[2024] Developer Live Stream 11.29.24 | Last epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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3s	good afternoon everybody and welcome
5s	back to another last Epoch Dev
9s	stream as usual I'm your host Mike and
12s	look at that coincidentally I happened
13s	to be wearing the right shirt and I just
15s	looked down and found that out woo it
18s	was a a busy one to get
21s	here but we did it we made
25s	it um we're going to hop right back in
28s	we're going have some fun uh we've never
29s	cleared this one we're going to clear
32s	it
35s	oh how's everybody doing today oh feels
38s	like a good day today I'm excited I got
41s	some cool stuff to share hope you all
44s	are ready to oh relax fun stream we
47s	going do a boss
48s	fight kick things
51s	off starting next stream I think I'm
54s	going to be playing a new build um I
56s	think we're going to start doing the
57s	community Spotlight builds so we do the
61s	um if you haven't seen it yet there's a
62s	sweet post the ATA week Ora monthly post
65s	sorry uh the November one just got uh
67s	put
68s	out and there's some awesome awesome
70s	stuff in it and uh I think we're going
74s	to
75s	start uh doing like
78s	uh where like have the have like the
80s	build of the build of the month every
81s	month and then I'll play that on stream
84s	um so people can get a get a feel for
86s	what it looks like actually
94s	Aaron hi Mike subathon done I'm free 65
97s	days I saw yeah it is uh your death has
101s	you had you had a sneaky strategy for
102s	for ending it not calling any attention
104s	to it I think that was uh smart and uh I
108s	definitely would not uh suggest that it
110s	was cheating at all uh that's that's a
113s	totally totally okay thing to do uh
116s	totally yeah yeah well
118s	done but but all serious that was pretty
121s	pretty fantastic and uh I'm glad it went
123s	so well for
131s	you me hey Daddy Mike we need some
134s	updates you need some updates have I got
137s	updates for
140s	you oh excuse
145s	me the sound of my lunch was not the
147s	update
150s	and I
151s	apologize will not take me Mike isn't
154s	Aaron contracted to do another subathon
156s	when season two gets here
159s	oh see now if if we're oh that was
164s	close if we're full on doing that and uh
169s	then is there their conflicting interest
170s	here where Aaron wants it to be delayed
172s	more and
175s	more you want you want Aaron to be on
177s	your side to be to be telling us to to
179s	do it at least as sooner
192s	right all
204s	right and no just for the record aon's
207s	not contracted to a subathon but I think
209s	he said he was going to uh
212s	himself do do SUB start of season 2 and
216s	I think because the midseason event
218s	happened
221s	um at the same time where he expected
223s	season 2 to come I think that was the
225s	same subathon cuz he's going to like
226s	before the end of the year so I think I
228s	think he's for his own self-imposed
230s	contract I think he's fulfilled his
232s	obligations but you
234s	know I wouldn't hate to see another one
236s	cuz I do love them
242s	your death has come all
245s	right if you do have a question please
248s	feel free to ask it please put at last
250s	defa game in the question so I see it
252s	and know you want me to answer it also
254s	we stream for charity boom child's plays
255s	our charity this month they do wonderful
259s	stuff check them out show them some love
261s	all the all the everything from stream
262s	goes to whoever we're we're charity
265s	streaming for that month I know I know
267s	all the terms cuz I uh yeah this
274s	is something I should know
278s	right PA Saint welcome good evening Mike
281s	and I have a great and have a great
283s	stream thank you very much Mike uh the
286s	chronicler proposal is posted and I
289s	promise this is the last you'll hear of
291s	this for a good
292s	while is is the chronicler the um new
297s	name for the traveler class
301s	is it is it a reworked version of
305s	that cuz I read the original
308s	one did I forget to leave
312s	feedback okay you'll have you'll have to
313s	tell me if I if I remember to leave
314s	feedback or not cuz I I remember writing
317s	up a big thing for
319s	you on uh on your second one the the
323s	Dragon Knight it wasn't that big it was
325s	a little little little paragraph or two
327s	I think and I don't remember remember if
330s	I actually posted it or
333s	not part of me is like did I like write
335s	it out and then be like okay I'll prove
337s	for you this and post it later and there
338s	just never posted it so let me know if I
340s	remember to do that
343s	please pretty sure I
346s	did I hope I
354s	did uh hi Mike hope you're good with all
356s	the hyper on poe2 do you guys feel any
358s	pressure in the action art RPG space I
361s	mean yeah there's always tons of
362s	pressure coming from like uh from from
365s	he of Exile from Diablo from plenty of
367s	other games too that are fantastic
370s	um and I pressure might be the wrong
373s	word I think there's um like a little
377s	bit of a renewed interest in the genre
379s	right now
381s	um and we're in this like we're in this
383s	odd space like a week before their beta
385s	starts where we can like almost like
389s	there's more tra
391s	um but at the same time a lot of it's
393s	around po2 and we don't we're not quite
396s	ready to start like just hey look at all
399s	this stuff uh cuz I think it might get
400s	kind of lost in the pe2
403s	beta so I don't know I don't know what
405s	the strategy is around that but uh I'm
408s	pumped for the po2 beta think going be
410s	sweet or the Early Access
414s	sorry I don't know I think I think it's
416s	going to be really interesting to play
417s	and see the the similarities and
419s	differences and things cuz I I know that
420s	there's
422s	um like by starting fresh again they
425s	managed to tackle a lot of the same
427s	problems without having to like tackle
430s	all the same problems we've had to
431s	tackle without having to build off of an
433s	existing system similar and so I think
435s	that a lot of the ways that they've
436s	approached some of these problems um
439s	from a design perspective is kind of
440s	similar to what we've gone for as well
442s	like um sounds bad it's not what I mean
446s	um like
448s	the where where you start looking
450s	looking at a problem and say how do we
451s	fix that and then there's you're not
452s	holding to a previous system to fix it
454s	in a certain way makes sense um and so
458s	I'm interested to see some of the
460s	solutions they've come up with uh
461s	because I think they'll be more relevant
463s	to last Epoch than pee1 have
466s	been
468s	um and in some cames will just be the
470s	same and in some cases they'll be
471s	completely different
482s	which build is it right now you playing
485s	right now I am playing a harvest
488s	L um see we're fully into Harvest or
492s	into Lich here uh there's the stuff
494s	we've
496s	got really quickly I'll show you my
498s	skill trees you can clip this and pause
500s	it and if you want to see all the
503s	stuff uh but we're using basically
505s	reperform uh to get a bunch of damage
507s	and not die death seals a ton of extra
510s	damage bone Cur a ton of extra damage uh
512s	Harvest does the damage and triggers all
514s	the things and Transplant lets us move
517s	places it's kind of it's kind of about
518s	it transplants also a bunch of our
520s	culling as well um primary weapon really
523s	important uh this is good I really like
525s	this this is sweet and a bunch of other
527s	random
530s	stuff also got this so I've been trying
532s	to get Titan heart incorporate into the
534s	build um it's not quite a good enough
537s	one I don't think to really do but
540s	the the the lack of regeneration and
542s	lack of Ward gain puts me in very
544s	awkward positions cuz I'll be like
546s	sitting in town and I'll be like you see
549s	what happens to my health it kind of
560s	vanishes or I play pee2 at launch yeah
563s	mer store update I asked
566s	again I did ask again uh and there's a
569s	everyone every time I ask I got someone
571s	new and it's always like yeah I really
573s	want one too so there's like there's
574s	lots of interest for it I know I know
575s	people are working on it uh I don't have
577s	any details on when when next update q1
581s	2025 so that is somewhere between the
583s	start of January and the end of
587s	March I can't be agreeing with Aaron
589s	like that sorry my bad you said that
592s	there are updates to the Lich Mastery if
594s	I remember correctly any chance we might
596s	see some of those tonight no the um Lich
599s	is the updates we're doing for L are
601s	pretty Minor by comparison to a lot of
602s	the other things we're doing um one of
605s	the things that was poised for Lich is
608s	teetering on a knife edge right now if
609s	it's going to make it or not what I
611s	meant was there was someone who wanted
612s	to do a supporter unique for for
615s	Lich and um they wanted to wait until
620s	the uh the thing that is like maybe or
624s	maybe not coming to be released first
626s	before they made their unique cuz they
628s	were basically they pitched their unique
630s	and I'm like and we're like that's kind
632s	of the thing we're adding already so
635s	maybe wait and build off that and
638s	they've been around forever so um they
641s	had no problem with
643s	that uh all right losing a 3 LP slam is
646s	the worst feeling in El IMO any plans to
648s	address this issue in the next update
650s	yes
652s	um I don't think we want to make it
654s	impossible to
656s	fail um but I do think having ways to
660s	affect it um is really positive and I
665s	think we can make it to the point where
667s	maybe you have to invest like if you're
668s	like this is a really important one I
669s	want to invest a little bit more into it
671s	and improve the odds um there's there
674s	there should be ways to do that where
675s	it's uh where it feels good to do and
678s	it's
683s	yeah cuz yeah it's one of those few
685s	moments that you feel like you're
685s	actually going backwards which is really
687s	unfortunate
694s	I remember
701s	you is the void is all that is
706s	left
707s	yeah we go can we just DPS through it we
710s	can just DPS through
713s	it the boy will take you we'd like to
716s	see
721s	all
723s	right uh General Game Dev question when
727s	you see a neat system in another game do
728s	you try to find your own spin on it for
731s	your game um I try really hard to
734s	separate myself the player from myself
736s	the designer when I'm playing other
738s	games
740s	um and I try really hard to just enjoy
743s	them uh my wife sometimes gets a little
744s	frustrated with me when I'm like
746s	commenting on like the oh this system is
748s	really welld designed and like oh you
750s	see what they did there that was sneaky
752s	it caused you to do this and she's like
753s	I don't I don't care at all Mike I just
754s	want to play the game I'm like yeah fine
756s	fair enough um so I try really hard to
758s	separate myself uh and just play enjoy
760s	games and then when I when I'm in a
762s	designing head space and I'm like okay
764s	I'm going to design something I'll I'll
765s	frequently like think about other games
768s	I've played and things like that but it
769s	won't be
772s	um uh yeah's do actually I I I don't I
776s	try really hard not to like start
779s	designing something for last Epoch from
782s	the standpoint of hey this worked really
784s	well in that other game let's try and
785s	Pull It in like that I think is often a
790s	doomed place to start um not always
793s	sometimes it works really well but um I
796s	think there's there's a lot of room for
797s	that to go bad cuz sometimes sometimes
800s	you don't understand the motivation
801s	behind why they were implementing that
803s	thing um and sometimes it's reliant on
807s	another system or it's solving a problem
809s	you're game doesn't even have and just
811s	like adding more complexity without
812s	adding depth can not always be a
814s	positive thing so
817s	um yeah I I
820s	think I I try not
822s	to in
826s	general I left feedback on the warrior
829s	class and said the traveler chronicler
831s	can't be implemented but that never
832s	stopped me from posting a good idea ah I
833s	see what you're saying yeah yeah the I I
836s	didn't give I remember this I didn't
837s	give any details on why I was like the
838s	chronicle doesn't really work
844s	um I think the the core thing is it
847s	needs to
849s	have some grounding in a a like a a
855s	player fantasy that exists in the the
859s	like the the world of gaming in general
862s	kind of already and if it doesn't have
864s	that it it's tough to have a class
867s	attract people initially so um what I'm
869s	talking about
871s	Necromancer is the most played Mastery
873s	we have but it always is it doesn't
875s	matter if like some other classes had a
877s	big update Necromancer always wins um
880s	and there's a the the Warlock run master
884s	that update um those two actually were a
886s	little bit better but Necromancer was
887s	like a very very close third and it's
890s	it's one of those things where it's like
891s	it's just so popular because it's so
894s	good and it's so it's so ingrained in
897s	people's um ideas of what's exciting
900s	what's fun for
901s	them uh that that people just people
903s	just love that one um and so I I think
907s	without having a I think the chronicle
909s	class one of the big problems with it is
910s	that it doesn't have a strong um fantasy
912s	footing existing elsewhere already where
914s	you can't see like okay I'm going to be
916s	this thing it's kind of hard to decide
917s	what that thing
921s	is it's lacking an identity there we go
924s	that's the clear way to say it
930s	sometimes I just got to talk things out
933s	sorry uh we talk a lot about new stuff
935s	what about Nerfs uh what's on the teams
937s	Raider for the Nerf Hammer um I mean
940s	there's a few things I I don't want to
942s	speak too specifically because um I
945s	could get something a little bit wrong
947s	and I also could miss things as well um
949s	so I'm definitely this is far from an
951s	exhaustive list I will not I will not
953s	even attempt to uh to do that the I
957s	think there's a few really obvious
958s	targets are things that are just like uh
960s	they're they're overtuned and it's
962s	really obvious but it doesn't
963s	necessarily mean like the entire class
966s	fantasy is get why is this so much
967s	harder I just realized because I clicked
969s	him powered um got to be on your toes
973s	Mike
976s	the
980s	um not die
983s	here uh there's okay what's what's an
985s	example something that's obviously
986s	really incredibly powerful um the war
988s	generation from the frostclaw
992s	tree um it's it's it's a lot for putting
