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974s | I'm gonna call it too soon but yeah |
976s | there we go that's the big moment there |
978s | for Abu gabu he can't believe you're |
980s | still counting comes back takes the |
983s | Victory and Habu gabu is your summer |
987s | champion |
1001s | hello everybody and welcome back to |
1003s | another day of the Fall Championship my |
1005s | name is TJ I'm joined by saddle to kick |
1009s | off this show subtle how you doing today |
1011s | buddy you're looking nice and rested |
1013s | there you're looking good |
1016s | is is that supposed to be a reference to |
1018s | me over sleeping and missing the cool |
1020s | time but no I'm here I'm ready to go TJ |
1022s | oh you really you really do it's uh just |
1024s | an honest to genuine subtle you uh |
1028s | you're looking chipper today you're |
1029s | looking like you're ready to cast some |
1030s | Hearthstone thanks TJ it might have |
1032s | something to do that I get to open the |
1034s | show with my absolute favorite person in |
1036s | the entire world TJ Sanders and it might |
1039s | also have something to do with the match |
1041s | up that we're casting and it might also |
1043s | have something to do with how awesome |
1045s | yesterday was with a couple of fantastic |
1047s | groups that we pretty much plowed our |
1049s | way through with some uh incredibly |
1051s | turbulent games and series that we were |
1053s | watching |
1054s | yeah it was um uh quite the day of |
1057s | action yesterday it felt like a at least |
1060s | group a |
1062s | um there was no real back and forth |
1064s | going on it was just |
1066s | a bunch of hearthstone players just |
1068s | completely rolled in some series and uh |
1071s | I guess that's just the nature of the |
1073s | metagame right now right it feels like |
1074s | uh we have these really strong and |
1077s | refined Decks that when they get rolling |
1079s | they're hard to stop |
1081s | um but I'm curious to see how today's |
1083s | gonna play out because we do have some |
1084s | yeah you know some different lineups uh |
1087s | uh being mixed in uh to the fold so |
1092s | um we'll get into that a little bit |
1093s | later but for now oh saddle oh look at |
1095s | this Conquest that's what we're going to |
1098s | be playing today Conquest |
1100s | unbelievable straight out of left field |
1102s | who would have thought it competitive |
1104s | Hearthstone going with a conquest format |
1106s | uh yeah if you haven't seen it before if |
1109s | you have been living under a rock for |
1110s | the last six years or so of competitive |
1112s | Hearthstone since the last hero standing |
1114s | switch players bring four decks each of |
1117s | those decks have to be eliminated |
1118s | essentially uh you have to defeat your |
1121s | opponent's decks one by one you can't |
1123s | wait oh dang or not |
1124s | I just realized the first time in |
1127s | history we actually decide to explain |
1128s | conquest and say everyone doesn't know |
1131s | who it is what it is and I actually get |
1133s | it completely wrong it's the exact |
1134s | opposite of that you have to win with |
1136s | each of your individuals out of the |
1139s | series |
1140s | it's tough It's not all you know it's |
1143s | you know if we'd be doing this for like |
1145s | 15 years I don't know I know we'll be |
1147s | doing it for like six so understandable |
1150s | yeah understandable |
1152s | um |
1154s | oh |
1156s | I actually didn't see this yesterday |
1157s | it's really cool it's been updated uh it |
1159s | looks very Regal doesn't it this prize |
1161s | pool graphic uh showing all these |
1163s | numbers in this money doesn't it look |
1165s | Regal to you it does it looks beautiful |
1167s | and what else looks beautiful is those |
1170s | little little blue Chevrons featured on |
1172s | the graphic that shows that players will |
1175s | be going through to the world |
1176s | championship which is not only where the |
1178s | big money is like even outside of that |
1180s | prize pool that's shown that |
1182s | qualification to the World Championships |
1184s | will put a whole bunch of extra money in |
1186s | your pocket just for being there but |
1188s | more so than that it's about the |
1189s | prestige it's about a Year's work |
1191s | culminating at this point you know we |
1194s | saw players you know highs and lows |
1196s | yesterday as we saw players securing |
1199s | their chance to now play for a spot in |
1200s | the world championships but also players |
1203s | like Fury Hunter for example who have |
1205s | been so so close throughout the year on |
1208s | multiple occasions and now are not |
1210s | making it to the World Championship we |
1212s | have a very similar story to that today |
1214s | particularly with bunny Hopper who has |
1216s | been in a very similar spot to Fury |
1218s | throughout the year one of the nearly |
1219s | men of world championship qualification |
1221s | and here we do see some of Fury Hunters |
1224s | run through yesterday |
1225s | yeah uh xiaobai uh in Fury Hunter faced |
1229s | off twice |
1231s | uh yesterday and uh xiaobai was able to |
1234s | able to get the the better that matchup |
1237s | um on both sides right uh three two and |
1239s | then three one so uh Beer Hunter has run |
1242s | has come to an end but uh heck of a year |
1245s | still |
1246s | shouldn't be too upset tweeted earlier |
1248s | you know but |
1250s | um we had habugabu who just rocked up |
1254s | 3-0 twice in about an hour and five |
1258s | minutes that's left yep it was a very |
1262s | straightforward day's work he uh he |
1266s | turned up he queued Warrior he destroyed |
1268s | everyone he left quite literally as you |
1270s | can tell he came back and ruined the bit |
1271s | what a shame uh he did just absolutely |
1274s | destroy his two match-ups and then it |
1276s | came down to the two player or two of |
1279s | the players that were defeated earlier |
1280s | in the day Fury Hunter and plastic and |
1283s | plastic boy did he have a day of it just |
1286s | really could not get anything running |
1288s | which left us in group a in this |
1290s | position with jiaobai and fury hunter in |
1292s | the rematch and once again it was |
1294s | xiaobai that was able to get it and |
1296s | there you can see it yeah a little wave |
1298s | goodbye from Fury but you can see on his |
1300s | face portraying the true emotions of |
1303s | just how devastating this can be when |
1304s | you get this close in Fury's case |
1306s | multiple times to the world |
1308s | championships and you don't make him |
1310s | yeah it's uh it's rough it's rough but |
1314s | um you know and it's always next year |
1316s | right we'll see if uh Fury Hunter is a |
1319s | player who seems like you know even |
1320s | though it has it's motivated by that |
1323s | competitive Drive still player that |
1326s | seems to just enjoy the game and enjoy |
1327s | the enjoy competing and if he didn't |
1329s | then why he's playing so many goth star |
1332s | and our Stone tournaments you know so uh |
1336s | we'll see and then of course we had uh |
1338s | group b or group two |
1340s | um no it's B it's B in some places this |
1343s | group dude it's a number B TJ I believe |
1345s | yeah uh group number B |
1347s | um we had Glory uh to looking for third |
1351s | world championship in a row and not only |
1353s | that but if he does qualify a world |
1355s | championship looking for third world |
1357s | championship finals in a row which would |
1359s | be just insane insane um was able to |
1362s | come out of the group in uh in first |
1365s | place a nice smooth little Victory uh |
1368s | and then uh pocket train made a splash |
1371s | right yeah pretty big splash |
1374s | and by splash I mean brought boar priest |
1377s | and got Bodied |
1380s | and then uh tonsoku is a player that |
1384s | ended up moving on so both the Japanese |
1385s | representatives from Group B being the |
1387s | players to move on to the quarterfinals |
1388s | on Sunday |
1390s | yeah poke ended up tweeting out but he |
1392s | kind of did miss the meta he was |
1394s | confident in his lineup when he |
1395s | initially posted it saying yeah go and |
1397s | try and Target this and as he then said |
1399s | later turns out they did he was |
1401s | expecting |
1403s | he was expecting a bit more control to |
1406s | counter the the aggro in his words that |
1409s | didn't really happen the only countering |
1411s | that really happened was countering |
1412s | pocket trains specifically uh for gaboon |
1416s | who really went hard on just the idea of |
1418s | trying to beat pocket train twice in the |
1420s | group |
1421s | um but you can see now the results we |
1423s | ended up with Habu gabu and xiaobai |
1425s | making it out of group a as mentioned |
1428s | you would be forgiven for forgetting |
1430s | that Abu Dhabi was the player that made |
1431s | it out because he was only on camera for |
1433s | about 50 minutes to an hour in total and |
1435s | xiaobai had the slightly grindier run |
1438s | through uh picking up a couple of wins |
1439s | over Fury Hunter to secure his spot yeah |
1443s | yeah I forgot I forgot that Abu God we |
1446s | even played more than one game of |
1447s | hearthstone yesterday that's how quick |
1450s | it was |
1451s | um and then uh from Group B like we said |
1454s | we had Gloria and tonsoku as the uh the |
1457s | two players to move on tonsoku |
1459s | he's just |
1464s | you just can't help but roofer tonsoku I |
1467s | don't know I don't care who you are |
1469s | I don't care where you're from I don't |
1471s | care |
1472s | like what kind of decks you like to play |
1475s | in Hearthstone |
1476s | onsoku's just |
1479s | the best |
1481s | and this has nothing to do with him once |
1485s | saying that you were his favorite caster |
1487s | and getting you to sign autographs for |
1489s | him and all that kind of stuff right I |
1491s | mean purely unbiased opinion that's a |
1494s | regular occurrence so uh you know |
1497s | I had that happen every day |
1499s | actually all 16 players in this |
1501s | tournament have done that at some point |
1503s | actually yeah no I forgot you're |
1504s | absolutely right TJ my bad yeah so yeah |
1507s | you know it's that's not the special |
1509s | part it's just tatsoku |
1511s | himself is the the special part |
1514s | um and for some reason I'm always the |
1516s | person that gets to like interview him |
1517s | after he wins stuff or before he plays |
1520s | and stuff it's just tradition throughout |
1522s | history hearthstone's history |
1526s | and uh so it's just it's just cool just |
1528s | cool to see him uh continue to have |
1530s | success after all this time all this |
1532s | time but we'll see it's uh just maybe to |
1534s | the quarterfinals still got a another |
1537s | match on Sunday to win in order to |
1540s | actually make it through but just a very |
1543s | happy-go-lucky kind of individual |
1546s | yeah not only is tansoku getting |
1549s | continued success but at the very very |
1550s | highest level APAC is getting continued |
1552s | success of course like when it comes to |
1555s | the end of the road the world |
1556s | championships in this case the seasonal |
1558s | championships it does seem that like the |
1559s | very the very cream of the crop of the |
1562s | APAC field does rise to the top uh more |
1565s | often than not in recent memory it does |
1567s | seem like depth of field is stronger in |
1570s | Europe and China but it really does seem |
1572s | like you know the top five top 10 |
1574s | players in the APAC region particularly |
1576s | in Japan are right up there with |
1579s | everyone else the very top players in |
1581s | the world you'll notice TJ America's not |
1584s | being mentioned in that breakdown |
1587s | yeah they're terrible |
1592s | oh you said it yeah I did |
1595s | um I'm allowed to |
1598s | uh because they're they're mine you know |
1600s | yeah we're allowed to rib on your family |
1603s | a little bit that's right |
1604s | um and they're they're all my family |
1607s | um you can't choose your family |
1610s | okay here we go Group C this is uh one |
1614s | of my favorite actually it is my |
1616s | favorite group out of all these groups |
1617s | just because of the level of Personality |
1619s | that exists within the group |
1623s | um and a lot of uh different ones as |
1626s | well we have bunny Hopper who's just one |
1628s | of the all-time greats in competitive |
1630s | Hearthstone uh you know just continued |
1634s | success year after year |
1636s | uh he's a doctor whatever you know we've |
1639s | talked about that so many times Dr bunny |
1641s | Hopper you know |
1643s | um and then we have two Casters in this |
1647s | group uh or two casting personalities |
1650s | stream personality love story when I was |
1651s | Jews so uh lovestorm is just my favorite |
1653s | Hearthstone player ah okay uh I've he's |
1657s | in my top three okay killing all day |
1659s | tonsoku and love storm top three no |
1662s | particular order it changes day to day |
1663s | week to week month to month but those |
1666s | are my favorites love storm I'm wearing |
1667s | my space cat shirt today in private love |
1670s | storm because that's you know my space |
1671s | catcher is just looks like a storm of |
1673s | Love uh so I'm just hoping that he gives |
1677s | us a show as he always does |
1678s | all cats are a storm of love TJ whether |
1681s | or not they're from space you you should |
1683s | know this by now but yeah I'm I'm |
1685s | wondering whether TJ just lacks object |
1687s | permanence like whichever player is on |
1689s | the screen in front of him is his new |
1691s | favorite player at this point that seems |
1692s | to be where we're going I can't wait to |
1694s | find out who his new favorite player in |
1695s | the world is once we get to group number |
1697s | D uh but for now I suppose it is going |
1700s | to be love star there we go so who's |
1702s | your favorite player in the world now TJ |
1703s | love storm okay |
1708s | still love storm yeah |
1710s | um but this is a a a group of maybe of |
1714s | lesser known players |
1716s | um even though spring uh is you know one |
1718s | of the uh biggest up-and-comers in in |
1722s | China xmg is probably the most known |
1725s | player in this group right uh because |
1727s | xmg has been around for a little while |
1729s | but uh Gregorius and ustia are uh you |
1732s | know relatively new in terms of like how |
1735s | recently they've had success so |
1737s | um Group D is kind of the the group of |
1739s | the the the dark horses in terms of uh |
1742s | fall Championship I would say |
1744s | yeah I think I would agree with that but |
1746s | it does also have some more very |
1748s | off-the-wall lineups coming into the |
1750s | field I do think throughout the first |
1752s | day lineups were really the biggest |
1754s | talking point partly because of how much |
1756s | of a blowout so many of the series were |
1758s | where people just kind of got got in the |
1760s | preparation phase we talked about that |
1763s | um particularly with uh pocket train but |
1766s | also how bugaboo's lineup um with the |
1768s | the aggro and rage Warrior that he had |
1770s | was very very effective against the |
1772s | curse locks that we saw from everyone |
1773s | else so it does feel like this is a |
1777s | tournament so far where we've seen the |
1778s | weight of preparation just be even more |
1781s | important than we are used to seeing and |
1783s | I wonder with some of the lineups that |
1784s | we have in group D which we'll dig into |
1786s | later once we move towards it whether |
1788s | that will continue to be the case but uh |
1791s | TJ and myself and for the first half of |
1792s | the day in general we will be focusing |
1795s | in on that group C kicking things off as |
1797s | mentioned with bunny Hopper versus |
1798s | lovestorm which should be a phenomenal |
1801s | way to start your day oh yeah a half and |
1805s | here we go |
1807s | kicking things off |
1809s | um taking a look at the lineups in this |
1811s | group they do differ |
1813s | a little bit from what we saw yesterday |
1815s | excuse me but |
1817s | um the sort of strategy is sort of the |
1821s | same I feel like we have more |
1823s | um Thief Rogues than the temple Rogues |
1826s | which yesterday in both groups we |
1828s | actually saw a surprising amount of |
1830s | temper Rogue with sort of where it's |
1832s | positioned in The Meta obviously this is |
1834s | Conquest it's not latter so things |
1835s | differ you're trying to build a cohesive |
1837s | lineup but not just |
1839s | singularly strong decks |
1842s | um but I I put a lot of faith in that |
1846s | deep Rogue honestly just because it |
1847s | gives you a lot of flexibility and game |
1849s | plan |
1850s | um and we saw Glory do incredibly well |
1853s | with it yesterday going 2-0 in the group |
1856s | I'm curious if that's going to be the |
1857s | case today and I say that because a |
1859s | bunny Hopper has it in his lineup and it |
1862s | is going to be left up in the series and |
1863s | another one subtle that I don't really |
1865s | know how to evaluate fully I've I |
1868s | literally since the deck got nerfed |
1871s | originally with the snowfall Guardian |
1873s | nerve yeah I still haven't been able to |
1875s | evalue it all this time is the control |
1877s | Shaman yeah I'm with you I'm usually you |
1880s | know pretty question mark yeah pretty |
1882s | good at establishing where Dex will be |
1884s | like how hard Nerfs will get hit whether |
1886s | Dex is still hanging around I thought |
1887s | the snowfall Guardian Nerf would drop |
1890s | Shaman out of contention for quite some |
1892s | time but it just did not happen |
1895s | furthermore like cutting the card and |
1897s | continuing to power on forward is |
1899s | something that I wasn't expecting but |
1901s | one thing that I was expecting was to |
1903s | see bunny Hopper right back at the top |
1905s | of the field again because you look at |
1907s | that resume that is Elite TJ like that |
1910s | is the resume of someone who has been |
1912s | one of the best players in the world not |
1914s | for a number of years but for for a |
1917s | amount of time that is over half a |
1918s | decade at this point bunny Hopper was |
1921s | one of the very first players to qualify |
1925s | to a major championships through a truly |
1927s | open system right you were there you |
1928s | remember all of this happening we had |
1930s | all of our known streamers that we |
1932s | thought were good players and then we |
1934s | switched to a fully open system and the |
1936s | names who qualified for I believe winter |
1938s | Championship Europe which was the first |
1940s | one that we actually went through the |
1942s | system we hadn't heard of any of them |
1945s | because it turns out the people that we |
1947s | were paying lots of money to appear on |
1949s | camera because people liked them weren't |
1951s | actually the best Hearthstone players |
1952s | and Bunny Hopper instead was the best |
1955s | Hearthstone player not quite he didn't |
1956s | end up winning everything but he was in |
1958s | the conversation and that was eight nine |
1961s | years ago at this point no hang on 87 |
1964s | years ago seven years ago seven years |
1966s | ago yeah 15 beginning of 2015 so right |
1969s | and it's been half years ago yeah and |
1971s | he's been around since then being |
1973s | successful winning winning championship |
1976s | and continuing through to the the the |
1978s | tour stop system the grand Masters |
1980s | system being successful in all of them |
1982s | and even just this year he's having a |
1985s | fantastic year in terms of our broadcast |
1987s | events but also as you saw there from |
1989s | lorinda's provided stats being |
1991s | incredibly successful in the China |
1994s | league as well which is one of the most |
1996s | deeply stacked competitive tournaments |
1998s | in the world not the most recent season |
2000s | but the season before that bunny Hopper |
2002s | absolutely destroyed the league stage of |
2005s | that tournament yeah it's it's uh uh |
2009s | hard to |
2010s | overstate the |
2013s | um the impact that bunny Hoppers had in |
2015s | the competitive scene |
2016s | as well as love storms |
2018s | um because he came in with a storm of |
2022s | love |
2024s | a mural of love yes |
2028s | plastered on his ceiling |
2031s | um painting |
2032s | um and even though it hasn't had quite |
2036s | as many like master store appearances |
2037s | still up there in win rate Rivals bunny |
2040s | Hopper slightly less 62-35 still very |
2043s | impressive |
2044s | uh is a Caster custom Hearthstone uh in |
2046s | China and also lovestorm does it with |
2048s | his own style right he won uh Masters |
2052s | Tour a nixia's lair with like brute |
2054s | Demon Hunter |
2056s | which was just uh crazy to watch I'm |
2059s | pretty sure he didn't even lose a single |
2061s | match uh during his run and winning |
2063s | matches toward Dixie's lair and he just |
2067s | always has that that slight flare right |
2069s | you look at his line if you're like okay |
2070s | normal deck normal deck got a pretty |
2072s | normal deck and then what |
2075s | um and even though his what in this one |
2077s | is the uh uh the boar priest which we |
2081s | saw have very little success for pocket |
2084s | train in in pocket trains group |
2086s | yesterday it's still one of those decks |
2088s | where if you bring it you gotta be |
2089s | really confident in it and uh love |
2092s | Storm's a player that I don't think |
2093s | shies away from any of these Decks that |
2096s | are a little bit more difficult |
2098s | to Pilot yeah and I think what's even |
2101s | more impressive about that is sometimes |
2103s | you'll see someone have success in a |
2104s | tournament with an off-the-wall lineup |
2106s | as you were saying and it will just be a |
2108s | meta call right it'll be a counter |
2110s | lineup |
2111s | um it will snipe a particularly common |
2112s | deck that they're expecting to see or |
2115s | it'll just happen and you know they run |
2116s | hard they get lucky they have high |
2118s | variance decks and it goes well or |
2119s | whatever when love storm did it |
2121s | particularly in that Masters Tour win |
2123s | his lineup then became the meta we went |
2126s | into Grand Masters very rapidly after |
2128s | that Masters Tour and many of the |
2130s | players in Grand masters from the |
2132s | Western scene looked at that lineup and |
2134s | went oh that's just the lineup now like |
2136s | I either have to bring that line up or |
2138s | work out how to counter that lineup |
2140s | because that was actually just better |
2141s | than all of the things that we were |
2143s | doing blies in particular I think just |
2144s | showed up playing love Storm's exact |
2147s | lineup for that next tournament I |
2149s | believe uh took down a weekly win with |
2151s | it in Grand Masters as well so this is a |
2154s | person who is having a a real impact on |
2157s | the meta cross region as well so you |
2160s | know love storm absolutely might not be |
2162s | my favorite player in the world TJ I'm |
2164s | not quite on your level but certainly |
2166s | someone that I've enjoyed watching |
2167s | enormously over the course of this year |
2170s | yeah there's a if there's two types of |
2173s | players in competitive Hearthstone |
2175s | uh those who lead those who follow |
2178s | and uh love star love storm is uh one of |
2182s | the ones who leads in terms of you know |
2186s | breaking the metagame trying new things |
2190s | there he is in all of his glory |
2193s | oh |
2194s | unfortunately no longer with the upward |
2196s | camera angle |
2198s | reveals the love storm on the ceiling |
2200s | but unfortunately ah bummer oh well we |
2204s | gotta we got a little bit of uh |
2206s | of law of action with the murals and the |
2209s | in the background whatever those are |
2211s | looks like lollipops |
2215s | that sounds right definitely not flowers |
2220s | no well you know flowers and lollipops |
2222s | look pretty similar to be honest |
2225s | um |
2226s | proteins to be a little bit careful |
2227s | which of them you put in your mouth |
2230s | um no no okay I see you not if you're my |
2234s | kids |
2237s | they couldn't even tell the difference |
2240s | thank you |
2241s | all right |
2242s | um defrogue |
2244s | one of my favorite decks in the metagame |
2247s | right now just because every game is |
2249s | different I I don't think you could |
2252s | even spot like a similar play pattern |
2255s | across like two different games yeah of |
2258s | thief Rogue even if you gave it like 100 |
2259s | game sample size uh there's just so much |
2262s | that you can do but also so much |
2266s | so many turns where you have to like |
2268s | pivot and and you know make it be |
2271s | creative right with your uh with your |
2273s | game plan so |
2275s | um we see some players bring the sketchy |
2278s | stranger variation in some players |
2281s | um uh without it right uh the sketchy |
2284s | stranger obviously it doesn't break your |
2286s | Maestro disguise because it's yup |
2288s | control and uh it just gives you you |
2291s | know right up extra card that you can |
2294s | get from Contraband stash because it's |
2295s | not like perjury where you don't get the |
2297s | actual secret that you get from perjury |
2299s | uh with sketchy stranger you do so |
2306s | a buddy now having picked up uh jackpot |
2309s | and Contraband stash and of course that |
2311s | objection found from The Stranger as |
2313s | well does have as you were saying |
2315s | different play patterns for the deck but |
2316s | this is one of the more conventional |
2318s | ones I would say |
2325s | um |
2326s | those are not it |
2335s | I was thinking |
2337s | it's definitely not cowardly grunt uh |
2340s | mounted Raptor would let bunny Hopper |
2342s | get something else on the board this |
2343s | turn or maybe just jackpot next to this |
2346s | turn and then go for like a dagger a |
2348s | plus mounted Raptor next turn but let's |
2350s | go for the United cycle that could deal |
2352s | with like a a a relic |
2356s | vaulted relic of phantasms that was a |
2360s | very convoluted way to say that a |
2363s | doubled up relic of phantasms yeah |
2366s | vaulted relic of phantasms there you go |
2368s | yeah nailed it the relic of phantasms |
2372s | does a backflip over a pommel horse and |
2374s | lands on the board and you'll be able to |
2376s | deal with it yeah |
2378s | four full revolutions |
2383s | I think the plan for Bonnie he went for |
2384s | prep right before the Discover which I |
2387s | think he was looking for the ability to |
2389s | play something large-ish on the board if |
2392s | he was able to hit and then he had the |
2393s | jackpot as a backup to spend that manner |
2395s | if he wanted to did kind of Miss on |
2398s | those options like rear mounted Raptor |
2399s | was playable but I don't think really |
2401s | the the business that Bonnie was in in |
2403s | terms of wanting to gain Tempo quickly |
2404s | so just ripped the jackpot and as our |
2406s | resident Thief Rogue expert TJ what do |
2409s | you make of these uh jackpot outcomes |
2412s | uh terrible yeah there they are |
2415s | absolutely terrible |
2419s | real quick Amulet of undying |
2422s | oh you want to just lean all the way |
2424s | into this nonsense TJ yeah yeah |
2428s | double Synergy with the undying disciple |
2430s | one because they both have undying in |
2432s | the name and two because it's a death |
2434s | rattle yeah okay |
2435s | um and because it's just the best option |
2438s | out of those ones so yeah uh he's gonna |
2440s | pick uh the amulet and one of the things |
2443s | you always have to think about when |
2445s | you're playing defrog is uh the ripple |
2448s | effect of your choices because every |
2450s | card that you pick is probably not even |
2452s | just going to be played once in a game |
2454s | it's going to be played multiple times |
2457s | in a game so you have to think like okay |
2460s | do I really want to be summoning like |
2462s | three mounted Raptors this game or would |
2465s | I rather have three undying disciples |
2467s | this game |
2469s | um and it doesn't matter if they're four |
2471s | costs or one cost one in terms of |
2473s | Contraband session tests exactly they're |
2475s | always going to be summoned so if you |
2477s | can pick something a little bit more |
2478s | powerful |
2480s | um that is going to take you a little |
2481s | bit longer to actually get on the board |
2482s | initially uh than like I said the ripple |
2485s | effect and that's going to happen on the |
2487s | remainder of the game |
2488s | so same with them or Amulet of undying |
2492s | no see I I cut off your assessment of |
2495s | the jackpot cards but I do think that's |
2496s | a little important to think about with |
2499s | fell fire in the hole as well right like |
2500s | the first time you play fell fire not |
2503s | great |
2504s | um but after that if you're replaying it |
2506s | quote for free a bunch of times over and |
2508s | over |
2509s | um it actually does a lot for you when |
2511s | being thrown in the pool of cards so |
2513s | it's it's not the worst possible outcome |
2516s | but I think bunny would have been far |
2518s | more interested in many many different |
2520s | options that he could have come from |
2522s | yeah |
2524s | he's just gonna |
2527s | just has a gonna have a board nuke with |
2530s | Contraband sash it's going to be yeah |
2531s | I'm decipher and then fell fire in the |
2533s | hole now all he needs is something that |
2535s | like triggers death rattles and then |
2538s | boom like 12 damage AOE each Contraband |
2541s | stash |
2543s | um |
2544s | but for now uh bunny Hopper not many |
2549s | options |
2551s | uh |
2552s | it's the perjury that's picked up I |
2555s | guess you could just go double secret |
2556s | this turn |
2557s | but it doesn't feel great considering |
2561s | um there's just a venomous score but |
2563s | that's going to answer the undying |
2564s | disciple that's on the board |
2567s | but hey what can you do |
2572s | finally deciding it's time to get the |
2575s | injection in play oh |
2580s | you're right TJ do you need a moment |
2583s | God I love a vaulted relic of dimension |
2592s | okay yeah that got better quickly yep we |
2596s | got a brand J situation going on here |
2606s | buddy will have been through the ringer |
2608s | for the last few turns because there was |
2611s | a partner with love storm activated his |
2613s | vault uh for the one cause Relic which |
2616s | would have gone but oh okay he's doing |
2618s | that on turn four which means he's |
2619s | probably not playing dimensions on five |
2621s | but then love storm just loaded up the |
2623s | second uh location on the same turn |
2625s | bunny oh okay he probably is just |
2627s | playing dimensions on fire then love |
2629s | storm didn't play dimensions on five and |
2631s | but he would have thought okay great |
2632s | he's not playing dimensions on five and |
2633s | then he just topped exit on six instead |
2635s | so unlucky |
2646s | ice barrier okay |
2649s | oh |
2652s | this hand is uh |
2656s | uh who |
2659s | quite the predicament |
2661s | it is |
2663s | I think we're trading this amulet I |
2665s | don't know I don't know if one undying |
2667s | disciple is gonna uh cut it in this |
2669s | situation |
2671s | yeah I think trade amulet is fine |
2675s | but honestly |
2677s | if you don't Draw Something premium off |
2680s | the top you might just be ripping |
2682s | yourself fire in the hole just to get it |
2684s | in the pool |
2688s | oh oh no |
2690s | yup yup there it is |
2693s | there it is Boom take two |
2697s | yeah ordering they're doubly important |
2699s | because I don't think you mind |
2703s | yep no big deal though third Lobster |
2705s | don't be ordering for bunny Hopper |
2706s | importance I don't think you necessarily |
2707s | mind drawing The Amulet back at that |
2709s | point right so you definitely want to |
2710s | trade it in first before you draw the |
2711s | spell |
2713s | um on a more basic level it's the way to |
2715s | draw a card that leaves you more Mana |
2717s | open at the end of the turn which is |
2718s | just kind of good Hearthstone mechanics |
2720s | in the first place |
2721s | um but I think doubly important because |
2722s | of the spell draw coming |
2724s | uh from the felt fire as well |
2726s | yep |
2729s | all right love so I'm gonna push some |
2732s | damage here I actually wants to open up |
2735s | some hand space as well because of brand |
2737s | school teacher |
2739s | um |
2740s | has potential to uh add a lot of parts |
2743s | to hand this to if you get your you get |
2745s | like the relic of Dimensions or |
2747s | something |
2748s | um |
2749s | off the top but also or you know just |
2752s | draw spells from the school teacher like |
2754s | spectral site or something like that |
2760s | and to juice up the J's potential brand |
2762s | Jace yeah that's the thing is lovestone |
2765s | has a couple of ways to go about this he |
2767s | can go for the brand school teacher |
2768s | massive value impactful spells can play |
2771s | multiple nugglings in the same turn as |
2773s | the brand as well especially if he waits |
2775s | one more turn from here but the other |
2777s | route is just to play every card that |
2779s | says fell on it and then just see if |
2781s | brand Jace ends the game when you get to |
2782s | that point so yeah there's a couple of |
2785s | good looking options from this point |
2786s | forward I think bunny is gonna need to |
2789s | ditched together this ragtag group of |
2792s | cards that he's been uh dealt this game |
2794s | into something relatively impactful and |
2797s | as TJ was saying that's kind of thief |
2798s | Rogue 101 right and I know bunny is as |
2801s | big a fan of this deck I believe as TJ |
2802s | is and has played it a lot so I'm sure |
2805s | we'll be well used to solving these |
2807s | puzzles but you can see the frustration |
2808s | on his face there is not a lot there for |
2811s | him right now |
2813s | yeah I I wouldn't even be surprised if |
2816s | bunny Hopper like |
2819s | Shadow stepped there |
2823s | and replay to pull one additional secret |
2825s | out of the deck approved the draw ever |
2828s | so slightly oh these are big |
2833s | I think if this turn is starting school |
2835s | teacher then we're starting to get an |
2837s | idea |
2838s | of where love Storm's brand plan is out |
2841s | yeah you can play more expensive school |
2844s | teacher and then like Relic |
2847s | or vault plus relica phantasms I think |
2849s | it's what six six and seven seven at |
2851s | this point |
2852s | uh five five and six six I think well I |
2854s | will be after the the after the other |
2856s | Relic first yes exactly yeah |
2859s | oh actually not gonna even play the uh |
2861s | uh Extinction first not too worried |
2864s | about this Gonna Save that just for some |
2865s | additional removal |
2869s | or |
2873s | or just do it wrong |
2884s | okay |
2889s | foreign |
2906s | oh okay |
2909s | cool that's a playable card and there's |
2912s | a shadow step as well but can't we |
2914s | played the second because gonna play |
2915s | Contraband stash we're gonna get |
2917s | objection fell fire in the hole and then |
2919s | can uh |
2921s | double bone Spike actually |
2937s | and then play the gravedigger |
2941s | and I wonder if you preemptively stabbed |
2943s | the Grave Digger |
2948s | it's got to be bran thrown away |
2951s | yeah a little unfortunate because |
2954s | he hasn't been shown either of the cards |
2957s | that are insane in hand with bran oh |
2960s | yeah yeah I mean that's kind of the |
2961s | influence right like bunny saw five |
2963s | cards in hand three of which one was |
2966s | bran and two were useless with bran so |
2968s | he might suspect that the brand actually |
2970s | isn't that dangerous at that point he |
2972s | doesn't know that there's a discounted |
2973s | Jace in the hand right which it would |
2975s | have to be there and discounted to be uh |
2978s | potent with the brand |
2984s | gonna play the school teacher into the |
2986s | objection |
2989s | I knew that was there because that was |
2990s | the only secret that was actually played |
2993s | from the sketchy stranger |
2995s | okay well the school teacher actually uh |
2999s | just because of the objection |
3001s | got rid of a lot of value from lovestrom |
3003s | the objection doing yeah ton of work if |
3005s | you look at just the minion pool yeah |
3007s | twice the minion pool for Relic Demon |
3010s | Hunter they really don't have a lot of |
3011s | throwaway minions the only real one is |
3013s | Sir Finley everything else has a pretty |
3016s | substantial impact with brand lady steno |
3019s | vendors |
3021s | and of course the big ones |
3026s | I was about to say I wonder if that sets |
3028s | off any alarm bells for bunny the fact |
3030s | that school you know the seemingly |
3032s | fairly useless brand that love storm had |
3035s | in hand had not been used on two |
3036s | different occasions to prop the |
3037s | objection instead of the school teachers |
3039s | both times uh but those alarm bells are |
3042s | no longer necessary because the fire is |
3045s | very much burning in bunny Hopper's face |
3047s | right now as the uh branches |
3051s | amount of damage here |
3053s | [Applause] |
3055s | it's almost it was almost lethal yep |
3058s | that's insane I didn't I didn't think |
3061s | that many bell spells have been played |
3063s | but |
3064s | um yeah buddy Hopper uh would have |
3068s | needed prep in that situation off the |
3071s | top in order to have a chance right to |
3074s | be able to prep bone Spike and then uh |
3076s | dinathrius yeah it wasn't even that |
3078s | juice but everything on the board had |
3079s | one Health |
3081s | um so it should have been able to clear |
3082s | up the board and at least heal for some |
3083s | but no prep off the top and that meant |
3086s | that bunny Hopper just had no way to |
3088s | deal with that so |
3090s | a little bit tough |
3091s | um that was just a combination of a |
3093s | couple things the jackpot early from |
3095s | bunny Hopper not really getting anything |
3097s | super impactful with the celestial |
3099s | alignment just concluded and then from |
3101s | there it was just a bunch of support |
3103s | cards being drawn and none of the actual |
3105s | meat of the deck nothing that helped him |
3107s | fight back or Draw additional cards or |
3109s | uh any type of disruption outside the |
3111s | gravedigger which ended up not being |
3114s | really impactful because you didn't see |
3116s | like you said the the actual cards that |
3119s | would have been good uh with bran so |
3124s | um I still think you'd go for the brand |
3126s | in that instance though |
3128s | um just because you have an objection up |
3130s | right so isolating get another Minion |
3133s | uh uh or making it that much more |
3136s | difficult for lovestorm to actually play |
3137s | a minion |
3139s | but it is what it is it is what it is |
3141s | lovestorm takes game one |
3144s | does indeed and that leaves him in a |
3147s | good position in the series |
3148s | um but it does mean that we are going to |
3151s | have to move forward to this Mage and to |
3152s | the bull priest as well remember we've |
3155s | been used to yesterday predominantly |
3157s | seeing the you know heavy spell buff |
3159s | based versions of priest in whatever |
3161s | different form it's been in apart from |
3163s | with pocket train uh who is kind of the |
3165s | reverse habugabu right like habugabu got |
3168s | out you might have forgot that he played |
3169s | yesterday because he just smashed his |
3171s | way through and got out of the group 6-0 |
3174s | pocket train was almost on the opposite |
3176s | end of that largely because of the |
3178s | struggle that that ball priest did have |
3180s | and that's with pocket train playing it |
3181s | who is probably the best player in the |
3183s | world when it comes to boar priest uh |
3185s | plastic had a very similar run through |
3187s | and already and I I know bunny Hopper |
3191s | has a very strong mental game right when |
3193s | it comes to Hearthstone and has done for |
3194s | a number of years we've talked about it |
3196s | you're not this successful for this long |
3198s | without being you know a master of the |
3199s | mental side of the game as well but when |
3201s | you start to see some of what happened |
3203s | yesterday players not drawing anything |
3205s | their deck's not being kind to them and |
3207s | just getting that absolutely smashed out |
3209s | of existence and then that happens to |
3211s | you game one going into a series where |
3213s | you're trying to make it to the World |
3214s | Championship there has to be a small |
3216s | part of you where that nags in the back |
3218s | of your brain right and suddenly if you |
3220s | then go into a second game and your |
3222s | Mulligan isn't good that's when it can |
3224s | start to pile on top of you but as I |
3226s | said I have full faith in bunny to to |
3228s | keep a calm head here it's what he does |
3230s | he's been keeping cool calm and |
3231s | collected for seven years now at this |
3233s | point so sure there is a long way to go |
3236s | in this series still |
3238s | he just secretly gets |
3240s | ridiculously tilted |
3242s | [Music] |
3244s | he has a oh what do they call those |
3245s | things |
3247s | um |
3247s | [Music] |
3251s | gonna need a little more info than that |
3252s | TJ uh it's it it's like a |
3255s | it's a business and you go to the |
3258s | business and it's like a warehouse where |
3259s | they have a bunch of like old stuff and |
3261s | they give you a sledgehammer |
3263s | what and you and and you just literally |
3266s | pay them and you go in there you just |
3268s | start breaking everything that does |
3270s | sound great but I've never heard of it |
3271s | before |
3274s | um |
3277s | [Music] |
3278s | rage room |
3280s | ah nice about a rage room |
3286s | um |
3287s | um it might be it might be a us thing no |
3291s | they exist I just I just did it near me |
3293s | and there is there is I could travel to |
3296s | one from where I am yeah yeah me too in |
3299s | fact |
3300s | um actually they don't know it's it's |
3301s | 3am right now so they don't open until |
3303s | 11 but I can travel right now but yeah |
3307s | uh eight hours from now maybe I'll uh |
3310s | hit up the the rage room yeah they just |
3313s | they just give you like weaponry and |
3316s | then you go into a room with like you |
3318s | have you put they put you in a bunch of |
3320s | safety equipment |
3321s | helmets and stuff and they just give you |
3323s | weapons and they go in there and you |
3325s | just break everything |
3328s | long story short that's what bunny |
3330s | Hopper does |
3331s | beats are punching your monitor am I |
3333s | right yeah yeah punch somebody else's |
3336s | old monitor it doesn't work anymore yeah |
3338s | with an ax |
3344s | all right bunny Hopper queuing up again |
3348s | perjury in the opening hand Black Water |
3351s | Cutlass as well of course always an |
3353s | option he is going to be holding on to |
3354s | it alongside that sketchy stranger love |
3356s | storm on the other side on the mage |
3364s | with not the best looking opening hand |
3367s | you're never overly sad I think when you |
3369s | get to cast an early Arcane intellect |
3371s | with this deck um Arcane intellect is a |
3373s | very very important card to play over |
3375s | the course of the game at some point |
3377s | because a it helps you to draw cards |
3380s | towards a lot of those crucial cards |
3381s | particularly the hero card but then |
3384s | secondly if you have an Arcane intellect |
3385s | cast then your hero card then also |
3387s | refills you on resources later in the |
3389s | game so early AI a point where there |
3391s | isn't going to be much pressure on the |
3393s | board is usually something you're very |
3394s | happy to see with this deck yep |
3397s | but like you said outside of that hey uh |
3400s | not the best uh Safara depending on the |
3403s | next couple of spells that are picked up |
3405s | but yep |
3406s | um buddy Hopper you know pretty good |
3408s | curve right um has some good spells to |
3412s | play early on and then a a queen ashara |
3415s | on curve potentially |
3417s | uh which could be a very high level |
3419s | power right you pick horn already has |
3421s | Contraband stash |
3423s | what sorry I just I just looked over to |
3426s | my other monitor and it still has the |
3427s | near me search for rage rooms on it my |
3430s | eye was just caught by all the reviews |
3431s | which are amazing you could say like |
3433s | ironically or fittingly whichever way |
3435s | you want to look at it all the reviews |
3437s | are so nice and pleasant of the place |
3440s | where you go and just violently search |
3442s | everything up and it just really amused |
3445s | I'm sorry |
3447s | well yeah because you get out all your |
3449s | rage exactly yeah come out the other |
3452s | side real calm yeah |
3454s | make sense and you leave it you're in |
3456s | the mood to leave a really nice review |
3461s | okay so planning out these next couple |
3464s | turns uh for uh for bunny Hopper |
3470s | um |
3472s | I I want to get the queen of Charlotte |
3474s | down like as early as possible and get |
3477s | like the horn played as early as |
3479s | possible |
3482s | what |
3483s | that Alec Mount is reasonable Shield |
3486s | shatter not so much |
3501s | me tusks won't stop shattering |
3506s | oh probably gonna swap yeah oh for sure |
3508s | this is really nice |
3513s | it's sort of all this nonsense that's in |
3516s | the hand and it's going to replace it |
3517s | with other slightly better nonsense oh |
3521s | yeah that improved this is an |
3523s | improvement Yep this is all |
3525s | significantly better that's an |
3527s | improvement oh |
3532s | okay so we're still two spells away I |
3535s | believe from uh queen of shark jackpot |
3537s | being the only one so far so you go coin |
3539s | prep |
3541s | reconnaissance Queen horn |
3545s | pick the horn you can't play it but |
3547s | yeah that's the thing right if you wait |
3550s | one more turn you can just do all of |
3552s | that next turn and use the prep on the |
3554s | horn right which I suppose could be an |
3556s | option but just got a lick Mount here |
3557s | instead okay yeah I like this a lot as |
3559s | well yeah yeah this is very smart |
3560s | because this is now three spells so the |
3562s | the ashara is active so instead of |
3564s | worrying about using the prep to juice |
3567s | your value on the horn you're now just |
3569s | doing this you're winning board it gives |
3570s | you time to just play a five five on |
3572s | board next turn while it's Juiced and |
3573s | then you can just go for whatever you |
3574s | want this makes a ton of sense this has |
3577s | to be the best line yeah |
3578s | the only problem with click Mount at |
3581s | least from my personal experience is |
3582s | that when you replay with Contraband |
3584s | stash or tests random literally never |
3586s | goes on your minion |
3587s | I'm pretty sure it's coded in the game |
3590s | just go on your opponent's minions |
3592s | like Target enemies if possible |
3596s | hidden in the Contra Dash text somewhere |
3599s | Alec Mount of the arcmage |
3602s | yes yeah exactly |
3605s | um so it's a little bit of a risk but it |
3607s | uh in terms of just raw power up front |
3610s | great especially if you can prep it out |
3612s | and get it a little bit sooner so okay |
3615s | yeah and I like I have been through this |
3617s | instance a few times one of the nice |
3619s | things about Eric Mount particularly if |
3621s | you are able to have a fast start and |
3622s | you land elec Mount is the first time |
3624s | you land elec Mount you get |
3626s | overwhelmingly ahead on board and then I |
3628s | sort of learn from experience even |
3629s | though you really want to go face and be |
3631s | aggressive at that point if you then |
3633s | fight for board using all of your elect |
3635s | Mount value you can quite often get into |
3637s | a situation where your opponent just |
3638s | doesn't have minions by the time you're |
3640s | playing the the resetting effects right |
3642s | because you're just in such overwhelming |
3644s | board control from the initial place |
3654s | one thing to worry about here is slowly |
3657s | dying but does have a starting to pick |
3659s | up a lot of the defensive tools here I |
3661s | mean pretty much all of it nightclub |
3663s | saying Tim double snow flurry double |
3665s | flurry |
3667s | uh |
3668s | can freeze for days not weeks |
3672s | yeah these minions are not going to be |
3675s | attacking anytime soon |
3687s | but we will await with baited breath the |
3691s | contents of Bunny's horn here because |
3693s | that could have a very significant |
3695s | impact okay |
3699s | thank you TJ great contribution as |
3702s | always |
3708s | apparently getting it out there you know |
3710s | yep |
3714s | What's it gonna be |
3716s | oh |
3729s | look at those bristles |
3731s | how much curl that bad boy can get |
3744s | it |
3746s | I mean |
3748s | Tyrion seems quite good |
3753s | yeah it's just a matter of when and |
3755s | where all those cards fit into your |
3757s | curve because |
3759s | only kind of has the opposite problem to |
3760s | last game right where he has a ton of |
3763s | good stuff that he now wants to be doing |
3765s | over the course of the next few turns |
3767s | um so it's possible that a cheaper card |
3769s | would have fit in where Tyrion didn't |
3771s | but I think he's fine from this point |
3773s | because now like the Contraband stash is |
3775s | already really Juiced he then has |
3777s | dinathrius coming in the future turns as |
3778s | well so you do have to have a little |
3780s | moment to think about just when you're |
3782s | playing an expensive card like uh Tyrion |
3784s | but I do think it makes the most sense |
3788s | uh has the the tempo already |
3791s | necessary to support the Tyrion yes it's |
3796s | gonna be just the dawn grasp here this |
3800s | is gonna be cold case Arcane intellect |
3802s | oh you know Wildfire was playing |
3804s | Wildfire as well yep okay |
3808s | does know that one of the Reckless |
3811s | apprentices buried right at the bottom |
3813s | of the deck as well though yeah the |
3815s | initial Finley which is a problem based |
3816s | on this current board state |
3818s | yeah |
3821s | first hit |
3823s | it's gonna be ice trap |
3828s | stay away |
3830s | and it doesn't matter if you freeze the |
3832s | uh |
3833s | the tentacles |
3835s | that are up to three |
3842s | cool step now as well |
3849s | even if you Contraband stash on this |
3851s | board the elect mount's going on a |
3853s | skillet |
3857s | around me |
3860s | this is just all face stagger face pass |
3862s | like okay I'm gonna step back the queen |
3866s | step right yeah and put in a Tyrion all |
3868s | right I'm fine with that exactly uh that |
3870s | does that's the option that immediately |
3872s | left out to me |
3873s | you do also have to at least have a |
3876s | cursory count of lethal chances and |
3878s | percentages |
3880s | you know perhaps if you landed like Eric |
3881s | mount on an attacking minion for example |
3885s | yeah all three of the uh technical hits |
3889s | would have to go phase |
3893s | one two two |
3896s | but not so if you got the extra damage |
3898s | from menelik Mount right from Contraband |
3900s | stash ah sure sure yeah yeah but it |
3902s | would only affect the breakpoint by one |
3904s | I won yeah |
3906s | you'd have to win not only the friendly |
3908s | minion role but also the attacking |
3910s | minion role as to what could actually |
3912s | attack so probably absolutely not worth |
3914s | going for in that instance yep |
3919s | the tentacles Dodge the skellies as well |
3921s | so again the freeze from lovestorm is |
3924s | just not going to make any difference |
3926s | that damage is still going to be |
3928s | powering in down to just three life this |
3931s | is looking regulations are correct |
3932s | unwinnable |
3935s | magic yeah |
3937s | I've heard of it |
3942s | I can't take them away it's not all of |
3946s | them |
3950s | a valiant effort |
3953s | whoa currently still alive right this is |
3956s | doing five so it is a full clear and |
3958s | then the location freeze |
3965s | when did where did it get the |
3968s | doesn't matter |
3971s | [Music] |
3974s | where did it get the honorable kill |
3976s | [Music] |
3980s | so much |
3981s | fortified okay because there's Julia was |
3984s | at four Health okay sorry |
3987s | um I was like what the heck yeah three I |
3991s | thought their g-log was at three Health |
3992s | four Health yes uh at the very end there |
3995s | so we've got the honorable kill and it |
3996s | was or it was played before the Alec |
3998s | bound emerged so it hit that like my |
4000s | last yeah very likely that |
4004s | um bunny Hopper went from that situation |
4005s | anyway even if it's just waiting a |
4007s | couple turns and getting down the side |
4008s | to nathrius so |
4011s | um very good position a nice little |
4013s | opening from bunny Hopper love storms |
4016s | wasn't terrible right it's just very |
4018s | difficult to deal with that much stats |
4021s | that early you have to you know try and |
4025s | fit in |
4027s | trying to build up your own game plan |
4029s | while also reacting to |
4031s | all of these Mana cheap things that the |
4035s | uh Thief Rogue is able to do with |
4037s | powerful cards from other classes yeah |
4040s | when Rogue hits it hits right |
4042s | particularly in a deck that takes a |
4044s | little bit of time to ramp up like Mage |
4046s | does if you're able to get a good |
4049s | jackpot outcome if you get good |
4050s | reconnaissance outcomes if you get that |
4053s | early queen as bunny did there |
4055s | especially if that's all tied together |
4057s | with the Mana cheat like preparation for |
4059s | example as it was there for bunny then |
4061s | that is very very hard to come back |
4063s | against but now bunny Hopper stepping up |
4065s | to the plate uh with big spell mage of |
4068s | his own murloc homes thrown in there as |
4071s | well which I know is a very favorite |
4073s | card for bunny hopper in general big |
4076s | spell major deck that kind of was out of |
4078s | the meta for quite some time until Abu |
4081s | gabu one of the biggest influences on |
4083s | The Meta right now tweeted a few weeks |
4086s | back saying big Foy card picks Bell Mage |
4088s | is actually the best card in the best |
4090s | deck in the game and you're all stupid |
4091s | you should be playing this uh not |
4094s | necessarily having the impact that |
4097s | possibly we might have expected from a |
4099s | hobby Garden call like that but |
4100s | certainly it caused a few people to |
4102s | experiment with the deck again and yeah |
4104s | it's a deck that is doing fairly well |
4106s | overall it does still have some really |
4108s | nice important matchups and particularly |
4111s | in this series we |
4114s | have that interaction that we saw |
4115s | earlier on yesterday with big spell Mage |
4118s | and boar priest in particular right and |
4120s | how that can be a real real problem deck |
4122s | for the ball priest to deal with in |
4124s | certain situations so could still be a |
4126s | strong deck for bunny in this series |
4128s | does not have the priest match up on |
4130s | this occasion though that we're going |
4131s | into the Mage mirror |
4134s | yeah class mirror not deck mirror |
4139s | I don't know what am I talking about |
4141s | it's a mirror |
4143s | maybe it just does a bunch of stuff |
4146s | skeleton spawn |
4149s | people die |
4151s | [Music] |
4154s | it is up there |
4156s | how as far apart as two Mage decks can |
4159s | get overall though I would say right |
4161s | yeah I mean you just play Bruno cast all |
4166s | the Spells of your opponent cast that |
4167s | game |
4168s | oh sorry yeah you're right no I'm being |
4170s | foolish of course TJ exactly the same |
4172s | yeah that's fair |
4175s | if one starts with 40 health and one |
4176s | starts with 30 health so big spell Mage |
4179s | already has the advantage 10 more Health |
4181s | 10 more cards |
4184s | yes ten ten more cards yeah strictly an |
4187s | advantage of course yeah |
4191s | oh there we go |
4197s | and love Storm's hand is |
4200s | oof |
4203s | that's not what you want |
4206s | [Music] |
4218s | oh that feels terrible |
4223s | and uninfused |
4226s | Frozen touch gotta be done though |
4228s | because you know what else feels |
4229s | terrible you can't even attack I know |
4231s | but you know what else feels terrible TJ |
4233s | having every card you draw for the rest |
4234s | of the game just costing one more for no |
4236s | reason because |
4238s | uh it's not really a deck in skeleton |
4241s | Mage right that is able to kill minions |
4243s | you know like normally they fight for |
4245s | minions fight for ball with their own |
4246s | minions well love storm doesn't have any |
4247s | right now outside of that there's very |
4250s | few ways to just shoot minions off the |
4252s | board so if you committed to leaving |
4254s | that there it's going to be there for |
4255s | you know four five six turns even |
4257s | perhaps from this point disgusting yep |
4260s | all right well bunny Hopper senses |
4262s | weakness |
4265s | um and because of that is actually just |
4267s | gonna straight up |
4268s | use the coin went for spell |
4277s | I was gonna say normally when you have |
4278s | Linda in your in your opening hand |
4280s | specifically on the coin you coin it you |
4283s | hold that coin and you coined it it's a |
4284s | lot of power |
4286s | um but sense weakness |
4289s | decides to play more for Tempo to get a |
4291s | little bit ahead of Love storm and for |
4293s | the fact that Belinda is not as strong |
4297s | against the uh spooky Mage as it is |
4300s | against other decks because they can |
4302s | freeze it right so getting it out |
4304s | quicker |
4305s | doesn't mean that you're not going to be |
4308s | able to get the discount on spells it |
4310s | just gives you a bigger minion one turn |
4312s | faster which against a lot of decks |
4313s | makes a big difference but against this |
4315s | one maybe not so much |
4323s | and actually the more I think about the |
4325s | more spell makes sense right |
4327s | um because you said it earlier |
4330s | the deck doesn't kill minions very well |
4332s | it kills minions with their own minions |
4334s | yes the spell that you're gonna get from |
4338s | the okanie if you can protect it |
4341s | which it's very likely to be protected |
4342s | because he was playing it on an empty |
4344s | board |
4345s | is going to be impactful regardless |
4348s | so |
4349s | I think also just on a very basic level |
4351s | it was the on curve thing to deny right |
4354s | like generally the on curve turn for |
4356s | play is Cold Case a lot of the time |
4359s | um whereas the Minions that you play on |
4361s | for are like savara Reckless Apprentice |
4363s | multicaster those are your four drops |
4365s | those are all very situational they're |
4367s | not not necessarily things that you want |
4369s | to play on Ford straight away |
4371s | um so generally the thing that you are |
4373s | looking to play on turn four is going to |
4375s | be that yeah |
4387s | jokes on you buddy |
4389s | Cold Case is on curb on turn five idiot |
4394s | Adam |
4399s | um |
4402s | so bunny Hopper has |
4405s | still a pretty good couple turns coming |
4407s | up next turn could go like school |
4408s | teacher plus trade away one of the Drake |
4410s | fire ambulance yeah and then assuming |
4412s | Drake fire emulator Rune isn't drawn off |
4414s | the top |
4415s | makes for a nice belindo where you're |
4417s | splitting the difference you get one of |
4419s | each |
4430s | poop our pair of sorcers could actually |
4432s | be really good next turn too |
4434s | there's a lot of cheap spells that Mage |
4437s | doesn't really have an option but to |
4439s | hold on to |
4442s | solid Alibi actually being a big one |
4444s | right |
4445s | like if you flop flip solid Alibi with |
4447s | like a jake fire AMOLED it nearly |
4449s | becomes unplayable and that's a big card |
4451s | in terms of |
4452s | weaving it in later as the spooky Mage |
4454s | as you know you set up a board and then |
4457s | you solid Alibi to buy yourself a turd |
4458s | anybody yeah obviously flurry is the |
4461s | dream for multiple reasons very surface |
4463s | level reason it costs zero it's just the |
4465s | best one that you want to hit in a lot |
4466s | of positions |
4468s | um but also along the same lines just |
4469s | denying flurry from your opponent |
4471s | especially in a game where they haven't |
4473s | seen location yet you talked about it a |
4475s | lot of the frustration of this matchup |
4477s | from the big spell Mage side is that you |
4479s | just played very few large minions over |
4481s | the course of the game and spooky Mage |
4484s | is very well equipped to deal with that |
4485s | because they have lots of these smaller |
4487s | freeze effects they can use if you're |
4488s | able to deny a flurry uh by flipping it |
4492s | getting it cost 10 in your opponent's |
4493s | hand then not only do you then get to |
4496s | cast say a zero Mana Drake fire on you |
4498s | but you also then get to deny your |
4500s | opponent from freezing those two huge |
4502s | dragons that you've just made on the |
4503s | other side so yeah Al having seen both |
4506s | natural flurries used by lovestorm one |
4509s | is a counter breaker and now one just to |
4511s | deny this board |
4512s | bunny will be uh his eyes will be |
4515s | lighting up a little bit about his |
4516s | possibilities in this game |
4521s | yeah and even despite seeing both of |
4523s | those still goes for |
4525s | the solid Alibi it was uh going to be |
4529s | what sold out by Frozen touch or cold |
4532s | case at least he he knew that there was |
4535s | a spell in hand because of the a frost |
4537s | spell in hand because of the dungeoneer |
4539s | so |
4541s | um decided to go with that still has |
4542s | Belinda lined up |
4545s | um still hasn't drawn that extra uh that |
4547s | extra spell whether it be the Drake fire |
4549s | emble in the second room so it still has |
4550s | Belinda ready to go |
4553s | for that big Power Spike |
4555s | might be a drake buyer amulet turn |
4557s | though uh coming up we'll see what bunny |
4559s | Hopper decides to do but |
4563s | of storm now we got to keep track |
4566s | um savara |
4568s | is |
4570s | just the Wildfire for now |
4572s | yeah just drawing this turn so only the |
4574s | Wildfire at the pool at the moment |
4586s | yeah |
4588s | a little bit uh |
4589s | we have could just go Belinda right |
4591s | simplest Belinda and then |
4595s | you know do a pelican toss |
4601s | I believe it's got a a vaulted Pelican |
4603s | TJ actually vaulted Pelican yeah or just |
4607s | go highest power on board |
4610s | yeah that's the debate right it's |
4612s | Belinda this turn Which is less powered |
4614s | still a lot of power but it's less power |
4616s | this turn and that allows you to do |
4617s | disgusting combinations of things the |
4620s | next turn uh with the five Banner spells |
4623s | and the two Mana Drake fire amulet uh or |
4625s | you just go straight in now with max |
4628s | power and I think the reason Bonnie |
4630s | likes that more than anything else is |
4631s | that he gets to play the murloc homes |
4632s | game which he enjoys more than anything |
4634s | else in Hearthstone so there you go and |
4637s | uh if there's any player that if if you |
4640s | said I ha you need to pick one player |
4643s | right now it's gonna be an awkward |
4646s | statement but one player right now who |
4649s | has to pick correctly for murloc homes |
4651s | yeah for your band from Hearthstone |
4653s | forever funny half will probably be the |
4655s | player I'd pick |
4659s | and if I had done that I would be banned |
4662s | from Hearthstone forever |
4664s | you got it wrong |
4669s | grass picked up |
4672s | got flurry and Cold Case and a frost got |
4674s | our candida Lake and got wildfire and |
4677s | then just oh |
4678s | oh no it's the big downside that we |
4682s | didn't really mention right I talked a |
4683s | lot about the upsides and I did like the |
4685s | decision to throw it out early and deal |
4687s | with the watch pose because you know I I |
4689s | think honestly there's a real chance it |
4692s | would still be disrupting his turns at |
4694s | this point in the game if he hadn't have |
4696s | dealt with it but that is the huge huge |
4698s | downside no flurry now comes off the |
4700s | Magister Dawn grass which means he is in |
4703s | trouble now in terms of the amount of |
4705s | damage he's taken this turn |
4707s | this is some trouble |
4710s | I Joe I nearly said Trump trouble but |
4713s | I'm like you know what I'll if TJ wants |
4715s | it he can have it and there you go |
4716s | you're obliged oh I wanted it yeah |
4723s | there's a lot of damage Coming Love |
4725s | Storm's way |
4728s | and knows that the plugins |
4731s | off the board just to limit board space |
4735s | for bunny Hopper which is smart funny |
4737s | yeah ping one of these off in Belinda |
4739s | but right it limits Sports base it also |
4742s | creates lots of flexible options for |
4745s | reckless Apprentice lines on the |
4746s | following terms right with the the hero |
4748s | power The Reckless Apprentice in various |
4750s | sequences also has the snow flurry to |
4753s | make it zero as well but I do think |
4755s | primarily yeah the limiting of board |
4756s | space is the number one concern |
4770s | [Music] |
4778s | nobody should know that it's solid Olive |
4780s | and now because picked correctly on the |
4782s | murloc homes in the opening hand solid |
4784s | Alibi true yeah |
4787s | or I don't know because there's also the |
4789s | information that frostweep dungeon here |
4791s | pulled a frost spell that's still in |
4792s | hand so it could be either |
4794s | he could think that he has a 10 cost uh |
4797s | Frozen touch or a 10 cost |
4800s | a solid Alibi or |
4804s | just that the solid Alibi that was in |
4806s | the opening hand is the one that got put |
4808s | to 10 costs does have that information |
4811s | at least at the very least |
4814s | okay what's that is that |
4818s | way |
4819s | so full yep one |
4830s | foreign |
4837s | two |
4856s | um wants to take out the interview |
4863s | sure yeah okay fair enough denies a lot |
4867s | of extra damage from the one ones |
4868s | particularly if you're playing solid |
4869s | Alibi right this does make a lot of |
4871s | sense yeah |
4876s | all right |
4879s | love story has been through a lot of his |
4880s | attack so Bundy Hopper |
4883s | um has to have more dress on his mind |
4885s | now |
4886s | when thinking about the turn yep |
4892s | so |
4893s | I guess Drake fire AMOLED but look for |
4897s | oh okay |
4899s | yeah 12 Health there you go |
4903s | yeah as long as you're hitting it twice |
4906s | it's helpful hitting one 12 Health |
4908s | minion actually isn't helpful here |
4909s | against mordrash at all really because |
4911s | of the love storms just going into 10 |
4913s | Mana next turn anyway uh yeah you just |
4915s | pick one up |
4918s | time runs out on me |
4930s | kick me pick me |
4933s | okay so if you expect more trash then go |
4936s | get the solid album out of the way hey |
4938s | guys so I'm just gonna make sure that |
4940s | you're not really feeling any damage to |
4942s | my face in the process yeah very small |
4945s | timing I think on the solid Alibi for |
4947s | sure |
4949s | make sure that love storm cannot even |
4952s | think about setting up some kind of |
4953s | counter push with the more dress this |
4955s | turn and start ripping those pings at |
4957s | face |
4958s | Ping's starting to get up there of |
4959s | course even with the nerfed Magister |
4961s | Dawn grass hero power |
4963s | still a scary Prospect |
4973s | yes this is solid hour by wildfire |
4981s | and |
4983s | if my calculations |
4987s | I guess we'll find out |
4992s | and Wildfire okay I was right I should |
4995s | just stopped it sold out by a wildfire |
4998s | they just believed in yourself TJ |
5002s | my brain was trying to tell me no just |
5004s | stop that's it |
5007s | I was like no there's three |
5009s | it's a Perpetual state of TJ's existence |
5012s | honestly his brain just going no just |
5014s | stop what are you doing |
5018s | than my being my soul being like can't |
5021s | stop won't stop |
5026s | it's all big |
5029s | I guess it is hey oh |
5035s | all right Rune is lethal every time |
5040s | wait how |
5042s | the dragon it's gonna give you a bunch |
5044s | of discovered cheap spells ah I got you |
5047s | got you gotcha |
5052s | foreign |
5063s | what does that mean in his initial |
5066s | reaction |
5070s | oh |
5072s | f porn is pretty here we go our missing |
5075s | start here actually this creates some |
5077s | potential |
5081s | yeah shooting star the skeletons yeah |
5083s | yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah |
5084s | yeah yeah |
5098s | TJ called it his brain did not stop him |
5102s | he said some words and they were nothing |
5105s | short of a prophecy Rune of the archmage |
5108s | is always lethal |
5112s | even had a second Rune fantastic even if |
5116s | you just I just did not need three more |
5118s | damage or four more damage |
5121s | um yeah and uh |
5123s | even after you said it when you said |
5125s | your generated spells suddenly I was |
5127s | like you know what he's kind of right |
5129s | here and I started thinking about the |
5130s | option of like love storm let that board |
5133s | hang around |
5134s | with both of the dragons on the board |
5137s | right so he knew for example that there |
5140s | were two spells in her he like that |
5141s | information is all clear wait did he |
5143s | know that the second one is there |
5144s | because one of them was drawn naturally |
5145s | one of them was drawn from Belinda so he |
5147s | knew there was at least one spell in |
5149s | half I knew there was one yeah yeah |
5150s | there was one Rune in here yeah right |
5152s | okay which I think is probably tips over |
5155s | the line of being fine so I think if you |
5156s | know that two spells are in hand and one |
5158s | of them gets cast for zero because of |
5160s | the calicos then that's actually lethal |
5163s | very often right in that situation |
5165s | because of the pings coming out from the |
5167s | other Dragon but in the case where you |
5169s | only know about one it's probably more |
5171s | understandable he wanted to milk the |
5172s | more dress for more value still a huge |
5174s | risk I'd put it in the category of |
5176s | um because the ability to clear the |
5178s | majority of that board was definitely |
5179s | there |
5181s | um but still really really interesting |
5182s | position and Bunny Hopper just getting |
5183s | the beautiful outcome with the generated |
5185s | skeletons from the deathborn uh then set |
5188s | up with the breath from his own hand |
5189s | which can hit friendly minions spotted |
5191s | instantly by bunny Hopper and that means |
5194s | he goes one one game away from taking |
5195s | this series |
5197s | yeah very nicely done |
5200s | and you know like even just like one |
5202s | like like a first flame cast or |
5205s | something you know I was like yeah yeah |
5206s | it's there's a lot of ways to just add |
5209s | like just a couple of cheap spells to |
5211s | the hand you just have to not cast a |
5213s | mask in order to |
5216s | like first first spell Mass polymorph |
5218s | all right well there goes that plan yep |
5221s | um but nice little spot by bunny now |
5223s | last Decker mid-range Shaman probably |
5225s | the deck that I have the least amount of |
5226s | faith in but |
5229s | as Raven would say if you play glug you |
5233s | you win there's just not a deck that |
5237s | deals with glug right now like it just |
5239s | doesn't happen well I'm pretty sure in |
5242s | the Raven lore right there are certain |
5243s | things that exist in Raven like you know |
5245s | if your opponent plays scale of inyxia |
5248s | you lose the game immediately I'm pretty |
5250s | sure that if you play glug you win |
5251s | because it's unkillable is against |
5253s | Hunter specifically in Raven lore and |
5256s | not against the rest of the field |
5257s | necessarily but if you think about it |
5260s | yeah maybe not Mage |
5262s | um because Mage just is one of the best |
5265s | deck said dealing with minions in |
5267s | general even if they just freeze it |
5268s | forever but like I look across at some |
5271s | of the other decks of the metagame it's |
5272s | like how do you ever kill the glug |
5276s | um you have to have like a very specific |
5278s | set of cards in order to do it uh |
5282s | wherein glug is just one card just I |
5285s | have seven Mana I play my glog |
5290s | Raven lore Jesus |
5295s | is this how far we've Fallen |
5299s | let me check the book of Raven law |
5305s | proclaims that glug only beats Hunter oh |
5308s | no Raven actually currently confirming |
5310s | is especially against Hunter but in |
5313s | general too shattering |
5317s | I feel like Raven doesn't even control |
5319s | Raven lore anymore he he's just a |
5322s | preacher of it but he he just takes his |
5324s | own interpretations from the book of |
5326s | ravenlore I mean Raven doesn't even |
5328s | control how his own surname is |
5330s | pronounced so I don't know if you have |
5332s | high expectations of what he's actually |
5334s | in control of |
5335s | ghouli |
5340s | the whales of these covers chill me |
5353s | is that like |
5356s | is there just a one-up frame stir in |
5359s | this timeline is it really happening |
5361s | yeah it was it was even highlighted in |
5364s | the key cards TJ that's in there so I |
5368s | was playing some like I was playing some |
5370s | Arena last week and framester for some |
5372s | reason is offered like a lot as a choice |
5374s | in Arena and uh I was like huh this |
5377s | car's a pretty good Arena card |
5380s | oh you get framed oh it's so good get |
5384s | framed idiot it's just a three bed of |
5387s | three three |
5391s | well TJ's having a good time I'm glad |
5399s | you know if you just draw it as a |
5401s | one-off in your 40 card deck and you |
5402s | slam it on curve and then your opponent |
5404s | immediately draws the framed cards from |
5406s | their deck because they're playing 30 |
5408s | card deck like an idiot obviously if |
5409s | they were playing a 40 card deck like a |
5411s | genius they'd have so many cards in |
5414s | their deck that they wouldn't draw the |
5416s | framed cards why wouldn't you play |
5425s | strictly an advantage yeah imagine just |
5429s | voluntarily pyroblasting yourself in the |
5431s | face at the start of the game teacher I |
5433s | know |
5434s | he's got three minutes oh geez this is |
5438s | great |
5441s | it's the best card in the game |
5444s | but he's a genius |
5452s | oh my gosh |
5455s | this is great |
5457s | this is the best day ever |
5463s | it's just 11 damage on board TJ have you |
5466s | noticed I know |
5468s | in lovestorm still only has four Mana |
5470s | next turn |
5479s | presumably this one has to be minion |
5493s | I don't hate the trade here |
5497s | funny says no however |
5502s | just dead |
5505s | we didn't get framed I know you can go |
5507s | he can go Finley |
5510s | um okay yeah |
5516s | kind of the perfect solution because you |
5518s | coin first so there's no way you just |
5520s | fully play yourself in this situation |
5523s | right yeah you just put you just play |
5524s | the Finley and it works you get the |
5526s | knowledge first |
5529s | what is happening |
5531s | the animation you mean |
5533s | just like a Maelstrom yeah there's just |
5536s | a thinly hole |
5539s | the board |
5541s | oh no farted come on go in there yup |
5545s | there we go |
5547s | laughs |
5548s | she just broke |
5551s | he broke our Stone |
5554s | the entire world just got disconnected |
5556s | from Hearthstone right now Finley Love |
5559s | Story opened up a love story exactly he |
5562s | ripped a hole in the space-time |
5563s | Continuum and caused the IRL love storm |
5567s | and then Varden just plummeted into it |
5569s | and the world could not handle it |
5571s | anymore |
5585s | do I have to deal with board at some |
5587s | point |
5589s | yep |
5590s | and hi buddy Albert could just go for um |
5595s | macaw in this instance |
5599s | true or ah I don't know maybe just |
5603s | mutinous just play make your strongest |
5604s | play and then McCall with the muteness |
5607s | is just so good in general against Mage |
5610s | right mutinous the atar effects like |
5612s | getting rid of those key minions the |
5613s | minions are so individually powerful |
5616s | particularly when you get to this point |
5617s | in the game where you know the likes of |
5619s | the dungeoneers and so on will be played |
5621s | already like you're you're getting |
5623s | Reckless Apprentice quality cards or |
5625s | better most of the time with a mutants |
5627s | and I'll do |
5630s | yep |
5632s | next turn you just do it again |
5639s | if there even is a next turn right |
5642s | yeah love storm currently does have to |
5645s | find the solution |
5646s | making that beer next turn |
5653s | crazy it just might work |
5658s | in terms of spells played the dawn grass |
5660s | would just cast a wildfire in either a |
5666s | I know Wildfire Frozen Touch Arcade |
5668s | intellect that's it |
5670s | one of each |
5673s | been in tighter scrapes Reno |
5679s | it might have to be that |
5684s | I mean even just as a five armor right |
5686s | five armor and potentially a flurry from |
5689s | the draw |
5690s | true yeah |
5695s | [Music] |
5698s | no it's back |
5699s | the Finley hole has returned |
5705s | have an idea |
5709s | oh Flory |
5716s | 18 days |
5723s | just being drawn towards the love storm |
5727s | it just looks so bright and well look |
5730s | directly into the love storm t-shirt |
5743s | just eat another one |
5746s | um |
5750s | okay |
5752s | hasn't been nearly enough pings right |
5754s | from more trash |
5755s | nope |
5758s | in fact maybe not any |
5761s | it is not Juiced |
5773s | okay gotta look for another Beast |
5778s | old life Drinker oh yeah what you love |
5782s | to see it |
5784s | that's actually lethal setup with the |
5787s | life trigger yeah as long as there is a |
5789s | board space available and there isn't a |
5791s | solid Alibi and a full freeze |
5794s | yeah |
5796s | which is a very difficult thing to do |
5798s | yes it actually |
5803s | get the honorable Kill by being his own |
5805s | face |
5806s | now it's at uh four now |
5809s | so actually while |
5812s | right yeah cause wildfire and then well |
5814s | uh more Yep so reckless Apprentice |
5822s | and then the caverns were played first |
5824s | so it will kill the Macaw but then the |
5827s | life trigger from hand |
5830s | yeah full phase four to a stag and then |
5832s | five to everything else will be the full |
5834s | clear but then that light Drinker is |
5835s | gonna pick it up I don't think yeah all |
5838s | right buddy I don't think life Drinker |
5839s | was necessarily the intended pickup but |
5843s | there was a couple of good outs there |
5844s | right like life Drinker definitely one |
5845s | of them but he may have considered it as |
5847s | well uh but obviously Beast can give you |
5849s | smothering starfish as well right which |
5851s | is another very useful way that you can |
5853s | get out of situations like that where |
5855s | your opponent's just going to freeze |
5856s | down your board instead with flurries |
5858s | and location and whatever else so kind |
5860s | of two for one value there if bunny was |
5862s | specifically looking for that live |
5864s | Drinker then congratulations you |
5865s | absolutely hit it but uh yeah for Khan |
5868s | off the top so yeah |
5871s | he played the life trigger just to let |
5873s | love sort know how smart he is exactly |
5875s | yeah I mean he he played the love |
5877s | Drinker to let love storm know how smart |
5879s | he is and he gave the old Temple tap to |
5880s | let us know how smart he is you know |
5882s | like you've got to make it clear to |
5883s | everyone and all while avoiding |
5886s | plummeting into the love storm that's on |
5888s | the board as well it could be extra |
5890s | commended so yeah really clean Series in |
5893s | the end from bunny Hopper I said it |
5895s | after game one right it was a brutal |
5897s | game one nothing really happening for |
5899s | the deck with Rogue uh but I think bunny |
5901s | a an experiencing a player being |
5904s | experienced enough jackpot Rogue player |
5906s | to know that's what he signed himself up |
5909s | for by bringing that deck to this |
5911s | tournament right like that will that |
5913s | will have happened in one game in this |
5915s | tournament on average right the entirely |
5917s | made up numbers but those games happen |
5919s | with that deck where you just break and |
5921s | nothing happens so I think if your |
5923s | preparation is strong you should |
5925s | understand that that's not a big deal |
5926s | and if anything else to get it out of |
5928s | the way in the very first game of the |
5930s | tournament and then sweep the rest of at |
5931s | the series you know might feel like |
5933s | bunny Hopper as being in a in a good |
5935s | position overall but jackpot Rogue in |
5938s | the end getting the job done with a very |
5939s | very powerful uh game straight |
5941s | afterwards and then that frame stuff in |
5944s | the in the shaman TJ absolutely good |
5947s | absolutely hard carried that game |
5951s | just a one-up framester just thrown in |
5954s | there 40 card deck trials it two frames |
5958s | in the first three three turns after it |
5961s | was played one all from a dungeoneer |
5965s | ah unbelievable unbelievable very cool |
5968s | uh series though uh a lot of |
5972s | a lot of fun stuff it's it's just so |
