[2023] Developer Stream 11.24.23 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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1s	good afternoon everybody and welcome
3s	back to another last Epoch death stream
6s	hello oh my goodness I've realized I'm
8s	wearing the wrong
11s	clothing what have I done not wearing my
14s	Epoch shirt okay I'll be right
29s	back
41s	ha I'm back super
43s	smooth oh nailed it there we go repping
47s	the shirt nailed it all right let's hop
50s	right in and have some
54s	fun so I wanted to start off with
57s	something a little experiment I was
59s	doing some bug fixing a couple days
62s	ago and uh I found I found a slight
68s	problem that I want to test and make
70s	sure it's it's on live the way I thought
73s	it
75s	was and uh it concerns
78s	my um what should be much better I
82s	think
84s	two-handed um two-handed
87s	Rogue we're just we're just going to
89s	check and and see
91s	uh see how it's see if it's actually
93s	doing what I think it's doing on live
95s	right now I know what it's doing on our
96s	internal
102s	version
104s	human yeah I get it you're specious but
107s	you know
108s	what I
119s	win
124s	cuz I believe
127s	you that one of the nodes I'm taking is
130s	doing nothing CU I'm two-handing it
132s	instead
134s	of one handing
140s	it if this is your first time I guess I
142s	should go through the the usual here if
144s	this is your first time here welcome
145s	glad to have you with us we stream for
147s	charity this is our charity this month
148s	we a new one next month it's pretty
150s	great
153s	um what else do we do oh yeah if you
155s	have any questions please feel free to
157s	ask any questions about last Epoch I'll
159s	be happy to answer them um please put at
161s	last EPO game in the question in chat so
162s	I see
164s	it uh we're just going to have some fun
167s	and kind of mck
170s	about I'm going to I'm going to test
172s	this thing here on live see how it's
173s	doing and then uh once that's done we're
176s	going to we'll probably hop onto the the
179s	um the Forge Shield throw Forge guard
181s	that I'm leveling that we'll we'll do
183s	most of the stream on that I just
185s	realized that I had to get
186s	to the Champions Gate in order to um
190s	have access to the test
193s	dummies that I want to test this
200s	on got a first question here awesome is
203s	there any new Quest weapon classes
205s	coming in 1.0 no there will not be any
207s	new weapon classes in 1.0 uh
211s	um there's some new like base types like
214s	the there's some new um like item types
217s	in bases that already exist so like
219s	there might be uh like a new type of
221s	ring or something like that but there's
223s	not
224s	like um like like uh one-handed Spears
228s	or something or fist weapons or
230s	crossbows you know like there's no um
233s	there's there's there's no like new
234s	entire base class like um that we'll go
239s	in this line here this is two sword
240s	there's no new thing for that line
242s	there there's um certain item types I
246s	don't know which bases I think there's
247s	new belts
250s	[Music]
251s	possibly something I could be
258s	wrong okay we
264s	are just do a little little bit of data
266s	collection so we're hitting we're
267s	hitting regular hits in the 120 to 170
272s	range and uh our crits are in the like
277s	950 to oh some 800s there we'll say
280s	we'll say 950 to 1100 1150 950 to 1200
284s	somewhere in that
285s	range nothing huge nothing
291s	amazing
299s	um
301s	now Mike remember where the the note is
303s	that you're talking
307s	about turns out I like haven't even
309s	taken the
325s	node I've just got wrong
328s	Maybe
331s	oh I'm going to look at this there like
332s	just it's going to be a new node that uh
335s	isn't even even on live or
338s	something oh no here it is it was Lethal
340s	Mirage that's the problem wrong ability
344s	okay okay we're all in the was that 2 to
348s	350
355s	range
357s	yeah okay and we're going to to we've
360s	got enough this way so we can just we
361s	just take these points
365s	out I
367s	think that this will have zero effect on
370s	our damage output what we just did
375s	there if you miss the target even less
383s	effect yep that did not do
388s	anything
391s	this node does not count two-handed
395s	swords oh my goodness okay well let's
398s	fix for let fix for one point
401s	now oh no not this
406s	up that's the test I wanted to
410s	run see my build's not quite as bad as I
414s	thought it was it's just a it's a bug
417s	build it's it's bugged so it's not
418s	working the way it should no
424s	problem all right where are we in this
426s	Quest
428s	here let's go for
436s	it I found the coolest unique so far
438s	it's the one where you can break down an
440s	item and the AIC shards go onto it some
442s	200 sword yeah that thing's awesome that
444s	think it's brand new um it's the only
446s	item in the game like it it is very cool
450s	um so big fan there where are our
454s	um health
475s	bars doing a little Captain America
478s	action
480s	is we've
482s	got excuse me we've got a shield throw
485s	um where the cool Down's resetting when
486s	it gets back to
488s	you uh which means we can throw it
490s	pretty
492s	regularly and we're doing uh some Forge
495s	strike stuff in the
502s	intrum yeah that
508s	cool
513s	we
515s	go nice got our be
518s	going get our bees and swords get our
521s	sword wielding
535s	bees it's bug on Twitch or it's it's bug
539s	on Twitch or game not full screen on
542s	Steam what oh oh my goodness yeah that's
548s	uh I do not see that on my screen at
552s	all uh and I will but I can see that on
556s	my like my preview window of what you're
557s	seeing so that is
560s	um that is OBS not being
563s	fantastic so give me a minute and I will
566s	uh as soon as I'm not going to be an
568s	imminent
570s	Peril which is going to happen if I
572s	realize that I'm fighting in between two
577s	spawners where are
587s	they there we go we
591s	good
598s	okay
615s	um okay that's weird not sure how that
618s	got
623s	reset oh I know exactly how that got
628s	reset
630s	sorry that's entirely my
638s	fault sorry we're good
658s	though
660s	you know as I'm playing with Shield
661s	throw here like I kind of wish it flew
664s	just like a touch faster not not like a
667s	lot but just just like a little
673s	bit also uh something interesting with
675s	the um the swords that get summoned from
678s	Forge
680s	strike um I don't I don't know if they
684s	are this way now but at least originally
686s	what they were was they were the uh the
689s	wraiths they were just wraiths uh that
692s	we' given a sword to and made their
695s	models
696s	invisible just like like set their their
699s	external texture to just zero Alpha and
703s	uh gave them a sword and called it a day
705s	they were actually like the object that
708s	was like the the sword minion itself was
710s	actually a um a wraith running around
718s	invisibly
721s	which is kind of the reason why they
722s	look a little weird I
724s	think um CU they're but if you if you
728s	imagine them like they are now just with
729s	someone holding it instead it makes a
732s	lot more
736s	sense like it kind of drags behind them
738s	and they get close and they take a
743s	swing I I like it it's quirky I don't
748s	know
755s	Shield this is the one we want the
757s	damage just drops so
762s	much oh hey it's my projectile
778s	speed
783s	should we change I'm I'm tempted to
785s	change the uh the forge
787s	strike um weapon that gets used into the
791s	Anvil the hammer just feels out of place
793s	with the
797s	shield strictly from a thematic
805s	sense all right let's
808s	go
823s	you shall
825s	not you shall
830s	not do more questions going on what's
832s	going on here are we going to get more
834s	base items with different stats
835s	implicits yeah so we do we frequently
838s	add I think every p for the last I don't
839s	know how long we've added more base
841s	types with more implicits um we're not
844s	going to be adding in new types of bases
847s	So like um the the obvious hopefully
851s	obvious category for this is is certain
852s	weapon types that's what I was saying
854s	earlier so like there's not going to be
856s	uh crossbows or um like fist weapons or
860s	one-handed Spears you know things like
862s	that but there are going to be like new
865s	items there's a few new bases a few new
868s	bases in some of the C categories and
869s	I'm not sure which categories some of
870s	the armor
878s	categories and yeah they all have their
880s	unique
884s	implicits or
893s	die it's not mandatory for the but in
898s	another games with many characters on
900s	screen I often want to see option to
902s	make Ally models and skills half
904s	transparent yeah um this is this
906s	something we we've talked about in toy
908s	with doing quite a bit actually hey come
912s	on in welcome everybody thanks for the
914s	raing party killer the J welcome
917s	everybody hope you're having fun
922s	um yeah it's it's um we consider trying
926s	to make a system like that uh for for
928s	making your ize uh VFX quieter and and
932s	you know like like less less going on
934s	there maybe partially transparent maybe
935s	um
937s	certain uh
939s	extra like particle effects only play
942s	for like your own skills or something
943s	like that or um you know like like
946s	various little things that we've
947s	considered to do to make it easier to
949s	pick out the things you're doing uh in
952s	in
953s	game and
955s	um it's it's a big consideration when
958s	we're we're making a abilities and um
960s	designing the ability trees and things
961s	like that where we we we try to make
964s	decisions that will not make visual
966s	noise go out of control um specifically
968s	with multiplayer in
978s	mind have you come to make me
983s	whole that was that was a good voice
986s	line that was a good one I liked it
999s	we're actually getting a not
1000s	insignificant number of of minions
1002s	pretty regularly
1017s	here
