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2s	good afternoon everybody and welcome
4s	back to another last Epoch de
7s	stream as usual I'm your host Mike hi
10s	hello how are you I'm wonderful thanks
13s	for asking we're just going to hop right
15s	in we're playing we're playing our uh
17s	our our Lich Lich girls
19s	still and really enjoying
23s	it especially since splitting the
25s	cooldowns on uh reap the what we get
29s	when we performing and uh
33s	transplant and we are we we we did just
36s	move up a little bit of uh to a higher
40s	level area than we probably should we're
42s	we're 75 and we're we're in a 90 so you
45s	know we'll see how things
46s	go do my
49s	best but the real reason I'm here is to
53s	answer questions for you so if anyone
56s	has any questions they'd like to ask I'd
58s	love to answer them you can put at last
61s	Epoch game in the question although you
64s	want me to answer it and uh as a note
66s	just as always we stream for charity
67s	we're repping a new charity well back to
69s	a previous one but we really like them
71s	so we're back on shot's
75s	play that's where all the everything
77s	from the stream
85s	goes yeah split it's okay still got him
96s	did we
98s	uh did we have some daylight
101s	savings shuffling happening there it
103s	looks like
105s	maybe that hasn't happened yet though I
108s	don't think I don't know it happens in
111s	different parts all over the
114s	world different times
118s	[Music]
122s	I'm really I I know this is like sort of
126s	a almost cruel thing to say oh my
130s	God it's what I get I even I even think
133s	about it and the game's just like nuh-uh
135s	n
136s	nuh-uh just go right back into that
139s	one
141s	um I am really excited to start being
143s	able to share some things uh hopefully
146s	soon cuz there's some there's some
148s	really cool things coming down the pipe
162s	there a lot of features that I know
164s	people have been asking for for a long
165s	time a lot of things that I've been like
168s	internally people have been asking for
169s	for a long time like like tools that
171s	designers want and uh you know all sorts
174s	of cool stuff that we're like finally we
175s	can we can do these things we've wanted
176s	to do for years um and so we're just
179s	just getting early versions of of that
180s	in now
182s	and hopefully it will sustain
186s	us in our quest for
190s	ever ever increasing amount of
202s	content oh what do we got
206s	here don't don't hit that
209s	[Music]
214s	death will not take
219s	me but said something interesting if
221s	there's something I like I I I like
223s	getting some things from from from the
225s	crowd from the audience when
227s	uh when we're working on on a patch like
230s	this and I guess I'm curious if there's
233s	any
236s	um any specific like
241s	gaps big gaps in uh like weapon
245s	theming so like oh there's there's
248s	there's no I like I played a lot
251s	of uh wow and wrath and I would love to
254s	have a a a frozen sword to be able to
257s	use you know something like
261s	that oh was there a question I missed
264s	sorry
267s	Frozen hi Mike hi how's it going
271s	thank you for the sub there congrat it
276s	love it appreciate you thanks for being
279s	here we got a Harbinger NES is
285s	around hey Mike in regards to item
288s	acquisition SL ease of gear progression
290s	what metrics do you you use to determine
292s	what is reasonable people seem to feel
294s	the the more is always better but I
296s	imagine you have some Benchmark to
298s	prevent infinite power creep yeah I mean
300s	there's
303s	um we we don't have a fixed formula
306s	where it's like oh if if they're hitting
308s	certain points by certain levels and
311s	certain time invested that there's a
313s	problem and things like that a lot of it
314s	a lot of this comes down to feel I think
317s	um and a lot of it is a lot of it
319s	requires
321s	massaging uh the the numbers to to hit a
324s	specific feel that you're looking for I
326s	think
328s	uman not terrible getting a little crit
330s	MTI on there
334s	yeah the necrotic damage nice lot
338s	resistances we don't really
346s	need yeah I
349s	might not really much use that's
352s	fine
355s	um so I think the with regards to having
359s	the
361s	um like the power power progression
363s	rates be something that we're happy with
366s	is is is a tricky uh a tricky line to
369s	walk and something that we struggle with
372s	struggles B something that we uh invest
374s	considerable amount of resources into
377s	having that feel really good cuz it's
378s	it's a really important thing um and I
381s	think sometimes this comes up when
383s	you're like when you look at certain
384s	mechanics that might seem a little weird
386s	that they are um
391s	maybe less less free Less open and maybe
393s	a little bit more restrictive and and
395s	quite often it the reason why it's like
397s	that is because of exactly what you're
398s	bringing up here um and so I think a
401s	good example of that is the way that um
404s	empowered monoliths unlock on alt
406s	characters um and and sort of like the
409s	reason why we've been a little bit
410s	hesitant to uh to to just like just
413s	straight up unlock everything it's like
415s	a shared
418s	unlock uh is is because of the like
422s	progression curves being too fast in
423s	some cases cuz you can end up in
425s	situations where you get overwhelmed
426s	really easily um on a character and then
428s	that just feels like oh it's just a bad
430s	character and you give up on it before
431s	it's had had a really chance to shine
433s	things like that there's there's a lot
435s	of
437s	uh you know fine-tuning on on a lot of
440s	these
445s	things um I think that there's also I
449s	think this is it's sort of like the it's
450s	a huge topic I'm just going to ramble on
452s	this for hours if I if I could um I
454s	think there's there's a lot
456s	that there's a lot to dig into as well
458s	when you're looking at the U maximum
461s	potential of of a of a character um I
465s	think a lot of that comes down to like
468s	you know what's what's technically
469s	possible versus what's reasonable and
472s	the relative power in each like step up
474s	to that point so like you you you you
477s	want a character that says okay well
479s	like without two crazy amounts of uh
481s	time investment you want it to be able
483s	to to hit you know a corruption X
486s	eventually type thing
489s	and you you want there to be these these
492s	thresholds that you get along the way
494s	where you're saying like Okay well now I
495s	can I finish my regular monolith I'm
497s	into empowered monoliths and like
499s	there's there's a big there's a
500s	threshold there there's a bit of a jump
501s	you want that to be a like an
502s	achievement getting to that next stage
504s	there's that like okay well this the
506s	first time I'm eventually taking on a
508s	Harbinger and oh this is the first time
510s	I'm taking on aberoth this is the first
512s	time hitting a T4 dungeon these these
513s	benchmarks that you really want people
515s	to hit and to um ideally initially
518s	struggle with um but only briefly so you
522s	want I think that's the that's the key
523s	thing is you want people to hit these
525s	hit these points
527s	um have have a moment of like oh I need
530s	more power have the resources to and and
533s	like reasonableness of time investment
535s	required to get that power and and to
538s	make the upgrade and I think that's the
540s	that's really the tricky part is is
542s	spacing those like hey I need to make an
544s	upgrade and time it takes to actually
547s	get that upgrade spacing those out
549s	properly is is the real trick
560s	um and you know we're like we're always
562s	looking to make there's there's a lot of
564s	fine-tune adjustments that happen most
567s	major patches actually uh in in in that
571s	category so like uh for example we just
573s	added like the glyph of envy and a lot
575s	of the catch-up mechanics around um the
579s	like
581s	the uh the shade spawning just right
583s	right at the edge of the right at the
585s	front in order to catch up from for
587s	timelines that have a lot higher
588s	corruption so I think there's like we're
590s	trying to build Tools in to do that in a
593s	thematic way an interesting way and
595s	convenient way but not having it be too
598s	fast um
600s	and I think it's a lot easier to make it
602s	faster from a player perspective than it
604s	is to make it slower um so we've been
606s	we've been a little bit cautious with
608s	certain things like this and I think
609s	that we're uh um I think there's still
612s	room to to speed things up a little bit
614s	but not a crazy
617s	amount okay well we put a portal in like
619s	the worst spot ever so we're going to
620s	put another one down to replace
623s	it which caused us to pop out of form
626s	which means we're probably going to die
630s	your death has
632s	come I
640s	think Reaper formor
644s	activate of course you want to fight
646s	directly on top of
658s	that all right we got more questions
660s	that I'm going to start answering here
661s	in a moment are there plans on updating
665s	the road map for 1.2 or do you guys not
667s	currently know what's happening going to
669s	be able to do so yeah there are I've
670s	I've seen a I don't know when it's going
672s	to happen um but I have seen some like
676s	uh prototype options for road map
680s	updates
682s	um so I know people people are working
685s	on on uh like another infographic road
687s	map style um I don't know when we're
690s	going to get that exactly but
693s	um you know that type of communication I
695s	think is really important it's it's and
698s	I mean we're seeing some of the issues
699s	with it right now in the sense that we
701s	we made one and you know like stuff
703s	changes stuff changes pretty quickly
705s	it's one of the things about our Studios
706s	we are pretty and not in the programming
709s	sense but in the just general sense we
710s	are pretty agile I me we do Agile stuff
712s	as well
715s	but there's there's a whole other term
717s	there but it doesn't matter so the point
719s	is is that like we
722s	do um we do we do change things on the
725s	Fly quite a bit of like in in response
727s	to feedback in response to um new ideas
730s	people have you know there there's a lot
731s	that happens pretty quickly and having a
733s	road map that goes that reaches far into
735s	the future can leave you open to having
737s	to change that road map and you know
739s	people set expectations and things like
740s	that which is tricky cuz you want to you
743s	want to uphold those expectations but at
745s	the same time you want to just do
746s	whatever's best for the game right um
753s	so yeah there's we we we've had to
755s	deviate from that road map which we've
757s	said before but yeah we we are deviating
759s	from the road map that was posted and
760s	I'd like to get a new version out as
762s	soon as possible um maybe going like one
766s	fewer patches in forward in time might
768s	be smart on that but we'll
776s	see snatch some of this stuff away boom
778s	boom boom boom boom boom tab is
786s	full all
788s	it
791s	A2 here here
794s	here here are more still with the you
799s	love
800s	it exalted
805s	confirm perfect
812s	perfect first
823s	try yeah we got some of this let's let's
826s	grab a little
829s	uh a little B more
832s	power more
836s	power reperform what are we getting
840s	Four Points in
843s	that that all we're
846s	missing more points in
852s	this I think we just want
861s	damage yep want
866s	that sorry I know this is super exciting
869s	but you get to see my build that I'm
871s	totally not just copying off someone
873s	else I
879s	swear uh here we go kill threshold yes
882s	that's desperately what we
884s	need we want another point in that at
