[2022] Masters Tour Voyage to the Sunken City Day 2 | Swiss Rounds 5-8 | Hearthstone Dev Tracker

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973s	i didn't even see that that's insane
975s	what the heck
976s	that is incredible that's every minute
978s	destroyed
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985s	the bless that's just lethal right
987s	bless the popeyos it's like he's still
989s	going oh i can't imagine this doesn't
992s	end up being lethal at some point
994s	it's just dead on turn five just he just
997s	played a rod and then fell over
1000s	you got to do this entire game
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1014s	hello everybody and welcome to day
1017s	number two of masters tour voyage to the
1019s	sunken city my name is cj i'm joined by
1022s	neil larinda bond to help me kick off
1024s	the show today my america's
1027s	previous americas i know
1030s	cool
1031s	yeah how you doing on this fine day
1033s	absolutely great tj can't wait for day
1036s	two it's always one of my favorite days
1037s	i mean one-off there's only three to
1039s	choose from so that's not that great a
1041s	description but day two is where it all
1043s	happens we might find out some of the
1045s	players who are going to seasonal
1046s	championships today we might find out
1047s	people going to last call today gonna
1049s	resolve a lot of stuff and of course
1050s	we're gonna find out our top 16 so yeah
1052s	it's going to be a good one tj and i
1054s	don't think yet we have really worked
1056s	out what this meta is so further
1058s	insight into that by the end of the day
1062s	yeah there's a lot of decks floating
1064s	around the top at least in terms of like
1066s	win rate uh that players may not have
1069s	necessarily expected uh coming into the
1071s	tournament um but we'll jump into that
1073s	as we uh start getting into the
1075s	individual matchups first off we gotta
1077s	you know
1078s	tidy up around here and talk about what
1080s	we're actually watching we're going to
1082s	be playing conquest we have been playing
1084s	conquest
1085s	which is our standard masters tour
1086s	format four decks for player four unique
1088s	classes you ban one from your opponent
1090s	at the beginning of the series and then
1091s	you play a best of five match with the
1093s	remaining classes
1095s	where you cannot win with the same deck
1097s	twice and you need to win with all three
1099s	of your decks in order to be claimed the
1101s	winner of this series
1104s	um and uh yesterday we broadcast the
1106s	first four rounds of swiss today we're
1107s	going to be broadcasting the last four
1109s	rounds of swiss and then tomorrow we
1111s	play all the way through straight
1113s	through that top 16.
1116s	um
1117s	and i also this is
1120s	at the very least in my top three
1123s	favorite dates of a master's tour deal
1126s	yet one of the best three days i'm
1128s	really concerned that he's only got one
1129s	hand on that wheel when he's driving
1131s	that or however whatever you do to
1133s	ship steering the ship he's got like one
1135s	hand on the wheel and the other hand's
1136s	just like yeah like you gotta be more
1139s	careful than that when you're driving
1141s	i don't even know what you're talking
1142s	about the picture image
1145s	yeah the image of the words that you
1146s	just read word for word out on screen
1149s	there's a there's a guy and he's got one
1150s	hand on the wheel the other hand is just
1151s	like chilling and it's like no you've
1153s	got to have the ten to two position and
1155s	drive properly otherwise you'll crash
1156s	i'm concerned it's early in the morning
1158s	there's water leaking in behind me
1160s	already because of it i
1162s	yeah i'm saying you got to make sure
1164s	you're driving on the
1165s	left side of the road
1168s	sure let's go with that because as
1169s	americans that's
1170s	no we driving on the right in america
1172s	here
1174s	oh yeah that's right sorry
1176s	i forgot for a second that we were
1178s	uh that
1180s	us fellow americans
1182s	were in fact american we do drive on the
1183s	right side of the road unless it's a
1185s	one-way street and you got to turn left
1186s	then you drive left side of the road
1188s	we'll drive back um you're fine
1190s	or drive backwards baseball tj is the
1193s	best bit let's not mess it up
1195s	fourteen thousand dollars for first
1196s	place
1197s	ten thousand dollars for seven
1199s	for second place and seven thousand the
1201s	sweet spot where you get 500 per win
1204s	third and fourth
1205s	yeah and one of the cool things about
1208s	the master tour prize pool is that um if
1210s	you get six place you get four thousand
1212s	dollars if you get seventh place you get
1214s	four thousand dollars if you get fifth
1217s	place you'll also get four thousand
1219s	dollars and if you get eighth place you
1221s	get four thousand dollars pretty cool
1223s	little uh you know interaction there
1225s	where fifth sixth seventh and eighth all
1227s	earned four thousand dollars
1230s	um yeah just wanted to point that out
1231s	something that i thought was cool here
1233s	on my uh one of my top three days of uh
1236s	of a master's tour i'm glad you didn't
1238s	pick the bottom one today because you'll
1239s	be going 9 10 all the way up to 16
1242s	through 11 12 15 13 11 and whatever the
1244s	other one is 10 probably so i'm glad you
1246s	didn't have to read out all those
1247s	numbers because that just slowed us down
1249s	considerably as we are waiting to get
1251s	into our first match of the day of
1252s	course so we're adding some extra flavor
1255s	for you today this morning
1257s	that's right
1259s	um yesterday this was the match of the
1261s	day for me orange versus fascino he was
1264s	absolutely amazing match that one orange
1267s	somehow
1268s	against the odds several times finding a
1270s	way to a 3-2 victory and keeping himself
1272s	in contention for that seasonal
1274s	championships after getting a 0-3 start
1277s	in the first masters tour of the year i
1279s	think he needs maybe seven maybe eight
1281s	eight wins today and he'll get in there
1282s	and that would be an astounding story
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1286s	it certainly would be
1288s	yeah um
1289s	we went right back to the beginning of
1292s	the day uh with uh meaty taking down
1295s	gabby gabby not having the best start
1296s	however meaty
1298s	currently at 4-0 uh one of the many
1300s	players uh 23 players to be exact at
1303s	that 4-0 mark so
1305s	meaty having a
1307s	fantastic master performance thus far we
1310s	actually have a lot of big names at 4-0
1312s	which uh we'll
1314s	get to in a moment
1316s	but i think yesterday you know at least
1318s	in the matches we saw on broadcast was
1320s	uh kind of an eye-opener
1322s	um an eye-opener to you know decks that
1324s	like i said the beginning we didn't
1326s	expect to have much success having
1328s	success some archetypes that we may not
1330s	necessarily have seen as much in a
1333s	ladder environment having success
1335s	like not the traditional control paladin
1337s	but obviously the dragon control pound
1339s	that you just saw from dragon man
1344s	we got to see some colossal casters in
1347s	neil sottle and i
1349s	uh whose heads were all just massive uh
1353s	yesterday and we also saw a demon hunter
1356s	have a good time against control warrior
1358s	pretty much the whole day on broadcast
1361s	uh which seemed a little bit backwards
1363s	given what we all expected coming into
1365s	this tournament
1366s	all apart from raven who was saying that
1369s	he just thinks demon hunter is going to
1370s	beat control while we and it just you
1372s	know we won't talk about too much
1373s	because raven was right so far but yeah
1376s	it seemed to be doing really well
1378s	another play there in those highlights
1379s	that you should pick out if you get to
1381s	see them again at any point was the
1383s	board clear using the spammy arcanist
1385s	from
1387s	um amazingly amazingly how quickly he
1390s	worked it out he was just ready
1393s	i saw it like 15 seconds before he did
1395s	um i mean yeah i mean you would of
1397s	course you know
1399s	you started an hour before he did just
1401s	you've been sitting there all night
1402s	working if this board state comes up how
1404s	would i do it and you got there just
1406s	before him well done
1408s	yeah that's what i do for my prep for
1411s	master stories is i just look at spammy
1412s	arcanist clears been doing it since the
1414s	file it's just uh second nature to me
1417s	um but let's go ahead and take a look at
1420s	some of our four row players like i said
1421s	there's 23 of them so there's
1423s	going to be some players that are left
1425s	off uh this uh
1427s	this graphic here some of them we
1429s	already talked about like orange and
1431s	meaty
1433s	but we also have viper 94 fribs cursed
1436s	wooben
1437s	uh
1438s	lucas
1439s	yep e-m-n-a-s-c
1442s	um
1444s	you know been
1445s	casting him
1446s	throughout
1447s	what like six years now and still don't
1449s	know
1450s	it's still just his demons
1453s	exactly
1455s	uh but uh like you said habigabu up
1457s	there trahisin uh moyan a player that's
1459s	been around for a long time we got
1461s	bunnyhopper uh cheesy10
1465s	erica's player uh who's also been around
1467s	for a long time i remember casting
1469s	cheesy 10 in playoffs all the way back
1471s	in like what 2015 2016.
1474s	um letta and then uh ghost right up
1477s	there at the top um these are listed in
1480s	order of like current
1482s	uh tiebreaker score
1485s	so um the players at the top end of the
1488s	bracket
1489s	like ghost kwanwu adriano um those
1493s	players have a little bit more wiggle
1494s	room in terms of losses right those are
1496s	the players that
1497s	at least for the time being are the most
1499s	likely if they were to go six and two to
1501s	make it into that top 16
1503s	but obviously we have four rounds of
1505s	swiss left so uh so much can change
1508s	between now
1509s	and then uh so we'll see uh
1512s	how things are gonna shake out the big
1514s	thing on these players mines is just to
1516s	get those uh couple of extra wins um
1520s	that seven win mark is uh the sweet spot
1523s	because that guarantees that you're into
1524s	the top 16.
1526s	yep very quick word about moyan yeah
1528s	i'll finish my quick word about my even
1529s	though the next match is on the screen
1531s	um he did mention i i had a quick quick
1533s	quick chat with him last night and he
1535s	did mention that he came back
1536s	specifically because of 2022 like the
1539s	new program he and he's doing a good job
1541s	of it right he's done pretty well in the
1542s	first two got 4-0 here as well so
1545s	he came back to have a go now that it's
1547s	um open season for reaching the world
1549s	championships once again so he wins this
1551s	tournament he'll be on his way to the
1553s	seasonals one step away no that was good
1556s	to see he's got also got a good practice
1558s	group and as they come up later i'll
1559s	talk about them as well and he's playing
1561s	well he's ill
1563s	just just to make things even more you
1564s	know just because it's not difficult
1565s	enough playing hearthstone at the
1567s	highest level
1568s	but ghost versus traheden uh we don't
1570s	know that much about ghost although we
1572s	see the name quite often of these
1574s	tournaments i feel uh but trahison apac
1576s	grand master has entertained us a lot
1579s	and given us a lot of fun in there over
1580s	there in apac and that's gonna be our
1582s	first match of the day tj
1584s	yeah uh should be a good one um i
1587s	remember ghosts back from
1589s	obviously we haven't seen him recently
1591s	but
1592s	uh he used to play in the
1597s	i don't remember the name ogn
1602s	oh geez
1605s	oh the um
1606s	yeah yeah i remember oh yeah they used
1609s	to do um
1610s	training matches with china for
1614s	china versus eu as well
1617s	yeah well yeah it was
1619s	so they had a um
1621s	a korean league basically it was in i
1624s	think 20 not 2014 it's tour 2015 2016
1628s	maybe even 2017 i don't know if it uh
1631s	lasted that long
1632s	um
1633s	but uh it was run by ogn uh and i
1636s	believe ghost uh competed in uh some of
1640s	those i don't think he ever had like a
1642s	big win
1643s	um but uh he has been playing
1646s	hearthstone for some time competitively
1649s	but still looking for
1651s	like that big breakout performance
1654s	as we say a lot here in the master's
1656s	tour i just had a meditating moment tj
1659s	and came up with in the
1661s	very second season of ogn he became top
1665s	16 which i suspect is means he played
1668s	and lost to dawn 3-2
1672s	and that was in 2015 in the 23rd of june
1675s	2015. just remembered it all just like
1677s	that right now
1679s	okay there you go wow
1682s	hearthstone historian neil or larinda
1685s	bart coming at you with the wire right
1688s	to get get it in my head and then it all
1689s	just comes out just like that
1691s	just always when i'm off camera as well
1693s	notice
1694s	yeah just comes up there right there
1696s	just comes right out
1698s	um
1699s	trajen uh
1701s	didn't talk about him a lot but um
1703s	definitely a a
1705s	an entertaining character
1707s	in asia pacific grand masters i feel
1709s	like asian pacific grandmasters is just
1711s	a cast of
1713s	or sorry
1715s	it was
1717s	just a cast of
1719s	uh of entertaining characters
1721s	um but definitely showed some some great
1724s	moments
1725s	throughout his time there
1727s	and
1728s	got a couple of mech decks
1730s	and a beast drew it thrown in there so
1732s	going with a sort of a pretty aggressive
1735s	lineup here
1737s	essentially as aggressive as you can get
1740s	in the current metagame
1741s	we'll see how he's going to fare
1744s	and it's a really aggressive beast druid
1746s	as well it's the version that doesn't
1747s	have the the bottom feeder and it is
1749s	literally it's got a finley in there in
1750s	case for some reason he doesn't like his
1752s	hand
1753s	and the rest of it is just hit him
1755s	really fast and really hard so looking
1757s	forward to seeing that one but is the
1758s	mech paladin tj
1760s	the deck of the tournament absolutely no
1762s	doubt about it i called it before we
1764s	started we're seeing it in all these top
1765s	lineups i got it right everyone else is
1767s	wrong don't look at the wind right it's
1769s	fine
1771s	and it's got the wind condition in there
1773s	light forged carol and mr smite yep
1776s	that's the only way you ever win a
1778s	hearthstone game with any form of
1779s	paladin you just sit there you just hang
1781s	on you just try not to die
1783s	and then you just mr smite up to 34
1785s	attack and just hit him really fast
1788s	but seriously meg paladin
1790s	very good meta bringing my opinion even
1792s	now
1794s	all the divine shields work really well
1795s	against warrior they work well against
1797s	hunter it's just an
1799s	i thought it was a fairly obvious bring
1800s	to this tournament because of those two
1802s	decks being so powerful and you having
1804s	very good chances against them both
1807s	yeah
1808s	um
1811s	it's
1814s	just fits in with
1816s	the theme of almost every aggressive
1818s	paladin deck over like the past two
1820s	years
1821s	um where
1823s	you just continuously play minions and
1826s	you just ramp up the stats on board and
1828s	then kill them with battlegrounds
1829s	battlemaster like that's it yeah
1834s	it just does it in a little bit of a
1835s	different way uh than it has in the past
1839s	but
1839s	that's what it boils down to
1841s	um
1842s	and against quest hunter at least from
1844s	my experience
1846s	uh the stats do
1849s	in
1850s	many cases get a little bit out of
1852s	control for the quest hunter uh quite
1854s	quickly where
1855s	um
1856s	you know
1857s	all it takes is
1859s	like one minion to stick and then boom
1861s	you're off to the races in terms of
1864s	quest hunter can no longer
1866s	remove
1867s	everything from your board each and
1868s	every turn uh this hand is not as
1870s	aggressive as a start obviously he's
1873s	uh going for
1875s	he has a lot of like resource generation
1877s	in his hand with the radar detectors
1879s	um
1881s	but that's not necessarily where you
1882s	want to be in this matchup because ghost
1884s	is going to be able to
1885s	especially with this hand
1888s	just continuously remove the board and
1890s	then if you can safely get to the point
1891s	where he's completing quest from there
1893s	it's just a race and if he gets quest
1895s	before there's an overwhelming amount of
1896s	power on foot he's in a good spot
1898s	but the problem with completing the
1900s	quest is those divine shields you don't
1902s	do any damage to divine shield minions
1903s	so you don't advance that quest like you
1905s	want to and that is what leads to the
1907s	paladin usually having a lot of time to
1910s	get going that being said as we pointed
1912s	out here um
1913s	this particular handful of season very
1916s	slow when you have to radar detector on
1918s	two
1919s	has now got the stuff and he's still
1922s	you know not taking any damage yet and
1924s	we're into the part you just described
1926s	but he is like a turn late to this party
1928s	at the moment
1932s	he started because he's got a 5 3 divine
1934s	shield on the board which is just the
1935s	wrong shape he's got a shield
1938s	everything looking good for this
1939s	particular moment it's gonna be
1940s	interesting to see how ghost tries to
1942s	cope with this how much does he want to
1944s	invest into killing this
1945s	versus how much does he think he can
1947s	race maybe kill the next minion and just
1950s	start pointing stuff at face
1952s	tough call yeah i could
1954s	could go for just uh
1957s	oh okay i was gonna say
1960s	hero power coin aim shot but
1963s	uh ghost is certainly in the business of
1966s	yeah
1968s	i'm just gonna get him uh he's gonna go
1970s	for most efficient quest completion here
1973s	and still go for the play that i thought
1974s	initially
1976s	which was here power plus aim shot but
1978s	um found out a way to actually just
1980s	point some damage at the face and get
1983s	the quest completed the hero power down
1985s	to zero before having to go for that uh
1987s	coin name shot
1989s	he's also playing the candle shot
1990s	version a lot of people aren't because
1992s	they're expecting a control meta
1994s	um he hasn't drawn the candle shot but
1996s	in theory candle shot obviously
1998s	a way to to pop off those shields is a
2000s	big thing we'll be looking for all day
2001s	when we see
2003s	inevitably a lot more of this matchup
2005s	yeah
2009s	being very careful to only use his hero
2011s	power on the shields
2013s	yes
2014s	it is an inshot uh buffed hero power so
2017s	this is
2019s	doesn't feel great uh to be quite honest
2022s	but
2023s	um
2024s	he might feel like it's a necessity to
2026s	try and you know get this dragon bane
2029s	shot
2030s	um barb nets is not active
2035s	uh so it is only the one but ken just go
2038s	dragon bait shot even barbnets into
2040s	another dragon bane shot to be able to
2042s	clear the board and this will be
2044s	uh tavish complete with board cleared
2048s	this is uh quite a good situation i
2051s	would say yep mark shot we'll give him
2053s	some cards at least when he needs that
2055s	but next turn
2057s	drop the tavish which will trade quite
2058s	nicely except now it won't because
2061s	leviathan's been picked up and
2065s	at least start the race but the race is
2067s	going to be in such a good spot here so
2068s	he's already with some buffed cards and
2070s	he will be able to just spam big things
2072s	from this turn onwards
2085s	oh the cameo the choices oh
2088s	no mr smite in hand though
2091s	gonna be rough
2092s	yeah he's not gonna get him together 34
2094s	attack smite in time before he kills his
2096s	opponent um leviathan first or carry all
2099s	first is the big choice here though tj
2100s	levithan does deal with the tavis allows
2102s	his board to
2104s	to swing freely he will take a little
2105s	bit of damage though or significant
2107s	amount of damage if he doesn't play the
2108s	carry or first but i'd like to clear up
2110s	the tavis first i think here and then
2112s	drop the carry will slow your opponent
2114s	down that way
2115s	yeah i think so uh ghost is playing a
2119s	double restaurant viper list
2121s	uh so
2122s	uh investing that much mana when you
2125s	don't have that
2126s	that significant of a board lead into
2129s	carryall doesn't feel great
2132s	just in case ghost has the viper in hand
2134s	and then you're just super far behind
2136s	because you're likely going to take uh
2138s	seven from the uh tavish that you
2141s	wouldn't be able to kill it
2142s	um
2146s	he took the bubble button pretty sure
2148s	there which makes a lot of sense to make
2149s	that board more resilient
2151s	obviously
2153s	how to have a quick sort of check on the
2154s	numbers to see if he thought he was
2155s	going to
2157s	go over a key number with just hit them
2159s	with smite to win a game but going for
2161s	those long-term shields we should give
2163s	him two or three turns of pretty much
2165s	indestructibility in terms of
2167s	if ghost is shooting those down he's not
2169s	hitting me in the face and i can play my
2170s	carry-on and everything will be lovely
2181s	ooh
2185s	might be a piercing shot here just for
2187s	that chance of a win oh
2190s	i kind of like tame beast yeah
2193s	you still get the hero power reset it's
2195s	much cheaper and you could still use it
2197s	as removal obviously
2199s	you know piercing shot could be used as
2202s	damage but at this point
2203s	there's really not going to be any small
2205s	minions played from treason and some of
2207s	them might even have divine shields so i
2210s	think tambis has a lot of value in that
2211s	instance
2214s	another board cleared but a lot more
2215s	resources gone without hitting face and
2217s	there's plenty more coming from trajec
2219s	if you look at that hand just
2221s	when he gets to nine he can start
2222s	playing three minions a turn
2225s	so ghost really has got to get moving
2227s	here
2239s	again reloading the board before the
2240s	cabrio makes sense
2252s	every time ghost looks at the board he's
2254s	dead in two turns i guess he's got to
2255s	calculate at which point he actually can
2257s	just put it all to the face it's a lot
2258s	of damage if he just launches this into
2260s	the face
2262s	yeah it is
2265s	but if if he commits to that line then
2268s	he's kind of gotta kill turkey's the
2270s	next turn
2272s	yep um
2274s	because this is not lethal this turn
2281s	sighs that's his best chance he's gonna
2282s	get the furious howls for some more
2284s	spells on some more cards but
2286s	so he's in now with the carryall and
2288s	ghost is gonna
2289s	likely is going to need the
2293s	viper off the top to have a chance
2295s	that's a lot of damage tj that's a lot
2298s	of damage you can see why he committed
2299s	to this line
2301s	that's lethal next turn if there wasn't
2303s	a carryall
2322s	this is exact two turn lethal from
2324s	trahezen though now
2326s	and with caviar doing two and the 10 on
2328s	board is 12 and then obviously just
2329s	repeat the next turn there's another 12
2331s	plus the swing with cabriole it's
2332s	actually above 2 turn lethal
2335s	so ghost does have to kill him through
2337s	16 and a carriage right now
2339s	yeah still has again the double
2341s	restaurant viper in deck so could be
2344s	able to pick one up up off the top i
2346s	believe that would
2347s	be lethal if russell viper was picked up
2352s	it would be
2355s	all right why do you know what could on
2356s	the mono actually 16 would be is that i
2358s	think it would be exactly 16
2361s	right
2363s	here power
2365s	game shot hero power that's nine
2369s	quick shot here power oh no yeah you're
2371s	right
2372s	what did this have been missing amanda
2374s	for the extra hell yeah
2378s	now he's gonna find a way to buy a turn
2379s	this is the beginning of the end but he
2381s	can definitely try and hang in there you
2383s	buy one more turn there's plenty of card
2385s	draw
2397s	yep committed now to just staying alive
2399s	so what you got to do
2406s	get that hell played to keep the quick
2407s	shot alive that way he's got a chance
2409s	next turn of viper into quick shot into
2412s	some stuff
2414s	yep
2415s	all right
2417s	still needs the viper but um a nice
2420s	little clear there uh
2422s	the problem is ghost again
2427s	is probably gonna die
2429s	if he doesn't find a way to lethal
2430s	treason next turn
2433s	yep
2438s	of it every turn there you go
2445s	but maybe
2447s	is enough
2451s	and from the look on his face i haven't
2453s	added it up yet i think piercing shot
2455s	plus badge was probably enough there
2457s	right
2458s	yeah
2459s	with the viper obviously
2467s	it
2470s	raw's
2472s	your power
2473s	piercing shot the divine shield
2476s	hero power piercing shot the one one
2479s	it can't be enough
2481s	each piecing shot's only dealing two the
2483s	second one's dealing
2484s	what
2485s
2487s	five because it's three plus two
2504s	he's getting excited
2507s	nothing new there
2515s	it's still not lethal he's down to nine
2519s	oh man
2524s	and he hasn't got lethal has he two no
2527s	it's one off
2530s	uh
2530s	himself another chance this time his
2532s	chance is huge
2533s	ah what about amalgam
2538s	no
2541s	so
2542s	he's going to have to try and draw smite
2549s	we're there already okay but he's gonna
2552s	have to right
2555s	yeah because this is
2556s	he is one off
2560s	i mean that's not a banana major
2561s	vindicator i'm sorry
2573s	i'm running out of time
2577s	all right well
2579s	lethal set up once again and ghost is
2580s	looking for it right now has um
2584s	four damage
2585s	but he's got a card draw with a quick
2587s	shot as well so there's lots of out here
2590s	yeah
2591s	okay so that's two three four five
2599s	this will be the viper because he's
2600s	wanted it all game and now it'll be
2601s	useless that's how this game works right
2609s	treasure guard all right he's dead
2611s	that was close
2613s	that was
2614s	nutty both vipers in the bottom eight
2616s	cards ghosts survived so much longer
2619s	than i thought he was going each turn i
2620s	thought he was going to die next turn he
2621s	bought himself not only three more turns
2625s	but three more turns where he could win
2627s	if he drew the viper or come very close
2628s	to it and just you didn't quite get that
2631s	but showing why he's four and zero
2633s	showing all those years of experience
2635s	then hanging on and i went right back to
2636s	the start he realized
2639s	not to waste a single spell on those
2640s	shields so he get the tavis down set
2643s	himself up for a nice position but the
2645s	the deck was not behaving itself today
2647s	for him
2649s	not at all um
2651s	but still a lot of serious left to play
2653s	that's only one zero lead for treason
2656s	um and we have some
2658s	still some
2659s	aggro decks left that
2662s	quest hunter can
2663s	you know try and get the job done
2665s	against maybe with a little bit less
2667s	divine shield as well
2669s	uh-huh seems quite good which version of
2671s	the mech mage odd is the amulet
2674s	mech mage
2676s	uh that trajectory is playing
2678s	which i think is uh even better match up
2681s	uh for ghost on the quest hunter so if
2683s	he decides to stay on it
2685s	um
2687s	does still have
2693s	warrior demon hunter druid but i'm not
2696s	sure which was banned
2697s	yeah immediately
2698s	i was looking at it but i can't find it
2701s	um
2702s	so
2703s	a lot of series still left to be played
2707s	yeah and all the trees and sticks kind
2709s	of do the same thing and i do think that
2710s	the mech paladin i assume his demon
2712s	hunter is banned it is a warrior band on
2715s	the other side
2716s	and of the three remaining i think the
2718s	mech paladin was the best suited to to
2720s	that hunter
2722s	so now we sort of get on with the the
2723s	tougher part with the mage and the druid
2725s	we haven't seen that much mage this
2727s	tournament although a bit more than i
2729s	expected if i'm honest
2731s	because i'm not a mage
2733s	enjoyer i'm a denier i got shouted out
2736s	by a few people yesterday for that but
2737s	i'm going to stick to my guns because
2738s	that's obviously the only way to go
2741s	but he won't shadow you
2743s	you just shout at me all you like tj i'm
2744s	used to it
2746s	nope i don't shout
2749s	thank you
2751s	yes you don't fail only if i'm only if
2754s	i'm twisting at the same time
2757s	yeah cause
2759s	that's your ava right not mine
2761s	yep
2763s	getting old i'm getting up there neil
2765s	you're catching me up
2767s	yeah you get your paper snappers stop
2770s	you guys don't know anything about
2771s	twisting and shouting
2773s	uh-huh
2777s	ah you have to show me some twisting and
2779s	shouting sometime tj
2781s	excited to see it
2783s	beast druid i'm excited to see this too
2785s	no bottom feeders just straight up make
2787s	things make them bigger make them even
2789s	bigger
2790s	and hit you with them and there is a
2791s	finley in this deck so if you don't like
2793s	the way you're hitting them you can just
2794s	hit them in a different way and our
2796s	favorite card in the opening hand which
2798s	means he can't aquatic form
2801s	yup aquatic form it affects your other
2804s	pack mule
2810s	really good hand for ghost here yeah i
2812s	was gonna say that great opening aim
2814s	shot also pretty good um
2817s	especially when
2819s	you know you can get the
2822s	uh if you can get like the first quest
2823s	complete before aim shot happens it's a
2826s	good way to just be able to clear things
2827s	up on the board and still progress quest
2829s	because you get the buff to your power
2830s	in a minion
2841s	not wanting the peasant wanting
2842s	something more because the present will
2844s	just be
2846s	easily dealt with
2848s	there it is
2854s	and it is a
2855s	uh
2857s	it's called swap right yeah swap swap
2860s	effect not a draw effect
2866s	wait no that should work that way
2869s	nice um the way finley's words i think
2871s	yeah swap your hand yeah
2873s	yeah so it doesn't work with draw
2875s	effects apparently yeah yeah
2878s	it's different from the it's different
2880s	from like secret passage which works the
2882s	same way but secret passage is not swap
2884s	secret patches is
2885s	secret passage or was replace
2889s	uh if i'm not mistaken
2890s	i think it was yeah but
2892s	it it would have to specifically say
2894s	draw
2895s	in order for uh pack mule to uh get its
2898s	effect
2900s	imagine secret passage if it worked with
2902s	bloods
2904s	i'm silly with that a pin
2907s	last year would have been a very long
2909s	year of hearthstone let's just put it
2910s	that way
2912s	uh-huh
2917s	okay
2918s	um asharon gardens uh
2925s	i guess it's okay
2930s	i got moonlit guidance to uh sort of
2932s	reload here
2934s	uh for trihesion just wants to put as
2936s	much stats on the board as possible
2938s	uh needs to uh be in the mindset of
2941s	pressure
2943s	and
2946s	ghost does have
2948s	plenty of ways to try and uh clear this
2950s	stuff up
2951s	uh this isn't going to be
2954s	uh it's only gonna be first quest
2956s	completion
2958s	so won't be able to get the free hero
2960s	power onto the three four but has it
2962s	loaded up for
2963s	uh next turn and still the wound prey
2966s	plus the
2967s	uh barb nets
2969s	in hand to be able to keep going with
2971s	the quest
2972s	ooh the matriarch still expensive though
2976s	oh
2978s	and
2979s	yeah now the hunter's going to just get
2980s	control of this one i think unless the
2982s	matriarch gets down next turn somehow
2985s	which is now i'm not gonna do
2994s	there's the viper he wanted all last
2996s	game
2998s	yeah go away viper you're late
3000s	looking for a naga okay found one but
3007s	not the one
3012s	and that's made this turn
3014s	really awkward now
3016s	he doesn't play the spear okay
3020s	i guess it would only have been raj jhan
3022s	that could activate departments
3024s	besides this so couldn't do with the
3026s	amount of mana that he had
3028s	would have been clean on the peasants
3030s	but alas
3032s	here we are
3033s	could just clear the whole board here
3034s	with barb nets
3036s	barb that's on one peasant wouldn't pray
3037s	on another
3039s	um and then the hero power
3042s	which is still buffed by the aim shot to
3044s	uh fully clean things up
3046s	does have playable cards next turn
3048s	regardless of what treason does
3050s	though
3051s	and we'll with the candle shot sticker
3054s	let let this one one stick around
3057s	which may not be the biggest of deals
3058s	but i could be impact oh nope not gonna
3061s	preserve the candle shot instead all
3063s	right
3068s	amalgam window friends
3074s	boys assign you in trouble
3077s	when you amalgam doesn't have any
3078s	friends
3079s	he's all minion types still doesn't have
3081s	any friends
3084s	sort of like me
3094s	those are certainly
3109s	well all right
3113s	play your cards every turn and this is
3116s	again still
3118s	just relatively easy for us to just
3120s	clean things up and i don't really think
3122s	treason has a chance your quest gonna be
3124s	complete
3127s	yeah and this time the seven sevens of
3129s	relevant minion right it's not just
3130s	gonna get some sort of
3132s	leviathan trade into it seven seven is
3134s	gonna be old just big
3137s	anybody take me aquatic form
3141s	okay
3142s	nice
3147s	okay
3148s	uh i had something
3151s	yeah that's reload
3153s	fading excitement but yeah
3155s	get in there
3156s	it's saying pickups from crazy
3160s	oh my goodness he's got a six five and a
3164s	one one the game's nearly over
3177s	just gonna occupy the board on the
3178s	assumption that he just wins as long as
3180s	he doesn't get hit for too much
3182s	yep
3183s	twice this game now he's forgiven value
3186s	for
3187s	just getting stuff down like with the
3189s	barb nets he there what about being
3190s	greedy but just chose not to be
3193s	markov's a good pick up ooh
3198s	ah they were actually terrible
3201s	just
3203s	never going to be able to cast three
3204s	spells while holding on to a card with
3206s	this deck he has to play everything as
3208s	soon as he draws it essentially you
3210s	don't want to even have a chance
3212s	looked flush
3218s	cool cards not relevant
3222s	all right
3224s	um
3227s	yep get the trog out of the way first
3230s	and
3231s	dragon bean shot
3234s	yeah and this goes back to where he kept
3236s	the candle candle shot instead of the
3238s	ball right the ball could have been
3239s	traded into by now but the candle shot
3241s	will be able to
3243s	allow the dragon bane shot to do a clean
3245s	number
3246s	yeah
3249s	um well it's a matter of if he wants to
3253s	get the dragon bane shot value or
3256s	just uh clear stuff off the board oh so
3258s	again yeah you're right so this candle
3260s	shot can still get the dragon bit shot
3261s	by
3262s	so that's the composting on it would
3263s	draw trajee's in the card but
3266s	go's still gonna have a solid lead over
3267s	the board a lot of resources in hand ooh
3273s	there it's it's not doing the thing it's
3275s	not it's okay it's working now is it
3277s	good
3283s	that's like
3284s	one of the best runner runner draws you
3286s	could get
3287s	um
3288s	still
3289s	may not be enough
3291s	however well it goes we have to do a lot
3294s	of cleaning up here
3296s	yeah this has gone from definitely over
3298s	to
3299s	definitely not over in the space of the
3302s	last like six cards in a row or being
3304s	perfect
3305s	i mean this is just like a board clear
3306s	showing you just dragon bait shot hero
3309s	power you're a power dragon bait shot
3311s	you're a power dragon shot hero power
3313s	dragon being shot double trade it's just
3316s	it sounds like one of your invented this
3319s	is always lethal situations it's like
3321s	just just this complete recursive loop
3323s	of stuff
3325s	yeah
3326s	it is look at it
3331s	all went back to keeping the the candle
3333s	shot over the ball
3336s	yeah this dragon made shot to be so good
3346s	amazing
3348s	casts like 300 spells in a turn hasn't
3350s	advanced the quest hasn't done any
3352s	damage obviously it's going to win the
3353s	game
3354s	and i think he that here power probably
3356s	should have gotten based on the one five
3358s	should have traded in
3361s	but wants to preserve the health on the
3364s	one five maybe
3366s	i can see
3367s	all right
3368s	so he just realized that this machine
3370s	gun is just not gonna stop and ghost
3372s	levels the scores at one one and gets
3375s	the hunter out of there
3377s	how good do you think hunter is tj
3378s	because i've got it down as a pretty
3379s	good deck this tournament
3382s	[Music]
3384s	i would also put it down as pretty good
3387s	um i do think that it found a nice
3390s	little sweet spot
3392s	um
3393s	in the metagame where
3396s	uh it preys on the decks that
3399s	um
3401s	a lot of decks in the good decks lineup
3403s	are weak against
3405s	if that makes sense yes it does
3408s	so
3409s	uh it gives you a
3410s	not necessarily a target strategy
3413s	um well you can fit into a target
3415s	strategy right uh if you're you know
3417s	trying to like target aggro
3419s	i think that quest hunter holds down to
3421s	get aggro pretty well cause you just
3423s	always have an excuse to complete quest
3426s	but if you're just playing uh the good
3428s	stuff
3429s	it gives you that sort of well-rounded
3431s	conquest lineup where you're not trying
3433s	to hard target something but your decks
3435s	make up for each other's weaknesses and
3437s	we've seen those are the two main
3439s	conquest strategies where
3441s	number one is you just bring the highest
3444s	overall win rate decks and the number
3446s	two is you try and target a specific
3450s	deck that you think uh very many players
3453s	are going to go to bring play the
3454s	numbers game
3456s	and uh i think that quest hunter fits in
3459s	both of those
3461s	which is usually the sign of a
3463s	of of a solid deck even though it may
3465s	not be the best deck in the meta game
3468s	speak of the devil uh
3470s	it it's still up there
3473s	uh
3474s	yeah this is um ghosts fell demon hunter
3477s	um
3479s	yeah throw jason there why not
3481s	yeah why not i just i was saying wait
3483s	fell demon hunter that doesn't say naga
3485s	but yeah that's because there's a chase
3486s	in here um
3488s	they're almost the same
3491s	uh you just take out some of the early
3493s	game minions and replace them with fell
3497s	yep this deck a little bit slower
3500s	but obviously has that sustain against
3502s	things like warrior for instance where
3504s	you get a bit of an extra shot at it
3506s	and does pretty much the same thing uh
3508s	even the
3509s	the really fast naga deck is still
3513s	sort of not a turn one deck a lot of the
3514s	time you're loading up a weapon cleared
3516s	killing off their one drop you know you
3517s	know it doesn't stop the beat down until
3518s	turn two it's it's mighty slow in that
3521s	regard
3522s	so giving that up isn't a massive deal
3524s	for
3525s	different sorts of power level of cards
3527s	they're they say sorry same power level
3529s	with different cards doing similar
3530s	things
3531s	um but i don't think it's gonna be a
3533s	very popular bring so gonna be
3534s	interesting to see
3535s	it live on stream and he's gonna be
3537s	against the mech mage
3540s	the terror of day one
3546s	yeah this is the amulet version of the
3548s	mech mage a little bit heavier
3551s	got a little bit more longevity in the
3552s	game um with belinda it has
3556s	um the ability to make massive boards
3560s	uh quite early on
3563s	um if uh
3565s	dave belinda hits the drake fire amulet
3567s	because it makes the blender bigger and
3569s	then also makes the amulet cheaper
3572s	so
3574s	we'll see
3575s	obviously the c4 getaway is a
3577s	a pretty big card
3580s	in many matchups to allow you to
3583s	flood the board in incredibly quickly
3586s	and get
3587s	mecha shark
3588s	damage
3589s	onto
3590s	your opponent incredibly quickly
3595s	and the mecca shark for me i haven't
3597s	played a huge amount of mage but the
3599s	mega sharks the tough part whether to
3600s	just jam it on the ball tempo minion um
3603s	and the times you can just hold it back
3605s	and do
3606s	a million damage in one turn so
3609s	that's something i actually personally
3611s	been keeping an eye on when i watch it
3612s	when i watch the majors see when they
3614s	choose to do each part of that
3617s	it's flame waker come on now
3619s	it was also the same problem right do
3621s	you want to just do this stuff now which
3623s	you often did because why wouldn't you
3625s	um but flamewaker was a lot harder to
3627s	kill as well back in the day you just
3629s	sit there for two turns
3633s	sharks tend to not sit there for two
3635s	turns if you just jam them out there
3638s	because look at all this removal that
3639s	demon hunter has
3641s	[Music]
3643s	yep uh now obviously the predations
3647s	in this deck are much more uh difficult
3651s	uh to activate at least early on in the
3654s	game because you don't play
3657s	um
3659s	the slitherspear
3661s	yep which is
3664s	kept majority of the time
3666s	and can be able to be played but
3668s	instead you're still playing uh like the
3671s	school teachers
3672s	so
3673s	you still have like the same amount of
3675s	nagas but
3677s	uh they just come a little bit later
3679s	in the game
3681s	like
3682s	turn three
3684s	and treasure guard you're still playing
3685s	trick which
3687s	i i've
3688s	seen players have that in the naga demon
3691s	hunter and i've seen players not have it
3693s	which i thought was weird like if you
3695s	look at trees inside he's just playing
3696s	for one treasure there
3697s	yeah it depends how much
3699s	you're scared of druid i think which you
3701s	shouldn't be because you're playing
3702s	demon hunter but
3704s	it does eat up three of those two one
3707s	whelps all by itself which is a big deal
3709s	because somebody else usually hangs
3710s	around after after you've been welt
3713s	yep i think that's why it found its way
3715s	into the deck because obviously a one
3717s	five that draws a card
3718s	doesn't sound particularly enticing but
3720s	then again you see the druid try to
3722s	clear a board with a treasure guard and
3724s	just any old stuff and it just it just
3727s	rocks in those situations
3729s	yeah
3732s	the evoker picks up the sea floor
3734s	getaway
3735s	which is uh
3738s	what he's wanted to see in that
3739s	situation because his hand was starting
3741s	to get quite full of mex picks up second
3743s	sea floor getaway so now we're looking
3745s	at uh a possibility for a
3748s	massive
3749s	mecha shark turn next turn with a bunch
3752s	of cheap mix
3754s	in hand already plus the mech shark
3758s	yeah this could get
3759s	pretty silly
3763s	just holding on to potential yeah a lot
3766s	of damage here ghost has ladies steno
3769s	plus
3770s	double predation fury
3772s	and coin just to make everything so much
3774s	more silly and coin
3775s	is
3776s	that's 10
3778s	15.
3782s	18 damage
3785s	18 damage
3788s	i am willing to believe any number you
3789s	say there
3791s	um
3792s	because whatever you say i'm just going
3793s	to not be able to calculate it as
3795s	quickly as you so i'm just going to
3796s	trust you look at all this damage it's a
3797s	lot of damage it's a metric a lot of
3799s	damage
3802s	yeah now you now you're on four how do
3804s	you like that
3805s	what
3807s	with chaos nova in hand how much damage
3810s	does churches have a million as well oh
3813s	my god
3816s	just get shocked
3818s	oh i want to go naval mine there
3823s	an extra mech
3826s	ah these board-based decks that interact
3828s	with each other look at this they're
3829s	interacting so much right now with each
3831s	other look at them interact yeah
3834s	pick up
3835s	oh
3847s	ghost somehow doesn't have lethal in
3849s	hand yet by the way he's got like 7
3851s	thousand outs but yeah
3854s	yeah uh well with means on the board
3856s	it's oh no the fel barrage would still
3857s	be lethal
3860s	uh because he could your part oh well
3862s	ladies and gents the show it's just oh
3865s	okay
3867s	i just figured
3869s	all right whatever
3870s	that's the set that
3872s	dodged
3873s	15 shark shots
3876s	just that was even more was that more
3878s	than 18 now he's he was at 22 right or
3881s	maybe not more i don't know because he
3883s	picked up the sigil which let him get
3884s	two more damage in so i think that was
3886s	20 damage on turn five
3889s	uh with uh lady sano
3891s	so the slow version like we said
3896s	i mean
3898s	yeah
3899s	like the the fact that ladies then oh
3902s	itself is a naga so it activates the
3904s	predations yeah it's just so
3907s	it feels like so troll it's just like
3910s	for three mana
3912s	you can deal 10 damage to your opponent
3914s	assuming there's no enemies on board how
3916s	many times these sharks miss as well
3918s	just to clear her up to give something i
3920s	know i just i i just figured it was dead
3922s	i just thought it was just that was fun
3925s	played that turn right
3927s	yeah
3928s	i was four other mechs okay yeah four
3931s	other mechs so that was 12 missiles
3936s	and three hit the steno and
3939s	nine hit the face
3941s	as it happens ghost did pick up the um
3944s	the multi-strike so it was fine it would
3946s	have been lethal anyway but even so i
3948s	want to be amused this early in the day
3951s	and i'm suitably amused by that thinner
3953s	just chilling on the board
3955s	right ghost two one up into the final
3958s	deck it is the ramp druid
3960s	and when we're talking about target
3962s	strategies for this tournament the big
3964s	question mark was how good was van druid
3967s	like everyone knew
3968s	yeah it was busted before it's still
3970s	going to be good now
3971s	um but with kazakhstan being nerfed
3974s	there were some question marks as to how
3976s	people would struggle to build this and
3977s	as it turns out
3979s	hasn't made that much difference has it
3980s	really
3981s	nope
3984s	not really
3986s	a little
3987s	it's um
3988s	you know have to sort of jam in a couple
3990s	of amalgams just to give yourself the
3992s	sustain you might need against control
3994s	which
3995s	you know a bit awkward but there's still
3997s	some defense early from them as well so
3999s	they're not a disaster against aggro
4001s	so yeah not a lot changed
4012s	ghost keeping aquatic form innervate
4014s	moonlit guidance
4021s	yep gonna stand and fight rather than
4024s	oh
4026s	just rips the guff
4029s	just rips it
4035s	guff stuff
4037s	yeah guff stuff
4039s	gonna let guff rip on turn three
4042s	yep
4044s	he's just gonna play on curve
4047s	what you gotta do
4051s	uh not gonna try not the uh best pickup
4055s	for the time being i should say yeah
4058s	tell me that when it's zero man i mean
4060s	two turns time got a long way to go
4064s	miracle growth will speed that up
4066s	considerably but
4068s	that's only eight
4072s	out of 20. there's the other scales as
4074s	well so
4075s	you know
4077s	pick up the other innovate with your
4079s	miracle growth off you go
4081s	yep
4082s	but yeah here come the sharks
4086s	yeah this
4088s	is gonna kill the minion that's the big
4090s	question
4092s	all right there we go
4096s	and pressure's still rolling in ghosts
4098s	just
4099s	in a permanent state of head shaking
4104s	picked up
4106s	uh
4113s	that's interesting i was thinking jerry
4115s	carpenter but that's really slow because
4117s	then you're essentially guaranteeing
4120s	that you're going to be like nourishing
4122s	next turn taking another turn of damage
4125s	so
4126s	this probably has to be scale and ghost
4129s	can innervate out the scale next turn
4131s	well i wouldn't even need to innovate it
4132s	because still has not used the guff hero
4134s	power
4136s	uh so could just use it to ramp up
4139s	true to the reef
4141s	uh this is a moon that got in so drew to
4143s	the reef would still clear the mecha
4144s	shark
4145s	yeah i kind of like that because it
4147s	gives you the chance to use your guff
4149s	here powerful ramp getting you close to
4151s	that miracle growth as well
4154s	yeah
4154s	and yeah this mixture is accompanying it
4157s	yeah so next so you play drew the reef
4159s	drew to the reef that you draw and then
4161s	next turn innervate out the miracle
4163s	growth
4165s	yeah assuming you're under a lot of
4167s	pressure which you should be
4174s	that giant you made fun of tj it's gonna
4176s	be down to 10.
4179s	you worried yet
4180s	[Laughter]
4182s	no
4183s	not at all
4185s	okay
4186s	on giant watch from now on
4189s	yeah
4194s	oh
4197s	he does have the option to take a turn
4199s	to
4199s	to get the miracle growth earth scales
4202s	but i don't think that works
4204s	no i i think you wait
4206s	for naga giant
4208s	with earth and skills to stabilize he's
4210s	going to be picking up
4214s	three million hopefully enough stuff
4215s	here
4217s	he got that
4223s	oh no
4227s	shucks first
4228s	it's so weird
4232s	putting the mecha shark is first
4234s	okay
4236s	um
4238s	yeah this is not looking good
4241s	they can nourish the vamp into giant and
4244s	then die
4246s	uh what about nourish for ramp into
4250s	starfish druid of the reef earthen
4253s	scales
4256s	okay
4259s	clear the mecca shark this must be the
4261s	way
4262s	the nourishing to ramp you have five
4264s	mana crystals left after you ramp for
4266s	two
4268s	starfish
4269s	drew the reef in rush
4272s	earthen scales
4276s	so you gain four you go up to 15 you
4277s	clear the mecha shark there's six seven
4279s	eight nine 10 11 12 damage on board
4283s	and next turn you have 11 mana
4289s	that's hazard wants to know as well look
4294s	[Music]
4298s	his best tree impression
4310s	yeah i guess this still does the same
4311s	thing because well i said starfish which
4314s	doesn't really have any
4315s	any implication
4320s	like i started with
4322s	i started with starfish because i was
4324s	like oh you need to get rid of this mega
4325s	shark but then he's killing it so
4327s	still wants to turn at 15.
