s | still playing around gifted the naruto |
| 16867s | drawing anything uh |
| 16869s | just hitting with annoyiatron i'm not |
| 16871s | sure what it achieves but in the end he |
| 16873s | just decides to not respect xyrella it's |
| 16875s | super early in the game i think it's |
| 16877s | reasonable but here we go face off has |
| 16880s | access to devour for zero if you want |
| 16884s | because the rest of this turn is gift of |
| 16886s | the naaru and then he can play devour |
| 16888s | after that right |
| 16897s | and it's not a clear on the automaton |
| 16901s | but it is a clear on anoyatron end |
| 16905s | oh just |
| 16906s | just annoy it on my bad |
| 16908s | yeah |
| 16910s | it does |
| 16911s | contest the board with a 3.5 |
| 16914s | but automaton |
| 16916s | could get up to value trade point |
| 16920s | right the five health break point is |
| 16922s | huge though because just bubble bought |
| 16923s | from lata would i mean technically allow |
| 16926s | him to double trade but then the divine |
| 16929s | shields are expended and then zarella |
| 16931s | can come to play after |
| 16933s | also having said that faceoff is at 29. |
| 16941s | the clocker |
| 16943s | nah he already has one maybe you go moon |
| 16945s | catcher |
| 16946s | yeah |
| 16954s | okay |
| 16956s | once again letta deciding whether he |
| 16958s | attacks and he is not respecting zarella |
| 16960s | but now this |
| 16962s | 26 health means that faceoff can heal up |
| 16965s | for four and zarella can clear |
| 16967s | everything but the click clocker but he |
| 16970s | can also choose to play a bit with fire |
| 16972s | and take another cycle turn and gear up |
| 16975s | for a bigger xyrella |
| 16978s | hmm |
| 16980s | yeah the automaton is a little bit scary |
| 16983s | but reasonably he |
| 16985s | probably can only get up a couple more |
| 16987s | attack he's at 26 he should be perfectly |
| 16989s | fine |
| 16990s | um |
| 16992s | the real scary thing though is bubble |
| 16994s | butt if you don't clear this board you |
| 16996s | don't have a pyro left right now for |
| 16997s | face off and zarella does a whole load |
| 17000s | of nothing against divine shields so |
| 17004s | oh man he goes for the switch roof |
| 17008s | don't fault him for taking the risk but |
| 17010s | this bubble bot is going to be huge |
| 17015s | quickly |
| 17017s | alicia only refreshes for two mana but |
| 17020s | if he really wanted to he could play two |
| 17023s | spells |
| 17024s | and then valish and then zyrella but |
| 17026s | that really doesn't seem worth it like |
| 17028s | you cannot play an amulet with only one |
| 17030s | poor dad that just wrecks your win |
| 17031s | condition so yeah he is going to refresh |
| 17034s | for handmaiden instead |
| 17043s | bubbles |
| 17044s | or |
| 17045s | [Music] |
| 17048s | you could do like a halfway play where |
| 17050s | you play minions that naturally have |
| 17051s | divine shield but not the bubble bot |
| 17058s | this is a lot of damage to |
| 17062s | protect with bubble bot i guess |
| 17064s | there would be trades on board exactly |
| 17067s | yeah |
| 17069s | and the annoyer tron being in the way |
| 17071s | does |
| 17073s | make things a little bit awkward |
| 17076s | or maybe |
| 17078s | with that many cards drawn over the last |
| 17080s | two turns i think that |
| 17082s | respecting xyrella is |
| 17085s | probably a good thing to do |
| 17088s | there is another way to respect zarella |
| 17090s | which is to not damage face off this |
| 17092s | turn because he has healed all the way |
| 17093s | back up to 30. |
| 17095s | so |
| 17096s | i mean there's many ways that ladder can |
| 17099s | approach this really the only thing he's |
| 17101s | scared of is wild pyromancer if he |
| 17102s | doesn't decide to damage face off here |
| 17105s | but um he could now because he's |
| 17107s | committed the bubble bot and really only |
| 17109s | has like two minions that will die to |
| 17111s | zarella i think he'd still be fine if |
| 17113s | zarella were to come down here |
| 17115s | yeah oh sure though |
| 17119s | that's huge |
| 17121s | yeah |
| 17123s | so it's between shard and then flash |
| 17125s | heal or desperate prayer and then uh |
| 17128s | zarella desperate player would be me in |
| 17130s | this matchup |
| 17134s | the upshot of desperate prayer is he can |
| 17136s | weave in the bore as well which is nice |
| 17138s | sometimes it's hard to find a window to |
| 17139s | actually get that played and dead before |
| 17141s | you go amulets |
| 17143s | yeah |
| 17148s | and it's back to the drawing board for |
| 17151s | letta moon catcher into vindicator lets |
| 17153s | him draw the other radar and get back |
| 17155s | the sunken one guaranteed plus x amount |
| 17158s | of mechs |
| 17167s | i think you drew four |
| 17169s | two |
| 17171s | three no three |
| 17173s | sometimes i can gauge it by just how |
| 17175s | smushed together the rest of the hand |
| 17176s | seems but i'm not an expert |
| 17180s | yeah but this is off to the races for |
| 17184s | face off already has gotten through vast |
| 17186s | majority of the deck |
| 17188s | right and he has access to second pyro |
| 17190s | and cleric now so he can empty out his |
| 17192s | deck whenever he needs he can also play |
| 17194s | the first amulet after this board trades |
| 17196s | because i believe that's on two |
| 17197s | resurrects at the moment |
| 17199s | yeah |
| 17202s | the other amulet though i think that was |
| 17204s | the first trade on it so ideally he'd |
| 17206s | like to draw it back and then trade it |
| 17209s | so that it's immediately able to be |
| 17211s | played |
| 17215s | is someone injured |
| 17219s | wow he just tempos cleric here says he |
| 17221s | doesn't need any further card draw |
| 17223s | yeah he's only going to have two cards |
| 17225s | left in the deck once |
| 17228s | the turn passes over next turn so maybe |
| 17230s | he doesn't want to find himself in a |
| 17232s | position where fatigue is a huge deal or |
| 17234s | potential fatigue if he if there's too |
| 17237s | many minions on the other side of the |
| 17238s | board to heal |
| 17239s | yeah faceoff does have more information |
| 17242s | than i remember because he did dredge |
| 17244s | twice at the beginning but there is a |
| 17246s | chance that the amulet is at the very |
| 17248s | bottom right the second amulet which |
| 17249s | could be scary oh sheep |
| 17252s | [Laughter] |
| 17255s | that's annoying for letta |
| 17259s | like you could make the argument that |
| 17261s | okay if pyro procs sheep then pyro dies |
| 17264s | but there's shadower devours so that's |
| 17266s | not necessarily the case |
| 17274s | there's a cleric in the end i think |
| 17276s | that's reasonable i would still be |
| 17277s | scared honestly of face off even getting |
| 17279s | one or two extra draws here because it |
| 17281s | speeds his win condition up by that much |
| 17284s | yep |
| 17286s | so at this point for a lot of |
| 17289s | it's looking like a pretty desperate |
| 17291s | situation um he really doesn't have much |
| 17294s | pressure on the board |
| 17296s | oh thrive is left okay so that's |
| 17298s | guaranteed amulet and |
| 17300s | it's two okay so he has to trade at |
| 17303s | first |
| 17305s | before going for the big pop off so it's |
| 17308s | still one more turn i think of setup |
| 17309s | necessary |
| 17314s | okay you can trade the other one it's |
| 17315s | fine |
| 17317s | oh no that one's a three in my bad |
| 17319s | oh what okay i thought it was at two |
| 17321s | only so yeah that's just gg then |
| 17324s | yeah a lot of shake in the head |
| 17328s | not great |
| 17330s | there's the conceit coming out |
| 17332s | no way for him to do anything going into |
| 17333s | the next turn so uh 2-0 |
| 17336s | for face-off now had the the good setup |
| 17338s | tempo in the cleric that previous turn |
| 17340s | made sense he knew that the thrive was |
| 17341s | in the deck |
| 17342s | um so it was either |
| 17344s | you drew the thrive or you |
| 17347s | drew the ambulance in that scenario so |
| 17350s | um was able to get that immediately even |
| 17352s | if he had to trade |
| 17354s | that's that second amulet right even if |
| 17357s | it was at two and he needed to trade it |
| 17358s | back i still think he has time uh yeah |
| 17361s | absolutely |
| 17363s | um the only thing that may have |
| 17366s | stopped him would have been like a |
| 17368s | buffed taunt |
| 17370s | right uh because while pyromancer may |
| 17372s | not have cleared it enough |
| 17375s | for the sword to actually be able to |
| 17377s | push through it but that would have |
| 17378s | required a multiple card set up for for |
| 17381s | lena to even even have that chance like |
| 17383s | a |
| 17384s | weapon plus divine shields breaking |
| 17388s | i think face off was very much in |
| 17390s | control of this game start to finish he |
| 17392s | knew the win conditions there were |
| 17395s | questions to be asked i would say of |
| 17397s | whether lada was really supposed to |
| 17398s | damage face off for small amounts and |
| 17401s | allow a potential zyra but you can |
| 17402s | always make the counter argument of okay |
| 17405s | if you're not damaging them then they |
| 17406s | just shard your board and you lost most |
| 17408s | of your damage because all of your butts |
| 17410s | are gone so it was a tough situation for |
| 17413s | lada no matter what but he is going to |
| 17416s | give us a full tour of his lineup it |
| 17418s | looks like moving on to beast druid |
| 17420s | needs to win with every remaining deck |
| 17422s | against face off's druid |
| 17426s | yeah it's a pretty cool deck i've been |
| 17429s | playing it a bit recently |
| 17432s | actually this |
| 17433s | specific version |
| 17435s | and |
| 17436s | it's |
| 17437s | really fun when you can pop off with |
| 17441s | like multiple gardens and dredges |
| 17444s | in the early game because every minion |
| 17445s | you draw just feels incredibly powerful |
| 17448s | but |
| 17450s | it also feels really bad when you're |
| 17452s | just |
| 17453s | drawing minions in your deck |
| 17455s | and you really don't have the damage |
| 17457s | follow-up that you once did with with a |
| 17459s | b street you do have access to the call |
| 17460s | for your ad up you have access to power |
| 17462s | the wild but uh no arbor up means that |
| 17464s | uh when you're out of stuff you're |
| 17466s | you're out of stuff and if you don't |
| 17468s | find the composting and you're playing |
| 17469s | against a deck that can remove your |
| 17471s | board um then you run out of resources |
| 17475s | seemingly incredibly quickly even if |
| 17476s | your minions are buffed |
| 17478s | uh with the garden so |
| 17481s | i mean earlier on in this tournament i |
| 17483s | expressed disdain for this version of |
| 17485s | druid that didn't include pride's fury |
| 17487s | because i was just like why not run a |
| 17489s | spell that can buff your deck without |
| 17490s | the condition of buff your board without |
| 17493s | the condition of having to dredge it |
| 17494s | first but the more i've seen this |
| 17496s | version with the azsharan gardens |
| 17498s | instead the more i respect that the |
| 17500s | power sealing of this deck is way higher |
| 17502s | than the prides fury version because |
| 17504s | like you said when you do get the pop |
| 17506s | off with multiple gardens it's way more |
| 17508s | total buffs than a pride sphere you can |
| 17510s | afford you so even though it requires a |
| 17513s | pretty specific order of draws |
| 17515s | i can understand the want to go for a |
| 17517s | bit more of a high roll potential and a |
| 17519s | higher power ceiling because that's just |
| 17520s | the matter right now a lot of decks have |
| 17523s | so many hyrule um like interactions they |
| 17526s | can go for especially warrior these days |
| 17528s | but right now face-off is only left on |
| 17531s | the ramp druid which i would think it's |
| 17533s | fair to say any iteration of beast druid |
| 17536s | would be quite an annoyance for ram |
| 17538s | druid to have to face off against |
| 17540s | because they don't want to see minions |
| 17542s | in their early game that's when they're |
| 17543s | busy trying to get their ramp online and |
| 17546s | the mana accumulated but there is a one |
| 17548s | of doomsayer here for face-off which |
| 17549s | could be very clutch in the matchup |
| 17552s | yeah |
| 17554s | could be the difference between a win in |
| 17556s | the loss to be honest uh just a single |
| 17558s | card |
| 17560s | um ooh |
| 17564s | starfish in the opening hand that could |
| 17566s | also be pretty good but obviously you'd |
| 17569s | may not even hit targets |
| 17573s | that are |
| 17574s | even worth silencing and you'd much |
| 17576s | rather have access to the to the mana |
| 17578s | ramp |
| 17579s | right |
| 17580s | it is close we saw i think |
| 17583s | orange keep starfish alongside druid of |
| 17585s | the reef in a similar matchup during the |
| 17587s | swiss and |
| 17589s | even just as a three-mana two-three with |
| 17591s | an upside of silencing whatever effect |
| 17594s | is on board by then from the beast druid |
| 17597s | is decent |
| 17598s | so we'll see if faceoff can kind of |
| 17601s | leverage that tempo in place of a wild |
| 17603s | growth to give himself the time towards |
| 17606s | nourish later |
| 17611s | [Music] |
| 17613s | you see that has hit a gardens no dredge |
| 17616s | effect just yet but |
| 17618s | once he does find one these stats can |
| 17620s | get way out of control insane top deck |
| 17622s | for face off though the jerry rig |
| 17623s | filling out the curve very nicely |
| 17625s | yep |
| 17627s | and leather obviously going for the uh |
| 17629s | coin ram commander knowing that gardens |
| 17631s | can be played just to get the uh |
| 17634s | bigger benefit |
| 17635s | on the buff |
| 17637s | to get the uh the additional uh stats |
| 17640s | in hand you also get a you know and |
| 17643s | most of the time another minion off the |
| 17645s | top since the vast majority of the deck |
| 17646s | is minions so |
| 17648s | uh |
| 17649s | just solid |
| 17652s | is this worth the starfish |
| 17658s | i was gonna say i |
| 17660s | found the idea at least |
| 17662s | worth considering because it is just a |
| 17665s | tempo play on that board where you can |
| 17667s | make the same argument that oracle of |
| 17669s | elune is also a temple play but i felt |
| 17671s | like the oracle of elune had a potential |
| 17673s | higher upside faceoff however is saying |
| 17675s | that no the potential upside of starfish |
| 17678s | is more important here because elune |
| 17680s | doesn't get very strong until he's hit |
| 17682s | the one of druid of the reef or like |
| 17685s | naga giants which are going to take a |
| 17686s | long time to get online so fair enough |
| 17690s | yeah and if you reach the point where |
| 17691s | you're playing naga giants |
| 17692s | in this matchup one's probably gonna be |
| 17695s | enough |
| 17697s | uh because you you |
| 17699s | will most likely have the board at that |
| 17701s | case having played like scale or miracle |
| 17702s | growth or something so |
| 17706s | while growth better late than never even |
| 17708s | though on the immediate future it |
| 17710s | doesn't actually give him any extra |
| 17712s | plays i guess it does in the sense where |
| 17714s | like he could go rampant growth and |
| 17716s | starfish next turn which he couldn't |
| 17717s | have without wild growth |
| 17722s | now |
| 17723s | oh ladder can dredge the gardens now |
| 17726s | yep |
| 17730s | it's strong but it means he can't play |
| 17731s | school teacher this turn if he goes for |
| 17733s | the sunken gardens |
| 17736s | buzz |
| 17737s | gardens |
| 17741s | obviously the sunken |
| 17744s | reflect in the moon oh this is a |
| 17747s | beautiful starfish |
| 17750s | yes it is starfish oh my goodness |
| 17756s | wretching first for |
| 17759s | another nourish i guess |
| 17762s | actually is there any benefit to |
| 17764s | doomsayer |
| 17767s | like if you play it this tur you can't |
| 17769s | play it with the rampage growth and |
| 17771s | starfish this turn but next turn it sets |
| 17773s | up for like a scale doomsayer play which |
| 17776s | gives him time to go for a potential |
| 17778s | uncontested miracle growth which |
| 17779s | probably seals the game |
| 17781s | yeah that's actually really sick |
| 17783s | because with the starfish scale will |
| 17786s | have an easier time cleaning up the |
| 17787s | board next turn right |
| 17790s | and then there's not really going to be |
| 17792s | a way for leda to |
| 17794s | deal with the doomsday from hand would |
| 17795s | have to have overwhelming pressure on |
| 17797s | this turn to where a scale wouldn't |
| 17799s | clear |
| 17800s | and then go for it not that he knows |
| 17802s | that's there but just you know kind of |
| 17803s | thinking down the line into the future |
| 17805s | for what faceoff's uh game plan is then |
| 17807s | if he is able to land the uncontested |
| 17809s | miracle growth i yeah i think the game |
| 17812s | is 100 loft |
| 17814s | let us in a bad enough spot where i |
| 17816s | don't think he can afford to worry about |
| 17818s | scale at this point like it blows up |
| 17820s | pretty much his entire board so just |
| 17822s | pray it's not there and build the |
| 17824s | strongest board you can |
| 17826s | uh it takes aquatic farm over feral rage |
| 17829s | here i was honestly interested in feral |
| 17830s | rage to kill off the starfish but |
| 17832s | clearly lada has bigger things in mind |
| 17834s | which is maybe getting the other gardens |
| 17841s | i didn't even see the third option one |
| 17843s | of them is the gardens we saw from a |
| 17845s | while ago |
| 17849s | alright so if you trade starfish and |
| 17851s | play scale |
| 17852s | one two three four five six |
| 17855s | it's one |
| 17856s | off of a full clear but i think it's |
| 17858s | reasonable to play dooms here against |
| 17860s | the one one and say this is gonna go off |
| 17863s | yeah it would have to be something crazy |
| 17865s | that would allow leda to kill it off |
| 17868s | multiple drew to the reef uh |
| 17871s | or oracle drill to the reef i guess |
| 17872s | would be |
| 17874s | and he actually has it with the ram |
| 17875s | right because it's buffed by sunken |
| 17877s | gardens |
| 17879s | oh yeah |
| 17881s | so there is a clear but it still is a |
| 17884s | pretty good doomsayer and that |
| 17886s | i mean it spends the rest of face-offs |
| 17888s | mana |
| 17889s | yeah |
| 17891s | i like this though leaving a 1-3 instead |
| 17894s | of a one one and keeping his whelp |
| 17896s | because it's really just attack that's |
| 17898s | the only stat that matters here in |
| 17899s | protecting the doom's air |
| 17908s | so yeah we know there's one gardens from |
| 17910s | the dredge i don't know what the other |
| 17912s | option was but lada does know and then |
| 17914s | there's one that he hasn't seen yet |
| 17916s | yep |
| 17919s | actual and guidance |
| 17923s | happily does fill out the turn right |
| 17925s | unfortunately for us spectators he can |
| 17928s | just go for ram wait wait wait |
| 17931s | it's good this time it's 50 50. |
| 17933s | yeah it's 50 50 whether or not it's it's |
| 17936s | face up or face down |
| 17940s | yeah i've seen it like three times face |
| 17942s | up three times face down uh |
| 17944s | when we've been watching this so |
| 17947s | uh the pack mule tally thank you |
| 17949s | yeah |
| 17953s | so the difference that that one minion |
| 17956s | sticking left for lata makes here |
| 17957s | because he has perfectly enough mana to |
| 17960s | kill the dooms here and develop this |
| 17962s | huge of a board and |
| 17964s | it's all the difference in the world |
| 17965s | like faceoff's miracle growth is far |
| 17967s | less effective here than it would have |
| 17969s | been if doomsayer had gone uncontested |
| 17972s | still think it's the play but maybe he |
| 17973s | starts with moonlit and looks for |
| 17975s | another scale first |
| 17983s | anixia is huge if he can just stabilize |
| 17986s | he is looking for earthen skills finds |
| 17989s | it |
| 17993s | okay |
| 18000s | matriarch is available for lata to |
| 18002s | consolidate the sport even further but |
| 18004s | he is gonna go for moonlit first more |
| 18007s | gardens anyone |
| 18009s | not great because it's not the sunken |
| 18010s | version |
| 18017s | but it does make for some very big |
| 18019s | matriarchs uh yeah and at the end of |
| 18021s | this you're just finley |
| 18024s | ooh |
| 18026s | because he gets two of them and it's |
| 18028s | it's it's bored too so it actually |
| 18031s | buffs the the minions on board but it |
| 18034s | would only be |
| 18036s | uh that'd be it right that'd be |
| 18038s | his entire turn right maybe he find |
| 18041s | these only the pack mule away because i |
| 18043s | would really want to play the matriarch |
| 18045s | here |
| 18046s | even if you don't get full access to |
| 18048s | gardens this way |
| 18050s | uh well you |
| 18051s | you'd have to make more trades |
| 18054s | this way because the matriarch would |
| 18056s | summon two |
| 18058s | i guess you're making two anyway yeah |
| 18060s | you put a 3-3 in and then finley and |
| 18062s | then sunk in and then a four-four in |
| 18065s | yeah |
| 18066s | don't make it actually yeah yeah oh it's |
| 18069s | the biggest finley i've ever seen |
| 18072s | it's only gonna get bigger |
| 18074s | yeah |
| 18076s | he does actually miss out on a copy of |
| 18078s | finley with this order but i still think |
| 18080s | this is the ideal way to go about it |
| 18083s | yep |
| 18084s | max damage while also getting the |
| 18087s | matriarchs on board and onyxia this is |
| 18089s | one of the few board states where she's |
| 18091s | just not good enough |
| 18099s | i think that's the game is there any |
| 18101s | amalgam option like if he had two more |
| 18104s | innervates i could look at unwelcome to |
| 18106s | discover deathwing as an out but |
| 18108s | nope not enough mana no guff and play |
| 18113s | uh miracle growth |
| 18116s | is double scales |
| 18120s | survivable it looks like |
| 18122s | but winning |
| 18125s | uh remains to be seen okay naga giant |
| 18127s | okay |
| 18128s | double giant |
| 18130s | and true to the uh wreath actually |
| 18132s | allows undermine can't do it because |
| 18133s | it's going to go double earphone scales |
| 18134s | i was going to say it does allow |
| 18136s | to kill off one of the four fives so |
| 18138s | uh that's a big power turn next turn the |
| 18141s | onyxia is going to be a little bit |
| 18142s | weaker just because you're summoning |
| 18143s | less |
| 18144s | oh no |
| 18146s | oh c 50 50. |
| 18148s | it really is yeah |
| 18152s | and the fact that that's 11 |
| 18155s | is just making for no clean trades for |
| 18158s | letta here whatsoever everything is |
| 18160s | awkward |
| 18162s | like if it were single scale he could go |
| 18164s | four five five seven and hero power in |
| 18166s | but now he needs to trade at least two |
| 18169s | minions and he rather trades three to |
| 18172s | maintain the high health on the |
| 18175s | uh matriarchs which i think is |
| 18176s | absolutely correct because |
| 18178s | uh wasting one of those makes the naga |
| 18180s | giants able to value trade |
| 18183s | yep |
| 18184s | all right |
| 18185s | pacmu alarm |
| 18187s | hey thank you production |
| 18191s | still massive board |
| 18193s | yes |
| 18194s | it never ends |
| 18196s | but |
| 18197s | nixia is quite good here right so both |
| 18199s | eight eights into either |
| 18201s | eight nine i guess |
| 18206s | and yeah now you can drew it of the reef |
| 18209s | innervate onyxia |
| 18213s | i |
| 18214s | does it |
| 18215s | i still don't think he's alive however |
| 18218s | right not |
| 18220s | i i haven't fully counted i confess he |
| 18222s | needs to clear off |
| 18224s | uh |
| 18225s | all but two so the oracle and one pack |
| 18227s | mule |
| 18228s | so this would need to |
| 18232s | he misses one whelp this way but i think |
| 18234s | he had it calculated that he couldn't |
| 18236s | really kill an additional pack mule with |
| 18238s | one additional wealth anyway yeah |
| 18242s | wait no no no |
| 18243s | he's not |
| 18245s | he's off a whelp |
| 18247s | i think |
| 18249s | right if he had one more wealth here he |
| 18251s | could have been alive right if he had |
| 18252s | traded both eight eights into each eight |
| 18255s | nine right was there a way to stay alive |
| 18258s | i think that might have been the line |
| 18260s | yeah because would have had the uh three |
| 18263s | whelps left to kill three three |
| 18265s | obviously wouldn't have had an eight |
| 18266s | four remaining it would have been an |
| 18267s | empty board except for |
| 18269s | raid boss onyxia |
| 18271s | um but that would have been enough to |
| 18273s | stay alive and then from that point you |
| 18275s | do actually have a scale of onixia like |
| 18277s | off the top |
| 18279s | to stabilize even further because you'd |
| 18281s | have you'd be able to hear a power out |
| 18282s | of range because you'd go down to one |
| 18285s | life uh and so you'd have to hear a |
| 18287s | power um so potentially a little bit of |
| 18290s | blunder would have been difficult |
| 18291s | regardless |
| 18292s | because it was just like what amalgam |
| 18295s | uh draw the draw three version of |
| 18298s | nourish yeah um |
| 18301s | so not much to work with once that was |
| 18303s | gone |
| 18304s | but still |
| 18306s | i think |
| 18308s | that he could have stayed alive that |
| 18309s | turn |
| 18310s | yeah i agree it was a mechanical error |
| 18312s | obviously he was in a bad spot no matter |
| 18314s | what like even if faceoff had gone for |
| 18316s | the play that let him be alive at one |
| 18318s | ladder had tons of top decks for lethal |
| 18321s | slash just another board that faceoff |
| 18323s | couldn't answer after that but it's |
| 18325s | still |
| 18326s | turning uh maybe one percent into a zero |
| 18329s | percent so a bit of a slip up from face |
| 18332s | off there but he still has two more |
| 18334s | chances on this druid |
| 18337s | yeah |
| 18338s | yeah there was still double clawfury |
| 18340s | adapt there was power of the wild there |
| 18341s | was one school teacher left to be able |
| 18343s | to find that little bit of extra damage |
| 18345s | so uh there was a lot |
| 18347s | there was a lot that let it could have |
| 18349s | still found so maybe not even in the |
| 18350s | best position but |
| 18352s | nonetheless we move on |
| 18354s | pirate rogue and mech paladin remain for |
| 18357s | letta and you know from the get-go i |
| 18359s | feel like this druid was the deck that |
| 18361s | uh letta was |
| 18363s | trying to target the most |
| 18366s | uh given the lineup and we'll see if |
| 18367s | that's gonna come into fruition here |
| 18370s | yeah could be |
| 18372s | there is |
| 18373s | a lot of one of anti-aggro potential |
| 18376s | tucked in by face off here he is going |
| 18378s | for a bit of the swiss army knife |
| 18380s | approach one druid of the reef one |
| 18382s | doomsayer one starfish one elune and one |
| 18385s | spammy arcanist he doesn't have the one |
| 18387s | of dozing kelp keeper to truly give us a |
| 18390s | full tour of the druid decklist |
| 18392s | possibilities in fact like i think at |
| 18395s | the beginning of swiss one of the |
| 18396s | matches that we had potential for phil |
| 18398s | but didn't show somebody was running a |
| 18400s | reno druid and i'm like i'm not even |
| 18402s | surprised that's a thing it just looks |
| 18404s | like there are so many tech choices you |
| 18406s | can put in through it that it's not |
| 18408s | unreasonable |
| 18410s | but |
| 18410s | it really will depend on whether faceoff |
| 18413s | can hit exactly what he needs at the |
| 18415s | moment because against rogue i think |
| 18417s | it's very important to get a good spammy |
| 18419s | arcanist turn because otherwise it's |
| 18421s | hard to deal with all of those stealth |
| 18423s | minions uh given that |
| 18425s | won't necessarily unstealth them going |
| 18427s | into a scale turn |
| 18429s | yeah |
| 18430s | yeah very true |
| 18434s | with moonlit guidance nothing is ever |
| 18436s | truly a one of |
| 18438s | true |
| 18441s | [Music] |
| 18444s | moonlight guidance |
| 18446s | also as a one of |
| 18448s | then moonlight guidance is then a one of |
| 18453s | very wise |
| 18454s | [Music] |
| 18456s | my head hurts but that is true |
| 18460s | all right |
| 18461s | that is going to be on the rogue |
| 18463s | and |
| 18465s | drew to the wreath opening |
| 18468s | i keep saying wreath |
| 18470s | my brain automatically says wreath |
| 18473s | fruit of the reef |
| 18475s | christmas is the reason |
| 18480s | i mean it's a pretty good curve he just |
| 18482s | gets one three into two three into wild |
| 18484s | growth best you can ask for in this |
| 18486s | matchup honestly |
| 18488s | oh one three into two three into top |
| 18491s | deck the other amalgam earthen scales |
| 18493s | max tempo oh wow |
| 18497s | yeah you'd even pass up wild growth into |
| 18499s | nourish for that oh wow |
| 18501s | even more tempo options dire wolf dire |
| 18504s | frost wolf |
| 18506s | this is it |
| 18507s | amalgam off the top |
| 18509s | you go malcolm scales into dire |
| 18510s | frostwolf |
| 18513s | are you just gm i this on 30. |
| 18517s | amusing |
| 18518s | but man lada throws his hands up he's |
| 18520s | like really you had the perfect curve |
| 18523s | one of druid of the reef into your |
| 18524s | amalgams into wild growth wait till he |
| 18526s | sees the nourish man |
| 18535s | sorry about your curved game plan tj |
| 18537s | nourish into trade hero powers just too |
| 18539s | clean right |
| 18541s | unfortunately yes |
| 18545s | and let us shake in his head he knows |
| 18547s | he's getting druided but can he fight |
| 18549s | back he has vessel |
| 18551s | and he has smite and kavatoa these are |
| 18553s | the heavy hitters of the deck available |
| 18556s | yeah |
| 18558s | and now he has the dredge for the vessel |
| 18559s | next turn |
| 18561s | things are looking up |
| 18566s | could also hold on to the dredge for |
| 18570s | burst with mr smite oh my god |
| 18573s | [Laughter] |
| 18577s | it is guff stuff |
| 18580s | now the question is does face off even |
| 18582s | aquatic form here like obviously you can |
| 18585s | play miracle growth this turn if you get |
| 18587s | it off the dredge but you can aim bigger |
| 18588s | with with guff if you guff hero power |
| 18591s | here you can aquatic farm and play an |
| 18593s | onyxia and draw it all together next |
| 18595s | turn |
| 18596s | yeah |
| 18599s | you can even |
| 18600s | yeah just go |
| 18601s | guft frostwolf |
| 18603s | true |
| 18606s | all right being less greedy here we |
| 18608s | don't get to see the drudge |
| 18609s | unfortunately but it's just gonna be for |
| 18611s | a second aquatic form but now faceoff |
| 18613s | has more info right if he saw an anexia |
| 18616s | at the bottom there i don't think he |
| 18618s | plays second aquatic for him |
| 18625s | [Music] |
| 18634s | it's the hero power but that's fine it's |
| 18636s | fine |
| 18637s | it is fine |
| 18640s | especially if there is onuxia to be |
| 18643s | dredged here that would pretty much |
| 18645s | descend the game i think |
| 18647s | okay |
| 18649s | very |
| 18651s | awkward turn for letta in that his mana |
| 18653s | expenditure is very weird because he has |
| 18655s | to combo the gun fishing to actually |
| 18657s | draw |
| 18658s | on the vessel |
| 18661s | but if he wants you can just tempo the |
| 18663s | restaurant viper actually just spend |
| 18665s | your mana that way |
| 18677s | you trade viper is there anything you |
| 18679s | can get on two that is better than viper |
| 18682s | not really right |
| 18684s | yeah |
| 18685s | i think |
| 18686s | just playing a 3-4 |
| 18688s | because it's not really even any |
| 18691s | value in |
| 18693s | like daggering up because you have |
| 18694s | crabatella |
| 18696s | so |
| 18698s | yeah i like just playing the viper |
| 18700s | use this to shadowstep the fella fisher |
| 18704s | filet fighter philly fighter um to um |
| 18707s | have a guaranteed combo activator for |
| 18710s | the sunken year |
| 18712s | also don't see the dredge |
| 18715s | also burst with mr smite uh it's 10 |
| 18717s | damage from hand currently yeah so big |
| 18720s | deal |
| 18722s | okay so the innervate makes it so that |
| 18724s | face-off can go ibis and then vape |
| 18726s | scales |
| 18728s | huge |
| 18729s | [Music] |
| 18737s | no |
| 18738s | unlikely outcomes here did get all the |
| 18740s | keywords and then the buffs |
| 18746s | now the full face game plan is starting |
| 18748s | to fall apart for lata but he does have |
| 18750s | a pretty good kravatoa |
| 18752s | um there's also a decent boost like |
| 18754s | iva's being bootstrapped after you've |
| 18756s | seen double aquatic form seems pretty |
| 18759s | decent as well |
| 18761s | yeah |
| 18763s | the double prep however is |
| 18765s | uh |
| 18766s | not great this deck doesn't run many |
| 18768s | spells uh whatsoever uh the preps are |
| 18772s | really just there to make sure you can |
| 18774s | get vessels out faster right |
| 18779s | unfortunate but these are unfortunate |
| 18780s | draws for face-off like this giant just |
| 18783s | costs his entire turn i think he still |
| 18785s | has a nourish left with jerry rig |
| 18787s | yep |
| 18789s | but he needs |
| 18790s | something better than that like scale of |
| 18792s | enyxia was close to necessary to deal |
| 18795s | with this board but he's still sitting |
| 18797s | on 30 so |
| 18798s | maybe a bit more breathing room still |
| 18802s | yeah he can get both the giants down um |
| 18806s | oh |
| 18808s | i got it off |
| 18814s | it can't get him down anymore |
| 18822s | yes gail and anexia herself but one turn |
| 18825s | too late could spell the difference |
| 18826s | between victory and game five here can |
| 18830s | lada capitalize |
| 18833s | kabato just to get the four attack |
| 18835s | weapon i think is very reasonable here |
| 18838s | yep |
