Developer Live Stream 12.13.24 | Last epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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3s	good afternoon everybody and welcome
6s	back to another last EPO Dev
10s	stream as usual I'm your host Mike hello
15s	how's it going everybody great to see
17s	you glad to be here hope you're having a
19s	great day we're just going to we're
21s	going to have some fun in place in last
22s	EPO today um working on a new character
26s	to get going for streams cuz you know I
27s	feel like we've been playing this one
28s	for quite a while and we've been doing
30s	pretty good with it I'm quite confident
33s	with uh what I was trying to discover by
36s	playing this character
40s	um so I think we're going to we're going
42s	to take a little Divergence to to a new
44s	one here pretty soon
49s	um but I did recently get a very
52s	significant attack speed up upgrade
55s	which helps me survive a
59s	lot uh um so yeah uh welcome to the
62s	stream if you've not been here before
63s	please uh feel free to ask me any
65s	questions you'd like about last Epoch
67s	and um if you want me to answer your
69s	question please put at last defa game in
71s	the question so I see it and I answer um
75s	woo getting a little spicy here we're
78s	still not quite strong enough to empower
79s	it on our own I don't think my buddy was
81s	carrying me through uh last
85s	week which uh if you're watching please
88s	I need uh some more help uh but
92s	and
94s	um it's
96s	tight uh we also stream for
98s	charity uh which is right above my head
101s	right here always above my head oh nice
104s	key and
106s	uh I'm realizing that I have to focus a
109s	lot on the game when I'm playing
112s	empowered on this character cuz it's not
114s	very
116s	good kind of okay but we're we're we're
119s	missing a few key things
125s	still I did sell an item on the bizaar
127s	just before getting in pretty happy with
132s	that
135s	okay let's take a peek think we got some
138s	questions to look at can you please tell
141s	us about the Weaver faction in the road
143s	map we must know I would love to um a
146s	little little little early to be talking
148s	specifics unfortunately I don't have any
150s	details on that to share with you today
152s	um it is going to be another like I mean
155s	there's the basics that I can tell you
156s	but it's kind of nothing information so
158s	like uh it's going to be another faction
161s	that appears in this window um
165s	okay
170s	um yeah we're uh we're kind of anemic
174s	when we're not in Reaper
176s	form survivability wise and
184s	uh yeah so it's yeah it's going to be
185s	another faction shows up in here I can't
187s	I don't know what was in the screenshot
189s	exactly here let me let me bring up the
191s	screenshot and I can talk about stuff
193s	that's in the
196s	screenshot all
199s	right H I don't know if that tab's going
202s	to open up my main monitor or
204s	not okay well we'll do it here uh forums
212s	uh season 2 announcement and
216s	Beyond check out that
223s	image did we give a specific image
231s	for the Weaver itself for the weav
234s	faction
235s	itself have we shown that yet
240s	look back to chat in a second let me
242s	know if we've shown the
246s	actual uh if we have yeah we haven't
249s	shown that yet okay uh I think the I
252s	think the only information we've we've
253s	shared about it is just in the road map
255s	document that just says there's a weaver
259s	faction uh does weaver faction
263s	tree there's a tree involved with it so
265s	yeah there are things there are
266s	decisions to make in the Weaver faction
270s	itself where you can like there's a
272s	tree
277s	um that's kind of all the information
279s	that's there isn't
285s	it um the Weaver faction tree this new
288s	Weaver faction this new faction Weaver
290s	expands the endgame experience by
292s	providing the power to augment your
293s	monolith timelines during endgame
295s	progression this new faction will be
297s	available to all players regardless of
299s	their faction alignments the other
301s	faction alignments so yeah so it doesn't
302s	matter if you've if you've picked
304s	Merchant skill or circle of Fortune it's
305s	there that's that's something that's
307s	going to be a consistent theme going
308s	forward is that new factions we add will
312s	um I don't want to say never but
314s	generally the plan is to make them not
315s	be linked to each other so like um
318s	there's a bucket of the forgot that the
320s	Forgotten Knights is in it's it's the
321s	only thing in the bucket and there's a
323s	bucket that is item factions and the
325s	only thing in that bucket is Merchant
326s	Guild and circle of Fortunes and
327s	there'll be a new bucket for the Weaver
328s	faction it's the only thing in that
329s	bucket
330s	and we could see a new bucket that might
332s	have three things or four things in it
333s	or we might add things to other buckets
335s	like we might add things to the
336s	Forgotten Knight's bucket there be two
337s	things you to pick between know like but
339s	but for now it's its own thing doesn't
341s	matter what else you've taken it doesn't
342s	restrict you from anything else everyone
343s	just gets
347s	it uh I don't think we've said much else
350s	other than that it's kind of
353s	it sorry I can't go much deeper
361s	um but yeah it's it's really going to
363s	focus around endgame like that's that's
365s	the and when I say endgame like it it'll
367s	it'll start being relevant like when you
370s	first do your 58 level 58 timeline right
372s	here it's like that's where it starts so
375s	it's like it's really a
378s	um it's it's not just like a super like
381s	it does extend into the the the like the
383s	very late end game um but it is the
385s	entirety of the end game that it affects
388s	okay going to turn off those
391s	uh till tomorrow sure someone's on
394s	vacation right
398s	now oh I just got popped out of form
402s	immediately I keep forgetting I have to
404s	pre-ot to go into combat that's one of
406s	the things I've been struggling with
407s	this build is having to
409s	preot just to be able to
411s	survive the initial form
416s	transformation or form transition
422s	what is
424s	that a bunch of
436s	Mana Del really does do a ton of
440s	damage I'm just so scared to use
443s	it just cuz I'm a wuss I know it
451s	about that all
452s	right uh season 2 teaser was hype
456s	perhaps more spoilers today I got a
458s	couple little things I got some I got
459s	some more nodes to share um I've got
462s	I've got a game of spot what's
464s	missing
466s	uh you know got a couple little things
469s	nothing nothing groundbreaking
473s	um happy to talk uh design philosophy
476s	stuff today if you'd like cuz there's
478s	been a lot of discussions around that
479s	going on lately
481s	uh hi Mike love the game thank you and
484s	your beard I just got a new
487s	um the wife just picked up a new beard
490s	conditioner for me that I
492s	love so what smells great right
497s	now uh but yes back to your question
499s	while I be less self-indulgent uh I
501s	wanted to ask as a kind and silly lore