4330s	and
4331s	um
4335s	if a medium
4337s	mecha shark
4339s	no that wouldn't have board space
4343s	he's had to burn the other scales to do
4345s	all this though i guess a knicks here in
4346s	hand
4352s	maybe you find shark for next turn
4354s	because you know you can't get it done
4355s	this turn mr smite enough mana
4364s	just needs to find stats but i i think
4366s	that mr smite should be
4369s	good enough next turn right
4372s	yeah assuming that ghost doesn't find
4375s	another scales
4378s	yeah but it'd have to be exactly scales
4392s	and not that scales
4396s	this is single scale which is weird
4399s	because the singular scale
4401s	makes seven things
4403s	and the scales makes one thing
4407s	seven times
4411s	yeah get the naming squad on that one
4416s	yeah and can't even go brave boss onyxia
4419s	um because it would still leave enough
4421s	damage on the board to kill
4423s	couldn't clear everything
4425s	and
4426s	yeah that should do it
4428s	it's a draw does it find anything and
4431s	yeah that'll be it treason
4435s	clapping it up
4435s	[Music]
4437s	rubbing his chest
4438s	whatever that was something i love about
4441s	watching trahe is like win or lose he
4443s	just has a great time when he's on
4445s	camera he just loves like showing off to
4448s	the um the audience enjoying himself
4450s	trying to give us a good time while he's
4452s	at it but yeah he's going to be on his
4454s	back on the druid yes back on the druid
4456s	it stays there at the bottom of the
4457s	screen
4460s	yeah druid versus druid beast druid
4462s	versus ramp druid
4465s	um
4466s	i
4467s	i have
4469s	so little faith in b straight right now
4471s	it's like every time i see it it just
4473s	fizzles out so quickly
4476s	um but obviously
4478s	it's got uh
4479s	a ton of potential to have you know
4481s	those quick boards of overwhelming stats
4485s	uh with the uh ashar and gardens and
4488s	summoned beast into matriarch
4490s	um
4491s	same thing as be sure it's always done
4495s	just in a different way i guess
4498s	so
4499s	we'll see is going to need it obviously
4501s	as you can see ram drew it even if it's
4503s	able to hit
4505s	a good amount of ramp
4507s	if it isn't able to take full control of
4509s	the board at any at any point
4511s	uh they can still just end up flopping
4514s	over uh no spammy arcanist in this ramp
4516s	druid build
4518s	from ghost
4520s	it's just really the smother starfish as
4522s	kind of that tech card
4525s	so no ways to kind of like definitively
4528s	take the board and find those creative
4531s	clears
4533s	creative clears
4535s	[Music]
4537s	actually
4542s	especially in these spots in the
4543s	tournament where you're two two
4545s	and you're facing down a fellow druid
4550s	yep
4554s	one thing about this the beast druid i
4555s	guess is is
4556s	as he's about to try and prove me wrong
4558s	it's very hard to have a terrible
4560s	opening hand
4562s	because just everything costs well half
4563s	your deck costs one and the other half
4564s	costs two and plenty of ways to redraw
4568s	so
4569s	it is going to consistently do its thing
4570s	and like you say it's just a case of
4571s	whether that thing is
4573s	high enough power level to carry through
4575s	a tournament
4576s	double composting double
4579s	matriarch terrible opening hand i found
4582s	it
4587s	but then what's your you might top deck
4588s	something good
4590s	or kill a balloon there you go and
4592s	another one yeah that's the end of the
4593s	game
4598s	but realistically it's very difficult
4602s	i'm gonna value trade or gonna trade the
4604s	squirrel okay value traded this
4607s	always valued
4609s	well with composting in hand trading the
4611s	squirtle
4612s	has a little bit more value but
4613s	obviously you know his deck is
4618s	um
4619s	a lot of cards in it so
4621s	unlikely and also he
4625s	he's
4627s	got it with more minions on board
4628s	composting has innate value in this
4631s	sense could go composting sir finley
4633s	here
4640s	i know it's it's
4641s	it's been cut down from um always being
4644s	bugged to sporadically being bugged now
4647s	yeah that's an improvement
4653s	it's a mystery card it's such a weird
4655s	bug
4658s	play the correct one you know the
4659s	scorcher he's been grandmaster long
4663s	law be enough own treasure
4669s	all right something happened some things
4671s	went to the face
4672s	tahiti is taking a drink we're gonna
4673s	have to make it up
4677s	and ghost we're going by the actions his
4679s	hands are not currently on the mouse
4681s	he's having a think
4683s	what should i do with these cards i
4684s	can't play
4686s	there we go
4688s	everything sorted before ghost even took
4690s	his turn kindly took his time for us
4693s	beautiful
4695s	you love to see it
4698s	i'm talking about guff
4703s	you're always talking about guff
4705s	t-shirts i know let's be real here
4709s	reflect in the moon
4714s	just position the earth
4718s	all right this is gonna start to get out
4719s	of control i think
4721s	it was just uh
4724s	doesn't really have room to do anything
4725s	yep
4728s	the patented
4729s	as of
4730s	45 minutes ago ghost head shake
4738s	patent has pended on that one he's now
4740s	an official patent
4742s	or patent
4744s	as some of my
4745s	british friends would say over across
4747s	the pond in the united kingdom
4750s	tough stuff
4756s	not really a choice here does have
4758s	access to scale next turn but everything
4760s	else is kind of working against ghost at
4762s	the moment
4766s	reflect in the moon
4768s	yeah
4770s	and the three healthy is a big problem
4772s	on all these minions again to slow down
4774s	the scale
4780s	doesn't like odd numbers does it scale
4783s	nope
4785s	take a good chunk of power off the board
4789s	uh it would be
4792s	i could take out the oracle two so both
4794s	pack meals that's four drew three five
4796s	oracle
4797s	six seven yeah so we'll leave six power
4800s	on the board oracle be gone traheza
4802s	would draw
4803s	three cards
4809s	yeah but won't have lethal probably
4823s	will he actually have lethal actually
4825s	now i think about it
4828s	uh
4829s	this would be well depends on what he
4831s	trades into right this is eight
4834s	oh this leads though
4835s	yeah
4837s	yeah
4839s	that's right there it is
4842s	claw fury adept
4845s	coming in hot treason gets the job done
4848s	with the beast druid
4851s	comes back from behind in the series and
4853s	is going to move up 5-0
4856s	in the swiss now ghost going down to 4-1
4859s	still in a reasonable position seems to
4862s	be playing quite well
4864s	but
4865s	he's in the man of the moment for now
4868s	as at least as far as we know since
4870s	we've been sat here casting
4872s	this match and don't know what's
4873s	happening throughout the rest of the
4875s	swiss treason's in first place the only
4877s	5-0 player
4879s	yeah i know tj because i've been you
4881s	know sneakily having a little look so i
4884s	know but i don't know which matches
4885s	we're showing next so i cannot tell
4888s	but he's on
4889s	he's up there somewhere ghost did have
4891s	the highest tiebreakers coming into
4893s	today they change massively over the
4894s	course of the day of course as it
4896s	depends how
4897s	all of your opponents have done against
4899s	other people completely out of your
4900s	control
4902s	but ghost was in an okay spot so
4904s	yeah seven one will get you in six and
4906s	two if you've got the best tiebreakers
4908s	gives you a shot so he's definitely
4910s	still up there just win your last three
4911s	take it out of the tie breaker hands and
4913s	we could well see him again tomorrow in
4915s	that top 16.
4916s	yeah ghost had the uh best tiebreakers
4919s	coming into the day uh did have that
4922s	number one seed but that can
4924s	that's with only you know half the
4926s	sample size of swiss rounds so that
4929s	tiebreaker number can change
4930s	considerably as the day goes on
4932s	so uh we'll be keeping an eye on that
4935s	and hopefully someone will update you
4937s	maybe it'll be me maybe it'll be neal
4938s	maybe it'll be gia maybe it'll be subtle
4941s	probably won't be raven
4942s	[Laughter]
4945s	raven's already updated as the demon
4946s	hunter beats warrior and has been proven
4948s	to be correct so what do we know i can
4950s	tell you that buddy hopper is currently
4952s	the number one in the standings by the
4954s	way safely
4956s	you can safely say that uh-huh
4959s	which is a spoiler alert considering
4961s	that bunny hopper is actually going to
4963s	be in the next match that we're going to
4964s	watch
4965s	is he now
4966s	[Music]
4967s	just kidding i thought i checked it and
4969s	i had but tj got me anyway
4974s	one thing that i know neil hates is when
4977s	he
4978s	inadvertently spoils something for
4980s	somebody else
4982s	um
4984s	i mean
4985s	he's just a true american like that you
4986s	know
4988s	he hates to inconvenience other people
4990s	uh as a as a true american should so
4993s	[Music]
4995s	absolutely fellow american you'll learn
4997s	the bond
4999s	even though you just said you're from
5000s	the uk like five minutes ago but i
5002s	didn't i said my uk friends across the
5004s	pond ah you could get friends across the
5007s	pond okay
5009s	and as americans the uk
5011s	yeah that pond thing in the middle
5014s	you know yeah
5015s	yeah then there's nice dragons off to
5017s	the east of the pond unless you you're
5019s	saying they both live in the uk and
5020s	there's just a pond that separates your
5022s	house and
5024s	you know raven and the rest of the uk
5026s	which isn't actually that far from the
5027s	truth in my case but yeah i digress for
5031s	once
5031s	a lot of pawns in the uk
5033s	but
5034s	that was just our first match for round
5036s	number five here our first match of the
5037s	day we got plenty more
5039s	uh action still left to play we have
5041s	some more round five coverage coming up
5043s	and then we have round six round seven
5044s	and round eight uh before we uh call it
5047s	quits for the day here um but before we
5050s	jump into some more round five coverage
5052s	we are going to have to go to a quick
5054s	break but don't go anywhere more to come
5056s	here from masters tour
5057s	voyage to the sunken city
5063s	[Music]
5112s	foreign
5115s	[Music]
5155s	[Music]
5161s	[Music]
5172s	[Applause]
5175s	[Music]
5175s	[Applause]
5190s	[Music]
5196s	[Music]
5216s	[Music]
5255s	hello everyone and welcome back to
5257s	master's tall voyage to the sunken city
5259s	i'm raven joining me for more round five
5261s	action is gia uh welcome are you ready
5264s	for another day of the masters tour
5266s	very very ready indeed raven my ship is
5269s	still leaking but i'm still not drowning
5271s	everything is fine and we get to watch
5273s	some more aggro druid action
5276s	yeah we do we are gonna jump in i
5278s	believe into game three of a series
5280s	between merrow and jay long
5283s	so i'm excited to get into this one just
5285s	to give you a quick breakdown uh
5287s	yeah okay we are going to game three
5289s	perfect uh just a quick breakdown of
5290s	what has already happened uh i believe
5293s	let me just triple check mero has taken
5295s	a win already with the warrior against
5298s	the rogue and then j long has won with
5300s	his hunter versus
5302s	meros hunter as well in the mirror hence
5305s	the 1-1 score and i believe now we're
5308s	going into a druid versus hunter matchup
5312s	very exciting stuff jaylon and merrow
5314s	both coming from apac so we do have two
5316s	players that i would be very happy to
5318s	see either of them go forward through as
5320s	i'm still waiting for the first ever
5322s	apac masters tour champion to rear their
5325s	head but over here we do have the mutual
5327s	demon hunter bands which is quite
5329s	interesting because if we look at sort
5331s	of the composition of jay long's lineup
5333s	as a whole he's got quite an aggressive
5335s	list of ducks the face hunter pirate
5338s	rogue and the uh aggro drew in there
5340s	alongside the kind of standard naga
5342s	demon hunter but on the other side of
5344s	marrow he has control warrior he has the
5347s	demon hunter that's tucked with chase at
5349s	the top end with the double chaos nova
5350s	so that fell version pretty favorable
5352s	against aggro and also the quest hunter
5355s	so honestly jae long would have wanted
5356s	to ban three decks if he could have here
5359s	no good match-ups to be found except the
5361s	druid maybe yeah and looking at this
5363s	here from jaylon we are seeing some
5366s	changes to the druid we cast yesterday
5368s	in the uh the orange matchup um where
5370s	there is for example the bottom feeders
5372s	in here naturally there's a crossroads
5375s	watch post and also that prides fury
5378s	that i think you know you specifically
5380s	were talking about right the lack of
5381s	on-board buffs we've seen from druid a
5383s	little bit so far uh seems to be the
5386s	downfall time and time again uh do you
5388s	think that you know i'm not asking you
5390s	to say whether this is the best list but
5392s	do you think this is a better looking
5394s	list as far as you can see
5396s	on paper definitely looks more up my
5398s	alley i should say um cuts the claw fury
5400s	adepts as the only sort of on-board buff
5403s	effect that was
5405s	featured in the previous list we saw and
5407s	also the azure gardens which is sort of
5408s	a conditional like you need to find the
5410s	sunken version before you can get the
5412s	buffs on board and much favor the prides
5414s	fury as just being all you need to do is
5416s	draw it and have the four mana available
5417s	and you can consolidate almost any board
5419s	state even though it's not quite so
5421s	aggressive just having additional health
5423s	on your minions really helps alongside
5425s	um a lot of the removal in the metagame
5428s	right now i still kind of worry though
5429s	for the druid's place against quest
5431s	hunter because it takes a long time to
5433s	actually get enough resources on board
5435s	that uh pride fury is that scary and
5438s	hunter you know if you play down your
5440s	minions one at a time hunter is very
5441s	happy to just pick those apart and
5443s	complete their quest
5444s	yeah i do think at least in my
5446s	experience a lot of the time as hunter
5448s	the times i struggle versus druid are
5451s	when they uh they go wide very very
5453s	quickly whether it's with uh you know
5455s	the squirrels and then drawing all the
5457s	uh the acorns or whether it's just you
5459s	know an early ish oracle gets to you
5461s	know stick or get played with a couple
5463s	of additional minions and then that can
5465s	really snowball because as always and
5467s	you quite rightly pointed out hunter can
5469s	deal with minions on a sort of one or
5471s	two by two basis but when it starts
5474s	becoming oh suddenly there's just four
5476s	extra minions on the board out of
5478s	nowhere that was that's when it gets to
5480s	be a little bit difficult and you need
5482s	more and more specific uh removal tools
5484s	in hunter to make that work as opposed
5487s	to
5487s	well if jaylon plays one or two minions
5490s	a turn
5491s	most removal will be able to at least
5493s	manage that to some aspect so we'll see
5495s	how it goes like i said diving into game
5497s	number three both players currently on a
5499s	4-0 score uh so the winner of this will
5502s	be
5503s	starting the day and continuing the
5505s	tournament in fantastic fashion being at
5507s	five and zero in swiss that's right and
5510s	it's such a big deal as well to start
5512s	off a new day continuing your win streak
5514s	because there are some people who you
5515s	know get the perfect first day and then
5517s	kind of feel cursed going into the next
5519s	day they take a loss and suddenly it's
5521s	all downhill from there so in terms of
5523s	mental as well i feel that round five is
5525s	a very important one mero looking very
5527s	enthused with his opening hand and for
5529s	good reason he had the drakthar and he's
5531s	on coin so he'll be able to get that
5533s	down as early as turn three and not only
5535s	remove jaylon's board but also just
5538s	counter push and stay ahead on board and
5540s	if you're able to get a drekthar that's
5542s	unchallenged you're pretty much running
5543s	away with it
5545s	yeah already jaylen got a bottom feeder
5547s	off the top and sitting with aquatic
5550s	form
5551s	i do wonder if he's gonna now just wait
5553s	even if he has to play off curve uh for
5556s	this bottom feeder to die and then he
5558s	can just aquatic form straight away to
5560s	get the other one or the buffed version
5562s	should i say
5563s	but again that the turn actually just
5565s	doesn't line up so well so we might feel
5568s	the need to go for an aquatic form now
5570s	just to try and fill out with a double
5572s	one drop potentially
5573s	that is very close because like you said
5576s	it's very important to get ahead of the
5578s	hunter in those early turns where
5579s	there's playing the quest and maybe they
5581s	can only remove one minion at a time so
5582s	i think the aquatic form sacrificing
5585s	getting a stronger bottom feeder is
5587s	justified here in order to make sure he
5589s	can actually spend all his mana on
5591s	proactive development moonlit too slow
5593s	here and just drew it of the reef i
5595s	think is not good enough either so
5596s	either picking up a two drop from the
5598s	aquatic form or another one drop to
5600s	spend all his mana i'd be in favor of
5601s	but jaylon definitely was on the fence
5604s	at the end there he is just going to
5606s	hold on to the aquatic form
5609s	it's really really interesting right
5611s	because there's only a few cards that
5613s	would actually kill this bomb feeder
5614s	this turn and now that he's played he's
5617s	effectively got you know two of the same
5618s	minion on the board stat wise which
5621s	means if mero was going to kill a minion
5624s	i think he would probably just kill the
5626s	uh the druid of the reef right and just
5628s	leave the the fish alive for now just to
5631s	make it you know less and less likely
5632s	that it's drawn there or gets accessed
5634s	early in the game
5637s	oh wow yeah double aquatic for him very
5639s	interesting but i think jaylon can
5641s	already smell that there is trouble
5643s	coming because what is quest hunter
5645s	keeping that leads them to just trading
5647s	and playing the wound prey on turn two
5650s	and holding on to the coin not very much
5652s	i think he has to have drachthar on his
5654s	mind uh
5656s	over here he can take jerry rig
5658s	carpenter and play one of the soda soils
5660s	if he wants immediately i'm just looking
5662s	at that as the cleanest mana expenditure
5664s	from the aquatic form
5668s	yeah really tricky i'd always look at
5671s	frostsaber
5673s	uh just to have access to it right just
5675s	because if he gets an oracle then
5677s	suddenly that's the way he can overrun
5679s	hunter uh but with the with the nature
5681s	of what he's drawn so far and what the
5683s	rest of his hand looks like i don't
5685s	think he can rely on it because one it
5687s	just simply won't be cheap enough yet
5689s	but also
5690s	his other drawers off the top would need
5692s	to be very very strong indeed to make an
5695s	early frost wolf turn like really really
5697s	impactful so i do like just going for
5699s	this and just saying you know i'm just
5700s	gonna play loads of minions i'm just
5702s	gonna triple check actually mero's list
5705s	um yeah he is playing the one natural
5708s	explosive trap as well so that is
5710s	something that jaylon does have to at
5711s	least just keep in the back of his mind
5714s	all right it is viper plus glow scale
5716s	pulled from the drexar which is
5718s	admittedly not the end of the world for
5720s	jaylon i think treasure guard would have
5722s	been highly problematic here if it had
5724s	been pulled from drachtara 2 3 still
5726s	manageable even though it really sucks
5729s	to have to trade into these so there's a
5730s	line where jlong just says post
5733s	and face but that line i don't like at
5735s	all because three of these minions can
5737s	already be just traded on board and the
5739s	post is looking not quite effective
5740s	whatsoever
5742s	because he played aquatic farm last turn
5744s	he knows that two of the three cards at
5746s	the bottom right now are frost saber
5748s	matriarch and the jerry rig which can
5750s	still get sow the soil so i'm looking at
5752s	form to get the jerry rig this turn and
5754s	now use the soda soil to um consolidate
5757s	the attack on the board and maybe take
5758s	some more favorable trades
5760s	yeah price fury though
5762s	okay well that's a new one
5764s	that's a great idea
5766s	the fact that merrell's turn was exactly
5769s	drachthar must have been so painful for
5771s	jaylon because i think he quite rightly
5773s	pointed out on this board let's even say
5775s	two of the minions were killed on
5777s	merrell's turn instead of playing
5779s	director the watch post is great still
5781s	right you just play watch post build on
5783s	that board but you are right like the
5785s	minions being you know the director plus
5787s	the two additionals make that so
5788s	difficult i do like this play and
5790s	already we can see that pride's floor
5793s	fury come in clutch because just the
5795s	extra health suddenly well now there's
5797s	three three health minions on the board
5799s	one one health i that requires so many
5802s	specific removal tools from mero that i
5806s	think jaylon's almost certain the board
5808s	will not be cleared this turn even
5810s	explosive trap would not get the job
5812s	done yeah it's very difficult especially
5814s	having seen a wound prey already as one
5816s	of the most like flexible removal tools
5818s	available urchin spines picked up for
5820s	mero which is interesting because he
5823s	doesn't have
5824s	um
5825s	like keep spells to uh pair alongside
5828s	that but maybe off of the tracking if he
5830s	can find a wound prey at some point that
5831s	is pretty nice i want to highlight that
5834s	jaylon his sort of two-turn planning of
5837s	the aquatic forum was pretty clever now
5839s	that i look back on it because i was
5840s	thinking take the soda soil immediately
5842s	from the cherry rig but he actually took
5844s	thorn growth even though he wasn't fully
5846s	spending his mana just to make sure on
5848s	the next turn he could dredge again for
5849s	a potential soda soil and get even more
5851s	targets but of course pivoted when he
5854s	saw that the um
5855s	new dredge option was pridefury which is
5857s	even better
5862s	and this is
5864s	alex put himself in a pretty solid
5866s	position now this tower or watch post is
5869s	really really difficult to deal with and
5872s	the urchin spines obviously can help
5874s	with that as well even though it's not
5876s	optimal just having aim shot itself just
5879s	kill off the air the towers good
5881s	but it's still going to put a couple of
5883s	buffs on the board regardless
5885s	right that is pretty painful indeed
5887s	jaylon
5888s	uh starting with moonlit guidance i
5890s	think is reasonable here like there's a
5891s	line where you just weave in the hero
5893s	power with living roots power of the
5895s	wild and full clear but i honestly think
5897s	he doesn't have to pay that much heed to
5898s	the rajnashan he's at 30. he just needs
5901s	to make sure that he gets the most stats
5902s	on board to make sure that the watch
5904s	post is as annoying as possible and now
5907s	with an additional so the soil picked up
5908s	he can go so living roots power of the
5912s	wild and get so many stats on board
5917s	so for a 2-2 i'd assume
5924s	and living roots for a couple one ones
5926s	and then buff the board entirely and
5928s	then his two bottom feeders have enough
5929s	attack combined to get through the
5930s	treasure guard
5936s	he could have got a slightly different
5938s	route here and ended the turn with less
5940s	minions but the face naga dead as well
5943s	but i think specifically because of
5944s	course the spells only hit face and
5946s	jaylon's on 30
5948s	all the damage should i say only hits
5950s	face
5951s	i think this just works out better
5953s	overall for just an overall game plan as
5956s	opposed to saying oh this is a dangerous
5957s	minion i need to kill it so i will just
5960s	let him trade because is mero really not
5962s	going to trade this 2-3 this turn like i
5965s	i can't really see a world where that
5966s	happens yeah he kind of has to but like
5969s	he said having to go for urchins fines
5971s	and then a spell to kill off the watch
5974s	post means that the board gets two buffs
5976s	before it even dies and that's just
5979s	impossible for romero to deal with
5981s	everything efficiently i feel like
5983s	there's no good way for him out of this
5987s	i'm going to see what's in the tracking
5991s	explosive trap doesn't work with the
5993s	spines because it's only only oh if only
5996s	if it's just your spells played this
5999s	turn
6000s	oh boy i'll be like oh okay
6002s	that would be insane
6006s	yeah mero head in his hands i think he
6008s	knows there's no good way out of this i
6010s	was wondering if there was a potential
6012s	to set up like the stalker tavish but he
6015s	just didn't have it in hand and in order
6017s	to keep drawing he would have to keep
6018s	playing spells which would get the
6020s	minions out of range of even the
6021s	improved explosive trap so all he's done
6024s	is buff j long's board and you know not
6027s	his fault there's just nothing he could
6028s	have done to get out of this
6030s	yeah and i think so the soil does that
6032s	do it now there's gonna be what 21
6042s	yeah i think the only way mero was
6044s	really gonna get out of this game was if
6046s	he had exactly tavish on six
6049s	but the explosive and potentially got
6051s	air uh maneuvers as well to make the
6054s	double face naga if there was a trade
6057s	and then try and just work through that
6058s	way and try and just fight back for that
6060s	board kill off that tower with as few
6062s	minions on as possible but a a really
6065s	big win there for jaylon because that
6067s	matchup as you've mentioned does get
6069s	tricky right you need to be very strong
6071s	with the druid to be able to just
6073s	ignore basically what the hunter is
6075s	going to do and you saw it play out like
6077s	that a couple of good back-to-back turns
6079s	a great self from j long and suddenly
6081s	he's just too wide and outside of like
6083s	we said exactly tavish there was just no
6086s	chance at that point because hunter just
6088s	cannot deal with a board like that
6090s	it's true big win for jaylon and a big
6092s	win for pritierry raven
6095s	love it as far as i'm aware that's just
6097s	a 100 played win rate right now so uh
6100s	from what i've seen so it must just be
6102s	the best card in the deck nigerian
6104s	garden
6106s	yeah i guess so i guess so
6108s	uh but i'm definitely happy to see that
6110s	there is still some sort of variant of
6112s	aggro druid that's been getting the job
6114s	done i mean jaylon is um 4-0 so far and
6117s	has taken another win with the druid so
6118s	he's won with it at least five times
6120s	already uh in the tournament and i just
6124s	really like that there is still some
6125s	variant to this deck that's able to be
6127s	played in the meta game because it shows
6128s	that there's still a lot more decks to
6130s	be discovered out there i think very few
6132s	people had aggro druid on their mind
6134s	when they were coming into this
6135s	tournament as one of the best possible
6137s	brings but it is doing its job of
6139s	targeting some of the greedier decks
6142s	jaylon however gonna move on to his last
6145s	deck that he needs to get a win with
6146s	which is the pirate rogue uh one that
6148s	has been performing you know pretty
6150s	decently throughout the tournament even
6152s	though i feel like it's um power sealing
6154s	is quite low compared to some of the
6156s	other decks that can do truly crazy
6158s	things in the meta there is still
6159s	something to be said for just playing a
6161s	bunch of three threes with stealth and
6162s	going face
6164s	yeah of course and like the the
6165s	swordfish uh weapon in itself just deals
6168s	a ton of damage helps out with keeping
6170s	up the pressure and i agree i think
6172s	pirate rogue it's a absolutely fine deck
6175s	which is just how i describe it it's not
6177s	mind-blowing it's not super weak it's
6180s	just okay and i think if you are
6182s	building an aggro lineup though i can
6185s	definitely see why on and how rogue fits
6188s	in that i think you look at hunter i
6189s	think you look at demon hunter and then
6191s	the choices get a little bit more mixed
6194s	right like people are bringing you know
6195s	the likes of mech paladin and naga mage
6198s	there's this rogue there's aggro druid
6200s	there's a couple of others as well and i
6202s	think like that choice of how you fill
6204s	out the aggro lineup i think there's a
6206s	lot of um room in there to just sort of
6209s	pick what you want to play as opposed to
6211s	maybe what you've decided is strictly
6213s	the best so we'll see how this rogue can
6215s	perform going up against a bit more of a
6217s	standard druid list from merrell here
6220s	with that just sort of usual ramp to it
6222s	there is that one doomsayer in there
6224s	that i wouldn't say is completely
6225s	standard but other than that it's kind
6227s	of more of what we have already seen so
6230s	far gia wild growth available nice and
6233s	early for mero that's exactly what you
6235s	want to see
6236s	that's right this version of kazakhstan
6239s	ramp druid does not run
6241s	the top end extra dragons because we've
6243s	seen some people opting for alexstrasza
6246s	malygos to fulfill the new condition for
6249s	uh kazakhstan instead he has the double
6250s	amalgams of the deep which tends to skew
6253s	the deck more towards like a less greedy
6255s	package so having the doomsayer and
6258s	double dosing kelp keeper also makes
6260s	sense here not running druid of the reef
6261s	but it's either or between kell keeper
6264s	and reef i find
6266s	something that druid has sort of been
6268s	falling into a trap of recently is
6271s	having so many anti-aggro tools that
6273s	they bloat their decks so much and don't
6276s	hit the ramp as consistently but as long
6278s	as you get that first wild growth there
6280s	is reason to smile just like merrow has
6282s	shown us here even has the kelp keeper
6285s	so he'll be having no trouble whatsoever
6287s	dealing with the early birds from jaylon
6289s	yep see plague scientist on offer there
6292s	in the middle i will say the first time
6294s	that got comboed with a puffer fist i
6297s	just stared at my screen for a second as
6299s	the whole board disappeared and was like
6301s	oh yeah that just makes sense but it's
6303s	just one of those things where i didn't
6305s	think of it because i was i wasn't
6306s	playing rogue on day one of the
6307s	expansion or anything and then it
6309s	happened to me i was like oh
6312s	i've lost yep
6314s	yeah it's like okay i'll remember that
6316s	interaction but yeah then
6318s	in theory wild pyro is in standard too
6320s	right so you could do that with the
6321s	plagues if there's some rogue deck that
6323s	could benefit but i doubt it's better
6325s	than puffer fist
6328s	hey though honestly for mero he has wild
6330s	growth and he has scale of anexia and a
6332s	coin do you need anything else versus
6335s	aggro right now i don't know
6337s	[Music]
6339s	[Laughter]
6341s	in general i think like priority number
6343s	one against aggro for druid is just get
6345s	to scale of enyxia right i think that is
6347s	just the first step to winning any aggro
6350s	macho and nourish gets you there very
6352s	cleanly however this is from aquatic
6354s	form so obviously if you pick nourish
6356s	you only get the dredge and not the draw
6358s	so mero here is saying he wants the
6360s	actual cycle in his deck although it is
6363s	a bit iffy now that he knows that at
6365s	least one nourish is at the bottom of
6367s	the deck alongside the um
6370s	what was the other card oh ibus right
6376s	okay so first swordfish in play like you
6378s	said this is just 12 damage on a stick
6381s	um the only sort of awkward part with it
6384s	is sometimes you have to make the
6385s	decision of whether you want the buff on
6387s	the weapon or actually dredging the two
6389s	pirates from the vessel because that's a
6391s	spell
6395s	oh excellent that's nice so yeah just a
6397s	lot of damage again high health minions
6399s	coming out here from j long make it that
6401s	little bit more difficult especially the
6403s	odd health minions right i'm talking a
6405s	lot about scale of enyxia and if you can
6407s	put odd health minions on the board it's
6409s	like well except for one i suppose um
6412s	it's it's really useful right it's a
6414s	whole extra potential trade from your
6416s	opponent which means these minions are
6417s	just more and more likely to air to be
6419s	able to at least have a chance at
6421s	sticking
6422s	yeah the extra health on the courier is
6424s	huge as well it means that the kelp
6426s	keeper if it's going to try and clear
6428s	the courier cannot value trade but
6430s	looking at mero's hand again i think it
6432s	completely makes sense that he took the
6433s	amalgam because he actually had second
6435s	aquatic form so he can just get the
6437s	nourish right now on the turn that he
6439s	can actually draw it and the turn that
6440s	he needs it going into the scale
6445s	oh two nourishes nourished now okay well
6448s	that's funny well at least he can get
6450s	one
6451s	yeah he probably won't see the other for
6453s	the majority of the game but he probably
6455s	won't need it because this hand is
6457s	looking
6458s	quite
6459s	uh potent indeed against rogue
6461s	the combination right kelp keeper now
6463s	gonna do a solid job along with that
6464s	hero power to clear off one of the
6466s	threats then like
6468s	mero's already ready with scale of
6470s	enyxia
6472s	against a current one minion that's a
6474s	2-3 board right now like he's actually
6477s	going to win on tempo in a minute of
6479s	course this vessel looks like it's going
6480s	to be coming down here for jaylon to
6482s	help out and it's a good sort of not a
6484s	counter to scale of a nixia but it makes
6487s	it a little bit more awkward for merrell
6489s	because he can't trade into those
6490s	stealth minions of course but still
6492s	merrell's still kind of just winning on
6494s	board if he just plays scale next to him
6497s	it's kind of absurd it is a strong tempo
6499s	play but again those stealths are huge
6501s	for the reason you said that mero cannot
6503s	take the trades preemptively and that
6505s	leaves him wide open to a potential
6507s	puffer fish pufferfest sorry on the
6510s	other side and to the point that jaylon
6512s	is not even oh okay i thought he was
6514s	gonna keep that in hand but he just
6515s	wants the judge right now gets the
6517s	sunken vessel so he'll have another um
6520s	three
6522s	two three threes off the top next turn
6528s	yeah i'm gonna go fishing with moonlit
6531s	does have the coin still for scale
6534s	excuse me if he wants to
6536s	he can take another scale and go skill
6537s	seal skill but honestly that's not his
6539s	big problem here he is just kind of
6541s	dying because the most damage he can
6543s	remove here is two and he'll take
6545s	another six next turn so he's within
6547s	range of like wicked stab plus second
6550s	swordfish kind of specific still but
6552s	over two turns very easy for jaylon to
6555s	kill merrow so mero really wants to find
6558s	earthen scales i would think uh because
6559s	after playing scale of onyxia his naga
6562s	giant would be cheap on the next turn
6567s	is he gonna double doom say like
6569s	okay okay okay
6571s	double doom say hero power
6576s	it's uh
6577s	very
6578s	clever to play around the two new three
6580s	threes that he knows are coming off the
6582s	top next turn almost certainly um those
6584s	can't attack just yet so it's kind of
6586s	putting jaylon in a spot where he has to
6588s	choose between um leaving merrow at a
6590s	healthy life total or relatively safe
6593s	health total or giving merrell full
6596s	control over the board
6598s	yeah also as well the uh
6600s	no room for krabatoa is actually a thing
6603s	right now isn't it because no other
6605s	minions can trade off because obviously
6606s	the doomsdays have zero attack so like
6609s	having no room to just drop grab a tower
6611s	and try and help you know clear the
6612s	doomsdays with that is a it's actually a
6614s	really big deal
6617s	yeah very nice spot from honestly i
6619s	think scale there would have been a trap
6620s	that i'd fallen into and i would not
6623s	have won the game here but this is
6624s	actually using jaylon's stealth minions
6626s	against him
6628s	so i think jaylon is just going to go
6630s	for the full face game plan which is
6632s	very reasonable um if he
6635s	left or if he had gone for clearing the
6637s	doomsayers that actually unstealths his
6639s	minions and lets mero get a reasonable
6641s	clear with the scale
6645s	big scientist
6647s	does this allow him to clear
6649s	no right
6650s	no no he could just go fishing again
6653s	yeah
6654s	i think because he still has managed to
6656s	do other things with his hand anyway
6659s	just floating did you just
6662s	went out of time was there a great
6663s	reason to not go fishing then again
6666s	um
6667s	depends if he
6670s	wanted to
6671s	like
6673s	honestly i'm not sure yeah i mean he's
6675s	not exactly swimming in manor next turn
6677s	is he right krabatoa is six out of the
6679s	seven he has two two drops and going
6681s	fishing is is one as well so i think
6685s	that was probably just time pressure
6687s	they might have got to him there
6689s	it could easily be wrong of course but
6691s	still
6692s	also
6693s	not sure if you missed the dagger swing
6695s	at the beginning and re-dagger or like
6697s	if but if he had a swing remaining i'm
6699s	pretty sure he would have wanted to go
6701s	face there but it didn't quite catch if
6702s	he had already attacked
6704s	uh mero though still has the same
6706s	problem where there's no earthen scales
6708s	and
6709s	he cannot get out of range of wicked
6711s	stab or mr smite
6713s	so the best he can do is
6715s	develop board which is onyxia i guess
6717s	it's the best way to
6720s	i mean you're still weak to pufferfist
6721s	but at least you have an eight eight
6722s	whereas
6723s	the scale dies the puffer fist entirely
6727s	yeah and the issue as well the
6728s	frustration i imagine is he can't like
6731s	scale coin naga giant because obviously
6733s	it fails the board and there's nothing
6735s	to trade into uh just to try and put on
6737s	like counter pressure because you know
6739s	the hero power's fine but it puts him to
6741s	six not really a safe number and um and
6744s	i'm sure he would have loved to have an
6745s	additional 88 on this board true
6748s	i think the reasoning for scale over
6749s	anexia though is to make sure that he
6751s	has spent that seven mana so by the time
6753s	he top decks on earthen scales he can
6755s	actually go uh naga giant and
6758s	uh very easily
6759s	so jae-long going krabatoa interesting
6766s	i mean he just wants the big weapon
6768s	damage face i guess he can get four face
6770s	here but i'd be interested in looking
6772s	for any shot at mr smite here
6775s	this is tricky again right like look at
6777s	the mana restrictions on this turn
6780s	and jaylon i believe did he float two
6782s	mana last turn
6784s	yes
6785s	like he he could have preemptively
6786s	dredged right and just
6788s	had an idea of what was coming up next
6790s	or chose what was coming up next
6793s	you'd know two out of the three options
6797s	um
6800s	swashburglar
6803s	it's a miracle
6804s	yeah
6809s	hey hook test looks like jay long is
6812s	just gearing up for
6814s	going long game instead
6816s	oh no that's that's burst damage but he
6818s	can't go face with it
6825s	is he got an extra copy of hook tusk and
6827s	will be dredging one off the top i mean
6829s	drawing one from the dredge next turn
6833s	i guess that warrior spell i confess i
6835s	don't remember the name will
6837s	let him trade off uh the miracle growth
6840s	minion pretty easily if something sticks
6842s	on board is it called it very hard
6845s	something like that yeah i was i think
6847s	is it just called hit it hard
6849s	or something i i can't remember
6852s	it's something like that anyway i just
6854s	can't quite remember which one it is but
6857s	amero
6859s	gets the 88 down but again
6861s	it feels like so often when we're we're
6864s	casting and when the others are cast in
6866s	this type of druid it's
6868s	has he found scales has he found scales
6870s	here you know have they found scales it
6872s	feels like such a key card right now
6874s	especially obviously because we're in a
6875s	meta now where you're either playing the
6877s	druid or you're playing an aggro lineup
6879s	to try and kill the druids so of course
6881s	scales is important but it feels like we
6883s	we've seen players struggle to find it
6885s	so often it's kind of strange
6888s	yeah i mean a lot needs to go right for
6891s	joy they need to draw the ramp in the
6892s	right order and then the card draw and
6894s	then have the scale when you already
6896s	have a big minion which is kind of
6898s	dependent on you having found miracle
6899s	growth or having played a naga giant and
6902s	the nerf to miracle growth is indirectly
6904s	unnerved to scales as well because it's
6906s	one of the best targets for earthen
6907s	scales
6908s	anyway jaylon has a double hook test now
6911s	both active of course and he can choose
6913s	to steal
6915s	an 88 here
6916s	don't know if that's good enough
6919s	but i think it's better than deck yeah
6921s	it's better than everything else isn't
6923s	it
6927s	america look at merrell's pikachu
6929s	shocked face there yeah
6933s	taking the taunt is a big deal because
6934s	it lets jaylon continue to push that
6936s	chip damage with a weapon and because
6938s	the rogue one damage per turn kind of
6940s	evens out with the druid gain one armor
6942s	per turn as long as jay long keeps on
6944s	going face at least once with the dagger
6947s	he's forever putting merrell within
6949s	range of like wicked stab and dagger
6952s	the big deal as well is if raid boss is
6955s	the response here from merrow then
6958s	jaylen gets to just steal raid boss exer
6960s	as well because he has the second hook
6961s	tusk in hand and i think that would be a
6963s	really good pickup just to be like okay
6965s	well you're probably going to have the
6967s	two ones fine but i just get to steal
6969s	the 88 again and just reduce the
6971s	potential damage coming his way be
6974s	another 50 50 though right because this
6975s	this naga giant's probably sticking
6977s	around if raid boss happens
6979s	uh that's true that is true yeah
6981s	but if he gets raid pass that is true
6983s	then he clears everything
6991s	but he is putting jaylon on a clock
6994s	that's still not a wicked stab
6998s	i have to check if he's even running it
6999s	i got used to people running i can look
7002s	uh he is
7003s	yes yes he is okay
7005s	no mr smite either
7008s	i mean it just has to be hooked us can
7009s	hit a nixia right
7013s	um
7014s	if he wants he can guarantee getting the
7017s	anexia by going hit it very hard first
7020s	and then killing the other eight eight
7021s	and then
7023s	look dust but i don't know if there's a
7025s	reason to do that because like
7027s	you can try for the 50 50 and you oh
7029s	yeah yeah because like if you
7031s	go hook tusk and miss the 50 50 then you
7034s	can't kill enyxia because there's still
7035s	a well one for you yeah yeah
7038s	but he's going crabatoa instead which
7040s	will let him clear at least one of the
7042s	eight eights
7044s	the new dredge option is swordfish which
7046s	is not amazing
7053s	but
7054s	kinda has to take it just because it's
7056s	more damage damage isn't it yeah that's
7058s	the i was looking at starfish in case
7060s	you're worried about any shenanigans
7062s	happening from merrell but i think at
7063s	this point in the game
7066s	elon just needs more damage
7068s	yeah because jaylon's gonna push the
7070s	weapon face and put mero within range of
7074s	the
7075s	um
7077s	well just the crab weapon to begin with
7079s	but also swordfish potentially that's a
7080s	scale so finally
7085s	all right that's plus nine health if he
7087s	wants it straight up
7091s	is incidentally still not safe to like
7094s	buff swordfish and smite together yeah
7097s	i think does he scale
7100s	right away and then and then just uh
7102s	earthen scales
7104s	and then that you know finish the turn
7105s	out because he then it make keeps the
7107s	anixia very very safe and um and can
7110s	still you know threaten lethal of course
7113s	eventually
7116s	surely wants to kill this krabatoa but
7118s	he also wants to set up two turn right
7122s	true i think he could still set up two
7125s	turn even with the enyxia trading but i
7128s	don't think that line involved playing
7130s	wild growth i'm a bit confused about a
7132s	growth to start because i would like to
7133s	have more mana here to play even just
7136s	like a straight up kazakhstan
7138s	potentially
7139s	yes yeah
7141s	yeah i don't know like to to me like the
7143s	the scales and i i guess like because
7146s	the scales would still keep a nixia
7148s	immune because there would still be
7150s	loads of whelps left right
7152s	a little bit surprised here still he's
7154s	sitting on 11 got to be feeling okay
7156s	about that
7160s	very tense but jaylon knows that his
7162s	next dredge isn't particularly potent
7164s	right all the bottom cards in the deck
7165s	were not good he took the plague
7167s	scientist but doesn't have puffer fist
7169s	but he can now guaranteed steal the
7171s	anexia yep
7174s	and he just has to right it's too
7176s	threatening otherwise
7185s	all right
7187s	i think he goes face with the weapon
7189s	rather than killing the well but okay
7191s	disagrees
7196s	yeah he does need like two cards to have
7198s	complete lethal from hand so fair enough
7200s	doesn't value the break point right now
7202s	in mero's health guff is the draw
7206s	uh
7208s	this has to be big though because goff
7210s	doesn't actually
7212s	i guess he can coin into scale anyway
7214s	which is fine uh he can clear the board
7217s	with this right if you just play scale
7220s	yeah because the 4 4 will wake up yep
7224s	now this is going to evade out the ramp
7227s	hero power as well and then scale sure
7230s	looking a little bit scary for jay long
7232s	now i think it feels like it's slipping
7234s	away
7235s	it really does
7236s	16 is so big of a hurdle to get over at
7239s	this point
7240s	uh but he can stabilize with a puffer
7243s	fist draw
7245s	oh wait sorry the board's already clear
7247s	so what he wants is
7248s	board development
7251s	it just needs more stuff oh thank you
7252s	got the drop
7254s	well it does give him some reassurance
7256s	against the next board because the one
7258s	thing he can be assured of at least is
7260s	that if druid is off board they don't
7262s	have burst to kill jae long from 11 um
7264s	kazakhstan not active yet even wondering
7267s	then if he was ever supposed to just
7269s	play the starfish first
7277s	yeah you could think about it if like
7278s	most of the pirate draws were under
7281s	like five under four mana to play like
7284s	you could just say have an extra tempo
7285s	two four here
7287s	yeah like unless you draw exactly smite
7289s	right i think any other card is fine uh
7292s	which means then you just have an extra
7295s	million on board obviously get drawing
7296s	smite and playing it is great that was
7298s	probably the best outcome overall
7301s	all right so for mero here
7307s	board clear potential truly running out
7309s	i think he might have one more kelp
7311s	keeper left but
7312s	he doesn't have
7313s	enough mana to like get it and play a
7316s	spell that would wake it up alongside
7317s	oracle but there's
7319s	miracle group
7321s	where the scales he can just use sarah's
7323s	scale scales right
7327s	so he'd gain
7328s	five and then
7330s	six
7331s	he could nightmare the new sarah and
7333s	then scale skill is that a thing oh i
7335s	mean yeah i'm very okay with that as
7338s	well
7339s	i mean obviously he could just cast
7341s	scales but then he i feel like with the
7343s	amount of cards he has left there is
7345s	actually a chance he just gets burnt out
7346s	of this right because kaz isn't active
7348s	but i think like yosera nightmare scales
7351s	sight
7354s	yeah the yusera would also allow him to
7358s	dream the
7359s	spite if he wanted yeah but obviously
7362s	dreaming smite doesn't really reduce
7364s	maximum burst from jaylon it just means
7366s	he has more mana he has to spend to
7368s	actually get every pirate to charge so
7370s	in the envero is just going for the
7372s	kazakhstan play i think this is fine he
7375s	doesn't really need kazakhstan as a win
7377s	condition although now that i say that
7380s	he might like he's deeper in fatigue but
7382s	i think he still has one giant
7384s	yeah i think he's okay but i also think
7387s	he would have been fine if he'd done the
7388s	yasera play as well and this is going to
7390s	be a nice clear though with the the
7392s	little combo there with the poison and
7395s	means that jaylon can just pile on with
7397s	this pressure
7399s	crazy he's just out valuing mero at this
7401s	point
7404s	wait is he just gonna get omega punished
7406s	for going wide
7409s	oh wait for merrell to well he can
7412s	yazara awakens right he just plays you
7414s	sarah and i wake up that's true the
7415s	whole board's gone and
7417s	merrill's still on ten
7419s	like
7420s	yeah but with no smite that seems
7422s	weirdly enough pretty safe to me
7426s	i just forgot awakens there's a card
7428s	that's a good card unfortunately
7431s	anymore
7432s	yeah
7436s	ramp laughing sister
7438s	does even need to ramp i mean you might
7440s	as well if you have the mana
7443s	just oracle
7446s	it's gonna ramp
7450s	oh man
7451s	it's a tense one
7453s	[Music]
7455s	with
7458s	just
7458s	kind of dead
7461s	the nightmare
7464s	no matter what he does
7468s	yeah there's there's literally nothing
7471s	to do there is there
7473s	rough game there and mero evens the
7475s	series up he's still got some fight left
7478s	in him and look at look at what the win
7480s	means to him i think
7481s	he was very much expecting to lose that
7485s	game and therefore the series because
7487s	it got so close so many times it looked
7490s	like j uh it looked like jay was going
7492s	to be able to just finish the game
7494s	multiple times he had multiple different
7496s	outs
7497s	but it just wasn't quite enough he got
7499s	the earthen scales and i think clearly
7501s	most importantly he got the earthing
7503s	scales from a moon touched amulet right
7505s	here moonlit sorry uh so he could
7508s	actually double up the armor game and it
7510s	obviously it was helpful that the kazati
7512s	did go for the kazakhstan to be able to
7514s	gain that much additional armor because
7516s	obviously the sierra would have gave him
7518s	different benefits if we've gone for
7520s	that but that might not necessarily been
7522s	enough help
7523s	yeah he would have gotten five and then
7525s	six instead of the nine and then ten
7528s	from kazakhstan unless he committed the
7530s	nightmare then he would have gotten nine
7532s	and ten as well but i think kind of
7534s	saving that ysera while jaylon just
7536s	didn't know it was the discover was a
7538s	big deal here right because jay long i
7540s	think against almost any other
7542s	discoverer felt very comfortable going
7544s	white on board and i completely do not
7546s	fault him for taking that line but that
7547s	ysera was absolutely the ace in the hole
7550s	here for mero and that means that it
7553s	does come down to the very last game of
7556s	this series uh demon hunter was banned
7558s	right yeah it's hunter rogue i believe
7562s	okay
7563s	be wrong let me triple check yes uh it's
7565s	rogue versus hunter yeah so we are of
7567s	course going to see the rogue again
7568s	we've just seen jaylon lose with it and
7570s	then mero is gonna be on his hunter uh
7573s	which is a question to that i believe
7575s	we've already seen as well so both the
7577s	players on there i think two decks they
7580s	have already lost with in this series
7582s	now so it's gonna be the battle of which
7584s	one's actually gonna be able to take
7585s	over the line and honestly
7587s	i still like the quest hunter here i
7589s	think the uh the rogue minions in most
7592s	cases come out at a reasonable enough
7595s	pace that hunter can keep up
7597s	yeah it's kind of a close one i would
7599s	say because if the rogue is just going
7601s	for the usual curve then yes i think
7604s	hunter can very easily pick apart those
7606s	boards but there are the um super early
7609s	vessel draws vessel into dredge in
7611s	particular that is i think too much
7613s	damage for hunter to come back against
7615s	because hunter really doesn't have any
7617s	healing outside of the armor from tavish
7619s	which is conditional at best and you as
7622s	the rogue still have always that out for
7625s	wicked stab and mr smite but it time and
7627s	time again it feels like rogue just
7628s	takes too long before they get a
7630s	consistent enough amount of cards drawn
7632s	to find those last bits of burst
7636s	let's see how it goes last game of the
7638s	series jaylon on the top on the rogue
7640s	this is merrell on the hunter
7644s	it goes to five and zero which is
7647s	such a good way to continue the time of
7649s	course the best way you can continue but
7651s	you start to see i think the light at
7654s	the end of the tunnel once you sort of
7655s	pass that five win stage right you think
7657s	okay just a couple more and i'm pretty
7660s	much guaranteed into top 16.