995s	some skill points in and I think that
997s	there's I think it would be better like
999s	it's still good that there's a very high
1001s	War generation possible in that type of
1003s	game play um but it probably kicks in a
1005s	little too early mostly because there's
1008s	uh because it is purely in the skill
1010s	tree so I think we likely be nerfing
1013s	that a little bit but then looking for a
1015s	way to to maybe itemize that process a
1017s	little bit um so it's something that can
1019s	be incorporated into your build a little
1020s	bit later on
1028s	um that that style of thing I think
1031s	would be would be something to keep an
1032s	eye on um I don't know if that's
1033s	actually specifically happening or
1037s	not I've been kind of in my own world a
1039s	little
1042s	bit uh working on a working on a project
1045s	that you won't see for a long time
1052s	it was a horrible tease to say I'm
1056s	sorry just because it's not coming in
1058s	this patch it's for a future patch
1060s	that's
1067s	all was trying to get close
1070s	enough oh my
1076s	goodness I I do not do enough damage for
1079s	this this is
1081s	crazy I don't want to death death seal
1083s	myself in human form uh cuz I will just
1091s	pop I think this one was targeted at me
1094s	I will answer it I will I always
1095s	wondered how is the philosophy on
1097s	creating
1099s	mechanics uh skills content do you come
1102s	up with something that is in another
1103s	arpg and then just throw it out or do
1106s	you keep it and expand on it um I I
1109s	think because we are far enough along in
1112s	development like it's it's a it is a
1115s	full wow I just got popped right out
1116s	immediately H this is this is going to
1118s	be bad um I think because we're far
1121s	enough like we we're in a complete Game
1123s	situation we're in like post launch and
1126s	update scenario um we really have to
1129s	look
1130s	at um sort of like how do we increase
1133s	the fun how do we make the game more
1134s	engaging how do we make how do we remove
1137s	uh things that are you know breaking up
1139s	the flow too much things that are
1141s	getting in people's way from like doing
1143s	what they want to do and enjoy the game
1145s	really um I think it's really rarely
1149s	comes from a place of this is I was
1150s	talking about earlier rarely comes from
1151s	a place of like what does that game do
1153s	how can we add it to our game
1156s	um you know and not just from the like
1159s	is that morally right type uh or or even
1161s	legally okay um standpoint as well just
1165s	from the like I I don't think it's the
1166s	most effective way to get new high
1168s	quality
1169s	content for the game
1172s	really oh this was a big one that uh so
1175s	I think Fe feedback here's a here's a
1177s	good place to start this here awesome
1180s	segue thanks game high
1182s	five uh all
1185s	right and um we are running
1191s	away
1193s	um feedback feedback is a a huge part
1196s	that we uh that we will We frequent
1199s	start a design process like start a
1201s	project from like a feedback standpoint
1203s	so um the boss Ward system so when you
1206s	when you fight a boss there's there's
1208s	like health bar at the top I don't have
1209s	anything that's going to trigger it no
1212s	the health bar at the top and you like
1213s	the little Pips that say like okay at
1214s	this break point you're going to get a w
1215s	bar at this breakpoint you're going to
1216s	get a w bar um so that system is is a a
1220s	very long form evolution of feedback
1222s	iteration that we've been doing
1225s	um there was a completely invisible
1227s	system we didn't even tell anyone about
1229s	right at the very start that didn't last
1230s	very long at all uh and then there was a
1234s	um a system where as you dealt damage to
1238s	it uh bosses got more defenses and as
1242s	you didn't do damage to it they they
1243s	lost defenses and that uh that had that
1246s	normalization effect but it was too
1247s	hidden and it caused people to be like
1249s	where did all my damage go and no one
1251s	liked it so we replaced it with the boss
1253s	board system um this just a bit of
1255s	History here and segueing into a little
1257s	something that was released in the
1259s	monthly if you haven't read that yet um
1261s	so the boss word system I think is a
1263s	huge improvement over the boss Dr system
1266s	but it's not perfect and it's kind of
1268s	unnecessary in a lot of situations so
1271s	what we're doing is we are focusing that
1274s	system only where it's really needed and
1277s	tweaking a bunch of the numbers so it
1278s	feels a lot better what this will do is
1280s	it will cause a larger um well it it'll
1283s	mean that you won't see it anywhere near
1285s	as much you'll see it rarely instead of
1289s	ing it you'll be like oh this is a big
1290s	when you see it you'll know this is a
1292s	big boss fight a major like a chapter
1295s	boss or a um a timeline boss like you'll
1298s	know this is a big deal boss because it
1299s	has a boss board or if it's really
1302s	really really thematically appropriate
1304s	and super like there's some other
1305s	mechanical reason it's there um there
1307s	aren't any of those yet but we're
1309s	leaving the door open for that to be a
1311s	possibility um the oh no
1316s	Avalanche uh
1319s	this guy needs to die got him uh so the
1323s	boss board system is going to show up in
1324s	way fewer places like it won't show up
1325s	on exiled Mages anymore which you're
1327s	going to see it here in just a second um
1330s	if I can get that far down my goodness
1332s	it is just going to bop me oh yeah tried
1336s	to use a health potion through that
1337s	didn't work
1341s	um we might not be good enough for this
1343s	I
1346s	think um
1349s	see yeah you're going to see boss W
1350s	system show up in far fewer places uh
1353s	when it does show up it's going to make
1354s	a lot more sense uh and also the the
1356s	ward is going to Decay faster
1359s	um which means you'll start to uh build
1364s	builds that aren't really chewing
1365s	through that Ward themselves are going
1368s	to see a big difference in Kill speed
1369s	time basically if you're on the lower
1372s	power characters you you're going to
1374s	you're going to be like oh bosses just
1375s	got a lot less Health um but if you're a
1379s	high power like a super high power
1380s	character you're not going to notice a
1381s	ton of
1382s	difference um which I think is fine cuz
1384s	I don't think that the system was really
1386s	a big problem for really high powered
1389s	characters um at least that was the
1391s	feedback we've been
1394s	getting uh so I am interested to know
1396s	what you guys think about this uh uh
1399s	this this upcoming change in general and
1402s	um we'll be looking at feedback more
1404s	after it's hard it's hard to give
1405s	feedback on a system when you're like uh
1408s	when you when you just know
1409s	theoretically what it is and not what it
1410s	actually does yet and oh my God this
1412s	combination of shrines is
1418s	unreal that was great for a second let's
1421s	see if we can do it with the shrine
1442s	wow we actually did
1448s	it
1455s	sweet wow are you losing weight I am
1457s	thank you it it feels fantastic that
1459s	gets asked basically every stream now
1461s	and it's
1463s	uh
1464s	yeah thank you
1474s	[Music]
1475s	uh oh what's your take
1478s	on Rod Ferguson saying when he said
1480s	about args being called Diablo likes uh
1484s	do you think it was a little salty I
1486s	mean I I I don't we've been marketing
1490s	this game and uh like how do I say this
1494s	whenever I tell people like about about
1496s	my game it's it's a little bit of a
1497s	niche genre I think I think RPGs are
1501s	it's a sub genre of a sub genre and it's
1503s	not like a super duper
1507s	um like well-known genre in I'd say the
1510s	modern era of gaming for for people that
1512s	like are maybe like used to play games
1515s	or just like very casual gamers that
1517s	sort of thing um but a lot of people a
1520s	lot of people know Diablo from when they
1522s	were
1524s	kids um and
1527s	so like I personally anyways I guess
1530s	this is just showing my age is that when
1532s	I tell people like my friends and family
1534s	and and stuff about or like I meet
1535s	someone uh at a bar is like oh you're so
1537s	and so's husband or I'm so and so's dad
1539s	or or whatever and like I described the
1541s	game I'm like it's like have you ever
1542s	played Diablo that's kind of the first
1544s	thing I ask people it's a lot like that
1547s	um I just said Diablo like accidentally
1550s	so you know it's I see where he's coming
1552s	from like it is a very uh culturally
1556s	ingrained way to talk about uh the the
1559s	the genre and I I think it's like
1565s	there's it it's being kind of an
1567s	alternate name for the genre for a long
1568s	time
1571s	anyways I I heard it I'm like isn't that
1574s	just something people call the genre
1576s	already why is this a
1579s	problem that's my feeling on it
1592s	I guess I don't have any strong feelings
1594s	about it one way or another but I see
1596s	where he's coming from and I see why
1597s	people are kind of like Grumble Grumble
1598s	Grumble
1602s	so that is too
1608s	much I did one we did two actually Yay
1612s	two empowered models down woohoo
1615s	worthless anyway
1620s	be looking if I'm finding
1622s	anything might actually be
1624s	useful health regen slap it on with this
1631s	yeah uh who are you and what have you
1634s	done with Mike hi I'm
1638s	Mike I left
1641s	like a third of me over
1647s	there hello Mike uh have you ever
1649s	thought of doing a free online play
1651s	weekend uh Trail as a marketing strategy
1654s	to attract new players I think we've
1656s	already done that before once and I I
1657s	think it's come up as an option again
1658s	I'm
1659s	not really at the Forefront of the
1661s	marketing strategy conversations um at
1664s	all so I don't know what's coming but uh
1667s	I know it's something we've either we I
1669s	think we've done before and I know we've
1670s	talked about doing again so it's
1673s	possible uh interested of Le but afraid
1676s	they may not like it and have little
1678s	money to RI
1679s	I suggest offline so ideally a weekend
1682s	surge of players won't crash the servers
1684s	um I mean the weekend surge would have
1686s	to be pretty astronomical to to Really
1687s	mess the servers up these days but
1691s	uh yeah I I I don't see why not um but
1695s	I'm not in a position to make a an
1697s	official statement on the that
1702s	French so I like the
1707s	idea going to fill up are oh no I put
1710s	that away
1712s	somewhere oh well we'll deal with it
1714s	later we we've changed a bunch of the UI
1717s	in the inventory uh and so like buttons
1720s	are either gone or aren't where they
1723s	were before and there's like there's
1725s	stuff's moved and and it's like I keep
1727s	I've been playing on the new UI for the
1729s	inventory client it's not a huge change
1730s	but it's like just enough that I'm like
1732s	clicking in the wrong spot a whole bunch
1740s	which is something that we mentioned I
1741s	think already in the monthly as well is
1744s	that there's uh now tabs for your
1747s	inventory and different categories of
1748s	things can go in different tabs
1752s	uh and and it'll clean up the picking up
1755s	process for a lot of
1756s	stuff that people will be very happy
1759s	about oh let's let's do a little teaser
1761s	let's do a little teaser we've been
1762s	going for a little while long half hour
1763s	that's plenty of time to do one
1766s	right boom here's a little void knife
1769s	uh passive tree
1773s	teero necro is the most played class
1775s	because you guys do it so well thank you
1777s	even the non- Summoner builds are so
1778s	much fun
1782s	yeah uh with season 2 will there be
1784s	changes small and big ones for every
1786s	class yes are there a few that will stay
1788s	totally untouch no um if you can say
1791s	anything to that of course yeah there's
1793s	um I mean so you're going to see the
1794s	biggest changes
1796s	on um I would say
1800s	uh Sentinel as that'll have the biggest
1802s	changes across all all three masteries
1804s	are getting a bunch a bunch of touches
1806s	um there's one rework skill there that
1808s	was it's volatile reversal which we've
1810s	been talking about for a while now which
1811s	which was you take volatile reversal in
1813s	almost every single build because it had
1816s	such a humongous damage output even if
1818s	the functionality was brutal for your
1820s	build and play style and you you just as
1821s	a person didn't like it it was so
1823s	powerful that you kind of had to take it
1826s	um which which is just like it removes
1828s	it's you know picking four skills
1829s	instead of five so like the creativity
1831s	in build crafting diminishes a whole
1833s	bunch um and for a lot of people it
1835s	wasn't a play style they enjoyed so we
1836s	wanted to pull that out while still
1838s	having it be a viable and fun and
1840s	Powerful option for people who do like
1841s	it um and so there's going to be there
1844s	that that skill got reworked um base
1846s	functionality tree everything we've been
1848s	teasing nodes on that like crazy and
1852s	um there's a whole bunch because of that
1854s	there's a whole bunch of stuff around it
1856s	that had to get adjusted to because a
1858s	lot of stuff had to get buffed because
1859s	it was all being propped up by volatile
1861s	reversal um so yeah there's a lot
1863s	there's a lot of changes in uh Sentinel
1866s	in general um and that's a lot of the
1868s	teasers we've seen uh for the last
1870s	couple bit little bit has been on that
1871s	because that's what we've been working
1872s	on so much lately um but yeah there's
1875s	there's there's stuff all over the place
1876s	um and that comes from something as
1878s	simple as like a new unique item can
1879s	shake up an entire class and um I think
1883s	we'll see that in a couple places
1884s	there's like there's a new skill for
1886s	another class coming um that's going to
1888s	be so nice uh just kind of like
1891s	Revitalize a uh a Mastery
1895s	that's uh hasn't seen much in the way of
1898s	changes in total ever
1900s	really
1908s	um we still take crits like crazy don't
1911s	we yeah we
1913s	do uh that's a big problem we can't we
1915s	can't really afford to go into one where
1916s	they get crit bonuses even though I want
1918s	that
1919s	experience we apply Mark for death to
1921s	ourselves
1925s	so well even if you pick up a few skills
1927s	or ideas from the chronicler I will be
1930s	more than happy I just wanted to share
1931s	yeah I I love I love reading these class
1933s	things and I know I frequently don't
1935s	reply to long long posts like that but I