| 18840s | a lot of damage being pushed |
| 18842s | good amount of damage in hand as well |
| 18844s | with mr smite maybe even able to pick up |
| 18846s | a uh |
| 18848s | two man of pirate along the way next |
| 18850s | turn |
| 18852s | aesop's gonna be quite low all the way |
| 18854s | down to 13. |
| 18856s | ever get hungry when you see krabatoa |
| 18858s | the claw is the tastiest part |
| 18863s | uh no because the claws have eyes |
| 18868s | which would turn me off a little bit |
| 18870s | i mean |
| 18871s | it's gonna be dead when you cook it it's |
| 18874s | fine |
| 18877s | still |
| 18878s | is face-off gonna be done |
| 18881s | did this goose get cooked |
| 18885s | um |
| 18888s | onyxia is not enough to clear everything |
| 18890s | i think but it might be enough to stay |
| 18892s | alive on board |
| 18893s | because |
| 18895s | onyxia herself trades into krabatoa you |
| 18898s | put two scales in a four four one scale |
| 18901s | in a 4-1 and two scales in a 3-3 there's |
| 18904s | still six on board so it's very scary |
| 18907s | but he's just gonna pray that the smite |
| 18908s | isn't there but we got news for your |
| 18910s | face-off it's there |
| 18912s | it's |
| 18915s | there wait sorry yeah if you isolate |
| 18919s | um |
| 18920s | the claw and remove kravato itself it's |
| 18922s | down to two attacks so smite is one off |
| 18925s | currently |
| 18927s | uh but cutlass |
| 18928s | oh yeah cutlass |
| 18930s | is gonna seal it |
| 18934s | all right that means we're going to a |
| 18935s | game number five that one was |
| 18938s | uh quite close |
| 18940s | uh to be honest with faceoffs opening i |
| 18943s | thought it was going to be smooth |
| 18944s | sailing but |
| 18946s | um ended up picking up double giant in |
| 18949s | that mid game which uh slowed down just |
| 18952s | his ability to |
| 18954s | clean up the board |
| 18955s | and next year came to the hand but just |
| 18957s | a little bit too late |
| 18958s | in order to take full control of the |
| 18960s | board so now welcome down to the mech |
| 18963s | paladin |
| 18964s | verse the druid and i think looking at |
| 18966s | the matchups across the board the series |
| 18968s | is playing out |
| 18970s | at least close to as expected |
| 18972s | uh with the druid being the deck that |
| 18975s | faceoff is struggling to get across |
| 18978s | that is true i tend to think that if you |
| 18980s | give druid three chances against you |
| 18982s | know not abysmally unfavorable matchups |
| 18985s | it should get there though and i am in |
| 18987s | the camp of druids not that bad against |
| 18989s | mech paladin but we shall this is |
| 18992s | definitely a match up where early |
| 18994s | doomsayer can be very annoying indeed |
| 18997s | especially if they've gone for like a |
| 18999s | jewel kit setup because dooms here is a |
| 19001s | way of killing a divine shield minion |
| 19003s | without even procking the shield and |
| 19005s | punishing that slow start |
| 19007s | but of course beyond dooms here it's |
| 19009s | still about of course as usual ramping |
| 19011s | up quickly getting to scale of inexia as |
| 19013s | soon as possible and then stabilizing |
| 19015s | with your giants |
| 19021s | tv can get it done |
| 19024s | like you mentioned it's only in one of |
| 19028s | [Music] |
| 19033s | it's the future |
| 19035s | yeah but then you can only play two wild |
| 19036s | growths |
| 19038s | i mean you only need one guff |
| 19040s | you can't play |
| 19043s | unless you get another from winlet |
| 19046s | i i wouldn't even know what to fill out |
| 19047s | the rest of the deck with |
| 19050s | oh so so the list i saw in |
| 19053s | round one was still playing two loves of |
| 19055s | all the good cards but you just kind of |
| 19056s | i'm gonna see the bottom of my deck |
| 19058s | anyway and reno will be active at some |
| 19060s | point which is you know not logic that |
| 19063s | i've tested myself but it looks fun |
| 19066s | yeah so you play like two of aquatic |
| 19068s | scales |
| 19070s | luna guidance |
| 19073s | yeah ramp stuff growth nourish yeah |
| 19077s | okay i could see it i can see it |
| 19079s | it's just one card |
| 19082s | how bad could it be |
| 19083s | the eternal forest |
| 19086s | all right |
| 19088s | so the interesting thing with mech |
| 19089s | paladin is always like do you ever keep |
| 19092s | radar detector some people say yes but i |
| 19095s | happily disagree because if you're |
| 19096s | running stonehearth vindicator you want |
| 19098s | the radar off of that and you hardly |
| 19101s | ever want to play radar on turn two |
| 19102s | anyway |
| 19105s | so i'm on board for lettuce mulligan |
| 19111s | oh |
| 19125s | coin hero power |
| 19128s | you gotta be scrappy with scratch okay |
| 19131s | it is colleen |
| 19134s | okay automaton is scary however that's |
| 19137s | probably the card he wanted to see the |
| 19138s | least onto because |
| 19140s | with this hand his next three turns are |
| 19143s | spoken for |
| 19145s | which means that automaton could get big |
| 19147s | honestly like faceoff had the option to |
| 19150s | kill it this turn without truly wrecking |
| 19152s | his curve right he could have gone |
| 19153s | earthen scales coin hero power instead |
| 19155s | of jerry rigg and still played wild |
| 19158s | growth next turn into nourish or goff |
| 19160s | the turn after i don't know if that was |
| 19162s | worth it but i think it's worth a |
| 19164s | consideration at least because the coin |
| 19167s | as it stands here seems like a bonus |
| 19169s | with this hand like it allows him to |
| 19170s | hero power with guff straight away after |
| 19172s | wild growth but that's pretty much what |
| 19174s | a nourish would do anyway |
| 19177s | true |
| 19179s | [Music] |
| 19181s | this now this automaton is further |
| 19183s | protected |
| 19187s | i think it's fine for letta to kill the |
| 19189s | 1-3 |
| 19191s | because |
| 19191s | three damage increments from face-off |
| 19193s | still come from minions not spell here |
| 19196s | right has to be druid of the reef |
| 19198s | and he only runs one sorry it's gone |
| 19200s | already |
| 19201s | yep |
| 19212s | well |
| 19213s | nothing can stop him now from just going |
| 19215s | wild growth the plan is still to ramp |
| 19218s | but |
| 19219s | the automaton continues to grow and |
| 19220s | bubblebot can protect the board |
| 19227s | yeah face off with the uh the eye roll |
| 19230s | which i mean |
| 19231s | i can't imagine getting much better oh |
| 19234s | okay |
| 19236s | scale doesn't clean up that much |
| 19240s | but it doesn't |
| 19245s | yeah honestly looking at the ini able to |
| 19247s | copy and give shield to the bubble bot |
| 19250s | scale is kind of laughable on the next |
| 19253s | turn |
| 19254s | yeah |
| 19260s | looks like it's going to be a necessity |
| 19263s | however |
| 19264s | yeah true it's pretty much the only way |
| 19265s | faceoff can still stay in the game |
| 19269s | so |
| 19270s | the ini would also buff the automaton |
| 19274s | the four five |
| 19276s | so that means that scale |
| 19279s | can't even get through |
| 19282s | to the bubble bots because they will |
| 19284s | have divine shield but not taunt right |
| 19287s | oh but he's copying the automaton okay |
| 19291s | interesting |
| 19295s | so we'll be able to kill both automatons |
| 19297s | now yes |
| 19299s | and weave in a ramp i suppose |
| 19301s | yeah |
| 19303s | there will be 9 10 11 damage on board |
| 19307s | ludd is just praying for no scale |
| 19309s | because there's no scale he just wins |
| 19311s | right he did go for a slightly greedier |
| 19313s | copy here but it does give him way |
| 19316s | stronger like |
| 19318s | potential to win immediately if there |
| 19320s | isn't a clear on both of them yeah |
| 19330s | and he still ends up with 11 on board |
| 19332s | post scale which is very scary like face |
| 19335s | off is dying very quickly doesn't have a |
| 19338s | naga giant or onyxia or anything really |
| 19341s | to get benefit from earthen scales with |
| 19348s | it |
| 19354s | because you're taking like |
| 19356s | two power off board but adding a million |
| 19359s | power to his hand |
| 19361s | and i think faceoff's posture a few |
| 19363s | seconds ago says it all that is the |
| 19365s | stance of a man who just lost |
| 19368s | three games on druid |
| 19370s | with |
| 19371s | wild growth nourish every single time |
| 19374s | yep |
| 19376s | okay |
| 19377s | arcanist |
| 19379s | uh |
| 19381s | uh there's no one health truly one |
| 19384s | health minion right because the click |
| 19386s | clocker has |
| 19387s | divine shield so yeah can't quite |
| 19390s | activate |
| 19392s | can't deal a damage either |
| 19395s | and take miracle growth but he doesn't |
| 19397s | have mana to play earthen scales on it |
| 19402s | us picks up innervate but he just saw |
| 19405s | that one innervate is |
| 19408s | okay okay |
| 19410s | hope |
| 19411s | there is hope |
| 19413s | but mothership is still super strong |
| 19415s | here |
| 19418s | i don't know how much okay they're |
| 19420s | completely unbuffed right so there has |
| 19422s | to be some math as to |
| 19424s | what order you play mothership slash |
| 19426s | trade your divine shields in |
| 19428s | um |
| 19431s | like if you trade three divine shields |
| 19433s | in the mothership goes up to eight |
| 19434s | attack which means it can |
| 19436s | solo the then eleven eight miracle |
| 19439s | growth |
| 19440s | yeah |
| 19443s | it means that you don't have any further |
| 19446s | board space to play righteous protector |
| 19449s | but i think that's fine you'd rather |
| 19451s | just make sure that the five five and |
| 19452s | the four four can go face guaranteed |
| 19454s | yep |
| 19457s | any argument to playing carryall lets |
| 19459s | you start pushing the button next turn |
| 19461s | but i just feel like you cannot afford |
| 19463s | to trade these two bigger minions |
| 19465s | yeah i get you could to triple trade |
| 19468s | with the divine shields and then carry |
| 19470s | all which |
| 19472s | uh but the trades wouldn't work oh no |
| 19474s | the trades won't work out well you could |
| 19475s | eat before in your face |
| 19477s | keep again wait sheep is nuts but you |
| 19480s | can't oh wait sheep is not spammy sheep |
| 19482s | it's a closet it's a clue does this work |
| 19484s | like the sheep deathrattle goes off in |
| 19486s | the middle right and then spammy can |
| 19488s | keep going or is that how it works |
| 19492s | well it it doesn't matter in this |
| 19494s | instance because the spammy will |
| 19496s | uh hit three times regardless |
| 19499s | uh there's no and then deal two minion |
| 19501s | right |
| 19502s | but yeah |
| 19507s | you're right |
| 19510s | it does go off in the middle though it |
| 19511s | looks like oh my goodness that sheep |
| 19518s | this the sheep that gets faceoff back |
| 19520s | into it he is looking like a near van |
| 19523s | here everything is there's the argument |
| 19525s | for carriel |
| 19527s | yeah |
| 19532s | no |
| 19533s | it's like the new doomsayer from |
| 19536s | shredder |
| 19538s | yeah |
| 19542s | okay |
| 19543s | uh |
| 19545s | i mean catcher |
| 19549s | this mothership is big enough to solo |
| 19551s | the dooms here currently right |
| 19553s | yes |
| 19555s | which is a very big deal because it |
| 19557s | means faceoff doesn't get his free |
| 19558s | development turn he's back to leaning |
| 19561s | back in his chair it's such a roller |
| 19563s | coaster he has another scale but who |
| 19566s | knows how big the minions coming out of |
| 19568s | the mothership are |
| 19575s | has tons of mana to work with though |
| 19577s | here so |
| 19578s | absolutely could start off with the |
| 19581s | enrich |
| 19583s | looking for nyxia that's the big one so |
| 19586s | now three two can go in five five onyxia |
| 19588s | can be played and she can take down the |
| 19589s | mothership by herself and he has one |
| 19592s | whelp into the five two and then five |
| 19593s | whelps to clean up whatever mechs come |
| 19595s | out i think it's a very real shot plus |
| 19597s | the innervate can also gain him nine |
| 19599s | health on onyxia |
| 19601s | all right this is where sheep comes in |
| 19603s | clutch nope |
| 19605s | nope |
| 19607s | but i still think faceoff has turned the |
| 19609s | corner |
| 19615s | i didn't need a sheep this time just a |
| 19617s | big dragon and six whelps |
| 19623s | gia |
| 19626s | time for curio plus mr smite |
| 19628s | what's for real this time for real this |
| 19631s | time indeed |
| 19632s | leviathan can pull mr smite but it is |
| 19634s | not playable right now he still takes it |
| 19637s | which means that he is floating a whole |
| 19639s | lot of mana this turn lana knows what |
| 19642s | his win condition is though |
| 19645s | yep |
| 19647s | oh man i don't think he can get there |
| 19649s | fast enough though miracle growth |
| 19652s | and if |
| 19653s | he's just gonna find the naga giants |
| 19654s | right |
| 19655s | yeah |
| 19658s | can't play him with oracle |
| 19660s | at least this turn |
| 19662s | but can continue to clear up the board |
| 19664s | and |
| 19667s | still have a pretty massive board |
| 19669s | because the miracle growth minion plus |
| 19671s | the raid boss inixia |
| 19674s | in fact he just sets up lethal on board |
| 19678s | yeah not through carry all but lada |
| 19680s | knows there's just no way after this oh |
| 19682s | my goodness |
| 19685s | oh no the sheep |
| 19687s | face off i mean he's holding back a |
| 19690s | smile right now literally covering his |
| 19692s | smile because |
| 19693s | uh |
| 19695s | if that's any minion but sheep |
| 19698s | i no that's not true right because there |
| 19701s | could have been another way to go for a |
| 19704s | a spanking clear right if it were like a |
| 19706s | three health mech which is you know |
| 19708s | there's a lot of them |
| 19710s | yeah |
| 19711s | so |
| 19712s | it was just sort of the icing on the |
| 19714s | cake for spammy to to really come in and |
| 19717s | shine but right |
| 19718s | very close series face-off is going to |
| 19721s | be moving on to the semi-finals solid |
| 19723s | performance from level we've seen them |
| 19724s | on stream multiple times we see both |
| 19726s | these players on three multiple times |
| 19728s | so do you want to give him a shout out |
| 19730s | heck of a performance uh bringing that |
| 19733s | sort of acro line up into the fold uh |
| 19735s | but yet another uh board priest having |
| 19738s | success and moving on to the semifinal |
| 19741s | yes |
| 19743s | is still the headliner even after all of |
| 19745s | that on the truehead uh the other |
| 19747s | headline i want to take away is that's |
| 19749s | another vac paladin losing to druidler |
| 19751s | and uh i don't know |
| 19755s | that still won't stop him |
| 19756s | [Laughter] |
| 19758s | i know nothing can stop that man |
| 19761s | nope |
| 19762s | uh literally unstoppable in in his uh |
| 19765s | unwavering opinions of things |
| 19770s | but yeah i'm |
| 19771s | honestly uh pretty surprised how uh the |
| 19774s | top four is uh is shaping up right now |
| 19778s | in terms of what lineups are actually |
| 19780s | making it there because |
| 19782s | a lot of these uh lineups are uh in that |
| 19785s | minority of lineups where uh all three |
| 19788s | of these players orange msbc and faceoff |
| 19791s | have uh pretty unique four decks in |
| 19794s | terms of like the overall field none of |
| 19796s | them have the most popular lineup or the |
| 19799s | second most popular uh lineup of the |
| 19801s | tournament uh which is kind of cool to |
| 19803s | see those you know fringe k fringe uh uh |
| 19806s | decks in the meta game um feels weird |
| 19809s | calling naga mage french deck because it |
| 19811s | was dominating for |
| 19813s | like three days that's all you saw |
| 19816s | and the boar priest but that's sort of |
| 19818s | the reality we live in uh with the the |
| 19820s | way this conquest tournament has played |
| 19822s | out yeah i think it's very cool that the |
| 19824s | the meta is sort of this wide open in |
| 19826s | terms of the variety of decks that can |
| 19828s | make it all the way and because this is |
| 19830s | the first huge tournament on this |
| 19833s | expansion and post rotation it's going |
| 19835s | to set the standard in the coming weeks |
| 19836s | for |
| 19838s | any other qualifiers coming up just the |
| 19840s | latter meta as well and it goes to show |
| 19842s | there's still a lot to be explored in |
| 19844s | sunken city |
| 19846s | that is right |
| 19848s | um like our backgrounds |
| 19850s | well maybe not yours because it looks |
| 19852s | like what do you mean mine has a giant |
| 19853s | fish that i've been covering this whole |
| 19854s | time |
| 19855s | oh okay |
| 19857s | so there is something to discover i |
| 19858s | thought it was just a |
| 19861s | plate and i have |
| 19864s | a tree |
| 19866s | a tree |
| 19867s | tree tree tree |
| 19871s | all right well that's our third quarter |
| 19874s | final in the books uh we have one more |
| 19876s | coming up next this can be cursed versus |
| 19878s | possessi |
| 19880s | which is going to be |
| 19881s | quite the interesting one um possessing |
| 19884s | coming in i mean he's got a little bit |
| 19886s | of a resume right like just a little |
| 19888s | tiny bit just a tiny bit also playing |
| 19890s | boar priest which i think is the |
| 19892s | headline of his resume we have the |
| 19893s | potential to have three of them in the |
| 19895s | top four which is uh pretty amazing all |
| 19898s | things considered but we are going to |
| 19899s | have to go to a quick break before we |
| 19901s | jump into that one but you're not going |
| 19903s | to want to go anywhere because we got |
| 19904s | plenty more hearthstone to come so |
| 19907s | with that uh we'll be right back with |
| 19909s | the continuation of the top eight here |
| 19912s | at master store board to the sunken city |
| 19915s | [Music] |
| 19965s | oh |
| 19969s | [Music] |
| 19987s | [Music] |
| 20004s | [Applause] |
| 20005s | [Music] |
| 20062s | [Music] |
| 20108s | hello everyone and welcome back we have |
| 20111s | our last quarter final for you guys |
| 20113s | coming up right now and then of course |
| 20115s | we'll move on to semis and finals to end |
| 20117s | out the day i'm raven joining me for |
| 20119s | this one is mr lorenda and i will be |
| 20122s | going through cursed versus possessing a |
| 20124s | pretty interesting matchup lorinda |
| 20126s | because a in the grand |
| 20129s | scheme of hearthstone esports a fairly |
| 20131s | new face in the form of possessi versus |
| 20134s | a fairly older |
| 20136s | face in terms of curse a player at least |
| 20139s | me and you have known for a very long |
| 20141s | time in the scene |
| 20142s | absolutely um found a tournament from |
| 20145s | 2015 that you and me and sottle all |
| 20148s | played in and the top eight was a |
| 20150s | stacked one it was cursed |
| 20152s | um indirent powder |
| 20155s | the dreamhack run about ben |
| 20157s | and larinda |
| 20159s | top eight was incredibly strong and he |
| 20161s | came second in the stream right now |
| 20164s | are you sure |
| 20165s | notice raven was not a name that you |
| 20168s | listed on that top eight but hey it |
| 20170s | happened |
| 20171s | true true um but we do see that both |
| 20173s | players lineups now with the priest |
| 20176s | banned away from possessing and the mage |
| 20178s | banned away from cursed so we are seeing |
| 20180s | a is a bit of a weird lineup clash i |
| 20183s | guess when you look at the lineups |
| 20185s | themselves |
| 20186s | but very very interesting indeed that |
| 20188s | it's specifically like the priest |
| 20190s | combined with the mech mage bands may i |
| 20193s | remind everyone as well so a bit of a |
| 20195s | different bands we're gonna see out from |
| 20196s | both these players but not a different |
| 20199s | starting deck naga demon hunter uh even |
| 20202s | with some you know the likes of the |
| 20204s | surprise factor of mech piled in |
| 20206s | arguably aggro druid mech mage i still |
| 20209s | think naga demon hunter larinder |
| 20211s | definitely the star of this show oh i'm |
| 20214s | not gonna argue that one uh the demon |
| 20216s | hunter absolutely crushes the mech |
| 20218s | paladin the mech paladin intends to ban |
| 20220s | the demon hunter but this lineup isn't |
| 20222s | just how you would expect it to look |
| 20224s | based on the classes at the bottom there |
| 20226s | this is an incredibly aggressive druid |
| 20228s | and it's face hunter which i don't know |
| 20230s | how you do it raven every time i cast |
| 20232s | with you we're casting face hunter even |
| 20234s | in a tournament where there aren't any |
| 20235s | face hunters how do you manage this |
| 20237s | every single time |
| 20240s | girls that's all but yeah face unto it |
| 20242s | cursed again a player who likes to do |
| 20244s | his own thing or at least there isn't |
| 20246s | scared to try out some slightly off meta |
| 20249s | things but uh what isn't going to be off |
| 20251s | meta here is possesses a druid which is |
| 20254s | again the uh i'm not gonna say the usual |
| 20256s | ram |
| 20257s | escaped mana saber's image seemed to |
| 20259s | have escaped along with the mana saber |
| 20261s | itself on that decklist |
| 20264s | but this is going to be the alignment |
| 20266s | through it with lady anacondra and |
| 20267s | obviously celestial alignment and then |
| 20269s | the rest of the deck i guess outside of |
| 20271s | alex straza feels fairly standard you |
| 20273s | know druid at the moment outside of |
| 20275s | aggro does feel like what 26 27 cards |
| 20279s | and then you just decide which version |
| 20281s | you want to play with the last two or |
| 20283s | three and but yeah that is going to be |
| 20285s | the first match up and again um it'll be |
| 20288s | interesting to see if the alignment form |
| 20291s | of druid can really do anything |
| 20292s | different than the regular ramp to try |
| 20294s | and combat demon hunter but as usual |
| 20297s | demon hunter just feels like it's in a |
| 20300s | good spot and especially with curse he |
| 20302s | is playing a |
| 20304s | i'll call it an older version yeah the |
| 20306s | only real difference is it's two bone |
| 20309s | glaives and two battle fiends and this |
| 20312s | looks more like the |
| 20313s | like first list people were coming up |
| 20316s | with um with this aggro demon hunter but |
| 20318s | it's not like those cards are bad so |
| 20320s | it's not like this is a particular |
| 20322s | negative for curse as we open the game |
| 20324s | yep quick more mentions about curses we |
| 20326s | know a lot about possessing anyway um |
| 20328s | he's on team fantasma now they've been |
| 20330s | doing a lot of stuff in the greek scene |
| 20332s | sort of community team that have been |
| 20333s | going pretty strongly um and if you |
| 20336s | wonder where he's been for a while he |
| 20337s | has had to do a years like mandatory |
| 20339s | military service so that has knocked his |
| 20341s | master's tour results back a bit but |
| 20343s | he's back from that now and he is a |
| 20345s | player that |
| 20346s | i say this about a lot of people but |
| 20347s | he's got previous he was good a long |
| 20350s | time ago i think he's somebody we very |
| 20352s | much need to keep an eye on it for the |
| 20353s | rest of the year whatever happens here |
| 20356s | if the first time we see him for a while |
| 20358s | is in the top eight of a masters tall |
| 20360s | then |
| 20361s | yeah that's that sounds like yeah he's |
| 20363s | hard to me he's been playing them but |
| 20365s | just hasn't had the time to prep for |
| 20366s | them at all until sort of this one |
| 20368s | really so here he is and he is prepped |
| 20370s | with all the aggro and honestly |
| 20372s | i'm not looking forward to your smug |
| 20374s | little face with all the aggro that we |
| 20375s | are seeing in this top eight like you |
| 20377s | predicted it right at the start of the |
| 20379s | tournament maybe off stream maybe on i |
| 20380s | can't remember which but you said you |
| 20382s | think it's going to be all aggro i've |
| 20383s | got to be 30. |
| 20385s | well on a secret mourinho go on if you |
| 20388s | make |
| 20389s | predictions for upwards of what seven |
| 20392s | years |
| 20393s | uh-huh we'll eventually get one right |
| 20395s | and uh this is my time to shine |
| 20398s | well i was calling paladin so i've still |
| 20400s | got a chance but i don't fancy his |
| 20401s | chances in this one particularly and |
| 20404s | already cursed |
| 20405s | putting so much pressure here on |
| 20407s | possessi obviously possess you with no |
| 20410s | answer until two turns from now i will |
| 20413s | be able to clear up though with scale of |
| 20414s | iniquity going into those turns |
| 20417s | um but again with the bone glaze if |
| 20419s | enough damage is done you waste a whole |
| 20420s | turn clearing the ball with a scale they |
| 20422s | can just come in look this double fury |
| 20424s | and chaos strike for turns five and six |
| 20426s | or four and five with the coin curse |
| 20428s | already adding it up he can do that i'm |
| 20431s | not gonna |
| 20432s | yeah i think especially with the coin |
| 20434s | coin bone glaive see depends what's |
| 20436s | going to come out here predation okay |
| 20437s | not too bad but coin bone glaive and |
| 20440s | then fiori fury chaos strike on the turn |
| 20442s | that the furies rank up is a big big |
| 20444s | deal of course and honestly i only see |
| 20447s | too many different plays to make i think |
| 20449s | with the coin at this stage in the game |
| 20451s | for the average demon hunter using it on |
| 20454s | bone glaive is probably the best thing |
| 20456s | he can do because |
| 20458s | chaos strike exactly would then require |
| 20460s | something good to be drawn off the top |
| 20463s | and playable and is anything going to be |
| 20465s | drawn that's realistically better than |
| 20467s | just hitting your opponent for 10 over |
| 20469s | two turns and dredging right so i think |
| 20472s | this is solid in general i think that |
| 20474s | was a failed barrage with this snap pick |
| 20476s | from cursed which means you can see the |
| 20478s | plan quite simply here there's gonna be |
| 20481s | seven minions on board all of which |
| 20483s | managed to kill a uh a whelp from scale |
| 20486s | of onixia which means he has ultimate |
| 20489s | just over oh |
| 20491s | wait a minute no yep his 13 next turn |
| 20493s | from the hand we can see if all the |
| 20495s | minions are cleared |
| 20497s | and the problem is |
| 20499s | i think possessee already knows right |
| 20502s | and there's so much damage been pushed |
| 20503s | out by curse now and like i said the |
| 20505s | bone glaive like getting 10 damage by |
| 20509s | the time turn five is over for cursed is |
| 20512s | huge as a bare minimum and then he sat |
| 20514s | on four cards right like the odds on |
| 20516s | what at least two of them being direct |
| 20519s | damage seem very reasonable as an |
| 20521s | expectation |
| 20522s | so i think if any one or two of them is |
| 20526s | direct damage |
| 20528s | i wondered if we'd see this game yeah |
| 20530s | it's actually 14 with the hero power |
| 20532s | anyway but yeah there's essie that was |
| 20534s | what took him a lot of time this term |
| 20535s | working out that how important is that |
| 20537s | extra three armor immediately and to be |
| 20540s | fair the answer is very it's just that |
| 20541s | your opponent has three very cheap |
| 20544s | spells to finish the game off and cursed |
| 20546s | is 1-0 up in the time that it takes |
| 20549s | orange to take play one turn in this |
| 20551s | tournament |
| 20553s | yeah and i think although that looked a |
| 20555s | little bit silly with the the scales |
| 20558s | there from possessing to gain that armor |
| 20560s | i agree it was completely the right play |
| 20562s | because as i was kind of outlining the |
| 20564s | odds on curse not having at least one to |
| 20568s | two extra damage cards whether it's |
| 20569s | weapon buffs or you know felbarats like |
| 20571s | we saw him draw um was so low that |
| 20574s | possession was never realistically going |
| 20576s | to leave he was on what nine health the |
| 20578s | hero power alone for one mana makes it |
| 20581s | six damage as a minimum he did what he |
| 20583s | could but in a blink of an eye as usual |
| 20586s | demon hunter gets the win in the series |
| 20588s | but that's the focus i think that |
| 20590s | possessee has to to sort of uh |
| 20593s | go in on here is that yeah |
| 20595s | that was very one-sided possess he |
| 20597s | didn't get to achieve much that game but |
| 20599s | his insta loss was to demon hunter that |
| 20601s | was probably gonna get a win anyway at |
| 20603s | least i feel so then forget about it |
| 20605s | move on like focus on the two decks |
| 20607s | cursed has left |
| 20609s | yeah it's a banned demon hunter lineup |
| 20610s | and he hasn't been able to ban the demon |
| 20612s | hunter so when he saw these lineups like |
| 20615s | okay well i'm starting off one zero down |
| 20617s | because i can't ban my band deck because |
| 20619s | the mage is even more ridiculous because |
| 20621s | the mage tears through the paladin even |
| 20623s | more because the the sharks just rip out |
| 20626s | the divine shields |
| 20628s | so yeah very much had to ban the mage |
| 20630s | out |
| 20631s | and now it just continues raven look at |
| 20634s | all those ones and twos in this deck |
| 20636s | yeah and this is what you call a subtle |
| 20639s | special because there are no cards on |
| 20642s | the right side of this graphic therefore |
| 20644s | meaning it's an even two of everything |
| 20647s | in here so the double pride fury uh we |
| 20650s | have seen uh at least i know gia |
| 20652s | and i think subtle was saying as well |
| 20654s | that uh pride's fiori just seems like a |
| 20657s | good card even now in aggro druid but |
| 20659s | then we have cards such as park panther |
| 20662s | uh frost wolf kennels uh even honestly |
| 20665s | right now lorenda the andy trucks are |
| 20667s | not a given in beast druid anymore so |
| 20670s | yet again cursed playing a typical |
| 20673s | archetype but definitely just using his |
| 20675s | own build of it or you know maybe a |
| 20677s | build he's worked on with practice |
| 20678s | partners of course but definitely not |
| 20680s | the standard |
| 20682s | yeah there's no arbor up anymore so what |
| 20683s | he's trying to solve by playing the |
| 20685s | prize fury the panther is just that |
| 20687s | little bit of burst that little bit of |
| 20689s | put a question in your opponent's mind |
| 20690s | can without the arbor up they can just |
| 20692s | oh your board's full of troggs okay i |
| 20694s | take seven i don't care |
| 20696s | um but with park panthers and stuff |
| 20698s | chilling in there with a way to buff up |
| 20699s | the frogs can't give them a board full |
| 20701s | of trucks can't leave things up gotta be |
| 20703s | careful park panther might hit you in |
| 20705s | the face everything's going on and on |
| 20707s | top of just the raw aggression um curtis |
| 20710s | has obviously been getting this over the |
| 20712s | line in every round because i think he |
| 20714s | got through on six and two as one of the |
| 20715s | lower seeds but even so he's obviously |
| 20718s | had a great tournament with it and |
| 20720s | possesses going to go in there with the |
| 20722s | uh the hunter which i think might be one |
| 20724s | of his better chances in this particular |
| 20726s | um match up because he is pretty much up |
| 20729s | against it with the rest of his lineup |
| 20731s | yes i was honestly wondering whether he |
| 20733s | was going to do the usual q druid until |
| 20736s | you either win or lose the series um |
| 20739s | because that is again something we see |
| 20741s | certain players lean towards when you |
| 20743s | have a really difficult deck to get over |
| 20744s | the line um but instead possessing is |
| 20747s | going to jump over to the hunter and |
| 20750s | then this is a very very interesting |
| 20752s | match up and i do want to keep an eye on |
| 20754s | how curse chooses to play this because i |
| 20757s | think |
| 20758s | dropping a minion down one by one maybe |
| 20761s | two you know on you know two on turn two |
| 20763s | yeah they're one drops you get what i |
| 20765s | mean um is it necessarily the best way |
| 20768s | to reliably beat quest hunter because |
| 20770s | that's almost what they want you to do |
| 20772s | right um is just play a minion a turn |
| 20775s | and then they kill a minion a turn and |
| 20776s | then suddenly the quest is done and then |
| 20778s | they start just killing you instead so |
| 20781s | trog on one |
| 20783s | fantastic of course for kirsty against |
| 20785s | the quest deck at going first you very |
| 20787s | much like to draw the trog |
| 20789s | but possessing does have a way to kill |
| 20791s | this with just the barbed nets just to |
| 20795s | be annoyed about it but at least it's |
| 20798s | not stacking trucks right |
| 20800s | yeah and curse won't mind it too much |
| 20802s | although his follow-up is bad oh let's |
| 20804s | follow up so right now um because |
| 20806s | obviously it's a quest tick that goes |
| 20809s | missing we'll point out quickly before |
| 20811s | he draws it there is one explosive trap |
| 20813s | in possessions list as well which would |
| 20815s | be rather a nice pick up ah he missed it |
| 20819s | definitely scary though isn't it because |
| 20821s | with the explosive |
| 20823s | it's still not next turn but that's |
| 20826s | where pride's fury can really come in |
| 20827s | close right because we've seen a lot of |
| 20829s | these aggro druids not have |
| 20831s | relevant health buffs in any like |
| 20834s | gardens exists but it doesn't really pop |
| 20837s | off until the mid to late game uh but |
| 20839s | the pride's fiori on curve if these |
| 20841s | trucks start duplicating could be very |
| 20843s | big indeed and possessing |
| 20845s | true for the trade and just saying well |
| 20847s | i can't one shot this truck so i won't |