7665s	all right mero
7667s	starting off with only one spell
7670s	interesting i was wondering if there's
7671s	any value to just cashing in the wound
7673s	prey but with the way his hand works out
7675s	he still has like one cost spell into
7678s	hero power on a minion next turn if
7680s	there was some target but uh
7683s	now that there's none just going to
7685s	continue progressing the quest with the
7686s	more expensive spells yeah also just a
7689s	chance that uh coin minion was going to
7691s	get played by jaylon which meant he
7693s	might have needed the extra bits of
7695s	damage from wound prey to be able to
7697s	actually kill it off
7698s	for example obviously five health minion
7700s	is a bit of a nightmare for hunter to
7702s	actually deal with uh whereas now we're
7704s	there you know the wound
7706s	wound prey i'll try and speak properly
7708s	and you know drag a vein sharp piercing
7710s	shot there are ways you can actually get
7711s	through this a little bit easier
7714s	a bit awkward though if you don't use
7717s	piercing shot here because there was a
7719s	way to get the dragon bane shot to
7722s	multiply but it would have to be over
7724s	two turns right because if you go wound
7727s	prey then dragon bane shot then you can
7728s	hear a power for zero but you're not
7730s	honorably killing it so
7731s	just says let's just go for the simpler
7733s	path get one spell further in the quest
7736s	progression so now he can make the hero
7738s	power cost zero after just playing wound
7741s	prey on the next turn and very reliably
7743s	get a double dragon bane shot yeah
7747s	sorry i just can't read mero's
7748s	expressions if he's happy or sad to see
7750s	that because like the three health
7751s	pufferfist is no big problem for him to
7753s	deal with yeah i was gonna say i i'm
7756s	assuming he was happy purely because
7760s	uh i was just about to say that i
7761s	completely agree with your point in the
7763s	following turns it becomes so likely
7766s	that mero can cycle dragon bane shot
7769s	from this point onwards with the womb
7771s	praying hand and the hero power as you
7772s	mentioned that just any minion that
7775s	isn't ex or that isn't exactly you know
7777s	vessel being played is a a probably
7780s	absolutely fine for mero to deal with
7783s	he's just like okay if it's this health
7785s	i'll pick her apart this way if it's
7786s	that health i'll pick apart that way so
7788s	i think as long as um
7790s	anything that wasn't vessel came down he
7792s	was probably okay with it
7794s	and the best part is
7795s	instead of cycling the dragon vein shot
7797s	he can also just put the quest at one
7799s	more to completion so wound pray tavish
7802s	is available next turn already
7805s	exactly what you're looking for is just
7807s	getting tavish live as soon as possible
7809s	and not necessarily an issue in this
7811s	matchup but also being able to play
7813s	tavis the turn you generate it
7815s	is important to be able to do in quest
7817s	hunter as well like i said no mutants in
7819s	this list of course but still
7821s	my draw for jaylon is huge though
7823s	because he just has my shadow step again
7825s	the next turn which is another 12 damage
7827s	over two turns and the wicked stab which
7830s	adds to 16 and the swordfish which adds
7832s	to 20 and even more than that if you
7835s	play the weapon earlier so it is just
7837s	kind of a
7838s	race to face here i don't think he can
7840s	afford to mess around dealing with tavis
7842s	here he just hopes he isn't dead the
7844s	next turn
7846s	and find a way to weave in the weapon oh
7849s	this is such a big call because it's so
7852s	likely
7854s	that jay long is dead right it's so
7857s	likely if he just goes smite face
7860s	but
7862s	we can see mero has possibly the worst
7864s	post-tavish hand ever with limited mana
7867s	and needing to kill your opponent next
7869s	turn right he has uh the he has face
7872s	naga which is
7873s	fine but the problem is he has rust drop
7875s	viper and then mystery draw and it all
7877s	costs a manner if he wants like cycle
7879s	the viper then he has to still get a
7880s	good enough spell so he needs just a
7883s	little bit of damage if this tavish
7885s	lives and if this tavis doesn't live
7887s	he's going to need a lot of work to be
7889s	done in this short time period
7891s	i'm going to go out on the limb and say
7893s	the tavish is living but for jay long
7895s	it's still really awkward because the
7897s	way the mana break points work he cannot
7899s	fit in the weapon and also smite and
7901s	shadow step across two turns because if
7904s	he saves this might this turn and goes
7905s	for a weapon then he only has seven mana
7907s	the next turn and you need um like more
7909s	than that you're able to go four mana
7911s	might you need eight to go the four mana
7913s	smite then step it and play it again
7915s	it's just super awkward here so he fits
7918s	in the filet fighter instead that one
7920s	damage might give him a different break
7922s	point uh so he does have prep sorry so
7924s	it's still lethal the next turn if he's
7926s	not dead right
7931s	quick shot
7934s	god
7935s	he has to face right
7937s	yeah face naga
7939s	is five damage
7941s	no no with the hero power it's lethal
7943s	right yeah like i said so unlikely that
7947s	you're actually uh
7948s	you know you're actually going to
7949s	survive at this point um in the game as
7952s	jay long but i do think jay played that
7955s	game as it should have been played i
7957s	think if you have smite double shadow
7959s	step you're against the quest hunter
7961s	that seems to be progressing very
7963s	quickly indeed with that opening uh i
7966s	think that going smite and setting up
7968s	you know the sort of three-turn lethal
7970s	plan i suppose you could call it um was
7972s	correct but the the the one cost spell
7976s	into tavish and then just having uh
7978s	getting hold of the you know the right
7979s	amount of damage is very difficult to
7981s	fight back from
7982s	i do like jaylon's sort of macro game
7985s	plan of just you know not bothering with
7987s	the board of going for a smite but there
7988s	is a question of whether he needed to
7990s	shadow step the smite right on the turn
7993s	he played it because if you are
7994s	expecting your opponent to go one cost
7996s	hero power and tavish there's not
7999s	actually a way to kill the smite as a
8001s	five health minion but there is the risk
8004s	of they just don't play tavish that turn
8006s	let's say they have piercing shot again
8007s	and then you're down like 12 damage
8010s	further because you didn't shadow step
8012s	it and you don't have a shadow step
8013s	target later on pros and cons for sure
8016s	um
8016s	very difficult spot i would say yeah
8018s	it's tricky isn't it because in that
8019s	world if like say the brave play i'll
8022s	choose to use those words uh is leave
8025s	smite and uh he plays the tavish anyway
8028s	smite lives then suddenly the shadow
8030s	step on the three one right to like
8032s	charge twice is actually pretty big on
8035s	that turn uh potentially and can speed
8037s	up the clock but still a really good win
8039s	there for for mero it was a very close
8041s	series indeed but the hunter managed to
8043s	get over the line the rogue seemed to
8045s	struggle just a tiny bit even though the
8047s	last game was close but i believe
8050s	that he's done it for the uh the
8051s	coverage for this round and i think we
8053s	have got round number six coming up very
8055s	very shortly indeed so we are going to
8057s	go to a quick break and set that up so
8058s	don't go anywhere and we'll be back with
8060s	more
8064s	[Music]
8070s	[Music]
8112s	ah
8115s	[Music]
8135s	[Music]
8151s	[Applause]
8153s	[Music]
8207s	[Music]
8225s	so
8229s	[Music]
8256s	hello everybody and welcome back to
8258s	master tour voyage to the sunken city
8262s	my name is tj and i'm joined by saddle
8265s	to kick off
8266s	round number six here uh in the swiss
8269s	portion of the event how you doing today
8270s	buddy
8271s	first off don't talk to me or my son
8273s	ever again
8275s	uh yeah it's it's going great tj i am
8279s	significantly more well rested than i
8281s	was yesterday so significantly uh more
8284s	engaged the brain is firing the synapses
8287s	are all connecting it's going to be a
8288s	good day of hearthstone casting i'm sure
8290s	and feels good to be jumping in at round
8292s	six because this is where the rubber
8295s	really meets the road and we are going
8296s	to have burrow going up against jwc
8299s	here
8301s	two players um up towards right to the
8303s	top of the standings borrow a player
8306s	that i know a little bit more about than
8308s	jwc he is a player that has been around
8310s	the scene for quite some time and as
8312s	larinder
8313s	informed me just as we were jumping onto
8315s	the broadcast he is of course a former
8317s	dreamhack champion
8318s	as well
8319s	but jwc is a fairly new name to my uh
8323s	radar perhaps particularly influenced by
8325s	the fact that he keeps changing what his
8326s	uh romanized name is so it's a little
8329s	bit hard to keep track of what he's been
8330s	doing throughout time but good matchup
8333s	looking forward to it for sure
8335s	yeah and uh
8337s	honestly subtle i think the uh the big
8339s	story here is
8341s	um
8343s	what decks are actually having success
8345s	here
8347s	in the masters tour
8349s	if you look at sort of the breakdown of
8352s	the players that are
8354s	you know currently five zero four one
8357s	there's a lot more like uh uh paladin
8360s	and mage in those lists than i thought
8362s	there would be uh coming into this week
8365s	i thought that those decks while they've
8367s	been
8368s	reasonable on ladder would kind of
8370s	falter in a
8371s	in a tournament environment what have
8373s	been your thoughts on what decks we've
8375s	seen emerge as powerhouses yeah it's
8378s	interesting because we're seeing some of
8379s	these lineups towards the top if you
8381s	look at line-up win rates some of these
8382s	lineups are doing okay holistically as a
8385s	whole but um individually some of these
8387s	decks do have quite low win rate and the
8390s	exception to that being mech mage which
8391s	has a much higher win rate than maybe
8393s	might have been expected i was a big
8395s	supporter of
8397s	mech mage or a hot bucket mage as we
8399s	will now be calling it
8400s	throughout most of the first couple of
8402s	days of the expansion but then i think a
8404s	couple of decks came along and just
8405s	hated it out a little bit but it does
8407s	seem to be having a massive impact in
8408s	this um the aggro druid though or the
8411s	beast druid or various different
8413s	representations of this kind of strategy
8415s	has looked a little hit a hit or miss on
8418s	broadcast um but overall i like this
8421s	anti-druid strategy it's certainly one
8423s	of the things that i looked at coming
8425s	into this
8426s	where
8427s	um
8428s	the idea that druid was targetable a
8430s	week ago probably wouldn't have entered
8432s	the radar because it was just too strong
8434s	but the idea that it is now uh is a lot
8437s	more acceptable because of the small
8440s	windows of weakness that we have seen
8442s	again on stream we've been seeing druid
8443s	kind of break through that press a
8445s	little bit but i do still think this
8447s	quad aggro target druid strategy is
8449s	perhaps a winning one for the masters
8451s	tour as a whole
8453s	yeah a couple of uh crossroads watch
8456s	posts
8457s	in the deck here as well uh
8459s	and the wing commander mulvrik
8462s	i was all losing my train of thought
8464s	blood's rushing to my head
8466s	[Music]
8470s	it's crazy under here
8473s	bus hunter for jwc
8476s	wait what
8477s	what are you under
8480s	the
8482s	water the ocean oh i see i see what
8484s	you're going for yeah okay
8488s	blood still rush to your head when
8489s	you're under water if you're upside down
8493s	good question
8494s	yes actually no yeah gravity would
8496s	suggest yes i agree but i'm not entirely
8498s	sure i don't think so just based on
8501s	experience of being underwater but my
8503s	experience of being underwater is quite
8505s	limited
8507s	i mean come on saddle that was a bait we
8509s	all know that gravity doesn't exist
8510s	underwater
8512s	okay fair enough
8515s	um pretty standard variation of uh
8518s	quest hunter here for jwc
8521s	and uh i think this is
8524s	outside of crossroads watch post
8526s	shenanigans i feel like this is a decent
8528s	matchup because you can keep control of
8530s	the board early on
8531s	um and we've seen you you mentioned sort
8534s	of hit or miss with a lot of these decks
8535s	that fit in this strategy i feel like
8537s	the current iterations of b strut are
8539s	one of them
8540s	um
8541s	doesn't quite feel like the deck has the
8543s	consistency that it once did
8546s	uh in terms of
8547s	you know building an early board making
8549s	it large and killing your opponent
8552s	um obviously it can still do that maybe
8554s	just not as at the rate that it did you
8556s	know post location post expansion but
8559s	data access to more cards so obviously
8561s	every deck is going to feel more refined
8563s	when you have access to more cards i do
8565s	think it still has the consistency of
8567s	the first two things right where it's
8568s	able to build the board it can maybe
8570s	land composting on there and it can draw
8572s	a whole bunch more cards the problem is
8574s	that very few of those cards actually
8575s	end up killing you right because you're
8577s	the big miss for me is arbor up like
8579s	that was the card that just ended games
8581s	super rapidly and i think perhaps some
8583s	of the inconsistency that's coming from
8585s	these druid builds is because people
8587s	really aren't settled on how to build
8590s	the deck to play around that there's no
8592s	uh some decks are playing a sharon
8594s	garden some decks are playing
8596s	[Laughter]
8598s	genuinely it took me like two seconds to
8601s	even find out where he'd go hi how how
8603s	are you hi oh
8605s	he's a good boy
8606s	[Music]
8611s	hello tj
8614s	um
8615s	yeah some decks are playing in sharon
8616s	gardens uh some are going for pride's
8619s	fury uh there's various different ways
8621s	where you can find a way to kill your
8622s	opponent but i think the inconsistency
8625s	perhaps just comes from so many people
8626s	disagreeing on what the right way to do
8628s	that is even with this like straight up
8630s	aggro druid versus the more beast druid
8632s	that we've seen from other things right
8634s	[Music]
8635s	how are you even keeping a straight face
8638s	[Music]
8653s	oh no where's he gone
8662s	back just just cancel hearthstone i
8665s	think i found the sunken city i'm not
8667s	sure if we've peaked or we've troughed
8669s	but we've definitely reached an extreme
8671s	at one end of the scale and it's
8673s	probably not going anywhere from here so
8674s	just cancel hearthstone at this point
8679s	all right
8680s	here we go
8683s	got some actual hearthstone game footage
8686s	uh going on here
8687s	that we can talk about
8690s	okay
8696s	both of the historic good cards in the
8700s	aggro druid list are found in the
8702s	opening hand there with oracle balloon
8704s	and razer main battle guard he's going
8705s	to choose to keep neither of them though
8707s	which i do think makes sense i think he
8709s	wants to just explode on the board as
8711s	quickly as possible and both of those
8713s	cards do tend to be a little bit slow in
8715s	this position aquatic form can just give
8717s	you that consistency you need to be able
8719s	to find those uh early curve starts and
8723s	tj it's time to sound the pack mule
8726s	alarm
8735s	the pacmu alarm
8746s	if you keep aquatic form i think you
8748s	keep it because you're looking for a one
8750s	drop but
8751s	i guess just most power on the board
8752s	here oh he's just he's just gonna get it
8755s	out of the way right now
8758s	history pack mule is gonna be played
8760s	onto the board
8764s	and an awkward
8765s	opener on the other side from jwc as
8768s	well barb nets is a fantastic card of
8770s	course for quest hunter but a little bit
8773s	awkward on maybe turns one or two when
8775s	you don't really have two fantastic
8777s	legitimate targets to use it on
8779s	especially in such a board base match up
8780s	as this
8781s	um you know using
8783s	barb nets to go one on a minion one on
8786s	face does seem a little bit wasteful
8788s	because you're probably going to need
8789s	all of those procs to clear minions over
8791s	the course of the game right it's one of
8793s	the best board removal tools
8795s	in this matchup in particular
8798s	and does find treasure guard as well
8801s	now we're back in things
8803s	to be able to activate both of those
8805s	barbed nets
8806s	those should have a good control of the
8808s	board early
8810s	um
8811s	and
8813s	to be honest just playing rosh hashanah
8814s	on the board here is pretty good because
8816s	it's gonna
8817s	um take some attention
8820s	away from borough's game plan because he
8821s	really doesn't want to uh have to leave
8824s	that up so uh i like jdbc's
8827s	position right now in this early game
8830s	i do too certainly not the ridiculous
8833s	star the borough would have wanted he's
8835s	not spread three or four minions wide
8837s	across the board at this point which he
8838s	would love to be i'm sure
8840s	it's just kind of individual minions one
8842s	at a time at this point and that's what
8844s	quest hunter does so well at being able
8845s	to pick apart and now as you said
8847s	treasure guard coming down one five a
8850s	little bit innocuous in some matchups
8852s	but against the very token heavy decks
8854s	like druid one five is kind of perfect
8856s	especially uh it's kind of doing the
8858s	candle shot job right where it's
8860s	supporting these two damage and one
8861s	damage removal spells to actually be a
8864s	relevant tool to clear up minions
8866s	and then when it's done its job it draws
8868s	a card
8869s	incredible yeah
8873s	another one
8878s	um trucking should help out
8881s	yeah
8882s	farm that's not
8885s	i guess barb nuts is still good here
8887s	it's pretty cool it's awkward if only if
8889s	only you could just
8892s	double it up you know
8895s	if only it was still bugged ah
8898s	those were the days
8901s	those were the days
8904s	were they though that's not which side
8907s	you were on i absolutely weren't
8912s	i tell you what i don't miss is the
8914s	random people in chat saying well no
8917s	it's supposed to work like that it deals
8918s	damage twice no
8921s	read the card
8925s	reading card imagine reading cards yeah
8927s	good point
8936s	well when you don't have the board
8942s	trog seems
8944s	not good
8946s	got so many cards how does he even make
8947s	use of these cards
8953s	i guess worst case he could just go
8954s	battle guard
8965s	we'll sow the soil
8973s	why is this b-short hand so expensive it
8976s	really is
8977s	it really is
8982s	it kind of shouldn't be but i think
8984s	burrow is responding to it well like
8986s	this is the trick with bistrid right
8988s	sometimes you do just go off with all
8990s	your one drops early and you just have
8991s	this in the same board and you start
8992s	buffing it when you don't have that i do
8995s	think that just playing out one two or
8998s	three drop every turn is just never
8999s	going to get there with bistro you do
9001s	just kind of have to save up for
9002s	something ridiculous to do in one turn
9005s	again the flaw in that plan that i point
9007s	out though is that when you used to do
9009s	that you used to make this one insane
9010s	board with oracle razer main whatever it
9013s	ended up being and then because your
9014s	opponent couldn't clear that for one
9016s	turn because he'd just done so much boom
9018s	arbor up they're dead right that that is
9020s	the part that's now been taken away from
9022s	bistro it's so if you when you make that
9024s	big board you then kind of need to have
9026s	to have it stick for more than one turn
9028s	which i think is the trickier part of
9030s	the deck now
9036s	which the window of opportunity might be
9039s	yeah like just
9041s	right when quest is complete you just
9044s	go crazy on the board once jwc completes
9047s	the quest in its entirety so that it
9049s	makes it awkward for him to have to play
9052s	tavish
9058s	yeah makes sense we saw a similar
9060s	situation in the previous series in the
9063s	wrap up from round five
9065s	um that myself jira and raven were just
9067s	having a little debate about just before
9068s	we jumped on with the the mr smite in
9070s	the shadow step and like what the best
9072s	play was to be able to disrupt the
9074s	tavish on the other side for the quest
9076s	hunter because
9077s	that is certainly one of the things you
9078s	know quest decks are naturally so linear
9081s	in the way that they function in that
9082s	they have very predictable turns
9084s	particularly on the on the actual
9086s	rewards terms right where you can
9088s	leverage
9089s	a little bit of exploitation there
9091s	against them because you are just so
9093s	obviously know what they want to do
9105s	ah
9108s	i wonder
9116s	found ourselves in a predicament haven't
9118s	we
9130s	yeah
9131s	just in the no no tavish nonsense here
9134s	just in the business of
9135s	uh keeping this board in check and uh
9137s	keeping the damage here power
9140s	i think this is wise still has control
9142s	of the board
9144s	one spell away now from uh from full
9146s	quest completion
9148s	as well as a card draw as well
9150s	locked loaded and ready to go
9152s	in the treasure guard
9155s	okay
9157s	ugh
9159s	the oracle has been found
9162s	which really incentivizes picking up the
9164s	one drops here
9166s	yep
9168s	it's got a trog in hand though and
9171s	the battle guard
9173s	maybe
9178s	i don't know which post is never coming
9179s	down right now though no
9183s	well you could set it up because jwc
9185s	wants to play tavis next turn assuming
9187s	that yeah makes up a spell
9189s	that could be used for it but it's just
9191s	gonna go for the squirrel
9195s	no vowels in that word
9198s	when you're an american there's no
9200s	vowels in the word squirrel
9202s	you're serious
9203s	it's the raw vowel
9207s	oh yes rl that famous vowel that we all
9209s	know and love
9211s	hey
9212s	[Music]
9217s	drag main shot big pickup any
9219s	two mana or less spell off the top would
9221s	have been lovely here
9234s	that does mean tavis will be coming down
9236s	here more than likely
9238s	it is a
9240s	relatively ugly hand for just straight
9242s	up pushing lethal on the next turn
9243s	though which is the problem and i
9244s	suppose this is where we can now get
9246s	back into the debate of having a
9248s	crossroads watch post in your hand right
9250s	now right so
9252s	um it would be very very difficult for
9254s	jwc to just start throwing spells
9256s	straight at face on the following turn
9258s	if he was going to go for a two turn
9259s	lethal setup himself could you just be
9261s	plopping a watch post right now and that
9263s	would make your board probably just
9265s	counter lethal on the following turn
9267s	yeah that's
9268s	kind of what i was thinking because no
9269s	matter what he did that turn he was
9271s	going to load up the board if he didn't
9272s	play squirrel he's going to play trog
9274s	um
9276s	so
9278s	that's kind of where my head was at
9280s	does have double buff potential here
9282s	with uh
9285s	uh the double power of the wild
9288s	so the soil i mean still a lot of damage
9290s	regardless it is it is in dudes
9294s	and i guess even with crosswords watch
9297s	posts like if jwc was in a desperate
9299s	situation could just tavish and look for
9301s	improved explosive trap
9306s	all right decides to grab the crossroads
9308s	watch post now
9310s	and i'm assuming is just going to double
9312s	buff on this turn still just to make
9314s	this as difficult as possible
9317s	the issue here is that you run the risk
9318s	of the seven damage still going phase
9320s	from the tavis so yeah i think this is
9321s	wise to double trade these squirrels to
9323s	remove that possibility
9326s	it gets to push seven
9329s	does mean this is still a very difficult
9331s	two turn lethal setup from here because
9334s	obviously the crossroads watch post
9335s	can't attack itself so it doesn't matter
9337s	how big that gets individually so all
9340s	jwc really has to do here is pick off a
9342s	couple of minions
9344s	ah but it's so weird
9348s	because you can't even uh like honorable
9350s	kill with the dragon be i guess you
9353s	could you would like hear a power three
9357s	yeah hero power the full three and then
9359s	dragon bane shot it
9361s	and then then you wouldn't have ah
9365s	you throw a nothing face
9367s	i guess you director can come down
9371s	um
9374s	you could go like quick shot the 4-2
9377s	which would then be a 4-3 as it dies
9380s	then hero power
9383s	on one of the
9384s	[Music]
9386s	then hero power the new 3-3 annoyatron
9389s	and then dragon bane shot that
9392s	yeah
9393s	or you could just hear a power pass
9396s	i guess that's fair
9398s	yeah no that's true actually
9406s	okay
9408s	removes interesting
9410s	yeah i wasn't really looking at the
9411s	director line but when he started to do
9413s	this i was almost wondering whether he
9414s	was going to play zero spells and then
9416s	look for what hero power dragon bane
9418s	hero power is six quick shot hero power
9421s	is five more so he'd have 11.
9424s	but an additional spell off the top
9426s	could have very well just been straight
9427s	up lethal with everything going face on
9429s	the following turn if he held it all in
9430s	hand
9436s	this does give him another spell
9440s	potentially with the draw from the
9441s	treasure guard
9443s	i don't think that was guaranteed so i
9444s	don't know if that factored into the
9446s	decision-making but
9447s	yeah good point
9458s	oh that's the one
9463s	obviously we'll do a little bit less
9464s	damage than you would like because of
9466s	the crossroads watch post effect that's
9468s	always going to come into play here
9470s	but it is still likely the highest
9472s	damage individual draw in his deck
9474s	yeah so before damage
9478s	three damage now
9480s	yeah
9483s	so we're looking at what eleven
9494s	damage
9500s	it's got to be tavish
9505s	but tavish what what are the two secrets
9508s	even here
9509s	explosive and
9511s	freezing
9515s	i guess
9525s	i don't see any other options
9528s	there's no way to get the
9530s	honorable kill on dragon bean shot in a
9533s	reasonable fashion
9541s	[Music]
9545s	dragon bane shot but does that
9547s	do anything like is that progress does
9550s	this look like progress tj it doesn't
9551s	seem like progress uh
9553s	it takes one power off the board
9556s	that's fair okay
9569s	that didn't quite hit the mark
9577s	i mean it did take one power off the
9578s	board i don't think it really mattered
9579s	in the end though um
9581s	yeah he buffed by four and killed a five
9583s	attack minion while being immune for the
9584s	attack so yeah
9586s	yeah maybe
9588s	uh he thinks
9590s	because he made that
9591s	the emote that piercing shot in that
9593s	situation would have been better because
9594s	that's the lowest health the minions
9596s	ever going to be i don't know i think he
9598s	also may have been planets obviously he
9600s	has to always do the dragon ball shot
9601s	first to get the refresh on the dragon
9603s	bane shot but i think he may have also
9604s	been planning to piercing shot
9606s	afterwards but miscalculated how much
9608s	damage that was doing because he didn't
9609s	account for the buffs maybe that's also
9611s	another possibility which is why he was
9613s	very indecisive about using the piercing
9615s	shot at the last moment though
9631s	now piercing shot is gonna do max two
9634s	oh
9637s	enough that is enough
9639s	yep just needs to make sure that
9641s	piercing shot comes out first i actually
9643s	think he could have cast one uh dragon
9645s	paint shot
9646s	two first it would still happen up
9649s	because of the candle shot but whatever
9651s	oh and it could have drawn an acorn
9654s	i wish this was the out actually and we
9656s	had to think of this where he didn't
9658s	quite have enough damage and he had to
9660s	kill a minion first to get a higher
9662s	damage piercing shot target that would
9664s	have been cool
9665s	not gonna lie i don't think i would have
9666s	thought of that yeah
9669s	i would have thought of it like tomorrow
9676s	all right well very close but still gets
9678s	the job done uh for jwc that was a
9682s	pretty well played given the
9683s	circumstances you know obviously burro
9686s	had
9688s	a pretty uh expensive and awkward hand
9691s	um to start things off but
9694s	uh went for pressure at the right times
9696s	and
9697s	just wasn't quite enough to get the job
9700s	done was three two damage off lethal uh
9702s	there towards the end yeah and that
9705s	whole like as soon as crossroads watch
9707s	post entered play the game was just
9708s	incredibly weird right and who knows
9710s	like that's that situation is so hard to
9713s	resolve for ours for the players for
9714s	everyone watching like honestly we could
9716s	go back and it'll probably take us half
9718s	an hour to an hour of breaking down that
9720s	game to decide like what optimal lines
9722s	were on every single turn uh jwc in the
9725s	end just finding just enough to revert
9727s	to reserve damage but i mean i sound
9730s	like a broken record at this point but
9731s	i'm gonna go back to it it's the lack of
9734s	arbor up right like that's what makes
9736s	any of these three or four turn
9738s	strategies that jwc set up there through
9740s	the crossroads watch post
9742s	none of those are possible if your
9744s	opponent just plays arbor up in their
9746s	deck right because they are just going
9747s	to draw it at some point and absolutely
9749s	murder you in that position yeah
9752s	especially with all the discover effects
9754s	that exist now
9756s	um or discover slash dredge
9758s	uh whatever you want to call it
9760s	um
9762s	tutor effects
9763s	there you go
9765s	use a classic card game term
9768s	um but yeah i i do still think that
9772s	maybe not expected outcome but the
9774s	favorite for jwc there now warrior and
9777s	druid
9779s	left remaining
9781s	i feel like the
9783s	[Music]
9786s	the druid is probably the weak point in
9788s	this instance
9790s	you would expect so yeah i think the
9791s	druid is the deck that is being very
9793s	specifically targeted by this lineup uh
9796s	from borrow
9797s	uh the warrior of course is a control
9799s	warrior which you would expect to be
9800s	banned in this series we didn't really
9802s	cover it at the beginning the reason why
9803s	the control warrior has survived is that
9805s	there is a snowfall guardian shaman in
9809s	uh in jwc's lineup which i think quite
9811s	rightly burrow has taken the opportunity
9814s	to ban out instead because all his decks
9816s	are essentially 100 board-based right so
9819s	as soon as one snowfall guardian lands
9822s	and there's one macor in hand or a
9823s	second guardian he's going to be in
9825s	massive trouble trying to get any damage
9826s	to go face
9829s	yep
9830s	so really has to corner the druid uh if
9834s	we look at how these uh these matchups
9836s	pan out
9838s	and with a loss to start things off
9841s	um
9842s	could be a little bit of an uphill climb
9843s	for him but we shall see pearl's going
9845s	to move over to
9846s	uh mick mage uh no amulet in the mech
9849s	mage
9851s	just good old-fashioned mech stuff
9855s	next stuff indeed there is however the
9857s	crossroads watch post thrown in here as
9859s	well there's also a varden tossed in on
9861s	top of everything else as well kind of
9862s	taking the spot of the some of those
9865s	last tech card options there is iron
9867s	deep frog in there as well which is
9868s	another sign that this is kind of
9870s	aggressively being tweaked towards druid
9871s	specifically uh but outside of that it
9874s	is the usual stuff that we are used to
9875s	seeing it looks like jwc is gonna run
9878s	out uh with this druid as early as
9880s	possible celestial alignment version
9882s	this time around instead of the straight
9884s	up ramp that we've been seeing
9885s	previously no doomsayers but we do see a
9888s	spammy arcanist thrown in there as well
9891s	which could be very very useful in this
9893s	matchup there are natural uh one health
9896s	two health three health break points all
9898s	across the uh mech mage going all the
9900s	way up to four in some places as well so
9902s	uh particularly on a crossroads watch
9905s	post turn right the ability to
9907s	clear boards without casting spells can
9910s	be incredibly useful in this kind of
9911s	situation
9913s	yeah every time i try and
9915s	cut spammy arcanist from any form of ram
9917s	druid i always
9919s	immediately find a situation where
9922s	spammy arcanist would have just been the
9923s	nuts
9926s	just how it goes like the car
9929s	yeah yeah very good
9936s	nourishing the opener
9940s	does just toss it away though looking
9941s	for some of those early game cards that
9943s	he's thrown in for these kind of
9944s	match-ups exactly uh whereas on baro's
9947s	side there is no seafloor gateway in
9950s	this opening hand there's also none of
9951s	the super aggressive two drops
9954s	um just playing like hot bucket on two
9956s	and just hitting your opponent with a
9957s	blood fender raptor a few times can be
9958s	very very powerful in the druid matchup
9960s	sea scout operator is also a lot of
9963s	power that you can get on board early uh
9964s	especially on coin so you could consider
9967s	keeping that uh but a neutron and
9969s	sweeper kind of missing their target in
9972s	this matchup i would say you don't care
9973s	about the sweeper value early on and you
9975s	don't really care too much about
9977s	annoyatron you just rather have as much
9979s	damage in play as quickly as possible i
9981s	think
9983s	yep full mouth i respect it
9987s	that's better
9988s	oh yeah that's much better
9993s	the annoyatron back makes things
9995s	quite interesting
10005s	if you land the click clock above
10007s	exactly on the automaton then heck yeah
10009s	you're in business but you really do not
10012s	want a naked automaton on board i don't
10014s	think right a three health naked
10016s	automaton that can just get drew to the
10018s	reef dealt with yeah
10020s	so i think baro kind of sacrificing the
10022s	trog even a little bit here
10024s	into the gods of druid of the reef which
10026s	i'm okay with
10029s	yeah it's a good check for it because
10031s	jwc
10032s	i mean obviously doesn't have to kill it
10035s	if you're druid of the exists but
10039s	makes his life significantly easier over
10041s	the next few turns since he's gonna have
10043s	to be playing spells
10044s	um
10046s	could opt to just
10047s	like hero power it
10050s	and uh the next turn if the automaton
10053s	does come down could your power the trog
10055s	again and then drew to the reef
10057s	also has the option to just wait for
10059s	oracle balloon turn
10061s	if he just has a good hero power and
10063s	then go oracle balloon plus drew to the
10065s	reef
10067s	options
10069s	i think if automaton is coming down it's
10070s	coming down alongside click clocker
10073s	probably in that order
10081s	i think burrow is will be smart enough
10083s	here to work out the hero power druid of
10085s	the reef is just absolutely terrifying
10087s	response to what he's doing if he
10088s	doesn't coin out the click locker
10090s	yep
10094s	uh mothership probably the least
10097s	favorite one from burroughs perspective
10098s	to hit with the buff
10101s	game i think will largely be decided by
10103s	the point that that can come into play i
10105s	think you'd rather have had a 4-3 trench
10107s	surveyor
10110s	debate on the anoitron i suppose
10113s	this is much pressure as early as
10115s	possible
10116s	you know
10121s	the seed law be its own
10126s	and so the trogg survives
10130s	for now it's only one damage
10139s	not bad not bad not bad
10144s	a lot of dimage
10147s	potential going on
10149s	fits the curve quite well could go
10150s	double two next turn
10154s	unless he wants to hit something
10155s	specific with the trencher here but i
10157s	just
10158s	never gonna be as as much pressure as
10160s	this so
10162s	yeah i like it too
10164s	i think there's also a moment of pause
10166s	there where you're just wondering like
10167s	am i ever playing a neutron to just
10169s	protect this trog from a hero power but
10171s	i think that's probably nonsense it's
10172s	just such a weak turn overall in
10174s	comparison to playing six extra damage
10177s	on board
10178s	yeah
10181s	i wonder
10193s	well this isn't a good situation at all
10203s	see the problem nicely illustrated by
10205s	that 20 mana naga giant in hand for jwc
10209s	just no spells have been cast in the
10211s	early game no wild growth which means
10213s	nowhere close to a nourish no fast
10215s	innovate starts nothing of the like
10218s	really been forced into being 100
10220s	reactive by this early trog into
10223s	automaton curve
10227s	burrow's face like he's so far ahead in
10230s	this game but he just looks constantly
10232s	in pain with the way the game is going
10234s	and i'm not sure what he's so concerned
10235s	about
10238s	decisions
10241s	you know
10243s	yeah
10247s	really
10252s	all right i understand his pain
10257s	i'm not sure i would have done this i
10258s	mean this kind of signals the intention
10260s	to then pick up the sunken sweeper of
10262s	the trench surveyor on the following
10263s	turn which is not necessarily something
10266s	that i think you're super interested in
10268s	doing because playing another spider
10270s	spider tank even though like that card
10272s	is insane in a vacuum don't get me wrong
10274s	it's still slow to develop pressure in
10277s	terms of other things which could be on
10279s	the bottom of your deck that you might
10280s	end up picking instead right
10282s	um
10283s	so floating one mana there to play one
10286s	less power on board because you would
10287s	have gone surveyor in a neutron
10289s	otherwise
10290s	uh not entirely sure if i agree
10296s	that's what that face was i'm really
10298s	gonna play a sweeper here
10302s	yeah i think it was
10307s	i mean
10309s	jwc said they're like you want to see
10310s	what an actual painful hand looks like
10313s	look at this
10315s	this is
10316s	gross what are you wincing about let's
10318s	swap hands i'll play yours
10322s	reflect in the moon
10324s	it's gonna die before he even gets to
10326s	play a real card
10330s	wow even hero powering down the two one
10333s	over the trog as well
10336s	really trying to influence those trades
10338s	i suppose
10339s	yep
10342s	i mean
10344s	i struggle to think of a better draw in
10346s	the deck than that this time
10350s	just stats
10353s	and
10361s	keywords and earn a lot of keyword
10363s	points this turn
10367s	but i suppose
10369s	already you've seen a very miserable
10371s	slow hand so you are thinking about
10374s	innovate
10375s	scale at this point even though that is
10376s	a very specific two-card combo
10379s	but even then i think because you don't
10381s	cost yourself any health on your
10382s	existing minions trading into this i
10384s	think this makes a lot of sense i also
10386s	like reserving the full health on your
10388s	win fury minion here
10389s	and you now have what two four six eight
10392s	nine ten you have ten whelps worth of
10394s	minions on board going into a potential
10397s	innovate scale from your opponent so yep
10399s	yep all looks great to me
10411s	i can see
10413s	and there it is
10415s	what a difficult game
10417s	oh god
10420s	[Music]
10424s	okay there we go looks a little bit more
10426s	relaxed with the way the game's gone now
10428s	fair enough yeah fair enough i spent all
10430s	this time thinking through those
10431s	decisions and all i had to do was place
10434s	a measly amount of stats on board and i
10437s	won
10438s	um that just happened that was a pretty
10440s	good opening i had uh trog automaton
10444s	uh you know with cheap mix to follow it
10446s	up
10447s	and
10448s	yeah a lot of times that's all it takes
10453s	yeah but that ini off the top i think
10455s	just being able to deal with the oracle
10458s	while losing essentially zero pressure i
10460s	think gaining net pressure in the
10461s	meantime as well you know what i will
10463s	say like you know we're poking fun at
10465s	the kind of the agony that burrows in
10467s	from a position that we can see was very
10469s	easy obviously burrow can't see the hand
10471s	on the other side he knows just
10473s	basically from how weak the turns have
10475s	been in the early game the hand isn't
10476s	insane from the druid on the other side
10478s	but he still has to plan to beat various
10480s	things from his perspective that game
10482s	looks a lot more difficult than us who
10484s	are looking at 60 mana's worth of stuff
10486s	in in drew its hand and only five mana
10488s	to spend it on you know so
10490s	it's certainly he
10492s	uh was thinking through his turns and
10494s	coming up with consistent plans i don't
10496s	necessarily agree with the um with the
10499s	sweeper being played in that position
10500s	which is the one point i would maybe
10502s	disagree with but otherwise i think he
10504s	had his plans laid out very nicely right
10506s	how to beat the break points of the
10509s	druid of the reef in the early game
10510s	sequencing with the trog and the click
10512s	locker and the automaton and then from
10514s	that point on just building pressure as
10515s	effectively as he saw it um i might have
10518s	a different way of going about it but he
10520s	certainly had a a plan that he stuck to
10523s	i i do think there was a spammy clear if
10526s	he doesn't play sweeper if he goes
10527s	double two there
10529s	oh is that what it was okay if that's
10531s	the case then good catch and that was
10533s	that would have been going into the five
10534s	banner turn as well right
10536s	yeah because he plays um
10539s	um a two health three health
10542s	and he had a one so the the click
10544s	clocker still had divine shield right
10545s	but there was the one health truck on
10547s	board
10548s	i believe so yeah but that would have
10550s	been one and two
10552s	and with what he did there was no bridge
10555s	between the three and the four and the
10557s	anoyatron would have ended up being the
10558s	bridge between the three and the four
10560s	what have been done
10561s	you are exactly right that's 100 why he
10564s	did it i apologize
10572s	i'm mistaken and we both look stupid but
10574s	i'm pretty sure
10575s	that sounds right to me
10577s	that was why he was so
10579s	deliberate about that turn
10581s	yeah very very very good point
10584s	um
10585s	all right going back to the druid here
10589s	for burro
10592s	wow aquatic forum battle guard and watch
10595s	post
10599s	uh being the keeps
10602s	the seed law be its own treasure
10606s	this
10607s	jdbc just has the curve hand
10612s	yeah i mean who's really playing the
10613s	aggro druid here am i right
10615s	yeah
10618s	seems to find something on curve for the
10620s	amalgam
10621s	good to go
10624s	are you desperate enough for a one drop
10626s	here to go fishing are you just going to
10627s	play the two two looks like he's just
10628s	gonna play the two two okay yeah
10636s	it really is he's just
10639s	he's just curving just curving out i
10642s	mean uh ailes of eight amalgam like
10645s	genuinely are you interested
10647s	yeah
10648s	yeah i'm down i'm 100 down
10652s	just full control of the board
10659s	squirrel
10663s	it's probably gotta be scorpion
10668s	given the deck you know uh-huh
10672s	but
10674s	oh okay well that's the opposite of what
10676s	i thought would happen
10680s	yeah i definitely agree with this part
10681s	of the play
10683s	and then presumably
10686s	his plan now is curving out he's just
10688s	going to slam oracle on board next turn
10690s	so then he just took the highest value
10691s	cards i mean arguably you can have the
10694s	debate of which is the highest value
10695s	card to duplicate off oracle between the
10697s	pack mule and the squirrel but in terms
10699s	of immediately winning board which is
10701s	what he's trying to do with the start
10702s	he's got the pack be all is more value
10705s	on turn four than the squirrel will be
10706s	immediately
10708s	yeah squirrel could actually uh
10710s	potentially make things awkward if you
10711s	you know the turn you want to like scale
10714s	of a nixia like a squirrel pops out
10717s	um
10719s	so
10719s	it could work
10721s	or you know onyxia whatever it could
10723s	work against him in some in some cases
10729s	uh
10730s	now that i you explain that to me
10733s	pac-mule does make sense given just what
10735s	he's going to be doing on curves
10749s	[Laughter]
10753s	which deck this is given the uh the curb
10756s	so far
10762s	so oracle no attacks
10768s	does attacking into the one five with
10769s	your two two ever significantly increase
10771s	the chances that your oracle gets killed
10774s	maybe it doesn't actually maybe it's
10776s	fine to just take the pokes into the one
10778s	five while you can
10782s	i wonder
10785s	yeah i think it is right there's still
10786s	not a world that i can think of where
10788s	your 2-4 dies in that spot right
10791s	you've seen one so the soil be used for
10793s	2-2 already
10796s	yeah but do you want to accelerate the
10798s	board like that that's a good question
10800s	yeah that's very fair
10804s	or yeah one bob okay all right
10806s	compromise fine
10813s	the reason why i'm interested in dealing
10815s	with the one five is that i don't want
10817s	the game to move towards crossroad watch
10820s	post while you're still sending attacks
10822s	into a one five right i want to be
10823s	sending attacks into other minions and
10825s	clearing them off the board before watch
10827s	post and other things can come down
10829s	and we are fast approaching that point
10848s	hello
10850s	[Music]
10855s	playing the second battle guard this
10856s	does not reapply discount they both just
10858s	say the first minion you played each
10860s	turn
10862s	the first minion he played was still the
10863s	anoitron no matter how many battleguards
10865s	you have in play
10870s	oh
10873s	wait
10875s	no oh
10877s	gales is still pretty good right nails
10879s	are still pretty good yeah it's still
10881s	pretty good
10887s	what is happening
10891s	so you double trade the neurotron and
10893s	scales trade the uh
10896s	oracle
10897s	i guess you maybe want to uh
10899s	you have double scales right oh no this
10901s	is dredge not uh moonlit guidance right
10903s	i was thinking yes
10904s	yeah yeah yeah
10906s	wrong deck buddy yeah quite right
10919s	now this
10920s	this is a painful game
10925s	this is pod racing
10931s	i love how he's won the board so
10932s	definitively that spammy arcanist is now
10934s	just the worst guardian yeah
10937s	when he drew it i was like oh yeah it's
10939s	insane now he's just gonna have bored
10940s	forever i'm like wait he he already has
10942s	bored forever like
10944s	yup
10945s	he wants to draw all of those other one
10947s	and two drops in his deck for his oracle
10949s	oh wait
10965s	relatively good response here two
10967s	massive value trades on the battle
10968s	guards going in and now that annoyer
10970s	tron basically deals with the rest of
10972s	the board single-handedly
10990s	there's no way to preserve your own
10991s	oracle though yeah there is you don't
10993s	yeah there is if you go you just double
10995s	trade first yeah and only goes off yeah
10997s	or twice
10999s	yeah
11000s	agree with this they could go up next
11002s	turn and on six mana you can also fit in
11004s	a hero power as well
11006s	though
11008s	just good and bros in in the game of uh
11011s	playing off the top
11012s	yeah
11014s	not necessarily where he wants to be
11016s	and now jwc is
11020s	dexter's good
11023s	moon the guidance is probably the
11024s	perfect card to pick up in the scenario
11026s	for post guf
11029s	yeah weirdly i like this for a number of
11031s	reasons firstly like the spammy was just
11033s	the best play on board which you know i
11034s	think jwc quite clearly has done the
11037s	best play he can make on board all game
11039s	until he's run out of the ability to do
11041s	that um and then also weirdly like even
11044s	though guff says five on it it's
11046s	almost played on curve on six rather
11048s	than on five right because that ability
11050s	to be able to hear a power straight away
11052s	afterwards is so so powerful as i expect
11055s	him to do here
11064s	during the trade if you trade you give
11066s	your opponent access to
11068s	two more cards next term potentially as
11070s	opposed to just one more card which you
11072s	know sheer quantity of cards druid can
11075s	play in a turn is actually a very
11077s	uh acceptable metric for how strong
11079s	their turns are going to be right
11081s	yep
11084s	yep quite happily takes it
11086s	ah sorry four more cards
11094s	down the alarm
11099s	i already did this one's a styling alarm
11101s	we don't want an intruder
11110s	is it three minions or is it watch post
11112s	one minion
11114s	yeah that's a
11116s	tough situation what do you expect from
11118s	your opponent in this position
11122s	i think getting the watch post down now
11125s	and then being able to follow that up
11126s	with a bunch of minions has a lot of
11128s	value
11129s	i agree
11132s	and i think if you're playing one minion
11133s	that one minion is trog even though this
11135s	uh looks illegal because it's floating
11138s	manner i do think that this is the way
11140s	to go about it because obviously
11142s	if spells are being cast that trog very
11145s	rapidly
11146s	multiplies into multiple minions which
11148s	then means if there are subsequent
11149s	spells then you are getting your
11151s	much-needed big aggressive board that
11153s	you've been looking for this entire game
11155s	yeah
11157s	pass well ramp pass i suppose
11162s	there we go nicely done
11164s	actually a good pick up because everyone
11166s	makes
11170s	the pies games
11182s	yeah this time this time i am fully on
11185s	board
11186s	with burroughs agony
11191s	the mules have four health right yes
11193s	they do so they only require four whelps
11196s	to trade into which means the onyxia
11198s	will still be able to crash into the
11199s	watch post and still be immune
11202s	massive
11206s	[Music]
11210s	see right when my alarm sounded
11212s	yep perfection
11217s	four trades into the taunts
11219s	yeah one trade into the six eight two
11221s	more trades into the trog
11223s	get out of my game
11228s	nice breakdown
11233s	giant still costs 18.
11237s	12 mana
11242s	ah what a deck
11249s	it's two earthen scales that's it that's
11252s	what he's cast yep
11266s	cool turn
11271s	all right personal challenge now you're
11273s	so far ahead in this game play that naga
11275s	giant for 18 at some point in this game
11281s	that's good
11295s	i can see
11296s	yeah that sounds about right
11301s	all right well
11303s	that was the deck that burro really
11305s	needed to beat
11307s	multiple times
11309s	and uh it just gets across
11312s	first try so now it's down to the
11314s	warrior
11315s	for jwc
11317s	and a couple of tough ones uh for boro
11320s	to get over not look looking like a
11322s	pretty dire situation at the moment
11325s	yeah and this is where you know bad
11327s	matchups in terms of lineup can really
11328s	be very telling because
11331s	um burrow has appeared with his quad
11333s	aggro lineup against a lineup that
11335s	features both shaman and control warrior
11337s	and then with your ability to only ban
11339s	one of those yeah you're hitting target
11341s	druid right and you're saying great i've
11343s	targeted druid i have a druid in my
11344s	opponent's lineup
11346s	um but you know it's not straight up
11348s	hard target where you have like 80 90
11350s	matchups against druid with every deck
11352s	because what really does have those kind
11353s	of match-ups and what you have is you
11356s	know a series where you would expect
11358s	reasonably to go 2-1 or 3-0 against a
11361s	druid and if your opponent has a weaker
11363s	lineup against you you can afford to go
11365s	2-1 against a druid right you can very
11367s	rarely afford to go 1-1 against the deck
11369s	that you're targeting very aggressively
11371s	but in this case he's now in such a
11372s	miserable position because he's had to
11374s	ban shaman so the remaining deck for jwc
11376s	now is control warrior which
11378s	theoretically has an insane match up
11381s	against his lineup certainly against the
11383s	demon hunter maybe the druid can get
11385s	enough repeated gas
11387s	[Music]
11388s	quiet tj uh maybe the druid can get
11391s	enough gas with uh composting and so on
11393s	over and over again to be able to get
11394s	there but this demon hunter it's not a
11397s	good matchup against the control warrior
11404s	yeah you're right we've just seen uh
11407s	it's skewed the other way on stream thus
11410s	far
11411s	um but every other point of data
11414s	tells us that uh
11417s	it is a big struggle
11419s	for demon hunter
11420s	but
11421s	we shall see
11422s	pearl's gotta make some
11426s	demi miracles happen in order to
11429s	get the dub in this series
11432s	obviously we're we're
11434s	watching a 5-0 versus 5-0 match so this
11437s	is not any type of elimination or
11440s	winning in or what have you
11442s	um if bro
11444s	were to lose this series would still
11445s	have
11446s	very many chances of making the top six
11449s	team just have to win out
11450s	um and even then may only need to win
11453s	one more put himself in a great spot by
11454s	starting 5.0 but this series is
11458s	looking like
11459s	it's
11459s	gonna go jwc's way
11462s	from uh from our standpoint
11464s	we'll see demon hunter a lot of
11466s	players say that it's the strongest deck
11468s	in the game for a reason and uh maybe
11471s	we'll get to see that reason
11473s	in this game versus jwc's warrior
11476s	yeah certainly a deck that can win any
11479s	game right we've seen the way it can run
11482s	away with it like it is the ultimate
11484s	threat a threat to check deck as i
11486s	referred to it earlier like it has to do
11488s	very little and if you don't have the
11490s	answer for it we'll run away with the
11492s	game and that is true even against
11493s	control warrior uh we saw it before
11496s	where you know battle worn vanguard
11497s	which sometimes is the single worst card
11500s	in the match up because you make a board
11502s	of one two two and six one ones over the
11504s	course of the game and then ranker comes
11506s	down and absolutely destroys you
11508s	but if you play it and they don't have
11510s	an answer for it and you push two damage
11512s	and then you push four damage and then
11513s	you push six damage with that one
11515s	individual card
11517s	then that can be a route to victory for
11518s	you especially with so many of these
11520s	control warriors this one included going
11522s	down to a single copy of rancor in the
11524s	deck which you know is the number one
11526s	card you want to have to deal with a lot
11528s	of these board states outside of
11530s	vanguard uh obviously the the minions
11532s	get bigger pufferfist is three health
11534s	man crick and mancrac's wife obviously
11537s	significantly bigger minions ladies then
11539s	oh as well is right up there so i can
11540s	understand why ranker isn't considered
11542s	good enough it's a very similar theory
11545s	to how we've been talking about uh
11547s	candleshot for example in the hunter
11549s	being used to bridge the gap between the
11551s	two and three health minions to make
11552s	dragon bait shot work it's very similar
11554s	logic to why ranker isn't super
11557s	impactful these days but in this one
11559s	particular match up i do think just
11562s	shutting down battle war vanguard is
11564s	incredibly powerful and there it is tj
11568s	ask and you shall receive
11576s	i didn't ask
11578s	oh oh my bad was that me talking sorry i
11581s	i i struggled to tell the difference
11583s	we're so similar tj that i struggle to
11585s	tell the difference between us sometimes
11588s	yeah we're basically like the same
11589s	person yeah
11591s	yeah
11592s	our personality is just so in line
11595s	i mean honestly though
11597s	like broadcast persona aside in terms of
11600s	the actual casters in real life i think
11602s	we genuinely do have the two most yeah i
11605s	would say so yeah
11607s	i'll broadcast it may appear like we're
11609s	polar opposites but um
11612s	if you look at our
11614s	what we find enjoyment in in our
11615s	lifestyles yes and what we hate
11619s	yes same same thing same person
11621s	very true
11630s	just
11631s	jams it on curve
11634s	there is an answer if jwc wants it
11637s	i think this is a good read from burrow
11638s	i think this is a mulligan read because
11640s	the uh the keep here was that from the
11642s	depths on the left-hand side of the hand
11645s	i think burroughs saying well if you're
11646s	going to keep that card and you're going
11647s	to play it i'm going to punish you for
11648s	it with a real real big minion
11652s	by which i mean a 4-4
11660s	okay he's following the curve now as
11661s	well
11662s	with the treasure god
11668s	pankard's done its job
11672s	health it's too damaged
11675s	this now makes sense though right
11676s	because your opponent did go coin three
11678s	on the previous turn because your
11680s	opponent went coin three you can now go
11682s	two three into drekthar and coin brawl
11686s	is no longer an availability they'd have
11687s	to have a two card shield shatter combo
11690s	to be able to deal with this yeah i like
11693s	it makes a lot of sense
11694s	yep
11701s	but this is it right i mean this this
11702s	one i'm absolutely not gonna rinse
11704s	burrow forward looking stressed over
11706s	because this is a potential series
11708s	defining decision here as to whether you
11711s	take the risk because this is betting
11712s	the series on no
11714s	two card shield chatter combination
11716s	after your opponent has double dredged
11718s	in the early game
11719s	which is a really tough position to be
11721s	able to navigate because i think if you
11723s	make this push with drakthar and it gets
11725s	cleared
11726s	you've played your game at that point
11728s	right like that's it
11730s	and it looks like burrow is going to
11733s	go with the soft push you can see he's
11735s	not 100 happy about it but what this
11737s	does is present a board that he thinks
11740s	his opponent will be forced to clear and
11741s	then if that clear happens he gets to
11743s	play director the turn after this is
11745s	hedging around that two card clear
11748s	yep
11753s	hey would you look at that two card
11754s	clear
11756s	it's got a nessie to fall out
11759s	yeah
11760s	yeah see that's it let's see
11762s	who am i
11765s	it's it's it's nelly
11769s	i've said nessie every time because
11771s	nelly the colossal doesn't look like
11773s	messi said goodbye to the circus
11777s	doesn't it look like messi no
11779s	yeah i mean i think that is the general
11781s	idea you've seen nessie irl have me oh
11784s	100 yeah so it's a rite of passage every
11787s	british person at the age of 12 it's
11790s	kind of like the the mark of going into
11792s	adolescence is you have to take a
11793s	pilgrimage to uh to loch ness and then
11796s	take a really really grainy obscured
11798s	picture of the lost loch ness monster
11800s	and post it online it's just it's just a
11802s	thing we do
11805s	i honestly
11807s	like it wouldn't even surprise me if
11809s	that was true
11812s	what do you mean it is true
11817s	let's it wouldn't surprise me if that
11818s	wasn't true
11822s	i'm just not very easily surprised let's
11823s	just put it that way
11841s	oh as lorinda has just pointed out for
11843s	us they are uh canon related according
11845s	to the flavor text on the uh the
11847s	hearthstone card
11849s	ah okay here we go
11852s	thank you
11854s	i knew if we kept him around long enough
11855s	he would eventually be useful
11862s	that's how usefulness works
11871s	full control
11873s	of the board for jwc
11877s	i was about to say at least for the time
11879s	being but yeah it's really not going
11881s	anywhere
11884s	the
11885s	load is there from the ship
11887s	okay i mean i was gonna say if this is
11889s	predation off the top
11892s	but felbarage is also fairly close
11895s	probably still not good enough to get
11897s	the job done but yes you are right the
11898s	uh the reload on the ship is gonna be an
11901s	enormous problem no matter what you do
11903s	here yeah oh multi-strike is actually
11905s	quite good here with the uh glaives can
11907s	allow burrow to push 10.