1937s	do read them
1941s	all thanks again I don't know what
1944s	you're talking about
1950s	yeah caught it I I caught it myself
1951s	without any help uh
1954s	y uh well even you answer that I love
1958s	the inclusion of the loot lizard I'm
1960s	curious how you guys decided on that
1961s	choice of animal and creature
1964s	um you know
1966s	sometimes uh sometimes the convenient
1969s	option is the best
1971s	option when when you're um when you
1975s	don't have a ton of resources to build
1977s	something you work with what you have
1982s	um and it was
1985s	the it it was just like the we looked at
1987s	what we had available and it was just
1989s	the most absolute obvious choice and we
1991s	kind of just went with it cuz it was um
1994s	like the name works
1996s	great uh we we had variants already
1999s	prepared of it like it it was so
2002s	obviously the right choice that we
2003s	didn't really spend much time thinking
2004s	about it um I think it was like it was
2008s	it was it's even one of those systems
2009s	that wasn't even planned really and
2012s	someone uh was was just like I I could
2016s	slip that in and what do we have that's
2018s	what we have and just uh the first
2021s	version came very
2023s	quickly on the heels of deciding to even
2025s	do something I
2034s	think and so
2041s	it pushed it it pushed
2044s	it
2048s	um yeah I think it was and it's it every
2051s	every St on we like okay we like after
2053s	the first version do we change this do
2054s	we update it no it's great let's just
2056s	keep going you know I think that's kind
2058s	of what what it was uh to follow up on a
2060s	free weekend hopefully you could get it
2063s	as a steam Weekend Deal so Le be on the
2065s	front page and gain interest uh in those
2067s	who don't know all about Ellie at all
2070s	yeah um there's a lot of stuff that does
2073s	that and I feel like we'll be trying to
2075s	push it back into a situation like that
2077s	if possible
2079s	um but yes we would do it through Steam
2082s	that's that's definitely that's way we
2084s	did it last time I'm pretty
2089s	sure enemies en rage at half Health sure
2093s	go
2094s	wrong uh for new season what will be
2097s	added to endgame we have haven't really
2098s	talked
2099s	about um we haven't really talked about
2102s	specifics on what's coming next season
2104s	for for endgame so I can't really talk
2106s	about it much um just cuz
2109s	it's uh I'd be spoiling a humongous
2112s	portion oh that hurt I just got B I'm
2115s	not going to survive this
2123s	um oh my gosh this is this is too much
2127s	Danger for me we're gonna we're gonna
2131s	we're going to go do something else cuz
2132s	it's no fun just getting your ass handed
2133s	to
2134s	you um what can we roll a better version
2139s	of is this show roll ranges there is
2141s	roll
2142s	ranges at least we can improve that
2147s	okay
2154s	nope uh but but endgame is getting a
2157s	very substantial
2159s	update um this is something that we
2163s	know it's it's the the system that we're
2166s	uh releasing for endgame is kind of the
2168s	the reason why uh season 2 got delayed
2170s	so much cuz we were planning on uh
2173s	having a smaller version of this for 1.3
2176s	originally um and from all the feedback
2178s	we got from 1.1 people were kind of like
2181s	that's not going to be good enough
2183s	basically um and
2188s	we really wanted to have a a big update
2191s	to endgame to to come and kind of
2194s	Breathe new life into the the the the
2197s	moment to moment decision making but
2198s	also the like meta decision making for
2201s	endgame cuz right now it's there's not a
2203s	lot
2204s	of uh there's not a lot of meta decision
2206s	making to make in endgame right now at
2209s	all basically there's like your your
2211s	endgame meta decision- making is do I go
2214s	down this path or this path that's
2216s	that's basically it
2218s	right now
2221s	um and there's there's there's like the
2223s	little things of like when you're on the
2224s	timeline web like oh do I do I go down
2226s	this side of the tree on that side of
2227s	the web like when you're in a specific
2228s	timeline Echo web
2231s	and like that's I I think that is less
2235s	there's less
2237s	like I don't know it feels like there's
2240s	less impactful decisions that you're
2242s	making
2243s	there um because you're just making like
2245s	the next decision you're not you're not
2247s	there's no reason to like think ahead
2248s	very much there's like little things
2250s	here and there but it's it's really
2251s	subtle and it doesn't feel very specific
2254s	um and there's a few things we added
2255s	with this with the
2257s	um uh with the faction system the item
2260s	faction system when we added in um like
2263s	Circle Fortune has a few things with
2264s	like lenses that you can do and like um
2267s	making some decisions on like what type
2268s	of content you're going to do thinking
2269s	you have that way so like there's like
2270s	some hints of it there a little bit but
2273s	it's still not really fully flashed out
2275s	and like and and once again there's a
2277s	little bit of a gain with the Forgotten
2278s	kns where you have to like um pick the
2280s	order that you do this in so you're not
2282s	leaving like really hard ones to the
2283s	very end and like you know things like
2285s	that so there's there's there's
2287s	some things that
2290s	are kind of hinting at that style of
2292s	stuff but there's not really any big
2294s	decisions and there's also just not
2295s	enough variety of
2297s	activities um so we don't we don't have
2300s	like we've only got a handful of
2301s	activities we've got um three different
2303s	dungeons which are arguably the same
2305s	thing but I think I'd call them
2306s	different activities um but they're very
2308s	similar um the big problem with that is
2311s	counting them even in this category is
2313s	that they you usually do them to get the
2315s	specific rewards they have that you
2317s	don't generally want to farm over and
2318s	over again um and then you have the
2321s	arena which is not really fantastic for
2325s	experience or loot for the most part um
2328s	and so you're kind of left with the
2329s	monolith as as you're almost exclusive
2332s	like endgame system to like interact
2334s	with that's like the backbone of the
2335s	whole endgame system and so like
2339s	the the the number of different Echo
2343s	types that are in the in the monolith as
2344s	well is a little thin so I think these
2346s	are like these are all categories we're
2348s	targeting for improvements in the end
2351s	game and like so adding more activities
2353s	improving the activities that are there
2355s	giving you giving you some meta
2356s	decisions to work on and and I think
2359s	it's all going to come together to have
2360s	just a much better endgame experience in
2362s	general one that where you feel like
2364s	you're affecting your endgame experience
2366s	and you're making decisions that are
2367s	changing your activity I and your like
2369s	these are all important things that
2371s	we're trying to incorporate into the
2372s	endgame um systems that I think other
2374s	games that have been around for a lot
2376s	longer do really well
2379s	um and I think
2382s	that players having those experiences in
2384s	those other games is making it really
2386s	clear what we're missing in these
2388s	categories and they're telling us and so
2390s	this is like this is another one of the
2392s	things of like taking feedback and
2393s	putting into action so we are um we we
2396s	get a lot of that feedback and we are
2397s	are uh implementing
2400s	it which is why this is why we pivoted
2402s	pretty hard on what 1.2 was originally
2404s	going to be
2407s	um and why I think it's why I got
2410s	delayed and why it's going to be I think
2411s	so much so much more
2419s	fun but there was some tech we part part
2421s	of the reason we had
2424s	um excuse me picked this update to be
2428s	picked the endgame update to be 1.3
2430s	originally was because of the time of of
2432s	certain pieces of tech that we had to
2434s	develop to make functional for uh those
2437s	new systems to even
2439s	work and we thought we could uh we
2443s	thought we could do a more campaign
2445s	Focus
2446s	1.2 uh to begin
2450s	with I guess to buy time for those
2452s	ingame systems but I don't think it
2453s	would have gone over well
2459s	dang
2462s	it that's a spicy
2479s	meatball okay has not super comfy
2494s	all right more
2501s	questions I guess I I I I just realized
2504s	I spoke kind of negatively for a little
2506s	while there but I just want to uh let
2508s	everyone know that I am unbelievably
2510s	excited for what endgame is going to
2511s	changes are going to come in 1.3 and I
2513s	think it's uh I would love to be able to
2516s	be more EXP explicitly spoilery about
2520s	it forgot those go away when you walk in
2523s	dang
2525s	it but you know what for listening to my
2529s	rambling I present another node this is
2532s	a paladin
2535s	node oh we're going to save that one
2537s	here's a here's here's something else
2538s	instead yeah this is cool we we'll split
2540s	the nodes
2541s	up here's a thing oh what could that
2544s	thing be it's a big thing
2549s	all right hello maybe not popular
2551s	opinion loot lizards when you find one
2553s	it should be like woo lizard uh but when
2556s	you have multiple lizards during the
2557s	echo it's like oh no another one can you
2560s	make them more special moment and be
2561s	actually happy to see them we are so
2562s	that's one of the things we are doing we
2563s	are um we we we did made this adjustment
2566s	a little bit I think we're making it a
2567s	little bit more as well which is just
2569s	like making them um drop a little bit
2571s	higher quality Loot and a little bit
2572s	less of it
2575s	um so they'll drop like rarer sh shards
2577s	but less shards and they'll drop rare
2579s	items but less items and like so just
2581s	turning up that uh quality and qu
2584s	quality up quantity down just a touch on
2586s	them I I think will have a big impact on
2587s	that CU I think you'll more frequently
2588s	find especially with loot filters so
2590s	strict uh you'll find things that you're
2591s	actually wanting to pick up more um and
2594s	be more excited about
2597s	them hi really love the game and I've
2600s	got a minion question currently they
2601s	always run behind the player uh and what
2604s	do you think about being able to
2605s	position them to always run in front
2608s	or split range for front and uh uh split
2611s	range for back and melee front uh and is
2614s	this something that's been discussed
2615s	before sorry it's been asked before yeah
2616s	it's fine uh you don't have to apologize
2618s	for asking questions um it's a good
2620s	question it has been asked many times
2621s	before it's less of a uh don't want to
2624s	and and not really sure how to uh
2628s	it's
2630s	it having the minions be smart enough to
2634s	know which direction is forward um in
2638s	the grand scheme of things is really
2639s	tough so like if you're if you're
2641s	advancing toward you're advancing
2643s	forward towards enemies and then you're
2645s	like oh I moved forward a little bit too
2646s	far and you turn around and go
2649s	backwards having it be able to recognize
2652s	that you're just retreating a little bit
2653s	and not actually setting a new forward
2655s	Direction cuz you literally have set a
2657s	new forward Direction um causes so many
2660s	problems um I think we are we we've been
2664s	talking about minion stances as as an
2666s	idea for years now
2668s	um and I still haven't given up on it
2669s	I'd really like to see them be more of a
2672s	um just like an aggressiveness stance
2676s	and and and have them be a little bit
2678s	more like be able to tell certain minion
2680s	types to be more aggressive and I'd like
2681s	to see that set in uh in here so like
2685s	you come in here and you you'd have like
2686s	your summon skeleton tree and you'd have
2687s	like a little like thing that's just
2689s	like passive defensive and offensive and
2692s	you just like set the minion type right
2694s	there that's what I'd like to see I
2695s	think um I have open to the one skill
2698s	tree that actually has the most issues
2701s	with that um because there are different
2703s	types there's melean ranged minions in
2705s	here so we may have to have like
2706s	multiple inputs there it's like the this
2708s	minion and it would show you which
2709s	minions are enabled or something like
2710s	that like that's a lot of work to do
2712s	that for every minion in the game but um
2714s	I think it would be really positive
2722s	overall uh are you guys going to remove
2725s	that pesky transfer correct materials
2726s	button from the ventory menu in season
2728s	1.2 or you possibly rework how mats get
2731s	sent to your stash
2734s	um I I don't have any specifics to share
2737s	on this category yet but it is
2739s	definitely being talked about right now
2742s	um I I don't think the button is
2744s	completely going
2748s	away I think I'm allowed to say
2751s	that uh last def F like in a few years
2755s	we got it
2757s	no I uh I
2761s	I think like in a few
2767s	months we're November right
2769s	now did I say it's the the wrong
2774s	year uh all right no question just
2777s	wanted to say you're looking great
2778s	thanks
2788s	yeah thanks
2792s	kanee what I was talking about with the
2795s	uh minions here when I had the UI open
2797s	behind that image was having uh
2800s	something
2801s	here to say like passive offensive
2804s	defensive or something like that or
2805s	maybe up here you know like somewhere on
2807s	the skill Tre is where I'd put
2809s	it I have I I'm so bad at that I'm so
2812s	sorry
2819s	all
2834s	right uh all
2836s	right uh the job listing for your game
2839s	play or add the job listing for your
2840s	gameplay development lead isn't that
2842s	your role if so are you moving up or on
2846s	um that is not my role actually um I am
2850s	so I I technically do have a new role
2854s	um although although my I I have a new
2857s	title uh but my responsibilities have
2859s	not changed whatsoever yet
2864s	um so I'm I'm moving more towards the
2867s	design team side of things than the
2869s	development team so I've been kind of
2871s	straddling design and development for
2872s	years now um and I've been I've been uh
2877s	Le meaning I've been I've been a
2879s	developer that does design work and I'm
2881s	switching to be a designer that does
2882s	development
2887s	work um so kind of but yes that the I
2890s	technically was never the lead uh lead
2892s	gameplay developer
2894s	either
2901s	um but those positions uh that we do
2904s	have posted right now you would be
2905s	working very closely with me cuz it
2907s	would be a lot of skill stuff that