1020s	this guy is
1035s	Beefy no damage it's the more accurate
1045s	reason we're going to start working
1047s	pretty hard on getting the damage of
1049s	that Shield drop up I
1057s	think yeah just just straight here we
1061s	go
1067s	Basics is Sentinel getting re uh
1070s	reworked Slash new skills before 1.0 the
1073s	palad and heal skill for example um I I
1075s	can't really go into detail on what's
1077s	going to be coming down the pipe for
1080s	um uh for Sentinel in general not a lot
1083s	um there's not a lot happening for
1085s	Sentinel in 1.0 um EV every SK at launch
1090s	every skill at launch will have a skill
1094s	tree
1098s	um and you know how how we get there
1103s	hope hopefully means putting it adding
1105s	trees instead of removing
1107s	skills
1109s	um stand down or
1114s	die right now Healing Hands is kind of
1117s	just a placeold they like hey where
1118s	there's going to be a a heal skill here
1121s	like this going to happen um no one
1123s	really use it you can't it's not really
1124s	good for anything at the
1125s	moment andon eight nine months in a row
1130s	thank you very
1132s	much welcome glad to have you with
1135s	us I I feel like I should almost be I
1139s	know it's the thing I should like
1140s	figuring out a way to commemorate
1142s	someone we get get going really
1152s	far uh is the story going to be expanded
1154s	in 1.0 or is it complete for now neither
1158s	it is not complete and will not be
1159s	expanded in 1.0 um there are still three
1162s	missing chapters that will get added uh
1164s	over the course of the few patches um
1167s	after 1.0
1169s	um we
1171s	are you know like we're we we we really
1174s	want to have uh that that complete
1177s	storyline finished up as soon as we can
1179s	um but we think it's more important to
1182s	you know re really what where am I is
1184s	does it want me to come down here and be
1186s	like oh no I can't make it where do I go
1189s	yes it does want me to do
1191s	that probably didn't actually have to go
1193s	down there that's fine we'll this way
1195s	first
1197s	um yeah we we want to have a a like a
1200s	really nice complete storyline ready to
1202s	go
1204s	um as soon as we can but having that
1207s	play nice and feel fun and all sort of
1209s	stuff is more important um and so we
1212s	really want to take our time with the
1213s	story and make sure it
1225s	shines uh have you considered either
1227s	making a varant two Spears that are
1229s	one-handed are allowing us to use Spears
1230s	and shield with some penalty to damage
1232s	absolutely we've considered
1237s	that um neither will be happening at
1245s	1.0 give me that travel
1251s	speed so what just want it snappier you
1257s	know uh um yeah we're
1261s	we're like there's not a lot usually
1265s	when we're adding in new a base item
1267s	type like that um there kind of needs to
1270s	be uh like like a good reason to do it I
1274s	guess
1276s	and there's not really much of an
1279s	identity that those one-headed Spears
1281s	would have uh given the current skills
1284s	that are available
1287s	um I think more likely what'll happen
1290s	and this is probably true for pretty
1292s	well every weapon base type that's
1294s	remaining to be added because there
1295s	there's a few still there um there's
1298s	some that even have IDs in the in the
1300s	game already that we just don't have any
1303s	actually implemented yet
1306s	um and and that's and that's having
1309s	a um a Mastery or skill or uh Mastery or
1314s	Base Class come out at the same time as
1315s	it so having having a reason to uh like
1319s	build new skills with that weapon type
1320s	in mind things like that have it have it
1322s	be sort of a like a good reason with
1325s	with lots of stuff instead of just
1329s	um like here's a new weapon type you
1332s	know uh there's also lots of lots of
1334s	things that interact with like each
1336s	weapon type um so it does affect a lot
1339s	more than
1340s	just the ones we add it affects other
1343s	things too like it affects the balance
1344s	of certain nodes on certain trees and
1347s	and um
1349s	you know like do we do we want to add
1352s	that like there's that there's that node
1353s	on Rogue um that's a different buff for
1356s	every every weapon type do we add it to
1358s	that I don't think staffs are
1361s	there um as an option so it's it's like
1366s	does it count towards that maybe maybe
1368s	not there's there's a lot there's a lot
1369s	of stuff that goes into um adding in a
1372s	new weapon base
1374s	type down or um and the other option is
1378s	is that
1379s	you uh you restrict that weapons based
1382s	type the use really heavily like we did
1384s	with
1385s	bows um which is something that we are
1388s	still looking to expand open up a
1402s	bunch I guess the short version is is
1405s	that we definitely want to add them um
1407s	we just didn't think we could add them
1409s	properly in time so we'd rather add them
1412s	later
1426s	properly and you know the baj jillion
1428s	other things we have to get
1432s	done all right how do you plan the
1435s	content out for the game and the future
1436s	season leagues uh we have Dungeons and
1439s	Echo are going to release content in
1441s	both areas at the same time or switch
1442s	between them um some combination of both
1445s	those things so there'll be um I'm sure
1448s	certain patches where we're like all
1449s	right we're going to focus on Dungeons
1450s	and we're going to add like several
1452s	dungeons this patch or we'll be like oh
1454s	we're going to focus on the monolith
1455s	this time we're going to add a bunch of
1456s	new mechanics to the monolith and stuff
1457s	like that or maybe there's a patch where
1459s	like you know there's there's a new like
1461s	overarching mechanic that we're adding
1464s	that um that touches both really nicely
1467s	and and like having
1469s	like like we we we make modifications to
1471s	both of those other end game systems at
1472s	the same time so it's it's It's tricky
1475s	because it's kind of what the situation
1477s	calls for they both will be getting
1479s	updates as we go down the
1489s	road we definitely have uh a good chunk
1492s	of um dungeon suggestions that were kind
1496s	of like ooh can we make this work how
1498s	like and and there's there's a few at
1500s	the top of that
1504s	list we do still need a new um a new
1508s	ring don't we cuz we only have one
1510s	throwing ring yeah it's not even that
1512s	great so we we need to um we're on the
1516s	hunt for Rings right
1518s	now can this take us across I don't
1520s	think it can think dead
1525s	ends worth a shot
1530s	[Music]
1532s	uh maybe looking good I'm just wrong
1536s	I'll take
1540s	it thank you very much down or die oh uh
1545s	I'm going to ruin this name that
1547s	is he's the there's the capital version
1551s	is much easier to
1554s	do uh Midori thank you very much for the
1557s	two months
1558s	appreciate
1560s	it appreciate
1570s	you are you guys very happy with the
1572s	Vitality changes
1575s	yeah uh my void Knight has 150 necrotic
1577s	res that's a
1580s	lot probably uh if you have any affixes
1583s	uh or points invested anywhere that
1587s	uh
1592s	uh are adding to that you can probably
1594s	switch those out
1597s	for something else it does protect
1600s	nicely it's I know I know you can if you
1602s	stack Vitality hard you do get a lot of
1604s	extra resistances there um which is nice
1608s	really nice if you're um going up
1611s	against Mark for death stuff because
1612s	that shreds out like
1614s	crazy I should check what I'm getting
1616s	from
1617s	these
1623s	what that's so
1627s	good I mean like the the the numbers are
1629s	kind of low like there not really like
1631s	high tiar or anything but
1634s	like yes please that's that's two off
1637s	perfect roll Health
1642s	what uh
1647s	okay
1655s	sure it's not really a wasted stat there
1663s	either that's
1668s	awesome I think so far all this gear is
1670s	self found on this
1672s	character uh this weapon I may have
1674s	pulled out of my stash yeah I pulled the
1676s	weapon out of my
1677s	stash
1689s	probably just portal back
1692s	actually whatever let fight some
1695s	stuff all right um are you guys planning
1699s	on new class types or just masters with
1702s	existing types I think you'll see so we
1704s	we we don't have the uh next
1708s	class or Mastery specific
1711s	release um picked out yet we do have uh
1715s	a good idea as to like a few of the ma a
1719s	few of the base classes like what the
1720s	next Master is going to be we have a
1722s	really good idea of that
1724s	um and if we do another Base Class
1727s	anytime soon um we we we've got a pretty
1730s	good idea of a
1732s	few Front Runners of candidates type
1735s	thing nothing set in stone with which
1737s	which classes are coming next uh yet but
1740s	when we do start adding them I think
1741s	it's more likely that we'll add
1743s	masteries first than new classes new
1746s	base
1747s	classes um partially just because
1749s	there's there's a lot of stuff um that
1753s	still needs to go in the game as like
1755s	core systems and uh and things like that
1757s	to to really bring bring
1759s	everything to shine like there's for
1762s	example uh like like a a pinnacle boss
1766s	system still still got to get that down
1768s	and um if
1771s	we're if we're building a whole new base
1774s	class with three masteries that's a
1776s	humongous undertaking compared to um
1779s	sliding in a new Mastery for one of the
1781s	classes you know like there's there's a
1782s	big difference in scope there so if
1785s	we're if we're doing other high priority
1786s	things at the same time the new
1788s	masteries are I think more likely to
1790s	come first
1793s	um mcgs thank you very much the eight
1796s	months in a row that's that's that's
1801s	awesome
1803s	[Music]
1806s	fantabulous
1812s	uh we're going down here is this where
1814s	we're going void no we don't care about
1816s	this frenzy I mean let's just