886s	some
889s	point and we're coming down here I think
891s	yeah armor show chance
894s	YY get another one of
896s	these we're coming in I think here I
899s	just like the crit
901s	multi give me that give me that damage M
905s	damage love it all right more
910s	questions I should know better oh yes
912s	okay just re repeat ask Frozen you are
915s	forgiven it's
916s	okay hey Mike since I lost everything in
919s	the gold dup in of
920s	2024 oh
925s	no naughty boy it's okay let's see let's
929s	see what rest of this
933s	question uh I found a job cleaning up
936s	the coff players tiers that collected
937s	Around The Eternity cash do you have
939s	anything you can share about the new
940s	dungeon mechanics a new dungeon
942s	mechanics um there's the dungeon
944s	mechanics themselves as far as like uh
947s	new dungeons coming in I don't have any
948s	info or anything like that um you know
952s	like we're we're really focusing on the
955s	play experience leading up to the end of
958s	dungeons
960s	um so you know like I I think one of the
963s	one of the key points of feedback we get
965s	around dungeons are the
969s	um like exalted still um I think one of
972s	the key pieces of feedback we get around
973s	dungeons are
975s	the uh is is is how little fun it is to
979s	actually uh like move through the Zone
983s	because it is um because the the
987s	blockers are frustrating to deal with
988s	right and so you know we've been trying
990s	to find a way to do proper procedural
992s	Generations such that there's uh that
995s	this issue with the blockers is you know
998s	not
1007s	there a couple glps of Envy nice
1022s	just just just grab stuff I I like
1033s	stuff more stuff
1038s	ooh stuff that's saying it's
1046s	good um yeah so so yeah focusing on that
1049s	like that first stage the the the
1051s	gameplay experience of that first stage
1054s	in um in dungeons I think is going to
1056s	really help us
1057s	out uh just to make the dungeons
1059s	experience more fun and and that's
1061s	that's technology that can be applied in
1063s	other places in the game as well
1066s	um I'd also really like to start
1068s	expanding more dungeons I've got a
1069s	couple ideas for dungeons that I want to
1071s	implement still um you know it's a
1073s	really good place to stick unique
1076s	rewards things that you don't want to
1077s	build into an entire system or you don't
1079s	want to tie it to like a mechanic out in
1082s	the world but you also don't want to tie
1084s	it to an item specifically there's
1086s	there's there's a lot of really great
1087s	things that uh having rewards at the end
1089s	specific rewards at the end of a dungeon
1090s	does
1095s	um so I'm looking forward to having uh
1098s	better dungeon technology so we can uh
1100s	make more dungeons
1103s	again I don't think there's I think like
1106s	it'll be fix the dungeons we have first
1108s	and then future updates more dungeons
1109s	think is more likely what will
1120s	happen keep going
1123s	charge
1133s	forward all the damage
1136s	reflection all right more questions
1147s	uh how is the engine upgrade going
1150s	great we are we're fully switched over
1153s	internally
1155s	um I think we're done
1158s	releasing uh content on the old
1161s	one means the the the the feature Branch
1164s	got merged back into main which is
1167s	great means we can work faster
1172s	again less paperwork I love less
1182s	paperwork it's all these hidden costs
1185s	like you think doing doing an upgrade
1186s	like that but the version that's still
1188s	Al so we need to do the version we need
1190s	to do the upgrade early enough that um
1193s	that people that that we we we catch any
1196s	weird random regression bugs so like
1198s	regression bugs are things like well for
1200s	for for the longest time let's let's
1203s	just let's say the the wall the the wall
1206s	that you break in the cave the very
1208s	start of the game to get the veterans
1210s	boots this it's this like little bit of
1213s	out of the way feature you know
1214s	something that you don't check every
1215s	time you play through the game
1216s	necessarily ooh too much that is too
1219s	much
1221s	um it's it's kind of this this silly
1223s	little extra feature right that maybe
1225s	you don't just don't there's no point in
1226s	checking it cuz it's it's just there
1228s	it's worked for years you know and then
1230s	you you do an upgrade like this and it's
1232s	and you forget to check it and time goes
1234s	on and there's this wall that's worked
1237s	forever and it just doesn't work cuz no
1238s	one's checked it in a while and some
1240s	like then people start trying to do it
1242s	and it doesn't work and it's this like
1245s	it's it's a aggression bug that pops up
1246s	you know things like that so we we
1248s	really want we have checked it don't
1250s	worry um we really want it enough time
1253s	to catch things like
1257s	that which is why we the internally
1259s	switch it over as soon as
1261s	possible um after the major patch and
1264s	then what that means is you have to then
1266s	maintain a second development Branch for
1268s	the old version to do things like
1271s	updates to the the event when the event
1273s	ended um and any bug fixing for like
1276s	major issues that are live and it's a
1279s	completely different version of Unity on
1281s	your computer which means you need to
1283s	like you got to set aside a couple and I
1285s	say this literally a couple hundred
1287s	extra gigs of space in order to have a
1290s	2021 and a 2019 version
1294s	um and it's it it it's
1298s	like it takes away it takes away a
1301s	developer from the from the team working
1302s	on the new stuff to maintain the old
1303s	stuff and it's like you're almost like
1304s	you're maintaining two different games
1306s	for a little while and so there's
1308s	like this is this is all part of this
1310s	like hidden costs of of upgrading game
1312s	engines that we've been talking about
1314s	like it's it seems like it's pretty
1315s	straightforward you should just be able
1316s	to do it right but it's these like extra
1318s	little r random cost that you never
1320s	think about um until it's like
1325s	quotequote too
1326s	late um luckily we did think about these
1329s	things and had plans for it and it's why
1330s	it was happen so
1335s	early cuz there's some really great
1338s	people on the team that that thought of
1339s	these things cuz I would not have
1341s	thought of them
1358s	oh so much
1359s	damage oh I was already oh my
1365s	goodness
1366s	yeah I almost want that health bar to
1368s	turn gray when you're in
1373s	reperform
1377s	right where are those boots
1382s	yeah look at those
1390s	boots like I found some
1398s	boots what do I what do I what do I do
1400s	with
1405s	those we want to try and get a CDR
1407s	suffix on there if we can
1409s	can so let's try and seal the ell res
1419s	okay put me over here for a second we're
1422s	we're going to try a little Craft on
1424s	this see what
1425s	happens um but we're going to try and
1427s	seal the L res I think cuz we want to
1429s	get CDR on it oh
1432s	no that what we wanted critical success
1435s	is nice T5 going movement speed is nice
1437s	you know like preserve the forge
1438s	potential
1443s	no still like no Forge to use okay come
1446s	on last try dang it okay so now do we
1449s	take the intelligence off what what
1452s	other prefixes could we put on in place
1455s	of
1456s	intelligence uh if we wanted
1459s	to like
1462s	Vitality that is that kind of it
1469s	that's kind of it isn't
1471s	it I I still think we tried to seal the
1474s	vital the intelligence H we just we want
1476s	more of it though really frustrating
1479s	that ell res didn't
1484s	seal Vitality is always nice I don't
1487s	really need it that much wondering if
1491s	just more intelligence is more valuable
1494s	probably just more intelligence we may
1495s	just go with nothing sealed in this one
1500s	we'll up at once and then we'll try and
1503s	seal for high oh T3 seal okay it's not
1505s	the end of the world Vitality this is
1507s	probably not
1513s	optimal you know
1517s	what I'm generally pretty pleased with
1521s	that uh do we want to try and get a
1523s	higher roll on
1527s	anything that health could use a higher
1529s	role and that's really the most
1530s	important
1536s	thing which one is
1538s	it AES within their tears
1545s	rerolling Health went up it's all that
1556s	matters I'm I'm very pleased with I I
1559s	feel like I want to roll it one more
1560s	time I think I'm going to use it on this
1562s	the last piece on the vitality and if it
1565s	goes up without with a critical success
1568s	or with the the with this working the
1572s	glyph Pope working uh then we're going
1573s	to roll it again I think but for now
1578s	those are just going on I think we we do
1579s	this a little CDR for evade not a big
1581s	deal we don't use that often l a little
1584s	int little armor but we get Ward Decay
1587s	threshold which we don't actually use we
1589s	do get a ton of Health from this though
1592s	which is
1596s	great that's
1603s	nice overall Mike is
1607s	pleased we might slam those into
1609s	something later we'll
1613s	see all
1615s	right this a good pickup
1626s	Chris Farley style agile yeah there you
1631s	[Laughter]
1633s	go
1644s	nice all right
1658s	the the holy and the necrotic together
1660s	feels it feels
1665s	wrong but it
1675s	works all right more questions here we
1678s	go
1680s	you mentioned you guys are working on
1682s	better controller support with targeting
1684s	and uh and it's a far ways out can you
1687s	share any controller features coming in
1688s	the next patch season 2 yeah like the
1690s	the stuff we're working on is coming in
1691s	the next patch season 2
1695s	um the it won't so so the way we're the
1699s	we're building it is um we're we've
1703s	built or yeah we' built a
1705s	new this it's not fully finished yet
1707s	it's not merged in but it's we we're
1708s	we're we're almost done building a new
1710s	way of assigning individual targeting
1714s	systems for individual skills in
1716s	individual
1717s	modes um for controller So like um
1722s	instead of just basically every ability
1724s	targeting exactly the same way they'll
1726s	be like hey this lightning blast is
1729s	different than Whirlwind maybe they
1730s	should Target differently you
1733s	know um and war path sorry not whirlwind
1739s	uh and so there's uh and then there's
1742s	also different abilities abilities can
1745s	change the way they need to be targeted
1746s	based on the nodes they're taking as
1747s	well so we we we were adding in ways for
1750s	that to update on the Fly
1755s	um and we still need to like go through
1760s	every single ability and every single
1763s	method for um modifying those abilities
1766s	in ways that could cause them to change
1769s	how they are
1771s	uh you know
1775s	um that that could change how they
1778s	are uh
1782s	targeted so there's there's a lot
1784s	there's a lot of little work to do and
1785s	there's a lot of things that are going
1786s	to um I think we we probably won't get
1790s	every single one of them exactly right
1791s	on the very first
1792s	try um so we're going to need to you
1796s	know get feedback on like hey oh the the
1799s	when you when you take X node and Y tree
1801s	along with this one you don't actually
1803s	want it to Target in front of you you
1804s	want to Target behind you so we got we
1806s	got to update you know weird things like
1808s	that um so there's going to be a lot of
1810s	things this is a cool item um there's
1813s	going to there's going to be some pieces
1815s	to to that puzzle that are going to
1817s	evolve over time so it's not just going
1818s	to be a hey it's it's fully finished
1820s	immediately um but we are working on we