2910s	um basically I'd be spending more time
2912s	designing and handing stuff to you for
2915s	implementation rather than designing and
2918s	then implementing it myself as well but
2919s	I be doing some implementation stuff
2921s	myself it's that's you know a lot of us
2923s	wear a lot of different hats um I'm
2927s	making my primary hat design instead of
2929s	development stuff I think it's going to
2931s	be a lot of fun it has been a lot of
2934s	fun nothing's really changed for me over
2937s	probably yet will
2939s	not which is fine because I've been
2941s	working on this awesome project that I
2943s	love doing it's been so
2947s	great last year around this time I was
2951s	uh I do stuff I really liked but it was
2954s	I guess early in the years as well it
2956s	was less stuff that I really
2959s	liked like it was half stuff I really
2962s	liked and half stuff I just kind of
2963s	liked and now I've been doing 100% stuff
2966s	that I really like that's been
2981s	awesome hey Mike uh regarding damage
2984s	reduction Dr on bosses uh do you intend
2986s	to keep that in that way currently it
2989s	feels like players are being punished
2991s	for trying to perform better
2994s	um it's oh close here
2999s	so it's it's not about punishment for
3000s	for performing
3002s	better that's that's that is definitely
3004s	not what's what's what's
3005s	happening I can understand how it might
3007s	feel that way death will not take
3013s	me but we're trying to give
3023s	um we're trying to give different builds
3026s	the opportunity to play differently and
3028s	still be
3036s	effective like a straight glass Cannon
3041s	build and a full tank
3049s	build
3050s	um obviously the or let obviously but
3054s	the the glass Cannon build kills bosses
3056s	right now even kill kills bosses way way
3058s	faster way faster it's it's it's
3061s	extremely different um doing more damage
3065s	gets the job
3067s	done
3070s	like here let's let's let's do some
3072s	drwing I love drawing okay so let's say
3076s	you've got uh the time it takes to kill
3078s	a boss oh that's a it's a wonky
3081s	line still bad who cares um so you got
3085s	like youve got the time it takes to kill
3087s	a boss um from start to
3090s	end and this is this is a Pure Health no
3092s	Dr No adaptive anything system um and
3097s	[Music]
3099s	the uh the red line
3103s	is uh glass Cannon and the green line is
3106s	let's say of of a tanky build Crazy
3108s	tanky
3110s	build and so um the goal is the goal I
3116s	think some people think that the goal is
3117s	to do is to do
3125s	this I I think that's what some people
3127s	think the goal is to do and that's the
3129s	way it might seem that's really not what
3130s	the goal is at
3132s	all the the goal is
3135s	to um or or actually that's probably not
3138s	true I think I think what a lot of
3139s	people think the goal is actually to do
3140s	is is is this
3143s	sorry I think this is a feedback we lot
3145s	the goal I think people think the goal
3146s	is this
3147s	where we just want we just want to bring
3149s	the tanks up so they can kill at the
3150s	same speed as people who who Focus DPS
3152s	and that's really not what we want to do
3153s	at
3154s	all um the goal is
3157s	to is to bring the builds is is to bring
3160s	the builds up that are that are maybe
3161s	focusing a little bit more on tank and
3164s	or or maybe just are a little bit less
3165s	focused and aren't being quite as
3166s	successful in in their damaging so to to
3169s	to maybe bring them up so they are
3170s	killing things a little bit
3173s	better I know I've done this backwards
3175s	cuz time and speed we'll just we'll just
3178s	say bet like this direction is
3190s	good oh my God okay I've botched this
3192s	completely we're going to we're going to
3193s	start over
3195s	Okay we're going to start over here we
3197s	go this is
3201s	time time as we go this way so closer to
3205s	the left is good so left is
3209s	good uh so red is full DPS
3215s	DPS
3217s	and the boss W system we want this like
3221s	full DPS build too get a small benefit
3223s	from it and to actually kill things a
3225s	little bit faster so it's great they get
3227s	a little bit of boost to kill things
3229s	faster
3231s	awesome um and then we've got over here
3234s	this is a a tank
3237s	doesn't have a ton of DPS um and we want
3241s	them to to to not
3243s	take an insanely large amount of time so
3246s	we want to bring them this way as well
3247s	but we want to bring them more so we we
3249s	we bring the tank up to here now the the
3251s	DPS the the full DPS build character is
3253s	still killing things way faster the tank
3256s	build just gets more of a boost from the
3258s	system than the DPS build
3260s	does so
3263s	the the distance between
3268s	this is this is the important part here
3269s	is so the distance between this line and
3273s	this
3275s	line is bigger than the distance
3281s	between this line and this
3285s	line okay and this is a mess that I'm
3288s	sorry I hope I'm making some sort of
3291s	sense um so we've this is offset a bit
3295s	but like so this amount
3298s	ount is is the amount that we've
3301s	improved the difference between the two
3304s	we improved depends on how you look at
3306s	we brought them that much closer
3307s	together um so it's just making this a
3310s	little less extreme it's it's making
3312s	this Gap a little less intense and it's
3314s	providing a gameplay mechanic that you
3316s	can see and understand and play with and
3318s	maybe make some decisions around to
3320s	optimize your Gameplay at the same
3322s	time this is a mess H I don't know if I
3325s	like this or not I think I hate it but
3327s	it's fine um the point is is that it's
3331s	not to punish these people here that is
3333s	not the goal at all the goal is to give
3337s	these people a little bit of help little
3340s	little little bit of
3342s	help um and I think the piece that's
3345s	that's missing is that uh the assumption
3347s	that if the ward was gone the health
3349s	would stay the same if the ward was gone
3351s	the health would get a lot bigger the
3352s	ward was gone the health would get a lot
3354s	bigger um and if the ward was gone the
3358s	this this this line here is where the
3360s	DPS people would be and with the ward
3362s	the DPS people are
3365s	here so it is helping everyone kill the
3368s	boss
3370s	faster I think that's the important part
3373s	um it's just helping people that
3375s	are maybe less uh super high power build
3379s	players more
3387s	hope that helps um but like I say we are
3392s	um I just deleted I should have kept it
3395s	oh well um we're trying to make that
3397s	purple line
3399s	longer um by helping them a little bit
3401s	more and um making the whole system like
3406s	making the purple line longer but also
3408s	making the gap between the two red
3409s	vertical lines bigger as well
3412s	um and making it show up in fewer
3414s	situations so you don't see it in many
3416s	boss fights you don't see it when you're
3417s	fighting the the the Exile Mages or you
3420s	know any any of that those
3423s	places
3427s	oh
3440s	whoa this is my first time trying the
3442s	Apple bubbly flavor I do not like apple
3445s	uh flavored bubbly water
3450s	apparently
3457s	woo all right can we get an option sorry
3459s	for that gigantic ramble I'm going to
3461s	answer a bunch of questions quickly
3462s	because that was absurd I apologize uh
3464s	can we get an option to stash tabs to
3467s	allow us to highlight items that we can
3469s	equip for lower level characters I would
3471s	love to I don't think it works right
3474s	now um we've been we've been talking
3477s	about
3479s	uh uh stash search improvements a bunch
3482s	and um the person who will be working on
3484s	those has been working on inventory
3486s	improvements
3489s	um but yeah they're on the
3494s	list I'm curious about dancing strikes
3496s	is it going to see any mechanical
3498s	changes I feel like it being a proper
3500s	channeled skill would make it better at
3501s	least performance- wise uh but I'm
3503s	concerned that Rogues lack support for
3505s	channeled skills at all
3507s	yeah there's not really much I don't
3508s	think I don't think it's going to become
3509s	a channeled ability
3512s	um the way that it works having it end
3516s	uh early doesn't work
3520s	sorry uh we know the new skill uh you
3525s	have so cryptically mentioned is for the
3527s	Lich you might as well tell us what it's
3529s	called it's
3532s	not uh so you can scratch L off the L
3536s	off the list will not take me uh Aaron
3540s	is panicking slow down the teasers
3542s	before he Strokes okay okay okay I'll
3544s	say I'll save I'll save the others for a
3545s	little bit um I'm going to ask the hard
3548s	question no one wanted to ask uh what's
3551s	the deal with this game we've got no
3553s	content for insane long time and now
3555s	it's too late how do you plan to compete
3556s	with pee2 which looks insane um I mean
3559s	1.2 is going to have a ton of awesome
3560s	content um it's I mean yeah the most
3565s	recent patch wasn't huge but there was
3566s	defin stuff there so
3569s	um maybe a little hyperboy but yeah uh
3573s	we're going to release an awesome update
3574s	with tons of great content and it's
3576s	going to be lots of fun I think we
3578s	realized that releasing a
3583s	um like a series of medium cool um
3587s	updates over the course of the year
3588s	would have been probably
3592s	worse so we're going we're going for the
3594s	the big the big one
3597s	we also have to play strategically
3598s	around um like marketing time and
3600s	marketing money and things like that
3606s	um you know cuz we don't have we don't
3608s	have the budget to go for a huge
3610s	marketing spend
3611s	on um you know like four patches every
3614s	year so it's uh like some of them we
3617s	have to like be a little more subtle
3618s	about and I know a lot of people didn't
3619s	even like weren't even aware that we've
3621s	done some of them um because we went
3623s	maybe too subtle on some of the
3625s	marketing for some of them you know
3633s	oh Get
3635s	It Go a close
3640s	one that is too
3648s	much
3651s	uh uh how do you feel other devs using
3655s	the monolith as an inspiration for their
3657s	game you know what I'm talking about I
3658s	know you guys are
3659s	friends um I mean I I don't
3663s	know they've been working on it for a
3665s	long time so it's
3668s	unclear the order that things happened
3670s	in to me still like I know there's
3672s	there's definitely sis like there's
3673s	something I'm going to tease today
3675s	there's there's a te here's a great
3676s	example there's a teaser I'm going to
3677s	show you later
3678s	today um that that you might have a
3682s	feeling of like oh you're just showing
3683s	us this cuz poe2 just announced it too
3686s	um and I swear I had the screenshot
3689s	before the poe2 stream and I didn't show
3691s	it last week because it was it was right
3693s	on the heels of that unveiling and I was
3695s	like this is too close to the unveiling
3696s	so I'm going to save it to next week
3699s	um but yeah it's it stu stuff gets
3702s	developed simultaneously so often
3706s	thatth I think it's I think it's tenuous
3709s	if there actually was any like hey
3711s	that's a good idea let's see if we can
3713s	make our own version of it um and even
3716s	if it was even like hypothetically even
3718s	if it was I think it's great that people
3720s	are are building off of other ideas in
3722s	the genre and are like like I think game
3726s	development should be a lot more um
3729s	openly collaborative than it typically
3730s	is in the world
3733s	um and I'd love to see a a generally
3736s	more free use of techniques and ideas
3739s	amongst uh amongst developers and I I
3741s	know this is like not anything that's my
3744s	under my controll or uh or or I have any
3747s	sort of like authority to say what
3749s	should or shouldn't happen with this
3751s	sort of thing but like um I don't know I
3753s	I like I like a I like a
3756s	collaborative approach to things like
3758s	this let's take a prism wraps in there
3760s	just cuz it's
3766s	fun yeah why not
3770s	[Music]
3779s	next time you will perish that Health
3782s	was just teetering that was
3790s	crazy what what was the the animation
3793s	required to do it is immense and
3798s	uh any any hope of a wasi support is
3800s	still pending a entire animation rework
3803s	for the character
3809s	which is thousands of animations that
3810s	need to be done I know that sounds like
3812s	an exaggeration it's
3813s	not some of them do end up being
3815s	overlapping with each
3817s	other but every single one of them needs
3819s	to be checked uh even if even if one of
3821s	them does work for two it still needs to
3823s	be
3825s	like um like gone through as an
3828s	individual item to make sure it's good
3829s	and make sure it's not an edge case and
3831s	all the sorts of things and usually they
3833s	usually a lot of them apply for like
3837s	two to three situations so it's maybe
3839s	not thousands May it's only ends up
3840s	being actually hundreds of new
3841s	animations that need to be get get
3843s	created
3845s	um and it could still be thousands but
3848s	my my point is it's it's just it's a ton
3849s	of Animation work that we still got to
3850s	do to even consider
3854s	it and it's like it's it's animation
3856s	work that we probably need to do anyways
3858s	but it's a lot of it and it's going to
3860s	take a long
3863s	time and it slows down every other
3865s	animation
3867s	uh Reliant thing in the
3873s	game or or is held up by you know like
3876s	we have to prioritize these
3878s	things your has but even if we like
3881s	stopped all of the animation stuff for
3884s	every other thing that needed it and
3885s	went wholesale into that like it there's
3888s	no way we could get it ready for 1.2
3889s	it's not
3892s	possible unless unless I don't
3894s	understand the system well enough which
3895s	is I don't know
3898s	I think unlikely
3902s	but I am no
3909s	animator uh oh Mike I almost forgot have
3912s	you started working on the orbus
3914s	monolith strategy idea thing that I the
3917s	thing I was rambling about last week as
3919s	a as a what if no we haven't started on
3921s	that I haven't even pitched it
3922s	internally
3926s	I I started making a design dog for it
3935s	though your death has
3941s	come uh I mean p just copied your Echoes
3945s	as a late game mapping so Props for the
3947s	team thanks I mean there's there's lots
3949s	of similarities with with other po
3951s	systems already as well there so like
3953s	ah I I feel like there's
3956s	like there's always the chance that
3958s	someone on on the design team played
3959s	last defac at some point and then just
3961s	like they were in a design meeting and