| 20850s | make more |
| 20852s | not ideal for curse but the um oracle |
| 20854s | might be just an okay play here if he |
| 20856s | doesn't think it's going to get dealt |
| 20857s | with because the trog needs to be dealt |
| 20858s | with kind of first |
| 20860s | and not a lot else going on going into |
| 20861s | four mana we'll get that composting and |
| 20863s | the adept down next turn or the guidance |
| 20865s | depending which way he wants to go so |
| 20868s | not a massive amount of damage though so |
| 20870s | oh |
| 20871s | although possession he's not done |
| 20872s | anything yet he's really not got behind |
| 20874s | yet either |
| 20875s | yeah that's definitely a game winner |
| 20877s | card to the uh b starker tavish but all |
| 20881s | okay i mean |
| 20884s | an option a little bit weird with the |
| 20886s | attack value total so maybe he goes just |
| 20888s | this and then um maybe composting i |
| 20891s | wouldn't have hated to draw for |
| 20894s | these i i guess like the trades are fine |
| 20899s | i would imagine he protects the trogg |
| 20903s | he might although |
| 20905s | maybe the troll going actually make room |
| 20907s | for some bigger things going forward so |
| 20909s | maybe he doesn't mind but you're right |
| 20910s | he does protect it so |
| 20913s | i think he did have to get some stuff on |
| 20914s | the board this turn though it's turned |
| 20916s | four he hadn't done much damage i know |
| 20917s | it mounts up really fast but |
| 20920s | you don't want to get your opponent |
| 20922s | having too much comfort zone and this is |
| 20924s | definitely not comfort zone you can't |
| 20925s | explosive trap this board |
| 20931s | a little go time for possession right |
| 20933s | yeah |
| 20934s | just give the one to rock and play some |
| 20936s | spells this turn |
| 20943s | otherwise you're never doing it |
| 20948s | the problem is |
| 20951s | you will |
| 20953s | want to quick shut this turn |
| 20959s | yeah |
| 20960s | it just depends on how he wants to use |
| 20962s | his mana |
| 20963s | because honestly at this point i'm |
| 20966s | wondering whether the quest is even |
| 20967s | relevant |
| 20969s | so could the one man have been used on |
| 20971s | something else is my question and that |
| 20973s | might not be the case the quest might |
| 20974s | become very very relevant sorry |
| 20976s | especially if this tavis can go off and |
| 20978s | uh he gets the explosive but this board |
| 20981s | with composting is absolutely huge |
| 20984s | because |
| 20985s | this is the thing that |
| 20987s | keeps the game even right like oh the |
| 20990s | full health |
| 20991s | possessing yeah there you go mate yep i |
| 20993s | feel the same way |
| 20995s | i have played hunter against this |
| 20996s | matchup too many times to count and just |
| 20999s | when you think you've got an idea that |
| 21001s | you can survive this happens and now i |
| 21003s | believe |
| 21005s | he |
| 21006s | oh he's not dead he can uh go in with |
| 21008s | the candle shot |
| 21010s | yeah okay well he believes he's dead and |
| 21012s | cursed in another blink of an eye |
| 21015s | it's gonna go 2-0 up now with the druid |
| 21017s | and that again |
| 21018s | very rough game and i think although of |
| 21021s | course the the first trog was a big |
| 21024s | problem i think the second trog was the |
| 21026s | one that pushed him pushed possessing |
| 21028s | out because that was just too much to |
| 21030s | handle and a a really difficult one uh |
| 21033s | to come back from this hunter that's |
| 21034s | that's how hunter loses that matchup |
| 21036s | like i said um and you mentioned as well |
| 21039s | when you go wide all at once there are |
| 21042s | very few cards in the deck that can |
| 21044s | remotely deal with like even half of |
| 21046s | that board never mind the full thing |
| 21048s | yeah you saw there the attack with the |
| 21050s | candle shot the penultimate turn from |
| 21052s | possessing playing into that trap |
| 21054s | playing into possibly |
| 21056s | uh dragon ball shot sort of taking some |
| 21057s | things out as well sort of holding out |
| 21060s | some hope to remove some damage but |
| 21061s | basically he was playing for that trap |
| 21063s | at this point |
| 21064s | and didn't get it it's a one in 21 |
| 21066s | chance wasn't likely to get it but the |
| 21068s | power of the wild you saw him shake his |
| 21070s | head not just cause the amount of damage |
| 21071s | that was coming in but because this now |
| 21073s | cannot be removed by anything |
| 21076s | and yeah just two they can deal with |
| 21079s | just to correct my comment about the |
| 21081s | slight surprise that they concede he |
| 21083s | obviously knew there was another power |
| 21084s | of the wild in the hand right um which |
| 21087s | is then the buff just goes beyond the |
| 21089s | explosive trap again therefore it |
| 21090s | doesn't matter but here we get to look |
| 21092s | at the face hunter from kirsten again a |
| 21096s | lot of focus you know recently i guess |
| 21098s | has been on quest hunter |
| 21100s | but fate hunter is a big threat |
| 21103s | especially with the addition of vicious |
| 21104s | slither spare |
| 21106s | it's such a great minion to |
| 21108s | to get on one because of the buffs you |
| 21111s | run doggie biscuit and then ramming |
| 21113s | mount like if you start stacking that |
| 21115s | not only does casting the buff obviously |
| 21117s | buff its attack for that turn but also |
| 21119s | you start making a really big minion as |
| 21121s | its base that's being one three is huge |
| 21123s | uh but i am very interested to see how |
| 21125s | this version of the list goes especially |
| 21127s | because when i played naga's pride it it |
| 21130s | never felt that strong maybe i was just |
| 21132s | unlucky but it never really went off how |
| 21135s | you want it to happen because it it does |
| 21137s | get a little bit difficult when it |
| 21139s | requires you to have played one let's |
| 21140s | say before turn three |
| 21142s | sure yeah i can see that uh something i |
| 21145s | do really like about this deck is nearly |
| 21148s | every card does multiple things so |
| 21150s | slither spears obviously it's a one |
| 21151s | three that gets bigger okay so what but |
| 21153s | like the known private you get the |
| 21155s | honorable kill just get that cheeky plus |
| 21156s | two attack the scribe you just you know |
| 21158s | you save one manner on your next spell |
| 21160s | on this deck that's trying to run things |
| 21162s | really quickly into you every minion |
| 21164s | pretty much just has a side effect a |
| 21166s | nice little extra thing you don't care |
| 21169s | if you don't get the side effect you're |
| 21170s | just playing the deck out but it all |
| 21172s | acts to give you a little bit more |
| 21174s | agency in what's going on and how you |
| 21176s | play it and i really like it and |
| 21178s | obviously |
| 21179s | it is just also a straight up curved |
| 21181s | deck whether i would have liked it |
| 21183s | before the tournament before i saw |
| 21184s | someone was doing well with it maybe not |
| 21186s | so much because quest hunter's just so |
| 21189s | good but we are going to get to see it |
| 21191s | now for the first time in this |
| 21192s | tournament i want to say |
| 21194s | yeah whereas i'm pretty sure you will |
| 21196s | trust me on this and i will only deck i |
| 21199s | do but uh you would trust me on but yeah |
| 21202s | i've been playing face hunter before the |
| 21203s | tournament as well |
| 21205s | i saw a few lists i believe and i might |
| 21208s | be wrong so i apologize but i believe |
| 21209s | fiori hunter uh either did well in a cup |
| 21214s | or won it i can't remember |
| 21216s | and in the lineup was f a face hunter it |
| 21219s | wasn't this face hunter i don't think |
| 21221s | but it was a face hunter uh so i was |
| 21223s | playing with that for a few days just to |
| 21225s | check it out but yeah you're right the |
| 21226s | merquat scribe as well will proc the |
| 21229s | three mana spell uh again just giving |
| 21231s | you more opportunities to be able to |
| 21233s | play a naga because without that the |
| 21235s | spell is uh significantly weaker |
| 21238s | possessing chucking away some pretty |
| 21240s | good looking cards there because one of |
| 21242s | the things he has to do here |
| 21243s | is |
| 21244s | as i understand it having not seen much |
| 21246s | face hunter is sort of try and stay |
| 21248s | alive and erase to alignment and hope |
| 21250s | you can hold out |
| 21251s | and i think possesses just tilted right |
| 21253s | now and i don't even blame him but you |
| 21255s | know the truck scenario last game into |
| 21258s | trogg into three to this game now |
| 21261s | there's just he's gonna get harpoon |
| 21263s | gunned on curve next turn it's |
| 21266s | definitely gonna feel like it snowballs |
| 21268s | pretty hard but there is ramp a lot of |
| 21271s | it in fact for possessi and this is a |
| 21274s | much more predictable board state to be |
| 21276s | able to clear up from face onto then for |
| 21279s | example the aggro druid that ran health |
| 21281s | buffs so i'm just giggling look at his |
| 21284s | hand |
| 21285s | like the the |
| 21286s | the choices he has even with a what |
| 21289s | appears to be a basic face hunter deck |
| 21291s | already he's got what three ways of |
| 21294s | legitimately deciding to clear up this |
| 21296s | two one |
| 21298s | i think he just plays um face naga and |
| 21300s | quick shot honestly oh he's gonna go |
| 21305s | okay |
| 21306s | forces the trade-in |
| 21308s | which is still fine he retains the trog |
| 21310s | and the three damage he puts into the |
| 21311s | minion he gets by putting into the uh |
| 21315s | oh |
| 21315s | wait nobody |
| 21317s | he retains the spell reduction so next |
| 21320s | turn he can play face target and the |
| 21322s | summon |
| 21323s | yeah |
| 21325s | okay but possessing is getting there i |
| 21327s | mean i'm i'm |
| 21328s | giggling here at how much synergy this |
| 21330s | hunter drawer has and what a curve he's |
| 21332s | got but got to keep an eye on possessing |
| 21334s | here because he is going to have a lot |
| 21335s | of choices if he's still alive in two |
| 21337s | turns time |
| 21339s | uh the alexstrasza might even come in |
| 21340s | handy because it'll be like turn five or |
| 21342s | six that it comes down |
| 21350s | this manner it's a lot |
| 21353s | yeah i mean it's gonna make a lot of |
| 21354s | troggs as well |
| 21357s | there's a lot of trucks but what i was |
| 21359s | saying earlier about twogs you know you |
| 21361s | can just load up a one-two board and say |
| 21362s | okay |
| 21364s | you didn't take the doggie biscuit and |
| 21366s | now you've got this board of one twos to |
| 21368s | mess around with yeah this is powerful |
| 21370s | this turns off the |
| 21372s | razz uh turn as well i bet he picked the |
| 21374s | summon as well didn't he yeah he did i |
| 21376s | thought yeah okay yeah i mean this the |
| 21378s | play is strong |
| 21380s | but obviously this is like the weird |
| 21381s | counter it's like hi you can't play more |
| 21383s | minions if the board's full |
| 21386s | might want the doggy biscuit this time |
| 21388s | you know you're getting cleared but even |
| 21389s | so |
| 21390s | i mean biscuits still fine to drop on |
| 21392s | and that's right |
| 21394s | yep absolutely |
| 21397s | and there's still a reduction so if he |
| 21399s | really wanted to he can save the |
| 21401s | reduction the next turn if this board's |
| 21403s | cleared play like nas |
| 21405s | biscuit with quick shot as well yeah and |
| 21408s | then it's aimed shut here power the turn |
| 21410s | after |
| 21411s | he's just going to bank it okay |
| 21413s | yep that was i mean it's fine his |
| 21415s | opponents are like no health so |
| 21416s | possesses probably just going to die if |
| 21418s | he plays welps so |
| 21420s | he is though isn't it it's just very |
| 21422s | quick shot here at power gg and cursed |
| 21424s | is 3-0 win and we've only just started |
| 21427s | whoa whoa |
| 21429s | all right |
| 21430s | next turn |
| 21431s | oh yeah it's actually the spell don't |
| 21433s | reduce forever if it was i would stop |
| 21435s | casting and go and play hunter now |
| 21438s | i'm sorry it's okay i'm just reigning |
| 21441s | you in i know it's exciting that curse |
| 21442s | has just won it well potentially won a |
| 21444s | series of hearthstone in like 10 minutes |
| 21446s | but still |
| 21447s | doesn't |
| 21448s | need to think about potential |
| 21450s | problems because now there's a chance |
| 21453s | that the naga giants and scales are in |
| 21456s | hand right because they're massively |
| 21458s | reduced but |
| 21460s | that would mean the exact four i guess |
| 21463s | if you count the draw of the top he |
| 21464s | knows one is enrich he knows that for a |
| 21467s | fact |
| 21467s | it would need like these exact three |
| 21469s | cards two of them to be naga giant and |
| 21472s | scale to have |
| 21473s | any real chance he knows both innovates |
| 21477s | are used right yes that's it also can't |
| 21480s | be it can't be miracle growth into |
| 21482s | innovate scales either |
| 21485s | yep |
| 21486s | and this is good right this just goes |
| 21487s | wide again and says okay well that's |
| 21489s | three damage |
| 21491s | if you play scales again |
| 21494s | you'll be able to push even more you |
| 21495s | know |
| 21497s | possession has just |
| 21499s | looks like tj's cameras just slowly |
| 21501s | slumping off the screen |
| 21503s | inch by inch through this particular |
| 21505s | match |
| 21509s | i can understand it there's an architect |
| 21512s | i took farm can still fish |
| 21518s | oh and lick a steel |
| 21520s | and he would get two obviously can't |
| 21521s | play them both this turn if he did that |
| 21523s | was an instant |
| 21526s | push him up to 12 |
| 21528s | don't think that's enough |
| 21531s | no it's nowhere near enough we're then |
| 21533s | on board and just like that there you go |
| 21536s | lorinda costa's won now |
| 21538s | tons of damage double biscuit into quick |
| 21541s | shot for absolute max damage here and |
| 21544s | curse just like that |
| 21546s | 3-0 with his a very unique aggro lineup |
| 21549s | and possessing waves goodbye and again i |
| 21552s | feel for possessing because it's not the |
| 21554s | most fun series for him of course he |
| 21556s | just kind of got steamrolled at every |
| 21558s | single game |
| 21560s | but as usual i think possesses continue |
| 21563s | to show that he's not going anywhere for |
| 21565s | a while yet they're absolutely amazing |
| 21567s | making a name for himself in asia |
| 21569s | pacific grand masters and then this |
| 21571s | masters tour boom up there in top eight |
| 21574s | absolutely great performance from him |
| 21576s | but yeah curtis just there got the job |
| 21578s | done right that was absolutely brutal |
| 21581s | yeah and this is the part where i |
| 21582s | normally say it's a shame that possesses |
| 21584s | not won anything big blah blah blah he's |
| 21585s | the world champion yes of course |
| 21588s | you know it took him a few years to get |
| 21590s | there he had a lot of top four top eight |
| 21592s | type finishers and again this is the |
| 21594s | part where i normally would have said |
| 21596s | it's a shame he's never won a big one |
| 21597s | he's won the big one now so |
| 21599s | a lot easier to stomach when you get a |
| 21601s | top four to masters tour top eight on |
| 21603s | top of winning the world championships |
| 21605s | and also rightly or wrongly |
| 21608s | as a community we judge world champions |
| 21612s | a lot of the time based on what they do |
| 21614s | after they become a world champion which |
| 21617s | seems harsh right but this is what |
| 21619s | happens and the fact that you know yeah |
| 21622s | you know became a world champion he's |
| 21623s | still rocking in high scores in big open |
| 21626s | tournaments as well like master masters |
| 21628s | tour that we're doing this weekend super |
| 21630s | impressive from possessive but he just |
| 21632s | could not stem the tide there from |
| 21634s | cursed so there you go guys that is our |
| 21636s | top four here orange vk msb c |
| 21640s | a lot of letters there and faceoff and |
| 21644s | curse are going to be the top four and |
| 21646s | um i'm okay with it and i think it was |
| 21647s | pretty obvious across the board that |
| 21650s | with our top 16 starting the day i would |
| 21653s | have been okay with almost any of them |
| 21655s | yeah with any of them making it into top |
| 21657s | four into finals in fact uh and onwards |
| 21660s | so it's a really impressive group of |
| 21661s | players but i am excited for this top |
| 21664s | four linda because my prediction in the |
| 21667s | form of orange is still in |
| 21669s | i deliberately i have to admit did not |
| 21672s | pick |
| 21673s | orange i had to dodge the curse |
| 21675s | i just i don't believe in curses it's |
| 21677s | unlucky to be superstitious raven but |
| 21680s | yeah i didn't want to pick orange and |
| 21681s | have him not win the tournament i'm too |
| 21683s | biased i've got to admit it i'm not |
| 21685s | casting any of his matches so i'm good |
| 21686s | to go on that one um especially i've |
| 21688s | been happy with habu so i wasn't |
| 21689s | particularly biased in that one but yeah |
| 21691s | i'm a biased person so i didn't pick |
| 21693s | orange i picked possessi |
| 21694s | that went well yeah i'll be casting his |
| 21698s | is one of his matches definitely because |
| 21699s | i'm casting the finals lauren |
| 21701s | oh nice confidence and it's going to |
| 21703s | ruin me because it probably means orange |
| 21704s | will lose no in my prediction history |
| 21707s | but yeah that was lightning fast i |
| 21709s | almost feel bad to leave everyone so |
| 21711s | quickly but we are going to go to a |
| 21713s | break while we set up our first |
| 21715s | semi-final don't go anywhere we'll be |
| 21717s | right back |
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| 22095s | welcome back everyone to masters tour |
| 22098s | voyage to the sunken city my name is |
| 22100s | soto i'm joined by gia and we are here a |
| 22102s | little bit early than might have |
| 22104s | reasonably been expected after that last |
| 22106s | quarter final absolute stomping from |
| 22110s | curse but honestly i think he was just |
| 22112s | doing gear a favor because gia's got |
| 22114s | this incredible thing called a social |
| 22115s | life she's going to have to deserve us |
| 22116s | and go to a party pretty soon so you |
| 22118s | must be absolutely loving life right now |
| 22121s | i mean it's got its pros and cons |
| 22123s | because i did predict priscessie to win |
| 22125s | the whole thing just out of apac loyalty |
| 22128s | and that did not go very well for me in |
| 22130s | fact it went pretty much the opposite |
| 22133s | how quickly he got stomped there but |
| 22134s | it's an impressive showing and |
| 22136s | definitely a showing for the variety |
| 22138s | that we're seeing in this meta game here |
| 22140s | in the top eight i think lorinda |
| 22142s | mentioned that just none of the most |
| 22144s | popular lineups actually made it through |
| 22147s | to the top eight and so we're seeing |
| 22148s | people that uh going for their own thing |
| 22151s | is working out for them here and at the |
| 22153s | foremost of that i would say is orange |
| 22156s | rocking the naga mage all the way here |
| 22158s | in the top four |
| 22161s | yeah and i'm very pleased to finally be |
| 22163s | casting an orange series i've managed to |
| 22165s | dodge them throughout the tournament so |
| 22166s | far |
| 22167s | orange was my prediction for the |
| 22169s | tournament as well as ravens i think |
| 22171s | after i started to see how well this |
| 22172s | lineup was performing for the group that |
| 22175s | picked it orange habugabu of course who |
| 22177s | also made it to top 16 and then fury |
| 22179s | hunter as well |
| 22180s | who |
| 22181s | let's call it what it is would also be |
| 22183s | in top 16 if he could get out of bed on |
| 22186s | time in this tour |
| 22187s | because he was 6-2 with a default loss |
| 22190s | for a late check-in so |
| 22192s | obviously this lineup is massively well |
| 22194s | performing you know my general very |
| 22195s | basic formula for doing predictions is |
| 22199s | line up strength modified by a |
| 22200s | multiplier of play of |
| 22202s | player strength so when you have a |
| 22204s | lineup that's showing itself to be this |
| 22205s | good piloted by a player as strong as |
| 22208s | orange that is an absolute no-brainer |
| 22210s | for me looks like we're going to be |
| 22212s | kicking things off with the quest hunter |
| 22214s | obviously we just saw face hunters |
| 22216s | moment to shine just a few minutes ago |
| 22218s | jia and it was literally just a few |
| 22220s | minutes |
| 22221s | but how do you feel do you still think |
| 22222s | uh quest hunter was was the bring over |
| 22224s | face hunter for this tournament |
| 22226s | i do think so just over a wider spread |
| 22228s | of matchups i feel that quest hunter |
| 22230s | covers so many things better than face |
| 22233s | hunter does outside of exactly the druid |
| 22235s | match up if you're okay with losing to |
| 22238s | druid once if it's in the lineup for |
| 22240s | orange here i think quest hunter just |
| 22241s | has |
| 22242s | almost favorables across the board there |
| 22244s | with the inclusion of the stalker tavish |
| 22245s | you're able to beat even control |
| 22247s | warriors |
| 22248s | whereas face hunter has a much more |
| 22250s | polarized matchup spread and what you |
| 22252s | said about predictions being based on |
| 22255s | lineup strength modified by player |
| 22257s | strength honestly i should have just |
| 22258s | gone for orange too because the fact |
| 22260s | that he doesn't need to fly anywhere |
| 22263s | means that his only weakness has been |
| 22265s | taken out of the equation as well |
| 22267s | yeah we talked about how uh fury hunter |
| 22270s | would have been in top 16 if he could |
| 22271s | get out of bed on time if orange could |
| 22273s | catch a flight he'd be three-time world |
| 22275s | champion by now |
| 22276s | this is calling what it is |
| 22278s | um but yeah we've got boar priest on the |
| 22280s | other side now coming out from msbc |
| 22283s | uh how do we feel about msbc's lineup |
| 22285s | because you talked about the strength of |
| 22287s | druid and how you know you can build a |
| 22289s | lineup that just concedes a win to druid |
| 22290s | and it's fine about that you can target |
| 22292s | druid uh on the other side for msbc we |
| 22294s | have the no druid whatsoever lineup with |
| 22297s | this boar priest and the unique naga |
| 22300s | ping mage coming into it as well how do |
| 22301s | you feel about this lineup |
| 22303s | i feel it's much more of a wild card i |
| 22304s | honestly couldn't place my finger on |
| 22306s | what it is trying to target uh so much |
| 22309s | so maybe these are just the decks that |
| 22311s | msbc feels most comfortable with and |
| 22313s | overall they all have a pretty decent |
| 22315s | power level i'll admit i don't have a |
| 22316s | lot of practice on the ping variant of |
| 22319s | naga mage but i'd assume most of its |
| 22321s | match-ups are similar to regular naga |
| 22324s | mage with the |
| 22326s | sort of upside that you have slightly |
| 22328s | more of a top-end late-game win |
| 22330s | condition with the dawn grasp and the |
| 22332s | more dresh but maybe a little bit less |
| 22333s | consistency of going super wide on board |
| 22335s | so i'd imagine it loses some percent |
| 22337s | against the likes of quest hunter but |
| 22339s | gets a bit better against warrior for |
| 22341s | example uh but leading that up if we |
| 22344s | take those two things into account for |
| 22346s | orange's lineup then i guess msbc would |
| 22349s | rather have regular naga mage the boar |
| 22351s | priest is another one that's a bit of a |
| 22353s | wild card though i am still |
| 22355s | thinking that this deck is mainly in |
| 22357s | lineups to beat up on control warriors |
| 22359s | but yet again that's not in orange's |
| 22361s | lineup so this could be a tough one for |
| 22363s | msbc it could be yeah it's weird right |
| 22366s | you're one step away from calling this |
| 22369s | lineup from msbc a target control |
| 22371s | warrior lineup right and then like |
| 22373s | it's target control warrior plus the |
| 22375s | mirror and then there's just aggro demon |
| 22377s | hunter in there |
| 22378s | you just completely forget about what's |
| 22380s | going on you forget where you are you |
| 22381s | don't know what's real anymore it's a |
| 22383s | very very strange lineup indeed uh but i |
| 22386s | do think you are right in your |
| 22387s | assessment that whatever it's trying to |
| 22389s | do it's whiffed against orange and i |
| 22392s | would peg orange as a decent favorite in |
| 22395s | this one there might be a few x factors |
| 22397s | in there that we don't understand |
| 22398s | because they're kind of rare matchups |
| 22399s | like regular naga mage versus naga ping |
| 22402s | mage that kind of thing like where where |
| 22404s | exactly that kind of thing is going to |
| 22406s | fall out but overall i would expect |
| 22408s | orange to be a pretty big favorite |
| 22411s | overall in the series |
| 22413s | which you know has to in my mind make |
| 22415s | him a pretty big favorite for the |
| 22416s | tournament although there is a very |
| 22418s | scary opponent waiting for him in the |
| 22421s | finals because once he gets through to |
| 22423s | that if he does get there |
| 22425s | with his druid in his lineup then he |
| 22428s | could just we could just be seeing a |
| 22429s | very rapid repetition of what we saw |
| 22432s | happen to possessi and both of our |
| 22434s | predictions will just get stomped in 20 |
| 22436s | minutes you never know it could happen i |
| 22438s | mean curse just has the trog magic i |
| 22440s | mean it's possess you did it to win the |
| 22442s | world championship many players did it |
| 22444s | to win their respective seasons of grand |
| 22446s | masters and cursed could do it even in a |
| 22449s | new expansion and post-rotation proving |
| 22451s | that troggs are still the way to go who |
| 22454s | knows subtle but for this matchup in |
| 22456s | particular we do have the bands already |
| 22458s | locked in orange choosing to get rid of |
| 22460s | warrior which i think he has been |
| 22462s | banning as a priority throughout the |
| 22463s | tournament even though demon hunter also |
| 22465s | seems like a bit of a threat to his |
| 22467s | lineup it is very much possible that he |
| 22470s | just says okay either one of these two |
| 22472s | i'm gonna ban one accept a loss to |
| 22474s | another and then be very strong against |
| 22475s | the rest of the remaining decks which i |
| 22477s | think holds true even against msbc but |
| 22480s | msbc's choice to get rid of druid on the |
| 22482s | other side i think is also playing into |
| 22484s | a bit of the fact that his naga mage is |
| 22486s | less likely than regular naga mage to |
| 22489s | get a huge board pop off because he has |
| 22491s | a paint package |
| 22492s | yup completely agree with all of that uh |
| 22496s | we are getting into the series now just |
| 22498s | had a little bit of a momentary delay |
| 22500s | getting msbc's face on camera as we did |
| 22503s | have some problems with in the previous |
| 22504s | series so fingers crossed it holds up |
| 22506s | and is stable this time around we are |
| 22508s | going to kick things off quest hunter |
| 22511s | versus boar priest geo where do you |
| 22513s | stand on this matchup |
| 22514s | i think slightly uh quest hunter favored |
| 22517s | because they do have so much damage that |
| 22519s | they can get to the point where even the |
| 22522s | double desperate prayer double flash |
| 22524s | heal is not necessarily enough for the |
| 22526s | priest to stabilize but in the hands of |
| 22529s | a skilled player boar priest can |
| 22531s | definitely get the job done quest |
| 22532s | completion even like a couple turns post |
| 22535s | cabbage can still be enough as long as |
| 22537s | you are able to beat down |
| 22540s | the quest award itself you're able to |
| 22542s | raise your damage once the hunter is |
| 22544s | down to one |
| 22546s | mana and it's a very spectacular opening |
| 22548s | hand for msbc honestly with the |
| 22551s | amulet kept to be traded immediately |
| 22553s | because you have nothing better to do on |
| 22554s | turn one then he hit the thrive and can |
| 22556s | follow it up with switcheroo and an |
| 22558s | active handmaiden whenever he wants it |
| 22560s | by that point because the illuminate can |
| 22561s | also be weaved in as the third spell |
| 22564s | yeah and i think you saw msbc kind of |
| 22566s | planning out that curve step by step on |
| 22568s | that previous turn as well as to whether |
| 22570s | there was any chance the illuminate was |
| 22572s | worth uh being played kind of ahead of |
| 22574s | curve in this position decided against |
| 22576s | it in the end which i think was pretty |
| 22578s | wise with the way the curve will pan out |
| 22581s | and |
| 22582s | now just dropping that thrive in the |
| 22583s | shadows picks up desperate prayer which |
| 22584s | is the card you highlighted is very very |
| 22586s | important in the matchup which |
| 22588s | absolutely will be uh not in the least |
| 22591s | just because of raw healing but with a |
| 22592s | switcheroo there's always a decent |
| 22594s | chance you're gonna pick up a zyrella as |
| 22596s | well which means then that desperate |
| 22598s | prayer could perhaps interact very |
| 22599s | nicely with an early director from the |
| 22601s | opponent if that's what you're looking |
| 22603s | to deal with |
| 22604s | that's right drexar uh definitely one of |
| 22606s | the threatening ways that hunter can |
| 22608s | approach the matchup aside from just |
| 22610s | pointing out their damage spell's face |
| 22611s | but we saw the keep of bee stalker |
| 22613s | tavish from orange which also kind of |
| 22616s | clues us into him uh thinking about |
| 22618s | going for just animal companion spam |
| 22621s | which you can do against priests also |
| 22623s | they don't have unlimited board clears |
| 22625s | especially if you kind of parcel them |
| 22627s | out two to three minions per turn and |
| 22628s | then you threaten lethal just by having |
| 22630s | further burst spells in hand |
| 22633s | i have to say it just because my brain |
| 22634s | made me animal companion |
| 22639s | that's nothing moving on uh yeah orange |
| 22642s | on the other side just choosing to rip a |
| 22644s | dragon bane shot at face which i think |
| 22646s | is perfectly reasonable it's not a match |
| 22648s | up where you're going to get a ton out |
| 22650s | of repeated value |
| 22651s | from the dragon bane shot by killing |
| 22653s | minions so i think sensible here just to |
| 22654s | spend the mana on progressing the quest |
| 22656s | and fire that spell at face yeah that's |
| 22659s | right and if he is going for turn five |
| 22662s | coin tavis which i would have to believe |
| 22663s | is the plan if you are keeping that hero |
| 22665s | card then ideally he wants to not be |
| 22669s | done with quest stage two before turn |
| 22671s | five because you want the hero card in |
| 22673s | play and then you get your hero power |
| 22675s | down to zero for the rest of the game |
| 22677s | and then you can do um after tavish |
| 22679s | quest reward refreshing animal |
| 22681s | companions so he has to plan out his |
| 22683s | next couple turns without necessarily |
| 22686s | playing more than two damage spells |
| 22689s | because he's currently at one so it |
| 22690s | still kind of works out right he could |
| 22692s | spend this turn either playing treasure |
| 22694s | guard or aim shot and then the other one |
| 22695s | on the next turn plus um arcane shot and |
| 22698s | then have tavish into one other spell |
| 22701s | afterward and that will put the hero |
| 22702s | power to zero |
| 22704s | yeah obviously first step of the quest |
| 22707s | does not really affect the tavishiro |
| 22708s | power at all try as you might you won't |
| 22710s | be able to target your mishas and leocks |
| 22712s | into various other minions on the board |
| 22714s | doesn't work like that unfortunately so |
| 22716s | you do have a little bit of wiggle room |
| 22718s | before you decide which way you are |
| 22719s | going but the b stalker tavis plan is |
| 22722s | certainly a reasonable one in this |
| 22723s | matchup because |
| 22725s | as you were saying even after you get |
| 22726s | pushed down to that one manner with the |
| 22728s | sword of a thousand truths if it does |
| 22730s | get to that point uh zero mana animal |
| 22732s | companions can still have a significant |
| 22734s | impact on the game at that point |
| 22736s | right |
| 22738s | and they will build a threatening board |
| 22740s | multiple ones of them because msbc |
| 22742s | technically |
| 22744s | the |
| 22745s | big aoe available to bar priest is in |
| 22747s | three big waves right the pyro one the |
| 22750s | pyro two and the xyrella after that they |
| 22752s | don't really have ways of regenerating |
| 22754s | more of those unless they are running |
| 22756s | zola but that's not the case for um msbc |
| 22760s | all of the minions only their base |
| 22762s | amounts available |
| 22765s | yeah there is the one light bomb thrown |
| 22767s | in on top of that that can deal with one |
| 22769s | more board state but yes certainly you |
| 22771s | do run out of ways to deal with boards |
| 22773s | uh very very quickly which is one of the |
| 22776s | problems you can run into in the druid |
| 22778s | matchup i was talking a little bit |
| 22779s | earlier on the ball priest only holding |
| 22781s | up a 30 win rate against druid in this |
| 22784s | tournament which is a little lower than |
| 22786s | i might expect and it's probably a big |
| 22788s | part of the reason why there are not too |