5974s | refreshing after yesterday which was |
5976s | just Tempo Rogue and imp warlock like |
5979s | all incurs were like like all day |
5982s | um it's just nice to see uh |
5984s | nice to see some fell fires in the hole |
5986s | you know just a good old fell fire in |
5988s | the hole a good old Findlay hole |
5991s | good old framester right this is this is |
5994s | what we're here for this is what we're |
5996s | here for right okay you caught look you |
6000s | can't Riff on the idea of holes and then |
6003s | naturally pass the conversation to me |
6004s | and expect me not to get fired in this |
6006s | situation okay TJ that's that's why I |
6009s | was like I was about to go to a break I |
6011s | was like okay let's all have a follow-up |
6012s | on this |
6013s | I got I just gotta move on I gotta move |
6016s | on and they're telling me right now |
6017s | there they go yeah go out of it they're |
6019s | like get out yeah |
6022s | um they care about you sovel that's |
6023s | that's basically what what they're |
6025s | saying they care about you they want you |
6026s | to keep casting Hearthstone uh but yeah |
6028s | that's only our first match of the day |
6030s | in the books uh by this time yesterday |
6031s | Abu Gaba was already done playing to |
6033s | Otis group |
6034s | um so we have a lot in store for today |
6037s | before we jump into the second initial |
6039s | match uh of Group C here we are gonna |
6041s | have to go to a quick break but don't go |
6042s | anywhere lots more action to come here |
6044s | from the fall Championship right after |
6046s | this |
6048s | foreign |
6055s | [Music] |
6063s | [Music] |
6069s | [Music] |
6081s | foreign |
6084s | [Music] |
6122s | thank you |
6124s | [Music] |
6144s | foreign |
6147s | [Music] |
6174s | foreign |
6176s | [Music] |
6200s | foreign |
6205s | foreign |
6207s | [Music] |
6239s | foreign |
6241s | [Music] |
6258s | welcome back everybody to the Masters |
6260s | Tour full championship and already |
6262s | setting the pace for the day is going to |
6265s | be a very different speed to how he |
6268s | rattled through yesterday and with me |
6270s | today it's not Flamingo Friday anymore |
6272s | it's summer Saturday I guess from Derek |
6275s | how's it going Derek good uh excited to |
6278s | be jumping back into the action today |
6280s | and uh I think you laid it out pretty |
6282s | well the meta today looking very |
6284s | different from what we saw uh from |
6287s | yesterday where it was you know pretty |
6290s | aggressive not super aggro only really |
6292s | seeing |
6293s | um habugabu and |
6296s | uh tansoku going for the full-on aggro |
6299s | lineup where today things taking a much |
6300s | more slow pace overall and we're also |
6304s | getting a better look at some of our |
6305s | APAC Representatives uh here today with |
6309s | uh zochi and uh ayojiru uh Suchi I |
6313s | believe being our lone South Korean |
6315s | representative here at the uh the full |
6317s | championships uh whereas there whereas |
6320s | sorry there is of course a very strong |
6322s | Japanese representation further |
6325s | bolstered by aojiru today yeah the |
6328s | Japanese representation just gets larger |
6330s | and larger every tournament it seems I |
6332s | remember casting the the Japan cup when |
6334s | they had a big celebration of course |
6336s | Japan was about two years behind in |
6338s | getting their own language version the |
6339s | client and I think you were with me who |
6341s | did the Japan cup it was like a big deal |
6343s | and one or two Japanese players were |
6345s | quite good and we thought oh yeah yeah |
6346s | it might be quite good in the future oh |
6348s | my I don't think we expected how great |
6350s | that whole nature is going to be at this |
6352s | point they are just dominating the scene |
6355s | at the moment |
6360s | even more ridiculous yeah it's true and |
6363s | the thing is it's not only like they |
6364s | have good BG's and good standard players |
6366s | it's like they're the same people a lot |
6368s | of the time dominating both like Aloo |
6370s | temu being very emblematic uh of that uh |
6373s | but as we can see here zochi uh from |
6375s | what we can gather pretty well known in |
6376s | the Korean speaking Hearthstone scene uh |
6380s | but to to me a little bit less so |
6382s | admittedly haven't seen uh not all too |
6384s | familiar with him because you know with |
6386s | the 4242 record of Master swords we're |
6388s | not seeing too much of him towards the |
6391s | top of those Masters tours in the top 16 |
6392s | where players get very very memorable uh |
6395s | however the top 16 |
6397s | um uh murder at Castle nathria and of |
6399s | course having made it through with a |
6401s | 17-8 record very impressively through to |
6404s | here today uh does I think show Got What |
6408s | It Takes and I'm curious to see him in |
6410s | action with him being one of the few |
6412s | players to have this kind of full-on |
6414s | aggressive lineup here today that served |
6417s | our players pretty well yesterday right |
6419s | habugabu in particular yeah I think it |
6423s | might be a different story today it will |
6424s | be interesting to see because they're |
6425s | sort of smashing into each other |
6427s | yesterday to some degree in Habu gabri |
6429s | just went even faster whereas today |
6432s | there is a good smattering in in both |
6434s | groups of a slightly more controlling |
6436s | looking lineups um so it'll be |
6438s | interesting to see just how good these |
6439s | decks are very similar sort of stuff to |
6441s | yesterday you see the curse warlock |
6443s | basically in every lineup there's gonna |
6445s | be one or two exceptions that I'm sure |
6446s | but yeah it is kind of the meta-defining |
6450s | deck as you mentioned yesterday |
6453s | exactly yeah uh I was listening to a |
6456s | little bit of the uh the coverage the uh |
6459s | hunts race is doing at the end of the |
6460s | day yesterday where he's doing like a |
6461s | kind of alternative watch party with |
6463s | some of the uh uh the other uh players |
6466s | and Abu gabou was dropping in and they |
6468s | basically just spent like 20 minutes |
6469s | just trashing on warlock just like this |
6472s | infersible look is garbage you should |
6474s | never ever bring it and so far I mean |
6477s | they are being Vindicated it would look |
6479s | like because it has definitely been |
6480s | struggling despite being the as I said |
6483s | The Meta defining deck in my opinion uh |
6486s | but taking a look at aogira not to brush |
6487s | over him too much as he is not only a a |
6491s | very prolific player uh but also a |
6494s | Caster as well which he wouldn't need us |
6496s | to tell you just uh because that jacket |
6498s | that you can see in his picture and his |
6500s | attire that he wears when on camera |
6501s | while playing tells you everything you |
6504s | should know taking a a leaf out of |
6506s | frodan's book and just looking |
6507s | impeccable every time he comes on camera |
6510s | and we love to see it players making an |
6513s | effort and uh repping the casters |
6516s | showing that we got what it takes uh or |
6519s | at least you know Gia did before she did |
6522s | retired yeah yeah she's still retired |
6525s | yet we have until um at the end of the |
6527s | year I think before we we fully |
6530s | um have to depart with Gia but uh well |
6533s | yeah it's intense depends on any given |
6537s | day but you're largely speaking indeed |
6540s | uh go to open up with this ping Mage |
6544s | um what can we even say about it that |
6546s | hasn't been said this this starts to |
6549s | look more and more settled as a deck as |
6551s | time has gone by to the point now where |
6553s | there's there's nothing at all |
6555s | surprising in there well there is a |
6557s | shattering blast uh which is a very |
6559s | spicy Tech uh in my opinion and to see |
6562s | Finley not being the card cut uh is also |
6566s | quite uh interesting to me I can very |
6568s | much see where they're coming from I |
6569s | think a lot of these decks uh sorry Mage |
6571s | as subtle was laying out does not remove |
6573s | minions its removal is absolutely |
6575s | atrocious the only thing it can really |
6578s | do being stall which while that is you |
6581s | know reasonably good most of the time |
6582s | being able to chew through big minions |
6585s | from buff priest Naga priest in |
6588s | particular very very important and you |
6591s | know actually killing minions against |
6592s | Zoo can be a pretty big deal as well |
6595s | because what you can just kill them off |
6596s | to stall for as long as possible they |
6598s | can still make use of Minions on the |
6600s | board even if they're frozen mainly |
6602s | through the use of impending catastrophe |
6604s | to draw the rest of their deck so I'm |
6608s | curious to see how the the tech will |
6611s | work out for aogiri as we say uh hello |
6614s | to you too |
6618s | I'm a big fan of Finley in a lot of |
6620s | decks at the moment I think because |
6623s | there's so many fast decks just sort of |
6625s | snowball if you don't keep removing |
6627s | stuff as you just described I think that |
6629s | Finley is now using it's it's kind of |
6631s | intended purpose of don't like this hand |
6633s | give me a new one at the cost of a card |
6637s | um and I think that panic button for the |
6639s | slightly slower decks I want to call |
6640s | them all slow but the the slightly |
6643s | slower decks I think they need a panic |
6645s | button now I think they need to go okay |
6646s | I just need to find X immediately |
6649s | whereas in the previous metas maybe not |
6651s | so much because the decks are a bit |
6652s | slower you had time to sort of just draw |
6654s | your cards naturally so I kind of like |
6656s | it at the minute |
6657s | I agree yeah yeah I would not |
6660s | like to cut thinly from the deck like in |
6662s | the ladder list that you're playing that |
6664s | doesn't need specific text I absolutely |
6665s | believe Finley deserves its place mainly |
6667s | just because turn six if you don't have |
6669s | the hero card in hand you just play |
6671s | Finley and you get a full out of five or |
6673s | six cards in order to try and find it |
6675s | which is worth uh a very large amount |
6677s | indeed uh but getting things going here |
6680s | for ajiro talking about this matchup |
6682s | more specifically which I've played |
6683s | quite a lot of on ladder I think it's |
6686s | closer to a 50 50 than most people would |
6689s | give it credit for like the default |
6690s | position is to say that warlock is in |
6692s | the lead because they have a nice |
6694s | aggressive start if they can just do |
6696s | five to ten damage in the early game is |
6698s | all they really need to do maybe closer |
6701s | to 10 to be on the safe side and then |
6703s | draw some cards with impending |
6705s | catastrophe the curse is just absolutely |
6707s | dominate the game because Mage has no |
6709s | defense against it solid Alibi does not |
6711s | work against curses in a very annoying |
6714s | interaction where bio only protects you |
6716s | on your on your opponent's turn and |
6718s | curses actually do the damage on your |
6720s | turn uh so if you don't get off to a |
6723s | very fast start the Mage is in some very |
6725s | big trouble but Hans specifically like |
6728s | this for aajiru can very much get the |
6731s | job done he's spending all his Mana he's |
6733s | got the proactive cards at the start in |
6736s | the form of minions card draw hero power |
6739s | buff with the Wildfire what he needs now |
6741s | is the stall so that these minions can |
6744s | start going face because even as early |
6747s | as now on turn three you want to be |
6749s | setting your sights on getting that |
6751s | counter lethal as quick as as quick as |
6752s | you can yeah um obviously in part the |
6757s | stall is the minions but as there's not |
6759s | gonna be many more like you say |
6760s | protecting and getting them some damage |
6761s | six or seven here and there is a huge |
6764s | amount of damage always amusements won't |
6766s | so bad of Rogue in general that just a |
6768s | load of piddly little minions can get so |
6771s | much damage done so quickly when they |
6773s | get rolling but he has had to trade them |
6775s | all in he has had to |
6777s | um |
6777s | do the thing clear the board and in |
6781s | general he would expect to be in a good |
6783s | position going into next turn as well |
6784s | but as it happens uh zotia has got quite |
6788s | a lot to do here |
6789s | uh you can just dump these One Drops if |
6792s | he feels like it on the board |
6795s | kind of interesting right because the |
6797s | main thing that AJ would be afraid of |
6798s | his mischievous imp for just an |
6800s | immediate dump of nine nine worth of |
6802s | stats |
6804s | but Sochi can kind of make mischievous |
6807s | input home in a weird way in a weird way |
6809s | with flaming flame imp librarian and |
6812s | then you could even toss in the grimoire |
6814s | on your remaining imp on the board if |
6816s | you wanted to clear things up and then |
6818s | you have three three attack Minions on |
6821s | the board that are attacking for quite a |
6822s | lot of damage and basically some form of |
6826s | heavy development on this turn is |
6828s | definitely what you should be looking at |
6829s | and it leaves aegiro in |
6832s | a tough spot he came so close to getting |
6835s | that dream start I was talking about |
6836s | where you can just start freezing the |
6838s | board launching all your burned face but |
6840s | she was just a little bit too efficient |
6843s | in this early game and so now we're |
6845s | looking in the kind of position where |
6846s | Frozen touches need to be used on |
6848s | minions or flurries need to be used |
6851s | before they've upgraded to rank two it's |
6853s | like that kind of awkward spot where |
6855s | you're so close to Breaking Free but not |
6858s | quite yet yeah and again that was so |
6860s | important that he had that board for the |
6862s | start of the game but one more turn |
6863s | would have been so huge |
6866s | um and this is gonna be a huge turn as |
6868s | well this the two cards that's actually |
6870s | likely to draw here are going to be |
6872s | absolutely vital because he is out of |
6874s | stuff the flame imps you know not really |
6877s | going to cut it going forwards |
6879s | and this is going to be the crucial turn |
6882s | in game one I think coming up |
6885s | air Jerry with a very tempting looking |
6887s | flurry here I have to say even though |
6889s | it's |
6890s | underwhelming compared to what flurry |
6892s | can do you have savara in hand and |
6896s | getting another flurry back is pretty |
6898s | good I would say at this point when you |
6900s | can just go flurry flurry on turn five |
6902s | and probably freeze their entire board |
6904s | or the vast majority of it |
6907s | Grand flaming flaming go take 12 horn |
6910s | now we're talking |
6913s | do you do though I think you just have |
6915s | to tap and see where you're at |
6919s | yeah I agree I mean you know could go |
6922s | imp bran yeah uh talking seriously but |
6925s | uh I just don't think you have enough to |
6927s | go alongside that we're getting to that |
6930s | point in the matchup where we'd rather |
6931s | say this brand for uh lady dark vein |
6934s | just yeah and a huge burst of damage |
6937s | this might even just be location and go |
6940s | and then wave the turn after and then |
6942s | start developing again turn seven which |
6944s | is where you start having to think are |
6946s | my curse is really going to do it which |
6947s | they are by the way but you start having |
6950s | to panic a little bit here as the as the |
6952s | wall up |
6953s | if you're going to go for that game plan |
6957s | and now things starting to look a lot |
6959s | more interesting for aogiro where both |
6962s | his minions stuck on the board in this |
6963s | town because of his very aggressive use |
6966s | of the flurry |
6968s | and he can actually start looking at |
6970s | just sending these minions face pretty |
6972s | soon stalling out the game the fact he's |
6974s | one minion off being able to play an |
6976s | activated savara really does hurt |
6978s | because he'd love to get those flurries |
6980s | again for this turn |
6982s | um but the the headline is his opponent |
6985s | is getting kind of low like he can get |
6986s | them down to |
6988s | what 15 lower if you want to do on this |
6991s | turn even which is really quite a |
6994s | precarious Health total for zochi to be |
6996s | on |
6997s | stop |
7000s | decision time as well now because it's |
7002s | wave turn coming up double trade kind of |
7005s | plays around that but that five to face |
7007s | like you've just described is so |
7008s | tempting |
7011s | face like you could trade the librarian |
7013s | sure but uh the Syracuse I'm very much |
7016s | not |
7017s | interested in trading and I think ajiri |
7019s | is the aggressor here with two flurries |
7021s | in his Commander savara just no more |
7023s | minion damages getting faced from here |
7025s | on in |
7028s | I think that makes me interested here is |
7030s | he saw the tap last turn which is a bit |
7032s | of a wave signal |
7034s | but yeah he's going to hit face |
7037s | it's worse against the clears admittedly |
7039s | your opponent can trade into the |
7041s | Reckless apprentice and then go |
7044s | Abyssal wave or I guess Tams and it's |
7047s | not quite so bad in terms of the clears |
7049s | but I yeah as I said I just think this |
7052s | is more important at this point for |
7053s | ajiro who needs to get aggressive before |
7056s | the curses start stacking up too heavily |
7061s | yeah |
7063s | looks like easy enough wave turn what's |
7065s | the other option that I'm missing |
7069s | meanwhile doesn't seem to cut it brand |
7071s | doesn't seem to cut it tap seems |
7073s | terrifying |
7079s | both players really trying to do the the |
7082s | napkin maths on whether or not they are |
7084s | the aggressor or whether they're allowed |
7086s | to be the aggressor uh if they want to |
7089s | try and force it a little bit because |
7090s | it's actually here you could go face and |
7092s | play a bit nice absolutely you get four |
7095s | more damage in right you're getting the |
7096s | curses stacked up but then you gotta |
7099s | tank three more if your opponent has a |
7101s | frozen touch in hand you are in so much |
7103s | I said nice because I like The Bravery |
7106s | not because I agreed with the play Just |
7108s | to be clear here I'm not saying if it's |
7109s | right or wrong but um I personally trade |
7112s | there because I'm a coward but |
7114s | as you ever showed last term that he |
7116s | feels he's the aggressor and so she's |
7118s | got to be really sure to double down the |
7120s | other way on that against an unknown |
7122s | eight cards |
7126s | old case do you not want to go Commander |
7128s | Safara here because it puts you up to 10 |
7131s | cards in hand so your opponent can't put |
7133s | any curses |
7137s | kills me I kill you |
7141s | sure yeah yeah okay because I guess |
7143s | these are likely to reactivate the |
7144s | Frozen touches right |
7149s | in the |
7151s | uh tams in to be able to gain a little |
7152s | bit of Health clear up the board stop |
7154s | him from just tying immediately on the |
7156s | following turn |
7162s | ER did with that play you can see it |
7164s | sort of unfolding now he's just kept all |
7165s | that Tempo on his side |
7170s | there's so much counting when you're |
7172s | playing with Slash against warlock right |
7173s | you're constantly going to three plus |
7175s | four plus five and I'm on this and |
7177s | where's where's the extra damage |
7179s | it it's kind of pure HearthStone for me |
7184s | a bit of everything you've got to get |
7185s | the temp on the board you've got to keep |
7186s | your wits about you you might die but |
7188s | you're not going to take some crazy |
7190s | death out of the blue like you might |
7191s | against other decks you can usually |
7193s | calculate your worst case I love it |
7196s | and not quite fill up his hand with |
7201s | Bells unfortunately we can leave only |
7203s | one hand space I believe which is a |
7206s | pretty big difference again you're |
7207s | getting to that point where you're |
7208s | expecting lady dark vein with Abyssal |
7211s | wave being the last spell played or |
7213s | brands are cool yeah and therefore |
7217s | I kind of like the idea of just savaro |
7219s | send a frozen touch face and your |
7221s | opponent is gonna have to heal for a |
7223s | crazy |
7224s | amount of Health if they want to be |
7226s | surviving that but is he counting that |
7228s | he's just got two turned lethal if he |
7229s | doesn't yeah if he just goes for it now |
7232s | I think that might be what he's counting |
7233s | out it's really close |
7235s | it is close I mean Touches at The |
7238s | Apprentice and the pink face and another |
7240s | yeah yeah yeah next turn it's it's |
7241s | clocking along |
7246s | um |
7247s | that's true he gets one more damage face |
7250s | with this way and uh well not a 3-5 |
7252s | because savara would have put one in |
7253s | play anyway |
7255s | um but like the point is if you play |
7256s | Savari you can just spend all your mana |
7258s | on Frozen Touches for the rest of the |
7259s | game right you're never gonna run out |
7261s | really at that point here we go he's got |
7264s | to be right |
7268s | yeah well it is the downside of this |
7271s | play is your opponent can heal up for |
7273s | quite a lot they get to 13 which is out |
7277s | of range of killing them |
7279s | with uh with frozen touches |
7283s | right you can only deal 12. yep |
7286s | now he has to go back to plan B that |
7287s | you've discussed all along as plan a |
7289s | which could well have been plan a which |
7290s | is get my hand full up it's so crazy |
7294s | really interesting spot |
7297s | obviously with a double cursing hand you |
7299s | can afford to fill his hand and still |
7301s | draw next turn that's sometimes relevant |
7303s | sometimes you just want the damage out |
7304s | of there though |
7311s | put a more dress lethal available if he |
7314s | doesn't die over the course of two turns |
7316s | but the not dying parts starting to look |
7318s | awkward it's quite tough isn't it |
7320s | especially as actually killing this uh |
7322s | zakul as opposed to freezing it is is |
7325s | very difficult |
7327s | you have to like play the shattering |
7329s | blast or you know ping plus Frozen touch |
7331s | it yeah and this is what you were |
7333s | talking about which is you know he |
7334s | didn't have to go for this oh |
7337s | feels awful I I just get the suspicion |
7340s | that |
7340s | ajiro didn't make use of the fact that |
7342s | he could have completely filled up his |
7344s | hands yeah for up to nine cards uh which |
7347s | could have played around this a little |
7348s | more heavily yeah you were definitely |
7350s | advocating for it and you can see now in |
7351s | action why |
7353s | why are you advocating for it look at |
7355s | the the problem she's caused himself |
7357s | wave |
7361s | that's it yeah five and six I think |
7365s | I think so yeah exactly five and six and |
7369s | again even on on this turn like he could |
7371s | have deliberately well this time was a |
7374s | little bit tougher actually I think |
7375s | maybe there wasn't a way to to stop |
7377s | precisely this hand but I was looking at |
7379s | leaving the minions in play playing |
7381s | savara and then freezing them with the |
7384s | flurry that you would have gotten |
7385s | because then even if you leave one of |
7387s | the curses in hand |
7389s | you're taking three damage but you're |
7391s | not taking five or six damage because |
7392s | it's a smaller curse that's in your your |
7394s | hand for an extra turn very very |
7396s | interesting game actually to to start |
7398s | things off between such an age you and |
7400s | one that I I do have the suspicion that |
7403s | AJ could have won yeah if you just if he |
7405s | takes the safer like I was all four it's |
7407s | like wow what's the chance there's |
7408s | brands are cool there he'll be fine he's |
7410s | got lethal coming up but he |
7412s | may be I think your way the more I look |
7414s | at it it's just well you've got the two |
7415s | turn lethal or the three turn lethal |
7417s | however you want to Define that anyway |
7418s | so why not just take Ryan you'll be safe |
7420s | because you've got the guaranteed win it |
7423s | doesn't matter when you win so yeah uh |
7426s | You've Won me around there having seen |
7427s | that in action I'm glad we've got to see |
7428s | it in action as well but zochi with the |
7431s | 1-0 lead and it will continue this Demon |
7433s | Hunter deck that yesterday was a |
7437s | catastrophic choice but |
7439s | this is not the Relic version right this |
7441s | is just a straight up aggro which is a |
7443s | bit better |
7445s | yeah indeed |
7447s | um man sorry I'm still trying to work |
7449s | today I promise I will move on I think |
7451s | is like I just want to be fair to him I |
7453s | do think his line of play in The |
7455s | Apprentice did actually give him lethal |
7456s | around touch of the Nath resin which my |
7459s | line maybe did not which is uh a very |
7462s | worthy point so you know when you do you |
7464s | play around one thing you stop playing |
7466s | around the other I'm sure there are |
7467s | positives and negatives to to either |
7469s | Play It's just with that specific |
7471s | outcome an alternate line would have |
7473s | been better but perhaps for ajiru to be |
7475s | fair to him he was playing around |
7476s | something else but moving on to game two |
7478s | as you said with the uh the aggro Demon |
7480s | Hunter versus the Mage a uh a deck that |
7483s | has the Mage I'm pretty sure I would be |
7485s | a little more scared to play against |
7487s | than the The Relic version which is a |
7491s | lot a lot slower by comparison Derek the |
7494s | leading |
7495s | um opponent of hating on Relic Demon |
7499s | Hunter |
7500s | and backed up quite well yesterday with |
7502s | the stats of it just losing every I |
7505s | didn't see the last series I don't think |
7506s | but losing every game where it wasn't a |
7508s | mirror match before that at that point |
7511s | it's absolutely ridiculous yeah it was |
7515s | the aggro version was played by Habu and |
7518s | yeah it was a bit different bam hit |
7519s | people yeah tansoku was admittedly |
7522s | struggling for a while as well uh losing |
7525s | three in a row versus uh Glory but I |
7528s | felt like some pretty rough draws to to |
7529s | have helped him along uh but Versace |
7531s | this is looking like a real nice |
7533s | starting hand but uh plenty of early |
7536s | tempos and a real nice uh refill on the |
7540s | sightless magistrate of course |
7541s | afterwards but that all has to contest |
7543s | with once again perfect Mana expenditure |
7547s | from aajiru for most likely the first |
7549s | four turns of the game at least |
7551s | yeah this is something I have really |
7553s | missed in Hearthstone that's only I feel |
7555s | come back in the last sort of set or so |
7557s | which is opponent does something really |
7560s | hard to deal with how do you hang on |
7562s | against it for a few turns like just a |
7564s | 5-4 wedged out in the very start of the |
7567s | game can I build a board can I freeze it |
7570s | enough can I sort of stabilize I think |
7572s | that's something that we haven't had for |
7574s | a while it's just been people |
7576s | slowly developing boards with the |
7578s | exception of a couple of classes of |
7580s | course but I love this sort of play |
7584s | can hold it off for the moment right |
7587s | yeah scary of course this board |
7590s | but with uh Knight cloak sanctum on the |
7593s | next turn to freeze it once again |
7594s | Apprentice on turn four and then plus a |
7596s | trade from the skeleton should be able |
7598s | to clear it off as well it's uh |
7601s | I am perfect start to the game don't |
7603s | have to clear off immediately just have |
7605s | to not take 20 damage from this stupid |
7607s | thing you'll be okay for a while |
7611s | is the the mini combo that Demon Hunter |
7613s | has this sort of empty your hand fill it |
7615s | up thing going on at the moment I'm not |
7617s | sure how strong it is at the moment one |
7618s | of those things we will keep an eye on |
7619s | though these cards are going to be |
7620s | around for another year it's one of |
7623s | those things that eventually will |
7624s | probably just break and be really really |
7626s | really ridiculous |
7628s | okay now we want to look a little bit |
7631s | more optimistically uh at this Reckless |
7634s | Apprentice just slamming it on turn four |
7635s | uh it doesn't feel quite worth it |
7638s | anymore as I am much more liking the |
7640s | idea of getting both of these wildfires |
7642s | down and they're getting a three damage |
7644s | AOE alongside it with a magic Dawn grasp |
7647s | to follow up as well as there's a pretty |
7649s | big 50 50 coming up in order to be able |
7651s | to clear the board and I think from |
7653s | aogir is slightly preemptive reaction we |
7655s | can guess the result yeah |
7658s | yeah he doesn't hide much does he I love |
7661s | to play him at poker |
7663s | just get down he starts dancing on the |
7666s | table |
7670s | okay so that's the initial wave dealt |
7673s | with which obviously is is fantastic |
7675s | news for Asia still on 30 with Dawn |
7678s | glass which you pointed out in hand and |
7681s | Sochi really needs to |
7683s | decide now whether there's any other |
7685s | plan B the plan a just keep making waves |
7689s | of stuff and hoping they don't get |
7690s | destroyed Plan B may be something |
7692s | involving fell spells |
7695s | yeah so he sung twice so far this game |
7698s | which makes the the kirchers demons hmm |
7701s | three fours but I guess you have a |
7704s | pretty easy way to swing again on this |
7705s | turn with just yeah slithers beer |
7707s | barrage metamorphic swing as well he |
7710s | starts dumping your hand and just sets |
7712s | up for the best possible catchers and |
7714s | this is kind of what I meant by I called |
7716s | it Plan B but not just mindlessly |
7718s | playing your biggest thing and hoping it |
7720s | gets there actually |
7722s | accepting you're playing it's Mage your |
7724s | big stuff probably isn't getting there |
7726s | you've got to play a longer game now |
7729s | foreign |
7731s | ER is making out by slamming the AI uh |
7735s | probably I would end up on the same game |
7736s | plan just to get it in the pool for Dawn |
7738s | grass meant to be a little bit more Mana |
7739s | efficient on this turn but Reckless |
7741s | Apprentice was still tempting here just |
7743s | to get a 3-5 in play |
7746s | but I guess when you factor in the |
7749s | cartridge is very possibly going to come |
7751s | down on this |
7752s | yeah |
7754s | makes sense |
7756s | okay |
7758s | of Being Greedy with a Curtis size is |
7761s | all I can go for here |
7765s | I mean even bigger minions because he's |
7767s | got so little stuff left in his hand |
7770s | I know he's going to refill it again |
7781s | hopefully draw |
7785s | because that's his first Frost spell I |
7788s | believe |
7789s | um oh okay yeah which means that for for |
7791s | next turn no matter how big the board |
7793s | well I would say no matter how big but |
7795s | up to four minions being played uh you |
7797s | can just go flurry Dawn grasp and it |
7799s | will obviously reactivate on the Battle |
7801s | Cry |
7803s | which means I'm thinking hey jira is |
7805s | looking very very safe here to the point |
7807s | where he was even playing I think with |
7809s | the idea of sending that ping face |
7810s | because he does just have Dawn grasp |
7812s | into more dressed two turns in a row |
7815s | um as on the side of caution which I do |
7817s | believe is uh prudent in this situation |
7819s | uh but it does demonstrate just how good |
7822s | of a position I think he's in here I'm |
7825s | wondering if social here is completely |
7826s | given up with winning with minions I |
7828s | want to see if this comes down which you |
7830s | would expect or if he does something |
7831s | really weird here |
7833s | I I do think minions should be his |
7836s | uh |
7838s | uh first Port of Call here because we |
7841s | can see there's flurry plus Dawn grasp |
7843s | uh zochi does not know that right from |
7845s | where he's uh it's just gonna be Dawn |
7847s | grasp with a wildfire and an AI which |
7850s | means you get to punch them for like 10 |
7852s | damage on the following turn very very |
7854s | importantly |
7856s | um with the flurry plus the dawn grass |
7857s | that's not gonna be a possibility uh but |
7859s | I do think from uh zochi's perspective |
7862s | sorry it should be million Millions |
7865s | which is getting larger it's going to at |
7868s | least make two half decent things |
7871s | you can't see spell as well giving him |
7874s | his maximum outs |
7883s | you see with a lot of damage in the next |
7885s | Double turn that the Jace does appear |
7887s | you wish to match wits with me that's |
7889s | true yeah quite a lot of felt spells |
7891s | were already played |
7896s | I have an idea the only I think it's the |
7898s | only way he's got but |
7904s | yeah I agree because the most likely |
7905s | play |
7907s | unless you find some other way to use |
7908s | your managers ends up on cartridge this |
7910s | turn |
7913s | I guess if you are afraid of more trash |
7917s | yeah this is a count and decide if he's |
7920s | got enough stuff in there to win with |
7921s | Jace next turn I think you actually |
7922s | failed barrage and just go okay I win |
7924s | with Jason next turn if it comes |
7926s | it's a really Brave call to make to give |
7928s | up on your really big courtress but |
7930s | kind of up for it |
7933s | I agreed and I I think this gives him |
7936s | stum small amount of game yeah burst uh |
7940s | versus mortaresh still specifically |
7946s | I like this |
7952s | or he may just have potential lethal |
7962s | if you prefer the lethal I think |
7965s | oddly enough |
7970s | oh he's just trying to figure out |
7971s | actually if he can get an |
7973s | honorable kill I think which |
7976s | can uh |
7980s | oh no sorry not quite not quite plus |
7982s | three and then five yeah sorry it's one |
7984s | damage off getting the honorable kill |
7985s | probably a little bit uh silly to go for |
7987s | it anyway because I think he would just |
7988s | be dying on the following turn anyway |
7989s | but I don't know worth thinking about if |
7992s | you can squeak in some extra damage that |
7994s | way paying attention to everything here |
7998s | especially as this is you know obviously |
8000s | a full trade-in uh into the more dress I |
8004s | want to say not a massive deal I think |
8006s | at this point minions have ended their |
8009s | effectiveness it's so likely they can |
8011s | just go freeze solid Alibi ping whatever |
8014s | oh to clear them all up did he have the |
8017s | other |
8018s | um |
8018s | issue here where you could have attacked |
8021s | first to get the minions up to eight |
8022s | which would kill them all just left up |
8024s | at eight four but he'd have done less |
8026s | face damage that's what a lot of that |
8027s | was about maybe yeah yeah that's what |
8029s | I'm saying is that it's yeah yeah |
8033s | because the Seven Falls never ever |
8035s | hitting face he gave up on Minion damage |
8036s | a long time ago it's just been |
8039s | trying to make sure your opponent has to |
8041s | deal with your minions knowing they're |
8042s | not going to get there and then try and |
8044s | draw Jace |
8045s | that's not a solid Alibi though which is |
8048s | pretty much the only card that aajira |
8050s | was looking for Cold Case is nice |
8052s | absolutely in order to just uh |
8057s | in a little bit of extra health |
8060s | is down to 11 cards this is a non yeah |
8062s | this is a decent chance there's I think |
8064s | a second chaos strike as well |
8068s | he's counting up the cards he's |
8070s | wondering is it cold case or is it just |
8071s | rip the frost Weaver uh the frostwave |
8074s | dungeoneer and pray that you get the |
8076s | solid Alibi because if he does |
8078s | I don't want to say wins the game but |
8080s | it's so much better than the whole case |
8082s | he should probably win at that point |
8084s | does give out to his opponent it's that |
8087s | rare situation where they both know |
8089s | what's happening here |
8091s | actually there's other out right here |
8093s | but yeah with a four armor there's not |
8095s | like the fury plus just a couple of |
8098s | attacks a couple of Buffs I mean oh wow |
8101s | how much we're looking at now five |
8105s | eight ten yes it's a good job he gave |
8108s | that four armor oh my goodness this is |
8111s | close |
8111s | anyway |
8115s | gotta look for the extra damage with the |
8117s | Glade yeah yeah is it 12 with the plus |
8119s | two oh no I think that's lethal yeah |
8121s | yeah the Glade gives him exact |
8122s | [Music] |
8124s | ly oh the plus two sure yeah yeah yeah |
8128s | I was only factoring in uh the plus head |
8131s | yeah oh my goodness oh man brutal win |
8136s | for aogiro again losing on the major up |
8139s | deck the or sorry in a game that I |
8141s | thought he was going to be taking the |
8142s | win on uh with |
8144s | what I thought was just some very solid |
8146s | draws spending all his Mana at the start |
8148s | stopping pretty much all damage from |
8150s | coming through but the uh it's closing |
8153s | the game out that's proving to be the |
8154s | trouble for ajiru once again yeah I |
8157s | think this time though it was um sochi's |
8158s | good play that got there he could have |
8160s | played courteous anytime he wanted from |
8162s | turn six onwards and even when he played |
8165s | it he put 14 damage into an 8-8 to |
8167s | maximize face damage and whilst all that |
8170s | you know turn by turn basis was |
8172s | reasonably straightforward when you can |
8174s | see both hands and you know what's going |
8175s | on to actually do it when you can't see |
8177s | both hands and just go okay I'm gonna |
8179s | forfeit my career twist this game I'm |
8182s | going to maximize damage and time I'm |
8185s | going to make these annoying boards that |
8186s | I know won't get any damage into force |
8188s | my opponent's hand to buy me more time |
8190s | and that got him the accumulation of |
8193s | damage he got to face just got in there |
8195s | exactly if he misses one damage |
8197s | throughout that game he doesn't get this |
8199s | lethal that was a super game |
8201s | and to be fair to aajiru that is pretty |
8203s | unlucky to not see a single uh solid |
8206s | Alibi with nine cards left in the deck |
8208s | and he just needed one uh to very likely |
8210s | close out the game |
8212s | um |
8214s | I would usually bring up the idea that |
8217s | you don't have to play mordresh on turn |
8219s | 8 specifically very often a way to |
8221s | squeeze out more damage in that |
8223s | situation as Mage is to go stall plus |
8226s | Ping On turn a stall plus Ping On Turn |
8229s | nine mod plus Ping On Turn ten right |
8231s | which is how you just get that little |
8233s | bit of extra damage over the next few |
8235s | turns that could have been the |
8236s | Difference Maker the problem in that |
8238s | specific instance is that that would |
8240s | have while it froze the board left a |
8243s | fossil fnatic in play which just draws |
8245s | more fell spells and bolsters their |
8246s | damage further so I do think it was the |
8248s | correct play for age here is still to |
8250s | just slam down the mordresh force your |
8252s | opponent to find an answer to it but in |
8255s | the end everything just conspiring |
8256s | against aejiru as he queues up the Mage |
8259s | for a third time and gets a good hand |
8261s | again for the third time like wildfire |
8264s | and frost three fantastic starting cards |
8267s | and even The Reckless Apprentice which |
8268s | he does hold on to can be pretty |
8271s | effective in this matchup against the |
8272s | Naga priest yeah I just want to finish |
8274s | off out what your thought from that last |
8275s | game as well like the Modric being |
8278s | played was partly zochi's setup once |
8280s | again of just saying okay here's some |
8282s | stuff you need to get rid of or you need |
8283s | to freeze or you need to set up you know |
8285s | tempting him to play the mordoresh I |
8287s | think there was a lot going on there in |
8288s | that match on both sides all right game |
8291s | number three will it be a quick 3-0 as |
8294s | yesterday or will it be a more sloth |
8296s | Affair like we saw with bunny Hopper and |
8298s | lovestorm it can't be man hey George is |
8301s | doing the absolute code that's here once |
8304s | again this is just perfect Mana |
8306s | expenditure he gets the cleanest kill |
8309s | you're ever gonna get on this Merc water |
8312s | scribe as well when he sees there's no |
8313s | wig you can just go the wildfire that |
8316s | you kept secret tempos uh snow flurry |
8319s | 100 we just want to get a head on board |
8321s | and everything is going to his way now |
8324s | this game I'd be |
8326s | I won't be staggered if he loses but |
8328s | it's gonna be a while before he's behind |
8330s | uh for sure she has a massive uphill |
8334s | climb like I like how that slowly got |
8337s | more and more clarifications it went |
8338s | away just because it went along just |
8340s | because of how today's gone in this |
8341s | match it's like yeah yeah I won't be |
8343s | staggered if you lose well I kind of no |
8345s | actually well maybe he wins but yeah I |
8348s | understand entirely I think like he's |
8350s | winning nutty here he's winning this |
8352s | game 100 I just don't want to |
8354s | underestimate one how bad Mage has been |
8357s | this series so far yeah and two uh what |
8360s | Naga priest can do because you know as |
8363s | far ahead as aegiro may be on board Sam |
8365s | are off the top and we're back to square |
8367s | one we can start the game again yeah |
8372s | but she already |
8374s | deep in the tank trying to work out how |
8375s | to make any of this work for him when |
8377s | you're behind on board as this as this |
8379s | priest deck it is I find it such a |
8381s | complicated difficult day especially |
8382s | your opponent can just freeze the thing |
8384s | you do as a worst case scenario right |
8386s | you've got to get them to that spot |
8387s | before you even have the worst case |
8388s | scenario |
8399s | wow okay very interesting play here I |
8401s | was gonna say for here with that |
8404s | my instinct was to say that just |
8406s | damaging this minion was good enough |
8407s | rather than necessarily killing it |
8410s | because |
8412s | you know a uh a treasure guard is very |
8414s | very threatening at a one five stat body |
8416s | in this deck but they don't have |
8417s | particularly high amounts of heel it's |
8419s | just the hero power and so if you just |
8421s | damage it down to a 1-1 it effectively |
8423s | is a one one on the other side which is |
8425s | not very threatening at all and you |
8427s | would have got to save the coin uh which |
8430s | I was quite interested in uh but Ajo |
8433s | does admittedly make the play that puts |
8434s | the most stats on board immediately |
8438s | which sort of resets the game to some |
8440s | degree here obviously it resets it on |
8443s | turn five which is always in in favor of |
8445s | the the slower deck but yeah and this is |
8449s | the downside of a Jerry's play that |
8450s | we're seeing now right is on turn five |
8452s | or turn four sorry he has no way to |
8454s | cleanly spend all his mana and he just |
8455s | goes ping pass which is yeah exactly the |
8459s | kind of play that zochi needs to see to |
8461s | start pulling this one back yeah and |
8463s | look he's such his hand is starting to |
8465s | get there he's still missing obviously |
8467s | key pieces but |
8469s | he now has enough stuff to at least stay |
8471s | alive for a while draw some cards and |
8473s | see if they can get there |
8477s | I do think this is an activated more |
8480s | dress now though maybe one off but I |
8483s | think it's actually active with three |
8485s | pings plus a double Target |
8487s | a reckless Apprentice which is a huge |
8489s | deal once turn eight rocks around so for |
8492s | aogiro just hold down the fort and see |
8494s | if he can survive up until that point |
8496s | however with a nice Target being offered |
8499s | for the shadow word devour that's gonna |
8501s | start to get tougher and tougher yeah |
8507s | so I'll just say no wig but there's a |
8509s | wig is it too late it's probably not too |
8511s | late with a samurai as well |
8519s | oh man |
8524s | I do think you hold back |
8527s | on the Blessed because the plus two |
8529s | health I don't think is the difference |
8531s | between its surviving |
8534s | right and you do not surviving at all so |
8539s | although having said that if they have |
8541s | Frozen touch |
8542s | ping double trade plus Frozen touch does |
8544s | clear off the the two night whereas it |
8546s | wouldn't clear off the 11 11. fair |
8549s | enough yeah the three damage break point |
8550s | is a little bit too |
8553s | you see to get out of range of |
8563s | okay I'm very wig and two things to |
8566s | worry about suddenly first time the |
8568s | Azure has been in the spot where he's |
8570s | had to worry about two things in this |
8571s | game |
8572s | obviously flurries and stuff will just |
8574s | keep it at Bay for the longest time but |
8578s | when you get to that spot where one |
8579s | mistake and you're dead as Mage you |
8582s | really have to be very very careful |
8584s | because yeah one mistake and you're dead |
8589s | importantly right now Versace as big as |
8591s | this minion is there's no taunt uh to go |
8596s | alongside it like the uh |
8599s | baboon would be big for stats very |
8602s | importantly but it would also just clear |
8604s | off this damage which it looks like he's |
8605s | gonna have to deal with in the form of |
8607s | samaro instead which is huge if he |
8610s | didn't have this he'd be in big trouble |
8611s | because Andrew would just go freeze |
8613s | freeze everything goes face and then |
8615s | more dress will close out the game on |
8616s | turn eight or nine |
8618s | uh now however |
8620s | needs to freeze the board |
8623s | and get Minions on board at the same |
8626s | time because obviously more direct alone |
8627s | is not going to be enough to close out |
8629s | this game which is maybe a little bit |
8631s | too tall of an order |
8632s | yeah handmade and there as well now |
8634s | though to just keep this hate coming so |
8637s | ajiru |
8641s | down to freezing |
8643s | yeah with a savara that activates now so |
8646s | we can get a full freeze |
8648s | plus uh 35 on the board yeah and three's |
8653s | next turn with more dress ready to go as |
8655s | Corel yeah |
8657s | but all he really needs to dodge here is |
8660s | Boone |
8661s | uh if that doesn't come down |
8665s | then yeah he should be okay because he |
8667s | can just freeze the |
8670s | radiant Elemental for a couple turns |
8672s | sure but with handmade and wig amalgam |
8675s | in hand oh |
8677s | and there it is oh that's there were a |
8681s | lot of shots at it though to be fair |
8682s | there were so many shots at it that's |
8684s | true |
8686s | doesn't make it any less heartbreaking |
8688s | though sure |
8697s | it's definitely not over at all you know |
8699s | he's he's still got some powerful plays |
8700s | there's a more duration that's active |
8702s | plus the freeze which will kill |
8703s | everything else and then freeze those |
8704s | two but getting that damaged face while |
8706s | there's a two Mana uh sorry a two heal |
8709s | every turn from the hero power |
8711s | is really tough to do |
8713s | yeah |
8717s | all right oh solid Alibi for more time |
8720s | more dressing hand to remove some stuff |
8724s | still got the flow he's still got the |
8725s | intellect |
8727s | is he going to inflict the damage before |
8729s | getting hit though |
8733s | yeah this Prosper probably does have to |
8735s | be more trash I was going to say again |
8737s | we could look at the line of delaying |
8738s | more dress until turn 10 and go |
8741s | you know ping Alibi or ping Freeze |
8744s | location get an AI in there as well and |
8748s | then go more dress plus Ping On Turn 10 |
8750s | but I don't think the extra damage that |
8753s | you gain from that is worth |
8755s | leaving all these minions in play it |
8757s | just makes it so much harder to stall |
8758s | out the game when your flurry isn't |
8760s | guaranteed to hit the two big minions |
8761s | and if he does more just look at this |
8763s | potential reload on the other side |
8765s | there's gonna be so much stuff straight |
8768s | back down he's gonna be in the same spot |
8769s | and not have a more dress to turn after |
8771s | if he does rip it now that's a good |
8773s | point yeah maybe because of the the |
8774s | refill potential you do just delay more |
8777s | dresch for an extra turn |
8780s | really close call I think |
8784s | and we can see age you're agreeing he |
8786s | reached for the AI he reached for the |
8787s | Wildfire he reached for the hero power |
8789s | and in the end just ending on more dress |
8792s | didn't want to do it did he but he just |
8794s | couldn't he waited till the Rope started |
8795s | burning he couldn't find anything he he |
8797s | thought was actually better like he was |
8799s | looking not to play the more dress with |
8801s | with everything he could do but just |
8803s | couldn't find a line he preferred |
8805s | and now this is that massive reload |
8807s | which is why he was so scared |
8811s | why look at this the damage coming |
8814s | through it's |
8816s | unlikely to be lethal I will say even |
8818s | with pelagos or bless being found |
8820s | because the attack is higher than the |
8822s | health already |
8824s | and both uh Shadowood devours have been |
8826s | played |
8834s | ah |
8836s | not quite lethal as you say I don't |
8838s | think 21 it's pretty close |
8841s | yeah |
8842s | but yeah I think it is slightly short he |
8844s | used to be very scared of the backswing |
8845s | though right he can't just necessarily |
8848s | plug this face because uh more dress can |
8851s | trade off the carrion and then five |
8854s | damage goes face uh ping plus an |
8857s | activated uh yeah Frozen touch does then |
8861s | just loosen the game he needs to go as |
8863s | well does yeah |
8865s | yeah ends up on the trade I agree oh I |
8869s | understand but oh oh it hurts yeah he's |
8873s | not feeling good about this and uh nor |
8875s | should he |
8880s | oh oh |
8881s | blast The Tickler in the oh he's gonna |
8886s | come down to this |
8888s | how much stuff can he remove before he |
8890s | goes for it |
8893s | trade him first see if you get lucky |
8895s | with a hit |
8897s | ah |
8899s | that bad turned off probably bad |
8901s | probably bad but yeah given the other |
8904s | options were so |
8906s | there's so many of them |
8910s | why is he thinking Finley man he just |
8912s | wants to go for lethal I kind of respect |
8914s | it like could consider going here |
8918s | Alibi wildfire |
8922s | Finley |
8924s | and then just try to hit Frozen touches |
8927s | your other solid alibi |
8929s | you lose a lot of the cartridge which |
8931s | hurts so maybe you would save on Finley |
8934s | for a turn |
8935s | ing for Reno to say you've been in |
8937s | tougher spots Arena I'm not sure he has |
8939s | okay |
8944s | yeah you hold on the Finley at the end |
8946s | but basically you're trying to get |
8947s | damage for lethal here is the uh the |
8949s | Salient part |
8952s | oh heel offered whatsoever for zochi you |
8955s | would have taken desperate prayer flash |
8957s | heal anything you could get your hands |
8960s | on yeah I mean he got the handmaiden off |
8962s | one of the discovers on the other stuff |
8964s | so he's allowed to get a bad discover |
8965s | later to be fair I thought to him |
8969s | but you're absolutely the heel there |
8971s | would have been Giant |
8976s | this has been a heck of a game so back |
8979s | and forth like right from turn one it |
8981s | looked all over then from turn five it |
8982s | looked all over the other way |
8984s | [Music] |
8986s | it's actually one of my favorite |
8987s | matchups despite the fact I have |
8989s | very low skill rating at this matchup |
8992s | yeah it's one of my favorite matchups to |
8993s | play from the Mage side it can be pretty |
8996s | frustrating to play from the free side |
8998s | if I'm honestly because yeah you end up |
9000s | in this situation where you're like okay |
9002s | I've won the game but I'm gonna lose |
9004s | I've done everything Hearthstone tells |
9006s | me I should do very well and it's not |
9009s | gonna be good enough yeah yes one of my |
9012s | favorite ones to watch just to clarify |
9013s | absolutely just give me some warlock |
9015s | games |
9017s | to see what happens all day |
9025s | well this is a full board clear now if |
9027s | he wants it if he can't find lethal it's |
9028s | a four Mana ping oh sorry a four damage |
9030s | ping and then triple threes with the |
9033s | flurry plus a shattering blast I want to |
9036s | say that probably wins him the game |
9038s | especially as he would have four Mana |
9039s | left over for multicaster uh to draw the |
9042s | rest of his deck |
9045s | this is where the fact the the minion |
9048s | had to trade earlier rather than doing |
9050s | 21 to face is kind of huge as well |
9052s | because is there time for such to make |
9054s | another 30 30 whereas if you had to make |
9057s | some eight eights maybe he could still |
9058s | be sort of scary so I like clearing up |
9061s | here I think |
9063s | I think the real question is just |
9066s | if you're going for that line when you |
9068s | go for the Ping flurry shattering blast |
9070s | do you end with sorceress or thinly |
9076s | um |
9077s | all right this thing's again are kind of |
9080s | saying thinly I I want Varden the the |
9082s | hero card yeah I want uh the Frozen |
9086s | touches as well very importantly |
9093s | foreign |
9103s | in hand I respect it |
9106s | um you do have to be a little afraid of |
9110s | snuggling into focused will to freeze |
9112s | your own or sorry to unfreeze one of |
9116s | your minions uh but of course if you did |
9118s | that on the radiant it would lose all |
9120s | the stats so I think he's essentially |
9123s | never dead here or you know it would |
9125s | take a very very unlikely outcome for |
9127s | him today |
9129s | mm-hmm |
9131s | you can search you guys are going well |
9133s | if you're looking yeah he's gonna make |
9135s | it huge |
9136s | yeah more bigger is more better |
9140s | but age you're I think can sense that |
9142s | this is extremely all in from his |
9145s | opponent and this part of the Tall Grass |
9148s | plus shattering blast combo is |
9152s | just astrophic in its power look at this |
9155s | this is ultra Instinct Mega plus 50 000 |
9159s | backflip power |
9161s | that's a lot I'm just gonna go with that |
9164s | I'm not repeating anything Derek says |
9169s | hey Jimmy |
9173s | I wouldn't believe he was 2-0 down about |
9174s | to go 2-1 would you yeah exactly I think |
9177s | this is the the world championship |
9179s | winning game |
9180s | that must be great to get so excited |
9182s | about every single win I mean I get |
9184s | excited about every single win because I |
9185s | just don't get any but yep back in it |
9187s | 2-1 no not two two |
9189s | yeah and that one for aajiru you know I |
9192s | know it's the one game that you won but |
9194s | also I do think it was the game that I |
9195s | had the least qualms with uh on the Mage |
9198s | like I'm being very nitpicky because |
9200s | it's my favorite deck in this meta it's |
9202s | the deck I've been playing by far the |
9203s | most and I I do have some pretty strong |
9205s | opinions on it all of the the things |
9207s | I've raised for aajiru I think could |
9209s | have very strong counter arguments this |
9211s | one though just fell clean man like from |
9214s | start to finish it really felt like he |
9216s | wasn't |
9217s | struggling he didn't he was never unsure |
9219s | about what to do he had a strong game |
9221s | plan kept his cool never used his strong |
9224s | removal pieces before they were |
9225s | necessary baited his opponent into going |
9228s | all in then unleashed the uh the full |
9231s | power of Barden plus shattering blast uh |
9234s | it takes a well-deserved win finally |
9236s | getting one on the table and lining up |
9238s | his Relic Demon Hunter in game four here |
9243s | a deck that I uh like quite a bit less |
9247s | than the Mage I will say this mistake is |
9249s | weird to me |
9251s | um there's different definitions of a |
9253s | like right here do I like this as a |
9256s | hearthstone deck no I find it fairly |
9258s | tedious and boring do I like it as I |
9260s | bring to this tournament I like it a lot |
9263s | more than Derek does as I bring to this |
9264s | tournament um yeah yesterday we saw all |
9267s | of the bad things with this deck uh if |
9269s | you don't draw your radical you probably |
9271s | lose the game if you don't draw things |
9273s | to go with your Relic Vault you probably |
9275s | lose the game if you get behind early |
9277s | you're in trouble if you know your |
9279s | opponent brings the right deck you're |
9281s | also in trouble we haven't seen this |
9283s | yesterday the smug original smile |
9286s | erosion smile where you just Relic the |
9290s | heck out of your opponent to win in six |
9291s | turns yeah we might this is this is the |
9294s | reason I think it is a bring to this |
9296s | tournament |
9298s | oh man I mean speaking the speaking of |
9299s | relicing the heck out of your opponent |
9301s | it was almost to the point where I was |
9302s | wondering if that was just relic of |
9304s | Extinction on turn one for literally to |
9305s | zero value just to give yourself two |
9308s | twos and three threes instead of one |
9309s | ones and two twos uh on turn three with |
9312s | the relic of phantasms but being |
9315s | sensible I guess against uh the boss |
9319s | priest it's too important to have strong |
9321s | removal and and another reason I think |
9323s | this is um a decent bring to this |
9324s | specific tournament as opposed to just |
9326s | generically the deck is a 50 50 deck it |
9328s | draws The Relic Vault or it doesn't |
9330s | benefit Extinction is actually pretty |
9333s | good in the current tournament meta at |
9335s | least it kills a lot of stuff for one |
9337s | Mana |
9340s | not necessarily on turn one or two |
9342s | either I mean like you've cast another |
9344s | Relic or two and suddenly your relative |
9345s | extensions are board clearing it's four |
9347s | uh three four four imps or whatever like |
9349s | that on turn five or six right it's a |
9352s | big deal |
9354s | all right tip a jury that I know he |
9357s | knows but just to remind myself because |
9358s | I have made this mistake twice on ladder |
9361s | double Relic Vault does not work on the |
9364s | same spell you have to do it on two |
9366s | different cards it doesn't double double |
9368s | unfortunately |
9369s | yeah I think that's a a thing that |
9371s | because I play so much Battlegrounds I |
9373s | know you've played a lot as well but |
9374s | like the the brands and balance in |
9377s | Battlegrounds are sort of yeah yeah |
9379s | alerts to making that mistake quite |
9380s | early on with this deck it's like 100 a |
9383s | me problem it does not say double the |
9385s | number of times this activates it says |
9387s | they activate twice specifically if I |
9390s | hadn't played so much Battlegrounds I |
9392s | think I would have made exactly that |
9393s | mistake more than once as well it's just |
9395s | it's just got that alarm Bell wording |
9398s | all right |
9400s | so he's valuing the relic of Extinction |
9403s | more than actually having stuff on board |
9407s | in terms of size which makes sense |
9408s | because we've we know what priest does |
9413s | and this should be able to kill pretty |
9414s | much anything next turn with a small |
9417s | minions plus the extinction but so she |
9420s | realized this is just going in |
9422s | look at this Felicia on turn three with |
9424s | coin in hand not played is absolutely |
9428s | fascinating it's 10 10's the magic |
9431s | number right he's calculated this right |
9434s | so |
9439s | but he can't allow for the second Vault |
9441s | yeah |
9442s | oh with relic of Extinction yeah he |
9445s | couldn't allow for the second vote |
9448s | because why would you yeah well that was |
9451s | 12 with a single Relic extension but |
9453s | yeah I mean like you say it's uh so many |
9456s | break points to play around in this deck |
9457s | it's very difficult to get it exactly |
9458s | right |
9459s | uh he was just double checking his head |
9462s | three three four four he could have just |
9464s | not attacked him with the hero power I |
9466s | think he's realizing it's still got a |
9468s | guaranteed full clear |
9469s | that's right nine was the number without |
9471s | the Vault so it's three from the single |
9473s | Relic plus the 16 board so he took it to |
9476s | ten to play around single relative |
9478s | Extinction |
9480s | did he even need to |
9482s | press the Relic I I guess it's still |
9484s | good to press the the location |
9486s | and they're offset as well yeah yeah |
9490s | just keep pressing one each turn now for |
9492s | the reason you just gave a minute ago |
9493s | like there's there's the obvious mistake |
9495s | if he shouldn't have attacked with the |
9497s | hero power the question is whether he |
9498s | should have pressed it at all is the |
9499s | debatable one and I do think it was |
9501s | still probably correct as he gets |
9504s | himself some juicy discounts Mamma Mia |
9508s | this is the side of the deck we just |
9510s | didn't see yesterday sometimes it does |
9512s | this oh yeah and then you get the car |
9515s | drawer going you get zoom on a chaos |
9516s | strikes as you see to draw more cards |
9519s | you've got Brands to do disgusting |
9521s | things with as well with the school |
9522s | teachers |
9523s | and now you just get to your other |
9525s | relics and you just win the game pretty |
9529s | often from here against anything not |
9532s | just here like you get your zymox |
9533s | eventually and then just do it all again |
9534s | and |
9536s | I don't know it's kind of a a stupid |
9538s | thing to say but I'm gonna say it anyway |
9540s | uh Versace it's almost annoying these |
9543s | minions are so small instead of being |
9544s | bigger because it just feels bad to use |
9547s | your Samurai against this you you know |
9550s | the problem's gonna be worse next turn |
9551s | but do you just |
9554s | do nothing but this next turn oh like |
9558s | just pleasure |
9560s | treasure god I guess something like that |
9562s | I don't know the the school teacher |
9563s | coming down does make it a lot more |
9565s | tempting to just go samurai serpent week |
9568s | clear the board |
9570s | I think my argument is if they do it |
9572s | again can you somehow even kill it |
9575s | like you're gonna have a board of seven |
9576s | sevens and eight eights do you even have |
9578s | enough stuff to deal with that with your |
9579s | summer purpose you probably can but yeah |
9582s | yeah especially with the uh |
9586s | devour picked up as well your Samurai |
9588s | will be able to clear off most anything |
9589s | that comes down next turn |
9593s | unless it's zymox I don't know but I |
9595s | mean again like speaking of the cymox |
9597s | say you go for a big samurai board clear |
9599s | and then they just slam a three-man of |
9601s | zymox that's now infused as well exactly |
9603s | at that point like |
9605s | clearing it could be bad but not |
9608s | clearing it is terrible |
9611s | yeah I think you're living in the short |
9613s | term here I think if this game goes any |
9614s | length of time even if your Samurai |
9616s | clears a board |
9617s | I think you probably just lose as the |
9619s | piece so personally here I'm all in for |
9622s | the the panic button immediately yeah |
9625s | this is the only other line you can take |
9629s | just uh soak up as much of this help as |
9633s | you can give yourself the biggest gosh |
9634s | dang pelagos you're gonna see in a good |
9636s | long while |
9641s | can be dealt with |
9647s | okay |
9649s | where you're at yeah that's true |
9652s | um I was gonna say meltronics I think is |
9654s | not something you can rely on the answer |
9656s | is because they very possibly have a |
9658s | hand that they can just kind of dump out |
9659s | even right they go radio station exactly |
9667s | like I'm probably just gonna Curtis and |
9669s | clear everything into the 1212 but I |
9671s | want to play chaos strike first to see |
9672s | what's going on |
9673s | Bernie |
9675s | three fours at the moment so I guess you |
9677s | could go chaos strike attacking to the |
9679s | 3-1 and then school teacher double bat |
9682s | does kill it off |
9684s | I don't hate that |
9686s | um |
9688s | I wonder if there's something more |
9689s | impressive we can get here looks like |
9691s | they might be because he's not going for |
9692s | the Curtis at all he's going for the |
9694s | expensive kind of strike |
9697s | whatever it is he needs to do it soon |
9698s | because he's gonna have card draw |
9699s | decisions to factor in exactly yeah it's |
9702s | really time to move now |
9705s | oh wow that's it there's the one |
9710s | helicopter on the board apparently so |
9712s | metal Tronics |
9715s | okay no just relative fantastic sure |
9717s | okay |
9720s | but this does now mean actually with the |
9722s | helicopter left on the board this |
9724s | Samurai is a guaranteed full board clear |
9727s | because serpent wig just gives him eight |
9729s | AOE and he can even attack into one of |
9731s | the two ones and still get it |
9737s | oops yeah this is a disaster for you |
9741s | Jerry |
9745s | yeah the the whole discussion we had |
9747s | earlier about oh but Samurai clears the |
9749s | board and then you reload involves your |
9752s | opponent not having a 12 12 backing it |
9754s | up |
9755s | because now you're just building a big |
9756s | board with your zymox and you get |
9758s | smacked in the face for lethal |
9762s | man even Corning at the heel |
9765s | I respect it |
9767s | afraid of Jace he's afraid of some |
9769s | nonsense with uh those spells oh that's |
9772s | relic of extinctions comes off the top |
9774s | that's like the best card he could |
9776s | possibly get |
9778s | um I think that just guarantees him a |
9780s | full board clear now right with Curtis |
9782s | which is nine I can't remember |
9784s | uh eight or nine yes sir is here |
9791s | that's so clutch |
9793s | oh oh yeah we'll take that too that |
9796s | gives you something to do next turn to |
9797s | to basically win the game it will clear |
9799s | the entire board it will make a board |
9801s | and that'll be the end |
9808s | foreign |
9811s | [Music] |
9836s | just just casually take eight to show |
9839s | off that's what it is |
9842s | yeah and it's like you know this is what |
9844s | we're seeing from aogiro right these are |
9846s | the big mistakes so far it's little |
9849s | floppy sequencing errors like I think |
9851s | it's overall match-up understanding has |
9853s | been very strong so far he's been |
9855s | playing the game you can tell to learn |
9857s | these matchups inside and out |
9860s | taking a deep breath there is exactly |
9862s | what he needs to do that is all we need |
9864s | here just try to get your head don't get |
9868s | in your own head too much calm down he |
9870s | can win this series still it's very |
9872s | winnable from this point yeah I mean |
9874s | it's very hard to lose this particular |
9876s | game and then it's down to one game so |
9878s | like you say just use this time calm |
9880s | himself down because he got here with |
9882s | three six and twos like that's superb |
9885s | Hearthstone |
9890s | it is a shame that sometimes I mean he's |
9892s | like like you've exactly described |
9894s | sometimes we just don't see quite the |
9895s | best of players when they don't go on |
9897s | um screen as a player that often |
9901s | um but yeah to get here every player |
9902s | here is a superb play it's it's |
9904s | basically impossible to lock your way |
9906s | into this tournament |
9908s | all right here we go for zochi the last |
9910s | opportunity he really has to try and |
9911s | close this one out he's going to need to |
9913s | get a big pop-off turn in terms of his |
9915s | development and also get something |
9917s | pretty specific off of the school |
9919s | teacher uh the light it burns |
9924s | maybe plague uh will be enough in order |
9928s | to clear off the 5-2 and heal for a |
9930s | little bit |
9931s | um but it's quite obviously uh not |
9935s | looking especially likely with this |
9936s | amount of pressure on the other side |
9937s | yeah and we can see the relic of |
9939s | Dimensions yeah sure the other side as |
9941s | well which makes things even more |
9942s | ridiculous |
9947s | minus three managers coming up next turn |
9949s | anybody |
9951s | there's the light it burns |
9953s | that's a uh oh you need it clear on the |
9956s | zymox |
9962s | yeah time to get moving though oh |
9965s | there's so much Happening Here |
9967s | yeah from his perspective he could |
9970s | technically be alive if he leaves the |
9971s | five two up because there's four from |
9973s | the double hero power yeah |
9978s | the only show he's got we can know just |
9980s | with the nagaling for Fury that'll be |
9982s | enough to close out the game |
9985s | but a valiant effort from zochi and |
9987s | foreign just managing to scrape through |
9991s | that one with uh a bit of a sloppy game |
9994s | uh by comparison and a couple of plays |
9997s | that I definitely |
9998s | disagree on right leaving up the pelagos |
10000s | uh invited |
10003s | a little bit too much uncertainty into |
10005s | the game than I believe they needed to |
10006s | be |
10007s | absolutely I gave himself every chance |
10010s | to not win that game but that is the |
10013s | Demon Hunter deck doing the thing that |
10015s | is why it's just so many lineups you |
10017s | test it for a day you see that happening |
10019s | half of the time is the number I use |
10022s | because it basically is a chance of |
10023s | drawing something your only hand if |
10025s | you're really getting full it fall is |
10026s | let's call it 50 50 for discussion's |
10028s | sake |
10029s | so half the time it does draw The Relic |
10031s | Vault that is kind of the games that |
10033s | happen and |
10035s | again this is in terms of is it your |
10037s | fourth best deck but if your fourth best |
10038s | deck is good half the time I think |
10040s | that's okay if you can't find anything |
10041s | better it also kind of fits in any |
10043s | lineup is another reason I think we're |
10046s | seeing it a lot it just does this thing |
10047s | no matter what you're trying to Target |
10048s | so that's another good reason but again |
10051s | yesterday your side of the discussion |
10053s | was very much look at it lose a lot of |
10055s | games of hearthstone and you couldn't |
10057s | argue with that it lost a lot of games |
10060s | did yeah and I think it comes up against |
10063s | priest pretty unfavored like I I like |
10066s | priests in this meta game the Naga |
10068s | priest in this tournament as well |
10070s | specifically because of the prevalence |
10071s | of both zoo or the Imp curse will work I |
10074s | should say sorry and this Relic Demon |
10076s | Hunter both Witcher Decks that really |
10078s | lack removal like for Ayo chiru to win |
10081s | that one he needed double doubled up |
10084s | relic of Extinction plus another one |
10087s | from zymox at the end and it still |
10089s | almost wasn't enough it was a very |
10091s | specific hand he needed to take that win |
10093s | and I think the majority of the time |
10095s | zuchi and the priest should have come |
10097s | away with the win and speaking of as I |
10100s | just was one of the reasons I like |
10101s | priest another one is against this curse |
10103s | warlock which I think in my opinion |
10106s | struggles to get off to quite aggressive |
10109s | enough of a start and as soon as you |
10111s | start getting ahead on board as the |
10113s | priest the catch-up mechanisms are just |
10115s | nowhere near uh strong enough or well |
10118s | suited to the types of Minions that |
10120s | priest generates for the Warlock yeah we |
10122s | talked yesterday about how this Warlock |
10124s | deck isn't just two halves of a deck |
10126s | jammed together like we first thought |
10127s | it's not just half imps and half curses |
10130s | there's a lot of synergy there |
10132s | however against priests where you |
10134s | haven't got the time for the curse half |
10136s | to really kick in you need this half of |
10138s | your deck with all the Minions in it you |
10140s | need just to play imp Warlock and maybe |
10144s | a curse to finish the job but the imps |
10146s | have to take control of the board they |
10147s | have to do a lot of damage and |
10155s | to go along with it while I was talking |
10157s | this is a incredible looking start yeah |
10160s | it's a very very high Tempo start for |
10162s | aegiro with just all the |
10165s | well the Imp portion of the tech like |
10167s | every God in his hand was is an imp or |
10169s | synergizes with it uh however if you |
10172s | wanted if you were to start a game from |
10174s | behind |
10175s | thought she has about the best hand you |
10178s | can have not not quite but he has a lot |
10181s | of the tools you need to catch up after |
10183s | you have fallen behind with Samurai and |
10185s | devour yeah no you're resisting the |
10188s | temptation to call anything out why |
10190s | would you spend your money on getting |
10191s | enough stuff out there right now |
10194s | um the only thing he is really missing |
10196s | is a way to draw more cards because he's |
10198s | never pushing the hero power button ever |
10200s | if you can draw that then with a |
10203s | catastrophe he just in such a great spot |
10205s | because this will require V loads to win |
10208s | because of that Samurai |
10210s | or you can draw a drag below and do a |
10213s | lot of damage this is terrifying now |
10218s | it's an interesting drawer isn't it |
10220s | because no matter how you slice it |
10222s | it feels a little inefficient on this |
10224s | term because you could go trade an imp |
10226s | Circle |
10228s | trade the flame imp and the other one |
10230s | one imp and then get face damage for |
10232s | like what six or uh seven with the |
10235s | flustered librarian but then you're |
10237s | leaving more minions at one Health which |
10240s | makes you more susceptible to Shadow a |
10241s | devour or Samurai on the other side |
10243s | which you ideally do not want but then |
10246s | if you just go I don't know fiendish |
10248s | Circle you accept that you summon one |
10250s | less imp you're massively over trading |
10252s | with the uh the fluster librarian in the |
10255s | end he's settling on the infused |
10257s | mischievous him |
10259s | which I actually didn't quite like yeah |
10262s | like somewhere that I like it I haven't |
10265s | seen that line I was looking at drag |
10267s | below just insert nine and then save my |
10269s | circles for a turn or two but this is |
10271s | really sweet I like this a lot |
10276s | and I think it means the only real |
10278s | Avenue for zochi |
10281s | is to take a setup turn here |
10284s | I mean you could gamble on school |
10285s | teacher to get something very specific |
10289s | I'm thinking Cathedral |
10292s | and silence I'd rather play that than |
10295s | trade it and just you know take |
10297s | potentially six less damage on the |
10300s | flustered librarian and then just set up |
10301s | for the samurai clear next turn is how I |
10305s | mean who is trading it oh this is so |
10308s | scary like the Samoa clear |
10310s | it's almost lethal here for algero right |
10313s | with |
10314s | the circle now just because it's plus |
10317s | three damage not because you expect it |
10318s | to live |
10323s | his workout if he needs to because if he |
10324s | plays Circle it gets devoured maybe |
10326s | there's a way to lose |
10327s | but |
10330s | sure okay |
10334s | and it's close like honestly I'd be |
10336s | tempted to play fiendish circle just to |
10338s | get three more damaged face |
10340s | but coming back the other way is the |
10343s | problem right if you Circle and you get |
10345s | devoured here |
10346s | now you're giving your poetry a quicker |
10349s | kill on you so yeah yeah I am mainly |
10351s | considering Samurai instead of the uh |
10354s | the devour |
10357s | so I think I like this in hindsight it's |
10359s | very hard when you can see both hands |
10361s | sometimes not to cast a vision it but I |
10362s | think I like it |
10364s | yeah start with the atonement in case |
10365s | you get a |
10367s | another handmade or something like that |
10369s | that you want to activate with the |
10370s | devour and then I do think it is |
10372s | absolutely the shadow of devour even |
10374s | though it doesn't boost your clearing |
10375s | potential just more health |
10384s | looking for |
10387s | ways to win I guess is the words I'm |
10389s | looking for now yeah straight up |
10394s | we could see ajiro initially reaching |
10397s | for the drags below but he does think |
10400s | about the fiendish circle for a while |
10401s | which |
10403s | I don't know I was actually kind of |
10405s | leaning towards in the end just because |
10406s | they probably don't have all too much |
10408s | ability to |
10410s | clear a bunch of one ones with Samurai |
10412s | lights devour both having just been used |
10414s | I think you maybe need to buff your |
10416s | other curses though |
10419s | um to tie up your opponent's man and |
10420s | make it they have to actually get those |
10421s | curses out their hand and or heal or |
10423s | something of course so she's going to |
10425s | kill you in two turns a lot of the time |
10427s | here |
10433s | I do think Versace here you are not |
10438s | playing the curse |
10440s | I've got I've got to be honest I don't |
10441s | think I thought that was going to be |
10443s | buff the samurai Boone the samurai |
10447s | and just try to win with like a a bless |
10452s | wig combo over the next couple turns but |
10457s | I guess that would mean that you're |
10459s | amazing Elemental guys to uh |
10463s | wait |
10465s | and he's playing super defensive here |
10470s | kind of |
10475s | I'm going to say he's calculated this is |
10477s | two turn lethal but |
10480s | sure |
10481s | oh if you'd played the circle last turn |
10484s | dark |
10485s | that was part of the equation that's so |
10488s | much worse now |
10493s | kind of |
10495s | in big trouble of dying here very very |
10498s | big trouble |
10501s | foreign |
10509s | okay fair enough it almost certainly |
10512s | keeps him alive you can kill off the |
10513s | radiant because he's not far from just |
10515s | going ran in to kill you as well so yeah |
10519s | he knows he's gonna die soon he knows |
10521s | he's gonna win soon |
10526s | eight more matches today as well if this |
10529s | is how it's gonna be it's gonna be a I'm |
10531s | gonna be collapsing by the end of the |
10533s | day |
10534s | the leash is a fantastic top deck as |
10536s | well and just look at these cards |
10539s | helicos plus the buff for more damaged |
10541s | face the uh the only thing we can say is |
10544s | that he is not currently clearing this |
10547s | board is he so these two one ones are |
10549s | gonna be left in play with another |
10551s | fiendish Circle oh yeah there are outs |
10554s | for lethal here if zochi doesn't manage |
10557s | to to clear this up somehow |
10559s | a library circle is how much |
10563s | two plus five plus six that's |
10567s | wait |
10569s | yeah he has to kill at least one of them |
10570s | right |
10572s | or here |
10576s | oh yeah you're right yeah yeah two plus |
10578s | another six yeah |
10581s | so is that just it unless he trades |
10584s | somehow does he make the read |
10587s | only if he's got lethal next turn |
10588s | otherwise you can't make that move right |
10589s | I haven't got lethal next turn anyway |
10591s | then you have to do that ghost face |
10598s | first |
10600s | how many times are you going to count |
10602s | this given the slight sloppiness of the |
10604s | day |
10607s | it's plus six |
10610s | and there's two on board |
10615s | he's actually melting under the pressure |
10617s | but he's gonna get it done |
10620s | that was |
10621s | of possible margins oh my God Lorinda |
10625s | he's actually done it the full reverse |
10628s | sweep after O2 down on his Mage at the |
10631s | start he reverse sweeps the Naga priest |
10633s | of all deck in a uh a flabbergasting end |
10638s | to the game there like I would argue |
10641s | not a mistake necessarily but a player I |
10643s | did not agree on from Air jury to play |
10644s | the drag below instead of the fiendish |
10646s | circle he gets punished by top decking |
10649s | the the location the turn after and yeah |
10651s | it's still just enough with exactly to |
10654s | him sticking on the board and uh you |
10657s | know zochi not healing up his face the |
10659s | turn earlier healing the samurai you |
10662s | know a lot of different lines that could |
10663s | have been taken I think by zochi there |
10665s | to maybe just try and play it a little |
10667s | bit more defensively but then when you |
10669s | go to the I agree with the here on the |
10671s | samurai seemed weird but I'm going to |