3962s	someone had a thought they wasn't like I
3964s	don't think there was any I don't think
3966s	anyone actually believes this oh maybe
3968s	some people do I don't I don't believe
3970s	that there was at any point people were
3972s	like what do they have what can we take
3975s	let's figure it out type thing like that
3976s	was I don't think that was the starting
3977s	point for anything they did
3982s	um and and the stuff that is similar is
3986s	very largely just coincidence I
3994s	think cuz like we weren't even the first
3996s	game to do something quite like that
3997s	either you know like there's I'm sure
3999s	there's I I don't have good examples up
4000s	top my head but I'm sure there's other
4001s	games you could find that you're like
4003s	well this is just that with this feature
4005s	added on and this is just that with this
4006s	other feature added on and
4014s	like but I do I'll say this I'll put
4017s	I'll put here's a great way to put it I
4018s	really like the core um style of the
4022s	monolith system and I'm really excited
4024s	to play that in the poe framework as
4027s	well so I think it's going to be
4033s	great uh do you plan to add corruption
4036s	number on mono so we don't need to check
4038s	what corruption we had in specific zones
4041s	I think people I think this is the
4042s	request to put it in here um I really
4045s	like the idea I don't know if it's being
4046s	put in or not yet but I really like
4052s	it uh thanks I just think about minions
4055s	and
4057s	formation yep the bug over there on the
4060s	screen yep uh do you plan to add new
4064s	dungeon MB or more unique Echoes like
4068s	Echo with only lizard and timeline uh
4070s	and limited time yeah I think new types
4073s	of um new types of Echoes I think is a
4076s	really important category of things we
4077s	need to add yeah hey Mike po2 is gone in
4081s	the direction of punishing player hard
4083s	for dying is the team still confident on
4085s	the current decision of no penalty on
4087s	death uh I mean so we do a very limited
4091s	penalty on death there's still death
4093s	penalties in last Epoch they're just
4096s	pretty
4097s	tame
4100s	um I think a lot of
4103s	them if I was making last SE for myself
4107s	only and I wasn't and I didn't have to I
4109s	I use this caveat a lot and I didn't
4110s	have to think about anyone else playing
4112s	the game and it was just for Mike yeah
4114s	the death penalty would be a lot more
4115s	severe I think I think it there would be
4117s	there'd be a a a and you can and I I
4119s	will never I will never pitch either of
4121s	these things to be in last OT cuz I
4122s	don't think they'd actually be good for
4123s	the game but if I was making last eot
4126s	for myself only we would have we
4129s	probably have durability we would
4131s	probably have uh like like your stuff
4134s	would drop on the ground you'd have to
4135s	like go find it again we'd probably have
4137s	like um like Resurrection Town Fe type
4142s	things like like there there'd be all
4143s	sorts of death penalties and and like
4145s	experience loss like I I'm a I really
4148s	like
4149s	having um a high stakes death penalty
4153s	that isn't quite all the way to hardcore
4156s	I like I don't want the character to
4157s	just be done but I want it to be like I
4159s	want there to be significant penalties
4162s	for dying and and it be like it to be
4164s	like I love those Stakes where it's like
4166s	there's like you you're you're going
4167s	along and you get a death and it's like
4168s	it's crushing and like or you you just
4170s	narrowly escape death and it feels
4172s	amazing I love those moments um I don't
4176s	think they're awesome for last Epoch so
4178s	I'm not I'm not I don't ever suggest
4180s	those in design meetings I advocate
4181s	against them in design meetings um but
4184s	personally I do really like those
4185s	heavier death penalties
4191s	myself down stairs
4206s	all right more questions here we go here
4210s	we
4211s	go uh with the update to engine do you
4214s	think we'll finally see the Warlock
4216s	necro be able to raise enemy mobs to
4218s	fight with you no that's not an engine
4221s	issue sorry
4233s	that's a networking stack
4251s	issue yes I'm on it be well on it like a
4255s	carb on
4260s	it let find out the question while that
4262s	comes off cool
4264s	down uh do you think to expand existing
4268s	mechanics MB I don't know what the MB is
4271s	something like oh maybe maybe something
4274s	I got it maybe something like exiled
4275s	Mage map where we can craft unique
4279s	prefixes or maybe I'm learning a dungeon
4283s	with exiled Mage boss at the end and
4284s	some unique way to have something new I
4286s	think you're um you're on the right
4289s	track but I think you're uh I I think
4293s	there's room to be a little bit
4296s	more uh creative with the new things we
4299s	could add to to do these things instead
4300s	of trying to
4301s	reuse um too much I think there's I
4305s	think there's room for new stuff in the
4307s	pipe um to to accomplish what you're
4310s	trying to
4312s	accomplish but yes I like where your
4314s	head's at
4330s	ah give me stormbolt yes
4347s	all
4348s	right there's there's a new mechanic
4350s	that we that we that were adding for 1.2
4352s	and I just thought it was I thought it
4354s	just happened here for a split second
4356s	I'm like wait how is that on
4359s	live but it didn't it was it was just
4361s	something that happened to look kind of
4362s	similar and I was uh it eludes me caught
4366s	me off guard
4378s	okay uh will procedurally gener
4380s	generated areas be in next patch and if
4383s	yes will they affect a effect uh both
4386s	the campaign and the end game or just
4387s	the end game um whoa that was
4389s	close for not looking at my
4393s	screen um we are we are I don't I don't
4396s	know is the answer to this one we are
4398s	actively working on procedural generated
4399s	content I think it's going to make it in
4401s	for 1.3 1.2 sorry um
4406s	uh the majority of zones will not use it
4409s	initially um it's going to be something
4412s	that we eventually leverage for the
4413s	entirety of the game campaign um
4416s	monolith uh dungeons other things too
4419s	that we add in afterwards like like it's
4421s	going to be it's we're designing it as a
4422s	core thing that we're going to use um in
4424s	the game
4426s	and um in initially the implementation
4430s	is going to be very
4431s	narrow um
4435s	and we'll hopefully very quickly expand
4438s	to become
4439s	uh all over the place but not completely
4442s	ubiquitous so we don't we we do still
4444s	want handcrafted levels to exist in the
4445s	game
4450s	um uh there's just there's just so many
4453s	in order to add the volume of things we
4455s	want to add uh so that the game is like
4458s	really exciting and I went into an echo
4461s	uh so so there's like there's enough
4462s	Variety in the game to do the things we
4464s	want to do
4466s	we need procedural generation in the
4468s	game
4478s	um so yeah the PCG systems are
4481s	working
4484s	um they're at least they're they're
4487s	definitely functional right
4489s	now
4493s	um but they're they're early still
4503s	come on worthless
4508s	anyway I what I get for not cleaning up
4510s	the
4514s	mobs that was really
4516s	close my my health just dipped into like
4519s	double legit numbers I think
4537s	okay more questions uh wait a second I
4539s	know I heard you talk about a new Lich
4541s	skill before I even remember you saying
4542s	that it's too good at doing what you're
4544s	supposed to be doing at needs more time
4545s	to balance um yes
4549s	um we did start developing
4553s	one but that's not the one I was just
4555s	talking talking
4562s	about and also I described a class that
4564s	hasn't been touched in a long time let
4565s	has
4566s	had a lot more changes recently
4575s	than all right will the set item rework
4577s	system be in the next patch
4582s	maybe it's it's it's not impossible at
4585s	this
4593s	point uh what kind of improvements are
4595s	you seeing with engine updates I mean a
4596s	lot of it is um a lot of it's under the
4598s	hood stuff that you that won't really be
4600s	obvious at first at all um you know like
4602s	performance things um there's there's
4605s	there's a lot of things that are the
4607s	game just feels better to play um and
4609s	you're kind of like I wonder why that is
4612s	that's why
4620s	much stuff that's not supposed to be
4621s	there but the tab for it is probably
4629s	full yeah that's the nice one to shatter
4633s	her uh hey what wasy please I did touch
4636s	on this earlier in the Stream but I'll
4637s	mention it again um there's a ton of
4643s	um wasdi and twin stick is the same
4646s	thing really it's the same thing holding
4647s	them back is uh a ton of Animation work
4649s	that needs to be done really it's just
4650s	there's just so much animation updates
4652s	that needs to be done before either of
4653s	those work
4656s	um so we're working on those long it
4659s	it's a way quite a ways out though
4660s	before like and it's it's Lo it's not
4663s	really even I don't want to say like
4665s	it's coming or anything like that cuz um
4667s	it's animation stuff that has to be done
4670s	um before we can even really decide if
4671s	we want
4672s	to before it can be put in really
4679s	I hope we do though I don't really see
4681s	why we wouldn't at this point either
4686s	come but it is a big deal so it's like
4689s	adding a new control scheme
4691s	is okay I I I do actually did think of a
4695s	reason why we wouldn't it's because of
4696s	the huge updates we doing the controller
4698s	control updates right now which which
4699s	may actually help it I don't know yet
4701s	but um so we are we're doing a big
4705s	update to how controllers Target um
4707s	which is it's so nice it's like I was I
4710s	was playing on stream uh with controller
4714s	and then we just had like an early
4715s	version of the targeting update come
4716s	through to um uh through to like our our
4720s	internal gameplay
4722s	testing and so I've been I played a
4724s	controller test on stream a couple weeks
4727s	back um or a live version of the
4729s	controller build and I was like I was
4731s	having a little bit of a problem with a
4732s	couple skills and how they worked um and
4734s	so I load up the same character on the
4736s	new controller updates for it it's so
4739s	much
4740s	nicer like all my complaints were just
4742s	gone right away I was so
4746s	happy that's
4752s	interesting um so yeah I think there's
4755s	going to be some great stuff there it's
4756s	basically um a skill specific targeting
4759s	paradigms for a controller and it's it's
4762s	not even just skill specific it's um
4764s	specialization specific So like um
4767s	what's a good example uh
4771s	the
4773s	uh smoke bomb smoke bomb a good one uh
4778s	shurikens yeah shurikens is a good one
4780s	when shurikens um is set to backflip
4784s	mode
4787s	um do shurikens have a front flip mode
4789s	as well there there's one that has like
4790s	a back flip mode and a front flip mode I
4791s	think it's shurikens um maybe smoke bomb
4796s	anyways it doesn't really matter there's
4797s	so like it targets differently if you've
4800s	taken the uh back flip Nob not the front
4803s	flip node and then it like changes
4804s	targeting a game if you're taking the
4805s	front flip node um and it like it it
4808s	just it it just it just feels you're
4810s	like yes obviously that's what I wanted
4812s	to do and I think that um anyone who's
4816s	maybe hasn't played with an ability that
4817s	was suffering from situations of
4819s	problems like that won't uh won't really
4822s	notice much um but anyone playing the I
4828s	don't know one of a 100 abilities that
4829s	suffers from it will will absolutely
4831s	love
4849s	it also triggered abilities oh triggered
4852s	abilities feels so much better on it now
4853s	too
4856s	cuz you see people like like triggering
4857s	like a a fireball Trigger or something
4859s	like that and it just like goes flying
4860s	off in whatever Direction you're facing
4862s	not at the thing that you hit and you're
4865s	just like come
4869s	on or if You' played
4877s	um yeah it just it just works so much
4879s	better
4881s	now all right if l61 was a pet what kind
4884s	of pet would it be void necrotic visual
4887s	themed um we we someone came up with
4890s	this it was like someone has someone has
4892s	like an actual answer for this I can't
4893s	remember what it
4900s	was I think it be void though need fall
4903s	into the void oh unique one do we do we
4906s	go for it or do we finish the
4910s	boss we just we just go get it see what
4913s	it is
4915s	only a six corruption it can't be that
4917s	good I just go for the
4921s	boss uh po po2 stole the endgame D4
4925s	stole the itemization and greater
4926s	affixes I wonder what Titan Quest 2 will
4928s	steal just joking I love contributing to
4930s	such things yeah yeah it's like there's
4934s	so many similarities in in games across
4936s	all sorts of genres that it's like I
4937s	don't
4940s	know is there any chance of getting a
4942s	sub game incorporated into Le to gamble
4945s	our gold for items maybe a casino update
4948s	with interactive Min games you can wage
4949s	your gold for prizes if you win it oh
4952s	I'd love to I think okay so I think that
4954s	the if we were going to do this serious
4956s	question serious answer yes I think
4959s	there's room for something like this um
4962s	I don't think it would be uh I when I
4965s	say when I say yes there's something
4966s	room something like this I don't think
4967s	there's room for a casino rather that I
4969s	don't think it could be a casino I think
4971s	that a casino I know the game's the
4973s	game's not marketed at kids it's not for
4975s	kids all that sort of stuff but I still
4976s	don't like putting
4978s	literal casinos in a game like that it's
4982s	just it feels so
4985s	um it it feels like a slippery slope it
4987s	feels like uh you know you're you're
4990s	encouraging things that might not be
4992s	great habits in the real world for a lot
4994s	of people that can't afford to do them
4995s	um even even in a game when the
4996s	consequences are so limited it's I think
4998s	it's still possibly not quite
5000s	responsible to be encouraging things
5002s	like that for people and we know the
5003s	kids do play the game even though not
5005s	supposed to you know and that sort of
5006s	thing so I I I'm not a big fan of Casino
5008s	directly going in I would however be
5011s	really interested in a miname where you
5014s	could say um like it costs 100 goal or
5020s	it's like nothing say it costs you say
5022s	you could wager a fixed amount of gold
5024s	and you be like like a a head-to-head
5026s	Battle of like a mini a head-to-head
5028s	mini game battle with another player