1824s	are working on that making a list of all
1826s	the places that the abilities can be
1828s	changed
1829s	um to catch as many of these as we can
1831s	right off the
1833s	bat chunk
1840s	there yeah it's it's it's a lot of stuff
1842s	based on targeting um with controller I
1845s	think it's the main thing um you know
1847s	we're also doing like just bug fixing
1850s	for like oh hey this menu it should Auto
1852s	Select this one first and um you know oh
1855s	there needs to be a new hockey button in
1857s	this context menu to to make it a
1859s	smoother experience you know little
1860s	things like that that we're looking at
1861s	for for controller support
1865s	improvements fine
1867s	tuning think controller supports
1869s	actually fairly decent right now
1873s	um you know there's there's there's some
1875s	some places where it's a little clunky
1877s	still and and that's where we're really
1878s	targeting to to make
1880s	improvements and I think the the
1882s	clunkiest part right now is targeting of
1885s	specific situations where abilities do
1887s	not line up with their they the default
1889s	targeting
1890s	nicely your death has
1903s	come all right we just got
1907s	here XP XP XP
1910s	XP so underleveled we need to level up
1913s	so
1914s	fast it's frustrating too cuz there's a
1916s	lot a lot of these that I that I waited
1917s	on
1919s	um it's a lot of damage it's just
1921s	sitting on the table not that one as
1923s	much but these these three are the ones
1925s	that I'm putting points into right now
1926s	and there's a lot of damage just sitting
1927s	on the table on my
1933s	passives all right since the next cycle
1935s	is still a few months away would you
1936s	buff some underperforming skills and
1938s	uniques I think it's unlikely that we're
1940s	going to have a a big buff patch between
1942s	now and
1945s	uh um like a big balance patch in it
1948s	would just be straight buff patch um but
1950s	I think it's very unlikely that we'll do
1951s	a big balance patch in in like I know
1955s	the next few weeks or something like
1956s	that it's it's quite a bit this is part
1958s	of what I was talking about earlier with
1960s	with having
1962s	um uh like split teams on the engine
1965s	upgrade is you can't like we're we're
1967s	trying not to maintain two versions of
1969s	the game at the same time
1974s	um it slows down development of content
1990s	you like if there's if there's a major
1992s	uh major bug we'd fix it obviously
1994s	hopefully obviously
1998s	um yeah I don't I don't think there's
1999s	going to be I I doubt
2001s	it I I don't want to say a hard no cuz
2003s	you never really know but I I I'd be
2005s	really surprised
2011s	all
2014s	right oh what's this what's this what's
2017s	this pressing the right Keys
2022s	helps uh hey Mike as far as I know ESG
2025s	is trying to release seasons in a time
2027s	frame outside of your competitors
2028s	release in the arpg
2030s	genre in general yes where we can yes uh
2034s	if if we're given the choice if we're
2035s	like hey there's these two dates that we
2037s	that we've got that are really good for
2039s	us to release on and um they're let's
2042s	let's say they're a month apart and one
2043s	of them's the same day that Poe is going
2045s	to release the season and the other one
2046s	is a month after or a month before you
2048s	know like we're going to pick the one
2050s	like all other things being equal we're
2051s	going to pick the one that's you know
2053s	away from their
2055s	release
2060s	um I do know where this questions going
2063s	just answered any Discord so I will
2064s	answer it again just going to make sure
2066s	I don't die here first
2070s	uh let's read it out properly
2074s	though as far as I know is trying to
2076s	release seasons in a time frame outside
2078s	of your competitor's releases in the RPG
2080s	genre now that I have seen that GGG is
2082s	planning to push Poe 1's next season to
2084s	q1 2025 I'm a little worried what ehg
2087s	will do with the release of season 2 for
2089s	Le can you elaborate a little bit about
2091s	this um I I haven't heard any
2093s	information of anything changing at all
2100s	kind of the short version
2102s	um you know like the the the options
2105s	are um well a a we don't actually know
2108s	when it's going to be so we we don't
2110s	know the exact date q1 2025 there's
2112s	there's three months there so like the
2115s	the two of us could be targeting
2118s	completely different points in that
2119s	3-month period uh and it's totally fine
2122s	there's nothing to worry about type
2123s	thing you know that's that's scenario
2125s	one uh scenario two is we've targeted
2128s	basically the same
2130s	spot and we're going to overlap and it's
2132s	probably on us to get out of the way uh
2135s	if if we're talking about who's got more
2138s	more more Market pull uh available to
2141s	them
2143s	um and so then our options are like try
2147s	and release earlier if we find out when
2149s	the exact date is early enough that we
2150s	can do that
2152s	uh tons of problems with that namely in
2156s	just that if we're releasing it ear were
2158s	doing it either by cutting content or by
2161s	skipping testing steps which I know both
2164s	of those things uh are are like horrible
2169s	horrible propositions for almost
2170s	everyone involved
2173s	um you know
2177s	like so so I I don't think that's super
2181s	appealing for us um and then like the
2184s	other option is delaying the content you
2186s	know which I I doubt many people want
2187s	either right um so we've kind of got a
2191s	weigh what our best options are how
2193s	we're going to handle that how like how
2195s	close is the overlap is there any
2197s	overlap um you know there's there's a
2200s	lot of there's a lot of information we
2202s	don't know um and a lot of information
2204s	we do know that the public also doesn't
2206s	know so it's It's tricky to um come up
2210s	with the best answer to this and it's
2213s	even more tricky to answer this question
2215s	um cuz I can't really say anything but
2218s	as far as I know nothing's changed from
2220s	our plans um for this for
2227s	1.2 at least not
2235s	yet still desperately need new weapon
2238s	that's that's our
2240s	like sry that's our that's our issue
2242s	here need new weapon
2255s	probably should like go do some go do
2258s	some buying and selling
2261s	here it probably
2266s	help yeah like we we don't want to we
2269s	don't want to release at the same time
2270s	as them you know it's I don't think it's
2272s	good for anyone it's not good for like
2274s	let's start with the selfish reasons
2275s	it's not good for us cuz I want to play
2277s	it and I can't play it if I'm uh you
2281s	know if we're releasing around the same
2283s	time um I'm I'm focusing on on ours not
2286s	theirs and you know I want some time to
2288s	play theirs too so will not take me
2291s	there's the selfish reason not to
2292s	overlap uh and then we know a lot of
2295s	players like to play
2296s	both and
2299s	uh you we also don't want to be
2301s	competing with them for uh people's
2304s	eyeballs
2308s	that was
2309s	close those new boots save me yeah
2355s	me
2406s	oh my
2408s	goodness whoops sorry about that
2413s	everyone how much of that did uh did you
2417s	miss realized I was muted my
2420s	bad okay well uh I don't think I said
2424s	too much
2425s	there what I say I said the name name of
2428s	the next
2429s	patch uh I said the release date said
2432s	all the key
2433s	features and nothing important it's fine
2436s	I'm sure you'll find out
2441s	eventually
2447s	sorry uh what I was just mentioning was
2450s	that I was just reading uh er er Adrian
2455s	Adrian I think comment on uh
2458s	the road maps here Uh I that was
2466s	insightful I I think one of the reasons
2468s	we like to do road maps uh is so that
2471s	people can plan ahead people especially
2472s	people who are you know like content
2475s	creators who are a huge part of uh like
2478s	the last Epoch ecosystem and you know
2481s	help help you know get information out
2483s	to people and uh you know help just
2487s	Drive hype on the game sometimes is
2489s	simple as that you know and it's say
2492s	simple as that it's a huge part of it
2493s	but
2495s	um having having um information that
2498s	they can plan
2500s	out what they're going to do in the
2502s	future I think is is useful for them too
2504s	so it's not just for us it's not just
2505s	for uh people playing but also people
2508s	who are you know partners and people who
2509s	are doing things at the same time other
2511s	content creators and
2519s	those things hurt so much is my poison
2521s	res just terrible
2532s	nope actually have
2538s	decent all right get over here you're
2541s	silly little
2545s	run stuff yeah I love
2557s	stuff maybe maybe it's a weapon it's a
2561s	two-handed
2571s	weapon all right I have a specific
2573s	question about run Master does frost
2576s	wall runic detonation
2579s	inherent Frost walls frostbite
2583s	chance I would have to look that up see
2586s	if we can let's see if we can figure it
2587s	out Frost wall runic
2593s	detonation
2597s	detonation in Frost wall Frost wall
2600s	detonation
2609s	all right Frost wall now creates three
2611s	runic detonations shortly after you pass
2613s	through it dealing spell coal damage to
2615s	nearby enemies this effect does not
2618s	destroy the wall yeah Ric detonation
2620s	runic detonations can be converted to
2622s	fire with the pyl yeah
2625s	um yeah these are created by the wall
2631s	itself I
2633s	believe should be an indirect cast for
2636s	The Wall itself
2642s	yeah it's only it only has references in
2644s	Frost wall yeah this is this is an
2646s	inherited skill um it'll get frostbite
2650s	chance unless it says specifically like
2653s	to see how they're worded in Frost
2657s	wall frostbite is worded as frostbite
2660s	every chance every second so the frost
2662s	ball the frostbite chance every second
2664s	does nothing
2670s	these just
2675s	conversions uh I don't see any frostbite
2677s	chance that would work with
2679s	that unless there's another note I'm
2684s	missing if it had frost by chance from
2687s	like a wand or something like that yeah
2688s	it would
2694s	work are are is there Frost by chance on
2697s	one
2699s	on probably not actually there might be
2702s	on gear somewhere they
2705s	unique okay I'm just seeing if there's a
2707s	way we can make this
2712s	happen Rost
2715s	bite on hit with cold spells adorned
2718s	Idol yeah so there's an idol that you
2720s	can do it with
2729s	oh yeah there's there's an AIX that
2730s	works with it too so yeah yeah the the
2732s	item affixes
2743s	work
2748s	yeah also frostbite shackles would work
2754s	too but that that that's kind of
2756s	irrelevant if it's inherited or not cuz
2757s	if if it's not inherited then you'd have
2759s	those stats anyway
2760s	so kind of 6 one half dozen in the
2766s	other and
2768s	Arena let's get a
2771s	question possibly just die right off the
2783s	bat all right any plans to add
2785s	additional means of scaling minion
2786s	damage also happy Friday I like not
2789s	specifically just minion damage in
2791s	general uh but like there's all sorts of
2794s	situations where individual minions get
2796s	new scaling things and new abilities get
2798s	new scaling things that's that's a
2800s	common thing that gets added to the game
2801s	in general not necessarily specifically
2803s	minions in general but like abilities
2806s	get new scaling factors if they're not
2807s	doing enough damage
2819s	uh do you plan to do a PTR for the next
2821s	season launch feels like a bit too much
2823s	bug to get feels like a bit feels like a
2826s	little bit too much bug get past QA and
2829s	maybe we can help track them down PSU
2831s	seems tired you know work yourself the
2833s	teams for us uh