1821s	unkill I feel like we're coming up here
1826s	probably
1832s	yeah let's get some cool down stuff
1833s	going on should we let's let's fight him
1836s	let see what happens what's the worst
1837s	thing could happen
1844s	right we realize that
1847s	our uh main damage is a little bit AOE
1851s	and
1853s	uh we're we're going just real slow and
1856s	miss our attacks
1859s	again I got some bees going
1879s	on all right any more questions here
1881s	while I'm doing
1884s	this am I playing with stream mode again
1889s	actually I reset my settings it might
1890s	don't even be on right
1896s	now just for the record it is an actual
1898s	like Graphics settings stre REM
1902s	mode but it's it's it only affects
1905s	Graphics just just to be
1911s	clear that was a really good decision
1913s	feels a lot better all of a
1916s	sudden
1919s	all right let's keep
1922s	going
1929s	uh is there any chance we get uh muffin
1935s	next week for super nerdy uh nerdy meta
1937s	build discussions uh what's going on
1939s	next
1940s	week uh next week I think is still
1945s	me um but the week after
1950s	that I'm going to be recovering from
1954s	someone drilling a bunch of holes in my
1960s	face and I did not expect how
1962s	uncomfortable I would make myself with
1964s	that comment um
1969s	yes uh so I will I will be recovering
1974s	from uh some pretty pretty intense
1978s	stuff
1980s	uh
1990s	yeah okay it's got to new new question
1993s	here
1994s	um so week after that your promises
1996s	muffin also hope you're okay yeah I know
1998s	I'm I'm I it's the dentist not I'm
2002s	making it sound worse than it is but
2003s	it's just I don't not not a fan uh
2009s	uh yeah yeah uh the eth I I I think
2012s	muffin sitting on the
2017s	eth we'll have to ask them make
2023s	sure all right hi can you tell us
2025s	anything about uh reducing flash effects
2027s	for certain skills and hit effects and
2029s	so on are there any many builds I don't
2031s	play because of the light effects thanks
2036s	well
2039s	I would uh I would turn this
2043s	off and then you
2045s	uh won't have the
2061s	problem um as for like just the least
2064s	graphically intensive thing overall
2068s	completely
2071s	um Ora of Decay maybe it's kind of that
2075s	one like big like floaty thing around
2079s	you and other than that it's about it
2080s	cuz it's it's poison doesn't hit it's
2083s	always
2084s	dots um so there's not hit effects that
2087s	like like Sparks and stuff that like
2088s	jump
2090s	out
2096s	uh
2108s	is this
2109s	[Music]
2113s	fire that projectile speed should we
2116s	just go full
2118s	fire I don't hate
2123s	that there's the flat physical Dage the
2125s	crit here
2130s	this where you're like actually throwing
2131s	your
2135s	Shield I feel like getting over here is
2144s	amazing I just want that projectile
2146s	speed though I really enjoyed it
2147s	especially when we're waiting for it to
2148s	come back to
2150s	us like
2156s	that
2158s	there's a big
2161s	dump I I love getting those like cluster
2164s	drops
2165s	of uh of shards big
2179s	fan oh my gosh behind the camera I'm
2182s	sorry yes thank you Kane there there is
2185s	a setting I can't I can't bring it
2193s	up
2195s	there there we
2198s	go I could just move my head over that
2200s	probably would have been
2216s	easier
2217s	um it's it's on right now it is still on
2219s	the hit flash is still on here I'll turn
2221s	it off and you can see what it looks
2222s	like
2224s	differently turn off screen shake for a
2226s	little bit too I'll do little screen
2229s	[ __ ] off you just like just drop
2231s	everything of feedback
2234s	stuff I really like it I really like it
2243s	um yeah that should be should be a bunch
2245s	of Stu turned off there
2249s	see we're not getting any any uh hit
2251s	flash on the
2263s	character our void R is like well 30% of
2266s	this level's not
2276s	terrible
2289s	trying to time the dash cuz you're
2290s	invulnerable during
2302s	dashing we need some more uh some more
2305s	shred and Frailty we need some more
2307s	of those
2309s	like offensive ailment
2319s	helpers we
2325s	go I'm turning everything back to
2327s	default by the
2336s	way
2338s	[Music]
2341s	oh back at sore today hi love the game
2344s	thank you uh but sometimes farming
2347s	random Maps becom a bit annoying in
2349s	model any plans
2351s	to uh some end content like farming
2354s	specific map like in Poe
2356s	um having having like an item that you
2359s	bring to the map to like to make it a
2362s	map so to speak um is not something we
2365s	uh we're introducing one point know
2368s	um there are some changes to the model
2371s	system in general that we are uh we are
2373s	making um there was a preview last week
2377s	that uh showed off a few of those things
2379s	not much detail but a little few few
2381s	things here and there um the seek out
2385s	the outcast Queen leader of the living
2388s	Rebels and show her the epoch the rest
2393s	will be up to you all right thanks is
2398s	um and what was I saying just want to
2401s	let the voice line play
2403s	out
2404s	[Music]
2410s	the oh it changes the model and stuff
2412s	like that yeah there's there's yeah
2413s	there's a few just general changes to
2415s	how the mono works that that'll help
2417s	make things a little more smooth I guess
2425s	um I don't know you get to pick from a
2427s	big list of the ones that are there
2432s	already uh the way that the Buffs work
2435s	will be more clear and less hidden
2438s	information which is
2441s	great U we'll also be
2443s	doing
2445s	um oh I see what you I I just understood
2449s	the question I just I just got it I just
2450s	got there sorry about having like a
2453s	specific layout that you can Target um
2456s	what do you you
2457s	want I cannot do
2461s	that there kind of is elements of that a
2464s	little bit already um because there's
2467s	specific layouts and specific timelines
2469s	that you can do but no like be able to
2471s	say like I want this specific like this
2474s	specific
2475s	Echo probably not anytime soon if if at
2485s	all uh maybe it's a baby question that's
2488s	fine if it is but what class is easiest
2491s	to begin and go to level 100 monolith uh
2493s	I want you to return to the game play
2495s	with friend I don't know the current
2496s	meta
2498s	um there there's not really
2501s	any you can't pick a master that it
2503s	won't be possible to do that with um as
2507s	far as easiest I do not know off top of
2509s	my head
2512s	um I feel like there's kind of always a
2515s	good um either swarm blade or were bear
2518s	build that's floating around um
2520s	sometimes both uh it's usually usually
2523s	on the easier side
2527s	um I feel like there's usually a uh
2530s	necro wraith build that's that's that's
2531s	floating around that's generally on the
2533s	easier side
2534s	too
2539s	um I feel like there's a couple good run
2542s	Master builds right
2544s	now there's there's you can go to to um
2547s	go to Max roll. or lasto tools.com and
2551s	uh they both got tons of build
2554s	guides
2556s	um there's also uh there's a bunch of
2559s	like content creators that put out stuff
2562s	like this um whole whole bunch of them
2565s	uh not not going to list every single
2566s	one of them but
2573s	um yeah there's there yeah there's a
2575s	whole bunch I would one of the key
2577s	things is just like checking for which
2578s	patch it
2580s	is make sure so make sure say like 092
2583s	doesn't need to be specifically
2587s	92k or even 091 most of the 091 builds
2591s	work just fine in
2597s	092 the here's the here's the key thing
2600s	the most important piece of advice I can
2602s	give you never pay attention to what I'm
2605s	doing because it's just B
2607s	[Laughter]
2619s	bad all
2629s	right blades r no problem yeah that's a
2631s	good good call it umra blades is really
2634s	strong um
2637s	kind of always has been since it came
2638s	out it's pretty
2639s	young pretty young skill
2642s	still uh hey Mike does the team plan to
2645s	include some kind of reward specifically
2647s	for leacy such as achievement based
2649s	Cosmetics or is the only plan for Cycles
2652s	I would love to see some emphasis and
2654s	love for legacy um we don't have uh
2656s	achievement based Cosmetics um
2658s	specifically coming at 1.0 for either
2663s	um I would say there's probably more
2667s	likely at least initially going to be
2668s	stuff for uh for Cycles rather than
2671s	Legacy
2674s	um a lot of a lot of the achievements
2677s	that I've when I was been thinking about
2679s	achievements and things that would be
2680s	cool most of them um have been
2684s	like psycle agnostic so like doesn't
2688s	matter if you're playing on a cycle or
2689s	not uh most of the ones that I thought
2691s	were were good
2694s	ideas um apart from like ladder
2697s	competitions which kind of only work in
2712s	Cycles um but I I do feel like this is
2714s	probably in reference to the For Thread
2715s	that's been going
2717s	on
2720s	um I I don't know if I've read every
2723s	reply in that R cuz I think it kind of
2726s	got away from me in the last couple days
2728s	but
2730s	um I didn't see many specific
2732s	suggestions in there which is
2735s	fine but we haven't talked about it
2737s	internally so I don't
2739s	uh I don't have a like here's we're
2741s	doing or anything like
2744s	that I have no idea what his health is
2746s	at right
2755s	now
2758s	My Fire Res can we just take this let's
2759s	just take
2765s	this we need to we need to we need to
2768s	take some time and craft a ring
2785s	here
2793s	vo it's
2800s	fine yeah just
2802s	that that extra seven face storing
2805s	damage I think is going to be pretty
2815s	important what is the best time to start
2817s	crafting when you drop your first Shard
2821s	there's really no bad time to start
2822s	crafting
2827s	um the uh crafting materials don't uh
2831s	like the crafting materials don't hold
2833s	any intrinsic uh trading
2836s	value um the crafting materials that you