10673s | give him credit for having counted |
10674s | something that I just can't count in the |
10675s | trip yeah but that last term when you're |
10677s | saying can he make the read I'm killing |
10679s | the Imp he can't because the circle |
10680s | wasn't played when we would have played |
10682s | it so he doesn't think the circle's |
10684s | there as well as it has to have a |
10686s | library as well so I don't think he can |
10688s | actually make that read on the last turn |
10689s | there I think he just has to go face |
10692s | but that was a series of hearthstone |
10695s | direct a reverse sweep um some shaky |
10698s | play from Hozier but he didn't seem to |
10700s | sort of deny that fact you see his |
10701s | facial expressions right at the end |
10702s | there's like is two plus six eight |
10705s | there's such a long |
10707s | terrifying series can I can I add to |
10709s | these numbers together |
10711s | uh but yeah he got there and again |
10713s | setting the scene for what is going to |
10714s | be a fantastic group by the look of |
10716s | things |
10717s | absolutely yeah that was a thoroughly |
10720s | enjoyable series of faster and I got to |
10722s | see plenty of Mage plenty of priests uh |
10724s | the Naga priest specifically two of my |
10726s | favorite decks to be playing right now |
10727s | and uh huge congratulations to ajiru uh |
10730s | I think with a couple of nerves maybe |
10732s | slipping in there uh into his play but |
10734s | as I said at the time overall I think |
10736s | very very good matchup understanding uh |
10739s | of the the common |
10741s | decks bashing up against each other that |
10743s | he is bringing in his lineup as well and |
10746s | I think he could be a real Contender as |
10748s | he goes forward to face Bonnie Hopper |
10750s | now in the winners bracket match for |
10752s | this group absolutely and with that in |
10755s | mind we're going to give the players a |
10756s | few extra minutes just to recover and |
10759s | get there get their senses back after |
10761s | that but straight after this slightly |
10763s | longer break we will have that Winners |
10765s | match for Group C so don't go anywhere |
10775s | laughs |
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11385s | hello everyone and welcome back to the |
11387s | fall Championship I'm Raven and joining |
11389s | me is Gia I'm going to be taking you |
11391s | through the upper match in group CG |
11393s | you're welcome how's it going you ready |
11394s | to Castle milestone |
11396s | uh doing very well Reuben thanks for |
11398s | asking it is a nice completely not |
11401s | bright and not Sunny night here in |
11404s | Western us |
11406s | um and I am super excited to be back on |
11409s | the casting desk especially for a match |
11411s | of this caliber we have bunny Hopper and |
11414s | aujiru who have just won their initial |
11416s | matches in group C bunny Hopper of |
11418s | course one of the most storied players |
11420s | in the entirety of hearthstone history |
11422s | and our Giro someone who also has a |
11425s | similarly long reputation within |
11428s | Hearthstone but I think only recently |
11430s | has been making waves in the global |
11432s | scene which is great to see oh 100 and |
11435s | Azure definitely one of the players |
11436s | who's great to watch as well very |
11438s | reactive on camera but although they |
11441s | both did win and of course this is that |
11443s | a sort of upper bracket match in group C |
11445s | and they both got there in very |
11446s | different ways right bunny hopper one is |
11449s | series 3-1 looked pretty convincing |
11451s | pretty calm comfortable and algero |
11453s | actually had to fight all the way back |
11455s | from zero two down down and even in the |
11457s | last game it was so so close so I think |
11460s | it was a very good thing we went to a |
11461s | longer break there of course to give our |
11463s | jira just a few minutes to relax after |
11465s | that because it was quite the series |
11467s | indeed but take a look at the first |
11469s | matchup gear we have a bunny Hopper on |
11471s | the big spell Mage and what do you think |
11474s | about this deck as an inclusion bunny |
11475s | Hopper not the only player who's brought |
11477s | it of course but I expected if we saw |
11480s | any Mage it was all going to be ping |
11483s | I thought so too especially given Fury |
11485s | Hunters recent very good performance |
11487s | with the Ping Mage just winning another |
11490s | Masters Tour it thanks in no small part |
11493s | to that deck but big spell Mage I think |
11495s | is very emblematic of bunny Hopper's |
11498s | entire year I feel like he's been |
11499s | playing this deck every tournament since |
11501s | the start of 2022 and he's been doing |
11505s | very well with it it's a deck that just |
11507s | traditionally has not had any terrible |
11509s | matchups it doesn't have too many great |
11511s | ones either but for a field where the |
11513s | goal is just to get to the top four and |
11516s | get yourself that ticket through to the |
11518s | world championship I don't mind going |
11520s | for a slightly safer |
11522s | um sort of not all in deck that you can |
11525s | just try and get a couple more |
11527s | percentage edge with by playing well |
11529s | which is something that bunny Hopper has |
11531s | been known to do as for the list itself |
11534s | not much has really changed since the |
11537s | inclusion of the mini set it's just the |
11540s | Sylvanas the accused slotted in towards |
11542s | the mid middle there yeah and I think |
11544s | there's something to be said as well for |
11546s | like players bringing some bringing the |
11549s | unexpected to this tournament I mean |
11551s | we've seen it probably most notably from |
11552s | Abu gabu but we've seen other players |
11555s | bring either you know differently teched |
11556s | versions of lists all just the |
11558s | unexpected lists like like we just said |
11560s | with big Mage so they seem to be doing |
11562s | okay so far we'll see how that looks |
11564s | once we've got that sort of top four |
11566s | scenario sorted out but I believe the |
11568s | first matchup actually is going to be a |
11571s | mirror match in classes uh but of course |
11573s | not archetypes because algera is |
11575s | bringing the Ping Mage and uh you know |
11578s | we I feel like we've seen or had these |
11580s | two decks in The Meta for a very long |
11582s | time and with varying degrees of success |
11584s | of course but where would you place them |
11586s | in the actual matchup against each other |
11588s | yeah I actually when I first kind of |
11592s | encountered this matchup on ladder more |
11595s | recently playing from the pig Mage side |
11597s | because I do enjoy the deck a lot I |
11599s | thought it would lean quite heavily |
11600s | favored for the pink Mage player because |
11602s | you have a lot more guaranteed direct |
11605s | damage which has traditionally been |
11607s | something good for mage to do in the |
11610s | mirror they have ways to freeze each |
11612s | other's boards so it becomes more of |
11614s | like who can send damage straight over |
11616s | the dome but big spell Mage packs a lot |
11618s | more disruption than I necessarily |
11621s | expected they're just Landing an early |
11623s | far watch pose can be deadly for the pig |
11627s | Mage um of course barbaric sorcerer is |
11630s | sometimes very difficult to play around |
11631s | as the Ping Mage and it uh the early |
11635s | runes are not to be underestimated |
11637s | either because they can just get bored |
11639s | presents either from that generating |
11641s | minions or just the Drake fire amulet so |
11644s | while I do think it is ever so slightly |
11647s | pink Mage favorite there's men many many |
11649s | ways that the big spell Mage can still |
11651s | get a leg up yeah it feels like |
11653s | sometimes you when you play the Ping |
11655s | Mage it feels like you know pretty Sleek |
11657s | sports car you know it does this one |
11659s | thing very very well and it's all you |
11661s | know the whole thing's built for that |
11662s | but then the big spell Mage can just |
11664s | like be a tank right tank just rolls up |
11667s | over it because you have some of those |
11669s | incredibly powerful turns even when you |
11671s | just look at like the Belinda turn right |
11673s | if that comes down yes this Mage has |
11676s | freeze but it it doesn't often have like |
11678s | infinite freeze you might be able to |
11680s | freeze something for a couple of turns |
11681s | but actually killing the minion itself |
11684s | is difficult and it's in a similar style |
11686s | of where the matchup can lead with the |
11688s | uh like Naga priest for example where |
11690s | yes you can freeze the minions out but |
11692s | the second you don't you might just be |
11694s | dead so um it can be a little bit crazy |
11697s | overall so that's the matchup we are |
11699s | going to see to kick it off and we do |
11701s | actually see bunny Hopper losing his |
11703s | Naga priest in the band and algero |
11705s | losing the Rogue so just looking at the |
11708s | Decks that left and it may be a little |
11709s | bit difficult of course because Bunny |
11711s | Hop is just bringing the shaman which I |
11713s | think no one expected but who do you |
11715s | think's got the overall you know favored |
11718s | side of this in terms of lineup |
11720s | I am tending to give the advantage to |
11724s | bunny Hopper ever so slightly I feel |
11726s | like his Rogue is positioned pretty well |
11729s | and I think it's a big win that his wig |
11731s | priest ends up banned not that I think |
11734s | it's a bad band from our Drew I think it |
11736s | makes a lot of sense because a lot of |
11738s | our jurors that struggle against |
11739s | singular big minions hitting and |
11742s | sticking to the board but I feel like |
11744s | every player who brings wig priest it's |
11746s | just one of those Decks that feels so |
11748s | bad when you lose with it because it's |
11750s | like oh yeah I just didn't draw my wig |
11752s | or I didn't draw my radiant and to get |
11754s | it done off your back is a huge deal and |
11757s | that means that banirog's uh sorry bunny |
11759s | Hoppers Thief Rogue is in place and we |
11761s | just like have seen him do so well with |
11764s | various iterations of this deck and this |
11766s | style of deck so many different times so |
11769s | I feel like I'm going a bit against my |
11772s | normal assessment and giving favor based |
11774s | off of how well I know bunny Hopper can |
11777s | play these types of decks that have a |
11779s | lot of generation and all alternate wind |
11781s | conditions that being said our jira has |
11784s | that Magister Don grasp in the opener |
11787s | and I completely agree with keeping that |
11789s | even though it's quite a while to get it |
11791s | online it's still a major part of the |
11794s | win condition in the match-up yeah it's |
11796s | very scary isn't it because the dawn |
11798s | grass like you said right completely |
11800s | agree with keeping it 100 but you do |
11802s | think uh I could draw a very clunky |
11805s | curve from this point onwards right that |
11807s | could really just not do a lot but you |
11810s | did get hold of the Wildfire so at an |
11812s | absolute worst case scenario here |
11814s | Algeria could just keep pinging bunny in |
11816s | the face not only to just deal damage of |
11818s | course but to say stack up the mode rash |
11820s | for later so not a bad start in any way |
11823s | shape or form bunny though kept a few |
11825s | options open for himself keeping the |
11827s | Pelican I think it was was it Pelican |
11829s | night cloak and sorceress he kept I |
11832s | think so I think that was it which is |
11834s | obviously nice with the coin of course |
11837s | and it does make for a pretty clean |
11840s | curve for bunny because he did pick up |
11842s | the other location as well if he just |
11844s | wanted to get those both down and commit |
11846s | the Mana spent that's not necessarily |
11847s | the line because maybe he would like to |
11850s | go for deep water on Fort and then |
11852s | immediately curve coin into sorceress |
11854s | assuming the deep water had gotten him a |
11857s | spell that is of high cost which by that |
11859s | point is guaranteed our though gonna be |
11863s | aware of playing around that and trying |
11867s | not to keep any cheap spells in hand if |
11869s | possible which at the moment he doesn't |
11871s | have |
11872s | yeah it can be difficult I think I would |
11874s | like to see just a ping pass here from |
11876s | bunny just because the coin in itself |
11879s | feels so much more flexible and |
11880s | Nightclub sanctum doesn't feel like a |
11883s | must-have in this matchup and I don't |
11885s | mean it's not good it's just the fact |
11887s | that I don't think it's worth coining |
11888s | out because also there is the barber |
11890s | accessories ready but if that Belinda's |
11893s | drawn that's just mega power as early as |
11895s | possible and wow I do just picks up the |
11898s | Wildfire number two straight away this |
11900s | is you might have to feel like he pings |
11902s | the Pelican which is a bit of Overkill |
11904s | but it still deals the damage like |
11907s | yeah like the Wildfire just get it down |
11910s | it is an interesting dilemma here |
11913s | because of course spending more Mana |
11915s | with the night cloak Phantom seems kind |
11917s | of nice and even if bunny were to |
11920s | respond with his own sanctum algero |
11922s | could even go for theoretically an early |
11924s | Reckless to clean up but the question is |
11927s | when is the window to play that wildfire |
11929s | and get it out of hand because he should |
11931s | always be aware of that barbaric sorces |
11934s | at the moment he hasn't seen any mailbox |
11936s | dancer though so as long as the chief |
11938s | spells are out of hand by the turn bunny |
11940s | Hopper reaches five Mana assuming coin |
11943s | is kept then RG is still fine so he is |
11945s | just gonna go for a slightly more Mana |
11948s | efficient play for now |
11951s | yeah this is interesting though I think |
11953s | the lack of good follow-up turn for |
11955s | guaranteed was probably a reason to just |
11958s | ping more instead but I guess he |
11960s | wouldn't have been able to Ping on that |
11961s | 10-4 if he played Nike anyway so just |
11963s | gonna get locations down for both plays |
11965s | now creating those skeletons and |
11967s | actually |
11968s | I was gonna go for The Apprentice |
11972s | yeah it is pretty nice Tempo here I feel |
11975s | like Reckless Apprentice rule has |
11978s | changed a lot ever since the Nerf to |
11980s | Magister Don grasp it's a bit harder to |
11983s | use The Apprentice to really get to |
11985s | those huge upper echelons of damage so |
11988s | finding ways to actually let it push the |
11991s | attack damage in the mid game and just |
11992s | doing you know decent amounts of board |
11994s | clear is very valuable as well |
11999s | is going to be that little bit |
12001s | frustrating and I think that even if it |
12002s | gets to push damage once right itself as |
12005s | a minion it gets to push three you know |
12007s | what that card's done a great job when |
12009s | you get Drake fire though |
12012s | right oh do you will know about it and |
12014s | now with the pickup of solid Alibi there |
12016s | is not an easy way to play around |
12018s | barbaric sources and actually even if he |
12021s | hadn't played solid Alibi unless his |
12023s | turn was going to be Wildfire ping it |
12025s | was going to be Wildfire plus draw most |
12028s | likely another spell which would have |
12030s | been scary but he is going to commit to |
12033s | making sure that he is as safe around |
12036s | Barbara as possible which I think is |
12038s | very very reasonable given he saw the |
12041s | keep in Bunny's hand and you know coin |
12043s | kept until this point |
12045s | and the interesting point here is |
12047s | those bunny still go with the plan let's |
12050s | say it doesn't draw Belinda here is it |
12052s | still just coin Barber accessories or is |
12055s | that enough of a tell because it's a |
12057s | huge one right it's clearly our Giroud |
12058s | dumping his hand because you would never |
12061s | uh play solid Alibi in that situation |
12063s | because there's no damage coming your |
12065s | way but does bunny Hopper just say I'll |
12067s | take the taunt regardless and just coin |
12070s | it out anyway |
12072s | I feel like it's a strong tell and he |
12074s | still has a pretty decent alternate play |
12076s | with the school teacher plus nagaling |
12079s | um should he choose to greet the |
12082s | barbaric sorcers a bit longer because we |
12085s | are reaching the points where if aojiru |
12087s | has only three cards in hand and six |
12090s | Mana it's like not a clean Don grass |
12092s | turn yet maybe they have to go for |
12093s | drawing some cards so bunny is going to |
12096s | wait a little bit longer and gets two |
12098s | Secrets as options on the |
12101s | um nagaling however the text on nogling |
12104s | tells you what the secret is rubbish at |
12107s | keeping secrets never tell noggling |
12109s | anything |
12111s | kind of interesting as well because this |
12115s | outer spell so Joe will know he'll have |
12118s | to dump a spell into counter spell right |
12120s | but also that means algo can get rid of |
12123s | a spell from his hand but I think at |
12125s | this point even though you could argue |
12128s | this goes against what Baba exorceros |
12131s | wants to do to an extent it just argued |
12134s | that well this is just a headache for |
12135s | algera right you could dump a spell put |
12137s | into counter spell to stop it being |
12139s | barbaric which means he has to throw |
12141s | things away like this Frozen touch if he |
12143s | has to play this Frozen touch because |
12145s | he's still scared of sorceress then he |
12147s | just burns a frozen touch one of the |
12149s | best cards in the deck so I do like |
12152s | think this is correct from algero just |
12155s | to say you know what by now if they have |
12156s | it they have it but you cannot afford to |
12158s | just throw away a frozen touch right it |
12162s | has reached the point where since our |
12163s | Jew has kind of forced bunny into |
12166s | waiting one turn longer now bunny has to |
12168s | coin if he wants to play the Sorceress |
12170s | safely and you know try and get some |
12173s | benefit and Bunny also still doesn't |
12174s | know yet that there's a spell in hand |
12176s | there's starting to be some more Mind |
12178s | Games here it's the turn after Alger |
12180s | kind of telegraph that he was dumping |
12181s | and if bunny does end up using the coin |
12184s | here he actually is just a couple turns |
12187s | away from being able to coin out the |
12189s | room naturally anyway so it's not as |
12192s | huge of a detriment about you however it |
12194s | is still meaning that Bunny Gets to |
12197s | Turbo out the Rune one turn sooner |
12201s | oyster's choice to say I love this card |
12203s | because I feel like people can talk for |
12206s | days about what you should pick in a |
12208s | scenario like this where say two of the |
12210s | choices are arguably good for your |
12212s | opponent as well and it always circles |
12214s | back to just pick the card you actually |
12216s | want |
12217s | um |
12218s | yeah I think there's also some |
12220s | additional benefit to staying away from |
12223s | the super expensive ones because bunny |
12224s | still has a second sorcerer somewhere in |
12226s | the deck and that's going to be a |
12228s | complete whiff if there's a drake fire |
12230s | and Frozen touch a 10 in hand uh for the |
12233s | opponent but ajiru ends up I think |
12236s | picking the Drake fire misses and that |
12239s | is kind of painful because Cold Case |
12241s | would have been great for him as well |
12242s | yeah |
12246s | let's get Dawn grass so that's going to |
12249s | recast these solid Alibi for this turn |
12251s | of course which is a you know you can |
12252s | argue a bit of a help even though the |
12254s | first one didn't achieve too much apart |
12256s | from dodging the Sorceress of course but |
12258s | the second one is going to be able to |
12259s | soak a little bit more damage but here |
12261s | come the dragons |
12264s | perfect I think I misspoke a while ago |
12266s | it was the Drake fire amulet not the |
12269s | Rune that got discounted so I think |
12271s | three turns sooner because of that |
12273s | barbaric sorceress and just taking the |
12276s | biggest stats I think makes the most |
12279s | sense although you can argue sleepy |
12281s | dragon and a storm who both have 16 16 |
12283s | total I kind of favor taking the health |
12286s | just to be as sticky as possible |
12289s | I think so mainly because I'll be honest |
12293s | I haven't counted I'm not sure what he's |
12295s | up to but sleepy dragons one of the few |
12297s | ones that Dodges Mo trash right and I |
12299s | think that's what bunny Apple want to |
12301s | dodge to an extent to just not have the |
12303s | whole board wide it already does have |
12305s | calagos picked right so |
12310s | I think so |
12312s | look at the Sleepy Dragon just looks |
12315s | good just too super tanky okay he |
12317s | decided that because he had the color |
12318s | ghost he can afford to go for another |
12320s | dominant he does take that trade as well |
12323s | to play a little bit more on the |
12325s | calculus because if he hadn't |
12327s | um then it would have gotten traded down |
12329s | by an active more dress which it is |
12332s | and that is going to be the play for our |
12334s | Jew I think |
12336s | I mean there is some debate to be had |
12338s | here because there is a pretty juicy |
12340s | board lock opportunity with Warden Don |
12343s | grass Pierre |
12346s | yeah he could even spend the turn going |
12349s | down grasp a cold case just to get the |
12351s | counter spell out of the way |
12353s | and then have the Arcane intellect to |
12356s | follow up with |
12357s | right alternatively Don grass and |
12360s | dungeoneer and just say this is the most |
12362s | pressure on board going into the marjush |
12365s | clear turn |
12367s | it |
12369s | I thought it's going to Ping the Calico |
12371s | switch would make sense because it would |
12372s | put it in the mode Rush range but |
12374s | deciding to go face it's already at five |
12376s | and saying you know what five damage to |
12378s | face is just going to be more worthwhile |
12380s | yeah |
12382s | downside though of leaving the color |
12383s | ghost on board is that is a free rune |
12385s | for bunny if he wants to take it there |
12388s | is some danger of blowing up his own |
12390s | board having so many minions and aojiru |
12393s | only having one means that after the 3-3 |
12396s | is dead the minion targeting spells are |
12399s | likely to mop up Bunny's own pressure |
12403s | but he looks like he's gonna just make |
12405s | his own room with this ping and then |
12407s | probably starfish to unfreeze things and |
12409s | push a lot of face damage yeah this |
12411s | looks really strong doesn't it and again |
12413s | it's not the board isn't full of huge |
12416s | dragons but it's enough to give her |
12417s | Ajira a headache definitely |
12420s | especially if he's assuming there's |
12422s | going to be some kind of clear which I |
12425s | think is why he's thinking about whether |
12426s | he needs to trade into this Varden or |
12428s | not even then even if the modest gets |
12431s | played well then Bonnie can just slam |
12433s | ruin of the archmage next turn right and |
12435s | feel a lot better about it |
12441s | very responsible trade protecting the |
12443s | color goes from the mardrash |
12448s | still going to be the play and then I |
12451s | guess flurry at the end just the same |
12452s | for health yeah that's what I was going |
12454s | to ask like is this worth the flurry |
12456s | because you know in general |
12459s | bunny doesn't have tons of burst right |
12461s | because he's not playing against the |
12462s | Ping version so I |
12465s | it's a tough one yeah okay Alger is |
12467s | going to leave and say you know what put |
12468s | me to 11 it's fine I have Cold Case It's |
12471s | Gonna Save the flurry for maybe if |
12473s | there's another Drake fire if we're in |
12474s | of the archmage generates some |
12476s | additional minions somehow and I think |
12478s | this is a little bit scary but I think |
12480s | it's worth the risk here Friday yeah |
12483s | big bit scary but I totally see where |
12487s | you're coming from oh yeah there's a |
12488s | counter spell as well I wouldn't have |
12489s | done anything oh sure yeah that's a good |
12492s | you know what that kind of Spell's been |
12493s | live for so long in a mage mirror I'll |
12496s | be honest I forgot about it because how |
12498s | was uh AB chair just not cast a spell |
12501s | yeah |
12503s | and it's just so crazy how quickly the |
12507s | pressure can turn in the match-up one |
12509s | board really is all the big spell Mage |
12511s | needs to stick and conduct face and |
12513s | there was only the one of starfish so I |
12516s | don't fault out you for not playing |
12518s | around it there but we'll see if that |
12521s | risk pays off uh algero can potentially |
12524s | Stave off this entire board still and |
12526s | Bunny doesn't have much guaranteed |
12529s | direct damage unless the Rune wants to |
12531s | play ball ooh |
12534s | is still dealing five on the hero power |
12536s | I believe uh yes I believe so |
12538s | can now dump the flurry |
12542s | it'll play Reckless Cold Case hero power |
12544s | light |
12546s | seems as good as it's going to get to me |
12548s | I agree it's very valuable to get that |
12551s | for armor and also push the 10 damage |
12554s | face |
12555s | which means bunny is in within range of |
12559s | three pings three turns is what our Jew |
12562s | needs here may be expedited by the |
12564s | skeleton death rattles but it's crucial |
12568s | that that's his last Reckless Apprentice |
12569s | so if you were to draw a bran it's not |
12572s | really adding much damage right |
12578s | thank you |
12580s | yeah here we go no one surprise |
12582s | whatsoever the box has been opened roon |
12585s | of the archmage coming down from bunny |
12586s | Hopper and he needs something big |
12587s | because very suddenly he's found himself |
12589s | in some trouble |
12591s | these are all not clearing the board so |
12593s | far okay that's big money yeah yeah |
12598s | and Algeria will have seen from the |
12600s | Arcane Brilliance that only one card got |
12602s | added to hand so what whichever it was |
12606s | that he hadn't seen yet whether it was |
12609s | the Drake Fire or the Rune already in |
12611s | hand now the other one is there as well |
12615s | okay definitely not ruined orb I don't |
12618s | think Bunny wants to give auju any |
12620s | potential access to more damage yeah |
12622s | because any more damage because at the |
12624s | moment I think Bunny's on 11. but that's |
12627s | still three pings without anything extra |
12629s | of course right so you cannot speed that |
12632s | up |
12634s | unless he knows al-jira would know this |
12638s | speak through a knob and LG was like |
12640s | he's never picking ruined up |
12643s | it's a really difficult one I feel like |
12646s | hmm |
12647s | given the state where a bunny still has |
12651s | another secret and play an hourger also |
12653s | just kind of wants to play around |
12655s | counterspell again it would make the |
12657s | most sense for a bunny to give Algeria |
12658s | the most expensive card and make playing |
12660s | around that as difficult as possible so |
12662s | that fire sale makes a lot of sense to |
12664s | me and to algero as well nicely done to |
12666s | pick that up even if just to use it as a |
12669s | tradable Frozen no |
12672s | that expedites the clock |
12675s | also throwing the Arcane intellect right |
12678s | just to test for the counter spell |
12681s | absolutely |
12684s | um he could trade the fire sale first if |
12686s | that is going to be the card if the AI |
12690s | is going to be the card to test with |
12693s | unless he wants to well you'll see what |
12696s | he draws okay just because I was |
12698s | thinking unless he wants another spell |
12700s | just in case there's another Rune of the |
12702s | archmage that casts another Mage secret |
12704s | so he needs a dumpable spell and then |
12706s | two men and for Frozen touch two men |
12708s | have a pig |
12709s | yeah true there are many different ways |
12711s | of approaching the order on that turn |
12713s | and in most worlds it doesn't end up |
12715s | being counter spell so it makes a lot of |
12717s | sense what algero ended up on now bunny |
12720s | Hopper needs a miracle he has no solid |
12724s | Alibi of his own at the moment but there |
12727s | is a rune which could cast one or it |
12730s | could just get lethal if he's really |
12732s | lucky well he also I believe |
12735s | oh did the darkling uh |
12738s | pick the deal two damage reduce cast |
12741s | arcane |
12743s | wood I can't remember |
12746s | the name of the card but I think he's |
12748s | got deal two damage in that naggling so |
12750s | it doesn't matter as much now because I |
12752s | I was wondering if he was gonna just go |
12754s | ruin of the archmage first and then have |
12756s | two damage in hand you know maybe if |
12758s | that's some weird lethal maybe that's |
12760s | the point is that |
12762s | ruins kind of cold Gateway okay that's |
12765s | armor that's something |
12768s | yeah I mean he's safe from the damage we |
12772s | saw anyway right the pink and just the |
12774s | one Frozen touch |
12776s | that Frozen touch will be infused though |
12779s | by the end of this turn or our Guru |
12782s | could just Infuse it himself oh sure so |
12784s | I think aljiru doesn't need to worry |
12787s | about ice barrier necessarily |
12791s | he does need to worry about counter |
12793s | spells so I think the play is to test |
12795s | with solid alibi |
12797s | and then go Frozen touch Frozen touch |
12799s | pink and that should get him to win 100 |
12801s | of the time |
12803s | yeah those frozen touch end states are |
12805s | so strong when it's infused it's so much |
12807s | damage for so few mana and algeru |
12809s | getting the job done the keep on the |
12812s | dawn grass the pushing the pings as |
12813s | often as possible just about was enough |
12816s | and it was a really close game honestly |
12819s | for game number one bunny Hopper looked |
12821s | way ahead with the big dragon board but |
12823s | after declare from Algeria and that |
12825s | extra damage it was looking fantastic |
12826s | and suddenly Alger is just one zero up |
12829s | in the series winning that Mage mirror |
12831s | and looking good for the rest of it I |
12833s | know you said you would sort of lean |
12835s | towards bunny hopper in terms of who's |
12837s | favored in the series but I think when |
12839s | you just look at the decks unless this |
12840s | date for me unless this Demon Hunter |
12842s | really Falls over |
12844s | um which he could do like I think |
12846s | Algeria is looking fantastic now the |
12848s | Mage the other way yeah that's very fair |
12850s | the Demon Hunter does have a lot of |
12853s | teeth against Shaman just um Decks that |
12856s | struggle dealing with individual huge |
12858s | minions which is the case for Shaman |
12860s | ever since they've cut snowfall Guardian |
12863s | um devolving the huge relic of Phantasm |
12866s | tokens is not necessarily a good idea |
12869s | but the Demon Hunter itself is also |
12872s | vulnerable to a quicker aggressive start |
12874s | so maybe if bunny were to get you know |
12877s | just a really strong curve with murlocs |
12880s | on the shaman or on this big spell Mage |
12882s | if they if he got a Belinda pretty early |
12884s | then it is still doable but overall |
12887s | aogiro looking very very good in this |
12889s | series and we do have that frame stuff |
12892s | that she loved talking about |
12894s | yeah I mean it's just great I love when |
12896s | just a little tech cards slip into the |
12899s | deck and it's just like okay and it wins |
12902s | games as we saw earlier on or at least |
12904s | dramatically helps there's also the |
12905s | other uh game-winning tool there in the |
12908s | key cards uh maybe you can tell that I |
12910s | did these but glug the gulper uh if you |
12913s | play this card you simply win the game |
12915s | that should be the stats on that card uh |
12918s | but yeah this is the uh mid-range Shaman |
12920s | from bunny Hopper and a bit of a |
12923s | surprise uh for with the submissions |
12925s | because I don't think anyone was really |
12926s | expecting Shaman I think Shaman after |
12928s | the Nerfs was very okay it wasn't good I |
12933s | would say but bunny Hopper seems to |
12935s | decide this is good enough and it's |
12936s | looking good so far |
12939s | yeah it is one of the ducks that got hit |
12941s | very very hard by the Nerf to snowfall |
12943s | guardian and yet it still ends up having |
12946s | quite enough tools it was a deck that |
12948s | was doing so many different things |
12950s | already that losing one of those tools |
12952s | did make it lose one of its angles which |
12955s | is you know cheesing out wins against |
12956s | Decks that go a bit greedier than it on |
12959s | board but it still has quite a lot of |
12961s | the good anti-aggro tools and a lot of |
12964s | combo disruption tools with that |
12966s | mutinous and the doubling Battle Cry |
12968s | effects and we see bunny Hopper's list |
12971s | going Less on the greedy side he's cut a |
12974s | famish tool he's cut an insatiable |
12975s | Devourer which I think is a good call |
12977s | for the field this week gonna be facing |
12981s | the curse imp warlock though which I |
12983s | tend to think Shaman struggles a bit |
12985s | against the damage from the curses |
12987s | stocks up really really heavily and they |
12989s | don't have that much access to heal |
12991s | outside of a big denaturia swing so |
12994s | bunny gonna have to turn up the pressure |
12996s | I think to get this one yeah I think |
12998s | this has been true since Shaman had the |
13001s | nerves is that a lot of match-ups rely |
13004s | heavily on the shaman player really |
13007s | really wanting um our schooling in their |
13009s | opening hand right because it gives you |
13011s | so many like cheap anti-aggro options |
13014s | that is such a key card and can often be |
13016s | the difference between Ellie staying in |
13019s | the game and being completely run over |
13020s | like this air warlock is capable of |
13023s | doing uh so we'll have to see how this |
13025s | one goes there's the uh |
13028s | probably not a keep in this matchup but |
13031s | if he does get to play it I promise you |
13032s | he'll win but there's schooling as well |
13034s | and monk pools with the game on it why |
13038s | would you not keep a purified Shard |
13039s | Raven you've got to get to turn seven |
13042s | first that's the problem I guess turn |
13044s | six with the coin maybe it simply was a |
13046s | keep |
13048s | well there's the schooling which is the |
13049s | other when the game card you're talking |
13051s | about plus some muck pools which means |
13053s | that bunny is one null away from great |
13055s | success uh but even if you were not to |
13058s | draw the null schooling still provides a |
13060s | lot of great great removal potential |
13063s | against |
13064s | um early minions from the M4 lock |
13067s | outside of exactly fiendish Circle which |
13069s | is the one where you feel bad about |
13070s | trading one for one with the piranhas |
13075s | but open in here at least good enough |
13078s | for now via Library available for ajiru |
13082s | that's right not really doing much of a |
13086s | buff at the moment |
13088s | um |
13089s | whether or not |
13092s | um our Euro gives plus one plus one to |
13094s | the Imp it would take two piranhas |
13096s | played to remove it it just makes a |
13099s | difference of two piranhas traded or not |
13106s | I really like the early Buffet |
13109s | pile on the pressure and make bunny hop |
13111s | have an answer an even worse case right |
13114s | now ajiru does have a playable turn |
13117s | three right it's not either hand is |
13119s | completely rubbish which is good |
13121s | up on the other hand can go for the |
13123s | Sleep breaker I could point out for easy |
13126s | if he's really worried about the damage |
13130s | holding out just a little bit longer the |
13132s | window to draw Knoll is still wide open |
13134s | as long as he has kept the piranhas and |
13137s | the coin in hand |
13142s | cultists to start the curse train and |
13145s | also overdraw bunny Hopper a cart seems |
13148s | nicely placed here |
13149s | yeah not going for the wicked shipment |
13151s | librarian this turn purely because yeah |
13155s | it's more stuff on board but when he |
13157s | knows the fish are in the hand there's |
13159s | kind of no point so I do like this as |
13161s | well just put a little bit more of a |
13162s | singular tanky minion burn the card |
13165s | you opening up as a response can be |
13170s | and you just know RG is really serious |
13172s | because he's in his like most sober |
13174s | outfit I've ever seen yeah right now |
13176s | looking comfy |
13179s | and ready to focus on the gameplay |
13183s | uh that Finley being burned not a huge |
13186s | deal I would say |
13188s | but bunny has once again left himself |
13191s | nine cards in hand that other curse will |
13194s | expire though so I guess it doesn't |
13195s | really make sense to play the other |
13197s | cultist here |
13199s | yeah and I do like getting the car |
13201s | drawer as well just letting him uh |
13203s | letting Algeria get a plan for the |
13205s | future as well see what's coming up and |
13207s | also has the benefit of well if you go |
13209s | wide with M's draw cards you might hit |
13212s | cards like mischievous in like imp King |
13214s | reform and then the fact you went wide |
13216s | means they're going to start infusing |
13218s | those cards you just drew uh for you |
13220s | anyway so it all seems to line up pretty |
13222s | well and the opposite we're gonna have |
13224s | to very quickly start entering this |
13226s | board and he's still only really got a |
13229s | few piranha to do so |
13232s | that's right six damage to allocate |
13236s | which combined with the school teacher |
13238s | can get rid of all the most threatening |
13240s | minions here uh but it is pretty |
13242s | expensive to do so so just freezing the |
13245s | problem away for now I think makes sense |
13247s | gonna involve his school teacher let's |
13249s | see what the five drop is |
13251s | so relaxing I was just about to say five |
13255s | drops I feel are either very good or |
13257s | very bad |
13259s | we did learn this from jaundice didn't |
13260s | we yeah |
13263s | you know still not amazing stats for the |
13266s | cost but |
13268s | challenges the board that's the |
13269s | important part any way he can bounce |
13272s | this |
13273s | and play the long game |
13276s | yeah I want to try getting no duplicates |
13279s | left in your deck which still has 30 |
13281s | cards because you're playing around easy |
13283s | look putting up is already halfway there |
13285s | right he's running only one of the |
13287s | framesters so and a few legendaries so |
13290s | he's doing okay |
13292s | it's a bit rough to have played far side |
13294s | and then drawn the null which is like |
13297s | after he's just played both of the |
13299s | locations so it's still going to be on |
13301s | cooldown next turn and it creates this |
13304s | sort of awkward in-between turn where |
13306s | bunny I think if he hadn't drawn the |
13309s | null was going to play the Piranhas most |
13311s | of the time to get rid of that five six |
13312s | which would then be unfrozen but now |
13314s | playing these piranhas makes the null so |
13316s | much more expensive in the next turn |
13319s | yeah you might end up with like a rental |
13321s | hero power as a potential backup plan |
13323s | because I think he can take the damage |
13325s | for the trade-off of actually getting an |
13326s | evolved null on board |
13329s | depends how jiru can just go for a |
13332s | temple zap cool here that's just the |
13334s | most pressure on board trades really |
13336s | nicely with the Reno and even though |
13337s | this is just the second curse |
13341s | um he has the third in hand already |
13351s | maybe actually just randfl play the |
13353s | curse seems okay here |
13355s | right and kill the Zack oil and just |
13357s | take the hit it's a little bit scary but |
13360s | null could really change the pace of the |
13363s | game right if he gets one of the you |
13364s | know the big stats then you can actually |
13365s | start racing algero because this warlock |
13368s | doesn't really have that many ways to |
13370s | kill actually big minions |
13373s | could be but I think maybe the trade-off |
13378s | of leaving the seven damage on board is |
13380s | not necessarily worth it for a random 10 |
13382s | drop evolve he does have two roles on it |
13384s | but if he doesn't immediately get Rush |
13386s | it's a lot of damage that gets left on |
13389s | board and even if he were to play three |
13392s | piranhas this turn it's not as though |
13393s | the null is unplayable next turn it's |
13395s | just more expensive it's gonna go for it |
13398s | this turn though just taking the trade |
13400s | even more discipline play than what I |
13403s | was thinking which is just to use the |
13405s | Piranhas to trade |
13407s | yeah the this is this is the most |
13409s | defensive play right save him the most |
13411s | health this turn which is fine and my |
13413s | only worry is he takes a little bit of |
13415s | damage from the curse next turn and as |
13417s | of this moment in time this school |
13419s | teacher has a lot of work to do for |
13422s | bunny Hopper next turn right to uh help |
13424s | with the uh the just the lack of |
13426s | anything to do in response to see |
13429s | I'm shocked to not see times in this |
13431s | turn honestly |
13433s | three threes or more pressure but at |
13435s | least one of them is dead on board to a |
13437s | trade and just that time's in to clear a |
13439s | 2-3 get more cards drawn and just have |
13443s | it active seeing pretty clean to spend |
13445s | the Mana that turn I am generally a big |
13448s | fan of playing times in on curve unless |
13451s | any of the play wins you the game and |
13453s | you know what I mean and I do agree with |
13455s | you I think time's done curve looked |
13457s | pretty good there |
13460s | all right uh a primordial wave to |
13465s | re-roll more evolves seems |
13468s | pretty decent |
13470s | because he's been getting understated |
13473s | um stats for for cost on every single |
13475s | roll so far if you played it now after |
13478s | trade he gets three five eight right |
13482s | yes and the two I guess |
13487s | oh cargo guard armor is very relevant |
13489s | here |
13491s | and of course good stats on the five |
13494s | drop and the eight eight those are fair |
13498s | and the the boulder is also yeah and the |
13500s | party plays it as death yeah I was gonna |
13502s | say even just Eckhart he chooses to play |
13504s | anyway pretty good |
13511s | so Tamsin still gets a bit of work done |
13516s | here in conjunction with the grimoire of |
13519s | sacrifice |
13522s | yeah it does clear everything right if |
13524s | he sacrifices the 3-2 |
13527s | times in trade three four in the murazon |
13530s | yes looks like it to me and I think |
13533s | that's |
13533s | simply the play right like nothing else |
13536s | is really available for algero and the |
13538s | biggest problem here is that cargo guard |
13540s | like yes the wallet can stack a lot of |
13542s | damage from curses |
13543s | but he doesn't have them yet so he needs |
13547s | to buy time to get there and he can't |
13548s | just take this kind of hit |
13550s | right just |
13553s | yeah that gets sacrificed and then done |
13556s | I mean I guess there was a |
13559s | slightly better order to see options |
13561s | which was trade the 3-2 in the 8A then |
13564s | play time you can see if you need to |
13566s | grow more but I don't think there's any |
13567s | other card you would spend the last one |
13569s | mana on then Grim or so fair enough I |
13571s | think that's why I was initially |
13572s | confused because I would have done it |
13573s | that way like made the 3-2 trade and |
13575s | then you know done the things but yeah |
13577s | this works out more or less the same |
13579s | like you said you had to grimoire anyway |
13585s | okay |
13587s | Newton is on empty board seems very good |
13590s | to me |
13592s | or lowest roll hit though is this an |
13597s | evolve though I think it is right eight |
13599s | drop over seven six oh no |
13602s | less pressure |
13608s | on to follow up with those so it's not |
13611s | all bad for buddy right and that is |
13613s | going on turn eight so it doesn't |
13615s | overload into the denatures turn which |
13617s | is nice but you can see just how upset |
13620s | Bunny Gets at every single like |
13625s | um slightly understated outcome because |
13627s | this is more Health than the 76 but it's |
13629s | so important to get that pressure in |
13631s | because the window is closing he's at |
13633s | 19. |
13634s | um there's like three curse cards played |
13636s | already I think I'm not getting any |
13639s | younger |
13641s | yeah |
13644s | very scary yeah I think it's two because |
13646s | it was just a zackle and one Syracuse |
13649s | right there's been no actual drag below |
13651s | our uh wave but |
13653s | just getting the first two out of the |
13655s | way I think is a big deal because when |
13658s | these next set of curses starting when |
13660s | they start going three four five is when |
13662s | you start going ouch like the one not a |
13665s | big deal but when it starts hitting hard |
13666s | like it's a little bit scary indeed |
13672s | looks like he is leaning more towards |
13674s | the curse plan |
13678s | he went wide and saying he just doesn't |
13680s | have any AOE which again is a fairly |
13682s | reasonable assumption against the shaman |
13684s | they often do not have any way to close |
13686s | super wide boards |
13688s | yeah slergel being the best one and |
13691s | that's pretty difficult to put together |
13692s | without a Gore Lock And even if this |
13695s | board does manage to get cleared Uhuru |
13698s | has the instant reform follow-up which I |
13700s | think is the main logic behind the play |
13702s | alternatively he also has Tamsin Abyssal |
13705s | wave which is Curse number four and five |
13708s | so just attacking from many different |
13711s | fronts here this is sick the rifle bunny |
13713s | Hopper triple trade if he wants it and |
13715s | then just primarily a wave |
13717s | board seems insane |
13719s | up six drops and a nine draw Oh yes any |
13724s | fins go |
13727s | yeah hero novalicious four tiny fins |
13730s | that's good luck if I've ever seen it |
13733s | and the next year as well there for |
13734s | bunny so it's going to be a couple of |
13736s | extra minions |
13737s | any kind of thing you can get at this |
13739s | point |
13741s | but is this just lethal throughout you |
13744s | because like that other person hand is |
13746s | dealing with you right for the second |
13749s | hit oh that's a ton never mind and then |
13751s | there's four and five with Tamsin that |
13753s | would have been I think one off |
13755s | uh |
13756s | still though I think Tom's in double a |
13759s | Bissell wave is still very oh yeah just |
13762s | take it yeah you take that every day not |
13764s | only is it just doing the curse work but |
13766s | it's also just killing the board which |
13769s | is very very scary right now and I think |
13770s | you you said it before where |
13773s | the opposite ability to actually |
13775s | threaten to kill uh algero here it's |
13779s | very important in this matchup and it's |
13781s | just not been there and Algeria is clear |
13782s | now it's just making that the case even |
13785s | further right still on 30 clears this |
13788s | board which was you know pretty |
13790s | threatening in itself Bonnie's gonna |
13792s | take all this curse damage he can't play |
13794s | dinathrius yet and he simply has to |
13797s | spend the manner on these curses at |
13800s | least |
13801s | right |
13803s | playing okanie does create some problems |
13806s | for Algeria because he doesn't have that |
13807s | last four damage which is a really big |
13809s | deal because the denatures can stabilize |
13812s | bunny in theory he just lives through |
13814s | this turn so if arojira were to draw a |
13816s | drag below that's the out |
13818s | no more Sierra cast left well we would |
13822s | do it too he's got a draw and a trade |
13824s | with the wicked shipment yeah go for it |
13827s | and I think you go for it right there's |
13829s | no shot in which you don't actually just |
13831s | do everything for this because he has |
13833s | one cost spells he can still test for |
13835s | okani spell counter no matter which he |
13837s | picks up that is the draw he went for it |
13842s | he got it and the curse lock strikes |
13845s | again huge win for algeru uh really |
13849s | impressive then bunny Hopper just |
13850s | couldn't quite get there he was building |
13853s | the threatening boards but they just |
13855s | weren't quite big enough a little bit |
13856s | unlucky with some evolves but look at |
13858s | how giru here now you know you were |
13860s | saying before only recently been you |
13862s | know heating at this kind of level and |
13865s | what a big win it would be to actually |
13867s | take out bunny hopper in the winners |
13869s | match of the group because not only is |
13871s | just getting this far incredible and |
13874s | getting out of groups is fantastic but |
13875s | beating I'll give you one of the best |
13877s | players in the world on stream is uh |
13879s | something you wouldn't mind adding to |
13881s | your resume |
13882s | absolutely and just the gravity of every |
13885s | single match in these seasonal |
13886s | championships cannot be overstated just |
13889s | getting one step closer one step closer |
13892s | to the world championship and it so |
13893s | happens that you just need to make it to |
13895s | Sunday and then win one more match in |
13898s | order to make it through so for ajiru is |
13900s | thinking if I can just win this game two |
13902s | more matches and then through two worlds |
13904s | which is a very very exciting position |
13907s | to be in but also one where you can get |
13910s | a little bit too much in your head and |
13912s | tripped up so I'm just hoping to see |
13914s | full Focus going into what is |
13917s | potentially the last game of the series |
13919s | yeah and I tell you what if you want to |
13922s | see some almost like maximum Stakes |
13924s | Hearthstone make sure to tune in for |
13926s | those matches tomorrow for the uh |
13928s | basically the winning ins for worlds |
13931s | tomorrow that's going to be so so cute |
13933s | but for now we're looking at our zoo on |
13935s | this Relic Demon Hunter a deck we've |
13938s | seen |
13939s | look good on one you know in certain |
13942s | games I think it's just the summary of |
13943s | the deck we talked a lot about this |
13944s | yesterday where it either dominates or |
13948s | does nothing it feels like it's a very |
13950s | Feast off I mean kind of deck and I |
13953s | guess Algeria was just hoping now come |
13956s | on Relic Demon Hunter give me Relic |
13958s | vault which it has and give me |
13961s | dimensions and that is normally good |
13965s | enough |
13967s | it is but I'm gonna raise you a far |
13970s | watch post |
13972s | potentially even on turn one |
13974s | that can really wreck what Relic DH |
13978s | wants to do default okay yeah it can do |
13982s | it can do but bunny Hopper uh clearly as |
13986s | well go he kept the mailbox and the Rune |
13989s | of the archmage I believe and then got |
13992s | the mode dress so even though the |
13995s | overall plan is there both decks are |
13997s | basically |
13998s | trying to do the same thing right not |
14001s | completely whiff in the early game both |
14003s | decks tick that box right now and then |
14006s | have those end game Power spikes so be |
14009s | very very spicy indeed how this one |
14011s | plays out |
14013s | only choosing to hold on to the coin |
14015s | here I think is very reasonable because |
14018s | the nature of his curve if he had gone |
14020s | watch post on one into mailbox answer it |
14022s | was pass pass pass pass like the |
14025s | Fortress and the Rune he had just |
14026s | nothing else uh I think the watch post |
14029s | has to come down now though because the |
14031s | window for it is closing pretty quickly |
14034s | at least for the disruption to be |
14036s | significant and it's already pretty easy |
14038s | for Alger to deal with it currently |
14041s | though will take |
14043s | I think two debuffs because the chaos |
14046s | strike plus hero power just seems a bit |
14049s | cleaner than using Fury here I think I |
14051s | like Fury though instead I think you see |
14054s | Finley got hit and you don't care and |
14057s | then you just say you know what I'll |
14059s | just count I'll just fiori hero power |
14061s | Kelly and then carry on with the game I |
14063s | think maybe I'm too worried about |
14065s | hitting a card like you know Dimensions |
14067s | making it cost that bit more coming down |
14069s | that turn |
14070s | um later but it's a tough choice |
14073s | actually it's not straightforward like |
14075s | getting the mannering for card draws you |
14076s | said is obviously valuable you're |
14078s | drawing a card sooner and spending your |
14080s | Mana more efficiently but |
14082s | I think if I was sat there in algeria's |
14085s | chair I would press the fury but I'm |
14087s | also a bit of a wuss yeah I mean Audrey |
14090s | was having that exact same dilemma and |
14092s | end up with predation oh okay okay the |
14094s | best one that's just gonna go to zero |
14096s | anyway |
14097s | um but I absolutely see your point |
14099s | there's a couple cards in the deck even |
14101s | like Dimensions being the big one but |
14103s | the likes of Jace |
14105s | um or any other Relic going up honestly |
14108s | just by one Mana can uh ruin potential |
14111s | Combos and delay them a whole entire |
14113s | turn more but on the flip side there's |
14115s | that Fury which is more Mana efficient |
14118s | and also can get stronger and be in the |
14121s | Jace pool as a stronger card if held on |
14125s | to for a bit later so so many pros and |
14127s | cons to wait honestly I wouldn't have |
14129s | minded either way I still can't believe |
14131s | larger gives the not okay watch post |
14133s | again what's the draw it's relic of |
14135s | dimensions of course is but he has to be |
14138s | very happy that that previous draw was |
14141s | predation because look how good this |
14144s | turn is perfect |
14146s | yeah and I think bunny realizes like |
14148s | what he said I've got predation for that |
14150s | chaos strike come on yeah that is very |
14154s | unfortunate and I think I would you |
14156s | insta-picked the relic of phantasms from |
14158s | the noggling every single extra Relic |
14161s | you can get from card Generations just |
14162s | feels so amazing that's why you're |
14165s | running the school teachers that's why |
14166s | you're running |
14167s | um in algeria's case the one of venomous |
14169s | scorpid he also has that prosecutor |
14172s | beltronics in the list which is not |
14174s | something that is standard for Relic th |
14177s | but can come in handy if you are in a |
14180s | winning position I actually felt like |
14182s | it's more of an aggro card but have been |
14184s | really surprised about its utility |
14187s | foreign |
14194s | well he could play the dimensions now |
14197s | just trade into the mailbox and grab |
14200s | himself a nice juicy coin |
14204s | yeah he really wants to play that |
14205s | naggling first though doesn't he answers |
14209s | yeah it makes a big difference |
14214s | ever go slow and just like chaos strike |
14218s | see what he draws then go noggling braid |
14222s | get the coins for next turn |
14225s | the fear is the answer I guess |
14230s | um what's her name barbaric sorceress |
14233s | right one |
14235s | there's no good way to play around it |
14237s | necessarily unless he wanted to cash in |
14239s | the fury just like this as well |
14242s | um so I guess he is going to go for that |
14244s | however bunny could still just trade the |
14246s | mailbox dancers at will |
14249s | so are you going to trade both of them |
14252s | and play both coins |
14255s | okay |
14258s | it just looks like a weird turn but this |
14261s | is being safe around barbaric so I |
14264s | completely respect it and he's still |
14265s | very much capable of playing the relic |
14267s | of Dimensions next turn |
14271s | yeah unless the bar break comes down |
14273s | right because then it'll hit her right |
14275s | like oh true that's the scary thing if |
14277s | it but as you was just saying look I'm |
14281s | not gonna give them a zero cost because |
14283s | there's a big difference right between a |
14285s | zero and a six even though it's referral |
14287s | gear if it happens we can of course see |
14289s | that there isn't our Baba sorceress and |
14292s | suddenly |
14294s | some Pelicans |
14296s | and a fish thing but that's about it |
14299s | yeah this is such a weird hand for bunny |
14301s | or like every other card than the Rune |
14305s | of the archmage is trash I guess the |
14306s | coins are part of that whole package so |
14309s | it looked really tempting to use thinly |
14311s | to re-roll those coins into actual good |
14314s | cards but he is going all in on the Rune |
14317s | here which I understand |
14319s | and big question here kirchers now that |
14322s | it's drawn does that take priority over |
14325s | Relic just because Algeria is not Juiced |
14327s | it okay he was looking at gertras but no |
14329s | gonna go for the dimensions and let's |
14331s | see what he gets oh she bran oh my |
14336s | oh |
14339s | and also zero spells which is actually |
14342s | kind of huge that |
14344s | that that's insane not that funny has |
14346s | barbaric but it's just peace of mind for |
14349s | our true |
14352s | well |
14353s | Arun and a dream |
14355s | yeah has |
14358s | yeah but he's not ain't any spells right |
14361s | this game |
14363s | I forgetting something I don't think so |
14365s | I was just thinking why the coin down |
14367s | grasp is ever a consideration but I |
14370s | don't think it does anything unless I'm |
14373s | really missing something let me check |
14376s | it was like okay |
14377s | yeah watch post mail watch post mail |
14381s | post god fire watch post mailbox dancer |
14383s | and Pelican diver |
14385s | that's it so yeah Don grasp would just |
14387s | be activate Hero power gain some armor |
14390s | and I think |
14393s | you okay I thought it was just gonna be |
14395s | gone |
14396s | all right I guess this is respecting the |
14399s | refill potential because in the end this |
14401s | is just three one ones right bunny is |
14403s | not under that much pressure probably |
14405s | saving the rune for after he's seen |
14407s | another phantasms or whatever got |
14409s | discounted from that relic of Dimensions |
14411s | because bunny doesn't have the immediate |
14413s | follow-up of uh parrot or a second |
14418s | and now Drew has refilled for days |
14424s | actually I can just like do what he |
14426s | wants yeah he's almost got too much yeah |
14431s | I think he could get away with just |
14433s | playing cultures honestly and just |
14435s | double hero power this turn I think that |
14437s | would be fine with the two one ones it |
14439s | does push a lot of damage yeah |
14441s | and just simply the brand okay wouldn't |
14443s | really block that much but right right |
14446s | yeah |
14447s | yeah I I think I just like the |
14450s | characters it's the most expensive |
14451s | clunky card outside of artificial but |
14454s | artificial will do a different job later |
14455s | anyway so I think I like this it's just |
14458s | a lot of damage it's a good amount of |
14459s | pressure and he's already seen that |
14461s | Bunny Hop is struggling right because |
14463s | outside of the watch posts |
14466s | but the upper's not exactly been rocking |
14467s | his apologies right now he's a pelican |
14469s | pass on turn five and then coin uh don |
14473s | grasp into nothing on turn six |
14477s | oh |
14479s | this is just slightly weird order |
14481s | because I thought our was gonna weave in |
14483s | the two hero Powers so yeah me too but |
14487s | because he played okani I think he was |
14488s | meant to attack first before playing |
14490s | coaches just to have a bit more attack |
14492s | on the bats not a huge deal in the grand |
14494s | scheme of things though I think it was |
14496s | definitely a turn where even though you |
14498s | can argue oh well it wasn't perfect play |
14500s | but you can understand why your mind |
14503s | might change halfway through that turn |
14505s | right |
14506s | and it is still a significant economy |
14508s | because it blocked the coin coin Rune |
14510s | turn |
14514s | it's sorceress but |
14517s | oh |
14519s | empty parrot as well oh anybody |
14529s | rolls off of the school teacher either |
14532s | yeah and honestly for Bonnie Loki had |
14536s | the 2-3 because if he didn't freeze face |
14538s | never mind The Relic parts of the the |
14541s | deck right just what five minions just |
14543s | hitting face along with the hero powers |
14545s | like that's an insane amount of damage |
14548s | by itself just with kirchers uh-huh that |
14550s | would have been 12 damage from the hero |
14552s | power with two Mana to spare so makes a |
14556s | whole lot of sense to freeze face here |
14558s | but aljiru can still just double play |
14561s | rally before he mentions if you wanted |
14562s | he could go zymox |
14569s | okay I didn't know whether he's gonna go |
14571s | for like a brand school teacher instead |
14576s | yeah maybe but oh my that also makes |
14580s | some hand space issues so I think in |
14582s | terms of the priority of cards to put in |
14585s | hand |
14586s | um the drawn cards from Relic are a much |
14590s | better deal than the random nagaling so |
14593s | look at all of this damage there's now a |
14596s | zero cost Relic Vault I imagine Algeria |
14599s | is going to at least consider playing |
14601s | the uh |
14602s | Extinction yeah just to push more stunno |
14606s | damage |
14606s | yeah and also just get it out of hand |
14608s | right |
14611s | okay he's gonna hold |
14614s | more stuff oh yeah I don't yeah I don't |
14617s | blame him that was an incredible series |
14620s | some very close games in the uh the |
14624s | first two thumbs up from Algeria of |
14625s | course but um that last game that felt |
14628s | so one-sided and I think the key is like |
14631s | we talked about earlier the answers to |
14633s | the watch posts were absolutely key |
14635s | there even though one of them hit the |
14637s | relic of Dimensions the fact that aljiru |
14639s | got the clean school teacher into |
14641s | predation to kill the second one it was |
14644s | perfect and what a win faujiru not only |
14647s | going 3-0 and making it through to |
14649s | tomorrow but also doing it by beating |
14652s | bunny Hopper 3-0 what a victory |
14654s | absolutely he can get a whole lot of |
14657s | rest because his work is done very early |
14659s | in the day but for bunny Hopper the |
14661s | story is very different having to wait |
14663s | at the decider match we still have to |
14667s | see the outcome of lovestorm versus |
14669s | zochi and all of this of course in |
14673s | regards to who will get that last spot |
14675s | in group C through to tomorrow and that |
14678s | chance to make it through to the World |
14680s | Championship it's still a lot more ahead |
14682s | of us but our players cannot afford to |
14685s | feel like they have time to rest yeah |
14687s | we've got the rest of Group C going to |
14689s | be playing out coming up right right now |
14691s | sorry and then of course we're going to |
14692s | finish the day playing through all of |
14694s | Group D so plenty of Hearthstone coming |
14696s | up we are going to go to a quick break |
14698s | while we set up that match we'll be back |
14700s | soon |
14704s | thank you |
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14883s | [Applause] |
14886s | [Music] |
14897s | hello everybody and welcome back to the |
14898s | Masters Tour fall Championship my name's |
14901s | tjm joyed by Neil Lorinda Bond AKA |
14903s | Lorinda Bond AKA at the rinda games Neil |
14907s | how you doing buddy yep absolutely great |
14909s | all the better for that amazing intro as |
14912s | ever and just still contrasting really |
14915s | today's action with yesterday's with |
14916s | even though that was a 3-0 the games are |
14918s | longer the matches seem more thoughtful |
14920s | they're not more thoughtful there's a |
14921s | lot of thought went into yesterday's |
14922s | games but actual two and Frozen things |
14925s | are happening whereas yesterday people |
14927s | were just getting blown off the park and |
14931s | that's a thing that could happen TJ in |
14934s | this particular one because Druid is |
14937s | here |
14938s | foreign |
14940s | because Druid yeah because Druid it |
14944s | could just lose three times to The |
14946s | Fairly aggressive lineup from the other |
14948s | side |
14949s | um so be interesting to see if love |
14951s | storm can get away with that Druid |
14952s | especially as he has gone with the |
14954s | alignment version I think |
14957s | until there was one there a minute ago |
14958s | when I looked yesterday there was an |
14960s | alignment there which is kind of two |
14963s | wasted Cards Against the aggressive |
14964s | decks as well because by the time you |
14965s | can play your alignment you've either |
14966s | won or stable or lost or stabilized |
14969s | anyway so well really not surely here's |
14973s | Neil were in the barn then post your |
14975s | alignment is a way for you to pull |
14976s | yourself up |
14977s | Buy bootstraps |
14980s | and uh steal a win you know let's say |
14983s | you have one more turn to live and you |
14984s | have like lady anacondra and nourish |
14988s | in hand or lady anacondra and he played |
14990s | a jewelry Carpenter so you have both |
14992s | halves of the nourishing hand and then |
14994s | boom you live you survive at two Health |
14996s | leaning in a contract nerves for Ram |
14998s | nurse for draw nature spell nature spell |
15000s | planet evidence play something big wow |
15003s | you just drew into insatiable devour you |
15005s | killed their giant minion that's on |
15007s | board whoa you picked up a free Earth in |
15008s | Scales because of Lady anacondra boom |
15012s | I'm just saying necklace and you're like |
15015s | commentating the match |
15016s | yeah I'm just guiding you through a |
15019s | scenario that's possible to happen |
15021s | so we don't want to count it out yet |
15024s | okay well it's not even being played yet |
15026s | so definitely not counting out in this |
15028s | one because love storm has queued up The |
15030s | Relic Demon Hunter first |
15033s | um we've said all there is to say about |
15035s | this deck I think play Relic Vault win |
15037s | game don't play Relic Vault don't win |
15039s | game |
15041s | yeah that's it that's that's the the |
15043s | pricey |
15044s | well there's you can just play a good |
15047s | old fell Demon Hunter and get there a |
15049s | lot of the time to be honest especially |
15050s | against Decks that don't uh |
15052s | have a lot of Health |
15055s | Decks that don't have a lot of Health |
15057s | like all the ones that forgot to put |
15060s | marathon in yeah all the ones |
15063s | in the face yeah that one no |
15067s | um or you just like go down the curve |
15070s | g-log on seven Json 8 boom they're dead |
15073s | never even any relics played |
15076s | just all my school teachers and |
15079s | Bell barrages and Furies and predations |
15082s | you know all the good stuff so |
15085s | I would blast myself in the face flame |
15089s | imp take 13. |
15090s | yeah imagine opening a a game by |
15093s | starting the game with 13 less Health |
15095s | than you should |
15097s | be a good card but now it hits you for |
15100s | 13. |
15101s | and it's still being played here we go |
15103s | with zoti's curse imp warlock |
15106s | um we've seen this in almost every |
15110s | single lineup now |
15112s | um just a mishmash apparently of two |
15115s | decks to squash together but working |
15117s | really well in in harmony |
15121s | is symbiotic pair of decks acting as one |
15130s | isn't it just like like liking on a tree |
15133s | bark |
15135s | like what lichen lichen |
15140s | Moss um |
15142s | pretty sure it's liking |
15145s | as in like and Throat the first time |
15147s | anybody the first time but because I got |
15150s | it right he was so surprised you made me |
15152s | get it wrong |
15153s | yeah is there a second acceptable |
15156s | pronunciation |
15157s | I mean I have second acceptable |
15159s | pronunciations of nearly every word TJ |
15165s | mathematics is |
15167s | yeah we have multiple mathematics over |
15170s | here |
15171s | yeah |
15172s | I'm gonna go study some mathematic |
15175s | it's just the one mathematic he knows |
15177s | yes just gonna study my math |
15180s | some good old addition and subtraction |
15182s | ah wait I fell into the Trap that's |
15184s | already mathematics yeah there you go |
15186s | there's two things what about proofs |
15191s | you ever just you know wake up in the |
15193s | morning you're like I'm gonna hop on my |
15194s | computer and go do some proofs |
15196s | well I didn't like you know I sort of |
15198s | proved that one and one equals two for a |
15201s | given value of x if the y-axis is equal |
15204s | to the vortex of the something else |
15209s | like geometric proofs |
15212s | idea can do proofs in metric Imperial |
15214s | she's she's really smart she can do them |
15216s | in any measurement units you like yeah |
15218s | you don't know the five parts of a of a |
15220s | geometric proof |
15222s | I don't know oddly enough |
15224s | enlighten me |
15226s | I don't know them |
15228s | uh there's a proposition somewhere in |
15231s | there |
15233s | I'm sorry I'm I'm already okay you have |
15235s | to you have to say what you know |
15237s | they what you're trying to prove |
15240s | like say the state the facts |
15243s | oh I see axioms |
15247s | and then for a geometric proof show it |
15251s | like uh |
15252s | like the actual sh |
15255s | Show the shapes |
15258s | they still know so I know there are |
15261s | shapes I'm trying to prove there are |
15264s | more shapes and now I'm going to show |
15265s | you the shapes |
15267s | that's three so the last thing the five |
15270s | parts of a geometric proof |
15273s | um |
15274s | one what do I know two what do I Wanna |
15278s | Know three |
15281s | what are the facts because that differs |
15282s | from what I know because what I know |
15284s | could be wrong so I have to State the |
15285s | facts four what are my thoughts in five |
15289s | shapes |
15293s | and does that mean it's going to be a |
15296s | three two or three and then through this |
15298s | process |
15300s | you you've proven |
15304s | that a a geometrical equation is true |
15307s | boom and that links nicely into this |
15310s | best of five conquests where we're going |
15312s | to prove that one of these two is the |
15314s | best player without any reasonable doubt |
15317s | I'll try the fact talk about Hearthstone |
15319s | a little bit all right well we could um |
15320s | we could talk about whatever whatever |
15322s | you like really absolutely shapes what |
15325s | sort of shapes |
15326s | um do you prove I like a hand that goes |
15328s | like this |
15331s | you're gonna put lower |
15333s | it's very Halloween or Amusement wait a |
15336s | second |
15338s | there's five fingers the the hand |
15342s | wait no let's see now from the left |
15345s | coming this way okay never mind because |
15347s | my camera is inverted I was like trying |
15350s | to do the Warlock symbol with my hand |
15352s | I can see the Warlock symbol and I was |
15355s | like the thumb is inverted |
15356s | like someone has the thumb on the |
15358s | outside |
15362s | so if you're looking at it as someone's |
15365s | coming at you right like a warlock's |
15366s | coming at you but can you get that angle |
15369s | on your fingers the thumb like that's |
15370s | like 150 degrees or something |
15373s | yeah you just put your fingers apart |
15375s | like this look |
15377s | the axis it's the same |
15383s | now do the Demon Hunter one |
15387s | your turn okay you have a war Glade |
15390s | lying around |
15391s | um no it's behind the green screen I |
15394s | can't reach it right now yeah probably |
15396s | being a green screen we're in a I mean |
15398s | silly I mean yeah if I go over the HD |
15400s | Amino fall down the stage yeah you can |
15402s | see behind us we're still waiting on the |
15403s | players situated in their chairs |
15406s | um |
15408s | nobody showed up today |
15411s | yeah even worse than yesterday he's |
15413s | picking through that window back there |
15416s | yeah he is taking a nap above the |
15418s | chandelier on the other side so you |
15419s | can't see her |
15421s | Derek's in the toilet |
15425s | okay and we're here on the balcony |
15428s | with our backs to the players put our |
15430s | face to the camera |
15432s | waiting for them to emerge on the |
15434s | obvious stage below |
15436s | actually |
15438s | they haven't even got computers down |
15439s | there where are they I think they're |
15440s | coming in Yep they're coming in right |
15442s | now I see them walking in |
15443s | [Music] |
15444s | oh yeah here they come |
15446s | here they are love storm |
15449s | well you want to avoid too yeah it looks |
15452s | like the gods have provided us with that |
15454s | that um that opportunity to to not talk |
15457s | about because there isn't any |
15459s | very good |
15462s | we're good |
15463s | I guess we can talk about Hearthstone a |
15465s | little bit zoji's in the initial match |
15467s | of his series actually um |
15470s | got reverse sweat |
15472s | yeah uh with the knock pre sauce three |
15475s | games with Naga priest so |
15477s | I feel like that's the deck to look at |
15479s | because you know normally on ladder |
15481s | when they start to go on a losing streak |
15483s | with you with the deck you're like I'm |
15484s | gonna switch decks |
15485s | and and tournament playing Conquest |
15488s | specifically |
15489s | you gotta win with all three decks so |
15492s | you don't have that option you gotta |
15493s | queue it up it's basically for 2-0 up |
15495s | right that's it you just you've got one |
15497s | deck left you have to cue it there you |
15499s | go you don't get a chance to switch |
15501s | around |
15502s | yeah but now he gets a chance to not |
15505s | start with it or maybe he'll want to |
15506s | start with and get it out of the way |
15507s | it's very um exciting times and maybe |
15510s | that's what's taking so long maybe he's |
15511s | having a good old think about whether to |
15513s | to kill the priest or not yeah a really |
15517s | good thing |
15520s | we got worried that they're uh in a test |
15522s | game currently |
15524s | um so that was three minutes ago which |
15526s | means that we should be jumping into the |
15528s | first game momentarily as you saw it's |
15529s | going to be the Relic Demon Hunter for |
15530s | lovestorm versus the uh imp curse |
15533s | Warlock |
15534s | uh for Sochi I feel like Chris walk has |
15537s | been performing a lot better today in |
15539s | this group than it did in the groups |
15541s | that we saw yesterday it was definitely |
15543s | the weak link and a lot of players line |
15545s | up but today and this could be a |
15547s | byproduct of the fact that the group |
15548s | itself has a lot of different decks |
15551s | right a lot more main yeah yeah slower |
15553s | decks more like Relic Demon Hunter Druid |
15556s | uh Thief Rogue |
15559s | Etc so |
15562s | um it's |
15564s | yesterday was extra of bad draws plus uh |
15567s | uh worst decks to go up against but it |
15569s | does seem like courtesy warlock for the |
15571s | players that did bring it today it's |
15572s | doing just fine yeah yesterday was |
15573s | incredibly I grew heavy but um |
15576s | even though he's stuck in it even though |
15579s | it's an incredibly um |
15582s | good debt it can struggle against the |
15584s | really aggressive stuff where they're |
15586s | just putting stuff on the board hit you |
15587s | a few things the curses don't matter |
15589s | and we saw that a lot yesterday but |
15591s | today is getting a chance to do its |
15593s | thing against all of these decks |
15596s | apart from now where apparently he's not |
15598s | getting a chance to do anything |
15599s | but maybe it will soon |
15601s | yeah only time will tell |
15607s | only time will tell and I mean it's uh |
15610s | on our side here because yeah we're at |
15612s | the start of the game soon I have a lot |
15614s | of subjects that I want to hurt but I |
15616s | know as soon as I start talking |
15618s | non-saharsal subjects |
15621s | um as soon as I started we're gonna go |
15622s | into the game and then I won't be able |
15624s | to talk about it |
15625s | that's very legal of you oh I have a lot |
15628s | of subjects you know |
15629s | [Music] |
15631s | we have a lot of subjects to discuss |
15636s | today in our lesson we've already |
15638s | discussed the five parts of a geometric |
15640s | proof |
15641s | [Music] |
15642s | and next I want to discuss |
15646s | uh the |
15648s | this is something I think I just did I |
15649s | discuss it with you |
15651s | about pants |
15653s | remind me we may have to sound familiar |
15656s | Derek actually |
15658s | yeah |
15659s | um about how pandas are very hard to uh |
15663s | classify in terms of their uh actual |
15667s | like uh species because they're so |
15669s | unique |
15671s | I did that wasn't me |
15673s | it wasn't you |
15675s | well it's a it's a scientific dilemma |
15678s | that's been going on for years and in |
15679s | the end they just figured you know what |
15681s | nobody really cares |
15683s | um because they're because they're |
15684s | pandas right like what is it what does |
15687s | it matter to anyone if pandas really |
15689s | belong to a different group |
15692s | perhaps a panda's mind has anyone asked |
15694s | the pandas what they think yeah and then |
15696s | they |
15698s | fell off a roll a wall and rolled down a |
15700s | hill there you go then that's it and |
15702s | grab and then grab some bamboo eat it |
15704s | and then took a nap |
15705s | that's the life of a panda they roll |
15707s | around they eat bamboo the bamboo seeds |
15710s | get stuck to their fur |
15712s | they roll down a hill the bamboo Seas |
15714s | get deposited in the hill that they |
15716s | rolled down which grows more bamboo |
15719s | there's more pandas oh okay which then |
15721s | yes grows more pandas because there's |
15723s | more bamboos there's a a more food |
15725s | supply |
15728s | literally anyway that's the discussion |
15730s | that we had I think it was with Derek or |
15732s | saddle Eric saying it was him oh it was |
15734s | Derek yeah and he says I love pandas |
15738s | is to eat bamboo be messy while they eat |
15743s | bamboo so that the bamboo seeds get |
15745s | caught in their fur and they fall down |
15747s | and roll down a hill and then the bamboo |
15749s | gets gets deposited in the earth when |
15753s | they roll |
15754s | because they're so heavy |
15755s | is that why bamboo only grows at the |
15758s | bottom of hills |
15759s | uh well it grows All Along The Hills |
15761s | because they roll down the whole hill |
15762s | all right we're in the game loves |
15765s | already happened |
15766s | he's done five damage |
15768s | a classic into an impended catastrophe |
15771s | another classic lovestorm though not |
15774s | terrible opening is going to get the |
15776s | Relic Vault into phantasms to be able to |
15777s | fight this board however zochi's gonna |
15780s | be able to draw a whole heap of cards |
15783s | here all Heap cards look at all those |
15786s | cards |
15787s | yeah he just gets to do the opening turn |
15788s | all over again did he get the clear he |
15791s | did yeah he already had it the grimoire |
15792s | he already had it turned three he's done |
15795s | 14 damage he's got a massive board and |
15798s | love storm |
15800s | well |
15802s | he's going to lose what is this |
15808s | just dead |
15810s | unless he finds a way to remove some of |
15812s | this stuff I guess he can remove one amp |
15814s | but you have a wicked shipment plus vile |
15816s | library next turn |
15818s | yeah okay there we go fell barrage cool |
15822s | damage removing DMS from the Phoenix |
15825s | Circle actually it's gonna go Relic ball |
15827s | and just take out one of these |
15829s | he realizes that if you just full |
15831s | barrage now you're not gonna really do |
15832s | much okay so how much damage we looking |
15834s | at |
15835s | uh Wicked shipment is going to uh bring |
15837s | the file librarian up to five attack |
15840s | there'll be four amps on board so we |
15841s | have seven plus four eleven damage yeah |
15845s | I know you can close it out with cursors |
15847s | over time there's no Hill in the oh |
15848s | there's there's the wall blades actually |
15850s | but |
15851s | yeah it takes a while to ramp up right |
15857s | he's looking to see there's a more safe |