504s	question kind of silly lore question uh
506s	that you might know the answer to why
507s	can the player character only wear two
509s	magical rings that give stats the 2's
512s	manual had a sentence about which I
513s	found weirdly immersive considering the
515s	unimportance of it also flail weapons
518s	when okay so I I this is I I have my own
522s	personal reason of why this is cuz it's
523s	it's something that comes up in a ton of
525s	games as you as you noted in Diablo as
526s	well I don't know what it says in the
527s	Diablo manual which is something that I
529s	will absolutely be going to look up
530s	after this because I didn't know it had
531s	to line in there and I you may not know
534s	this but that's one of my favorite games
535s	of all time
537s	um and
540s	uh so so the the way I've sort of
541s	internally rationalized this for like
545s	forever basically in every fantasy
547s	situation
550s	um uh is is that the power of the Rings
553s	is so great that if you put two of them
555s	on your hand at once it would like just
558s	rip your hand apart cuz all the power
560s	would be like and your hand would
561s	explode so you
563s	don't
565s	um and that's that's sort of the
567s	reasoning that I've always had is that
568s	like there just there's so much power
570s	contained in the ring that you can't
571s	handle it
573s	um and then like the the the counter to
576s	that usually is okay well why don't you
577s	like put one on your toes um and it's
581s	like there's there's some there's
582s	something in the way that like energy
584s	flows through your body or something
585s	that like causes it to only work if it's
587s	attached to uh to your hand cuz it's too
590s	far from your heart and your feet or
592s	something like that you know there's
592s	there's some some some explanations you
594s	can do there I I don't have an official
597s	real explanation for this um
600s	that's that's that's my my the way I
602s	personally think about
604s	it oh come
607s	on come
609s	on don't kill me now I'm having such a
613s	good
617s	time one of the advantages of not being
619s	able to sing well is you can't ever get
622s	struck for singing songs cuz you don't
624s	sound enough like the original
631s	all right next question oh flail weapons
633s	when yes flails I would love flails um
637s	flails require a new and this is like my
640s	answer to so many questions like this
641s	flails require a new animation set
645s	um and uh like when you say flum you
648s	mean like the
650s	um
652s	dangly uh weighted thing on a chain
656s	attached to a a small stick type type
658s	fail like I don't know the technical
660s	terms for all those things are
664s	um
665s	and I think there's another type of
667s	flail too that like slightly different
669s	anyways
672s	um
674s	Lion
677s	the goodness
680s	me flails require new animation types um
683s	so they they get they they'll get
684s	delayed a little bit I think they'll
686s	likely come I think most new weapon
688s	types will likely come alongside new
691s	masteries cuz I think that's a really
693s	nice way to add in a new weapon type is
695s	is to have the thematics and you know
698s	there's a lot of nodes that go into
699s	passive trees and things like that and
701s	into uh skill trees that relate to
704s	specific weapons so having those come
706s	with new skill trees and new passive
708s	trees that you're already making anyways
710s	lets you double dip on a lot of the work
712s	which is really important um and so if
715s	we had if we had the bulk of the like
718s	you know new new uniques new um passive
722s	nodes new skill impact nodes o
728s	spicy thought I almost had that
730s	one oh well we're like almost able to
734s	clear one node on on empowered like see
737s	we're just we're just not quite good
739s	enough on this character yet and I'm I'm
740s	not quite sure what I'm
744s	missing but we'll give it another try
750s	uh so yeah
752s	there's flails are on the menu um but I
756s	don't think flails are uh happening
759s	anytime in they're not happening 1.2
762s	I'll tell you
774s	that I just need to be more aggressive
776s	and more mobile here just like just keep
779s	going
780s	just be like my damage will carry me I
782s	just got to make sure I go for
790s	it autoc
805s	crits oh oh no nothing really that's
808s	okay
812s	oh
814s	whoa okay more questions I'm going to do
816s	I got to stop playing owed cuz then I
817s	can read the questions better that's
819s	what I'm going to do I'm just going to
820s	stop playing powered here uh any rework
822s	for the Lich plans um I wouldn't say a
826s	rework I think the Lich is um
829s	thematically and mechanically in
831s	actually a pretty good spot um I it
834s	could use like
837s	um I I think it could use some really
839s	key adjustments in some some fine-tuning
842s	that would have a big impact that's kind
844s	of where I'm at with the Lich right now
844s	cuz I've been playing the Lich a
846s	bunch um specifically cuz I kind of felt
848s	like
849s	there's something missing and I wasn't
851s	sure exactly what it was and I wanted to
853s	get a little bit better firsthand
854s	experience on it in the modern Lich play
856s	style in order to be able to figure out
857s	what we should do with it
860s	basically um and I think I think there's
863s	a lot of really good things L has going
865s	for it I think it is a ton of
867s	fun um I I think
871s	the the big gripe I have with it right
874s	now or the gripes wrong the thing I'd
875s	like to change is um how sort of like on
880s	a knife's edge I'm always feeling and
883s	that might be a really positive thing
885s	for some people but I just haven't I
887s	haven't found a really great way to
889s	build it other than on that knife's edge
891s	all the
893s	time like the the the optimal chest
896s	piece for this for this um
900s	uh the the the optimal chest piece that
903s	I should be running is Titan heart and
906s	uh when I
909s	do uh here we go holding the wrong hocky
913s	been playing other games
916s	ah is this one I just put away oh was I
923s	wearing this no what was I just
928s	wearing I think it was this it's got to
930s	be that
931s	yeah yeah um so yeah this is what
934s	happens when I put on my
937s	optimal uh chest piece is my health just
940s	drops to
941s	zero um and having to preot going into
944s	combat this what I was talking about
945s	preting going into combat is it's it's
947s	kind of frustrating for me and I don't I
949s	don't like that play style that much
952s	um cuz as soon as I go to form my health
955s	decays and I pop out of form um so I'm
958s	like I have to be leeching immediately
959s	or preting and it's that it's that sort
961s	of knife's edge that I'm not hugely a
964s	fan of right
968s	now and so I'd like to I'd like to
971s	address that but I do have a couple uh
973s	nicer chests I'm really happy with
975s	getting that uh the Mana gain on Harvest
977s	and the bonus damage taken from critical
979s	strikes reduction so like I have my 100%
981s	reduced bonus damage taken from crits
984s	off from my chest and my weapon which is
986s	so nice and getting that Max roll I got