2836s	ouch uh I'm tired because I am a uh
2840s	young father not uh not the game I think
2844s	at this point but yeah uh fair enough
2850s	um yes uh we do have a PTR oh it's not
2855s	PTR it's PTR cuz it's private um not
2859s	public but yes we do have a um a
2862s	community tester program that we run um
2865s	I don't know if there's I don't know if
2867s	we're in like uh opening up more spots
2871s	it right now or not but we do run a
2872s	community tester program and have for
2874s	years now and are continuing to run it
2879s	I think there's a build that's going out
2880s	to them sometime kind of soon actually
2883s	for new 1.2
2885s	content this is what I mean we're
2887s	testing stuff early
2894s	right death will not take
2902s	me come on Lich form come back up
2910s	there we go damage just skyrockets and
2914s	survivability just skyrockets
2922s	and the last thing it's the last one
2925s	like I know I'll get out ahead of
2931s	this is this anything not really
2939s	I it's not
2950s	bad we might be able to forge that into
2952s	something that that increased physical
2954s	damage we do mostly
2964s	necrotic I kind want just chaos this in
2967s	to something see if we just get lucky
2969s	melee cold
2974s	damage I don't hate just having like
2976s	another flat damage there
2998s	all attributes is
3000s	nice armor shut is
3009s	nice let's go with armor
3016s	shred oh I was considering rolling that
3019s	that's too
3021s	bad in that case
3037s	let's go all the way call it a
3043s	day it says it's a little L an upgrade I
3047s	love the way it looks we're rolling with
3048s	it see let's see what
3052s	happens what's the worst that could
3054s	happen right
3062s	uh any plan to add a way to restore some
3064s	forging potential to bricked items no
3067s	we've this is this is one of those
3068s	things that's really tricky we've uh
3071s	tried to build in ways to do this
3075s	several
3076s	times
3079s	um and it's it's never it's never been
3082s	uh it's never been something we've
3083s	managed to find a way to do i' I've I've
3086s	pitched many many different ways doing
3088s	something like this and it never works
3090s	out
3092s	nicely there attacks me just go way
3096s	up feels like our attacks me just went
3099s	way
3112s	up feels great
3117s	this
3126s	button uh are there any plans for skins
3129s	and MTX for the echo of a world map area
3131s	between Echoes I mean that's really cool
3133s	yeah that was that's something that was
3134s	pitched a little while ago that I love
3135s	the idea of um cuz it kind of it almost
3138s	would act like a hideout in a sense um
3141s	but wouldn't be like out of the way
3142s	which I think is the big problem with
3143s	most hideouts um
3147s	especially when you're playing with
3147s	friends it' be a really natural
3149s	progression to to show it off cuz it
3151s	would just sort of like happen whenever
3152s	you're the host
3154s	um and I think it also makes a lot of
3156s	sense to do it there because of like
3158s	lore
3169s	reasons so yeah I'm a big fan of that
3172s	idea I I don't think we have anything
3175s	specifically planned for it right now
3178s	death will not take
3184s	me yeah look at that
3199s	Envy oh that's a big
3202s	H try not to die
3208s	get all of these that we
3213s	want uh I tell people not just stop to
3215s	pick things up with those enemies around
3216s	I did the exact same
3220s	thing okay let's go this
3223s	way uh how do you feel about more
3225s	quality of life into the game things
3227s	like autoloot partial respect uh partial
3229s	respect of passives Etc partial respect
3232s	of passives you do that already um
3238s	I I think that some things that I I have
3241s	I have a bone to pick with the term
3242s	quality of life I I really do not like
3245s	that term um I know it's it's so
3247s	pedantic and like pointless to to go off
3250s	on it but like every once I feel like I
3252s	haven't ranted about quality of life in
3253s	a while
3255s	[Music]
3256s	um it's it's one of those terms that I
3258s	think it's it it has like intrinsic
3263s	properties to the term quality of life
3265s	like why would you not want to make the
3267s	quality of my life better it's sort of
3269s	the feeling of like like of course every
3271s	quality everything that gets labeled
3272s	quality of life has to go in because
3273s	it's just mean to not put it in it's
3275s	like the vibe I get from the term
3277s	quality of life that's why that's I'm
3278s	not a big fan of the term in general
3281s	[Music]
3283s	um and I think I think there's there's a
3285s	lot of terms I think there's a lot of uh
3288s	feature requests that get labeled as
3289s	quality of life that are not quality of
3291s	life
3293s	um and I don't like that I'm not a big
3296s	fan
3297s	um but yeah I I think that you know
3299s	quality of life features are inherently
3302s	great for players and you know we we we
3305s	love putting them in we love getting
3306s	them in and uh improving the quality of
3309s	life of our players playing the game
3310s	like that's that's that's a no-brainer
3311s	awesome thing to do yeah
3314s	um I I think the line gets blurred
3316s	really quickly as soon as you have
3318s	things that actually make gameplay
3319s	changes
3323s	um
3324s	and sometimes the things that get lck
3326s	lost when quality of life quality of
3329s	life uh features get implemented isn't
3332s	always obvious right away
3337s	um and I think it can be unfortunate
3339s	when it when it actually takes something
3340s	important away from the game so it's
3342s	it's a I think it's a
3343s	tricky uh conversation to navigate
3346s	sometimes uh but generally speaking Yeah
3348s	we we love putting quality life things
3349s	in the game and you know there's there's
3351s	lots of features that we we discuss
3353s	really frequently um
3357s	you know things things like for example
3359s	uh like a key a key inventory uh
3362s	specifically so you're not like
3363s	organizing individual keys in your
3365s	inventory manually things like that I
3367s	would call that a quality of life update
3369s	um and is the sort of thing that you
3371s	know like we are targeting
3376s	um how I'm not popping out of form that
3379s	was so close
3387s	will not take me uh was it autoo I think
3390s	autoloot is one of those ones that I
3391s	would not call quality of life I think
3393s	Auto loot fundamentally changes the game
3396s	for a lot of players and I think it
3397s	causes um I think I think it
3401s	causes uh issues in you know
3406s	like I I think I would enjoy this it's
3409s	different for a lot of people this why
3410s	it's so such a hard topic to talk about
3412s	but like I I think I would enjoy certain
3414s	games less if they had Auto loot
3420s	um and I don't think that's always
3422s	obvious to to be able to see right
3436s	away um and like I I can actually think
3438s	of an arpg that had Auto loot that I
3441s	think was a huge I it was one of the
3443s	like top three things I would change
3445s	about that game is that it had Auto turn
3446s	it off
3462s	um so much
3468s	damage thanks those explosions actually
3471s	do decent
3474s	damage but yeah if there's a you do want
3477s	um and even if I'm talking about it like
3479s	it's not going to happen or something
3480s	like that please still put that in like
3482s	feedback forms suggestions forms places
3485s	that we we collect information from
3486s	players it's all very important and just
3488s	because I say it's you know not
3489s	something that's happening right now
3490s	doesn't mean it'll never happen and and
3492s	just cuz I say it's something that's
3493s	like I disagree that it's a quality of
3494s	life feature doesn't mean we're not
3495s	going to put it in um actually was
3498s	considering wearing Falcon fists on this
3501s	build like not quality of life doesn't
3504s	mean not going in
3507s	just means that we have to look at it
3509s	from a gameplay perspective that's
3517s	all just the attack speed on this really
3520s	it's kind of all that there is for me
3523s	but is a good chunk of attack
3525s	speed and and some some extra fire
3527s	damage but you know who cares about that
3528s	so much we do have good attack speed on
3531s	here already actually I forgot about
3532s	that I we'll leave it
3538s	Leach might as
3541s	well we have a little bit of forging
3543s	potential anywhere that we can eek out
3546s	some extra here there's a little bit of
3547s	Health we'll take
3554s	it nothing nothing nothing whole lot of
3558s	nothing there's any room for any
3560s	upgrades
3564s	yet going that way we're going this way
3572s	I think partial res may have been
3574s	Mastery respect question
3577s	mark in in that
3594s	question which I would advocate which I
3596s	would say is not a quality of life thing
3599s	but I would still advocate for
3603s	it hopefully that makes
3616s	sense another
3623s	sentence more questions can you teas a
3626s	little what stuff is coming for Sentinel
3630s	sure here
3633s	is a uh here's a
3637s	node here's an upcoming node now this is
3639s	we we're far enough out that I'm going
3640s	to put a little big Aster beside this
3642s	and say you know it's this could could
3645s	change could be rebalanced could be you
3647s	know numbers can fluctuate a little bit
3648s	but um hopefully this will wet the
3652s	appetite
3655s	touch so when you jump forwards in time
3658s	all of your devouring orbs are pulled
3660s	towards you
3663s	and it says trigger avoid it's so tiny I
3667s	cannot read
3668s	it uh let's find another place where
3671s	someone sent it to
3673s	me there we go it's giant now trigger a
3675s	void I can stand really far back and
3677s	read it uh but volatile reversal costs
3679s	additional
3680s	Mana so there's there's some stuff in
3683s	there if you're if
3684s	you're going to try and figure out what
3686s	all that means go ahead I'm not going to
3687s	explain it uh exactly but there's some
3690s	there's some stuff to speculate on in
3692s	there if you
3699s	want I I should hear I'm going to do
3701s	this boom I came prepared look a version
3704s	that sits in the corner ready to
3710s	go so I can keep
3713s	playing let me know if it's completely
3714s	illegible though
3727s	stuff I like stuff give me stuff one day
3730s	one of those stuff will be
3734s	useful all right is the gamblers fallacy
3738s	Quest ever coming back so we can get the
3739s	version The Amulet with the lowle
3741s	characters I I think that uh there's a
3743s	decent chance we'll bring back that
3745s	amulet accessible at lower levels I
3747s	don't think it will be through the same
3751s	[Applause]
3754s	Quest my
3758s	God like I just can't stop attacking I'm
3761s	dead probably this is not over that was
3764s	wild
3778s	all right what monster decided to make
3780s	traitor's tongue a dagger instead of a
3782s	one-headed sword and why they decide to
3784s	hurt my feelings cuz they don't like
3788s	you no I I uh I don't
3796s	know it's always it's always tricky when
3798s	there's an effect like that uh that you
3800s	really want on a specific weapon type
3801s	and it doesn't exist there
3810s	it's part of the puzzle though like it's
3811s	part of the like oh you got to find the
3813s	the best thing that fits and is there a
3814s	way to use the things that are there
3816s	differently to make something
3830s	new let's get out of
3834s	here Relic
3838s	a classic to be sure this is this is one
3841s	of the oldest items in the game I think
3843s	this it's up
3845s	there very old
3849s	item all right when can we buy $80
3852s	dollar Dino mounts in Le hopefully never
3855s	uh any plan on adding wings as Cosmetics
3858s	desperately need one to satisfy a weird
3861s	OCD in hns uh oh this is where I was
3865s	muted oh no I wonder how long I was
3867s	muted
3868s	for
3876s	um beb hiring lip
3879s	reader