15859s | way of doing it obviously because he's |
15861s | in such a great spot now he's looking |
15863s | whether the mischievous is just better |
15865s | because that's putting just a lot of |
15867s | stuff on the board but either way |
15870s | Extinction will clear his board that's |
15872s | what he's trying to work around at the |
15873s | moment so I think he might end up going |
15875s | with a vile |
15876s | Library anyway to make sure that one |
15878s | minion survives an Extinction weirdly |
15887s | yeah there we go love storms like why |
15888s | didn't you just do that |
15892s | just just do it we're gonna have to wait |
15894s | for 30 seconds for you to do this but we |
15896s | can see that the Dilemma was down before |
15899s | has to and that's the game the Vista |
15903s | yeah yeah |
15904s | see like it feels like M curse warlocks |
15907s | just firing in all cylinders today it's |
15910s | it's just |
15911s | good wow 10 000. or 10 million that's a |
15915s | big number |
15917s | what is that what was that a lot of |
15919s | shapes |
15920s | yeah that is the one |
15925s | TJ now is just busy working out how much |
15928s | that thing on the wall was worth |
15930s | and I'm going to talk about the next |
15931s | game which will be either the Demon |
15933s | Hunter or the priest |
15934s | taking on dollars |
15936s | seven thousand dollars |
15939s | just pinned to his wall |
15941s | he's got that much money he can just |
15943s | have seven thousand dollars just |
15944s | chilling on his shelf yeah just bring |
15946s | that to the bank |
15949s | you cash this giant check please |
15952s | for 10 million won this is so every day |
15955s | he goes in there he tries to get it |
15957s | under the counter and it's just too wide |
15958s | and he just can't get it in there so he |
15960s | can't cash it he has to go home again |
15962s | put it on his shelf he has to do it at |
15964s | the ATM just cuts it into a bunch of |
15965s | tiny pieces in the cash deposit just |
15968s | gives me three dollars each time he has |
15970s | to feed them in one at a time yeah those |
15972s | ticket machines that you get at arcade |
15974s | or you have to feed them in it tells you |
15975s | how many tickets you've got and then |
15976s | you've got like seven million tickets |
15978s | you can cash it in for a bean bag or |
15980s | something you just don't need |
15981s | a pink bag |
15985s | or like a kettle without a spouter or |
15988s | something you just get all this garbage |
15989s | that no one's ever done |
15990s | that's called a cooker |
15992s | yeah you get like a a candy bar that |
15995s | they also sell at the front for a dollar |
15997s | and it costs yeah thirty dollars to get |
16001s | enough tickets to buy the candy bar |
16002s | you've spent thirty dollars it's really |
16004s | played hard and some basketball throwing |
16007s | games all day just to earn this candy |
16009s | bar that you could have just bought for |
16011s | a dollar yeah |
16013s | meanwhile ping mage |
16016s | yep could be the key to the world |
16018s | championship entry and a lot more than |
16020s | seven thousand dollars for love storm |
16022s | if you can get it done with this deck |
16025s | yeah |
16026s | um this deck is |
16029s | uh the restaurant Viper is interesting |
16030s | but I guess it makes sense if you expect |
16033s | Rogue |
16034s | um |
16036s | at all uh you know easily traded away |
16040s | right for one Mana |
16042s | but this deck always felt sort of an |
16045s | interesting spot for me where |
16048s | it has the it wants to sort of be |
16051s | aggressive but it uses like defensive |
16055s | tools to be aggressive right yep uh like |
16059s | the cold case sort of in a a defensive |
16061s | car because the armor gain but you're |
16063s | using it to kind of just piece together |
16065s | some chip damage and beef up your Frozen |
16067s | touches a little bit similar to freeze |
16070s | Mage in a way uh in the sense that once |
16073s | you get later in the game you've lost |
16075s | control of the board most likely and |
16076s | you're just freezing and pinging and |
16079s | Frozen touching uh to try and piece |
16081s | together the last points of damage |
16083s | so it's all about |
16085s | finding ways to buy yourself one more |
16088s | turn like what's the most efficient way |
16089s | to buy myself one more turn and push a |
16091s | little bit of damage and that's sort of |
16093s | what freeze Mage uh uh did in the past I |
16097s | and I like how you know we still talk |
16100s | about freeze Mage as as if it's this you |
16102s | know deck that just has existed forever |
16105s | but it's been like a good three years |
16107s | since freeze Mage has actually been a |
16111s | deck yeah qhc is like nine years old or |
16114s | something now right yeah yeah |
16118s | um but it's we need to we need to find |
16121s | other comparisons for people that have |
16123s | only been following I mean I've had a |
16125s | Hearthstone are playing HearthStone for |
16126s | like the last two or three years it's |
16128s | like Luna's pocket Galaxy |
16131s | but instead of reducing the cost of all |
16133s | your cards |
16134s | it kills your opponent it's like |
16138s | um |
16139s | uh oh what's what was that card that |
16143s | transformed all the spells in your deck |
16144s | to three one second oh box of deck |
16148s | transformation I know yeah the box of |
16151s | deck trans with the pocket Galaxy yeah |
16155s | yeah |
16156s | um |
16157s | just call it yolks box of deck |
16159s | transformation everyone will know |
16161s | exactly yeah |
16163s | yogs box of deck transformation Mage |
16165s | yeah it's like that but instead of |
16167s | transforming your spells into other |
16169s | spells that are super efficient and |
16171s | really cheap you're killing your |
16172s | opponent |
16174s | ah yeah it's like um |
16178s | it's like big spell Mage except all the |
16181s | cards are different and do different |
16183s | things |
16184s | yeah it's like big spell Mage instead |
16187s | all of your spells are small and you |
16188s | have more of them |
16191s | because you have 40 instead of 30. |
16193s | yeah |
16195s | and you have more health |
16197s | and at Naga recently yeah it's like |
16199s | skeleton it's like |
16201s | um the old uh Renault uh skeleton Mage |
16204s | except you pyroblasting yourself in the |
16206s | face at the start of the game |
16212s | whereas with original threes Mage if |
16214s | you're going to lose your power yourself |
16216s | power yourself in the face at the end of |
16218s | the game just to say well played |
16220s | yeah concede |
16225s | and one zero this is the deck that he |
16227s | had trouble with in the previous matchup |
16229s | but by trouble I mean he lost with it |
16231s | three times that's not just trouble |
16232s | that's like catastrophe levels |
16236s | it's like if you had Mage and lost |
16238s | without three times except it's priest |
16247s | all right let's get into it oh love |
16249s | someone's gonna be able to Ping anything |
16251s | off that has um three health and well |
16254s | that's what those cards to say and do at |
16256s | the top there so luckily for associates |
16258s | playing a deck where everything gets |
16259s | much bigger than that very quickly |
16261s | otherwise that'd be a really boring game |
16266s | yeah this is actually a pretty good |
16268s | start of Love storm yeah as Frost with |
16271s | dungeon here at nightcloak Sanctum |
16273s | it just you know it's a double wildfire |
16276s | uh which is |
16277s | gonna allow him to get to this game |
16281s | relatively unseathed the biggest threat |
16284s | comes in the later stages when |
16287s | the inauga priests can a lot of things |
16289s | in a turn you know the radio Elemental |
16291s | handmade interns where you know they end |
16294s | the turn with a giant Boot and you have |
16295s | like this wide Board of medium stuff |
16298s | and you're trying to figure out a way to |
16300s | freeze it all |
16301s | there's a lot of tools in the deck |
16302s | though you got whatever you got Barden |
16303s | you got nightclub sanctum you have solid |
16305s | Alibi to just straight up buy yourself a |
16307s | turn |
16308s | but you will have to either acknowledge |
16310s | those minions sometime or find a way to |
16314s | put on pressure yourself and uh and look |
16317s | look for ways to end the game |
16319s | so |
16320s | um okay love storm |
16323s | faced with a dilemma here |
16327s | but you could also go shivering |
16330s | sorceress |
16331s | Wildfire coin ping and leave up the |
16335s | Slither Spear and hope that there's no |
16337s | minion on the other side because then |
16338s | you have like a |
16340s | not a straight up trade on the board but |
16341s | you're at least sticking a minion your |
16343s | sources Wildfire are not coin and chill |
16346s | is another option |
16348s | ah I don't want to float a Mana |
16351s | sure what's that coin doing other than |
16354s | killing a 2-3 yeah okay |
16357s | well the reason I was going with trying |
16360s | to find a way to not use the coin there |
16362s | and obviously floating Mana is is |
16364s | criminal offense |
16366s | um is that a lot of your harder play I |
16369s | think the harder plays come at the start |
16370s | of the game but a lot of the |
16371s | harder to fit in place even though |
16373s | they're slightly easy to make come at |
16375s | the end when you haven't quite got |
16376s | enough Mana to do stuff so that's why I |
16377s | was trying to protect that coin but yeah |
16379s | this this quite obviously makes perfect |
16381s | sense |
16387s | this is why you saw us actually take a |
16388s | while over picking a handmade in last |
16390s | term as well like no spells to activate |
16392s | it just got to work on the assumption |
16393s | that he will have eventually |
16402s | about a slithering death scale think |
16406s | that was tempting you know I kind of |
16408s | liked it yeah but Chris call enforcer is |
16410s | just overall better just cycle through |
16413s | your deck a little bit more but still |
16414s | need to spell right |
16418s | um but for the Slither scale you need |
16421s | three spells |
16425s | yeah you need to buy turn seven whereas |
16427s | with the Costco you need by now |
16433s | work that out huh where's your shape |
16435s | proofs now TJ |
16439s | where's my what shape proofs |
16444s | oh my geometric roofs yeah |
16447s | well you're referring to GMAT proof |
16450s | uh part five is Apes |
16454s | yes itself on a small part of it I'm |
16458s | sorry TJ I should um study harder for my |
16461s | next cast with you |
16463s | yeah and then you just come up with |
16465s | something else I have to learn like |
16466s | pandas or something |
16471s | jigsaws |
16475s | Patrick |
16479s | yeah he's thinking about him for the uh |
16482s | trade but that just walks right into |
16485s | Shadow or devour right |
16487s | um |
16489s | I might just get about here I think he |
16492s | just got a boon |
16494s | it up |
16496s | what's the other I mean the other |
16497s | options are all horrible aren't they |
16499s | yeah you can make like some value trades |
16502s | and heal and then water scribe and then |
16503s | try next to her but Boone activates the |
16506s | crush claw enforcer so you can draw |
16507s | further in your deck |
16509s | uh it beefs up the attack of these uh |
16511s | vicious Slither Spears so you can make |
16512s | some better trades on the board |
16515s | puts something in the way like the other |
16518s | line as well ends up using up your two |
16520s | drops so you get to five on our next |
16521s | turn with a bunch of fours and threes in |
16523s | your hand as well |
16525s | the alternatives are just absolutely |
16529s | I love stores wondering what's going on |
16531s | here I don't know my pet is going to pop |
16533s | off now your opponent's really |
16534s | struggling to do anything you find |
16535s | you're okay lovestone |
16539s | it's just |
16549s | huh |
16553s | he's trying really hard to just play |
16554s | around Apprentice here isn't he but if |
16556s | it's there he's just lost basically yeah |
16576s | Varden is a pretty big resource to |
16580s | expend here but it does kill off two |
16582s | minions and means love song is fully |
16584s | ahead on board this can also value trade |
16586s | over the uh the 2-1 and it leaves the |
16589s | two five Frozen which gives lovestorm |
16592s | way more options in the future turns and |
16595s | a lot of times Varden is is there |
16597s | because of |
16599s | you know when you have that boom turns |
16601s | to seeing one Boon already |
16603s | means that you're |
16605s | or okay with actually expending the |
16608s | Varden so love storms are going to say |
16610s | I'm gonna I'm gonna stay ahead on this |
16612s | board and there's nothing you can do |
16613s | about it yeah and also the fact that he |
16616s | saw the Boon just used in that weird |
16618s | fashion is an indicative that just just |
16620s | do your things now love storm don't |
16622s | don't pause your opponents on the ropes |
16624s | they've got nothing to do |
16626s | he doesn't know what's going on there's |
16627s | a lot of possibilities but he knows it's |
16629s | something |
16631s | um is wrong with zoji's hand I think |
16634s | that he can afford to get the immediate |
16636s | benefits from the Varden |
16639s | that's where he's at |
16644s | it's not good at all for so serious |
16649s | this is brutal |
16652s | supposed to do |
16658s | wow |
16661s | a lot of fun was very happy to see that |
16666s | and now he actually gets to just get on |
16669s | with his game plan |
16670s | yep |
16673s | and this ping is just going to be |
16674s | ridiculous right |
16677s | and I don't think he used the snow |
16679s | flurry here just because that's pretty |
16681s | big what do I know |
16685s | I mean he's thinking about the same |
16687s | thing I'm thinking about okay yeah |
16689s | here's the argument you have the implied |
16691s | snowflier on the board you're further |
16693s | ahead on the board right |
16695s | it lets you have another meeting to |
16696s | trade into for Frozen touch to be |
16698s | infused yada yada |
16700s | but let's say zochi just finds a clear |
16704s | with like blade Master Samurai and a |
16706s | blast |
16707s | uh-huh |
16708s | and then you all of a sudden you don't |
16711s | have Varden or an amplified snow flurry |
16713s | to buy you one more turn like |
16715s | that's that's my uh my thought process |
16719s | yeah I think that's fair |
16721s | I guess we also have to look that the |
16723s | lovestone doesn't have actually that |
16724s | much going on in his own hand we've |
16725s | concentrated on sochi's had quite a lot |
16727s | maybe he's just thinking I want to hit |
16729s | my opponent for 10 twice and just end |
16731s | this |
16735s | in case his hand whips a couple of times |
16737s | where things could get quite messy if he |
16739s | takes any time |
16740s | foreign |
16742s | just be looking to get it over with |
16751s | because of this ludicrous |
16754s | pumped up ping that he's got going on |
16757s | oh no |
16759s | that's fine well |
16762s | it's fine but it's still unfortunate |
16764s | right |
16765s | yeah |
16767s | it wasn't touching um |
16770s | multicaster which has a couple of spells |
16773s | Juiced up |
16775s | playing for minions here I like this |
16782s | okay finally |
16784s | so you can actually do something yeah |
16787s | find the truth hellagos |
16790s | devour |
16792s | Boone |
16797s | and there you go what the deck does |
16801s | yep |
16802s | that's both Boons gone |
16805s | but sochit has double handmade to back |
16808s | this up if one of these minions is left |
16809s | unfrozen with double handmade and |
16811s | Priestess Village in hand like there's |
16814s | lethal possibilities |
16816s | absolutely yeah I think only one of the |
16818s | handmaids is actively almost becomes |
16820s | active almost certainly off the first |
16821s | one so yeah |
16825s | and now love Storm's got to decide |
16829s | whether to just take a chance for a turn |
16832s | like you can't you can you can just Jam |
16834s | yeah and just go okay |
16837s | now we set up |
16846s | foreign |
16849s | [Music] |
16867s | [Music] |
16885s | how many minions does he want on board |
16887s | at any one time here is there a is a |
16889s | right number |
16891s | five seven okay |
16900s | a lot |
16901s | hmm like |
16905s | our decision to go for a second hand |
16907s | maiden or to |
16909s | uh start getting the wigs uh rolling |
16913s | here |
16915s | second-hand mate and maybe he feels that |
16917s | there isn't enough time |
16919s | but he's go for it late in the turn |
16925s | job done |
16927s | [Music] |
16937s | I mean that's sort of some flowy defense |
16940s | I guess but that's not the main issue |
16942s | it's gonna be Alibis and stuff all right |
16954s | hmm |
16955s | yeah I mean it is just looking pretty |
16957s | rough for lovestorm as is |
16960s | this is why I wasn't sure about the uh |
16963s | aggressive use of minions earlier on |
16966s | yeah |
16968s | I don't think the Varden was absolutely |
16969s | necessary I don't think the Amplified |
16971s | snow flurry was absolutely necessary I |
16973s | understood where his head was but |
16975s | you see what you said coming into action |
16979s | now which is |
16982s | yeah needs them now because he didn't |
16984s | get the job done with the board yeah can |
16987s | do some things here you go sorceress |
16990s | Cold Case throw out a frozen touch |
16995s | and then you've probably got a solid |
16998s | Alibi to be quite honest |
17004s | is he gonna be face |
17006s | yeah he's gonna get for one turn I think |
17013s | and say you kill me you kill me but if |
17014s | you don't then I freeze with oh then I |
17016s | Alibi and then I might be able to kill |
17018s | you over two turns that's his |
17020s | declaration here |
17022s | oh dude this is gotta be lethal right I |
17026s | mean yeah I'm not going to add it up |
17027s | because that involves counting all sorts |
17029s | of numbers but yes this looks like |
17031s | lethal to me this is nine this is going |
17034s | to go up to yep 20. so now we have 26 so |
17037s | we need eight more |
17039s | we have serpent wig |
17043s | handmade and serpent wig serpent Wing |
17045s | bless |
17046s | yep |
17051s | that's seven Mana |
17054s | yep |
17057s | wait so there's 28 right now right 22 |
17060s | plus six to Twenty Eight so he needs he |
17064s | handmade in he handmade in serpent wig |
17066s | that's 24. and you serpent wig again yep |
17072s | this also works |
17074s | right yeah because this is also plus two |
17076s | okay |
17078s | Cathedral is also |
17080s | that's a horrible thing when you cast |
17081s | you find a lethal and the player finds |
17083s | an equally valid other Leaf because |
17084s | they're all equally valid because you |
17086s | just win the game it's like oh what's |
17088s | she doing what's hear me Cathedral three |
17091s | Mana for two damage essentially |
17093s | so just had a different thought process |
17095s | of it but I mean lovestorm had such a |
17097s | promising start to that game |
17100s | um but just found himself in a pickle uh |
17103s | more meetings on board meant the pelagos |
17105s | was bigger |
17106s | uh had less freeze available because |
17109s | Hughes departed in the Amplified snow |
17110s | flurry |
17112s | um earlier on just to try and take board |
17114s | but I feel like that's just not what the |
17116s | early game is about |
17117s | um I feel like you're you don't have |
17120s | enough board presence to just keep the |
17122s | board the whole time against Dr |
17124s | Priestess dude there's a a blade Master |
17126s | sambro comes out or Shadow or Devourer |
17129s | or |
17130s | um like a just a pelagos plus a boot |
17133s | like you're you're not getting through |
17135s | it so I understood a thought process but |
17137s | I think that he could have had a better |
17139s | chance in that game if he had uh held |
17142s | been a little more like a |
17145s | yeah a little more efficient with his |
17148s | pings and a little less aggressive with |
17150s | his minions |
17152s | and now we're going to be down to just |
17154s | fell DH for Sochi |
17157s | um definitely not the most popular of |
17160s | demon Hunters but |
17162s | what we've seen so far for the large |
17164s | part looking like the slightly better of |
17165s | the two demon Hunters but I still stand |
17167s | by I think the Relic one has had some |
17169s | incredibly bad draws over the course of |
17171s | this tournament so I'm not convinced yet |
17175s | [Music] |
17177s | I'm not convinced either |
17180s | which one do you prefer do you think |
17181s | well you guys know what now what do we |
17183s | do if we're both not convinced |
17185s | well we can't even argue TJ |
17189s | you know what we have to do when we |
17190s | can't argue we have to talk nonsense |
17192s | that's what we normally do |
17194s | yeah we have talked every single piece |
17196s | of nonsense possible we even know the |
17197s | population of Paris so |
17199s | [Music] |
17208s | still that boat is always the go-to |
17211s | yeah |
17212s | there's a fishing boats dinghy boats |
17215s | deck boats |
17218s | and then there's this failed the age |
17220s | catamarans destroyer of Love store |
17223s | houseboats |
17226s | house was a houseboat |
17229s | it's a house that's a boat is that like |
17232s | what I would call a canal barge |
17237s | okay is it is it a house that's a boat |
17240s | like is it a house that floats or is it |
17241s | a boat that's a house |
17243s | uh there's both there's yachts |
17247s | like someone builds a house and then |
17249s | just puts a sail on it and Chucks it in |
17250s | the sea does not sound like it's gonna |
17252s | work there's pontoons there's utility |
17254s | boats |
17256s | people this is such a generic term you |
17259s | gotta have utility but you have utility |
17260s | anything there's a fertility panda |
17264s | Lifeboat |
17267s | you're not gonna stop are you there's a |
17268s | tug tugboats |
17272s | inflatable boats |
17276s | yeah cruise ships |
17279s | military vessels |
17281s | I think those are done those aren't |
17284s | sorry those aren't classified as boats |
17286s | caused by the ships |
17292s | [Music] |
17294s | ship is larger brother |
17297s | boat versus |
17299s | I'm sure over the last two years I'm |
17301s | sure we've Googled boat versus ship like |
17304s | seven times it's still can't remember |
17305s | our large ocean fairing watercraft |
17309s | that use multiple sales or engines |
17313s | the word boat is often used to refer to |
17317s | a water going that are oh wow okay so |
17320s | you it can be a boat or a ship |
17324s | okay okay |
17330s | can't refer to some boats as ships but |
17333s | you can refer to All Ships as boats |
17336s | everything is about but no everything |
17339s | could be a boat but not everything can |
17340s | be a ship |
17342s | huh you gotta be Scrappy so whenever we |
17345s | say boat we're just never wrong that's |
17347s | that's the default if you're if you're |
17349s | in doubt call it a boat |
17351s | got it |
17352s | all right so zochi is in a boat of a |
17355s | position here |
17357s | um looks like he's against a druid which |
17359s | we knew and with a fell DH which is what |
17361s | I was going to talk about and in fact if |
17363s | we did try to talk about while you were |
17364s | telling me about all the sorts of boats |
17366s | that I already knew about |
17368s | um |
17369s | it could be in a good spot really hits |
17371s | the Druid but you earlier rattled off |
17373s | all the ways where the Druid could still |
17375s | get this done with an alignment yeah |
17378s | this Demon Hunter is one of the more |
17380s | aggressive decks in the metagame though |
17383s | um |
17384s | but they tend to run out of steam |
17386s | sometimes |
17388s | especially if they don't have like a |
17390s | bibliomite you know |
17392s | being better |
17393s | yep |
17395s | a steamboat |
17398s | you're doing it now without even knowing |
17400s | it you know it's like uh just run out of |
17402s | steam boat |
17405s | um double chaos strike here just to get |
17407s | the damage in this turns just so much |
17409s | damage and refilling that hand this Jace |
17412s | pickup also looks fantastic now it's |
17414s | just a handful of fell stuff |
17418s | yeah really needs like another Slither |
17421s | spear to get these predations active |
17423s | yeah to be honest I wouldn't even mind |
17426s | like just dispose of evidence into uh |
17430s | get rid of a predation that's so much |
17432s | damage |
17437s | but love storm has |
17441s | I mean what did I say |
17443s | what did I say Neil |
17445s | um I only heard some of it Celestial |
17446s | alignment in RAM for you you run into |
17448s | crystals you hear a power next turn |
17451s | Celestial alignment uh-huh |
17461s | this is actually the exact scenario that |
17464s | I said |
17465s | there's literally ramp into Celestial |
17468s | alignment into anacondra into double |
17470s | nourish insatiable devour |
17473s | exact scenario it was like you've got a |
17476s | time machine TJ |
17481s | yeah a time machine it's not on uh love |
17483s | storm ceiling it's not a love storm |
17485s | that's actually a portal |
17488s | wow |
17489s | these counting damage is so much it's |
17493s | actually getting close to lethal with a |
17495s | 2-2 on the board it's ridiculous |
17501s | actually a more realistic scenario love |
17505s | Storm's gonna alignment and then die |
17509s | no no no no no no no no |
17511s | not yet |
17516s | we're picking anything that gains life |
17518s | yep dinathrius got 19 damage in hand if |
17522s | I can count which I can't |
17530s | if he gets a Naga |
17534s | yeah |
17536s | The Fury Fury dispose is nine |
17540s | plus a fell barrage is 13. |
17543s | there's four on board so that's 17. |
17546s | and then you only have two Mana left |
17550s | it needs a Naga yeah that's not it it's |
17553s | not lethal |
17555s | not yet |
17557s | any other fell spells that can be drawn |
17559s | nope because both Furies have been drawn |
17561s | both both Fel brushes both chaos strikes |
17565s | both predations in hand are there even |
17567s | any fell spells left in the deck |
17571s | um that's a very very good question |
17574s | because there aren't many fellow spells |
17575s | in the deck are they really ah bro |
17577s | there's a there's a good amount |
17580s | uh yeah not compared to old school is as |
17583s | well there's |
17584s | um multi-strike right it's multi-strike |
17589s | it is oh no is it no it's not I don't |
17591s | know I actually don't know it doesn't |
17592s | matter it wouldn't have so much Mana to |
17594s | play that and get everything done so |
17596s | it's going to be slightly off lethal |
17598s | here |
17599s | and lovestorm has the juice |
17603s | just needs to get far enough into the |
17605s | deck I'm pretty it was tired and |
17607s | atherose which was picked last time |
17608s | because it didn't get drawn it's the |
17611s | only card that cost more than that |
17614s | so this is the turn I I said this this |
17617s | is the exact thing that I said it is |
17620s | multi-strike |
17623s | there we go exactly say this let's see |
17625s | if it pops off enough though it should |
17627s | well it could sorry |
17629s | it will |
17633s | how much armor will he gain |
17636s | roughly speaking |
17640s | looking for Earth and scales |
17644s | Earth skills |
17650s | oh it's just going to be the Indiana |
17651s | Jones Sportsman scene isn't it |
17654s | you can play a million cards look all |
17655s | great and he's just gonna get shot in |
17657s | the face |
17660s | okay you play uh |
17663s | you probably do raid bottinexia just for |
17666s | more like counter lethal pressure |
17669s | trading two welps and then in the |
17670s | tournament Saturdays |
17672s | it'll heal for seven |
17676s | times |
17680s | yeah |
17682s | [Applause] |
17684s | there's Curtis what is it on five he's |
17687s | on five |
17690s | all right |
17692s | and then one more taunt in the way just |
17694s | to be safe |
17697s | is exactly what TJ said if you're |
17699s | listening at the start of the show IM |
17701s | wedged in between talk about pandas and |
17703s | about proofs there was an entire |
17706s | discussion of exactly this term I told |
17709s | you |
17711s | see normal Druid without Celestial |
17713s | alignment would not be able to do |
17714s | something like this they would fall too |
17716s | far behind |
17717s | they don't they don't have like a |
17720s | a switch they can flip which says |
17723s | you have one turn right they don't have |
17726s | that |
17727s | um so |
17729s | that's why I in specifically matchups |
17732s | like this I'd like I don't like want to |
17735s | do it more because lion mature has less |
17737s | tools throughout the the early game to |
17739s | actually come back yeah exactly |
17741s | but you still have like you still have |
17744s | Planet evidence |
17745s | you still have |
17747s | like the same amount of early game ramp |
17749s | and minions you're still the goal is |
17752s | still the same you just have this |
17755s | this button that's like okay now you're |
17757s | on a timer right |
17760s | um |
17760s | and to be fair it's like she did have a |
17763s | chance of just winning two turns in a |
17765s | row there if picked up any |
17767s | Naga or whatever but yeah which is it |
17770s | would have just been lady Steno or the |
17772s | second uh vicious leather spear we're |
17774s | the only two in the deck I mean ladies |
17776s | then I would have been lethal in a |
17777s | million different ways |
17778s | yeah and also obviously absolute nuts |
17782s | just because we're talking about the |
17783s | incredible excuse me um the incredible |
17784s | number of fail spells he drew it doesn't |
17786s | mean that it was the nuts that was just |
17787s | a different way of getting a lot of |
17789s | damage accumulated obviously having a |
17791s | curbing board damage would have been |
17793s | preferable but now he's down to his last |
17795s | two goes he gets a bit tougher now |
17797s | because with the Druid out of the way |
17799s | yeah now he's gonna have to fight for |
17801s | his his rights to get to the decider |
17803s | match later today yeah Relic Demon |
17805s | Hunter is I feel like should |
17808s | theoretically be a good matchup they |
17809s | have 30 Health they don't really have |
17810s | ways to gain life outside of like school |
17812s | teacher venomous scorpid discovers |
17815s | um and kercher's armor which is usually |
17818s | irrelevant |
17819s | and you can just put you can ignore a |
17821s | lot of what they do |
17822s | um yeah bibliomite is only answered by a |
17825s | fell barrage or a beefed up relic of |
17827s | Extinction right whether it's Relic |
17829s | Vault or just the actual relic of |
17831s | Extinction |
17834s | um so |
17836s | I I feel like you could run over that |
17838s | deck sometimes Mage is a little bit |
17841s | tougher |
17841s | a lot of times especially in the later |
17843s | part of the game you're dealing your |
17844s | damage in bursts and so like solid Alibi |
17847s | just completely ruins your game plan it |
17849s | only costs two Mana |
17850s | so you can fit in some other stuff along |
17852s | the way you also have ways to just kind |
17854s | of stop your pressure early on in like |
17856s | just freeze out minions so we'll see |
17859s | we'll see we'll see we'll see |
17861s | we will indeed presumably anyway that's |
17864s | what we're hoping to do we're hoping to |
17866s | see I hope we get to see that'd be a |
17868s | bummer they're just like we're not going |
17869s | to show the rest of the matches in this |
17871s | series if you guys have seen enough yeah |
17873s | you can draw your own conclusions |
17876s | and we will do make a proof |
17879s | make a proof of who won |
17881s | oh |
17882s | [Music] |
17885s | there we go just in time just we both |
17888s | reached the point of I'm going to ask TJ |
17890s | to say something when you ask TJ to say |
17892s | something he can't say anything because |
17894s | it it blocks everything the brain just |
17896s | goes say something that's all you can |
17898s | think about so you don't say anything |
17899s | but luckily we're into the game so TJ |
17902s | say something about these opening hands |
17903s | that'd be great |
17907s | all right they're both |
17909s | malls well I don't know Reckless |
17916s | definitely not Findlay |
17918s | it's Finley's like |
17921s | he's just they're putting you know the |
17923s | effect of Finley would be mulliganing |
17925s | this hand |
17927s | click there's the effect one Finley oh |
17930s | dough |
17932s | now I just spent a card to do the thing |
17934s | that I can do the beginning of every |
17936s | game |
17938s | except you wouldn't have a 1-3 on the |
17940s | board |
17941s | oh true very true yeah so actually you |
17945s | get a 1-3 and your opponent power blasts |
17947s | themselves in the face so you're 11 |
17948s | ahead of where you would be |
17953s | do it |
17956s | you decide to use the snow flowy though |
17958s | for some early defense |
17963s | which makes sense |
17966s | my little brain at least |
17970s | Neil don't say that your brain is huge |
17973s | that's why it takes so long for the |
17975s | thoughts to travel from one side to the |
17977s | other |
17978s | yeah the neurons can't travel fast |
17980s | enough across your massive melon |
17984s | it starts off as a discussion about |
17986s | pandas and by the time it reaches the |
17988s | other side it's a boat and that's just |
17990s | how it is yeah each scar thank you so |
17993s | much |
17996s | ladies Teno earned a lot of stuff is |
17998s | going to be |
18000s | oh doubles then oh |
18003s | that's not how it works |
18006s | I've done a few days |
18009s | the exact same brain mistake see |
18016s | two standards yeah |
18021s | yards in his deck yeah |
18024s | wow imagine doing that twice in two days |
18028s | easy peasy multi-strike hero power coin |
18030s | metamorphin set up for the magnifying |
18032s | glaive next turn |
18034s | pushing dimage |
18036s | yeah it's not a lot though is it |
18040s | I mean you're pushing five damage this |
18042s | turn |
18043s | and you're developing a three four |
18045s | and then next turn you have a magnifying |
18047s | glaze which is actually a pretty big |
18049s | weapon |
18054s | don't worry about coding into coach was |
18055s | decided to get it all down now makes |
18057s | sense I guess |
18058s | yeah in fact I want to get rid of this |
18060s | curtress I want another disposal |
18062s | evidence I want a god |
18064s | dress does not deal damage to your |
18066s | opponent to turn that displayed two |
18068s | courtresses |
18074s | the Ross Rob Viper |
18077s | yeah this has been a failed piece of |
18079s | tech up until now but might do something |
18082s | here |
18083s | yeah but that was there for those pesky |
18085s | Rogues pardon |
18090s | I think so it doesn't want to though |
18092s | he's already had that accident |
18094s | do you even have |
18097s | even suspect man find good so I there's |
18101s | two things that you could expect here |
18102s | right because there was like dispose of |
18104s | evidence played uh so she dumped his |
18107s | hand so you're gonna expect the |
18110s | the four Mana card the magistrate Silas |
18112s | magistrate |
18114s | um and you're gonna expect |
18116s | um or magnifying glaive right so |
18119s | otherwise you usually hold on to dispose |
18121s | of evidence until maybe like the turn |
18123s | that you pick one of those up so we |
18124s | should have a good idea of that there is |
18126s | uh |
18128s | some type of hand refill in there which |
18130s | gives him the incentive to spend cards |
18132s | right because if it's Silas magistrate |
18134s | he just gets a card from it uh so I like |
18137s | playing something and you can't just |
18138s | hold or like trade for us about Viper |
18140s | and look for something |
18143s | yeah do it this way so he's at least |
18146s | facing |
18149s | it should at least survive a turn if |
18151s | it's not a glaive and if it is a glare |
18152s | you can clear it with Viper yep my blood |
18156s | boils for war |
18159s | job's done but the damage I mean |
18162s | obviously the Viper is going to do |
18163s | something here where the damage is kind |
18164s | of done isn't it with the refill already |
18169s | we do a lot more damage if he gets the |
18171s | fury Slither spear other card draw two |
18173s | cards again next turn so obviously it's |
18174s | huge but yeah |
18179s | dump the floor again you want to just |
18181s | spend cards right just fight for board |
18184s | as aggressively as possible because |
18185s | outside man to find glade the only other |
18186s | card that refills their hand |
18188s | is uh tell this magistrate which also |
18191s | refills your hand and this one kind of a |
18194s | little bit kind of yeah but you're |
18196s | you're not so much worried about this |
18198s | one yeah uh |
18202s | no one's scared of little fossils what |
18203s | they're gonna do |
18207s | I'm gonna try and hit fell barrage to be |
18210s | able to keep this board clear that's why |
18211s | he didn't spin any Mana there it is |
18213s | nicely done |
18221s | oh The Reckless Apprentice It's So Good |
18226s | pretty good two purchases oh |
18231s | three lady sinners |
18237s | ah oh lady said it was actually a really |
18240s | big pickup you threw it away getting it |
18242s | back means that with kirchers up you get |
18244s | every spell that you play you can get |
18246s | another reset it's just efficient hoping |
18248s | for flurry here I actually could just |
18251s | flurry the other one stay where you are |
18254s | here we go and that's the end |
18257s | a lot of damage each turn from Steno |
18259s | here |
18262s | but if you'll save it |
18264s | and try and do a huge chunk noise picked |
18266s | up the dread prison |
18276s | but this is a good spot for love Storm |
18278s | still quite healthy |
18280s | damage it's gonna puff up to oh my |
18284s | goodness |
18286s | just the juice off the top damage is |
18290s | this five damaged ping he's got a frozen |
18293s | touching hand I don't think it's infused |
18295s | I think there still needs to be one more |
18296s | minion for it to be fused Maybe I'm |
18297s | Wrong I was |
18299s | uh get the animation wrong but oh yeah |
18303s | get the five onto the hey Ken |
18308s | well then he doesn't play the Steno so |
18310s | the thing gets either too big or too |
18311s | small the Steno |
18315s | hero power it's it's it's more damage to |
18319s | just multi-strike right yeah I think it |
18321s | is |
18328s | multi-strike without the Steno is five |
18330s | it's just five extra damage so you just |
18333s | do that then you play the Steno |
18336s | oh no this is every step of attack is |
18338s | four that's the problem |
18341s | no |
18342s | because it's too from the Steno and two |
18344s | from this is |
18345s | power hero power here oh no you can't |
18348s | and now you take the exact this is |
18350s | actually the exact same amount of damage |
18351s | yeah this is the correct way as well now |
18354s | it's the exact same it makes sense your |
18356s | way doesn't make sense this makes sense |
18357s | even if it's the same |
18359s | there is no measure too much exact same |
18362s | amount again yep |
18365s | all right |
18368s | still 11 away I don't know if Jace would |
18371s | get there either |
18378s | wow it's every turn It's gotta be juice |
18381s | off the top nope |
18383s | and even Jace off the top maybe not |
18386s | and uh we're going to game five |
18389s | we are indeed going to game five oh my |
18392s | gosh that's a love storm game if you've |
18394s | ever seen one just fight so hard for |
18397s | borderly on and then literally plays off |
18399s | the top for three turns |
18400s | just apprentice apprentice moderation |
18403s | LOL yeah what's hard about this game |
18406s | yeah uh the vard in turn I think was a |
18409s | big one right opting to kill the 3-4 off |
18412s | and freeze the other minions stopping a |
18414s | lot of damage and getting an annoying |
18416s | minion out of the way to open up |
18418s | room for other place in the future I do |
18420s | like how zochi played that one very |
18422s | efficient with the damage for efficient |
18424s | efficient with the draw |
18426s | um |
18427s | understanding us out like specifically |
18429s | with the rust drop by per turn just |
18431s | attacking with the hero power instead of |
18432s | going all in with damage and all in with |
18434s | cards just to hit the uh fell brush out |
18437s | in order to keep the board clean from |
18439s | sochi's side but love swimmers had the |
18441s | answers and now it's going to come down |
18442s | to this aggressive Demon Hunter for |
18444s | zochi versus The Relic Demon Hunter |
18447s | from lovestorm |
18450s | oh Relic Demon Hunter can do a lot of |
18452s | powerful things but usually those |
18453s | powerful things happen a little bit |
18455s | later in the game yeah |
18457s | and uh that's what dochi wants so she |
18460s | wants some time to maneuver in the early |
18463s | game to just put that damage on and |
18465s | probably Demon Hunter only has 30 Health |
18467s | they don't have that many reliable ways |
18468s | to gain life it's a one of aldraki |
18471s | warblades it's discovers from school |
18474s | teacher like IBM or chaos League from |
18476s | school teacher or venomous scorpid |
18478s | [Music] |
18480s | um so you're susceptible |
18483s | and if there's the bibliomite that's |
18485s | just plopped down and you don't have the |
18486s | removal for it |
18488s | it's dealing 15 points of damage that's |
18490s | the important part here and also |
18493s | you don't have a surprise comeback |
18494s | mechanism usually as the The Relic |
18498s | version either your opponent can kind of |
18500s | see it coming to some extent because I'm |
18502s | gonna make a board of six sixes isn't |
18504s | I'm going to kill you this turn it's I'm |
18506s | going to make a really scary board and |
18507s | kill your next turn but you've got to |
18509s | turn to calculate how to beat that every |
18511s | time |
18516s | ah just keep all of this and metamorph |
18519s | in here |
18520s | way to Victory |
18522s | just did |
18525s | you |
18526s | can argue |
18529s | for literally every card to be kept in |
18532s | in the Mulligan for Demon Hunter except |
18535s | for like kirchers and Jace like you have |
18538s | like an argument for literally every |
18540s | card each scar |
18542s | vanquished and then he's probably gonna |
18544s | get rid of the chaos strike here |
18547s | two chaos strikes |
18550s | right now |
18554s | I understand how that card works now |
18561s | ah |
18567s | already really awkward for love storm |
18569s | obviously fell barrage not really what |
18571s | you want here |
18575s | but everything else does nothing |
18581s | yeah it does have ladies denim plus |
18583s | predation next turn |
18586s | so |
18589s | fine |
18590s | it doesn't feel about us now he's gonna |
18592s | be facing so much stuff next turn with |
18594s | the the fury and the metamorphic |
18598s | you did that because yeah the predation |
18600s | Center would be amazing but there's been |
18601s | so much out there if you like um Let Him |
18603s | Live |
18608s | strike now I've got Plane off the top of |
18611s | your deck TJ oh my this game's gonna be |
18614s | weird for Sochi |
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18620s | but the Steno hat needs to be killed off |
18625s | so she has a way to do it oh but it's |
18627s | gonna have to get rid of the Jace |
18630s | I mean that's fine because there's still |
18631s | a million turns away but this just means |
18633s | that there's just nothing in hand |
18635s | yeah but love storm has to play the |
18638s | miltranics it just does nothing |
18642s | to the point where he might not |
18643s | especially now he's picked up the |
18644s | location but okay oh you gotta you gotta |
18646s | have something on the board you gotta |
18648s | have okay |
18650s | I might have taken a charge with kale |
18652s | straight Relic Vault and draw two cards |
18654s | next yeah with the kill strike and next |
18655s | turn's draw and I hope I hit a relic I |
18658s | think |
18661s | I guess he can still do that and try and |
18663s | hit exactly Extinction but all right |
18669s | so actually looking at being reverse |
18670s | swept twice in one day that would be the |
18672s | the absolute worst sort of Champs |
18675s | at least plastic didn't have to go |
18677s | through torture to lose twice |
18686s | school teacher could be huge |
18689s | it's not |
18691s | huge enough |
18694s | I was looking for just anything that |
18697s | kept this board clean |
18700s | okay yeah sure |
18702s | yeah you gotta just put stuff in the way |
18704s | sure dread Pleasant prison glave up a |
18707s | multi-strike would be massive each |
18710s | battle sworn Vanguard not the greatest I |
18713s | mean I feel like all this is just going |
18715s | face yeah |
18716s | there's no reason to do literally |
18718s | anything else |
18723s | uh I guess this is sacrificing one |
18726s | damage to kill off something on the |
18728s | board |
18729s | I don't know like |
18732s | he's got to do 11 well he's gonna do |
18734s | nine if you count the hero power the |
18735s | face yeah Nine's a lot from here |
18739s | compared to eight I think so many good |
18742s | draws |
18744s | like magnifying clay magistrate at this |
18747s | point even kurturous |
18751s | the whole deck is just damaged like |
18752s | multi-strike with all these Minions on |
18754s | board |
18756s | oh yeah shipping it yeah |
18761s | yeah because although what you're saying |
18762s | is true the worlds where he only has two |
18764s | turns to get it done we might not be in |
18767s | those worlds but he doesn't know that |
18777s | it does have a full clear available |
18781s | cool teacher over the three two |
18788s | yeah quite nice little clear as well as |
18791s | it happens leaving yourself some damage |
18792s | up |
18796s | this relic of Dimensions is going to be |
18798s | ball plus Dimensions it's going to be |
18801s | reduced by three reduced by four |
18805s | well I just only clears |
18811s | yeah one damage to face if you want to |
18813s | take two |
18816s | it's the same amount of damage to face |
18818s | if you just fell barrage now and the |
18820s | hero power right yeah yeah |
18824s | they don't take the damage |
18827s | but he may want to just sell barrage and |
18829s | then take six zero power and push two |
18834s | this is not the same amount of damage oh |
18836s | no it's one extra damage yeah yeah so |
18840s | just literally maximizing damage at |
18842s | every possible turn |
18844s | all right here we go Vault Dimensions |
18846s | looking for any way to gain life kurtius |
18848s | would be playable |
18850s | uh if it's hit from the second |
18853s | or a jockey War blades looking for war |
18855s | blades oh he can set up lethal as well |
18858s | TJ it's gonna come down to this top deck |
18859s | because he's going to Brand into a |
18861s | school teacher school teacher anybody |
18868s | no healing |
18870s | no no anything |
18874s | oh |
18877s | take me pick me |
18879s | oh my gosh this is so much this is a lot |
18882s | what was that predation and then |
18884s | multi-strike yeah with bran take me |
18888s | that's an extra four |
18890s | is it it's not enough |
18893s | time |
18897s | so zochi needs three damage |
18901s | so we're looking at multi multi-strike |
18903s | yep |
18905s | uh we're looking at |
18908s | uh |
18911s | predation and that's it |
18915s | we're magistrate into either one of |
18917s | those yeah things into things as well |
18919s | yeah yeah he can't look everybody oh |
18922s | it's bibliomite no no disaster |
18925s | bibliomite |
18928s | oh you're so good but right now you're |
18931s | so bad |
18934s | lovestones |
18936s | somehow progresses |
18939s | the next game is not even into Sunday |
18941s | yet oh |
18943s | what a series it's actually two |
18945s | Heartbreakers in a row with the priest |
18948s | this last time with the Demon Hunter |
18950s | this time |
18953s | ah |
18955s | that's brutal that is brutal there was |
18959s | like four outs in that situation for |
18962s | lethal |
18964s | um or like magistrate into those outs |
18967s | uh that's |
18969s | that's tough |
18971s | uh kurtius also would have been okay |
18974s | because |
18976s | um |
18977s | you could clean up enough stuff on the |
18979s | board and get enough life to maybe live |
18980s | an extra turn |
18982s | but that is just |
18984s | being let down by the deck right at the |
18987s | end and lovestorm also just the the |
18989s | dramatic Relic into Dimensions trying to |
18992s | find just a tiny bit of healing |
18994s | so much damage coming out from the Brand |
18996s | Plus the noglings |
18998s | but there you have it ayojiru moved on |
19001s | against the the match with bunny Hoppers |
19002s | so now we're gonna have a rematch of our |
19004s | first match of the day which is going to |
19006s | be bunny Hopper versus love storm winner |
19008s | moves on |
19009s | be the second player to come out of the |
19011s | group and that means they're in the |
19012s | quarterfinals in one match away from the |
19014s | world championship |
19016s | losers out |
19017s | try again next year |
19019s | try again next year bunny Hopper tries |
19023s | every year with sometimes good results |
19026s | as well I mean yeah |
19028s | one of the players probably the player |
19030s | remaining now who is sort of the player |
19032s | to watch blah blah blah all the things |
19034s | that casters say with Fury Hunter and |
19036s | pocket train both going out yesterday |
19039s | but that first series of the day was |
19042s | super close I don't expect the rematch |
19044s | to be any different TJ so I'm looking |
19047s | forward to getting into that one but |
19049s | that was I'm still recovering I've cast |
19051s | both of those Heartbreakers today and oh |
19056s | oh close so close yet so so far |
19060s | I've been talking a bibliomite for |
19063s | basically the entire weekend now because |
19065s | we saw so much aggro Demon Hunter well I |
19068s | say so much but we saw about five |
19070s | minutes of aggro Demon Hunter from Abu |
19072s | kapu it turns out deeply I might not |
19077s | yeah that's |
19079s | a bummer but zochi put up a good show I |
19082s | feel like had some uh a solid read on |
19085s | the metagame just maybe the wrong group |
19087s | right yeah just ever so close in |
19090s | multiple occasions with that Demon |
19092s | Hunter from coming across you know a |
19094s | single draw to be able to get the job |
19096s | done in two games in that series but we |
19099s | have one more match left here for Group |
19101s | C for our third group out of four |
19104s | uh in this group stage it is going to be |
19106s | bunny Hopper versus lovestorm uh winner |
19108s | moves on to that quarterfile so that's |
19109s | going to be coming up next but before we |
19110s | jump into that match we are going to |
19111s | have to go uh to a little bit of a break |
19113s | but don't go anywhere plenty more to |
19115s | come here from the master tour fall |
19117s | Championship right after this |
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19734s | welcome back everyone to the fall |
19736s | Championship I'm Raven and joining me is |
19737s | Derek and we've got the last elimination |
19740s | match here for Group C it's going to be |
19743s | bunny Hopper and lovestar we're going |
19745s | all the way back to the start Derek as |
19747s | this is a rematch from the first one of |
19749s | the day bunny Hopper did end up |
19752s | Victorious there with a 3-1 victory over |
19754s | love storm do you think it's going to go |
19756s | the same again Derek I think you should |
19759s | be feeling pretty confident uh coming |
19761s | back into this once again I don't think |
19762s | that was a fluke Victory we saw from him |
19764s | against love storm the first time around |
19766s | uh I don't know if he himself is feeling |
19769s | all too confident about it I was just |
19770s | asking him how he's doing and I just got |
19772s | three letters in response of meh which |
19776s | uh I think about says it all and I I |
19778s | guess uh shows how uh this is really |
19780s | just another day at the office with |
19781s | bunny Hopper like we know how much he |
19784s | wants to make it through to Worlds and |
19785s | take that world championship Crown which |
19788s | we know he can do but at the same time |
19790s | you know he's been doing this for a long |
19792s | time he this is not his first rodeo yeah |
19794s | and uh he's won bigger tournaments than |
19796s | this before as well and I think as well |
19798s | the mermaid had been alluding to his |
19800s | loss to algeru which was just a pretty |
19803s | sweet 3-0 that you know the few things |
19806s | definitely did not go his way but he's |
19808s | gonna you know he's like you said he's |
19810s | been doing this long enough and doing |
19811s | this well enough that he'll be able to |
19813s | shrug it off fresh match fresh game |
19815s | let's go there we are going to kick it |
19817s | off though with Mage mirror and it was |
19820s | one where they're in the Algeria matchup |
19821s | also happened and he actually looked |
19824s | like he was really far ahead and then |
19826s | the game kind of just stalled out for |
19828s | him and his opponent just managed to get |
19829s | those pings through uh with a early-ish |
19832s | or on curve should I say Don grasp and |
19834s | it snowballed from there so got to be a |
19836s | little bit fearful of that happening yet |
19837s | again because I do feel like it's a it's |
19840s | a little bit scary in this matchup |
19842s | although I think the big spell Mage is |
19844s | fine it's just if you don't get the |
19846s | Belinda or the Sorceress early it can |
19849s | give the Ping Mage time if they get that |
19851s | Dawn grasp if they get that pressure |
19852s | live to actually just say okay well |
19854s | you've made the board dragons I'll |
19856s | freeze it and then I just push another |
19858s | eight damage this turn and suddenly |
19860s | you're within lethal range oh that's |
19862s | exactly right uh this match-up light I I |
19866s | kind of at first was treating it a |
19868s | little bit too much like a mirror |
19870s | because there are a lot of the same |
19871s | components there obviously that you're |
19873s | looking to do with the Ping aspect of |
19875s | the deck getting Dawn grasped down |
19876s | Apprentice more dress as well for a lot |
19879s | of burst damage but honestly is the Ping |
19881s | Mage versus the big spell Mage you're |
19883s | kind of closer in your play cell too if |
19886s | you're playing against uh Naga priest |
19889s | then playing against the mirror because |
19890s | it's very often just a few big Minions |
19892s | that you need to be worried about which |
19894s | is what the Ping Mage does very well |
19896s | with they just freeze them turn after |
19897s | turn after turn and then as you |
19899s | correctly put if you can get down a dawn |
19900s | grasp first and upgrade those hero |
19902s | Powers the Nerf to The Honorable kill |
19905s | only giving you plus one |
19907s | has made so much less of a difference |
19909s | than I thought it it hurts but it's |
19912s | really not killing the deck as I |
19914s | initially anticipated it would if you |
19916s | get down a wildfire played Thorn grasp |
19919s | and get one or an honorable kill that's |
19920s | five a turn that will kill them |
19922s | extremely greatly and so I I do agree |
19925s | that for love storm I like where he's at |
19926s | in this particular match he just needs |
19928s | to make sure first of all hopefully that |
19930s | Bonnie doesn't hit the absolute nuts at |
19932s | the start and that he is always |
19934s | prioritizing that damage that is where |
19936s | this matchup really comes into his own |
19938s | for the Ping Mage where you're just |
19939s | getting damaged face every single turn |
19941s | and one thing I do want to keep an eye |
19943s | on as well it's something that really |
19945s | stuck out in algero's game so against |
19947s | bunny Hopper was Algeria was like |
19949s | heavily playing around barbaric |
19951s | sorceress like you know throwing an |
19954s | alibi away even in some of the other |
19956s | matchups as well basically just empties |
19958s | of hand of everything that was going to |
19960s | be too dangerous if the Sorceress came |
19962s | down and I'm very interested that if the |
19964s | love stomp's in that position uh to what |
19966s | length does he go go to play around that |
19969s | card because it's difficult it's one of |
19971s | those cards where it doesn't even have |
19973s | to be in hand right to affect your |
19975s | opponent just the idea of it being |
19977s | available is enough to make your |
19979s | opponent think twice about certain |
19980s | players around that turn you know five |
19982s | or six depending on how many mailbox |
19984s | dances we've seen but let's get into it |
19986s | just a reminder for everyone it's the |
19988s | last match of Group C we are of course |
19990s | going to be following up with Group D |
19992s | shortly after but to put this one simply |
19995s | the winner moves on to tomorrow and has |
19997s | a chance to the world championship the |
19999s | loser is out they're done finished it's |
20002s | over for the year |
20003s | yep very very simple as you said with |
20006s | only the world championship left to come |
20007s | in terms of uh standard play in |
20010s | competitive Hearthstone this is really |
20012s | their last shot at making it there as |
20015s | love store makes a mulligan that I |
20017s | absolutely love to see yeah definitely |
20020s | not the obvious one at first call |
20021s | because with a one two three with the |
20024s | wildfire snowflorid dungeoneer that |
20026s | seemed like an incredibly easy play of |
20028s | just going with that standard Mana curve |
20031s | but the Lesser spotted play of coin bran |
20034s | into dungeoneer is definitely the |
20036s | spicier option yeah that's very solid |
20039s | especially because you know very |
20041s | specific things would have to happen to |
20043s | actually make that brand killable |
20045s | exactly right like exactly a pelican |
20048s | plate that turned before right is is |
20051s | close to all that's really going to be |
20052s | available for bunny Hopper does have the |
20054s | Pelican out now but again it's just so |
20057s | likely that there's just trades into the |
20059s | 2-2 and as you said very suddenly coin |
20062s | bran into dungeonaire is like super |
20064s | strong not only on board but just the |
20066s | fact of just drawing more cards whilst |
20068s | putting pressure on |
20072s | those of course make things a little bit |
20073s | awkward for now for lovestorm because |
20077s | the plan of going coin brand into |
20079s | dungeoneer and drawing two cards that |
20080s | are more expensive that feels an awful |
20083s | lot worse which is why I was gonna say I |
20085s | thought this might end up on a Cold Case |
20087s | uh just to be able to kill that off more |
20088s | efficiently but he's sticking with it uh |
20091s | carrying on with the Bram |
20093s | yeah I think even if this doesn't work |
20095s | out perfectly smooth whether he |
20098s | you know trades pings or does something |
20101s | else we'll have to say on that turn of |
20103s | course but even if it's drawing Cards |
20105s | into increased cost coin Brands still |
20107s | probably the most disruptive thing he |
20109s | can just do against bunny Hopper as well |
20111s | because no matter which way you look at |
20113s | it here this is not a fun turn for bunny |
20115s | Hopper because he now just knows there's |
20118s | follow-ups that can you know cause |
20120s | issues with this brand on board and |
20121s | there's no good way to deal with it |
20125s | yeah I don't think for Buddy Hopper |
20127s | there we can be quite brave enough to |
20128s | pick the fireball even though your uh |
20131s | your opponent is at 30 and you're at 40. |
20133s | uh for the late game way too juicy to |
20136s | give them |
20141s | an interesting choice between the two |
20144s | isn't it because it's not like overflow |
20147s | kills brand next turn right so it's not |
20149s | like a super obvious pick |
20152s | um the Gateway of course not going to be |
20154s | chosen I'm pretty sure but between the |
20157s | Fireball and overflow yes yes love song |
20160s | does end up picking the right one I |
20162s | think you know he got to that logic in |
20163s | the end right but there is a chance that |
20166s | Buddy's like he's never going to choose |
20167s | Fireball it's so obvious so that just |
20169s | Picks It Anyway |
20172s | It Go with the dungeon today double |
20174s | three cost Alibi so |
20177s | not the worst right I think that's just |
20179s | fine uh he does have the reduction on |
20181s | the Cold Case as well so sort of |
20183s | spreading around some of the things that |
20185s | now suddenly all these spells are |
20186s | costing three regardless |
20188s | and it's pretty funny here because this |
20189s | style of play from the lobstorm is |
20191s | actually very reminiscent of Fino when |
20194s | he was playing at the Solari party a |
20196s | couple months ago now where he was one |
20199s | of the first players to be really |
20201s | realizing this in power of the 30 card |
20203s | ping mage deck when it was still |
20204s | relatively new with the new cards from |
20206s | the expansion Cold Case and the like in |
20208s | there as well |
20208s | and his opponents would keep playing |
20211s | these uh these watch posts against them |
20214s | and he'd keep ignoring them and just |
20216s | punched him in the face and they just |
20218s | died because Frozen touch was not really |
20220s | a discovered card at the time he was one |
20222s | of the first plays to really grasp how |
20223s | powerful that card could really be and |
20226s | you know in this instance the beat down |
20228s | is not going quite so well for love |
20230s | stormy starting to lose the board uh but |
20232s | the the essence of the play is still |
20234s | there and he's going very aggressive for |
20235s | face damage which is as I said what it |
20238s | should be focusing on yeah and he's |
20240s | still you know at least keeping up for |
20242s | now does get the Wildfire active uh that |
20245s | Frozen touch will of course go back to |
20247s | two once he's played it and so he's |
20249s | still doing okay and with double Frozen |
20250s | Alibi and yes a slightly delayed Dawn |
20254s | grasp with it being a cast he's still |
20256s | got a good plan I think the fear right |
20258s | now |
20259s | the love song is probably just cultural |
20262s | right like yes he he drew the two side |
20264s | Alibis you know very nice but |
20267s | they're not cards you play on curve |
20269s | generally right so it is okay for now |
20272s | but he's just gonna maybe get hold of |
20274s | another you know uh strong play or two |
20277s | to get him to that Dawn grasp |
20279s | and Bunny here needs to be very very |
20281s | careful sorry to cut you off with his uh |
20283s | his Manor expenditure in the next couple |
20285s | turns because while these all seem to be |
20287s | powerful |
20289s | plays in their own right uh he needs to |
20292s | be making sure he's setting up for the |
20294s | power plays he could draw uh like for |
20296s | example you know just going for the |
20298s | Arcane overflow here is probably the |
20299s | strongest play but we want to be making |
20301s | sure if we do steal don't grasp both of |
20305s | theater we have time to to play it |
20307s | afterwards as well so definitely not a |
20309s | case of just spending your manner on |
20311s | these next few seconds I don't think |
20314s | yeah I think we're very quickly getting |
20317s | to the point that Bunny Hop is |
20318s | potentially ahead enough on board that |
20321s | he can just say you know what I will |
20323s | just spend five minutes on theater now |
20324s | like the rush down has stopped I'll |
20326s | throw it down see what I can grab even |
20328s | though I know that all the cards cost |
20331s | one more or more or less all of them |
20333s | anyway |
20334s | somewhat tempting to just get down the |
20336s | Arcane uh overflow here for |
20340s | love storm as well just because you know |
20343s | it's pretty good here against this board |
20345s | of course but it's just an Arcane spell |
20347s | in door grass pool which is going to be |
20349s | very very strong when it comes down yeah |
20351s | interesting Target wise as well right |
20354s | getting the bigger minion for himself |
20356s | and just potentially taking 10 to the |
20359s | face like yes love storm is pushing and |
20361s | he is generally the aggressors in the |
20364s | the turn one aggressor from the game |
20367s | obviously bunnyoper can very quickly |
20369s | turn into the aggressor if he gets some |
20371s | of the you know big turn six players |
20372s | this deck can do but little storms |
20375s | pushed his opponent now to 32 but bunny |
20378s | Hopper can attack with a seven and seven |
20380s | so like |
20383s | just plays Amplified and maybe okani |
20387s | freeze the 7-7 and go face like maybe |
20389s | I'm I'm you know me dark |
20391s | and go face you normally will for me but |
20394s | it just looks good because you just stay |
20396s | ahead at that point |
20400s | it's actually very interesting with this |
20402s | theater as well because obviously I'm |
20404s | thinking he wants to try and fit it in |
20405s | before turn seven in order to try and |
20408s | steal the dawn grasp but if you think |
20410s | keeping track he actually knows that |
20411s | every single card costs a lot more right |
20414s | now so he has until turn eight uh in |
20417s | order to steal the dawn grasp unless |
20419s | it's top deck specifically yeah next |
20421s | turn in which case he could disrupt it |
20423s | then |
20424s | um I can wait right he knows he's not |
20426s | kept in his hand because all his kept |
20428s | cards have been played and then yeah if |
20430s | Dawn grasp isn't eight then it needs not |
20433s | drawn yet so it's fine |
20435s | I love this though phrase push Seven 22 |
20439s | let's go |
20442s | in terms of cross spells it's |
20445s | just Cold Case right now |
20448s | Frozen touch as well now |
20450s | um but Frozen touch it doesn't feel |
20453s | fantastic it's got to be said getting in |
20455s | the door graspoon it's okay because you |
20459s | do get yourself another default pros and |
20461s | touch when it's cast uh but it does just |
20463s | fly anywhere you know you can shoot |
20464s | yourself in the face as I've done many |
20466s | times same I don't think I've ever hit |
20469s | my opponent with cards that don't Auto |
20470s | Target enemies |
20473s | let me back soldier in OverWatch unless |
20475s | I'm alting I do not hit a goddamn thing |
20479s | by the Rockets completely yeah take a |
20482s | wall off the side of the map like got |
20484s | him drop your heel then run out of it |
20486s | they've got a forest someone switched to |
20488s | Soldier uh you do not want me to do that |
20491s | trust me |
20492s | give me five minutes to get my all and |
20495s | then I'll be effective let's go |
20499s | okay all three costs here off the |
20502s | naggling which is |
20503s | of course what you want to be seeing |
20509s | if that was objection instead of |
20511s | explosive rooms I'd be much more |
20513s | interested in taking it because so many |
20515s | of the Mage minions are battle cries |
20519s | but I think the essence there is still |
20522s | the disrupting minions against this deck |
20524s | is more important than the Spells so I |
20527s | prefer over the counter spell |
20535s | also it's important to note that bunny |
20537s | Hopper is playing a starfish in the list |
20540s | we saw that in this match earlier coming |
20542s | clutch they've been able to unfreeze the |
20544s | whole board so there is an element where |
20546s | if lovestone plays this Varden freeze |
20549s | the board it does not mean the board |
20552s | stays Frozen right he still has to at |
20554s | least acknowledge the chance he might |
20556s | not be able to do anything about it and |
20557s | takes it anyway but |
20559s | he has to at least consider it do you |
20561s | see The Reckless Apprentice getting |
20562s | blown up by the roots |
20565s | yeah you do obviously get the uh the |
20567s | liberty of knowing what the secret is at |
20569s | least when you play off the Naga link |
20570s | said no real danger there uh |
20574s | and I I think I respect uh love storm |
20577s | going with these lines where he is just |
20579s | still tanking a bit of damage because I |
20581s | think even as low as he is now until you |
20584s | see the hero card from your opponent |
20586s | you're not scared |
20593s | he knows the answer to that one |
20596s | knows it's not bran here |
20601s | so he can make a guess on solid Alibi |
20603s | because he knows actually I think he |
20605s | could guess that 100 because both the |
20606s | spells in hand activated the |
20612s | uh or very likely they both activated |
20614s | the dungeon it so we had a good chance |
20615s | of guessing the first spell over the |
20616s | arcane |
20620s | and now the tricky one because it's like |
20622s | well it's turned seven and right play |
20625s | Dawn grass but |
20628s | ah got it wrong so close |
20633s | but now does he just drop theater anyway |
20637s | unless he does a tradable he can't kill |
20639s | this 7-6 regardless so I like this |
20642s | and I think actually if he clicked Val |
20644s | didn't they he knew it must be in the |
20647s | hand right if it wasn't in the day yeah |
20649s | if it's not in the deck and it's not |
20650s | been played well there's only places it |
20652s | can be it doesn't take murloc homes to |
20654s | figure this one now I'm pretty sure I |
20656s | could manage that |
20659s | uh but he misses of course gets baby |
20661s | burden instead of uh hero cardboard and |
20665s | and in a single term it was looking so |
20668s | hopeful so many options available to |
20669s | Bonnie Hopper things are starting to |
20671s | look a lot worse |
20674s | he does have coin Drake fire |
20676s | and he did take away one of the solid |
20678s | Alibis because that's one of the things |
20680s | that can really slow money up and down |
20682s | is like uh the Varden now then solid |
20685s | Alibi solid Alibi and suddenly oh my God |
20688s | they've been pinging me while I well |
20689s | I've been dealing one damage to them at |
20691s | a time |
20692s | oh it gets the perfect outcome the uh |
20695s | the Cold Case as well there was a chance |
20698s | as we said to just get Frozen touch |
20701s | which you know could have shot himself |
20702s | in the face down to 14 Health but now |
20704s | it's a pretty big swing giving these up |
20706s | to 26 again now yep |
20708s | these dragons are gonna have to do some |
20710s | work |
20714s | I always question like oh is it |
20716s | primordial Drake here because it's a ton |
20718s | but it's so much less damage but I do |
20721s | think bunny Opera was kind of just |
20723s | forced into this does get brood mother |
20725s | as well most importantly he knows the |
20728s | Don grasp is in the hand still as in |
20730s | little Dawn grass but this will fill the |
20733s | board he can just ping starfish in the |
20736s | exact way he did in his previous series |
20738s | earlier on today |
20740s | so he knows he's got like the sort of |
20743s | surprise Factor obviously love some |
20744s | knows he runs a starfish but there's 27 |
20747s | cards left in the deck |
20750s | so now as love storm we start thinking |
20752s | is it worth honorable killing with my |
20754s | hero power to upgrade it or do I just |
20757s | launch these all straight to the Dome uh |
20760s | in this instance I think because there's |
20762s | a taunt in the way that could allow you |
20763s | to get some Minion damage face it's |
20765s | worth taking out the primordial Drake |
20768s | here with the trade plus the hero power |
20773s | uh oh but it's up to five and all four |
20775s | apologies because two have been played |
20777s | okay fair enough I was I was with you I |
20779s | was wondering what was going on and I |
20780s | was like oh yeah that makes sense yeah |
20782s | just gonna work on just clearing up the |
20784s | big threats from the board and suddenly |
20786s | because love storm didn't say you know |
20788s | what phrase I think in a weird way it |
20792s | would have been |
20793s | I don't want to say better but would |
20794s | have been interesting Steve but he |
20796s | actually didn't pick the tone |
20801s | but then Bunny Gets to unlock and then |
20803s | play his own solid Alibi maybe and that |
20805s | would have been enough it would have |
20807s | been very interesting to see the outcome |
20808s | there but this hand is garbage |
20813s | the bunny Hopper |
20815s | yeah pure garbanzo beans right now |
20819s | like you have to |
20821s | throw away the starfish and then just |
20823s | recycle the the solid Alibi into a |
20826s | different card the problem is |
20829s | it's fair to assume this is a spell |
20830s | block right makani |
20833s | I guess yeah yeah because he's only |
20835s | worried about uh Rune of the archimage |
20837s | sure right yeah okay surely so oh okay |
20841s | well there's Don grass but that's |
20842s | something those are a lot better yeah |
20845s | how did that work how did you pull that |
20848s | off |
20849s | kill |
20859s | or not |
20862s | oh |
20864s | so many great choices oh that was so |
20868s | Target key |
20870s | oh was he supposed to trade one of the |
20874s | one once into the akani first |
20879s | oh because he didn't have space right |
20882s | right yeah and then in that case if it |
20885s | happens in that order he still has the |
20887s | 50 50 for the Arcane overflow to hit the |
20891s | skeleton |
20892s | and also losing a 1-1 just doesn't |
20896s | matter does it you know like |
20898s | oh and now buddy but he knows his |
20901s | starfish is bottom of the deck oh no |
20904s | come back oh wait I didn't mean to say |
20907s | these new cards were better |
20914s | now even though I love Style |
20916s | was a little bit behind it looks like |
20918s | he's behind on board which arguably is |
20920s | this freeze and then having solid Alibi |
20923s | Frozen touch hero power again |
20926s | huge and he has enough to actually |
20928s | Infuse the the Frozen touch again next |
20931s | turn right or close to enough depending |
20933s | on how this one plays out close yeah |
20934s | yeah he can uh oh man he really wishes |
20938s | he had just one more minion on board |
20942s | but I will say bunny Hopper is is far |
20945s | from out of this right there's a lot of |
20946s | damage coming face every turn absolutely |
20948s | here for love storm however bran evoker |
20952s | with no freeze on the board to stop that |
20954s | from you know the minions being able to |
20956s | trade in and make room for that it's not |
20958s | that much at all for love storm he's |
20960s | going to start taking some pig damage |
20962s | very soon yeah the problem is Bunny's |
20965s | Dead next turn unless something |
20967s | miraculous happens right because it's |
20970s | just ping Frozen touch Frozen touch |
20972s | right and that is the problem this |
20975s | Frozen Alibi has been able to be held on |
20977s | to for so long because bunny didn't you |
20980s | know get a rune of the archmage or a |
20982s | drake fight amulet early on it's huge |
20985s | right because when you can save side |
20987s | alibiot of this stage of the game and |
20989s | you're the one playing ping maid it's a |
20991s | disaster for your opponent |
20993s | eat water though with bran oh yeah oh oh |
20997s | no the solid elevatory shuffled in yikas |
21001s | could have been so much more armor yeah |
21004s | well I mean solid Alamo is still a |
21006s | fantastic card actually to have in this |
21008s | instance that kind of just buys him a |
21009s | full extra turn |
21013s | I don't think it'd be ridiculous to play |
21014s | it now actually to be honest uh you know |
21017s | you're gonna take at least one Frozen |
21018s | touch plus a thing to the face next turn |
21020s | anyway |
21022s | and your opponent likely wants to |
21026s | uh hit this board with more trash and so |
21029s | if you solid alibiot massively neuters |
21032s | the problem the problem is the Ping |
21034s | isn't bunny on three |
21036s | with the ping yeah but it's only dealing |
21038s | one oh no sorry it's on four oh okay |
21043s | you went for the uh The Honorable kill |
21044s | yeah yeah yeah |
21048s | and he just saying okay well |
21050s | tell me what you got |
21056s | and we know there's no solid Alibi |
21058s | available for love storm the other one |
21059s | is well in Bunny's hand right now |
21067s | a lot of time put him to two |
21072s | not yeah not really now not enough Mana |
21075s | you know at the start of the turn he |
21077s | could yeah |
21081s | Reckless |
21082s | okay well there goes the board for bunny |
21087s | yep the Ping as well that will therefore |
21089s | clear I'll be honest that felt like so |
21091s | brave from Lobster because he has two |
21094s | infused Frozen touch which basically |
21097s | equate lethal in two turns and he |
21100s | decided to you know cycle them away and |
21102s | got a board clear and he's suddenly yet |
21104s | again in a very strong position and body |
21108s | now has to make the choice once more |
21109s | does he play Alibi does he have to play |
21113s | Rune does alibi just mean he's in the |
21115s | same spot but worse next turn like |
21117s | should he just play Rune of the arcmage |
21123s | because what does alibi like really |
21126s | achieve right now |
21129s | well it means more dress doesn't just |
21131s | kill him on the spot |
21134s | yeah but it's just tough right because |
21136s | then love storm just doesn't play more |
21138s | dress and then does it next to it and |
21140s | then probably stairs it is ruined of the |
21142s | archmage next turn instead so I wonder |
21145s | if it's just you know what just press |
21147s | the button see what it does |
21149s | you can deal eight to them on this turn |
21151s | with Apprentice ping probably an alibi |
21153s | as well I would have to guess |
21155s | uh bring them down to 13. let's hope for |
21159s | room to finish off I guess |
21162s | it's so unlikely |
21165s | you know I mean it's it's basically it's |
21167s | 13 damage just doesn't happen off of |
21171s | roon until |
21172s | yeah well or fool me the only time 13 |
21176s | damage has happened to me is when it |
21178s | actually hits me |
21180s | somehow and I'm like how did this even |
21182s | not even possible |
21185s | you've not seen me play |
21193s | hmm |
21195s | not with the cycle of the Viper again |
21198s | Tech card not for this matchup |
21201s | long gone are the days of uh alunaf |
21204s | let's start with the cycle there I feel |
21206s | like I'd rather have an even amount of |
21208s | Mana |
21209s | leftovers because you prefer even over |
21212s | audible well most things are even right |
21214s | like you could have got double Frozen |
21216s | touch plus ping uh or Cold Case ping you |
21220s | know something like that |
21221s | no reason to well not no reason to not |
21224s | play the Frozen touch but I can at least |
21225s | throw one out here right |
21230s | I mean |
21232s | yeah the question's still going to be |
21233s | the same bunny either does some of this |
21235s | turn or dies let me remind you who you |
21237s | are misses something |
21240s | yeah big start |
21244s | face oh |
21248s | oh Iceberg Cold Case okay we're looking |
21251s | for an alibi now |
21257s | into tiny little pieces oh just so much |
21260s | mana on useless spells |
21262s | uh enough to save him though potentially |
21267s | if you go flurry and then |
21270s | dicks |
21272s | plus another nine |
21274s | it's one off actually right now if it's |
21277s | barrier which we can see it is |
21280s | because there's nine plus six uh as I |
21283s | count it foreign |
21289s | but if it's uh objection then that's not |
21291s | lethal okay so there is actually lethal |
21294s | here |
21295s | but you just have to take the risk on |
21297s | objection and if you miss |
21300s | kind of just die actually uh very |
21302s | possibly they could have more drish on |
21304s | the other side to just kill you |
21306s | don't you don't you only die if they |
21309s | have more dress though |
21315s | but yeah but ruins just so like if |
21318s | they're playing they're not hero |
21320s | powering right |
21322s | okay that doesn't Infuse it which would |
21325s | have been the other way to hit Leadville |
21327s | oh against the extra hell |
21332s | God |
21334s | how are Decks that can do this much |
21336s | damage not actually killing each other |
21344s | one off for bunnies his hair parrot four |
21349s | uh I think so right because he didn't |
21351s | when I said three it was at four |
21355s | and he didn't uh honorable kill because |
21357s | he killed a 2-3 with a four ping oh wait |
21359s | so the mortgage has the the skeleton has |
21361s | to hit the skeleton and hit face |
21365s | wait wait |
21368s | oh no man oh no |
21372s | oh kidding |
21380s | and that's just gonna be game |
21382s | Bunny with the big brain play I honestly |
21385s | didn't even think about that until you |
21387s | mentioned it but it just didn't get the |
21389s | hit he needed the skeleton to be hit die |
21392s | deal two to the to love storm and then |
21394s | paying for the finish that was such a |
21396s | good play but it just it didn't happen |
21403s | and there's nothing right it's just |
21405s | actually nothing burning up a Shaker |