| 22789s | many ball priest players hanging around |
| 22792s | in this top eight now this top four uh |
| 22794s | orange now choosing to rip the wound |
| 22797s | prey there is the uh first step of the |
| 22799s | quest complete as jia's pointed out if |
| 22801s | he is gonna want to go now for this |
| 22803s | tavis plan he only has the luxury of one |
| 22805s | more spell to cast looks like he's |
| 22807s | choosing to use that on a name shot |
| 22809s | yeah it works out perfectly mana spent |
| 22812s | and then he's able to spend the next |
| 22814s | turn on cointavish and then can get the |
| 22817s | next stage done with either the other |
| 22819s | aim shot or the |
| 22821s | uh |
| 22823s | arcane shot but it is a bit awkward |
| 22825s | in the sense that if it is straight away |
| 22827s | cointavish he loses the extra buff from |
| 22829s | the aim shot on the hero power because |
| 22831s | it does get replaced but i don't think |
| 22833s | that's a big priority at this point |
| 22838s | uh i think msbc has just done on amulets |
| 22840s | now by the way i think he just traded |
| 22842s | back in a two amulet which is now a |
| 22845s | three amulet and so now if we're looking |
| 22846s | at the if we're looking at the other |
| 22848s | amulet being a two it looks like he's |
| 22850s | just done already at this point |
| 22852s | great so he just needs to find the other |
| 22854s | boar with one in hand he can actually |
| 22856s | get the |
| 22857s | um |
| 22858s | boars dead very very soon here it's not |
| 22861s | like a regular combo deck where it feels |
| 22864s | like |
| 22865s | when you have this many sort of moving |
| 22867s | parts to it that you absolutely need to |
| 22868s | hit the bottom of your deck to get |
| 22870s | everything done but that's not always |
| 22871s | the case with boar priest |
| 22875s | yeah and with one of those amulets |
| 22876s | costing zero and with double cleric and |
| 22879s | pyromancer in hand if he was to say just |
| 22881s | like top deck the second boar next turn |
| 22884s | he might just be able to immediately do |
| 22886s | it all in some percentage chance if he |
| 22888s | really wanted to go for it i'm sure he |
| 22890s | wouldn't because there's no reason to |
| 22891s | but this is an incredibly |
| 22893s | rapid ball priest raw from what we're |
| 22895s | seeing so far |
| 22897s | orange with a slight hesitation as to |
| 22900s | whether he wanted to commit to the |
| 22901s | tavish game plan because he did just |
| 22903s | draw a second arcane shot and if you |
| 22905s | look at his hand it is completely |
| 22907s | stacked in the damaged game plan and it |
| 22909s | could get there over a couple of turns |
| 22911s | but it does sort of discount healing |
| 22914s | from msbc as a counter and they almost |
| 22916s | always have healing so orange sticking |
| 22919s | with his initial game plan i'm just |
| 22921s | gonna stop you right there because the |
| 22923s | tavish game plan is better for board and |
| 22925s | for damage like your regular hunter hero |
| 22928s | power only does two damage to face the |
| 22930s | tavis hero power does four damage to |
| 22931s | face every time you activate it that's |
| 22933s | just strictly better |
| 22936s | one out of three times it happens every |
| 22938s | time exactly |
| 22946s | you're absolutely right that is the |
| 22947s | amulet's done so now msbc needs to find |
| 22950s | the other boar and he is golden um just |
| 22953s | going to throw out the desperate prayer |
| 22955s | into the improved ice trap |
| 22958s | it is kind of a question of hand space |
| 22960s | now though because i think the |
| 22961s | handmaiden still needs two spells played |
| 22963s | and obviously he doesn't really want to |
| 22965s | trade the amulets back he needs to |
| 22968s | either give up on a cleric at some point |
| 22970s | or accept that |
| 22972s | one of them is just not getting much |
| 22974s | value |
| 22980s | it looks like the handmaiden did only |
| 22981s | need one |
| 22983s | he can just drop it now look for |
| 22985s | something else to dump |
| 22986s | flashiell looks fine shadowhead devourer |
| 22989s | also looks fine |
| 22990s | or you could just reprayer here while it |
| 22992s | costs two and has two mana to spare yeah |
| 22994s | that's such a good point |
| 22998s | i'm bored with that |
| 23000s | so he does have to consider though how |
| 23003s | to actually get draws from these clerics |
| 23006s | because at the moment he doesn't have |
| 23007s | gift of the naaru which is the best way |
| 23009s | of |
| 23010s | procking that with the pyro |
| 23013s | and he probably won't have that many |
| 23016s | minions to |
| 23018s | deal up with depends how much orange is |
| 23020s | able to use his hero power over the next |
| 23022s | couple turns but this is still just |
| 23024s | quest stage two that he's about to |
| 23025s | complete no tavis quest reward yet so |
| 23027s | the spam the companions are still a |
| 23030s | while off it's fine you don't have to go |
| 23034s | with that one we can ignore that was |
| 23035s | ever said it's okay |
| 23037s | i wanted to attempt it though and can |
| 23039s | confirm it really does not roll off the |
| 23041s | top no it doesn't it's not good is it |
| 23046s | shot clearing up getting the zero mana |
| 23049s | hero power at the very least there you |
| 23051s | go four damage to face as expected |
| 23055s | i should never have doubted |
| 23058s | the sufferer just looking down at its |
| 23060s | brethren the boar |
| 23062s | with contempt |
| 23064s | don't talk to me or my son or my son or |
| 23066s | my son or my son or my son or my son or |
| 23069s | my son ever again the seventh son of the |
| 23071s | seventh son |
| 23075s | oh my |
| 23080s | yeah like this just get it done play the |
| 23082s | uh the other tavish on curve next turn |
| 23085s | furious how encourages you to dump the |
| 23087s | hand here anyway this all makes a lot of |
| 23088s | sense to me |
| 23091s | i get a lot as well |
| 23093s | and right now msbc still has his hand |
| 23096s | space issues but that's a gift of the |
| 23098s | naru now he can draw what for with |
| 23101s | cleric pyro spell and then gift but he |
| 23104s | needs to manage how much he actually |
| 23106s | wants to draw so he could dump a flash |
| 23109s | heel face and still be able to |
| 23111s | like draw to a perfect amount going |
| 23113s | switcheroo though okay |
| 23117s | yeah switcheroo makes the most sense |
| 23119s | right because there's only one card he |
| 23120s | cares about in his deck and it's a |
| 23122s | minion so switcheroo drawing cards to |
| 23124s | tutor specifically minions i think just |
| 23126s | makes a whole lot more sense in this |
| 23127s | position |
| 23128s | and he seemed reasonably likely to get |
| 23130s | it i'm not quite sure how many are left |
| 23132s | in deck there's felice and zyrella at |
| 23134s | least but yeah the deck doesn't run many |
| 23136s | minions to begin with so that is second |
| 23138s | bore and that is |
| 23140s | sort of a thousand troops next turn |
| 23143s | yep |
| 23145s | unless orange finds a way for the boars |
| 23147s | to stay alive but |
| 23149s | even if he left them alive i think msbc |
| 23151s | can kill them off and re-summon and kill |
| 23153s | the new ones off all together in the |
| 23155s | same church |
| 23158s | so how many huffers |
| 23161s | wait what it broke |
| 23164s | again |
| 23167s | amish furious |
| 23169s | again |
| 23179s | weirdly in this spot |
| 23181s | does he not want huffers i mean he gets |
| 23183s | them regardless because it |
| 23186s | um but the four health minions |
| 23189s | might just have a better chance of |
| 23190s | hanging around right like if he suspects |
| 23193s | that he's about to get sorted next turn |
| 23195s | he wants to have as much of a board stay |
| 23197s | potentially hanging out hang around as |
| 23198s | possible maybe with this many one attack |
| 23201s | minions already in play that's kind of a |
| 23203s | pipe dream anyway and therefore the |
| 23205s | huffer damage is just the best thing he |
| 23207s | can do |
| 23208s | right |
| 23209s | i think yeah there's so many layers to |
| 23211s | it because if i were orange i honestly |
| 23212s | wouldn't even be expecting to get sorted |
| 23214s | next turn just yet it feels not |
| 23216s | particularly likely with nine cards |
| 23219s | still left in deck um but he does know |
| 23222s | that there's been enough tradables done |
| 23224s | here so for msbc |
| 23226s | just double trade the bores pyro |
| 23230s | amulet amulet |
| 23232s | and that would even kill off the misha |
| 23238s | and he can sword face |
| 23240s | but he would be leaving a tavish on |
| 23243s | board there which is a little bit scary |
| 23246s | oh this is so smart by the way that |
| 23248s | trade into the cleric on the previous |
| 23250s | turn specifically with that huffer made |
| 23253s | sure that no matter what msb started |
| 23255s | doing with aoe the huffer was going to |
| 23256s | be the very first thing that died right |
| 23258s | and therefore he gets two huffers back |
| 23260s | on the following turn which means he's |
| 23262s | just straight up representing 15 if the |
| 23265s | tavis stays alive |
| 23266s | that's so huge i didn't even catch that |
| 23268s | yeah brilliant by orange here that means |
| 23271s | that |
| 23271s | yeah the 15 you are talking about plus |
| 23274s | first hero power and if he gets us a one |
| 23277s | cost spell off the top second hero power |
| 23279s | as well and whatever the one cost spell |
| 23281s | does but msbc doesn't really have a |
| 23283s | choice he has started the train he has |
| 23286s | to stay the course here go face for 15 |
| 23289s | and pray that that is enough but what |
| 23291s | we're looking at here is not even a |
| 23294s | two-turn lethal setup right because of |
| 23296s | the armor from the tavish |
| 23298s | desperate prayer found as well here this |
| 23301s | does not change the break point on |
| 23302s | orange's clock but could well change the |
| 23304s | break point on uh on msbc's clock that's |
| 23307s | a very very big deal as well and now |
| 23309s | suddenly huffers and leox are both |
| 23311s | almost equally relevant that's not the |
| 23313s | card though |
| 23315s | nope that is only one hero power this |
| 23318s | turn and whether it's a huffer or a leok |
| 23320s | it's gonna have to take either the |
| 23322s | tavish going in or two minions going in |
| 23324s | to kill the pyro so at that point you |
| 23326s | probably just leave the pyro oh |
| 23327s | everything goes face prey there's no |
| 23329s | further healing and you get another |
| 23330s | huffer next turn |
| 23332s | oh my god |
| 23335s | hello |
| 23336s | 19 damage |
| 23340s | so if he puts msbc down to 11 |
| 23344s | and he draws arcane shot the next turn |
| 23346s | and gets another two hovers that's still |
| 23348s | just 10 damage so he doesn't have a |
| 23349s | guaranteed lethal but there is a chance |
| 23351s | that his board sticks around like msbc |
| 23354s | sitting on very few cards but the light |
| 23356s | bomb will make quick work of it |
| 23358s | yeah i wonder whether there's ever a |
| 23361s | trade of the tavish in that position and |
| 23362s | that way you can say well if there's no |
| 23364s | light bomb then maybe my board sticks |
| 23366s | but i think you know uh when there's a |
| 23369s | minion in hand from the remaining |
| 23370s | switcheroo right the switcheroo that |
| 23372s | pulled uh boar plus something from |
| 23374s | orange's perspective uh which i think is |
| 23377s | almost always either pyromancer or |
| 23379s | xyrella in this position which would be |
| 23381s | able to clear up your board anyway so |
| 23383s | cashing out damage doesn't just make the |
| 23384s | most sense |
| 23390s | alicia as well now |
| 23394s | i think msbc is just fishing for zarella |
| 23398s | um the minion |
| 23404s | doesn't particularly need it like even |
| 23406s | if he were to just go face and then |
| 23408s | light bomb here he has a very clean two |
| 23410s | turn setup and there is nothing orange |
| 23412s | can do about it |
| 23413s | agreed |
| 23415s | i mean orange can get a misha which |
| 23417s | would stop the sword going face for a |
| 23418s | turn maybe |
| 23421s | yeah if light bombs like exactly the |
| 23423s | bottom card or something right it's an |
| 23425s | out at the very least |
| 23429s | or if msbc just uses it here to kill the |
| 23432s | tavis |
| 23436s | but |
| 23437s | he actually maintains the pyro and plays |
| 23439s | the village which plays around amisha |
| 23440s | being generated |
| 23442s | yeah very very nice i was gonna say i |
| 23444s | don't actually think there's a way to |
| 23446s | die in that position so i was going to |
| 23448s | question |
| 23449s | using the light bomb because then that |
| 23452s | you know misha into misha into misha for |
| 23453s | the rest of the game count you know |
| 23455s | factor comes in |
| 23456s | but yeah msbc clearly had the setup |
| 23459s | covered there as well maintaining the |
| 23460s | pyro on board and playing the priestess |
| 23462s | as well at the same time perfectly had |
| 23464s | his bases covered was going to be uh |
| 23466s | securing lethal through any possible |
| 23468s | scenario on the following turn so very |
| 23470s | nicely done indeed it was a very good |
| 23473s | ball priest draw but i think it was a |
| 23475s | very well executed game of ball priest |
| 23478s | by the player as well which uh you can't |
| 23480s | ask for more than that it's very often |
| 23482s | the key to winning a tournament is that |
| 23484s | you run well and you play well you quite |
| 23487s | often have to do those things at the |
| 23488s | same time which is very very tricky to |
| 23491s | get those things to line up |
| 23493s | i agree well piloted by msbc but we also |
| 23496s | saw some very good interaction knowledge |
| 23498s | from orange just setting up with the |
| 23500s | huffers as well um i do kind of wonder |
| 23503s | if the tavish game plan is the standard |
| 23506s | way to approach the matchup though |
| 23508s | because when i've seen players say that |
| 23509s | they feel comfortable as quest hunter in |
| 23511s | this matchup they generally have told me |
| 23513s | that it's through just beating down the |
| 23515s | door with damage damage damage and not |
| 23517s | really bothering with the animal |
| 23519s | companions being summoned but again i |
| 23520s | don't have too many reps on that who |
| 23523s | knows i think in the future we'll be |
| 23524s | seeing more boar priests as people get |
| 23526s | more and more comfortable with playing |
| 23527s | the deck i feel it's very similar to |
| 23529s | garage rogue honestly and it's history |
| 23531s | where like yeah you hear whisperings of |
| 23533s | it as a potentially super high power |
| 23535s | ceiling deck but it's so confusing and |
| 23537s | you follow it need to fall into all |
| 23538s | these traps first and |
| 23540s | brave the very steep learning curve but |
| 23542s | as time progresses i think more people |
| 23544s | will feel comfortable playing it and |
| 23546s | you'll get more of a sample size on how |
| 23549s | to actually play around it |
| 23550s | yeah i was talking about this with i |
| 23552s | think larinda on day one where with |
| 23555s | every expansion there are always these |
| 23557s | decks that start off as like a 43 win |
| 23560s | rate deck and we all agree that they'll |
| 23562s | get better than that but the trick is |
| 23564s | working out whether they'll reach a 50 |
| 23566s | 51 win rate deck in which case the two |
| 23569s | months of practice you put into learning |
| 23571s | it probably isn't worth it or whether |
| 23573s | that two months will get it to like a 56 |
| 23575s | 57 win rate deck right and then you're |
| 23577s | in business and i think that is |
| 23578s | definitely the hard thing to get a |
| 23580s | handle on with the boar priest for sure |
| 23582s | but very much at the opposite end of the |
| 23584s | scale is naga demon hunter which you |
| 23586s | pick it up you play your first game and |
| 23588s | it's already a 54 win rate deck yeah and |
| 23591s | that is what we're going to be running |
| 23592s | into a mirror with |
| 23594s | it is so forgiving as well i can't tell |
| 23596s | you the number of times i miscounted |
| 23598s | damage or like forgot that senno would |
| 23600s | go somewhere else than face first and um |
| 23603s | missed out on multi-strike interactions |
| 23605s | there's always the thing where like okay |
| 23607s | i have dread prison glaive let me kill a |
| 23610s | small minion and then play multi-strike |
| 23612s | and then go face and then you realize oh |
| 23614s | wait if i played multi-strike and i |
| 23616s | already attacked a minion i cannot go |
| 23617s | face after that that's the one order |
| 23619s | that doesn't work so there are some |
| 23621s | additional minions you may not attack an |
| 23623s | additional face that's not what it says |
| 23625s | on the card |
| 23629s | but you could count it as the additional |
| 23631s | minion just happened prior to it you |
| 23633s | know it's the base |
| 23634s | it's the additional and how does the |
| 23636s | card though the card's not paying |
| 23638s | attention to what you did before you |
| 23639s | play did you come on it's just chilling |
| 23641s | in your hand waiting for you to play it |
| 23643s | then it starts paying attention |
| 23645s | but i still won that game that's how |
| 23647s | strong demon hunter is |
| 23649s | at the end of the day it's a moot point |
| 23651s | because the deck's just broken |
| 23654s | oh man that's an opener for orange here |
| 23656s | dread prison glaive is without a doubt |
| 23658s | the most important card in the mirror i |
| 23660s | would say |
| 23661s | having it early |
| 23662s | allows you to not only deal with |
| 23664s | opposing one drops it also makes sure |
| 23667s | that you get an active puffer fist as |
| 23670s | soon as possible |
| 23671s | it means that you can play draktar and |
| 23674s | also immediately attack because director |
| 23676s | in this deck in particular is so much |
| 23678s | stronger when you have a weapon |
| 23679s | pre-equipped because it can summon so |
| 23681s | many things with bonus effects if you |
| 23682s | have a weapon like puffer fist and the |
| 23684s | battle swarm vanguard |
| 23687s | i almost wondered whether the slither |
| 23689s | spear got thrown away in that specific |
| 23692s | opening hand for orange um because you |
| 23694s | know you go weapon on one and then you |
| 23696s | want to have potentially coin puffer |
| 23698s | fist things available to you uh but the |
| 23700s | way this lines up uh if you were going |
| 23702s | to be dealing with a battle worn |
| 23704s | vanguard on the other side you'd be |
| 23705s | doing that a turn later anyway most |
| 23707s | likely unless your opponent also went |
| 23710s | weapon on one into battle one on two so |
| 23713s | i think it's fine just to take take care |
| 23714s | of the one drop first get it on board |
| 23717s | bit of a slower hand from msbc he only |
| 23719s | kept the man crick which is kind of slow |
| 23722s | but you know if you run man creek and |
| 23724s | you're not keeping it in the opener i |
| 23725s | don't know why you're running man creek |
| 23727s | so fair enough here just going to |
| 23729s | respect the slither spear even though it |
| 23730s | feels bad to use |
| 23732s | fury on rank one i completely agree that |
| 23735s | if his next turn is going to be just a |
| 23737s | three-four with no further development |
| 23739s | you should get rid of the minion problem |
| 23740s | while you have the chance |
| 23743s | and since you are known worldwide here |
| 23745s | as the queen of mulligans i've just made |
| 23747s | that up i've never heard anyone say that |
| 23749s | before um |
| 23750s | i wanted to ask you there was a battle |
| 23751s | worn vanguard in msbc's hand which he |
| 23754s | threw away on the play do you have any |
| 23756s | thoughts on that in the demon hunter |
| 23757s | mirror |
| 23758s | i think it makes a lot of sense if you |
| 23760s | don't have exactly dread prison glaive |
| 23761s | on turn one because if you are keeping |
| 23763s | man crick also it kind of conflicts with |
| 23766s | your turn three because you don't want |
| 23767s | to play the battle sword on turn two |
| 23770s | without attacking it's just so easy to |
| 23772s | kill it off and you don't get any extra |
| 23773s | value from the one ones um so the next |
| 23776s | possible turn to attack with it would be |
| 23778s | turn three but that's when you want to |
| 23779s | play man creek so i much prefer msbc |
| 23781s | putting his eggs in the man creek basket |
| 23784s | and looking for more flexible options |
| 23786s | and he does hit the weapon for himself |
| 23791s | all right straightforward turn |
| 23792s | spider tank go |
| 23796s | orange has some slightly more explosive |
| 23799s | options available to him on the other |
| 23801s | side there is a lot of damage to be |
| 23804s | pushed here with a multi-strike if |
| 23805s | orange would like it |
| 23807s | there is but i highly value puffer fist |
| 23810s | multi-strike in the mirror it's just so |
| 23812s | much aoe you can get it's one of the few |
| 23814s | ways to cleanly deal with the draktar |
| 23816s | board as well that i think the turn for |
| 23818s | orange probably ends up being fury hero |
| 23820s | power kill the man crick and chill um he |
| 23822s | does also have like a pretty good |
| 23824s | responsive hand even if he's playing |
| 23826s | from behind for a couple turns because |
| 23828s | treasure guard can fill out the mana and |
| 23830s | he has coin into |
| 23832s | uh curtris which is such a huge deal |
| 23835s | hitting the |
| 23836s | hero card in the mirror i think is very |
| 23838s | very important he does go treasure guard |
| 23840s | instead of killing the man crick also |
| 23842s | sort of baiting i suppose msbc into |
| 23845s | going wider and then cleaning up the man |
| 23847s | creek with the puffer fist that does |
| 23848s | look even better than fury now that i |
| 23850s | see it yeah this was going to be my |
| 23852s | counter proposal i really like the look |
| 23854s | of this because ideal scenario right |
| 23856s | this one 5 tanks a little bit of damage |
| 23858s | for you maybe softens up the man creek |
| 23860s | for one hp and then your opponent slams |
| 23863s | drekthar does a battle one vanguard turn |
| 23865s | whatever it's gonna be right and then |
| 23866s | you have that puff of this multi-strike |
| 23868s | turn to clean up everything and have a |
| 23870s | massive swing the turn after this makes |
| 23872s | a lot of sense however |
| 23874s | he's just gonna take five for the |
| 23876s | privilege of playing a taunt minion |
| 23877s | which is one of the unique functions of |
| 23879s | playing against demon hunter indeed |
| 23883s | yeah the punish to that play is if msbc |
| 23885s | doesn't take the bait or doesn't even |
| 23887s | have the option to like there wasn't |
| 23888s | really good board development that turn |
| 23890s | if it is just a weapon on the other side |
| 23892s | then orange has to take more damage from |
| 23895s | the man creek than he intended i don't |
| 23898s | know if he can afford to leave it up |
| 23899s | another turn here because i think his |
| 23902s | priority now should focus to just |
| 23904s | landing a clean curtain and using that |
| 23906s | tempo to give him the victory and |
| 23909s | kurtrus hasn't been particularly buffed |
| 23912s | throughout this match orange hasn't |
| 23913s | attacked too many times i think |
| 23916s | yeah he played a one drop on one he did |
| 23917s | attack on two but then he played the |
| 23919s | weapon after and then he didn't attack |
| 23921s | on three so if he attacks this turn that |
| 23923s | would be the second turn that he had |
| 23926s | attacked during the entire game |
| 23927s | obviously second and third if he ends up |
| 23929s | using the multi-strike |
| 23932s | um and i'd say that four attack on the |
| 23934s | bats is the important break point |
| 23936s | because there aren't really minions |
| 23937s | other than treasure guard that get above |
| 23940s | that health total there is still the |
| 23941s | wife to contend with that's um hiding |
| 23944s | somewhere in msbc's deck but i don't |
| 23946s | think orange can afford to worry about |
| 23948s | that because he is so far behind on |
| 23950s | damage here |
| 23951s | this predation |
| 23953s | is looking pretty juicy right now with |
| 23957s | these two slither spears built up on |
| 23958s | board but obviously you are looking for |
| 23960s | the spectral side first |
| 23963s | i wonder if he is just going to rip it |
| 23964s | this turn just to get the additional |
| 23966s | buffs on the |
| 23968s | on the one drops which i think is |
| 23969s | probably worth right in this particular |
| 23971s | matchup okay we're gonna hold on to it |
| 23973s | fine it's really close right because |
| 23976s | um |
| 23977s | if you expect orange to have to face |
| 23979s | tank either of them on this turn to |
| 23981s | clear then yes it is worth but if he's |
| 23983s | not going to deal with them or if he |
| 23985s | uses a spell to deal with it instead |
| 23986s | then sometimes you'd rather save the |
| 23988s | predation so that when they're actually |
| 23990s | attacking on your board they still have |
| 23991s | the buff i really like the design on so |
| 23994s | there's beer i just think it makes for |
| 23995s | so many cool decisions but the other |
| 23997s | thing to note is if it's exactly curtis |
| 24000s | right um then having three attack on |
| 24003s | these other spears means that you can |
| 24005s | potentially top that puffer fist and |
| 24007s | have them have that easily deal with the |
| 24009s | remainder of the bats |
| 24010s | now though even a puffer fist draw i |
| 24012s | guess it's okay with multi-strike but |
| 24014s | not super clean |
| 24016s | that's huge though that is huge |
| 24020s | offer but again |
| 24022s | break point is awkward you can only kill |
| 24025s | one of the bats if he plays puffer fist |
| 24027s | here and because of that maybe he gives |
| 24029s | orange a bit of deja vu plays the |
| 24030s | treasure guard and then sets up for |
| 24032s | puffer multi the next turn |
| 24034s | yeah problem is leaving minions up and |
| 24037s | trying to suck your opponent into just |
| 24040s | making attacks into a taunt minion a lot |
| 24042s | less appealing when they're already |
| 24043s | kurtis and each of those attacks is |
| 24046s | adding two damage on the other side but |
| 24048s | yeah as mentioned here uh need for greed |
| 24050s | into pufferfist was the exact reason why |
| 24052s | you would uh predation on the on the |
| 24054s | previous turn so that your opponent's |
| 24056s | coin curtrous trade into your three |
| 24057s | attack minion and then based on exactly |
| 24059s | that one pan out you're able to play the |
| 24062s | board with the pufferfist sorry i'm |
| 24064s | sounding like an america's caster right |
| 24065s | now we're better than this gia sorry |
| 24067s | i'll move on yeah man can't stress |
| 24070s | enough how awkward that turn was for |
| 24071s | msbc because if he wanted to clear both |
| 24073s | of them it would involve hero power and |
| 24075s | predation and then float to mana like he |
| 24077s | could like multi-strike but that's |
| 24079s | essentially floating mana anyway because |
| 24081s | you couldn't treasure guard so he takes |
| 24082s | the halfway play of treasure guard plus |
| 24084s | the predation hopes that orange can't |
| 24086s | get too much extra value from leaving a |
| 24088s | minion on board but orange knows the |
| 24090s | drill here i don't think he's gonna be |
| 24092s | too fussed about trying to get um |
| 24096s | like super white on board he doesn't |
| 24097s | even have the option i think it's gonna |
| 24099s | be just push the damage onto the taunt |
| 24102s | and then use this foul barrage while |
| 24104s | there's no other targets to make sure it |
| 24105s | can go face |
| 24107s | but he's going puffer instead |
| 24110s | he is going puffer yeah in terms of |
| 24112s | maximizing damage over turns this does |
| 24115s | make sense right you can get two damage |
| 24117s | out of a puff of this now that you |
| 24119s | wouldn't be able to get out otherwise |
| 24120s | all the other cards in your hand are |
| 24122s | basically guaranteed to connect with the |
| 24124s | damage they say on the card at this |
| 24125s | point so i do think you know in terms of |
| 24127s | parceling things out this makes a ton of |
| 24129s | sense |
| 24132s | that's the stunner for msgc but there's |
| 24135s | too many things in the way and i don't |
| 24137s | think she can handle this that's a wife |
| 24139s | though |
| 24140s | uh |
| 24141s | ceno counts |
| 24143s | i mean msbc can't even face tank both of |
| 24146s | these with the dread prison glaive |
| 24147s | because he'd die so |
| 24149s | uh |
| 24150s | yeah |
| 24151s | that's very true |
| 24154s | it's just not enough |
| 24161s | we can't even remove them without face |
| 24165s | tanking one i think or i guess you could |
| 24168s | but like |
| 24171s | uh does it work because |
| 24173s | you go stano multi multi then the suno |
| 24177s | deals |
| 24179s | only four damage to this five health |
| 24180s | board |
| 24182s | and then you cannot play puffer fist so |
| 24184s | yeah |
| 24186s | very dead |
| 24188s | there is a treasure guard in hand though |
| 24190s | and currently the only damage orange has |
| 24194s | absolutely guaranteed to go face is the |
| 24196s | predation there is of course fel barrage |
| 24198s | and |
| 24199s | the chaos strike but both of those are |
| 24201s | played around by just having minions in |
| 24203s | play |
| 24204s | true |
| 24205s | msvc now is at a health total lower than |
| 24208s | man crick's wife |
| 24211s | and now it's tied with puffer fist as |
| 24213s | well |
| 24217s | uh unfortunately it is also just three |
| 24220s | which is the most alien point at this |
| 24222s | point so predation will go face and |
| 24225s | clear things up and that means orange is |
| 24227s | gonna square up the series one game to |
| 24229s | one and i think that's a super important |
| 24232s | win actually if you want to weigh the |
| 24234s | relative merits of the weird method of |
| 24236s | like who's ahead in conquest as to what |
| 24238s | did each win mean i think that win in |
| 24241s | the demon hunter mirror was probably a |
| 24242s | slightly more important win overall than |
| 24245s | the uh the ball priest win against the |
| 24246s | quest hunter earlier on and because of |
| 24249s | course these are just two of the |
| 24250s | stronger decks you could argue that the |
| 24252s | fact is these two decks are going to get |
| 24254s | a win in the series anyway so maybe this |
| 24257s | the result of this mirror didn't matter |
| 24258s | too much but i think picking up wins in |
| 24260s | mirror matches in conquest in general is |
| 24262s | just a very powerful thing to do i agree |
| 24265s | and especially in the context of the |
| 24267s | fact that it's orange is d1 hunter |
| 24269s | that's gotten a win and msbc can still |
| 24272s | land the demon hunter into regular naga |
| 24274s | mage match-up which is one that i find |
| 24276s | highly contentious like the reason i |
| 24279s | felt like going into this tournament at |
| 24280s | naga mage wasn't particularly strong is |
| 24282s | i struggled with this matchup so much on |
| 24284s | ladder it's the one that i felt was |
| 24286s | keeping naga mage from being all the way |
| 24288s | at the top but then i saw players like |
| 24290s | orange and habu gabu able to reach the |
| 24292s | upper echelons of legend even running |
| 24294s | into this matchup and i'm so excited to |
| 24296s | see how orange approaches it if he does |
| 24299s | run naga mage into demon hunter because |
| 24301s | i often feel like the mage gets overrun |
| 24304s | way too quickly and even if you are able |
| 24306s | to pop off on turn five you've often |
| 24308s | taken too much damage uh to seal out the |
| 24311s | game anyway but maybe there is something |
| 24313s | bubbling under the surface that i |
| 24315s | haven't |
| 24316s | gotten the chance to try out for myself |
| 24318s | hopefully orange can give us a master |
| 24320s | class on that match-up |
| 24322s | yeah certainly i think it's been |
| 24325s | very interesting watching orange and |
| 24327s | habu gabu kind of become the two flag |
| 24329s | bearers for this deck because i think |
| 24332s | they are two massively different |
| 24334s | hearthstone players that both gravitated |
| 24337s | towards this deck for different reasons |
| 24339s | like habu gabu is the natural right like |
| 24342s | day one week one of any meta in anything |
| 24345s | any game any activity anything in the |
| 24347s | world habu gabi's probably one of the |
| 24349s | best at it right it always seems that |
| 24351s | way it's happened with |
| 24352s | various fresh meta games and constructed |
| 24354s | it's happened in battlegrounds it's |
| 24356s | happened in mercenaries harbough just |
| 24358s | picks things up dissects them learns |
| 24359s | them super quick and it's just way ahead |
| 24361s | of the curve whereas honestly orange |
| 24364s | quite often starts off a little ways |
| 24365s | behind the curve but then just through |
| 24368s | hard work practice learning through |
| 24370s | iteration grinding being you're |
| 24372s | practicing sensibly and just having a |
| 24375s | great work ethic and a great |
| 24376s | understanding of the game in general |
| 24378s | then catches up and overtakes everyone |
| 24380s | else towards the middle and end of |
| 24382s | metagame so it's been interesting to see |
| 24384s | both sides of that dynamic just |
| 24385s | gravitate towards naga mage and just |
| 24388s | habu gabu getting off to the very early |
| 24389s | lead with the super early rank one |
| 24391s | legend performances while orange was |
| 24394s | still grinding away trying to uh to |
| 24395s | catch up to that level with the deck but |
| 24397s | i think he is very much there now and i |