988s	so lucky yeah I got so lucky I I did
991s	this uh last Last Friday um in the
994s	evening and I um I I got I found another
998s	1 LP D Embrace oh no I found a zero LP D
1001s	Embrace egged it to one LP uh and then
1004s	found someone had listed a 96% increased
1007s	melee attack speed exalted weapon uh for
1010s	like 2,000 gold which is Max roll um I
1014s	just I couldn't believe it I snatched it
1015s	up went and slammed it like ah there's
1017s	no way first try oh my God got so lucky
1023s	anyways uh we're going to we're going to
1025s	hop out of empowered cuz I'm just
1026s	getting my butt handed to me I'd like to
1030s	be able to
1035s	actually talk to y'all that's my
1037s	favorite part about
1039s	this uh but yeah I think I think there's
1042s	liches is
1044s	missing
1046s	um a second option for melee attack
1049s	there's only one right now Reef doesn't
1051s	really count um and so you need you need
1055s	another option an alternative option or
1057s	a complimentary option to harvest I
1059s	think and then you also need um a little
1063s	bit less of the like it is I think there
1065s	needs to be a little bit alternative
1067s	option
1068s	for
1070s	um managing Health a little bit and it
1073s	doesn't have to be an either or but just
1074s	like it doesn't have to be a replacement
1076s	but a just some a little more option is
1078s	there that's what I like to see so yeah
1080s	there's there's room for improvement on
1081s	L there's room for improvement on all
1082s	the classes but um I I think I don't
1085s	think a reworks in order just
1088s	yet
1091s	uh We've not shared any images of the we
1093s	refection okay good to know thank you uh
1096s	hey cutie a uh hope you've been been
1099s	well in season two does spring get a
1101s	dash ability meme question Jokes
1103s	Aside um will with each season adding a
1108s	faction will this be a continued Trend
1110s	ah okay I see with each season adding a
1112s	new faction will this be continued Trend
1114s	or will you have a season uh with only
1117s	season mechanics to stop faction bloat
1119s	yeah I I don't think that um adding a
1121s	faction every season is
1124s	um uh is the plan or is necessary even I
1127s	think that it's a um it's a really good
1132s	way for us to add Frameworks for
1134s	specific mechanics and I think once
1136s	they're in uh we can we can have an
1139s	entire seasonal mechanic system come in
1141s	that doesn't need uh its own faction but
1144s	can either like work within the other
1146s	factions um like you could put like you
1148s	can spread an entire seasonal mechanic
1150s	across like four factions um and have it
1154s	still use the faction mechanic but not
1155s	need its own new faction so we're kind
1157s	of getting to that critical mass of hey
1160s	we need this many I should check which
1162s	set that item
1164s	is uh no I won't want that one um
1179s	and sorry I guys got distracted hey
1182s	leveled up and um but yeah yeah I I
1185s	think that the you'll you'll see a new
1186s	faction this one um I wouldn't be
1189s	surprised if there
1191s	were like maybe one off two on one off
1195s	two on for a little while um
1200s	just until we get up to what whatever
1202s	the amount is that we find is good and
1204s	that that rate that we are adding them
1206s	at is going to be reexamined and
1208s	readjusted every single time we go
1210s	through and uh do a new
1216s	season so yeah that's that that's
1218s	something that's going to change as we
1220s	go um the rate that we add them at but
1222s	it's not it's not a guaranteed every
1223s	season thing at all if anything it will
1225s	slow down uh quite a lot
1236s	um because as as we don't need them
1238s	anymore
1243s	yeah ooh hello
1248s	there do we have anything that we want
1250s	to LP on that
1252s	already okay zero on this
1255s	one yeah let's just let's just go for it
1257s	may maybe we'll get lucky oh I was also
1259s	looking at doing one of these wasn't
1264s	I zero c yeah let's let's let's put a
1267s	siphon in just cuz I like
1269s	it why not
1273s	right uh not a lot going on elsewise
1277s	that's fine
1287s	though yes
1293s	love it oh get
1301s	out your death has come okay more
1305s	questions we like these
1308s	questions factions going to rotate or
1311s	will they coexist continuing um I think
1314s	it's we we don't have any plans to
1316s	remove any factions all the factions
1317s	we're we're adding are plan to permanent
1319s	fixtures um that's not to say that we'll
1322s	never add a faction that's temporary um
1325s	but right now the plan is to have them
1326s	be permanent um and they're they're
1328s	being added and designed as permanent
1330s	things
1334s	um I think if we were going to remove
1337s	one it would probably need to get
1338s	replaced at the same time and it'll
1340s	it'll Pro it would
1342s	probably at at that point like you're
1345s	probably just reworking an existing one
1348s	cuz cuz like there would have to be a
1351s	really important reason to just to Brand
1353s	it as we're removing one and adding a
1355s	new one rather than just we're reworking
1357s	it um so it have to be a really core
1360s	change to the game to make that the like
1362s	the way we phrased it I think
1388s	all
1390s	right this feels great in regular
1393s	modos I'm just strong enough to handle
1395s	everything this is too much all
1400s	right worthless anyway oh yeah
1409s	all right next question greetings Mike
1412s	hello uh so with the launch of pee2 ea
1416s	uh has the team seen any anything you
1419s	guys want to implement in Le I imagine
1421s	it's difficult wanting to add something
1422s	similar without being a direct copy
1426s	um I mean there there's I think it's
1430s	really really hard to transplant a
1432s	system from one game to another um I
1436s	think it's I think it's there's there's
1437s	some like little things where you're
1439s	like oh my God they do this one thing
1441s	really really well how can we make that
1445s	same category of Thing feel really
1448s	really good in our game and it's less
1450s	about saying like Okay what have they
1452s	done to make it feel really good over
1453s	and there so that we can take that and
1455s	and do the same thing in ours but more
1458s	just like how do I feel when I'm you
1460s	interacting with that that thing in
1462s	theirs and how do I feel when I'm
1464s	interacting with that thing and ours and
1465s	independently of what they've done how
1467s	can we make ours in the same feeling or
1470s	even better feeling if we if we can so
1472s	it's um I think it's less about looking
1475s	at what we can take but more looking at
1476s	like um what areas do we feel we can
1480s	improve ourselves in I think it's a good
1482s	way putting
1484s	it um and yeah they're definitely are
1486s	things I think they're um like a lot of
1489s	the presentation stuff they do is so
1491s	cool there was there was one thing when
1493s	I was playing that I was I I saw it it
1495s	happened and I was like oh my God that's
1498s	brilliant
1499s	I can't believe we never thought to do
1501s	that I don't think the system set up
1503s	where we can do that and I was just