21407s | seemed to one and love storm all he has |
21411s | to do is aim this hero power and that's |
21413s | going to be game number one going to |
21415s | love storm could it have even |
21418s | closer Derek I think literally not |
21423s | Bunny Hop for here is going to be |
21424s | running through every single one of |
21427s | those many many series of unfortunate |
21429s | events in that game like |
21431s | murloc homes effectively coming down to |
21434s | like a 50 50 on the last one to get it |
21436s | right getting it wrong okay at least I |
21438s | have information now I know that the uh |
21440s | the heroes in hand missing the 50 50 on |
21442s | that one to get it off the uh the |
21444s | theater as well all these little things |
21446s | as well like the order on his uh Varden |
21450s | hero uh sorry Varden Battle Cry being |
21452s | the worst possible outcome that it could |
21455s | be right like the 50 50 to get this uh |
21458s | the sorry the Drake fire amulet second |
21461s | instead of first the Arcane over before |
21462s | the wrong minion it was like buy 50 50s |
21465s | in a row something in this and then |
21467s | right at the end there he just needed to |
21468s | hit one of two one in threes in order to |
21470s | for it to hit the skeleton like it it |
21473s | starts spiraling into absurdity uh when |
21476s | you start figuring it all out yeah that |
21478s | is gonna be a tough one to come back |
21480s | from for bunny half of here even though |
21482s | it is only game one we've got plenty |
21484s | more where that came from but it does |
21486s | look like Bunny Hop is taking a quick |
21487s | break from that Mage and I don't blame |
21490s | him at this point and jumping over to |
21492s | his shame and we're there as I've said |
21493s | before the two key cards Derek the |
21496s | framester we've already seen it strike |
21498s | once today uh against this opponent and |
21501s | also the I win card called glug the |
21503s | gulper |
21504s | oh I mean those fools teasing you here |
21507s | like make no mistake I love jumping on |
21510s | the Ravens and idiot bandwagon in this |
21512s | sense who doesn't exactly you could not |
21515s | be more correct Raven glug is just glug |
21517s | you play it and your opponent concedes |
21519s | the game it's just the rules I have I |
21522s | believe it or not watch a lot of |
21524s | hearthstone streams I love Hearthstone |
21526s | I've cast many tournaments since cloak's |
21529s | been in the game I've never seen it |
21531s | killed |
21532s | once not once it's never happened I I |
21535s | think it's actually got hidden text |
21536s | which simply cannot be killed wins games |
21540s | done but yes I do like the frame set in |
21543s | here as well a card I honestly just |
21546s | completely caught me off guard when I |
21548s | was looking at Bunny Hop as their deck |
21549s | submission and was like what is this uh |
21552s | but yeah it's good he's gonna make up |
21554s | some of these uh nerfed cards that we've |
21556s | seen from shame in a while back uh |
21557s | somewhere and I like it the inclusion |
21560s | right just to potentially cause some |
21562s | issues for your opponent because just as |
21564s | many you know 50 50s that bunnies say |
21567s | missed in that previous game well |
21569s | framester can hit at the right time that |
21571s | we've already seen happen today as well |
21573s | so you know maybe it's one of those |
21575s | things that can help him out uh it does |
21576s | a lot of love so I'm still picking what |
21578s | a deck he's gonna play into now but he |
21581s | does now only have the priest left which |
21583s | is bore priest and then the Demon Hunter |
21585s | as well so how do you feel like love |
21588s | storms looking in this series and just |
21590s | what do you think of the lineup in |
21591s | general because I feel like this is more |
21593s | of the one of the out there lineups it |
21595s | doesn't feel like it's hard targeting |
21597s | anything specifically but it's |
21600s | definitely got a nice mixed bag of decks |
21602s | with the alignment during banned out |
21604s | yeah exactly I think the best thing we |
21606s | could call it is antique control it's |
21609s | like a reasonable assessment for the |
21611s | deck because you have the alignment |
21612s | Druid in there in order to you know have |
21615s | this very powerful pop-up potential |
21617s | later on in the game but priest we know |
21619s | is a very very strict combo deck that a |
21621s | lot of the control decks could lose to |
21622s | and major I think as well actually as |
21624s | we've seen if it can go into the late |
21626s | game really has the capabilities to lock |
21628s | down these control decks which you know |
21630s | is exactly what Bonnie's lineup is when |
21633s | we look at it all these very very slow |
21634s | decks like the shaman in there as well |
21636s | the Mage very slow as well and yet bunny |
21639s | Hopper was able to get it done in the |
21642s | previous series |
21643s | um just because I think you know overall |
21645s | for me the power level of Druid the |
21647s | power level of priest right now it's |
21650s | just not quite there like I fully |
21653s | appreciate that if you are Fury hunter |
21654s | or pocket trainer specifically you're |
21657s | allowed to play ball priest and you'll |
21659s | probably do quite well but for anything |
21662s | other than absolutely perfect play I do |
21666s | honestly just not have faith in this |
21667s | deck I think it's too susceptible to the |
21670s | uh extreme Outburst of pressure not just |
21674s | in the form of small minions played on |
21677s | curve in a zoo-like fashion but the |
21679s | location from warlock huge burst of |
21681s | stats the uh location from Rogue a huge |
21684s | burst of stats or draca coming down as |
21686s | well you only have one that light it |
21688s | burns in the deck which for me just |
21689s | leaves you a little bit too flimsy in |
21691s | terms of your defense |
21693s | yeah it's uh it's definitely scary isn't |
21696s | it like because although as you said |
21699s | there are certain players that have you |
21701s | know easily mastered the deck and you |
21703s | know that it's hard to even cast |
21705s | honestly certain place right because |
21707s | it's like well you just know what |
21708s | they've done is correct or at least as |
21710s | correct as we could see |
21712s | um but yeah I think this is definitely a |
21714s | testing deck and we'll have to see how |
21715s | it performs here but it is going up |
21717s | against the shaving and it's just even |
21719s | though there's the threat of glug uh |
21722s | this priest could just go way too fast |
21724s | Shaman we've seen time and time again is |
21727s | just a little bit clunky isn't it it's |
21729s | been a while since I've feel like I've |
21731s | seen a very smooth shaming game play out |
21735s | indeed yeah feeling like a real Tusk of |
21739s | its former glory when we think back to |
21741s | the power level that Shaman had in |
21743s | recent times |
21745s | um I will say that I think in this |
21747s | specific matchup if we can find that |
21749s | Tech card framester could be enormous |
21752s | can you imagine uh playing ball priest |
21755s | when randomly you just have less Mana in |
21758s | like three of your key turns I I really |
21760s | think a bunny Hopper can find that |
21762s | it's far from an auto win but that's |
21765s | going to buy him like at least two extra |
21767s | turns in order to be able to find some |
21769s | extra damage yeah we just you just need |
21771s | to go full in on their brand frame still |
21773s | right just go off oh please just Shuffle |
21776s | everything and it's like oh look at that |
21779s | you're overloaded again what a shame |
21781s | it's turn eight and you have zero manner |
21789s | yes give it to me |
21792s | uh which I mean is the name of the game |
21794s | here for bunny Hopper right like as a |
21795s | deck that has limited aggressive |
21797s | potential in the early game and the kind |
21799s | of aggressive potential that ball priest |
21801s | can answer uh disruption is the name of |
21803s | the game Shaman is the king of it right |
21805s | now absolutely no question about it and |
21809s | with uh akani theater |
21812s | um |
21813s | uh mutinous sorry parrot to copy all of |
21816s | those and Frames the tossed into the mix |
21818s | as well uh I think that love storm |
21822s | you know just the confusion Factor alone |
21825s | is worth a huge amount in here because |
21827s | as we said if he just has his pyro |
21829s | chomped by uh mutinous later on in the |
21832s | game or he has two less mana on a key |
21834s | combo turn your brain could just melt |
21836s | down if you're not used to these |
21837s | situations yeah and even I doubt little |
21840s | Storm's going to put himself in this |
21841s | position because it's not a you know big |
21843s | brain sort of Dodge thing to think about |
21846s | but he he won't just play Irwin bars and |
21849s | leave him on board but he also has to |
21851s | make sure he's thinking about that right |
21853s | because he's also as you said he's got |
21854s | about 50 different things to think about |
21856s | the bunny Hopper could disrupt him with |
21858s | and you've also just got to remember you |
21860s | could just devolve these minions if you |
21862s | wanted to right if they're left on board |
21863s | so there's just so many layers and love |
21867s | storm must already be feeling overloaded |
21870s | just staring at this brand it's like |
21872s | please know |
21875s | yeah well if it wasn't before now even |
21877s | though you have you know more |
21879s | information than a usual akani here the |
21882s | information you have is you're in |
21883s | trouble because |
21885s | a coin being used to Discount the Spell |
21888s | yuck and any of these minions being lost |
21891s | to the akani feels absolutely back |
21894s | breaking like honestly because you have |
21896s | the cleric pyro gift of the naaru combo |
21899s | maybe you toss away handmaiden on the |
21902s | next turn |
21905s | and it's so tricky isn't it there's |
21908s | still |
21909s | one more drawer I guess full of storm to |
21912s | decide he might draw into something |
21914s | that's a little bit nicer to throw away |
21916s | but it's the ever-present problem isn't |
21918s | it with this priest is when you do go up |
21920s | against akani you need to be absolutely |
21923s | certain in every situation what is the |
21926s | correcting throw away |
21930s | what do you think now do you think just |
21931s | a cleric is fine because he has two |
21935s | well now we have more interesting |
21936s | proposal because there's actually a shot |
21938s | of the naaru that you could use to |
21939s | silence the akani after you play another |
21942s | spell so you have the choice to not use |
21944s | a spell and a minion to fully discount |
21945s | it but two spells if you'd rather |
21948s | and so baby that comes in the form of |
21953s | oh just coin shot honestly I'm just not |
21956s | a good enough bull priest player to know |
21958s | what's uh more valuable here because I |
21961s | could believe the coin is more valuable |
21963s | because you just need flexibility on |
21964s | your combo turn but I could also fully |
21966s | believe that Shadowood ruin is the more |
21969s | valuable card because you need to |
21970s | actually be able to clear something |
21972s | predictable |
21979s | had options and that was the choice at |
21981s | the end of the day here on this turn for |
21983s | lovestar |
21984s | and Bunny's probably uh |
21986s | be happy about the way this game is |
21987s | going so far because it's not like love |
21989s | songs gonna really do anything this turn |
21992s | might cycle the silence okay it's gonna |
21994s | play into it no problem so yeah just |
21997s | gonna throw that away |
21999s | but it really is a pretty big deal to uh |
22005s | to lose the silence here rather than |
22006s | actually playing it here getting in |
22008s | account as well because the Brand's |
22009s | still being active with hey what do you |
22011s | know school teacher off the top uh is |
22014s | still pretty spicy |
22018s | yeah it's actually snowballing out of |
22020s | control isn't it |
22021s | seriously the fact that last term was |
22023s | you know waste two cards pass Brand's |
22027s | still there surely love storm has to |
22030s | decide on how to progress the game plan |
22032s | at this point because he can't just let |
22034s | bran sit there although because when we |
22036s | were joking about him being forever |
22038s | overloaded if Brands just sat there all |
22040s | game he will be |
22042s | especially when you're getting cards |
22044s | like this nothing can stop us |
22047s | is a super interesting card to get given |
22050s | here because right now it's just plus |
22052s | two plus two to your board which is |
22053s | probably where I'd uh have my mindset |
22055s | but like clownfish with it in the next |
22058s | couple turns it's like Infinity stats |
22060s | you're playing Battlegrounds at that |
22062s | point not standard |
22067s | you're free he's got a little wind chill |
22068s | here with that naggling to draw even |
22070s | more and I think that's probably the |
22072s | point as well obviously not attacking |
22074s | doesn't want to give love storm any |
22076s | potential value anyways to draw or cycle |
22079s | through the deck yeah |
22083s | and this really does now feel like the |
22085s | turn you've got a three Health cleric |
22087s | because he got rid of the one that had |
22088s | been swapped |
22090s | with the ball importantly so you can go |
22092s | coin pyro cleric |
22095s | devour |
22096s | that will leave you with |
22098s | five Minions on the board damaged after |
22102s | both the 1-1 and the Sleep breaker die |
22106s | will you have enough hand space to draw |
22109s | five cards if you dump the illuminate |
22112s | then yes oh my God it gets so confusing |
22116s | just sit back and enjoy the show yeah |
22119s | indeed okay that's a good one to get |
22126s | okay I think that was a perfect amount |
22128s | of draw actually exactly seven up to ten |
22130s | cards in hand |
22139s | with that slap from Wolf stop to his own |
22142s | face was |
22144s | he messed up or whether he was just |
22146s | saying right wake up and focus I mean I |
22149s | I'm not even going to try and attempt to |
22151s | say whether he messed up or didn't there |
22152s | like |
22153s | of course there's a way he could improve |
22155s | on that term I'm sure there is there |
22157s | were just so many options to have gone |
22159s | for there it's not even close like |
22161s | probably it should have been pyro plus |
22163s | devour first maybe to clear off one |
22166s | extra minion I don't know but |
22167s | effectively I think that was a |
22169s | reasonable enough turn he drew a lot of |
22171s | cards cleared off a bit of the board and |
22173s | didn't let his Elwyn bore be stuck on |
22176s | the board so it could be transformed or |
22177s | stolen most importantly murlocs oh yeah |
22181s | look at this |
22186s | though |
22193s | now trade the pyro with the six three |
22198s | it's a little time |
22204s | I'm interested there why Bonnie didn't |
22207s | commit the ravager |
22210s | I think board space for this uh to get |
22212s | the location down and also he would have |
22214s | overdrawn I think had he died at the |
22216s | time |
22217s | what if you ain't clown clown |
22220s | oh I guess so yeah okay okay yeah sure |
22222s | sure yeah yeah yeah |
22226s | it's less stats Eric |
22230s | look at this now Raven the discounts |
22232s | three Mana mutinous plus a parrot if the |
22236s | brand sticks that's like the biggest |
22238s | Buffet you've ever seen in your life |
22242s | forward space holding him back now and I |
22245s | mean hey if this board isn't cleared off |
22247s | you know be my guest says bunny Hopper |
22251s | yeah you draw some cards |
22254s | enjoy your time |
22258s | or even away like does love storm have |
22262s | to commit this silence |
22266s | I mean not obviously not really to clear |
22268s | the boards necessarily but to just not |
22271s | die yeah it cleans up a lot of damage |
22273s | doesn't it |
22275s | and no brand anymore |
22277s | that's big because I mean otherwise like |
22280s | bunny Hopper could have just gone for |
22282s | the Finley to find framester and then |
22284s | that kind of sends the game at that |
22286s | point with six of them in the deck |
22287s | potentially more with the power as well |
22296s | of storm happy or sad I can't even tell |
22298s | anymore man like |
22301s | in either way this is still 15 damage |
22306s | it doesn't feel like he's gonna get |
22309s | combo off next turn maybe I'm wrong |
22311s | though |
22313s | yeah frustration now for bunny of course |
22315s | that we were talking about three oh no |
22316s | maybe he is actually I think he's |
22318s | actually just killed I just got it yeah |
22320s | he's traded them enough and they both |
22322s | cost zero he doesn't even need the leash |
22324s | oh my brightness I honestly just did not |
22327s | realize the amulets were already done |
22329s | I'll be completely honest I'm because we |
22331s | were looking at it so many ways to like |
22332s | oh how'd he play the board how does he |
22334s | do this I just miss the fact that the |
22336s | amulets were finished God |
22339s | disgusting |
22342s | but well played I'm not aiming that at |
22345s | lovestar I may mean that at this combo |
22348s | The Last Battle Cry played by bunny was |
22352s | warlock ravagirl |
22353s | not gonna get to play there |
22356s | the parrot anyway I suppose I'm just |
22358s | wondering if there's any way he can make |
22359s | something work with these zero Mana |
22360s | cards |
22361s | what is a loon's will because one of the |
22366s | first one's gonna cost four less but |
22367s | then the second one's only gonna cost |
22368s | less |
22370s | e oh will you have time I'm just trying |
22373s | to think because he he will have zero |
22375s | minor null as well right |
22378s | uh |
22381s | uh one manner right but yeah oh sorry |
22383s | yeah I was just thinking like she's big |
22386s | oh he could have won um yeah it's all |
22390s | over now but I was just thinking not |
22392s | this turn but if he just doesn't commit |
22394s | much and then has null Muk pulls the |
22397s | turn after like does that give him any |
22400s | option |
22404s | as a big lifesteal on 10 but then |
22407s | there's still the light it burns which |
22408s | love storm hasn't had to use up until |
22410s | this point |
22411s | and also just double flash heal right |
22414s | like that's right yeah |
22418s | like if bunny Hopper played |
22421s | leotard to steal the |
22425s | uh the hero card up uh by this guy |
22428s | really yeah sorry maybe he could Outlast |
22430s | the amount of damage |
22433s | from the swings because you could put a |
22434s | torn in the way or something but with |
22435s | zarella still on the deck that there's |
22437s | just zero possibility of that |
22441s | um like yeah a bunny knows as well as we |
22443s | do this is |
22445s | very very unlikely but I do think your |
22447s | best chance is using out some kind of a |
22449s | window |
22452s | apparently not though yeah I was even |
22454s | thinking like |
22456s | amalgam get something but there just |
22459s | simply isn't the Mana right it just |
22461s | doesn't matter what you get because |
22463s | Bonnie's just going to be here every |
22465s | single time |
22467s | and love storm because of the way that |
22470s | the uh the deck is now two cards left |
22472s | and he has card draw whenever he wants |
22475s | it so he can guarantee getting zairella |
22478s | whenever yeah he so chooses |
22481s | and the heels just start stacking up now |
22483s | and it's just not going to be good |
22484s | enough for money Hopper is it |
22490s | I'll stop though in the zone like really |
22492s | thinking about do I play this is this a |
22495s | problem if I play it is that a problem |
22496s | if I don't play it even at this stage |
22499s | where the game does feel like almost |
22501s | impossible |
22504s | um |
22510s | was in the deck there was actually a |
22514s | chance but love storm gets the Victory |
22517s | and you can say what you want |
22520s | about love song's ability to Pilot the |
22522s | deck the way he worked his way through |
22524s | that quite difficult game actually early |
22526s | on |
22527s | but let's be honest he won because of |
22529s | glug he got gluged to burn that's just |
22532s | the truth congratulations there to love |
22535s | storm on game two win there he's just |
22537s | got one more game potential left as he |
22540s | has this Demon Hunter left over but |
22543s | all priest does it every time doesn't |
22545s | need Derek and by it I mean confuses and |
22548s | trick us as we go because it's so |
22550s | there's so many little decisions you can |
22552s | make but I think the biggest factor for |
22554s | me was |
22555s | um that love storm actually held off |
22557s | that really strong opening from bunny |
22560s | whilst actually progressing his game |
22563s | plan right I like I said I did not know |
22565s | if those amulets were shuffled |
22567s | yeah no it was just very very well |
22569s | played by love storm I think in my |
22571s | opinion as you said he uh |
22573s | that card brought home was really not |
22575s | easy and while I fully understand there |
22577s | may have been ways to improve upon it |
22579s | I've seen enough complete meltdowns in |
22582s | my time casting Hearthstone to be more |
22585s | than happy to say that was good enough |
22587s | good job he saw a way to draw the |
22590s | correct number of cards up to 10 not |
22591s | overdraw and that was uh perfectly so |
22594s | and then as you said with the glug I now |
22596s | can't get the image out of my mind of |
22598s | him uh akin to the Joker burning his |
22601s | pile of money by setting fire to glug |
22604s | like it's not about the money I'm |
22606s | sending a message |
22608s | I mean all this is doing is backing up |
22610s | my statements about the cards so uh yeah |
22613s | I'm happy with it but the Opera though |
22615s | gonna be jumping over to his jackpot |
22617s | Rogue and uh generally not the exact |
22620s | list of course because times have |
22622s | changed but generally if bunny Hopper |
22624s | can play some kind of generation style |
22627s | Rogue he does and he normally does very |
22629s | well so nice to see bunny Hopper on this |
22631s | list again the big hiccups I've found |
22635s | with this when playing it is when you |
22637s | don't like uh transition from the |
22640s | opening secret sort of package of your |
22642s | deck into the uh the generation with |
22645s | jackpots and stuff smoothly a lot of the |
22647s | time you can get some of the good stuff |
22649s | early and then you just never draw |
22652s | jackpot and then your deck kind of just |
22653s | flails around and does nothing I don't |
22656s | know if you've had much experience |
22657s | playing the deck Tire I have had a bit |
22659s | yeah but I mean we don't have to get to |
22661s | our own experience we can go to Bonnie's |
22663s | experience playing against lobstorm in |
22665s | this exact matchup earlier on today that |
22667s | was the one game you lost against love |
22669s | storm earlier on where he was just doing |
22670s | exactly what you said not really |
22672s | transitioning over into the late game uh |
22675s | you know almost getting there like |
22677s | coming close to getting a dinathrius |
22678s | down to try and stabilize the game but |
22680s | just being less efficient overall than |
22682s | lovestorm was because the cards fall in |
22685s | the right right order there's very |
22688s | little in the game that could be quite |
22689s | as efficient as Relic Demon Hunter but |
22692s | yes as you say I think the Rogue |
22695s | ideally if you can we'll be trying to |
22697s | get under the Demon Hunter before it |
22700s | gets off to two explosive of a start |
22702s | because they are both Decks that |
22704s | struggle to an extent to pull back a |
22706s | board that they've lost they have some |
22709s | little tricks up their sleeve in the |
22710s | form of relic of Extinction fell barrage |
22712s | for this deck uh the the Knowles uh |
22715s | something you can get of jackpot for the |
22717s | the Rogue as well but I I find a lot of |
22719s | the time it's about just getting ahead |
22721s | on board at the start so you don't take |
22722s | too much damage on either side because |
22724s | both decks capitalize heavily on having |
22727s | any kind of board control with a swift |
22728s | lethal yeah one of the really strong |
22731s | things the road can actually do if a |
22733s | bunny can set it up of course is use |
22735s | that ghastly Gravedigger because in this |
22739s | uh Demon Hunter deck your Mulligans I'm |
22741s | not saying The Mulligans are easy but |
22743s | you are looking for like specifically |
22745s | two cards right like nine times out of |
22748s | ten and if they don't have those cards |
22750s | by you know turn five also then great |
22752s | but the gassy Gravedigger you can just |
22755s | Shuffle one back so if you can hit like |
22757s | a the relative dimensions with that |
22760s | before it's played that actually slows |
22762s | the demon to down so much right uh |
22764s | definitely a little bit tricky to pull |
22766s | off because well you need to draw the |
22767s | gravedigger and have a secret active to |
22770s | do it you know get all that lined up but |
22772s | it is one thing that you could really |
22773s | push back because the times we've seen |
22775s | Demon Hunter really look stronger at |
22777s | least the Relic version is when they do |
22780s | just get Relic Vault dimensions and |
22782s | maybe one more of the Relic as well to |
22784s | just juice it up a little bit so yeah |
22786s | we'll have to see if that pays off but |
22788s | honestly Derek I've been finding myself |
22789s | really appreciating the aggro Demon |
22792s | Hunter players so far in this tournament |
22794s | I feel like that deck's been very |
22796s | underrated uh based on what we've seen |
22798s | this weekend |
22799s | yeah I I agree I think it does |
22803s | it obviously feels a very different |
22804s | space for The Relic Demon Hunter and I |
22806s | think it's feeling something that a lot |
22807s | of the other decks are maybe missing |
22809s | right now which is just like |
22811s | actual early board clears that I feel |
22814s | like a lot of the other decks are kind |
22816s | of missing right now like Mage would |
22817s | much rather stall uh than clear off the |
22820s | board warlock has a couple of removal |
22821s | tools but nothing all too impactful uh |
22824s | whereas the the aggro Demon Hunter is |
22826s | just absolutely devastatingly powerful |
22828s | in those starting few turns in the way |
22831s | that really Demon Hunter is not and does |
22834s | offer you a little bit more expression |
22836s | uh in your play but if I had to be |
22839s | lovestorm for the rest of the series I |
22842s | think I would prefer The Relic Demon |
22844s | Hunter I think that for Bonnie you know |
22847s | with access to the shaman pretty strong |
22849s | anti-aggro capabilities the Mage a |
22852s | little bit less so but huge life gain |
22854s | potential with the hero card and the |
22856s | evocas as well uh whereas all of those |
22858s | decks against the you know they just |
22861s | give the Demon Hunter a little bit too |
22862s | much time I find where you can slowly |
22865s | ramp up these relics and get |
22867s | insurmountably large numbers of |
22869s | phantasms in the late game yeah that's |
22872s | the thing isn't it if this Demon Hunter |
22873s | does get hold of just a little bit of |
22875s | time just isn't completely dead uh by |
22878s | turn five or six then it is power levels |
22881s | got just skyrockets when you can get to |
22883s | that Relic Dimensions also it's |
22885s | important to note as well that this |
22888s | version is playing the one out draki |
22890s | warblades I've seen a few players play |
22892s | two some players play one and that can |
22894s | be a bit of a big deal because like you |
22895s | said some of the other decks in The Meta |
22898s | can sort of aggro you down and it gets |
22900s | the point where we've actually seen |
22902s | players lose because they didn't quite |
22904s | get to their one-off copy of Val draki |
22906s | fast enough whereas if they've got hold |
22908s | of it earlier then even just gaining |
22911s | like four or five Health in this current |
22912s | meta can wildly change the outcome of a |
22915s | game right it's not like you need to |
22917s | gain hundreds |
22918s | foreign |
22922s | last game of the tournament for bunny |
22925s | Hopper if he's not able to get the win |
22926s | with the Rogue here but I think as |
22929s | you've said a couple times already this |
22931s | is the the signature deck here right for |
22933s | him in this meta game he's been jamming |
22935s | it like an absolute degenerate on ladder |
22938s | and if there's one card to put his faith |
22940s | in this expansion it's the jackpot it |
22943s | shall deliver oh look at love Storm's |
22946s | hand though as well don't get me wrong |
22947s | bunny hop is opening looks fine but love |
22950s | storm |
22952s | what did he have there there we go yeah |
22954s | double Relic so he just needs Relic |
22956s | vault |
22957s | and it's gonna be feeling pretty good |
22959s | about life |
22960s | yeah you say take a look at love Storm's |
22961s | hand having looked at his cam I'm not |
22964s | sure I want to do that because it looks |
22965s | like he's hacked up a lung onto it but |
22967s | uh he's in-game hand I fully agree he's |
22970s | looking for |
22974s | you know null being picked up for bunny |
22976s | Hopper as well not looking too bad |
22978s | either they've got a nice early secret |
22979s | too |
22982s | this is definitely one of the more solid |
22984s | hands right like this is what I was |
22986s | talking about where okay he's got the |
22987s | opening with the secrets and you know |
22989s | some card generation has a null as well |
22992s | to either battle back some aggressive |
22994s | openings or just for Tempo but then the |
22996s | jackpot actually is there right it's |
22999s | when you're missing the jackpot and and |
23000s | maybe the reconnaissance and you're like |
23002s | hmm I've got two secrets in a dream |
23005s | right now |
23009s | and you could obviously rip it right now |
23011s | and still walk away with a zero Mana |
23013s | null |
23014s | I wouldn't hate it start planning for |
23016s | the future win the jackpot step one |
23020s | [Music] |
23023s | okay interesting |
23026s | how interesting I think that remains bad |
23029s | not necessarily like if you're trying to |
23032s | play as you said a little bit more of a |
23033s | control gamepl |
23037s | Ally inefficient but if you can get that |
23039s | down into the pool with the trickster uh |
23043s | then that's a pretty strong AOE that you |
23045s | could repeat multiple times if you find |
23047s | the uh the Contraband stashes as well |
23050s | and rats of extraordinary size you know |
23053s | there's ways that Rogue can fill up the |
23054s | board and then that's again if you play |
23056s | it repeatedly it's the real Tempo that |
23059s | you can gain yourself so it's not just |
23061s | some big rats in hand yeah |
23064s | that works too yeah that could also be |
23066s | good not an Obviously good set of spells |
23069s | uh that leaps out at you but definitely |
23070s | some potential there |
23073s | oh there's Relic Vault though |
23075s | [Music] |
23076s | now we're talking yeah and this this is |
23079s | how strong just this specific |
23081s | combination of cards is love songs |
23083s | doesn't care that there's stuff on the |
23086s | other side of the board he just played a |
23088s | two drop on two that does nothing at |
23090s | least for now and just be like yeah hit |
23092s | me it's fine I'm about to do busted |
23094s | things |
23097s | out the spell yeah probably okay okay |
23100s | yep |
23106s | another Shadow step oh that doesn't do |
23109s | anything actually because the other |
23110s | perjury is in hand but the secrets |
23118s | pretty juicy selection though mountain |
23119s | bear fills out turn five pretty much |
23122s | perfectly |
23125s | yeah I like it a lot |
23129s | and at this stage like a dementor can do |
23132s | you know a lot of damage but nothing's |
23134s | really happened yet and you'd imagine |
23136s | the layered a taunts are actually more |
23138s | effective than the light shower healing |
23140s | right |
23149s | probably taking a reckoning |
23153s | yeah I was actually staring at the |
23154s | second counter spell oh okay well |
23158s | that's a fair point it's it's just so |
23161s | expensive it is it is |
23166s | everybody sees the Power of disruption |
23168s | though |
23174s | oh he just felt pretty instantly what |
23178s | just said you know what |
23180s | that's not cow smell oh he just didn't |
23182s | think oh was that necessary he just had |
23186s | school teacher and predation oh my god I |
23189s | didn't even bring it up because I didn't |
23190s | think it's just instantly I thought for |
23192s | it I did the opposite I saw him do it |
23194s | and I was just |
23196s | docked into silence yeah I was austerity |
23199s | like did that just happen |
23202s | then he's just dead yet did he not think |
23205s | about the secret because |
23207s | the school teacher predation snuggling |
23211s | that's a fine turn right like yeah |
23214s | you're not you know doing The Relic |
23215s | thing straight away but yeah yeah wow |
23218s | you play around the secrets a little bit |
23219s | better |
23221s | I mean you know okay so to give him |
23223s | credit it's not just a straight up |
23224s | discover there right it's a discovery |
23226s | from perjury which gives you Paladin |
23227s | Hunter Mage every time yeah and so it's |
23230s | a one in six I believe for it to be |
23232s | counter spell exactly there because |
23234s | that's fixed Mage spells in standard and |
23237s | like to give him his credit if he |
23238s | thought that was by far his best chance |
23240s | of winning the game |
23241s | and it's only |
23243s | whatever 15 chance or so uh to get it |
23246s | counted |
23247s | it is very unlikely to be fair like like |
23251s | I said if you play school teacher and |
23253s | it's objection |
23254s | well there you go wasted you turn in the |
23257s | same way that he wasted his turn last |
23259s | time but it was the insta play that just |
23262s | shocked me it didn't even oh he just |
23265s | thought fast enough where like yep it's |
23267s | unlikely it's kind of spell let's go |
23274s | it worked so well the first time let's |
23277s | get down another perjury counter spell |
23280s | and hopefully that'll be another counter |
23281s | spell |
23282s | it was on and on and on |
23287s | [Music] |
23290s | opponent's life difficult here with as |
23292s | much disruption as possible |
23295s | now there is our Dragon Ball blades but |
23297s | again |
23304s | did literally nothing this game |
23309s | I don't think love storm did anything to |
23312s | be honest Derek because that was just a |
23314s | no-go there bunny Hopper fights back not |
23318s | gonna get uh you know swept out of the |
23320s | tournament 3-0 by lovestar bunny Hoppers |
23323s | still in for the fight but honestly like |
23327s | I kind of get it from love storm because |
23329s | he's like well if I do anything else I'm |
23330s | not going to win same with the uh the |
23332s | relic of uh I keep wanting to say |
23334s | directions because I cast with TJ |
23336s | yesterday when he kept sorry I was |
23337s | calling it The Relic of directions but I |
23340s | think part of the mindset of okay |
23343s | there's one secret it's you know one in |
23346s | six or whatever |
23348s | if it's not counter spell I am so far |
23351s | ahead in this game and probably win if |
23353s | it is well I'm too oh up I'll just do it |
23356s | again right and then just carry on so I |
23358s | I I I do respect it it was just so odd |
23361s | and kind of funny to just see love storm |
23363s | get demolished by two count spells in a |
23365s | row and it was just shocking because |
23367s | normally players sit back and like |
23369s | consider things have different options |
23370s | but I also think it shows how important |
23374s | just that specific combo is to the deck |
23376s | that is the deck right you you get the |
23379s | Vault and then you play dimensions and |
23381s | then you go |
23383s | exactly yeah and you can see where he's |
23385s | coming from he tried to follow that |
23386s | standard game plan uh and it did not in |
23390s | that instance work out for him |
23392s | what can you say he gets to go with it |
23393s | again as you said |
23395s | um kind of reminded me of a very long |
23398s | argument I had with Dan Gaskin where he |
23400s | was saying that if you're too up you |
23402s | should make a bad Play Because if it |
23404s | doesn't work then you could just go |
23406s | again and I was like |
23408s | no make the right play that's how you |
23411s | win more often but yeah and like I said |
23414s | I wasn't saying that I know you were |
23416s | yeah I was explaining his reason to just |
23419s | say well okay it can stop but this is |
23422s | the best place I'm making it so yeah |
23423s | anyway I'm asking stupid not that bad |
23426s | yes |
23428s | it's one person |
23430s | I'm now one notch up yes six billion 959 |
23435s | million 999 999. |
23438s | yes Oh I thought you guys say to go |
23442s | effectively become smarter than every |
23444s | person in the world one by one one IQ |
23448s | point at a time |
23450s | uh Demon Hunter going up against now the |
23453s | big spell Mage from bunny Hopper and |
23455s | honestly in terms of Game Plan |
23458s | but Storm's just gonna try and do the |
23460s | same right he actually the hand was |
23462s | there he had to maybe not get cows |
23464s | spelled along the way but then he had |
23466s | the Vault he had the dimensions he had |
23468s | the setup he that's all you want to do |
23471s | with this Demon Hunter time and time |
23472s | again this time keeps hold to the |
23474s | phantasms to be able to just stack the |
23476s | uh the other relics just a little bit in |
23478s | well not a bad opening hand I don't |
23480s | think you're ever upset with sigil and |
23482s | not terrible for either player uh I do |
23484s | fully endorse bunny Hoppers play to toss |
23487s | away the a pelican there I think there's |
23491s | just too few cards that it really works |
23494s | well against on the Demon Hunter so we |
23496s | just want to find uh Belinda barbaric |
23499s | sorceress the PowerHouse plays or double |
23501s | watch post as well that's |
23504s | you know while not impossible at all for |
23506s | the Demon Hunter to clear up still very |
23507s | annoying yeah it's really good but I'm |
23510s | sure I'll buy these have been flashbacks |
23512s | because when he played algeru he opened |
23514s | with two watch posts energy who just |
23516s | answered them perfectly yup the first |
23519s | watch post gave him a uh predation |
23521s | so he just played a knocker and killed |
23523s | it oh a school teacher just getting |
23527s | reduced and I brought back right back up |
23529s | to four again like easy come easy go |
23534s | will you win some you lose some and |
23536s | sometimes just nothing changes in life |
23542s | like he's gonna go I know |
23546s | I respect this a lot actually because |
23548s | there's there's no answer right there's |
23550s | no card in the deck that actually kills |
23552s | this from this stage |
23555s | something |
23566s | all right first card in the hand he |
23568s | knows that's sigil because it's been |
23570s | played |
23571s | uh in the hand right now we're |
23574s | functionally just guessing here you |
23577s | could make a guess on there being no |
23578s | extinction because it would have just |
23579s | been played with the hero power to take |
23581s | out the uh you ever pick |
23585s | Relic |
23588s | of Dimensions sorry to just know whether |
23591s | it's there |
23593s | yeah I think that's if I had to guess |
23595s | that would be the play he made |
23597s | but it was essentially a complete guess |
23600s | there yeah yeah |
23606s | nice and done guaranteeing the kill on |
23609s | my look |
23616s | oh just a another slight problem right |
23619s | the watch post ping is |
23623s | fine The Reckless Apprentice is fine |
23627s | but nothing kills us that I know again |
23630s | it's just gonna sit there and yes it's |
23632s | love Storm's ability to play a lot of |
23633s | cards is reduced due to the watch post |
23635s | but wait I'm not great there for Buddy |
23639s | Harper If this satano just keeps causing |
23640s | havoc |
23641s | yeah I do like the play of apprentice |
23644s | here because it opens up a slightly |
23646s | higher chance of being able to kill it |
23647s | off with school teacher on the following |
23650s | turn if you get say frozen touch uh to |
23653s | just answer it straight away |
23656s | I wonder at this point whether it's just |
23658s | our draki warblade's hero power and then |
23661s | just it the uh 35 with this Latino |
23665s | very reasonable |
23666s | [Music] |
23669s | if someone's just happy playing with an |
23671s | expensive deck |
23674s | I'm Relic Demon Hunter is doing that |
23675s | anyway |
23677s | it'll all be cheaper later it's fine |
23683s | huh |
23688s | foreign |
23699s | do agree with your line of play just to |
23701s | get the the war blades down there |
23704s | were no top Decks that allowed him to |
23706s | clear their right with everything |
23707s | costing one more I don't believe so no |
23715s | all right none of those kills that I was |
23716s | talking about offered |
23724s | see it you see it |
23727s | no |
23728s | problem no even though the darkling will |
23731s | seek out a spell |
23734s | I love Tom's light no I've got a test it |
23741s | we'll get him next time love story what |
23743s | are the odds |
23744s | goes for Arcane in tight instead again |
23748s | if you if it's not a surprise for your |
23750s | opponent it's uh pretty easy to play |
23751s | around in Demon Hunter okay there we go |
23754s | station with school teacher cost one |
23756s | more the the barbaric sorceress is a |
23759s | huge bro |
23762s | all right is this not |
23766s | quite work right |
23768s | looking at hero power school teacher |
23771s | patient not necessarily in that order |
23775s | wait you could |
23777s | oh |
23781s | all right |
23786s | I just push Mass damage that actually |
23788s | worked out pretty well it really did |
23791s | I was just thinking like if school |
23793s | teacher got naggling that got Relic then |
23797s | that things could get really spicy there |
23799s | for lovestar but now I just went for a |
23802s | slightly more controllable play |
23804s | okay now we're talking for Bunny playing |
23807s | big spell Mage and he's found the cards |
23809s | you actually want to find it's a miracle |
23813s | I |
23815s | think we're just playing Belinda right I |
23817s | don't want to take any risks on barbaric |
23820s | sorceress if it misses you're in really |
23822s | big trouble |
23824s | foreign |
23827s | at this point if I'm bunny Hopper to |
23829s | where I feel like I need to play Rune |
23831s | next turn right I'd be very happy to |
23833s | just get down Drake fire amulet |
23839s | oh wow just insta tossing this hand |
23847s | in the hand is it good I think at this |
23849s | point after seeing Belinda a lot of |
23850s | storms just like I need the relics yeah |
23852s | yeah and he got the relics |
23854s | oh my God oh my goodness Chase dude it's |
23858s | an expensive hand but a potent one |
23861s | foreign |
23862s | yeah |
23871s | it sounds like hmm |
23873s | what is it clear |
23875s | gotta be worse oh damage face to bloop |
23878s | as well |
23879s | it's a Fano it's a lot of damage done |
23882s | because then it was just played on curve |
23884s | it's insane isn't it |
23888s | but now things are going to start to get |
23889s | a little bit more difficult Drake fire |
23891s | amulet Drake fire amulet a pirate if |
23894s | Buddy wants it for more dragons like |
23898s | this board is going to start getting a |
23900s | little bit uncontrollable here for love |
23902s | stop exactly yeah he would need to have |
23905s | been looking at like reduced Diamox |
23907s | reduced Jace playable next turn to |
23909s | really answer this because with no top |
23911s | of the idle in these lists anymore this |
23914s | is the exact type of board the Demon |
23915s | Hunter no longer deals with at all right |
23920s | especially as the you know the text on |
23923s | subpoena to attack the lowest Health |
23925s | minion every time he was really annoying |
23927s | these uh these welds are just going to |
23930s | come back again at the end of the turn |
23938s | I think just chaos strike |
23941s | even looking at Central flame honestly |
23943s | yeah |
23946s | pick me pick me |
23949s | I guess it saves you some health right |
23951s | if it blows up the welds they can't |
23953s | attack on that turn because it's at the |
23955s | start of your turn yeah it kills the |
23957s | watch post as well you know deals some |
23959s | damage to the inyxia like it it's not |
23962s | good but it's just I think the best |
23964s | overall option to actually give him a |
23966s | chance at dealing with this board at |
23968s | some point |
23971s | and while meltronics can be uh very |
23975s | vexing at times |
23977s | uh Grace H parrot here is just kind of |
23979s | perfectly placed straight away with the |
23981s | welps and get yourself a couple more big |
23983s | old dragons |
23998s | okay |
24002s | oh no spells have been played yeah it's |
24005s | on the left |
24006s | press it you went in by a mile but press |
24009s | it |
24011s | I might yeah probably yeah I don't think |
24014s | I want to risk uh Mass polymorph |
24020s | that one well |
24023s | it didn't work out great |
24032s | I think this is going to work out too |
24034s | great either |
24036s | I don't think so either |
24041s | weird that it shows it twice it always |
24043s | gets me yeah |
24048s | okay an announcement of an announcement |
24050s | isn't it |
24053s | Timex comes down |
24055s | warning yeah I'm about to summon five |
24058s | fives yeah morning relic of Extinction |
24062s | this is relic of Extinction you just |
24066s | said that |
24067s | oh buddy Hopper takes another game |
24071s | against love storm and suddenly what |
24073s | looked like it could have been a |
24075s | disastrous run honestly from burning up |
24077s | it I think much like Fury Hunter who are |
24081s | the players you'd pick to at least make |
24083s | it to the final day of uh you know this |
24086s | tournament and looked like he was going |
24087s | to get knocked out by a love storm but |
24089s | now it's all coming down to the last |
24090s | game and this Relic Demon Hunter just |
24093s | not quite getting the job done the |
24095s | disruption from bunny Hopper I think was |
24097s | just enough there you can see that |
24100s | lovestone was so close to really uh you |
24102s | know getting everything done he had |
24104s | these eye marks he had the relics start |
24106s | starting to cycle through but it was |
24108s | just a bit too late due to those watch |
24110s | posts and due to you know having to |
24112s | actually deal with the board put in |
24113s | front of him so Bunny Hop and now in the |
24115s | final spot where I would say it's the |
24117s | two-week decks against each other the |
24119s | shaman versus The Demon Hunter |
24122s | and it shows again the the real |
24124s | difference of The Relic Demon Hunter vs |
24126s | aggro Demon Hunter because if you leave |
24129s | Athena on board for three turns versus |
24131s | an aggro Demon Hunter you can have a |
24133s | hundred Health let alone you are dead |
24135s | you are mega mega Dead uh but Against |
24138s | The Relic Demon Hunter there wasn't |
24140s | enough fuel uh to keep that attacking |
24141s | phase turn after turn which uh again is |
24144s | another reason my players seem to be |
24146s | liking the aggro Demon Hunter and why I |
24148s | can understand uh their reasoning for |
24150s | bringing it uh but as you say moving on |
24152s | to the final match-up of the uh the |
24155s | series here with Demon Hunter having |
24157s | lost two in a row the potential third |
24159s | coming up against the shaman it's one of |
24162s | the Decks that I've want to say Shaman |
24165s | should be in a reasonable spot against |
24167s | right obviously the stall mechanisms uh |
24170s | have fallen by the wayside with the loss |
24174s | of the snowfall Guardian but I think in |
24177s | general unless you're off to a very very |
24179s | potent mid game with all the relics |
24181s | coming one after the other as the Demon |
24183s | Hunter the shaman should have the |
24185s | removal tools they need to keep up |
24186s | against you very easily yeah I would |
24188s | agree with you I think if lovestorm does |
24191s | the curve right Gets A Relic on early |
24193s | gets the Vault live and then goes with |
24196s | Dimensions obviously as with any |
24198s | opponent that could be a problem but |
24201s | other than exactly that happening I do |
24203s | think bunny Hoppers list is more than |
24205s | capable of getting the job done here so |
24207s | let's see how it goes relic of phantasms |
24209s | available there for love sum in the |
24211s | opening hands is only keep for the |
24213s | Mulligan bunny |
24214s | just taking his time on this one he |
24217s | knows how important it is that he wins |
24219s | this game |
24221s | and the thing with it with this match up |
24223s | as well I feel like you're Mulligan or |
24225s | Bunny's Mulligan in this situation is |
24227s | so varied because right you've actually |
24231s | got a ton of options in the early game |
24232s | and your opponent really doesn't right |
24234s | like you know your opponent just wants |
24236s | to do this One Singular thing yeah and |
24238s | this Mulligan for example this hand is |
24241s | fine you could argue easily about muck |
24243s | pools but the hand's fine but is fine |
24246s | what bunny Hopper wants he actually |
24248s | keeps lock pulls and throws away the |
24250s | school teacher okay yeah it's kind of |
24252s | half of a lot of combos right now where |
24256s | he's got the muck pool but no null he's |
24259s | got the clownfish but no murloc school |
24261s | teacher but no bran uh none of the real |
24264s | powerhouse plays available right out the |
24266s | gate but I do still think it's worth |
24268s | holding on to the real power Spike |
24271s | potential options of clownfish and muck |
24273s | pool in particular because hey as soon |
24275s | as you top deck uh Bran or boner for the |
24278s | clownfish or null for the month you're |
24282s | absolutely laughing like this is huge |
24285s | amounts of pressure coming up yeah |
24287s | because four love storm to deal with you |
24290s | know the good outcome of evolving a null |
24293s | let's say |
24294s | um |
24294s | that's just so many cards and so many |
24297s | specific cards right to kill just one |
24299s | big minion uh from this Demon Hunter |
24301s | that could be a bit of a problem here |
24303s | and Bunny would definitely be looking |
24305s | for schooling soon to help out with that |
24308s | now |
24310s | um in the meantime just gonna spend the |
24312s | Mana equipping the war blades I like it |
24315s | there's no weapon destruction but he's |
24316s | deck right |
24318s | I don't believe so no |
24322s | I hate that we have to look again now |
24324s | I've gotten so used to never checking |
24325s | for tech cards because they just didn't |
24326s | exist for that well look it's love storm |
24328s | that's running a uh is it the Viper in |
24330s | his Mage I think yeah yeah yeah |
24340s | but definitely not a bad stop for either |
24343s | player here uh predation yeah premium |
24347s | spell |
24353s | it's the undeniably the Calm before the |
24355s | love storm right now has |
24358s | Bonnie Hopper placed in an awkward spot |
24360s | here admittedly with the poison on board |
24362s | that's probably the one thing stopping |
24364s | him from just ripping the null right |
24365s | away |
24369s | yeah it's |
24371s | pretty tricky does he have to just like |
24374s | hero power pass then go like |
24377s | all |
24378s | look pools and then maybe like free the |
24382s | one three that this is actually very |
24384s | awkward she's gonna play the clown fish |
24386s | and just try and get a swing out the |
24388s | weapon I guess yeah if he'd just passed |
24391s | or hero powered or maybe played the |
24392s | freeze to cycle a card he could have |
24395s | gone I think null coin primordial wave |
24398s | oh okay yeah that's a good shower yeah I |
24401s | didn't think about it in order to reduce |
24403s | the cost of the the score PID but the |
24405s | problem is of course then that you are |
24407s | using primordial wave which is a |
24409s | fantastic card in this matchup uh once |
24411s | they start developing those uh premium |
24413s | mid-sized boards |
24415s | but this must be terrifying now for |
24417s | bunny relic of all down the scope it's |
24420s | still there |
24421s | relics have been procked once like this |
24424s | is and you're going into turn five or |
24426s | your opponent's going to turn five fight |
24428s | we could see that there's no dimensions |
24431s | and there for love storm but Bonnie does |
24434s | not know that so he has to be prepared |
24438s | again he could still do the if he's |
24441s | really desperate go null freeze coin |
24443s | muck pools yeah and hope that you know |
24447s | he either draws an answer gets answered |
24449s | from school teacher next turn maybe he |
24451s | just hits face and does the um the |
24454s | devolve next turn as well you know that |
24456s | there are options but other than that |
24459s | if he plays school teacher |
24461s | you know there's a high chance that it |
24463s | just dies I think the Scorpion needs |
24466s | something from bunny Hopper to actually |
24468s | kill it and not just assuming love storm |
24470s | will trade it away agreed yeah my my |
24473s | head was definitely more in line with |
24474s | what Bonnie was looking at with gorlock |
24476s | ravager on this turn because you can |
24477s | actually use the location on the ravager |
24480s | okay yourself a sixth Rock which is |
24482s | still most of the time a good amount of |
24484s | tempo yeah it doesn't so much work out |
24486s | here and it can bait quote unquote this |
24490s | corporate into trading into your six |
24492s | drop and then pave the way for your 10 |
24494s | drop to come to term after |
24497s | foreign |
24501s | probably at least a mental sigh of |
24504s | relief from bunny that that wasn't |
24505s | dimensions |
24507s | oh you really don't want to play fell |
24509s | barrage there and keep the the scorpion |
24511s | alive |
24514s | wait did he just |
24516s | not attack |
24519s | okay |
24521s | wait what do you mean not attack |
24524s | well he played chaos straight but then |
24526s | didn't swing phase so I guess he's oh |
24528s | right yeah yeah sorry yeah I thought you |
24530s | meant with the Scorpion I was like well |
24531s | the scope is dead oh no sorry I was like |
24533s | what but yeah you are completely right |
24536s | I was even looking at what a school |
24538s | teacher turned looked like there because |
24539s | he has the predation plus weapon swing |
24542s | yeah |
24543s | I know it's a lot less power of course |
24545s | than this |
24547s | I don't know I just think your |
24548s | opponent's demonstrated there by |
24549s | offering up a six drop as a lamb to the |
24551s | slaughter that they don't have a very |
24554s | good answer to your scorpion right now |
24565s | just that one relic of Dimensions away |
24567s | from making very very good things |
24569s | happening |
24570s | okay I'm gonna assume that was a chaos |
24572s | strike pick even though I didn't quite |
24573s | catch it I think it was |
24581s | all right here we go he's waited a long |
24583s | time considering what you'd usually be |
24585s | looking at with the null to make this |
24586s | pop-off happen but this has to be the 10 |
24588s | drop turn |
24590s | I think there's a big option here to |
24592s | just play spinly as well and just look |
24594s | for the glug |
24596s | you know what happens when Glock hits |
24597s | the board |
24599s | you win the game of hearthstone that |
24600s | you're playing |
24604s | old Legion to me okay okay uh you will |
24610s | take that right it's absolutely yeah the |
24612s | clock I was like oh |
24616s | I mean kind of clap clap kind of like |
24619s | that's what this deck does it's kind of |
24621s | surprising hasn't happened in some form |
24622s | or another already I mean |
24624s | I've had schooling right like this this |
24627s | happened a long time ago in this game |
24630s | and that scorpid would not have been |
24632s | anywhere near the threat it actually was |
24634s | exactly yeah |
24636s | and this is part of the problem I have |
24639s | with love storms plays if you still have |
24642s | the scorpid here you know he could trade |
24644s | a scorpion into the one half of this uh |
24647s | 80 either the first half or the death |
24649s | rattle which would have made it an awful |
24651s | lot easier to clear |
24657s | a courtress for next turn if he needs to |
24659s | buy some time can load up the Relic |
24662s | Vault number two now if he wants |
24664s | load up the Jace as well for turn eight |
24667s | we've seen a few cards played it's kind |
24669s | of difficult to keep track because |
24670s | obviously the chaos strike is just a |
24673s | honestly it's not the nogling but one of |
24675s | them is the nuggling yeah so some amount |
24677s | of fellow spells have been played yeah |
24678s | and you might be able to get at least a |
24679s | partial board clear |
24684s | yeah there was a chaos strike |
24687s | um there was also definitely a foul |
24688s | barrage right when it was used against |
24689s | the first stag |
24697s | okay I do think Eve whichever way love |
24699s | song wants to do this I think just |
24702s | dumping all of the playable cards right |
24704s | now just feels correct |
24706s | where he wants to aim things we can |
24708s | discuss but just load everything up if |
24711s | you don't end up playing Chase fine |
24714s | but you still have the option right to |
24716s | play like the biggest JS possible |
24720s | okay love said you know what |
24724s | we don't feel the freeze everything |
24726s | fired |
24730s | kill the freeze push Max damage does |
24732s | have kurchased next turn I imagine at |
24734s | least initially he may look at courtress |
24737s | with hero Powers then into Jace with |
24739s | aeropower |
24742s | or and with two cards in hand coming in |
24745s | to turn a mutinous has got to be looking |
24747s | mighty tempting here for Bonnie Hopper |
24749s | zymox Chase boom huge outcomes here and |
24753s | he does get to gobble up the Jace |
24756s | the last cards that loveston would want |
24758s | to see go and potentially one of the |
24760s | last cards he will see go in any form as |
24763s | this is just looking harder and harder |
24766s | for him to square up |
24772s | now the big question here Derek is does |
24774s | this eight go face because my instincts |
24777s | are saying yes but look at the hand size |
24780s | right love songs got one card which |
24782s | obviously if that one card is Dimensions |
24784s | this gets scary with Relic vaults but if |
24787s | it's not like does bunny Hopper just |
24790s | completely take control he can just |
24791s | dealt our next turn to literally see |
24794s | what the next cards would be right so |
24797s | okay he's gonna clear one eight to the |
24800s | face I do like this even though it it's |
24802s | got the tiniest element of risk to it |
24806s | yeah I agree I think now that you've |
24807s | seen chase you can play much more |
24809s | aggressive yeah because there's so much |
24811s | less chance of the lethal damage coming |
24815s | through uh love storm essentially forced |
24818s | her into making |
24819s | the attack first because the break point |
24821s | on four attack instead of three is just |
24824s | so important here to be able to clear |
24827s | off |
24827s | what one half of the stoneborne general |
24830s | and at least stopped the freeze uh on |
24833s | the face this time yeah yeah the freeze |
24835s | is the important one right I mean okay |
24837s | an eighth attack minion hit you in the |
24840s | face is also quite important |
24842s | I mean without freeze I think I don't |
24844s | know like he's getting no damage through |
24846s | if he can't swing right |
24848s | yeah I guess but you know then you look |
24850s | at it in another way and it's you take |
24852s | three damage off the board or you take |
24853s | 11 damage off the board which it's a |
24857s | very diff it's a real play just finally |
24860s | into dimensions |
24862s | honestly it might have been I'm not even |
24864s | really joking it sounds like I have but |
24866s | I'm honestly not because is this winning |
24868s | is this instead just what draw |
24871s | Dimensions next to |
24872s | yeah it doesn't feel like winning does |
24874s | it |
24875s | as uh love storm knows I think what was |
24877s | he taking off his headset there which uh |
24880s | back in the day would have been a uh an |
24882s | end to the series but |
24884s | oh |
24887s | Khan here it's tempting some taunts in |
24891s | the way heal a little bit or push damage |
24894s | like whatever |
24898s | there's just so many different ways we |
24900s | could take this like a parrot to get |
24903s | down another mutinous Battle Cry |
24906s | would probably win you the game this |
24908s | will probably win you the game with |
24909s | double parrot in hand next turn as well |
24912s | yeah I think I like this because it |
24914s | covers the most bases in my book right |
24916s | it you go up to 26 at minimum he could |
24920s | have chosen to heal as well gets to he |
24922s | gets the taunts he's dealing the damage |
24923s | now it's so close to saying that lethal |
24925s | that I mean what does this from lovestar |
24927s | have to be exactly Dimensions from |
24929s | Finley even Bunny's taking the old |
24931s | headset off oh yeah |
24935s | anybody that's not good enough to me |
24937s | Direct |
24938s | that's not indeed Abyssal depth trolls |
24941s | you two cards but those are not gonna |
24943s | regain winning cards are they |
24945s | oh sorry at all and what |
24950s | a series |
24952s | wait that was a uh one for the ages |
24956s | right there I'll tell you now bunny |
24958s | Hopper has had a emotional roller |
24962s | coaster of a day uh not only did he he |
24966s | won his first match versus lovestar |
24968s | fantastic that's exactly when you do |
24970s | rock up first thing in the morning |
24971s | quickly win three three one and it could |
24974s | be like great this will take no time |
24975s | then got demolished in his in his next |
24979s | match 3-0 from aziru and then this |
24983s | series Derek it looked like love storm |
24985s | was just gonna wrote you know just roll |
24988s | through the match 3-0 and just take |
24990s | bunny Hopper out of the tournament put |
24992s | bunny Hopper fought back and just |
24994s | scraped the three to Victory and he does |
24998s | move on to tomorrow and there Percy of |
25000s | course super happy to see bunny Hopper |
25001s | do well but what a series that was it |
25005s | was emotional just for me Derek never |
25006s | mind the players it was indeed a big |
25009s | turnaround there for for Dr Pelzer to be |
25011s | taking the win and going through to the |
25013s | quarterfinals I thought he was playing |
25015s | some fantastic Hearthstone I know he's |
25017s | been feeling the uh |
25019s | uh the stress a little bit uh I can tell |
25022s | already from some messages I'm getting |
25024s | from it that he's not happy with his |
25025s | standard of play uh over the course of |
25028s | that series uh but I I hope he can still |
25030s | hold his head high because you know we |
25032s | we've all been feeling the weird time |
25034s | zones I feel like everyone maybe the |
25036s | APAC players have been getting away with |
25037s | it the most uh but uh I think yeah |
25041s | yeah I mean as always I'm in the best |
25044s | headspace but I I hope he's proud of |
25046s | himself at the end of it yeah and as |
25047s | always in this position like I'm sure |
25049s | you know these players you know |
25051s | definitely go back and go oh I didn't |
25053s | play as well as I could of or oh this |
25055s | happened or this shouldn't have happened |
25056s | but the end of the day he did his job |
25058s | he's through to tomorrow done like worry |
25060s | about tomorrow now that's all you're |
25062s | going to focus on because what happened |
25063s | today uh no longer matters because it's |
25065s | already happened so there it is uh final |
25067s | shout out of course to love storm uh as |
25070s | uh that was a tough loss for him I know |
25072s | TJ will be maybe shedding a tear or two |
25074s | uh but yeah strong and they're pretty |
25077s | crazy series overall and that is going |
25079s | to be Group C done we've got one more |
25082s | group left to see who's gonna make it |
25084s | out and if anything they're like this is |
25086s | the one of the spicy groups mainly |
25088s | because we don't have I would say any |
25091s | clear you know rock favorites that you |
25094s | would actually you know say okay this |
25096s | player these two players are definitely |
25097s | going to make it out of the group this |
25099s | one definitely feels a lot more for |
25100s | grabs so there's a lot in the line |
25102s | coming up yeah I agree completely uh I |
25105s | think that uh you know we could argue |
25108s | that spring maybe is the most likely to |
25110s | be doing well in this tournament he's |
25111s | doing very very well in the competitive |
25113s | scene in China uh which I uh I'm very |
25116s | excited to see him do a little bit more |
25117s | outside of that scene and break out into |
25119s | the the global Hearthstone Community uh |
25121s | a little bit more and we get to see some |
25123s | of his play but like you say this is the |
25126s | not the star-studded group this is |
25128s | players brawling it out uh down at the |
25131s | bottom in order to try and get some |
25133s | notoriety for themselves and that's |
25135s | exactly the kind of hearthstone I love |
25136s | to watch well we're going to go to a |
25138s | quick break while we set it up so don't |
25140s | go anywhere we've got Group D coming |
25141s | right up |
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25339s | C is in the books but that is not the |
25343s | end of today by any stretch of the |
25345s | imagination group number D is still to |
25348s | come and we're going to open it up right |
25350s | now so plenty more Hearthstone action |
25352s | for those of you who've been with us all |
25353s | day thanks for hanging around and good |
25355s | luck with hanging around with the rest |
25357s | of it it's going to be a quite a long |
25358s | afternoon for everybody subtle what can |
25361s | we expect from this match this group |
25363s | what do you think of what you've seen |
25364s | just just talk basically |
25366s | hey you poke with stick say things uh |
25370s | yes yes I shall say things uh yeah that |
25373s | that group did kind of Pass Me By I was |
25375s | actually very much you know with all you |
25376s | fine people at home as mostly a |
25378s | spectator for that group I cast the |
25379s | opening Series and then got to sit back |
25381s | and watch for the rest of it I thought |
25382s | it was a very interesting group very |
25385s | juxtaposed to what we saw yesterday |
25386s | where a lot of the groups a lot of the |
25388s | matches were blowouts that was much more |
25390s | grindy closer games different slower |
25393s | matchups |
25394s | um and I think we're going to see a bit |
25395s | of a mix of that this time around in |
25397s | this group uh particularly in this |
25400s | series that we're going to watch because |
25402s | for example there's decks as far ranging |
25404s | as Jayla Paladin to aggro Druid being |
25407s | featured in this series so certainly the |
25409s | opportunity for some varying speeds |
25411s | varying tempos varying lengths of |
25413s | match-ups as we shall see and it is |
25416s | between spring and xmg who are two |
25421s | players who I'm sure are delighted to be |
25423s | here trying to carry on the prestigious |
25426s | records of their region uh was of course |
25428s | rooting for uh my friend and fellow |
25431s | European bunny Hopper to make it out of |
25432s | that group in the end it did make it but |
25434s | still I think we are seeing a fairly |
25437s | diverse group of success in terms of |
25440s | regions so far coming out of the groups |
25442s | uh in these championships asterisk |
25444s | Americas but I don't even know how long |
25446s | you have to really asterisk that for |
25447s | anymore it's almost taken as a given at |
25449s | this point isn't it even here's a |
25452s | question even now GM's over are you |
25453s | still doing the I'm American thing or I |
25456s | mean there's still a player coming up |
25457s | with us at the start of his name so |
25458s | we're on him later |
25461s | oh how the mighty have fallen is that |
25464s | what they have to cling to now oh dear |
25466s | what did we have to cling to a part of a |
25467s | Monsanto anyway don't answer that it's a |
25470s | family-friendly show but |
25472s | uh we have got to play with us to start |
25474s | their name later we got to claim that as |
25476s | an American player for the time being |
25478s | I'm sure TJ will get on the case and |
25480s | find out if there we can possibly lay |
25482s | claim to anybody maybe somebody has you |
25484s | know a Canadian grandparents I don't |
25487s | know but |
25489s | I don't know if he really fell we |
25490s | thought it were never really there as |
25492s | long as I've been casting for America's |
25493s | anyway let's have a look at the players |
25495s | in hand though spring winner of a major |
25498s | in China a decent record in Masters |
25501s | tours and especially recently with top |
25503s | four at um Law and Order and top 16 uh |
25506s | this year which are two of the last |
25508s | three events very much a rising star as |
25511s | benage has put it of the Chinese scene |
25514s | and has brought one of the more unusual |
25517s | lineups with a paladin making its way |
25519s | into the lineup yeah I believe benage |
25522s | who is our Chinese correspondent if you |
25524s | weren't aware of who that is it's a name |
25526s | you'll hear is referenced a lot because |
25527s | he does a lot of great work in filling |
25529s | his in on the the players from the China |
25530s | region that we don't get as much |
25531s | exposure to as we do all of the other |
25534s | players described him as the rising star |
25536s | of last year so you know here by Merit I |
25540s | am sure as all of these players are a |
25542s | gold Open winner as well as you can see |
25544s | on the stat sheet there which is no mean |
25546s | feat those are brutal tournaments in the |
25549s | China scene so if you're able to take |
25551s | one of those down you are some |
25553s | Hearthstone player indeed and you can |
25555s | see specifically the Masters Tour record |
25557s | is is what's going to get you to this |
25559s | position top four in a top 16 and an |
25561s | overall positive record uh in the master |
25563s | scene circuit a good news for him but |
25567s | the Jailer Paladin yes we both mentioned |
25569s | it at this point not a deck that we have |
25571s | seen so far and look at that just like |
25574s | magic it's gonna inch its way into the |
25576s | series super super interesting there you |
25579s | can see highlighted in the key cards |
25581s | that is kind of the core package of the |
25583s | deck Order in the Court stack your deck |
25585s | in an order that you know and then try |
25587s | and set up that reliable Jailer combo |
25590s | that is you can rely on it coming out of |
25592s | your deck in certain orders lots of |
25594s | other little tricks and tidbits thrown |
25596s | in there as well but that is generally |
25598s | the core of the deck and it allows you |
25599s | to play an incredibly low curve in the |
25603s | rest of the deck because you have that |
25605s | reliable consistency of being able to |
25606s | tutor that spell play that spell and |
25608s | then you know you're drawing your late |
25610s | game so what's some sometimes overlooked |
25612s | with Paladin is that it's a much better |
25614s | deck in the early game than you might |
25615s | expect because they can stack the rest |
25617s | of the deck with those early gameplays |
25619s | yeah and it needs to be right if you're |
25621s | stacking stacking your deck in your hand |
25623s | with 10 drops you actually got to get |
25626s | there |
25626s | um it's got no Mana cheat as opposed to |
25628s | most other decks so you know not only is |
25631s | it decent in an early game but it has to |
25632s | be decent |
25634s | um just we'll go back to something you |
25635s | said about spring as well in that intro |
25637s | about being here on Merit yes they are |
25638s | all here on Merit the the Chinese |
25640s | players but spring was not a member of a |
25643s | team so did not have the advantage in |
25644s | being picked so he had to sort of |
25646s | qualify as of right rather than be team |
25649s | selected to get into these events and |
25651s | has managed to stay around on the tour |
25653s | that way around just want to clarify |
25655s | that as well one of the very few players |
25657s | who has managed to do it that way |
25659s | yeah for sure and it's a it's a big |
25660s | difference and it's an uphill struggle |
25662s | as well you know a lot of the |
25663s | competitions in China are Team league |
25664s | based a lot of the invites do go out to |
25666s | teams if certain seedings and so on but |
25669s | yes you can see that with the the tag in |
25671s | front of xmg here on the other side and |
25674s | you can see that is a lot of positive |
25676s | records overall nearly 60 in Masters |
25679s | towards over 55 in uh Team GTC uh which |
25683s | is a stacked event featuring not just |
25686s | Chinese players but players from around |
25688s | the world who are affiliated with |
25690s | certain teams as Lorinda was just |
25692s | mentioning and clue is in the name but |
25694s | this is a player I would say with a bit |
25695s | bit more of a long-term pedigree in the |
25698s | China scene than spring who is being |
25700s | described as a rising star and has a |
25703s | significantly more aggressive lineup |
25705s | than the opponent as well I believe this |
25708s | is also the debut of aggro Druid in the |
25710s | tournament if you want to talk about |
25711s | deck debuts unfortunately the perfect |
25713s | Synergy did not happen this time and |
25715s | aggro drill did not just appear on the |
25717s | screen as soon as I was about to talk |
25718s | about it so we're getting into that a |
25719s | little bit later as he's going to lead |
25721s | out with the miracle Rogue the draca |
25723s | Rogue as it's being called here |
25725s | incredibly explosive deck feast or |
25728s | famine in some regards in terms of how |
25730s | your cards line up but the very best |
25731s | players of the deck do just seem to find |
25733s | ways of turning hands that are a massive |
25735s | collection of nothing into something |
25737s | impactful by dragging out those turns by |
25740s | just playing for a little bit of tempo |
25741s | here and there and I do think that's the |
25743s | trickiest part of the deck right as hard |
25745s | mechanically as some of the miracle |
25748s | turns are I think the hard part to learn |
25750s | with the deck is that you actually do |
25752s | have to spend your mana on the other |
25754s | turns you can't just play Nothing Play |
25756s | Nothing Play Nothing play everything |
25758s | because four turns of playing Nothing's |
25760s | Gonna Get You Killed in this meta game |
25761s | so you do have to find some way of |
25763s | getting some Tempo out on the board |
25764s | before you actually set up those huge |
25767s | Miracle turns but those can be intense |
25770s | with while poor Knowles with |
25771s | stenographers with Shadow steps |
25773s | preparations everything that goes along |
25775s | you can have enormous minions coming |
25777s | from the location and of course red |
25779s | ridiculous weapons coming from Draco and |
25781s | I'm going to say something here that's |
25783s | going to oh you're used to it you cast |
25784s | with Raven anyway |
25786s | um this is kind of the version of the |
25789s | deck I did not expect to see because |
25791s | this is the version that everyone's |
25793s | played for a long time but now there's |
25795s | mailbox versions which seem a little bit |
25797s | more quick if you want to do this and if |
25799s | you want to do other things there are |
25800s | other decks so I'm actually quite |
25802s | surprised I don't think this goes at the |
25804s | tempo of a deck that you'd expect for a |
25806s | rogue that you would want to bring to a |
25807s | tournament I think if you want to bring |
25808s | this exact deck throwing in those |
25810s | mailbox dances actually makes this deck |
25812s | better and if you want to bring this |
25815s | exact verse I think you can just bring |
25816s | better decks than this personally |
25819s | yeah and it's one of those things |
25820s | obviously we are casting an old trying |
25822s | to match up here and it's it's one of |
25823s | those things where they do not have |
25825s | minor disagreements sometimes about |
25826s | decks in the metagame it used to be a |
25829s | lot more split if you rewind 2014 2015 |
25832s | 2016 |
25833s | China players used to show up to Global |
25835s | events with like entirely different |
25837s | archetypes that just aren't played in |
25839s | the western scene in general now it's |
25842s | more so like different versions of deck |
25844s | like is it pure and poor look or cursing |
25846s | poor look do you play this version of |
25847s | Rogue or that version of Rogue both |
25849s | around sort of the Draco location |
25851s | package but there do still seem to be |
25853s | differences in consensus between those |
25856s | two regions because they are to an |
25859s | extent still separated I think this year |
25861s | has been awesome because the China |
25863s | players have got to come over and show |
25864s | how good they are against the rest of |
25866s | the world and do that consistently and |
25867s | it's a lot more integrated but those |
25870s | separate china-only events do happen and |
25872s | they do tend to build up a little bit of |
25874s | their own competitive meta game |
25876s | interesting you say that as well the |
25878s | first time I became aware of spring was |
25879s | this year because he's played six |
25881s | Masters Tour and they were all this year |
25883s | um but after his first good result I |
25885s | bumped into him on ladder and added him |
25887s | and said hey are you the spring from |
25888s | China big fan blah blah blah and he |
25890s | instantly signed up basically to get |
25892s | onto Europe ladder as soon as he had a |
25893s | good result to sort of not just a scout |
25896s | but to play against different players |
25897s | and that just wasn't a thing in the era |
25899s | you were talking about yep I remember |
25902s | when you know for example like jail T |
25903s | came over to Twitter and started |
25905s | tweeting in English a little bit like |
25906s | that was a big deal you just didn't |
25907s | really get to to see that kind of input |
25909s | from some of the Chinese players quite |
25911s | often but here we are we have skipped |
25913s | several turns of this already not a |
25915s | great deal has happened the Rogue has |
25916s | come out of the stealthy disguise uh |
25920s | interesting turn from spring on the |
25922s | previous as we were just wrapping things |
25923s | up had the option of coin banana man |
25926s | into banana man turned it down chose to |
25927s | go a little bit more slowly of course |
25929s | that coin can be ludicrously valuable in |
25932s | this deck when you can you know |
25934s | guarantee you are starting to draw 10 |
25935s | drops and eight drops very early on |
25937s | depending on how your curve can go but |
25939s | actually instead was clearly had eyes |
25941s | for the coin on this turn for blade |
25943s | Master okani which is not a curve I was |
25947s | particularly expecting |
25948s | yeah I'm really irritating for xmg |
25951s | definitely not expecting that myself |
25952s | either obviously |
25954s | um |
25955s | yeah just making this turn awkward as it |
25956s | happens |
25957s | no more than a speed bump really this |
25960s | time around |
25961s | um he had the perfect sort of answer to |
25963s | it but could have been |
25965s | and lining up pretty nicely here for xmg |
25969s | as well uh coin sorry a shadow step or a |
25972s | prep away from a real good time here |
25975s | having hit the really juicy shrouds both |
25978s | Knolls now available one on the board |
25980s | one in hand and that stenographer is |
25982s | going to plummet down in cost very very |
25985s | quickly with this hand creating a very |
25988s | powerful weapon from the Draco pretty |
25990s | quickly |
25991s | you're gonna feel very it's gonna need |
25993s | that weapon right because the Paladin |
25995s | has the equality it'll find ways to |
25997s | remove things with the equality shortly |
25999s | as well so you know you can Edwin your |