2839s	find early on are not rare um and you're
2843s	not missing out on a huge thing by by
2844s	using them um like you're not there's
2846s	not some opportunity cost of not being
2848s	able to use them later type thing
2849s	because you'll you'll find plenty more
2851s	especially the ones you're finding early
2855s	um
2858s	the the only thing that's kind of like
2860s	maybe you should save it is like uh like
2864s	Runes of shattering are uh you you
2867s	generally want a lot of those and
2870s	they're less useful early it's kind of
2872s	the only piece of crafting that I might
2873s	recommend saving a little bit but if you
2876s	need need one use it
2885s	um it's void damage and Mele void CLE
2891s	yeah uh still fun but yes uh crafting
2895s	yeah it's it's just go for it because
2897s	like because they're not uh like a
2899s	currency
2901s	item
2903s	um there's there's and they don't
2905s	combine up into each
2907s	other uh there's much less of a reason
2909s	to hold on to
2915s	them so yeah like just go for it
2918s	experiment have
2932s	fun yes
2935s	yes be
2938s	with I got I got my mom with the um just
2943s	just the the way she said yes remind me
2945s	of this so you as someone like what does
2946s	y it's an old old internet joke uh what
2950s	does y spell say yes you sure yeah y yes
2955s	spells yes uh and then you ask them to
2957s	what e y yes
2961s	spells and every once in a while someone
2964s	looks at you and goes
2970s	yes it's
2972s	wonderful it is eyes in case you're
2975s	wondering but when you break the E off
2977s	at the start e y
2983s	s they yes anyways uh I was quite
2989s	excited thank you for having stream
2991s	you're
2993s	welcome
2995s	uh
2999s	uh is this cycle starting on February
3000s	1st 21st with 1.0 yes cycle starting
3003s	February 21st with 1.0 I assum the base
3006s	game to be showcased upon release
3008s	yeah yeah that's that that's that's the
3011s	game 1.0 cycle starts release game
3014s	starts there you
3019s	go what are we going
3021s	here really enjoying
3024s	that just go no cool
3027s	down go fire
3031s	hard yeah let just let's just get damage
3034s	right just just take the damage nodes
3036s	damage damage damage
3041s	damage that's how you build
3054s	right
3056s	thanks for answering can't wait for 1.0
3058s	smooth monolist also sounds very nice
3066s	yeah know it's little things like um
3069s	we're doing a like com uh corruption
3071s	compression So like
3075s	um 300 corruption or 200 corruption will
3079s	be similar to what 300 corruption is now
3083s	um and 500 corrupt or 3 corruption will
3086s	be similar to what 500 corruption is now
3088s	so it actually scales faster
3091s	um and there's there's there's some
3093s	benchmarking numbers that you can look
3094s	at they're and they're not um it is
3097s	smooth those numbers are just uh
3099s	represented to to give you an idea of
3101s	like uh so you can so you can Benchmark
3104s	against what your expectations are a
3105s	little bit easier like oh if I could do
3108s	this before what's it going to be
3111s	now um so that it'll be it'll require
3114s	less corruption grinding which is
3118s	important
3120s	um and then also the uh the difficulty
3124s	in general is just just shifting that
3125s	onto corruption more instead of onto the
3127s	mods the mods will be
3137s	static uh remember seeing a video way
3140s	back a person using war path and it
3143s	pulling mobs towards them was it ever a
3144s	thing if so what made that happen uh
3148s	yeah uh this one
3151s	nope
3162s	uh uh that got removed and I just didn't
3166s	know about
3169s	it it forced you to stand still that was
3172s	a big
3174s	thing that's probably why we removed
3182s	it if you if you're wondering about the
3184s	suggestion that that came recently about
3186s	a a um a relic that would would give
3191s	that to Warpath I looked at that
3193s	suggestion there's no way we're doing
3194s	that item
3204s	sorry
3206s	the the range it was suggesting for the
3209s	pole if I remember correctly I can't
3211s	remember exactly but the range the range
3212s	it was suggesting for the pole was like
3217s	this like
3234s	no
3238s	all right what made happen it was it was
3241s	a node on war path itself
3247s	yeah uh if you end up doing achievements
3249s	and rewards per cycle on ladder what not
3251s	do you plan to do a limited availability
3253s	for top players or Of Reach This score
3255s	type deal for all um we we we we don't
3257s	none of this is set in stone we've not
3259s	decided on this uh everything I say here
3261s	is speculation and me saying what I'd
3263s	like to see so just disclaimer
3267s	none of this is decided um personally
3271s	what I would like to see is a
3273s	combination of both um and in kind of a
3275s	weird way I'd like to see it such that
3278s	if you
3282s	um where there's some sort of like point
3285s	system that you
3287s	earn and uh repeatedly
3292s	placing in the top 100 let's say or or
3295s	something you know in the top 500 um
3299s	Nets you a very small amount of these
3300s	points that could be could be
3302s	collectively built to award something
3304s	big uh with the people who are hitting
3308s	the the top spots just getting a lot
3310s	more of it all at
3313s	once um it maybe some sort of maybe some
3315s	sort of title or something but like the
3317s	important part being that
3321s	um most of these things could be
3323s	achievable even if you weren't the tip
3325s	top
3326s	but maybe it would take you a few Cycles
3327s	instead of just one so something like
3329s	that that's what I'd like to see
3331s	personally um but we haven't we
3334s	haven't gotten around to doing that
3337s	yet there won't be anything like that
3339s	for
3348s	1.0
3352s	um uh there oh there's there's one thing
3355s	kind kind of like that I think but it's
3357s	not linked to Performance so anyone's
3359s	can have it and it's really
3361s	easy really
3374s	easy I technically we've done that
3376s	before there was there was a thing
3377s	forever ago where it was
3379s	like uh it was it was like for sharing
3381s	some post you got
3384s	something
3387s	we still haven't put in the game
3390s	yet
3405s	yet it was removed yeah it was
3414s	removed
3421s	uh I think Po's challenge system is
3423s	super good and we incentivizes players
3426s	to play a lot of different content
3427s	instead of just doing one thing over and
3428s	over yeah
3432s	um I think that they have uh enough
3436s	content where incentivizing those sorts
3437s	of things is really useful um I don't
3440s	think we're quite there yet um and in
3445s	like the volume of content that we
3446s	really need to really like need to push
3449s	doing various things cuz like there's
3451s	kind of just a
3454s	few
3457s	um but yes that that is that is a good
3459s	consideration to have with a system like
3472s	that uh what is in general the team
3475s	favorite thing to design what's your
3477s	personal favorite oh I mean every like
3479s	there's so many people that design
3480s	different things and enjoy designing
3482s	different things
3483s	um I think that so there's there's
3486s	there's usually a big group of people
3487s	that gets together for Designing uh new
3489s	skill trees the initial brainstorming
3491s	phase of new skill trees and that's
3492s	always a ton of fun um it's the whole
3495s	like no bad ideas phase of things that's
3497s	really just just just great when
3500s	everyone's just posting ideas that
3502s	you're like that's a terrible idea but
3504s	it's hilarious and like you know there's
3507s	just sometimes the whole idea is just a
3509s	meme that just gets posted and there's
3511s	there's no words that go with it you
3512s	just got to guess what they mean um you
3515s	know things like that so that that phase
3516s	is always a lot of fun um individually I
3519s	think a lot of people enjoy designing
3520s	items um like we just have a persistent
3524s	like item suggestion thread internally
3526s	that we people just post in um I really
3530s	like tossing an item in there every once
3531s	in a
3532s	while
3534s	uh
3536s	but like the level design people I'm
3537s	sure their favorite thing to design is
3538s	levels and you know
3541s	the uh like character design team
3544s	probably their favorite thing to design
3545s	as characters not items sort of thing so
3547s	my view of what people like to design is
3549s	probably pretty heavily
3551s	skewed um my my personal favorite stuff
3555s	is is is items they're just
3558s	like um I do I do a lot of uh I I I I
3564s	really enjoy designing um custom Magik
3567s	cards and uh making a Magik card I think
3572s	there's a lot of similarities between
3573s	that and an item it's this like
3575s	self-contained object that has to fit
3577s	into a larger system um and you can you
3580s	can really take extreme top- down or
3583s	bottom up design approaches or or some
3585s	combination therein like you don't
3587s	there's there's a lot of options and you
3589s	can um I I think there's a lot of
3592s	similarities there I really like both of
3594s	those things welcome
3599s	traveler yeah that
3624s	bug
3627s	all
3629s	right more
3630s	[Music]
3633s	questions greetings new player here are
3635s	there any plans for a support archetype
3639s	uh like an or a bot from Poe for example
3642s	um yeah so there are lots of Support
3644s	options in the game already we don't
3646s	have any we don't have any plans to
3650s	um I I guess uh have have a class that's
3653s	shoehorned into support
3656s	specifically um we like giving lots of
3658s	Support options for people that want to
3660s	invest in that sort of thing um but
3662s	there's always damage options on the
3664s	class as well so I'll use Paladin as
3666s	probably the best example of this right
3667s	now
3669s	um Healing Hands doesn't have a tree yet
3671s	but we we'll get there eventually so
3673s	this just a straight healing ability um
3676s	there's Hora that is every Aura from
3680s	every game in
3682s	one pretty pretty well