1505s	crushed I'm like oh no I don't think we
1506s	I like the rework level required to do
1509s	it would be so huge that it's just like
1512s	ah I'm not even going to try and it was
1514s	it's so it's so simple and so basic that
1517s	you're
1520s	like it's it's the pinning of tool tips
1524s	on the screen where you can take a tool
1526s	tip and like you I think you hold Alt
1529s	and it it like stays on screen for a
1531s	second and there's like a little pin
1532s	icon that shows up in the top right
1534s	corner of it and you click on that and
1535s	you can like then then the tool tips
1537s	stays as a window on your screen and you
1539s	can move that around and and like just
1541s	that little thing I I spend a lot of
1543s	time working on our tool tips and our UI
1544s	so like of course that's the type of
1545s	thing I I I I latch on to but like that
1549s	little those those attention to detail
1551s	and things like that really impressed me
1553s	a lot and I was so I was I that happened
1556s	and I'm like oh my God
1561s	um but yeah I don't with the way our
1564s	tool tips are set up we have to
1565s	completely redo our entire tool tip
1567s	system to make that even be a
1569s	possibility
1572s	um and and it's just it's just uh it's
1576s	frustrating that I don't think we can do
1578s	it um you though I would love to
1589s	all right not really my department
1591s	anymore so we get anything o crit chance
1595s	I'll take
1598s	it not the lp we'd like
1602s	but without looking up what I should put
1605s	in there crit chance is probably one of
1606s	the things that comes to mind is a good
1609s	option it me
1619s	made worst case scenario very
1622s	generically useful on a very generically
1624s	useful
1635s	ring descendence get
1638s	it
1640s	okay will not take
1644s	me more questions
1650s	just going to take a sec uh hello if you
1652s	have a minute could you please explain
1654s	what happens to skill tree sub skills
1657s	when taking a damage type conversion for
1660s	example smites lightning bolts and
1662s	smites void conversion in the void
1664s	Knight skill tree pleas and thank you um
1666s	it does what it says it does if it
1668s	doesn't say it does something it doesn't
1669s	do that thing um so there's I I believe
1673s	in that instance right now in the live
1675s	version of the game um the the the
1678s	subskill does not change it stays
1681s	lightning damage it does not change to
1682s	void damage um now we are kind of in the
1686s	process of trying
1688s	to um make it more intuitive and having
1693s	those things not convert is not very
1695s	intuitive um which is why you're having
1698s	to ask this question it's a good
1700s	question first of all um and I I I'd
1703s	really like to make it so that in almost
1706s	every situation like the the the default
1708s	expected behavior is when you convert a
1710s	skill it converts the subskills cuz
1711s	that's just like obvious right like love
1715s	it when it's just the one thing on there
1717s	um but it's a bad mod so probably why it
1719s	wasn't highlighted anyways
1722s	um the yeah so so so going forward newer
1728s	conversions uh when we when we're
1730s	setting up a conversion on a skill tree
1731s	we do also convert the
1733s	subskills um and we have been going back
1735s	and converting lots of subskills for
1737s	older skills
1739s	um I know that this was at I don't know
1743s	if it happened or not I know this was at
1745s	least a item that got added to a task at
1749s	some point and I don't know if it was
1750s	finished or not yet uh so I don't want
1754s	to say it's coming but um it's
1756s	definitely at least on the radar this
1759s	the specific one and the whole issue uh
1762s	is is also on the radar so the ones that
1764s	do convert now will actually say in the
1767s	conversion um or or or they'll say in
1770s	the subskill node so in the subskill
1771s	node they'll say converts to cold if you
1774s	take the cold conversion node if you
1776s	hold the alt tool TI um so check in the
1779s	in this case the lightning bolt node
1781s	check hold hold alt and see if it says
1783s	this gets converted or not if it doesn't
1785s	say it gets converted it doesn't get
1786s	converted
1788s	um but uh going going forward new ones
1792s	and uh existing ones that we we will be
1795s	converting over to make it so that they
1796s	do by default get converted
1800s	because it just it's one of those things
1802s	where it's like if you're going to
1803s	convert the skill you probably want the
1806s	sub skill converted to uh and not
1808s	converting the sub skill makes it enough
1811s	of a NBO with uh the conversions that um
1816s	we we don't like nodes that are mutually
1817s	incompatible with each
1820s	other mutually exclusive nodes are not
1822s	awesome if we can avoid
1824s	them um which is something we're trying
1827s	to to Whittle down in
1830s	general that's something to keep an eye
1832s	out for in the
1842s	future
1845s	ooh just have a lot of Weavers well is
1847s	that all that
1853s	was I
1855s	mean adding a bunch of Ward to this
1857s	build might might actually be a good way
1859s	to do
1864s	it it does kind of put a bunch of w on
1866s	us doesn't
1873s	it just after we got a decent one of
1875s	these do we just take it off and just
1876s	slap this on and see if we like having a
1878s	bunch of
1879s	Ward this gives us a bunch of leech we
1881s	have a ton of leech coming from
1882s	everywhere already gives us some
1883s	movement speed which will not be awesome
1886s	to lose but we do have a fair bit of it
1893s	let's give it a shot just see see how
1895s	that
1900s	plays all
1903s	right
1912s	hello current Ward is less than your
1914s	missing Health yeah okay cool um I guess
1918s	we do leech a lot and that might not
1921s	work well for us we'll see
1926s	uh PS5
1928s	when um I mean it's it's definitely on
1931s	the radar at this point
1935s	um it
1937s	is you know uh so so Xbox and
1940s	Playstation are definitely places we're
1942s	looking right now uh to expand into um
1946s	it's not in active development at the
1948s	moment
1948s	but
1950s	um you know we're getting close to it uh
1954s	to to doing that sort of thing
1959s	and normal that runch wre me
1979s	I misread that
1990s	item I really should know what it does I
1993s	think I implemented
2001s	it all right uh console stuff yeah
2005s	console I think the um the work we're
2009s	doing with controllers is is a Prelude
2010s	to that and there's a bunch of work with
2012s	controllers being coming through next in
2014s	1.2
2018s	um uh most notably skill targeting skill
2022s	targeting 1.2 is going to be way better
2024s	on controller uh situations where you're
2027s	like why does my skill Target in a super
2030s	dumb
2032s	way
2034s	um you won't be asking that question as
2036s	much anymore
2040s	hopefully at all
2048s	really oh prend missing
2059s	Mana yeah I read that
2063s	wrong by
2068s	always always do
2072s	that put in here because it is kind of
2076s	nice is it planned to have a cycle once
2079s	every 3 to four months or will we wait 6
2081s	to 8 months for a cycle um I don't have