3884s	uh uh wing wing Cosmetics yeah there's
3886s	there's lots more Cosmetics coming um I
3889s	do not know if any of them are
3892s	specifically like fullblown wing wing
3894s	wings
3896s	um but you know it's something that gets
3899s	asked often enough I'd be surprised if
3900s	no one was working on
3921s	one all right we've got a question
3923s	that's been reped I will find that
3927s	that oops oh I just pinned something
3930s	unpin
3932s	unpin oh gosh Mike what are you
3941s	doing uh unpin this message
3949s	sorry the
3951s	like oh okay I found it it's just right
3953s	above
3954s	it the button for the the pin showed up
3956s	right where I was trying to click I
3957s	swear it's it's my story I'm sticking to
3959s	it that's what I thought also Kane how
3961s	hard would it be for you guys to make
3962s	skills interact with each other like say
3965s	I can say a tornado or whatever and
3967s	someone else cast chain lightning how
3969s	hard would that be for the tornado to
3970s	pick up the chain lightning and become
3973s	electrified um so this I I talked about
3976s	almost this exact scenario last week
3978s	which is crazy um I I used Fireball and
3981s	tornado instead of uh chain lightning
3983s	and tornado because that was the first
3985s	time we tried to do it was Fireball and
3987s	tornado uh 6 years ago and
3991s	um it turns out it's really hard to do
3995s	um we've we released our first skill
3999s	skill interaction along those lines with
4002s	the uh Rune Master update um year and a
4006s	half ago
4008s	now and uh like the cuz you can shoot
4012s	through the uh Frost gate and the and
4015s	the Frost wall I I call it frost gate
4019s	um Frost wall speeds up the projectile
4022s	when it goes through um so that is the
4024s	first interaction of that
4027s	happening um I think one of the only
4029s	ones in the game at the moment
4035s	actually having said that I do want to
4038s	add more um one of the issues is having
4041s	those interactions work cross player so
4044s	in multiplayer which is the coolest way
4046s	for them to happen but uh we need to be
4048s	careful and implement the middle in such
4050s	a way that they don't leave the
4051s	opportunity for griefing um where you
4054s	say like hey um like oh you you've got
4058s	your Fireballs out and they're or you
4059s	got your tornadoes out they're doing
4060s	physical damage and if you like shoot
4064s	lightning blast at it it turns into uh
4066s	an electrified version and the damage
4068s	type changes and you're no longer doing
4069s	physical damage and something stops
4072s	triggering and your whole build falls
4073s	apart
4076s	[Music]
4077s	um so you almost you almost need people
4080s	to like opt into the interaction on both
4083s	ends of it like taking nodes that are
4085s	like oh yeah this now works in this
4087s	interaction with this other ability that
4088s	other people can use and uh if you're
4091s	not uh in a multiplayer scenario it does
4095s	nothing um so you end up with these
4097s	nodes that are only good in
4100s	multiplayer
4102s	um and you know people are having people
4105s	are like hey well not want to resp for
4106s	going in and out of
4108s	multiplayer
4111s	um there's there's there's problems with
4114s	it uh I'd really love to resolve those
4117s	problems I don't know how to resolve
4119s	those problems right
4128s	now so much attack speed feels so good
4144s	but yeah I think in general it's the
4145s	style of thing that we are starting to
4147s	explore a little bit more a little bit
4148s	more as we go um cuz it is interesting
4151s	it's fun it's cool it's um you you look
4154s	at the situation it behaves really
4155s	logically which is great um like
4159s	logically is not really the important
4160s	part but intuitively is and often things
4162s	that are logical are intuitive so um
4169s	you know i' I'd love
4173s	[Music]
4175s	to uh I don't think there's
4178s	any major things in that category
4180s	planned for 1.2 that I can think of off
4183s	the top of my
4186s	head but if you've got one in particular
4188s	that you're really interested in you
4190s	know dropping that in the suggestions
4191s	for hims great idea he's a definitely no
4196s	one's looking around for ideas right now
4197s	and things really really
4200s	Niche uh applications of skills you know
4203s	that's definitely it's definitely not
4204s	something someone might be interested in
4207s	at all right
4210s	now uh all right hey any plans to
4213s	provide more direct feedback to reported
4215s	bugs or issues uh statuses such as
4218s	rejected uh no uh work in progress in
4221s	review would be great and to be honest
4222s	since I did not see anything in the
4224s	release notes for some issues rep a
4226s	while back it feels like it just does
4227s	not make sense to report bugs at all
4230s	um this this is one of those things that
4234s	like uh generally speaking no we don't
4237s	really any PL to do
4238s	this um and and I think it's one of
4240s	those things that is probably
4243s	underestimated in how much extra time
4245s	and effort and work and just Dev hours
4248s	this eats up uh to to
4252s	do and um it's kind of like would you
4255s	prefer for less things be
4258s	fixed
4260s	and um us report on the like provide a
4264s	tracking system for the things that are
4265s	fixed or or do you just want the game to
4267s	be better sort of the options like we
4271s	can just make the game we just fix more
4273s	things uh or we can report on all the
4276s	things that are
4278s	fixed
4280s	and um when there's when there's like a
4282s	really major
4284s	issue we do we do try and provide a
4286s	little bit of extra feedback on those in
4288s	context in um in in patch notes and in
4292s	patch previews and things like that so
4293s	so we are we we do try for the really
4295s	big things we do try and do that but
4296s	like an individual node that's bugged in
4299s	a specific combination with another node
4301s	or something like that is the the the
4303s	reach on something like that is so small
4306s	that uh tracking it doesn't really have
4309s	a big impact except for the people that
4311s	are actively trying to use it which yes
4313s	it does have a big impact for those
4314s	people but it's it's a it's a small
4316s	reach
4318s	um and trying to do each one of those
4321s	negatively impacts everyone because
4324s	other things aren't getting fixed
4325s	because we're spending more Dev hours on
4326s	on a public tracking system for it take
4340s	me so probably not
4349s	all right I'm wondering how hard it
4350s	would be to create a fluent animations
4354s	to make possible for a character to
4355s	throw a spell while moving for now it's
4358s	a bit weird when I'm spamming with
4359s	spells and trying to move I mean every
4361s	time the character stops in place I
4362s	should have looking at the screen um we
4366s	we do we do have those animations they
4369s	exist uh in in certain specific
4373s	situations but for the most part it's
4376s	like this this is one of those things
4378s	that it's not just an animation issue
4380s	it's a gameplay issue um causing things
4382s	to be usable at instant speed I.E while
4385s	moving um causes them to be suddenly
4387s	usable while channeling um while
4390s	channeling a movement ability like
4392s	actively using them in the middle of war
4394s	path for example um and also then it
4397s	brings up issues of uh this is this is a
4400s	big part of the
4403s	um uh like the wasd movement and the
4406s	twin sck movement uh type control
4408s	schemes that that that do change pretty
4410s	heavily expectations for that to be uh
4414s	to to be present in most abilities and
4416s	also does change power level quite a bit
4418s	as
4419s	well this is a good example one of those
4421s	things where it's like oh it's a quality
4422s	of life thing it's a pretty big gameplay
4424s	change um I know you didn't use the term
4427s	quality of life but
4430s	uh I I think it's a similar issue
4433s	similar categorization
4437s	[Music]
4438s	here we
4444s	go all right we got more questions
4447s	rolling in I got more answers coming out
4450s	who knows if they're
4456s	right sell all button when uh unlikely
4461s	the
4463s	the the potential for people to just
4465s	cell things that they really wanted to
4467s	keep is so high with a cell all button
4470s	um and we don't really want to and it it
4473s	has the downside and this is going to
4475s	sound ridiculous it has the downside of
4477s	incentivizing people picking up more
4479s	stuff um because it makes it removes
4482s	friction from the selling action uh
4484s	which which causes people to pick up
4486s	more things which we actually don't want
4488s	people to pick up more things in general
4491s	not substantially anyways
4514s	all right uh what would be a better way
4517s	to describe quality of life feature yeah
4520s	well that's the thing is is I don't
4522s	think there is a better way to describe
4523s	a quality of life feature but I think
4524s	that there are better ways to describe
4526s	features that are that might feel like
4528s	their quality of life but
4530s	aren't um and it's just a gameplay
4538s	feature yeah this quality of life I
4540s	think think there's
4541s	like quality of life and like a gameplay
4545s	feature is something that is uh it
4547s	changes gameplay you know it's
4550s	a I don't know else to describe it yeah
4555s	how do you feel about the state of
4556s	trading is I feel like the one trade
4559s	limit on an item takes way too many
4561s	items out of the economy yeah it's I
4563s	think it's a tricky situation um we we
4566s	definitely considered having like a
4568s	limit like all this item can be traded
4569s	like four times and having that be a
4570s	property of the item when it
4572s	drops
4573s	[Music]
4575s	um which isn't impossible to do but um
4579s	the the Simplicity factor in just one is
4582s	really good um
4597s	I think we're we're in a bit of a a bit
4599s	of we're we're in a lull right now um I
4602s	think
4604s	the uh as as the population size as the
4607s	player population size drops it's more
4610s	advantageous to have items stick in the
4611s	in the um economy longer
4615s	but when we're in a high um High player
4618s	activity time having those items come
4620s	out of the economy is really healthy for
4623s	it um so it's possible that like you
4626s	know I think it's one of those things as
4627s	we get more data as we get more
4629s	information um you we might make
4631s	adjustments to it but we're pretty happy
4632s	overall with it I think right
4639s	now all right have you ever done player
4641s	tests on auto loot of shards and seen if
4643s	the experience was better or not
4649s	um uh I don't think we've ever done a
4652s	public play test with that something
4653s	like that
4654s	influenced um we've definitely tested it
4657s	internally and it's it's also one of
4658s	those things that's really hard to uh I
4661s	think tell if something's being taken
4662s	away from the game cuz it is a very
4664s	subtle thing
4666s	um I'm I'm I'm really trying to say this
4669s	in a way that I'm not actually pushing
4672s	for one thing or the other um
4676s	but I just think that's an example of a
4680s	uh a thing that gets requested as a
4682s	quality of life feature frequently that
4683s	I don't think is a quality life
4685s	feature regardless of if it's good or
4700s	bad I think it's it's one of the things
4702s	that like basically every game feature
4704s	is um it depends on context a lot like
4707s	there's games there's there's features
4708s	where in certain games they don't work
4710s	and in other games they do work which is
4711s	part of the reason why you can't just
4713s	like look at another game and say hey I
4715s	like that feature I'm going to put it in
4716s	my game cuz quite often it won't work