11910s	um and even clear the board with a vel
11912s	barrage
11914s	taking off the nelly though ends up
11917s	being a pretty decent turn obviously
11920s	not where bro would want to be but gets
11921s	to push a significant amount of damage
11923s	gets to take things off the board
11932s	not the best draw either
11934s	no
11936s	fred picked up as a premium here though
11938s	because obviously he knows the bottom of
11939s	his deck uh he knows at least one card
11942s	on the bottom his deck and he knows that
11943s	it's all super cheap at this point so no
11945s	surprise that the dredge pirate was
11946s	picked up as a priority
11951s	gotta be a nixon drake right i would
11953s	imagine yeah
11955s	yeah unless you think that a pirate's
11957s	gonna survive
11961s	just get more value
11964s	oh with the amalgam you mean with the
11966s	amalgam yeah
11971s	i wonder
11981s	if he's thinking of if it's even worth
11983s	it to put these pirates on the board i
11984s	mean it puts stuff in the way which
11990s	seems like it has merit
11991s	yeah i mean i think stats on board it's
11994s	very similar to like the mask of c'thun
11995s	dynamic against mage where uh ladies
11998s	atheno fel barrage all of these things
12000s	coincidentally i wasn't even like
12002s	looking up r2 of the cards in your
12004s	opponent's hand right now but those kind
12006s	of effects you just soak up damage that
12008s	doesn't go face by putting those kind of
12010s	things in play oh
12012s	no
12013s	that is the exact draw for burro to give
12017s	himself an opportunity in this game
12018s	because now
12020s	instead of just having to waste the lady
12022s	on dealing with the board he can deal
12024s	with the board with the rush minions
12025s	instead and then have that juicy synergy
12029s	of ladies then oh going face with all
12031s	the attacks and refreshing the hero
12033s	power for extra damage from curtras that
12035s	is an insane draw
12038s	it's just favored
12039s	how is this gonna happen again tj it's
12041s	actually just favored
12045s	i'm glad you finally seen the light
12050s	all right nixon drake will be coming off
12052s	the top here
12055s	i've already lost track of how many
12057s	times collectively we've made that
12058s	mistake by the way already in the first
12060s	masters tour
12062s	of oh that's a good draw
12064s	yeah like yes we knew that was going to
12067s	be the draw because it has been dredged
12069s	[Laughter]
12071s	there is zero necessary surprise in your
12074s	voice when you see that card come off
12075s	the top
12079s	oh come on
12081s	you can't just draw like this
12083s	i won't allow it
12088s	it just seems like it's a good draw
12091s	because the deck is favored
12093s	all i see okay it's like a good draw
12095s	that's how it works
12098s	it even correct to use it now
12103s	i think it still is right
12112s	need for greed
12114s	nah fury you're gonna kill him next turn
12124s	in what world do you not kill them next
12125s	turn i'm trying to work out i'm trying
12128s	to work out what you do with the rest of
12129s	your turn this turn because obviously
12131s	you could play spectral sight right now
12133s	and immediately draw the card that you
12136s	you've put on top of your deck which is
12138s	what he's going to do
12139s	um but by doing that even if it's fury
12141s	okay the next card was uh the sphere
12143s	which is pretty great but by doing that
12145s	with fury specifically you gave yourself
12147s	no relevant way to spend any additional
12149s	mana on that turn right because playing
12150s	the fury playing the hero power none of
12152s	that actually did anything going into
12155s	the 4-5 taunt
12163s	i mean
12166s	that gets played
12168s	yeah
12171s	all right how much we looking at here
12175s	8 10 14 16
12179s	3 hero powers 22.
12183s	i think that's lethal
12185s	wait
12187s	fell barrage
12189s	eight fury seven
12195s	yeah it is i think it's exactly 22 for
12198s	exactly nine man
12201s	isn't it more than 22. is it more than
12204s	22
12208s	we'll see
12212s	it's gonna be 12 two more going in and
12214s	then another hero power is 14 yep
12217s	yep 22. yep you're right you're right
12219s	you're right
12220s	and there it is exactly
12224s	nicely done
12226s	uh but that was the expected outcome uh
12228s	for that
12229s	[Laughter]
12231s	so
12233s	we all knew we were going to a game five
12235s	it's just a matter of playing it out
12241s	livid uh yeah so now we have the druid
12244s	left to go
12245s	um which is a matchup is a little bit
12247s	more of an x factor i don't necessarily
12249s	know what the data suggests on it
12251s	exactly particularly with this build
12253s	which even in terms of aggressive druid
12255s	decks is not the build that i'm used to
12257s	seeing uh going up against control
12259s	warrior um but however there is the
12263s	composting in there which we would of
12265s	course expect there's oracle of balloon
12266s	which allows the ability to make
12267s	multiple boards over the course of the
12269s	game there's double crossroads watch
12270s	post which can be very disruptive
12272s	against warrior but perhaps less than
12274s	you would think
12275s	because similar to what the opposing
12278s	celestial druid did
12280s	uh control warrior does have a good
12282s	chunk of minions that they can start
12283s	throwing out there with uh nyxian
12286s	drake's nelly amalgam so on all of those
12289s	things can be made super cheap um by the
12292s	the dredge cards which can allow them to
12294s	fight for board quite aggressively just
12295s	with minions um so we'll see it's a
12297s	match up i'm certainly interested in
12298s	seeing pan out here after the obvious
12300s	like 90 win rate matchup for the demon
12302s	hunter where we both knew exactly what
12304s	was going to happen the entire time
12305s	because it's a foregone conclusion that
12307s	demon hunter wins that match up
12309s	nice to have a match up with a bit of
12310s	stakes
12311s	that's right
12313s	yeah i don't think we've seen a big a
12316s	big enough sample size of this type of
12318s	uh druid in order to make
12321s	any definitive claims
12323s	um
12324s	so far
12326s	probably down to the draws for bro it
12327s	seems quite lackluster
12329s	but obviously
12330s	he's been successful with it thus far
12333s	so
12334s	uh we can't count it out just because a
12337s	couple of bad games
12340s	cool teacher as well another one of
12341s	those minions that i threw into the mix
12344s	particularly with the nargling allowing
12347s	for some small removal spells to come
12349s	out without actually casting a spell to
12351s	trigger any of those effects that druid
12353s	is going with
12354s	a great surprise to see him holding on
12355s	to that
12364s	heavy play isn't even the worst pickup
12366s	with that mulligan as well because he
12367s	kept three of the best cards in his deck
12369s	i think for dealing with druid but it
12371s	left him in a position where he was
12373s	potentially doing nothing for the first
12374s	three turns so just finding a tradable
12377s	that he can potentially throw away on
12378s	term one is now quite valuable however
12381s	having now find from the depths he has
12383s	to consider
12384s	shield shatter synergy right if there's
12386s	any shield chatter anywhere near the
12388s	bottom of his deck just having that
12389s	heavy plate for the armor burst
12392s	might just be more needed and that is
12393s	exactly what he's decided
12399s	now all of a sudden this is the dredge
12400s	mechanic at work you're no longer just
12402s	thinking okay
12403s	well i would need to have a shield
12405s	chatter in my top three or four cards in
12407s	my deck to make it worth keeping this at
12409s	this point now it's top three or four
12411s	cards or bottom three cards of your deck
12414s	which makes it statistically you know
12416s	almost twice as probable
12418s	as uh that you're going to draw that in
12419s	time
12421s	what now
12425s	now depending on
12427s	where
12430s	okay
12431s	i was thinking maybe just tempo amalgam
12433s	but just going to go for the armor up
12435s	here keep take it slow
12438s	uh-oh
12440s	when saddle sounds the alarm
12443s	you know things have gone awry
12445s	i mean this is serious this is game five
12448s	of the series tj this is two five zero
12450s	players in game five of the series with
12453s	everything on the line this is when it's
12455s	really time for the pac-mule alarm
12458s	there it is as well there it is as well
12467s	outright zach's keep digging so much
12470s	armor again now if he is able to find
12472s	that shield chatter
12476s	and a ton more card draw now as well
12477s	with the flame
12479s	oh yeah
12483s	i always struggle with the control area
12485s	that i played um so far in testing for
12488s	this tournament
12489s	with the idea of blowing up a weapon in
12491s	a match up like this because obviously
12494s	brawl ranker shield chatter are
12496s	infinitely better than just killing one
12499s	minion per term with a weapon
12501s	but killing one minion per turn with a
12502s	weapon is still okay you know and it's
12504s	still like a sacrifice that you make to
12506s	draw cards in that position so i really
12508s	like struggle to reconcile when this was
12510s	right when this was wrong in my head as
12511s	i was testing this deck for the
12513s	tournament
12514s	yep
12527s	oh
12528s	that car honestly seems pretty good
12531s	it does you still get to draw a card off
12534s	the treasure guard
12536s	not taking too much damage
12538s	a lot of follow-up to this as well
12540s	are we always drawing a card over two
12543s	armor ah i guess not right
12546s	because you have the um
12549s	water flows next turn
12551s	right
12552s	i think you might even be looking at
12555s	overdraw territory if you start drawing
12557s	too many cards here
12569s	yeah jwc orders it for the two armor
12588s	unfortunate sharon gardens gets a lot of
12590s	immediate value here though
12592s	or at least the middle ground of
12593s	immediate value
12596s	cards on board better than cards in hand
12598s	better than cards in deck
12603s	could have been insane there but
12608s	it doesn't hit
12610s	um
12613s	i can't it's just so expensive like
12619s	only such a limited amount of things
12621s	that
12623s	bro can actually do on each of these
12625s	turns
12626s	and wants to do it all wants to build a
12628s	giant board and then drop a
12631s	crossroads watts post but
12634s	this has to settle for an annoying tron
12636s	i guess
12638s	nice
12640s	that'll get him
12642s	this is the turn jwc now has been
12644s	waiting for a little release on the
12646s	pressure valve means that he can
12648s	actually start to try and set up
12649s	something disgusting for himself none of
12652s	that is really it though is it
12658s	finley i don't know
12660s	yeah
12661s	and he takes spindly and just hope that
12663s	the rest of the cards that you didn't
12665s	see are significantly more impactful
12667s	than those ones
12674s	i didn't hate his hand as it was though
12677s	that's right
12679s	that's the only problem
12682s	okay
12684s	i thought that went fine
12686s	yeah
12689s	i think he's good
12694s	i'm out of 5'4
12696s	oh
12708s	in the cannons
12709s	yeah cannons is the default choice um
12713s	the only minor concern there was be
12716s	whether to take the massive armor gain
12718s	off a minion just in case a crossroads
12720s	watch post comes down right and then you
12721s	you just have to play your chatter you
12724s	don't have to play
12725s	an additional spell first
12727s	yeah i don't think that would be super
12729s	relevant because he already has uh six
12731s	armor stacked up right now worst case
12732s	scenario
12734s	yeah
12737s	okay there's a second guardians
12739s	starting to pile up the statistics here
12746s	big statistics
12749s	[Music]
12765s	i also really hate that it's human
12766s	nature to out of two cars or seemingly
12769s	human nature to out of two cards play
12770s	the one on the left if you like there's
12772s	nothing to decide the difference between
12774s	them because it just means the cursed
12776s	pack meal gets played every time
12779s	[Music]
12786s	a fortune flame now to draw three more
12788s	cards which have now been rediscounted
12790s	by the other depths
12797s	wait what am i talking about they're at
12798s	the bottom of the deck that's nonsense
12800s	why did i say that
12804s	i mean
12806s	in some worlds that makes sense it does
12808s	yeah
12810s	what now
12818s	i must
12825s	choose me pick me
12831s	you use man the cannons
12833s	dave his premium removals in hand right
12835s	now
12836s	probably shield slam just to get the
12837s	full clear here yep i like this
12840s	yep
12845s	works out quite nicely
12849s	i'm still a little worried however
12852s	there's a lot of waves of stuff still
12854s	coming right
12855s	there sure is
12860s	and they're not small waves either
12866s	they are big old waves crashing into the
12868s	shore
12869s	jwc is gonna need some kind of
12872s	ship or boat in order to navigate it if
12875s	only his deck could provide such a thing
12876s	tj
12883s	if only he'd done his 12 year old loch
12887s	ness pilgrimage
12902s	oh indeed
12906s	i forgot that was even in there
12917s	he could technically now bounce
12920s	the post pull a different minion out and
12922s	then aoe it down problem is the shield
12925s	on the anointron still makes that
12928s	almost entirely ineffective
12935s	you could
12937s	attack
12938s	yeah you're attacking into the shield
12939s	first but you're still then missing a
12941s	card drawer off the axe i'm saying like
12942s	you don't get that much value out of the
12944s	aoe is what i'm saying right because
12946s	you're still weapon attacking into the
12947s	shield you're not drawing a card off it
12949s	you're only really killing two minions
12950s	the drugs the trunks duplicating itself
12953s	depending of course on what the third
12954s	minion that bounces out of the hand ends
12956s	up being this could still be a decent
12958s	value but
12960s	i think it's the best he's got
12962s	yeah
12964s	oh
12973s	okay so he's gonna take the draw all
12974s	right
12976s	i know we're trying to be left up but
12977s	that's fine
12978s	yep
12979s	i respect him damage is free as well
12981s	brexit used uh frozen buckler instead of
12984s	the heavy plate so swinging into the
12985s	bigger minion there actually did zero
12987s	damage to him
12995s	let's find nelly now though but it is a
12997s	full cost nelly which is going to be
12999s	understated in comparison to what all
13001s	these buff minions from baro's hand are
13003s	able to do
13010s	you gotta be scrappy and that looks like
13012s	a good card and it's a 4-3
13025s	all work is like uh oh it's a 5 8
13029s	because it was in the hand for the uh
13032s	the original gardens as well
13043s	i just don't know how much he wants to
13045s	commit here
13047s	just saw big aoe
13050s	yo you've got to decide what your goal
13052s	is right is your goal to have enough
13055s	value in your hand to survive all the
13057s	removal from your opponent in which case
13060s	you parcel it out and play it one by one
13062s	and so on two or three minions at a time
13064s	or can you not do that and you have to
13067s	make a big board and just get to the
13068s	point where they just don't have a
13069s	removal in their hand right and at which
13071s	point you're just playing your entire
13073s	hand twice or three times or whatever
13075s	you have available and just hoping that
13076s	one of them sticks yeah
13086s	is a timely brawl
13090s	i wonder
13095s	jerry carpenter surviving would be
13099s	the absolute nuts
13101s	just get a card off it as well
13104s	so we're throwing the bran in there also
13107s	it could be
13111s	i think jwc is thinking about trading
13113s	first as a matter of order just in case
13117s	comes up with a better plan of this
13119s	okay
13123s	can i have the heavy plate back please
13124s	oh
13129s	you're kind of good
13131s	right
13132s	yeah
13133s	it works out quite nicely
13140s	and now the waves are just running out
13143s	on the other side
13144s	yep between a brawl and a nelly it looks
13148s	like jwc might just have enough
13150s	especially with the hero power and the
13152s	weapon now thrown on top of that as well
13154s	and yep in terms of all the faces that
13157s	burrow has made this this series that
13159s	one night right there i think was the
13160s	most appropriate
13165s	you can feel as we can that his grip on
13167s	this game and this series
13171s	is just loosening ever so slightly
13180s	he's got approximately
13183s	one more push
13185s	i guess oracle makes that two um
13193s	yeah even then he doesn't really have
13195s	much oracle synergy in his hand right
13198s	now
13199s	yeah that's true
13205s	um because oracle is play not summon he
13207s	doesn't actually he currently has zero
13210s	minions in his hands to take advantage
13212s	of the oracle effect yep
13226s	it's over
13232s	nixon drake hero power will clear the
13235s	board you can just toss a bran in there
13237s	for tempo as well if you really want to
13244s	it all lines up quite nicely
13256s	that's how you know someone's a brand
13258s	enjoyer right there technically correct
13260s	to do it that way but no actual reason
13262s	to do it unless you just like seeing
13264s	brand things happen
13265s	as i do
13267s	i don't understand why again i was
13270s	saying this before like
13272s	my brain should be evolved past the
13274s	point where just all twice makes it
13277s	happy but it does it does it's amazing
13279s	anything something anytime something
13281s	happens twice it's great that's why brad
13283s	is the best card in hearthstone
13285s	my favorite favorite thing to do is to
13287s	honorable kill somebody with a uh the
13290s	dread prison glitch
13292s	and then just sit there
13295s	with the cards on the screen
13303s	[Music]
13307s	so it deals the damage twice
13310s	oh okay i've never done that that's
13312s	pretty that's pretty great i think that
13314s	would tickle my stupid brain as well
13316s	yeah so like you
13319s	you deal like 10 damage to them but
13320s	honorable kills and it just hits them
13322s	again for 10 just to make sure
13330s	yeah you're just cool too i guess
13335s	sorry i very much stole your thunder
13337s	there tj i apologize
13340s	dude
13342s	my my thing's cool too it is all of your
13345s	things are cool tj
13347s	thank you
13349s	all of your bits land everything you do
13351s	is wonderful
13354s	congratulations you're the best
13357s	that's the thing my whole life is a bit
13360s	[Laughter]
13363s	oh
13364s	rodney hey
13366s	my gonna hold the brawl too
13371s	and we're gone
13374s	this will need reconnecting
13379s	we are no longer connected to the
13381s	spectator
13387s	uh which i hope if uh burro is in the
13389s	same situation he recognizes it as well
13396s	i think he just did
13398s	yeah
13412s	i'll be back uh i think we're back
13417s	i don't think burrow is quite back yet
13423s	my assessment of the situation given his
13426s	face
13427s	looking into space
13431s	all we really know right now is uh smite
13433s	plus five other pirates
13436s	yep all right sounds pretty good to me
13442s	uh this is a lot of damage
13444s	it is uh jwc depending on these pirates
13447s	will also have a lot of yep there's a
13448s	smite
13451s	oh it's it's just
13453s	it's a beast
13462s	is but it honestly did not matter that
13464s	much we saw the smite right the smite
13465s	was the hard left pick that disconnected
13467s	the client so even if this wasn't that
13470s	much damage and they were all just used
13471s	to be rush minions to clear up the board
13473s	right because we saw the smite it was
13475s	going to end yeah
13477s	yeah
13479s	all right
13480s	that'll do it jwc
13482s	uh you know magic
13484s	burrow fought as hard as he could have
13487s	in that game given just how much removal
13490s	he was up against he got the double
13492s	sunken gardens
13494s	in order to make a lot of stats that was
13495s	like four reloads a pretty massive
13498s	boards yep but
13500s	at the end it just wasn't enough and jwc
13502s	moves up 6-0 now in the swiss
13506s	yeah a really good really strong
13507s	performance overall in the tournament
13509s	and just a really strong series i
13510s	thought very well played overall um you
13514s	know i know whenever anyone says that on
13516s	any broadcast about anyone in the entire
13518s	world someone pops up and says uh no
13520s	actually it was full of misplays listen
13522s	to me actually
13524s	yeah exactly
13525s	um but in that case i i do think that
13528s	was a very well played series on both
13530s	sides and certainly very interestingly
13532s	played series on both sides it wasn't
13533s	just two players going for the obvious
13536s	vanilla plays that everyone could see
13537s	all the time like even right up to that
13539s	last moment that looked like such an
13541s	obvious brawl right at the end and then
13543s	jwc just goes uh no brand pirates win
13546s	the game next turn what are you talking
13548s	about um which ended up being obviously
13550s	you know so much better than it would
13552s	have been otherwise because as i said
13554s	like as long as he hits a smite which
13556s	you're 46 to hit a smite off one set of
13560s	pirate discovers so when you're doing it
13561s	with the bran you're going to get a
13563s	smite and so as long as you get the
13564s	smite there
13566s	even if you somehow didn't find enough
13568s	damage to win the game if the opponent
13570s	was able to fill the board with the
13571s	neutrons and whatever other taunts on
13573s	the following turn you were going to be
13575s	able to trade through everything right
13576s	and be able to clear the board and
13577s	obtain a brawl over the course of the
13579s	the game which is really nice really
13581s	liked and now as soon as you explained
13583s	it burroughs play with the mech mage as
13585s	well even in a seemingly one game
13588s	playing very aggressively around spammy
13590s	arcanist which was one of the only
13591s	things he could lose to at that point
13593s	even though i missed it at the time as
13594s	soon as you it out i think that was a
13596s	very very strong play as well it was a
13598s	lot of good stuff in the series what tj
13600s	what's that face for
13602s	what's the second spell school in
13604s	warrior
13606s	oh did multicaster draw two cards it
13608s	drew two cards uh no idea
13612s	pop quiz trivia for those of you at home
13615s	write in answers on a postcard what are
13617s	the spell schools in warrior
13620s	this is important i need to know this
13623s	[Music]
13627s	i
13628s	actually don't know
13629s	fortune flame is probably fire
13633s	possibly yeah that would make sense
13635s	and then who knows
13637s	shield shatter
13639s	fell i don't know
13641s	oh uh frozen buckler
13644s	ah frozen buckler yep you got it okay
13646s	there we go shows how much i played
13648s	multicaster in uh
13650s	in uh
13652s	warrior
13652s	it shows how much i pick multicaster
13654s	from nelly
13656s	um
13657s	but yeah that was uh
13659s	quite the series honestly just in terms
13662s	of like how grindy it was yeah towards
13664s	the end there saw the expected win demon
13666s	hunter versus warrior
13668s	but burro still not out of things yet
13670s	5-1 definitely a good score going into
13672s	round seven
13674s	uh just needs to uh pick up those last
13676s	two wins in order to make it to top 16.
13679s	but we actually still even though that
13680s	was a long one we still have some action
13682s	left to go
13684s	for round six so uh saw tonight we're
13686s	gonna go and uh take a quick break
13689s	and uh when we come back we're gonna
13690s	have uh some more action here in round
13693s	six from master storyboards to the
13694s	sunken city don't go anywhere
13699s	[Music]
13764s	you
13773s	[Music]
13791s	[Music]
13797s	[Music]
13808s	[Applause]
13810s	[Music]
13811s	[Applause]
13825s	[Music]
13832s	[Music]
13834s	you
13837s	[Music]
13852s	[Music]
13891s	welcome back everybody to continued
13893s	coverage of round six here at masters
13895s	tour voyage to the sunken city after
13897s	that long one we've still got some more
13899s	action for this round as the round is
13901s	ongoing and with me is somebody a bit
13903s	more sensible we found the sensible
13905s	person i think it's gear
13908s	he's giving me the sensible label
13910s	larinda but i don't know i'm the one
13912s	sitting out here in the most hazardous
13914s	background every single time i don't
13916s	know how i get away with it alive
13919s	yeah that's kind of weird actually yeah
13920s	you had the the swords last time and now
13922s	you'll get a leaking ship
13924s	um but we are going to join blazing
13927s	illusion at one zero to illusion you can
13930s	see the lineups there um the rogue the
13933s	paladin therefore illusion the big
13935s	standout splice just bringing the good
13937s	stuff i think um i'm just gonna check
13940s	what the priest is before i say that but
13941s	it is banned yeah it was the boar priest
13943s	uh he's been struggling a little with
13945s	that on stream so he's probably not too
13946s	unhappy not to have to play it
13948s	and worth noting because people will
13951s	assume differently
13953s	blize is not really in contention for
13955s	last call or for
13958s	um well he's into college from the last
13959s	couple of ign but he's not in contention
13961s	for seasonal championships he's had a
13962s	couple of bad tournaments at the start
13964s	of this year so he's gonna get the
13965s	seasonal champs he's going to need to do
13968s	well in this one so he's one zero down
13970s	do you think he can make a comeback
13972s	cheer
13972s	absolutely lauren i think blize is one
13974s	of those sort of fickle characters where
13976s	his performance in hearthstone is
13978s	heavily dependent on how much he is
13980s	enjoying the meta he makes no secrets of
13982s	it either and even though you did say he
13984s	seemed to be struggling with boar
13985s	priests on stream i'm not sure at what
13987s	point in the stream you tuned in because
13988s	when i looked he was just winning and
13990s	winning with it but
13991s	i mean he streams long hours when he
13993s	does enjoy the game and i'm glad to see
13995s	that he's found a couple of decks that
13997s	vibe with him very well and he is going
13999s	to start off with the quest hunter here
14002s	the harpoon gun inclusion is something
14004s	i've been seeing from sort of the french
14006s	practice group more so than others
14008s	and what is the reason for the harpoon
14010s	guys sort of see this card and look at
14011s	it is it the dredge portion particularly
14013s	useful or
14015s	i it's a card i struggle with enjoying
14017s	in hunter
14018s	yeah i just feel that it is just a
14021s	decent shaped weapon three mana three
14022s	two that's just your standard fiery war
14024s	axe dot line with the benefit of
14026s	dredging and dredging sort of working to
14029s	make sure that your next couple of draws
14030s	are not quite so bad it does say every
14033s	time your hero attacks it's not just one
14035s	battle cry from bone glaive so it can
14036s	help with that but this weapon inclusion
14039s	does come at the cost of cutting candle
14041s	shot which we see a lot of other players
14043s	preferring to make sure that they can
14044s	get continuous value with their dragon
14046s	bane shots so pros and cons as always
14049s	but the additional damage from the heart
14051s	poon gun i think is not to be
14052s	underestimated yeah and again it goes
14054s	alongside bringing that boar priest
14057s	because it means he's expecting a
14058s	slightly slower meta most likely and so
14060s	he brings the card that's better against
14062s	the druids and so on uh stottles also
14064s	backed you up by the way blize was doing
14065s	really well apart from when i was
14067s	watching i think i was just cursed on
14068s	priests i was trying to find people to
14070s	watch you were doing where were they
14071s	like oh blind he'll be fine lose lose
14073s	lose lose quit stream lose two days
14075s	running i'm like okay i'm not only
14077s	cursed to play this deck on curse never
14079s	to actually see it win a game but we
14081s	broke that yesterday with moyan so i'm
14082s	happy now and then the pirates rogue
14085s	which is really interesting to me
14087s	because first of all it destroys druid
14090s	but one of the things in play testing is
14093s	this should beat warrior and watching
14096s	various play tests it seemed to go about
14097s	50 50 checking stats it seems to go
14100s	about 50 50.
14101s	how do you feel this works place against
14103s	the warrior i know it's not playing the
14104s	warrior now but that's kind of why it's
14106s	in people's lineups
14107s	well i just feel it's very difficult for
14109s	the rogue they don't have very
14112s	many board refills like they can get on
14114s	board pretty quickly especially if they
14116s	hit the vessel and dredge but it just
14118s	comes in too few waves i feel compared
14121s	to some of the other decks that have
14122s	tons of refill the overall burst in the
14125s	deck is not quite so strong as it is in
14126s	demon hunter either there is of course
14128s	hook tusk at the top end here to
14130s	potentially steal value from the warrior
14133s	whether it comes from the deck or the
14134s	hand but this version that we're seeing
14136s	from illusion has zero shadow steps here
14138s	so they're you're not running the
14140s	guaranteed multiple hook test
14142s	activations in the deck you can of
14144s	course still discover more hooked us
14146s	from amalgam if you are a skilled player
14148s	but we see that um illusion has what am
14151s	i saying illusion has included a double
14154s	fog sail freebooter instead so that's a
14156s	little bit more i would say of a slant
14158s	towards other aggressive matchups that
14161s	he's tucked for against quest hunter in
14164s	particular i think any bit of extra
14166s	damage should be useful not hook dusk
14168s	herself so i do like the free booters
14170s	for this matchup
14172s	yeah i think in this matchup in
14173s	particular you're gonna have to get
14174s	going really quickly too can't mess
14177s	around against these hunter decks they
14178s	try and take over the board and then
14180s	just destroy you with their spells or
14182s	they just destroy with their spells and
14183s	blow up a couple of minions along the
14185s	way so
14186s	the fact of the rogue is just a little
14188s	bit slower than we're used to rogue
14189s	being could end up being a problem here
14192s	but coined into two two three always a
14194s	nice start for any minion base deck so
14197s	illusion won't be too disappointed here
14200s	starting off with the dredge
14203s	okay he takes the gun fishing which will
14205s	give him another draw because one thing
14207s	worth noting is that he saw that mr
14209s	smite was at the bottom of the deck
14210s	which is not generally good news because
14212s	you do want to see that card at some
14214s	point to finish out the game but because
14216s	he's able to pick up gun fishing he does
14218s	have access to mr smite later on at any
14220s	point he chooses to get it but for this
14222s	turn completely agree the priority
14224s	should be on removing the rainbow glow
14226s	scale
14227s	it does feel a little bit bad that he's
14229s	already as early as now not pushing face
14231s	damage but leaving spell damage on board
14234s	when you have a three health minion is
14236s	just too scary because so many spells
14238s	from the hunter have that two damage
14239s	break point that gets improved to a
14241s	clean kill when you leave rainbow glow
14243s	skill up
14244s	lies will be very happy to keep this
14246s	pattern over the next few turns killer
14248s	thing with a spell occupy the board if
14250s	you can do that two or three turns in a
14252s	row you'll be in a fantastic spot but
14255s	you know illusion still able to grab the
14258s	board for the the forthcoming
14260s	for foreseeable future hey there's some
14262s	words that i understand
14264s	and yep does get the philip fighter or
14267s	filet fighter which one are you
14269s	um to occupy the board you're probably a
14271s	fisherman sorry
14273s	ah
14274s	see we're gonna have a discussion about
14276s	this between the the bits and the rest
14278s	of the cast over the next few days i can
14280s	tell
14281s	well i'm not overly bothered about it i
14283s	can save phillip if it makes you feel
14285s	better i can say philip if it makes you
14287s	feel better let's just call it philip
14288s	from now on i think that's where we're
14290s	at with after today's broadcasts
14292s	big thing about picking philip though is
14294s	that illusion even prepped out just a
14296s	gun fishing he's willing to just play
14298s	for extreme tempo here in order to get
14301s	the board and that means that both gun
14303s	fishing have been used with smite still
14305s	at the bottom so if he has any hope of
14308s	seeing smite enter his hand for the rest
14310s	of the game it should come from the uh
14312s	swordfish being drawn at some point
14314s	which is a big deal because if he does
14315s	find swordfish then that smite gets
14317s	buffed up to eight attack
14319s	notice how lightning fast is we talk
14321s	about it a lot with blaze but i have
14322s	seen him again in some of those priest
14324s	matches go reasonably slow
14327s	while he's actually learning something
14328s	new but with a deck that he's
14330s	comfortable with he does not mess around
14332s	he is playing at lightning speed
14333s	actually to be fair so his illusion
14335s	right now this one is rocketing along
14338s	that's right i don't know if this is one
14339s	of those cases of bly's forcing other
14341s	players to match his pace or if illusion
14343s	is just a naturally quick player himself
14345s	but with blighs here this explosive trap
14348s	is exactly what illusion did not want to
14350s	see it is the nightmare and bear in mind
14353s	blyze is running one copy of emergency
14355s	maneuvers as well naturally in the deck
14357s	so illusion can still hope that this is
14360s	not explosive but if it is all his board
14363s	development goes up in smoke
14365s	i mean there's very little for these
14367s	things to trade into anyway so just got
14370s	to get it over with unless you're you're
14371s	going to actually cook the last part of
14373s	the quest and even then you might as
14374s	well when else you're going to attack
14376s	it's kind of what your deck does
14379s	all right
14381s	okay so my crabatoa and vessel
14384s	um
14385s	takes a krabatoa which i agree with
14387s	smite is just not enough damage at this
14389s	point blize is still very healthy at 19.
14392s	um so he illusion just goes for more
14394s	board development instead
14397s	and the nets is going to allow him to
14399s	complete and play tavish put a 7-7 on
14402s	the board which gives him
14404s	lethal over
14405s	probably next turn depending on his
14407s	pickup but with a viper available to
14409s	cycle if needed for that lethal in a 7-7
14412s	likely lethal next turn available two
14415s	plies
14416s	um
14418s	not sure how likely if he gets quick
14420s	shot or well furious hell i would say is
14422s	probably just lethal but not many cards
14425s	in his deck would afford him straight up
14426s	lethal given that the crabatoa is ready
14429s	to clear off the tavish body itself so
14431s	we'll see from blyze here
14434s	treasure guard
14437s	probably start with
14440s	you trade the viper i guess so look for
14442s	that lethal
14445s	pretty far off he is gonna go for board
14447s	control first which i think is very
14450s	reasonable
14453s	yeah much harder next time because you
14454s	only have the one draw so
14456s	steps in back a little bit but how's
14458s	illusion getting through this over the
14459s	next couple of turns
14461s	that'll help
14463s	it's active oh
14466s	the thing is they have an equal amount
14468s	of attack so you can't just guaranteed
14469s	steal the treasure guard and plundering
14472s	the hand does nothing so it's either
14473s	five cards from the deck or take a 50
14475s	50. but i kind of prefer the five cards
14477s	from deck because now he just has tons
14478s	of resources including
14481s	be soccer tavish oh my
14484s	yeah
14484s	um
14486s	whether he'll make the time to play it
14488s	or just focus on the minions he actually
14489s	already has is another question of
14491s	course uh this is a whiff tracking it
14494s	could be huge if he picks up furious
14496s	howl he's still in business
14500s	uh quick shot what is a draw right and
14503s	it's just yeah i think he's played
14504s	everything already yep
14508s	lies is too fast for the spectator it
14510s	looked like he was playing quick shot
14511s	when he still had a card but nope that
14513s	card was already in play quick shot for
14516s	the draw
14517s	just needs a okay that's lethal
14521s	he's just been sat there for like
14523s	15 seconds well we've been watching the
14525s	game and he finished ages ago he's
14527s	already on to game number i know seven
14529s	or eight or something
14530s	and yeah levels up the scores um with an
14533s	expected win against the vogue you saw
14535s	kind of how it pans out there where it
14537s	gets on the board stops that happening
14539s	and then
14540s	shoots you down
14541s	uh looks a little bit touch and go with
14543s	the
14544s	the slightly less damage based hunt i
14546s	would say just those extra couple of
14548s	secrets and so on but
14550s	easily got there in the end and now that
14552s	rogue
14553s	still around but it's got the easier
14554s	jobs to do against the warrior and the
14557s	druid
14559s	is it easier against warrior i don't
14560s	think it's easier against warrior i mean
14562s	it's easier than it is against hunter
14564s	whether it's favored is the big question
14566s	of the tournament i think
14568s	is it easier than it is i guess i mean
14570s	like rogue just
14571s	their board vessels against warrior and
14574s	warrior has so much armor game like i
14576s	the one asterisk i would put there is
14579s	okay but hook tusk if you're facing a
14581s	pure value based game then yoinking five
14583s	cards from their deck could be a huge
14586s	difference maker but it's highly
14587s	dependent on which five you get because
14589s	i feel that there are five that
14591s	are plenty of combinations of five cards
14593s	that warrior can lose and still be very
14595s	much in the lead in the long run uh
14598s	because yeah again no shadow step for
14600s	illusion so you can't just play hook
14602s	tusk over and over and try and win in
14603s	fatigue so i feel like blice is still
14606s	very much in the lead here
14607s	got to admit yeah i'm actually on your
14609s	side to some degree if i had to pick a
14611s	side i would pick the warrior um but i
14614s	also realized that a lot of people have
14616s	brought vogue for this up so yeah i'm
14619s	gonna try and give it a 50 50. does that
14621s	say 51 percent in favor of the rogue at
14623s	top 1000
14624s	oh really
14626s	but i mean top 1000 yeah i've been top
14628s	1000 many many times so
14631s	is this a double shadow step list though
14633s	uh let me look
14635s	i mean it is not it's a no shadow
14639s	statement oh really okay then just don't
14642s	listen to me i don't know what i'm
14643s	talking about then maybe that hook tusk
14645s	is able to get enough work done with
14647s	just five cards joint or maybe there's
14650s	reliable odds that you can discover more
14652s	of them from amalgam but in terms of
14654s	just straight up damage i kind of
14657s	struggle to think that the row can
14658s	actually get there but we shall see it's
14661s	not as though the warriors only win
14662s	condition is to just outlast the damage
14664s	as well they can very much get on board
14666s	and fight back enyxian drake is just
14668s	such an efficient removal tool and the
14671s	taunt on it also makes it kind of a
14673s	threatening minion on board and then of
14675s	course you have the chance to go for
14677s	from the depths into early nelly or
14679s	akara and earlier nexia can very much
14681s	close out games against rogue as well
14684s	um an okay start fallujah because he has
14688s	swordfish for no other reason than that
14690s	but not a lot else going there obviously
14692s	smite could be handy but he's got to
14694s	fill out the gaps in the curve in the
14695s	meantime also gia don't agree with me on
14698s	anything in this tournament we're
14699s	already in trouble for for mage
14704s	saying that we thought that mage wasn't
14706s	particularly great
14707s	orange is on our case
14710s	it's the cutlass from the dredge it's
14712s	interesting because the dynamic duo of
14714s	plague scientists and puffer fish were
14716s	both at the bottom and
14718s	there's only one copy of plague
14720s	scientist in illusions decks so he is
14723s	conceding the fact that there's a
14725s	possibility that he will not see that
14727s	plague scientist till very much later on
14731s	but it's you know not super important
14733s	against warrior i would say and if you
14736s	do have scientists then you also need to
14738s	have puffer fist for it to actually be
14740s	super useful
14741s	so it just takes another judger instead
14745s	yeah interesting to see there as well
14746s	that blize just straight up fired out
14749s	uh the buckler at the start here just to
14751s	buy himself some time he's got enough
14752s	stuff going on that that time's okay
14756s	um
14757s	a lot of people hold on to that to try
14758s	and combo it
14760s	true um the buckler with shield shatter
14762s	is one of the ways to get through even
14764s	the stealth minions from vessel uh but
14767s	blize here with that timing as it
14769s	happens it manages to eat one extra
14771s	armor than it usually does
14773s	he only got minus four because of the
14775s	attack break point on these swordfish
14778s	not great choices on the replacement
14780s	here because basically illusion's just
14782s	been cycling out this third slot the
14784s	pufferfish and plague scientists have
14785s	always been there the third slot is now
14787s	wicked stop which is far too early i
14789s	would say to be effective so maybe it's
14792s	a puffer fist to take
14794s	it's a tough one right he's already got
14796s	the smite for his direct damage um which
14798s	obviously is a lot of damage sometimes
14800s	uh taking um
14803s	more direct damage when you're not
14804s	occupying the board particularly well
14806s	yeah it seems to be a little bit awkward
14808s	with his hand he currently has he
14810s	urgently needs some stuff to
14813s	do but it's not a great overall turn
14816s	from illusion because the rest of the
14818s	man is just spent on dagger and blize is
14820s	able to trade down either a vt or take
14823s	down the 43 if he likes
14826s	gold teacher is going to be the play
14828s	here to get wow frozen buckler and
14830s	shield block are both amazing choices
14832s	but i do like shield block to get
14834s	additional cycle and it goes super well
14836s	with the onyxian drake doesn't even need
14838s	to spend coin to get that activation
14843s	illusion does have that puffer face now
14847s	and
14848s	yeah struggling to find exciting things
14850s	to do wasting a manner here as well
14852s	through no fault of his own particularly
14855s	that's that's just not where you want to
14856s	be given the discussion we had at the
14858s	start
14859s	i do like the line of trading off the
14861s	viper but leaving up the school teacher
14863s	recognizing that the school teacher is
14864s	very likely just going to take the
14866s	trades for illusion here and he has the
14869s	krabatoa to follow up on board but the
14872s	break point of five health on onyxia and
14874s	drake is just a little bit awkward and
14876s	even the nagaling is able to challenge
14878s	one of the claws by itself
14881s	yeah which is pretty ridiculous
14884s	and
14885s	illusion trying to create the illusion
14887s	that he has a choice here
14890s	i'm sure he does particularly
14892s	nope don't think so either
14898s	and so what's the best way to go about
14900s	this turn
14903s	you can stack your weapon yeah and then
14906s	kill off the nagaling to refresh your
14908s	weapon oh but these trades i need to
14910s	look away so painful uh absolutely
14913s	horrible looking yeah he had to do it
14915s	but yeah i don't know but yeah
14919s	all right here's nelly
14922s	take a moment guys have a look at the
14923s	card
14924s	increments smite oh my gosh
14927s	buffer fist wow
14930s	incredible uh he could take tuskar
14932s	trawler instead because he doesn't have
14934s	a weapon at the moment
14935s	but i just tend to look at the most
14937s	expensive thing you can get from nelly
14939s	to get the achievement you know 14 cost
14941s	crew or more
14943s	oh
14944s	yeah i think i get these achievements
14946s	just by accident and being bad at the
14947s	games
14949s	the two you've mentioned the nelly one
14950s	and the get five mets i just i've
14953s	already i know i've got them both
14955s	already i didn't even try for them i
14956s	just play so much and lose so much it's
14958s	like i'll do this thing a million times
14960s	until something fun happens oh
14961s	achievement cool something fun happens
14963s	right i can change deck now
14965s	not quite pinned down what that
14966s	expression was from vice shaking his
14968s	finger like oh you're copying a beast
14970s	not a pirate
14973s	is there something in particular that
14975s	was he was really hoping not to see or
14977s	was he happy to see that the amalgam was
14979s	on a beast i don't know
14981s	what beasts exist these days i still
14984s	haven't quite got damaged is this lethal
14986s	this is probably what you thought right
14988s	i just assumed it was 10
14992s	15
14993s	15. you counted the amalgam yeah yeah
14998s	then yes
15001s	i know you can play the brand first then
15002s	you can get double charge
15005s	[Laughter]
15007s	charge fury
15009s	judge feel me oh that's a captain
15013s	but he doesn't have mana to play captain
15015s	maul and puffer
15020s	still the pick though i agree
15024s	yeah yeah play all the big stats and
15025s	then you can count if this is lethal and
15027s	if it's not then you just take trades
15029s	but it is legal exactly
15032s	and blize is 2-1 ahead he was 1-0 down
15035s	in no time at all for what we could tell
15037s	because it was 1-0 when we got here and
15039s	now and a blink of an eye he's 2-1 ahead
15043s	and down to
15045s	the problem
15046s	the druid
15047s	true bligh's fashion although i will say
15049s	i am very much
15051s	thrown off by the fact that liza's
15053s	background is bright and not avoid
15057s	oh yeah i watched european grand masters
15059s	this is not how this works
15061s	maybe he's trying something different so
15062s	he can distinguish when he checks vods
15064s	oh this was a grandmaster's game this
15066s	was a
15067s	i don't know a lighty masters tour game
15071s	or maybe he's just won so much money now
15073s	he can afford to oh he hasn't turned the
15074s	electrical he's actually got a window
15076s	yes
15077s	he goes installed with all his winnings
15083s	well maybe his spaceship is rotated to
15085s	face the sun
15092s	we will we'll ask him how's your
15093s	spaceship doing blize he'll know exactly
15095s	what we're talking about i'm sure
15097s	right here's the ramp druid it is up
15098s	against the warrior and the rogue um
15101s	expected outcome
15103s	lose to the rogue beat the warrior but
15105s	we shall see
15108s	yeah i mean i'm still thrown off by that
15110s	warrior versus rogue stat maybe like i
15112s	just have zero luck with rogue when i'm
15114s	playing against warrior but uh
15116s	we will see how it does against the
15119s	druid very much a similar story i would
15122s	say where you are expecting to get a
15124s	head on board as the rogue early on
15126s	but at some point the druid can clear
15129s	and then they can gain a bunch of armor
15130s	sounds like warrior the druid can't
15133s	quite scam a turn eight victory or was
15135s	it turned nine from blyze or something
15137s	like that um
15138s	with a nelly out of nowhere but they can
15141s	definitely create huge board states with
15143s	the giants with the nexia etc etc
15146s	yeah they can't scammer victory gym but
15148s	they can spam a victory double spammy
15151s	arcanist in this deck from blyze and
15153s	that could turn out to be a big deal
15155s	going forward in the early game here
15157s	with wild growth leading into it
15160s	nice opening hand for bleis he did have
15162s	the option to druid of the reef to get
15164s	rid of philip but he's instead chosen
15168s	coin hero power into moonlit guidance
15169s	into wild growth which is still a decent
15171s	curve i wonder if he's looking at the
15173s	druid of the reef to be paired with the
15175s	spammy arcanist to help make a board
15177s	state that's a lot more um manageable
15180s	with the spammy or he's just saving it
15182s	for a minion with more health
15185s	so many cut lie
15187s	oh no
15188s	and no spells discounted by them
15191s	oh no swordfish and cuttlefish
15196s	that's how that works out
15201s	into blaze just infinite mana turn
15203s	coming up soon it's not quite infinite
15205s	but it feels infinite when you play
15207s	against it
15211s	rebooter just as a play next turn hook
15214s	dusk is so far off from being playable
15217s	oh yeah
15219s	disaster
15221s	yeah those trades into just cut those
15223s	into cutlass into cutlass basically
15226s	we're pretty grim to say the least
15232s	okay can you get a vessel this time
15235s	no
15236s	no spells
15240s	not even a gun fishing
15244s	curious what blinds would do here
15246s	there's some obvious looking plays druid
15248s	yeah this
15251s	that's himself a beast as well oh my
15253s	gosh insta viper hello
15257s	doesn't even get the last four damage
15260s	have you noticed amalgams are just
15261s	giving people exactly what they want
15262s	today like we've had um a smite earlier
15266s	on as well
15267s	let's turn up from amalgam into amalgam
15269s	as druid yeah it's just easy
15272s	yeah
15274s	don't even have to target a pirate to
15276s	get smite you can just target an amalgam
15278s	i mean it doesn't hurt but
15280s	you know what i mean it's a private and
15282s	many other things
15284s	look at it
15286s	legs it's good
15288s	it's a horrible thing shark teeth
15290s	whiskers dragon wing
15292s	it is
15293s	you know it's
15295s	you see what you see is what you get
15297s	uh illusion though has drawn puffer fist
15300s	and plague scientists so he is able to
15303s	clear almost any board only divine
15306s	shields that could really stop him
15307s	potentially from the ivous
15309s	but otherwise he can come back but i
15312s	don't think bizarre is going to over
15314s	extend to the point where like if he
15316s	does run into that combo he has no win
15318s	conditions left just goes for the ramp
15320s	with the nourish and is relying on his
15322s	deck to provide him some further card
15324s	draw and if not honestly
15326s	i was wondering if he was going to go
15327s	kazakus on earthen scales next turn but
15329s	he's even playing the earthen scales
15331s	right now on a viper full tempo
15334s	yeah and ivis is there to buy a turn or
15336s	two if needed
15340s	all right
15341s	[Music]
15343s	going in with the clear right now uh
15346s	does look a bit weak to scale of vinyxia
15348s	but i think illusion is in a bad enough
15350s	spot where he can't really afford to
15351s	play around all of that i was gonna get
15354s	rid of the puffer fist and then illusion
15357s	has a very awkward spot where if he
15359s	wants to draw with cutlass courier he
15360s	needs to take 11. that's not something
15363s	you can take it is just lethal next turn
15365s	if he does yeah absolutely
15369s	and he's feeling it
15371s	he can't kill the 11 11.