2083s	a set timeline on what is going to be
2085s	going forward um obviously we want to
2087s	get them out in a regular fashion and we
2089s	want to get it out as quickly as
2091s	possible um but I think what happens in
2095s	at at the end of one point like what
2096s	happens with 1.2 is going to dictate
2098s	that timeline pretty heavily so we'll
2100s	see what
2111s	happens here we go oh I got a second
2114s	roll on the crit so that's
2121s	nice uh these ones yeah T5 sealed it's
2125s	still cool oh come on yeah
2130s	I think having a 3 to four would be
2132s	ideal um I think that would be the like
2136s	if if we could just say what we wanted
2138s	to have happen um that that would be
2141s	what would
2144s	happen but we have to be realistic on if
2147s	we can I think if we can deliver the
2150s	quality of patches that people want in
2151s	that
2153s	time um I think we can do it
2165s	um I think the framework that 1.2 is
2167s	going to set up is really going to allow
2168s	us to do that
2183s	nicely all right after playing a few
2186s	other arp jez recently I got to say
2189s	Ellie is well placed with combat and
2191s	does a great job at leading the player
2193s	into the next Quest or Zone keep up the
2195s	great work at making a well thought out
2196s	enjoyable game thank you very much I
2198s	appreciate
2199s	you uh and he plans to make l a dual
2204s	weapon class like a dual wielding weapon
2208s	class
2210s	um not specifically not specifically not
2214s	um I there's room for it but I don't
2216s	think it's uh top priority at the
2230s	moment I know the uh the model is like
2234s	it's kind of weird being like okay well
2236s	the model has two my character only has
2238s	one what gives you know that's a little
2244s	weird I think resolving that disconnect
2246s	would be would be would be be a nice
2248s	nice
2261s	touch all right taking him down no
2271s	problem getting it done
2278s	okay please if you have a question don't
2280s	forget to put at last Epoch game in the
2283s	question so I know you want me to answer
2288s	it and you know what let's start off
2292s	with a little teaser a little teaser
2298s	tease oh yeah that's a good one okay
2300s	here is a passive node upcoming passive
2303s	node for I believe Forge C question mark
2310s	Paladin it's Paladin I can read it it's
2319s	diny te little preview
2321s	window read a question off at the same
2323s	time
2327s	here
2329s	oh oh here's a question uh one thing
2332s	that is missing in pee2 and Le are
2334s	powerful
2335s	builds uh I'm sure that LE with several
2338s	powerful builds would be played much
2339s	more after all the endgame and Ellie is
2341s	infinite uh so it doesn't make sense to
2343s	limit builds uh do you have plans for
2346s	significant Buffs to help us reach a
2348s	corruption much higher than what the
2350s	meta builds can reach today um uh not
2353s	really i' I'd push back on the uh
2355s	premise of your question quite quite
2357s	heavily um I think there are several
2359s	builds that are very significant
2361s	outliers in the power range that are
2363s	that are very powerful builds um and I
2366s	think we probably have kind of the
2367s	opposite problem where there's too many
2369s	builds that are too powerful uh right
2372s	now um but I mean it's it's kind of all
2375s	relative right but yeah there's there's
2377s	there's quite a few builds in Le that
2379s	are like really really
2383s	powerful um so yeah I I we're always
2387s	looking to add more fun ways to build
2389s	your characters and and new ways to uh
2392s	like explore the possibilities in in in
2394s	different builds and things like that so
2395s	yeah there's going to be a bunch of new
2397s	builds that do pop up when 1.2 goes live
2399s	so there's going to be tons of fun tons
2400s	of fun stuff to experiment with at that
2403s	point uh next question hello Mike with
2405s	the release of poe2 excellent game I
2408s	noticed how much I enjoy last Depot
2411s	crafting system and I've seen a lot of
2412s	Reddit Discord discussion and
2413s	appreciation of Le's crafting system
2415s	looking forward to 1.2 and what's in
2417s	store for the crafting system yeah there
2419s	is some good stuff in store for the
2420s	crafting system too um I think yeah I
2423s	think we we do a lot of really good
2424s	things right and a lot of things that we
2425s	could do better in our crafting system
2426s	for sure I think think there's um let's
2429s	let's put that out of the way and
2432s	we'll keep going um I think I think our
2436s	crafting system yeah does a lot of
2437s	really nice things I think there's
2439s	there's one big
2444s	um I I how say the the flow in our
2448s	crafting system sometimes has
2453s	uh some longer
2455s	plateaus than we'd like there's some C
2458s	there's there's some points where you
2460s	you might hit a like here here's a great
2463s	here's a perfect example here's here's
2465s	like the quintessential example I hit
2467s	this
2469s	amazing uh one and four roll on an
2473s	absolute Max R of the most important
2475s	stat so so the the the number one stat I
2479s	can have on this weapon is 96% increased
2481s	melee attack spe that is the absolute
2483s	best thing I can have on it period there
2485s	is nothing better um
2489s	now a a 96% increased melee attack speed
2493s	and something else is better um but
2497s	that's the best stat so if I go to if I
2500s	if I get a 2 LP death Embrace and I go
2504s	to
2507s	um uh to to to to SL some exalted on it
2511s	and make a legendary out of it um
2513s	there's there's a like even if it's a 2
2515s	LP there's there's a 50-50 shot that I
2517s	get something that is actually
2521s	worse and and this this this feeling of
2524s	your
2526s	your now the item itself in a vacuum of
2530s	uh what that item is when it has 2 LP
2532s	and and how much damage that item does
2534s	when it has 2 LP before it's been
2535s	slammed and what that item is and how
2537s	much damage it does after it's been
2538s	slammed even though it missed the ideal
2541s	AIX roll hypothetical situation the 2lp
2543s	misses the AIC we want we get something
2545s	else it is actually still a better item
2547s	than it was as far as how much damage it
2549s	can deal but because you already have a
2552s	1 LP version that is that has the better
2556s	stat on it that is a better item because
2557s	it has the better stat cuz that one
2559s	perfect stat is worth more than the
2561s	second and third best stat to combine
2563s	let's say but it probably isn't the thir
2565s	the second and third best stat combined
2566s	it's probably more like the uh Fifth and
2570s	10th best stat combined type thing
2572s	because of how how that
2575s	goes um so two mediocre stats do not
2578s	equal one amazing
2581s	stat and so you get these situations
2583s	where you're you're in a 50/50 roll for
2586s	an upgrade or not and you have to you
2589s	have to sacrifice your two most valuable
2593s	items to make that roll and sometimes
2597s	you get an item that's not an
2599s	upgrade and I think I think that's the
2601s	key the key point where the crafting
2604s	system struggles a little bit um and and