4718s	that way
4738s	we
4739s	go chunk chunk
4746s	chunk attack speed buff is so
4750s	nice hey dream Thorn we don't hate those
4754s	they're fun they're cool Taste of blood
4766s	all right let's fill up this
4779s	stash all right any plans on more micro
4784s	Communications feel like there's a lot
4785s	of these questions you already thought
4788s	about uh internally and you might be
4789s	tire uh tired to answer
4792s	them more micro Communications
4798s	uh like just like little posts I
4803s	mean you don't want to think you don't
4805s	want to hear all the things that I think
4806s	about with regards to the game it's a
4808s	lot of garbage but yeah I mean uh we we
4811s	have started uh a new monthly
4813s	communication program where we release a
4815s	newsletter every month um for you know
4818s	just like musings and things we're
4820s	talking about and things we're we're
4821s	looking at uh so I think there's there's
4823s	some element of that that we're we we
4825s	are considering right
4842s	now
4846s	um yeah probably probably nothing
4849s	nothing a major difference anytime
4852s	soon other than the the monthlies oh get
4855s	out of
4860s	that got I got to be more active in my
4863s	positioning I'm realizing that that's
4865s	what's getting me is I'm just like
4867s	getting complacent I'm like I'll leech
4869s	through
4871s	anything apparently I also turned into a
4873s	1950s reporter at the same time but
4875s	that's
4879s	okay get back here
4881s	Spider-Man uh right
4888s	like that ow my
4898s	face sometimes I can though and that's
4901s	what gets me
4912s	overconfident all right I know there
4914s	probably lots of different opinions on
4915s	this but are there any plans about
4916s	skipping the campaign if you've done it
4918s	once already
4920s	um I think
4923s	there's
4926s	uh
4928s	so there's a ton of thoughts on this we
4930s	we hear feedback uh for and against this
4932s	all the time it's it's a really common
4934s	topic and I I don't want to dismiss it
4936s	by saying that
4938s	um I think that most of the feedback
4941s	that we get on it boils down to people
4943s	are are and you know I I could be wrong
4946s	on this I I say this and and people
4948s	don't generally correct me when I say
4949s	this but you know if I if I am please
4951s	tell me
4953s	um I I think the feedback that that
4956s	we're we're getting from players with
4958s	regards to wanting a campaign skip uh is
4961s	less that they want to campaign Skip and
4963s	more that they're not having fun with
4966s	like like if if we're going to look at
4967s	the the the the the feedback as a like
4970s	here's the problem here's what we're
4971s	experiencing here's when X happens I
4973s	feel Y which is the best type of
4975s	feedback we can get um I think players
4978s	are feeling uh you know bored with the
4980s	leveling process
4984s	um and uh I I I think just slapping a
4988s	campaign skip on the game doesn't fix
4992s	that um so I'm I'm hesitant to to to
4997s	explore a campaign skip if if the if the
5000s	feedback is the leveling process is I
5002s	like is boring or something like that um
5005s	um I think there's other ways to address
5009s	that um you know like and it doesn't
5012s	even it can be it can be really indirect
5014s	things as well um so
5017s	like what are the things so if if the
5019s	leveling process is boring or or not fun
5022s	or you're not enjoying the leveling
5023s	process and you want to um have a better
5025s	leveling process okay so why is the
5027s	leveling process not fun for you uh I I
5030s	think is is the first place you have to
5031s	start looking for information and I
5033s	think it's um there's lots of different
5034s	reasons why that could be the case um
5036s	and I think it varies from player to
5038s	player and I don't think there's like a
5039s	just a one single answer to that but
5041s	let's let's let's pick an example let's
5043s	pick a hypothetical answer to that and
5045s	let's explore how we can fix that in a
5047s	different
5049s	way um I'm literally making this all up
5052s	on the spot so please uh this is not a
5055s	announcement of plan feature or anything
5056s	like that
5058s	uh just the thought experiment right
5061s	now um so let's let's say um
5065s	okay maybe it's you're you're leveling
5067s	characters too
5069s	frequently um and so because you're
5071s	doing it a lot and the process is too
5074s	similar each time it's not
5078s	interesting okay so so there's two
5080s	there's two things there um there's the
5082s	process is too similar and you're doing
5083s	it too frequently um so maybe if we just
5086s	reduce the frequency that players need
5088s	to do the campaign um in like per cycle
5093s	or per per season sorry excuse me uh may
5096s	maybe that
5098s	is
5100s	um like maybe for for some players
5102s	that's just enough like oh you if you're
5104s	if you're only doing it twice per s or
5106s	per season or three times per season
5107s	instead of six times per season or
5109s	something maybe that uh that process
5111s	becomes more fun CU you do it less
5115s	frequently uh I hypothetical maybe and
5118s	so like then then you can start looking
5119s	at uh creative ways to do um let's let's
5123s	go back to okay here we go let's go back
5125s	to a previous question that someone
5126s	brought up that I guessed what they
5128s	meant cuz I think it was a typo but I'm
5129s	not sure which I think they were asking
5131s	for Mastery respects so let's say um as
5134s	an example you you put Mastery respects
5136s	in the game suddenly players are um not
5140s	like if if they wanted to to to get a
5142s	paladin or they and they they start the
5144s	game Paladin and like oh now I want a
5146s	forge guard you don't have to relevel
5148s	the forge guard and you're not going
5149s	through the campaign an additional time
5150s	on on that season and so you're doing
5152s	the campaign fewer times and maybe the
5154s	campaign just naturally becomes more
5155s	interesting because you do it less often
5157s	I I I don't know if that actually works
5159s	you know like there's but but I think
5161s	there's lots of different ways to come
5162s	at the problem and I think the important
5163s	feedback is the important thing to look
5166s	at important place to start at that the
5167s	feedback is hey what's what's the how do
5170s	I feel when something happens you know
5172s	like how's how's the what what's the
5175s	actual issue
5177s	here and just I want a campaign skip is
5180s	is like it's valid feedback and fine I
5182s	just I want to explore why you want a
5184s	feedback I want to why you want a
5186s	campaign Skip and I want to explore um
5188s	if there's maybe even a better way to
5190s	maybe maybe you don't want a campaign
5191s	skip maybe there's an underlying issue
5192s	that's causing hey a campaign skip is
5195s	the solution that you've thought of
5196s	which might be a perfectly valid one but
5198s	maybe there's another option too that's
5199s	even
5206s	better that's what I'd like to explore
5208s	so if you have thoughts on um why or
5213s	like what you're feeling that's causing
5215s	that that's that's maybe triggering the
5216s	request for a campaign skip I'm really
5218s	interested to hear that feedback
5222s	um and if I'm completely wrong and just
5225s	wildly off face I'm also interested to
5227s	hear that feedback
5228s	too Mike's wrong is
5231s	uh something I'm used to hearing
5245s	hopefully that was a a good rant a yes
5249s	come on let me ah it popped out
5258s	yeah got
5265s	him all right regarding passive tree I
5268s	was talking about the system like D4
5269s	where you can edit however you like
5270s	until it's valid okay I was here we go I
5273s	was wrong with my assumption but yeah
5274s	understand what you mean so like where
5276s	you you get system where it's like
5277s	respect mode and it's like right click
5279s	to remove a point left click to add a
5280s	point you just like make all the changes
5282s	and it's like okay you've got this many
5284s	changes
5285s	done accept the whole thing at once I
5287s	think that would be
5290s	better I just got to the
5292s	2:00 time point that means we're half
5295s	hour behind D not
5296s	great I will try and speed up thanks for
5299s	the thanks for the warning there Kane
5302s	appreciate you hello Mike nice nice
5304s	Friday I noticed that recently although
5307s	or because most defensive layers that
5309s	you can build through gear protect you
5311s	against hits dot damage seems to the
5313s	biggest struggle when it comes to
5314s	tankiness in the endgame either ailments
5317s	or dots pools both seem to be the
5319s	biggest source of damage we take is this
5321s	intended and if it is can we expect more
5323s	ways to deal with it in the future
5327s	um I don't I don't think it's like
5330s	strictly intended that hey the scariest
5332s	thing are dots you know um but I do
5336s	think it's important that there are dots
5337s	that are scary I think scary dots
5340s	especially um as as as dot pools that
5343s	can be spawned underneath the player is
5345s	a really good tool for um and it's
5348s	something people mention a lot is the
5349s	hey like we want some reason why um it's
5353s	difficult to play a ranged character you
5354s	know like some skill element in uh
5357s	player positioning when playing a range
5359s	character uh compared to playing a Melee
5361s	character CU quite often you get um
5366s	more uh natur just just naturally hit by
5369s	things as a Melee
5371s	character which I think can be
5372s	frustrating cuz it can seem like it's
5374s	it's harder to play as a Melee character
5376s	you know in some cases it is
5378s	um so I think that there's uh there
5382s	there's a lot of room
5385s	for I I think really powerful ground dot
5389s	placement things like effects like that
5390s	is a really good way to say like hey
5392s	ranged character move you know um
5396s	whereas like a giant melee slam is a
5398s	better way to generally say hey Melee
5400s	character move
5406s	um
5409s	and uh I I yeah I I think that there's I
5413s	think it's good that there are really
5414s	dangerous dots uh in the game um do I
5417s	think they always need to be the most
5419s	dangerous thing
5422s	no um I think that having new defensive
5427s	options that let you proactively deal
5429s	with dots would be really good um I
5431s	think they they need some sort of
5435s	like just just straight up slapping an
5437s	AIX in that's just like oh less damage
5439s	taken from dots
5443s	um or something like that is is probably
5446s	not the best
5449s	option
5452s	um as the only thing to do if like if we
5455s	were hypothetically trying to combat
5456s	that
5462s	situation but yeah I I think adding new
5465s	um new axes in general is really good I
5468s	think that we we we we frequently
5472s	hey that's what I'm talking about right
5475s	there okay now we need an egg now we
5478s	need an
5482s	egg that feels good that feels feels
5484s	really
5494s	good your okay we we've been we've been
5497s	weapon hunting for a few weeks
5501s	now and this is this is the one we're
5503s	looking
5505s	for
5508s	yes yes so happy we got that
5521s	it says it goes down that's
5523s	funny I know it doesn't because of all
5525s	the extra stuff but
5528s	like H the reduce bonus damage taken
5531s	from crits means we're going to change
5533s	our do we have full crit avoidance right
5537s	now we have no crit of voids oh my
5542s	God okay well we need the rest of that
5549s	then will not
5554s	me attack speed just took a huge
5561s	hit but the hits are way bigger
5574s	I think overall big big Improvement
5576s	right there that just happened also
5578s	defensively
5584s	too thrilled on that
5590s	one come with me I I need to heal off
5592s	you in a
5598s	sec what did I just do oh just grabbed