5030s	where you could wage your gold and
5032s	Winner Takes like so so you each put in
5034s	in 100 gold and it'll be way higher than
5036s	that but you each put in 100 gold and
5037s	the winner gets 175 gold and the house
5039s	keeps 25 or something like that as like
5041s	it it acts as a gold syn back into the
5043s	game to keep the economy um in a good
5046s	place it acts as like a you know a uh
5051s	Stakes for the mini game and a way you
5053s	can actually improve your character with
5055s	through the mini game playing because
5056s	you can then use that gold to leverage
5058s	for things in in the at the auction
5059s	house and stuff like that I think there
5061s	need to be more explicit gold syns for
5064s	cof players to make that be really
5066s	awesome um but I'd love to see it yeah I
5069s	I'm like I'm reminded of I know it was a
5072s	failed mechanic in that system but like
5074s	I'm kind of reminded of like an anti
5075s	system in like magic magic the Gathering
5078s	where you'd like put a card from your
5079s	deck up for anti um which is terrible in
5083s	in Magic and and I I like they they got
5086s	rid of it for a reason oh my God I'm
5087s	just going to die right
5089s	away
5090s	okay do not stand in my way
5098s	oh my God what did I click on okay
5100s	uh this is a m uh okay that's
5105s	okay oh my goodness not stand in my
5110s	way behold the r of oh and someone
5113s	mentioned uh last week or the week
5115s	before uh they were talking about the
5118s	this is of
5120s	Mercy like the the Dodge and Dodge back
5123s	issue where like you in my
5128s	way where sometimes when you
5132s	activate
5134s	um this is a mercy
5139s	sh when you activate evade it act it
5143s	reactivates evade immediately taking you
5145s	back to the original
5146s	location um there's a few people there's
5148s	people that are like this happen so much
5149s	how is it not being fixed like it's
5151s	insane type thing and then and I'm
5153s	sitting here being like I've never seen
5154s	this before no idea talking about um but
5156s	we we've we've got a fix for it it was
5158s	just announced in the uh November update
5161s	um so we are working on
5166s	that sons of which I'm really glad to
5172s	see I wish this like this this shielding
5175s	around him was a little more
5177s	obvious it always takes me a second to
5179s	realize cuz I don't fight this boss that
5181s	often um it always takes me a second to
5183s	re remember like oh yeah he's in
5184s	vulnerable on the
5188s	stage one of my friends that's playing
5190s	through the game for the first time
5191s	recently I walked right into
5194s	it um not stand in my way he was
5197s	mentioning that he's like I I I can't
5199s	hit him he's invulnerable
5205s	yes this is a mercy come on shut up see
5210s	I wish it was a little more clear stand
5212s	in my way
5217s	yeah transplant kill to protect my
5220s	people I'll take it oh better
5223s	roll chill don't really care Fizz
5226s	reses fiz reses is nice we do have a lot
5228s	of
5229s	it take stuff out
5232s	elsewhere we don't have a ton of armor
5235s	so you know more armor doesn't really do
5240s	much percentage base armor is kind of
5242s	useless for us let's do F res and we'll
5244s	we'll will take the Fizz reses out of
5246s	somewhere
5247s	else we always switch back anyways later
5249s	because it's discovered
5255s	now all
5258s	right please no XP de I don't like the
5260s	death mechanic yeah don't worry I I I
5262s	hope I said it enough times I have no
5263s	interest in putting that into last
5267s	Epoch I personally think uh XP death
5270s	penalty is a good thing for the higher
5272s	levels to make the journey to 100 feel
5273s	more exciting to hit
5275s	for me personally I do I do think I like
5278s	that it's it is tough I've been through
5280s	the like have you ever tried to level
5282s	Diablo 2 to level 99 oh my God it takes
5288s	forever it is brutal you're like I
5291s	died there's that there's a week of
5293s	grinding gone and like that sucks so
5297s	it's it's such a hard thing to balance
5299s	and decide if you want like I I almost
5301s	there's a small part of me that almost
5302s	wants like a medium core mode if that
5306s	makes any sense where you're
5309s	like these are all kind of good aren't
5311s	they I've got good ones for all these
5314s	want to replace them with better things
5315s	okay can we try empowered we haven't
5317s	done anything to make our character
5320s	better not leveling up fast
5327s	enough
5331s	let's you know let's just go let's go
5333s	right back in let's just let's just get
5334s	more we need more
5338s	more we're going
5343s	up any teasers for mg improvements
5346s	really like the system best training
5348s	system for apgs yet I'm um anything I
5350s	can share with that there's there's some
5353s	little things there's uh we're at that
5356s	point of like go noo on a few systems
5359s	and there there's something that's kind
5360s	of hanging on the edge right now that
5361s	might make it in might not if it does
5363s	it'll be awesome
5365s	um if not it'll be next
5368s	patch
5371s	um but
5378s	yeah there's definitely stuff on the
5381s	way time sta for reference we are 18 all
5385s	218 2 yeah okay not too not doing too
5392s	bad I think it's net that has back and
5396s	forth uh there there's one of them that
5397s	starts with no movement and you can add
5400s	forward movement and then there's a node
5401s	after it it's like I I know cuz I was
5403s	testing it on the tree it's down here
5405s	there's like it comes down and there's a
5407s	node like right here that says uh I
5410s	think it's backflip
5412s	first and then it comes down on an angle
5414s	and it says forward flip down here I
5416s	think I it's it's on Rogue
5422s	somewhere it's also a little thing like
5424s	bista has a bunch of the nodes like that
5425s	too where you're like if you've taken
5428s	bista has some of the hardest ones too
5429s	cuz it's there's one where it's like um
5432s	the the bista explodes itself so you
5433s	want it you want to drop it right next
5435s	to enemies but then there's other ones
5437s	where it gets Buffs for being close to
5439s	you so you want it to drop right beside
5440s	you so like depending on which nodes
5441s	you've taken the the controller has to
5443s	be smart enough or the game has to be
5445s	start to know that because you're
5445s	playing on controller you can't pick
5447s	your targeting perfectly so it has to
5449s	Target enemies or Target yourself based
5452s	on which of those nodes you have
5453s	selected and like
5455s	it's just a ton like there's so many
5456s	nodes that affect it and change the
5458s	strategy and how you play the ability
5460s	that all those decisions that you're
5462s	making as a player on keyboard and mouse
5464s	that you can't make on controller have
5465s	to be able to be made for you and um cuz
5470s	because the way it is right now it just
5472s	does the same thing every time no matter
5473s	what nodes you have taken Mak certain
5474s	nodes actually be downsides to your
5476s	build which is really problematic
5480s	um so we're trying to make it so that
5482s	all those issues go away and and and
5484s	you're like oh it's not putting this in
5487s	it's not like Advanced strategy things
5488s	either it's not like we're taking the
5490s	the skill away completely because like
5492s	it's it's really basic things like do I
5496s	want to jump like if I've taken backflip
5498s	to save myself from enemies do I want to
5501s	have to turn
5502s	around in order to backflip away from
5505s	the enemies first or can I just use
5508s	backflip and
5509s	backflip you know like
5531s	okay that was a close
5535s	one like hit hit and
5538s	Dodge you can hear you can hear that
5540s	space bar when I try and
5543s	Dodge uh all
5545s	right uh when will we get a veteran item
5548s	set
5550s	ah I I don't think we do many more of
5552s	those I I'm kind of ho hum on that whole
5555s	thing we'll see though uh what is the
5557s	story with the dungeon guarding the
5560s	black Sun uh when do we get to fight it
5564s	oh Dragon dungeon oh get some glasses
5566s	Mike the dragon uh guarding the black
5570s	sun when do we to fight it and what does
5571s	orbus come out and said black Sun
5575s	uh will it collide with chapter 12 of
5577s	The
5579s	Campaign
5581s	um I can't really tell you anything
5584s	about that but there is there is
5586s	stuff about that that is you
5590s	know not fully unveiled
5595s	yet uh you promise another teaser mic we
5597s	still waiting yep I did I'm sorry here
5600s	we go you want it you got it
5609s	Paladin if a casino is a nogo how about
5612s	an arcade where you can spend gold to
5614s	play mini games like knockoff Galactica
5617s	or pong we could still have LA classic
5619s	games
5621s	leaderboard I think that's a cool idea I
5624s	think it's a cool idea
5626s	um I think I think we'd want to tie it
5629s	in a little bit to to Ellie and have
5630s	that gameplay transfer over um a little
5634s	bit I don't know I think that might be a
5636s	little too removed but maybe I think
5639s	there's I think there's definitely room
5640s	for mini games that have effects on
5643s	things you know like there's there's
5645s	there's room for tie-ins there I think
5647s	um I have a pretty clear picture of what
5650s	I want that to look like but I'm really
5652s	being really careful not to say that out
5653s	loud
5656s	um yeah uh why is it only fire-based
5660s	special effects from attacks will crash
5662s	my game I don't know but not other
5664s	Elemental special effects what makes
5666s	fire different I I don't know at all I'm
5674s	sorry you got to ping me to see the
5675s	question yeah can I look up a little bit
5678s	ah yes will be seeing overhaul of the
5681s	trade UI and removal of the faction grid
5683s	no grind
5687s	no uh will we see a fix to the trade oh
5691s	that uh will volcanic orbs see some love
5694s	in the next patch been asking for
5695s	literally years well K corbs had had
5697s	changes and things done to it for sure
5700s	um I don't think it's going to H there's
5703s	I don't think there's a giant overhaul
5704s	plan for
5706s	it are you playing pee2 on December 6th
5710s	uh I'm playing last Epoch on December
5711s	6th that's stream day it's one week from
5714s	today but yeah I'll be playing pe2 as
5718s	well and I had already booked the day
5720s	off before
5724s	uh before they announce that date but
5727s	yes I booked that day off accidentally
5729s	accidentally I swear I booked the day
5731s	off before it as
5742s	well you watch the stream overall in
5746s	Q yeah i' I've asked them to make sure
5749s	that there's a queue that ends uh right
5751s	when I finish stream so that I can hop
5752s	in right away no
5757s	let's just give this one let's give this
5758s	one another try I know we got our butts
5759s	handed to us but we're going to
5767s	try oh hi first time stopping by the ATT
5770s	monthly got me curious about the streams
5772s	hope you're doing well I am doing well
5774s	hello and I just realized without anyone
5777s	telling me that it is still on screen I
5779s	got it I got rid of the
5781s	teaser you proud of me oh Kane sent me a
5785s	message
5786s	too and he deleted it
5797s	yeah almost almost got through that one
5799s	on my
5802s	own I need I need like this must be a
5807s	thing like some way to push a button or
5812s	something I don't know that like when I
5814s	when I put a teaser on screen oh my
5818s	goodness ouch my face it really
5821s	hurts what is going
5823s	on run away
5831s	fast so
5838s	persistent oh my
5841s	God what
5847s	oh it doesn't do
5849s	fire I popped a potion going in cuz I'm
5852s	like this will be great it'll save me
5855s	but no it is it's not it's not
5860s	fire all
5864s	right that we we just need we just need
5866s	more damage that's how we fix problems
5868s	we add
5869s	damage I do need to take some time and
5871s	actually like upgrade my gear a chunk
5873s	cuz like there's some big gaps in it
5875s	right now they're just not
5878s	awesome I want
5882s	this I want this I go for this
5888s	instead I was going to ask about a gold
5891s	saucer style Zone in Le with mini game
5894s	funny someone else been asking about it
5897s	today I think it'll be
5898s	sweet uh maybe even an in-game Magic the
5902s	Gathering style card system
5905s	you know me too
5908s	well uh recently I was talking to a
5910s	friend about the fact that uh rooll is a
5915s	fatally that rooll is a fatally
5917s	implemented
5920s	mechanic okay uh for the reason that it
5923s	is slower than the character with
5924s	average movement speed no it's
5927s	not uh due to which it's easier to be
5929s	hit by some of the opponent's abilities
5932s	trying to avoid them with roll and
5933s	simply running away from them uh no roll
5936s	is a little bit faster it's not a lot
5938s	faster but it's a little bit faster it's
5939s	also faster over a short distance so if
5941s	there
5942s	is
5943s	[Music]
5945s	um like if if you're if you're standing
5947s	in an AOE that's like this and and you
5950s	have to and you have to close a gap
5952s	that's like this distance um
5955s	that is is much faster rolling that than
5959s	walking that um but if you're just if
5962s	you're just you're trying to get out of
5963s	an that's like this big um the
5967s	difference because there's a little bit
5968s	of a stall after you roll that the rolls
5970s	that the speed's
5972s	nonlinear um trying to go like really
5975s	long
5976s	distances um if rolling is a tiny bit
5980s	faster but the difference is much less
5983s	over longer distances because you get
5985s	those the stops partway through where
5987s	you do take a pause um but used for
5990s	repositioning specific motions in combat
5993s	it is is more efficient than
5995s	running
5999s	um uh and and it also lets you uh go
6002s	through certain things as well so it's
6004s	it like it's definitely better than
6008s	walking um also if you like if your move
6010s	speed increases the roll speed increases
6012s	as well by the same rate so it it
6014s	there's no um you never have to qualify
6016s	it with uh with average movement speed
6020s	because low and high movement speed
6022s	characters still have the same benefit
6023s	from roll relative to their normal
6025s	movement
6032s	speeds
6035s	yeah cuz I agree that the concern you
6037s	have about it is very valid concern and
6040s	and we very specifically uh designed it
6043s	so that that wouldn't
6051s	happen and it's not perfect
6057s	but I do love
6059s	it I don't use it nearly
6080s	enough okay
6087s	this is getting a little
6090s	spicy getting a little
6096s	spicy more questions got to do it any
6099s	multiplayer improvements for next cycle
6102s	we're doing Seasons now um me and my
6105s	buds uh really like ell just uh not much
6108s	incentive for playing together lots of