26001s | way around and you can you can play as |
26003s | many zero Mana five fives and four |
26005s | fours and three threes as you want it |
26007s | doesn't matter if they all get blown up |
26009s | so you're really gonna have to do a lot |
26010s | of work with that weapon before carrier |
26012s | comes down as well |
26015s | so immediate Instinct you can just |
26017s | location combo the gun fishing round |
26020s | things out with the Maestra if needs B |
26022s | uh bone Spike obviously a premium card |
26025s | for your Miracle turn when it happens |
26027s | the problem with that of course is you |
26029s | are then rolling into your opponent's |
26031s | theater turn it's a little bit scary |
26033s | because you're keeping all of these key |
26035s | pieces in your hand at that point |
26038s | I mean can you play around everything oh |
26041s | you what I mean so there was a way to it |
26043s | like if you want to |
26045s | give respect to theater there you could |
26047s | have done a much smaller and less |
26049s | impressive pop-off turn that turned |
26051s | right which wasn't very good I totally |
26053s | agree that it was not worth the risk um |
26055s | Paladin is also a deck that you know |
26057s | sometimes you get very clear signs that |
26059s | certain cards are in hand because of the |
26061s | deck stacking mechanic that they do have |
26062s | and uh xmg really doesn't have too much |
26065s | of that information right now yeah he |
26067s | just saw a coin into a four of those so |
26071s | expecting theater might be awkward |
26074s | and here it comes we haven't seen many |
26076s | theaters in this tournament this might |
26077s | be anything there's the reaction is |
26080s | where you can see how much it means it's |
26082s | the premium as well what is that three |
26085s | out of seven to hit the premium on the |
26087s | tracker and absolutely Nails it |
26090s | yeah so not only did he like not want to |
26092s | see the theater obviously but he played |
26094s | sensibly keeping a big hand so he |
26096s | wouldn't get hit but obviously |
26099s | super difficult now not much else to say |
26101s | other than that |
26105s | so my plan here would be make a huge |
26108s | board and hope they don't have the other |
26110s | good stuff in their deck and hope for |
26111s | the best here that's the right plan but |
26114s | that's how I'd go about if I'm here prep |
26116s | drawer is huge these are some very kind |
26119s | cards coming off the top from this Edwin |
26121s | this is the kind of thing xmg was gonna |
26123s | need to get back into this |
26125s | oh hello |
26128s | sonographer is now the Edwin card here |
26131s | on this occasion as well so we can play |
26133s | bone Spike discount by one and then get |
26135s | the discount by two to be able to get |
26137s | the stenographer to come out for zero |
26139s | sure throw the other bonus bike in while |
26141s | you're at it no problem |
26144s | Trust |
26146s | yeah and spin just needs a city tax off |
26150s | the top |
26151s | hey man |
26153s | and Shadow step as well takes the Edwin |
26156s | back to board 10-10 off board for that |
26159s | retained value on the following turn |
26161s | right knows that this board is going to |
26163s | be big and aggressive enough anyway |
26164s | because he still has second stenographer |
26166s | null and location click here to go uh |
26170s | Paladin if it's going to clear is going |
26171s | to clear on mass with a quality in an |
26173s | AOE so I can't believe I'm saying this I |
26176s | can count the amount of times I've seen |
26178s | Shadow steps on edwins that are bigger |
26179s | than eight eight that I've liked on one |
26181s | hand |
26182s | I do like that one |
26185s | heard it here first subtle likes this |
26188s | one and I think you're right I like well |
26190s | why would you want two 13 13s on the |
26191s | board apart from the obvious like well I |
26194s | mean if you want to give the counter |
26195s | argument which I think is valid and we |
26196s | can sit and talk about it is because it |
26198s | sets up lethal if they don't have it you |
26201s | know very very cleanly |
26202s | it only gives them one extra turn like |
26204s | this this is lethal in two turns it's |
26207s | Bam Bam if they haven't got it and if |
26209s | they have got it you lose the game on |
26210s | the spot |
26211s | set up another lethal you can just set |
26214s | up the exact same board next turn anyway |
26215s | so yeah it's fine yes but two turns is |
26218s | twice as long as one turn I don't know |
26220s | if you were aware of that but it is |
26221s | quite much quite a few turns longer |
26225s | really in reality it's twice twice as |
26226s | many uh-huh yeah absolutely can't argue |
26229s | with that |
26230s | just played Devil's Advocate now for the |
26232s | fun of it well that's what me and TJ do |
26234s | with each other the whole time so one of |
26236s | us says something the other one says |
26237s | they disagree and then the other will |
26238s | say they disagree with themselves just |
26240s | to make it and then it's confusing I |
26243s | think if you wanted to make a better |
26245s | argument in in favor of the player I |
26249s | think this was the one it's the with the |
26251s | additional door of Shadows in hand with |
26254s | the tooth of nefarian in hand it's |
26256s | lethal anyway exactly xmg I had multiple |
26258s | outs to be able to find the lethal off |
26261s | that point had already played on the |
26262s | door of Shadows drawn other spells out |
26264s | of the deck lots of other outs had gone |
26265s | so he still had he had lethal outs from |
26268s | hand while playing around the bigger |
26270s | quality blowout from the opponent so I'm |
26272s | okay with it |
26273s | and that was a massive win because |
26277s | the reductive way to sum up this match |
26280s | at the start was Spring's Druid needs to |
26282s | win a game and the other two decks will |
26283s | get a win that's the very reductive way |
26286s | to do it which I love to do because it |
26287s | makes things nice and simple and helps |
26289s | me and other people understand what's |
26290s | going on but now if that exact same |
26292s | formula applies he's only got to get |
26294s | away with two of his decks not three of |
26296s | them against the Druid and of course can |
26298s | still beat the other decks as well so an |
26301s | absolutely monstrous first game there |
26302s | for extension |
26304s | yes indeed speaking of your uh reductive |
26307s | opinions you're kind of Lucky there's no |
26309s | Relic Demon Hunter in this series I |
26311s | think because I've been gritting my tea |
26313s | through your world you just win the game |
26315s | if you draw location and you lose if you |
26316s | don't all day come on honestly I play |
26320s | that deck right I'm quite fond of it |
26322s | it's my go-to deck for just having fun |
26324s | on ladder if I want to you know me I'm |
26327s | the unluckiest Milestone player in the |
26328s | world and I've proven this on stream on |
26330s | multiple occasions I never draw a relic |
26333s | on curve it never happens I have 68 win |
26335s | rate with the deck |
26337s | Checkmate atheists yep okay sure yep |
26340s | proved all right I believe everything |
26342s | you just said okay good |
26348s | um yeah um but you're sure let's go with |
26350s | yes I like being reductive it makes |
26352s | things nice and easy your 68 win rate |
26355s | deck has not won a game of hearthstone |
26357s | in about however long we've been casting |
26359s | now yeah it's because too many of them |
26361s | are drawing location early that's the |
26363s | thing you shouldn't no you've got to not |
26364s | destroy it yeah yeah I just got the |
26366s | wrong side of the 50 50. I was just I |
26368s | was just baiting TJ just saying it the |
26369s | other way around that's what it is |
26373s | indeed right weak priest coming out from |
26377s | xmg moving forward this one as I said |
26380s | this is generally a very Tempo heavy |
26382s | play stuff play lots of it kind of deck |
26385s | right it's a his the theme throughout |
26387s | his lineup is dumping cards having big |
26391s | Power Spike turns right Druid dropping a |
26393s | bunch of minions buffing them up with |
26395s | Pride's Fury the style of play you just |
26397s | saw from Rogues same thing with the |
26398s | priest save up a little bit but again |
26401s | the same dilemma I was talking about |
26403s | with Rogue right the difference between |
26405s | a good wig priest player a competent wig |
26407s | priest player and a great wig priest |
26410s | player is the ability to find out which |
26413s | cards you're allowed to use turn two |
26415s | turn three turn four because you do have |
26417s | to play something you can't just sit |
26420s | there and do nothing or you'll get |
26421s | overwhelmed but there are certain key |
26423s | pieces that you can't give away uh |
26425s | radiant Elementals if you're dropping |
26426s | those on curve early for for no usage |
26429s | against Decks that have a good chance of |
26430s | clearing it you might Beyond in trouble |
26432s | but here for xmg this is a very good |
26435s | looking Mulligan for exactly that |
26437s | purpose Mark quartz describe and the |
26439s | location are two of the absolute premium |
26441s | cards that you do want to be playing on |
26443s | curve functionally that location just |
26446s | serving as free card draw throughout the |
26448s | game to get you closer to those key |
26451s | cards uh like wig like Thrive like the |
26454s | pelicos like Boone of the ascended like |
26457s | the radiant Elemental specifically so I |
26460s | do |
26461s | favor his opening there I would say but |
26464s | obviously Paladin is a deck that does |
26466s | have the ability to fight back against |
26467s | large boards no matter the size |
26470s | absolutely and always has been and |
26473s | that's why Paladin's always been around |
26474s | irritating people |
26476s | um I've been very vocal about thinking |
26478s | that warlock is the the metal warping |
26480s | deck for this particular tournament is |
26482s | that harsh on this priest deck just |
26484s | because not that many people have |
26485s | actually brought it |
26487s | um well about half maybe but is this the |
26489s | date that people actually started with |
26491s | and then sort of ironed out one way or |
26493s | the other before they even look at the |
26494s | warlocks |
26496s | it's a good question I so as you know I |
26498s | sort of pretend I'm playing in |
26500s | tournaments when I'm casting them and |
26502s | then Theory craft and try and come up |
26503s | with a lineup which I mostly do on my |
26506s | own just to not be influenced by like |
26508s | you know group thinking practice groups |
26509s | and stuff but my thinking coming into |
26511s | this was the priest and warlock were |
26515s | both very good |
26517s | um but I actually ended up in a similar |
26518s | place to where pocket train got to if |
26521s | I'm honest which I thought I thought |
26523s | there would be more control decks trying |
26525s | to stop these aggro decks from winning |
26527s | more Decks that were able to deal with |
26529s | the first two or three boards and then |
26530s | the game kind of ends because they can't |
26531s | refill from that point and that didn't |
26533s | happen so I think I agree with your |
26536s | assessment in the my starting point in |
26538s | thinking was Priest warlock right and |
26540s | then where do we go from there uh how |
26543s | deep down the counter rabbit hole do we |
26545s | end up going before we get to the Decks |
26547s | that people actually end up playing and |
26548s | it turns out not very far at all people |
26550s | are just playing priest warlock that's |
26552s | what they're doing yeah I I think that |
26555s | when you do that and again this is where |
26557s | we ended up anyway so it's easy for me |
26559s | because I'm talking about hindsight yeah |
26561s | when you do that you start with priest |
26563s | and warlock what happens is the Warlock |
26565s | just doesn't go away like you look at |
26568s | these two decks they're the two better |
26569s | decks in the format most likely on a |
26571s | pure level but in some situations a |
26574s | priest doesn't exist but in nearly every |
26576s | situation you just go and warlock |
26577s | because why not |
26579s | it just sort of is so reasonably good |
26582s | against everything you end up playing it |
26584s | in nearly every lineup |
26588s | hands starting to get a little bit |
26591s | awkward here for xmg uh while we've been |
26594s | discussing the tournament metagame as a |
26596s | whole that super clutch carrier has come |
26598s | down for spring I was going to make the |
26600s | point you know I was talking earlier |
26602s | certain matchups you're not playing |
26603s | radiant Elemental early because it's too |
26605s | scary it's too easy to remove by the |
26607s | opponent Paladin really struggles to |
26610s | stop minions between turns one to four |
26613s | let's say but four is the point where a |
26615s | couple of outs do appear such as that |
26617s | carry or Rome coming out so quite often |
26619s | if you have radiant Elemental opening |
26620s | hand there are situations where you can |
26622s | just jam it against Paladin because |
26623s | they're not going to be able to answer |
26625s | it and you can just straight up snowball |
26626s | of that one minion in the coming turns |
26628s | that would have been a pretty similar |
26630s | situation to what we would have seen |
26632s | here not as impactful because it wasn't |
26633s | specifically a radiant Elemental but it |
26635s | was early minion buff that early minion |
26637s | have persistent Buffs to keep making it |
26639s | bigger over time it was that carry or |
26642s | Rome which has now picked up two massive |
26644s | trades that has really stopped spring |
26647s | from falling too far behind in this |
26649s | matchup yeah and this just wall of |
26652s | nonsense that's going to be in the way |
26653s | for the next two or three turns now as |
26655s | well is going to make it very hard for |
26657s | xmg to actually |
26659s | too much threatening whilst spring gets |
26661s | set up |
26662s | he did find a really good way last game |
26664s | of course and making sure the road got |
26666s | through but look at all this taunty |
26667s | silliness |
26670s | the free light Forge carrier |
26673s | being hidden from view we're actually |
26674s | not allowed to see it it's so filthy |
26676s | whenever you generate an extra copy of |
26677s | light Forge carrier we actually don't |
26678s | show it properly on the screen that's |
26680s | that's the rules it's uh it's just for |
26682s | you at home so you don't get too |
26683s | disgusted I do kind of like this pick |
26686s | though because the The Order in the |
26689s | Court is always going to be available |
26690s | and that will draw you uh carry all |
26692s | within the first couple of cards |
26693s | regardless depending on what comes out |
26695s | from here so I like this ability to keep |
26697s | playing for Tempo speaking of playing |
26699s | for Tempo uh freaking seven seven |
26702s | handmade and on the board that was just |
26704s | drawn that turn and just played to be a |
26707s | minion the xmg could play and start |
26709s | putting stats on at the start of the |
26711s | turn and then Judgment of Justice |
26713s | absolutely shutting that down you can |
26715s | see the power of the pick there |
26717s | immediately and spring being this far |
26721s | ahead this early in the game hard to see |
26723s | a way back but if you look extra hard |
26726s | it's probably that blade Master Samurai |
26728s | sat near the far right of xmg's hand |
26731s | yeah and he he made sure that that |
26734s | didn't get turned into a 1-1 at least |
26735s | because that's kind of his only chance |
26737s | right now from what we can see |
26740s | um how long would he be holding on to |
26742s | this though is he going to look to Boone |
26743s | it or is he going to look to clear this |
26745s | before it gets too much on the other |
26746s | side because this is starting to add up |
26748s | for spring it's not just a wall of |
26750s | Defense anymore it's actually starting |
26751s | to do some damage like you said right in |
26753s | the intro yeah and if you want you know |
26755s | a cliff notes version a general rule of |
26757s | like when you have to stop and actually |
26758s | clear against uh your opponent with this |
26761s | deck it's fairly straightforward if you |
26763s | get to the point where your opponent can |
26765s | just kill a minion you make with their |
26767s | existing board and it's no challenge for |
26768s | them to do so then there's no point in |
26771s | you just playing minions and buffing |
26772s | them anymore right you're just on a |
26773s | hiding to nothing at that point so we're |
26775s | kind of already there because of the 4-4 |
26777s | school teacher it needs absolutely |
26779s | nothing for the spring to be able to |
26781s | deal with any horde that xmg tries to |
26783s | make here so yeah I'm just going to use |
26785s | the buff take care of this yeah the |
26787s | other side is he hasn't had to use |
26789s | anything other than above to take care |
26792s | of it because things didn't get too out |
26793s | of hand he kept the Divine shields in |
26794s | check and everything so just gonna play |
26796s | his freebies on there now pretty much |
26798s | yeah I can drop the serpent wig because |
26800s | it's already refreshed at this point so |
26803s | no big deal to drop that on there to get |
26805s | a full clear take control back of the |
26807s | board but he knows he needs to get a |
26809s | move on here because Order in the Court |
26811s | was played by spring on the previous |
26813s | turn but that means that the Heavy |
26816s | Hitters are going to be coming and xmg |
26818s | will basically start to know exactly |
26819s | what the seats are |
26823s | it's the boy |
26826s | oh boy |
26830s | this other option that he's thinking |
26831s | about is think about do I lose if I play |
26833s | theater I guess it's quite a sensible |
26835s | thing to think about |
26838s | yeah and I think this is one of the |
26840s | biggest impacts of the Nerf to theater |
26841s | specifically I think I said this to |
26843s | someone I think it was Derek when we |
26845s | first heard about this and we were |
26847s | debating like whether this is good |
26848s | enough you know whether you actually |
26850s | have to warsong theater or whether you |
26852s | could actually do Mana stat adjustments |
26854s | in in making it |
26856s | um flexible in them in the meta and I do |
26858s | think this is the big deal because |
26859s | already at four there were situations |
26862s | where you couldn't afford to play a four |
26864s | Mana three three because you just |
26865s | started right because the The Meta game |
26866s | is so pressure focused in a lot of |
26868s | positions yes Rising it up to five |
26871s | obviously increases that enormously but |
26874s | I think in this spot when you have 40 |
26875s | Health when you have the promise of |
26877s | healing coming in the future when you |
26878s | have the promise of carry all off the |
26880s | top as well I think uh spring is |
26883s | perfectly secure |
26887s | yep he just paid some attention to it |
26890s | decided the same thing and looking at |
26892s | his hand now it's a really good hand for |
26894s | xmg but spring is still safe so he |
26897s | definitely assessed it correctly |
26899s | it is a good hand though if you can just |
26901s | get it go if it wasn't against Paladin |
26902s | right now this would be easy yep for |
26904s | sure |
26905s | unfortunately that's not how the lineups |
26909s | work and he is against padding right now |
26910s | and it's not easy |
26915s | and and the trouble is like we talked |
26918s | with a rogue deck about not going all in |
26920s | trying to set up two or three different |
26921s | ways to win |
26923s | yes you can do that with the with the |
26925s | priest but the Paladin does just win |
26928s | pretty soon here so you can't do it many |
26930s | times |
26933s | yeah and that's what why I respect this |
26936s | explosion of action here from xmg I |
26938s | think this is absolutely the right way |
26940s | to go about it just go as all in as |
26943s | possible on this one minion get the |
26944s | damage through 26 to face and just hope |
26948s | that this ends up being good enough |
26951s | spoilers yeah it doesn't no later |
26958s | quality no real surprise xmg is not |
26960s | gonna be shocked by that one |
26962s | um particularly but with carrier in hand |
26963s | and then the other stuff coming straight |
26965s | afterwards but I I think this is a |
26968s | really interesting case study in high |
26970s | level Hearthstone right it's he's xmg |
26973s | has played two games he's known equality |
26976s | exists in both of them he knows that |
26978s | you're supposed to play around equality |
26979s | in both of them and him one he chose two |
26982s | and one he chose not to and I think the |
26984s | difference is that in the first one he |
26986s | was in a position where he could play |
26988s | around equality and still win right like |
26990s | he was fine saying I can slow this down |
26992s | I still have lethal outs I'm happy for |
26995s | the game to go one two three more turns |
26997s | from this position if it has to still |
26999s | feel fine I think in this one he feels |
27001s | that pressure that ticking clock that |
27003s | the opponent's putting on him and saying |
27005s | well if that equality clear is there I |
27008s | can't get it out of their hand until I |
27010s | do the massive thing that tries to win |
27012s | the game so that you know I have no real |
27014s | reason to play around it in this spot so |
27016s | I think xmg has got it right twice got |
27019s | rewarded for it once which you know |
27021s | sounds about right if you'd offered him |
27022s | 50 out of these two games at the start |
27024s | of the the match he'd have absolutely |
27026s | snapped your hand off given that he's |
27028s | got the Druid versus his aggro lineup |
27029s | still to come so |
27031s | your job done and I think that is being |
27033s | rewarded even though it sounds about you |
27035s | so he's only been rewarded once for 12 |
27036s | out of two for his good plays that's |
27038s | where these players get their 50 instead |
27040s | of my 23 or whatever it is I'm not going |
27043s | to check like in these sort of matchups |
27045s | so |
27046s | wait 23 oh no I don't know I just I just |
27049s | actually made that up the ball piece |
27050s | thing I was gonna say that's yours yeah |
27053s | oh no that's that's not my board piece |
27055s | now but I wish it was my board please |
27056s | now I'm sorry to 2.8 I had to square I |
27059s | couldn't see that yeah |
27061s | thank you |
27064s | peace |
27068s | guys just keep on coming he's like xmg |
27071s | starts looking down as if he's gonna |
27072s | play his turn he looks back over there's |
27073s | another thing on the board on the other |
27075s | side yeah spring plays that turn |
27077s | lightning fast as well just drops the |
27079s | minions into play bumps every point of |
27082s | damage he can into the existing minion |
27084s | on board |
27085s | but it might still end up just being a |
27088s | problem here there is a shadow word |
27089s | devour to get through that taunt |
27095s | okay |
27099s | I can't quite recall what is in the |
27102s | naggle and whether that is going to end |
27104s | up uh helping yeah |
27108s | I nearly saw it then and then I didn't |
27110s | see it it's Shard okay |
27117s | foreign |
27122s | [Music] |
27127s | for it as well |
27128s | but it was there the lethal out was |
27131s | there we borderline given up on this |
27133s | game Lorinda and there's only six cars |
27136s | left in Decks that was a one in three if |
27137s | there's only one left if there's one or |
27139s | two I've lost track myself now one was |
27141s | used yeah one was used so absolutely got |
27145s | it down to nearly taking two out of two |
27148s | xmg having a great day so far you know |
27151s | it's only one all |
27153s | hey you see it one-off copy it's that |
27156s | hanging around in the deck |
27159s | wow |
27164s | is it actually over now I'm just making |
27167s | sure I haven't missed something else |
27168s | there's the quality there's a carrier |
27170s | that sounds good |
27174s | both of those things do sound promising |
27176s | yes and he has 10 Mana just to be clear |
27179s | just in case you you know you can't see |
27181s | the top of your screen this is why I |
27184s | like you learn that you cover all the |
27185s | bases |
27187s | if only I did that when I was playing |
27190s | Hearthstone well yeah I've got a caviar |
27193s | and a quality player quality |
27203s | well you choose to draw the card xmg you |
27207s | chose to play on |
27211s | I don't blame you for that but you know |
27213s | bless is gonna happen to you |
27217s | can he generate anything marginally big |
27220s | with the Boon and protect the thing |
27221s | behind it for his one in a million world |
27228s | yeah that's the thought right problem is |
27230s | with both Shadowood devours used there's |
27232s | not going to be a way to clear up these |
27234s | uh one Health Minions on the other side |
27237s | so you just have to desperately try and |
27240s | make something stick here yes what he's |
27243s | going with |
27246s | and then it's lethal if one of them |
27247s | somehow sticks |
27256s | how big is Danny |
27259s | I feel like spring hasn't I mean he's |
27262s | decent big but I feel like spring hasn't |
27263s | played that many menus he's been sort of |
27265s | controlling the game of spells right for |
27266s | the most part |
27269s | I mean not big it's still probably 12 or |
27270s | 13 which would be plenty |
27277s | because he had five minions early on |
27291s | make sure all the way back up to 20 |
27293s | which means of course your opponent |
27295s | needs to attack for 40 to be able to end |
27298s | the game at this point oh you're so |
27299s | silly good luck with that |
27302s | even though you don't clear here just |
27304s | you know siding two of the minions off |
27305s | and cutting into the existing Health |
27307s | pool of that one minion that you do have |
27310s | this thing heals himself for 20 more uh |
27313s | you have The Shard though remember in |
27314s | the oh yeah in the naggling |
27316s | sure okay as long as I uh read that tiny |
27319s | text correctly as it popped up on the |
27320s | screen briefly |
27325s | take me pick me |
27327s | yeah yeah good reading |
27333s | okay |
27334s | and hopefully use that to refresh the |
27336s | serpent wigs as well |
27343s | okay |
27343s | nothing will you see that again in the |
27346s | remainder of the deck I don't think uh |
27349s | thriving Shadows can't really go fishing |
27351s | for anything |
27352s | only spell remaining is a ironically A |
27356s | Shard of the naaru which he could have |
27357s | used instead if he wanted to cast Thrive |
27359s | but significantly cheaper to end up |
27360s | doing it this way |
27363s | okay right yup he's still in it |
27367s | how is he still in it again we've |
27369s | hitting him off three times |
27372s | stop playing good Hearthstone |
27375s | actually don't I could do some good |
27376s | Hearthstone in my life |
27384s | he's feeling it as well he's like the |
27387s | Stress and Anxiety you can see in that |
27389s | bottom camera just rocking back and |
27391s | forth doesn't know what to do with his |
27393s | hands |
27394s | it's like come on I played so well these |
27396s | two games I deserve to be 2-0 up |
27404s | I'm gonna drop the city tax which you |
27405s | know functionally heals for six as well |
27408s | as killing the one one on the board |
27409s | that's the news for xmg that there's no |
27412s | equality in hand no second equality |
27416s | went for the buff on the righteous |
27417s | protector there as well I think |
27419s | specifically instead of playing the |
27420s | blade master okani |
27423s | is a difficult decision I think overall |
27426s | okay does hit the taunt in the end but |
27428s | there is still a Shard left remaining in |
27429s | the deck that's not the draw unless Our |
27432s | Deck tracker is messed up it is still in |
27433s | there |
27435s | yeah it's showing four cards but the |
27436s | card I believe it's showing us that is |
27438s | not in there is Priestess for leash |
27439s | because that is in Spring's hand from |
27441s | the uh Field view |
27443s | that would make a lot of sense |
27447s | I wonder now it's how do you protect |
27449s | both of these I think is the idea right |
27451s | I'm gonna protect this 15 6 to some |
27454s | extent |
27456s | or just draw your Shard yeah exactly you |
27459s | have Thrive for The Shard which is |
27460s | guaranteed |
27461s | then you're able to push 16 face because |
27464s | currently because both of these minions |
27466s | uh will attack for eight halved rounded |
27468s | up |
27469s | at the serpent weeks to go through as |
27471s | well with amalgam to try and find some |
27474s | additional outs |
27475s | but he does still need to protect the |
27477s | smaller one right the 16 8. |
27480s | not necessarily |
27486s | if you get close like if you manage to |
27488s | push 20-ish this turn all right even if |
27491s | it doesn't end up being lethal you don't |
27493s | need both minions again then right is it |
27496s | you yeah this is saying like 168 could |
27498s | die I was worrying about how to spend |
27500s | two Mana healing here and putting wigs |
27501s | on it to stop it from dying he's just |
27503s | saying let it die yep agreed you just |
27505s | need one minion for the following turn |
27510s | Reno not active for spring |
27514s | xmg resumes the stress position yeah |
27517s | paper turn now gets dressed again great |
27522s | pretty soon assuming the same stance as |
27525s | that uh piece of art he's got in the |
27526s | background just praying that he's going |
27529s | to get there |
27534s | the thing can't do all the different |
27536s | things he needs to do needs to play the |
27537s | taunt he needs |
27541s | got there |
27543s | oh what a game what a game love a bit of |
27546s | wig priest me and yeah it looked like |
27548s | after that initial push that xmg was |
27550s | going to find himself down and out but |
27553s | the answers weren't there I was gonna |
27555s | try and find a point to uh fit this in |
27558s | and it all sort of started to pass by |
27560s | too fast excuse me itchy notes |
27563s | um but one of the things that you do |
27564s | have to worry about with Paladin is that |
27567s | when you do have that uh stacking your |
27569s | deck effect with the Order in the Court |
27571s | you have to be really confident that you |
27574s | no longer need to draw your equality |
27576s | your city tax your blade Master Samurai |
27579s | Your Righteous protectors all of these |
27581s | defensive cards that can stop you for |
27583s | from dying for long enough and I think |
27586s | you know I was at obviously I was |
27588s | absolutely there with sprig because we |
27590s | were talking at that point as if the |
27591s | game was over after that quality clear |
27593s | came down but I think it turned out that |
27596s | you know against the the quality of the |
27598s | distribution and the rationing that xmg |
27601s | was able to put together he actually |
27603s | needed demo defensive cards before he |
27605s | was able to go on the outright offense |
27606s | then yeah dinathus did turn up to be |
27609s | reasonably small as well I doubted |
27612s | myself briefly though until I actually |
27614s | saw it it's like perhaps you did play |
27615s | all these things earlier but if you |
27616s | carry on from doing the two or three |
27617s | terms just chucking things onto it it |
27618s | would have been a lot bigger and now xmg |
27621s | finds himself in this spot where I |
27623s | talked about the Druid on the other side |
27624s | he might not even have to play against |
27626s | it he's 2-0 without having to play |
27628s | against the Druid which is his good |
27629s | matchup in this series he's in a great |
27633s | spot and he deserves to be he's played |
27635s | so well so far and honestly this deck |
27638s | this deck list is just one of my go-to |
27641s | pleasing soothing anxiety relieving |
27644s | visual ASMR uh go-to you know for some |
27647s | people it's like you know books sliding |
27649s | perfectly into a bookshelf into a space |
27651s | that just so perfectly fits the book uh |
27654s | the other one for me the sock collection |
27656s | at Uniqlo go check it out if you've |
27658s | never seen it it's wonderful but this |
27660s | perfect 30 cards 15 two of all slotting |
27664s | beautifully into one side of the deck |
27667s | this is how Hearthstone is supposed to |
27669s | be played Lorinda I knew you'd like this |
27671s | you see it's all just nice and neat on |
27673s | the left-hand side I wish I had |
27674s | something that soothed me and calmed me |
27676s | down I'm just messy jibbering wreck like |
27679s | I am because I don't have a a calming |
27681s | thing what's the sock collection maybe |
27683s | I'll try that the soccer so it's um if |
27686s | you imagine like a a giant |
27688s | um book again kind of a bookcase thing |
27690s | on the wall but they have this this sock |
27693s | range where they have like 30 40 |
27694s | different colors of sock and then they |
27696s | arrange them in the store so perfectly |
27699s | so there's these little vertical cubby |
27701s | holes in the bookshelf thing and each |
27703s | one is just stacked with socks and then |
27705s | going on a perfect color gradient across |
27708s | from left to right and you can tell |
27710s | anytime someone like picks up a pair of |
27712s | socks and looks at it and puts them back |
27713s | immediately a member of staff goes back |
27716s | folds it perfectly arranges it straight |
27718s | because it's always perfect every single |
27721s | time that you look at it it's gorgeous |
27722s | one of the best things to look at in the |
27724s | entire world that does sound actually |
27726s | amazing I guess the only thing I even |
27728s | came close to that is nothing like that |
27730s | was the Hall of Fame in Atlanta with all |
27732s | the American football helmets the |
27734s | college helmets all absolutely arranged |
27736s | on the wall in |
27737s | not in a beautiful color-graded order |
27740s | though just in a fairly nice pleasing |
27742s | display order |
27744s | yeah I see Ravens Raven's backing me up |
27746s | I've dragged Raven to uh to Uniqlo |
27749s | before he's seen the Marvel of the sock |
27750s | collection |
27752s | okay sounds like I need to see it |
27758s | all right get the peasant down protect |
27760s | that peasant make sure that you are |
27762s | drawing all the resources you are going |
27764s | to need and this is exactly the kind of |
27767s | thing I was talking about in the |
27768s | previous game right in that instance |
27770s | with radiant Elemental in this instant |
27772s | with peasant basically |
27775s | uninteractable for Paladin and has been |
27777s | this has been the case since basically |
27780s | the launch of the game where you could |
27781s | just play things right like back in 2014 |
27784s | it was knife juggler right you just |
27785s | slammed knife juggler on two against |
27787s | Paladin because if they didn't have a |
27789s | Zombie Chow or whatever on board on turn |
27791s | one to be able to contest it they had no |
27793s | ability to compete from hand it's just |
27795s | been one of Paladin's greatest |
27797s | weaknesses for quite some time there was |
27799s | a period of time where they flirted with |
27800s | like was it righteous blade 3-2 weapon |
27803s | thing I believe that buffed a Divine |
27805s | Shield Minion or something that kind of |
27807s | changed things for a while but this is |
27809s | just it and you can see him reaping the |
27811s | benefits yeah his style of nervousness |
27814s | has changed from oh please let me in |
27816s | this too I think I'm going to win this |
27818s | there's a different sort of expression |
27820s | on his face when he's nervous now |
27823s | and yeah he's gonna do so much damage |
27827s | here I realize that Paladin can |
27828s | stabilize so easily if it does stabilize |
27831s | but |
27832s | also you can say like so solidly if it |
27834s | does stabilize but this might just get |
27836s | there |
27838s | it very well might and I think point |
27841s | being because peasant is drawing and |
27843s | because crooked cook is about to come |
27845s | down we're in a situation where is he |
27848s | gonna dump three cars and prize a few of |
27850s | them I think that's what he's thinking |
27851s | about though he went for the cookie cook |
27853s | and changed his mind |
27855s | foreign |
27857s | I do like this and I think the trade |
27859s | happens as well yes exactly the reason I |
27861s | like this is the exact card that uh |
27863s | almost put him to bed last game and |
27866s | that's carry or Rome right whereas if he |
27868s | does any other play and leaves the 2-1 |
27870s | on board there's no other play that |
27872s | really fit the idea of buffing the |
27873s | minions attack then suddenly the two |
27875s | attack minion on the other side and |
27876s | carry all can take care of the peasant |
27878s | that's not only the biggest minion |
27879s | biting the dust it's also the primary |
27881s | source of card draw biting the dust he'd |
27883s | then be in a position where his crooked |
27884s | cook might not be drawing anymore his |
27886s | peasant wouldn't be drawing anymore so I |
27888s | do really like this play for that reason |
27889s | yeah and it was the play that instantly |
27891s | jumped even to my eyes to be honest |
27894s | um not for all those reasons but just |
27895s | because it's a fairly straightforward |
27896s | nice looking play and I I saw him take |
27898s | it back and have a look and the other |
27900s | play is really appealing as well just |
27902s | load up the board with stuff yeah I just |
27905s | hit you with it trog trog Slither Spear |
27908s | and then Prides Fury the next turn right |
27909s | yeah I just like your eyes and pray yeah |
27911s | good luck Sam are rowing that a lot if |
27913s | you get this far like |
27915s | yeah but he did go for the the sensible |
27919s | um Way Forward and that would be because |
27920s | he'd have looked at and gone okay |
27923s | in the world where there's a carrier do |
27925s | I still do okay the other way and the |
27927s | answer is no in this way he hasn't got |
27929s | the Carib enjoy doing okay the answer is |
27930s | probably yes |
27936s | that was sharp intakes of breath what's |
27940s | caught the exact attention just the |
27942s | damage or something else I'm just trying |
27944s | to break down the amount of turns that |
27947s | xmg needs of having minions attacking |
27950s | because he doesn't have many at this |
27952s | point right the equality Samurai is in |
27954s | his future uh a quality even coming out |
27957s | now with the uh servant on the other |
27960s | side coming out and clearing up |
27962s | everything but the trog xmg was not |
27965s | pleased to see that |
27967s | um but yes with this initial play coming |
27969s | down this is kind of what I was looking |
27970s | at as he has the the hand to be able to |
27972s | rebuild this but then if there's another |
27975s | answer for this coming on the following |
27977s | turn does he have the hand to rebuild |
27979s | again and I think that's where it |
27980s | becomes a slightly bigger problem |
27982s | overall |
27983s | I feel like we could just copy paste |
27986s | that commentary into all three of these |
27988s | games even though we've said it in |
27989s | different ways lots of nuance for the |
27992s | different styles of each game and we are |
27994s | once again in how many reloads do I have |
27996s | and how quickly do I have to get through |
27999s | them and this time |
28000s | there was a gradient last time from I |
28003s | can afford to take my time to I better |
28005s | Panic this one's even more all in than |
28007s | the other two |
28009s | smack |
28012s | that's you |
28015s | having nothing really righteous defense |
28018s | and Blessing of Kings do both offer |
28020s | options this turn it's a big deal |
28022s | especially if you can get stats on the |
28024s | noggling and then immediately commit it |
28026s | this turn that would work out fairly |
28028s | well but I was I would imagine spring |
28031s | was in the business of something that |
28032s | would help him fully AOE with the blade |
28035s | Master Samurai perhaps next turn for |
28037s | example to be able to clear this up |
28038s | again because then he could probably do |
28040s | you know Samurai plus whatever to clear |
28042s | on six Leviathan to kill the reload on |
28046s | seven and then you're into carry on |
28047s | eight and that probably would have been |
28049s | pretty secure from that point now as it |
28052s | stands he still has one turn in there |
28054s | that's a big question mark right no real |
28057s | way to guarantee that that is coming out |
28059s | yeah |
28060s | the cast of the city tax just to gained |
28063s | some health and just to do some damage |
28064s | to these because he knows the prize for |
28066s | yours are in his future |
28068s | or are they certainly are I think |
28074s | scene one equality I think it is time to |
28076s | really start stacking the health on |
28077s | those minions |
28080s | the problem is the board that he's being |
28082s | shown is kind of |
28084s | large enough to be irritating |
28088s | I'm almost in you know Face Hunter board |
28090s | Shield mode right where you just put the |
28092s | blinkers over the board and just leave |
28094s | the height for the face yep |
28097s | those are the days |
28098s | a thing that somebody actually did |
28100s | amazing |
28103s | you're dumping so much health onto your |
28105s | minions here right like the most easily |
28107s | killable minion |
28109s | uh is going to have four attack here |
28111s | anyway so it's not like even the Renault |
28113s | Falcon value trade into it |
28115s | do I think this is a opponent makes the |
28117s | trades for you kind of situation |
28119s | a little confused as to why Pride's |
28121s | theory was being the first card for a |
28124s | second |
28125s | yeah for a second I think maybe just |
28127s | maybe he was thinking of hero powering |
28129s | down the one one just to remove it |
28131s | that's all I had okay because that would |
28133s | be more relevant on the covet board |
28134s | State then buffing your three four that |
28136s | might never actually interplay all right |
28138s | so that trade I was talking about you |
28141s | know the Renault being the one thing |
28143s | that can value trade that was enough to |
28145s | I will say bait xmg into making that |
28147s | attack |
28148s | uh but I think personally I would have |
28150s | just ripped it all face and let them |
28151s | figure it out |
28157s | yeah just Okay one minute 15 seconds go |
28161s | I don't care it's just some numbers to |
28164s | me you do it |
28171s | ah spin played this and now he's trying |
28173s | to work out what to do that seems like |
28174s | bad ordering |
28177s | yeah the alternative was like a |
28179s | righteous defense Samurai play right |
28181s | yeah I mean that's a reasonable |
28184s | alternative especially if the righteous |
28185s | defense did actually land on the samurai |
28189s | but I think this is enough to be getting |
28192s | on with from here |
28195s | not gonna be a full clear but enough to |
28197s | take care of business |
28199s | just leaving a solitary five seven on |
28201s | the board rolling into the carry on the |
28203s | following turn you can pretty much |
28204s | guarantee outside of living routes that |
28207s | you get to keep one of these minions for |
28209s | the following turn |
28211s | or |
28212s | discovering random spells |
28215s | such as scale of inyxia |
28217s | it's only just occurred to me composting |
28220s | is not even in this deck |
28223s | just because it doesn't need it with the |
28224s | cookies Cooks now right so |
28227s | don't do all cards the old-fashioned way |
28229s | you just |
28230s | play your stuff right between peasant |
28233s | crooked cook you tend to have enough |
28236s | card drawing also uh with the |
28238s | introduction of the card generation |
28240s | right that you're looking at right now |
28241s | is just you can usually pick up some |
28243s | card draw from this if you're really |
28244s | desperate for it or sometimes I should |
28245s | say usually is not an accurate |
28247s | description |
28249s | but yeah the option is available that's |
28251s | fair yep |
28254s | the difficulty here is the carial term |
28257s | that you're worried you're running into |
28258s | right because on the surface scale of |
28261s | nyxia just looks so freaking juicy but |
28265s | it can just get blown up by Carol |
28267s | yeah this is the best way to go about it |
28270s | now if the carrier comes down yes you |
28272s | lose your welps |
28273s | you maintain a very large Slither spear |
28276s | on the other side |
28278s | and it is righteous defense time |
28283s | that's being traded I can promise you |
28285s | that yes hopefully don't don't miss |
28288s | click and just put it on the board |
28289s | register fans where does it land it |
28292s | lands on the samurai as well |
28294s | and that is the full ball swing spring I |
28297s | think even with a little gesture a |
28299s | little whoa of course swiping the board |
28301s | with the blade Master samurai or perhaps |
28303s | a get out of my game either way I think |
28306s | he's very accurate in his assessment I |
28308s | think it was the Paladin to get out of |
28309s | his lineup the way it's been it's like |
28311s | okay gamma number three like you're |
28314s | bringing Paladin this is the lineup you |
28316s | want to see this is kind of the only |
28318s | lineup you want to see you've correctly |
28319s | predicted your opponent you could bring |
28321s | your palette on that feel here are your |
28322s | two zero down absolutely terrible I'm |
28325s | not sure that's necessarily the case I |
28328s | think I mean this this might just be |
28331s | more of an indictment of my opinion of |
28332s | Paladin in general |
28334s | um obviously it is a control deck and |
28336s | like classically you would think yeah |
28337s | you know boards that swarm onto the ball |
28339s | early are super all in and then if you |
28341s | can clear their stuff they lose right |
28343s | like that's the kind of deck the Paladin |
28345s | should be but it's such a linear deck in |
28349s | general that I think smart players with |
28350s | aggro decks can still find ways around |
28352s | it in general but you are probably right |
28354s | in the assessment that if if a player is |
28357s | bringing Paladin that's what I'm going |
28359s | with yeah yeah more Paladin right then |
28362s | they're probably hoping to do a little |
28363s | better against these kind of matchups |
28365s | than they currently are yeah yeah your |
28367s | assessment that you know Paladin seems a |
28370s | bit bad I think we've just seen the |
28372s | that's probably true against good |
28374s | players we've just seen a good player |
28375s | Taken part especially in game one an |
28378s | absolutely fine pad intro a game two a |
28381s | little bit shakier draw but still took |
28383s | it apart and game three nearly got it |
28385s | done as well so spring does get the |
28387s | poding out of there he's got a day of |
28389s | playing this deck now so be interesting |
28391s | to see if that's just a sample size of |
28393s | three thing or if it carries on like |
28394s | that now he moves presumably onto the |
28398s | Rogue before taking the Druid down given |
28400s | that he didn't cue the Druid early yeah |
28402s | yeah I'm Rogue it's Shelby this is going |
28405s | to be the jackpot slash Thief Rogue |
28407s | coming out much much slower much more uh |
28410s | feast or famine I would say when it |
28412s | comes against these aggro decks as well |
28414s | I do think uh in slower matchups in |
28416s | matchups that are going to go turn 10 |
28418s | and Beyond uh the row can normally piece |
28422s | something together you know no matter |
28424s | what the outcomes are from the random |
28426s | generated cards whether they are you |
28428s | know AOE or removal or value or Tempo or |
28431s | whatever they are you can find a plan |
28433s | that works but I do feel a lot of the |
28436s | time uh going up against aggro |
28438s | specifically you do need them to be a |
28440s | little bit kind to you if those are to |
28442s | be the cards that are drawn the other |
28444s | way that you can win these matchups |
28446s | against aggro is that you know the whole |
28448s | jackpot package doesn't really come into |
28450s | play and instead you just draw a very |
28452s | good Tempo curve right you find like a |
28454s | decent prep play maybe even use |
28456s | Blackwater Cutlass early to take down |
28458s | some Troggs and you just sort of curve |
28460s | out with efficient removal into uh |
28462s | Center Square on the Caster bingo card |
28465s | subtle says krabatoa on curve and then |
28469s | you just slam that down and win the game |
28471s | on Raw tempo right that can absolutely |
28473s | happen as well but if you're gonna get |
28475s | dealt jackpot trickster style stuff I |
28477s | think in this kind of matchup you do |
28479s | very often need it to be a little bit |
28480s | kind to you to find your way out yeah I |
28483s | don't know why Rogue gets a free pass so |
28485s | often so the Warlock deck we talk about |
28487s | you know how it's a naughty deck it's |
28490s | got two decks crammed into one it |
28492s | happens to work blah blah blah bad |
28494s | warlock bad shouldn't be doing this |
28495s | Rogue this is just two decks clammed |
28498s | into one as well and nobody ever talks |
28499s | about it it's the same thing it's a |
28502s | normal Tempo rogue deck and some stuff |
28504s | you throw in there for your jackpot |
28507s | silly deck let's crush them together and |
28509s | because Rogue players are what they are |
28511s | nobody cares it's just they just get on |
28512s | with it oh what are rogue players |
28514s | Lorinda why don't you eliminate that for |
28516s | us I don't know but I'm not one looking |
28518s | at my all-time stats okay fair enough |
28521s | better or worse than boar priests |
28523s | hierola |
28525s | I mean all time my pre-steps are fine |
28527s | because I played with zakas really well |
28528s | for the longest time okay |
28531s | um oh all time Rogue is my only losing |
28533s | class in Hearthstone wow it's because I |
28536s | don't enjoy Vogue so when I learn a new |
28538s | deck with Rogue I lose 20 games Win |
28540s | seven or eight think okay now I |
28541s | understand it well enough to talk about |
28542s | it I'm not going to play it anymore |
28544s | repeat repeat |
28550s | and right now I think spring might be on |
28553s | lorinda's side because that is trogging |
28555s | to buff on turn one I believe spring |
28558s | kept the si7 extortion which is the |
28560s | exact kind of thing I was talking about |
28562s | right I believe they're Mulligan into |
28564s | jackpot Contraband station has now drawn |
28566s | to nathrius which is the exact thing I |
28568s | was saying you really don't want to |
28570s | happen but he did keep extortion and was |
28572s | looking to just you know remove a minion |
28574s | on one maybe remove minion on two with |
28576s | the wicked stab and then just find a way |
28578s | to get some Tempo here and there but as |
28580s | it stands currently this is looking a |
28584s | little bit too Savage because fertilizer |
28587s | can come down here for plus one attack |
28589s | that's the nature spell then being |
28590s | played which means Herald of nature uh |
28593s | good old Harold can come down next turn |
28595s | and potentially just make the board |
28597s | State too oppressive to be dealt with on |
28599s | the other side yeah it's just silly you |
28602s | heard me sort of sucking in air there as |
28605s | the herald came off the top because |
28606s | everything is now just nutty and I'm not |
28609s | sure easy just can get rid of all this I |
28611s | mean you can trade into one minion |
28612s | obviously you can remove |
28614s | two with your hand |
28620s | uh uh okay accusation on the trog |
28628s | they did it your honor |
28632s | okay noted |
28635s | now |
28637s | there's still a truck a wicked stab the |
28639s | remaining trog okay I mean it's |
28642s | progress I'm sort of turning my nose up |
28644s | at it because it still achieves so |
28646s | little but to be fair it kind of did |
28648s | achieve more than anything else he was |
28650s | able to do right so fair enough yeah he |
28653s | had the choice achieve nothing or |
28654s | achieve a little bit so that's where he |
28656s | was at |
28657s | xmg this trade is happening for you I |
28660s | promise we went through this last game |
28664s | oh come on |
28666s | wow this time I even I would have um |
28669s | ignored it last time I think I might |
28671s | have been suckered into trading but this |
28673s | time like how on Earth is that not just |
28676s | um yeah I mean it's fine like Wicked |
28680s | stab number two hits your taunt the |
28682s | minion then trades your peasant I guess |
28684s | but I don't know give me three extra |
28687s | damage with this hand and that happens I |
28689s | think I'm kind of fine with it okay |
28690s | let's go the other way with that |
28691s | discussion just for the sake of |
28693s | discussion really yeah xmg was never |
28696s | winning this turn without with the trade |
28698s | or without the trade he was never |
28699s | getting enough damage to win this turn |
28701s | and he's always winning in two more |
28702s | turns so you can take the value while |
28705s | it's there uh he appears to be too off |
28707s | Lorinda so no I'm not sure |
28710s | [Laughter] |
28714s | can't just say things we think they can |
28718s | I do |
28720s | good job to put me right okay ah |
28727s | but yeah point being that it's very hard |
28730s | to win their next |
28732s | turns it up headset was off before the |
28735s | conceived come down the before concede |
28738s | come down why use many words when few |
28740s | words do trick um yeah it was a brutal |
28744s | series more of a day one series than a |
28746s | day two Series right and I think the |
28748s | common denominator when you look at that |
28749s | is the aggro lineup coming back into |
28751s | play because we saw a lot more of that |
28753s | aggro lineup on day one uh kind of these |
28756s | brutal day and even those did not go as |
28758s | far as aggro Druid which was the one |
28760s | deck that briefly stutter stepped uh for |
28763s | xmg in this series but very very quick |
28765s | series indeed like I feel I feel like |
28768s | I'm not earning my money today like I |
28770s | rocked out my cast one series I then sat |
28772s | on the sidelines for the rest of the |
28773s | group and then turned up and had like a |
28775s | 45 minute cast what's going on |
28778s | I don't know but I'm sure you'll learn |
28779s | them one day you you you you hang in |
28781s | there you'll find a way at least I |
28783s | turned up for work okay I mean yeah |
28784s | turning up for work's a really good |
28786s | start and letting people know you might |
28788s | be a little bit late you know second |
28789s | prize as well but yep spring must be |
28793s | absolutely terrified now he may have to |
28795s | play that again to survive later on in |
28797s | the day also I mean he didn't even play |
28799s | the Druid against this which is the deck |
28801s | though I thought might be the sticking |
28802s | point like that was a a mess for spring |
28805s | and |
28807s | they're watching myself listening to you |
28809s | talking didn't feel like he did that |
28810s | much particularly wrong it's just that |
28812s | the lineup wasn't operating as intended |
28815s | yeah I suspect the Paladin deck will |
28818s | probably be picked apart by someone who |
28820s | is an expert with that deck if those |
28822s | people do exist uh that person is not me |
28825s | I could go back and maybe break it down |
28827s | and find the moment where something |
28828s | could have been different the palette |
28830s | the Paladin versus uh priest |
28832s | specifically being the game that I'm |
28834s | talking about uh but outside of that I |
28837s | do think it was a very well played |
28839s | series reasonably so on both sides and I |
28842s | think xmg is looking scary with that |
28845s | aggro lineup in general remains to be |
28847s | seen whether it can stand the test of |
28848s | time against some of the other lineups |
28850s | in the group uh which our fellow casters |
28853s | will I'm sure elucidate you on as they |
28856s | come into play after a break very |
28858s | shortly but I was very happy to see that |
28861s | series get the get the aggro decks back |
28863s | into play get that variation running |
28864s | throughout the day I think xmg |
28866s | well-deserved winner in the end |
28868s | absolutely and of course still has to |
28871s | win one more to get through to |
28872s | tomorrow's action but looking good there |
28874s | but then aggro decks when they do go |
28876s | well do look good |
28878s | um coming up though we're going to have |
28879s | the second match in the group the second |
28881s | Opening match which is Gregory still |
28883s | versus U.S tayak MD definitely an |
28886s | America's player |
28887s | um and a doctor apparently and a doctor |
28890s | yeah America's doctor definitely um on |
28892s | our team there so we'll get that set up |
28894s | for you we'll be back in three minutes |
28896s | with more action from Group D |
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29094s | hello everybody and welcome back to the |
29096s | Masters Tour fall Championship we're |
29099s | cruising along with our fourth and final |
29101s | group here uh my name is CJ I'm joined |
29103s | by Gia Gia |
29106s | hello you're sharing in my pain now of |
29109s | the America's |
29111s | time zone but for the Europe event |
29114s | uh just straight overnight how you |
29117s | feeling |
29118s | I'm feeling okay actually my my special |
29121s | talent of being able to sleep in almost |
29123s | any location coming in very very handy |
29127s | here and |
29129s | um I have an unexpected amount of energy |
29132s | to cast a quest priest series |
29135s | uh unbelievable |
29137s | um well first off we'll we'll see if we |
29140s | even get to that point of question's |
29142s | even played I mean if I'm Gregorius I'm |
29143s | just queuing it up in game one but |
29145s | whatever you know maybe just to lose his |
29147s | 3-0 on some other deck but yes there's a |
29149s | quest priest there's also a boar priest |
29151s | uh another one on the side of |
29154s | ustyak MD |
29156s | us tiak MD that's how Lorinda said it uh |
29160s | the unpronounceable name or if you want |
29162s | to pronounce it all in as one like |
29166s | what uh |
29169s | I think that that's probably an |
29173s | acceptable |
29174s | abbreviation I think it's Jackman |
29179s | yeah do you think the MD is like medical |
29183s | doctor Dr |
29185s | ustyak |
29187s | because I know the ill in Gregorius is |
29190s | like I think the country |
29194s | uh well actually just became a doctor |
29198s | oh we got the MD mirror yeah |
29203s | um I saw it I saw this tweet |
29206s | and it when was this it was |
29210s | literally yesterday |
29212s | oh wow that's huge match I've decided to |
29216s | become a doctor today just in the middle |
29219s | of his prep my girlfriend |
29221s | that's amazing just found the time to |
29224s | get a whole new degree done while |
29226s | getting that prep in for the fall |
29229s | Championship potentially making it to |
29231s | Worlds |
29232s | what a guy |
29234s | well I'm pretty sure it's a PhD in |
29236s | mathematics oh so you don't you don't |
29239s | even need to actually play Hearthstone |
29242s | if you're a doctor in math of |
29244s | mathematics I think that's all the prep |
29246s | that you need |
29249s | could be it could be I mean if anything |
29251s | that's got to be an even more |
29254s | appropriate degree than what bunny |
29256s | Hopper has right and we all know that |
29259s | bunny Hopper is very good at Hearthstone |
29261s | yeah and I think if if you're a doctor |
29264s | in general you're good at Hearthstone |
29266s | because it usually means you're quite |
29268s | intelligent oh meaty |
29271s | I'm sorry |
29276s | oh you're gonna get added |
29278s | you're gonna get added |
29280s | um I said usually so I there's a there's |
29283s | a catch-all there fair enough fair |
29285s | enough |
29286s | gregorius's uh lineup is |
29289s | um sort of control heavy |
29292s | um the only deck that doesn't really fit |
29294s | that category but kind of does anyway is |
29297s | the Mage uh is playing the 30 card uh |
29301s | ping Mage which we've seen a ton it does |
29303s | have these shattering Blast Tech uh |
29305s | thrown in there which we also saw uh |
29308s | from uh algeru earlier in the day that |
29313s | did a lot of work uh specifically |
29316s | against what was it Naga priest which |
29318s | was fantastic so we'll see if that |
29321s | deck's gonna come into play but as far |
29323s | as the mid-range Shaman goes pretty |
29325s | standard |
29326s | yeah that is right moving over to the |
29329s | side of ustia he's had eight Masters |
29332s | Tour appearances which is actually not |
29335s | as many as a lot of the other people in |
29338s | this tournament just because we've had |
29339s | such a huge amount of them already but |
29341s | he's had such a great record here um |
29345s | going over 60 percent and that is why he |
29349s | is qualified through to here and he says |
29352s | he is not afraid of Theater which |
29355s | explains the combo heavy lineup that we |
29358s | have here not only is there aboard |
29359s | priest there's a charge Warrior just a |
29361s | jack that I haven't seen in so long do |
29363s | you remember Galvan gar TJ oh yeah oh |
29366s | yeah |
29367s | um Gavin guard has been replaced by uh |
29369s | what is it oh |
29371s | it's not old gray is it it might be Olga |
29374s | I always forget the name of it uh |
29376s | attacks every enemy and then |
29380s | aims damage for the how many damn yeah |
29383s | decimator will grow up that's the middle |
29385s | girl there you go was okra |
29387s | um that's the that's the new galvangar |
29389s | but this is old Gavin Garden yeah uh |
29392s | subtle posted the context I saw this uh |
29396s | it was yesterday it felt like so long |
29398s | ago but it all happened yesterday I used |
29400s | to tweet it out I'm not afraid of I'm |
29402s | Not Afraid before theater I will show |
29404s | everyone that otk decks are still pretty |
29406s | and then Gregorius responded to his |
29409s | tweet and said dude what the f is this |
29412s | uh with the full expert of used so okay |
29417s | pretty funny especially since if you |
29420s | look at gregorius's lineup uh it's a lot |
29423s | of the uh sort of anti-compo stuff |
29425s | there's theotar and three out of the |
29428s | four decks uh that he's playing so I |
29432s | don't know |
29433s | I'm curious if he was throwing out the |
29435s | what the f because of the decks |
29438s | themselves or because of the use of the |
29440s | word pretty |
29442s | because |
29443s | can be pretty you know does it mean |
29446s | they're good but this is definitely |
29447s | exactly pretty bad |
29450s | uh if you have just a decklist that's |
29452s | just all two ups that fit the same same |
29455s | color scheme right oh I'm thinking it's |
29458s | where you just pick all the blue cards |
29460s | and put it on two ups when you look at |
29462s | the deck list like on our graphic here |
29465s | that shows deckless it would look pretty |
29467s | but it would be bad |
29469s | I mean I think this one is pretty too |
29471s | even with the two columns here we got |
29472s | that key cards featuring three different |
29474s | Rarity gems the rare to Epic to |
29477s | legendary |
29479s | I'm very appreciative of that aesthetic |
29483s | anyway |
29484s | got the game Shaman versus the charge |
29488s | Warrior once again TJ you said there is |
29491s | a decent amount of disruption in |
29495s | gregorius's control leaning decks not |
29498s | only is there a theater in this Shaman |
29500s | there's of course mutinous being the |
29502s | very big one that can Chomp up either |
29504s | galvanga or faceless or |
29507s | uh sorry not record |
29509s | um Battlegrounds Battle Master and of |
29512s | those only the faceless is the |
29513s | redundancy so the other ones a bit scary |
29517s | yeah Shaman's probably the deck right |
29519s | now in the metagame that has the most |
29521s | disruption |
29523s | um unless you're playing the the full |
29525s | Shadow uh Thief priest list uh with that |
29529s | legendary that I can't remember the name |
29530s | of because I've barely seen it where |
29532s | every time you copy a card you steal the |
29535s | original that's the only deck that has |
29537s | more disruption than Shaman in the |
29539s | current meta game because you can get |
29541s | like you said mutinous but you can get |
29542s | mutinous out early then you can copy |
29545s | mutinous effect with brilliant macaw |
29548s | um just a lot of a lot of stuff it's the |
29550s | same with uh blade master or Connie and |
29553s | theatar you can you have those effects |
29556s | and then because of McCall you can copy |
29558s | them so |
29559s | um I feel like the raw power level if |
29561s | you take out the disruption of Shaman |
29563s | isn't that high but because they tend to |
29565s | make your turns really awkward |
29567s | it can sometimes feel difficult to play |
29569s | against right and when Shaman is the |
29572s | scariest is when they get the best of |
29574s | both worlds that disruption at the top |
29575s | and end their somewhat rare combo in the |
29578s | early game of the cheap gold charino |
29580s | plus Muk pools which is available to |
29582s | Gregorius not on coins so not quite this |
29586s | early but next turn he can get a 10 drop |
29588s | which historically is not easy for |
29591s | warrior to deal with just a singular |
29594s | large body there is I think execute in |
29597s | the list for ocean he does have a |
29598s | location but it's not in hand yet to |
29600s | execute |
29607s | probably just gonna be a hero power for |
29609s | grigorous here I guess he's |
29610s | contemplating whether he wanted to trade |
29612s | the Viper but I think that's a pretty |
29615s | good card in the matchup to deny the |
29617s | main card draw source for Uso which is |
29619s | this outriders act |
29620s | yep |
29622s | so nice little hold |
29624s | only one card gonna be drawn in the |
29627s | outrider attacks |
29629s | skipping the hero power all together I |
29632s | guess that might be a long-term play |
29634s | around brawl because the token really |
29636s | doesn't help him much in the long run in |
29638s | this matchup |
29644s | oh isn't gonna go Viper at least not yet |
29647s | there's I mean Viper is almost always |
29649s | gonna have use uh against this deck |
29652s | because there's also uh |
29655s | um |
29655s | there's a |
29657s | second one there's weapons expert that |
29659s | can pull a second one so maybe he just |
29661s | wants to get on board with pressure |
29664s | instead that makes sense and also leans |
29667s | into like the fact that he didn't totem |
29669s | means that very likely there's not going |
29672s | to be a target for the outrider's ax to |
29675s | swing into anyway so he can delay the |
29678s | Viper for next turn even if you know |
29680s | usually were to swing face without |
29682s | writer's ax that's not the important |
29683s | part for Gregorius is just denying the |
29685s | draw while getting pressure online |
29688s | it ate about average |
29696s | yeah |
29697s | well there is a clear Shield shot her |
29700s | swing it's not pretty but gotta do it I |
29704s | think |
29705s | wait |
29711s | oh it's uh yeah this one back to five |
29713s | damage right yeah went back to five yeah |
29715s | I was like wait a second ping pong and |
29718s | back and forth for so long I had to |
29720s | double check |
29722s | well even if it were at Fort location |
29724s | could have done that last damage I guess |
29729s | and this is all combo pieces essentially |
29732s | so gonna look for the actual support |
29734s | stuff |
29735s | from the depths |
29738s | which is you know I can't remember the |
29741s | exact order of Lucia's previous hand but |
29743s | there was a lot of combo pieces and |
29745s | rokara so he can get one of those early |
29747s | next turn yeah |
29751s | okay well we have mutinous picked up |
29755s | uh still a couple turns away but almost |
29759s | always gonna hit |
29760s | a high priority Target there's only a |
29763s | couple minions in the deck that |
29765s | aren't part of the combo |
29768s | um and one has already been played with |
29769s | sir Finley there's also the just the one |
29772s | copy of weapons expert which we now know |
29773s | is at the bottom of the deck or glorious |
29775s | does not know that of course there's a |
29776s | rush Rod Viper which is usually not |
29778s | going to stay in most times it's going |
29780s | to be there it's going to be traded away |
29782s | unless Lucia wants to specifically play |
29784s | around mutinous which coming to turn |
29786s | seven might be the case if it feels like |
29789s | he's in a tough spot |
29791s | Gregorius deliberately |
29794s | um skipping on viper again maybe because |
29796s | the ax is just down to one charge he'd |
29798s | rather try and kill off the second |
29800s | weapon |
29802s | um and instead just bend the Mana a bit |
29804s | more efficiently here so |
29806s | to the front gavanger and Battle Master |
29811s | so that to the front at zero could |
29814s | discount the Grumman faceless Grom with |
29818s | two location procs on it |
29822s | goes up to 14 attack |
29825s | which with faceless is still not lethal |
29827s | so probably ends up getting a different |
29829s | card oh my bad he did take them to the |
29831s | front |
29832s | okay |
29836s | you really only need the locations one |
29840s | charge for one turn so the rest of the |
29843s | time you can just use it as removal but |
29844s | oh that's a really nice pickup for |
29847s | Gregorius be able to draw through the |
29849s | deck nope clown fish picked up but |
29852s | that's okay and we'll overdraw at the |
29854s | end of a medium next turn but again also |
29857s | okay |
29859s | yeah we're still sitting on combo cards |
29862s | but not enough of them and so they're |
29865s | not really not a lot to do here the |
29867s | boner burn is a big deal if Gregorius |
29870s | were to eventually pick up macaw |
29872s | couldn't get the full value from it but |
29874s | as it happens mutinous for one Chomp is |
29876s | still very deadly here |
29883s | not afraid of Theo but are you afraid of |
29887s | one hungry boy |
29896s | uh what is this deck |
29900s | it's pretty oh geez |
29904s | okay |
29906s | uh |
29908s | has frozen buckler Shield cheddar combo |
29911s | but |
29913s | uh it you know Shaman's a deck that |
29915s | tends to just Pace out their threats so |
29918s | right |
29919s | um it's |
29922s | not really gonna be like that big board |
29924s | sweep like it would again so then that's |
29926s | a little bit faster |
29933s | still has you know enough redundancy of |
29936s | the combo the problem is all the other |
29938s | pieces are at the bottom of his deck |
29940s | yeah minions at least Grom is obviously |
29944s | the most expensive one to get |
29947s | um active and having lost a faceless |
29950s | there's just no way he's gonna deal 40 |
29951s | without some combination of at least two |
29955s | of those cards at the bottom of his deck |
29957s | so |
29959s | I don't know how he's just gonna survive |
29963s | um drawing another 10 to 11 cards yeah |
29966s | there's just no way to get down there I |
29968s | I mean |
29970s | and it's like multiple draws that are |
29972s | needed in order to get there you can |
29974s | draw like rakara into force and Flame |
29977s | right that's a draw engine but even then |
29980s | if those are exactly the next two draws |
29983s | you're still not at the bottom of your |
29985s | deck you're closer but you're still not |
29987s | at the bottom and if I recall the Recaro |
29989s | was in the hand that was fin lead so |
29991s | she's somewhere towards the bottom as it |
29994s | was you're absolutely right it sure was |
29998s | well that's a bummer |
30000s | it really is meanwhile gregoria is |
30003s | chugging along with these mid-ranged |
30005s | threats honestly any direct damage I |
30008s | would value so I really like that rock |
30009s | biter pick here just has to be careful |
30012s | to not over extend into second Shield |
30015s | shot her or brawl |
30017s | um there's still a decent amount of |
30019s | refill here mostly care of the amalgam |
30022s | uh but I guess the one way that he might |
30025s | lose here is if this board and the next |
30028s | Board gets clear then he just talk decks |
30030s | not enough pressure and Lucia gets a |
30032s | little bit more time |
30034s | yeah |
30035s | [Music] |
30037s | not the best pickups from the uh the |
30040s | amalgam I wouldn't have even hated it if |
30043s | uh Gregorius went for like a naga in |
30045s | that situation |
30047s | um is uh not gonna tend to have |
30050s | uh more value in the long run as |
30052s | individual cards unless he was |
30053s | specifically looking for muteness if he |
30056s | thinks that that's his best chance to |
30057s | win he would have done that but now the |
30058s | Sport's gonna get swept up uh good on |
30061s | East you have to be a little patient and |
30062s | take some damage in the interim because |
30064s | it paid off in spades |
30066s | yeah very big deal |
30069s | yeah either the Naga or even a beast |
30071s | pick or Elemental even all all of those |
30075s | yes |
30082s | oh would you rather take the to the |
30084s | front or the ground like that's a zero |
30086s | cost to the front so yeah |
30090s | um |
30091s | because he doesn't know what was in the |
30092s | Finley right yeah he doesn't so he might |
30096s | think that well he's seen three cards |
30098s | he's seen rolling just Grom he ate a |
30101s | faceless yeah |
30103s | okay so to the front it is yeah that'll |
30105s | severely limit the top end damage and |
30107s | he's fine with just dealing with a |
30108s | ground by itself yeah because he's at |
30111s | 40. I feel like that zero cost combo |
30113s | enabler is the scariest card overall |
30118s | um well that's the weapon with a fortune |
30121s | flame but he has |
30123s | severely lacking Health probably forced |
30125s | to brawl this turn |
30127s | yeah brawl and then just outrider's ax |
30130s | whatever comes out maybe with a |
30133s | oh you'd have to take a lot of damage if |
30134s | one of the four Health made it survives |
30136s | because he'd have to give it a tech |
30137s | first if you wanted to draw the card no |
30138s | no you could use the piranha never mind |
30139s | yeah yeah |
30141s | forgot that he had a piranha and he |
30145s | shouldn't know that uh there's not that |
30147s | much stuff |
30149s | I guess this is better anyway because |
30152s | you can still brawl at the end and then |
30153s | Toronto |
30155s | or just don't do any of it yeah |
30157s | I mean I didn't really get this order if |
30161s | he was gonna brawl because then |
30162s | something would get left on board still |
30164s | but if you're not gonna brawl that at |
30166s | all then sure yeah |
30171s | well he's at 26 facing down 15 on board |
30175s | including the weapon |
30179s | I mean how much Shenanigans can you do |
30182s | it to the front floor goal I mean you |
30185s | could play the entire hand of murlocs |
30186s | but it's not enough damage nor is it |
30188s | enough board space a lot yes it's not a |
30191s | board space if this board gets dealt |
30193s | with that's a plan |
30195s | pretty juicy plan yeah I mean look at |
30199s | this because there's another amalgam in |
30201s | there too yeah true true |
30203s | that's yeah if this board gets dealt |
30206s | with which it has to or else usually |
30208s | dies that's so much damage from struggle |
30212s | and there's a rock biter in the noggling |
30214s | too right right I was kind of interested |
30216s | in playing that this turn just because |
30219s | of board space again because Gregorius |
30221s | kind of wants this board to get swept up |
30224s | and then he wants to go and play all of |
30226s | her locks and get maximum face damage so |
30229s | yeah getting the Naga on the front half |
30232s | of that board seemed like a better idea |
30235s | we'll see |
30251s | from the depths there was galvangar and |
30254s | Battle Master oh there's the rokara |
30256s | third one okay okay so it can survive |
30260s | one more turn is in okay shape because |
30263s | that plus portion plane is quite good |
30273s | can he survive let's see um he'll go |
30276s | down to 16. |
30278s | he can double location and hero power |
30281s | true |
30287s | I think this dog is interesting because |
30289s | then it would freeze your glorious right |
30293s | yeah but wants to take off more power I |
30296s | guess |
30297s | against the wall all right we're at the |
30299s | bottom of the deck |
30303s | oh heavy plate okay that's huge |
30307s | oh it needs to keep one location to |
30309s | actually go for the the damage next turn |
30311s | right last card is galvingar |
30316s | 10 damage available to Gregory is still |
30319s | on board plus weapon which is not enough |
30323s | he needs 18 from hand which is nowhere |
30326s | near the oostia got there because that's |
30328s | enough damage right the galvagar is free |
30332s | yeah |
30335s | this is just reduced by both both from |
30337s | the depths plus the Battle Master |
30341s | faceless in the location yeah that's |
30343s | right |
30345s | um it's got to be he doesn't even need |
30346s | grum |
30348s | it's got to be amalgam into |
30350s | do you mind or or yeah |
30356s | some sort of disruption |
30360s | oh uh glug |
30363s | oh glug good point good point |
30366s | there's primordial wave which can |
30370s | evolve into a taunt Maybe |
30374s | gotta do it it's got to go for the |
30376s | primordial wave and hope that there's |
30377s | multiple taunts right |
30384s | well |
30388s | was that a misquick or was he going for |
30390s | Tanto oh man |
30391s | he he meant to primordial wave yeah oh |
30395s | my dick is sick what were we even |
30397s | talking about we're all crazy we're |
30399s | pretty so pretty it's the prettiest deck |
30402s | I've ever seen oh my goodness |
30405s | line |
30409s | what is he one-off |
30411s | no no he's got the hero power yeah |
30415s | galvangar |
30417s | it's 38 with hero Bauer |
30420s | no no it's way more than that because |
30421s | yeah because he has a location as well |
30423s | right |
30427s | yeah it's 38 with your power right |
30429s | I feel like it's more like it goes to |
30431s | nine you hero power it up to 11. yeah |
30436s | and |
30437s | you faceless 20 isn't it 44 with the |
30441s | oh yeah yeah you're right and then the |
30442s | hero power 46 even yeah wait does he |
30446s | even need I mean there might be a Grom |
30448s | solution as well but I don't know it's |
30450s | just been a lot of men I didn't want to |
30451s | look at this solution to the puzzle but |
30454s | if it works it works |
30462s | but it's enough it was way over it was |
30464s | way over you I didn't count the wind |
30465s | fury on the second one for some reason |
30467s | it was yeah |
30471s | 47 |
30474s | plus maybe her power is available so 49 |
30477s | damage I think was Max that turn with |
30481s | the faceless uh galvangar here here uh |
30484s | location |
30485s | that's 11 times 4 44 46. |
30490s | but I had counted as well but maybe |
30493s | there was some way to weave in the |
30495s | ground instead of something and go I |
30496s | mean either way because the ground was |
30498s | six Mana right yeah |
30500s | yeah no he did last yeah you were right |
30502s | 46. |
30504s | tons of damage well over lethal very |
30508s | pretty that is what matters |
30510s | you think I'm not a math doctor |
30516s | because all my math patients were gonna |
30518s | not be very healthy I mean just gotta |
30521s | switch to calling it maths and maybe |
30523s | maybe something changes there |
30526s | yeah so |
30528s | uh if there was one taunt spawned it |
30531s | wouldn't have been enough right |
30535s | um it had to be multitask it depends on |
30538s | the size of the tone if it's like two |
30540s | Health like the totem then he could hero |
30542s | power that and it'd still be enough |
30544s | yeah |
30547s | or if it killed if it was big enough to |
30549s | kill one of the which eight damage talk |
30552s | you're not getting that from a bunch of |
30553s | small murlocs right yes so it had to be |
30556s | multiple |
30557s | two or more small taunts |
30561s | and then if anything there was still a |
30562s | brawl in hand so Lucio could have just |
30564s | gone for a brawl |
30565s | and then done it the next turn |
30567s | true |
30569s | oh |
30570s | that was just amazing how quickly that |
30572s | turned on its head because it looked |
30574s | like Gregorius was super far ahead and I |
30577s | thought he had it in the back but |
30579s | um and we could nitpick I guess over |
30582s | extension on certain turns but there |
30584s | wasn't a turn where he didn't have good |
30586s | refill afterward it was just you see a |
30588s | finding armor at clutch points and being |
30591s | very patient about how he used his |