| 24399s | am looking forward to a good performance |
| 24402s | from orange but here we go jia we are |
| 24405s | going to have to answer the question of |
| 24408s | who wins naga mage vs naga ping mage |
| 24412s | oh man that's a tough one i still want |
| 24414s | to add a little more comments on the |
| 24415s | orange versus |
| 24417s | dynamic there because i've always like |
| 24419s | looked up to orange in the sense that he |
| 24421s | is a learner right we've always sort of |
| 24423s | given him this tag as casters and |
| 24425s | personally as a hearthstone player i |
| 24427s | don't identify as somebody who has the |
| 24428s | natural talent or skill to pick up a |
| 24430s | deck and know what to do immediately |
| 24432s | oftentimes i look at this and wait |
| 24434s | what's the combo here and i have to |
| 24435s | watch a bunch of streams before i even |
| 24437s | get anything and to have someone like |
| 24439s | orange who is so consistent with um good |
| 24442s | results despite not having necessarily |
| 24444s | the fastest natural talent compared to |
| 24447s | some of the other players is i think |
| 24449s | very inspirational and it's also reached |
| 24451s | the point where he's not just |
| 24453s | necessarily picking up the lists of |
| 24455s | others he has a distinctly different |
| 24457s | naga mage list from habu gabus and i |
| 24459s | think the hot streaks you know earlier |
| 24461s | when i cast this series today came in |
| 24463s | very very clutch in the quest hunter |
| 24465s | matchup and they could still have some |
| 24467s | value later on but against naga ping |
| 24469s | mage in particular i think there will |
| 24471s | always be enough targets for flurry to |
| 24473s | actually get value on but who is |
| 24477s | actually favored here i am honestly not |
| 24480s | sure but me with my learner and not |
| 24482s | instinctual mindset i look at the fact |
| 24485s | that |
| 24486s | it's easier for |
| 24487s | bass naga mage to pop off on board early |
| 24491s | and i look at the fact that msbc doesn't |
| 24494s | really have big aoe until mordred and |
| 24497s | that makes me think that orange should |
| 24499s | be slightly in the lead |
| 24501s | well let's dig in and find out these |
| 24505s | opening hands i think are going to be |
| 24507s | very telling and that is |
| 24510s | far too many spells and not enough nagas |
| 24512s | hanging around in orange's hand right |
| 24514s | now he is gonna have to find some very |
| 24517s | worthwhile support in the coming turns |
| 24520s | at the very least some form of card draw |
| 24522s | off this roon dorb would be nice if not |
| 24523s | off the top of the deck on the following |
| 24525s | turn |
| 24526s | at least has the vicious slitherspire to |
| 24528s | start the train of damage though |
| 24531s | but for msbc this is |
| 24533s | a very strong opener being the player on |
| 24536s | coin and with access to sivara in the |
| 24538s | opener is so huge because sivara is an |
| 24541s | amazing card when she also is she she |
| 24544s | gets a balance of like tempo spells and |
| 24546s | damage spells and the coin is the |
| 24547s | highest tempo spell that you have access |
| 24549s | to in mage um so it means that you can |
| 24552s | play savara as early as turn three |
| 24554s | potentially and if she's active you can |
| 24556s | straight away coin out another spell and |
| 24559s | be even on board state while also having |
| 24561s | gotten your value |
| 24565s | orange here already taking his time with |
| 24568s | this consideration |
| 24570s | there's multiple ways to go about this |
| 24571s | obviously having the slithersphere with |
| 24574s | initiative here puts you in control of |
| 24575s | the situation |
| 24577s | uh it could be ruined orb it could be |
| 24578s | first flame just depending on how much |
| 24580s | health you want to protect on your own |
| 24581s | slithered spear how much damage you want |
| 24582s | to push to face there is |
| 24584s | wish fulfilled though the arcane |
| 24586s | intellect coming off the ruined orb as i |
| 24588s | was talking about earlier right that's |
| 24590s | huge |
| 24591s | i mean the consideration for first flame |
| 24592s | second flame was very real like you said |
| 24594s | because the three health break point is |
| 24596s | so much harder to deal with than two |
| 24598s | because that's the breakpoint for |
| 24599s | roondarb and first flame on the other |
| 24600s | side but orange i think realizes that |
| 24603s | those cheap spells are such valuable |
| 24605s | resources for the turn he does |
| 24607s | eventually pop off that he's willing to |
| 24609s | sacrifice potentially the silver spear |
| 24611s | dying does pick up enforcer that turns |
| 24613s | oh that says four that says four oh it's |
| 24615s | the wrong one |
| 24618s | i mean it's still a good play on turn |
| 24620s | four if you top deck siren on five it's |
| 24622s | perfect |
| 24623s | yeah that's true |
| 24627s | rush being picked up by orange right on |
| 24629s | the turn he played rune orb was very |
| 24631s | clutch it means that he can continue to |
| 24633s | be the one um getting ahead on board |
| 24636s | first he's actually making use of being |
| 24638s | the one on play in this matchup uh |
| 24641s | whereas for msbc the sevara is still |
| 24645s | one spell off of being active right or |
| 24647s | two |
| 24648s | like uh two yeah it was just minion on |
| 24651s | one into roondale bond two currently |
| 24653s | right |
| 24654s | that means he can't quite just coin it |
| 24656s | out school teacher picked up for him |
| 24657s | though |
| 24665s | that is now a very interesting prospect |
| 24667s | as well that kind of gives a way to fill |
| 24670s | out the first flame turn again if orange |
| 24672s | wanted to go down that route but it |
| 24674s | looks like he is just going to follow |
| 24675s | the straight curve |
| 24676s | with the |
| 24677s | school teacher |
| 24679s | typhon or volcanomancy or shooting sorry |
| 24683s | volcanomancy has its you know its merits |
| 24686s | if you are going to face a big pop off |
| 24688s | on the other side that that is a way of |
| 24690s | dealing with a board |
| 24692s | uh but i'm not sure if he's in the |
| 24694s | position where he should be taking |
| 24695s | contingency plans i think he's in a |
| 24697s | better position to set up for a siren of |
| 24699s | his own so i think siphon man is where i |
| 24701s | would have ended up here |
| 24703s | yeah i feel like i've fallen into that |
| 24705s | trap one too many times already to the |
| 24707s | point where i'm very put off on volcano |
| 24709s | monsieur it always feels like one of |
| 24710s | those picks where it's like yeah this |
| 24712s | will be great when i'm you know i have |
| 24714s | to clear the board on the other side and |
| 24715s | then it just never quite is it's all |
| 24717s | like the aoe is always just one short |
| 24719s | you can't find a satisfying way to kill |
| 24721s | the minion you've targeted on or |
| 24722s | something goes wrong with it i've been |
| 24724s | burned one too many times i think by |
| 24726s | that card already |
| 24728s | yep it is a fire spell |
| 24731s | thanks gia |
| 24734s | and speaking of that's double wildfire |
| 24736s | played for msbc and that his sevara will |
| 24739s | get him back another one right so |
| 24741s | this reckless apprentice actually is |
| 24743s | going to be in range of dealing with a |
| 24745s | potential big siren board |
| 24747s | and orange hasn't even found the siren |
| 24749s | msbc just has the long game in his favor |
| 24759s | anybody gifts |
| 24761s | i mean |
| 24762s | it only draws one forever but i feel |
| 24765s | like another first flame is not orange's |
| 24768s | priority at the moment just cycling |
| 24769s | towards siren i think is top of mind |
| 24773s | yeah i would be inclined to agree with |
| 24775s | that |
| 24784s | orange now has to consider whether to |
| 24785s | take the card draw right now which it |
| 24787s | looks like he is leaning towards so |
| 24789s | whether to uh just take the bump and |
| 24791s | trade with the first plane |
| 24794s | hey with how greedy he has been with |
| 24795s | this first flame if he actually finally |
| 24799s | hits what he is looking for to start his |
| 24801s | pop-off turn he is going to be rewarded |
| 24803s | by these greedy keeps with the spells |
| 24804s | that he has |
| 24807s | you see though cause msbc can make the |
| 24809s | biggest hero power with the civil how |
| 24812s | many wildfires does this give back i |
| 24813s | mean |
| 24816s | i mean if you wait even longer and then |
| 24818s | play it with bram well then the sky is |
| 24820s | the limit |
| 24822s | now you're talking |
| 24824s | but i think msbc is correct to |
| 24828s | consider other options as well because |
| 24830s | he is staring down at nine on the other |
| 24832s | side and even though there is only one |
| 24834s | basic knight for orange like these |
| 24835s | nagalings that he could have discovered |
| 24837s | could be further damage but yeah that's |
| 24839s | an additional to wildfire |
| 24842s | oh man |
| 24844s | uh i think orange is dead |
| 24848s | because the hero power just does five |
| 24851s | now whenever msbc wants it to |
| 24854s | with the aoe already in hand |
| 24857s | yeah it means even when orange does pop |
| 24860s | off like msbc just presses the |
| 24862s | apprentice button and poof goes the |
| 24864s | board and he proceeds pinging for five |
| 24867s | every turn again |
| 24869s | okay |
| 24870s | so |
| 24871s | card draw plus ignites plan b i suppose |
| 24876s | does that ever get there fast enough in |
| 24878s | this situation |
| 24881s | racing a five damage hero |
| 24886s | i'm gonna say no but orange is the |
| 24888s | master at this deck seafloor gateway |
| 24891s | gets him an amalgam for one |
| 24893s | yep that seems better than the other |
| 24895s | options maybe spring water is okay but |
| 24897s | it feels like he's drawn a |
| 24898s | disproportionate amount of spells |
| 24900s | compared to nagas so he's pretty likely |
| 24902s | to whiff on spring water yeah completely |
| 24905s | agree |
| 24906s | and uh amalgam is a lot more spite lash |
| 24909s | than many of the other cards in his deck |
| 24913s | still doesn't find it hey baba naga's |
| 24916s | damage |
| 24918s | true |
| 24920s | it's the thing that i don't know the |
| 24921s | name of dang it orange |
| 24924s | uh which is also damage i believe i |
| 24925s | think that still hits face right oh it |
| 24927s | does okay i think |
| 24936s | wow msbc really saying this doesn't need |
| 24939s | to be the wildfire wildfire apprentice |
| 24941s | turn he's not blinking until he sees a |
| 24943s | spiderlash it looks like |
| 24945s | there's gotta be a siphon mana here he |
| 24948s | has second flame |
| 24956s | does it actually help him though like |
| 24958s | he's had the mana to play these |
| 24960s | wildfires regardless |
| 24963s | but cheapening the ai seems decent at |
| 24965s | least |
| 24967s | yeah that's very fair |
| 24974s | i wonder it would be so funny if msbc |
| 24977s | just gets so greedy with the apprentice |
| 24979s | that orange gets there with the |
| 24980s | incremental minion damage |
| 24987s | i mean it's not super far off from |
| 24989s | happening msbc is deliberately leaving |
| 24991s | still a bit of damage on board and yeah |
| 24993s | orange is still a long way from getting |
| 24995s | there but this could be the one way he |
| 24997s | does get there against this type of hand |
| 24999s | yeah for sure |
| 25001s | it seems weird that you know we're |
| 25003s | sitting there talking about how all |
| 25004s | these minions might just keep getting |
| 25005s | there when at any moment msbc can just |
| 25008s | pull the trigger and clear the board but |
| 25009s | obviously he is not really willing to do |
| 25012s | that until he sees some sort of |
| 25013s | significant commitment from orange so if |
| 25015s | he can just skirt the line where there's |
| 25018s | two or three small minions in play just |
| 25020s | attacking every turn the damage is |
| 25021s | adding up |
| 25022s | right and now that orange has seen like |
| 25025s | three wildfires played and knows about |
| 25026s | another one in hand he won't even |
| 25028s | necessarily prioritize fight lash just |
| 25030s | for board like if anything he plays it |
| 25033s | for more mana expenditure for more mana |
| 25035s | cheat in order to play more spells like |
| 25037s | he knows that his board is just so |
| 25039s | fragile against this wildfire uh times |
| 25041s | four setup |
| 25046s | no i am not sure what's in the other |
| 25049s | nagaling |
| 25051s | uh same no i have also lost track |
| 25055s | volcano |
| 25056s | he actually did take it okay |
| 25060s | both players setting up contingencies |
| 25062s | for spite lash on the other side but |
| 25064s | we've hit the weird pan out where |
| 25065s | neither player actually has the spy lash |
| 25071s | orange just continuing to chip away |
| 25073s | though yeah |
| 25077s | oh is it time for msbc to blink |
| 25082s | he doesn't have to just yet like one |
| 25084s | more wildfire and a ping face deals five |
| 25087s | and then he could still brand reckless |
| 25089s | which would deal 10 to the board and the |
| 25091s | face |
| 25092s | there's a spite lash but he doesn't have |
| 25094s | a cheap naga that he can play with it |
| 25096s | right now |
| 25097s | no |
| 25104s | he uh set up siphon but i don't even |
| 25106s | think that particularly helps like the |
| 25108s | spells are already cheap enough to play |
| 25109s | with siren the next turn |
| 25111s | right |
| 25112s | so strange |
| 25115s | i've never seen naga mage pan out like |
| 25117s | this and it's very odds |
| 25120s | i am sort of sat here wondering like |
| 25122s | what would have happened if msbc had |
| 25124s | just on six just played double wildfire |
| 25127s | reckless cleared whatever board was |
| 25129s | there and then just started pinging |
| 25130s | orange in the face every turn you know |
| 25132s | just forgetting about all this nonsense |
| 25133s | like obviously that would then get |
| 25135s | immediately punished by an instant |
| 25137s | response spite lash on the other side |
| 25139s | but |
| 25140s | very very interesting to see this uh |
| 25141s | panning out this way now |
| 25144s | orange has drawn his ignite back as well |
| 25146s | um |
| 25147s | a little bit awkward this turn if he |
| 25149s | wanted this turn to be the one to expend |
| 25152s | using the seven cost minion but i think |
| 25154s | orange is probably |
| 25155s | having that ear marked alongside the |
| 25157s | volcano mansi to deal with this fight |
| 25159s | last turn but yeah |
| 25161s | how is this still not spy lash are you |
| 25164s | kidding me |
| 25165s | i don't know and look like look |
| 25167s | genuinely look at the mark of a good |
| 25169s | naga mage player no matter how long it's |
| 25172s | taking orange's hand is still perfect |
| 25176s | for a spidlash draw right he's got two |
| 25179s | cheap nagas he still has cheap spells he |
| 25181s | still has card draw he still has |
| 25183s | everything that you could possibly want |
| 25184s | for a spite lash turn he's been you know |
| 25186s | manipulating that situation perfectly |
| 25188s | the entire time but both spite lashes |
| 25191s | bottom 11 and they've been you know |
| 25194s | potentially tutored twice |
| 25196s | uh by the crush claws and missed on an |
| 25199s | amalgam |
| 25200s | as well like this is absolutely |
| 25202s | disgusting from orange's side finally |
| 25205s | but now there's fight lash for msbc |
| 25207s | but orange actually gets to clear it |
| 25209s | because he has snuggling volcanomancy |
| 25211s | into the the seven down the seven mana |
| 25214s | one with aoe |
| 25217s | yes thank you yeah |
| 25221s | all right here we go |
| 25223s | we'll teach her two naga links for the |
| 25224s | brand it's gone on so long that the |
| 25227s | brand can be comfortably slid into this |
| 25230s | fight last turn |
| 25231s | and comfortably slither into the turn |
| 25234s | yes exactly |
| 25239s | and i think he can get the apprentice in |
| 25241s | there as well |
| 25244s | if he wants to um i was going to say if |
| 25246s | you're going to play it now you should |
| 25248s | have played it on turn six surely |
| 25250s | come on |
| 25251s | but you have brand now |
| 25253s | i mean that's fair |
| 25257s | gifts |
| 25264s | played wildfire right yeah and then |
| 25266s | spell coiler sure |
| 25273s | that's such a big deal probably creates |
| 25275s | a break point for msbc probably kill a |
| 25278s | turn earlier because of that and he's oh |
| 25280s | is he brand zola aing the apprentice |
| 25283s | love it love it |
| 25285s | that's so cool |
| 25290s | so much damage |
| 25293s | and still a hero power to be fired for |
| 25296s | five |
| 25299s | going to more to be |
| 25301s | lethal for orange this turn somehow |
| 25305s | somehow |
| 25306s | ignite siphon picked up |
| 25310s | a volcano mansi is pretty useless at |
| 25312s | this point but the naga still generates |
| 25314s | him mana board space is a scarce |
| 25317s | resource though |
| 25320s | okay what is in the savara i confess i |
| 25323s | have not kept track of this an ignite |
| 25325s | that's the one that matters okay |
| 25329s | orange is wasting no time whatsoever |
| 25330s | that's another ignite he knows it has to |
| 25332s | be lethal here with the double |
| 25334s | apprentices in hand there is a very high |
| 25336s | likelihood he's dead on the backswing so |
| 25338s | he is not bothering with clearing the |
| 25340s | board it is ignite |
| 25343s | nomancy on whatever you don't really |
| 25345s | have time yeah kill off your noggling |
| 25350s | oh actually volcanomancy creates space |
| 25353s | for orange right yes it does |
| 25355s | that's huge |
| 25358s | he needs that does he find a place he |
| 25359s | needs to go |
| 25360s | he needs to go jail oh my gosh |
| 25363s | he is going but did he go orange steel |
| 25369s | he looks too happy he looks way too |
| 25371s | happy i'm concerned about how happy |
| 25373s | orange looks no no no he doesn't look |
| 25375s | happy he doesn't look happy |
| 25380s | that's game |
| 25381s | double apprentice |
| 25383s | and the brand going face |
| 25386s | [Music] |
| 25391s | it was so close a valiant effort for |
| 25395s | orange in the end |
| 25397s | but this lovely set up from msbc with |
| 25401s | the reckless apprentice guaranteeing the |
| 25402s | damage he had damage to spare in the end |
| 25405s | with another reckless another fireball |
| 25407s | everything that could possibly have been |
| 25409s | needed and i think to be fair to orange |
| 25412s | he knew the assignment there there was |
| 25415s | no concern about efficiently clearing |
| 25417s | the opponent's board none of that |
| 25419s | nonsense was in his concern obviously he |
| 25420s | had that pegged with the the volcano |
| 25422s | mansi anyway but you could see he knew |
| 25425s | what that turn was about play ignites |
| 25427s | find more ignites get the other ignite |
| 25429s | out of the savara draw cards find more |
| 25432s | ignites play more ignites but in the end |
| 25434s | he just ran out of time to do it |
| 25436s | i hate to say it though but looking |
| 25438s | again at the end board state there if |
| 25440s | orange had veered one ignite into the |
| 25443s | brand and it was a full board clear i |
| 25445s | think msbc was one off of lethal because |
| 25447s | orange was at 12 and he had two |
| 25450s | apprentices that each dealt five i |
| 25452s | believe |
| 25453s | um it was well over lethal because it |
| 25455s | was exactly brand that survived there |
| 25457s | but |
| 25458s | i think with fireball and apprentice on |
| 25460s | nine mana he had 11 and couldn't fit in |
| 25463s | a further ping |
| 25464s | maybe there were some top decks that |
| 25466s | could have changed that but if i'm |
| 25468s | correct and he's only deal five apiece |
| 25470s | and i think so right |
| 25473s | then because yeah |
| 25474s | you can only get one source of ping plus |
| 25477s | a fireball with right and that is your |
| 25478s | max damage you cannot do any more than |
| 25480s | that no matter how hard you try |
| 25482s | that is a very good point |
| 25484s | it's a really tough call to make on the |
| 25487s | spot though because i completely agree |
| 25489s | that if i were in oranges spot there i |
| 25491s | would think yeah it has to be lethal now |
| 25492s | like he has two reckless apprentices but |
| 25495s | on nine mana it's actually still a |
| 25497s | challenge despite all of that against |
| 25499s | all odds for msbc to go completely off |
| 25502s | of board to lethal |
| 25506s | very very interesting game indeed i |
| 25509s | think made all the more interesting by |
| 25510s | the fact that both players drew kind of |
| 25513s | poorly uh you know mediocre on the side |
| 25515s | of msbc and quite poorly in the end for |
| 25517s | orange with how deep he got in his deck |
| 25518s | and didn't find that spy lash certainly |
| 25521s | i think he will feel hard done by but |
| 25523s | yes if there was a moment to stop and |
| 25525s | think i suppose right at the end there |
| 25528s | when he went last ignite into refreshing |
| 25531s | back up to three mana and then casting |
| 25533s | arcane intellect his chain always stops |
| 25536s | there right cause he's gone spell spell |
| 25538s | so he ends up on zero mana no matter |
| 25540s | what so therefore that arcane intellect |
| 25543s | never finds additional outs unless hot |
| 25546s | streak ignite that unless there was a |
| 25548s | six damaging knight in his deck at that |
| 25550s | point and then you can go hot streak |
| 25552s | ignite off the arcane intellect with two |
| 25554s | draws really really hard to say but |
| 25556s | super interesting game nonetheless but |
| 25559s | it is going to mean that msbc now goes |
| 25561s | up and gia the dreaded match-up is now |
| 25564s | going to have to come out at least from |
| 25566s | your perspective |
| 25567s | and if |
| 25569s | orange is going to get there he is now |
| 25571s | going to have to |
| 25573s | give you your requested master class on |
| 25576s | how to win this match up as naga mage |
| 25578s | please teach us i just can't win this |
| 25581s | match up as mage i mean |
| 25584s | you can in the world where you pop off |
| 25586s | very quickly turn five |
| 25588s | at the latest i would say but demon |
| 25590s | hunter has often dealt a lot of damage |
| 25593s | by then if they've directed before that |
| 25595s | you need to delay it even sometimes and |
| 25598s | this is by no means a whiff of an |
| 25600s | opening hand for msbc he's the first to |
| 25602s | get on board even and orange does not |
| 25605s | even have a minion to target with |
| 25607s | amalgam of the deep oh the there's fears |
| 25609s | of one turn too late |
| 25611s | oh that could be |
| 25613s | game deciding at this point as well just |
| 25615s | having that extra 1-3 on board to be |
| 25617s | able to challenge the 1-3 on the other |
| 25619s | side discovering a whole extra card from |
| 25621s | the amalgam which could be the spike |
| 25622s | lash you're looking for all of these |
| 25624s | things can end up being crucial not to |
| 25626s | mention we're stuck with two crush claw |
| 25628s | enforcers in hand on the other side |
| 25630s | which are just going to be functional |
| 25632s | spider tanks at this point and yeah i |
| 25634s | think msbc understands where this |
| 25637s | matchup is at fell barrage pushes five |
| 25640s | for two mana on this turn looking |
| 25643s | absolutely beautiful already for our |
| 25646s | chinese representative |
| 25648s | even fitting in the coin there which |
| 25650s | make no mistake it does get the glaive |
| 25652s | out but it's mainly to cash in on the |
| 25654s | slither spear while it's still alive |
| 25658s | orange really needs a spell to make this |
| 25660s | work one that deals damage preferably |
| 25664s | no |
| 25667s | this hand is terrible |
| 25670s | it's not naga spell naga spell it's naga |
| 25673s | naga naga naga and multicaster |
| 25677s | [Laughter] |
| 25682s | multicast is a pirate i know but i mean |
| 25685s | if you said that to me during a naga |
| 25686s | spell turn i'd be like |
| 25690s | and it's multi-strike fodder subtle it's |
| 25694s | it really is it's so gross and i think |
| 25696s | this is it's his head's up from msbc i |
| 25699s | was thinking about this on the previous |
| 25700s | term when he coined out the weapon it |
| 25702s | just sets him up so nicely for his |
| 25704s | multi-strike turn right whether it was |
| 25706s | this play which is less expected but |
| 25709s | even just three four on curve right this |
| 25711s | would be able to clear up so smoothly |
| 25713s | with the multi strike and the hero power |
| 25715s | going through it's just infinity damage |
| 25718s | going face at this point and this is now |
| 25720s | the scenario that orange is already in |
| 25723s | where even if somehow with this pile of |
| 25726s | garbage that he has in hand he was able |
| 25727s | to engineer a perfect turn five spite |
| 25730s | lash pop off |
| 25731s | you can do all the pretty little things |
| 25733s | you want with your little naga spell |
| 25735s | dance it does not matter if you're at |
| 25738s | eight freaking health when you're doing |
| 25740s | it because the demon hunter is just |
| 25741s | gonna murder you over the top |
| 25743s | i was going to add a small footnote of |
| 25746s | but maybe ice barrier from noggling but |
| 25749s | no i spare here from noggling and that's |
| 25751s | a theory |
| 25756s | uh |
| 25759s | i can easily ignore the school teacher |
| 25760s | here it's just a question of whether you |
| 25762s | want a puffer fist and just cash in the |
| 25763s | damage now or trade in need for agreed |
| 25765s | to find something better to do |
| 25771s | like there's a chance you need to play |
| 25773s | need for greed for some cards at some |
| 25774s | point in this game okay |
| 25777s | just puffer hero power face i think is |
| 25780s | reasonable |
| 25782s | all right he's going to try to i mean |
| 25784s | sure yep strict upgrade well done |
| 25788s | yeah insta spectral side from here |
| 25791s | he has the mana anyway next turn oh oh |
| 25794s | there's the bone glam |
| 25797s | oh cause i just reaper |
| 25802s | uh |
| 25803s | i mean asterisk ice barrier yes it does |
| 25806s | right that's always that's always the |
| 25808s | out when it comes down to it we've |
| 25810s | already seen one nargling with there are |
| 25811s | of course multiple different ways that |
| 25813s | you can generate an ice barrier with |
| 25814s | this deck |
| 25816s | but with the cards that orange plays in |
| 25818s | his deck that bone glaive is going to |
| 25820s | represent lethal |
| 25822s | even if it's fight lash off the top he |
| 25824s | doesn't really have that much card draw |
| 25826s | going it is oh it is it is okay all |
| 25829s | right |
| 25830s | and then he has the hot streak |
| 25834s | okay it casts ai that's big okay that's |
| 25837s | flurry he has infinite mana sure |
| 25839s | that's the other school teacher he can |
| 25840s | get ice but no he didn't get ice barrier |
| 25844s | so |
| 25845s | two turn lethal back the other way yeah |
| 25848s | possible possible |
| 25852s | gonna need to get rid of these narglings |
| 25853s | at some point and replace them with |
| 25855s | significantly more impactful minions |
| 25858s | so sorry they're very cute but they're |
| 25860s | just not cutting it here yep |
| 25863s | you can also potentially hit treasure |
| 25865s | guard |
| 25867s | that's the two of them in the deck the |
| 25868s | taunt is still relevant here |
| 25870s | he can bluff a secret but i don't think |
| 25872s | msbc can never afford to not hit face |
| 25875s | from this point if given the opportunity |
| 25877s | but it's also the next best thing to ice |
| 25879s | barrier right it's potential damage to |
| 25881s | the opponent which is a big deal in that |
| 25883s | spot as well okay |
| 25885s | all right |
| 25887s | this is huge |
| 25889s | he set up |
| 25890s | what is this 12 10 14 17. 20 damage he's |
| 25894s | just counter lethal |
| 25896s | and he's dead |
| 25899s | yeah he is dead |
| 25901s | exactly to oh my gosh |
| 25905s | insert indiana jones gif of man spinning |
| 25907s | swords real fast and then just getting |
| 25909s | shot once |
| 25912s | that's so sad i mean msbc thinks this is |
| 25914s | ice barrier right he's like oh no i just |
| 25917s | lose but he has he's gonna quickly come |
| 25918s | to the conclusion that there's no way he |
| 25920s | can play around ice barrier so you just |
| 25922s | play as if it's not ice barrier and take |
| 25924s | your victory yeah absolutely |
| 25931s | soon |
| 25933s | i think |
| 25934s | charlie goes face with the other fury |
| 25950s | gets the good news does msbc that he is |
| 25953s | going to be finding his way into the |
| 25954s | final |
| 25956s | the bluff was called orange with the |
| 25957s | shake of the head |
| 25959s | he tried his absolute best in that |
| 25961s | matchup maybe |
| 25963s | maybe question marks over just one or |
| 25966s | two micro plays towards the end of the |
| 25968s | previous naga mage game nothing i think |
| 25970s | that could have been done better in that |
| 25971s | one absolutely and even then i think you |
| 25974s | know it may |
| 25976s | may he without sin cast with the first |
| 25977s | stone is that the expression like find |
| 25980s | me a player that plays naga mage better |
| 25982s | than orange in the first place to come |
| 25984s | and criticize uh his play with the deck |
| 25986s | it's a very very difficult neck uh |
| 25988s | difficult neck to navigate what am i |
| 25990s | even talking about jia at this point do |
| 25992s | you have any idea oh shut up you say |
| 25994s | some things that are smart go ahead |
| 25996s | no i mess up my words even way more |
| 25998s | often than usual don't worry but |
| 26000s | absolutely congratulations to msbc there |
| 26004s | actually if you think about it he was |
| 26006s | even seven over lethal if he played |
| 26008s | predation first and then got the |
| 26010s | honorable kill with the glaive it's an |
| 26011s | extra seven damage true |
| 26015s | man |
| 26016s | very very well played he has a unique |
| 26018s | lineup honestly all of our players here |
| 26020s | left in |
| 26021s | with a shot have done something |
| 26023s | different from the rest of the field |
| 26024s | which combined with their pristine play |
| 26027s | have gotten them this far it is a |
| 26029s | heartbreaker for the many many orange |
| 26030s | fans out there but i believe with the |
| 26032s | semi-finals finish he still has locked |
| 26034s | in enough wins to make it through to |
| 26036s | seasonals |
| 26037s | yeah i believe that is the case as well |
| 26040s | obviously our word is not law but yeah |
| 26042s | the calculations that i have done and |
| 26043s | even orange himself has tweeted words to |
| 26045s | that effect i believe so uh he is he is |
| 26047s | locked in as far as i'm concerned but of |
| 26049s | course we will wait for the official |
| 26052s | invite list before we are saying |
| 26053s | anything official on that front but |
| 26055s | certainly a excellent performance for |
| 26058s | him and uh i called way back at the |
| 26062s | announcement of this new system where |
| 26063s | every win was going to matter and |
| 26065s | masters tours could qualify you to all |
| 26067s | of these various things that at some |
| 26069s | point lorinda was going to get on his |
| 26071s | high horse about people not dropping |
| 26073s | from tournaments and how he was going to |
| 26074s | find any opportunity to tell a story |
| 26077s | about how someone sticking it out in a |
| 26078s | tournament paid out big for him and that |
| 26081s | is exactly what happened this morning |
| 26084s | when he got on stream and immediately uh |
| 26086s | talked about how orange was having a bad |
| 26088s | tournament hated his lineup stuck it out |
| 26090s | there picked up a few more wins and now |
| 26092s | is rewarded with a potential spot in |
| 26095s | these big tournaments later on in the |
| 26096s | year but honestly absolutely right |
| 26098s | that's what this year was about every |
| 26100s | win mattering every point mattering i |
| 26102s | think orange is putting a fantastic |
| 26103s | performance but let's not take anything |
| 26105s | away let's refocus on the winner here i |
| 26107s | think msbc has yet again put in a |
| 26110s | stellar performance from a chinese |
| 26112s | representative in one of these top 16 |
| 26114s | top eights and a masters tour and i |
| 26115s | think once again is looking very strong |
| 26117s | to be uh taking a tournament home for |
| 26119s | china would you agree |
| 26121s | absolutely and we often sort of talk |
| 26123s | about our cn players as this sort of |
| 26125s | monolith because we have a very separate |
| 26128s | scene to them and don't necessarily know |
| 26129s | what's going on with their own local |
| 26131s | tournament systems but thanks to beenage |
| 26134s | and other help from chinese community |
| 26136s | members we got to know our individual |
| 26137s | players a little bit better and msbc is |
| 26140s | very much um prone to human error just |
| 26143s | like all of us at the beginning right um |
| 26146s | playing that deck the odd deck without |
| 26148s | the baku in it going all the way from |
| 26150s | there to making multiple masters to our |
| 26152s | top finishes and playing decks that are |
| 26154s | honestly a bit overlooked by a lot of |
| 26157s | other people i think this naga ping mage |
| 26159s | definitely has a lot more to be explored |
| 26162s | to it and showing a true master class on |
| 26164s | boar priest as well these are not easy |
| 26166s | decks to pilot and he's shown that he |
| 26168s | can make it all the way to the top two |
| 26170s | only one series standing between him and |
| 26173s | another victory for the chinese region |
| 26176s | yeah with all that said we've all got |
| 26178s | places to be ji has got her burgeoning |
| 26180s | social life to go be a part of i'm gonna |