6110s	crashes especially in dungeons um yeah I
6112s	mean there's there's lots of stability
6113s	improvements that are coming
6114s	um multiplayer there's there's there's
6116s	lots of great stuff with just having it
6118s	be a smoother gameplay experience that's
6119s	happening um we are uh we're
6123s	we're switching uh chat
6126s	providers um which I know doesn't seem
6129s	like it would be that big of a deal but
6131s	the reason why the uh the the friends
6134s	list is kind
6136s	of janky and doesn't always do what you
6140s	hope it does and is slow uh is because
6143s	of the polling rate that the chat
6145s	provider we use runs through that it
6146s	runs
6148s	through
6151s	um
6152s	and um so yeah we we're definitely
6155s	definitely working on that stuff uh
6157s	there's yeah the dungeons is a known
6159s	issue for for party play that we are
6161s	very much actively working on um and
6163s	it's getting tons of fixes around that
6165s	too uh what else was on there like short
6168s	answer is yeah we're doing stuff it's
6169s	like multi the multiplayer experience is
6172s	um either it depending on what day of
6175s	the week it's either number one or
6176s	number two priority and the thing that
6177s	takes back its spot sometimes is just
6179s	overall game
6181s	performance so
6186s	yeah uh have you been doing any work
6188s	towards PVP no we have not doing any
6190s	work towards PVP um I'd really like I
6194s	can talk about PVP for a minute I'd
6195s	really like PVP in the game I think um I
6198s	think it's one of those things
6199s	where um
6206s	it's it's going to take a lot more work
6208s	than I think I I expect it will take to
6212s	get PVP actually functioning and
6215s	fun um just because
6217s	there's I think there's a lot there's a
6220s	lot of things yeah say there's a lot of
6222s	things we do in the game to give the
6225s	player an
6227s	edge so that it always feels fair so the
6231s	game's never like cheating them
6235s	like we we could have we could have
6238s	minions or enemies be like Oh I'm
6240s	standing in that AOE that you've got
6242s	going on okay I'm going to use this
6244s	movement ability and get out of it you
6246s	know like
6248s	sure
6250s	[Music]
6251s	um it probably wouldn't feel fantastic
6255s	if enemies did that all the time players
6258s	will do that um so there's a lot of then
6261s	at the same time um you know like
6264s	there's a lot of CC reduction stuff that
6266s	we do for players like once you're
6268s	stunned there's a cool down before you
6270s	can get stunned again um and if if
6273s	someone's building uh a character that's
6275s	like really heavily around stun um it
6279s	it's going to behave super differently
6282s	against players than it is going to
6283s	behave against
6286s	enemies um and you know so there's
6289s	there's a lot of these little things we
6290s	do to be like so that the game feels
6294s	Fair it's like kind of air quotes Fair
6298s	um that we just wouldn't be able to do
6301s	in a PVP situation or we'd have to edit
6303s	and change and modify how it actually
6304s	functions so that it still feels Fair
6306s	because we're like there's like the the
6309s	player side there's the like the
6311s	offensive and defensive side that are
6313s	sometimes fighting with each other and
6314s	in PVE when you're fighting enemies and
6317s	not um not players I know ease
6320s	environment not enemies yeah anyways um
6324s	when you're fighting other people and
6325s	not the environment
6330s	um which like who who the system gives
6333s	deference to needs to be carefully
6336s	decided in each
6338s	situation
6343s	um whereas when it's fighting just the
6347s	like when it's PVE um we just like oh
6349s	the player always gets the the
6351s	consideration whenever there's like a
6354s	conflicting things that say like if it
6356s	always does this always happens and this
6357s	never happens what happens like who who
6359s	wins type thing um well in in the game
6363s	right now we just say all the players
6365s	effect just wins but when we go PVP we
6368s	have to figure out which effect wins for
6371s	every single one of those scenarios and
6372s	then there's then there's just like the
6373s	complete damage in Balance like the
6375s	game's entirely balanced around um you
6379s	know enemies having these ginormous
6382s	Health pools and like I'm I'm critting
6385s	players I'm critting enemies like I do
6387s	not have a super high power build at all
6390s	and I'm right now critting enemies for
6392s	way more than my base than my my own
6394s	health pool like high high high high DPS
6399s	abilities are so so lopsided where
6402s	you'll be like oh i' I've got a my tools
6405s	up DPS shows a like a 7 digigit number
6408s	and my health number is a four digigit
6411s	number it's like if those two things
6413s	Collide it's just going to be like two
6416s	people with the longest range abilities
6417s	they can possibly find sitting on
6419s	opposite sides of the PVP Arena shooting
6420s	at each other until you know like
6422s	someone someone hits someone else and
6424s	and there's just it's just all these
6427s	little things that need to go together
6428s	to make PVP really fun and and balanced
6431s	and actually enjoyable for everyone and
6434s	like all of these things I've said have
6436s	Solutions all every single one of these
6437s	problems has ways that you can solve it
6440s	um but it's just it's going to be a long
6441s	development process to find the right
6443s	solution for all those problems test
6445s	them make sure they all work together in
6447s	a system as they as you as they play
6449s	together well you know all these things
6451s	and um you know it's going to be a
6453s	process to get PVP into the game it's
6455s	something that we've wanted to do for a
6456s	long time it was one of the one of the
6457s	stretch goals of our original
6458s	Kickstarter we didn't get to it
6459s	technically I don't think so you know
6462s	debatable whether or not we committed to
6464s	it or not but like eventually it's going
6465s	to be something that we're going to do
6466s	it's just going to take some time um and
6469s	I think that the systems that people the
6471s	core systems of the game that people
6472s	interact with and play with a lot now
6474s	are more important to be spending our
6475s	time on than um PVP so like I think
6479s	endgame is more important than PVP right
6480s	now so we're focusing on end game for
6481s	this patch uh I'd really like to see PVP
6484s	go in I'd really like to see there's a
6486s	few things I'd really like to see with
6487s	it um in particular but think there's
6489s	there's lots of room for awesome PVP
6492s	content I like i' I've talked in the
6495s	past about Stories We we've when we
6496s	originally were starting out
6499s	um with
6503s	I have one yeah I have one more thing
6504s	okay cool I got show I got there's
6506s	another
6506s	teaser um just we're running low on time
6510s	the uh so I've talked
6512s	about uh
6516s	PVP what was I going to say I complet
6518s	lost my train of thought anyways there's
6519s	a cool thing on screen this
6521s	way um so this is a bit of a tease of a
6524s	teaser because it's cut off very
6527s	strategically um because we haven't
6529s	fully balanced this node yet um we have
6532s	we know what the axes we're balancing it
6535s	on are um but we don't have specific
6538s	values for how much yet
6541s	um but yes this is this is the thing
6544s	that I was referencing earlier where I
6546s	didn't show it last week because it had
6548s	just been spoiled as a thing in po2 as
6550s	well and I'm like no it's too soon but
6553s	this week I realized whatever we're
6554s	doing it anyways
6557s	um so yeah this is this is in it feels
6559s	great I've already started designing
6561s	stuff for it there's there's stuff for
6564s	1.3 that uh i' I've been designing
6567s	that's going to go in that's going to
6568s	affect this as well and I'm so excited
6570s	for this one um so you can equip a
6573s	shield at the same time as a two-handed
6576s	axe mace sword or spear um so it is it
6580s	is worded very carefully and it is a
6581s	little limiting so this is specifically
6583s	you may notice Forge Masters might this
6584s	is specifically on Sentinel um there's
6587s	still room
6588s	for you know expanding this in the
6590s	future but initially it is specifically
6592s	going to be a single two-handed weapon
6595s	with a
6596s	shield um so no no other like Catalyst
6601s	or something like
6604s	that yeah it is specifically allowing
6606s	you to equip a shield in your off hand
6608s	at the same time as a twohand or in your
6609s	main hand um and it's a lot of fun it's
6612s	a lot of fun and this is the sort of
6613s	thing that like um wouldn't be possible
6616s	if our entire animation team was was
6617s	doing the uh wasd controls cuz this
6620s	required a ton of Animation work to do
6622s	which I know sounds kind of weird but
6623s	it's a lot
6628s	um are there any spear changes coming
6630s	yep you're going to be able to use him
6631s	with a shield
6633s	now which is
6640s	great
6642s	oh here maybe then roll should just be a
6645s	little longer maybe I'm pretty I'm
6647s	pretty pleased with where it is right
6650s	now personally but if you do have a a
6653s	spe specific suggestion like that you'd
6655s	like us to consider please head on over
6657s	to our feedback and suggestions forums
6660s	or feedback and suggestion sections in
6663s	Discord as we do very
6666s	frequently um PLL suggestions from there
6670s	and feedback and like it gets it gets in
6671s	the game like it really does I think
6674s	this is this is I talk about this all
6676s	the time people who come regularly or
6677s	sick of hearing me say this but like it
6678s	feels a little like um and I understand
6682s	this feeling for sure it feels a little
6683s	like the there there's this place we put
6686s	where we're like oh we don't we don't
6687s	care about the suggestions and here's a
6689s	place that you can go throw them and we
6690s	won't look at it over here in the corner
6691s	just just go put him over here to AIA
6692s	and be like yeah shut up and go put him
6694s	over here that's so not what it is it's
6696s	like the complete opposite it's just
6698s	like we get so many awesome suggestions
6700s	that trying to pull them all from every
6702s	corner of the internet is
6705s	painful uh so we just need your help in
6708s	getting them organized a little bit and
6710s	the easiest way to do that is if
6711s	everyone just puts them in the same
6712s	place
6714s	um so we have like two or three places
6716s	we pull them from specifically and then
6717s	like we do look elsewhere too if it like
6721s	casually happen to stumble upon it but
6722s	the by far the best way to get us to see
6724s	it is putting it in the feedback and
6726s	suggestions Forums on our website or in
6729s	the Discord channel it's like not even
6731s	close to comparable how much better it
6732s	is
6739s	there and like we specifically go
6742s	through the things that come through
6743s	those channels as a group we like we
6745s	like hey this game through that channel
6747s	what do we think about this it's like
6748s	part of our design meetings yeah really
6751s	good use those channels they're
6755s	awesome uh any thoughts on Community
6758s	Driven in-game content on the likes of
6760s	peee div cards and such feels like we
6763s	have such a creative uh creative Creator
6765s	Community uh that could be a great
6767s	opportunity yeah I mean we do we do have
6769s	like supporter uniques that go in I'm
6770s	working on one right now it's awesome
6773s	um there's you know like we we've done
6777s	we've done a few
6778s	collaborative uh like like a bunch of we
6780s	we did a unique once where we just like
6781s	pulled the community for every little
6783s	piece of it we're like What face type
6784s	what's the theme what's the you know we
6786s	just like pulled each piece of it out um
6788s	that was pretty cool you know there's
6790s	there's yeah I think there's we might
6792s	maybe need to do more of that but I do
6794s	think there's room for it I think we've
6795s	done some of it and they've been very
6797s	successful as a game creator how do you
6799s	keep yourself focused on one goal and
6801s	stop the Mind goblins from pulling you
6802s	into 10 different directions what makes
6804s	you think I can stay
6809s	focused um I I think having clear uh the
6813s	way I do it myself is is having very
6817s	clear uh mini goals so like having I I
6821s	will frequently set out um like okay I
6824s	need to get like I need to get I got a
6827s	thousand of these things to do I've got
6828s	to do um at least this rate okay let's
6832s	take 20 % more of that onto the rate and
6835s	let's set that as a as a weekly goal um
6837s	and then like let's let's have specific
6841s	like compartmentalized mini goals and I
6843s	and I I really work well with that so
6845s	that's how I do
6847s	it uh doesn't mean we will see two we
6850s	will see dual wielded two-handed weapons
6852s	it's possible but that is not what that
6853s	node enables um that node specifically
6856s	enables a shield to go with a
6858s	two-hander someone said attack
6861s	speed yeah
6863s	the obvious
6865s	one uh do you plan to add new masteries
6868s	or new classes and if you do when will
6870s	we have a chance to play it we do uh
6872s	plan to add new masteries and new
6874s	classes um none of them will be
6876s	appearing in 1.2 the next patch will not
6878s	include a whole new Mastery or whole new
6879s	Base Class um but we do plan on adding
6882s	more of them and they're going to be
6883s	great uh we I think I know what the next
6886s	uh ma I I know what the next Mastery
6888s	class is going to be for two of the base
6890s	classes and I have a pretty good feeling
6892s	what the next Mastery class is going to
6894s	be for two more of them and I have no
6896s	idea what the last one's going to be for
6897s	the third for for the fifth Mastery the
6899s	the fourth Mastery for the fifth Base
6901s	Class no idea yet um and I have a pretty
6906s	good feeling I know what the First new
6908s	base class is going to be as well but
6910s	I'm less confident on that one we're
6911s	going to see new Mastery classes appear
6913s	before we'll see new Bas classes appear
6915s	likely just because the scope of the
6916s	work required um
6921s	and I think everything I've said is like
6924s	not new information but recap of stuff
6927s	I've said
6929s	before uh people have been asking for
6931s	dual wielding two-handed weapons and I'm
6933s	waiting for a dual wielding wands and
6935s	scepter we see this someday it's
6936s	possible it's that there's there's a
6938s	kind of a thematic issue there where
6940s	it's like it's not doesn't really
6943s	fit with how