3686s	um you know it's got Smite which half of
3689s	what it does like it it attacks things
3690s	but it also heals and then you can use
3692s	it to apply debuffs to things um so
3695s	there's there's support things you can
3696s	do that are offensive as well um like
3698s	just stunning things so Shield bash you
3701s	can use the shield on this Paladin to
3703s	also stun things very reliably which is
3705s	a fantastic form of uh support and uh
3709s	yeah and like you can debuff people so
3710s	you can like you can get Frailty chance
3712s	for Smite and um so when it hits it
3715s	applies the Frailty debuff to enemies in
3717s	which case they they deal less damage to
3719s	your allies so you're um you know like
3720s	there's more support aspects there so
3722s	there's there's lots of things that
3724s	might not be
3725s	directly um like this is a this is the
3727s	support class um but you can you can
3731s	definitely make support builds like uh
3733s	judgment when it just when you drop it
3734s	it leaves consecrated ground that heals
3736s	allies that stand in it um and and Buffs
3739s	and and gives them um spell damage as
3741s	well so there's like sigils will also
3743s	heal allies there's you know there's
3745s	there's there's things there's lots of
3746s	things you can do to make a support
3748s	class and it's not just Paladin like
3750s	there's support class availability
3751s	elsewhere as well um Palin's the most
3754s	traditional one
3758s	probably but we we really
3760s	design uh encounters and challenges such
3763s	that we're not looking at a Holy Trinity
3765s	type thing um so we're not expecting you
3767s	to have a tank we're not expecting you
3768s	to have a Healer
3771s	um if you if you want to bring a tank
3773s	and you want to bring a Healer it'll
3775s	totally work it's GNA be
3777s	awesome but uh you don't need it if you
3780s	don't want
3791s	it yeah what else Druid Druid has uh
3794s	some good options
3795s	there
3797s	um there's some Support options so I was
3800s	I made us recently we were playing
3802s	online as a group and I made a support
3803s	Rogue um it's not very good but it's a
3807s	lot of fun you basically have 100% haste
3808s	up time on your allies uh just like from
3812s	various things that Grant haste to
3814s	everyone in an area I just take all of
3816s	them and uh suddenly everyone has haste
3819s	basically all the time and it's great
3820s	everyone just
3821s	flying um you know there's there's
3824s	different ways you can use support
3827s	builds that one was um also focusing
3830s	really heavily on uh armor shred and
3833s	Fire Res Shred so you can like buff up
3836s	other people's damage by reducing the
3838s	defenses of the enemies you're facing as
3847s	well I you really want to make a better
3849s	ring
3850s	still I should put a filter down that
3854s	like calls
3860s	out okay our our our throwing cost right
3863s	now is pretty darn low if I even take
3865s	one point in that though does it just
3867s	like Spike no we're still still at zero
3870s	oh yeah okay we we're we're activating
3872s	manifest armor for sure in this build
3875s	there's some cool stuff
3883s	there even if it's just another body on
3886s	the field for us we weren't we weren't
3888s	using hammer throw
3893s	anyways
3912s	uh yeah I don't know if there's a big
3913s	spam I don't know if I should be reading
3914s	that and answering questions or
3916s	something but ah random name X thank you
3918s	for the 100 bits win's Falconer you know
3921s	when Falconer is September 21st wait no
3925s	I always say September February
3930s	21st falconers is February 21st oh I got
3933s	to vot that
3936s	hard yep I totally know what day it is
3939s	here as as penants as Penance for my
3943s	sins here's a cool thing to show you oh
3946s	look at that wow so
3953s	cool
3963s	that's pretty
3965s	sweet when move is bound to a mouse
3967s	button like mb4 for example or any other
3970s	key you have to use the same key to
3972s	interact with stash NPCs Etc uh will
3974s	left click every be locked to
3976s	interact even if we bind move to another
3979s	key it's awkward to have to use mb4 to
3982s	open stash Etc but I want to move with
3984s	that key
3985s	sorry long question I was unaware that's
3987s	how this worked um it's probably just a
3990s	mistake
3996s	uh oh it's specifically to interact with
3998s	with with World
4001s	objects
4010s	uh I don't know if that's possible for
4013s	us to do
4016s	uh with the way with the way that
4017s	opening I mean like with redesigning the
4020s	system it would be possible but um with
4022s	the way the system set up right now the
4024s	way you issue a command to like open
4026s	your stash is by issuing a move command
4028s	on it
4031s	um I don't
4039s	know is that MTX I don't know if that's
4043s	MTX
4052s	I I I honestly have no idea what it
4057s	is it's not MTX thank you
4072s	Kane that is good old fashioned find it
4074s	and put it on
4088s	gear I would like to be able to rebind
4090s	the AY Force attack from Minions to my
4092s	middle Mouse scroll but I tried today
4094s	but didn't recognize my input yeah um
4097s	I'm I'm sorry I do not know any problems
4100s	that are happening with that right now
4103s	um
4108s	you can rebind in Windows your mouse
4111s	button to just do the aky if you want
4113s	when you're playing the
4116s	game I know that's not really a solution
4118s	but if you're if you're really looking
4120s	for a work around it's the best I got
4121s	for
4133s	you
4146s	something all pre-1.0 owners get Delux
4148s	there there's you already got a bunch of
4151s	stuff you already got your your pre- 1.0
4158s	stuff oh it's an enemy it's not
4163s	gear oh I
4166s	I I definitely wrote it down on the on
4171s	the preview thing obs's new gear
4175s	sorry that's an enemy my bad take a look
4179s	at it
4185s	here
4192s	whoops this is why I need
4195s	[Laughter]
4198s	supervision all crits all the
4211s	time I do think it would be kind of cool
4213s	to like have an MTX where you like where
4215s	you you looked like um a specific enemy
4219s	or something like that and then like
4221s	some hidden Easter egg in the cutcenes
4223s	this is not happening I'm just I think
4225s	it' be cool um we're like if you're
4228s	wearing the MTX of that character when
4230s	you reach that character in The Campaign
4231s	they like make some comment about like
4233s	oh you look good
4235s	there be
4239s	sweet or compliment your fashion
4251s	sense can you have its gear after you
4253s	kill it and
4261s	no heavy
4264s	gaming what's going on how's it going
4267s	glad to have you here 30 months in a row
4269s	that's a big one that's a real big
4280s	one I tried to use the the bottle you
4285s	gave me at a local
4286s	Brewery um and they were like they they
4289s	didn't they don't fill up that
4291s	size
4293s	um so and they were like no you got you
4295s	got to use ours I'm like oh come on or
4298s	like the the the same size or something
4301s	I don't
4302s	know they were weird about
4305s	it I called another one and they're like
4307s	yeah we'll do it no
4309s	problem so I'm going to that one next
4313s	time
4321s	I have a feeling the first one didn't
4322s	understand what I was asking
4324s	for type type thing it was it's a bit of
4327s	a misunderstanding
4329s	there do we go full fire that's the
4332s	question I kind of want
4335s	to but I kind of want to just invest in
4337s	the damage right now
4342s	first
4349s	cuz we go fire Forge strike as
4358s	well
4366s	Idol
4369s	yes
4372s	yes
4377s	uh I asked this a long long time ago but
4379s	now that lesser games like Street
4381s	Fighter fortnite and Final Fantasy soon
4383s	have gotten them H secret layer when
4387s	secret layer like like uh like a hide
4390s	out U like like a place for you to go to
4392s	where you can like customize the stuff
4394s	and be like oh this is my this is where
4397s	I come to hang out this my bat cave
4402s	um
4404s	it's we don't have any active plans to
4407s	make that at the moment there would have
4408s	to be some
4411s	um a lot of other things finished first
4413s	before we did that
4416s	uh not limited to um some server
4419s	architecture
4421s	changes
4425s	um having a bunch of people in one scene
4429s	if they're if they're going to and from
4430s	that scene to like access their
4433s	utilities like stash and respecing and
4436s	things like that having those people on
4437s	a single server is really valuable to
4441s	us um so everyone splitting off into
4445s	their own secret hideouts is kind of
4449s	costly for
4451s	us uh so it's definitely no time
4458s	soon when you said secret L my first
4461s	thought was like magic X lasty Punk is
4463s	that what you're talking about
4466s	I should have looked at which IPS there
4468s	were Street Fighter is fortnite getting
4471s	a magic release I didn't see
4477s	that that's that's where I was okay so I
4480s	I know like Street Fighter has theirs
4482s	I'm using the universes within version
4486s	of zangi as one of my commanders and I
4488s	love
4491s	it
4492s	uh
4498s	it's in the box
4499s	somewhere
4505s	um if if if Wizards ever wants to do a
4509s	collaboration with
4510s	us oh my God I am oh I'm I'm torn cuz
4515s	I've I've ried so hard against outside
4518s	IP universes Beyond
4521s	stuff but like the opportunity to like
4524s	get content into magic oh my God that's
4527s	a dream come
4528s	true I'm very
4530s	torn let mine in but no one else's
4534s	right that's
4549s	terrible yeah yeah sorry I answered the
4552s	completely wrong question sorry but yes
4554s	um uh magic secret layers are are a
4557s	thing they are they are really sweet I
4559s	do like just when it's like uh an art
4561s	rework of an existing card uh they do
4565s	that I really like those um I I'm I'm
4569s	just not a big fan of the mechanically
4570s	unique universes Beyond
4577s	cards but I cave and I got a bunch of
4580s	Lord of the Rings cards because they're
4581s	great and I love Lord of the Rings but
4586s	the line is