5602s	my slack channel on the other screen and
5604s	just like stretched it weird all
5622s	right all right will not take uh can you
5626s	tease the insane 50% buff to the 100
5629s	flat HP uh execute threshold on Shadow
5632s	strike making kill enemies at a massive
5634s	150 HP
5638s	instead yeah I'm still not sure why that
5640s	one's so low it almost feels just like a
5643s	a thematic piece not a functional
5647s	piece it
5662s	elud he
5665s	uh hey hello hi
5667s	there hey hi
5669s	hello uh hey how's it going hey
5674s	there is so good okay uh I know you're
5678s	you're working on game accessibility can
5680s	you already speak about it any high
5684s	contrast mode oh gosh I'm not even
5687s	looking at the screen uh if there'll be
5690s	a high contrast mode if it'll be
5692s	customizable uh
5697s	uh oh I bet that's outlines of objects
5701s	and characterize customizable characters
5703s	background elements and other I hope in
5705s	these things to put my hands on the
5710s	game uh there's I don't have any details
5713s	on specific accessibility features that
5715s	are coming but if you want to request
5716s	them head them on over to our uh
5719s	suggestions channels
5726s	oh man I want a I went the wrong
5736s	thing I want a
5740s	uh Nemesis so bad right
5744s	now uh will we get more types of
5746s	environments Maps oh
5748s	yeah oh yeah
5756s	we we've got there you know there's
5758s	things that are that are pretty close to
5760s	being able to tease but they're just not
5762s	quite there so you're not allowed to say
5763s	anything I really want to say
5766s	[Music]
5767s	something I'm not allowed
5777s	impossible your has come
5785s	all
5786s	right uh is it possible to make glyphs
5789s	autoc consume on pickup like maybe an
5791s	option for that uh it is technically
5794s	possible for us to Auto pick them up we
5796s	don't have any intentions to do
5798s	so if you'd like us to consider it head
5801s	on over to the suggestions
5812s	channel uh all right uh merch store
5815s	update when I don't know come
5819s	on it's got to happen soon
5826s	right I've actually had to start giving
5830s	some of my merch that I've had from like
5832s	conventions and things like that and and
5834s	this is going to sound weird but to my
5835s	mom
5850s	so come on guys I need uh I need a store
5852s	so my mom can buy stuff instead of
5854s	taking mine please I don't have that
5857s	many
5865s	left there's even like there's even a
5867s	few signed playmats out there from uh
5871s	from uh Gamescom last year
5882s	impossible right more questions when it
5884s	comes to griefing from skill
5886s	interactions the original Frost wall
5887s	flame W uh node plus a friend with
5890s	minions running through the frost wall
5892s	instantly deleting all of your Mana was
5893s	fun yes but that only hurts yourself so
5896s	you you put yourself in that situation
5898s	and we also fixed that I
5900s	think didn't we I think
5907s	but yes that was a a a exact perfect
5911s	example of what I'm talking about being
5913s	an issue you will not take
5924s	me like if if you saw someone using that
5927s	you could be like all right I'm going to
5929s	and you're like playing a necromancers
5931s	or like a a like I'm just going to slap
5933s	the skel on my bar for a second and have
5935s	them run through
5957s	there all right more questions I get
5960s	this is the problem is I get caught up
5961s	I'm like oh yeah I'm playing doing so
5962s	good here I forget to answer
5966s	questions all right Mike will you play
5968s	poe2 Early Access I'm not sure yet
5971s	depends on timing um I played it a
5974s	little bit already at Gamescom and it
5976s	was
5978s	awesome when it comes all right answer
5982s	that uh I disagree wonderful I like
5985s	disagreements well I don't know I like
5987s	conversations and debates
5989s	um more direct feedback to bug reports
5992s	uh just sec
5994s	I don't want to
6000s	die I'm interested to hear what you have
6002s	to
6004s	say but I also want to fight this
6009s	boss and I'm going to need a couple
6011s	shots at
6014s	it in my opinion the spirits of fire of
6019s	the three level 91s is the hardest to do
6021s	the
6022s	harbinger uh early
6025s	as your like first
6028s	Harbinger so I like making sure you
6030s	don't have to fight a Harbinger on it
6031s	when you're first leveling a
6052s	character I'm going to get to question I
6054s	swear uh you mean you most likely have
6058s	any kind of database to track bug fixes
6061s	anyways right oh I see what you're
6064s	saying um this this is on the
6068s	the
6070s	um having having like an open Bug
6072s	reports form things like that yeah
6076s	um in integrating it directly into our
6079s	into our existing bug tracking system um
6085s	it's it's not really an option for us
6087s	I'm
6099s	sorry all
6102s	right uh there's an item in the merchant
6104s	skill that doesn't exist in the game yet
6106s	or was it removed what is the heirloom
6109s	of
6111s	light I have no idea
6116s	uh it's probably on last dep tools then
6119s	as well and I might be able to go look
6120s	it up and see if I can figure it
6122s	out but just from the name I have no
6130s	idea you're merely a
6133s	pawn there's a couple items that have
6136s	been added to the game without any
6137s	purpose by
6139s	mistake uh maybe not by mistake but just
6142s	like
6144s	they probably shouldn't have been
6145s	released yet or they got picked up in
6147s	some like data scrapes and things like
6149s	that
6151s	um let's find out what we're talking
6153s	about heirloom of
6155s	light see if we can find
6158s	it I no idea what you're talking
6164s	about your of light is not on lasty
6167s	tools
6179s	heirloom of light okay it's a different
6182s	website that has it implicits just
6184s	health regen
6185s	Relic just some health regen and health
6187s	gain on kill this is terrible this item
6192s	um I suspect this
6196s	was uh a placeholder for an item that
6200s	got started and just wasn't wasn't ready
6203s	to to be added into
6205s	the um release files yet and just got
6209s	added by mistake maybe it was like
6210s	someone just started something and never
6213s	got this this looks like just an
6214s	uncompleted
6215s	item I've I've never seen that
6222s	before it's not like a tease to
6225s	something or a preview or something or a
6228s	puzzle to figure out anything like that
6234s	I bet I bet like so I really have no
6235s	idea what that item is but if I'm going
6237s	to guess I'd say we'll probably see it
6240s	as an actual item with the same name and
6243s	completely different statistics like
6245s	like just nothing's the same it it
6248s	really looks like someone's just like
6249s	just just made the item and uh it's like
6252s	a copy of something or just like cuz
6255s	some default stats or you know like
6267s	little bigger of a hit than I wanted to
6279s	take okay more questions uh can you
6282s	share stats of the ratio between CF and
6284s	mg players might have already be done
6286s	and I missed it it has not been done you
6288s	did not miss it I'm sorry no I
6290s	can't uh hi hope you and e team had a
6294s	good week we
6298s	did was it was a personally difficult
6302s	week but overall I think it was
6313s	positive uh for the next big patch is
6316s	there new music planned yeah enjoy the
6318s	soundtrack especially the End of Time
6319s	music would be great to get more thanks
6321s	yeah there's always there's always new
6322s	music on the pipe
6325s	uh I know you're working on game
6326s	accessibility already
6333s	asked uh I know you won't see this for a
6336s	while but my personal issue with the
6339s	campaign and this is not limited to last
6341s	Epoch is that it feels like a running
6343s	simulator where the focus is on getting
6345s	from point A to point B more than
6347s	killing monsters or monos do a better
6350s	job of incentivizing killing monsters
6352s	even while you search for the objective
6354s	that's a good point I think there's
6357s	um probably just room for like so what
6361s	if hypothetical like let's let's I think
6364s	that's a great starting point to to to
6366s	to look at this issue um and I think
6368s	that having a like a a specific thing to
6371s	focus on on why it's not enjoyable for
6373s	you is is like is a fantastic way to
6375s	start looking at that problem um and
6377s	maybe start tackling I'm not saying the
6379s	I I guess I should be clear um I think
6382s	there's more than one way to tackle
6383s	these problems and one of those ways
6385s	could be just ending a campaign skip but
6386s	there might be other ways too that might
6388s	be better who knows
6391s	um and so like maybe just uh increasing
6395s	the like the ways you can do like having
6398s	more dungeons having more ways for like
6400s	small skips if you're head on experience
6402s	um and things like that and then giving
6405s	um enemies in the campaign a lot more
6407s	experience um option like like ways to
6410s	get more experience or or have a be if
6411s	you're underleveled you gain experience
6412s	faster even NE possibly and like having
6417s	having ways for more experienced players
6418s	to jump through the campaign faster
6420s	because you're killing things more so
6422s	like incentivizing killing things more
6424s	in the campaign might be a way to help
6425s	with
6427s	that or like alternate routes through
6430s	zones and I don't
6442s	know circling back to campaign skipping
6445s	uh how do you feel about one campaign
6447s	run per stash except for hardcore
6452s	um I think I assume this is like per
6454s	season cuz it has to be per season I
6456s	think that's that's an important thing
6457s	that it's kind of just got to be per
6459s	season no matter what
6464s	um how do I feel at one campaign run
6466s	person me personally um I see this is
6470s	this is the problem is I actually like
6472s	having the campaign be part of the new
6474s	character
6475s	process
6476s	um and I think that even if there was an
6479s	optional skip straight to monos I would
6481s	still just do the campaign to level
6482s	myself um so there's kind of there's
6485s	kind of the like the developer mic brain
6488s	and the player mic brain and I kind of
6489s	have to reconcile between the two so if
6491s	um if we're asking player Mike brain
6493s	which do I think I want I I would I I
6495s	don't like it cuz I think I'd be
6498s	incentivized to just jump into the into
6500s	the monolith uh directly which I would
6502s	be like n I'd rather do the campaign cuz
6504s	I like the campaign but I know not
6506s	everyone does so like looking at it from
6507s	a developer perspective I kind of have
6509s	to take that into account as we all do
6514s	um and I'm not sure how I feel about it
6519s	otherwise yeah cuz like there needs to
6522s	be a leveling process for each character
6524s	regardless right
6534s	Eternal you into
6538s	a you will be
6545s	Eternal
6552s	burn I'm not going to answer questions
6554s	for this right now I should uh it's a
6557s	long question that I can't read that
6558s	whole thing while this is happening a
6560s	Mike you should have got the question
6561s	before starting this what were you
6562s	thinking
6566s	you will
6573s	be
6575s	burn
6583s	theame okay oh I'm sorry I I I might
6587s	have a shot at
6589s	this I'm right now trying to get them
6591s	all kind of low similar
6593s	times please start this guy's last chain
6596s	okay here we go can I kill these guys on
6598s	top of each other I can and
6602s	room no okay this is bad this is bad I
6606s	think I just have to
6615s	wait
6618s	etal I think I I don't think I can go in
6620s	there until it reforms up
6627s	oh God it immediately fell
6632s	no this is a
6635s	problem or a blessing a
6638s	problem
6641s	um um would you please come out
6645s	here would you please I I I really would
6648s	appreciate it if you would walk out here