15375s	that's just a bad spot
15378s	one mana pirate that can help i don't
15380s	think there is one
15382s	no
15385s	okay
15386s	so he's not dead on board but over a
15389s	couple of turns very likely
15392s	yeah can he even kill it next turn like
15394s	is that a thing that's with smite but
15396s	it's ugly
15398s	it really is ugly
15399s	and he can't kill the kazakhstan if you
15401s	use the smite to kill that
15404s	oh okay uh
15406s	that's a big deal
15408s	and send four damage in oh but he still
15411s	has to face tank the kazakhstan to kill
15413s	it
15415s	ew
15417s	you don't want to do that
15420s	and because he has to face down
15422s	kazakhstan and not the fourth tank oh
15425s	wait yeah he can do it this order where
15427s	it's all the two attack minions and the
15429s	claw in and then oh
15434s	yep
15435s	works
15438s	if you go
15439s	for attack minion and then three two
15442s	attack minions you can maintain one
15443s	weapon charge at the end of the turn i
15445s	think
15446s	okay
15450s	yeah because then you would swing once
15452s	into the kazakhstan then the other claw
15454s	goes in and you still have one claw
15456s	weapon left but you still take the same
15458s	amount of damage and it sucks
15460s	not like this he's just gonna hit him
15462s	three times eliza's gonna hit illusion
15464s	just three times in the face and just
15466s	put minions down that have to be dealt
15468s	with just slow to slow illusion down
15470s	yeah
15471s	is that it is that how this comes to an
15473s	end
15474s	it very well could be it's not like
15476s	blaze has any other burst
15479s	oh no she literally has two turns to get
15482s	this done that's a pretty good draw
15485s	i mean this looks like a is it a lethal
15487s	setup we'll see
15489s	it must be with smite actually
15491s	20 on board 26 yes it is oh bly's cheers
15494s	so he hits the scale so he lives
15498s	against this board and he can weave in
15500s	that hero power so it looks like it is
15502s	going to be just hero power for lethal
15504s	the next turn can not like this
15508s	oh no just three hero powers for victory
15512s	illusion needs to find a way out of this
15514s	right now or it's going to be horrible
15516s	that's not a taunt
15519s	nope
15520s	no i'm mal that's not a tool anything
15523s	at least courier cannot draw a taunt
15525s	there are no pirate taunts in the deck
15529s	that's good
15530s	quick
15534s	that's just it it's just a hero power
15536s	lethal
15537s	no three turns in a row one damage from
15540s	druid hero power is there anything this
15542s	hero can't do
15545s	i mean got value from spammy arcadis
15547s	this game yeah it's just been chilly and
15549s	last game earlier when um
15552s	player got the board just with with the
15554s	ramp druid and then had spammy which
15556s	would blow his own board up it's not
15559s	having a bad day as the spammy
15561s	oh not meant to be
15563s	huge win for blize goes up to five and
15565s	one still very much within contention of
15568s	making it the top 16 perhaps even his
15570s	third ever masters tour win currently
15573s	he's tied for most master sword wins
15575s	with gabby and gabby is not playing
15577s	anymore in this masters tour so blize
15579s	could just take the record back for
15581s	himself but for illusion kind of a rough
15583s	way to go out that opening hand was
15586s	depressing to say the least
15588s	yeah it was really grim the rogue just
15590s	not showing
15591s	what people say it can do at the moment
15593s	i'm sort of on team gear with this one
15595s	but enough people have bought it we're
15597s	seeing it at the four one bracket it
15599s	must be doing quite well out there i
15600s	thought i'd just give you a quick update
15602s	as well while we're here um as we're in
15603s	the field
15604s	um
15605s	that letter the viper 94
15608s	abu gabu cursed wuben and face off are
15611s	your six and oh players at this point um
15615s	habu is the big name they're really
15617s	looking for
15619s	a couple more wins to get to seasonal
15621s	champions and possibly last call gm as
15623s	well and obviously letter sort of the
15625s	biggest name up there at the moment
15626s	former gm and looking to also get
15629s	himself into the seasonal championship
15631s	so it's shaping up nicely but the five
15632s	and one crowd which i won't read out if
15635s	you like them and they're not gabby
15637s	they're five on one right now it's just
15638s	everybody is five and one it's
15640s	absolutely nutty down there in that uh
15642s	five one bracket
15643s	yeah that's right plenty of names that
15645s	will be familiar to the viewers who have
15648s	chosen throughout the grand masters and
15650s	the master store system but that does
15652s	mean we are officially halfway through
15654s	the day
15657s	yeah i'm just going to want to shout out
15658s	an edgy boston on five one who has
15661s	only sort of the last few master stores
15662s	even started qualifying and has been
15664s	doing progressively better had one or
15666s	two mediocre ones i think but you're
15668s	negative boston five and one name that i
15670s	think people appreciate the shout out
15671s	for uh but yeah there's millions of
15673s	others in there as well just picking one
15675s	out of the void there and like you say
15677s	round six is an end gear uh that was
15679s	quick
15681s	i mean it was a bly series got what you
15683s	pay for
15685s	you absolutely do
15687s	but i think round seven is on the way
15690s	and as always you don't want to hear me
15692s	waffling away you might want to listen
15693s	to gia but you don't want to listen to
15694s	me so let's get me off the screen and
15696s	get on with round number seven
15699s	here the masters tour
15701s	[Music]
15751s	oh
15753s	ah
15755s	[Music]
15773s	[Music]
15789s	[Applause]
15791s	[Music]
15848s	[Music]
15894s	hello everyone and welcome back up for
15896s	more hearthstone action here i'm raven
15898s	and joining me is tj at regular size tj
15901s	regular placed tj uh now this is just a
15905s	troll subtle kind of uh style here from
15907s	you mate um we do have another match up
15910s	coming up for you guys it's gonna be
15911s	round seven and it is the viper versus
15914s	letter for this first match up on stream
15916s	of this round tj
15918s	yeah should be a good one uh viper94 i
15921s	don't know too much about but obviously
15924s	um
15925s	you more so than me but i've watched a
15928s	lot of it as i waited for america's
15930s	grandmasters i've seen a good amount of
15931s	him from uh europe grand masters uh and
15935s	uh coming in with a pretty good
15937s	i guess we can still call it a start to
15939s	the matches tour
15941s	everything but round eight is a start of
15943s	the tour
15945s	so has had a good start round date's the
15947s	end tour
15949s	and then round date yep ex exactly
15951s	that's the end of the master's tour but
15953s	yeah the the viper is a play obviously
15955s	not to be confused with viper that
15958s	you'll have seen in european grand
15959s	masters and other tournaments you're
15961s	obviously a finalist at the world
15962s	championship
15963s	as well but the viper although not as
15965s	well known i imagine
15967s	i think it's very well known within like
15968s	the actual competitive players
15970s	themselves because he has been grinding
15972s	for quite a long time now i believe he
15974s	qualified to this masters tour through a
15976s	cup win rate or you know qualify a win
15979s	rate uh i think it was you know 70 plus
15981s	percent in there i think it was 18th or
15984s	something around that number in the
15986s	highest win rate across all the relevant
15988s	amount of cups so again just solid
15990s	performance just grinding out those cups
15992s	and performing well in them so i'm
15994s	excited to see him on stream and see
15995s	what he can do uh but yeah letter
15997s	obviously a previous european grand
16000s	master and a player who i think is
16002s	extremely good but just can't quite hit
16005s	the level of consistency we have seen
16007s	from the likes of yala um you know gabby
16010s	as well of course and blys you know
16012s	these kind of players that have been in
16014s	european grand masters that you just see
16016s	week in week out perform time and time
16019s	again and letter i feel like runs really
16021s	hot our runs really cold sometimes and
16023s	look at this lineup tj letter's actually
16025s	just decided to um go pretty much full
16028s	aggro here i believe he um he he does
16031s	like to play historically for example
16033s	like jamming miracle priest before
16035s	everyone else was at times and do
16038s	definitely doing his own thing but it
16040s	looks like he's kept it simple here and
16041s	just said you know what full aggro
16043s	lineup is the way to go and honestly i
16045s	think it's the way i would have gone if
16046s	i was submitting lineup for this
16048s	tournament
16050s	yeah it's sort of like uh
16052s	you know the
16054s	the tried and true strategy of an
16056s	unsolved metagame right is just to bring
16058s	aggro and punish people who may not have
16061s	uh as well rounded of lineups
16064s	um so i'm kind of in that boat as well
16066s	and we're kind of seeing here the the
16068s	quote-unquote standard lineup from the
16071s	viper where you just bring the good
16072s	decks right it's just the decks that
16075s	have essentially the four highest win
16077s	rates
16078s	uh in a competitive setting
16080s	um versus the aggro deck so we've
16082s	actually seen this a few times now on
16084s	stream
16085s	is this uh sort of particular matchup
16088s	and it does sort of hinge on
16090s	um
16091s	uh usually the druid right or whether or
16094s	not
16095s	the druid can get a win across
16098s	because it does seem like the warriors
16099s	well position except against the demon
16101s	hunter as we found out right raven
16103s	of course we're in this we're in the
16105s	same boat on this one oh your favorite
16107s	all the way
16108s	um and so the druid does seem to be the
16110s	weak point if there is one of this type
16112s	of lineup when fighting against
16114s	aggressive aggressive decks well i was
16116s	saying earlier as well i think when i
16118s	was there casting with gia earlier today
16119s	that uh the the amount of times we see
16122s	it not this druid the other druid the
16124s	ramp druid i feel like every time we see
16127s	it it's so often you know one of us or
16129s	you know the casters are like oh you
16131s	need to find scales to to you know
16133s	stabilize with armor and i feel like
16135s	that has almost become the key part of
16137s	druid is finding scales to be able to
16140s	just gain enough armor and like gain
16142s	time to be able to do more of these sort
16144s	of broken druid things but for now tj we
16146s	are looking at a different type of druid
16147s	there's gonna be the beast druid yet
16149s	another version of this aggressive style
16152s	i think now over the past 24 hours i've
16155s	cast a version without bottom feeder but
16157s	with them uh gardens and a few of these
16160s	other tools we see here and then i've
16162s	have cast versions with bottom feeder
16164s	but with other buff cards that are not
16167s	gardens so it definitely feels like
16168s	right now and no one's really agreed
16171s	upon the the 30-card list for truth oh i
16174s	agree no
16175s	yeah that the bistro um we even saw a
16178s	crossroads watch post being put in from
16180s	burrow in the initial match uh that we
16183s	saw last round
16185s	um obviously there's the core of
16187s	of the
16189s	token aggro beast
16192s	dredge
16196s	what's composting
16198s	there you go there you go um
16200s	but you know there's a ton of variation
16204s	in what the the package is outside of
16206s	that
16212s	the place to remember
16215s	okay
16217s	a
16218s	reasonable opening from letta just
16222s	because had the guardians no dredge
16224s	right now
16225s	and uh that frost that matriarch is sort
16228s	of stranded
16230s	for the time being but there's a lot of
16231s	hits
16232s	in the deck
16234s	and uh just having
16236s	the gardens is
16239s	good enough in itself for that early
16240s	tempo and if judge of course is picked
16242s	up
16243s	then we're looking at you know that
16245s	consistent buff of uh every minion
16247s	that's going to be picked up
16249s	uh from letta so
16250s	um viper on the other hand
16253s	the viper on the other hand does have
16255s	outrider jacks but these minions are
16258s	going to be sort of awkwardly shaped
16260s	in the early game because of that guard
16262s	that was played so rudder attacks
16265s	may not be able to draw too many cards
16266s	right now the viper
16268s	considering going for uh frozen buckler
16271s	plus shield slam here to try and kill
16274s	this off um but instead it's just gonna
16276s	armor up that frozen buckler could be a
16278s	big deal
16279s	when considering it in combination
16283s	uh with the uh
16285s	um
16286s	shield shatter at a certain point once
16288s	that's picked up
16293s	but for now it's gonna keep going up the
16294s	curb ooh
16297s	um
16305s	okay bottom feeder it is
16308s	i guess when faced with a decision like
16310s	that the card that you actively decide
16312s	to put in your deck is usually a good
16314s	discover option
16322s	does have to decide if it's worth it
16323s	it's also a beast
16324s	could fit in on curve discount that
16326s	matriarch
16327s	looks like a pretty good curve as well
16329s	for letta to actually get that matriarch
16331s	down uh with the oracle balloon
16338s	they're going to be able to summon uh
16339s	double
16341s	let me know
16343s	yes i can that was really weird as you
16345s	may have noticed my i could hear
16347s	everything but my mic just stopped
16349s	working for some reason that was really
16351s	odd sorry tj i'm back
16354s	oh man i didn't know what to do when i
16355s	was when i'm trapped in my own thoughts
16357s	like that
16358s	you need someone to bail you out
16361s	yeah with distractions right where are
16363s	we up to now sorry tj i apologize for
16365s	leaving you hanging there
16368s	in swiss round number seven
16370s	okay what game is this
16372s	this is game number one of the initial
16375s	match
16376s	this is letta
16378s	that's the viper they're my friends
16379s	they're playing a match at hearthstone
16381s	right now both at six and now
16383s	thank you for that and uh i nearly got
16385s	offended earlier when my mic stopped
16387s	because i was talking and then you just
16389s	started talking over me and i was like
16391s	tj i'm talking here what's going on and
16393s	then i realized uh you couldn't hear me
16395s	so i forgive you
16399s	thank you for forgiving me i thought i
16401s	thought you were gonna something i
16402s	didn't even know what i was doing still
16404s	i forgive you tj it's okay i thought you
16407s	were gonna stop replying to me then then
16408s	just leave me hanging to for some
16410s	payback so i was a bit scared
16413s	you'd never do that
16415s	so far though viper
16418s	although being pressured a little bit
16419s	with the weapon being able to draw off
16421s	this he has the broad double shield slam
16423s	and plenty of ways to gain armor and
16425s	then very soon the follow-up of nelly as
16428s	well to sort of
16429s	actually potentially even win board this
16431s	is looking already pretty rough a letter
16436s	yeah but so much just raw power in the
16439s	hand right now um just has to figure out
16441s	how to get this composting in uh
16444s	uh
16445s	at some point you know to try and keep
16447s	drawing make sure he has that reload
16450s	from the depths from the knuckling is
16452s	incredible could just do it again with a
16455s	free from the depths next turn
16457s	i wouldn't even hate that
16461s	think about the uh um with those two
16464s	other options i was just wondering
16466s	because i think you would just love a
16467s	shield chatter right now right i think
16469s	that's the one card you would love to
16472s	just have as an instant especially with
16473s	the buckler in hand already an instant
16476s	just no to pretty much any druid board
16479s	that can be made from letter because i
16481s	do think the uh at least at a glance way
16485s	that viper will want to be able to take
16487s	control this game is get a good board
16489s	clear hope there's no sort of mega
16491s	refill and then just play nelly on a
16494s	relatively empty board and then try and
16496s	then get to raid boss and nix here right
16498s	i think if those two things are done
16500s	there viper is you know likely to just
16502s	take control the game and finish it
16504s	yeah
16507s	the letter does have what you want is
16508s	the aggro druid right plenty of
16510s	resources and then a constant in hand
16513s	already to be able to just say yes i can
16515s	build a board and have pretty much
16517s	guaranteed refill at the same time
16520s	yep
16523s	this is what you want
16530s	what essentially just
16532s	dredge would be perfect right about now
16534s	for letta just to make these things even
16536s	bigger
16538s	to find that guardians yeah
16541s	it's going to go for pressure now
16544s	uh first and foremost
16548s	thinking about the trade
16551s	okay okay wow
16554s	this is taking it much slower than i
16556s	expected him to uh to be quite honest
16559s	um
16560s	is there a big power spike that he's
16562s	gonna be able to hit next turn
16564s	like oracle
16566s	pack mule that's five mana
16569s	and then matriarch would be
16572s	the first matriarch would be zero
16575s	and the second matriarch would be zero
16577s	and it could coin composting okay
16579s	yeah i think that's the way right it's
16581s	just trying to push chunks of damage
16583s	without just dumping everything and
16585s	saying okay i'm gonna get broad or
16586s	shield chatted now right because if he
16588s	just plays everything out even with the
16590s	composting i think like you still don't
16592s	want to just be cleared up with one card
16594s	by viper um so i do think that just well
16597s	at the moment he's winning it requires
16600s	the weapon swing and the nargling to
16601s	trade into just a pack mule and then if
16604s	this 4-5 draws out a shield slam or
16606s	something you just be like mom yeah
16608s	that's okay it's just a four or five and
16610s	it's you know pulled out a shield slime
16611s	already like seems fine
16613s	yeah
16616s	mainly of course because he has the
16617s	oracle frostsaber combo right which is
16619s	only going to get more powerful
16625s	oh yeah i like that i can't remember the
16627s	name but it's a good card
16630s	brute
16631s	yeah oh of course how could i forget
16633s	another brew added to the game
16636s	pretty sure it's some variation of brute
16638s	black scale brute i think
16641s	yeah
16642s	or black scale naga that summons a brute
16644s	it might summon a brute
16646s	black scale naga brute
16649s	maybe we're running out of space on the
16650s	card now
16652s	no because look at nelly's name
16655s	ah that's true
16656s	the text is tiny
16658s	the letters will just get small enough
16660s	to matchy camera size tj yeah
16663s	just keep getting smaller two fits
16669s	and yeah it looks like this is the turn
16671s	now letter will easily have the man if
16673s	he wants to stop here and just go
16674s	composting and then still hold on to
16676s	more resources has a guaranteed amalgam
16678s	target next turn with the help of that
16680s	patentee or the dire frost wolf as well
16683s	oh yeah oh excuse me for some reason i
16685s	thought the dire frost was the second
16688s	oh it's the summon the two two stealths
16690s	right it's someone's yeah yeah yeah i
16691s	just looked at the arc quickly and uh
16696s	what you said wasn't wrong though and
16698s	that's why i didn't question it you said
16700s	the first one will be zero man one one
16702s	would be zero mana and that's true
16705s	yeah yeah
16707s	technically correct but
16710s	i wonder now though especially with the
16712s	coin
16713s	i would argue the coin feels relatively
16715s	unneeded at this point in the game for
16717s	letter i wonder if finley is going to
16719s	get played because he has already played
16721s	the gardens right
16723s	oh yeah
16726s	and uh he had a bottom feeder that died
16729s	oh okay yeah apologies this is why i was
16730s	fighting with my mic i must have missed
16732s	a few things but yeah the finley doesn't
16734s	seem terrible it would be a finley for a
16737s	minimum of five cards right if you chose
16739s	to play nothing beforehand yep
16743s	and a huge payoff as well for it uh
16745s	being able to get a ton of stats
16748s	um
16750s	huh
16757s	you'll know shield shots are right it's
16758s	such a big deal
16764s	oh he's just got to slam one and that's
16766s	it oh no
16768s	jake oh sound the alarm
16771s	whew
16772s	there we go back pack mule police
16776s	please play finley please play finley
16782s	he could even like i think happily play
16785s	the amalgam at a bare minimum because it
16787s	replaces itself in hand right so you
16789s	either discover something you want to
16791s	play or you still get to finley the same
16793s	amount of cards
16795s	yeah he's going to go for it though
16799s	yeah
16801s	another buffalo
16802s	okay
16805s	oh gardens are oh home gardens garden
16812s	and i forgot
16813s	i just didn't think about the double
16815s	spinning finley
16818s	oh that's funny
16820s	not in sync though
16828s	this is actually insane
16831s	yeah
16832s	i think
16833s	our shower in gardens is has been
16836s	underwhelming at least from what we've
16837s	seen on stream but right now you see the
16840s	power of it right like look how big all
16842s	of these minions are it pretty much will
16845s	simply require a brawl from viper and
16847s	then that's what five more card trolls
16851s	yeah and there's already car troll on
16853s	the uh
16855s	uh the matriarch still
16858s	that's six loaded up on the board right
16862s	though and there's another gardens
16864s	obviously at the bottom of the deck but
16866s	still if there's another way to fish for
16868s	that
16870s	what's that seven 7-6 school teacher
16874s	the card was overstated as it was
16878s	why does it need more another aquatic
16880s	form so we can do gardens again
16884s	not this turn of course but
16888s	oh yeah this turn
16889s	this is his next turn
16891s	yeah this turn is piper's turn
16899s	he's going to finley himself he has
16900s	played uh
16902s	into the deep right so he will have i
16904s	think at least a couple of reduced cards
16906s	here
16912s	does pick up heavy plate shield shatter
16916s	uh which with the discount uh
16918s	from the depths
16920s	uh is just enough even without armor
16922s	black scale brew i think you picked
16924s	there because that is huge zero mana
16926s	outrider x and then brute next turn
16928s	that's a lot of stats on board to at
16929s	least try oh yeah and keep up with what
16931s	letter we'll want to do oh nice plus one
16934s	murloc warrior
16942s	this is just an absurd
16944s	amount of stats anybody
16947s	uh he he pulled the last gardens out
16949s	right
16950s	so he doesn't have any more
16953s	didn't he
16954s	didn't he play in natural gardens last
16956s	turn
16958s	yeah but then he got it immediately
16961s	okay we went off okay so yeah that's
16964s	fair enough then
16965s	i thought he
16967s	yeah maybe he did i'm losing track of
16968s	everything all these dredges are
16970s	confusing my little brain
16976s	also we call both of them gardens the
16979s	initial one and the second
16982s	so
16983s	i think it's our fault in hindsight
16985s	might not have been the best idea
16988s	it's gonna guard it
16993s	one man absolutely
16994s	unit
17003s	he is out of composting now so
17007s	now with these is what he's got but this
17010s	feels like enough because he's almost at
17011s	the bottom of his deck already and
17013s	suddenly just a shield chatter does not
17016s	quite feel good enough if this is one
17018s	wave of what you expect to just be
17021s	endless right because to an extent these
17023s	bottom feeders are endless right because
17025s	they keep just death rattling into more
17028s	yeah
17031s	i have to go for the shield shatter
17034s	and they kill most things then he has
17036s	the black scale and the outrider x yeah
17038s	just black scale bru perfect
17044s	with six from a bottom feeder
17046s	and then there's just air
17049s	aquatic forming to a bottom feeder again
17053s	he wants it
17063s	he's not close is he close to kazakhstan
17065s	being active he's played double in
17066s	balcom
17067s	he shuffled the raid bossa nixia back in
17070s	with finley so that's on the bottom
17072s	somewhere
17073s	yeah
17076s	all the bottom feeders
17082s	oh my even viper's chocolate's like oh
17085s	no i'm gonna get overrun by fish you're
17088s	not gonna oracle this
17092s	hey what do you mean
17093s	oh it's oracle's on the board yeah he
17095s	has two
17097s	it's a four six i got confused he
17099s	moonlit the oracle right
17101s	yeah yeah but it was just buffed so i'm
17103s	used to seeing it as a two-fourth
17106s	my brain didn't register it
17109s	acorns in the deck too
17111s	if if letter wants them of course
17114s	well if they die it's just a 5'4
17116s	squirrel
17120s	the animals are taking over
17126s	[Music]
17136s	one
17137s	manor
17138s	gorlok ravage attack does not seem so
17141s	cool right now does it
17143s	nope
17146s	he's not played mutants right
17148s	at least a letter buff in his hand with
17150s	these big these big bomb feeders might
17153s	feed a mutant
17155s	yeah
17156s	that's the smallest silver lining you'll
17158s	ever see you already played both
17161s	amalgams
17164s	and finley
17167s	viper
17169s	yeah
17171s	definitely played at least one amalgam
17173s	and he has played finley
17175s	has he got the naga brute right off the
17177s	amalgam oh no
17190s	that is just like okay
17191s	we go again
17196s	just a million stats we can't even see
17199s	the numbers but i know they're just big
17202s	let's go with oracle again because he
17204s	did moonlit guidance and got the oracle
17206s	he obviously like gained an additional
17207s	one yeah what's this knuckling again
17210s	well
17211s	i don't know whatever just give
17213s	everything loads of stats probably with
17214s	the way this game's going
17222s	let her just dump in the dire frost wolf
17225s	has the death rattle of course as well
17227s	gonna be extremely difficult
17230s	for viper to deal with ricara doesn't do
17233s	it mutinus doesn't do it
17235s	right now even eat a one one
17244s	forest animals have risen up tj
17247s	what does it even have to be here like
17251s	he only runs one doesn't he
17253s	yeah one brawl oh yeah you're right
17257s	and also uh something that is pretty
17259s	important about this list here from the
17260s	viper he doesn't not that it would
17263s	matter now but not running rankle at all
17265s	either
17266s	we're definitely more prepared for the
17268s	uh you know potential anti-druid style
17271s	as opposed to just having their
17272s	anti-aggro tools in there
17274s	but yeah big win there for letter and
17276s	that looked
17277s	disgusting is my honest word i'm gonna
17279s	use tj because that was the other side
17282s	of of this kind of beast or aggro druid
17284s	where it feels like it's it can play the
17287s	the early game where yeah you play one
17289s	drop on one two drop on two and so on
17291s	but if that doesn't work especially with
17293s	the list letters bring in you can play
17295s	the late game right and it just feels
17297s	endless
17299s	yeah it
17301s	like the only issue that i would have
17303s	seen if that had gone on for a couple
17305s	more turns is
17307s	um
17308s	letta was essentially out of ways to
17310s	like fetch those bottom feeders right uh
17313s	the big ones
17315s	um and still had a good amount of cards
17317s	to actually get through
17319s	uh before he reached the bottom of the
17321s	deck i did have the school teacher in
17323s	the noggling still to find you know
17325s	something
17326s	uh to be able to get it done
17328s	but at that point when you're just
17330s	forcing your opponent to have massive
17332s	removal every single turn like just
17335s	getting through that many waves
17337s	by itself was difficult for the viper so
17340s	that it was just able to get there
17342s	and also as well warriors just not
17343s	really built for that right now even
17345s	though yes we you know we call it
17347s	control warrior it's it feels more like
17349s	value warrior at this point it's running
17351s	kazakhstan it's got nelly in there it's
17353s	got the mutinous sometimes you know with
17355s	bran and stuff like that like there's so
17357s	much value generation in there it it has
17360s	to be swapped out for something and i
17362s	think a lot of it is the removal tools
17363s	when we talk about control warrior
17365s	running zero renko and one brawl uh yeah
17368s	there's the double shield chatter of
17370s	course but it's not quite stacking all
17372s	of the removable air removal available
17374s	to it is it so it is going to suffer
17376s	just a little bit so a great start there
17378s	for letter and then again just yet
17381s	another b struid version to take a look
17383s	at and honestly that looked like the
17384s	most convincing one i've seen so far but
17387s	of course it was a it seemed to be a
17389s	decent match up in the way the game went
17390s	made it look convincing but for now tj
17393s	we are jumping over to a good old naga
17395s	demon hunter and one of if not the just
17398s	strictly most powerful deck in the game
17400s	right now
17402s	yeah
17403s	uh second best deck would have to be the
17406s	fell
17407s	version of
17408s	this deck
17409s	um pretty standard build there's the man
17412s	crick in there which not every player uh
17415s	is is uh
17416s	including in the list um
17419s	but i i just like man crick uh just has
17422s	like that super high upside
17424s	and
17426s	um
17428s	no
17430s	what is this oh no what is it the battle
17433s	fiend i've seen some players play
17435s	playing battlefield as well
17437s	um
17438s	which to be quite honest it does give
17441s	you that early game punch
17443s	but um when you pull it from drexar it
17446s	doesn't give you that immediate power
17449s	uh that you usually look for
17451s	yeah with playing director
17453s	i saw a list i i can't remember the name
17455s	of the card which is stupid because it's
17457s	the list i've been playing recently but
17458s	it's the one mana spell that summons the
17460s	one ones have you seen that
17463s	and they played that instead because uh
17465s	director it doesn't mess or reduce the
17467s	power of eureka but it's a one mana
17470s	summon two one ones on turn one if you
17472s	want it especially in the mirror and
17473s	then later it you know gets better right
17475s	so
17476s	it's that was that was a pretty
17478s	interesting tech that i saw that i quite
17480s	liked the look of because you're not
17482s	pulling a one mana one two or you know a
17484s	one one uh from your director if you get
17486s	to play it early it's like a one drop
17488s	without being a one drop kind of play
17494s	i'm gonna be against warrior again and
17496s	as we know extremely demon hunter
17498s	favorite
17499s	uh
17501s	it can't keep happening
17503s	oh i'm here tj i feel like it's gonna
17505s	happen
17507s	i mean letter has the right opening look
17509s	at this the one drop two drops with the
17511s	weapon he has coin curtis if he wants or
17514s	needs it and then spectral sight to
17517s	refill once he like moves through that
17519s	side of the hand and the curtains as
17521s	well early enough in a matchup like this
17523s	is huge right because that stacking plus
17525s	two attack damage and with the hero
17527s	power is
17529s	huge yeah oh
17532s	and i'm coining out this multi-strike
17534s	every day
17535s	army is too good isn't it
17537s	it is fantastic
17540s	what's filthy about this decklist right
17542s	now it feels like is almost impossible
17545s	to actually just have a bad draw because
17547s	there's so many good cards packed into
17550s	such a short and mana curve that like
17553s	everything just works it all just fits
17555s	together
17556s	yeah
17557s	like in the combo quote-unquote combo
17560s	with steno is
17562s	just naturally playing the spells that
17564s	you'd want to play in the deck anyway
17568s	um
17569s	and so
17569s	you know even having that in your hand
17571s	even like going with steno early on and
17573s	just putting on that pressure
17575s	can sometimes be
17576s	just good so and
17579s	and again i'll just remind you that i
17580s	mentioned last game but the viper isn't
17583s	running rancor so normally i think with
17585s	this card here from letter um the uh uh
17588s	battle one vanguard
17590s	i always pause when i play it early
17592s	against warrior like leading up to their
17594s	turn four but letter knows he doesn't
17597s	need to worry there's no rank or punish
17599s	at all so uh he does well i yeah there's
17601s	no rank or punish at all so he just does
17603s	have to just yeah go full aggression
17606s	here not playing jack far on curve
17608s	though
17609s	i guess noggling rancor
17612s	would be punished
17617s	oh yeah no you're right yeah so it can't
17619s	that's why i apologize like wait a
17620s	minute he plays school teacher wait a
17622s	minute
17623s	or more or less sorry yeah
17627s	it does feel like schoolteacher just
17629s	makes nargling get any spell you want in
17631s	the game
17632s	with the power level of that card though
17634s	yeah
17636s	look at that you could just get rancor
17638s	and brawls
17640s	yeah um and i think this is why he held
17642s	on the director last turn um because
17644s	this is sort of a less powerful load
17647s	um
17648s	and now he can
17650s	bait out the removal
17652s	and
17653s	then play for it
17655s	and the curve fits because this also
17656s	allows very cleanly letter to just keep
17659s	adding to the curtis rush minions and
17661s	don't get me wrong a lot of the time
17663s	against warrior the rush minions either
17665s	survive and hit phase which is nice but
17667s	most of the time they do get cleaned up
17670s	on the warriors turn but still why not
17672s	make a smooth curve and make them as
17674s	threatening as possible
17676s	yeah
17679s	and it just opens up spectral chaos
17681s	strike chaos strike it's like so much
17685s	damage
17686s	it is the goods
17688s	uh the viper getting through it quite
17690s	well um but to take a lot of damage
17693s	in this early game so
17695s	uh is voting around that 20 health mark
17698s	uh at the moment
17701s	i wonder if let's actually gonna wait
17704s	for curtis
17705s	yeah he could just like battle swan
17707s	you know naga hero power whatever
17710s	build the ball he's just seen shield
17711s	chatter right so
17713s	okay we go again sure because the
17715s	problem with weight uh with playing
17717s	curtis now you don't get to hear a power
17719s	phase for two right so if he does it
17721s	this way he's pushing damage every
17724s	single turn
17731s	big choices here though this
17733s	might be the time to just
17735s	play nelly and just say it's going to be
17738s	enough
17742s	don't think committing shield slams to
17744s	these minions is a way to win at this
17746s	point from viper
17747s	no
17750s	um
17752s	what's the other option it's a lot of
17755s	damage to leave on board you could go
17757s	like brand school teacher
17761s	but then it's past you don't get to play
17763s	the nagalings
17764s	no but you can set up for a powerful
17767s	turn next turn
17769s	you'd essentially be looking for
17774s	what would you even be looking for yeah
17775s	i don't know
17777s	honestly shield blocks or something you
17780s	know what i mean like yeah she'll block
17782s	it's just armor and card draw to get
17784s	more removal i suppose he's gonna go for
17786s	ricara though which is a substantial
17788s	amount of armor which is nice gets the
17790s	weapon online start killing off these
17792s	minions but again it's just
17794s	now this it's just harder and harder for
17797s	viper to gain armor because even
17798s	stacking a bit from the hero power won't
17800s	be enough so it's going to be quite
17802s	reliant i would say on just that 10
17804s	armor for the majority of the game
17807s	yeah
17812s	tj it's just so much damage it's a
17814s	simple weapon but it gets the job done
17818s	and i like how he's he's holding on to
17820s	this curtis
17821s	um because he he's putting on enough
17825s	pressure by
17826s	like by itself with the minions
17828s	and then if he can play curtis with
17830s	eight nine mana and actually be able to
17832s	attack with minions on the same turn
17833s	he's just netting more damage
17835s	so anybody i like the lot and again i
17838s	think the complete lack of fear from a
17841s	renko is huge in this plan right like
17844s	because again this board just would give
17846s	viper a lot of armor but doesn't have to
17848s	worry about it i think that was provoked
17850s	on the nargling there
17853s	okay
17854s	a little bit unfortunate for the viper
17856s	that he does not have a coin because a
17858s	raid boss inixia plus provoke is always
17860s	a nice combo
17862s	yeah this still cleans up uh a good
17865s	chunk of the board just leaving the one
17866s	one up
17868s	but i do think this is the situation
17870s	that um vladim was looking for to
17872s	actually play curtris
17874s	because gets to net a little bit more
17875s	damage with it actually gets the max
17878s	from it because we'll also
17880s	be able to fit in
17883s	um
17885s	here apart from the rush
17888s	yeah he would have got two hero powers
17889s	anyway but he does get to clear right
17891s	because the woman lived he could always
17893s	hear a power attack face hero power but
17895s	this just allows him to push that little
17897s	bit more damage so and it all stacks up
17899s	you can see how important uh letter has
17902s	has shown that just this constant
17904s	pushing of damage don't let uh you know
17906s	the viper gain like you know 20 30 plus
17908s	armor at any given time
17910s	yeah
17913s	now like
17914s	the second
17916s	that lady slitheno is drawn
17919s	things are gonna happen tj i imagine
17921s	soon it's going to be bone glazed for
17923s	letter to start pushing and get the
17925s	dredge and then you look at like ladies
17928s	atheno fell barrage fell barrage
17930s	multi-strike chaos strike and the damage
17933s	gets so absurd
17938s	it's happening again isn't it raven
17942s	i hope so
17943s	i hope i have we seen i i'll confess
17946s	i've not because i've been taking some
17948s	breaks we haven't we haven't we haven't
17950s	seen warrior winning this match up on
17951s	stream it's not been on stream right
17953s	yeah okay i didn't think it would but i
17955s	didn't want to say we definitely haven't
17956s	because i've not watched every single
17958s	game
17961s	but not that i've seen tj everyone
17963s	laughed at me and now they're wrong
17977s	i think this is worth a uh fel barrage
17979s	here tj just to get rid of the school
17981s	teacher and just keep pushing
17984s	uh probably god look at the damage still
17987s	left in the deck
17988s	yeah still missing the steno but yeah
17991s	still double like that that's just all
17994s	damage and it's all just
17996s	uh i guess he knows those are on the
17998s	bottom of the deck though which is
18000s	yeah
18001s	with the double spectral
18003s	chaos stripe that's his deck
18005s	yeah he's drawn everything and i i do
18007s	like this because i think this one one
18009s	is actually a giant pain for viper you
18011s	probably will have to just hero power it
18013s	right
18014s	oh is that frozen buckle on the nargling
18016s	with bran
18017s	okay uh yes
18019s	okay
18023s	i for now gonna fish for a
18031s	oh is he gonna solo the knuckling
18035s	we spoke too soon
18037s	oh
18038s	it's okay the way you think about this
18041s	letter is the more times he plays frozen
18043s	butler the more versions of
18046s	the armory
18047s	loses he's gonna lose 15 armor oh no 20
18052s	armor
18054s	or the 10 mana fury though i still think
18056s	letter can get through this that's how
18058s	the amount of damage is i don't think he
18060s	can anymore
18061s	faith
18062s	he essentially gained 25 life that turn
18066s	oh he gets liteno though that basically
18068s	clears the ball that's right
18070s	i mean he doesn't have to play this
18072s	thing so you have puffer
18075s	but know ever
18082s	wait
18086s	what then i'll ever bet if he goes back
18087s	to sotheno fury fury multi-strike and
18090s	then fell barrage at the end
18096s	i mean you can't now because he played
18097s	chaos strike but i think that was a lot
18100s	of attacks
18108s	certainly not enough and i don't think
18109s	he really wants to
18111s	sink
18113s	damage until he knows exactly how much
18116s	he's gonna need
18118s	and also
18119s	in the world where you can do 47 he
18122s	won't need to deal 47 right because of
18124s	the the bug
18131s	a good enough job there clearing up the
18133s	majority
18135s	yeah and i do think he needed to kill
18137s	the brand because he knows that there's
18138s	still one oh my gosh
18140s	all right
18141s	that's me i told you i told you the more
18144s	the more frozen buckler gets played the
18146s	more armor they lose next turn that's
18148s	the mindset you need in this game is
18150s	letter
18152s	oh no mutinous
18154s	there's only three cards left in deck
18156s	lady steno is
18160s	all of them right it's prediction
18162s	prediction
18165s	oh i don't know the last card i'll be
18167s	honest
18169s	yeah
18171s	i'm not gonna go for it though
18174s	because he doesn't play the
18177s	no he doesn't play the treasure guards
18179s	oh my
18181s	look at what they have to do to mimic a
18184s	fraction of demon hunter's power it's
18188s	a hundred frozen bucklers
18191s	oh there was a treasure guard
18195s	yeah
18196s	yeah i don't think he has enough damage
18198s	to get there now
18199s	unless he can get
18202s	that's one way to find out tj play all
18204s	of your cards
18207s	so probably has to perdition the the
18209s	five health minions right
18213s	to make oh because i think he needs to
18215s	no i can't do this but this cleans up
18217s	the the
18219s	he needs to swing face so he has to do
18221s	this right so uh
18223s	zlatano will kill off the two taunts
18226s	yeah
18229s	a bit painful and and you know you see
18230s	how much damage has effectively been
18233s	missed not due to letters fault of
18235s	course but there but just due down which
18237s	he has to put through there and the
18239s	viper
18240s	pains me to say gets a win with the
18242s	warrior but wow did he have to work for
18245s	it tj what was that like five or six
18248s	frozen bucklers played that game
18250s	effectively from the narglings and the
18252s	natural ones
18253s	well yeah he had one natural one and
18255s	then essentially had five from the
18258s	nagalangs because it was uh
18260s	um
18262s	two played that were brand
18264s	and then uh
18266s	one played that was not brand uh because
18268s	the brand had died at that point so
18271s	25 what like
18274s	net armor
18276s	um after everything's said and done so
18280s	quite insane
18282s	and
18283s	you know that is the weakness of demon
18285s	hunter is that they do have what five
18287s	frozen booklets
18290s	exactly yeah five frozen bucklers is the
18292s	weakness yeah that's all you have to do
18294s	guys easy win now um yeah so it's um
18297s	it's definitely tough there to to get
18299s	through that much health but i do think
18301s	you know the viper clearly were one he
18303s	made those choices right he picked the
18305s	zola up as well off the discover which
18307s	was absolutely huge allowed him to get
18309s	more of those frozen booklet narglings
18312s	and uh he he grabbed himself a win there
18314s	big win as well with that warrior as he
18316s	only has hunter and druid left to go up
18317s	against demon unto and rogue and as
18320s	suddenly i think uh the the matchups get
18323s	a little bit more questionable i think
18325s	as you mentioned right at the start tj i
18327s	feel like it's gonna come down to
18329s	whether the druid can win for the viper
18332s	yeah that's
18334s	sort of what we talked about um
18336s	hunter
18338s	could have a tough time uh but i think
18341s	you know when you're talking about these
18342s	sort of board-based aggressive decks um
18346s	it's
18347s	it
18348s	that's kind of where quest hunter shines
18350s	um especially since the board-based
18352s	decks right now
18354s	are
18355s	aren't quite at the power level as like
18357s	the hyper aggregates that we saw sort of
18359s	at the end of rotation
18361s	um in the previous set uh they can't
18363s	just race you and and blaze past you
18365s	demon hunter to an extent
18367s	um but it requires them to have like the
18369s	lady steno uh very early on into the
18372s	game in order to be able to do that so
18375s	um we'll see uh the viper's gonna go
18377s	ahead and play the druid now
18379s	taking a look at it does have the double
18381s	doomsayer
18383s	uh no spamming arcanist
18387s	quite a lot of cheap cards to be honest
18390s	um yeah with the
18392s	uh you know druid of the wreath
18395s	brief
18396s	wreath what is this christmas
18398s	um
18400s	just leaked the december expansion card
18403s	tj
18404s	he had the trick of the wreath
18407s	it's the same exact card it just
18409s	a christmas themed
18412s	yeah
18413s	um but yeah the double doomsayer as well
18416s	as the uh the druids of the reefs of
18419s	course
18420s	are gonna be what viper's probably
18422s	relying on at least early on we've seen
18424s	the power already during this tournament
18425s	of just uh dropping down like double
18427s	doomsayer and telling your opponent yeah
18429s	just put 14 into this if you want to
18431s	keep your board like that gives the
18433s	druid generally so much more time to get
18436s	to that ramp to get to goff and to get
18438s	to their mainly scale of an ix here as
18440s	well i think that's the always the key
18441s	card you've got to look out for when
18442s	you're fighting back against a at least
18445s	potentially board-based aggro deck
18448s	yeah
18449s	oh is that i know are you at the top
18451s	there tj
18454s	it's a lot of ramp and lettuce hand is
18456s	not fantastic
18457s	at the moment
18459s	multi-strike doesn't really make much
18460s	better this is one of those matchups
18461s	where you just want to have
18464s	minions
18465s	in the early game
18470s	yeah
18472s	just some here powers
18474s	juice up that curtress
18483s	moonlight not too
18485s	bad could use it to go fishing for uh
18488s	some kind of anti-aggro tool but it's
18490s	going to use the coin up instead to go
18492s	for that wild growth
18494s	gives him a little bit more freedom and
18496s	options next to him
18499s	yeah also has the uh possibility to pick
18501s	up an innervate which would let him
18503s	nourish
18505s	to keep that ramp going
18508s	that's going to play a 1-5 on turn three
18511s	i mean i don't blame him i think it's
18513s	correct but it still hurts to see
18520s	yellow
18524s	i want some crystals
18526s	give me them crystals
18529s	give me
18531s	give me give me man
18534s	not looking too bad i imagine he's gonna
18536s	ramp first of course it's generally the
18538s	go-to gonna followed up with that
18539s	moonlit guidance as well
18543s	at this stage oh well
18546s	good
18548s	that seems good
18551s	it got
18554s	i think like
18557s	oh
18558s	i've talked a bit about urgent scales
18560s	and how important it's been but i think
18561s	with this extremely slow opening from
18564s	letter i think the viper should just be
18566s	super happy and just pick up guff while
18568s	he can and get it active there's
18570s	currently just a one five on the board
18574s	is everything about
18576s	raid boss and nyxia
18578s	surely not you ramp for crystals again
18581s	next turn and then you play raid boss
18583s	onyxia then you follow that up with a
18585s	miracle growth
18587s	but the taunt would be so small from the
18589s	miracle growth right
18592s	the viper that is
18593s	the unhappiest i've seen at anyone
18597s	when they've been offered guff
18599s	i know
18603s	i think the problem with relying on raid
18605s	boss is the card we've just seen hit the
18606s	board now which is the airport for fifth
18608s	strike like it just deals with all of
18610s	the two twos and then like demon until
18612s	more than has the ability to deal with
18613s	it and 88 on the board
18617s	this is just gas
18621s	from the viper he's got everything he
18623s	needs
18626s	okay who does letter he has bone glaive
18630s	bone glaive and now curtris um
18636s	and just straight burn
18641s	puffer fist
18643s	yeah he's probably ready for a um a
18645s	scale of iniquity or a
18648s	raid boss and it's here right just wants
18650s	to guarantee that he can just sweep
18653s	oh yeah away the two ones
18660s	uh the scale here does make the naga
18663s	giant cheaper
18666s	playable this turn is off
18670s	yeah true
18673s	but it would be an 88 and an 80. they
18675s	would literally be nearly the exact same
18677s	thing
18679s	except this 88 is immune
18690s	so there is well the
18693s	buffer fist multi-strike
18698s	looks at a glance decent
18715s	but also let's i'm just going to throw
18717s	this out there tj
18719s	let it just go's face
18727s	it's going to forgo the multi strike and
18729s	just leave
18732s	yeah
18733s	because he could have multi-strike
18734s	instead right and actually killed the
18736s	onixi this turn as well but yeah he's
18738s	choosing to leave it
18742s	multi-strike
18744s	especially later on combined with like
18747s	the dread prison glaive can be
18750s	massive amounts of damage if you can get
18751s	the honorable kill
18753s	and go face
18754s	yeah
18757s	but this is a ton of pressure oh my gosh
18761s	oh my gosh
18772s	those are five fours
18776s	it's just nothing right
18779s	yeah yeah just dead is curtis we're only
18782s	on fives as well so if he played
18785s	commentaries it would have killed a99
18789s	left yeah with casual three eights on
18792s	the board alive
18794s	technically but
18796s	what they have done you know done enough
18798s	right yeah yeah okay the viper
18802s	getting a win with the druid against the
18804s	demon hunter as well so
18806s	uh honestly for me i think the viper's
18808s	gonna be feeling very confident not only
18810s	because he's too one-open well yeah you
18812s	probably feel more confident because of
18814s	that but because he just has quest
18816s	hunter now against this demon hunter
18818s	which again is you know winnable match
18820s	up for the hunter
18822s	just the hunter there you go um and then
18824s	versus the rogue as well i mean i we saw
18826s	it win on stream earlier on and i do
18828s	think the rogue is a very or fairly
18830s	predictable deck i think as usual you're
18833s	afraid of the stealth
18836s	from the rogue but other than that i
18837s	think quest hunter is more than capable
18840s	of just dealing with
18841s	pretty much all the minions that rogue
18843s	has to offer
18845s	yes
18848s	rogue has um seemed good at times uh
18852s	in the
18853s	uh times that we've seen it
18855s	over the course of the weekend but it's
18857s	also felt pretty lackluster
18860s	as well um where sometimes you look at
18862s	certain hands and you're like
18864s	this is an aggro deck
18867s	just not really doing much
18869s	um
18871s	i think a lot of it relies on just for
18873s	me at least from when i've played and
18874s	played against like prep vessel and with
18878s	then you know the follow-up of some kind
18880s	of dredge
18881s	feels great and that's where it's strong
18883s	anything other than that it just feels
18886s	like a aggro deck that is almost too
18888s	fair right at least in my experience
18892s	yeah um like if you can if you coin prep
18895s	vessel into swordfish
18898s	um like you're cooking
18901s	uh
18903s	that's quite the combination
18905s	and also just like you know krabatoa in
18908s	a vacuum is powerful uh hook tusk
18911s	can be incredibly potent
18914s	um
18915s	uh especially with the
18918s	in in two scenarios and
18920s	taking a minion and
18921s	uh taking cards from your opponent's
18923s	hand
18924s	um haven't seen the
18926s	take cards from your opponent's deck as
18927s	much
18929s	but um
18931s	there there are certain synergies that
18932s	work really well together
18935s	but the whole deck in itself
18938s	is not like one big ball of synergy
18941s	there's little bits of synergy
18943s	packed in here or there
18945s	um
18946s	it doesn't quite feel as cohesive as d
18948s	minor i guess is what i'm trying to say
18950s	yeah when i was saying earlier where it
18951s	feels like every opening hand or at
18954s	least most of the time you feel good as