| 26183s | go take my uh 20-minute break while |
| 26185s | cursed bodies another opponent 3-0 and |
| 26188s | finds his way into the final based on |
| 26189s | the previous we do have a semi-final |
| 26191s | left to go followed by the final and so |
| 26194s | everyone at home do not go anywhere you |
| 26195s | are not going to want to miss these last |
| 26197s | two series we're going to take a short |
| 26198s | break and we will be back with more |
| 26200s | masters tour action |
| 26203s | [Music] |
| 26210s | [Music] |
| 26243s | so |
| 26253s | oh |
| 26257s | [Music] |
| 26269s | so |
| 26275s | [Music] |
| 26291s | [Applause] |
| 26293s | [Music] |
| 26301s | so |
| 26304s | [Music] |
| 26350s | [Music] |
| 26393s | [Music] |
| 26403s | hello everybody and welcome back to |
| 26404s | master's tour voyage to the sunken city |
| 26407s | we just got to see semi final one now |
| 26409s | it's time to see |
| 26410s | who is going to join msbc in the finals |
| 26415s | which is going to be coming up actually |
| 26416s | probably pretty quickly uh given the |
| 26418s | lineups that we have in front of us i'm |
| 26420s | tj that's neil right over there uh |
| 26422s | surrounded by the naga um about to get |
| 26425s | speared |
| 26426s | uh they're not after the fish they're |
| 26427s | actually after neal so i'd be careful if |
| 26429s | i were you |
| 26430s | i always am careful when i'm casting a |
| 26432s | tj you never know what things i'm going |
| 26434s | to fall into if i'm not looking |
| 26436s | carefully where i'm going |
| 26437s | um but yeah cursed versus face off and |
| 26439s | if you didn't see the quarterfinal for |
| 26441s | curse you probably wonder what happened |
| 26443s | well what happened is he just won in a |
| 26445s | total of about 12 turns and just got it |
| 26447s | over with an out of there so that |
| 26449s | aveline could go back to watching her |
| 26450s | netflix apparently um but face off has |
| 26453s | brought a slightly slower lineup than |
| 26456s | possessing |
| 26457s | we have still got the mage we do have |
| 26460s | a pretty aggressive hunter on both sides |
| 26463s | no we don't |
| 26464s | help that's cursed line up that's what |
| 26466s | i'm doing wrong and you'll do something |
| 26467s | wrong you see straight away curse with |
| 26469s | this really aggressive lineup faceoff |
| 26470s | does have the warrior though which will |
| 26473s | slow him down substantially most likely |
| 26476s | uh warrior pretty well designed right |
| 26478s | now and it's going to be |
| 26480s | a thorny point here for cursed because |
| 26482s | obviously there's a demon hunter with |
| 26484s | face off as well interesting to see what |
| 26486s | the bands are and it is actually face |
| 26488s | offs boar |
| 26490s | that has gone |
| 26492s | curse might have a bit more of an uphill |
| 26493s | struggle this time |
| 26496s | yeah it's it's um gonna be uh |
| 26500s | not quite as easy as it was as we saw |
| 26501s | for him in the quarterfinals |
| 26504s | um but you know obviously getting to |
| 26505s | this point with this type of lineup from |
| 26508s | face-off maybe not so much the board |
| 26510s | priest in general and you know having to |
| 26512s | eat a ban on it |
| 26514s | um |
| 26515s | he's |
| 26517s | made it to the top four with this very |
| 26519s | aggressive lineup so we'll see if you |
| 26521s | can continue that success space off |
| 26523s | gonna open with good old naga demon |
| 26526s | hunter |
| 26527s | yep what else can we say about this deck |
| 26530s | uh this is the version with a war blades |
| 26532s | in it and not a bone glaive that's it |
| 26535s | that's that's the analysis i think |
| 26536s | that's the only there's a man quick |
| 26538s | chilling in there i guess but pretty |
| 26540s | much the same as everybody else is |
| 26542s | playing there's those two or three slots |
| 26544s | that are still slightly up for debate |
| 26546s | and that's what he's chosen to put in |
| 26547s | them but the rest hit your opponent with |
| 26549s | loads of stuff then finish them off with |
| 26551s | a gigantic weapon or a gigantic ladies |
| 26554s | they know attack |
| 26555s | and that really is all there is to it |
| 26557s | although it's it's not as |
| 26558s | straightforward to play as you might |
| 26559s | think it's straightforward to win with |
| 26561s | because it's so powerful but |
| 26562s | quite a lot of technical aspects in |
| 26564s | terms of setting things up or not |
| 26565s | setting things up choosing tempo not |
| 26567s | choosing tempo but overall i think we've |
| 26569s | all seen this deck enough to understand |
| 26570s | all that anyway |
| 26573s | yeah it's uh been |
| 26576s | pretty much the deck |
| 26579s | yep uh for the course of the masters |
| 26581s | tour not drawing that many bands so it's |
| 26583s | up in pretty much all the series |
| 26585s | um we've seen players try and target it |
| 26588s | to an extent but |
| 26590s | um largely unsuccessful let's give it |
| 26594s | the managers are still |
| 26595s | uh up here in the finals uh or at least |
| 26598s | in the semifinals |
| 26599s | um |
| 26601s | but yeah uh we should be in for |
| 26604s | uh |
| 26605s | at least a a new |
| 26608s | taste of decks |
| 26610s | here in in the second semi-final just |
| 26612s | because we haven't got to see much of |
| 26614s | this pure aggro lineup |
| 26616s | that curse is bringing |
| 26618s | yeah i think this might be the weakest |
| 26620s | of the decks but i really like the |
| 26622s | construction of face hunter right now |
| 26624s | i'd much rather play |
| 26626s | quest hunter if i was playing on ladder |
| 26628s | without a |
| 26629s | game plan without a tournament game plan |
| 26631s | to have to follow i just like the way |
| 26633s | that every card in this deck does |
| 26635s | something on top of its numbers |
| 26637s | everything just reduces a little bit of |
| 26639s | mana or gives you an extra shot at |
| 26641s | something or does a bit of extra damage |
| 26643s | or dredges there's just |
| 26645s | a lot going on you still just jam your |
| 26647s | things on curve but they help your curve |
| 26649s | get even better a lot of the time |
| 26652s | and it's very consistent in what it does |
| 26654s | it's just a question of whether what it |
| 26655s | does |
| 26656s | is good enough not whether it's |
| 26658s | consistent enough |
| 26660s | yeah the big thing is whether or not |
| 26662s | it's going to be able to hold board |
| 26664s | against uh demon hunter right um |
| 26667s | that's been uh kind of the weakness of |
| 26669s | any type of aggressive hunter when we're |
| 26671s | talking about tempo uh match-ups |
| 26674s | specifically demon hunter tempo uh just |
| 26676s | because they have access to the one-man |
| 26677s | hero power uh they can hold board |
| 26680s | uh very well uh in the early game |
| 26683s | because of that |
| 26684s | and all the tools that they have access |
| 26685s | to so |
| 26687s | uh but let's get in the way kirsten is |
| 26688s | on the play and has a chalk oh already |
| 26691s | good oh truck into biscuit |
| 26693s | yeah what is this |
| 26695s | 2021 |
| 26697s | uh-huh |
| 26698s | a year of killing all day |
| 26701s | that was 2021 right |
| 26703s | it's certainly not this year whoa |
| 26707s | he was up there for a while in this one |
| 26708s | though to be fair |
| 26710s | yeah he was always two or something yeah |
| 26714s | always in ninth place even when 16 |
| 26716s | people qualify he comes ninth |
| 26719s | yep |
| 26720s | how it works |
| 26723s | face off with a wealth of not |
| 26724s | particularly great options here |
| 26727s | yeah this is uh my god he's got like a |
| 26730s | million ways to kill it |
| 26732s | but all of those ways also summon |
| 26734s | another one so multi-strike must have |
| 26737s | been tempting right |
| 26739s | just go blam blam into both |
| 26742s | just sort it out that way but now the |
| 26744s | frog has grown |
| 26748s | it's all grown up |
| 26751s | imagine if that summoned another three |
| 26753s | four frog tj how silly would that be |
| 26757s | yeah maybe you are just supposed to |
| 26759s | multi-strike i don't know |
| 26763s | right now |
| 26766s | far too late now yeah you're right |
| 26769s | just a giant drug chilling on the board |
| 26774s | now it's difficult maybe he was supposed |
| 26776s | to multi strike |
| 26781s | in one manner |
| 26782s | the hardest car to deal with |
| 26785s | oh |
| 26792s | okay |
| 26799s | that's going to be handy very soon as |
| 26801s | well |
| 26805s | yeah i could do with tidying up his |
| 26807s | curve a bit of the character yeah |
| 26810s | he's just trying to think if there's |
| 26810s | anything you know more powerful that he |
| 26813s | could do this turn but |
| 26815s | uh just harpoon gun is good |
| 26817s | i want to take the middle card here i |
| 26819s | think |
| 26833s | we're both just staring at this going |
| 26835s | this trog |
| 26837s | about this he can he |
| 26840s | he came chaos strike hero power |
| 26844s | i mean he still summons another trog but |
| 26847s | that's fine |
| 26850s | that's 17. he's already at 17 lobby yeah |
| 26854s | he's got the war blades the multi-strike |
| 26856s | so he could be okay |
| 26858s | yeah |
| 26859s | i mean this is a ton of damage like |
| 26861s | loaded up in hand already for face-off |
| 26863s | like this is the straight-up damage hand |
| 26865s | so |
| 26866s | you know we could be looking at a |
| 26867s | situation where he lets himself go down |
| 26869s | to |
| 26870s | you know pretty low life total but then |
| 26871s | is able to |
| 26873s | uh burst considerably from hand does |
| 26875s | have to answer this trog |
| 26876s | at some point currently uh |
| 26880s | cursed |
| 26884s | he attacked and is looking at the the |
| 26886s | dredge options but we can't see |
| 26889s | anything |
| 26890s | funky he can do i don't think so yeah |
| 26892s | they are |
| 26895s | um the scribe |
| 26900s | the cheapo |
| 26902s | other stuff |
| 26904s | yeah it's the most tempo |
| 26907s | quickly |
| 26909s | go we're gonna launch the arcane shot |
| 26911s | too is that what's gonna happen |
| 26912s | i'm gonna let this value sit |
| 26915s | don't let the value sit |
| 26919s | yeah something something |
| 26921s | terror coil piercing shot doesn't quite |
| 26923s | do anything but yeah |
| 26928s | incredibly scary for face-off though |
| 26930s | he does not have much time left |
| 26933s | let's just put it that way |
| 26935s | yeah it's always saying about these um |
| 26937s | warblades going to heal him back up |
| 26938s | quite a lot but while he's doing that he |
| 26940s | isn't getting anything onto the board |
| 26942s | and he plays director he might just be |
| 26944s | dead next turn |
| 26948s | yeah he could do something like ladies |
| 26950s | then oh |
| 26952s | power kill trogg |
| 26956s | coin |
| 26957s | invitation yeah |
| 26961s | it's put it just |
| 26964s | okay |
| 26967s | and hope that this lives |
| 26982s | getting shot describe arcane shot is a |
| 26984s | lot of stuff but then you don't get the |
| 26985s | value out of the terror coil |
| 26992s | i wonder |
| 26994s | is there any weird line where you just |
| 26996s | press hero power and hope they don't |
| 26997s | have war blades |
| 27009s | you have to kill this you can't live |
| 27012s | yeah |
| 27013s | it's just |
| 27015s | what are you doing alongside it |
| 27019s | he's got to decide if he wants to do the |
| 27021s | old-fashioned weave in the hero powers |
| 27023s | or whether he just wants to blast |
| 27024s | everything onto the board right that's |
| 27025s | the two sort of decisions over the next |
| 27027s | two turns that is |
| 27034s | and what do you think she's gonna get |
| 27035s | out of the piercing shot like he could |
| 27036s | terracoil double arcane shot here |
| 27039s | but yeah this is the straightforward |
| 27041s | looking play |
| 27046s | okay |
| 27048s | down to seven |
| 27055s | but these all rocky warblades are going |
| 27057s | to at least buy face off some time with |
| 27059s | lady steno gone it's gonna be |
| 27062s | about |
| 27065s | just trying to heal up as much as |
| 27067s | possible and piece together some damage |
| 27069s | probably could be all dracula blades |
| 27071s | multi-strike weave in a hero power and |
| 27072s | then do the same thing the next turn |
| 27074s | yeah just to try and gain as much as |
| 27076s | most uh |
| 27078s | efficient life as possible |
| 27081s | actually not even going to multi-strike |
| 27083s | realize |
| 27084s | can't die at 10. |
| 27087s | well |
| 27094s | okay |
| 27097s | okay indeed |
| 27100s | the trap has been set |
| 27109s | this is all the health gain he has left |
| 27111s | face-off and obviously the director's |
| 27113s | gonna get the board but |
| 27115s | there is damage |
| 27124s | yeah but at this point yeah |
| 27128s | you're not really worried about |
| 27130s | taunts because uh cursed game plan has |
| 27132s | switched over from |
| 27136s | minion damage to spell damage |
| 27140s | see what the pickup off the top is |
| 27144s | just a trog that's not good |
| 27147s | not what he wants at this stage |
| 27148s | he doesn't burn here i think |
| 27157s | it's just going to go for it i imagine |
| 27158s | it's just going to be arcane shot uh |
| 27160s | hero power and then another terror coil |
| 27163s | to try and set up for |
| 27165s | more outs off the top going into the |
| 27167s | next turn |
| 27169s | it will come down to this |
| 27174s | no health gain available for face-off |
| 27177s | no damage in hand currently for curse |
| 27179s | obviously like you say arcane shot is um |
| 27181s | the big deal here |
| 27185s | gotta assume that curse is dead next |
| 27187s | turn |
| 27188s | is gonna come just down to this one turn |
| 27190s | unless there's a lethal here which i |
| 27191s | don't think quite is there |
| 27194s | yeah |
| 27195s | so we're looking at um barbed nets |
| 27198s | because he does have the |
| 27201s | or it wouldn't even matter |
| 27204s | oh it is just |
| 27206s | wait what it's just like though okay |
| 27207s | it's exactly though not exactly though |
| 27210s | because the the dread person glaive |
| 27212s | being equipped |
| 27214s | there it is game one in the books |
| 27218s | that was a nice little setup |
| 27220s | actually uh |
| 27221s | [Music] |
| 27225s | oh yeah okay yep |
| 27228s | my bad |
| 27230s | cool |
| 27232s | next game yeah that was a nice little |
| 27233s | setup nice little spot and uh that's |
| 27235s | kind of the sneaky power of the dread |
| 27237s | prison glade when you have um |
| 27239s | uh in combination with multi-strike and |
| 27241s | other weapon buffs |
| 27242s | uh if you actually can get the honorable |
| 27245s | kill on a minion and then still be able |
| 27247s | to attack again |
| 27253s | situations like that where you're |
| 27254s | getting you're essentially |
| 27256s | not tripling up on damage but doubling |
| 27258s | up on damage um so you get the four |
| 27261s | damage from the honorable kill and then |
| 27263s | you get to multi-strike attack again to |
| 27264s | the face so uh exact lethal |
| 27267s | for face-off in that situation very well |
| 27270s | done |
| 27271s | and curse this facehunter uh obviously |
| 27273s | he got close but you know |
| 27276s | this is |
| 27277s | when you're putting a bunch of these |
| 27278s | mints in your deck drawing those two |
| 27281s | terracors terror coils |
| 27284s | early on |
| 27285s | but no real meaty spells to go along |
| 27288s | with them like quick shots |
| 27290s | cut down the value a little bit |
| 27292s | and also the aldrachi warblades come in |
| 27294s | for face-off uh did give him that |
| 27296s | necessary health obviously because he |
| 27298s | needed it ended that game at two life |
| 27302s | because that uh lethal did take |
| 27305s | uh some health uh to be able to get |
| 27307s | through since he had to get that |
| 27308s | honorable kill so now faceoff's gonna |
| 27310s | move to the control warrior |
| 27313s | and uh this one should be another |
| 27315s | difficult one for uh cursed lineup |
| 27319s | just because he is running essentially |
| 27321s | as aggressive as you can get |
| 27323s | uh with the current metagame and |
| 27326s | obviously controller one of the |
| 27329s | best anti-aggro decks in almost all of |
| 27332s | its iterations of all time |
| 27334s | yeah and because his aggro lineup is so |
| 27337s | small on health minions um he's had to |
| 27340s | ban out the priest which is awkward for |
| 27342s | him because that's very good at dealing |
| 27343s | with him with the pyros etc so |
| 27346s | having to go up against this warrior |
| 27348s | which is not ideal it's not what he |
| 27349s | wants to be doing in this tournament i'm |
| 27350s | sure uh it's worked well for him so far |
| 27353s | but he's gonna go in there with this |
| 27355s | mech mage |
| 27357s | first |
| 27360s | just so this is the meatiest of his |
| 27362s | decks i suppose right |
| 27365s | um |
| 27367s | it it still can |
| 27369s | struggle in the ultra |
| 27371s | deep late stage of the game if it gets |
| 27374s | there which it can with control warrior |
| 27376s | not playing the uh ambulance top amulets |
| 27379s | topping out at the uh |
| 27381s | the gaia |
| 27383s | so we'll see if it gets to that point |
| 27385s | but a ton of uh cool things you can do |
| 27388s | in with the sea floor getaway and mecca |
| 27390s | shark being able to have tons of damage |
| 27392s | from hand |
| 27395s | just a lot of |
| 27397s | tempo options |
| 27399s | are available |
| 27400s | for this deck and any board that sticks |
| 27402s | obviously uh can be |
| 27404s | pretty dangerous pretty dangerous when |
| 27407s | it comes to gaia |
| 27409s | being able to hit the board and deal |
| 27410s | lots of damage |
| 27412s | yeah also lots of options if he wants to |
| 27413s | go that way if the game presents itself |
| 27415s | to just hold sharks back reduce them and |
| 27418s | just have a |
| 27419s | massive shark off at some point and just |
| 27421s | do infinite damage but that is slow and |
| 27424s | tends not to work you've got to have |
| 27425s | done some damage to make it set it up um |
| 27428s | so yeah it's going to be awkward but we |
| 27430s | have seen the warrior deck we've seen |
| 27431s | the strong points of the warrior deck |
| 27433s | with the versatility and all the |
| 27435s | trickery it can do in the mid game |
| 27437s | sometimes it just doesn't draw anything |
| 27439s | useful and dies to anything it's |
| 27441s | it's not the most consistent of decks |
| 27444s | that's the price it pays for that |
| 27445s | mid-game versatility so sometimes it |
| 27447s | just loses |
| 27448s | and kurtz is obviously going to have to |
| 27450s | hope that this warrior just loses |
| 27453s | more times than you would expect let's |
| 27454s | put it that way but it is definitely |
| 27456s | possible |
| 27461s | all right can't hopefully we're all in |
| 27463s | the opening hand for face off |
| 27465s | is good uh cursed has |
| 27468s | yeah good stuff |
| 27471s | on curve good stuff |
| 27476s | question is do you go |
| 27478s | automaton here and then fall coin on |
| 27481s | tablet and then follow up with uh |
| 27486s | problem is click hacker wouldn't be |
| 27488s | buffing anything |
| 27490s | uh if you don't pick up |
| 27492s | um a mech next turn |
| 27495s | and because of that looks like curse is |
| 27497s | just going to play the click on her get |
| 27499s | the buff on the automaton |
| 27502s | yup do it in the opposite order of what |
| 27505s | i said |
| 27506s | kind of the same thing but your |
| 27508s | automaton doesn't have to face the music |
| 27511s | footer yeah exactly |
| 27518s | trench surveyor |
| 27520s | you there'll be a attention survey |
| 27522s | wouldn't you with all the fish in this |
| 27523s | deck |
| 27526s | is that a fish |
| 27528s | it is yeah |
| 27529s | what bird they're always fishes now i |
| 27531s | think that was a fish |
| 27536s | they're one in the same |
| 27538s | whenever you get these like anytime you |
| 27540s | hear of a creature you haven't heard of |
| 27542s | it's always a fish or a bird |
| 27545s | a life lesson tj |
| 27548s | um i think statistically |
| 27550s | it's an insect |
| 27553s | yeah but they're things that like you |
| 27554s | know it's an insect because not only if |
| 27556s | you have not heard of it it's called |
| 27557s | eight legopeed or something oh that's |
| 27559s | gotta be an insect but any anything with |
| 27561s | a five or six letter name that just |
| 27563s | sounds a bit sort of mediocre it's |
| 27565s | always a fish or a bird |
| 27573s | insects represent 40 |
| 27576s | of all known animal species |
| 27580s | statistically |
| 27581s | speaking forty percent forty percent of |
| 27584s | all known animal species are insects |
| 27587s | uh-huh but we know of fewer official |
| 27589s | birds |
| 27592s | because |
| 27593s | they're hard to get to |
| 27595s | insects they're in your house they're |
| 27596s | crawling on you it's easy fishing birds |
| 27598s | birds they're fishing in the sea you |
| 27600s | can't get near them |
| 27604s | yeah but how do you name them what's |
| 27605s | that it's gone |
| 27607s | flew away |
| 27609s | insects some insects are so tiny that |
| 27611s | you can't even see |
| 27615s | so why do we care about them they don't |
| 27617s | count |
| 27619s | well it's the same with fish and birds |
| 27621s | if they're in the sky or deep in the |
| 27623s | ocean and you never see them why do you |
| 27625s | care about them |
| 27626s | yep |
| 27627s | done by my own logic as always |
| 27630s | you can call it logic |
| 27632s | all right face off clearing up a large |
| 27634s | portion of this board in this semi-final |
| 27637s | game as we discuss whether attention is |
| 27639s | a fish or a bird |
| 27641s | or an insect apparently |
| 27644s | [Music] |
| 27646s | and |
| 27647s | plenty of car drawer here gotta be |
| 27649s | tempting to take the shark though |
| 27651s | damage set up |
| 27654s | yeah so double shark with uh c4 getaway |
| 27656s | right now |
| 27658s | c4 gateway i always say c4 getaway |
| 27662s | it makes sense right it does the exact |
| 27664s | opposite see if you're trying to get |
| 27666s | away from the sea floor because it's |
| 27668s | dangerous |
| 27669s | you have to go through the gateway to do |
| 27670s | it though |
| 27672s | that's right so you in order to |
| 27676s | get have the sea floor get away you got |
| 27677s | to go to the c4 gateway |
| 27679s | it does look like getaway it absolutely |
| 27681s | does when you're |
| 27683s | you're not |
| 27684s | functioning properly i guess |
| 27687s | yeah |
| 27688s | so |
| 27690s | curse just gone oh my god the shark |
| 27692s | triple |
| 27693s | mecha shark |
| 27695s | shark him |
| 27698s | and this is now a c4 get away from my |
| 27700s | game |
| 27701s | it's looking that way slowly isn't it |
| 27703s | well quickly in fact |
| 27705s | who's gonna count the lethal tj spoilers |
| 27708s | not me |
| 27711s | all right so uh |
| 27714s | the |
| 27714s | first one deals |
| 27717s | four |
| 27718s | uh 12. |
| 27721s | it's not like nine yeah and then six is |
| 27723s | it not has he got the mana he needs |
| 27726s | seven mana right |
| 27728s | and then he does 12 plus nine plus |
| 27731s | six |
| 27735s | but there's two minions left on the |
| 27737s | board |
| 27738s | 12 plus 18 plus |
| 27742s | somebody help i can't match this |
| 27745s | 12 plus 18 plus 18 for seven mana |
| 27748s | i can't be right that's way too much |
| 27751s | first one deals three |
| 27753s | second deal six |
| 27754s | third minion |
| 27756s | well mother ship |
| 27760s | but you can't you wouldn't be able to |
| 27761s | kill it off |
| 27768s | i think there's not much you know plus |
| 27770s | six |
| 27773s | yeah you're right it's |
| 27775s | plus nine plus nine next turn |
| 27784s | twelve plus nine plus six i think is the |
| 27785s | easy answer i just tried to work out |
| 27787s | just a backwards way |
| 27790s | no i did that first the first one just |
| 27796s | but that still uh |
| 27798s | ruins how much damage he could possibly |
| 27800s | do because uh that takes off the |
| 27803s | uh the third mech and trog is not a mech |
| 27806s | and also there's the bulging in the way |
| 27808s | now |
| 27813s | this one does 12. the second one is nine |
| 27815s | the third one does six that's 25 26 27. |
| 27818s | wait why are you going backwards |
| 27822s | wait what |
| 27825s | so the first one you play |
| 27827s | yeah then you play four more cards |
| 27830s | that's 12. |
| 27832s | but one of those cards is the second |
| 27834s | mecha shark and you play three more |
| 27835s | cards out of it which is nine |
| 27839s | then the last one you play two more |
| 27841s | cards after it and that's six |
| 27844s | okay |
| 27847s | it's 27 if he can fit in two mechs after |
| 27849s | the three mega sharks |
| 27851s | yep and he now has the the mothership on |
| 27854s | one health |
| 27856s | which adds another million to that |
| 27860s | yeah |
| 27861s | that would be if he could kill it off in |
| 27863s | the same turn |
| 27865s | i mean so next time he played three |
| 27866s | sharks the surveyor and pinged his |
| 27868s | mothership |
| 27870s | yeah |
| 27872s | true |
| 27873s | so then each of the minions summoned |
| 27875s | from the mother ship would deal nine |
| 27877s | yeah |
| 27879s | maybe nine plus six plus three plus nine |
| 27881s | in 27 |
| 27883s | 36 |
| 27885s | yep |
| 27886s | something like that |
| 27889s | it's more than 26 we're both sure of |
| 27890s | that right |
| 27891s | give or take increments of nine |
| 27894s | he plays mutants and eats the trog i'm |
| 27896s | pretty sure this is lethal |
| 27901s | oh yeah by a lot |
| 27903s | all the annoying it looks like just |
| 27905s | going to rancor |
| 27907s | which |
| 27909s | is going to gain him some health so now |
| 27910s | we're back to also board space is an |
| 27913s | issue here but he still would be able to |
| 27914s | play two mix after it and has |
| 27917s | six seven eight so could play the |
| 27918s | neurotron so this is |
| 27921s | seven damage on board okay not anymore |
| 27923s | four damage on board i think it's exact |
| 27925s | lethal and that's plus 27 |
| 27927s | 31. |
| 27929s | yeah yep you do it backwards to me we're |
| 27931s | doing it completely backwards feature |
| 27932s | that we're both getting 31 so it must be |
| 27934s | wrong tj |
| 27941s | yeah it's 27 plus 4 right |
| 27944s | 27 |
| 27945s | plus four |
| 27946s | yeah |
| 27947s | and we agreed despite the fact we can't |
| 27949s | agree on how to do it |
| 27951s | usually when we both agree on something |
| 27953s | it means we're wrong usually the only |
| 27955s | time we're right is when we disagree |
| 27960s | yeah because then we've got two chances |
| 27961s | at it |
| 27963s | but this time i haven't just agreed with |
| 27965s | you blindly we've worked it out in |
| 27966s | backwards to each other ways |
| 27969s | and we both think this is lethal |
| 27973s | yep |
| 27974s | there it is nine and then there's the |
| 27976s | four neal |
| 27979s | they got it we got it |
| 27981s | we did that we're 50 |
| 27983s | on lethal so far in this series over two |
| 27986s | games so we're doing great |
| 27988s | keep it up |
| 27989s | players are one-on-one and we're more |
| 27991s | importantly one-on-one already with |
| 27993s | three more chances tj just bought some |
| 27995s | lethals we can do this |
| 27997s | they give us an easy one like somebody |
| 27998s | have a three three on the board the |
| 28000s | opponent have three health that'd be |
| 28001s | wonderful but yet we got there and more |
| 28003s | importantly cursed worked it out um and |
| 28006s | got it done against the warrior so nice |
| 28008s | for him to pick up that win |
| 28009s | gonna have to do it again with two more |
| 28011s | aggro decks at some point but |
| 28013s | can't |
| 28014s | win more than one game at a time a wise |
| 28017s | man once taught me |
| 28020s | yep he's got the only game that matters |
| 28023s | is this game |
| 28025s | yeah |
| 28026s | and after that game the only game that |
| 28027s | matters is that game |
| 28029s | uh-huh until an admin messages you and |
| 28032s | says all right you won or you lost stop |
| 28035s | playing |
| 28036s | the only thing that matters is that game |
| 28038s | that you're currently playing |
| 28041s | that's the point where you might as you |
| 28042s | get out of bed for your house so much |
| 28048s | all right so we got warrior still |
| 28049s | remaining and druid for face off and we |
| 28052s | have uh druid but it is the uh more |
| 28055s | aggressive uh bishou i believe he's also |
| 28057s | playing pride furies |
| 28059s | yes |
| 28060s | yep as opposed to the uh gardens |
| 28064s | uh park panthers as well |
| 28066s | [Music] |
| 28068s | and kennels |
| 28070s | so this is closer |
| 28072s | to |
| 28073s | old bistro |
| 28075s | i tend to prefer the gardens because i |
| 28076s | think it has a higher ceiling |
| 28078s | um and that's what i look for in an |
| 28080s | aggro deck is just the ability to you |
| 28082s | know absolutely steamroll games |
| 28084s | and have the uh |
| 28086s | maximum potential power |
| 28089s | but obviously |
| 28090s | pride figure gives you more consistency |
| 28092s | because even if you get gardens |
| 28094s | if you don't find a way to dredge up the |
| 28095s | gardens |
| 28096s | um then it it it doesn't matter um so |
| 28101s | uh we'll see |
| 28103s | i i i still |
| 28104s | am |
| 28106s | in the boat of not having much faith in |
| 28109s | the be short overall i feel like it's |
| 28111s | been quite lackluster we have seen a few |
| 28113s | players that did make it to the top 16 |
| 28114s | that included be street in their lineup |
| 28117s | um but it just feels like it doesn't |
| 28118s | have those those uh as big of you know |
| 28121s | power spikes as |
| 28123s | uh as ram druid does where |
| 28125s | you know if they reach a certain point |
| 28127s | of the game it feels like they just win |
| 28130s | uh whereas b street is not always like |
| 28132s | that but curse is going to play the |
| 28134s | hunter |
| 28135s | first off this face hunter |
| 28138s | and this is in keeping with the druid |
| 28140s | you described right it's the same sort |
| 28142s | of thing where |
| 28143s | this is by no means necessarily got any |
| 28145s | sort of sustain at all but it just does |
| 28147s | what it does as quickly as possible not |
| 28149s | interested in sustain or spikes or |
| 28151s | anything like that he's just gonna place |
| 28153s | cards hit you and the last card card's |
| 28155s | going to do the last point of damage |
| 28157s | and if you're going to bring a lineup to |
| 28158s | a tournament having a consistent plan |
| 28161s | like that can be of course the decks can |
| 28163s | be very important |
| 28165s | yes |
| 28171s | first already in the think tank here |
| 28174s | whether or not it's trogg or |
| 28175s | slitherspear on one |
| 28177s | so this beer has more potential damage |
| 28180s | or is usually not going to be playing a |
| 28181s | spell |
| 28182s | anytime soon regardless |
| 28185s | dark |
| 28186s | skinned |
| 28188s | the other problem with the truck is it |
| 28189s | can run into sort of spell spell rank or |
| 28191s | something like that quite quickly and |
| 28193s | just undo all the good work |
| 28205s | weaving in the hero powers on both sides |
| 28209s | i just play your things |
| 28212s | yep |
| 28214s | where do you put the biscuit |
| 28217s | play around right core |
| 28219s | absolutely |
| 28221s | bam black oh my god |
| 28226s | what is this |
| 28228s | yeah and uh he's got nothing in the ways |
| 28231s | of |
| 28232s | uh |
| 28233s | shield shattered nonsense |
| 28235s | doesn't have either thing |
| 28237s | the armor gain or the shield shatter |
| 28246s | ooh |
| 28248s | well now we've reached an impasse here |
| 28256s | one of his attempts to play the chalk |
| 28258s | this time because the rancor would |
| 28259s | actually it wouldn't be nice but it'd |
| 28261s | take up all the faceoffs mana and |
| 28262s | wouldn't really kill much |
| 28265s | no he's going to keep it it looks i like |
| 28267s | it |
| 28274s | the drake would get piercing shotted |
| 28275s | most likely |
| 28277s | there's just nothing |
| 28295s | i mean you still do it |
| 28297s | the question is like do you hold back |
| 28299s | trog |
| 28300s | yes you can leave shut it next time |
| 28303s | yourself |
| 28305s | yeah or weave in a hero power and then |
| 28307s | trog piercing shot hero proud of the |
| 28309s | following turn if absolutely needed yep |
| 28312s | it's just damage at this point |
| 28314s | yeah |
| 28316s | but faceoff needs is that a frozen |
| 28319s | buckler oh no it's the shield shatter |
| 28323s | uh so needs snoggling into frozen |
| 28326s | buckler |
| 28328s | yeah |
| 28329s | into staying alive somehow still as well |
| 28335s | into frozen buckler would still be |
| 28337s | lethal and be exactly 12 from curse even |
| 28340s | through the armor |
| 28342s | uh with the with piercing shot plus hero |
| 28344s | power but from his perspective that |
| 28345s | might be the only way to survive |
| 28347s | uh could also uh there are nine cards in |
| 28350s | hand uh forged in flames and then hit |
| 28352s | frozen buckler and be able to shield |
| 28354s | shatter clear |
| 28355s | um would only get two out of the three |
| 28357s | draws |
| 28358s | but this might be a desperate enough |
| 28360s | situation to where that's |
| 28362s | um a relevant play i actually like this |
| 28365s | a whole a whole lot better |
| 28369s | because two chances |
| 28374s | oh |
| 28375s | shield slam |
| 28376s | reed bossa nixia oh no |
| 28379s | heavy plate would not have been enough |
| 28383s | it actually would have been enough to |
| 28385s | uh keep him alive if that was one of the |
| 28386s | first two draws |
| 28388s | but wouldn't have been enough to shield |
| 28389s | chatter so the five five would have |
| 28390s | still been uh stuck around so |
| 28393s | cursed dodging |
| 28395s | a very getting a very important matchup |
| 28398s | across the board obviously |