2608s	which is the key point that we are
2610s	looking at to improve the system because
2613s	we want to have um we we want forward
2616s	progress to remain it doesn't need to be
2618s	really substantial forward progress um
2620s	and it doesn't need to be like perfectly
2623s	deterministic forward progress but
2625s	forward progress still happening is
2629s	important and so there's a lot of
2630s	different ways We examined having this
2633s	happen ways that you could um where
2636s	you're either like not losing the items
2638s	so like you can um so we looked at
2641s	options for and not this is I'm I want
2642s	to be clear I'm not saying what we're
2644s	doing to the crafting system to make
2645s	changes yet um cuz it's not fully
2648s	implemented and we're still tinkering
2650s	with it and tweaking numbers and
2651s	experimenting and deciding exactly how
2652s	we want to roll out but there's there's
2654s	a few options and ways we've come at the
2657s	problem that I can sort of talk about
2658s	because they're just theoretical
2660s	stuff um so there's there's this idea of
2665s	you can you can kind of make the pro so
2667s	it's You' got your cost you've got your
2669s	LP item your 2 LP item hypothetical 2 LP
2672s	item or three LP items it happens with 3
2673s	LP as well it hurts even more with the 3
2675s	LP ones because uh you're like it's only
2677s	a one in four chance to fail and then
2679s	when it fails you're like really gutted
2681s	and it's an even bigger investment cuz
2683s	you dropped a 3 LP instead of a 2 LP
2687s	um so there yeah there's there's there's
2690s	some issues there um with with how it
2694s	feels and which is arguably the most
2697s	most important thing which is how it
2699s	feels
2702s	um and so there's there's a few things
2704s	you can do you can make the item itself
2706s	the failed
2707s	item you can make the failed item still
2710s	have some sort of value so you you got
2713s	two op1 you slam it it fails it gets the
2716s	wrong stats something that that item can
2718s	still be used for so let's say um let's
2722s	say there's a new
2724s	uh uh how about a new crafting thing I
2727s	um I'm just like thinking of other games
2729s	now so like the the example like say say
2732s	you could Salvage items which you can't
2733s	unless you [ __ ] we're not doing but
2735s	just as a hypothetical example you can
2736s	salvage it and you get a very expensive
2739s	rare crafting material from salvaging
2741s	two LP legendary items this this item
2744s	that you've made legendary and because
2745s	you've salvaged it you get something
2747s	that's really valuable out of it like a
2749s	a rune or something I don't know this is
2751s	I don't if you can tell we're not doing
2753s	this one you like a rune of research or
2755s	a rune of creation if you uh if you sell
2757s	a 4 LP crafted into a legendary
2760s	something I don't know there's having a
2762s	salvage system where the item is not
2764s	completely useless after it's being
2766s	bricked or
2771s	failed he's kind of one option there
2775s	um uh another option you can look at is
2780s	um refund a way to refund or undo part
2784s	of it so let's say you have a 2lp weapon
2787s	and you have the exalted you slam it it
2789s	doesn't work maybe you're just like oh
2791s	no thank you and you just like give me
2792s	back the lp item and like the exalted's
2794s	gone so you just like you break the
2795s	exalted but you keep the item and this
2797s	is kind of what Diablo 2 does um when
2799s	you're making a rune word if it rolls
2801s	bad you can um hell Rune TP scroll throw
2805s	it in the cube and you get the base item
2807s	back and the runes all go poof
2810s	um this lets you reroll Rune words in uh
2814s	D2 which is really important to be able
2817s	to do sometimes um cuz there's a few
2819s	situations where the base is actually
2821s	worth more than the runes going into it
2824s	um like a a spirit Shield that you
2826s	really want the perfect um fcr on that
2829s	four-socket Monarch Shield if it's got
2831s	good stats is um worth more than the
2834s	talal or am going into it by a lot so
2838s	you want like I rerolled tons of spirit
2842s	Shields
2844s	um and yeah so there's and then there's
2847s	there's other options where you can
2848s	increase the determinism of the actual
2850s	crafting process itself um and so those
2854s	those are kind of the three main axes
2856s	that you can you can approach it at I
2858s	think um and there's there's some other
2860s	options too that we're looking at and
2865s	um
2869s	it's It's tricky to get feel dialed in
2873s	really well
2875s	um and sometimes it's a the thing that
2877s	kind of manifests after you've done it
2879s	20 times you know and
2884s	uh so we we have been U that's one of
2887s	the reasons why we've been increasing
2889s	our uh testing duration for patches um
2892s	getting things out to
2893s	CTS excuse me
2896s	sooner um locking down our patch times
2900s	way earlier than before like it's every
2902s	patch for the last like four patches
2903s	we've increased the time where we're
2905s	like okay content lock now before the
2907s	patch we've increased it by a couple
2909s	weeks every single time for the last few
2910s	major patches
2913s	um and it's been very helpful every time
2916s	so we keep increasing it it keeps
2917s	getting better and better which is great
2920s	um I know it's frustrating that like it
2921s	means that yeah there's a little bit
2922s	more time between um patches coming
2928s	out but uh the the game's better for it
2932s	I think overall I think people will in
2935s	the end appreciate playing a better game
2937s	more than playing a worse game sooner I
2939s	I could be wrong about that
2943s	but that's how I feel about it right
2951s	now oh my goodness why am I not
2957s	leeching cuz I'm an idiot that's why
2959s	it's fine don't worry about it sh didn't
2960s	say anything
2964s	um and and yeah we do also I think
2966s	there's there's there's been a lot of
2969s	really good discussion around specific
2973s	uh runes and glyphs and changes to
2975s	existing runes and glyphs that can
2976s	happen as well um and so we are taking
2978s	the opportunity to make some adjustments
2979s	there as well there's I'm not going to
2981s	talk about specifics there at all but um
2983s	there will be
2985s	some uh some new runes and glyphs
2988s	showing up
2990s	and
2992s	um adjustments to some existing ones as
2995s	well like yeah there's there's there's
2996s	Improv m to the crafting system coming
2998s	that I think are really exciting um and
3001s	then there's also you know other things
3004s	for crafting that's happening too that's
3006s	that's kind of going to be a surprise
3007s	and I I don't want to talk too much
3009s	about it but there's there's other stuff
3011s	for crafting that's also
3017s	coming give me a sweet
3023s	sweet I was going to say double Health
3025s	idle but no
3029s	yeah worthless
3032s	anyway yep that's the portal button in
3034s	that other game I've been playing that
3041s	is I do that I try and set my hock Keys
3044s	up the same game to game but there's