6651s	you will be
6654s	out the flame is
6659s	fading okay ooh
6663s	yeah yeah that's just
6668s	yeah perfect roll on it too
6679s	yeah all right that went better than I
6682s	expected actually
6685s	woo 1.2 was delayed for the uh for the
6688s	upcoming arpg landscape uh and an engine
6691s	upgrade mostly however now that that was
6693s	upcoming airG landscape was also delayed
6696s	partially into 2025 is it now right in
6698s	the middle of your public release window
6699s	for q1 2025 do you think you all will
6702s	might have jumped the gun on delaying
6703s	since you all are in a similar situation
6706s	as before now uh or just generally
6708s	General thoughts on how you would handle
6710s	long delay and things each you learn SL
6713s	has anything changed for on future
6715s	delays
6717s	um I don't think anything's changed uh
6720s	necessarily for future delays at this
6722s	point it's I think we're waiting till
6723s	see how it shakes out um we're still
6726s	we're still in the middle of it uh so
6728s	it's not much to look back on just yet
6731s	the uh I I don't regret the change we
6734s	made a lot of it had to do with
6736s	changing uh a lot of it also had to do
6738s	with changing like what content we're
6740s	targeting for the next patch um based
6743s	pretty heavily on feedback we got from
6744s	1.1 on which Fe which content we should
6746s	be focusing on for 1.2 um so there's a
6748s	bit of a pivot
6750s	there as
6752s	well um yeah we'll see I I I talked more
6755s	about the other parts of it earlier in
6757s	the Stream uh so I don't want to double
6758s	up on it too much CU I'm a little bit
6759s	behind mik for campaign skip uh could we
6763s	have the option to start from Mastery
6765s	pick uh I mean we don't have any plans
6768s	to do that I think that's it's also it's
6771s	also not very far I mean like this is
6772s	part of the problem is as well like if
6773s	if you really want to start there like
6775s	um if you've got anyone that you can
6777s	like go to the Discord ask someone like
6779s	hey someone warp me there you know like
6781s	and and you start at level 20 Zone and
6783s	it's
6786s	fine uh the issues with dots is how it
6789s	scales the higher it goes it currently
6790s	does more damage than anything else more
6793s	quickly than any big obvious boss attack
6795s	on top of the higher damage uh so many
6797s	mobs in an echo do various dots all over
6800s	and doesn't even give a chance to heal
6802s	out of it yeah they're quite dangerous
6804s	at the
6805s	moment uh has there been any talks about
6807s	upping the implicit move speed on boots
6809s	and getting rid of what feels like a
6810s	mandatory usage of movement prefix slot
6813s	kind of feels like a attack of sorts on
6814s	all normal and unique
6817s	boots yes we've discussed this many
6819s	times it comes up every six months or so
6821s	as a as a topic for
6825s	design uh heirloom of light is an old
6827s	item that is in the files but not in the
6829s	game it's been thing for a long time
6831s	kind of like uh flesh of Stone
6835s	ah I missed
6840s	it that's funny I I can't believe I
6842s	didn't know that
6846s	huh it's probably not on ell tools cuz
6849s	he knows it's just useless we're not
6850s	doing anything with it we we should
6852s	probably remove
6854s	it unless it's like some hidden joke
6856s	that I've just or like like maybe
6858s	something I missed completely but I
6860s	don't think
6861s	so my you okay you lost so much weight
6864s	yeah I'm doing good did we did we find
6866s	one right at the end okay don't die Mike
6869s	don't
6870s	die not an egg of course we knew it
6872s	wasn't an egg I just
6875s	forgot and one I'll be not
6887s	terrible very nice very
6889s	nice a lot of Health on that
6912s	all right what are we seeing you could
6913s	also have little mini challenge dungeons
6915s	too where the enemies are a little bit
6917s	harder but a little better rewards may
6919s	even secret places like that you can go
6920s	back and farm towards the end in game
6923s	yeah I mean that's kind of what the
6924s	dungeons system is in the game
6926s	yeah we just I think a big the big thing
6929s	there is this is what was talking about
6930s	earli in the Stream is that the actual
6932s	like experience of interacting with the
6934s	dungeon content right now uh leading up
6936s	to the bosses is is not awesome cuz
6939s	we're not doing proper procedural
6940s	generation systems it's it's this like
6943s	pseudo generation where um there's a
6946s	fixed map and blockers get dropped in
6949s	place to cover up certain paths and I I
6952s	think people really don't like that I
6954s	think that there's
6955s	a um a a very heavy psychological cost
6960s	that we pay on that style of procedural
6963s	Generation
6965s	Um that I do not
6968s	understand
6970s	um like like not not in a sense of like
6972s	I don't understand how that could be a
6974s	thing like I I I get that it's a problem
6976s	for people I just don't uh I don't
6978s	understand the phenomena well enough to
6980s	fix it
6981s	directly um without just fixing fixing
6984s	it without just fixing the actual uh
6986s	procedural generation to be more similar
6988s	to what you'd expect in a game like this
6991s	which I think is is the the plan we're
6994s	more interested in just having better
6995s	procedural generation content in the
6999s	future it's just real uh real tricky
7002s	thing to get right and
7004s	uh I think jumping the gun on that could
7007s	be problematic so we got to make sure
7009s	it's real solid
7013s	will not take
7015s	me that is a big Focus for us in general
7017s	is just just getting the quality of of
7019s	all the new features that come out up
7021s	just making it so it's like hey
7023s	something new came out and it works
7035s	great got time for one or two more
7038s	here a few items like that these were
7040s	the stats for Herm of light um yeah
7043s	I uh don't ask how I know heirloom of
7046s	light uh when you cast the spell while
7048s	facing East you have 20% chance to cast
7051s	radiant Nova radiant Nova is a fire
7052s	spell its damage scales with your
7054s	Attunement you have a 1% increased spell
7056s	damage per level if you have cast
7057s	radiant Nova recently recently ref first
7059s	the last 4
7063s	seconds not not a terrible item maybe
7065s	I'll maybe I'll make it huh huh you're a
7068s	good man thank you I appreciate that I
7071s	try to be
7093s	and yeah I think this is so this there's
7095s	people talking in chat right now about
7096s	the the time it takes to get to
7097s	monoliths and it is it is pretty wildly
7100s	variable how long that number is for a
7102s	lot of people like I bet a lot of
7104s	players are sitting there going and
7105s	someone says like oh it's 2 hours to
7107s	model this for me um which I I I believe
7110s	for some people that is that is doable
7112s	um but I bet there's also players that
7113s	are looking at that number going yeah
7117s	right
7120s	um and it's probably frustrating to to
7122s	to look at a a new character and say hey
7124s	it's going to take me 10 hours to get it
7127s	um to to like a playable state in the
7129s	end
7131s	game and and like hey I just want to try
7133s	a new build and you're like hey what if
7135s	that build's not as strong as my current
7137s	one um and you're like do I just burn
7140s	that time you know so it's I I I can
7143s	appreciate that there's some
7148s	uh some some some some strong feelings
7151s	on on this
7157s	matter next time you will perish
7173s	okay any last second
7178s	questions we're running out of time
7180s	we're almost done
7181s	here going to finish this Echo and then
7185s	we'll be done
7198s	oh this is a really good stream I had a
7200s	lot of fun I
7202s	uh I'm really enjoying this build this
7205s	character is and I say this like every
7207s	time I I don't think it's it's been a
7208s	long time since I played a character on
7209s	stream that I didn't have a lot of fun
7211s	with um it's a great
7214s	sign uh but at the same time I kind of
7217s	want one of my stream builds to be less
7220s	fun so that I
7223s	can can try and find a way to make it
7224s	more fun but here I'm just like n this
7226s	is fun that is too
7230s	much worthless
7234s	anyway of all the problems to
7238s	have oh a bunch of bunch of flood at the
7240s	end all right let's see if we can Hammer
7241s	through these when did you started ell
7243s	join the company did you envision it
7245s	where it is at today or did you see Le
7247s	at a different state um I I definitely
7251s	always dreamed of us being where we are
7254s	now uh but I never expected it I think
7257s	uh you know that they'll like hey
7258s	wouldn't it be cool if and uh yeah I
7261s	think this is pretty
7263s	incredible all right any discussion of
7266s	removing Bas monoliths love the campaign
7268s	hate the middle part um not really no
7275s	um I'm not sure I'm not sure how you'd
7277s	remove it at this point uh
7284s	like apart apart from just being like
7286s	all right uh level cap 60 now you know
7290s	um yeah what's your favorite class build
7292s	my favorite is falconer I I love
7296s	Falconer it is uh Falcon is my favorite
7300s	uh since you didn't say yay or nay on
7301s	the Moose speed boots AIC situation I
7303s	assume it's not changing anytime soon uh
7307s	probably not I'd be pretty surprised
7309s	it's I I I can't say yes or no cuz I I
7312s	just don't know but like i' I'd be
7313s	surprised I'm surprised a lot though so
7316s	who knows you know all right uh do you
7318s	want to take over the subathon for me
7320s	I'm tired
7322s	now day 43 most
7325s	impressive I won't take over but I might
7327s	help you out a little bit here how about
7330s	you start playing the build of the month
7331s	in a terra's monthly every month that
7333s	would be cool the problem is that I only
7336s	play
7337s	um like my the like the account that I
7340s	play on live with it doesn't have like
7343s	there's not a lot of stuff like we look
7344s	at my character list and it's just this
7346s	character
7347s	um cuz I play on the dev servers off
7350s	like on during the week um so I don't
7352s	have time to like build up characters I
7354s	guess I could play in the normal servers
7355s	but like I got to test new features
7358s	right uh so It's tricky to get
7361s	characters up to a point where I'm
7362s	actually doing stuff that's like
7363s	remotely fun and interesting to engage
7365s	with me actually playing at all I know I
7367s	know people aren't really here to watch
7368s	me play they're here to answer get me
7370s	answer questions and stuff like that but
7371s	you know I'd like to be doing more
7373s	endgame stuffff when I'm here if I can
7375s	so happy I found this item oh my God so
7379s	huge so huge all right thanks for your
7382s	hard work Mike have a great weekend
7383s	thanks you too and on that note it's
7385s	time to end I had fun I hope you did to
7389s	I hope you had fun I know I did that's
7391s	how I say
7392s	it I'll be back same time same place
7395s	next
7397s	week uh and we will be answering more
7400s	cool questions we are looking to get
7403s	more guests on so if you have any people
7404s	that you know that you'd like or or
7406s	departments you'd like to see as guests
7407s	drop it into the uh ASD devs channel on
7410s	Discord if I did miss your question
7412s	please go ask it again there I'll be
7414s	happy to answer
7417s	it
7426s	um how we doing how we doing okay let's
7428s	do this let's go check it
7430s	out Aaron has been streaming uh subathon
7434s	for 43 days now which is
7437s	incredible I uh wish you all the best
7440s	stamina eron and uh I I'm impressed I
7444s	don't think I can do it hope you're
7446s	having fun still we'll see you next
7461s	week but

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