6946s	like there there's not really a core
6948s	fantasy to fall back on for those things
6949s	as much
6963s	yes you know would be cool is if the
6965s	cast speed affected the rate that
6967s	Fireballs shot out at from the
6974s	shrine that' be
6978s	sweet all right
6983s	so Barbarian is coming confirmed uh I
6986s	still think that
6989s	uh uh classic
6992s	primalist uh that's the one people say
6994s	it was for I still think primalist has
6996s	room for uh a couple
7000s	options
7006s	um that I'd like to see I I think
7008s	Barbarian would be a sweet option um if
7011s	if I was given in
7014s	the whatever I want goes card for that I
7017s	I would uh it would not be barbarian
7020s	from me I'm
7021s	sorry I would take it a different
7025s	direction but you'll be happy to know
7028s	that I am far from The only voice in the
7030s	room
7045s	and I was not talking about Prim less
7046s	when I was like I know one of them for
7053s	sure and I say I know one of them for
7056s	sure I
7057s	mean you know you never
7064s	know Barbarian would be sweet though I
7066s	do I think it's I think it's a really
7067s	cool play style um and it's it does it
7071s	has fantastic root in in there's core
7073s	fantasy to pull from you know like
7075s	there's it it fits really great there's
7078s	you know it's it's an obvious
7084s	choice all right we're coming up on the
7087s	end here so I'm not going to do any more
7089s	uh Echoes but I will finish off
7091s	answering some questions did I did I do
7093s	all the spoilers for this week I did do
7095s	all the spoilers this
7101s	week uh
7105s	um if
7107s	barbar anyone there play Warhammer 40K
7109s	Inquisitor martyr I just got into it in
7111s	good time so far wondering if you had
7113s	any influence from that as well it's
7114s	been like I've been so close to starting
7117s	it up so many
7119s	times it just keeps getting pushed off
7121s	by something else um I know a few people
7124s	on the team have played it and have had
7125s	have good things to say about it uh when
7127s	can we expect Rogue Sentinel and
7129s	primalist to reclaim their missing
7131s	skills uh
7133s	it's a weird weird way of woring it but
7134s	yeah I see what you're saying Shadow uh
7137s	Rogue is the worst affected with four
7139s	slots still vacant I agree Rogue is the
7141s	worst affected with four slot still
7144s	vacant uh if Barbarian is in the game
7147s	does that mean we will have uh shout
7149s	cool and recovery
7151s	rate yeah War that's one of the things
7153s	war cry is pretty heavily linked to
7156s	Barbarian theming um and it's it's
7158s	pretty heavily integrated into like
7161s	multiple it's it's pretty uh cuz it's
7164s	got like totem mode it's got Werebear
7166s	mode it's got um it's just really good
7169s	with minions as well so it's like it's
7171s	really uh integrated already across the
7175s	classes but you know
7177s	I it would be tough to build off war cry
7179s	too much directly I almost want to like
7181s	if you were going to this is not
7183s	something we're working on so I can talk
7184s	about it um if we were going to add a
7187s	barbarian class I yeah I'd want to maybe
7190s	add a second like more shouts possibly
7192s	that might that might be a way to take
7193s	it um as a theming
7196s	route maybe just one more I don't
7200s	know all
7203s	right any time frame on missing skills
7206s	for Shaman Lich Marksman Etc um they
7208s	they'll slowly they'll slowly come in
7210s	we're not really specifically saying hey
7212s	there needs to be the same amount for
7213s	every class but we do focus on the ones
7216s	that have fewer uh hey Mike is anyone on
7219s	your team testing with a handheld like
7221s	the Ally X to check performance and
7223s	compatibility with Ellie we don't
7224s	officially support um those those
7227s	devices so I don't think so at least no
7230s	one's explicitly testing it for each new
7232s	feature I could say that um I know
7235s	there's a few people that on the team
7236s	that do play with things like that um
7239s	so vaguely a little bit but not really
7242s	uh new class idea void Bishop Caster
7245s	that just deals void damage I feel you
7247s	to come with a way better name for that
7249s	and is that acolyte or Mage base
7255s	um I feel like psychic stuff is a great
7256s	fantasy that could not support in the
7258s	game yet any thoughts on that Mesmer was
7259s	one of my favorite classes in um Guild
7262s	Wars 1 I played way too much Guild Wars
7266s	1
7269s	um that was my gild War one was my first
7271s	like fantasy RPG online
7276s	game and uh Mesmer so good love love
7281s	Mesmer class I would love to get
7282s	something like that and I think that's
7284s	like I I would jump the opportunity for
7285s	that type of class yeah um any idea next
7288s	season will start uh sometime between
7290s	January 1st and March
7295s	31st uh do you think we would ever see a
7298s	battle order style war cry uh or giving
7302s	health or giving Health to op and El
7305s	temporary health has problems in uh in
7308s	our system um it's not impossible but it
7310s	has problems so we avoid it if we
7315s	can
7317s	um I remember you say you plan to change
7320s	set item somehow are we close to this
7322s	change or still just far away um it
7327s	is uh closer than it's ever been but I
7330s	have no
7332s	ETA I mean it's always closer than it's
7334s	ever been that's the dumbest thing to
7335s	say Mike you just said literally nothing
7337s	um it's it's I would
7340s	say there's been there's been some minor
7343s	movement on it
7344s	recently um I'll say
7347s	that but I don't want to promise
7349s	anything around it it's I'm still so
7352s	it's one of those things it's a system
7353s	we've had like like in the in the
7356s	chamber for so long and like it's so
7359s	it's going to be great and like H it's
7363s	it's it doesn't need to be super
7365s	complicated um but just getting set
7368s	items integrated back into the like hey
7370s	a set item dropped yay
7372s	like having that moment come back is so
7374s	important I
7376s	think uh I feel like is Bard coming B
7380s	Bard's a really tricky class I don't I
7382s	haven't seen personally I haven't seen a
7385s	good pitch internally or externally yet
7387s	for um a Bard that would fit well in our
7391s	uh class system a Bard is a base class I
7394s	don't think would work I think it would
7395s	have to be a Mastery um and I don't I
7397s	haven't seen a good base class that fits
7400s	Bard really well yet um there's there's
7402s	been a couple there was an example I had
7404s	a while ago that I thought was decent
7406s	but it's still like B+ range and I want
7411s	A+
7413s	um uh I feel like the Rogue archetype is
7416s	you hit me with all these questions at
7417s	the end I love these questions I I'm
7418s	going to have to end at some point but I
7420s	will keep answering this so I'm just
7421s	going to I'm just not going to play so I
7421s	can answer faster I feel like the Rogue
7423s	archetype is one with the least
7425s	defensive skills and passives any idea
7427s	to give it uh at least evasion defensive
7430s	option for the rad uh for the Rogue
7433s	class I mean there's there's I think
7434s	Rogue has a lot of uh I think Rogue
7437s	actually has a lot of defensive
7438s	mechanics
7440s	um we've got Dodge we've got silver
7443s	shoud we've got dust shoud we've got
7444s	glancing blow uh We've now got Perry um
7448s	and it does also have ways that you can
7450s	instead uh like you can you can use
7452s	armor as well um it also has like ey
7455s	frame stuff on certain abilities um also
7458s	super high Mobility I think Mobility not
7460s	being counted as a defensive mechanic is
7464s	um a missed opportunity sometimes so you
7466s	know like and and yeah there are still
7468s	options for other defensive things
7469s	there's really good ways of applying
7471s	offensive based defensive things so like
7474s	applying Frailty applying blind applying
7476s	slow applying stun he does all those
7478s	things really well um you know
7481s	immobilize things it it has so many of
7483s	these tools it that you can leverage
7485s	that I think it's actually kind of
7487s	spoiled for Choice when it comes to
7488s	defensive options but yeah there's
7490s	there's always room for other things to
7491s	come in as well well It's Tricky adding
7494s	in too many axes that you can scale
7496s	defenses on
7498s	um and I think that Dodge is inherently
7502s	a frowned upon mechanic in airp Gs in
7504s	general unfortunately uh any plans to
7507s	add was the support in the future I have
7508s	answered this twice already this stream
7509s	so I'm just going to go really shortly
7511s	um the animation requirements for it are
7513s	so immense that it holds it
7516s	back uh here's an idea that's been
7518s	submitted to Discord uh what your take
7522s	what's your take I think it's what
7523s	supposed to say uh new base type Idea
7525s	new base item idea of incorporating oh
7528s	God I'm going to butcher that
7532s	name uh
7536s	kasama close basically a chain with a
7538s	sickle on one side and a weight on the
7541s	other uh it would be a two-handed weapon
7542s	that implicits would be uh percent
7545s	chance to drag a distant enemy nearby on
7547s	melee hit uh base stun nearby enemy on
7550s	melee hit yeah the the the implicits are
7554s	um kind of a non-starter so no on those
7557s	implicits Al I hate saying no to ideas
7560s	but like I'm sorry those those implicits
7561s	are not okay to do um on on a base
7564s	weapon type um they're they're too
7566s	complex and moving enemies in general is
7569s	not something that's very performant and
7571s	so we try and avoid it and it's got tons
7573s	of issues so we try and avoid it as well
7575s	um from a design perspective as well so
7578s	it's
7580s	uh I could see a unique that kind of
7582s	worked this way a little bit maybe and
7584s	like there's really specific situations
7585s	that those effects happen so you could
7586s	build that fantasy in
7590s	um as a base type I don't think there's
7592s	enough variation in the uh in in the
7595s	base type that you you'd be able
7600s	to
7602s	like if if you're interesting if you're
7605s	uh if you're introducing a new bass type
7607s	there needs to be a lot of variation in
7608s	the mechanics that can go on those
7609s	implicits um so like you know you get
7612s	different theming for different base
7614s	types Like You on like daggers you get
7616s	much higher crit and attack speed um and
7618s	then on like two-handed Maes you get a
7620s	much higher damage and stun chance so
7622s	there's like these theming that happen
7623s	around these base types that you need to
7625s	be able to um to spread across all the
7628s	different types of of subtypes in that
7630s	[Music]
7632s	base all right I was just thinking that
7634s	very interesting option would be to be
7636s	able to get a special runes that would
7637s	allow you to shatter set items in order
7640s	to get shards with to upgrade them yeah
7642s	that's a cool way of doing it um putting
7645s	those shards back onto set items would
7647s	feel kind of weird I
7649s	think um vile of volatile ice well one
7653s	thing we don't want to do with set items
7654s	is add more stuff to existing set items
7656s	that's that's something we're not really
7657s	interested in doing CU that's basically
7658s	what unique items do when you add
7659s	exalted to
7661s	them vile of volatile ice is one of
7663s	those items I'd love to see more of on
7666s	other classes but those items I think
7668s	would be awesome to have different
7669s	implicits to accommodate also why can't
7671s	stay have melee attack speed aside from
7673s	Quarter Staff
7675s	implicit it's a void melee weapon it's a
7677s	valid melee weapon after all um I think
7679s	it just comes down to the like the class
7681s	fantasy and we don't really have a like
7684s	a
7684s	dexterity two-handed staff type class
7688s	fantasy yet like we don't have that monk
7689s	play style um that I'd really love to
7692s	see so I think I think we would need
7694s	that that um that uh Mastery or base
7697s	class that would have that theming to
7700s	come through first like a marshall um
7703s	like a low armor staff wielding Marshall
7706s	type character um that we don't really
7710s	have yet but I'd love to see sorry I
7713s	missed it but if is anyone on your team
7715s	testing Le I already answered that uh or
7718s	maybe you missed it so um we we we are
7721s	testing with so there's a question let
7723s	me read the whole thing I may have
7724s	missed it but is anyone testing on your
7726s	team Le with handheld devices like Rog
7728s	allyx or steam deck for performance
7731s	improvements mostly we are testing on
7732s	Steam deck and that is something we're
7734s	actively developing improvements for the
7735s	other things that get improvements
7737s	because of that is is indirectly but
7739s	steam deck is is a platform we're
7740s	supporting the other ones are platforms
7742s	that happen to
7744s	work two-handed Shields oh my God I want
7746s	it please uh are you guys addressing the
7749s	disparity between one-handed and
7751s	two-handers in 1.2
7754s	um there are lots of changes to both
7757s	coming
7759s	so it's going to be a different story
7763s	all right I was just thinking that a
7764s	very interesting option would be able to
7765s	get a
7767s	special you already said
7773s	this uh thank you sir missed your reply
7775s	earlier no
7779s	problem Mogul I think that was one I
7781s	just answered I don't know if it was
7782s	intentionally a double question
7787s	there well we did it 12 minutes over
7790s	that's fine you had lots of great
7791s	questions at the end there sorry I had
7792s	to Rattle through them a little faster
7794s	um if you do have any more questions or
7796s	I missed your question I apologize it
7797s	was not intentional uh please head on
7799s	over to our Discord we have an ASD devs
7801s	Channel where I'll be happy to answer it
7802s	there for you um and uh that'll about do
7806s	it for me I'll be back same time same
7808s	place next
7810s	week and even even though it's the I I
7814s	okay we'll double check there might be
7815s	an announcement that we may cut it I
7816s	don't know they may decide there no
7817s	point if the po2 is the exact same day
7821s	um but I've streamed before on Peewee
7823s	launch days so who knows I I I'll
7824s	probably be streaming I want to um
7828s	anyways I hope you had a great day I
7830s	hope you had a good time I know I did
7832s	I'll be
7833s	back and let's go say hi to someone
7836s	let's go see let's go see who's out
7837s	there streaming Ellie right
7848s	now let's see
7860s	oh don't know if it's a reference but
7863s	love the British version of the show
7865s	couldn't get into the UK I couldn't get
7866s	into the US One

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