3046s	like certain functions that are you have
3048s	like more buttons in one game than
3049s	another and sometimes you so you move
3050s	buttons around and you get
3055s	confused all right how do you feel feel
3057s	about interactive puzzles within Echoes
3060s	of which are not of which are not
3062s	necessarily obvious or needed to
3064s	complete the mission uh but when found
3067s	and completed the player player's effort
3069s	can be
3071s	rewarded
3073s	um I
3078s	think I I think in theory I really like
3081s	it um and I don't know how I'd want to
3084s	implemented in last Epoch and I'm
3086s	assuming this is in reference to
3088s	Poe um which I haven't got there yet in
3091s	poe2 because I am so
3094s	slow
3097s	um maybe that kind of literally I don't
3099s	know why but I could not find movement
3100s	speed boots to save my
3110s	life I feel like I'm running at warp
3112s	speed after the boots I found last night
3114s	oh my God
3117s	um but yeah I think there's I think
3118s	there's room for puzzles I think this is
3121s	one of those
3124s	weird character player
3127s	disconnects that can happen
3131s	um so
3134s	in I I'm going to tell tell a little
3136s	story about uh D and D
3140s	actually uh one of the first campaigns I
3143s	ever ran as a DM for DND
3147s	one of the only campaigns ever I only
3149s	ever done it three times but one of the
3150s	first I guess the second of the three
3152s	that I've done the second one um I I
3155s	created a I got really into the whole
3157s	the puzzle thing I really like making
3158s	puzzles for people to to to figure out
3161s	and not just in
3163s	like uh a d andd concept just like I I
3166s	really like Puzzles um like making
3168s	puzzles and like riddles and things like
3171s	that so I was like oh my god I've been
3174s	given a platform where I can make
3176s	puzzles and riddles for people and
3178s	they're they're incentivized to try and
3180s	figure them out I have a captive
3182s	audience for people to solve my puzzles
3184s	and riddles oh my God yes and I went a
3187s	little overboard on the puzzles and The
3188s	Riddles In A D andd
3190s	campaign um not crazy they like we we
3192s	talked about it afterwards and they
3193s	really enjoyed it but like while it was
3195s	happening I I could see the mistakes I
3197s	had made
3199s	um and I I think the disconnect happens
3203s	when when you
3205s	have characters
3208s	in in a setting where the character is
3210s	really really really dumb and you've got
3213s	players that are really really really
3215s	smart or or the opposite two works but U
3218s	Let's Pretend the players are the Smart
3219s	Ones just to be nice
3221s	um
3224s	and um so so you you're like you you got
3229s	this dumb character who should never be
3231s	able to figure out this puzzle but
3232s	because the player who's sitting at the
3234s	table is really smart they're able to
3235s	figure out the puzzle
3238s	and it's like okay so should the game
3241s	character be able to Leverage The
3244s	Players brain power to overcome this
3248s	challenge not really okay then what if
3252s	the what if the flip side's true what if
3253s	the character in the game is super super
3255s	smart but the player just can't figure
3257s	out the puzzle should the should the
3260s	should like you just roll some dice and
3262s	you're like okay great the my character
3263s	figured out the puzzle cuz my character
3264s	is super duper smart um and then that's
3267s	not really engaging
3270s	gameplay and so there's kind of this
3272s	Dison disconnect in in role playing
3273s	games when you have uh the player
3276s	figuring out puzzles that the character
3278s	doesn't or the character figuring out
3280s	puzzles that the player doesn't
3284s	um and I I it's I think it's much less
3287s	of a big deal in args that that
3289s	disconnect I think that disconnect is
3290s	kind of vanishes a lot in an arpg um and
3295s	so I do really like PU like that to
3297s	figure out myself I don't know how I'd
3299s	best want to implement something like
3300s	that in last Eon um but I think used
3304s	appropriately and used probably
3307s	sparingly it could be a really positive
3309s	experience um and I think we kind of do
3311s	some little things with that like
3316s	um there's nothing nothing seem really
3318s	major it's just like even just like
3320s	individual mechanics in a boss fight
3321s	kind of like lean into that a little bit
3325s	so I I I do think we use it a touch um
3328s	and I think we could use it more very
3330s	successfully if we if we if we did um
3337s	yeah I did really enjoy P the poe1 one
3340s	puzzles that were there um I did I
3343s	really
3344s	liked um trying I really enjoyed doing
3348s	them um without trying to leverage uh
3352s	like invulnerability mechanics or crazy
3355s	uh teleports and things like that like
3356s	actually playing through them I really
3358s	enjoyed that part of them um and I know
3361s	I'm weird with things like that so you
3365s	know all right one thing that is killing
3367s	my enjoyment of poe2 is that let's let's
3370s	try not to be negative well I'll read
3371s	this question out but just in general I
3373s	I like being positive with that sort of
3375s	thing uh one thing that's killing my
3376s	enjoyment of pe2 is that I'm getting
3378s	legendaries I can't use Ellie also has a
3380s	lot of RNG but not to that degree uh any
3382s	plans on making the drops a little more
3384s	class specific in Le next season
3386s	especially for ssf players thanks keep
3388s	up the good work um we don't no the
3391s	short answer is no we don't
3393s	um we right now in last Epoch we heavily
3398s	heavily wait the class specific drops
3400s	for Relic chest and helmet um for
3404s	nonunique items so unique set legendary
3408s	items um do not have any sort of class
3410s	waiting on them um but like for exalted
3413s	which are a big part of your character
3414s	build and character crafting and build
3416s	cra CF in situation we those do go
3418s	through very heavy weighting um for the
3420s	class you're playing already
3424s	um I think there's there's going to be
3427s	uh there's going to be more ways in
3429s	1.2 to uh customize the loot you're
3432s	finding in general um but it won't just
3435s	be a straight it's class locked now um
3439s	but you will be able to um a affect the
3443s	the loot you're getting more granularly
3445s	than you are now um so you'll be able to
3447s	do that if you want better than you can
3449s	now um better is the wrong word um more
3454s	uh to a greater degree than you are able
3455s	to now
3457s	um but it's not we're not just going
3459s	straight class
3464s	locked uh what's your most anticipated
3466s	part of 1.2 the the endgame updates it's
3469s	it's so
3472s	great just know we've been working on
3474s	them for a long time before we saw Poe
3478s	too uh hi will there be an option in the
3481s	future to give the twink character
3483s	experience I'm asking because uh
3485s	experience drops in the
3488s	endgame experience drops theame uh maybe
3491s	you could give it to the two twins oh oh
3494s	oh the the the toms that
3499s	drop