4589s	blurry all right recently I saw someone
4592s	ask about the celestial weapon skins
4593s	from Kickstarter have we ever seen what
4596s	those look like they they're in game
4598s	people can use those
4601s	uh nope wrong
4604s	thing I don't have access to them on
4606s	this account oh I could go give myself
4608s	access I'm not going to do it while the
4610s	stream's open though just in case I mess
4612s	up
4627s	if you want to see what those look like
4628s	you should be able to find someone um I
4632s	look I'll on the Discord to see someone
4633s	that's tagged with a high enough uh tier
4636s	and they should be able to show it to
4639s	you we get we still free up to four I
4642s	can handle four
4648s	maybe it might check that point
4650s	out or I may have to invest in this one
4654s	more point in that node that'll be back
4656s	to
4657s	zero that's fine what did this node give
4660s	us was it really good the fire shredded
4663s	okay that's that's pretty good
4672s	yeah
4676s	all
4687s	right I didn't if you get them what they
4690s	look like yeah um they they should be in
4693s	game
4698s	if Kane if it's really easy to get a
4701s	picture of one of them
4710s	but if it's not don't worry about
4714s	it will the kickstarter Halo ntx be
4717s	coming with 1.0 I believe so I saw some
4719s	be working on
4725s	it not 100%
4732s	sure
4740s	even internally only people the correct
4742s	Kickstarter tiers have access to them
4744s	outside of testing Kickstarter exclusive
4745s	is just that yeah I do have like so this
4748s	account that I'm playing on here is not
4749s	this account didn't exist when
4751s	Kickstarter uh was happening I do have
4753s	another account that properly has the
4760s	stuff but this is my this is my
4762s	developer account so it's kind of bare
4778s	bones I technically I'm out an item
4780s	creation skin or skin an item
4784s	design you hear that I'm coming for it
4787s	you got to put in whatever I
4792s	want
4795s	like I haven't had a bajillion of those
4812s	already I do love that the walls in here
4814s	are kind of
4818s	suggestions and we are we we're like the
4821s	the tiny bit of Mana cost on uh on
4824s	Shield throw is been is having a weirdly
4827s	heavy impact on how much uh how
4830s	consistent our damage output is which is
4835s	interesting so next passive point where
4838s	are we for not far next F point is
4841s	definitely going in oh we're looking at
4844s	this
4845s	one far away yeah not that
4849s	bad stand down
4852s	or
4857s	I maybe just going to take that point
4860s	out oo that look like a decent ring base
4862s	for
4875s	crafting uh yeah just get the damage
4879s	up we want that to hit hard
4893s	the rain the rain here is super cool and
4895s	I love the way it looks and it's going
4896s	to look so much better soon too it's
4897s	just going to get better and
4899s	better like there's some Shadow stuff
4901s	that does look really nice in here I
4904s	kind I I I was initially when I saw this
4906s	I was like why are they swaying so
4908s	perfectly and like the thing that's
4910s	making them sway is connecting in the
4913s	same way to both of
4916s	them cuz we're on a
4930s	boat want to say that I really like Le
4933s	and I think RPGs are really good place
4934s	right now yeah playing grimon at the
4936s	moment oh grimon is such a good update
4937s	right now um uh keep your fantastic work
4941s	we'll probably play L tomorrow Ah that's
4943s	awesome thanks for thanks for hanging
4945s	out and playing our game and being
4950s	awesome let's find the captain of this
4954s	ship who's in charge around
4962s	here that the These Guys these C are are
4966s	like surprisingly deadly just be careful
4969s	of
4972s	them
4975s	all
4981s	right definely going there definitely
4983s	going there what am I doing it's like
4985s	the shield throw
4998s	node I got I got to get this that level
5001s	up happened
5003s	uh which means I should still be able to
5005s	level
5008s	okay we got to get that point cuz right
5011s	now four mana's making a big
5023s	difference the ship will be
5029s	your oh also probably should have him
5032s	out
5036s	let's run around in the circle for a bit
5037s	let's find another question to answer no
5038s	more
5040s	questions I need a question to
5044s	survive it's
5048s	okay oh that'll do get off my
5053s	Spike you said for three months I feel
5056s	like that's that that may have been
5057s	higher a lot higher and something lapsed
5060s	and uh starting back up again but thank
5061s	you very much
5063s	I appreciate it I recognize that name
5065s	that's all is De you having fun hello
5070s	there we go
5071s	hello all right hi heav you are there
5073s	any plans for MTX that are not purely
5076s	visual with something like custom voice
5078s	lines or skins that can change voice uh
5081s	voiceover or have custom voiceovers or
5083s	maybe a unique that speaks to you with
5085s	unique voice lines I mean that all
5086s	sounds awesome
5089s	um I I don't I haven't heard anything
5091s	like that
5093s	but uh I do really like the idea and I
5095s	think I think that uh voice lines will
5098s	be
5100s	tricky
5104s	um we still we're still we're still
5105s	working on some of the voice lines for
5107s	the actual
5108s	game
5116s	um yourself upon my
5121s	body that was a funny
5125s	line U not nothing specific
5131s	sorry all right
5133s	Haren I know I'm hiding like most of the
5135s	gear you just dropped but poor
5138s	showing come
5140s	on hurry I'm bre you'll have to I'll
5143s	take that as a yes get to the railing
5146s	and give a signal when the cage used to
5148s	be up here didn't
5151s	it
5156s	right am I crazy well yeah but like
5160s	about
5163s	this this armor fire damage armor
5167s	Health slap that up there another double
5172s	healther yeah the good stuff right
5181s	there
5185s	[Music]
5189s	yeah I'll only slow you down please go
5193s	on without me you will only slow me down
5196s	you'll sit
5198s	there the item talks you gimmick after
5201s	100 hours of play time with
5205s	it I mean if there was going to be
5207s	something like that there would have to
5208s	be a way to turn it off
5211s	right I mean or or or just like have it
5215s	be exactly that have it be a gimmick
5216s	have it be a fun little
5219s	thing like that that you don't expect
5224s	to you know to work or anything like
5227s	that just fun little oh that's a neat
5229s	little Easter egg that's cool
5232s	um so never becomes part of a meta build
5235s	or
5238s	anything I mean or or you just go to the
5240s	settings and turn off voice lines you
5241s	know
5247s	let me
5251s	in all right fine I'll come back
5254s	later or earlier I I'll come back
5257s	earlier
5261s	yeah I'll have come back now
5268s	later there's a weird way that
5271s	works
5280s	does anyone have any like sleeper time
5282s	travel movies or TV shows they really
5285s	like um like like something that's you
5288s	know there's there's like the classic
5290s	like Back to the Future definitely not a
5292s	sleeper um but recently I was
5295s	recommended the movie
5297s	primer that's uh it's a little bit older
5300s	the the I think the budg may have been a
5303s	little on the Lower Side
5307s	um but the writing is fantastic and the
5311s	like oh if you can figure that out and
5313s	First Watch through I will be
5316s	unbelievably
5322s	impressed I tried I tried to figure it
5324s	out without watching a YouTube video on
5325s	it but I got it
5331s	wrong
5338s	but my favorite time travel
5342s	movie
5345s	Personally it's Bill and
5349s	Ted and I think it's an underrated uh
5352s	time travel movie for one specific scene
5357s	when they're trying they're trying to
5358s	like break into a police
5360s	station at one point and
5363s	like's like hey Bill yeah Ted remind me
5366s	to to call the police station later or
5369s	something like that like like when
5372s	because they'll like go back in time and
5375s	and then like from a phone help
5377s	themselves in the present and by
5379s	actively telling each other to remind
5380s	each other to do something it
5383s	automatically happens because they've
5385s	gone back and done it because they've
5386s	remember to do it and it's it's just
5388s	like they they realize that because they
5390s	own a time machine they have the ability
5393s	to affect things in the present be
5395s	telling themselves to remember to go
5396s	back in time and change something in the
5402s	present and that that that that moment
5404s	was
5406s	uh
5409s	like really enjoyed
5413s	that it was me you stole my Dad's keys
5415s	yeah yeah you you know you know you know
5416s	what's
5419s	up it's been a while since I've seen the
5421s	movie so I probably got something wrong
5422s	there I apologize but
5428s	yes forgot it was his dad's
5441s	Keys it's the most excellent adventure
5451s	yeah
5453s	dev be like goal of the day create a
5455s	gimicky item that will never become men
5457s	as if people won't complain about it I
5459s	mean that is exactly what my thought
5462s	process was I'm like if we're going to
5463s	do something funny and gimicky like that
5466s	it would it wouldn't be able to be
5467s	actually like
5481s	powerful
5484s	what if they forget to remind the other
5485s	person well they'll know because it
5487s	won't happen and they'll be like no no
5489s	really you got to remind
5492s	me and they'll know if they remember to
5494s	remind them or
5498s	not oh oh oh we got it yes free
5511s	Shield
5514s	wasn't
5515s	it wasn't it just six did
5520s	I did I do something
5525s	wrong that not working is funny feel
5528s	like I've brought that up
5529s	before
5533s	huh what did I do
5540s	wrong cuz I did something
5546s	wrong it's
5552s	okay I'm just going to take that passive
5554s	point
5571s	out
5572s	[Music]
5597s	might answer your question you got ping
5598s	me all right let's go back and see what
5600s	it was thank you evby uh I think other
5601s	games developers missed the loot filter
5604s	uh I think you have actually succeeded
5606s	with this part very well thank you uh