| 28400s | this could have relatively easily picked |
| 28402s | up a win against the druid |
| 28404s | but |
| 28405s | delaying the time that the warrior gets |
| 28407s | a win and giving your be shruid that |
| 28409s | additional chance to find a win in the |
| 28412s | series is a pretty massive deal |
| 28415s | um |
| 28416s | though just a rough paying out for |
| 28418s | faceoff he just drew all of the |
| 28420s | expensive stuff |
| 28421s | early on and |
| 28423s | none of the stuff that makes control |
| 28424s | warrior |
| 28426s | good against decks like this that's a |
| 28428s | pretty rough loss |
| 28430s | and it's 2-1 to curse what do you think |
| 28432s | he's been doing this whole tournament |
| 28433s | like eight rounds of swiss he's played |
| 28435s | like 15 minutes of hearthstone he's just |
| 28437s | been sitting around watching the games |
| 28438s | watching the stream chilling having a |
| 28440s | bit of a sleep |
| 28441s | just resting it's always a big advantage |
| 28443s | if you can find an aggro line at the |
| 28444s | works like that because you just get to |
| 28446s | be fresh the whole tournament where |
| 28447s | everyone else is slogging it out with |
| 28449s | their warrior versus the control paladin |
| 28452s | or something like |
| 28453s | struggling and struggling every turn |
| 28455s | you're saying no i don't think about |
| 28456s | really hard things for four turns then |
| 28458s | just finish the game |
| 28463s | it is good for your energy levels right |
| 28467s | yeah you just have to do intense |
| 28468s | thinking |
| 28470s | for five minutes at a time |
| 28472s | yeah that have been tense thinking for |
| 28474s | 50 minutes at a time |
| 28475s | and that adds up |
| 28477s | right so yeah |
| 28478s | to 30 most of the time |
| 28482s | exactly |
| 28484s | often times even more if you're playing |
| 28486s | against any class that can gain life |
| 28488s | still a 31 a minute ago |
| 28490s | 31 |
| 28491s | mana 31 damage otk on turn like 708 with |
| 28495s | mechs that didn't have to attack that |
| 28498s | was good |
| 28499s | beast druid tj you've talked about it a |
| 28501s | minute ago has that little bit of burst |
| 28503s | with the park panthers um |
| 28505s | a pretend arbor up in the prize fury and |
| 28508s | a whole bunch of trucks and stuff |
| 28513s | it's gonna be against the warrior |
| 28516s | the warrior seems cursed right now |
| 28521s | but it's not cursed because cursed is |
| 28523s | the player at the bottom |
| 28529s | i'm curious what of the stuff that he |
| 28531s | keeps being on the coin |
| 28537s | keep the stuff |
| 28539s | look at it it's just stuff |
| 28541s | composting into more stuff |
| 28544s | you just keep it uh |
| 28547s | oh |
| 28552s | sure but |
| 28554s | you've got to use it at the right time |
| 28555s | or composting is just going to let um |
| 28557s | curse to reload |
| 28559s | yeah |
| 28561s | with oracle |
| 28567s | you have to expect it at a certain point |
| 28569s | yeah he's already pursing his lips now |
| 28571s | he's sort of |
| 28572s | got a slight look of fear on his face |
| 28575s | what is this four keep gonna do |
| 28578s | yeah |
| 28580s | okay well he's got to two mana so now he |
| 28581s | can actually do the shield shatter |
| 28582s | buckler thing |
| 28584s | yep |
| 28592s | that's rancor as well so this is a |
| 28594s | a very good start |
| 28596s | compared to last game curse is going to |
| 28598s | have some have to have some |
| 28601s | significant reload in this game |
| 28610s | and that composting is going to hit most |
| 28612s | likely now going into the rank or turn |
| 28614s | it be remiss not to i think |
| 28618s | yeah it's gonna look for a one here |
| 28619s | probably with aquatic form |
| 28622s | sure |
| 28626s | but we may never know |
| 28629s | yeah oh |
| 28632s | that's the best one |
| 28634s | all right |
| 28635s | rank all this you can have 10 armor i'll |
| 28637s | have five cars let's see who wins the |
| 28639s | race |
| 28645s | i'm not quite sure that's a lot of stuff |
| 28647s | with oracle and reload and squirrels |
| 28649s | doing their thing oh |
| 28654s | that might go on a little while |
| 28657s | let's see |
| 28661s | how many squirrels were that will there |
| 28663s | be |
| 28664s | there's an icon one there's an icon |
| 28670s | do two |
| 28672s | two okay just two that's fine |
| 28679s | not fine not the one yeah you're not the |
| 28680s | one facing them down tj |
| 28688s | seems like just a good opportunity to |
| 28690s | get some kennels |
| 28693s | got two in the hands it's got to get |
| 28695s | get them going eventually |
| 28697s | outside of that i'm not sure which of |
| 28699s | the ones to go for |
| 28701s | you could put drew to the reef in attack |
| 28703s | mode |
| 28710s | kind of like the truck just sort of |
| 28712s | tempting out the vehicle |
| 28715s | there's only one vancouver in the deck |
| 28716s | actually so |
| 28718s | yep that's gone |
| 28727s | the weird thing about it is |
| 28732s | the weird thing about playing against |
| 28733s | this is like every minion doesn't seem |
| 28735s | worth dealing with individually but |
| 28737s | you've got to do something about them |
| 28742s | yeah he's got plenty of time though um |
| 28745s | there's no rush for the frozen buckler |
| 28746s | shield chatter obviously you know |
| 28749s | pride's fury |
| 28750s | um |
| 28752s | uh could be a big deal eventually but |
| 28756s | currently everything would still die to |
| 28758s | the shield shatter even if it was prides |
| 28760s | furied |
| 28761s | yeah um |
| 28762s | and well actually it's a coin so it |
| 28764s | could pride's fury plus |
| 28766s | power of the wild but |
| 28768s | i don't know if you're expecting that |
| 28770s | two-card combination this early |
| 28772s | especially on a board that's uh this |
| 28775s | low and just raw attack value |
| 28779s | but on the other side of that if you sit |
| 28780s | there and just take seven every turn and |
| 28782s | cursed just fiddles around putting a |
| 28784s | little bit more attack down |
| 28787s | you are taking chunky damage whilst |
| 28789s | curse still has the reload in hand so |
| 28791s | it's gonna be interesting to see how |
| 28792s | cursed how much he puts out there to try |
| 28795s | and force the removal |
| 28797s | and where face off decides okay this is |
| 28799s | too much i have to remove it |
| 28801s | gonna be a battle of wits |
| 28817s | yeah i mean |
| 28818s | this is about as much value as you could |
| 28820s | hope for from park panther in this |
| 28822s | matchup uh-huh |
| 28824s | nice little trade board clear little bit |
| 28826s | of additional damage push as well |
| 28829s | and again just says off you go do you |
| 28831s | want to deal with this now there's |
| 28832s | another two out there |
| 28834s | yep i've got seven cards in my hand |
| 28842s | and goes back to what's saying a minute |
| 28843s | ago like |
| 28844s | you can't pick these off one at a time |
| 28846s | the drake's pretty sort of hopeless at |
| 28848s | that against two ones |
| 28851s | but it's just adding up |
| 28863s | shield slam on all one two great good |
| 28865s | luck |
| 28876s | i like how the kennels |
| 28878s | the things the kennels are looking at |
| 28879s | the squirrels it's good |
| 28887s | why because they want to eat them |
| 28889s | yeah and they're actually on the right |
| 28891s | side on the on the board as well yeah |
| 28894s | all right he's drawn out the the shield |
| 28896s | shatter |
| 28897s | another game properly begins now he can |
| 28899s | get on with saying okay well if you've |
| 28901s | got another combo kill sure |
| 28903s | get really a second shield shutter on |
| 28905s | you know unlucky |
| 28907s | now we can start loading stuff up |
| 28912s | yeah but what is it one composting has |
| 28914s | been used and there's not a lot of raw |
| 28916s | power that can be |
| 28918s | made on this board |
| 28919s | um |
| 28921s | and you still have kennels rolling for |
| 28924s | three four more turns essentially |
| 28926s | because |
| 28927s | you're just going to replay another |
| 28928s | kennel's next turn |
| 28929s | so how how how much does curse want to |
| 28932s | commit that's the the big question i |
| 28934s | think |
| 28935s | um |
| 28936s | i |
| 28938s | double druid yes oracle yeah just double |
| 28941s | druid the reef hope they don't have a |
| 28942s | clear and then next turn play the adept |
| 28944s | and get a load of damage in if they |
| 28946s | don't have another clear |
| 28949s | yeah easy for me to say because i can |
| 28950s | see it's not there he's got to play |
| 28951s | around it because face off is still on |
| 28953s | that 10 armor |
| 28958s | a lot next turn |
| 28962s | all the damage |
| 28968s | 22 |
| 28973s | 23 next turn 24 next turn plus the pound |
| 28976s | third oh there's a lot |
| 28983s | that just enables the panther |
| 28987s | oh |
| 28996s | 23 now |
| 29000s | 14 20 |
| 29001s | 24 because you get the plus one yourself |
| 29004s | from the adept as well right where's it |
| 29005s | 23 |
| 29007s | it's 14 on board plus six from the claw |
| 29010s | for clawfury adept |
| 29013s | that's 20 and then park panther would be |
| 29015s | 23.93 yeah um |
| 29017s | yeah what about clawfury adept prides |
| 29019s | fury if it was picked up off the top |
| 29021s | plus hero power |
| 29023s | living roots face as well thirteen |
| 29025s | fourteen |
| 29026s | six twenty oh yeah |
| 29030s | that's that taken on the composting |
| 29031s | posting his mouth he can do it he can |
| 29033s | just go for it and if it goes wrong he's |
| 29035s | got another five cards |
| 29042s | 2122 without it i think if you go for |
| 29045s | everything |
| 29047s | what to do |
| 29049s | is he gonna get there tj over the next |
| 29051s | couple of turns is this this aggro |
| 29053s | lineup just so fast it gets under the |
| 29055s | warrior |
| 29061s | i like the park panther because it |
| 29062s | sticks around |
| 29064s | i'm unsure about the living roots |
| 29066s | because using that for burst damage |
| 29068s | seems like it could be quite good |
| 29071s | and then clean |
| 29072s | coin |
| 29073s | composting yeah i like this i like this |
| 29075s | a lot |
| 29076s | the living roots was only if it's a |
| 29077s | lethal if it's not a lethal you don't do |
| 29079s | it it's it's composting right just get |
| 29081s | more damage in your hand |
| 29083s | your opponent has shown they can't clear |
| 29085s | this board just have a board if they do |
| 29086s | clear it off a top deck you get six more |
| 29089s | cards and do it all again |
| 29094s | he's going to get there tj |
| 29096s | he's going to reach the final |
| 29099s | well |
| 29101s | if faceoff finds a way to deal with this |
| 29103s | board cursed has like a turn of |
| 29105s | development right |
| 29106s | um |
| 29108s | from the depths is is a good pickup uh |
| 29111s | probably |
| 29113s | depending on what the the uh |
| 29115s | actual options are |
| 29116s | you can draw a card immediately |
| 29120s | um but he can look for a piece of |
| 29122s | removal here |
| 29124s | actually running low on removal because |
| 29126s | it doesn't have wouldn't have the armor |
| 29128s | gain uh |
| 29129s | okay i think it's |
| 29131s | gotta be sir finley at this point uh-huh |
| 29135s | yep so then you uh take the draw get the |
| 29137s | sir finley |
| 29141s | i guess this is free so |
| 29143s | yeah as well you still get the extra |
| 29146s | cards |
| 29149s | brawl and then sir finley |
| 29154s | because he uh he saw a heavy plate right |
| 29156s | in the bottom so he has that little bit |
| 29158s | of a |
| 29159s | bit of armor gain in order to get there |
| 29161s | yep |
| 29163s | he sits up in his chair |
| 29166s | [Applause] |
| 29168s | if park panther survived that would have |
| 29170s | been rough |
| 29172s | it draws any um squirrels this could be |
| 29174s | still awkward oh yeah squirrels |
| 29177s | oh there's only one squirrel there's |
| 29178s | actually a good amount in the deck |
| 29181s | there were yeah there was still six left |
| 29182s | did he run out of time to play anything |
| 29185s | oh well |
| 29187s | then he's doing he left himself dead he |
| 29189s | had the heavy plate too oh no |
| 29193s | oh no |
| 29194s | i don't think it was lethal through the |
| 29196s | heavy plate because there was lethal |
| 29197s | present on board i don't know if there |
| 29198s | was a way it would he had uh prize fury |
| 29201s | coffee or adept living roots |
| 29204s | right |
| 29205s | so that would have been |
| 29206s | um |
| 29208s | six plus three nine eleven |
| 29212s | yeah he wouldn't have had that i don't |
| 29213s | think |
| 29215s | wow do thirteen |
| 29218s | because he had already used the second |
| 29219s | living roots as well oh that's that is |
| 29221s | rough and with that i mean |
| 29224s | a pretty anti-climactic end to that one |
| 29226s | i didn't expect him to win that turn |
| 29228s | because uh he did have access to that |
| 29230s | heavy play after sir finley he just |
| 29231s | didn't go fast enough but cursed 3-1 |
| 29235s | moving on to the finals some really |
| 29238s | tough matchups in that series but was |
| 29240s | able to get through that warrior |
| 29242s | multiple times |
| 29244s | with aggressive decks |
| 29246s | decks that you would think would have a |
| 29247s | very tough time against the control |
| 29250s | warrior but getting it done |
| 29253s | yeah and that last game showed a lot of |
| 29255s | his skill as well it's easy to to laugh |
| 29258s | at aggro deck sometimes you say well you |
| 29260s | know it's easy but he went to just the |
| 29262s | right pace he realized faceoff had to |
| 29264s | use aoe at some point just tempted it |
| 29267s | out and then |
| 29268s | when he got the chance to a huge damage |
| 29270s | turn he did that while he had a lot of |
| 29273s | opportunity which again is easy for us |
| 29274s | to say because we can see the hand but |
| 29276s | he has to sort of image in his mind what |
| 29278s | the hand might be |
| 29280s | then he made sure he constantly had |
| 29281s | carved his hand to reload more than |
| 29284s | he could and he is in the final and just |
| 29287s | for a change tj |
| 29289s | is going to be china versus europe in |
| 29291s | that final |
| 29296s | wow |
| 29298s | by surprise |
| 29300s | who knew |
| 29301s | but one thing that we can take away from |
| 29304s | this neil this i i'll consider this a |
| 29306s | shared victory uh for us americans |
| 29310s | um is with curse win that does mean that |
| 29312s | no matter what happens in the final |
| 29315s | i've won |
| 29316s | the prediction battle |
| 29318s | casters how how's that how does that |
| 29320s | work oh cause you picked cursed uh |
| 29323s | a bit cursed yeah he did |
| 29326s | so he is that's where his name came |
| 29327s | farthest |
| 29329s | well done tj you have once again for the |
| 29331s | americas region |
| 29333s | as americans have got i've always got |
| 29334s | the wrong way here every time |
| 29337s | i punched him that was a bit late |
| 29340s | we've done it we've won the prediction |
| 29342s | battle |
| 29345s | this one |
| 29346s | it's it's just all the wrong size and |
| 29348s | everything yeah boom that's the wrong |
| 29350s | way i can never do it the right way we |
| 29352s | noticed that with the camera the other |
| 29354s | day we'll have to work on that for next |
| 29355s | season |
| 29357s | even though us americans can't find dubs |
| 29361s | anywhere in terms of actually winning |
| 29363s | hearthstone games |
| 29364s | we still |
| 29366s | get a victory |
| 29367s | in something that's a prediction battle |
| 29369s | well done neil well done couldn't have |
| 29371s | done it without you |
| 29372s | i mean to be fair you couldn't half the |
| 29374s | time because usually i make them for you |
| 29375s | but today you did it all by yourself |
| 29376s | well done |
| 29378s | yes all right well that's the second |
| 29381s | semi-final in the books i mean our final |
| 29384s | is set up it's going to be msbc taking |
| 29386s | on cursed |
| 29387s | for the title of masters tour voyage to |
| 29390s | the sunken city champion |
| 29392s | um but before we uh jump into that final |
| 29395s | we are gonna have to take a break uh |
| 29397s | curse just played he's gonna have to |
| 29398s | play in the finals so we're gonna give |
| 29399s | him some time uh to reset uh get his |
| 29402s | mind ready |
| 29404s | he's longer to reset that he actually |
| 29406s | does to beat people |
| 29408s | that's that's basically what it comes |
| 29409s | down to |
| 29410s | um but we're gonna give him some time uh |
| 29412s | before we jump into that final so we're |
| 29413s | gonna go to a quick break don't go |
| 29414s | anywhere the conclusion to masters tour |
| 29417s | voice in the sunken city right after |
| 29419s | this |
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| 30034s | it is time for the voyage to the sunken |
| 30037s | city finals here i'm raven and joining |
| 30040s | me for this one is subtle i believe it's |
| 30041s | been a while since we actually cast a |
| 30043s | masters tour finals together i think i |
| 30045s | think we've dipped in and out with other |
| 30048s | people but we are together for this one |
| 30050s | and what finals it's gonna be honestly |
| 30052s | subtle on one side we have msbc who's uh |
| 30055s | managing to hold the hopes of china i |
| 30057s | guess uh alone throughout the whole top |
| 30060s | 16 and then on the other side we have |
| 30062s | cursed uh running an extremely |
| 30065s | aggressive and fairly unique lineup and |
| 30067s | getting the job done convincingly on his |
| 30070s | road to the finals so either way i think |
| 30072s | we're gonna have a spicy one for this |
| 30074s | one subtle |
| 30075s | yeah and i feel like i've been missing |
| 30077s | out for most of the tournament uh |
| 30079s | largely because i haven't cast with you |
| 30081s | since day one obviously but uh also |
| 30083s | because i haven't got to cars cursed so |
| 30085s | far uh he mentioned that you know he |
| 30087s | didn't actually get any camera time in |
| 30089s | his run through the swiss and that well |
| 30091s | they can't dodge me anymore because now |
| 30092s | i'm in top eight and every matchup gets |
| 30094s | streamed so i'll show them what they've |
| 30095s | been missing and he absolutely made good |
| 30098s | on that promise with two uh phenomenal |
| 30101s | performances you know more so in the top |
| 30102s | eight match where he just absolutely |
| 30104s | blitzed through there have been some |
| 30106s | stormers for sure grand masters uh with |
| 30110s | you know the likes of blyson frenetic |
| 30112s | and gabby and casey and so on flying the |
| 30114s | flag for the rapid play uh but in terms |
| 30116s | of masters tour that has to be right the |
| 30118s | way up there in terms of you know speed |
| 30120s | run 80 world record for a hearthstone |
| 30123s | series and then that semi-final um just |
| 30126s | just now if you've just been watching a |
| 30129s | very strong performance as well showing |
| 30131s | that quad aggro raven's prediction for |
| 30134s | uh winning the masters tour uh coming |
| 30136s | good and finding its way in the final |
| 30138s | but raven why did you then let the side |
| 30140s | down and not pick cursed so at least we |
| 30143s | could counter tj |
| 30145s | come on i know i know and honestly if i |
| 30147s | was going off lineups alone |
| 30150s | i would have picked curse because i just |
| 30152s | think it again as i said to you before |
| 30153s | the time even started the aggro felt |
| 30156s | good to me but it was difficult to not |
| 30159s | just root for orange you know you know |
| 30161s | this as well and uh again we saw orange |
| 30164s | just about a brief note as we check out |
| 30165s | uh |
| 30166s | msbc's first list in the control warrior |
| 30169s | but orange did tweet that you know he's |
| 30172s | happy he had a good run he would have |
| 30173s | loved to have gone to the finals but he |
| 30175s | has ticked a lot of boxes this weekend |
| 30178s | for his you know for the rest of the |
| 30179s | year for him basically so |
| 30181s | another congratulations to orange there |
| 30183s | for his performance this weekend but for |
| 30185s | now we are on this finals and on one |
| 30188s | side we do have cursed um |
| 30190s | hyper aggro lineup but on the other side |
| 30192s | we have decks such as control warrior |
| 30194s | from msbc so i will say for me subtle |
| 30198s | i'm quite surprised that exactly like if |
| 30201s | we look at archetypes these two lineups |
| 30203s | specifically have gotten to the finals |
| 30205s | and maybe because i didn't put enough |
| 30207s | respect onto the uh the naga mage |
| 30210s | especially the naga ping mage uh along |
| 30212s | with the priest as well i felt |
| 30214s | especially after day one priest wasn't |
| 30216s | really looking great for me but both |
| 30218s | players have done a great job of |
| 30219s | bringing you know reasonably unique |
| 30221s | lineups all the way to the last match |
| 30223s | and it wasn't wouldn't be the first time |
| 30225s | that something like this would happen |
| 30226s | you look back at a love storm a couple |
| 30229s | of masters ago |
| 30231s | with kind of an off-the-wall line up of |
| 30233s | his own which then kind of set the |
| 30235s | standard and you had like blize for |
| 30237s | example european grand master then came |
| 30239s | to the first week of europe grand |
| 30241s | masters and brought love storms line up |
| 30243s | like you know china came along they |
| 30245s | changed the meta and they set the new |
| 30246s | standard with a a very off-the-wall kind |
| 30249s | of approach to line-up building for |
| 30251s | conquest and four masters tours and |
| 30253s | clearly |
| 30254s | as a region as a country they are doing |
| 30256s | something right when it comes to |
| 30257s | hearthstone because they are very much |
| 30260s | right up there neck and neck and perhaps |
| 30262s | a little bit ahead of the europe region |
| 30264s | these days in terms of you know overall |
| 30266s | results based on the the sample of |
| 30268s | players that they have available to play |
| 30269s | so you know absolutely congratulations |
| 30271s | to the work those players have put in to |
| 30273s | really rising to the top because you |
| 30275s | know it was not that long ago that i was |
| 30277s | one of the biggest critics of the |
| 30279s | standard of play that the chinese |
| 30280s | players who had come over to |
| 30282s | championships back in |
| 30283s | 2015 2016 so on and i just didn't feel |
| 30287s | like they were putting up the same |
| 30288s | numbers as the the other representatives |
| 30291s | from from apac america's europe i just |
| 30293s | didn't feel like they were on the same |
| 30294s | standard and were comfortably at times |
| 30297s | the fourth region and now at times they |
| 30299s | are comfortably the first and that is an |
| 30301s | astronomical rise um for that region but |
| 30306s | having said that we did see that control |
| 30308s | warrior for example in the previous |
| 30310s | series did not really put up too much of |
| 30312s | a fight against what kurst is packing on |
| 30314s | the other side which is perhaps a little |
| 30316s | bit surprising in at least the case of a |
| 30318s | couple of the decks |
| 30319s | i do think mech mage generally just gets |
| 30322s | the gas going long enough and hard |
| 30324s | enough to uh to overwhelm warrior in a |
| 30326s | lot of positions but some of these other |
| 30328s | more flimsy aggro decks you would expect |
| 30330s | control warrior to have some good |
| 30331s | matchups against |
| 30332s | er that is very very true indeed i do |
| 30334s | really like the build that cursed has |
| 30337s | gone for with his face hunter though i |
| 30339s | think again like yes quest hunter has |
| 30342s | been dominating for you know a while now |
| 30344s | as the main hunter archetype i would say |
| 30347s | uh but just the fact that the additional |
| 30348s | one drop of vicious lithosphere uh to |
| 30351s | help out with those buffs the help of |
| 30353s | the extra damage from cards such as the |
| 30355s | air |
| 30356s | i will continue to just call it face |
| 30358s | naga and also the uh the raw power of |
| 30362s | twin bow terror coil right we have |
| 30364s | already seen multiple times over the |
| 30366s | course of this weekend that you know not |
| 30368s | as much in specifically this list |
| 30371s | because they're not just on you know the |
| 30373s | same level of of spells expected to be |
| 30375s | in hand as quest hunter but still |
| 30378s | piercing shots in there aim shots in |
| 30380s | there the buffs doubling up are in there |
| 30383s | right so it is still more than enough |
| 30385s | and we've seen time and time again the |
| 30387s | amount of damage that just that being |
| 30388s | able to activate that naga uh provides |
| 30391s | is almost to the extent like you can't |
| 30393s | even play around some of it right |
| 30395s | because you just can't really say oh |
| 30397s | well twin bla twin bow sorry is live i |
| 30400s | have to assume i can take like just 10 |
| 30402s | from one card next turn or something |
| 30404s | like that right it's so much damage to |
| 30406s | try and manage |
| 30408s | good old twin bow slice yes indeed um |
| 30410s | it's uh it's a card that was the undoing |
| 30413s | of cursed in a particular matchup |
| 30415s | previously against faceoff where just |
| 30417s | having the four health minion on board |
| 30419s | ended up being exactly lethal because of |
| 30421s | the the four times four that was being |
| 30422s | presented the other way um with the the |
| 30425s | glaive and the honorable kill effect but |
| 30427s | again it was only that card that was |
| 30430s | giving him one card outs off the top for |
| 30432s | leaf right and the next turn right aim |
| 30434s | shot quick shot kind of deals and that |
| 30436s | would have been able to secure that |
| 30437s | lethal so it is definitely a big boon to |
| 30440s | this version of the deck and it is kind |
| 30442s | of amusing to me the way that sort of |
| 30443s | naming conventions just kind of uh |
| 30445s | dissipate throughout the scene and we |
| 30447s | all go with them like this is face |
| 30449s | hunter but the aggro demon hunter that |
| 30452s | just hits you in the face with big |
| 30454s | weapons and plays significantly less |
| 30456s | nagas than the face hunter does yeah |
| 30459s | it's called naga demon hunter how did |
| 30461s | that happen why are we okay with this |
| 30463s | i'm very confused and for me the |
| 30465s | confusion is the demon hunter like oh it |
| 30468s | has a naga and it must be naga demon and |
| 30470s | it's like well |
| 30472s | it's probably closer to weapon demon |
| 30473s | hunter i think with like the majority of |
| 30475s | the damage being linked to not only the |
| 30478s | the one drop but also the glaive itself |
| 30480s | time and time again this weekend we've |
| 30482s | seen like coin glaive or just glave and |
| 30484s | it's like wow that is just 10 damage at |
| 30486s | a minimum like with just that one card |
| 30489s | it provides so much sort of catch up or |
| 30491s | game finishing ability but yeah we are |
| 30493s | going to see this warrior versus the |
| 30495s | hunter and do you think the more sort of |
| 30498s | minion and tricky style of current |
| 30501s | control warrior |
| 30502s | is going to have enough removal to deal |
| 30505s | with this type of hunter because it's |
| 30507s | less about just infinitely gaining armor |
| 30509s | like it tries to do i think in quest |
| 30511s | hunter versus quest hunter and more |
| 30514s | about at least my question is warrior |
| 30516s | lacks that cheap little removal in the |
| 30518s | first few turns of the game right now or |
| 30520s | at least that's what i think yeah i |
| 30522s | think that's fair and i think that is a |
| 30526s | gap that some people have noticed is |
| 30528s | that you can get under the control |
| 30530s | warrior now not necessarily a thing that |
| 30533s | you always used to be able to do |
| 30535s | when you know sword and board and all |
| 30536s | these various things double ranker being |
| 30538s | in every list basically and that was |
| 30541s | kind of a different animal had lord |
| 30542s | barov in there as well being able to |
| 30544s | clear up early boards all laid storm |
| 30546s | even yeah blade storm yeah lots of early |
| 30548s | powerful removal tools these days not so |
| 30551s | much |
| 30552s | the removal is mid-rangey as weird of a |
| 30556s | way that to describe it as it is but you |
| 30558s | know two card combos with gaining armor |
| 30560s | plus shield shatter brawl you know these |
| 30562s | are all generally sort of mid game |
| 30564s | removals so if you go one two three or |
| 30567s | one buff buff in the case of face hunter |
| 30570s | quite often a lot of the time that's a |
| 30572s | lot of damage that you can push out |
| 30573s | really quickly um and the only real way |
| 30576s | that control warrior has to like |
| 30578s | aggressively tempo swing against that |
| 30579s | early is with the nixie and drake and if |
| 30581s | you're playing face hunter you're doing |
| 30583s | a pretty good job of keeping onyxia and |
| 30585s | drake potential under control because |
| 30587s | it's unlikely that warrior is going to |
| 30589s | be stacking a bunch of armor against you |
| 30590s | in the early game yeah it would almost |
| 30592s | just have to be um |
| 30594s | frozen buckler shield chatter on like |
| 30597s | turn two or three maybe right even just |
| 30599s | to kill a minion because without shield |
| 30601s | slams and a way to gain the armor um it |
| 30605s | would be very very difficult indeed to |
| 30607s | clean that up so as you've noticed we're |
| 30609s | not in the game yet cursed is just uh |
| 30610s | coming back now obviously he did |
| 30612s | no blame there for needing a bit of a |
| 30614s | break before the semi-finals and finals |
| 30616s | of an interview |
| 30618s | he's done like 35 minutes work in the |
| 30620s | entirety that is true |
| 30622s | he's probably minute for minute played |
| 30624s | less hearthstone than |
| 30626s | almost every player here right now so |
| 30629s | that is a very good point but you can |
| 30630s | bring it up with him and not me |
| 30633s | but with this warrior do you think |
| 30635s | it is the warrior for msbc that's the |
| 30638s | most important deck for him to get a win |
| 30640s | with in this in this matchup or do you |
| 30643s | think that's there's potential that the |
| 30644s | mage has more of a weakness here |
| 30647s | yeah i think it depends on how you want |
| 30649s | to phrase that like i would expect the |
| 30651s | warrior to get a win somewhere in |
| 30654s | this match-up for face-off however if it |
| 30657s | starts to struggle to do so that could |
| 30659s | be really detrimental to the series as a |
| 30661s | whole for him so in that sense yes it is |
| 30663s | very important for the warrior to get a |
| 30664s | win and get a win quickly um but i do |
| 30667s | expect for example yes the naga ping |
| 30669s | mage to probably have a little bit more |
| 30671s | of an early weakness um to these just |
| 30674s | high progressive strategies that uh |
| 30676s | cursed is going for we saw the struggles |
| 30678s | of orange for example with the more |
| 30679s | streamlined version of the deck that |
| 30681s | he's playing just to stand up against |
| 30683s | all the early damage that can come out |
| 30685s | from the likes of demon hunter and face |
| 30687s | hunter so we shall see we are into the |
| 30689s | game cursed has returned and msbc finds |
| 30693s | that from the depths in the opening hand |
| 30695s | which is a going to be a fantastic |
| 30698s | improvement to his chances of winning |
| 30700s | this game i'm sure cursed very much deep |
| 30702s | in the tank here looking for mulligan |
| 30704s | options naga's pride i suppose is a |
| 30708s | maybe keep here if you are able to |
| 30710s | activate some of those uh powerful |
| 30711s | synergies but honestly on the play |
| 30715s | i'm very tempted just to go full mulling |
| 30717s | for a one drop here yeah naga's pride |
| 30720s | i've seen it get great work done but in |
| 30722s | my experience playing there not not this |
| 30724s | deck but similar it it feels so it's |
| 30727s | more of like just a a bonus later on as |
| 30730s | opposed to a planned on curve because if |
| 30732s | it was a planned on curve you'd play as |
| 30735s | many low-cost naga as possible right |
| 30737s | whereas i will just triple check before |
| 30739s | i sound stupid but there's only like one |
| 30742s | i guess three total with the legendary |
| 30744s | like two drop nagas and if you were that |
| 30747s | bothered about the uh the three drop you |
| 30749s | would play the additional two drops that |
| 30750s | are available in the game right now so |
| 30752s | yeah i do like the full mulligan here |
| 30754s | curse going for something a little bit |
| 30756s | more aggressive |
| 30758s | all right trog not the greatest option |
| 30760s | i've ever seen but if you are expecting |
| 30763s | at least your opponent to want to go |
| 30764s | coin depths on this turn it is pretty |
| 30766s | powerful in regards to that as long as |
| 30768s | uh rancor doesn't rear its early is ugly |
| 30770s | head |
| 30772s | yeah and honestly not the best but |
| 30774s | better than nothing oh okay |
| 30778s | yep now there's a game |
| 30780s | it got significantly better yeah bonus |
| 30783s | here for msbc though is this is |
| 30785s | arguably a turn behind where it could be |
| 30788s | right obviously one drop on two two drop |
| 30790s | on three it's a little bit awkward and |
| 30792s | clunky and uh msbc is gonna use that |
| 30795s | coin to get outright as axelive can |
| 30797s | clean up the additional trog but still |
| 30800s | has the three five to deal with and at |
| 30802s | the moment |
| 30803s | and there's not really a great way to |
| 30804s | kill it |
| 30806s | oh and this is this is the the trick |
| 30808s | right and this is what i meant by i |