18956s	demon hunter that is definitely not the
18958s	case with this pirate rogue at all uh
18961s	yeah of course there'll be mulligan in
18962s	for for more of the uh the on curve
18964s	plays but yeah sometimes you just get
18967s	you know krabatoa and you're opening
18969s	hand mutinous for example in this list
18971s	as well uh even the uh asheran vessel
18975s	without a prep is a very slow card like
18978s	playing that without prep against say
18980s	quest hunter feels like you've just
18983s	played five mana pass a turn do nothing
18985s	right because it's not as if the quest
18987s	hunter can even interact with the the
18989s	stealth minions so it's not as if you
18992s	say okay well if i play these they might
18994s	use damage on the minions instead and i
18996s	buy me the time i need well no that
18998s	cannot happen so we'll have to see i do
19001s	think the pressure is definitely on
19002s	letter here though and he uh of course
19005s	has to get a win with this to carry on
19007s	with the series and hopefully he can go
19008s	to that 7-0 victory
19015s	yeah and this makes sense right like let
19017s	even keeping prep in a deck that does
19019s	not run that many spells
19024s	nope
19026s	it's
19028s	vessel
19030s	and gone fishing
19032s	which is a one minute spell by the way
19035s	yeah
19037s	uh
19038s	oh and shadow steps but
19040s	yeah which is a zero mana spell by the
19043s	way
19044s	the old prep step
19050s	he does have a
19052s	decent opening hand especially because
19053s	he's on the coin you can coin out
19054s	swordfish and then follow up from there
19059s	ooh
19063s	i hate making calls like this when i'm
19065s	playing hunter me and like turn to do
19068s	you want beast okay tavis or not well i
19070s	don't know yet can you come back later
19071s	and ask you know that's all i think so i
19074s	might not need tavis
19075s	[Music]
19078s	he's just working out like how the quest
19080s	progress is gonna work
19082s	um
19086s	because you want tavish like
19088s	right at the second quest completion
19090s	mark
19096s	does pick it however i mean he does have
19099s	the
19104s	oh my god treasure guard
19107s	yeah i want to say terror guard but does
19109s	have the treasure guard
19111s	and leather's just going to get the uh
19113s	swordfish rolling here
19115s	that face okay no he didn't whip on
19117s	pirates ooh vessel but it means that
19121s	his swordfish
19122s	but he does get such a tiny beak
19127s	he does get to prep vessel which is the
19130s	whole reason
19131s	he kept prep
19133s	right
19134s	yeah but then he doesn't have a dredge
19137s	just draw one
19139s	at some point it's fine
19141s	easy peasy i picked the courier
19148s	oh viper seems happy they
19152s	off the top
19154s	now if you think about tj if that weapon
19156s	was only a two attack it wouldn't be as
19157s	big a loss
19162s	you know what you're absolutely right
19166s	although the courier does not lose its
19168s	stats it's a 4-5 that's still going to
19170s	contest this viper
19178s	i'll say treasure guard arcane shot
19181s	absolutely reasonable here
19184s	yeah it does
19186s	the queens
19188s	or treasure guard wouldn't pray both
19190s	both work
19191s	you keep won't pray for peace and shot
19194s	right
19194s	if you can yeah i would always prefer to
19197s	use arcane shot if the kill is clean
19199s	anyway
19201s	yeah
19201s	unless you like absolutely need every
19203s	bit of face damage that you possibly can
19205s	yeah yeah that's uh yeah yeah in the
19207s	immediate
19208s	and don't have a piercing shot in hand
19210s	we're putting a lot of factors into this
19211s	if watts
19214s	yeah if your opponent is on exactly two
19217s	health and you have an arcane shot and a
19219s	wound prey you use the arcane shot
19222s	yeah
19224s	oh hench clan burglar
19228s	classic
19231s	bootstrap sunken here
19233s	don't think it's super relevant
19236s	here just because
19239s	there's not many minions
19241s	yeah i mean with the viper almost
19243s	certainly just be for exactly tavish
19245s	right just get rid of the 7-7 as a tempo
19248s	play and letter is running a natural one
19250s	in his list as well
19252s	yeah which
19254s	just kind of goes against picking it as
19256s	well if tavish is your only target and
19258s	tavis is still a little bit of ways away
19260s	you don't want to strand your other
19261s	second year maybe
19263s	i just like catch climb burglar because
19264s	i feel like leda needs some sort of x
19266s	factor here
19274s	but it looks like the viper could just
19276s	run away with this one with tavis lined
19278s	up yeah
19279s	and he's doing this very well right he's
19281s	just propped the aimed hero power which
19284s	is fine and then he'll play tavish and
19287s	then go from there
19289s	yeah
19291s	okay well there's vessel what
19295s	what do i wouldn't just use the prep
19298s	hey he has no follow-up right he's got
19301s	nothing for two minutes dagger
19303s	dagger i think it's more likely he tries
19306s	to hench clan for like trekking or
19308s	something right or you know something to
19311s	fish the other stealth minions out
19316s	or at least it gives him an option to go
19318s	a little bit more adventurous with his
19320s	picks if he holds the prep
19324s	explosive oh it's got to be emergency
19327s	maneuvers right
19329s	it's so strong
19333s	with the uh
19335s	treasure guard yeah
19337s	or even the water line
19339s	he has the spell damage
19341s	whatever
19343s	it's just strong i've as soon as this
19345s	has been out and i've been playing more
19347s	and more quest hunter i find my natural
19350s	go-to's
19351s	being exactly explosive emergency
19354s	maneuvers
19356s	as long as i have a minion on the board
19357s	obviously or i have a minion to play but
19360s	yeah i feel like it's so strong it
19361s	doesn't like vibe it's gone for snakes
19362s	so once the wider board
19367s	rubber toe is gonna hit the board now as
19369s	well
19372s	little snippety snap
19385s	gosh it's just gonna be so hard for him
19387s	to do it
19391s	he's got no damage sunk
19394s	into the viper
19396s	and uh we're going to be reaching quest
19398s	completion soon
19399s	um i guess hook tusk
19402s	to maybe steel tavish
19405s	could be an option i cannot believe
19408s	the viper would let that happen right
19411s	yeah that's yeah
19414s	but maybe he's forced into a situation
19416s	where there's too much pressure on board
19417s	but he's got that that protection yeah
19420s	of the explosive um
19423s	i honestly think unless you are
19425s	extremely behind
19428s	there should never be a reason that
19430s	tavis is held in your hand against any
19432s	deck that can even
19434s	potentially do something against it
19435s	being in your hand right like there's
19438s	almost no reason you can even just wait
19440s	a turn or two if you have to as long as
19442s	you're not far behind and i think the
19444s	viper is far ahead right now so i think
19446s	there's just zero reason for him to risk
19448s	that
19450s	well he could just complete tavish this
19452s	turn and then hook tus is not an option
19458s	true yeah one way i'll do nevermind he
19459s	can't
19460s	no i can't this is only second quest oh
19463s	yeah this is like it's a hero yeah what
19465s	are you on about tj
19467s	i don't know
19468s	just ignore me it's just paying
19470s	attention
19472s	i was yeah 100 this is down to zero so
19475s	we just start get to he is starting
19479s	uh to roll these hero powers now
19484s	unless letter just dies before that
19486s	i mean that's
19488s	still a chance right
19499s	i wonder
19503s	he's going to need some help from hench
19505s	clan
19510s	rep
19511s	[Music]
19515s	yeah
19516s	where we're at
19518s	sure
19521s	about as good as it's gonna get isn't it
19524s	that's the only one that really made
19525s	much sense
19527s	because he's gonna take
19529s	he tanks this wait what's going on
19536s	who wants to swing first if he's gonna
19538s	swing
19539s	yeah so that's
19542s	seven damage guaranteed because of the
19544s	explosive right
19547s	yeah
19549s	oh wait
19551s	well now we get the test to see how good
19553s	the viper is at rolling hoofa the uh
19555s	most key skill of being a hunter player
19566s	such a tricky spot and this is kind of
19569s	what we said right like yeah the early
19570s	game wasn't the best for letter but
19573s	with the help of the viper from the
19575s	viper uh
19577s	he really got to just be comfortable so
19579s	far in this game and that doesn't look
19581s	like it's really gonna end
19584s	yep gets to play the
19586s	tavish
19587s	perfect
19588s	yeah there's 10 damage on board but
19590s	guess what
19592s	those minions are not getting to hit the
19594s	face this game oh no
19596s	it's even worse tj
19600s	stealth decided to show up straight into
19602s	an improved explosive trap
19605s	oh no
19610s	i've never seen someone
19613s	as stressed as the viper is
19615s	that he's winning so much
19618s	i know
19625s	i think you just full trait
19628s	no you can't you don't know damage
19632s	i think he kills the tavish and just
19635s	plays hook tusk
19638s	yeah it
19639s	would take the
19641s	one card in hand
19643s	i mean yeah
19645s	it's one less animal companion right
19647s	like i honestly think that's the thing
19649s	that
19650s	you take the most oh it's going to steal
19651s	the tavis okay and then take the minion
19654s	yeah
19656s	so just didn't know
19659s	uh yeah i mean
19661s	let has to do something risky doesn't he
19663s	has to make a big play and just hope it
19665s	pays off he's got a lot of damage on
19667s	board he has piercing shot he's got
19668s	puffer fist as well
19673s	oh yeah oh no i'm having the flashbacks
19679s	oh you can just drag a base on hover
19684s	let's just never mind escape that's just
19685s	lethal now and by the viper
19688s	and look at that
19691s	the pop off is real and understandably
19693s	so i think the viper
19695s	could well have been going into this
19697s	series feeling just a little bit worried
19699s	uh but yeah impressive play overall kept
19702s	a cool head throughout the whole series
19704s	and he takes the victory over letter and
19706s	that puts him tj at a 7-0 score like
19711s	he's
19712s	so likely i don't say he will be through
19714s	to top 16 because i never like saying
19716s	that until it happens but it's so likely
19719s	he's going to be safe for top 16 at this
19721s	point that he's going to be uh feeling
19723s	pretty excited for that for the next
19724s	round
19726s	who the viper
19729s	is guaranteed 7-0 is guaranteed
19732s	i still never like saying it
19734s	until
19736s	okay the bracket i don't like committing
19738s	okay
19739s	that's my rule i don't make the bracket
19742s	i don't control the admin side until the
19744s	bracket is pushed i don't like point
19746s	there you go
19748s	that's i'm okay with this tj there are
19750s	it gives us a little bit of wiggle room
19752s	just in case
19754s	just in case all right cover your bases
19756s	i like it yeah and letta honestly blood
19758s	is not looking bad for
19761s	um top 16 as well um even with 6-1 he
19764s	still has a chance if he loses right he
19766s	could just win and then he's in or in
19768s	raven's world 99.9 percent chance
19772s	uh but it even finishes 6-2 with a 6-0
19774s	start he's probably the most likely
19775s	player uh to get those tie breakers
19777s	because that's like the best possible
19779s	way you can get two losses is by
19781s	starting 6-0 because then your tie
19782s	breakers on average are going to be
19783s	better um
19785s	so
19786s	still a disappointing loss just because
19788s	you know that
19790s	letting the druid get across and you
19792s	know not picking up wins
19794s	with the uh the demon hunter it even
19796s	like feel good with what your line is
19798s	supposed to do
19799s	it genuinely feel like it felt like
19801s	sorry these things started to fall apart
19803s	with the warrior game because even you
19804s	were saying oh no the demon is going to
19807s	win again but then you know the viper
19809s	managed to create a way to just be so
19811s	defensive the damage just was not there
19813s	so a definitely a rough series for
19815s	letter but he's been doing this a long
19816s	time right he can recover the biggest
19818s	difference now is letter's just going to
19820s	be going into round eight with just a
19822s	little bit more pressure right like
19823s	he'll just feel that extra pressure okay
19825s	let me just win round eight and then
19827s	i'll be feeling good again and that's
19828s	fine uh but that was this uh this match
19831s	here the starting match for round number
19833s	seven uh we are going to go to a quick
19835s	break while we get ready with some more
19836s	coverage from round seven so don't go
19838s	anywhere and we'll be right back
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20100s	welcome back everyone we have got some
20102s	more coverage for you from around number
20105s	seven energy is currently lost voyaging
20108s	in the sunken city so uh i will be
20110s	kicking us off at least for this one but
20112s	the match we are going to jump into i
20113s	believe is game four of uh neji boston
20116s	and levick
20118s	and we are going to be going into a
20119s	pretty spicy one as well because i
20121s	believe it is going to be
20124s	the uh the mage let me just triple check
20127s	uh yeah it's gonna be the mage versus
20128s	the druid uh the first two games uh were
20131s	piled in taking a victory over demon
20133s	hunter and then warrior taking a victory
20135s	over the mage we're just about to see
20137s	against the naga mage uh in game three i
20140s	believe the uh the sherman took a
20142s	victory over the druid so uh we will see
20145s	how this goes as levick starts to try
20147s	and fight back uh kicking it off with
20149s	his mage against the druid from uh from
20153s	boston so let's have a look at what
20155s	those decks look like it's gonna be the
20157s	most standard ramp druid i feel like we
20159s	are getting a good mix of the uh the
20161s	aggro druid and ramp on stream both
20164s	decks having their strong victories and
20166s	some struggles as well depending on
20168s	their matchups
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20172s	oh you've returned welcome back yes i am
20175s	back to find any cool fish
20177s	uh yes weren't snorkeling um
20182s	but yeah we are gonna be going we are
20184s	gonna be going into that game before and
20185s	i believe at geo we are gonna start with
20187s	a naga mage on one side here so always
20190s	excited to see how uh that can perform
20192s	especially because it's going up against
20194s	druid uh boston uh does just have his uh
20197s	ramp druid left to take a win with but
20200s	we have seen it you know druid i think
20201s	it's fair to say especially since the
20203s	patch has it's a lot harder to you don't
20206s	feel quite as powerful right it does
20208s	feel like he has to work a little bit
20210s	more for these wins
20212s	yeah and a lot of druids these days they
20214s	have to make room for anti-aggro cards
20217s	like spammy organist either doomsayer or
20219s	druid of the reef or dozen kelp keeper
20222s	and it feels like it takes so much space
20224s	these days somehow more often i'm seeing
20226s	draws that are lacking the ramp lacking
20229s	the card draw and maybe you hit the
20230s	wrong half of the deck and there was
20232s	already i would say even before the
20234s	nerfs to drew it a bit of a problem
20236s	dealing with mage because as early as
20239s	turn five or turn six naga mage can just
20241s	go so wide on board put enough stats
20243s	together that a single scale of enyxia
20245s	can't kill everything and if you're not
20247s	able to get rid of everything even
20249s	leaving up a single school teacher can
20251s	be too much damage and uh when they do
20254s	go white on board there's often spidlash
20256s	siren there's uh vicious lithosphere so
20258s	many must kill cards that the damage
20261s	across a couple turns is just too much i
20263s	think one of the biggest problems uh
20265s	that you have facing mage when they do
20267s	have their pop-off turn for at least a
20269s	good chunk of decks is
20271s	so many of the minions they're not like
20273s	small minions that you can just clear
20274s	off no problem they have like relatively
20277s	high health like four and above right
20279s	and that takes like significant kill
20281s	power that a lot of decks just simply do
20283s	not have and looking at this list here
20286s	is there anything that really sticks out
20287s	to you as any sort of differences from
20290s	levick
20291s	yeah i guess the one of viper is not
20293s	something standard but a pretty common
20295s	inclusion still um really helps with the
20298s	paladin matchup in particular but can be
20300s	useful against warriors demon hunters
20302s	etc he's running the one of ignite which
20305s	has become pretty standard and i do kind
20307s	of like only running one unless you're
20309s	trying to beat up on warrior in specific
20312s	right well let's get into it now as i
20314s	said game number four
20317s	both these players at five and one going
20319s	into this round so uh this is a little
20322s	bit less of the situation we just spoke
20324s	about with uh uh with letter in that a
20327s	loss when you are six so in round seven
20330s	is a lot less of a problem than a loss
20332s	here for one of these players so it's
20334s	still a lot on the line at this
20335s	five-on-one score right now
20338s	rolevik it is a beautiful opening hand
20340s	honestly double gifts of azshara just
20342s	enough to keep cycling and he's almost
20344s	certain to see a spider siren by the
20346s	time turn five rolls around and
20349s	if you're able to also hit a one drop
20351s	naga or school teacher in the meantime
20353s	then you can pop off as soon as possible
20355s	and the earlier you go off the better
20358s	against druid
20359s	another spell coiler looks pretty
20361s	tempting
20363s	yeah we we spoke i think yesterday when
20366s	we were casting this you were talking
20367s	about the sheer power of flurry on the
20369s	pop-off turns because it's zero mana
20371s	gain mana right so it's just free manner
20373s	um how often does it become a problem
20376s	actually against druid if like how often
20379s	is there nothing too flurry on say say
20381s	you turn four or five
20383s	um
20384s	pretty often i would say but it's not a
20387s	problem you have ways to continue your
20388s	train anyway because oh there's a siren
20391s	um a lot of the time you also have board
20393s	space as a limiting factor of your
20395s	pop-off in naga mage and even if you
20398s	don't have the big mana gain from flurry
20400s	you can still end up filling your board
20402s	and the flurry is still useful for the
20404s	answering turns for example if they come
20407s	back and have uh even a geriatric carbon
20410s	or a dosing kelp keeper left on board
20413s	after it takes a value trade using
20415s	flurry to freeze those in place and take
20417s	up board spaces so that their scale of
20419s	anexia doesn't get full value is a very
20422s	important thing in the in this matchup
20425s	the spell curl is going to come down now
20426s	for more this home
20430s	resting choice
20433s	hyphen mana looks like the most obvious
20436s	but you do have to just at least glance
20439s	at mass polymorph right
20442s	you do but i think it's a bit too
20444s	expensive and you generally will find
20446s	yourself ahead on board as mh i i think
20448s	there's even more consideration to
20450s	seafloor getaway sorry gateway
20452s	it has the chance to get your amalgam
20455s	and discount that but um i think he
20458s	already did play one amalgam early on so
20461s	there's no chance to like draw both of
20462s	them and get the full discounts which is
20465s	one of the best ways but he even
20467s	pre-pings his spell coiler looking to
20469s	get the honorable kill with siphon mana
20471s	next turn because currently levick
20473s	cannot pop off on turn five he doesn't
20475s	have a cheap naga uh to pair with the
20478s	spidlash
20480s	yeah really a
20482s	really nice play actually just showing
20484s	that you know he's keeping a cool head
20486s	in this series considering he is 2-1
20488s	down but yeah pretty nice overall
20490s	getting the
20491s	diaper mana even able to hit that first
20494s	flame beforehand as well
20496s	yeah true but a bit of a shake of the
20497s	head from levick because he hits again
20500s	uh three mana or higher naga which means
20503s	he has to wait yet another turn before
20504s	going off the spite lash and naji's
20506s	already all the way up to 10 mana here
20510s	going even higher with guff and that
20513s	means that there is the potential to
20515s	answer even a full spike lash board but
20516s	if levick is starting off with spy lash
20518s	means he's drawn a cheap naga and there
20520s	we go
20521s	yeah i was gonna say the fact that that
20522s	was uh you can tell a player has played
20525s	a lot of this deck when they just
20527s	instantly say perfect let's go and just
20530s	just lock it all in they know what to do
20533s	i was going to start talking about
20534s	school teacher and how powerful the
20536s	nagaling is regardless of the spell it
20538s	gets but more importantly being a
20540s	generated one mana naga is such a big
20543s	deal in this deck but he did get the um
20545s	the other one drop instead and he's
20548s	instantly made a very very strong and
20550s	threatening board indeed
20552s	that's right did unfortunately get
20554s	double minion from his spring water but
20556s	the natural refresh of just this fight
20558s	lash siren means he can keep the train
20560s	going but here we are we've hit the
20562s	board space limit and so lavik has to
20564s	start shooting his own minions to make
20566s	space here and
20568s	actually shoots away a slither spear
20569s	which i'm honestly surprised but that
20572s	first um first flame only had one spell
20574s	damage on it and he needed to make a
20576s	space immediately so he had to choose a
20578s	three-house target and you'd rather keep
20580s	your spell damage minions alive but now
20581s	he's able to shoot away one crush claw
20584s	and then the nagaling poor noggiling
20586s	never lives long in naga mage does his
20589s	job and then leaves
20591s	yeah
20592s	i'm gonna finish with the zola on the
20593s	spy lash air what would you rate that
20595s	turn gia
20596s	as a naga mage turn five out of five
20599s	uh about 15 out of five mana oh yeah
20603s	sounds about right yep get lorinda to
20606s	check the maths on that but i i do
20607s	believe you
20610s	uh
20612s	are we seeing
20613s	a spammy there is a two health minion
20616s	and so you can drew it up the reef into
20618s	the three four and then that will be one
20620s	two three four five perfect clear man
20623s	that's nothing honestly so simple for an
20625s	edgy boston to get through
20627s	could also just play the three one and
20629s	then true i'll be right
20632s	through why did i make things harder for
20634s	myself
20635s	save up that apm for another time
20640s	he can start with the aquatic form
20642s	because almost anything is dredgeable
20645s	and drawable from the dredge at the
20647s	moment
20652s	using to draw rather than ramp here okay
20655s	now what's boston gonna do is he gonna
20657s	do the trade or is he gonna insta play
20659s	the spammy
20660s	oh yeah two kinds of people yeah
20666s	really clean kill there
20669s	but this is why levick gave himself
20672s	insurance of
20673s	uh copying another spy lash even though
20675s	he had drawn the second natural copy it
20678s	just means that if you get another one
20680s	from zola you can make three waves of
20682s	boards potentially not just two yeah
20685s	and now we see that yes that was a good
20687s	clear from boston but now the flurries
20690s	active which gives their levick a little
20691s	bit more freedom and more mana
20693s	generation a little bit easier here
20696s	and we see the doubles fight lash which
20698s	means that um they do kind of sync up as
20700s	soon as you play um one spell or one
20703s	naga after so right now he's on um
20706s	nagas fell nagas fell refreshing four
20708s	mana and that naga giant is going down
20710s	to zero mana after this so
20713s	that's an eight eight gain four mana
20714s	effectively
20716s	yeah oh
20717s	okay picks up the pyro i was gonna say
20719s	turn what seven
20721s	uh the deck's pretty much empty there's
20723s	ignite and pyro in hand and another full
20725s	board of awkward to kill minions
20727s	especially with the help of that naga
20729s	giant selevik there
20731s	very clean game so far from what i've
20733s	seen gli this is just looking
20735s	threatening every single turn
20737s	absolutely and he's had that multicaster
20740s	also to finish out the turn making sure
20742s	that you don't really float that much
20743s	mana at the end because you have so much
20746s	spare mana with the double splashes that
20747s	you can afford to spend four man on
20749s	something that is neither spell nor naga
20751s	and this is far too many stats for even
20753s	a scale to get through so what's it
20755s	gonna be for nedji
20758s	uh
20760s	there's like a whole lot of nothing
20762s	there
20764s	amalgam can it get anything like
20767s	he's almost in deathwing territory but
20770s	he that doesn't win him the game either
20771s	because uh the ignites mean that levick
20774s	will not fatigue
20776s	yeah like
20780s	too late for any kind of like ivis
20782s	innovate uh scales right which is
20784s	another like weird way you can dig
20786s	yourself out or at least just gain a ton
20788s	of armor
20790s	there is scale spammy though so he can
20792s	create a two health by trading one into
20794s	the uh
20796s	uh multicaster and there would be a one
20798s	two three four five and then a six yeah
20801s	you just trade one into multi and then
20803s	one into giant and then spammy clears
20805s	that's insane
20810s	i think he has it yeah
20815s	however levick is sitting on so much
20818s	damage in hand
20824s	you gotta be scrappy finish with the
20826s	jerry rig yeah you did okay
20829s	and fast i don't know what the ignites
20830s	are out this one's at four there's the
20832s	other one in deck
20834s	oh sorry it's only a one of my bad yeah
20836s	he's playing the one yeah
20841s	night
20842s	and then
20848s	i'm out of cards
20850s	x damage this time and then flurry this
20853s	board
20855s	and he has
20857s	pyroblast or ignite gifts ignite again
20860s	next turn uh the ignite would be seven
20863s	and then eight right
20866s	uh yes
20867s	so
20869s	miracle growth
20872s	into skip and scales
20874s	yeah if nadji has
20876s	yeah naji should know that there's at
20877s	least a viper right so it's guaranteed
20879s	at least seven and eight damage yeah so
20883s	15 so he needs to get
20885s	above
20886s	16 including ping
20889s	you'll get what nine and eight armor i
20891s	think if he draws the other scales right
20895s	so
20896s	does it have to be both scales i think
20898s	so right
20900s	yeah i think so yeah he's only on four
20902s	right now
20906s	oh does that have aquatic form i saw
20908s	there as well
20909s	oh
20912s	still
20913s	guff draw
20915s	i said this when i was just casting with
20916s	tj i feel like so many of these raptor
20919s	games all we do is talk about they need
20921s	the scales they need the fields and it
20923s	happens every time
20925s	it is so i feel so reliant right now at
20928s	least in this tournament meta that the
20929s	decks are so aggressive oh he does get
20932s	it okay
20934s	i mean you're absolutely right though
20936s	like this is the most efficient armor
20938s	game tool in the game right now and
20940s	druid more so than warrior kind of plays
20942s	with fire in the early game where
20943s	they're just tanking all this damage and
20945s	not clearing necessarily but okay he's
20948s	at 25 right now again ignite deal seven
20951s	second ignite will deal eight can he get
20955s	a third ignite through because he
20957s	technically has viper and gifts playable
20960s	but i don't know if there's the mana i'm
20962s	wondering if it's just
20963s	he can let me think here
20966s	okay he's a little bit off doing it that
20968s	way
20970s	i'm just wondering whether he could go
20972s	instead of using blizzard he could just
20973s	like ignite ignite and then just second
20976s	flame the jerry rig and freeze and say
20979s	well that should be enough to not die
20982s	sorry there is the mana he can play all
20984s	the ignites
20986s	uh he can gift and then ignite again but
20988s	then he's one damage off and one mana
20991s	off being able to ping
20992s	so
20994s	you probably just like
20996s	stop here schoolteacher flurry or
20998s	something
21000s	yeah i think
21005s	i think he needs to second flame as well
21007s	right he needs to kill the jerry rig he
21009s	needs the flurry to hit one of the big
21011s	minions to feel safe at least
21015s	that's true that's true
21020s	i'm gonna get that igniting look oh it's
21022s	both as well okay well yeah extremely
21025s	safe now
21026s	and now with double scales gone
21028s	even like the ivor's play with an
21030s	innovate is is long gone now
21032s	yeah it's just not getting there is
21034s	there anything from amalgam that's the
21036s	question
21038s	a naga that can
21040s	a azshara no not enough chief spells to
21043s	activate her
21046s	even with 16 mana
21051s	maybe there's
21053s	something left in the deck we're not
21054s	accounting for
21056s	yeah i mean honestly the answer was
21059s	get kaz down earlier wasn't it you know
21061s	what i mean if it sounds very stupid to
21063s	say of course but uh with the rate in
21065s	which levick applied pressure this game
21068s	i i think
21069s	if that armor isn't enough because of
21070s	the speed he got the ignites live it had
21073s	to be like kaz in to win the game right
21076s	and that's just not going to be the case
21077s	because the dragons haven't been played
21079s	yet
21080s	oh and the wild growth doesn't give him
21082s	the empty mana because he's not at 20
21085s	yet and so it doesn't activate a shark
21092s	um okay this is the third spell right
21094s	okay so he has azshara
21097s	wait you do get
21098s	okay oh that was the ramp nourish that's
21100s	my bad okay
21104s	corbin that can get scale
21106s	right oh yeah that you could still scorp
21109s	it for scale there
21111s	right well
21113s	regardless evens up the series and i
21115s	will say um it looks like levick has put
21118s	a lot of time into that mage list
21120s	because he looked very calm on these
21123s	execution turns very clean it didn't
21126s	look like he missed a trick there was no
21128s	point at least i could see that oh he
21130s	could have done this so he could have
21131s	done that like nope he just looked clean
21133s	every turn of the game and he got
21135s	rewarded for it with a very convincing
21137s	win honestly
21138s	right i think
21140s	the actual pop-off turns of the spidlash
21142s	siren was a lot of mechanical memory
21145s	there for uh just muscle memory coming
21148s	in huge there it's very important just
21151s	to make sure you don't miss even a
21152s	single second on this deck you really
21154s	cannot afford to it might mean missing
21156s	five or six damage or three card draws
21158s	with your multicaster or ignite at the
21160s	end but the real genius i would say is
21162s	the way he piloted the early game where
21164s	he took siphon mana and not only that
21167s	just set up a whole turn to ping his own
21169s	spell coiler to get the siphon vana
21171s	through and that gave him all these
21173s	discounts on the spells that left the
21175s	pop-off turns be so fluid
21177s	yeah really really impressive overall
21180s	and then let me just triple check i
21182s	believe now then yeah it leaves demon
21185s	hunter versus druid as the last game of
21188s	the series and again i feel like um that
21191s	er nezi is going to be really feeling
21193s	the pressure right now because one the
21195s	druid versus mage matchup is not very
21197s	fun for the druid and neither is this
21200s	one as far as i'm concerned as well if
21202s	levick has another you know reasonable
21204s	opening and again a little bit of a
21206s	simpler deck to pilot at least on a
21209s	pop-off turn basis than the maid i feel
21211s	like uh neji could be feeling a little
21213s	bit worried about losing his lead in
21215s	this series
21217s	it is simpler in terms of number of
21219s	actions that need to be done but there
21220s	are always these small lethal puzzles
21222s	often oh yeah demon hunter or even if
21225s	not lethal just how to maximize your
21226s	damage with dread prison glaive so many
21229s	interactions you need to be aware of on
21231s	this deck in particular
21233s	but overall the
21235s	heart of the game plan of just going
21237s	wide as soon as possible is very much
21239s	intact just like as it was with the mage
21242s	but this is a match up where spammy
21244s	arcanus is also pretty easy to set up
21246s	for an edgy boston so if
21248s	levitt can be a bit careful there that's
21249s	ideal but look at this now vanguard
21251s	would glaive into drekthar with the
21254s	weapon pre-equipped already yeah
21256s	this is looking quite good although i've
21259s	just come off the back of a a game that
21261s	i thought it was looking great for the
21263s	uh demon hunter but then the warrior won
21267s	but yeah but yeah this is looking good
21269s	but good for both players honestly uh
21271s	neji had this does have wild growth with
21274s	nourish with scale of a nixie in hand
21276s	and moonlit guidance which can help fish
21278s	specific answers or maybe even get
21281s	what what i feel like now is the key
21283s	goal of an extra scales
21286s	just to be able to gain more armor so
21288s	both players looking decent so far
21292s	interesting line from levick where
21295s	he did reach for the slither spear over
21297s	the vanguard which i think is with
21299s	respect to drexar and board space
21301s	because if you pull second uh vanguard
21304s	with drexar and then you'd already play
21306s	the first and you're going to swing
21307s	anyway you kind of lose out on some
21309s	one-on-one developments but i also
21311s	thought the other upside of not playing
21313s	vanguard is you don't need to swing with
21315s	the weapon that turn like he could have
21316s	gone one three hero par face and then
21319s	pre-equipped the weapon but he has
21321s	willfully chosen to use a weapon charge
21324s	and probably use another one with
21325s	drexlar the next turn because if you get
21327s	vanguard puffer fist there's just so
21329s	many benefits to swinging straight away
21331s	it's also i think as well a really
21333s	strong play around spammy arcanist right
21335s	because as levitt can see he'll play
21337s	director and as he will have five mana
21340s	and if he'd played the vanguard then
21342s	there's one ones into where there's ones
21344s	into twos already on the board and then
21346s	direct could easily pull a three and
21349s	then suddenly that the whole board gets
21351s	obliterated that you know he has played
21353s	into if anything
21355s	that is a very good call
21357s	but we'll see what drexar pulls here
21360s	najib with the shake of his head of
21361s	course we all know this every drexlar
21364s	player has it on curve and these are
21366s	high health minions not that nudgy even
21369s	has spammy in the first place but the
21371s	fact that that's lady steno this early
21373s	oh man
21374s	so much damage already it's huge i think
21377s	outside of
21379s	exactly what double innovate scale
21382s	or scale should i say uh oh no scale of
21385s	enyx here that's right isn't it um
21387s	anyway uh the
21388s	there's just nothing that you can do so
21390s	he's just gonna get hit
21392s	basically is the way here those were
21394s	pretty threatening minions the five
21396s	health again always a problem odd
21398s	numbers against druids so energy is
21400s	gonna just took a quick hero power into
21401s	that makes absolute sense but there's
21404s	more power where that came from
21407s	there truly is and naji was just praying
21409s	that there's not too many spells for
21410s	loving but now he's picked up chaos
21412s	strike and fury and can fill out the
21414s	last mana with his hero power still
21416s	playing around spammy arcanist and you
21418s	know maintaining another minion on board
21421s	that has odd health so it makes the
21422s	scale even harder to use and naji is
21424s	still like one more vape away from
21427s	playing onyxia the next turn stano just
21430s	coming in so clutch just look at levick
21433s	you can tell you know he's he's in that
21435s	stage where you know you're winning but
21436s	you still feel like you're going to lose
21438s	right because you just know how close
21440s	you are it's just okay just don't clear
21442s	the board or just don't gain loads of
21444s	armor and it's how important this win is
21447s	again there's a big difference here
21448s	going 6-1 instead of ending the round
21451s	5-2 like that is a huge difference to
21454s	your likelihood of getting into top 16.
21457s	double miracle growth and naga giant has
21460s	to be miracle growth but the tough thing
21462s	for naji here is scale is one minion
21465s	short of being able to clear everything
21467s	like every minion on board takes two
21469s	whelps to get through right now and the
21472s	you know powerful part of treasure guard
21474s	is coming into play here where it
21475s	protects the actual threats on board
21477s	because of the taunt like if naji could
21479s	trade away everything else and leave the
21480s	treasure guard he's fine but he has to
21482s	get through that in order to kill stano
21485s	and then he has to choose between
21486s	killing druktar and slitherspear and
21488s	it's probably drachthar at this point
21490s	but the slithersphere can definitely
21491s	represent lethal as well depending on
21494s	lubbock straws
21496s	multi-strike as well
21499s	gonna vade out the hero power tank the
21501s	three
21502s	very sad to have to do that while it is
21505s	you know above one attack but i think a
21507s	necessary sacrifice and that's just game
21510s	right multi-strike hero power puffer
21512s	fist that looks like five as far as i
21513s	can see oh fury as well why not chuck
21516s	that one on top and levick
21518s	fights back we dove into this series as
21521s	a 2-1 score where levick was the player
21524s	who was losing and off the back of just
21526s	two very strong games and even though
21528s	that one was you know maybe a bit faster
21530s	and maybe looked more straightforward
21533s	levick made some key decisions in that
21535s	game that i think a lot of you know more
21537s	average hearthstone players definitely
21539s	would not have made and i truly believe
21541s	he gained like massive percentage based
21543s	on those decisions and a really
21545s	impressive win there just from the two
21547s	games we saw i kind of kind of wish we
21548s	got to see the whole series now honestly
21550s	right definitely a master class on both
21552s	decks from levick um from the setup of
21555s	siphon mana on the naga mage all the way
21558s	up to just skipping battle sworn
21560s	vanguard entirely even though spammy was
21562s	not drawn by naji he has you know two
21564s	copies of that so it's very um
21566s	appropriate for levick to just have that
21568s	top of mind play around it and realize
21570s	that if drachthar cooperates he can just
21572s	build a board that doesn't completely
21574s	fizzle out to that spammy and it once
21577s	again kind of shows that spammy is a
21579s	much more powerful card on ladder than
21581s	it is in tournament when your opponents
21583s	absolutely know that you have it in your
21585s	deck but that's not to discredit levick
21587s	i think he did extremely well in this
21589s	series it feels like we've been casting
21591s	him at the top of swiss almost every
21593s	master's tour these days and for good
21595s	reason yeah and just for nezzy boston
21597s	we've been talking a lot about levick of
21599s	course he won but for him i i think he
21601s	just uh suffered from druid right now
21604s	right where druid is extremely powerful
21606s	but because a lot of players this
21608s	tournament have built lineups with a
21610s	druid in absolute laser focus and you
21613s	can see how hard some of these matchups
21614s	are when you fully focus on okay if i
21617s	just beat up druid uh the series should
21619s	be fine so again congratulations to
21622s	levick again for winning the round but i
21624s	believe that is this round over and that
21626s	means we only have one more left so
21628s	stick around because round eight is
21630s	gonna start right after this
21633s	[Music]
21640s	[Music]
21683s	oh
21686s	[Music]
21705s	[Music]
21716s	foreign
21716s	[Music]
21722s	[Applause]
21723s	[Music]
21733s	so
21735s	[Music]
21781s	[Music]
21828s	welcome back once again to master's
21830s	voice to the sunken city it is round
21832s	eight it is a crucial round for many of
21834s	these players trying to get to seasonal
21836s	championships uh or last call
21839s	and with me for this crucial round is
21841s	subtle who i hope is behaving himself on
21843s	camera what he was doing earlier was
21844s	very silly
21847s	what
21848s	uh honestly how i get leveled with these
21851s	accusations i have no idea clearly i was
21853s	being dragged down to tj's level at that
21854s	point but regardless yes i'm sure we
21857s	will have a much straight much more
21859s	straight ahead by the book broadcast
21860s	with myself and my good friend larinda
21863s	bringing you uh kwanwu versus faceoff
21866s	who are two
21867s	six one players i believe as is
21869s	tradition for this final round we tend
21871s	to reward the players who are doing the
21873s	best with the broadcast time all the way
21874s	through so you're seeing xo players
21877s	throughout most rounds however at this
21879s	point this is the one that gets really
21881s	exciting right since these players that
21883s	are on the bubble with one loss to their
21885s	name already they're really playing the
21886s	win and in matches so we generally break
21889s	from tradition and follow a player with
21891s	a single loss in this round
21894s	both these players with a handful of
21896s	masters tours each behind them basically
21898s	the short versions they've gone four and
21900s	four in basically all of them um but
21902s	from donkey's side i got a little bit of
21904s	info on face off his qualifier
21906s	percentages
21907s	in 2020 was 54
21910s	in 2021 was 65 percent this year he's on
21914s	69.94
21916s	i don't want to say 70 but it's 70
21918s	percent so he's gone from 54 to 65 to 70
21922s	over the last two years uh he's gone
21924s	four four four four and now six one in
21927s	masters tours
21929s	perhaps a rising star i don't know but
21930s	those percentages do seem to be trending
21932s	upwards and rapidly so so it'd be good
21934s	to have a look at how he gets on
21936s	yeah i mean good information for sure
21939s	and just looking at it decklist wise i
21941s	think
21941s	a few surprises in this one um firstly i
21945s	mean maybe you could look at this a
21946s	different way and say that the the two
21948s	druids being in here the two ramp druids
21950s	specifically towards the height of the
21951s	rankings um sometimes we are guilty with
21954s	like we follow a small sample of the
21956s	tournament on the actual broadcast and
21958s	sometimes we have false narratives just
21960s	based on what we've seen um but the
21962s	power of the anti-druid lineups has
21964s	seemed significant from what we've seen
21966s	so far um but i suppose if you want to
21968s	twist that around well like like i said
21970s	we aren't following the xo players
21972s	anymore we're following players who are
21973s	hanging on with that one loss so far in
21975s	the tournament maybe that is the right
21976s	place for those druid lineups to be but
21979s	as mentioned both of those players
21981s	are packing that druid there's also a
21983s	shaman in here from kwamu's side which i
21985s	believe i've only seen in one series
21988s	that i've covered so far and it was
21989s	banned out of the series it was going
21990s	against up against the aggro lineup but
21993s	from his side that does sort of make
21994s	sense right if i'm saying druid has a
21997s	weakness to the quad board-based aggro
21999s	lineup well what's the deck that
22001s	absolutely destroys the board-based
22003s	aggro deck lineup that's shaman right so
22005s	having that in there alongside various
22008s	other tools as well um is um a pretty
22011s	decent idea i did prefer what i saw
22013s	before from the previous player who had
22015s	shaman and control warrior in there so
22017s	you you outnumber the possible amount of
22019s	bands from your opponent right because
22020s	they want to ban both of those decks but
22023s	instead lorinda he's got a mech paladin
22026s	why don't you tell us all about mech
22028s	paladin
22029s	yeah and it doesn't really gel with what
22030s	you've just said mech paladin very very
22033s	good against the the big four decks the
22035s	druids the is pretty good against the
22037s	hunter it's pretty good against the
22038s	warrior because it's so hard to remove
22040s	those sticky minions
22042s	but as you said he's brought the shaman
22043s	because of the board decks and maybe
22046s	seriously this is just a i'm going to
22048s	bring four good decks that do well
22049s	against the meta and not necessarily
22052s	target not necessarily have anything
22054s	particularly crazy just four solid decks
22056s	that can beat anything and if i get the
22058s	right matchups i'll win and he's been
22060s	winning so makes a lot of sense
22062s	yeah there's a there's a rare strategy
22064s	in conquest but it is one that i've
22066s	heard people talk about is one i've seen
22068s	people use
22069s	where you bring four decks that are all
22071s	dramatically very different from each
22073s	other and have dramatically different
22074s	match-ups so that therefore any
22077s	target strategy in the tournament kind
22080s	of by definition only hits one of your
22082s	decks right so as long as you can find
22085s	one of your wins with your your 40 match
22087s	ups in that lineup which you are favored
22089s	to do if you have three attempts at
22090s	doing it you never get double targeted
22092s	because all of your decks are so
22094s	drastically different from each other
22095s	it's not something that we see a great
22097s	deal of but it is a strategy that can
22099s	work out in some spots
22102s	yeah and of course it gives you that
22103s	versatile band to some degree as well
22105s	although demon hunter exists so you ban
22107s	it and get on with your life
22109s	but it does give you that opportunity to
22111s	be a little bit choosy on the bands
22113s	because you're doing so many different
22114s	things you can always ban the thing
22116s	you're worst against
22118s	so we'll have to look how it gets on in
22119s	this one but six and one as you say
22121s	these things happen off stream all the
22123s	time we always sort of go well he lost
22125s	this therefore it's rubbish but not the
22127s	case whatever happens here it's done
22129s	well uh face up on the other hand uh
22132s	does have a far more conventional
22134s	strategy there is the boar priest in
22136s	there which honestly is so hard to judge
22138s	because you look at the stats even from
22139s	top thousand and that includes numbers
22141s	101 to 1000 so they don't really matter
22145s	um
22146s	it just means the poor priest if you
22148s	look at it is 45 against everything but
22150s	that's because it's not being played by
22152s	boar priest players all of the time
22154s	so we'll have to see how that gets on in
22156s	this one
22159s	[Music]
22161s	apologies just had a momentary audio
22163s	issue there so i didn't catch the end of
22164s	whatever you were saying but i'm sure it
22166s	was absolutely thrilling uh but i am
22169s	looking forward to percentages
22171s	good because i was going to talk about
22173s	more priest anyway because i am very
22175s	interested in seeing what's going to
22176s	happen here with the boar priest i don't
22178s	think we've seen enough of it compared
22180s	to what a lot of us were expecting
22183s	um we a lot of top players have put a
22186s	lot of hype in it recently um i know
22188s	bly's has been jamming it a million
22189s	times on stream a lot of players are
22191s	climbing to very high legend there are
22192s	of course a lot of naysayers as there
22194s	always are um with a deck that increases
22197s	with win rate so dramatically with
22199s	player skill there's always the argument
22201s	right no one ever disputes okay it's a
22203s	41 win rate deck in the hands of a
22206s	player who doesn't know what they're
22207s	doing
22208s	it does increase in the hands of a good
22209s	player right like we all agree with that
22212s	but but the dispute comes from how much
22214s	does it increase does it ever become a
22217s	55 60 win rate deck it does a skill edge
22220s	ever exist to the point where it's
22221s	gaining 14 to 19 win rate and i think
22224s	we've seen these arguments come up time
22226s	and time and time again with deck after
22228s	deck in metagame after metagame um but i
22230s	was on the side of expecting to see a
22232s	good chunk of ball priest in this one
22234s	and we really have not seen that much of
22236s	it again just based on our sample from
22238s	what we've seen on stream
22240s	i think quite a few people bailed like
22242s	they're like yes i think this is the
22244s	bring but i've got three days from the
22246s	nerfs happening i don't want to invest
22248s	2.9 of those days learning to play bull
22250s	priest well
22252s	um
22252s	i think more people if they've just
22254s	given you hey somebody else is playing
22256s	the lineup for you what lineup do you
22257s	want them to have i think we've seen a
22259s	much higher percentage of poor priests
22260s	out there
22262s	but a lot of players just didn't want to
22263s	put the time into that
22266s	indeed and it looks like we are going to
22268s	be kicking things off with this ball
22270s	priest indeed a deck that i know you uh
22274s	did your best trying to do your due
22275s	diligence to make sure you are prepared
22277s	do your best i think is about the best
22279s	way i can put it but it is certainly a
22282s	very difficult and complex deck to
22286s	navigate as mentioned before
22289s	there are lots of tricky turns there's
22291s	lots of resource management you have
22293s	very limited tools to be able to clear
22295s	boards and a couple of them in the wild
22297s	pyromancers are also very crucial for
22300s	your combo turns as well not your not
22302s	even just your combo wing condition
22304s	turns with the amulet but also your
22305s	combo draw turns with cleric and with
22308s	bran handmaiden and so on filling a
22310s	board full of minions healing them all
22311s	up with a gift of the naaru and then
22315s	drawing a million cards that way so
22317s	suddenly you get in these positions
22319s	where if you've used one too many
22320s	resources here if you've used one too
22322s	many board clears here if you spend too
22324s	much mana on answering your opponent's
22326s	threats and not enough mana on trading
22329s	your amulets then you might run out of
22330s	time to get that done before the end of
22332s	the game it's a deck with a million
22334s	spiked pits that you can fall into at
22337s	some point over the course of the game
22338s	and lorendra i think you can speak from
22340s	experience having fallen into literally
22342s	all of them over something yeah i think
22344s	i now know all the things you can do
22346s	wrong with this deck i don't know what
22347s	the things you can do right are but i
22349s	have fallen into many many pits and i
22352s	have fallen through the dumpster and
22353s	into dredge land in legend rank in doing
22356s	so as well
22357s	but it's a good learning experience and
22359s	most of the time i could see what i was
22361s	doing wrong but i think that doesn't
22362s	stop at me i think that even when you
22364s	get to the top players
22365s	they finish the game and obviously
22367s	they're playing a much much better game
22368s	than i was playing but they still look
22370s	at it go well if i just hadn't pi road
22372s	on turn six i could have still had that
22374s	and cleared a different way and used my
22377s	health there's just so many different
22378s	ways that they can just improve each
22380s	time and i think that's what attracts
22382s	some people to the deck and what puts
22383s	others off it
22385s	meanwhile he's now going to be going up
22387s	against this shaman as mentioned
22389s	previously not a deck we've seen a great