5608s	what were your
5609s	thoughts about this when you started
5611s	with last Depot um having a built-in
5614s	loot filter was a very early
5618s	decision
5621s	um the extent to which the loot filter
5624s	exists was a little bit less of a cut
5628s	and dry like well yeah obviously we're
5630s	going to do that type decision
5634s	um but there but there there was
5636s	basically right from the beginning us
5638s	being like are we are we going to do a
5639s	loot filter yes we're going to do a loot
5645s	filter like that that was the that was
5648s	the are we going to do loot filter
5651s	discussion um and a lot of that came
5653s	down to um you know wanting to keep
5655s	things primarily in engine if we can not
5658s	having people go to um like other
5662s	download other programs to make the game
5663s	Run the way they want it to um which can
5667s	work fantastic
5674s	too but I think a big part of it is that
5676s	a big part of why we have a loot filter
5679s	came down to
5681s	um not wanting
5684s	to uh curate the items for the players
5688s	too
5689s	heavily um cuz cuz we know that we don't
5693s	always know what's best for for for the
5696s	players what what we don't know what
5697s	items they want and um we really didn't
5701s	want to get in a situation where someone
5702s	was farming on one class for items on
5707s	another class because you were making a
5708s	weird build on that other
5710s	class and uh the only way to farm
5713s	efficiently for those items was on like
5716s	like say say you're trying to make a
5717s	two-handed Rob and um we're like oh yeah
5720s	we're not going to drop you any
5721s	two-handed weapons on roads at all and
5723s	so you got to farm on and there is a
5724s	reduction actually so I'm kind of making
5726s	the opposite Point here but um you it's
5729s	not as bad as just like never showing
5732s	two-handed swords or something like that
5734s	on a rogue and then having to be like
5735s	okay I'm going to go onto a forge guard
5737s	to farm my weapon for my rogue we we
5739s	didn't want that to
5742s	happen um so we wanted to have the Loot
5744s	drop be basically
5746s	just willy-nilly
5749s	like drops are basically the same for
5752s	everyone um which meant there's needs to
5754s	be a lot of items dropping in order to
5757s	reliably get something that's an upgrade
5760s	um and because there's way more gear
5762s	that you don't want than you do
5764s	want even if you even if you drop 20
5767s	awesome pieces of gear most of them
5769s	won't be for your build um and so we we
5774s	didn't want
5776s	to try and guess what items you needed
5778s	for the build you're playing like
5781s	there's there's a whole bunch of abuse
5782s	cases that come into play there as well
5783s	so it's kind of like we just wanted gear
5785s	to be the drops to be very random uh
5788s	which meant we need a lot of them which
5790s	meant we needed a way to have the
5791s	players curate what those drops are at
5793s	least what they
5794s	see
5797s	um a loot
5809s	filter just Final Destination count the
5812s	time tral
5813s	movie I don't think so
5825s	maybe I don't think so I think it's a
5827s	movie with time travel in it I think
5828s	it's a time travel
5839s	M can't my future self drop me some L4
5842s	[Laughter]
5844s	items the the epoch uh you have less
5847s	control over it than you might think um
5851s	you're kind of more just asking it to do
5853s	things for you and it's deciding if it
5855s	wants to yeah I completely making that
5870s	up
5879s	oh cybor getting in trouble get him Kane
5882s	get
5897s	no I'm really enjoying this like hybrid
5900s	like Melee throwing build
5904s	here I don't know how I ruined my Mana
5907s	cost for
5908s	it but somehow I just ruined
5914s	it I like take that point out it's still
5916s	going to be the same
5920s	cost I don't know what I
5924s	did thought I'm going to take that right
5930s	now
5940s	there's just so much Fire Res in
5942s	here so much Fire
5948s	Res let's get some
5959s	melica now the AR
5962s	hey now I've seen how you handle
5964s	yourself all you need to do is clear a
5969s	path clear a path eh I can do
5978s	that my back is stiff
5985s	today our poison is like 51 no
5990s	problem
5996s	we should we should really be taking a a
5998s	closer look at the gear we're wearing
6002s	cuz I believe a lot of it has forging
6003s	potential
6011s	still you know or have opportunities for
6013s	sweet
6017s	things coal
6019s	penetration hybrid stun voidance
6022s	[Music]
6025s	ah uh not
6027s	useful we're going to potion use H let's
6030s	get rid of spell damage first minion
6031s	Health we do have minions but a crit
6034s	chance much better Cal
6037s	damage still an
6043s	upgrade let me
6046s	throw let me let me this is the problem
6048s	with this
6050s	map it's to too much the same
6064s	color let's see buried in the
6068s	slums she told ding there it ising there
6071s	it is they were the same content
6079s	to I I am so confused why this didn't
6082s	reduce the Mana cost
6092s	more I'm I'm just like sitting here
6094s	trying to figure it
6100s	out I'm definitely going to like
6102s	immediately as soon as the streams over
6103s	go look and see
6105s	why and if it's a bug that I can
6110s	fix
6117s	I promise I don't only fix bugs for
6119s	builds that I'm
6122s	playing that would be
6133s	terrible but I do get extra motivated
6135s	for
6137s	them are there some plans to bring slow
6140s	heavy hitting skills a little bit more
6141s	in line with the spamming skills for
6143s	example something like positive ailment
6145s	frequency above 100% we dabbled with the
6147s	with with the ailment
6150s	um like basically an ailment version of
6154s	um
6157s	the um added damage
6161s	multiplier like how um added added
6164s	damage on Forge strike is more valuable
6166s	than added damage on RVE for example um
6170s	does it say it
6171s	[Music]
6183s	here add oh the B add damage applies at
6186s	400% Effectiveness so that um compared
6189s	to
6190s	like uh where's R
6193s	yeah the first two are 100 the third
6195s	one's 200 Effectiveness So like um that
6198s	we we tried to do that with
6201s	um ailments actually we looked at
6206s	that it didn't really
6214s	work um I'd say it's unlikely that
6217s	that'll get pushed in anytime soon if at
6227s	all three when she told me it had take
6230s	the courage of for Ruby NASA I didn't
6232s	expect this but it's one step closer to
6236s	get uh when going through the Tim Rift
6239s	thingies we used to have a wormhole
6241s	effect animation it's still in the game
6243s	but only in a couple spots now and the
6245s	rest were changed to a normal loading
6246s	screen how come um we frequently get
6249s	feedback that people don't like that
6253s	um one of the biggest problems with it
6255s	is that it doesn't play during a loading
6257s	screen um and we for a long time we just
6260s	like get being like just load the game
6262s	while it's doing that it's fine well it
6264s	looks terrible when you do that it looks
6266s	really terrible when you do that cuz it
6268s	it it's this huge moving effect on
6270s	screen and it hitches and stops and um
6275s	and and it just people do not like the
6276s	way that looks um it's it's definitely
6280s	worse that way so um we have to play it
6284s	and then load afterwards which it
6286s	extends the loading screen um and no one
6289s	likes long loading screens one of the
6290s	things we try and do is is make short
6291s	loading screens um I know it may not
6294s	seem like that sometimes but it's where
6297s	we put a ton of our effort towards the
6298s	shorter loading
6301s	screens
6302s	um see I get really fast loading screens
6305s	makes you better than hope um what am I
6309s	getting
6310s	that oh why is that out there yeah and
6312s	so we we we put it that it's also kind
6315s	of an outdated visual we kind of want to
6317s	make it look nicer we also got quite a
6319s	few reports not well quite a few
6322s	exaggeration we got some people saying
6324s	that it would um like make them dizzy I
6327s	I know my wife can't look at it she saw
6329s	it once when we were making it like a
6331s	year ago or two years ago whenever it
6332s	was and uh like walked into the room I
6334s	was I'm like hey come look at this thing
6336s	and she like walks in looks at the
6338s	spinning thing on the screen and just
6339s	goes uh
6342s	nope I'm going to
6347s	puke but she can't play half lifee
6349s	without puking so
6352s	probably not a good litness test my
6353s	point
6355s	is
6357s	um we we we did get a fair bit of
6359s	negative feedback on that so we reduced
6362s	the places that it
6365s	exists um but I do know that that type
6367s	of effect is it's it's it's um
6370s	definitely a nod it's a it's a nod to
6372s	Chrono Trigger um that one is a little
6376s	it's like it's like there's two planes
6377s	that squish in and then like a line that
6379s	like goes wavy back and forth
6383s	um but when you do major time travel
6386s	events uh in Chron trigger that the type
6388s	of effect that
6390s	plays
6395s	um and and there's other like you know
6397s	Stargate has something really similar
6399s	and uh I'm sure there's other ones too
6402s	but you know like there's there's
6403s	various things and so yeah we we we we
6404s	do really like the effect but
6408s	um seeing it too many times is probably
6411s	not ideal I think they we'll see it if
6413s	we can make it play at the same time as
6415s	a loading screen you'll see it
6416s	definitely more than if we can make it
6419s	play um this Square I wish I'd seen it I
6423s	can only imagine just make it look nicer
6424s	in general we'll probably see it more
6426s	then
6428s	too I got one more teaser to do we're
6430s	getting late on we're getting long on
6431s	the tooth in this stream so all
6434s	right I'm going to bring that up real
6436s	soon next next resit next Zone
6438s	transition or death
6454s	hope everything is going well is that a
6455s	new uh new logo shirt nope last week I