30593s | removal that got him to the point where |
30595s | that combo was still available very |
30597s | impressive stuff |
30598s | yeah |
30600s | being patient weren't necessary |
30603s | good all right on to the next one uh |
30607s | usually gonna be playing the mage |
30610s | double wildfire start that is amazing |
30618s | yeah I mean he's gonna run out of gas |
30619s | pretty quick but hey |
30624s | I mean depends if you believe you get |
30627s | the AI you hit the multicaster |
30630s | and then he hit the magistered on grasp |
30632s | that's why people are running 30 cards |
30635s | on this deck again |
30641s | themselves in the face at the beginning |
30642s | of the game |
30645s | all right not a bad hand for Gregorius |
30648s | either |
30649s | having dinner is in the opener is pretty |
30651s | decent for Shaman actually if you are |
30654s | able to not take too much damage by turn |
30656s | 10 it pretty much just seals the win |
30658s | condition because it's not just the |
30660s | denatures right it's the fact that you |
30662s | can macaw after it |
30669s | yeah it's like Shadow step emitter |
30672s | zevara coming just a little bit late to |
30675s | the party where she copies only one |
30677s | Wildfire but still very decent |
30679s | well that's when you get a cold case off |
30681s | the top |
30682s | uh-huh and then off the top at that you |
30685s | get an Arcane intellect or a solid alibi |
30689s | now you're thinking like a ping Mage TJ |
30691s | yeah |
30694s | okay |
30695s | um |
30698s | dig further with wind chills or |
30700s | something but something really followed |
30702s | up so |
30703s | play the disruption game predictable a |
30706s | bit painful to have to go for a spell |
30708s | they're over minion but I do agree it |
30710s | ends up being spelled because if he had |
30712s | blocked minion and then we still was |
30714s | like okay I'm in a Cold Case though |
30716s | Connie's already challenged on board |
30718s | oh |
30721s | what is that sound you mean DJ |
30728s | perfect cards and honestly like I I was |
30732s | thinking why not put the coin into the |
30733s | uh |
30734s | uh into the okani but this actually |
30737s | worked out better yeah it's got to play |
30739s | The Cold Case this turn and now instead |
30742s | of a potential flurry in the savara it's |
30744s | a coin which honestly |
30746s | could even be better than flurry uh |
30749s | unless there was like specifically one |
30751s | giant minion which doesn't outside of |
30754s | null into location right Nolan to muck |
30757s | pools |
30759s | um it doesn't happen that often so now |
30761s | it just gets to get all the aggressive |
30763s | cards I suppose you could say Cold Case |
30766s | being both aggressive and defensive |
30773s | well that makes for a perfect Reckless |
30776s | Apprentice |
30778s | yep |
30782s | gregorius's order I'm not completely |
30786s | sold on like I think he could have maybe |
30788s | attacked with okani into a skeleton |
30790s | before playing the |
30793s | um command of neptulon to potentially |
30795s | save more Health on his minions the high |
30797s | attack ones at least but if the |
30800s | intention was to prevent as much face |
30801s | damage as possible then the order was |
30803s | correct I just kind of thought the board |
30805s | was more relevant at this stage of the |
30807s | game |
30810s | foreign |
30817s | setting up for the mutinous Lucia could |
30820s | actually deal with this Savar gives coin |
30822s | and Wildfire right that's crazy the coin |
30825s | is super clutch here |
30827s | and this is all deliberate he threw the |
30830s | flurry in not the coin wanted the amount |
30832s | of flexibility and it comes in so clutch |
30835s | here |
30839s | still get a mutinous but no good targets |
30842s | yep |
30845s | oh man this is disaster this is brutal |
30850s | the one Saving Grace for Gregorius at |
30852s | the moment is it's just somewhat gassed |
30855s | out kind of depends what the dungeoneer |
30857s | gets okay that's an AI never mind not |
30859s | guest out |
30862s | gonna go sorcerer's Cold Case oh ping |
30865s | okay yeah it's four damage |
30873s | and the clock is ticking |
30877s | down on gregorius's health but he |
30880s | approaches the Nature's turn which helps |
30883s | him stabilize a lot |
30890s | and it'll be pretty well infused with |
30892s | all these piranhas |
30901s | trying to clear off the rest of the |
30902s | board okay well |
30906s | yeah and he said gassed out for for uh |
30910s | which you know hasn't been able to get |
30912s | the |
30913s | uh Frozen touches yet like rolling with |
30916s | all the Minions that he's had dying |
30919s | it was not terrible |
30921s | um |
30923s | I don't know if Reckless prayer is |
30924s | really necessary yeah I like the cold |
30925s | case a lot better here |
30927s | right it's just a bit awkward to have to |
30930s | leave the lifesteal minion up but being |
30933s | mana efficient also has its benefits and |
30935s | this is just more bored presence so like |
30938s | that |
30939s | oh no not the runneth all |
30944s | I wonder if it's worth playing some |
30947s | primordial wave turn here it's really |
30949s | awkward because the only value trade |
30952s | that cookie can take here peroxide |
30954s | deathrattle that he would have wanted to |
30956s | devolve anyway plus the actual death |
30958s | rattle on cookies kind of nice |
30962s | and so he's gonna do it this way and |
30965s | then primarily with Brenda |
30968s | and the time has come on |
30974s | I just feel so weak yeah |
30978s | no choice though |
30989s | okay |
30995s | [Music] |
30997s | yeah it's it was more about denying the |
31000s | death rattles from ustio's Minions I |
31003s | guess |
31004s | I'm just gonna load up the board but |
31006s | really is out of stuff now so dinastrius |
31009s | is in the teens |
31016s | yeah don't know how likely it is to |
31019s | actually clean up the board oh |
31021s | yeah this is actually surprisingly a lot |
31023s | of Health yeah |
31025s | this presents a weird dilemma though |
31027s | where if you did nothing is now it's |
31030s | very likely that you would have to |
31032s | replace this as the last Battle Cry you |
31034s | played right by going warlock ravager |
31037s | but at this point Gregorius cannot be |
31039s | greedy needed to stabilize |
31042s | um and there's a chance that he gets |
31043s | them a call off the top |
31045s | oh that's real rough |
31049s | he has to shattering blessed the did not |
31052s | restart using ping |
31055s | um |
31056s | it's only four Health gain he could just |
31059s | kill it but then the shattering boss |
31060s | isn't doing too much because there's |
31061s | only one flurry left I guess there's |
31064s | nightclub sanctums |
31065s | this might be the best Target to do it |
31067s | you might be right yeah |
31076s | it doesn't feel good |
31077s | you've entered a weird stage where both |
31080s | our players |
31081s | have sort of negated each other's mid |
31084s | game and we're in a bit of a top deck |
31086s | battle now obviously Gregorius has more |
31088s | resources thanks to the gorlock |
31093s | but I think we're at a stage where he |
31095s | once wants to copy not murlocs with |
31098s | amalgam |
31099s | so I like just going Muk pool Wild bar |
31102s | here and if you have the elemental |
31104s | survive maybe go for that as the amalgam |
31106s | Target yeah |
31110s | foreign |
31128s | as well |
31131s | okay there's an AI |
31135s | oh these are not great this Magister Don |
31138s | grasp is in the bottom nine and so is |
31140s | more dress |
31141s | so are both Frozen touches oh my gosh |
31151s | it has no Reckless apprentices left both |
31154s | of those have been used |
31161s | so weird I feel like if Gregorius sees |
31164s | that ostia's turns have been |
31166s | low impact into low impact as he meant |
31169s | to just ignore theater for now I feel |
31171s | like that's a decent way to go about it |
31174s | yeah lily pad |
31176s | next to her uh I mean maybe it's just |
31180s | menacing them both |
31182s | value is value |
31183s | it's also just another Battle Cry that |
31186s | you can play this term okay it's gonna |
31188s | go for a theater for Bad Manners |
31191s | and yeah not particularly good options |
31194s | but probably just take the Don grass |
31198s | that are solid alibi |
31202s | they are doing very similar things I |
31206s | tend to just maybe take the one that |
31208s | creates board space issues |
31215s | clownfish yeah okay okay he did take |
31219s | Alibi though |
31220s | oh clog |
31222s | I guess The Alibi has more utility for |
31225s | Gregorius in the future |
31237s | still both Frozen touch in the bottom |
31239s | we're gonna get to a point where Lucy's |
31240s | not gonna have any minions to |
31243s | Infuse yeah if you use the Frozen |
31246s | touches dungeoneers played this will |
31249s | happen both cold cases unless one is |
31251s | replayed from the Magister Don grasp if |
31254s | it ever gets picked up |
31256s | uh all the small stuff has been played |
31258s | as well or at least most of it both |
31260s | shipping sources both amplex snow |
31262s | flurries |
31264s | it has to get rid of the boulder just |
31266s | because right how much value it imposes |
31269s | but |
31271s | Golf Club |
31272s | a very unfortunate way the deck's been |
31275s | stacked for ustia |
31277s | but still has plenty of damage from the |
31281s | Pig and the more Josh coming up so not |
31283s | all hope lost yet glorious able to push |
31287s | eight damage face here |
31289s | the primordial protector |
31292s | uh spells left is there one more command |
31296s | the elements |
31300s | I think so I'm gonna double check real |
31303s | quick |
31305s | it's the good way of spending Mana I |
31307s | guess |
31309s | foreign |
31326s | left yep right and there's a primordial |
31329s | wave that could be uh either or in terms |
31332s | of spells |
31334s | yeah the BART space like you said is a |
31336s | bit scary I mean the summon would fit |
31338s | but he saw the Don graspin head so maybe |
31341s | he doesn't want to play up to seven |
31343s | minions never mind he did |
31345s | murloc homes is Great Value okay |
31354s | okay card draw finally |
31357s | seven cards left but it needs the dawn |
31361s | grasp and more dress now so |
31367s | my calculations |
31371s | okay at this point it might just fatigue |
31375s | yeah to replay AI |
31378s | foreign |
31382s | nothing else to do yep yep |
31392s | and that makes the more Josh really |
31394s | unappealing on this turn Ken probably |
31397s | got away with flurrying |
31400s | or playing his own alibi |
31404s | trade first very smart to give himself |
31407s | the best chance of getting Frozen touch |
31408s | to be infused |
31413s | foreign |
31425s | it's super weird the dilemma here |
31427s | because you kind of want to immediately |
31429s | Infuse the Frozen touches so you can |
31431s | spend your Mana but all this damage |
31433s | that's being sent into minions is like |
31435s | damage that could have gotten face as |
31437s | well yeah |
31441s | so he is going for something of a middle |
31445s | ground freezing all the board except for |
31449s | the one that he traded away yeah |
31457s | and board space continues to be a huge |
31459s | problem for Gregorius who he can use |
31461s | that last charge of location to evolve |
31463s | something and be able to play all three |
31465s | piranhas |
31476s | yeah sixes are just terrible like every |
31480s | six we've seen has been just absolutely |
31482s | terrible assistant |
31486s | been much better |
31496s | I trade away and play Glock I guess |
31502s | uh maybe not that's even worse than |
31504s | tomorrow but everything is bad into more |
31506s | trash that's the thing |
31508s | go murloc homes but it's running out of |
31510s | time |
31512s | and random clicks would have a better |
31514s | accuracy rate than mine on verlocker |
31518s | foreign |
31522s | [Music] |
31530s | oh my goodness |
31533s | that's |
31535s | not enough oh wait that's lethal |
31538s | oh we know it's four is that one yeah |
31541s | but I mean it's effectively lethal if |
31544s | gregories can't do anything enough on |
31546s | tanmana |
31547s | yeah ah well it looks like Gregorius was |
31550s | making a a push to come back but uh |
31555s | you get to that point as shaman |
31558s | and you say to yourself well now what |
31560s | like my still at like 30 health I have |
31564s | maybe 15 damage on board |
31566s | even if even if that board wasn't Frozen |
31568s | it like what what do you do there's just |
31571s | not enough damage nothing in hand that |
31573s | can disrupt the Matthews had already |
31575s | been used other battle cries had already |
31577s | been played uh in terms of macaw |
31581s | um just uh wasn't good enough that's |
31583s | without dawn grasp that's without a |
31585s | single Frozen touch used in the entire |
31588s | entire game that's just straight up |
31589s | Indian damage and pings |
31591s | very impressive stuff I mean that's the |
31594s | power of getting wildfires early even a |
31596s | third one from the savara I missed that |
31599s | little flourish that Lucia did when you |
31600s | played the Marge rash big fan |
31603s | [Music] |
31604s | and here we are on his last deck now |
31608s | this is less of a |
31610s | I mean you can still treat this as a |
31612s | combo deck but it has way more of a |
31614s | board-oriented game plan than the other |
31617s | two that he had played previously which |
31619s | changes the interactions for Shaman um |
31622s | there's also the wild paw Cavern being |
31625s | very important disruption tool here to |
31628s | prevent Draka from getting too much |
31630s | damage in turn after turn but it is |
31633s | really tough for Shaman to deal with the |
31635s | big stealth minions from the Rogue |
31637s | location |
31643s | yeah it's kind of like a in between of |
31646s | shark Rogue and black Tempo Draka Rogue |
31652s | um that's right oh wow okay |
31656s | this version he is playing |
31659s | both um frostable four master and the |
31662s | scribbling stenographer one Sinister |
31664s | strike hits a lot |
31669s | what so you said he did something right |
31671s | at the mordrush a lot what was it |
31674s | I think |
31676s | it was just some hand gesture oh okay |
31679s | like finger guns type of thing oh yeah |
31681s | yeah okay |
31683s | he's just loving he's loving Hearthstone |
31686s | right now |
31696s | yeah got that graveyard man I spent into |
31699s | Sprint next turn into go for a big combo |
31703s | most likely |
31710s | Gregorius does have the restaurant Viper |
31713s | if it's Draka but like I said the big |
31716s | stealth minions are the the big |
31718s | Brett alongside it right |
31723s | oh Connie here very disruptive or |
31727s | theater oh theater okay okay |
31732s | that's fair he has seen that Uso still |
31735s | has a coin so there's no excuse for Bad |
31739s | Manners oh Sprint yep |
31742s | oh maybe a Malcolm yeah |
31750s | the plan is ruined |
31753s | um tooth to get some sort of card draw |
31758s | Maybe |
31763s | I don't have a better plan |
31767s | yeah nothing in the deck even has a uh |
31770s | a minion type |
31772s | how come amalgam isn't an imp |
31778s | that's actually a great question |
31783s | probably still take oh I was gonna say |
31785s | probably still end up taking that oh you |
31788s | can amalgam |
31791s | oh amalgament murloc yeah it's the only |
31795s | thing you can amalgam in the deck |
31796s | nothing else has a minion type but is |
31798s | that better than drawing an actual card |
31800s | from the deck I don't know |
31809s | well he did dredge |
31812s | which |
31815s | is like weird to evaluate how much |
31817s | better that is than drawing a card |
31819s | because you get more options |
31821s | but you're not immediately cycling |
31824s | through the deck in any case it did get |
31826s | him a shroud so that's something |
31837s | I mean this is a pretty exciting board |
31840s | push oh tiny fin |
31842s | you can play all this stuff but not |
31844s | Draka right I guess it's not worth it |
31851s | uh what were the other dredge options |
31854s | I don't recall sorry yeah I was I was |
31857s | looking at the uh I was looking to see I |
31860s | I had no idea if Frost wolf War Master |
31862s | had a mini type or not |
31865s | it's an orc |
31873s | I am rewinding the other options for |
31875s | Cutlass and gone fishing okay |
31878s | not great if it was if Lucy had seen |
31882s | like Sprint at the bottom maybe it'd be |
31884s | worth it so then you could just try and |
31885s | like I go through the deck and go for |
31887s | like the biggest |
31892s | ever but |
31899s | minion counter countered by murloc tiny |
31902s | Finn |
31903s | not really |
31910s | oh this is not quite enough stuff is it |
31912s | no it's not especially with the minion |
31915s | counter |
31922s | wait what did that make the |
31923s | stenographers go down a cost but not the |
31925s | frasso |
31929s | it looked like it ah I'm confused |
31935s | yeah because they both have this in text |
31937s | each card you played this turn uh-huh |
31943s | which means he can play all the minions |
31946s | and |
31947s | got decent locations off but Draka not |
31951s | playable in the same turn |
31962s | oh yeah the board space also just |
31963s | becomes oh no yeah oh no |
31969s | the trade the amalgam first to create |
31971s | board space uh he I think he did it |
31974s | intentionally because the ghost is |
31976s | afford more and the sonographer is also |
31977s | a 4-4 he'd only have space for one of |
31979s | them |
31982s | maybe I don't know maybe I'm wrong but |
31984s | um |
31986s | I don't know that was just tough to |
31988s | evaluate that's like he wanted to clear |
31990s | the board and if he had summoned a goat |
31993s | two ghosts they both would have been |
31995s | four fours |
31996s | but he wouldn't have cleared off the uh |
31999s | Cavern |
32000s | bag huh I don't know |
32005s | yeah a bit of a strange one I thought |
32007s | the turn would have ended with just like |
32009s | not activating one location or maybe not |
32012s | playing one stenographer but |
32014s | um in any case this is still quite a lot |
32018s | of pressure and Gregorius currently |
32020s | doesn't have a good answer for it |
32025s | one draw of famish pool |
32029s | oh |
32035s | that's problematic |
32050s | good old slug filter but a little bit |
32054s | more powerful yeah |
32057s | that's an excellent card name |
32067s | all the value trades here |
32078s | 20 damage on board |
32082s | if he goes clown fish gorlock |
32085s | and gets flurgal amalga it's all |
32089s | playable in one turn |
32092s | right oh no wait it's one Mana too much |
32103s | and last battle cryblade was just the |
32105s | famish fool from last turn right |
32110s | take a look at the damage that's left in |
32112s | deck from |
32114s | Lucia it's just one tooth |
32118s | uh I suppose like a shadow step on Draka |
32123s | could be damaged assuming that's if |
32125s | Gregorius doesn't |
32126s | freeze the face |
32129s | oh he actually got just straight murlocs |
32132s | from England it was basically oh my gosh |
32135s | a Garlock for cheaper what |
32138s | that's insane okay so that clears off |
32142s | all the Minions in the middle plus the |
32143s | one on the side after the trade from the |
32146s | Stag |
32149s | ger you have to get to get rid of a |
32152s | shadow step possibility true |
32158s | oh no it's falling apart Roost yeah that |
32161s | was such a clutch Sprint |
32166s | keep up the impression but you can still |
32168s | get a decent location trigger |
32172s | yeah |
32175s | and the stealth on these minions is not |
32177s | to be sniffed at but I think it was just |
32179s | forced to clear off the floor goal |
32181s | meaning -4 damage face |
32186s | oh geez |
32190s | there's just nothing left in the deck |
32194s | this is the last location proc |
32197s | can tooth get anything I guess you could |
32200s | like tooth in the room |
32202s | I guess |
32206s | you have to have a two targeters though |
32208s | which |
32209s | Gregorius once he realizes he has |
32211s | cleared everything off may just make it |
32213s | so that there's no tooth Target ever |
32217s | now this Groupon pretty much just seals |
32220s | it usia is going to throw it down and |
32222s | Gregorius has finally gotten a win on |
32225s | the board |
32228s | it's seasonal Championship you play for |
32231s | the tooth out |
32233s | foreign |
32236s | who is dead over two if it was tooth |
32238s | into roon you need two turns to do that |
32240s | and I think it was done before that |
32243s | uh tooth into |
32253s | there's got to be something to you |
32258s | yeah I don't know um |
32264s | it's mine it's fine |
32267s | oh it is not fine you're right it's the |
32270s | quest priest coming out the plate oh |
32273s | geez dude that's why you play for the |
32275s | tooth out |
32277s | [Music] |
32280s | saved us from the quest priest okay |
32282s | Quest priest it is it is this is the |
32286s | uh tried and true standard version of |
32290s | quest priests if you want to call it |
32292s | that like if there is a standard version |
32295s | uh |
32296s | this is very much close to it maybe a |
32299s | little bit more value oriented for a |
32301s | while players weren't playing |
32303s | identity theft |
32306s | um |
32306s | but |
32308s | um it's in there now so |
32311s | it does give you some extra oomph maybe |
32315s | some wind conditions that you wouldn't |
32317s | otherwise have and a game where you're |
32319s | not even playing towards the quest |
32322s | right and the wind conditioner gun |
32325s | stroke is definitely not playing towards |
32328s | the quest you don't need that to win you |
32329s | just gotta remove all their stuff one by |
32331s | one and that is very much doable for a |
32334s | quest priests they have tons of answers |
32336s | for these stealth minions Shadow word |
32338s | ruin sometimes clean the scene can sweep |
32341s | everything up they can silence things |
32343s | that get a little bit too scary and |
32347s | I forgot to see if there's a Viper in |
32350s | the list for drakka let me take a look |
32353s | there's none |
32355s | but you can put taunts in the way |
32363s | okay |
32366s | I always just said he was not afraid of |
32368s | the atar and you know that courage was |
32372s | well placed for the first two games it |
32374s | did kind of uh mess up his game plan |
32377s | last game but we'll see if that happens |
32380s | again here |
32381s | kept Quest |
32384s | yeah it's still cycling cards |
32387s | you don't need the end reward but it's |
32390s | still pretty good to Discover Cards from |
32392s | your deck for the midpoint Rewards |
32394s | yeah but you get one extra card in your |
32396s | Mulligan and you probably only have time |
32398s | to to discover one card |
32401s | that's if you do I don't know |
32406s | I feel like there's no other one drop |
32408s | you'd want to play on one anyway and if |
32411s | you just do that and get the one |
32412s | Discover it already replaces itself with |
32414s | potential upside for later on so |
32417s | I think it's fine |
32422s | under spell is a very good secret to get |
32427s | even if none of these spells are |
32429s | particularly essential to ustia even |
32432s | having to toss one away |
32434s | for testing purposes |
32437s | means one less charge on a Draka turn |
32439s | potentially |
32445s | And Delay Sprint by a whole turn |
32458s | Drake gonna blow up his own sketchy |
32461s | stranger but keep the curve going yep |
32464s | Quest completion part one |
32470s | light shower |
32473s | and Whirlpool Focus but yeah I think |
32475s | light shower |
32481s | run run run |
32488s | this is a bit of an awkward hand for us |
32491s | just still right because yeah the shadow |
32495s | step is a little bit stranded backstab |
32498s | only has one target currently and he |
32500s | doesn't have the hand space to play |
32501s | another Sprint so you might have to take |
32503s | another turn off by trading the |
32505s | cutlasses which feels like such a huge |
32509s | delay |
32510s | a mailbox dancer would open up his hand |
32512s | considerably right a mailbox dancer |
32515s | would be it's go time mailbox dancer |
32517s | Shadow State mailbox dancer coin coin |
32519s | the black backstab play everything right |
32522s | so |
32524s | uh it's just a one and eight at this |
32526s | point though |
32531s | all this identity theft gets |
32535s | the confession I think is fine to keep |
32538s | cycling |
32541s | let's say unless he wants to spam his |
32543s | hand to play stenographer this turn |
32547s | I'm the miracle Rogue now yeah I'm gonna |
32550s | spend all these cards for no reason just |
32552s | so I can get a 4-4 on the board when I |
32555s | already have a four four |
32558s | I do like the shadow where Drew and pick |
32560s | even though he's already played a |
32563s | forecast card this is just a lot cheaper |
32565s | to remove stealth minions than Whirlpool |
32568s | would be and I don't think it was just |
32570s | in a position where he can afford to |
32572s | keep the stealth minions under five |
32574s | attack they're just not that threatening |
32576s | at that point |
32577s | yeah |
32579s | if he goes packs that bone Spike |
32585s | not enough to play both the minions and |
32587s | Draka |
32589s | foreign |
32609s | cards in hand |
32610s | oh can't spread |
32618s | it just gonna go Draco without the |
32621s | additional minions I guess |
32623s | then stop her for next turn fair enough |
32636s | fix attack |
32641s | still dead to Shadow bird ruin |
32645s | yeah and an infused clean the scene if |
32647s | it were there |
32650s | oh it looks like what this is gonna be |
32653s | Sprint next turn and then just go for |
32655s | the biggest draca ever on |
32659s | the following turn on turn eight |
32662s | thanks |
32664s | the jocka is really his main win |
32666s | condition here because the um stealth |
32670s | minions kinda expects those to get swept |
32672s | up yeah |
32674s | I do like that shadow stuff and draw her |
32676s | game plan it's |
32677s | taking a while but it's really the best |
32680s | Avenue he has to Victory because the |
32683s | weapon is the one thing Gregorius can't |
32685s | necessarily play around very well |
32696s | okay so Thrive could get what like |
32701s | Whirlpool to deal with the second wave |
32703s | of ghosts |
32705s | um |
32705s | yeah |
32710s | okay |
32711s | yeah |
32713s | it said he didn't pick up Sarah now that |
32715s | he has prayer but of course he couldn't |
32717s | have known |
32722s | all right print it is |
32727s | there's a mailbox dancer |
32731s | oh It's gotta be this turn right |
32734s | dancer step dancer |
32740s | oh that's right |
32743s | coin coin |
32748s | don't spike your own Minion |
32751s | yeah |
32758s | oh another uh mailbox answer that just |
32762s | pays for half of itself which is still |
32765s | enough to play Chaka |
32769s | you can backstab and Bone Spike but play |
32773s | the stenographer before the bone Spike |
32777s | and then Draka |
32779s | and that's a huge weapon 12 attack okay |
32784s | in bone Spike I guess wants to preserve |
32786s | the board like basically telling |
32789s | Gregorius you need to both deal with the |
32792s | board and heal from this weapon |
32794s | would you like like you said cyrilla |
32796s | would have been pretty good for that but |
32799s | I think Gregorius was more worried about |
32800s | the ghost than like a board full of |
32803s | small stuff |
32806s | but pretty powerful turn gets both coins |
32809s | from the mailbox dancer |
32810s | kind of why I liked killing off the |
32812s | mailbox dancers because it did uh |
32814s | we're going to be added gregoris would |
32816s | have burned a car and the second point |
32817s | would have been denied because the hand |
32818s | would have been full |
32823s | uh prep kind of bad at this point |
32827s | he needs |
32829s | more damage from the tooth because |
32830s | Gregorius is gonna go up to 28 again |
32833s | from the stat throttle |
32840s | hmm |
32842s | um |
32848s | probably just max damage lightning bolt |
32850s | I don't think there's really many Rogues |
32852s | I'm trying to think of Rogue spells |
32856s | like a wicked stop oh we could stab yeah |
32859s | yeah we'll get stabbed Sinister strike |
32861s | but there's so many like |
32863s | garbage Rogue spells carrots oh that's a |
32869s | throwback |
32873s | okay |
32876s | you have plenty of damage here and |
32879s | Gregorius is currently out of ways to |
32881s | deal with the stealth minion yeah |
32888s | drive for |
32891s | ruin |
32893s | oh light bomb light bomb |
32897s | and he can prayer himself up out of the |
32901s | range of the dagger |
32907s | oh |
32910s | my God |
32913s | and girl it's not gonna even be enough |
32917s | I mean one it wouldn't even be enough |
32920s | even if all three bleeds were off the |
32922s | top right they're all too blue six |
32925s | damage Max now can he adore a bleed |
32929s | oh I mean it just draws it so it's not |
32932s | infused so it's not actually getting |
32934s | attempt coffee is there |
32936s | there's a tooth left in the deck oh |
32939s | bleed |
32941s | gone fishing gone fishing for a tooth |
32947s | oh if there are minions left this little |
32948s | girl there's a stenographer or warm |
32951s | Master left and a sonographers is |
32952s | guaranteed what the |
32957s | oh my goodness the garage for the extra |
32960s | six damage so close babe |
32964s | [Music] |
32968s | TJ |
32972s | that's insane yes |
32975s | I think he did the math that just going |
32978s | for straight up three damage was not |
32981s | enough in the long run and the Mana was |
32983s | there to play Mark shot and still get |
32985s | the Sinister strike and it was insane I |
32988s | was thinking Wicked stab would be the |
32989s | most damage he could get from a singular |
32991s | Rogue spell but he would not have been |
32994s | at 10 Mana by the point that he got |
32996s | lethal right so it was only four whereas |
32997s | garage was the sixth that he needed to |
33000s | get enough damage yeah I was thinking |
33003s | like oh there's got to be a bunch of |
33004s | garbage rope spells but there's not like |
33006s | even if you get like I don't know I feel |
33008s | like you said Wicked stab another tooth |
33011s | like jackpot reconnaissance |
33015s | that like that could have you know |
33016s | reconnaissance could end up giving you a |
33018s | Tyrion which you know gives you that |
33020s | extra reach right right |
33022s | um |
33024s | uh yoink |
33026s | on our hero power I don't know I guess |
33031s | yeah all of these are options but I |
33034s | think it's uniquely garage that could |
33036s | actually give him the lethal on that |
33038s | very same turn yeah the rest gives |
33042s | priests Windows to heal more press the |
33044s | hero power or just pull some of their |
33045s | healing spells so huge jackpot and tarun |
33048s | Gia it was terrified that was the out |
33051s | actually it wasn't garad |
33053s | it's not the out even though he |
33056s | literally won with no it wasn't the out |
33059s | no everyone would have done that plus a |
33061s | million more right Moon would have done |
33063s | it's a bigger out fair enough fair |
33065s | enough yeah but they're much bigger he |
33068s | would have waited a turn Gregorius would |
33069s | have healed the bunch so it would have |
33071s | been it would have felt more impactful |
33073s | uh than the garage so it would have been |
33075s | prettier |
33076s | it would have been prettier There You Go |
33078s | full circle full circle |
33081s | um but Lucia uh not afraid of the |
33084s | theater and he's right because the atar |
33086s | did a lot of work in that series he was |
33088s | theater in every game of that of that |
33091s | series and yeah you're right pretty a |
33095s | pretty impactful card stolen in each |
33098s | game the only one that you can make an |
33099s | argument for against that would be solid |
33101s | Alibi right |
33104s | um but it was like what uh fate or to |
33107s | the front in the Warrior game still won |
33109s | it was Sprint this on curve Sprint in |
33112s | that game still won |
33114s | um obviously it wasn't the best card |
33115s | that you could steal with the atar but |
33117s | it was still good so you know never be |
33119s | afraid of theater we learned a lesson |
33120s | here |
33124s | um sure I don't know if I'll take that |
33126s | away from it but certainly ustia has the |
33128s | right to continue saying he is not |
33130s | afraid of the atarias one more win away |
33134s | from making it through to tomorrow very |
33137s | very impressive stuff whereas for |
33139s | Gregorius not all hope is lost yet he'll |
33142s | be going down to the elimination match |
33144s | later on |
33146s | yeah gonna be going up against uh spring |
33148s | and uh usually will be going up against |
33151s | xmgs that should be interesting it's a |
33153s | the combo lineup versus pretty much |
33156s | straight aggro uh which should be an |
33159s | exciting one because not traditional |
33161s | Como does have the warrior which might |
33162s | be able to be a little bit better |
33163s | against Agro but alas uh that one's |
33166s | gonna be coming up next the winners |
33167s | match is going to be coming up next |
33169s | between usia and xmg so we're gonna go |
33172s | to a quick break before we jump into |
33174s | that one uh while we get the uh the |
33176s | players set up and ready but don't go |
33179s | anywhere more action to come here from |
33180s | the fall championship |
33182s | right after this |
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33798s | welcome back everyone to the Hearthstone |
33800s | Masters thought fall Championship |
33802s | approaching the end of the day but we |
33805s | still have yet to send anyone from Group |
33807s | D group to the quarter finals and we got |
33811s | the fun job of sending one of those |
33812s | players through right now in the winners |
33814s | bracket so while the loser is not out of |
33817s | the running they still will have one |
33819s | more chance down in the decider match |
33821s | they could just put all of those doubts |
33824s | to rest with a swift win here and one |
33827s | way or the other subtle I do have the |
33828s | suspicion this might be quite a swift |
33830s | series |
33832s | you would think so yes as has been my |
33835s | want throughout the day it appears I am |
33837s | once again back on aggro duty as the the |
33840s | aggro Druid the wig priest uh all coming |
33842s | back out into play uh usta's lineup I |
33845s | mean who knows what what shaped hole you |
33848s | want to try and squeeze this into there |
33850s | is some absolute nonsense going on in |
33853s | these deck lists but count it out as at |
33856s | your peril as Gregorius found out in the |
33858s | previous series you know tweeting some |
33860s | shade about the lineup and then |
33861s | unfortunately being made to eat his |
33864s | words as it is ustia here in the winners |
33867s | match but xmg looked so clean so |
33870s | clinical on these aggro decks in the |
33872s | previous series particularly just the |
33874s | the word tenacity I suppose of his wig |
33876s | priest performance being able to stay in |
33878s | a game that looked like he was being |
33879s | shut out or by oh yeah the Paladin aoes |
33882s | very very nicely played overall and it |
33884s | is going to be that weak priest that |
33885s | he's going to kick things off again once |
33887s | more |
33889s | and so if we kind of look in a |
33891s | a zoomed out perspective at the matchup |
33894s | of archetypes as a whole of Agra vs |
33896s | combo uh I feel like combo decks in |
33898s | general in Hearthstone are usually |
33900s | either very good or very bad against |
33902s | aggro there's often very little wiggle |
33905s | room where sometimes they're essentially |
33906s | anti-agro decks but with a combo tact on |
33909s | and sometimes they are full combo decks |
33911s | with no removal at all uh where do you |
33913s | think ustia comes down uh on that half |
33916s | of the dichotomy there yeah it's so |
33919s | certainly difficult to know for sure |
33921s | obviously boar priest against some of |
33923s | these decks will do fairly well if he's |
33926s | a as adeptable priest player as he |
33927s | should be to be bringing ball priests to |
33929s | this tournament uh the warrior same sort |
33931s | of deal you feel like that has enough |
33933s | about it with the uh with the aoes it |
33936s | has available with the shield chatter |
33938s | combo with the brawl with the weapon |
33939s | removal everything it needs to be able |
33940s | to pick things apart you know not to |
33942s | mention the ability to use some of these |
33943s | charge minions just to affect the board |
33945s | as well as needs be but you are right in |
33948s | the it's not quite that simple like the |
33951s | classic aggro control combo mid-range |
33954s | interactions that are kind of well known |
33956s | throughout multiple card games |
33958s | just aren't often the case you know you |
33960s | look at all the way back to something |
33961s | like patreon Warrior for example one of |
33962s | the best anti-aggro decks we have ever |
33964s | had in Hearthstone just because of how |
33966s | Lord the you know the supplementary |
33968s | pieces actually end up interacting with |
33969s | aggro decks and the board swings that |
33971s | you can create and that's what ustia is |
33973s | going to be need to gonna need to look |
33975s | for I should say in these matchups is |
33977s | creative ways to turn combo pieces into |
33981s | alternate win conditions because it |
33982s | might not necessarily be the actual |
33984s | combos that end up winning the game in |
33986s | some of these decks that's what he's |
33987s | going to have to look out for |
33990s | kind of an interesting deck here in |
33992s | charge Warrior uh as I've seen it a few |
33995s | times on ladder and I I do have to say |
33999s | every time I see it I am surprised I |
34002s | don't see it more because I think the |
34004s | real hidden |
34006s | um Tech that really makes this deck pop |
34008s | is the location sanguine depth offering |
34011s | you so much more capability and |
34014s | flexibility in your combo being able to |
34016s | bank that Mana for plus two plus four |
34018s | plus eight damage sometimes if you get |
34020s | the win Fury and the copying effect yeah |
34022s | I think really does open up the uh as I |
34025s | said the flexibility of the combo which |
34028s | is what this deck traditionally has been |
34030s | lacking I would say there are a lot of |
34032s | cards in the deck that are strict combo |
34035s | pieces they do absolutely nothing to |
34037s | interact with the board whatsoever which |
34038s | is uh as you say where it differs from |
34040s | Patron Warrior decks like that where all |
34043s | the combo pieces were also fantastic |
34044s | removal options and that's it that's why |
34047s | this location fits like a glove right |
34048s | because we saw this a bunch of times |
34050s | don't feel like there's like a whole |
34051s | season of grand Masters if that's |
34053s | actually what it was where whenever it |
34055s | showed up we just saw the same draw over |
34057s | and over again to the front to the front |
34059s | faceless manipulator Galvan guard just |
34061s | queuing into the ham one by one just not |
34063s | drawing anything else and the difference |
34065s | is you can't spend your mana on those |
34067s | cards you can't just put them on the |
34068s | board on turn five and spend five mana |
34070s | on them or whatever whereas whenever you |
34071s | draw the location you can pretty much |
34073s | just throw it on the board and then |
34074s | that's done at that point right and you |
34076s | don't have to worry about it so it is a |
34078s | much more flexible piece than some of |
34080s | those others but as we can see things |
34082s | are off to a flying start for the wig |
34085s | priest on the other side nice aggressive |
34087s | opening which is what he will look for |
34089s | but crucially now that Shield shatter |
34092s | has been found which will give the MD at |
34096s | least USTA CMD which half of the name |
34098s | are we going with because I promise you |
34099s | it's not all of it |
34101s | uh either way it's gonna give him the |
34104s | little window he might need to find a |
34106s | way through this I'm gonna go with ustia |
34108s | we've got enough three-letter acronym |
34110s | names knocking about already with kzg |
34112s | xmg on the other side as well that's the |
34115s | thing I do quite like the Cadence of xmg |
34117s | versus CMD though you know it just |
34118s | sounds kind of nice |
34123s | all right there goes the shield chatter |
34124s | wave one is dealt with but if xmg showed |
34127s | us anything in the previous series it's |
34129s | that it's wave seven or eight that |
34131s | you're gonna have to worry about with |
34132s | this deck with the way he's capable of |
34133s | playing it quite right and the shield |
34136s | chatter specifically having gone down is |
34139s | a |
34140s | very very crucial piece of information |
34142s | for xmg to have because in this matchup |
34146s | you constantly you constantly want to be |
34148s | threatening that you can pop off but |
34150s | never doing so until you're sure that |
34153s | you can win the game the next turn and |
34155s | so having like what that often looks |
34157s | like is you have two or three Minions on |
34159s | the board maybe a treasure guard that |
34161s | has high Health but it's not actually |
34162s | doing much right now in this instance he |
34165s | knows that those kinds of boards are |
34167s | actually very likely to stick and so he |
34169s | can afford I think to play fairly |
34172s | defensively not pop off too heavily but |
34175s | in this instance he does actually make a |
34177s | pretty aggressive push for the board |
34178s | which I wasn't expecting so quickly but |
34180s | I think this is the best way to do it if |
34182s | you're going to right two individually |
34185s | strong minions because then you're |
34187s | removing Brawl for example from the |
34188s | equation you're making just a terrible |
34190s | card so I do think this is the kind of |
34192s | board you want to be making if you're |
34194s | going to push fairly aggressively and I |
34195s | do also like ustia's response uh |
34198s | harkening back to exactly what I was |
34200s | saying right you have to find a way to |
34202s | make those combo pieces sing for you in |
34204s | ways that aren't just ending the game in |
34206s | these kinds of matchups and that's |
34208s | exactly what he goes ahead and does |
34209s | there with the uh the faceless |
34211s | manipulator |
34213s | those decide to buff up the taunt |
34215s | minion the carrion instead of the raid |
34219s | in Elemental which I wasn't entirely |
34221s | sure if you'd go that way because you'd |
34223s | obviously like to keep the radiant alive |
34224s | but the taunt can now be attacked into |
34228s | by weapons by rakara itself uh very |
34231s | importantly and I don't know like |
34234s | leaving a radiant Elemental at four or |
34236s | so Health felt fairly alike but either |
34240s | way you can get it to above six Health |
34242s | five Health here which is a pretty big |
34244s | breakpoint yeah that's the real Crux of |
34246s | the issue right is actually weirdly |
34248s | whichever minion you buff is going to |
34249s | end up with less Health right because |
34250s | it's the one that you can use to trade |
34252s | into the minion and since this is six |
34254s | and not five uh I think I agree this is |
34256s | the right way to go not to mention of |
34258s | course the card execute which is the |
34260s | opponent's deck which is the big big |
34262s | reason not to put damage onto that |
34264s | radiant Elemental since you would have |
34266s | to trade into the tournament with your |
34267s | buff minion well you wouldn't have to |
34268s | but the trades the other way around |
34269s | would be atrocious and you really don't |
34271s | want to do that |
34273s | foreign |
34280s | he's getting the really nice combo of |
34284s | forged uh in Flames plus the weapon to |
34287s | get these card draw effects rolling |
34288s | still chooses to go for it oh sorry I |
34291s | thought he's gonna go for it there |
34292s | despite having drawn from the depth he's |
34293s | pointing out the hero power which I did |
34296s | not anticipate |
34305s | hmm |
34306s | well |
34308s | a bad drawer I suppose doesn't quite fit |
34312s | into what you're trying to do this turn |
34313s | I think |
34316s | oh wow other wig I thought he might try |
34320s | again to find bless because this |
34322s | actually isn't |
34324s | a million miles off lethal uh on this |
34327s | turn with it being a radio |
34331s | which he could have presuming this is |
34333s | just he's just locked into this being a |
34335s | boon turn instead |
34337s | yeah it seems that way yeah |
34343s | [Music] |
34345s | [Applause] |
34350s | there it is just another one of those |
34352s | dead drawers and that really is one of |
34354s | the Dead drawers no way you can really |
34355s | get that working |
34357s | it's gonna have to be the brawl it's |
34358s | good old-fashioned 2014 Hearthstone just |
34362s | win the one in three if only he had two |
34365s | he had an armor Smith to spend this two |
34367s | mana on I need to be chilling oh |
34371s | eat your heart out on the Smith it's the |
34374s | new kid on the Block and usja all of a |
34377s | sudden in this game uh he's gained a |
34379s | good amount of armor at this point and |
34382s | not a million miles off from activating |
34385s | the combo just needs to survive those |
34386s | interim turns |
34390s | no reaction as well from xnmg no sign of |
34393s | till on that outcome I would have been |
34395s | absolutely smashing my desk at that |
34397s | point but x xmg 100 focused on the task |
34401s | at hand as he has been throughout the |
34403s | whole day so far through the previous |
34404s | Series so far |
34407s | and you can kind of see why right still |
34409s | plenty of ability to keep on juicing |
34411s | there is yeah Lara I do like the azshara |
34414s | uh agreed I'm |
34417s | the thing I'm questioning is whether or |
34419s | not that should have been a radiant |
34421s | turn because it's it's getting to that |
34423s | really awkward point where you want to |
34425s | just spend a turn playing a minion |
34428s | having it live and then you play the |
34430s | radiant and you get to buff buff buff |
34431s | and attack on the same turn but that's |
34433s | very possibly not gonna happen for the |
34435s | rest of the game and so even though he's |
34437s | only getting a very |
34439s | mediocre kind of uh radiant here |
34443s | yes probably still worth it in the end |
34445s | to get it down |
34447s | Crush chlorine Force I mean when it was |
34449s | a decision like once the deliberation |
34450s | took place I assumed crosslaw enforcer |
34453s | was the alternate option being looked at |
34455s | but with double wig double repeating wig |
34458s | in your hand yeah at this point it did |
34459s | feel like even uh you know ashara weapon |
34463s | for the last few points of damage you |
34464s | might need could even be a way of |
34466s | getting out of this game |
34471s | hmm |
34486s | they probably can't afford to just |
34488s | thinly after this |
34492s | from the depths right because he a lot |
34495s | of these cards that are in hand for a |
34496s | hopefully quite soon combo |
34498s | yes |
34502s | draws the slam which was the choice and |
34505s | is going to presumably use the execute |
34508s | here as well still executing the torn as |
34511s | opposed to the radius |
34515s | I agree well you didn't want to Finley |
34518s | when you are pretty much guaranteed dead |
34521s | if you leave this alive with the hero |
34522s | power |
34523s | does feel necessary |
34527s | finds a heavy plate |
34530s | no way to deal with the radiant |
34533s | Elemental though there were a couple of |
34534s | outs there depending on how the |
34535s | discounts landed cards that you hadn't |
34538s | seen |
34539s | no way to do it yeah and no matter what |
34544s | here actually I won't say that it's |
34547s | looking very very likely for a lethal |
34548s | especially with a Thrive off of the |
34551s | noggling as well |
34553s | yeah Thrive for bless now available Zero |
34555s | Man of Shadow at devour in hand |
34559s | Brave |
34565s | really |
34567s | aren't they like infinite dead if you |
34569s | hit them less |
34577s | what is happening okay fine okay sure |
34583s | I think you'll find Derek um pushing up |
34586s | my glasses that they were infinite dead |
34587s | to the call of the grave |
34591s | gray sure yeah uh they're just gonna |
34593s | concede anyway uh we'll take that one |
34596s | um but again showing uh some of the the |
34598s | clunkiness of that deck where the |
34601s | removal options against priests where |
34602s | they just are as we said constantly |
34604s | threatening the power to pop off but |
34606s | rarely actually doing so it's so |
34608s | difficult to save your combo tools for |
34610s | long enough and your removal tools |
34613s | so definitely a blessed left in the deck |
34616s | by the way because one I remember one |
34617s | being used for sure and I realized now |
34620s | looking over at the deck tracker as it's |
34621s | departed me that I can't find out so who |
34623s | knows and either way game is over win on |
34627s | the board for the priest uh now down to |
34629s | the Warlock and the Druid remaining Drew |
34631s | by the way is aggro Druid if you didn't |
34633s | see in the oh yeah series it is not a |
34636s | ramp variation no alignment uh nonsense |
34639s | no straight up Jayla nonsense No |
34641s | denaturis Nonsense this is straight up |
34644s | curve out of four aggro Druid the xmg uh |
34647s | has on his side it did still look very |
34649s | effective uh despite being the only deck |
34652s | for xmg to pick up a loss with on the |
34654s | previous game in the previous series |
34655s | sorry and there you have it just like |
34657s | clockwork the aggro Druid is now going |
34659s | to enter the series but I would say |
34661s | against the likes of control Warrior |
34663s | this probably has a slightly harder time |
34666s | of it than the wig priest does |
34669s | agreed yeah this deck is |
34672s | very very different in its play style |
34674s | now the arbor up has left the the pool |
34678s | of available cards because again you |
34680s | could try and play similarly to that |
34682s | playstyle of the priest where you have a |
34684s | few small Minions on board if they go |
34686s | for the removal you're just gonna refill |
34687s | but if they don't you Arbor up and then |
34689s | they die uh Herald of nature having half |
34692s | as much threatening potential with in |
34694s | terms of the attack does not have quite |
34697s | the same kick to it and Warrior can |
34698s | afford to be a little bit more liberal |
34701s | uh sorry a little bit more conservative |
34702s | I should say with this removable pieces |
34704s | allowing more minions to build up on the |
34706s | board but even then uh having said that |
34709s | the aggro druid |
34711s | has I think just enough |
34713s | hard draw to get two or three waves of |
34717s | threats and you kind of just have to |
34719s | pray that they don't have two or three |
34721s | strong pieces of removal in order to be |
34723s | able to answer that yeah a couple of |
34725s | other key cards in the matchup I think |
34727s | that are worth highlighting uh Mark of |
34729s | the wild specifically I think is the one |
34732s | of the best aggressive tools because |
34734s | just plus two plus two on an individual |
34735s | minion like you said it's no Arbor up in |
34737s | terms of mass damage and ending games |
34739s | but it allows you to make those like |
34742s | medium tube chunky minion boards right |
34745s | like like I was saying about the priest |
34746s | in the previous game |
34748s | um and also control attacks from weapons |
34750s | if that ends up being crucial uh and |
34752s | then of course just the the Discover as |
34754s | well can be absolutely huge because it |
34757s | what allows you sometimes to transform |
34759s | into a little bit more of a heavy |
34761s | hitting value game if you need to right |
34763s | it can really give you that extra gas |
34764s | get you over the line |
34767s | but this is definitely plan a shove |
34770s | stuff on the board and hope it gets |
34771s | there |
34772s | wow not a bad hand though all things |
34775s | considered for uh for us job slam to not |
34779s | draw a card on the trog first and then |
34782s | second one to combo with the location to |
34784s | kill off |
34786s | the hello leather spear looks pretty |
34788s | strong let's kill that trog right |
34792s | how to decide |
34799s | hello really |
34804s | letting it live a greedy boy yeah |
34810s | so obviously there was the you could |
34811s | just use double slam this time right |
34813s | yeah exactly and that hero power oh not |
34815s | hero power location ping it away |
34818s | eat the same effect but cut the trogs |
34820s | off the board but I think uh Easter is |
34822s | just fully focused on card draw wants to |
34824s | use the other slam to draw potentially |
34826s | as well because he knows really killing |
34829s | individual minions isn't going to be the |
34831s | solution he needs to find uh armor in |
34834s | his fine arm again he needs to find uh |
34836s | brawl does already have the heavy plate |
34837s | Shield shutter combo in hand so knows |
34839s | he's fairly safe within that first AOE |
34843s | yeah that's right though for sure it's |
34845s | very interesting and there's very |
34846s | specific draws that would have to happen |
34848s | to from his opponent in order to get the |
34850s | minions out of range of the shield |
34851s | shatter combo uh like you know it would |
34854s | have to be the herald into Pride's Fury |
34857s | and so I kind of like it actually now |
34859s | that I look at it a little bit closer |
34861s | I'm not entirely sure on the value of |
34862s | holding on to a slam uh but I think the |
34865s | the thought process uh very much makes |
34868s | sense where this board you've given them |
34870s | for the next turn is really not that bad |
34872s | yeah uh what saying as well like if |
34874s | we're reflecting on it now after the |
34876s | Frozen buckler drawer it looks fantastic |
34877s | because he was just of course cleared |
34879s | the very next turn uh but obviously |
34881s | that's not necessarily the case he |
34883s | wouldn't have it trades away the heavy |
34884s | plate this turn uses the uh the Frozen |
34886s | buckler instead and looks like an |
34888s | absolute genius on this occasion but |
34891s | there we go |
34894s | foreign |
34905s | I mean I was wondering if you'd hold on |
34907s | to the |
34909s | um |
34914s | sorry hold on to the cook for an extra |
34916s | turn in order to be able to draw a card |
34917s | off of it with uh the hero power plus |
34919s | the the living Roots but I guess it's |
34921s | just thinking living Roots has to be |
34923s | used as opinions here uh to get any kind |
34925s | of value off the Pride's Fury which I do |
34927s | respect yeah I think so |
34930s | oh second location Bryce get pinged |
34935s | dummy |
34938s | and uh that'll probably do it |
34942s | yes |
34943s | yeah I'm thinking so outrider's ax alone |
34945s | can pretty much solo the match up from |
34947s | this point |
34950s | trying to go wide as humanly possible |
34952s | here to hopefully land that Pride's Fury |
34954s | but |
34955s | this does look like it's about to be |
34956s | picked apart and I think you can tell on |
34958s | those just face not particularly worried |
34961s | about the way this game is going anymore |
34968s | oh my God |
34971s | yeah any kind of white board comes down |
34974s | I mean |
34976s | but honestly just like copy one of the |
34978s | minions with faceless if they get big in |
34979s | any way and uh I wore a wide board clear |
34983s | should only be so far away |
34986s | yeah it gets the double location waking |
34988s | up again this turn as well to help with |
34989s | a bit of removal if needs beat |
34996s | even gonna take time out from his busy |
34998s | schedule to rip the from the depths in |
35003s | which in flame will do it Recaro do it |
35013s | the one turn possibly for xmg has to hit |
35017s | very very hard this turn here is that |
35020s | Mark of the wild that I was talking |
35022s | about earlier but does feel like that |
35023s | might just be a Touch Too Late |
35026s | yeah well I I know it's annoying to |
35030s | bring up every true at game is the |
35031s | equivalent of box but turn nine so the |
35035s | sword uh sorry |
35036s | um planted evidence into convoke the |
35039s | spirit is always something you have to |
35041s | bear in mind |
35045s | [Applause] |
35047s | looking less and less likely admittedly |
35049s | but |
35052s | the possibility |
35058s | one location prop and the hero power |
35060s | here will take care of this very very |
35062s | nicely lofty Heights of 22 health |
35068s | xmg just on an absolute hiding to |
35071s | nothing here and it has to be that |
35073s | planted evidence at this point no |
35075s | just goes for the re-roll what else are |
35077s | you looking for yeah just taking the |
35079s | scenic route I think okay fine fine |
35083s | uh |
35084s | honestly even playing it here I really |
35085s | do think you're |
35088s | or like your most likely chance I won't |
35090s | say your only chance is convoke the |
35092s | spirits because nothing |
35094s | else does anywhere near enough yeah sure |
35097s | foreign |
35103s | uh |
35104s | maybe Miracle growth we could |
35128s | really okay |
35133s | yeah I mean I suppose functionally very |
35135s | similar to what I was thinking I was |
35136s | tempted to just Jam a faceless there |
35138s | just to get an extra minion in play play |
35140s | the weapon buff deal with the minion |
35141s | push a little bit of extra damage to |
35143s | face accelerate things a little bit but |
35145s | yeah once again either way look like |
35147s | that game was pretty much overcome the |
35150s | first AOE uh xmg did not really have the |
35154s | super heavy early card draw hand with |
35156s | you know peasants surviving a couple of |
35158s | turns uh crooked cook landing on the |
35160s | board on that first wave when it can |
35163s | stick and you start pushing multiple uh |
35165s | points of damage with the minions and |
35167s | that's usually the kind of opening that |
35170s | you want against a resilient deck |
35172s | because it's the one that fills up your |
35173s | hand over and over again once that first |
35175s | AOE came down you saw it was just one or |
35177s | two cards in hand every turn from that |
35179s | point onwards in just no real way to get |
35181s | a grip back on the board |
35185s | bringing us up to one game a piece and |
35187s | if we were to talk about the relative |
35190s | weight of both of these wins do you |
35192s | think either of these decks were |
35193s | especially likely together for the |
35195s | Finish Line uh in this series or were |
35197s | any of them like a very big win uh to |
35200s | stop it being hard counted |
35202s | um oh I think with the way the match-ups |
35204s | panned out this is basically a wash |
35206s | right like priest against Warrior yes |
35210s | you would always expect that to go the |
35211s | way it did Warrior against Druid you |
35213s | generally expect that to go the way it |
35214s | did in terms of the match up as a whole |
35218s | I think very much the same which again |
35221s | you know players don't always have |
35223s | reasons for the order they queue decks |
35224s | in Conquest |
35226s | um but some people sometimes people do |
35227s | go through that thought process of like |
35229s | you know I don't need this deck let's |
35230s | just throw it out first and see what |
35232s | happens and I think that's kind of where |
35233s | they've stood with the the first two |
35235s | match-ups that we've had |
35238s | moving on up to the mailbox Rogue here |
35241s | the non Maestra version I have one which |
35246s | I I think I do probably prefer right now |
35248s | uh at least for ladder and uh probably |
35252s | the biggest outlier photos just line up |
35255s | overall like it's kind of a combo deck I |
35258s | suppose but it does have some pretty |
35260s | different matchups compared to the |
35262s | majority of his other decks yeah I would |
35264s | say so too I mean you can almost split |
35267s | his line up in half right where |
35270s | um Warrior and priest are kind of the |
35271s | you know the control decks with combo |
35273s | win conditions and then |
35275s | um Rogue and major both kind of |
35277s | mid-rangey in their own way but do |
35279s | sometimes you know end games as if they |
35281s | were a combo deck if the right things |
35283s | line up in the right direction |
35285s | um certainly it's a difficult lineup to |
35288s | dissect uh as expressed so succinctly by |
35290s | Gregorius on Twitter yesterday when or |
35293s | this morning when we saw the lineup come |
35294s | out uh definitely one of the most |
35297s | overall unconventional lineups that we |
35298s | are seeing in this tournament |
35300s | oh a spicy looking line up there for us |
35303s | yeah the uh often used uh well the the |
35309s | Cutlass used I was gonna say for its |
35310s | alternate uh usage should really be the |
35312s | main usage of swinging it like a Cutlass |
35315s | yeah but could end up being pretty |
35317s | clutch here against the probable one |
35321s | [Music] |
35332s | very satisfied nod coming out from |
35334s | Easter in that eventuality and now you |
35337s | can see how powerful that weapon is in |
35338s | this instance |
35339s | really shutting down any kind of |
35341s | development here peasant already dead |
35343s | being seen on the board here |
35347s | oh |
35351s | getting melted yep that bone Spike off |
35354s | the top |
35355s | absolutely disgusting allowing for the |
35359s | full Tempo swing here instead |
35361s | this is sometimes the problem with Druid |
35363s | right like yeah like I feel like aggro |
35365s | Druid is the deck where |
35367s | the first few times you queue it on |
35370s | ladder have such an enormous effect on |
35372s | whether you ever play the deck again |
35374s | right and that can be as you playing it |
35376s | or even against your opponent right |
35378s | because even if you just queue against |
35379s | it a couple of times and your opponent |
35381s | has this kind of start you draw a couple |
35382s | of removal spells you kill their stuff |
35384s | and then they fall over so I mean oh my |
35386s | God that deck sucks like why is that it |
35388s | playing this deck I'm not going anywhere |
35390s | near it whereas equally you can just die |
35393s | on turn four or turn five a couple of |
35395s | times and then immediately go scrambling |
35397s | for the deck code so you can play it |
35398s | yourself right like it's so feast or |
35400s | famine in a lot of uh positions as to |
35403s | how well it does in so many matchups |
35405s | based on opening hand |
35408s | potential to pull things back though |
35409s | here for xmg with a good draw off the |
35412s | top uh I'm thinking Thorn growth |
35414s | centuries just anything to go super wide |
35417s | to set up for the okay uh Pride's fury |
35419s | on the following turn |
35423s | look to me like a good way to start the |
35424s | turn just to fill out your Mana a little |
35426s | bit more cleanly |
35430s | uh yeah Jerry rig sure |
35434s | like Jerry living Roots coin other |
35436s | living Roots if you hit it uh you gotta |
35439s | be scratched or just coins |
35444s | yeah I think it was between that and the |
35447s | sidekick maybe just to protect the |
35449s | Slither spear from those three damage |
35451s | effects which are quite common on the |
35452s | other side but I do think I like this a |
35454s | little bit more |
35455s | [Music] |
35456s | ah wow the discipline what an absolute |
35461s | slow roll |
35466s | all right Sprint on the run it's your |
35468s | CMD literally licking his lips and then |
35471s | popping off in response to this |
35473s | oh okay how does this work and you get |
35477s | the zero amount of stenographer before |
35480s | Shadow step you can right yep |
35483s | yeah yeah just do the thing |
35486s | coin location Frost wolf stenographer |
35489s | clear the board click the button yet |
35494s | irreversibly ahead on the board from |
35496s | this point I would say |
35498s | yeah it was very nicely done by ustia |
35500s | this is a matchup that's very |
35501s | reminiscent of when Rogue was not this |
35504s | coin Rogue but was uh the previous |
35506s | iteration lamby Rogue and then morphing |
35508s | into the miracle version that cut |
35510s | krabatoa and all that late game where in |
35512s | the early turns you just dismantled your |
35515s | combo nothing mattered except keeping |
35517s | the board clear which ustia did not have |
35519s | to go too out of his way admittedly to |
35521s | do so but he did use up some of these |
35523s | combo pieces right like not trading the |
35525s | cutlers playing the bones bike just |
35527s | tempoing out his hand as quick as |
35529s | possible and then you trust your deck to |
35531s | provide for you later on and the perfect |
35536s | example of that just a good match-up |
35538s | understanding right from the start |
35549s | xmg doing his absolute level best to try |
35551s | and present some kind of board here to |
35553s | the opponent but hard to even see |
35555s | anything which isn't almost immediately |
35559s | dealt with just by what's in play on the |
35561s | other side right |
35563s | and here even if there was no further |
35565s | value which there is clearly plenty of |
35567s | here uh for ustia |
35570s | you could just clear the board like |
35571s | again if you just take the time to clear |
35572s | the board you will win the game shortly |
35574s | afterwards yep |
35583s | probably just like a hit yep your |
35586s | opponent's gonna make a board for you |
35588s | that dies just to dagger yeah who's your |
35590s | waves goodbye to the opponent |
35592s | you can call it overconfident if you |
35594s | will but I don't think it is I think it |
35596s | is accurately recognizing the situation |
35598s | that he is in right now |
35601s | he's a one game of Hearthstone |
35604s | oh man this is just why I don't have the |
35606s | uh the mental fortitude to play aggro |
35609s | Druid on ladder it's just too |
35611s | demoralizing when you get in these |
35612s | situations where there's just |
35614s | absolutely nothing but you have to keep |
35617s | playing because you were the aggressor |
35618s | at the start so you always when you |
35620s | start losing you're always at full |
35621s | health and you have to spend five turns |
35623s | slowly dying when you're like well I |
35626s | could get composed to Spirits why just |
35628s | let me die |
35632s | coin coin Frost wolf stenographer we |
35635s | have seen it once already |
35637s | I think this time with the second click |
35640s | of the location that probably spells |
35643s | disaster for our Chinese representative |
35647s | yes yep throws down the concede and we |
35650s | see the uh the road getting the job done |
35653s | stenographers coming in hot |
35656s | a big win uh for us here as we finally |
35659s | catch up there we go |
35661s | [Music] |
35666s | there he is I mean he's been very uh |
35669s | expressive on camera so far both in |
35672s | Victory and defeat right as we've seen |
35675s | so far uh he's been on a bit of a ride |
35677s | through both the Gregorius series and |
35679s | this one so far |
35681s | um but clearly very very confident in |
35684s | these decks confident in this lineup |
35686s | despite on the surface it looking like |
35689s | one of the more mystifying lineups in |
35691s | the tournament he is showing piece by |
35694s | piece that it is coming together very |
35695s | nicely and now arguably the most |
35698s | conventional deck in his lineup is the |
35700s | one left to get a win with |
35702s | indeed yeah the uh the Mage to end |
35705s | things out with uh which I'm obviously |
35708s | very happy to see big Mage fan uh over |
35711s | here and you're a big you're a big Mage |
35713s | fan so not this day no I hate big Mage |
35716s | but I am a big Mage fan and uh I think |
35719s | it should be in a pretty good spot |
35721s | overall it's a little similar to the |
35724s | Rogue in that your game plan should |
35725s | still just be clear the board as much as |
35727s | possible but you have to dismantle your |
35730s | combo quote unquote less so to do that |
35732s | because we don't really have one in the |
35733s | same way and you also have much more |
35736s | backup uh if you do lose the board |
35740s | against the likes of any purely board |
35742s | based deck like uh as an A Relic Demon |
35745s | Hunter Naga priest in particular kind of |
35748s | big spell Mage and uh the I graduate as |
35753s | well big time uh you just have so much |
35755s | time uh as the Ping Mage and they have |
35758s | so little way to counteract freeze |
35760s | damage face freeze damage face Alibi |
35762s | Alibi uh I like this Juice Spot very |
35765s | much so specifically in this kind of |
35768s | matchup or I should say the Druid |
35770s | matchup I'm not sure what is being |
35772s | queued on the other side you know |
35773s | against the kind of deck that's going to |
35775s | play a minion on one probably two |
35776s | Minions on two multiple minions again on |
35778s | turn three |
35779s | what are the tools in Mage that you're |
35781s | looking for to deal with that right |
35783s | because that's always one of the |
35784s | problems I've had with pig Mages not |
35786s | just this method but previous matters as |
35788s | well is it's such a dominant mid-range |
35792s | deck right once it turns like five to |
35794s | ten you feel like you're absolutely |
35795s | stomping everything your opponent does |
35797s | but what do you have in the deck that |
35799s | can actually deal with exactly this kind |
35801s | of start from the opponent planner is |
35803s | definitely be more efficient than them |
35806s | in the early game which you can do |
35807s | absolutely if you're getting the the |
35810s | Mana discounts on spells with your |
35813s | shivering sorceress with your hero power |
35815s | if you get the snow flurry as well if |
35817s | you just spend your matter every turn |
35819s | from one through four proactively you're |
35821s | probably gonna beat them uh Plan B is I |
35824s | would say actually something pretty much |
35826s | like this where you prioritize card draw |
35828s | very heavily if you're not able to stay |
35830s | ahead on board you kind of don't want to |
35832s | try and keep up because they're just |
35834s | going to Value trade you over and over |
35836s | again so you just want to make sure |
35837s | you're hitting these high value card |
35839s | draw cards and you should be able to |
35841s | then stall out the game until you hit |
35843s | one of these as you said massive midterm |
35846s | turn spikes in the form of an upgraded |
35850s | um |
35851s | uh sorry uh uh Alchemist or the |
35855s | uh more dress once you hit that point as |
35858s | well for a war well done you name two |
35861s | entire cards there I it was just ahead |
35864s | of my brain I know what those cards are |
35869s | ah you know how it's it's how obviously |
35872s | annoyed you get about her which makes me |
35873s | keep mentioning it you know that right |
35876s | yeah well guess what yesterday I didn't |
35879s | even say that you called Infuse cards |
35882s | avenge I did do that a lot yeah yeah |
35884s | it's it's the Battlegrounds player |
35886s | filthy BG's player yeah yeah |
35889s | surrounded by them |
35893s | uh by the way tune into Lobby Legends |
35895s | soon |
35906s | no snap pick as of yet from xmg which I |
35910s | think PMD is more than happy to see in |
35913s | this situation just did not want to see |
35915s | the massive buff come down I think he |
35917s | just wants time the way this game is |
35919s | panned out it was kind of I think |
35921s | category B of what you were very |
35923s | expertly explaining there where he's |
35925s | stalling and drawing just trying to |
35927s | reduce damage here and there and then |
35929s | he's going to try and find some |
35931s | explosive mid-game turn along the way |
35933s | but obviously the number one problem |
35935s | with that would be like for example wide |
35938s | board Pride's fury on the previous turn |
35939s | or this turn if that still existed the |
35942s | news gear has done a great job of |
35944s | picking this apart so far lots and lots |
35947s | of leeway here |
35951s | but |
35953s | activator is at one turn off I think it |
35955s | might should be one turn or sorry one |
35957s | spell of activating the savara uh on |
35960s | that previous turn which is pretty nice |
35961s | to have that flexibility uh with only |
35964s | wildfire and Frozen touch haven't been |
35965s | played flurry is of course a premium |
35968s | card to get back into your hand to set |
35970s | up for matches to draw and grasp but |
35973s | coin is not bad either you know being |
35975s | able to go coin savara and then wild uh |
35979s | wildfire and then on the next turn I |
35981s | have coin Dawn grass plus the flurry |
35983s | afterwards as well or beforehand to try |
35985s | and double up on the flurry uh basically |
35987s | it's all to say that there's flexibility |
35989s | and very powerful stall tools available |
35992s | for ustia |
35996s | yeah the coin that's I think because of |
35999s | handspace what's kind of forced from him |
36004s | so it's gonna be what coin ping savara |
36006s | flurry probably |
36008s | I mean in either order I suppose oh yeah |
36011s | okay |
36015s | gonna get back another Wildfire from |
36017s | this which could be extremely useful if |
36019s | Reckless Apprentice comes along anytime |
36021s | soon |
36028s | xmg not on as much of a hiding to |
36031s | nothing as he has been in the last |
36033s | couple of games |
36034s | uh does have more of a robust hand size |
36037s | more options available and other planted |
36039s | evidence now discovered if he would so |
36040s | choose but he is once again in that |
36042s | position which every aggro Druid dreads |
36044s | which is kind of being forced off the |
36047s | board and having to reload every turn |
36049s | the deck can reload it's just not well |
36051s | equipped at doing so in the way that for |
36053s | example wig priest is right you don't |
36055s | want to be building boards from scratch |
36057s | every turn you want to be buffing things |
36059s | you already have that's exactly what |
36061s | he's going to be doing this turn and |
36062s | next turn because usta's reaction there |
36064s | this is getting to the point where it's |
36067s | a little bit too difficult for him to |
36070s | clear on this turn a nice draw in Varden |
36074s | I do still think he's forced on to the |
36077s | hero card on this turn because you can |
36081s | go coin flurry 50 50 to hit flurry again |
36085s | off the dawn grasp and even if you miss |
36088s | get |
36089s | a frozen touch would make you overdraw |
36092s | admittedly but it has a good chance to |
36094s | hit something already okay okay I was |
36096s | also wondering whether it was still |
36098s | using the coin but you throw out uh say |
36100s | Arcane intellect alongside Warden |
36102s | instead because it feels like maybe |
36104s | Reckless Apprentice is the card that you |
36106s | are going for at this point just to be |
36108s | able to impact this ball but I think the |
36110s | size of the minions as they are you're |
36112s | probably out of range of that kind of |
36114s | stuff as well right multiple five Health |
36115s | minions eight health minion on the board |
36117s | as well so yeah I think uh hero card |
36119s | probably the right way to go about it |
36121s | for the finishing touch I mean good to |
36124s | see your play next turn I think that |
36125s | looks very appropriate yep agreed I |
36128s | think that's just almost a strictly |
36131s | better way of doing it right because |
36132s | then if you are able to get that full |
36135s | board freeze you've spent this one turn |
36137s | without dying to play Varden and then |
36140s | you actually get the Juiced up hero |
36141s | power coming through as well obviously a |
36143s | bit of a nonsense oh hello uh because |
36146s | the Pride's Fury was able to come down |
36148s | and the minions are just so huge now |
36154s | uh what order were these minions played |
36156s | and this is so difficult to figure out |
36157s | because Apprentice does work on Minion |
36160s | Play order so if you can line them up |
36162s | perfectly to one I think there's one |
36164s | slitherspoon first then the cook then |
36167s | the living Roots then the other |
36168s | slitherspoon then the other cook then |
36170s | the thing on the left damn I forgot the |
36173s | name of the card leaving sidekick there |
36175s | you go the sidekick yeah you did I think |
36179s | yeah I don't know I remember the |
36181s | sidekick came down on the same turn as |
36182s | the herald which feels like a million |
36185s | turns ago if he wasn't actually that |
36186s | long |
36191s | is that juicing to five or four |
36194s | okay |
36195s | instead sure makes sense uh it's using |
36198s | to five sorry yeah because it got played |
36201s | once naturally and then again bye |
36204s | pardon and out to five |
36207s | thank you |
36210s | I mean this is pretty much where he |
36211s | where you just hope |
36215s | oh that's so sad daylight |
36218s | you just hope your maths was correct and |
36220s | that this is a an effective enough water |
36222s | clear yeah as long as he's okay to the |
36225s | spare first yeah I think he's pretty |
36227s | good from here |
36228s | because now this hits a living oh the |
36231s | color then the cook oh beaming psychic |
36233s | before the cook otherwise I was exactly |
36235s | close yeah functionally the same here |
36238s | and uh functionally the same in ending |
36241s | in |
36243s | almost a guaranteed loss from here for |
36245s | xmg uh we could see again as I said uh |
36249s | the planted evidence to get a miraculous |
36251s | outcome of some kind but outside of that |
36255s | Mage things from here on in |
36261s | and now this this is the den of aggro |
36264s | Druid misery right like now you are |
36267s | you're off board your opponent has |
36269s | minions anything you play Just dies |
36272s | pretty much immediately you are having a |
36275s | bad time at this point in the game |
36279s | foreign |
36282s | battle mode on the Druid of the reef |
36285s | and why not right |
36295s | I have an idea |
36301s | just fine yeah I'm yeah sure like I I |
36305s | perhaps I'm a little too precious with |
36308s | my frozen touches in general let's just |
36309s | throw them out here it's accurate Derek |
36312s | I just killed this stuff and put stuff |
36315s | on board |
36316s | I mean this is eternally been my uh my |
36319s | one of my weakest points in Hearthstone |
36321s | is if you can make a card yellow you |
36323s | have to make it yellow okay a lovely |
36326s | border |
36336s | oh yeah that'll do it that will |
36338s | absolutely do it |
36340s | bmd takes a bow ustia takes a bow well |
36344s | you know what who's just CMD takes a bow |
36346s | he he deserves some respect on his full |
36349s | name at this point that was a very very |
36351s | nicely played series especially |
36354s | impressed with that last game right like |
36356s | the recognition because I I think his |
36358s | head was in a similar place to mine |
36359s | where like I need Reckless Apprentice at |
36361s | some point in this game to win the game |
36363s | what he recognized I didn't necessarily |
36364s | do at the time was that he had a free |
36366s | turn to play Varden playing Varden was |
36368s | going to be necessarily in that equation |
36370s | anyway because he was never going to get |
36372s | a naturally big enough Reckless |
36374s | Apprentice to clear the board he needed |
36376s | the you know the the the daisy chain of |
36378s | juicing as it went along then not only |
36380s | to recognize that from a strategy |
36382s | standpoint but then also to keep perfect |
36384s | track of the Minion Play order as you |
36386s | said and then actually execute the turn |
36388s | in the way that cleared the board so |
36389s | perfectly as well really really nice |
36392s | game of Mage overall |
36394s | agreed yeah I think it's just looking on |
36397s | uh impeccable form and out of the two |
36400s | real players that we had very little |
36403s | idea of of him and plastic it's uh you |
36406s | know complete opposites in terms of |
36408s | their stories so far and while I think |
36411s | plastic you know certainly wasn't |
36413s | playing at the level that deserved a 1-6 |
36416s | score line uh booster |
36419s | um feels like he's on another level uh |
36421s | I'm loving his lineup overall and he uh |
36423s | he got the the matchups that he does |
36425s | that he wanted so far and now finds |
36428s | himself a game away or a series I should |
36430s | say rather for the World Championships I |
36432s | assumingly out of nowhere a few days ago |
36434s | we didn't even know who this guy was and |
36436s | he's just a series away from the highest |
36439s | level Hearthstone tournament there is |
36441s | and what a miracle story and this is |
36443s | what we want to see right like the |
36445s | opening up of the system this season or |
36448s | this year to make exactly this kind of |
36450s | thing possible has added so much to the |
36453s | dynamic and the unpredictability and the |
36455s | exact the excitement of the format |