22390s	deal of um it's a deck that you almost
22393s	have to ban if you're playing the heavy
22395s	board-based strategy that we've seen a
22396s	lot of the players do with the quad
22398s	aggro and so even in the series where it
22400s	has been present it's quite often been
22402s	banned but it is still a very very
22403s	powerful deck it's kind of a holdover
22405s	from the previous metagame uh where
22408s	everything the wild poor cabin snowfall
22410s	guardian and birds package is still
22412s	intact and is still the core of the deck
22414s	bolner and bru khan as kind of the wing
22416s	condition cards are thrown in there as
22418s	well it's just now
22420s	shaman players have extra toys to play
22422s	with in the form of bioluminescence
22424s	which can create absolutely absurd
22428s	amounts of burst damage and not only
22430s	from the spell itself but if you're able
22432s	to generate it from a nargling so you
22434s	get battle cry bioluminescence then
22437s	bolner comes into play and you can start
22439s	duplicating that battle cry over and
22441s	over again and that is when it gets
22443s	absolutely absurd and you can start
22445s	dealing warrior and druid numbers in
22447s	terms of the total amount of armor and
22449s	health that you have to beat
22450s	yeah i was going to pull you up until
22451s	you went down there and explained it
22453s	like the deck has got significantly more
22456s	powerful in raw terms it's just that the
22458s	rest of the meta has also done the same
22460s	thing
22461s	so
22462s	it's just not quite functional enough
22464s	it's just got a bad place in the meta in
22466s	general i would say it is just sitting
22468s	in this weird middle ground of being
22470s	kind of okay against things compared to
22473s	what it should be there's usually a
22474s	better deck for the job like
22476s	quest hunter which we are not seeing in
22478s	this match at all which is probably the
22480s	first time that's happened on stream
22484s	it's probably not far off it has been a
22486s	very popular deck on broadcast so far
22488s	but off we go straight away trading away
22491s	that amulet so that's one trade down
22493s	already on the pre side of course there
22495s	is a checklist of things that you do
22496s	have to achieve to get your win
22498s	conditions sort of a thousand truths
22500s	with with this deck uh first off is
22502s	getting four trades done or sorry three
22504s	trades done with your amulet so you get
22506s	one to two and one to three and then you
22508s	need to get both of your boars dead so
22510s	that your first amulet will actually
22511s	revive those two balls that you need and
22513s	then from that point you're set up to
22514s	get all seven of them dead uh usually
22517s	doing it in the same turn as you drop a
22519s	wild pyromancer to do it immediately but
22521s	this matchup against shaman does bring
22523s	an extra factor of freezing into play
22526s	with those stags that are going to come
22527s	off the wild poor cabin which is uh
22529s	something perhaps that you might have to
22530s	look out for
22532s	yep getting frozen not good with the
22534s	sword and of course uh playing the
22536s	cavern on curve will usually still
22538s	happen but it is later on a way to just
22540s	stop you from being attacked uh pitfall
22543s	number one by the way make sure your
22544s	pyromancer has two health
22547s	uh when you play it this one does
22549s	and they have one healthy just not so
22551s	good i found that one out very true very
22554s	good at this game
22555s	um handmade and having one health are
22557s	absolutely fine of course so just just
22560s	just remember your health have changed
22561s	on your switcheroo cards it's not just
22562s	draw two cards
22565s	ah you're gonna get a checklist subtle
22567s	i'm afraid i'm looking forward to it
22569s	a checklist of all the things that can
22571s	go wrong that you've never even noticed
22574s	all right so the beating is going to
22576s	commence and face off with that limited
22578s	removal of what you spoke about we'll
22580s	have to use his health as the resource
22581s	quite tricky against the shaman because
22583s	of the burn it contains so you've got to
22585s	be a little bit awake at all times to
22587s	how low you can go
22589s	and yeah just just put stuff on board on
22591s	curve and hit him good start for kung
22593s	woo
22595s	yeah multicasted just for the one draw
22597s	just the windchill played so far but is
22600s	the most he can do in terms of
22601s	development and i think this is a good
22602s	way to play the match up in absence of
22604s	wild poor cavern plan b just make these
22607s	three or four minion boards every single
22609s	turn try and demand your priest opponent
22611s	to clear them because as mentioned as
22613s	soon as the board starts moving beyond
22615s	three
22616s	it's scary for the opponent you have to
22618s	have a very specific very scammy hand to
22620s	kill your opponent early in with this
22622s	deck with sharma but it can happen if
22624s	you are leaving minions alive on the
22626s	other side
22627s	yeah getting the second pyromancer
22628s	there's a big deal allows him a little
22630s	bit of freedom to maneuver early
22632s	um with the cleric now he's got to start
22635s	counting you can see he's concentrating
22637s	during his opponent's turn probably
22639s	already working out how many cars do i
22641s	dump how many going to get healed how do
22643s	i over draw
22644s	do i want to risk over drawing if i'm
22646s	this far behind already as well just
22647s	because why not
22650s	and also
22651s	oh dear why did my opponent hit the
22652s	nagaling that buffed their entire board
22654s	and made it terrifying that's probably
22656s	also somewhat worrying at this point
22658s	yeah
22660s	yeah step number two make sure you check
22662s	your opponent's board size
22664s	before just looking at your own hand
22667s	but it's a big deal right obviously the
22668s	extra the extra damage is the extra
22670s	damage but just the extra health on the
22672s	minions here uh there is a light bomb in
22674s	the deck but outside of that the clears
22676s	do tend to come from pyromancers um
22680s	if not xyrella so
22682s	improving the health on your minions and
22684s	just making them stickier against those
22686s	aoes is a big deal
22688s	you're talking about the scammy start
22690s	from the shaman it's getting there
22693s	there's 18 on the board this demands an
22696s	answer very soon with burn that could be
22698s	in hand or could not as far as face-off
22700s	is concerned
22701s	yep
22702s	bio and frostbite in hand already as
22704s	well
22706s	yeah
22707s	ouch
22711s	but again one of the the things of the
22713s	deck just
22714s	don't panic you have got a health total
22716s	for avs and they have to reduce it to
22718s	zero oh
22720s	i nearly can
22732s	there's the lightning bolt yeah so if
22733s	this board were not to go down next turn
22736s	like forgetting about the fact that
22737s	there is not that much damage in play
22739s	uh but the
22741s	uh not enough damage for lethal in play
22743s	the threat of bioluminescence now for
22745s	kwanwu backed up with the frostbite and
22746s	the lightning bolt huge huge huge and
22748s	you can see
22750s	the extremes that kwamu is taking the
22752s	anti-priest strats here
22754s	he's skipped an enormous amount of
22756s	damage this turn and that is because of
22759s	primarily zyrella in the position that
22761s	he's in but furthermore just things like
22763s	gift of the naaru if they're not drawing
22765s	cards for the opponent then they're
22766s	suddenly making it much more difficult
22768s	for them to achieve their win condition
22770s	so kwamu just quite willing especially
22771s	with bioluminescence in hand to say i'm
22774s	going to limit your ability to draw
22776s	cards and clear my board with xyrella as
22778s	much as i can and the second you fail to
22780s	do that i am going to blow your face off
22783s	with this frostbite and lightning bolt
22785s	that i have in my hand
22786s	very nice
22787s	uh
22788s	all right
22789s	very early use of extra mana here we um
22794s	yeah he's all over the place trying to
22796s	clear this you've got to keep your
22797s	pyromancer healthy get your extra mana
22799s	on board etc and
22802s	not leave this lot up and that rope is
22805s	burning while he's working this out
22808s	assuming we're seeing everything in real
22810s	time he has got to go and will not get
22812s	there but maybe he's got there
22817s	he's going to assume that he's not dead
22820s	i'm not sure that is a particularly good
22822s	assumption right now all right
22825s	um so there's i don't think he's gone i
22827s	think it's in fact a terrible assumption
22829s	yeah face-off gives the nod but i think
22831s	more so than like an assumption that he
22833s	wasn't dead i think it's just like well
22834s	what else am i gonna do about this
22836s	situation i needed a a five aoe
22839s	pyromancer to be able to get through
22840s	that shadower devours were the cards
22842s	that he would have been really looking
22844s	for because they have they essentially
22845s	double up on the pyromancer arguably
22848s	even more than that because
22850s	a you do the one aoe b you do the one
22853s	eight the one suck from all of your
22854s	opponents minions which is then doing
22856s	two damage to them functionally but then
22858s	on top of that you also give your pyro a
22861s	bunch of extra health so you don't have
22862s	to be constantly healing it to keep
22864s	rocking it from that point forward and
22866s	you saw right at the end though
22867s	shadowhead devours only appeared from
22869s	that handmaiden right at the very end
22872s	once faceoff was already out of mana
22874s	and those are the the things with the
22876s	deck you have to factor in when we talk
22878s	about high skill cap it's very
22880s	in theory straightforward to do the
22882s	basic stuff
22883s	but like they're leaving that is
22885s	probably the correct decision it looks
22886s	stupid when you just get exploded from
22888s	30 the next turn
22890s	but you better have um the bio i'm gonna
22893s	call it so i don't get it completely
22895s	wrong every single time plus a couple of
22897s	direct damage spells take the chance and
22899s	you set it up for next turn and win the
22901s	game that way because if he gets through
22903s	the next turn suddenly he's got a whole
22904s	handful of healing he can clear the
22906s	board game it back on gave himself the
22908s	maximum chance to win most likely again
22911s	don't take anything i say about boss
22913s	particularly seriously
22915s	yeah the
22916s	the other option was um i guess going
22918s	with some sort of shot of the naaru
22920s	attempt you use shadow of the naaru to
22922s	essentially remove one health from all
22923s	of the minions on board and go from
22924s	there with your pyro but again um i have
22927s	played a good amount of board uh board
22929s	priest of four priests um but that
22932s	matchup in particular is not one i have
22934s	a huge amount of experience with but i
22936s	again imagine as a point that i brought
22937s	up at the start
22939s	the ability for the stags to just
22940s	consistently freeze you if you leave
22942s	them on board is going to absolutely
22943s	ruin your win condition if they're able
22945s	to just lock that out so perhaps shard
22948s	of the naaru is um valuable in that
22950s	position for just removing the freeze
22952s	effect from the enemy minions so they
22954s	can't consistently freeze you i don't
22956s	know if that's a serious concern in the
22958s	matchup um but it still
22960s	is something that you can perhaps bear
22963s	in mind and he'd already used one shard
22965s	very early on to silence the boner on
22968s	turn two so i believe that was his one
22969s	remaining shard in deck that he was
22971s	playing around with there but still
22973s	tough one for the priest to take but a
22975s	quick easy win for the shaman and again
22977s	just worth pointing out once more how
22980s	much damage kwon woo missed deliberately
22982s	in that match up two entire turns um
22986s	with six attack four attack minions on
22987s	board that he was just not swinging with
22990s	in order to uh prevent the priest from
22992s	getting any value out of xyrella any
22994s	value out of the gift of the naaru just
22997s	no possible way um for faceoff to do the
23000s	easy things that the deck wants to do
23002s	yeah another concern at the end with the
23004s	caverns you were talking about is the
23005s	pacing of it it makes a 3-4 you want to
23008s	kill it because there's other stuff
23009s	alongside it but you can't because you
23011s	need to kill the last one so you don't
23013s	get frozen it's not just about being
23015s	frozen the fact that spits out one of
23017s	these things every turn and you only
23019s	have like three or four turns of clear
23021s	in the whole deck also makes that
23023s	complicated but enough of that we're
23024s	going on to some good old-fashioned
23027s	druid
23030s	and it is the good old-fashioned druid
23032s	indeed
23034s	there are two doomsayers in here which
23036s	uh is i'd say on the uncommon side still
23040s	below 50 of the ram druids that we've
23042s	been seeing i think have had the doom
23044s	say in there only one jerry rig
23046s	carpenter as well making room for a
23048s	battlegrounds battlemaster making the
23050s	list as well
23051s	um so i wonder whether you know that
23053s	doomsayer might have anything to do with
23056s	uh the success of the deck in the field
23058s	of the aggro decks that we've seen um
23060s	from what we've seen so far certainly
23062s	doomsayer and spammy arcanist have both
23064s	had their moments in those matchups
23066s	both in terms of winning games for the
23068s	druid and being a real point of
23069s	consternation for the players playing
23071s	against them
23072s	but doomsayer in this one again not the
23075s	really the field of decks that it's
23077s	looking to face against because neither
23079s	of these players really playing the uh
23080s	the full aggro lineup that we've come to
23082s	expect
23083s	and i can't believe this is even a
23084s	comment but double kelp keeper is in
23086s	here as well which is something we
23088s	haven't seen
23089s	as much of as we would expect it's still
23091s	obviously been in a lot of them but
23093s	people have been favoring sort of
23095s	cutting that in favor of
23097s	three one attack person and
23099s	the druid of the whatever it's called
23102s	reef
23103s	reef thank you i know why i couldn't
23104s	remember that because i can't say it i
23106s	remember now
23108s	um but yeah we've seen a lot more of
23109s	that in this uh more immediate removal
23112s	from turn one onwards but this one
23114s	loading up on everything
23117s	and faceoff is going to run it back with
23120s	the ball priest here
23124s	yeah this is the one that you feel you
23126s	have to win right
23128s	you would expect so yes if you are going
23130s	to have success i think you need to be
23132s	picking up a favorable win rate with uh
23134s	ball priest versus druid in this
23136s	tournament
23137s	and again for the people who are looking
23139s	on replay sites yes it says 40 or
23141s	something ridiculous that's because most
23143s	people are terrible at the deck
23145s	a reminder i'm going to keep using
23147s	because i felt it first hand
23150s	it hasn't scarred me though i'm fine
23154s	waiting for the results of a moonlit
23156s	guidance that we can't see unfortunately
23159s	it is going to be the kelp keeper
23161s	picked up by kwan wu
23165s	that's an interesting pickup as far as
23166s	i'm concerned is that what's that to
23167s	deal with is that to actually start
23168s	inflicting damage or is that some main
23171s	thing that i'm missing it's hard to
23172s	comment without knowing what the other
23174s	two cards were right like what what did
23175s	he do up over
23178s	was it an earthen scales and some other
23180s	brand of man okay which cards would he
23182s	pick a kelp keeper over do you think
23184s	yeah i mean obviously not uh
23187s	nourish
23189s	uh probably additional copies of miracle
23191s	growth i suppose um but honestly
23195s	with the current hand that he has i
23197s	suppose you could argue that he would
23199s	value kelp keeper quite heavily right
23201s	because he kind of has everything else
23203s	that he needs in his hand he has the
23205s	guff he has a scale to clear a board if
23207s	he needs and he has the miracle growth
23208s	for card draw so maybe he just looked at
23210s	this hand and says well any other card
23212s	i'm taking off the moonlit guidance when
23214s	am i playing it probably never whereas
23216s	this kelp keeper can come down on my
23218s	gulf turn with the one extra mana that i
23220s	get that i'm not otherwise spending on
23221s	anything else
23223s	yeah that makes sense to me is it ever
23225s	possible as the priest to just spam
23227s	handmaidens and xyrellas and just beat
23229s	her druid up like it feels like
23230s	sometimes you do have a lot of garbage
23232s	on the board that adds up to a lot of
23233s	damage
23234s	almost never relevant it really helps
23237s	because you don't want to be in a
23239s	situation where
23241s	um your 45 damage from the weapon isn't
23244s	good enough obviously that can still be
23246s	dealt with there are ways to secure
23248s	additional copies of the weapon through
23250s	zola or the xyrella hero or whatever
23252s	other methods you have in your deck to
23253s	be able to do that to get the death
23254s	route to go off again after you've
23256s	already completed the uh the boars quest
23259s	but
23260s	ideally you would really really really
23263s	love to have them below 45 so that first
23265s	weapon is going to do the job and that's
23267s	where
23268s	minions coming in and attacking really
23270s	does do the most work because
23272s	no you're never gonna get them down to
23274s	zero with your three two and your one
23276s	ones right that's not gonna happen if
23277s	you can get them to connect face a few
23279s	times then that just might set you up
23281s	for a smoother late game
23284s	double amulet in hand i think that has
23286s	any of them been cycled i didn't there
23288s	was one in the opening hand i believe so
23290s	one of them's on at least two two and a
23292s	one then for now
23294s	and already the druid asking questions
23296s	it's really annoying to play against
23297s	druid when the whelps actually don't
23299s	just clear your board but they clear
23301s	your board and there's still three left
23302s	over that's just
23304s	more on the clock to slow you down which
23306s	is making you have to speed up whichever
23307s	way you want to word that
23309s	yeah
23310s	it's nice but it can get awkward
23312s	one of the better matchups though for it
23313s	i think for this exact reason you can
23315s	kind of land a big health minion in
23317s	response to the two ones surviving as
23319s	you've seen here with the north shore
23321s	cleric um again face off a little shake
23323s	of the head cleric just being dumped out
23325s	of the hand to make room for handmaiden
23328s	with 13 cards still left in the deck
23331s	it's it is a borderline necessity in
23333s	that position um and just in terms of
23336s	overall hand space but really it's not
23338s	something that you ever love doing
23339s	because you do really want to use all of
23341s	your card draw effects rapidly one after
23344s	the other in this kind of match-up
23346s	and this is the reason i believe that
23347s	you're not a zola brand enjoyer in this
23350s	deck right there's plenty of card draw
23352s	already so
23353s	in your opinion or your your favorite
23355s	style is just not to have over amounts
23358s	of cards on your deck and stick in some
23359s	of that removal like light bomb instead
23362s	no i am a zola brand enjoyer you've got
23364s	it oh you are okay yeah i was so i think
23367s	the i think what i said to you that
23368s	you're taking that from is that i
23370s	initially i didn't like having like zola
23372s	bran and hero xyrella in the same deck
23375s	because i thought i thought that felt
23377s	like redundant i do see the logic of why
23379s	you do that because
23380s	you can still if you have xyrella hero
23383s	in your deck you can still use the zola
23385s	brand combo on a big tempo push on a big
23387s	card draw turn and then you still have
23389s	hero xyrella to be your additional
23391s	weapon in the deck if you need it to be
23393s	in druid and warrior matchups but i do
23396s	feel that having all of those cards in
23398s	the same deck does lead to little
23400s	situations like this where you have a
23402s	handful of nonsense at all times and
23404s	just no way to dump it all out on board
23406s	but
23407s	that very often is a skill cap thing
23409s	right you know i just don't understand
23411s	how to manage my hand size as much as
23413s	pocket training the very very best ball
23415s	players
23416s	actually do
23419s	using
23419s	not to light bomb in this way instead
23422s	getting on with his own plan using the
23423s	health as a resource which i was gonna
23425s	keep saying because it's like the only
23427s	resource you have is your health and
23429s	ways to make it come back up
23431s	so you've got to perpetually use that
23436s	and setting up to pick up a couple of
23437s	cards here
23440s	and uh burning two mana as well at the
23442s	end of all of it
23444s	with the priestess which i can't imagine
23446s	was the plan especially with the zero
23448s	mana thrive in the shadows still in the
23450s	hand and available there
23453s	no it doesn't seem correct does it it's
23455s	um
23456s	if you're going to play the process
23458s	you're doing something with it i think
23459s	the plan was maybe to get something to
23461s	draw with the cleric um pyro would have
23464s	helped but then two mana is not enough
23466s	so you know i'm not quite sure
23469s	i mean just spending another two mana on
23471s	doing things there would have been
23472s	better than nothing right at that spot
23474s	you can still thrive back into your
23476s	amulet trade more amulets if you need to
23478s	at this point
23480s	a lot of things that could have still
23481s	been done when the uh when the priestess
23483s	came down i thought the reasoning was
23485s	that it was going to bounce back up to
23486s	uh four mana and then the xyrella clear
23488s	was going to be available but that
23490s	certainly wasn't the case because it
23491s	only went back up to three
23493s	very possible he thought the same given
23495s	the result that came out of that turn
23497s	yeah i'm not sure but we shall move on
23500s	uh that amulet picked up i believe is
23502s	the three four one at the moment yes
23504s	that one does not need any further
23506s	trading which is why you will see it sat
23508s	in hand
23511s	yes you need a two and a three and you
23513s	need to play them in that order after
23514s	the balls have died it's very simple
23517s	can't mess it up it's impossible to make
23520s	a mistake on that simple part of this
23521s	deck yep
23528s	having a good look at these um three of
23530s	these 12 cards remaining in his deck
23533s	good old think
23535s	makes the nourish
23538s	you can draw the other two there you go
23540s	got it
23550s	at what point is the druid here do you
23551s	feel you need to get on with the show
23553s	like yeah your opponents don't want
23555s	cards they've been ticking away
23558s	yeah okay pretty pretty much term one
23560s	like you're on the clock it's what you
23561s	have to do you have to land big stats as
23564s	kwamu's been trying to do he ended the
23566s	last term with two eight eights and a
23568s	six six in play he's ending this term
23570s	with two eight eights in play you have
23572s	to do that every single turn and then
23573s	with battlemaster in the deck that's how
23575s	you are threatening to win the game as
23577s	kwanwu is right now with that light bomb
23579s	used
23580s	uh faceoff i now think knows that he
23582s	doesn't really have any possible way to
23585s	interact with this board state and he is
23587s	just going to face inevitable defeat to
23590s	a battlegrounds battlemaster which is
23592s	surely in hand at this point yeah a
23594s	little giggled to himself though as well
23596s	i'm 7-0 i'm on stream
23598s	probably going to go 2-0 down
23601s	of course this happens doesn't it
23604s	yeah his only way to play around this
23605s	was just to activate combo this turn
23607s	which obviously he can no longer do with
23609s	the hand that he has i believe
23615s	yep trying to find anything here at all
23617s	but no no it doesn't go to 32 but good
23619s	effort
23621s	then strike harder
23623s	and yep he knew that was there 2-0 to
23626s	quan wu i think the boar priest i think
23628s	the only person we've seen is moyan win
23630s	with poor priest and he did it by
23632s	beating silent priest at the end of
23634s	yesterday
23635s	okay
23636s	all the others have been struggling i
23637s	think i don't think we've seen many but
23638s	they've been struggling when we've seen
23639s	them i think
23641s	yeah and certainly i think having the
23643s	the bgbm in druid probably does improve
23646s	that match up
23647s	enormously and because without that card
23650s	what we saw there was a fairly familiar
23652s	pattern i mean questions about um
23654s	face-offs sequencing and rope and
23656s	whatever aside
23658s	um you know card draw card draw
23660s	little board clear from the priest some
23662s	more card draw okay one big board comes
23664s	down boom there's the light bomb second
23666s	big board comes down okay i'm still at
23668s	30 i'll ignore i'll ignore this second
23671s	big board from for now a bit more card
23672s	draw and then the next turn you
23674s	potentially have your ball combo to pop
23676s	off with right however when there's a
23678s	bgbm there is no board that you can
23681s	ignore every druid board will kill you
23683s	so once your one light bulb has been uh
23685s	been confu been confused been consumed
23688s	i'm confused um there's no uh shadow
23690s	word ruin or anything like that as an
23692s	additional card like you see in
23693s	shellfish priest for example um where
23695s	there is both shadow word ruin and light
23697s	bomb usually because quite often you
23698s	have to blow up your own board as much
23700s	as you have to blow up your opponents in
23702s	that deck
23703s	but without that in this version of the
23705s	deck there's really only one large board
23708s	you can clear over the course of the
23710s	entire game because pyromancer generally
23712s	doesn't get it done against druid style
23714s	minions so being able to transform any
23716s	board into lethal with the bgbm probably
23719s	amplifies that match up significantly
23722s	for the druid
23723s	must be nice for kwanwu played two games
23726s	he's damaged his opponent twice
23730s	yeah no i realized straight after i said
23732s	it like when i thought the priestess was
23733s	coming down to make the xyrella clear
23735s	well that's utter nonsense because the
23737s	xyrella clear was never going to do
23738s	anything because
23739s	kwamu just hasn't attacked face off this
23741s	entire series so far so
23744s	apart from when he's going to kill him
23745s	like that's it there's been no no damage
23747s	inflicted
23748s	and actually makes you wonder to some
23750s	degree if
23751s	this is to some extent a target board
23754s	pre-strategy we didn't bring that up
23756s	because that sort of wasn't really on
23758s	the radar but all of these decks do line
23760s	up nicely if you're going to do that
23761s	with that bit of tech against the board
23763s	priest if you count the druid as
23765s	a functioning deck against the rest of
23767s	the field but throwing a battle master
23768s	for this purpose
23770s	yeah i actually don't know i'd have to
23771s	look more into the shaman board priest
23773s	match up to actually give like a
23775s	definitive answer on that because
23777s	genuinely i just don't really know how
23778s	that matchup plays out i have zero reps
23781s	of it under my belt at this point
23783s	um but certainly it's been very
23785s	successful against the ball priest so
23787s	far to the point where face-off is now
23788s	switching off to his own druid which we
23790s	just saw there was single doomsayer and
23792s	a spammy arcanist in there and it's
23794s	going to be the lorinda special i'm off
23797s	for a cup of tea you can handle this one
23799s	on your own mech paladin all the way
23800s	down
23802s	yeah i think i've played fewer games of
23803s	mech paladin than i have a boar priest
23805s	spectacularly but um ones that i've won
23808s	i've definitely won more games with mack
23809s	paladin
23810s	um yeah
23812s	uh this deck i called at the start of
23813s	the tournament i'm gonna stick by
23815s	although it's not been as good as i
23816s	expected it is just good against the
23818s	right things right now i highlighted it
23821s	a bit at the start hunter and warrior in
23823s	particular
23825s	the divine shields are just brutal
23826s	against those two uh favored decks
23829s	and it's okay against everything else
23831s	apart from demon hunter but you can ban
23834s	that so
23835s	you take it it's one of those decks that
23836s	just i wouldn't recommend it for ladder
23839s	really because you're gonna get demon
23840s	hunters out of sight they're always one
23842s	turn ahead of you and you just can't
23843s	catch up
23845s	but for the tournament environment which
23847s	is what we are doing here i think the
23849s	mech paladin was just one of the very
23851s	best brings for this tournament it just
23852s	makes your opponent have
23854s	an extra deck they would like to ban
23856s	that they can't
23857s	and even druid right which is the
23859s	matchup we're going to face uh yes most
23862s	board-based aggro decks do very well
23864s	against druid but just paladin when you
23867s	were talking about the divine shield as
23869s	a specific advantage against hunter and
23871s	warrior it's also pretty darn good
23873s	against druid because divine shield
23875s	minions don't get traded by kelp keeper
23877s	they don't get traded by druid of the
23878s	reef and each bubble eats an entire
23881s	whelp when scale of enyxia or raid boss
23883s	onyxia comes down right so it's very
23886s	very difficult for uh druid to remove
23888s	any of these very sticky minions as well
23890s	and against most aggro decks when the
23892s	druid has stabilized the druid wins
23895s	against that this is still kind of true
23898s	but they've got to deal with a 1010
23899s	every turn it's a little bit different
23902s	is the druid when your opponent is just
23903s	spewing ten tens on the board because
23905s	they've been gaining stats throughout
23906s	the game than it is when you've just
23908s	controlled them and oh they've got
23910s	they've got a deck four three fours and
23911s	a silly little shark who cares
23913s	so when they stabilize the game is still
23915s	not over against this uh the doomsday is
23918s	going to be interesting because radar
23920s	detector gets a free turn to go off
23922s	against the doomsayer if you look at it
23923s	that way
23925s	yeah no sure i can see that doomsayer
23927s	was the one card not kept here though in
23929s	fact because uh
23931s	the keep was wild growth and innovate
23933s	and the doomsayer was mulliganed into so
23936s	that's about what i mean now that is
23938s	an opening hand as you can possibly have
23941s	yep
23943s	and now he has the decision do i just
23944s	want to play the doomsayer so i can
23946s	preserve my innervate maybe for scales
23948s	later just be super greedy
23951s	might be a thing
23953s	because the vest just goes three five
23954s	seven like we all know and love
23957s	yeah the vape doesn't really get you
23960s	anywhere it's just i think the argument
23963s	here is if you vape growth this turn and
23966s	then just go doomsayer hero power next
23968s	turn did your doomsayer then kill more
23970s	stuff and save you more health over the
23972s	course of the game or does that just get
23974s	the doomsayer killed i think that's
23975s	really the only argument that you're
23976s	going to have with yourself at that
23977s	point
23978s	just the two mechs from the detector
23981s	that's a a big whiff nowhere near
23983s	getting the achievement on that one
23985s	is there an achievement for getting all
23987s	five yeah there is i didn't even know
23988s	about i hit it by accident hadn't
23990s	realized what a miracle that was
23992s	because you're the luckiest hearthstone
23994s	player i've ever seen in my life
23996s	yeah of course of course i am subtle
23998s	yeah
24000s	you said that to everybody you've ever
24002s	played against
24005s	uh probably true actually
24007s	at some point or whether all right
24009s	no actually i'll tell you who is
24010s	objectively i know who you're going to
24012s	say
24012s	you can tell them the right answer
24015s	daniel falcone there it is yeah
24018s	is the actual answer to that yeah
24022s	but only when playing it subtle just to
24024s	be clear yeah
24026s	and i have witnessed it
24028s	we we never used a play test because of
24030s	it in fact
24034s	all right it just can't just come back
24036s	it's like
24037s	gold's been testing against falcone uh
24039s	falcone was playing freeze mage and
24041s	we've reached the conclusion that freeze
24042s	mage beats control warrior 98 of the
24045s	time
24047s	and then you switch it around and oh
24048s	it's 91 the other way like it should be
24051s	yeah
24052s	uh i think you've done that haven't you
24054s	you've switched before just to prove and
24056s	it's just gone the other way as well
24057s	yeah
24058s	nice
24060s	all right
24061s	board for face off these are like you
24063s	mentioned good little shield pockets and
24065s	plenty of mana and plenty of stuff on
24068s	the other side is actually looking
24069s	really good for face off here
24072s	as well as you could hope for
24075s	yeah particularly because this hand is a
24077s	little bit clunky and honestly like this
24080s	is my number one objection to mech
24082s	paladin is
24084s	this is of course a false equivalence
24085s	you don't just have to compare these two
24087s	decks to each other because they both
24089s	say mech in the name but if you're going
24091s	to play like a board-based aggro deck
24092s	with mechs in it
24094s	why are you playing the one that has to
24096s	pay mana for their cards as opposed to
24098s	the one that doesn't that doesn't make
24099s	any sense to me mech mage scams like 20
24103s	mana per game like that has to be the
24105s	better deck surely that's how
24106s	hearthstone works
24108s	again i'm not arguing that mech paladin
24110s	is a good deck i'm arguing it's a good
24112s	deck for this tournament but whatever
24116s	devices better in this light mech mate
24118s	so you're saying just divine shields in
24119s	particular divine shields in particular
24121s	particularly because hunter doesn't get
24123s	to trigger their quest from them is the
24125s	real big deal okay um because they're
24127s	removing your stuff and not advancing
24129s	whereas if they're killing mech mage
24130s	things they're um advancing their quest
24132s	and killing your stuff that's kind of
24134s	the big swing for me
24137s	this has certainly been my experience um
24140s	i have played limited games of mech
24142s	paladin because my experience of playing
24144s	against mech paladin is they just play a
24148s	minion for the amount of mana that it
24150s	costs as an aggro deck which just isn't
24152s	good enough in my experience so far in
24155s	this meta game and i've just kind of
24157s	dismissed it out of hand as just not
24159s	really doing very powerful things which
24161s	honestly i know i am aware of the flaw
24164s	in this method because what druid did on
24166s	the other side on this game was utterly
24167s	disgusting but there's one deck in this
24170s	matchup that's paying mana for their
24172s	things and one deck in this matchup that
24173s	isn't
24175s	yeah i mean if you're going to argue on
24176s	a fundamentally power level level i am
24179s	not going to argue at all but i will
24181s	argue a little bit based on the exact
24183s	text we expected to see
24185s	um because it's functional against the
24187s	other decks i'm going to just keep
24188s	sparking it
24193s	makes you happy anyway
24195s	even the mech paladin wants to be mek
24197s	mage look at the minions that just
24199s	randomly appeared uh-huh knows
24202s	it knows look i'm already in trouble i
24204s	can't say any more against mech mage
24206s	this tournament i've already been like
24209s	roasted in public by orange foreign
24211s	orange is the nicest person in the world
24213s	that was naga mage orange isn't going to
24215s	defend oh yeah of course
24218s	it's a mage what's the difference
24220s	even when you're trying to backpedal
24221s	you're still getting it wrong lorendo
24223s	what's going on
24225s	i don't know
24228s	it's almost as if i haven't played
24229s	enough mage
24232s	ramp into a nixia here just to clear up
24234s	even further just add another eight
24236s	eight to the problem
24238s	value trade into the five five perfect
24241s	one welp left exactly push the damage
24244s	face
24245s	deal with this one paladin
24248s	he'll be fine
24251s	uh
24252s	carryall is
24254s	good enough for now yeah
24257s	into leviathan
24260s	our hardships
24262s	will be okay
24263s	look at faceoff's hand it's all the
24265s	removal cards it's fine
24267s	yeah ignore like the 1616 that's coming
24270s	down this time
24272s	yeah sure
24273s	i'm doing sorry the two of them the two
24275s	of them my bad
24276s	yeah is it 16 16
24279s	it's not if you play the oracle first
24281s	correct
24281s	[Applause]
24284s	it's never 16 16 right because it's
24286s	always an odd number it's always an odd
24287s	number yeah so you're just wrong subtle
24294s	i don't know how wrong you are but i
24296s	know you're wrong
24300s	you take off six right
24302s	so it's
24304s	yeah 13 i remember now
24306s	oh yeah that's right well done
24309s	i'll listen to you all along
24312s	oh dear
24313s	well that looks like it's going to be
24314s	2-1
24318s	i must concede what sort of voice lines
24321s	that
24322s	i thought you honorably choose
24325s	i thought the end of that sentence was
24327s	going to be i must concede that mech
24329s	paladin sucks that would have been a
24331s	very fitting thing to hear you say there
24333s	lorinda but apparently not
24335s	we'll see you tomorrow we will see
24337s	subtle in the final when it's mech
24339s	paladin versus mech paladin
24341s	at 0-0
24343s	if it's a 2-2 that means it's the worst
24344s	day all right um
24349s	the year of mech paladin all day that's
24351s	what you're turning into right now just
24353s	i'll wait until next year wait until
24355s	next year that's when it'll come good
24357s	i mean i am
24359s	genuinely someone who does not enjoy
24361s	paladin i don't enjoy this paladin
24362s	particularly much either yeah i'm just
24364s	going to stand by it all right so
24366s	face off on the board the warrior and
24369s	the boar remaining
24371s	we'll get to see the paladin take on
24372s	those in faceoffs order of choice we
24375s	won't talk about how he will decide that
24377s	but people like time on stream so
24379s	he's likely to pick the one he thinks is
24381s	the better choice
24382s	and as we have probably zero stats at
24386s	all about how poor priest gets on about
24388s	against mech paladin i'm gonna say he's
24390s	gonna choose the warrior
24393s	in which case yes um i still think you
24397s	are right in that the control warrior is
24399s	going to be the bigger point of
24401s	contention
24402s	um i do think bubbles are the least
24405s	impactful against ball priest the
24408s	or yeah less impactful than against any
24410s	other deck in the metagame i suppose
24411s	because the way the minions are going to
24413s	get cleared generally is going to be
24414s	with the pyromancer early um it can
24417s	interact fairly well with the light bomb
24418s	i suppose because the light bomb is not
24420s	going to clear up anything with a divine
24422s	shield but unless the minions also get
24425s	big and bubbly then the wild pyromancer
24427s	will still be able to take it apart
24429s	because the the shield is only
24430s	functioning as one extra health in those
24432s	positions
24433s	and so remains to be seen how sticky
24434s	those minions get i think if you get the
24437s	weapon into righteous protector into
24439s	radar detector uh start that he got
24441s	there against druid against priest then
24443s	your minions probably get big enough
24444s	quick enough that they just stick to the
24445s	board against priest and you can get
24447s	there
24448s	that is likely the case um but i think
24451s	priest can probably just about get there
24453s	in the match up whereas we are
24455s	going to see the warrior lorinda with
24457s	the correct read on the player
24459s	psychology and it's gonna be
24461s	coming out from face-off
24463s	yeah absolutely the reason he was
24464s	absolutely logically sound of course
24467s	because we haven't got the stats he will
24469s	do this i mean you do skirt dangerously
24472s	close to like talking like attempting to
24474s	talk to me about cue order which for
24476s	those of you at home who don't know if a
24478s	co-caster tries to talk to me about
24479s	conquest pick order i will leave the
24482s	broadcast in protest and they could they
24483s	can solo cast the rest of it and lauren
24485s	do you get dangerous oh hang on
24488s	right so anyway
24490s	i'm with you tomorrow at some point i'll
24492s	just go straight into the pick order
24493s	good old solo cast none of this being
24495s	corrected nonsense just go for it just
24498s	talk my own gibberish for an hour on my
24500s	own
24501s	because raven who has the solo cast
24503s	happy play i've never seen him happier
24505s	than when he gets to solo castle he just
24507s	gets to prattle away on his own saying
24509s	whatever he wants never been happier
24512s	how do you feel that warrior has
24514s	performed in this tournament from what
24515s	we have seen because i think there's two
24517s	schools but i'm curious as to what you
24519s	think
24521s	uh we're just based on what we have
24523s	looked at so far yeah you can throw in a
24525s	bit of anecdotal what you think
24527s	off-stream might be happening as well
24528s	but yeah
24529s	i mean just based on what we've seen so
24531s	far i would say it's underperformed
24533s	because what we've seen it do is lose to
24535s	demon hunter which is exactly the
24537s	opposite of its job right so i think
24540s	based on our sample size we kind of have
24542s	to say that um but overall in the
24544s	tournament as a whole i think it's
24546s	performed largely as expected just
24548s	looking at the the stats in general
24550s	nothing really seems like a massive
24552s	outlier to me having looked at that it's
24554s	fallen just kind of where i would have
24556s	expected it to to be perfectly honest um
24558s	it's part of i believe the four highest
24562s	win rate lineups
24564s	in the tournament so far um
24566s	or oh no sorry that was the four most
24568s	common lineups that i was looking at
24569s	before the highest win rate whereas in
24571s	terms of match up win rate it's just
24573s	kind of done what you've expected it to
24575s	do right there are
24576s	decks that punish it and there are decks
24578s	that it punishes it's a very polarized
24580s	deck so it's going to trend towards the
24583s	middle of the pack just almost based on
24586s	line up match up rng right which players
24588s	do you face when you have the control
24590s	warrior in your lineup
24591s	yeah part of the reason i ask is because
24593s	it seems to be one of those decks and
24595s	it's weird to me that it's a warrior in
24596s	this spot not some some new fangled
24598s	thing
24599s	um where several players bunny hopper
24602s	being one just think it's the the best
24604s	deck right now and others are just like
24606s	well it just doesn't really draw the
24607s	stuff does it i'm trying to work out if
24610s	that's just an experience based thing or
24612s	if there's literally
24613s	some players playing it miles better
24615s	than others
24617s	i i do think having you know dipped my
24620s	toes in the control warrior water at the
24622s	very least it is
24624s	i do think there is a higher skill
24626s	ceiling than kind of some control
24628s	warrior variants in the past because
24631s	of the need to find creative wing
24634s	conditions with random well not random
24636s	cards but cards that cost random amounts
24639s	of mana over the various courses of the
24640s	game right like the ability to look at
24642s	the bottom of your deck discount at the
24644s	bottom of the deck swap your entire hand
24645s	with the bottom of the deck nargling
24647s	wing conditions nelly win conditions
24650s	mutinous win conditions these all kind
24651s	of vary significantly from match up to
24653s	match up finding the solution to the
24656s	individual puzzle that you're faced with
24657s	in any given match-up i think is a lot
24660s	more difficult than it ever used to be
24661s	the anti-aggro matchups are still very
24663s	much the anti-aggro matchups right you
24665s	draw the removal you blow up the board
24666s	and then when you can actually make a
24668s	board of your own to definitively win
24669s	the game you do that that's just kind of
24671s	control warrior 101 and always has been
24673s	um but it's the kind of outsider
24675s	match-ups apart from that which i think
24676s	have made the deck a lot more
24678s	interesting recently but even that we go
24680s	back to um blize earlier just playing a
24682s	buckler on two he had to it wasn't a
24683s	particularly genius player or anything
24685s	but seeing a buckler played on two is
24687s	your only buckler in hand against the
24689s	aggro druid i think it was you know just
24691s	get out five armor now those sort of
24693s	things don't worry about your combo
24694s	block the board i know i'll find
24696s	something to do with it later there
24698s	seems to be a lot more of that going on
24699s	in this deck as well
24701s	yeah agreed
24703s	and this card finley obviously you're
24705s	talking about the dredge component of
24707s	the deck the finley the use of finley is
24710s	absolutely critical sometimes yeah
24712s	wildly overrated hearthstone card by the
24715s	way but specifically in the deck that
24718s	discounts the entire bottom of the deck
24720s	then drawing that entire bottom of the
24722s	deck in one go yes that's a very
24724s	powerful effect but multiple people i
24726s	saw saying oh you're just going to play
24728s	this in every deck like no you what what
24731s	would you play plot twist in every deck
24733s	no of course you wouldn't what are you
24734s	talking about
24736s	but again it's a card that has a
24737s	standalone value outside of that combo
24740s	but obviously it's in the deck because
24741s	it has the combo but it is a card that
24744s	hey this hand sucks i'll try a new one
24745s	with one less card and one less mana
24748s	and actually we might not be far from
24750s	that point
24755s	bubbles doing their work larinda what an
24757s	incredible point of analysis that was
24760s	look at how awkward these divine shields
24762s	are you're a genius how did you ever
24764s	foresee this it's incredible it's the
24767s	thousands of thousands of games about
24768s	200 million that i've played this month
24771s	could be
24772s	uh nargling from the depths by the way
24775s	is a small out if there ever was a small
24778s	out to go along with uh with suspended
24780s	in hand
24782s	i do like that name for finley
24786s	look at him go
24789s	genuinely
24791s	i haven't taken my eyes off it for more
24793s	than a few seconds at a time like when
24795s	the discover box
24796s	uh popped up i flicked my eyes down to
24798s	the discover box registered what they
24800s	were and then went back to looking at
24802s	finley immediately i can't help it it's
24804s	captivating tj's webcam
24807s	yeah pretty much just um interesting to
24809s	see what he took there in the end from
24810s	that discover because he had the other
24812s	out of
24813s	it's either finley and pray or brawl and
24816s	pray and i think he had to work out some
24818s	some math which he thought was the
24819s	better option
24821s	yeah i mean the weird one is right it's
24823s	the card that you're going to draw next
24826s	so it's a card that you can play before
24828s	finley i suppose is the way to look at
24830s	it
24831s	um
24832s	because you know if you're doing things
24834s	in that order then yeah so he's going to
24836s	dredge it again or discount the dredge
24838s	again
24838s	and then go for the gusto with the
24840s	finley i imagine because that brawl is
24842s	uh still down there and still double
24844s	discounted at this point so now you do
24846s	not pick the brawl under any
24848s	circumstance because you want it
24849s	remaining on the bottom of your deck
24853s	yeah the shield shaft is not much use
24854s	because both of the bucklers are in hand
24857s	oh okay you could also do it this way if
24859s	you really want to pick up the card that
24860s	you just put on the top by using the
24861s	fortune flame sure yeah
24865s	there you go those are things you were
24866s	just talking about um many ways of doing
24869s	similar things for different amounts of
24870s	mana and time
24872s	yeah multiple roads to el dorado as a
24874s	wise man once said indeed
24877s	many times
24886s	frozen buckle of fur
24888s	then
24890s	and he knows the clears on the bottom
24892s	with the armor
24893s	at least one of them
24900s	does he get a second shatter though well
24902s	he knows he's getting the brawl right
24903s	which i think is the card that's getting
24904s	played this time he does get the second
24905s	shield chatter though which is huge and
24907s	now with ricara as well
24910s	that is a huge stack of armor that is
24912s	not going to go anywhere
24917s	and he's going to have these shield
24918s	chatters lined up for the following turn
24920s	he's going to lose 5 armor naturally
24922s	from the buckler
24923s	which means this four attack is doing
24925s	nothing
24926s	he's gonna have a massive armor stack
24928s	for the following turns as you say just
24930s	tempo out of nelly
24932s	true strength comes from between
24935s	okay then
24940s	enjoying face off his face off faces
24944s	as he um processes the different things
24946s	that have been happening in this match
24949s	you to find them all amusing which is
24951s	one of my favorite facial expressions
24953s	do it
24954s	i have to do it right
24956s	double shutter nelly yeah
24959s	seems good
24963s	i mean it's not ideal but you're not in
24965s	an ideal situation so
24969s	it's something
24971s	it's a potential win condition
24980s	what's the other move you lose your arm
24982s	if you don't do it now right
24985s	go depths plumbing again apparently oh
24987s	he's got a brand for next turn now it
24989s	changes things around
24992s	now we might see a mutant instead
24995s	well he's already paid the mana for the
24996s	dredge right so he can't do he's not
24998s	gonna do that at all okay my bad
25000s	yeah i mean the brand the brown was
25002s	always down there right because he'd
25003s	picked it up from the initial dredge off
25005s	blowing up his weapon and then he put it
25007s	back down there again with the finley so
25009s	the brown was always there and it was
25010s	something that i had considered it's
25012s	just for me especially like let's say
25014s	kwamu had done anything that wasn't
25017s	radar detector on the previous turn
25019s	right yeah and you could then i would be
25021s	considering this line more heavily
25022s	because you might feel like you could
25024s	still develop into a fairly weak board
25026s	um but when your opponent fills their
25028s	entire hand up like that i don't think
25030s	personally that you should feel like you
25032s	have the time to do this but maybe about
25034s	to prove me wrong because last time i
25036s	saw six pirates six pirates got an awful
25038s	lot of work done
25040s	yeah let's go the other way with that
25041s	comment you just made let's say he's
25043s	seen his opponent pick up a win
25045s	condition amount of cards in hand
25047s	does one nelly get there yeah okay no
25050s	sure i see the logic of that too
25052s	two entirely contradictory statements
25055s	that both seem to make sense sure
25059s	yeah if he's only going to get 18 done
25060s	with the nelly even though it's
25061s	fantastic and it gets cleared up what
25062s	else has he got
25066s	where is this i guess so high ball of
25068s	30.