6459s	was wearing the old logo
6462s	shirt this is this has been the this is
6465s	our third shirt logo uh and has been our
6468s	primary shirt logo for a couple years
6469s	now
6474s	oh my
6477s	goodness put the map up there I can't
6479s	see
6489s	it
6499s	damage
6503s	uh speak of negative feedback what was
6505s	the thingy that got changed based on
6506s	community feedback that you would never
6508s	have expected to get critiqued that much
6511s	that's never thought of changing it that
6512s	much that's a great question I don't
6514s	have a good answer for it
6522s	um I don't know um let me put this cool
6526s	little guy
6528s	up well I think about that
6532s	what got so much negative feedback that
6534s	we had to change it that we wouldn't
6535s	have
6540s	expected the crafting system the old
6542s	crafting
6544s	system the
6546s	like and I completely understand why you
6549s	got so much negative feedback
6551s	now
6555s	um well academically I can understand
6559s	it um
6562s	but when it when it used to
6564s	show uh percent chance for hard success
6568s	failure
6571s	um the old the old crafting system so
6574s	like uh that for anyone that doesn't
6577s	know so so we have this forging
6578s	potential number up here
6580s	now um and it it starts at a number and
6584s	that's the max you have and it like
6585s	ticks down as you as you forge on it as
6588s	you craft on the item you're using up
6590s	this resource that the item has to be
6591s	crafted this potential um and when it
6593s	hits zero it's the item's done in the
6596s	past we actually had a number that
6597s	started at zero and ticked up called
6600s	instability um and as you did more
6603s	things to the item the instability went
6605s	up and uh at some point you would do a
6608s	craft and or as as the instability went
6611s	up the chances of The Craft uh locking
6613s	the item completely would go up and um
6617s	so it's like if it's it's in it's
6620s	incredibly similar to what we have now
6622s	effectively but um it feels very
6626s	different to use and I never would have
6631s	really
6632s	thought um that was something I was
6635s	surprised about how how negative the
6636s	feedback was and a lot a lot of that was
6639s	based on like
6643s	um like like misconceptions and how the
6645s	system worked and um you know logical
6649s	fallacies and things like that but it it
6651s	didn't really matter what the basis of
6653s	it was the the feelings that actually
6656s	that the players experienced was the
6658s	most important thing really the why was
6660s	kind of irrelevant um the why was
6662s	important to how we fixed it um but the
6665s	why was irrelevant to uh if it needed
6668s	fixing or
6679s	not
6687s	I almost need to put like just Auto
6689s	attack on my
6699s	bar all right can you play seasonal
6701s	content without creating a new character
6703s	and what kind of progress will be moved
6704s	to regular mode after the season um so
6707s	for the uh for 1.0
6711s	cycle and non cycle will have the same
6713s	content so you can play existing
6715s	characters on cycle content like falcon
6719s	or warlock item factions all of those
6722s	things the major cycle content is
6724s	releasing simultaneously on um all game
6728s	modes
6730s	um when you when when the cycle ends and
6734s	the characters like short version It's
6738s	Poe version It's po it's Poe style if
6740s	you know that is great um longer
6742s	version um I guess it's actually closer
6745s	I should say it's Diablo 2 style it's
6746s	closer to that technically it's they're
6748s	slightly different
6750s	um but basically what's going to happen
6753s	is what's the
6755s	sound it's weird all the stuff you have
6758s	on your character will get moved over um
6762s	the we don't have a system for moving
6763s	your stash just yet because we're
6765s	because it's it doesn't matter um
6767s	because there's no there's not going to
6768s	be a stash um uh like transition
6771s	conflict that's going to happen I'm
6773s	playing with this up still I'm
6781s	sorry you don't care about my gameplay
6783s	anyways you just want to see the cool
6785s	stuff
6790s	right oh I'm the worst
6793s	sometimes uh yeah so the the
6798s	you'll when it finishes and things to
6800s	transfer over we still have to work out
6802s	how stashes are going to get transferred
6804s	over but it'll probably be through a
6806s	remove only tab where you can pull your
6807s	items out of it but you can't put new
6809s	items into it so you're not getting a
6811s	ton of free stash tabs each time it
6813s	rolls over
6818s	um uh but
6828s	yeah a yes
6834s	Blues way too good it did make Blues
6835s	really good to be fair though both
6837s	versions of the crafting system are what
6839s	I would call an RPG Revolution both them
6841s	I mean thank you I
6844s	uh love both of
6847s	them I I think I I do enjoy the one we
6850s	have now
6851s	more um so like as confused as I was by
6855s	the feedback initially and frustrated by
6858s	the feedback I was uh after a while um I
6862s	do think it was really a really good
6865s	thing that we got that feedback and were
6867s	able to like action on it
6873s	um throwing attacks deal increase damage
6875s	Bas on Mana cost uh oh I want get this
6878s	down to zero though still
6883s	sweet just just just Shield throw
6889s	right
6892s	yeah so I'm really glad that we did get
6894s	the feedback and that we changed the
6896s	system because I do like it more now
6899s	think it was an overall
6907s	Improvement you wanted to see how long
6908s	it would last not that much longer
6910s	because the stream's almost
6916s	over one day I'll learn to do that
6932s	yes 35 get that spec slot what point
6939s	for all right are we going
6942s	with our manifest armor I think
6947s	so Shield bash is an option rebuke is an
6953s	option uh ring of shields will be an
6955s	option
6957s	eventually I think we just I think we
6959s	just pop manifest armor in there for now
6961s	just to get a few
6965s	things uh where do have a good stats
6968s	that we want to give him most of our
6971s	stuff uniqu he gets very little from uh
6974s	so the helmet's probably the best way to
6976s	do it the if wielding is nothing so
6979s	strength health regen and
6983s	endurance that chest is not doing us any
6986s	favors my goodness we should be
6987s	switching that out oh my
6994s	God okay next time next time we're going
6997s	to do a crafting session at the start
6999s	and we're g to fix our gear cuz
7005s	gross we are going to take stats from
7007s	chest here to
7008s	start
7013s	it's just
7024s	awful
7029s	okay it's
7038s	funny
7046s	like playing Iron Man mode all the all
7048s	the stats are useless even though it's
7050s	yellow
7052s	hey accidentally playing Iron Man mode
7055s	thank you very
7061s	much I got the sick Shield that's all we
7064s	need
7068s	right
7080s	accidentally being a
7082s	noob
7094s	yep
7095s	[Music]
7097s	oo okay
7103s	okay oh this is going to be funny for a
7107s	second I should I should have stretched
7109s	it before I switch
7111s	it oh come on let me prize
7116s	this so frustrating okay
7119s	whatever
7121s	um charity logo's tiny for a minute
7124s	we're going to we're we're going to
7124s	craft on this we're going to we're going
7125s	to end the stream with a little
7128s	crafting uh
7138s	uh all right okay that's really
7142s	good
7146s	um I I think we we go just straight fire
7149s	damage here do we try and seal the fire
7154s	damage lucky roll but didn't get
7158s	it
7163s	okay and got a good
7165s	roll it's not exactly where you want the
7167s	seal to happen
7169s	but
7173s	um can we do is there any other
7176s	blocks Health
7178s	[Music]
7180s	Region we have that we want to put here
7183s	endurance is prob our crit avoidance
7184s	that's what we
7188s	want
7194s	okay Terri terrible
7197s	base just an awful
7204s	base somehow still better than that
7211s	though very
7218s	cool back over
7226s	here Dodge blocking the class you're
7228s	playing now is called ninja
7232s	KN ah I mean the implicits a wasted
7235s	thatat yeah but I got I got the U I got
7237s	a sealed stat on it so the the 24 health
7240s	is is the new implicit stat there we
7248s	go
7254s	now imagine a new crafting mat
7255s	transference axes to a base
7260s	yeah I'd really like so the there's no
7263s	real way to affect based types in the
7265s	game right
7266s	now
7268s	um and personally so this is this is
7271s	just a what Mike wants not what it's
7273s	going to happen CU those rarely line up
7277s	uh but personally i' really like to see
7281s	um a dungeon reward that lets you like
7285s	reforge an items base type or something
7287s	like
7293s	that you know like step on a butterfly
7295s	and that Rings past and see what happens
7298s	just changes a slightly different color
7300s	ring all right
7304s	well not all about dos for
7308s	today
7311s	thanks for coming by everybody I had a
7313s	ton of fun I hope you did too
7317s	um I'll be back same time same place
7320s	next week uh be hanging out playing some
7323s	more Epoch answering some more questions
7325s	if I didn't answer your question um if I
7327s	just missed it or uh you're watching
7330s	this on on YouTube or something you
7331s	don't have a chance to ask live please
7333s	head on over to our Discord and uh go on
7335s	asid's channel feel free to ask the
7336s	questions there be happy to answer them
7339s	also ask Community Channel they got tons
7340s	of great people answering questions all
7342s	the time
7345s	uh that's about all I've got for
7351s	you yeah everyone's I hope everyone had
7355s	everyone who likes to eat turkey and
7356s	celebrates turkey day I hope you had a
7358s	great turkey day
7362s	yesterday let's go say hi to this person
7365s	they look
7367s	cool yeah this is actually one of the
7370s	other builds I was considering playing
7371s	for
7378s	this all right uh yeah until next time I
7382s	hope you have a wonderful time drink
7383s	lots of
7392s	water

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