36457s | because you know when it when quote the |
36460s | world champion ships was reserved |
36461s | strictly for Grand Masters like yeah |
36464s | the kind of sucked you know to have the |
36466s | World Championships closed off from the |
36468s | the general field there was no path to |
36470s | Pro if you like from the from the |
36472s | Grassroots up now there absolutely is |
36474s | and we've seen multiple players take |
36476s | part in that really from the beginning |
36477s | making their way through the system all |
36479s | the way to Grand Masters and even the |
36480s | ones who didn't making their way through |
36482s | the back door if you like just picking |
36484s | up those Masters Tour wins qualifying |
36486s | for those tournaments getting those top |
36488s | eight finishes in the Masters tours and |
36490s | now they find themselves here within |
36492s | grasping distance of the world |
36494s | championship and that is what you |
36495s | absolutely love to see it is indeed and |
36498s | with Glory very possibly making it as |
36500s | well we can put aside any rest that he |
36503s | only did it in a a closed circuit system |
36505s | as uh the uh APAC players APAC fans we |
36510s | need to take our dubs where we can get |
36512s | them |
36513s | uh but yeah a huge one there for ustia |
36517s | uh one player left to send through to |
36519s | the uh quarterfinals from Group D could |
36523s | still be any of the are the three |
36525s | representative xmg despite making the |
36527s | taking the loss there sorry is currently |
36529s | the most likely player to do so waiting |
36531s | in the decider match for either uh |
36532s | spring or Gregorio sale so we're gonna |
36535s | go to a break and when we come back the |
36537s | first elimination match of Group D will |
36539s | come |
36541s | [Music] |
36551s | foreign |
36557s | [Music] |
36559s | foreign |
36561s | [Music] |
36561s | [Applause] |
36563s | [Music] |
36589s | foreign |
36591s | [Music] |
36625s | foreign |
36629s | [Music] |
36655s | foreign |
36660s | [Music] |
36675s | [Music] |
36695s | foreign |
36696s | [Music] |
36726s | foreign |
36727s | [Music] |
36737s | and welcome back to the fall |
36739s | Championship I'm Raven and joining me is |
36741s | TJ and we're about to cast our |
36743s | elimination match for Group D It's the |
36746s | final chance for one of these players |
36748s | between spring and grigoras to actually |
36750s | make it through and I think this one's |
36752s | going to be just a little bit of a grind |
36755s | Fest honestly TJ because both of these |
36757s | players are bringing you know generally |
36759s | speaking much slower lineups than we've |
36761s | seen throughout most of the weekend so |
36763s | far especially when you look at those |
36765s | paladins the priest even the mage |
36768s | uh yeah it is uh a much slower matchup |
36772s | right this is the first time we've seen |
36773s | paladin on both sides right |
36776s | um which is |
36778s | one of them's gotta win right I mean I |
36781s | mean maybe it's spring like get ahead |
36785s | but then just like not be able to do |
36788s | anything else for the rest of the game |
36790s | uh and and lose anyway it was uh was was |
36795s | rough it was brutal for sure |
36798s | um so yeah I'm excited for it though |
36800s | there's we have deep Rogue on one side |
36803s | which is just such a cool deck to watch |
36808s | um |
36810s | yeah it's okay TJ okay that wasn't for |
36814s | us no one else heard it so because I |
36816s | should have thought yeah |
36818s | um yeah so look looking at the first |
36820s | deck on the line here is going to be |
36822s | this Mage and it is going to be lining |
36824s | up against the shaman from Gregorius so |
36827s | uh of course again big spell Mage here |
36829s | with that mass poly buff in as well so |
36832s | the uh the hidden Tech against the uh |
36836s | potential game-winning card from shaman |
36840s | foreign |
36842s | that's right |
36844s | uh this uh |
36846s | one of the Springs lineup is just so |
36851s | I'm gonna I'm gonna figure it out as I |
36853s | go kind of right you know what I mean |
36855s | yeah it's the deck will give me |
36858s | something along the way and I'll I'll |
36860s | win it'll be fine and that's one of my |
36863s | favorite kinds of lineups because I feel |
36865s | like those types of decks those types of |
36868s | games have the most skill expression |
36872s | um I I Look to uh bunny Hopper's lineup |
36874s | as well who's kind of similar right you |
36877s | see like decks like control shopping or |
36880s | a big big spell Mage right XL big spell |
36885s | um and then you look at uh defrogue |
36888s | Paladin to an extent but I think Paladin |
36891s | more so in the fact that like timing is |
36893s | everything you just have you have a lot |
36895s | of control tools but you also have to be |
36898s | able to know when to kind of space them |
36900s | out and when to use that removal and I |
36903s | really like that whereas you know the |
36904s | players that brought AG a lot of so not |
36906s | saying those lineups are worse or that |
36907s | they're not skillful it's just a skill |
36908s | comes in different ways where it's just |
36910s | about like maximizing everything every |
36912s | turn |
36914s | um so it's kind of nice to just you know |
36917s | kick back relax get comfortable watch |
36920s | some games that you know aren't going to |
36921s | end in six turns uh yeah I generally |
36924s | agree with that yet uh looking at both |
36927s | players here with this uh how this |
36929s | Shaman's gonna line up into the Mage it |
36931s | really is just going to be of a be a bit |
36933s | of a slog Fest isn't it because neither |
36935s | of them outside of really popping off |
36939s | early on with certain cards really have |
36941s | a okay I've done this now you lose kind |
36944s | of win condition right uh like you said |
36946s | about I like a lot of the aggro decks |
36948s | even like Relic Demon Hunter and so on |
36950s | um so it will just be a bit of a value |
36953s | fight across the whole series and |
36956s | honestly I think you do just have to |
36957s | look in these matchups especially at |
36960s | cards like the ones that are highlighted |
36962s | the mutinous to try and you know Chomp |
36964s | on the key cards from your opponent to |
36967s | then massively reduce down the value |
36968s | they have and then the side and atheros |
36970s | as well because as we know that is |
36972s | arguably I guess one card that does |
36974s | often just be played and ends the game |
36976s | there and then so it will be interesting |
36978s | how like you said it's more about how |
36981s | the players actually navigate |
36983s | to an end game stay as opposed to how |
36985s | they sort of execute you know each turn |
36987s | or have that aggro mindset or anything |
36989s | like that so there are definitely are |
36991s | differences obviously less generation in |
36994s | the mid-range shame and than there is in |
36995s | the Mage but either way I'm just happy |
36997s | to see how this match plays out because |
36999s | both players on the back foot now put it |
37002s | simply if they lose they're done they're |
37004s | out Unfortunately they don't make it or |
37006s | have a shot at making it to the World |
37007s | Championship so a lot on the line for |
37009s | both players and surely TJ |
37012s | that's a glug keep |
37015s | laughs |
37018s | the book of Raven it's the best card |
37020s | Raven has spoken yeah it's the best card |
37022s | in the deck why wouldn't you want it in |
37023s | your hand yeah maybe not against Mage as |
37026s | much |
37028s | um just because of the fact that you |
37030s | know they could just freeze it forever |
37032s | they can't kill it TJ and if it never |
37035s | dies it will eventually win you're right |
37038s | you're right you're right and spring is |
37040s | obviously playing the I don't even know |
37042s | what to call this deck I'm gonna be |
37043s | quite quite honest with you |
37046s | um just XL Mage right because it's not |
37050s | anything specific it's Excel ping Mage I |
37052s | guess it's the actual archetype but it |
37053s | also has runes in the top end yeah I |
37056s | mean I would I would still call this |
37057s | just big spell Mage right it's just |
37059s | running a few extra or different tools |
37062s | like the uh death bone for example |
37064s | yeah okay |
37067s | it's like I would say it's the older big |
37070s | spell Mage or spooky Mage I suppose |
37072s | because they're so very similar like you |
37074s | said |
37076s | yeah |
37077s | you know so far Gregorius got off to a |
37080s | decent start again the the Piranhas not |
37083s | the best anti-aggro tools when you go in |
37086s | a place Mage because they don't really |
37088s | play tons of minions in the early game |
37090s | but good for just beefing up that hand |
37092s | size in case there's you know a null and |
37094s | a muck pools right you'd still rather |
37096s | have that in your hand now than later on |
37098s | yeah |
37104s | I'm just already very interested to see |
37107s | what the impact the clown fish and |
37110s | Garlock will make |
37113s | because although there's no big targets |
37115s | to hit yet there are a lot of big |
37117s | targets to actually hit in the deck from |
37119s | mutinous if gregoris can get hold of it |
37125s | big if there's 40 cards in this deck |
37128s | biggest deck |
37131s | yeah |
37133s | makes sense |
37141s | in this kind of matchup you're really |
37143s | waiting for that that Pivot Point right |
37145s | like Will Spring get matches to Dawn |
37149s | grasp like on curve because suddenly |
37152s | it allows one player to put their foot |
37154s | on the gas right and actually say okay |
37156s | this is a way to win the game but until |
37158s | then a lot of it's just going to be |
37160s | keeping even and try not to take too |
37163s | much early game damage because that can |
37165s | also just tilt things just a little bit |
37166s | in one player's favor yeah oh a Malcolm |
37171s | okay yeah I feel like gregorius's early |
37173s | game has been |
37175s | pretty good everything's lined up nice |
37178s | and cleanly the clownfish into the |
37180s | ravager to be able to fill up the hand |
37182s | early |
37184s | um probably was hoping for uh maybe |
37186s | mutinous off the top to try and get some |
37188s | of the disruption early |
37189s | uh but this definitely is one of those |
37191s | matchups where you can even grieve the |
37194s | muteness a tiny bit |
37196s | maybe even wait for Brian right |
37199s | yeah wait for a brand or wait for um |
37203s | uh McCall so yep |
37206s | I do have a question for you though TJ |
37208s | okay go for it |
37210s | because it's a bit of a slow going |
37212s | match-up in the start and you'd argue |
37214s | you know both players have time right |
37215s | neither of them are going to get aggro |
37217s | down is there a particular minion type |
37220s | that gregoris will want to hit with |
37222s | amalgam is there as you know a card that |
37225s | you can discover that suddenly makes a |
37227s | huge impact is it murlocs for another |
37229s | mutinous is it a beast is it some kind |
37231s | of Elemental |
37232s | in in this matchup specifically probably |
37235s | Beast |
37236s | um because of starfish |
37239s | because that you know just threatening |
37241s | to be able to unlock your minions and |
37244s | push you know that extra little bit of |
37246s | damage it makes a lot of sense you also |
37248s | have a chance to get macaw |
37250s | which is just overall good in the deck |
37252s | so if you're playing for like the |
37253s | absolute best case scenario |
37256s | I'd probably say Beast okay uh if you're |
37259s | playing for highest value probably Naga |
37263s | if you're playing for flurgal murloc |
37267s | or mutinous but murlocs in general are |
37269s | pretty bad yeah there's a lot of whiffs |
37272s | right yeah uh Elementals is the are the |
37276s | only one with like direct burst right |
37278s | unless you talk about life trigger life |
37280s | triggers is uh three damage but uh you |
37283s | can get alak here which is like the most |
37285s | damage ooh |
37288s | mass reveler that was called something |
37291s | like that |
37292s | I think so uh someone's a copy of a tutu |
37296s | or someone's a copy of a million in your |
37297s | deck uh that's a it comes out as a due |
37300s | to |
37301s | um that could be interesting what could |
37302s | be cool |
37305s | um |
37306s | glug |
37308s | yeah I mean tell me I'm wrong teacher |
37311s | tell me I'm wrong no |
37314s | uh I mean you can get like |
37316s | just a null and yeah |
37320s | um |
37321s | pulls it early I don't know Paul neck |
37324s | wouldn't be terrible right oh yeah |
37326s | Boulder and brand yeah |
37333s | very early Varden |
37336s | um |
37337s | but I can't say I disagree |
37340s | because there wasn't much else to do |
37342s | just double wildfire and Reckless |
37344s | Apprentice in hand now so I'm gonna |
37346s | start to get the pigs up there but still |
37348s | not even halfway through the deck do you |
37351s | guitar perhaps double dip |
37354s | all right I love Reckless apprentice and |
37356s | Shaman I love it |
37360s | Brew Khan |
37362s | you roll the damage hero power and then |
37364s | you brand wrapped this Apprentice you |
37366s | can deal like 80 points of damage if |
37368s | your opponent's board is full is it |
37370s | better than just |
37371s | picking a wildfire though TJ is that |
37374s | really where we're at right now |
37376s | so because wildfire's useless |
37380s | steel one more |
37383s | yeah |
37384s | whatever they do it's just plus one yeah |
37388s | it's just whatever they taunt one more |
37390s | time |
37393s | this has taunt plus one taunt twice this |
37398s | one one is now a one one plus one |
37402s | again I don't know I would have taken |
37404s | the Reckless Apprentice High upside down |
37406s | I'm playing for high upside here |
37408s | it's sick it's so good I've won like at |
37413s | least two games with it whoa that's two |
37416s | more than I thought you would have won |
37417s | with it games that were unwinnable |
37419s | otherwise really okay yeah because it |
37422s | because as you know briarthorne taught |
37425s | us the mythical briarthorne taught us |
37428s | it takes your hero power and just fires |
37432s | and just presses it for however many |
37434s | minions there are on the board |
37436s | uh plus the uh plus the enemy so let's |
37439s | say there's five Minions on the board |
37441s | and you roll the Brew con damage hero |
37443s | power that's 30 damage that you deal to |
37445s | your opponent's face |
37448s | 36 damage because it counts the actual |
37450s | face too |
37452s | um |
37455s | that's polymorph coming out now I do |
37457s | understand this spring doesn't want to |
37458s | take you know a ton of damage just for |
37461s | nothing doesn't really have good enough |
37462s | freezes available but |
37466s | it does mean now |
37468s | Ring's not safe from glug |
37474s | you're right |
37478s | I really wouldn't mind uh Gregory is |
37480s | just holding on to this mutinous is is |
37483s | there any particular Rush right now |
37486s | I yeah I think it's perfectly fine to |
37488s | hold on to it at least just like see |
37490s | your next draw just don't play a murloc |
37492s | well also there's two amalgams why don't |
37494s | you go fishing for beasts right with the |
37496s | two with the sheep on board I think do |
37498s | that first and then decide yeah true |
37502s | foreign |
37508s | dragon |
37513s | yeah I guess I mean I'm always looking |
37515s | Aussie man |
37516s | it can be really good again if you play |
37519s | it next turn into a potential um |
37524s | just it feels like you're bored |
37526s | yeah I I guess with garbage they're one |
37529s | threes |
37531s | oh that one's better |
37533s | oh fine |
37535s | you remember when Snapdragon for a very |
37537s | short time called Gira hero cards with |
37540s | attack yes oh those were the days |
37545s | yeah cool fan constrictor very |
37547s | interesting the timing is particularly |
37549s | interesting too |
37551s | um it can really mess with but uh Mage |
37554s | in particular wants to do because |
37555s | oftentimes they plan stuff out |
37558s | later on the game I don't even know |
37559s | Frank constrictor was a beast but it |
37561s | makes sense when you look at the art it |
37562s | kind of looks like a Naga but then you |
37563s | look closely it's just a giant snake and |
37565s | it's called coil fan constrictor yeah |
37567s | which uh leads you to believe that it's |
37570s | a snake there actually isn't Elemental |
37571s | in the pit in the the art though yeah |
37574s | it's coiling around an elemental |
37577s | yeah it doesn't seem like a smart plan |
37578s | what are you gonna do it's a really big |
37580s | snake |
37587s | I agree it would be weird if it was |
37589s | called Cole Fang constrictor and it was |
37591s | a rabbit |
37593s | oh Space Rock what is it called space |
37595s | Elemental |
37596s | rocket ship |
37599s | Arcane Elemental |
37601s | I feel like you're just saying words now |
37603s | teacher I'm confused space Elemental is |
37606s | that just an empty you walk into an |
37607s | empty room it's like oh there's a space |
37609s | Elemental over there why we're looking |
37610s | at this space |
37611s | [Laughter] |
37618s | so it's an Arcane space Elemental what |
37621s | is it called |
37622s | oh the the tutu yeah I wasn't even |
37625s | looking I'll still look at the elements |
37626s | on the goal if I could streaks oh no |
37630s | as you write something |
37632s | Azurite something maybe I don't know |
37635s | azureate Elemental that means I prefer |
37638s | space Elemental it's just uh |
37644s | Base Rock |
37646s | oh Stone I'm Googling it |
37649s | I'd love it if it is just called space |
37651s | right it's emerged Space Rock there's |
37653s | space in this rock and it's an elemental |
37656s | see it's a space Elemental give me a |
37658s | break |
37665s | yeah get that Snapdragon online yeah |
37667s | wait can you play it the quicker the |
37670s | deck is buffed |
37673s | yeah so let's see what's what we got |
37675s | that's in the deck we got |
37678s | uh I don't know on fish it's a Cause |
37688s | it's |
37691s | just over |
37703s | okay so Gregorius now needs to |
37705s | oh |
37707s | mutinous the mode rash to protect the |
37710s | glug |
37712s | foreign |
37715s | condition look |
37721s | I mean this doesn't seem like a terrible |
37723s | motor turn does it |
37726s | the ball's not huge but |
37728s | it's big enough to be annoying |
37733s | could also |
37735s | um just go like the guitar |
37740s | you take off three powers |
37742s | oh mutinous oh no |
37746s | oh the punish for the green |
37749s | give him the Sorceress |
37752s | oh yeah throw the two two at them it's |
37755s | better than dinathrius |
37758s | but it's not better than a three is if |
37761s | spring then plays yeah you listen it |
37765s | eats them to death |
37767s | it's just a twofold oh here we go get |
37770s | some trades right off the bat too yeah |
37773s | this will certainly Force some more |
37775s | trash and then Gregorius has a a Juiced |
37778s | Sylvanas |
37781s | I feel like the arson team really missed |
37782s | an opportunity to instead of calling it |
37784s | infused call it Juiced |
37789s | I think that would sound a lot better |
37795s | really yeah |
37799s | draw three cards |
37807s | I mean these trades always happen right |
37809s | yeah I think you trade the silly too |
37811s | because it's YouTube |
37813s | oh yeah but not at a range of more just |
37816s | ping okay can he kill off any more of |
37819s | his own meat |
37822s | quick muck pulls it |
37825s | Mark pulls the clock |
37828s | you can't dive it's not there |
37832s | I wouldn't mind using the muck pools on |
37834s | the press to |
37836s | I don't want to use it on anything |
37837s | actually |
37847s | yeah getting the order right |
37854s | foreign |
37858s | now it's gone |
37861s | it's okay though because |
37863s | in essence |
37865s | if Gregorius wins it will be because of |
37867s | glug |
37869s | look at how much that look at how much |
37872s | that glug has due to dinathrius TJ |
37876s | yeah |
37877s | you're right |
37882s | okay yeah |
37884s | bit of a problem for spring it's not the |
37887s | end of the world but what Amplified |
37891s | raw gain armor |
37894s | and okay I just want a mutants |
37898s | when he's mutinous no way |
37901s | this what are you saving for like |
37903s | just a brand alone |
37907s | for Gregorius just to play more minions |
37910s | yeah I think it's okay to just wait |
37911s | because I don't think this is that big a |
37913s | deal right yeah but Gregorius knows that |
37915s | the viewness is there so |
37920s | the earlier you can give out the better |
37921s | like I think this might even be just the |
37923s | deathrous to just deny the muteness |
37927s | then maybe the muck pools on the |
37929s | Sylvanas |
37935s | [Music] |
37939s | gregoris is actually running a little |
37941s | bit low on the older resources |
37947s | did you catch how much damage the |
37948s | dinathrius is doing |
37951s | nope we've been seeing Evolved first |
37957s | hey well yield it to an extent a little |
37960s | bit more stance |
37963s | oh the muteness oh |
37969s | definitely not the naturals because |
37972s | you're okay with them dealing seven yeah |
37974s | yeah guessing that was solid Alibi yeah |
37977s | yeah yeah makes sense |
37980s | and then I don't want to play any more |
37981s | minions because I want |
37985s | foreign |
37992s | that's better yeah leveling up the stats |
37995s | yeah anyway so yeah it's still going to |
37999s | be a bit of a problem with blizzard |
38001s | stalling this one out |
38013s | I was going for the train |
38018s | all right now Damascus |
38023s | yeah this looks good enough |
38027s | let's clear this up and pound on low |
38028s | depression what was that 18. not bad at |
38031s | all but still not great I mean spring is |
38034s | still now on a uh brightly 30 health |
38039s | but the good thing is now |
38041s | uh Gregorius is I think exactly dinathri |
38044s | is back in response right because there |
38047s | is not big enough |
38049s | at what one million died so it's our two |
38052s | you know skellies too so one Skelly oh |
38055s | one nine or something no death bonds or |
38058s | anything that's four TJ not five it's |
38061s | not six it's not even seven oh four oh |
38065s | geez |
38070s | got to be solid Alibi or spring is |
38072s | simply dead |
38074s | pools is gonna be online here for |
38076s | the null |
38079s | or even potentially the Devourer |
38084s | I wonder if there's a like |
38086s | time runs out on me you can activate the |
38088s | Devourer by trading the three four it |
38090s | must be close right |
38099s | oh maybe now you can just trade in fish |
38103s | oh no no man |
38107s | trade in one fish nope |
38110s | nope still no matter the same thing you |
38112s | did yep |
38115s | regardless you don't have the Mana |
38118s | I think it's like |
38123s | okay |
38128s | it was at the sea it was at least |
38131s | it could go for |
38134s | could go in a different route here |
38135s | actually and go like double |
38138s | like trade as much as possible and then |
38141s | just |
38141s | evolve the motresh and the um |
38146s | there |
38152s | is it gonna hit the Knoll |
38154s | oh my gosh playing with fire |
38159s | okay |
38164s | well it's pretty good yep |
38168s | yes I would like to turn my uh Rush |
38170s | meeting into a another dinathrius with |
38172s | lifesteal not bad |
38178s | oh geez the Safara yeah I've been |
38181s | waiting for a spell oh man in all |
38184s | honesty like |
38186s | no spring actually just go finally for |
38188s | ruin here |
38191s | might have to be because his hand is |
38193s | trash |
38195s | though but yeah otherwise like none of |
38199s | these other plays you can't just keep |
38200s | stalling well if didn't I just didn't |
38202s | want to get thrown away he should have |
38204s | been able to feel more damage |
38206s | oh spring sat up |
38209s | so I think oh uh gray stage prepared is |
38212s | a blizzard so that's good |
38216s | kids |
38221s | really good stuff picked up actually oh |
38223s | my gosh this Devourer is going to be |
38224s | massive though yeah and the problem is |
38227s | that's the second and last solid Alibi |
38230s | outside of a dawn grass pickup |
38235s | yeah you just slam this |
38239s | ah it even started with plus one plus |
38241s | one because of this half dragon |
38247s | Grand engineer okay this is not bad not |
38252s | at all |
38253s | love the cold |
38258s | double Frost |
38266s | uh |
38268s | there's a clown fish left |
38284s | in order to clear these up yeah good |
38287s | thing Halo for gregarious is he can |
38289s | actually just oh oh that's even better |
38293s | that is good he can also mug pulls the |
38296s | uh low adenathrius as well |
38303s | even though it will almost certainly |
38304s | lose the lifesteal of course it just |
38306s | heals up to bigger almost always |
38312s | gotta be deal six right |
38316s | oh wait heal you can just restore yeah |
38319s | yeah hear your minions |
38321s | oh yeah |
38323s | yeah play the long game seven |
38331s | did you say wow did you say Wildfire was |
38334s | wrong TJ |
38336s | apologize watch |
38341s | well not not this turn but oh right |
38343s | another turn all I'm hearing is their |
38346s | excuses TJ that's plus one damage |
38350s | foreign |
38351s | yeah but imagine like plus 18 damage |
38358s | what if he never gets the deal damage to |
38360s | face ever again |
38366s | [Applause] |
38374s | probably holds the Evolve right no need |
38376s | to use it even though the malygos isn't |
38378s | exactly hitting hard |
38380s | yeah no need to use it as a heel |
38386s | plenty of damage |
38391s | a dawn grasp you wish to match wits with |
38394s | me hey it's got it yourself yeah |
38399s | oh Mass polymorph oh no |
38404s | wildfire and Alabama solid Alibi okay |
38408s | but Mass polymorph was what what spring |
38411s | needed in that situation |
38414s | foreign |
38425s | [Applause] |
38430s | at this point there's a blizzard outside |
38433s | is there still two Rune of the archmage |
38436s | left |
38437s | yeah in the bottom eight |
38439s | I'm seven now |
38441s | yeah so you gotta go parrot dungeoneer I |
38444s | guess you could go uh yeah because you |
38445s | need to Rune next turn yeah I'm pretty |
38447s | sure |
38453s | the whales of these covenants kill me |
38457s | there it is |
38467s | the car oh it was uh Devourer right yeah |
38472s | yeah |
38476s | Paige is a funny deck to watch |
38481s | and this is just game one of the series |
38483s | I think we're gonna be here for a while |
38485s | you know what we might actually just run |
38487s | straight through to Sunday at this rate |
38492s | please now |
38502s | probably working out I mean attacks and |
38504s | freezes but is there really anything to |
38507s | work out here |
38508s | what what's the hero power at right now |
38511s | not 41. |
38519s | yeah but is there anything with like |
38520s | Reckless Apprentice can you Reckless |
38522s | Apprentice sanctum in Cold Case to live |
38527s | and make trades |
38534s | yeah |
38535s | I think that's the play |
38541s | because this is going to Beef It Up to |
38542s | five then you can make trades over over |
38547s | uh not quite the other dinathrius so |
38550s | that the naturals is gonna stick but |
38554s | quite |
38555s | there's double trades into it right |
38558s | he's got trades yeah he's the taunts |
38561s | tiger right |
38563s | oh yeah |
38565s | all right I uh thought that the first in |
38567s | atheros had already taken the |
38570s | uh Reckless Apprentice image |
38572s | just devour everything |
38576s | though |
38582s | it's already too big oh wait no no I |
38586s | forgot |
38589s | to do everything |
38594s | he's just gonna power it again |
38604s | goes with the muck pool oh okay I'm |
38607s | taking an excuse |
38608s | I think yeah it doesn't matter |
38612s | I was like I think you're supposed to |
38613s | rush first in case it gives you heal |
38615s | because you're attacking that no matter |
38616s | what right |
38618s | now if you wipe the board |
38620s | oh my God so many restores |
38623s | and no faces wow that second one was |
38627s | disappointing at best but still that set |
38629s | up lethal TJ because of the wildfire |
38634s | oh you're right you were right all along |
38636s | shut up see never question me |
38643s | all minions live |
38647s | this Spring's already gone |
38650s | oh wow what a game game one going to |
38654s | Gregorius and uh I told you guys at the |
38657s | start you need to learn to believe me |
38658s | it's gonna be a long one uh that was |
38661s | tricky at best and even with the um the |
38664s | mutinous being stolen and everything |
38666s | else I think just the raw value of a |
38669s | gregarious deck was just too much and |
38672s | especially when you compare it to those |
38673s | ruin of the arcame it's just both pretty |
38676s | much sitting at the bottom of the deck |
38678s | it was just not enough for spring to |
38680s | keep up |
38680s | yeah I had to spend too many resources |
38683s | to deal with the same board right bigger |
38686s | deal would have been if the uh don grasp |
38688s | had cast Mass polymorph instead of |
38690s | Arcanine right yep |
38693s | but um |
38695s | Well Done by Gregorius that's a those |
38697s | matchups are always pretty tough to |
38699s | navigate but I think he went about it |
38700s | quite well |
38703s | I hope you're ready TJ |
38706s | because we've got spring on the Mage |
38708s | once again going up against Gregorius on |
38710s | this Paladin and uh what do you think of |
38713s | this diet do you think this decks |
38714s | actually got legs or is it a deck people |
38716s | enjoy because they just enjoyed the |
38719s | style of it right they get to play the |
38721s | Jailer and all the big stuff |
38724s | uh I think the deck is pretty good but |
38727s | it has you know pretty |
38729s | glaring weaknesses |
38732s | uh in the fact that you just have very |
38734s | limited removal |
38735s | um |
38737s | and sometimes you're reliant on Discover |
38739s | effects to actually remove like larger |
38741s | boards |
38743s | like the the actual Jailer itself is a |
38746s | pretty hard card to set up |
38748s | but with you know ordering the court and |
38751s | the amount of you know just kind of |
38753s | early game board flood |
38756s | that you can do |
38758s | uh it can |
38761s | sometimes let you get to that point |
38763s | there's obviously a lot of players that |
38765s | are you know floating in pretty high |
38768s | Legend uh that play Jailer Paladin maybe |
38771s | not exclusively uh but that play it |
38773s | enough to let it be considered a top |
38777s | Legend deck right I just personally |
38779s | don't have too much faith in the deck |
38782s | I might just be bad though you know |
38784s | might |
38788s | I'm definitely bad |
38790s | let's get into game two spring I think |
38794s | that was just a one Wild Fire Keep was |
38796s | didn't you have two then offered |
38797s | interesting |
38798s | um Gregorius though the other hand as |
38801s | well |
38802s | I get a pretty solid Morgan for himself |
38804s | too |
38806s | he pinned it in arthrus got mukbang |
38809s | servant for turn three not looking too |
38811s | bad for either players so far honestly |
38818s | laughs |
38822s | double motherboard |
38828s | this is the one fair you have with this |
38830s | deck right is you Mulligan and it's just |
38832s | all your top end |
38834s | and you end up pressing hero power four |
38835s | five tens in a row |
38846s | I mean sometimes against trailer power |
38848s | that's all you need |
38850s | because I keep those one ones on board |
38852s | to make them immune later on with the |
38854s | daily |
38858s | I can see yeah I was gonna say I can see |
38860s | this just being an order in the court |
38861s | very very soon |
38863s | the whales of these |
38867s | cups now with denaturis in hand it will |
38869s | be Jayla into um Carol right |
38873s | yeah |
38894s | foreign |
38901s | I'm just like |
38903s | I see all these modern cards and my mind |
38906s | just like |
38908s | melts just it just stops |
38912s | but the powder that she just puts TJ's |
38915s | brain on pause |
38922s | yes here is |
38924s | uh gregarus will want to play Order in |
38927s | the Court on turn six right because then |
38929s | on turn seven Jayla draw and then on to |
38932s | an eight carry on we'll be drawn to yeah |
38935s | oh wet your whistle |
38940s | it's one thing that's kind of |
38941s | interesting right once gregarious |
38946s | goes |
38947s | yeah gets Carol online |
38949s | then as the Jailer follow-up |
38952s | at that point I is there much the Mage |
38956s | can do |
38961s | were you think of what I was thinking |
38963s | what were you thinking |
38966s | uh the horn the Cavalry horn |
38969s | oh I don't think there's any need it |
38972s | would be funny but |
38974s | there's no knees right like look at the |
38976s | hand oh I forgot about Ragnar's light |
38978s | Lord of course okay so yeah the turn |
38980s | earlier actually makes sense to make |
38982s | sure |
38984s | to make sure that you actually get there |
38985s | on it yeah yeah yeah I forgot about like |
38987s | ragnos |
38988s | and there's plenty of early games uh to |
38991s | get there so yeah I got plenty of stuff |
38993s | to do |
38995s | I just don't really know what spring can |
38997s | really do like against uh this wait |
39002s | wait to lose I guess I don't know maybe |
39004s | I'm missing something TJ but once Jayla |
39007s | comes down |
39008s | it's not like he's playing um you know |
39011s | ping Mage where you can say oh well at |
39013s | that point |
39014s | the fatigue damage starts hitting and |
39016s | I'm just still pinging for like five or |
39018s | six right so even though it's half from |
39020s | carrial |
39021s | um it can do that |
39023s | saying that'd be |
39027s | the guitar |
39030s | yeah spring does run rust drop Viper so |
39033s | that's something |
39035s | if you can get hold of it yeah but it |
39038s | still just feels like |
39042s | not enough |
39048s | I mean the pings are gonna start to ramp |
39050s | up but |
39055s | four not too bad |
39057s | Okay carry all though |
39064s | it just feels like you're just waiting |
39066s | to do the cool things with this deck |
39067s | it's like just give me a minute or |
39070s | battle vicar just I don't know |
39073s | pick a beige spell |
39077s | move on to the next one life |
39080s | that kind of power things just get you |
39081s | know just like more than one color |
39086s | there's some beige with a little bit of |
39088s | a olive green thrown in |
39090s | Wild battle vicar is beige with a little |
39093s | bit of some yellow tones |
39097s | yellow with more yellow on it yeah |
39104s | oh looks like we're going for a death |
39106s | born here |
39109s | I'll be able to get a little bit of an |
39110s | extra one with if the |
39113s | other that's on board hits one three |
39117s | be the full five |
39119s | I have an idea yeah but then it kind of |
39122s | laughs yeah never mind all that setup |
39126s | was uh not worth it |
39128s | so you like made trades |
39136s | I mean it's oh it's just Wildfire pink |
39138s | and just that's the plan for the rest of |
39140s | the game |
39145s | those pigs gotta get big |
39149s | [Music] |
39152s | stop Carol yeah okay Paladin has started |
39155s | to play the game |
39160s | it's of course not going to be any |
39162s | surprise for spring to see he pretty |
39165s | much knows what's on order for the next |
39167s | few turns |
39168s | probably a ragnos light Lord next turn |
39177s | okay |
39179s | said it didn't matter but you know we'll |
39182s | see |
39183s | it's just you gotta get through so much |
39188s | gorgeous really needs to trade these |
39190s | minions off right |
39193s | this trade trade trade |
39201s | yes |
39202s | I don't want these in me you don't |
39203s | immune warm ones on the board do you |
39205s | just like conviction hold the bridge |
39209s | hero power just it's embarrassing TJ If |
39212s | You're Gonna Play The Jailer you play |
39214s | the the big boys down afterwards |
39220s | yeah probably skip |
39222s | on |
39224s | light guide my patience yeah |
39227s | but if it is just trade trade trade hero |
39231s | power pass just play trailer next turn |
39240s | I'm running out of time it's quicker |
39243s | we're still even need this Leviathan on |
39245s | board |
39247s | he has ragnarok's light Lord that will |
39249s | be immune |
39250s | as dinathris |
39252s | they'll be immune and the jailer |
39258s | okay a couple of the one ones went that |
39260s | was my biggest gripe |
39271s | death bonds played I feel like it's just |
39273s | playing into gregoris's hands |
39276s | yes kill all of this it's fine yep four |
39280s | room for the big stuff |
39284s | foreign |
39290s | I'm upset this in just an absolute insta |
39294s | jailer |
39295s | I think it over don't put jail or any |
39298s | deck and then not play it on turn ten |
39300s | Madness |
39303s | light guide my patience |
39307s | Madness |
39318s | out of cars |
39326s | well all right |
39329s | well Reno's active |
39331s | we're on a clock one way or another |
39334s | kind of |
39336s | this dinner is rightmost light load |
39338s | underino |
39340s | that's what I mean like we're on a clock |
39342s | one way or another meaning |
39344s | like either Gregorius is going to win be |
39346s | quickly or spring is going to win pretty |
39349s | quick pretty quickly |
39353s | probably just denethrius right I'm not |
39355s | sure how much it's on but it doesn't |
39357s | also it can't be that high yeah but it |
39360s | also doesn't matter right you're playing |
39361s | it for the the lifesteal on the minion |
39363s | at this point yeah |
39365s | oh it's too fast |
39368s | it's upstairs 16 16. I got it I got it |
39375s | seems fine |
39380s | you're gonna spammy |
39384s | but that doesn't heal you for 16. |
39391s | the only other option here is like hero |
39393s | power rag |
39400s | it didn't need to heal for 16. I'm |
39402s | running out of time I mean I guess like |
39405s | I wouldn't mind it do a quality spammy |
39407s | in every skeleton ghost face yeah you're |
39411s | dead |
39416s | [Music] |
39417s | also he just doesn't have he just has a |
39420s | 1010 with lifesteal next to him |
39425s | but yeah it can get Frozen of course but |
39427s | and then there's this you just follow it |
39429s | with ragorino right |
39431s | yeah |
39433s | with the weapon gone this is potentially |
39435s | just |
39437s | I |
39440s | just giving spring a chance at like |
39442s | fatigue really stacking up it |
39448s | foreign |
39454s | okay |
39460s | there's nothing life sentence nothing |
39462s | jellyfish nothing happens nothing |
39466s | don't attack with the Jailer first |
39473s | oh my goodness gracious |
39478s | oh dude he's gonna play the dancers |
39482s | deployment objection wait did digital |
39484s | versus catch twice I don't think so |
39488s | gregoris is like oh no almost like in |
39491s | six almost like it would have been |
39493s | better if it was down last turn |
39495s | yeah he could just go |
39498s | hold the bridge right conviction holder |
39500s | hold the bridge Reno so at least he gets |
39502s | some heal no matter what attacking first |
39504s | at the spammy is just the correct play |
39505s | no matter what yeah because that gives |
39507s | you a lot of information and checks for |
39509s | ice barrier and then checks for a |
39511s | vengeful message |
39514s | foreign safely |
39527s | oh come on |
39530s | thank you okay |
39534s | I'm not going completely crazy |
39548s | foreign |
39551s | again for it to do nothing nothing |
39554s | nothing nothing and nothing |
39565s | I'll See Me minions can be Frozen as |
39568s | we've seen but not something that's |
39570s | obvious at the start right when you see |
39573s | your first yeah it says immune I think |
39575s | that's true I mean to what like you |
39577s | can't you can't Target them they're |
39579s | immune to being targeted |
39582s | um |
39583s | but Blizzard's not a Target it's the |
39585s | deal damage to minions and freeze them |
39587s | and their their immune to damage as well |
39590s | of course yeah yeah |
39593s | but the the freeze is not part of the |
39595s | damage it's something separate on |
39596s | blizzard |
39598s | I'm trying to make freeze part of the |
39599s | damage everyone |
39602s | out of here |
39608s | but the problem |
39610s | is that Springs to nathrius will try and |
39613s | Target these minions |
39617s | doesn't do too great but dummy |
39621s | to get a double Rune who knows what |
39624s | Secrets oh no and it was blizzard right |
39627s | oh yeah you're right it's blizzard |
39631s | twice |
39638s | [Music] |
39640s | now I do wonder if it is a uh oh I guess |
39644s | he can't Reno as well |
39650s | I was wondering if it's a theotar but |
39653s | it's probably just hero power Arena |
39655s | right to go back up to full |
39661s | yeah but then you're taking a lot |
39672s | Insanity |
39676s | hits the mordrush gives an equality |
39681s | and it feels a lot safer now yeah yeah |
39684s | because now there's no way that spring |
39686s | can really defend himself |
39691s | as the brand on board |
39695s | it's been after us enough to just like |
39698s | maybe no a one in a million to snipe a |
39703s | one in no no because there's five |
39706s | fatigue then there's eight on boards |
39709s | that's 13 so it needs to deal 20. |
39723s | wait a minute |
39725s | what |
39728s | does polymorph work |
39731s | I've literally never seen it in my life |
39736s | theoretically it should |
39740s | I I mean I don't really play much Jayla |
39742s | Paladin so obviously I've not had the |
39744s | most games with it but I've never run |
39746s | I'll never notified I've played it and |
39749s | I've never yeah I've never seen someone |
39750s | play me polymorph |
39753s | foreign |
39757s | that's what the convictions for |
39766s | who's she picking to be full of |
39767s | conviction to win the game |
39774s | I mean this |
39775s | too much to think about here for |
39777s | Gregorius right because he has two board |
39780s | spaces and two minions so there's you |
39783s | know at least none of those mental |
39785s | gymnastics you have to do sometimes but |
39787s | you have to really sit and think about |
39788s | what minion you want to commit and if |
39790s | it's actually worth it for the late game |
39792s | or not |
39793s | yeah I think this is just hero power |
39795s | mortgage trade off all the Minions yeah |
39798s | because he doesn't need Reno right he |
39799s | has the attack from dinathrius and has |
39802s | the heel from and ragnaros so it's |
39805s | absolutely fine I think Reno will be the |
39807s | I need to buy my last turn of fatigue |
39810s | right and do it's like the old Reno days |
39814s | oh actually gonna hold okay |
39817s | I I don't mind this I don't think |
39819s | there's even a rush to like |
39821s | blizzard another one |
39826s | face |
39829s | actually so so ridiculous |
39833s | that's six and then what sex fatigue |
39835s | damage |
39838s | yep so now it's effectively at 34 after |
39841s | the raglite Lord |
39843s | um there's one parrot left in the deck |
39848s | oh surely this is a |
39852s | oh dressed now right cause he's running |
39854s | out of time |
39861s | actually crazy how much time Spring's |
39863s | been in and why and still has one more |
39865s | turn with the solid Alibi and |
39867s | potentially even another turn with |
39870s | the parrot |
39874s | yeah I mean I still go all the way back |
39876s | and just question a whole turn most of |
39879s | Jayla was playing a three-fold |
39890s | yeah |
39893s | I assumed it would Ward work I've just |
39895s | never seen it |
39898s | not gonna not gonna solid alibi |
39901s | [Applause] |
39903s | now he will witness |
39905s | Wrath of the Sheep |
39908s | oh so spring wins from here right |
39914s | Rosie |
39916s | because the solid alibi |
39919s | the ghost has albino though right yeah |
39921s | but it doesn't matter because the damage |
39924s | is going to be so high |
39925s | yeah but he's got 16-16 mode rash if he |
39928s | just plays Mo dress now |
39930s | if if he plays more just now he's dead |
39934s | he doesn't know that though right |
39936s | I mean okay recklessness plus fatigue |
39940s | damage right guess my patience uh wait |
39943s | is that 21. it's uh eight fatigue the |
39947s | Ping is at five |
39949s | no it's not quite still can hold one |
39951s | more turn |
39954s | I mean Reno's not that small either |
39956s | could just hero power conviction Reno |
39964s | yeah but you want to wait until the last |
39965s | possible second to play the Reno which |
39967s | would be next turn because he knows |
39969s | there's one solid Alibi left |
39971s | oh yeah I'm just saying if he is if he's |
39974s | got something in his mind that he thinks |
39976s | he can die this turn he could still push |
39978s | a good solid amount of damage right yeah |
39980s | oh that's legal okay oh |
39985s | double Reckless series oh my gosh that |
39990s | is just so ridiculous like there was |
39996s | that was a good eight turn that was a |
39998s | solid eight turns |
40002s | because |
40003s | he was in eight fatigue so after the |
40006s | Jailer was played spring lasted eight |
40008s | turns |
40010s | and Dell oh my gosh an absurd amount of |
40013s | damage yeah and the um the Viper coming |
40016s | in close right imagine without that |
40017s | Viper not even close to enough damage |
40020s | literally the turn carry was played yeah |
40022s | literally the turn carry was played I I |
40024s | will say though like maybe I'm getting |
40027s | too caught up on it which is absolutely |
40028s | fine but the the spamiac in his turn |
40032s | well marginally pointless that could |
40034s | have been a whole turn of having an |
40036s | extra 10 10 on board |
40038s | yeah and and then you know does that |
40041s | accelerate the whole game one more turn |
40043s | maybe if it does that means one more |
40045s | turns worth of like high damage from |
40047s | Gregorius |
40048s | yeah and then suddenly it ends right |
40051s | even if you go back to like um |
40054s | the turn where not the turn that the |
40056s | Jailer was played but the turn uh prior |
40059s | to that right when the Levi uh the |
40062s | Leviathan yeah yeah |
40065s | um he just threw away a city ax |
40069s | true actually yeah the qual with a |
40071s | quality in hand |
40074s | oh yeah well that was the wait |
40077s | or was that that turn |
40079s | yeah he played a city tax to deal one |
40082s | damage uh when he could have just traded |
40084s | in a 3-2 |
40086s | yeah very odd I'm not sure that was the |
40089s | way to go there had to have been a |
40091s | reason for it but it just seemed weird |
40092s | because a quality plus city tax |
40096s | um lets you you know still push past a |
40099s | bunch of minions and it's that little |
40100s | bit of incremental heal yeah on the game |
40103s | may not have mattered because of the |
40104s | break points |
40107s | um but could have made like the spammy |
40108s | turn even just a tiny bit cleaner or a |
40111s | tiny bit of extra healing |
40113s | um very difficult one to to math out so |
40117s | we're now going to move over to Thief |
40118s | road we got a tied series one to one |
40122s | yeah it's going to be the Rogue from |
40124s | Spring going up against the priest from |
40126s | Gregorius and um |
40130s | oh geez |
40131s | yes oh my gosh well you know what let |
40136s | this be a lesson to everyone you |
40139s | bring decks like these and you get stuck |
40141s | in a series like this |
40144s | in the lower bracket of a group |
40147s | hopefully for worlds TJ lessons will be |
40150s | learned |
40151s | but yes it is going to be the Rogue |
40154s | versus the quest priest we are here we |
40157s | are living this life right now to |
40160s | generally slow decks uh of course the |
40163s | Rogue can just jackpot into something |
40165s | huge and run away with the game but the |
40167s | priest does have a lot of removal a lot |
40170s | of answers to any threats the one small |
40175s | tiny glimmer of light TJ is this is |
40178s | Quest priest and actually has a button |
40181s | that wins the game |
40184s | yeah |
40186s | unless |
40187s | don't |
40189s | I don't think I could take this |
40194s | there's some weird stuff that can happen |
40196s | yeah |
40199s | um |
40203s | you just got no words |
40209s | all my words |
40212s | they're all gone you've got nothing left |
40215s | that's every word I know |
40220s | you've said them you've completed the |
40222s | Game of Life |
40223s | said all the words |
40228s | all right let's get into it |
40231s | game three wait no this isn't |
40236s | oh it is wait what |
40242s | oh this is just a really interesting |
40245s | version of it |
40247s | it's still jackpot yeah yeah yeah |
40250s | it's still jackpot it has like a murder |
40252s | accusation which is pretty cool |
40256s | it's got a si7 extortions pretty cool |
40260s | it's just not got the secrets right |
40263s | uh yeah it just doesn't have the secrets |
40267s | but I feel like the secrets are just are |
40269s | pretty good because you have the uh |
40272s | tools that go along with them |
40274s | yeah I I like the secrets I actually |
40277s | like the secret package more than I like |
40279s | the jackpot stuff I would rather just |
40281s | play a secret Road deck except I don't |
40283s | think really one exists were you |
40285s | followed |
40287s | all right we got a one two three four |
40289s | five here |
40290s | for Gregorius |
40293s | I mean that's a very solid start to be |
40296s | fair like if Gregorius can actually just |
40298s | hard curve out then |
40303s | the game could potentially be shorter |
40305s | than we imagined |
40307s | yeah because there's no way that |
40311s | Brink can stop |
40314s | Gregorius just drawing the card and |
40317s | playing it right |
40318s | oh yeah you get Proving Grounds from |
40321s | jackpot |
40327s | I wish you hadn't played this deck |
40328s | enough TJ to know these things |
40341s | there's a there's a lot of weird stuff |
40345s | oh no not Proving Grounds uh whatever |
40347s | the other one is the Warrior One |
40349s | yeah I know which one you mean yeah the |
40351s | worst |
40353s | um I think it's the word oh it's Paladin |
40355s | wait what card |
40357s | uh I'll find it one second |
40361s | so far had it happened before |
40364s | Gregorius has a nice alternate option |
40366s | with the four drop now with drown |
40371s | means he doesn't have to just throw out |
40372s | another wing on board which again is |
40374s | useful like I said earlier this priest |
40376s | does run a ton of removal but you |
40378s | generally want to use it as removal and |
40380s | not Tempo tools for the fact he has that |
40383s | drowned to just say go away to a minion |
40385s | seems pretty soft lines |
40390s | uh Paladin it's Paladin front lines |
40393s | summon a Minion from each player's deck |
40395s | repeated until either side of the battle |
40396s | Battlefield is full |
40399s | okay |
40404s | that's the one I was thinking of |
40406s | wait how is that a problem |
40409s | what do you mean you don't get the you |
40412s | can you can play it and they it pulls |
40415s | the uh |
40417s | oh yeah |
40419s | yeah I know you're right |
40422s | yeah so it should be fine if Gregorius |
40425s | can actually no there's something |
40427s | there's something I know there's |
40428s | something I've done it before |
40431s | the only stuff I can think of off the |
40432s | top of my head is just making them burn |
40435s | cards by discovering cards that fill up |
40438s | their hands somehow but I can't think of |
40440s | an actual scenario I'm sure someone will |
40446s | wait can they get mutinous somehow and |
40449s | then they're just mutants the five drop |
40454s | uh |
40458s | there's gotta be a way yeah there's |
40460s | always a way what's that I did it before |
40462s | what it happened I feel like you made |
40464s | this up TJ without proof no I didn't I |
40466s | didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't |
40468s | okay okay here's what here's what it was |
40472s | um |
40474s | the |
40476s | ah it's the throttle that you get from |
40479s | reconnaissance okay |
40482s | um the uh four Mana two six |
40485s | priest death rattle card that gives you |
40489s | a copy of a card in your opponent's hand |
40491s | which is called an incriminating psychic |
40495s | okay |
40497s | and then you get identity theft |
40500s | and then you steal the code you identity |
40502s | theft is The Shard |
40505s | but then the game ends though on the |
40507s | deck |
40507s | but then the game ends because the other |
40509s | player does it yeah so at least |
40511s | something happens |
40517s | on the bottom of the deck yeah just just |
40520s | keep us up on the action I'm like |
40523s | looking for ways that okay go sideways |
40525s | EJ I've got one question for you before |
40527s | you go |
40528s | what action what |
40532s | got him |
40535s | uh there's another one too |
40537s | um it's tooth you tooth into |
40541s | uh |
40545s | what God I can't remember names of Arts |
40548s | you're just making up cards TJ it's fine |
40550s | you could admit it I'm not I'm not |
40553s | foreign |
40565s | and then |
40567s | you get the Harvester of Evie |
40569s | after you play a card copy from the |
40571s | event steal the original |
40573s | uh |
40576s | and then you just never play it and then |
40578s | spring just never plays the win |
40580s | condition and just says we're gonna |
40581s | carry on I'll beat you in fatigue yeah |
40587s | or it's their last card you play you |
40589s | hold on to a perjury the whole game and |
40592s | count pick counterspell as you get to |
40594s | get the one and six for the maid secret |
40596s | gamer spell |
40599s | oh now this jackpot on both sides that's |
40601s | what we want |
40603s | ease |
40605s | pyro and all foul breaks loose |
40609s | yeah |
40612s | yep I got that the other day when I was |
40614s | playing this uh the rogue deck and it |
40616s | did nothing |
40619s | yeah |
40621s | gotta be a demon somewhere in here |
40626s | you think there is no |
40629s | there will be by now means that are |
40631s | demon |
40632s | that must be |
40637s | I refuse to believe that they have zero |
40639s | demons |
40640s | or is it they don't have demons because |
40642s | priest itself is a demon |
40646s | yeah |
40648s | there's got to be a demon there's not |
40652s | the time has come |
40657s | yeah there's none |
40659s | okay well the one thing there is is a |
40661s | pyroblast that's also a wing condition |
40664s | yeah Gregorius can uh |
40667s | nickel spring down to 10 Health |
40679s | y I miss TJ plus progress we still need |
40682s | a six |
40684s | I miss when Shadow priests was |
40686s | overpowered |
40689s | we should bring back those decks |
40706s | [Laughter] |
40711s | do so much value it's a new show where |
40715s | we're gonna start |
40716s | um it's just clips of us making these |
40718s | noises and you've just got to decide |
40721s | whether we're laughing or crying |
40723s | he called lafo cry |
40729s | it's a clever name well look |
40732s | you understand the game right |
40734s | it's from knowing the name of the show |
40739s | how much time to think through this uh |
40741s | option here basically if it says five or |
40743s | six on it I think that's what we're |
40744s | going for |
40747s | I didn't even see the spell on the uh on |
40749s | the left was a clear conscience |
40752s | sure yeah I was clear conscious |
40757s | oops come down now |
40769s | what do you even take |
40771s | my shower it's still probably horn right |
40777s | to be obvious |
40782s | and then just hope you don't get that |
40784s | one |
40786s | okay oh |
40793s | or any other mix any death rattle mechs |
40798s | other classes |
40800s | I don't think Hunter's got any hunter |
40803s | you stop them right |
40809s | Mage has death row mix right |
40814s | I was saying that the only one I could |
40815s | think of is actually neutral but it's |
40817s | no space Elemental is an elemental |
40819s | I know |
40821s | I was thinking of the big boat or the |
40823s | big ship |
40829s | that was a mother boat I think it's |
40831s | called |
40833s | that's neutral Ring's like yeah got it |
40836s | off |
40838s | pick the Finley |
40841s | um I mean there's a |
40846s | public I'm struggling a Midas |
40851s | I'm like I can't remember card names I |
40853s | can't remember anything |
40855s | which is live for 12 hours |
40857s | I can't remember what my life was like |
40860s | before this series it was so long ago he |
40863s | couldn't have had this match like first |
40866s | or never I don't know or never sure why |
40870s | didn't they just win TJ oh |
40874s | yeah your Town's not bad the otar |
40879s | oh wait gregoris is still waiting on the |
40881s | six cost right |
40884s | yeah |
40888s | high five |
40898s | wait a minute |
40900s | wait a minute what if am I waiting to |
40902s | bring Place theater |
40907s | picks whatever card from your gorus oh I |
40910s | was gonna say and gives him scabs so |
40911s | they can play a rogue mirror |
40917s | they burnt a five drop wasn't a six drop |
40920s | so it's fine does have the near the |
40922s | Drake to be able to clear this up |
40924s | or condemned depending on Mana |
40927s | utilization |
40929s | I don't know what else is going to do |
40931s | this turn so I just wonder whether he |
40932s | wanted Dominion |
40933s | another Drake's now the Drake's not |
40936s | always active it's the quest it's our |
40940s | only hope |
40942s | this Whirlpool is our Obi-Wan of this |
40945s | game oh |
40947s | you want another theater do you want a |
40950s | queen ashara |
40953s | early Theo tar right because then you |
40956s | just failed Todd full of the queen of |
40958s | shower |
40959s | I wonder |
40962s | who Birds |
40964s | one drum |
40967s | yeah I took the theater |
40970s | he gave him all foul breaks loose |
40974s | all right let's start with a tooth |
40977s | or the hero power in it too now we can |
40979s | start with the trade that's fine too |
40998s | foreign |
41006s | I guess |
41008s | yeah so they both die makes sense may as |
41010s | well use the cards also is in fact a |
41012s | queen as well |
41016s | wait TJ you can win now right |
41021s | you can you can pull out all the Minions |
41023s | so they can never complete the quest |
41027s | oh neutral not what he was looking for |
41036s | their own menu okay |
41044s | yeah what if you did front lines |
41047s | wait a minute |
41049s | what's been dry all |
41051s | along far ahead of the |
41054s | head of the |
41055s | um wait oh that wouldn't work either |
41058s | because there's uh oh yeah I'd work for |
41060s | sevens if you pull out mutinous and |
41062s | behemoth |
41064s | they can never get a seven oh my God |
41067s | is it actually the correct play |
41070s | yeah but then you're just faced with a |
41071s | board full of potentially you just died |
41074s | yeah like you you get like two Spirit |
41077s | guides two light shower Elementals a |
41079s | behemoth you're like ah but they can't |
41083s | Conquest reward me from your deck you're |
41086s | pulling a Knoll a couple of tricksters |
41088s | that's fine a Maestra |
41094s | all right we made it |
41098s | quickly now we just need seven to eight |
41100s | and then now on the back nine of the |
41102s | course |
41104s | and then grigors does have a little bit |
41106s | of extra card drawer now with that |
41108s | Cathedral |
41109s | bring |
41112s | all right looks like yeah he's gonna |
41115s | have to go for Contraband stash because |
41116s | he's just got nothing else or something |
41118s | of the jackpot now |
41124s | I love that summoning order |
41128s | wait was that it |
41130s | [Music] |
41133s | yeah that's it |
41135s | we've been in for this long and that's |
41137s | all Contraband stash could do |
41141s | is that that's all we'll get |
41145s | really |
41152s | okay |
41154s | so TJ this feels fancy but could this |
41157s | not have just been whirlpool |
41162s | you progress that Quest |
41175s | oh I think they're quite bad as well |
41182s | they're certainly not good |
41184s | all right here we go we got a Mite on |
41186s | the bottom of the deck |
41188s | get to the Shadows |
41191s | wait what |
41195s | oh no because it was shoved |
41198s | okay it was what I'm talking about the |
41202s | uh the deck was shuffled |
41205s | oh yeah |
41211s | the first meter she can just rest easy |
41214s | the first video yeah but yeah but drown |
41216s | puts it to the bottom of the player who |
41219s | drowns its deck right |
41226s | I don't think so you drowned an enemy |
41230s | minion and then that minion goes to the |
41231s | bottom of your deck and that's the |
41233s | second meter he just some yeah |
41237s | I think so anyway |
41238s | yeah yeah |
41240s | I think you're right |
41248s | my bad shows how much I played drowned |
41251s | okay you just keep working on that way |
41253s | that Rogue can win it it can't the two |
41257s | ways that it can happen |
41261s | you front lines and you you pull out |
41264s | their sevens and you stop from |
41266s | completing the quest and then somehow |
41267s | you also kill them |
41269s | it's like you you need Trickster |
41272s | you need to pull front lines and |
41274s | whirlpool |
41276s | and then you trickster front lines and |
41279s | then trickster Whirlpool okay |
41282s | most importantly also you also need to |
41284s | have something to kill off your minion |
41285s | because you'll summon minions until the |
41287s | board is full so the board will be full |
41289s | so then you need to have a trickster |
41292s | front lines |
41294s | bone spike your trickster and then you |
41297s | trickster again any Whirlpool boom no |
41300s | way to complete the quest |
41301s | and then as soon as you draw seven you |
41304s | play it so they can't identity that |
41308s | Hans perfect |
41310s | easy |
41312s | oh we didn't need to play the whirlpool |
41314s | okay |
41319s | as I Relic the sanctified |
41324s | foreign |
41327s | s of healing coming out |
41330s | from jackpot jackpot time |
41333s | what what can jack get that will get the |
41337s | zirella |
41342s | wait the um |
41343s | oh no maybe not |
41346s | I'm in TJ mode thinking of crazy stuff |
41349s | yeah he needs a way to discover a rogue |
41352s | minion |
41354s | then he gets the new minion that people |
41357s | play that if you have a secret you can |
41359s | throw away a card from the opponent's |
41361s | Gravedigger yeah to put it back in the |
41364s | deck and then hope it's the last card |
41368s | and you'd probably still lose |
41380s | again |
41386s | doesn't even want to flip her friends |
41387s | beforehand |
41395s | I guess the attack's off though now with |
41397s | the two threes right |
41399s | definitely very clean |
41415s | this clean the scene is very smooth |
41417s | there's possirella right okay |
41421s | all right here we go |
41424s | count it down 16 cards remaining |
41434s | come on top of the deck |
41438s | foreign |
41446s | Bowl action |
41452s | I mean this is probably just denaturis |
41454s | at this point right |
41458s | at least from Spring's point of view uh |
41461s | that's deal damage right from |
41465s | from zirella |
41468s | oh yeah just anatrius but like go and |
41473s | there's double Wicked stab in the deck |
41476s | ah it's divine tall turn |
41481s | oh yeah if you like this whole series is |
41483s | divine troll time but you know |
41487s | oh only a couple one on the actual |
41489s | attack |
41491s | attackable minion and then they can |
41494s | attack |
41495s | I mean it's putting on pressure how big |
41497s | is dinathrius that's the question it's |
41499s | been in hand for about 20 years by now |
41502s | TJ |
41503s | okay so next turn is like Tess Wicked |
41507s | stab face |
41509s | right and then dinathris to finish |
41514s | well I mean there's a chance depending |
41517s | on how this goes I'm guessing gregoro |
41519s | still has to just Whirlpool this I was |
41522s | gonna say there's a chance it's just |
41523s | hero power Wicked stabbed in atheros |
41528s | could be |
41529s | you say the the uh medal lives |
41535s | oh |
41549s | I did not react he could have killed the |
41552s | Knoll also by just buffing it |
41555s | can't be |
41558s | he also could have just started the turn |
41559s | by buffing the Knoll yeah I could have |
41561s | just drawn the the thing right yeah it |
41563s | could have just won the game yeah |
41566s | but this could be a it'd be three |
41568s | through theater but it'd be a dead Knoll |
41575s | no denaturis now that is such a big deal |
41578s | what is it was it 21 I think I saw |
41583s | you have no idea |
41585s | [Music] |
41589s | oh oh okay yeah that's the good one yeah |
41594s | I'm trying for two hits on the theater |
41596s | okay but not on the null okay |
41602s | remember the screenshot I sent you the |
41604s | other day |
41607s | oh there's another one |
41610s | I mean infinite |
41614s | oh my God |
41618s | next turn can replay to actually get oh |
41621s | objection |
41622s | okay |
41624s | I mean Gregorius uh he's in a test with |
41628s | desperate Perry I think that's |
41630s | counterspell hey |
41632s | surely this is Finley right |
41636s | so spindly for the win |
41641s | I mean it's probably nice probably |
41642s | Whirlpool more reasonably but |
41645s | what would you do with the family what |
41647s | were you what are you trying to get |
41649s | the win condition |
41651s | oh the 10 Mana spell that you can play |
41654s | yes just so it's finally in hand |
41659s | finally after I'm not saying he had to |
41662s | do it straight away good just AOE first |
41664s | then spindly yeah |
41667s | he now knows it's not count as well yeah |
41669s | there we go get those cards to the |
41671s | bottom they don't win you the game |
41673s | yeah well it's just gonna get eaten by |
41674s | the objective |
41676s | but at least he knows |
41686s | how many fragments are there |
41688s | many |
41690s | the tracker actually say |
41692s | uh apparently four but I'm not sure if I |
41695s | believe that |
41696s | uh no it's all six of the cards that are |
41699s | left in the deck are oh no there's one |
41702s | prep and five shards okay wait no no |
41706s | because one is the uh all fell breaks |
41708s | loose so yeah it is right there's a prep |
41710s | in all felbergs lose and four fragments |
41712s | and once again the Divine troll doesn't |
41716s | hit the Minions that attack |
41718s | and now there's two yeah and that's |
41720s | again but okay hit the prep oh wait the |
41722s | moment they're going again |
41727s | replays objection as well but regardless |
41730s | of knows now to that subjection right |
41734s | he knows it's not trying to spell so he |
41736s | knows if he gets hold of the win |
41737s | Condition it's game over yeah but he |
41739s | can't play dinathrius |
41742s | right now and there's a lot of damage |
41745s | there's two Wicked stabs in hand |
41755s | I mean I I feel like it just has to be |
41758s | right now |
41760s | I think it does |
41765s | um |
41770s | what about hero power light bomb |
41775s | that leaves a and it leaves 12 on board |
41779s | yes |
41782s | he died a double Wicket snap yeah |
41790s | and if you just play light shower |
41791s | Elementals |
41796s | I mean it's got to be like I think he's |
41798s | dead |
41800s | I also think he's dead because of the |
41804s | double Wicked stops right |
41806s | yeah |
41808s | so you got to take out the uh |
41811s | colossal |
41813s | yeah |
41814s | oh wait I didn't even count the two one |
41816s | I forgot one of the the little oily |
41819s | Thing Lives |
41821s | 14. yeah it's dead |
41832s | oh my gosh that's insane |
41836s | how does that even happen |
41843s | uh even the dinathris was stolen like |
41846s | all sorts went on that game but it just |
41849s | wasn't enough the infinite Mida |
41851s | was enough there for spring to get the |
41853s | win |
41854s | and wow |
41856s | there's more where that came from |
41861s | them didn't win because then we could |
41865s | have had on one side another game of |
41867s | defrog but on the other side they're not |
41870s | game of quest priests yeah well now it's |
41873s | just Paladin left for spring |
41876s | um and I'm just waiting to see what uh |
41879s | gregoris is gonna lock in next I go back |
41882s | to the Paladin so we're at the Paladin |
41884s | mirror or a priest versus Paladin |
41886s | matchup and we'll have to see how this |
41888s | one goes TJ you look very happy in this |
41891s | thank you |
41892s | I want to have Saul's day |
41895s | yeah put his feet open does nothing as |
41897s | usual |
41902s | but yeah the this was this is a |
41905s | mind melter this one isn't it imagine |
41909s | being just either of these two players |
41912s | playing through that not only this whole |
41914s | series which is obviously going on for a |
41916s | while but this game |
41918s | and then imagine you gregoris after all |
41920s | that you just get got |
41923s | and it's happened twice it happened in |
41925s | the maid versus Paladin game yeah like |
41927s | felt like he was in such a good spot |
41929s | lost |
41930s | priest felt like he was in such a good |
41932s | spot lost |
41933s | [Music] |
41936s | okay |
41938s | gonna be the last deck for spring it's |
41941s | the Jailer Paladin |
41944s | standard build of it not a single card |
41947s | uh difference across wait no there is |
41950s | there is it's yeah I couldn't quite see |
41952s | what was different but something was is |
41954s | it the restaurant |
41957s | um uh yeah it's one bunker Sergeant for |
41960s | Gregorius uh yeah Russ no they both have |
41963s | one restaurant Viper |
41966s | um |
41967s | [Music] |
41970s | uh the ragnaros |
41972s | so it's minus |
41974s | so it's plus minus one ragnaros |
41978s | plus one bunker Sergeant there's also a |
41982s | Battlegrounds Battle Master in Springs |
41983s | list and not in uh gregoris as well oh |
41987s | geez now I have to find another |
41988s | difference oh wait two spammy two |
41991s | treasure gods |
41994s | and no treasure guards in gregoris |
41996s | either |
41997s | oh geez there's so many different yeah |
41999s | there's there's differences |
42002s | no venomous carpet so Springs is more |
42005s | focused on early game it seems and |
42007s | fighting against maybe the more |
42009s | aggressive decks |
42010s | because there's uh smaller like game |
42014s | Power whereas |
42015s | uh maybe not because Gregorius has a |
42018s | spammy |
42020s | yeah I think they've just tacked |
42022s | differently right because even though um |
42025s | spring doesn't have like rag for example |
42028s | it's been background's Battle Master |
42030s | right like even though it doesn't heal |
42031s | like that does a ton of extra damage |
42034s | especially if you've got like Jailer and |
42035s | denaturis already on board so he's got |
42037s | like a bigger finisher and some a couple |
42041s | of different or earlier game tools |
42043s | probably mainly to fight warlock I |
42044s | imagined |
42045s | yeah |
42049s | that's gonna be a pretty |
42052s | sizable menu now although it's that I'll |
42055s | actually pick treasure guard right |
42057s | okay |
42061s | really it's not too heavy |
42067s | playing cards yep |
42070s | that's what you like to see though this |
42072s | would be a nice little clean xirella |
42076s | and that'll be Quest completion as well |
42079s | at least the first portion one two three |
42081s | four |
42083s | sorry one two zero four |
42086s | that's definitely how numbers work |
42095s | and |
42098s | Minion because a five is where like a |
42102s | spirit guide would be |
42112s | rip the light it burns |
42116s | hope it's not spell oh he's gonna check |
42122s | okay well it worked out okay I ended a |
42125s | free prayer |
42127s | nice |
42132s | reporting for Duty |
42134s | the Queens travel this forbidden |
42138s | oh hey treasure god there |
42141s | yeah we can start thinking about |
42144s | um ordering the court now |
42148s | and also TJ this is what I'm talking |
42150s | about let's pick up the pace of play I |
42154s | like this I've got a five drop I need to |
42156s | play a five drop boom five drop played |
42158s | next |
42161s | step the light guides you |
42166s | pick a throwaway spell to test for |
42168s | counterspell Reckoning |
42170s | though invigorating sermon |
42176s | that's me wouldn't play order this turn |
42178s | but oh wait I'll take it and not play it |
42181s | anyway okay yeah I can throw the service |
42183s | Bell into the counter spell |
42186s | try not this turn you can just do it for |
42188s | free next turn |
42190s | in varying sermon has to be really good |
42193s | though because that's just permanent |
42195s | stats because once the jailers played |
42198s | they can't be messed with |
42202s | hey just have to use it this turn if he |
42204s | wants it for free though right isn't |
42205s | three one was the only draw or make it |
42208s | oh yeah right indicator yeah so you will |
42211s | have to throw that now if he wants to |
42213s | test for it for free he decides he does |
42215s | not |
42216s | okay |
42217s | oh that is the juiciest nether Drake |
42220s | look at that |
42223s | is but does it progress the quest no but |
42227s | none of this stuff does the light shower |
42229s | right yeah |
42231s | easy slime light shower ever |
42235s | let's see |
42246s | only gonna have to think about this uh |
42247s | ordering the court |
42253s | and Gregorius has the mutinous which |
42256s | Order in the Court will guarantee a good |
42258s | muteness Target is at least in the hand |
42260s | [Music] |
42263s | just decided to throw it away into the |
42265s | cow spell okay |
42269s | I would rather have the invigorating |
42271s | sermon oh my God we'll drop off the Bell |
42277s | yeah or the Bell yeah I mean service |
42279s | spell can be |
42281s | uh pretty good |
42282s | is it better than the backbone of your |
42285s | deck though you just play Sarah spell |
42287s | and then pick the other one I guess |
42291s | but that seems like extra steps to do |
42294s | the same thing yeah and also not even |
42297s | close to a carry along curve at this |
42299s | point |
42300s | yeah but maybe he doesn't care maybe he |
42303s | wants to eat out a little bit more value |
42304s | in the deck before he uh |
42306s | tailors it up and destroys it I mean he |
42309s | played invigorating sermon after all |
42311s | like |
42312s | he needs to get some value out of it |
42315s | just get a couple more minutes from the |
42317s | deck before you uh |
42319s | Order in the Court and play the jailer |
42337s | I'd look a potentially going for the |
42338s | theater to try and steal a seven drop |
42344s | the Caroline so this is a 5'4 |
42348s | that is an accurate statement |
42354s | oh there's a five |
42357s | not that good |
42360s | it's not right now |
42363s | still not bad actually a pretty buffed |
42366s | bunker sergeant |
42369s | I was on 70 what was the violent that he |
42370s | played |
42374s | you played the uh the five drop taunt |
42375s | right the whole uh holy Shadow spell |
42379s | draw that's right that's weird |
42383s | looking right at it and I don't even |
42384s | remember |
42387s | my question will be discovered either |
42391s | the question here is |
42394s | Gregorius just play Whirlpool next turn |
42399s | well if a light Ray comes out yeah |
42402s | okay but say the board wasn't |
42404s | threatening |
42406s | would you just play whirlpool and just |
42407s | say well yeah it wipes the board but |
42410s | I have my zyrela next to |
42414s | yeah |
42416s | so right |
42421s | building a bit of a a race against the |
42423s | clock |
42425s | what |
42435s | hasn't really played many Paladin cards |
42437s | this game |
42438s | oh |
42442s | that's a bitter eight |
42444s | mm-hmm |
42447s | or Viper oh now you don't need Viper |
42450s | what am I talking about |
42453s | the shot and the game goes you've only |
42456s | half one |
42458s | you get half a win |
42470s | what is this discover even from |
42474s | different Universe at this point I don't |
42476s | know quickly |
42479s | hand and deck |
42481s | is there a third option oh it's scorpion |
42484s | it's a scorpion oh okay |
42490s | just like not even seeing which means |
42491s | yeah |
42506s | their righteous defense is |
42510s | large |
42522s | I went in the theater |
42525s | hold on to the theater for when the bus |
42526s | is complete |
42533s | oh really |
42538s | Bad Manners |
42542s | that correct |
42552s | we've gone to some strange places this |
42555s | game TJ first The Order in the Court has |
42557s | been thrown into account spell |
42559s | and now the Theo tar being used to just |
42562s | do stuff |
42566s | I mean I guess it's 11 12 but this |
42569s | priest deck is like 80 removal like it's |
42572s | not like you surely you know spring |
42574s | isn't expecting it's 11 12 to live |
42580s | now that Gregorius has seen the the atar |
42583s | can just go ahead and yeah go away we'll |
42586s | pull this away |
42587s | yep |
42593s | I must consider there's no muteness in |
42597s | the deck |
42610s | now look how bad the hand is here for |
42612s | spring oh it's terrible well |
42616s | the reason people believe in play |
42619s | Paladin right now is because it has |
42622s | Order in the Court right because this |
42624s | looks like the Paladin hands we used to |
42626s | see known people were playing pal did it |
42629s | was just like well you need to curve |
42631s | exactly right or your hand's gonna be |
42633s | trash you always need carry along curve |
42636s | but this board has just been batted away |
42638s | here from gregoris die rather than |
42641s | Sanctified hits the board and now it's |
42643s | just a matter of time in Gregorius not |
42647s | only has like Leviathan tons of AOE |
42649s | still left over but he just has a Carol |
42652s | of his own |
42653s | time has come |
42655s | he's going to give him all the time in |
42657s | the world |
42658s | oh oh kind of oh |
42664s | Paladin can stop us nope |
42668s | ah not a single way |
42672s | right you know what they should do for |
42673s | game five |
42677s | rock paper scissors |
42682s | oh it's Paladin versus Paladin yeah oh |
42685s | geez okay Jayla versus Jayla let's go |
42688s | I'm ready for that TJ |
42697s | at that point Mass but yeah and |
42700s | Gregorius takes the victory |
42704s | we're going to game five |
42706s | as TJ just said Paladin versus Paladin |
42709s | and they're you know bringing this |
42710s | background to some actual sensible |
42712s | Hearthstone discussion I do think spring |
42715s | had multiple questionable decisions in |
42718s | that specific game I think yeah the risk |
42721s | in the Order in the Court the whole sort |
42723s | of build of the deck uh into a potential |
42726s | counter spell when he had better spells |
42729s | to just throw away into like the zero |
42730s | cost Bell and then just not ended up |
42734s | getting the second one and then also |
42736s | just going for the um the theater I get |
42739s | like in this position there it's a big |
42740s | threatening minion but gregoris is |
42743s | barely up to kill anything in this game |
42744s | right so the hand is obviously full of |
42748s | like a million different ways to remove |
42749s | the ball or at least the one big minion |
42751s | on it |
42752s | yeah yeah it was |
42756s | not not sure not sure you know theatar |
42759s | obviously was probably like a 1-3 to |
42763s | even hit the zyrella at that point but I |
42766s | feel like with the way the game was |
42767s | going you take those I mean it's better |
42769s | than in utero right yeah yeah |
42775s | it was another one but I will say as |
42777s | well as TJ mentioned before uh today has |
42780s | gone just a little bit longer than |
42781s | yesterday And as time is taking on of |
42784s | course uh it's awkward times for The |
42787s | Players especially on the Asia Pacific |
42789s | side of uh the time zones uh towards |
42791s | that way so they're probably going to |
42793s | feel it a lot more than we are about |
42795s | it's gamer hours |
42797s | well I'm an old man TJ my gamer hours |
42800s | are in the solid Sunshine hours of the |
42803s | day so this is the Europe uh |
42806s | time zone tournament |
42808s | but like uh |
42812s | um |
42813s | this is like a specific middle of the |
42816s | night if not very early morning right |
42818s | well yeah it's exactly they're exactly |
42820s | 12 hour difference from me it's the |
42821s | opposite clock so the tournament started |
42823s | at 2 30 p.m and it is now 2 30 A.M |
42827s | that's incr for uh for a gamer schedule |
42830s | that's incredibly reasonable no it's not |
42834s | this gamer not me not me either the same |
42837s | boat as you |
42839s | know game number five again it's been a |
42843s | while to be fair but if you've forgotten |
42845s | what the stakes are for this match the |
42847s | winner moves on |
42850s | face xmg in the decider match for the |
42854s | group the winner of that we'll move on |
42856s | to tomorrow and have a chance at the |
42857s | world championship |
42858s | the loser unfortunately |
42862s | is done not only for the day but for the |
42863s | weekend |
42864s | whip your whistle |
42869s | and it's coming down |
42870s | with Jailer Paladin mirror |
42875s | how else would you want it to end |
42878s | uh literally any other way how about |
42881s | that |
42883s | okay maybe not that okay you got me |
42887s | yeah you got me there regoris does have |
42890s | the restaurant Viper ready to go I would |
42893s | imagine it's very unlikely that we'll |
42895s | ever see that Trader build away |
42897s | yeah you'd just rather have it |