| 30810s | didn't really see naga's pride as a |
| 30813s | three drop i see as much more of it you |
| 30815s | know like four or five or six drop or |
| 30817s | something to help beef out the board |
| 30819s | will be yeah i think it's a better keep |
| 30820s | on the coin because it allows yes for |
| 30822s | the uh the the the coin two into two |
| 30825s | curve that way if you get the spell |
| 30827s | discount now but yeah on the play it's a |
| 30829s | little bit awkward i think |
| 30830s | and |
| 30831s | you're gazing into the future just a |
| 30833s | little bit here subtle with the |
| 30835s | terracotta terror coil being played |
| 30838s | i think cursed is likely to go for |
| 30840s | actual raw damage here with this double |
| 30843s | spell or do you think he's gonna go wide |
| 30846s | first off uh medium oof in response to |
| 30849s | those cards coming out on the other side |
| 30851s | there |
| 30852s | and secondly yeah i was just having that |
| 30854s | debate internally with myself right and |
| 30856s | i think if he finds this board sticking |
| 30858s | which he's going to here uh just the |
| 30860s | school teacher coming down which isn't |
| 30862s | going to interact with it on the other |
| 30863s | side i would be extremely tempted just |
| 30866s | to rip the double aim shot in this yeah |
| 30868s | and just be able to bank it i think if |
| 30870s | you weren't landing this seven even if |
| 30871s | you only got to land four or three if |
| 30874s | one of the minions got dealt with and |
| 30875s | the other lived i think maybe then you |
| 30877s | might be thinking more in terms of |
| 30879s | redevelopment but even then you know |
| 30881s | after the dredge i think the one thing |
| 30883s | that you fear more than anything else is |
| 30885s | the armageddon shield shatter combo so |
| 30887s | in this case i think damage might just |
| 30889s | be the order of the day |
| 30891s | yeah the double aim shot is simply a ton |
| 30895s | of damage |
| 30898s | and a significant amount of damage on |
| 30900s | the board as you say right seven just |
| 30902s | from the minions i think this is the |
| 30904s | time where you go face |
| 30906s | probably a little bit frustrating that |
| 30908s | trogg was the draw and not potentially a |
| 30910s | quick shot a weapon you know the harpoon |
| 30912s | just another form of guaranteed damage |
| 30916s | because i think if another damage spell |
| 30917s | was drawn curse would have already gone |
| 30920s | face and ended his turn by now because i |
| 30922s | think that's the moment you say okay |
| 30924s | let's go |
| 30929s | although bob nest arcane shot another |
| 30933s | draw next turn i still personally do |
| 30935s | like the double aim shot here and just |
| 30937s | jam it all to face |
| 30938s | yeah i mean i agree |
| 30940s | the the thing i agree with most here is |
| 30942s | the amount of time that curse took to |
| 30944s | make this decision because i do think it |
| 30946s | is incredibly close but |
| 30948s | oh boy oh boy is that a lot of damage on |
| 30952s | the other side the control warrior is |
| 30954s | down too five on turn five |
| 30959s | and the benefit here is like there is |
| 30962s | okay not worst case scenario because |
| 30964s | there's no shield chatter but there is |
| 30966s | frozen buckler and heavy plate |
| 30969s | yep if that exact combo wasn't there |
| 30972s | like cursed still has a minimum of six |
| 30974s | damage without even talking about that |
| 30977s | the draw we would even have next turn |
| 30979s | either so |
| 30981s | and assuming there would be a clear |
| 30983s | because right now |
| 30985s | if msbc goes full armor he will leave a |
| 30988s | four attack minion on the board unless |
| 30990s | i'm missing something |
| 30991s | yeah that's right and i was you know |
| 30994s | ever so slightly concerned about how |
| 30995s | juicy this trade was when i was |
| 30997s | considering the play on the previous |
| 30998s | term for cursed um but because you have |
| 31000s | barb nets in your hand that doesn't |
| 31002s | really matter either right the fact that |
| 31003s | they're if you do have to re-win board |
| 31006s | after this like say there is just |
| 31007s | massive armor game and the trade into |
| 31010s | the 3-5 |
| 31011s | that would feel kind of bad if you were |
| 31013s | expecting to have to then redevelop |
| 31016s | board and win the board that way in this |
| 31018s | case because barb nets exist it just |
| 31020s | doesn't really matter yeah i do like |
| 31021s | this play though he did at iceberg |
| 31023s | garrison which is going to deal one |
| 31024s | damage aoe |
| 31026s | for three turns and then just goes for |
| 31028s | the hero power and the armor as well |
| 31032s | does kill off his own board though which |
| 31033s | i guess is probably at this point a |
| 31035s | benefit because he'll probably be scared |
| 31037s | of piercing shots leaving two one health |
| 31039s | on the board so |
| 31040s | you know even though the self-clear |
| 31042s | doesn't look great at surface level it's |
| 31044s | definitely not as bad as it looks |
| 31050s | just briefly important to bring up there |
| 31052s | there is just the one renko in msbc's |
| 31056s | warrior i know we've seen some warriors |
| 31057s | actually run zero this weekend and the |
| 31059s | difference between zero and one is is |
| 31061s | pretty huge honestly |
| 31066s | this looks like he's gonna take it a |
| 31068s | little bit slower and play the truck out |
| 31070s | don't blame him as soon as he gets the |
| 31072s | face naga |
| 31074s | the spells he's been holding for now |
| 31076s | will just start adding up to so much |
| 31078s | additional damage |
| 31079s | yeah that is true |
| 31083s | it's health only |
| 31084s | for msbc right now but that |
| 31087s | is a huge huge pickup |
| 31092s | it doesn't matter how many trucks he |
| 31094s | makes with the pre with the other spells |
| 31096s | if he just heavy plates and clears the |
| 31097s | whole board anyway |
| 31102s | and now that is a double discounted rate |
| 31105s | boss onyxia |
| 31107s | media move has been downgraded to small |
| 31109s | luff because now the second time with a |
| 31111s | double discount later in the game that |
| 31113s | raid boss inix here is actually a |
| 31115s | phenomenal pickup for msbc here |
| 31122s | and known private off the top and turn |
| 31124s | seven |
| 31125s | not what you're looking for |
| 31126s | yep |
| 31128s | i |
| 31130s | wonder if cursed is thinking it may be |
| 31132s | time to at least play one of these |
| 31134s | spells for now he still he will have a |
| 31136s | lot of mana i'm just thinking of exactly |
| 31139s | piercing shot being quite expensive and |
| 31141s | if that stops you know if you have to |
| 31143s | play an extra turn of the game because |
| 31145s | you didn't use up these spells then you |
| 31147s | know you're going to be a little bit |
| 31148s | upset with that of course |
| 31151s | now there's the raid boss onyxia with |
| 31152s | the shield block there's then rakara for |
| 31155s | an additional 10 |
| 31157s | i think cursed |
| 31159s | i have just been stopped |
| 31166s | having just drawn rancour though |
| 31169s | i think he might just wait a turn for |
| 31171s | yeah in bostonixia from this point |
| 31173s | and then just go nixier into rancor on |
| 31175s | the same turn not only does that gain |
| 31177s | him infinity armor it also means that he |
| 31180s | removes all of those juicy piercing shot |
| 31182s | targets from the board at the same time |
| 31189s | quick shot looks like the most likely |
| 31192s | pickup there with two one cost spells |
| 31193s | from cursed it means you can guarantee |
| 31195s | the additional card draw next time in |
| 31197s | which case you dump your hand now right |
| 31200s | because you have full control on the |
| 31201s | following turn of dredging into anything |
| 31203s | that you want to pick up and then |
| 31205s | drawing it with the quick shot |
| 31206s | yeah biggest |
| 31208s | question about that would be the barrack |
| 31210s | code open i imagine right as the highest |
| 31212s | cost manager to give yourself more |
| 31214s | freedom so if he quick shots into |
| 31216s | barrack he can play it and still play |
| 31218s | something |
| 31221s | else yeah i think the nod from curse is |
| 31224s | suddenly his opponents on 24 |
| 31228s | well start chipping away again it's a |
| 31230s | long road ahead |
| 31236s | quick short into terror coil |
| 31238s | erica was like wait i saw that quick |
| 31240s | shot |
| 31246s | and uh yeah cursed has the expression |
| 31249s | and mannerisms of a player who is |
| 31251s | already looking at other deck lists to |
| 31253s | get his focused in uh different games in |
| 31256s | the series right now |
| 31257s | yeah and you see how close it was right |
| 31260s | like |
| 31261s | one actual health showing from msbc the |
| 31264s | rest armor of course is absolutely huge |
| 31266s | and gets off to a great start there's a |
| 31268s | win for the warrior job number one done |
| 31272s | for msbc and again |
| 31275s | this may be too presumptuous but demon |
| 31278s | hunter mage yes mage can struggle and |
| 31280s | that's probably what curse is staring at |
| 31282s | right now in his opponent's lineup and |
| 31285s | rightly or wrongly i i would assume the |
| 31288s | demon hunter will get a win like i |
| 31290s | assume demon hunter always gets a win |
| 31291s | right now |
| 31293s | yeah you would think so um of course |
| 31295s | just going all the way back to the bands |
| 31297s | and something a dynamic that we didn't |
| 31298s | really touch on in this which is i think |
| 31300s | a ton of cursed success throughout this |
| 31302s | tournament will have been coming from |
| 31304s | his win rate against druid in general |
| 31306s | right because of the lineup that he has |
| 31308s | i talked about this with gia in the |
| 31309s | semi-final how msbc just not bringing |
| 31312s | druid at all is unusual from what we've |
| 31314s | been seeing uh on stream largely playing |
| 31317s | that ball priest instead and then that |
| 31319s | ball priest kind of getting a ban |
| 31320s | because of the the nature of deck that |
| 31322s | cursed is playing and the suddenly |
| 31325s | zyrella and wild pyromancer and the |
| 31328s | large amount of healing is suddenly just |
| 31330s | the ticket for dealing with what curse |
| 31332s | is trying to do on the other side and so |
| 31334s | instead he's having to leave up another |
| 31336s | very good deck in the case of the demon |
| 31338s | hunter which uh tends to be the king of |
| 31341s | the aggro match-ups when it comes down |
| 31342s | to it still so i do think uh msbc kind |
| 31346s | of has cursed uh beat a little bit just |
| 31348s | in terms of raw lineups here and cursed |
| 31350s | is going to be up against it especially |
| 31352s | with that warrior getting out with the |
| 31353s | first attempt against the face hunter |
| 31355s | and we are jumping over now to that naga |
| 31358s | face aggro demon hunter from msbc as we |
| 31361s | will continue to decide what it's called |
| 31363s | and looking at it here it does very much |
| 31366s | look like what i would call the standard |
| 31368s | right now uh there is the viper in there |
| 31371s | that not everyone runs but i think the |
| 31373s | viper and even the man quick for me now |
| 31375s | subtle is being very quickly cemented as |
| 31378s | a standard pick |
| 31380s | yeah it's interesting that we've reached |
| 31381s | this point with uh quad card draw as |
| 31384s | well when i started playing this deck on |
| 31386s | day two or three of the expansion quite |
| 31388s | early on uh there was a list i believe |
| 31390s | that originally hit one rank one legend |
| 31392s | on the china server that i picked up uh |
| 31395s | that just had double need for greed as |
| 31397s | the card drawer in it which i quickly |
| 31399s | decided i didn't like and replaced with |
| 31402s | spectral sight um i never crossed my |
| 31404s | mind to just cut other cards and play |
| 31407s | all four of them but i do think that's a |
| 31408s | development that i am on board with as |
| 31410s | well i'm going down to one bone glaive |
| 31413s | generally to make room for that kind of |
| 31414s | stuff as well because it's a it's a card |
| 31416s | that is a little bit clunky overall um |
| 31418s | but still i think if you are going to |
| 31420s | find yourself in a position where that |
| 31422s | viper is the cart and you feel like you |
| 31423s | don't need it the card that goes |
| 31424s | straight back in is the second bone |
| 31426s | glaive at that point anyway because it's |
| 31428s | really not that far off being a two of |
| 31430s | in the deck to begin with so a big fan |
| 31432s | of this build of the deck just has |
| 31433s | enough gas to keep on going over time |
| 31435s | and even for an aggro deck it can still |
| 31438s | win even if you get a hand clogged with |
| 31440s | card drawer in the early game because |
| 31442s | your ability to just do explosive swing |
| 31444s | turns uh with ladies totheno for example |
| 31446s | or big multi-strike pufferfish kind of |
| 31448s | things right like it doesn't it's not |
| 31450s | the end of the world if you fall behind |
| 31452s | by drawing a bunch of cards and picking |
| 31454s | up resources so i do think a good amount |
| 31456s | of card during the deck does make sense |
| 31458s | however |
| 31460s | it is going to be going up against beast |
| 31461s | druid on the other side here which can |
| 31464s | present a few tricky problems for it to |
| 31466s | uh deal with uh this deck in particular |
| 31469s | from kurst though is different yet again |
| 31473s | from uh several of the other builds of |
| 31475s | aggro druid that we've been seeing |
| 31477s | throughout the tournament with the |
| 31479s | prides fury coming back in as opposed to |
| 31481s | the azure and gardens that we've seen in |
| 31483s | many of the other lists and most |
| 31485s | importantly the 15 to offs two oh yeah |
| 31489s | okay very clean list uh which you know |
| 31492s | when someone is making a 15 to off list |
| 31495s | and it's an aggro deck you have to |
| 31497s | respect it right because you know |
| 31499s | they've just gone these are the 15 most |
| 31501s | aggressive and best cards for the tech |
| 31503s | i'm putting them all in let's go no this |
| 31505s | tech nonsense here but we are going to |
| 31508s | get into a game it's also a |
| 31511s | 15-2 of aggro decks with six playable on |
| 31514s | one one drops in it as well which is i |
| 31517s | believe the chucky golden ratio for how |
| 31519s | many one drops you are supposed to have |
| 31521s | in your aggro deck these strictly |
| 31523s | correct number at all times yes |
| 31527s | here the double frost wolf kennel that |
| 31528s | he can coin into and it's gonna be |
| 31531s | pretty good because although there are |
| 31533s | ways for this aggro demon hunter to |
| 31535s | actually clear stealth minions with for |
| 31538s | example afl barrage and perfect timing |
| 31542s | still it will allow cursed over time to |
| 31544s | build up a board that claw fury adept |
| 31547s | can then really pile on the pressure |
| 31549s | with right |
| 31551s | yeah i believe so fel barrage is a nice |
| 31553s | draw for msbc to have picked up though |
| 31556s | because it's kind of rare that you won't |
| 31558s | be able to kill a trogg with that with |
| 31560s | the way this is going |
| 31562s | i think the big decision now is because |
| 31564s | of that draw whether this needs hero |
| 31566s | powering or not after this trade happens |
| 31568s | on the need for greed oh okay that's |
| 31570s | exciting |
| 31572s | kind of like equip pass |
| 31579s | what's your reasoning for that |
| 31581s | uh well the swing |
| 31583s | like |
| 31585s | i guess if he's equipped swings |
| 31588s | then he can actually just play the guard |
| 31590s | so i guess that actually makes sense to |
| 31591s | my stereotype i was mainly staring at |
| 31593s | curtrice and working out how many swings |
| 31596s | he realistically needs to be good |
| 31598s | against cursed minions right and it's |
| 31600s | not like you need seven fours against |
| 31602s | the average druid turn on six right so |
| 31605s | it was just did it could he have saved |
| 31606s | the weapon charge but i think now that |
| 31608s | with the treasure guard available this |
| 31610s | just fills out his curve a little bit |
| 31612s | nicer and now with the fell barrage |
| 31613s | though into these uh |
| 31615s | uh the trog and one of the taunts |
| 31618s | looking pretty clean here for msbc |
| 31620s | yeah and this is why i liked the swing a |
| 31623s | lot is because thorn growth uh centuries |
| 31625s | the threat of it exactly so you kind of |
| 31628s | remove that tiny there we're not tiny 33 |
| 31631s | scenario where uh |
| 31633s | you would be just duplicating trogs |
| 31634s | after the fell barrage goes off and now |
| 31636s | kirst found himself set back and yep |
| 31639s | frostwolf kennels does get a lot of work |
| 31641s | done but in the spot that cursed is in |
| 31643s | it's very very slow development are you |
| 31647s | joking |
| 31649s | the winds from curse there as well he |
| 31651s | was like well those were the exact pair |
| 31654s | of minions i did not want to see i did |
| 31657s | mention earlier that there are certain |
| 31659s | ways in which demon to can interact with |
| 31662s | stealth minions and we saw one of them |
| 31664s | with the fel barrage but being used to |
| 31666s | clear up a trogg that is the other one |
| 31668s | and curse is just like how am i supposed |
| 31670s | to fight back and i think honestly that |
| 31673s | might have looked like a weird uh uh |
| 31675s | concede but i i completely understand |
| 31678s | cursed her side there because he cannot |
| 31681s | fight back against double pufferfest |
| 31683s | plus everything else that is going to be |
| 31685s | played in the following turns wow |
| 31689s | uh yeah |
| 31690s | hello officer uh i'd like to report a |
| 31692s | mugging please i've just witnessed it in |
| 31694s | the street like hello you can't just do |
| 31697s | that to a person let alone having the |
| 31700s | the drekthar on four that's bad enough |
| 31702s | but hitting exactly double pufferfist to |
| 31704s | make a situation that your opponent can |
| 31706s | just never develop into their board |
| 31707s | again absolutely disgusting stuff and i |
| 31711s | guess you reap what you sow right and |
| 31713s | cursed may just be hoping that his uh |
| 31716s | his name is is not very appropriate |
| 31719s | right now because he is beginning to |
| 31722s | feel the other end of what it's like to |
| 31725s | lose a series in a matter of minutes as |
| 31728s | you know live by the sword die by the |
| 31729s | sword these decks can win in minutes but |
| 31731s | they can also show that they are losing |
| 31734s | in minutes |
| 31735s | yes i will tell you right now if before |
| 31737s | we started this series you told me oh |
| 31740s | it's gonna be another you know 15-minute |
| 31742s | series i would have been like yeah you |
| 31743s | know it could well be and and if it is |
| 31746s | it's msbc that wins i wouldn't be like |
| 31748s | surely not but it could happen right |
| 31751s | again we said that the mage is the |
| 31753s | potential weakness here with what's left |
| 31756s | over obviously the demon to being super |
| 31758s | strong but yes the mage could get |
| 31760s | steamrolled three times that's how the |
| 31762s | series could end but it is naga mage |
| 31765s | right it can pull out some pretty |
| 31766s | impressive turns and the second curse |
| 31769s | can't keep up which again let's pretend |
| 31772s | let's just assume it's against the face |
| 31774s | hunter list if faison has like a spell |
| 31776s | heavy start and doesn't really get going |
| 31778s | with a wider board of minions |
| 31780s | and then msbc pops off on turn four or |
| 31782s | five |
| 31784s | well face it doesn't deal with that |
| 31786s | unless they're literally setting up |
| 31788s | lethal right like they can't actually |
| 31790s | win trading board states when it's that |
| 31793s | wide so it's still very possible that |
| 31795s | msbc cleans this up nicely with a rapid |
| 31799s | 3-0 victory uh it's all on this uh ping |
| 31802s | slash naga mage |
| 31804s | yeah and you know we talk about you know |
| 31807s | the the the quicker smoother version |
| 31810s | being the pure naga uh straight up naga |
| 31812s | spell mage i guess whatever you want to |
| 31814s | do to uh to differentiate the two but |
| 31817s | honestly |
| 31818s | most of the cards that you need to have |
| 31821s | a massive |
| 31822s | turn five turn four with the coin huge |
| 31825s | pop-off turn to beat aggro they're still |
| 31827s | all in the deck they're all there |
| 31829s | there's no difference in that regard um |
| 31831s | it's just kind of some of the zero mana |
| 31833s | spells that i suppose you are missing |
| 31835s | that make the difference but you know |
| 31836s | the cheap nagas are still there the card |
| 31838s | drawer is still there you can still do |
| 31840s | very much the same thing and first flame |
| 31842s | i think is you know the biggest crucial |
| 31845s | inclusion that you have to have to |
| 31847s | really be able to fight back against |
| 31848s | these aggro boards early on and yep 100 |
| 31850s | that's in there as well so |
| 31852s | uh you can certainly see the merit and |
| 31854s | see some of the potential win condition |
| 31856s | for this naga ping mage still even |
| 31858s | though it is you know arguably a little |
| 31860s | bit slower than the version the orange |
| 31861s | and harbour garbage yeah i bring it to |
| 31863s | the tournament i think the biggest |
| 31865s | problem you've you've got a chance of |
| 31867s | running into in these kind of matchups |
| 31869s | is when you go for your pop-off turn you |
| 31872s | could draw a more dress you could draw a |
| 31874s | reckless apprentice or a brand you know |
| 31876s | something that doesn't strictly continue |
| 31878s | the the sort of rolling naga spell naga |
| 31881s | spell chant |
| 31883s | and that's the weakness it's not even |
| 31885s | necessarily oh you've cut some of the |
| 31887s | key cards or it can't do this it can't |
| 31888s | do that it's just sometimes your hand |
| 31891s | won't be full of only naga and spells |
| 31894s | which is what the other version you know |
| 31895s | does a little bit more consistently but |
| 31897s | we are getting into the game and we will |
| 31899s | no doubt quickly find out whether msbc |
| 31901s | has the ability to finish this up in a |
| 31904s | 3-0 win or whether cursed fight starts |
| 31907s | now |
| 31910s | and it's a pretty strong looking opener |
| 31913s | so far |
| 31914s | i'll go on one into gift on two he does |
| 31917s | have the option to go amalgam on two |
| 31918s | here if he wants to really aggressively |
| 31920s | fight for board and you know what i |
| 31922s | wouldn't hate it because the threat of |
| 31924s | battle worn vanguard even battleborn |
| 31926s | vanguard coin multi-strike is very real |
| 31929s | here and uh having that extra 2-3 on |
| 31932s | board will be very very nice to be able |
| 31934s | to at least contest the 2-2 body on the |
| 31936s | other side if it does come out yeah even |
| 31938s | to a lesser extent but even if the um |
| 31942s | treasure guard comes out right it lets |
| 31944s | you just punch through it fairly cleanly |
| 31947s | um as opposed to right after trade once |
| 31950s | and it's still there and then suddenly |
| 31951s | curse plays another minion or two and |
| 31954s | then you know the board starts getting a |
| 31955s | bit too wide this just gives msbc |
| 31958s | especially with the ruined orb in hand a |
| 31960s | way to actually say right i can keep you |
| 31963s | off board for probably one more turn at |
| 31965s | a minimum |
| 31970s | are we still tempo kings no okay we've |
| 31972s | given up on i was looking at the zola |
| 31973s | though i was looking at it |
| 31977s | okay reckless apprentice picked up no |
| 31979s | wildfire just yet though |
| 31982s | and now this battle war vanguard does |
| 31984s | get to come into play |
| 31986s | once again this is something that the |
| 31987s | zola could have been able to contest if |
| 31989s | it was played out for msbc he just go |
| 31992s | with card draw instead |
| 31993s | i don't mind |
| 31997s | boom okay |
| 31998s | funnily enough i |
| 32000s | i like the school teacher honestly oh |
| 32002s | really |
| 32004s | purely because |
| 32005s | reckless always clears the one ones at a |
| 32007s | minimum |
| 32008s | and then it's like let him fill up the |
| 32010s | board with one ones and then you just |
| 32012s | have first flame reckless done and you |
| 32015s | have the extra knowledge of what the |
| 32017s | nagaling does right maybe that's even |
| 32019s | better you know |
| 32022s | muting star just really aggressively |
| 32024s | trying to preserve health here i think |
| 32025s | for msbc as well |
| 32027s | just not letting any kind of basis of |
| 32029s | board state come down |
| 32032s | and now with that double bone glaive |
| 32034s | we're talking about this earlier there |
| 32035s | is a double bone glaiving curse list and |
| 32037s | now he is just going to have to start |
| 32038s | trying to ramp up the damage as |
| 32040s | aggressively as possible |
| 32042s | yeah one of the matchups as well that |
| 32044s | pufferfist isn't great in |
| 32047s | yeah the only excuse me the only benefit |
| 32049s | here for cursed if he did pick |
| 32051s | pufferfish was he has the other one so |
| 32053s | suddenly it's too damaged to everything |
| 32055s | from turn six onwards if he has a weapon |
| 32058s | equipped of course |
| 32061s | oh is this is he a colossal gamer he is |
| 32064s | okay i like this a lot i like this a lot |
| 32067s | because you know what |
| 32068s | he's defending a lot of his health like |
| 32070s | 25 health on turn five druids have died |
| 32073s | by now this tournament so really good |
| 32076s | job for msbc so far and |
| 32079s | most i'm going to go out there and say |
| 32081s | most colossal |
| 32083s | minions that you'll get off this horn |
| 32085s | actually |
| 32086s | will dominate the board right one way or |
| 32088s | another |
| 32090s | yeah i think the big deal though is |
| 32092s | whether you find one of the ones with |
| 32094s | taunts |
| 32095s | so you know shaman druid warrior for |
| 32098s | example or the priest |
| 32099s | or the priest one was gonna lead on to |
| 32102s | that but that is the one that you can at |
| 32104s | least theoretically play around for a |
| 32106s | turn or two at the very least but you |
| 32108s | are going to have to deal with it at |
| 32109s | some point |
| 32114s | is he the the trick with that is even |
| 32116s | though |
| 32116s | it forces the trade with minions oh |
| 32119s | don't play minions well the lifesteal |
| 32120s | guy still gets to attack yes like it's |
| 32123s | not like it doesn't if it said can't |
| 32125s | attack then yeah you could sort of mess |
| 32127s | around a little bit to try and stop it |
| 32129s | but it does and then it just becomes a |
| 32131s | silence priest minion |
| 32132s | wait |
| 32135s | and you've just got a weird one four on |
| 32136s | the down on the board |
| 32138s | yeah |
| 32140s | yeah ten and this is what i was talking |
| 32142s | about earlier on |
| 32143s | bone glaive it looks a bit simple but |
| 32146s | simply hitting your opponent in the face |
| 32147s | works oh |
| 32149s | no |
| 32151s | oh have i cursed this |
| 32154s | cursed |
| 32155s | oh |
| 32156s | and what |
| 32160s | he has to kill him but he'll take eight |
| 32162s | and there's still a queen azshara on the |
| 32164s | board like even though everyone you know |
| 32166s | knows it's about the treasures with this |
| 32168s | card it is a five five like it's still |
| 32171s | gonna beat him up |
| 32173s | it's so big |
| 32179s | how funny would it be is if the 1-4 like |
| 32182s | if your opponent had a weapon it forced |
| 32185s | the attack |
| 32188s | be great |
| 32190s | and cursed honestly subtle right now |
| 32194s | that was absolute worst case scenario |
| 32198s | even the druid colossal which would have |
| 32201s | been a pain because if the armor gained |
| 32203s | the taunt and so on would have been very |
| 32205s | annoying but an 8 10 with lifesteal and |
| 32208s | if you play a minion it just feeds the |
| 32211s | lifesteal as well after all this work |
| 32213s | cursed has done |
| 32215s | yeah i think painful i think this is the |
| 32218s | worst outcome and then shaman was the |
| 32221s | runner-up right because it's |
| 32223s | uh |
| 32224s | yeah it's it's is it three is it three |
| 32226s | or five two you've made me doubt it |
| 32228s | three sorry it's four minions three |
| 32230s | different apologies that's why i said |
| 32231s | quad instantly yeah it's three taunts |
| 32234s | that you can't just like plow through |
| 32235s | and then say job done right because you |
| 32237s | then leave an enormous problem left on |
| 32239s | the board on the other side so i'd say |
| 32240s | that was the second worst outcome but |
| 32242s | yeah this is for sure the monstrous uh |
| 32246s | problem to deal with |
| 32249s | first of course i'm gonna keep playing |
| 32251s | this out and you know what subtle |
| 32254s | weirdly enough i like this plan |
| 32256s | if he's just like i'm gonna try and |
| 32258s | outrace an eight health a turn because |
| 32262s | what else can he do |
| 32263s | it's oh wow |
| 32265s | you're sbc by the way set this up on the |
| 32268s | previous turn he was debating whether to |
| 32270s | go wildfire or ping with his remaining |
| 32272s | manner recognize that by going ping on |
| 32274s | that turn and then wildfire ping |
| 32277s | reckless apprentice on the follow-up he |
| 32279s | would potentially have exact lethals on |
| 32282s | the follow-up so he had that all set up |
| 32284s | while we were talking about random |
| 32286s | outcomes from the colossal horn but oh |
| 32289s | my goodness what a beating to receive |
| 32292s | when you have been the one doling it out |
| 32294s | up until this point to turn around and |
| 32297s | be given a taste of your own medicine |
| 32299s | and how fitting it is narratively for |
| 32302s | the european player to charge |
| 32304s | effortlessly through everyone else on |
| 32307s | route to a final and then suddenly to |
| 32310s | find out that those tricks don't work |
| 32312s | against the chinese representative once |
| 32314s | again |
| 32315s | what a performance in the masters tour |
| 32318s | by msbc and by the china region |
| 32321s | msbc has clearly come a long long way |
| 32324s | since he forgot to put a baku in his |
| 32326s | deck all those years ago yeah huge |
| 32329s | congratulations to msbc as you avoid the |
| 32332s | sunken city champion |
| 32335s | great performance a great lineup and for |
| 32337s | me at least an unexpected lineup getting |
| 32340s | the work done and he was finally the |
| 32343s | player to put a stop to curse domination |
| 32347s | in a in you know good fashion as well |
| 32350s | with a very swift 3-0 victory for |
| 32353s | himself what a win and i think i said |
| 32356s | all the way the start of the day that |
| 32359s | msbc was no doubt feeling the pressure |
| 32362s | as the the sole representative from |
| 32364s | china to make it to top 16 but he has |
| 32367s | done his job and won the whole thing so |
| 32369s | congratulations |
| 32370s | once again and of course a |
| 32372s | congratulations to cursed i think his |
| 32374s | lineup and his matches especially were |
| 32377s | extremely entertaining and uh he's doing |
| 32380s | a great job to finish second place but |
| 32382s | yeah msbc what a tournament what a way |
| 32384s | to finish subtle |
| 32386s | yeah and you know again i i will echo |
| 32388s | your sentiment shout out to kirsten this |
| 32390s | one you know larinda was talking about |
| 32392s | this a little bit before i think you |
| 32394s | were on the cast with him on the time |
| 32396s | but cursed is from a certain era of |
| 32398s | european hearthstone uh where we |
| 32401s | actually remember playing tournaments |
| 32403s | against right from from way back in the |
| 32405s | day i remember just like you know weekly |
| 32408s | dfinity cash cups where the likes of you |
| 32410s | know crane indoor and the h2k people |
| 32413s | that are the conspiracy people cursed |
| 32414s | was thrown in there as well a few other |
| 32416s | greek representatives thrown in there |
| 32418s | and that's where you know i really like |
| 32420s | cut my teeth and started to realize oh |
| 32421s | okay i'm actually getting kind of good |
| 32423s | at this like i'm playing weekly |
| 32425s | tournaments and getting top fours and |
| 32426s | top eights against some of the biggest |
| 32427s | names in europe um and cursed and death |
| 32430s | lore for example some of the early reps |
| 32432s | from from the greek community uh were |
| 32434s | really some of the players that you know |
| 32436s | it's really awkward because that's the |
| 32438s | place i learned i wasn't good |
| 32497s | heavily too so again final |
| 32500s | congratulations to msbc that means just |
| 32502s | suddenly we're at the end of this |
| 32504s | masters tour the first in the new |
| 32506s | rotation and expansion uh we all hope |
| 32509s | you enjoyed watching it shout out to |
| 32510s | production shout out to you lot for |
| 32512s | watching and uh yeah from us thanks a |
| 32515s | lot again for watching and we will see |
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| 32688s | what the heck |
| 32690s | that is incredible that's every minute |
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| 32698s | the bless that's just lethal right |
| 32701s | bless the popeyoses like he's still |
| 32703s | going oh i can't imagine this doesn't |
| 32705s | end up being lethal at some point |
| 32708s | it's just dead on turn five just he just |
| 32710s | played a rod and then fell over |
| 32713s | which he got to do this entire game |
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