25069s	right thinking about it in terms of
25070s	damage though is not necessarily where
25072s	i'm at
25073s	what i'm saying is you can clear the
25074s	board that turn play your your four six
25077s	and your you're sorry your five five and
25078s	your two six you're ahead on board that
25080s	turn and then your opponent plays their
25082s	stuff but then you use three one mana
25084s	pirates to still be ahead on board the
25086s	next turn and then you build from there
25088s	whereas this kind of created that buffer
25090s	um but yes if you're going to hit mr
25092s	smite which you almost always do off a
25094s	six uh six pirate boat
25096s	then i suppose you can just say that you
25099s	know taking that one turn of delay is
25101s	not going to be a big deal and in the
25102s	end while we've been arguing about this
25104s	cuomo just dropped leviathan which was
25107s	honestly a fairly underwhelming amount
25109s	of stats in play right in comparison to
25111s	what potentially could have come out but
25114s	again maybe i'm just stuck in the idea
25116s	that you know mech mage can play 13
25118s	cards with eight mana whereas uh mech
25120s	paladin probably can't
25122s	probably can't but now can put taunts in
25125s	the way in the future of this pirate
25127s	ship
25129s	or rather of its contents
25131s	yeah these annoyer trons are huge in
25134s	this scenario for sure
25138s	but it's not looking good regardless
25142s	no my money's on the wabi at this point
25144s	must admit yeah double smite in there so
25147s	he doesn't even have to do it all in one
25148s	turn if he doesn't want to was there a
25150s	second one found okay yeah i stopped
25152s	paying attention when the first one came
25153s	up
25157s	i can't tell you what the other four
25158s	cards were i just wasn't smite watch
25161s	interesting because there was the option
25162s	here as well to go with uh dredge and
25165s	then draw with the two attacks looking
25167s	specifically for a carryall to play that
25169s	turn right
25171s	um which can then set him up to be
25173s	resistant to the pirates however by
25175s	delaying it for one turn here there's
25177s	still not really a way that the pirate
25179s	ship dies this turn right so he's still
25181s	set up and has used the dredge to put
25184s	the carry along the top anyway
25186s	and is going to be picking that up on
25188s	the following turn for free so i kind of
25190s	like this delayed setup that uh that
25191s	kwon reef has gone for here problem is
25193s	by committing
25194s	trons now
25196s	how is he then going to resist the
25198s	pirates coming through the other way
25199s	because there might still be enough to
25201s	be looking at pushing lethal even
25203s	through carry on the end yeah buffing
25205s	the cars in hand because he knows he's
25207s	going to eat them
25209s	i enjoyed that
25213s	now there's even more stuff
25217s	did miss on the biggest minion though
25219s	unfortunately
25224s	did
25226s	now he's setting up um
25228s	an argument right it's okay well now you
25230s	have to kill my nelly
25232s	because otherwise i'm just going to
25233s	mutinous you to death
25235s	yeah very true our hardships only
25238s	strengthen our resilience which is kind
25240s	of
25241s	without this carry-on at least was a
25243s	checkmate situation it still might be
25245s	but it's
25246s	probably not as he needs to do
25249s	i don't know what 23 times 28 times 256
25252s	yeah i do know what it is there you go
25254s	now is6
25256s	is this still draw card first
25262s	you have two mana to play with here so
25263s	is there anything
25264s	for exactly two mana that you would be
25267s	willing to dredge first and then draw to
25269s	play exactly this turn
25271s	with both the neutrons gone i think the
25274s	answer to that question is no
25276s	you do draw first
25279s	that
25280s	is
25281s	probably correct malware disagrees
25287s	takes the automaton
25294s	raw's the automaton oh you draw first
25296s	because you want to hit smite
25299s	sorry but you you dredge first
25302s	so you can hit smite and buff it for
25304s	your lethal outs
25306s	america's outs
25310s	uh there'd be a lot more relevant if
25312s	there was a mr smite in the deck is
25314s	there not one in there
25316s	no
25318s	well don't do that then
25322s	easy
25323s	meanwhile how much did you say this was
25325s	54 needed i said 56 at the time yeah
25329s	um so it's now 54 so that's 17 29 31
25335s	now see captain
25338s	weapon free
25341s	closer than booter
25342s	needed to be because of exactly the uh
25344s	two man as well the one man i suppose
25346s	seven three coming out on top of all of
25347s	this
25351s	look at it all
25360s	even absolute crazy rng best case
25363s	scenario i think this is still short
25364s	just based on a quick count
25367s	pressing your quick count
25370s	doesn't get less and less as they hit
25371s	costing is significantly less yes indeed
25373s	there it goes all to face in the end
25376s	wow that was an absolutely absurd amount
25379s	of damage
25381s	that'll teach you to 30 me twice in two
25383s	games take 56 idiot
25387s	oh yeah i had it
25389s	when i counted it i had everything going
25391s	face plus the uh two cannons also going
25394s	face with two minions on board and i had
25396s	that as one short so i don't know how i
25398s	managed to get that horribly wrong
25400s	because he still had an entire spare
25401s	pirate attack to go on that turn so
25405s	who knows there were captains there were
25407s	three booters it was all kicking off
25409s	then there's the are they odd or even
25411s	numbers which matters as well when you
25412s	add it up like that
25414s	that's very true yeah that's probably
25416s	where i went wrong yeah rounding errors
25418s	it's always the rounding errors
25420s	yeah we'll go with that
25422s	and the captain actually probably turned
25424s	most of those into rounding error
25426s	numbers smite goes up one of those two
25428s	smites yeah we'll go with that yeah
25430s	they're all odd numbers look here we go
25432s	picking up specifically the uh the
25434s	bloodsail raider is what really made
25436s	that all possible right just having that
25437s	extra additional seven attack eight
25440s	attack minion coming down in that spot
25442s	we'd uh accounted for the double smite
25444s	but the the blood cell raider being in
25445s	there as well absolutely ridiculous game
25448s	from face off and on reflection i think
25450s	absolutely correct to go for the greedia
25453s	line with the the brown boat in the end
25456s	and because i think you know resolving
25457s	that down from my position that probably
25459s	wouldn't have been enough to challenge
25461s	the
25462s	uh the colossus over the two turns right
25464s	i think that would have traded things
25466s	down nicely i think the carrier would
25468s	have then cleared up
25469s	which is something that you also that
25470s	you have to account for because if you
25472s	just if you make your push and you gas
25474s	out even if with the play i suggested
25476s	you win board for an extra turn or two
25478s	quicker you get there quicker and you
25480s	hold it for an extra turn or two longer
25482s	the carriage is still going to keep the
25484s	paladin alive at that point and even if
25487s	it takes them an extra turn or two to
25488s	re-grip the board they have the time to
25490s	do that so i think the plan from
25492s	face-off was absolutely on point on
25494s	reflection there to go dredging for the
25497s	brand that he absolutely 100 knew was
25499s	there because he put it there in the
25500s	first place pick that up take the one
25502s	extra slow turn on board um i would
25504s	still argue that that term played by
25506s	kwan wu was a little bit slower than
25508s	even you might have expected just
25510s	spending seven mana on seven at that
25512s	point as opposed to combinations of
25513s	various cards chucking tons of power
25515s	into play but still i think on
25517s	reflection face-off absolutely 100
25519s	correct to uh to go for what you went
25521s	for
25522s	i'm going to suggest another example or
25524s	a first example maybe of warrior
25526s	being maybe a little bit tougher to play
25528s	than it looks at first glance because
25529s	your your argument was pretty compelling
25532s	at the time let's just just get on board
25534s	and wipe out these these things and have
25536s	some stuff that's kind of how
25537s	hearthstone works
25539s	uh but he worked out especially the
25540s	mutants as well he worked out that the
25541s	mutants was going to be a big deal there
25543s	because
25544s	i don't know if he could predict the
25545s	brand is going to still be there but he
25546s	knows if the ship's still there the
25548s	brand's still there then he gets the
25550s	scene
25551s	no honestly to the contrary i think that
25552s	might have ended up being the actual x
25554s	factor for the whole decision as well
25556s	because if you wipe the board in that
25558s	spot
25558s	um and then you play bran nelly i think
25562s	you have a reasonable expectation that
25564s	that brand might survive a turn at that
25566s	point because your opponent likely is
25568s	not going to want to pop the boat
25570s	they're quite likely to do something
25572s	that the the opponent did on the other
25573s	side at which point if he had planned
25575s	that far ahead to be able to then
25577s	foresee bran mutinis at the same time
25579s	then hats off to him because that is a
25581s	very very very insightful play but i
25583s	absolutely would not put it past someone
25585s	at this level of hearthstone to have
25586s	something set up that far in advance and
25588s	i do think that brand mutants was not
25590s	something that i had considered because
25592s	it could have it could have been even
25594s	better than expected right if a line had
25596s	been gone for where kwanwu chose to hold
25599s	the anoyatrons for example to try and
25601s	play around one of those burst lethals
25602s	at the end if there would have been
25604s	bigger minions than click clockers in
25606s	play to begin with uh there could have
25607s	been you know maybe even an immediate
25609s	lethal set up through that uh carryall
25611s	that came down so i do think very very
25614s	insightful play from faceoff in that one
25615s	very very well earned but now we are
25618s	going to come down to what have really
25620s	been the two problem decks of the series
25623s	larinda with the mech paladin going up
25626s	against the uh boar priest am i right in
25628s	saying that these are the decks
25630s	responsible for all of the losses in
25631s	this series so far
25633s	deck's responsible for all of my losses
25635s	on ladder i know that much
25638s	um but yes you are very much correct in
25640s	that as i'm sure you're taking great
25642s	glee in delivering to me
25645s	but one of them is going to win now
25646s	subtle so you can't be smug for much
25648s	longer
25649s	yeah the poor priest is going to win the
25651s	good deck
25652s	okay
25653s	i hope it does because i haven't seen it
25655s	really do its thing again apart from him
25656s	in that really weird well played game by
25659s	moya against fiori hunter last night
25661s	which i didn't see because i had passed
25664s	out at that point
25665s	there was all sorts going on in that
25667s	game
25668s	because silence priest and me and you
25669s	just like yeah silence piece we know
25670s	about this from five years ago with
25672s	exactly the same cards honest we know
25674s	what we're doing
25677s	i have quite enjoyed most variations of
25679s	silence priests throughout the years to
25680s	be fair
25682s	it's a silly deck
25684s	it really is
25687s	uh all right some cheap stuff there for
25690s	kwanwu which obviously is a mixed
25691s	blessing but right now with a hand he
25694s	has i think it's nice for him he's going
25695s	to fill out the board he's got the
25696s	automaton which is going to be a big
25698s	deal for any of the priest cards apart
25700s	from zoella to deal with
25702s	and
25703s	not scared to insert the one because one
25705s	is not a dangerous amount of damage for
25706s	the piece to have to heal up
25708s	quite happily do that and take a view on
25710s	how much damage he wants to do going
25712s	forward
25712s	yeah or maybe he just forgot for the
25714s	first time in three games
25717s	he's been so disciplined up to this
25718s	point but no i do absolutely agree with
25719s	you i think one damage is no big deal to
25722s	poke into the priest's face at all
25727s	god yep i think take as many shards as
25729s	you can possibly get your hands on in
25730s	this matchup to deal with those divine
25732s	shields if needs be
25734s	oh need will be for absolute sure
25738s	i know what the deck is
25744s	in hand
25746s	the automaton's going to be a very
25748s	annoying
25749s	thing to deal with i know you say that
25751s	the shield is only one health but it's
25752s	already on four health
25754s	how much more does it really need
25756s	yeah not that much
25759s	and it's also um zyrella proof right we
25761s	talk about pyro's clearing it but it is
25763s	cyrilla proof with a big shield on it
25768s	on that front uh faceoff healing his own
25770s	face there by the way which isn't
25772s	necessarily always correct in these
25774s	positions especially when you're playing
25776s	against opponent who has shown that they
25778s	are
25779s	incredibly committed to not pushing
25781s	large amounts of damage against you but
25783s	i think this time around kwamu is just
25784s	putting in that chip damage again three
25787s	is the magic number that's kind of the
25788s	most you can do without really ever
25790s	having to think about it i suppose yeah
25793s	um because of uh gift of the naaru any
25796s	more than that and then you might start
25797s	getting yourself into trouble
25800s	face off using cards the healing's there
25802s	but that's not what he's worried about
25803s	he was worried about getting some more
25805s	stuff in hand because currently he's not
25806s	well equipped to deal with a board full
25809s	of shielded mechs which is what he's got
25811s	in front of him
25813s	and now this has answered the question
25815s	quite we're not messing around he's just
25816s	getting all the damage while he can
25818s	there's no real way to do 13 a turn
25821s	obviously there is ways to do that in
25822s	this deck but yeah realistically you've
25824s	got to chip away
25827s	yeah so i don't think this board is
25829s	going to get dealt with this turn but if
25831s	faceoff can find himself a desperate
25833s	prayer from this thrive in the shadows
25836s	or from the natural draws at some point
25838s	he will be able to likely clear this up
25840s	and any board that comes down in fact
25842s	he'll be able to clear up with the
25844s	second shard the desperate prayer and
25845s	the xyrella in combination next turn but
25848s	that will involve tanking an enormous
25849s	amount of damage in the meantime
25853s	let's just prepare work like that
25857s	sorry
25860s	it doesn't proc shields right it's not
25862s	damage
25863s	no
25864s	what
25865s	let's prepare is just heal for five oh
25867s	sorry yeah i thought you'd be i'm
25869s	thinking of devour it's okay desperate
25871s	okay
25872s	yeah i mean yes for example yeah to
25874s	answer the question you asked which was
25875s	nothing to do with what i was talking
25877s	about shadower devour kills a way a
25880s	click clocker with a divine shield
25881s	without interacting with the divine
25883s	shield yes it's good
25886s	good to know thank you subtle for
25888s	commentating both on what's happening on
25889s	the board and what's happening in my
25890s	head simultaneously
25893s	tricky sometimes
25895s	we can do it
25901s	any world where sneeze is useful here
25904s	probably none
25906s	don't think so no
25908s	i was gonna say is moon catcher too slow
25910s	possibly so yeah gorilla bot makes
25912s	absolute sense just to keep this all
25913s	coming turn after turn
25924s	okay possibilities are now a foot with
25927s	the priestess
25929s	hopefully face-off does not spend too
25931s	long thinking about them because he's
25933s	already uh fallen into that particular
25935s	pit of spikes once during the series
25937s	yeah this is the biggest pit of spikes
25939s	it's trying to calculate it so you waste
25941s	no manner and no cards in this spot fine
25943s	if you can do it go for it
25945s	but if you're not quite sure just just
25947s	play some cards you never count right
25949s	you just see
25950s	get a feel for yeah this is enough to do
25952s	all the things i want to do
25954s	i absolutely agree decision paralysis is
25956s	the biggest pitfall with this deck by
25959s	far
25960s	you just end up doing nothing
25963s	halfway through the turn and it's kind
25965s	of there
25966s	if you waste two mana and you've done
25967s	the things you want to do just do those
25969s	things
25971s	getting angry i'm sure
25972s	[Laughter]
25975s	i'm having flashbacks subtle
25979s	this looks like my games
25984s	i assume that means he's made the
25985s	decision some time ago not to use the
25987s	precess right that's that's all i can
25989s	come to
25990s	though he's now using his six mana
25991s	carefully
25994s	yeah sure
26000s	so when you've decided not to use it now
26001s	now you can just play a proper
26002s	hearthstone turn
26012s	leviathan now coming down the shadow of
26014s	the nari was preserved which gives
26016s	face-off options for shard plus light
26019s	bomb in the future
26020s	he does want to go for that potentially
26022s	even right now
26026s	yep
26027s	it looks like he does have other plans
26029s	still
26031s	i mean he needs to draw as well as clear
26033s	the board right just just light bombing
26036s	doesn't get you anywhere apart from
26038s	killing some stuff
26041s	yeah he's still a long way away on his
26043s	trade balls as well still needs to get
26044s	that done at some point which again as i
26046s	was saying at the start you know it's
26048s	it's it's very easy to forget to account
26051s	for the amount of mana that you actually
26052s	have to uh allocate
26054s	like three trades for three amulet of
26056s	and undying is three mana that you have
26058s	to spend over the course of the game
26059s	which doesn't sound like a lot
26062s	but when your removal costs six and
26064s	you've almost been dead for the entire
26066s	game and it's only turned seven already
26068s	and yes that's an enormous amount of
26070s	mana that you have to spend at some
26071s	point over the course of the game
26073s	quickly
26074s	making the space quite efficiently here
26077s	finally finds the pyromancer that he's
26078s	been hunting for for the last 24 cards
26082s	yep there comes the devour
26087s	able to take some of this damage off the
26089s	board at the very least
26091s	do you get quite a lot of cycles in
26092s	there i'm going to assume for the sake
26094s	of argument which is i probably
26095s	shouldn't given my track record that the
26097s	amulets are now stacked up to what they
26099s	need to be
26100s	did one of them come back after the
26102s	start of the turn i only took note of
26104s	two trades during the turn i'm not sure
26106s	if one came back to the hand after it
26107s	was traded i thought it did but i might
26109s	be wrong honestly at this point
26115s	oh bubble ball again
26124s	asap also ended up using a lot of spells
26126s	there to just deal with what he had in
26127s	front of him last term which means this
26129s	pyromancer or the next part both gonna
26131s	be hard work
26132s	carry or dredge as well which means
26134s	face-off is gonna have to play the hard
26135s	mode version of the match up where he's
26137s	going to need a double weapon to be able
26139s	to get the job done
26145s	that's a three on that i'm pretty sure i
26146s	saw
26149s	is this now just borshard and light bomb
26158s	leaves a freaking s why it doesn't leave
26160s	a 7 8 behind but it still leaves the
26161s	gorilla bot behind
26165s	trades away
26170s	which means is he going to try and find
26172s	it right now with the cleric
26177s	but decide again to like keep on about
26179s	this is what i keep on about the
26180s	decision paralysis you're right this is
26183s	so tough but you try and find it right
26184s	now
26186s	can't get it all done right
26189s	well i believe the other amulet does
26191s	cost zero so i think it would be
26192s	theoretically possible in some world but
26194s	not without knowing the exact make up of
26196s	the death on the other side right
26199s	he also doesn't have any spells left and
26201s	also
26202s	the trader balls would be difficult oh
26204s	he's
26205s	his left leg on board yep having having
26208s	traded away the shard he didn't have any
26209s	way of uh of dealing with it obviously
26211s	with the shard he would have removed the
26213s	divine shield so he would have
26214s	potentially killed the leviathan
26216s	but he would have still left the gorilla
26218s	bot behind but it would have been silent
26219s	so it would have only been a 3-4 or a
26221s	3-1 at that point after the light bomb
26223s	had hit it um but again without knowing
26226s	the exact make up of the last few cards
26228s	left in faceoff's deck um it is hard to
26231s	tell you exactly whether trading away
26233s	gave him shots to go for it i do think
26235s	in some worlds he did have shots to go
26237s	for it with cleric pyro gift blah blah
26239s	blah blah because the other amulet was
26241s	discounted to zero at that point um as
26244s	long as they were juiced up as much as
26245s	they needed to be
26247s	but even then it was going to prove to
26249s	be a difficult game if he didn't get it
26252s	done then um and this is something that
26254s	incentivizes going for it early in
26256s	positions like this as well if he pops
26258s	off this turn the carriage never happens
26260s	right so face-off doesn't have to worry
26262s	about getting that second weapon done
26264s	with the xyrella and getting to that
26265s	point in the game he could just get
26266s	there with the first weapon because guam
26268s	we will never have enough mana to play
26270s	the carriage in the first place uh boar
26272s	priest is very very hard um i don't
26276s	think that was us witnessing the deck
26278s	being played at the highest level it was
26279s	certainly a level of the deck higher
26282s	than what i've reached with it so far
26284s	and i think i'd speak for my co-caster
26286s	there as well
26288s	but certainly not the uh the exhibition
26290s	that we've been waiting for but maybe
26292s	maybe somewhere in top 16 top eight top
26295s	four top two there is a uh a boar priest
26297s	king or queen hanging around that can
26299s	show us how it's done and it might be
26301s	face off i don't think he's been on
26302s	stream many times before if any
26305s	um we usually talk about that a lot we
26307s	didn't today we're kind of getting used
26309s	to players just jumping onto stream and
26311s	not minding so much these days but you
26313s	know i i
26314s	told you about his curve his his
26315s	improvement curve across those
26317s	qualifiers recently maybe this is just
26319s	another step he hasn't yet taken which
26320s	is playing well on stream under the
26322s	pressure especially to my ball priests
26325s	where
26326s	there's the second you turn a camera on
26327s	yourself and play a game of hearthstone
26330s	you lose 30 seconds off your turn i'm
26332s	not telling you how i don't know why but
26333s	i think most players have experienced
26335s	that at some point who have been on
26336s	stream
26337s	your time just goes so much more quickly
26339s	for some reason i don't know if your
26340s	head's full of thoughts of oh what are
26342s	people thinking about my ball preach
26343s	play but
26344s	the time goes somewhere and i'm not the
26345s	only one who experiences this
26348s	maybe we'll see him in the top eight and
26350s	do it properly
26351s	yeah i think in the grand scheme of
26352s	things though if you want to look at it
26354s	from a purely neutral perspective
26356s	perhaps that was the right result in the
26358s	series because um faceoff is actually
26360s	paired down in this bracket so he was
26362s	the 7-0 zero player kwamui was the six
26364s	one player uh so the fact that it broke
26366s	down that way means that both of those
26368s	players now end up on seven one which is
26369s	a qualifying score for top 16 so happy
26372s	days all around i suppose if you want to
26374s	take that away from what you just saw
26376s	yeah absolutely i want to take it away i
26378s	like to watch the players who get into
26379s	the top 16 before they get there we
26381s	don't get to see all of a round of 16.
26383s	we do see every match after that so we
26385s	cover as much as we can
26387s	but that round of 16 has allowed us to
26389s	have a much sharper cut a much cleaner
26392s	cut a much better cut for the
26394s	players involved rather than having
26396s	several players on tie breaks and stuff
26398s	now it's just one or two lucky people
26399s	get into the top 16 rather than like
26402s	nine missing out or something so even
26404s	though we don't get to show all of that
26405s	is like an extra round of swiss and you
26407s	will see a lot of the action tomorrow
26409s	but i think we'll have some more action
26410s	today subtle as well with um
26412s	some more action from this round of
26415s	huge importance for everything going on
26417s	around the whole of the masters tour
26419s	seasonal championships
26421s	last call gun masters all of that being
26423s	decided over the next few minutes
26429s	so without further ado
26431s	let's have a look at the next game on
26434s	the list
26436s	take a short break to set it up and
26437s	we'll be right back
26442s	[Music]
26462s	you
26473s	[Music]
26534s	[Music]
26540s	[Music]
26547s	[Music]
26551s	[Applause]
26553s	[Music]
26554s	[Applause]
26568s	[Music]
26575s	[Music]
26595s	[Music]
26634s	hello everybody and welcome back
26637s	to master's tour voices sunken city my
26639s	name is tj i'm joined by saddle and we
26642s	have the pleasure of bringing you some
26642s	more coverage
26644s	from
26645s	the last round
26647s	of swiss here um last
26650s	coverage you'll see before we
26652s	know who's in our top 16 get to see
26655s	who's going to be battling it out
26657s	for uh that
26658s	championship spot tomorrow sabah how you
26660s	doing bud coming off a a pretty long
26662s	match
26664s	it was it was a full uh five game i
26667s	think both players were hitting the
26668s	ropes sometimes to their detriment in
26670s	the series so it was a long one but it
26672s	was a really interesting one and
26673s	honestly uh i do think a lot of the
26676s	games have been
26677s	incredibly interesting and complex as
26680s	the the tour has gone on which is
26683s	something i kind of predicted right in
26684s	the intro right so i think there are a
26686s	lot of decks that um that lend to it
26688s	where you just get these insane board
26691s	tension kind of positions where where
26693s	both players are in agony trying to work
26695s	out how to find the advantage um as well
26697s	as just players trying to line up
26699s	various things with like dredge mechanic
26700s	combos as well particularly in some of
26702s	these warrior games that we've been
26703s	seeing so um it's been a sort of
26706s	different expression of what good
26708s	hearthstone looks like and we've perhaps
26710s	been used to seeing in some of the more
26713s	combo and burn based metas that we've
26715s	seen previously um but it's still been
26717s	certainly very very engaging it's been
26719s	keeping me on my toes throughout so i've
26721s	been having a good time
26723s	[Music]
26724s	you know who else is having a good time
26734s	okay
26736s	close very close
26737s	um yeah shinimahiru uh versus
26739s	bunnyhopper i believe we're gonna jump
26741s	into this match in progress
26744s	um
26745s	hero is going to be playing the naga
26747s	demon hunter
26749s	um and i think this is going to be game
26752s	two
26753s	and i'm not smart enough
26756s	to look at these
26758s	small boxes and know who actually won
26761s	game one so we'll find out
26763s	i didn't even look at the graphic
26765s	uh it appears bunny hopper won game one
26768s	on warrior from what i'm looking at
26770s	gotcha okay
26772s	thank you
26774s	it's always confuses me from the get-go
26778s	confirmation
26782s	it okay yeah there we go um so buddy
26785s	hopper doesn't have the warrior
26786s	available players had uh
26788s	uh
26789s	very similar lineups
26791s	um coming into this in fact
26795s	i don't want to say it's card for card
26796s	the same but it's not car for cart the
26799s	same their warriors differ slightly
26802s	their
26803s	uh
26804s	quest hunters differ slightly
26806s	and their rapture it's differ slightly
26810s	but same archetypes all the way across
26812s	the board yeah harpoon gun versus no
26814s	harpoon gun uh one fortune in flame
26816s	versus two forged in flames just a
26818s	little differences here and there but
26819s	yeah archetype-wise very very similar
26822s	indeed uh bunny hopper gonna be going
26824s	here with the quest hunter going up
26826s	against the demon hunter on the other
26828s	side um curious as to whether in this
26831s	series we will get to see uh hunter
26834s	versus warrior played out from either
26836s	side because that is a match up that i
26838s	still have a bit of trouble with in
26841s	terms of how i've seen
26843s	very good players play play it's one of
26845s	those things where
26846s	i've seen you know supposedly good
26848s	players play the match up and in my
26850s	opinion play it very badly and then i've
26853s	talked to other very good players who
26855s	then go no no you're right you're not
26856s	supposed to play it like that what
26857s	you're saying is correct and then i've
26859s	gone and cross-referenced that with a
26860s	different player and they've got no
26862s	subtle you're an idiot what the player
26863s	did on stream was right the whole time
26864s	so i basically have no idea what the
26866s	right answer is so it's a matchup that i
26868s	am interested in seeing a little bit
26869s	more of but we will have to see uh if we
26872s	can come down to that a little bit later
26874s	on because for now it is going to be the
26876s	quest hunter going up against the demon
26878s	hunter
26880s	that's right
26882s	now obviously demon hunter can pack a
26884s	ton of damage you know get lady steno
26886s	out
26887s	uh
26888s	really early and with no threat of
26891s	minions from the quest hunter can deal a
26893s	lot of damage and
26894s	and initiate and sometimes win a race
26899s	i do think that especially with this
26901s	version the naga version and not like
26903s	the fell version
26904s	um
26906s	quest hunter should be in a pretty good
26907s	spot to at least take control of the
26909s	early board
26914s	count strike going through choosing that
26916s	over just dropping the battle warm
26918s	vanguard which i do think is correct but
26920s	only specifically because of one card in
26923s	particular and that's barb nets
26925s	i think otherwise i would just be quite
26927s	happily putting two must kill minions on
26929s	the board at once in that position but i
26931s	think barb nets just does too much work
26933s	in a single card if you end up doing
26935s	that so i like playing up the curve here
26937s	with the
26938s	cow strike on two and then battle warn
26939s	on three with the hero power
26943s	strike now
26948s	sounds like a plan
26957s	now how does bunny want to clear this up
26959s	he has an incredibly fast hand really
26961s	available to him here if he wants it
26967s	this turn to be able to clear everything
26969s	if he really wants to try and turbo
26970s	quest you can then also just rip an
26972s	arcade shot of face if he really feels
26974s	like it
26976s	well
26976s	he
26978s	could just go raj najan
26981s	and then
26982s	barb nets
26984s	coin face
26986s	base plus vanguard and then coin wound
26988s	prey yeah
26992s	yeah i don't hate that
26996s	you're pushing a good amount of damage
26998s	and progressing the quest and the next
26999s	turn you just launch arcane shot and
27001s	furious howl
27003s	is it always face plus the tutu or would
27006s	you because you could preserve the 1 1
27008s	minion from wound prey right if you
27010s	double shot minions i don't know how
27011s	relevant that ends up being against
27013s	demon hunter hero power though
27015s	it's probably going to get in
27017s	one damage on average 2 damage on upside
27020s	whereas barbed net is always two damage
27023s	okay agree
27024s	ah
27025s	option c
27027s	don't even call
27030s	all right
27034s	the choice to not coin here does mean
27035s	that you uh lose your face naga to puff
27038s	a fish exactly which is the scenario
27040s	that bunny has been faced with
27052s	a little reasonable pan out though bunny
27054s	has no issues dealing with this
27059s	it's just how does he want to is this
27060s	the furious howl turn now could go
27062s	arcane shot wind prey
27065s	coin furious howl
27068s	um
27072s	i think spending your last mana just on
27073s	the explosive trap this turn is fine
27076s	right and then you can uh reassess on
27079s	the following turn
27080s	okay
27082s	because this allows you to do this
27086s	where are you saying that significantly
27087s	more damage face
27094s	that's the thing you don't necessarily
27096s	even have to clear the minion here right
27099s	yeah
27101s	so this is an explosive trap
27104s	only
27107s	yep it's not like bunny hopper would be
27110s	giving up any information by just going
27111s	here a power face so
27113s	i like it
27117s	and most of the time you'll get a card
27119s	cheap enough next turn to be able to get
27120s	the full three card draw with the
27123s	furious hal
27127s	plus obviously like most of the time
27129s	explosive trap is just immediate quest
27131s	progress that you wouldn't have made by
27132s	casting furious out previously right
27134s	like it's it's rare in a match up that
27137s	is based around your opponent hitting
27138s	you in the face that they are gonna sit
27140s	there and not proc your explosive trap
27142s	just for the sake of not advancing your
27144s	quest progress
27154s	arcanite reaper
27163s	just fury i think
27166s	straight up dimage
27168s	yeah
27169s	he still has need for greed if he really
27171s	needs to draw cards over some point in
27173s	the game
27174s	i think with that plus kurchus plus fell
27175s	barrage
27178s	just looking to counter 30 this game
27183s	that's the worst draw in the deck oh no
27194s	not really any other play but just going
27196s	furious hell i mean i guess
27201s	you never really know with bunnyhopper
27202s	but
27203s	oh no wait that's your law
27206s	a lot of similarities between the two
27209s	but
27210s	i think bunny hopper is more inclined to
27213s	just play cards
27214s	yes
27221s	well wound prey plus piercing shot next
27224s	turn is damage
27228s	i'm just gonna go ahead and get it out
27229s	of the way now so wait yeah
27232s	exactly this is just two for two on
27234s	tavish right now so if he finds an extra
27237s	uh one mana spell on the following turn
27239s	saving the mana now might end up being
27240s	relevant
27241s	yeah i'd love to be able to drop wind
27244s	prey piercing shot combination for sure
27246s	but yeah there's no way that's happening
27254s	[Applause]
27268s	just making sure the game knows very
27271s	clearly what he would like to receive
27273s	here there we go
27278s	um
27279s	emergency maneuvers with treasure guard
27281s	is interesting
27283s	it is yeah
27285s	um
27288s	even with the tavish itself if it lives
27290s	long enough to actually get value out of
27292s	two additional seven sevens which does
27294s	seem unlikely when you're 18 against
27295s	fell demon hunter or uh narcademy yeah
27297s	at this point in the game
27301s	there's more spells than nagas so to be
27304s	honest i've always been
27306s	a little on the fence about the naming
27308s	yeah true
27312s	i feel like the name fell demon hunter
27313s	just evokes the idea that it has jase in
27316s	it though right
27318s	yeah but that's our fault
27325s	i mean i don't think the guy responsible
27327s	for big hoot warlock really has uh much
27330s	skin in the game when it comes to naming
27332s	decks problems
27336s	how dare you
27356s	it sure isn't
27364s	freezing trap was the other secret
27366s	picked up here which is the absolute
27369s	worst case scenario against what has
27371s	happened with the little fell wings
27372s	coming out
27377s	looking very much like bunny is going to
27379s	find himself dropping down to 1-1 in the
27382s	series here
27388s	yeah tracking has to be the choice
27392s	he was off to such a good start but
27395s	then just kind of whiffed on a couple
27396s	turns in a row picked up piercing shot
27398s	tara guard and
27401s	a terror guard i keep saying target
27402s	treasure guard
27404s	who guards terror
27409s	um
27411s	and the tavish came in just such an
27413s	awkward time
27414s	yeah obviously hero for hero davis into
27417s	curtis's
27419s	uh one second quest has a second portion
27421s	of the quest has already been complete
27423s	just feels bad
27424s	yeah
27427s	agreed i think here with these attacks
27429s	with the fury with the fel barrage there
27431s	is infinity damage available to uh
27435s	and this is gonna square up the series
27437s	one game to one demon hunter picking up
27438s	the win against the quest hunter for
27441s	bunny yeah i think your assessment was
27444s	spot on clean opening i think the
27447s	arguable turn was perhaps whether it was
27450s	worth protecting
27451s	the the face nugget against the
27453s	pufferfish term by using the coin bunny
27455s	chose not to can't necessarily call that
27457s	wrong but it's certainly a term that you
27458s	can look at as well but from that point
27460s	onwards
27462s	the setup he had emptied his hand into
27464s	uh into the howl and then the the cards
27466s	he drew both pre and post howe were just
27469s	absolutely not what he was looking for
27471s	he got you know two or three of the most
27473s	expensive cards in his deck from that
27474s	point which was not what he was lining
27476s	up to do i think that is just a bad rub
27478s	of the green at that point um but very
27480s	well played on the other side from uh
27482s	demon hunter and now we will uh move
27484s	forward and still
27486s	um have this potential hunter versus
27488s	warrior matchup which i am very eager to
27490s	watch on the horizon
27495s	as am i
27496s	and also a potential demon hunter vs
27498s	warrior yeah we don't talk about them
27502s	oh i talk about it a considerable amount
27505s	mr subtle
27509s	[Music]
27517s	well i thought you were then going to
27518s	proceed to talk about it that would have
27520s	been the thing that i expected to hear
27521s	but it just it just didn't come so i
27523s	wasn't i wasn't sure whether you were
27524s	done it's classic tj casting no idea if
27527s	and when
27528s	you are you're just pausing for seven
27531s	seconds before you say the next word or
27533s	whether you've just finished talking
27534s	altogether
27535s	you know that's a fair point uh you know
27538s	you talked earlier about being on your
27541s	toes with this meta game and i'm just
27543s	continuing that
27545s	that trend of uh keeping you on your
27547s	toes am i done am i not who knows
27557s	[Laughter]
27559s	so control warrior coming out um we will
27562s	see now whether it's the hunter on the
27563s	other side uh but this does have what we
27566s	will loosely refer to as the orange tech
27568s	in it from uh bunny hopper with the uh
27571s	the gerlock ravager being thrown into
27574s	the mix
27576s	uh sorry from uh shinimahiru not from
27578s	bunny hopper i have my decks backwards
27584s	with of course the idea being that with
27586s	the synergy of sir finley and mutinus
27589s	and both of those cards being extremely
27591s	powerful in a lot of matchups having
27593s	that gorlok ravager in there as well
27595s	just gives you the added consistency
27597s	because of the addition of dredge if you
27599s	have any of sir finley gorlok ravager or
27603s	mutinous in your top 10 or so cards or
27606s	in your bottom five or so cards you're
27608s	going to draw them every game right and
27610s	then by having the gorlok ravager in
27612s	there as well that increases the
27613s	consistency of them hitting the other
27614s	two so it's a cute idea it makes sense
27618s	uh whether or not it just falls under
27620s	you know cute but ineffective or cute
27622s	but revolutionary i think maybe we still
27624s	need a little bit of time to find out
27625s	but it is a very good mechanical idea at
27627s	the very least
27629s	cute and revolutionary is such a deadly
27631s	combo
27632s	[Laughter]
27635s	that was my nickname in in secondary
27637s	school actually
27638s	quickly
27642s	uh if only i knew what secondary school
27644s	was sorry high school would probably be
27646s	really funny the thing is most people in
27649s	this country now refer to it as high
27651s	school because i think a lot of uh
27653s	schools have switched but it used to be
27656s	primary and secondary school for when i
27658s	back in the back when i was a lad tj
27665s	i can only picture you as a as a lad
27668s	just your same exact head just put on a
27671s	much smaller body
27676s	yeah
27678s	honestly not far off
27680s	see
27681s	told you
27688s	here we are
27690s	in the hunter versus warrior matchup
27695s	cool
27696s	there you see it exactly gorlok ravager
27699s	and the mutants both down there picking
27701s	up the uh gorlok
27702s	but yeah so my point of contention in
27704s	this matchup is that obviously i think
27706s	ideally if you are able to do the setup
27709s	where you get exactly zero mana
27712s	repeatable upgraded tavis hero power
27715s	great right like that's gonna beat
27716s	warrior every single time but what i
27718s	think i see too many players do is hold
27721s	out and play very specifically for that
27724s	out uh which bunny hopper now can
27726s	absolutely do if he wants to right
27728s	because he sees the tavish but i've seen
27730s	players at a high level literally sit
27732s	there not casting damage spells waiting
27735s	for the uh the the tavis hero to appear
27738s	before they start doing it whereas in my
27739s	opinion i think if you just start
27741s	throwing damage at your opponent's face
27743s	that still gets there most of the time
27745s	so you should start the game like
27747s	defaulting to that and then only like
27750s	pivot to the tavish if and when you need
27752s	to obviously in this situation bunny's
27753s	dredged the tavish early so he has 100
27756s	flexibility as to how he wants to play
27759s	the game
27760s	dare i ask if you have opinions on this
27761s	topic tj
27763s	um no
27765s	don't ask okay good
27768s	don't ask because i don't glad i asked
27771s	before i asked
27774s	yeah i'm kind of uh
27777s	i always used to say play with your deck
27780s	and not your hand
27782s	but i've always i've only said that in
27785s	practice i always play with my hand and
27787s	never my deck
27789s	right
27792s	and so
27793s	i never wait for tavish
27799s	if he dies he dies
27803s	sounds right to me
27809s	i need your clothes your boots and your
27811s	motorcycle
27815s	uh
27817s	i wish i could say that that would be
27818s	the end of this
27820s	impression but i'm sure he'll be back
27825s	not gonna do it as much as i want to
27831s	i won't play these games with you
27836s	the only thing you play games with tj is
27837s	my heart
27845s	you're just bathing me
27847s	i am you're right nothing randomly
27850s	bursting into songwriting
27853s	i'm so prone to breaking out into song
27858s	if you don't even care you have no
27859s	respect
27869s	stay tuned because after the break you
27870s	will find out what it means to me
27884s	i want to say a little bit surprised
27885s	that with your history you actually went
27887s	for the real version and not the
27888s	butchered michael scott version
27892s	so you can weave in your two favorite
27894s	things bursting into song and making us
27897s	office references
27903s	those are two of my favorite things
27905s	thank you for remembering yeah
27911s	meanwhile a game of hearthstone that i
27913s	said i was interested in about 10
27914s	minutes ago i've almost entirely ignored
27917s	for the last four turns well it's been
27919s	sort of the tavish waiting room you know
27923s	this is
27924s	nearly the perfect time for it yes
27931s	and let's see
27939s	none of them are like
27941s	super good
27942s	i guess ice trap is the only one that
27944s	provides any amount of reasonable
27946s	disruption
27948s	yeah i don't think you're really
27949s	concerned about like explosive trap
27951s	damage just because
27954s	you know with the tavish
27957s	played before the uh quest completion
27961s	you're you're gonna have infinite damage
27963s	it seems at a certain part of the game
27966s	there's board refill after board retail
27967s	so
27973s	oh dredge the viper there as well
27976s	could end up being a really big deal
27978s	here
27979s	big guys trap and emergency maneuvers i
27981s	think emergency maneuvers as you were
27983s	saying about ice trap is the only one
27984s	that really offers utility in the game
27986s	state you're heading towards uh
27988s	emergency maneuvers on huffers for
27990s	example oh dear you're in trouble if
27992s	that happens
27999s	sleeping huffers
28012s	can't make a song out of that
28017s	impressed if you could to be honest
28020s	well i could but
28023s	it just wouldn't be very good is the
28025s	point
28026s	yeah my kids have been watching a lot of
28027s	peppa pig recently
28031s	which makes it even harder to not
28033s	do a british accent whenever i cast now
28036s	[Laughter]
28038s	it's just so ingrained into my brain
28040s	because i just hear it all day long
28042s	you have any idea like i'm not a huge
28044s	peppa pig aficionado but i believe all
28047s	the different animals have like
28049s	different regional different regional
28052s	yes yeah yep
28057s	but if you were gonna ask if they have
28059s	any
28061s	deeper meaning behind it
28063s	well it's gonna say
28064s	any under any underlying message about
28068s	the regions of the uk they don't okay
28072s	i was just gonna ask if you could
28073s	identify any of them was all i was gonna
28076s	probably just because i spend so much
28078s	time around you guys
28091s	that is the juice right there
28101s	reason being i think any board that you
28103s	generated here you would be 100
28105s	confident was going to get immediately
28106s	blown up so
28110s	the fact that you are drawing two cards
28111s	off it
28112s	is absolute best case scenario
28126s	only thing uh bunny really needs to do
28128s	to not
28133s	throw this one would be to complete
28135s	quests before
28139s	uh tavish is playable
28147s	but that's a pretty easy thing to do
28149s	when he ended with the quest completion
28150s	last turn oh ooh
28152s	free hufflepuff
28156s	bait shot your huffer so you can roll
28158s	another huffer this is how you play this
28160s	deck there you go
28163s	now this is pod racing
28166s	it's just
28167s	there oh yeah
28169s	it's just how the deck works
28174s	it's just a hidden easter egg in the
28176s	hearthstone code
28177s	if you are smart enough to dragon bane
28179s	shot your own huffer you get rewarded
28181s	with one shiny free huffer
28185s	and another dragon bean shot
28188s	exactly
28189s	how could this possibly be exploitable i
28192s	see no issues
28208s	um
28211s	this one's going to be tough
28213s	yeah it is
28221s	i guess nelly
28223s	oh
28224s	it's so many half of this tj
28227s	it's a lot of huffers
28232s	just shaking his head like what do i do
28236s	nelly six mr smites
28239s	yeah with bran
28242s	yep that'll do it even then the turn you
28245s	play nelly you probably die
28252s	you spent one mana so far this time
28255s	yep
28262s	i mean this
28264s	very well just could this be lethal
28267s	[Laughter]
28270s	bunny just absolutely not reacting to
28273s	any of this so far okay oh yeah 100
28276s	huffers and leops yep that's what you
28278s	want good sign me up
28279s	there's the dragon bane shot tell the
28281s	game what you want point it at the one
28283s	you want
28287s	another offer
28291s	he's just dead just leave though yeah
28294s	it's just
28298s	buddy just takes his headset off yep
28300s	perfectly normal game of hearthstone
28301s	there nothing to see played that one
28303s	perfectly moving on
28305s	standard day at the office
28310s	bunnyhopper
28312s	and now it's just the demon hunter
28313s	remaining
28314s	and two good matchups
28321s	yes agreed two highly favorable
28325s	match-ups against the hunter and the
28327s	control warrior
28332s	it's just math
28338s	tj
28340s	what are we going to do with you
28346s	thank you very much i'll be here all
28348s	weekend
28350s	maybe
28351s	[Music]
28353s	i just looked like for my own curiosity
28357s	at the off curve data matrix for the
28359s	masters tour uh once again my my once
28361s	per tournament shout out uh to wicked
28365s	good and off curve for the wonderful
28367s	work they do on stats for these masters
28369s	tours the demon hunter match up against
28371s	control warrior is like bright vibrant
28374s	red on its matchup matrix it's literally
28378s	just the games that we've seen on stream
28381s	and
28381s	no others that the demon hunter have won
28384s	in the entire tournament
28385s	well yeah because on stream we watch the
28388s	players with good records ah of course
28391s	of course that makes sense
28396s	you're saying that demon hunter just
28398s	being such an incredibly difficult deck
28401s	to play the only the very best the
28404s	absolute creme de la creme of
28406s	hearthstone players know how to win the
28408s	match up against warren
28410s	yes
28411s	exactly
28413s	legion's rage
28422s	frozen buckler keep yep i think from the
28424s	depths outriders axe where the auto
28426s	keeps there the debate was on the frozen
28428s	buckler and i kind of respect it from
28430s	here
28432s	you just want to keep
28434s	the combo pieces for armor plus
28437s	shield chatter
28439s	pretty much yeah and then
28441s	things that draw those things if not
28443s	exactly those things which is the case
28444s	of course with uh with from the depths
28447s	yeah
28450s	but i'd say that's a pretty good hand
28452s	for seeing him here bunny hopper on the
28454s	other hand
28456s	not a fan
28457s	full toss
28459s	guard about geo
28461s	all right
28468s	this works
28472s	it's not the
28474s	aggressive opening start
28476s	but it's the
28478s	draw a bunch of cards play curtris start
28481s	yup
28488s	yeah very mid-rangey opener now from
28490s	bunny likely spectral sight into man
28493s	creek
28494s	uh okay it got a lot less energy and a
28497s	lot more aggro you real quick
28499s	oh yeah
28503s	coin dredge coming out
28507s	see what is lying on the button
28509s	okay
28511s	there are some good cards down there
28516s	which one though
28519s	never mana rape boss enix here is a
28521s	pretty insane win condition if you can
28524s	get to that point
28526s	yeah and he's playing our rider jacks on
28528s	four he kept it
28530s	but
28533s	so that like kind of goes against ricara
28536s	a little bit oh yeah it chooses rakara
28538s	though
28544s	which case probably just frozen buckler
28545s	shield slam this turn yeah still has the
28547s	heavy plate to activate shatter synergy
28550s	if needed
28557s	uh boom 25 of stats
28568s	an old one but a good one
28571s	i grow impatient
28577s	funny taking his time
28583s	i can't imagine it's not director
28585s	even if your opponent has the shield
28586s	chatter or whatever other way to clear
28588s	this like it's it's a one card clear at
28590s	that point and you have plenty of gas to
28592s	still keep redeveloping afterwards so
28594s	yes absolutely fine with it
28601s	it's still gonna go out rider jacks
28608s	take it ahead because nelly not really
28610s	doing much
28611s	in the hand at the moment
28614s	needs to find that clear
28616s	right now bunny hopper looks like he's
28618s	in a position to kind of run away with
28620s	this game
28621s	obviously things could change incredibly
28624s	quickly
28625s	uh one shield shatter
28627s	i agree
28629s	clear the board in its entirety
28632s	cara plus double heavy plate there to
28633s	gain a ton of armor
28639s	you are
28640s	taking the recurring damage
28642s	all of the existing armor this turn
28644s	though so for there to be a shield
28645s	shatter clear it would have to be
28646s	another big armor synergy card plus the
28648s	shield shatter
28650s	well it's for cara
28652s	well we know that bunny doesn't know
28654s	that is what i'm saying so from his
28656s	perspective i think he
28658s	still will just load up on board here
28660s	yep with the puff fist as expected
28662s	holding back though
28664s	with the weapon charge just going to
28667s	swing for one and then play the weapon
28669s	charge afterwards and i think this is
28670s	motivated specifically by that multi
28672s	strike that is in hand right they can
28674s	cash out ridiculous amounts of damage
28677s	with the uh multi-strike in the glaive
28679s	by holding on to the extra charges
28682s	yep
28682s	also if he needs to can get an extra
28686s	attack
28688s	well i guess he would be able to do that
28689s	anyway because he would have quipped him
28691s	before the attack
28692s	but he holds on to that additional
28694s	charge in this instance
28696s	um
28699s	still needs a little bit more gas
28701s	in terms of damage but once that
28703s	purchase is played
28705s	vector site goes into outcast position
28707s	i think buddy's looking pretty good
28710s	all right provoke
28711s	solid
28714s	directly if you need first
28716s	demonstration number 25 to dispel the
28720s	nonsense myth that has always been
28722s	nonsense that quote battle cries happen
28724s	first no they don't there's another
28726s	demonstration for you director is in
28728s	play before the minions it summons from
28730s	its battle cry therefore attacks first
28732s	into the provoke
28736s	sorry it really annoyed what does that
28737s	mean that battlecry doesn't happen first
28741s	what
28743s	of course
28746s	oh you mean battlecry happens before the
28748s	minion hits the board that's what people
28751s	claim
28753s	who claims that everyone
28757s	it's utter nonsense it comes from people
28760s	misunderstanding the si7
28762s	agent killing a mad scientist
28764s	interaction that's where it started and
28766s	people have been saying it ever since
28767s	and it's just wrong
28770s	sorry i will i will die on this hill
28773s	a size 7h is a combo card
28780s	very true tj
28785s	not sure why that's relevant but true
28789s	there's just no battle cry happening
28791s	i'm confused
28793s	you've just confused me
28795s	i'm pleased
28798s	i don't even know where i am anymore
28807s	you are
28809s	mid voyage to the sunken city that's
28811s	where you are
28822s	just gonna dig really hard for shield
28825s	chatter here yep chill chatter exactly
28830s	and shake of the head means that he has
28832s	about it concealed i guess that was just
28834s	lethal showing on board huh
28836s	with the people with the 10 armor with
28838s	the hero powers yeah that's
28840s	or at the very least bunny hopper would
28843s	be able to put him in critical territory
28844s	there's no way he'd be able to armor out
28846s	of whatever would come next
28848s	from bunny hopper hoping that he has no
28849s	damage so there you go i mean an
28851s	expected outcome
28853s	in that game
28855s	uh you know given that at the top of the
28858s	top demon hunters just favored
28860s	uh in that matchup but uh bunny hopper
28863s	will move up to 7-1
28865s	which means that he secured that spot in
28867s	the top 16 or if you're raven
28869s	even though this is literally the final
28871s	match
28872s	and i can look at it right now
28874s	and see that he's in the top 16 and 7-1
28877s	is guaranteed top 16 if you're raven
28880s	it's 99.9 percent chance that he's in
28882s	the top yes
28883s	yeah that does amuse me during grand
28884s	masters as well because like i have my
28887s	own version which is you know i'm not a
28888s	tournament official don't take this word
28890s	as lore but you know this player has
28893s	done this right for a fact based on my
28895s	calculations raven just goes one step
28897s	further and just like nope
28899s	might still be wrong i'm not going to
28900s	say anything i just i just don't want to
28902s	be rolled on broadcast
28904s	come on now
28906s	i mean it wouldn't even be anything new
28908s	am i right
28915s	wow look there it is
28917s	handsome smiling faces tj habu gabu and
28920s	orange both making it into the top 16.
28923s	two players who i think both said they
28925s	felt really really good coming into this
28926s	tournament habu loving this meta loving
28929s	naga mage orange loving this meta loving
28932s	naga mage can you see a pattern
28933s	developing here tj i think we might be
28936s	on to something
28937s	i think so
28939s	uh this is a pretty good top 16. uh
28942s	there are what five
28944s	uh
28945s	um
28946s	past gms
28949s	in this uh in this top 16 across the
28951s	regions
28953s	orange possessy
28955s	bunny
28957s	letta
28958s	trahezen
28960s	yep that's five
28962s	plus some names that have been around
28963s	for quite some time
28965s	um
28966s	like insane abu gabu cursed
28970s	curse been around forever
28972s	bro yep
28973s	um so we gotta
28976s	uh
28976s	i was about to say the regional
28978s	represent representation is pretty good
28980s	but there's a significant lack of
28983s	america's players
28985s	in this top 16.
28988s	i have to share this because i just
28990s	glanced over
28991s	and saw
28992s	fury hunter had tweeted that
28995s	he finished higher than every single
28997s	america's player and he overslept and
28998s	missed an entire round
29000s	which
29001s	i mean
29002s	you can't say it much better than that
29004s	can you
29007s	we're gonna get zero america's players
29010s	in the seasonal championship oh good
29016s	are we guaranteed one
29017s	i mean what do you want me to say like
29019s	it feels so much like bullying and
29021s	punching down at this point that it
29022s	doesn't even seem funny to make fun of
29024s	the americas region anymore so i think
29026s	what we will focus on instead
29028s	is the incredible representation that we
29030s	do have such a stacked looking lineup
29033s	which i suppose when you take all the
29034s	america's players out what you're left
29036s	with is going to look like a stacked
29037s	lineup right tj
29040s	yeah and i can throw out some excuses
29043s	here on behalf of the americas players
29046s	yeah this is an incredibly difficult
29049s	time so yes it is for america's
29052s	like
29053s	uh even gamers hours don't uh
29058s	don't coincide with uh what the this
29060s	time zone is
29062s	um
29063s	so
29064s	it's been rough it's been rough but
29066s	there you go there's the excuses every
29068s	america's player that's watching right
29070s	now go ahead you can tweet that
29072s	didn't have sleep you got unlucky
29077s	that's it one and two it's a one-two
29079s	punch right there as far as excuses go
29082s	that's all you need any more solid you
29084s	want to throw no more
29085s	i know i mean i think i've said my piece
29088s	at that point but genuinely uh dunking
29090s	on america's aside which you know i
29092s	can't apologies to the americas region
29094s	apollo well actually no no apologies to
29097s	south america and latin america because
29099s	you all you're doing your part it's it's
29101s	just actually
29103s	letting the team okay
29105s	and monsanto okay monsanto okay yeah
29108s	yeah um but i i can't i can't resist
29111s	taking my shots
29113s	specifically with tj uh but jokes aside
29116s	i think that is genuinely a really
29118s	really strong looking top 16. it is um
29121s	cannot wait to see to get into this
29123s	tomorrow and i do think you know again
29126s	jokes aside just because they were in
29127s	the one for no one the first and ninth
29130s	positions uh being highlighted in that
29133s	bracket um two of the biggest naga mage
29136s	enjoyers making a deep run into top 16 i
29139s	think you know might not be a
29140s	coincidence i think that deck has cycled
29143s	all the way through from
29145s	flavor of the day and like the
29146s	pre-release event to oh this deck isn't
29149s	as good as we thought it was on like day
29150s	one and two of release to then harbough
29152s	hitting rank one legend everyone thought
29154s	it was insane again and i think right
29156s	now we're kind of in another valley with
29157s	the naga mage where some people are
29159s	saying oh it fell off and i think habu
29161s	and orange and perhaps a couple of other
29162s	players in that top 16 not sure how many
29165s	of them are running it uh starting to
29166s	fly the flag again i'm like no no we we
29169s	were right a week ago like this deck is
29171s	insane and you should all be playing it
29172s	so really really looking forward to see
29174s	if that can make the run all the way
29177s	it's like brute demon hunter but better
29179s	yeah that's what it reminds me of uh the
29182s	uh the ebb and flow of the deck's
29184s	popularity
29185s	um but uh like saddle said that should
29187s	be a great top 16 to tune in for
29189s	tomorrow
29191s	tomorrow we'll start off right with that
29192s	top 16 and then we're going to run
29194s	straight through we're going to
29194s	broadcast every single quarterfinal
29196s	semifinals and finals until we have our
29199s	champion
29200s	so
29201s	um with that
29203s	we are done
29205s	we will return tomorrow same time same
29207s	place you're not going to want to miss
29209s	it so for myself from the other casters
29211s	from the broadcast crew here thanks for
29212s	watching excited he is look how excited
29214s	he is about the top 16. look it's
29216s	incredible
29218s	who this guy
29221s	oh i'm blurry oh that's what you mean
29223s	yeah
29228s	top 16
29229s	[Music]
29231s	much better outfit stick with that
29234s	yeah i've seen all right so
29236s	that'll do it
29237s	[Music]
29240s	from myself
29242s	from saddle from the other casters and
29244s	the entire broadcast crew thanks for
29246s	watching and we'll see you tomorrow for
29248s	more master's tour voyage to the sunken
29251s	city see you then
29256s	[Music]
29268s	so
29270s	[Music]
29287s	[Music]
29295s	[Music]
29300s	i can see
29307s	[Music]
29319s	[Music]
29330s	easy
29339s	[Music]
29354s	[Music]
29365s	right now
29373s	[Music]
29387s	i didn't even see that that's insane
29389s	what the heck
29391s	that is incredible that's every minute
29393s	destroyed
29396s	[Music]
29399s	the bless that's just lethal right
29402s	bless apoptosis like he's still going oh
29404s	i can't imagine this doesn't end up
29406s	being lethal at some point
29408s	he's just dead on turn five dusty he
29411s	just played a rod and then fell over
29414s	you got to do this entire game
29419s	[Music]
29428s	[Music]
29460s	you

[2022] Masters Tour Voyage to the Sunken City Day 2 | Swiss Rounds 5-8

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