3503s	um I I mean you you when we I think we
3506s	really heavily buffed uh twinking
3509s	characters for leveling process when we
3512s	um removed the level restrictions added
3515s	from exalted items being crafted onto
3517s	legendaries so now when you if you if
3519s	you take an item that has like an item
3522s	level of a zero it gets 4 LP and you
3525s	slap it and exalted on it that has an
3527s	item level uh level requirement of like
3529s	90 previously the the new legendary
3532s	would have a level requirement of 90 but
3533s	now it just keeps its zero level
3535s	requirement so you get the unbelievably
3537s	Mega powerful items for characters that
3539s	you can just cruise through the early
3540s	games um if if you if you like if you're
3543s	building alts and you twink it out lowle
3545s	characters things like that so yeah
3546s	there there's there's a lot of really
3547s	powerful options for it and also now
3549s	that you can
3551s	um gain access to all of your uh your
3555s	your blessings that you've um unlocked
3559s	all all the discovered blessings I've
3560s	not done many of these done each of them
3562s	like once okay there we go
3564s	um so all of these blessings if I
3567s	started a new character and I did this
3568s	timeline one time I'd be able to equip
3570s	any of these blessings at minimum roll
3572s	um so yeah we we definitely have uh
3575s	given a lot of Buffs to twinking
3577s	characters uh we're also changing some
3579s	some dungeon stuff to improve that as
3580s	well um there a bunch of things in the
3583s	leveling experience we're changing at
3584s	the same time so yeah we're doing some
3586s	stuff but I um cranking up experience
3589s	gain is not something we're
3591s	really super on about
3600s	uh have you thought about moving the
3601s	forging system onto multiple NPCs in
3609s	town what have you have you thought
3611s	about moving the forging system
3614s	oh
3618s	no oh that took me way too long to
3621s	get I I think this is I okay so it's
3624s	it's a shot of Huey too I don't
3631s	um I I don't like comparing systems so
3635s	directly like this cuz things things
3637s	that work well in in one game don't
3638s	necessarily work well in another game
3640s	you know um but no uh we haven't uh okay
3644s	we yes we we have considered that
3645s	actually we spent a long time
3647s	considering that um it almost
3650s	happened
3654s	um uh we we decided against it you know
3658s	it's
3659s	it's not um I I don't want to say we
3663s	made the absolute right decision because
3666s	um you know that would mean that there's
3668s	there was never any consideration to
3669s	changing it I don't think that you can
3671s	uh let a game grow and evolve and
3673s	improve with with being closed-minded on
3675s	things like that so so I mean it's um
3680s	yeah all right Mike I've turned on my
3683s	second brain cell woohoo double power
3687s	um and made a rogue casting Smite on top
3690s	my bleed build I could not figure out my
3691s	Smite damage no matter how hard I try
3693s	but I felt okay any plans to develop
3695s	more on Cross class interactions uh
3698s	maybe a ways to see DPS on non-selected
3700s	class skills
3704s	um I
3710s	would can you not see if you hold alt on
3712s	the thing giving you the Smite it should
3715s	show you the DPS that it does because it
3718s	is a class skill and that calculation
3720s	should still
3722s	work um we I I there's definitely a push
3725s	to improve the DPS and and just data
3728s	displayed to the player in general I
3730s	think that's that's which like I know
3731s	pe2 it's new it's hot um so we can talk
3734s	about a lot and that's one thing that
3736s	they do extremely well is the data they
3738s	provide to the player is so complete and
3742s	so well done as far as like the
3746s	like like that's that's that's one of
3748s	the strengths they have I think is the
3749s	amount of data they that they do
3752s	display um and yes that is something we
3754s	are looking to improve is is what data
3757s	we show how we show it
3759s	and uh the accuracy of that as
3764s	well that's been something we've been
3766s	working on for a long time though and I
3768s	think this is um seeing it done well is
3772s	like reaffirming that it is something
3773s	that can be done really well and we we
3775s	knew it could be done really well
3788s	um
3791s	oh no way it hasn't gone off
3798s	yet oh
3801s	boy like I need to turn on my second
3803s	brain cell uh we're not not huge on the
3806s	on the cross class stuff like that but
3808s	uh it's not out of the question in
3809s	general but yes we do want to provide
3812s	better data to players uh do you
3814s	personally prefer monks fantas in
3816s	fantasy setting being more religious
3818s	holy fanatic type or martial artist or
3820s	them being more a grounded in tune with
3823s	nature type of martial artist are both
3825s	considering the possibilities of
3826s	masteries um I if if we're talking about
3830s	like how it would be implemented in last
3831s	Epoch I would much rather see monk as a
3834s	Mastery um of a like uh a a hand toand
3839s	Base Class than I would as monk as the
3842s	bass class with with offshoots on it I
3844s	think I think having it be a Mastery
3846s	would be more interesting than having it
3848s	be a base class
3852s	um personally I really like seeing monks
3855s	focused on uh like like having having
3858s	kind of two sides to it having it be a
3860s	martial arts and the spirituality that
3862s	goes with it um I don't think it
3864s	necessarily needs to be whole holy uh
3867s	theming did you say holy you may not say
3868s	even said
3869s	holy he said holy fanatic yeah I I I I
3872s	prefer spiritual than holy when it comes
3875s	to monk theming personally cuz there's
3877s	there's so many um I don't know maybe
3881s	this is just like
3883s	my stuff leaking in um when I when I
3887s	hear the term holy I immediately go to
3891s	like a Catholic holy thoughts of like
3896s	that the the sort of like we're fixing
3897s	on a single religion here and I know I
3899s	know it doesn't mean that but that's
3900s	sort of like I guess you know like I
3903s	Catholic grandparents so like that's
3906s	that's the religion that comes to mind
3907s	first even though I I think after the
3909s	first time they took me to church and I
3911s	wouldn't sit still they never took me
3912s	again and that was that which is
3915s	great um but yeah
3919s	uh I I I guess that's where I would go
3921s	with it and uh
3927s	I I yeah I think spiritual will be the
3928s	term I would use but I would like them
3930s	to be I do feel like they they need to
3932s	have a spiritual theme to
3934s	them all right hi Mike um I have a
3937s	question regarding shock and chill uh
3941s	they have uh they have such a hard limit
3943s	and don't offer much benefit other than
3947s	uh very few nodes and even less items so
3949s	it feels bad to get them to drop as
3951s	exalt any plans to rework them or add
3953s	more utility um not really we've we've
3956s	kind of we started working in Electrify
3958s	and Frostbite as um more stackable
3962s	damage
3963s	dealing um ailments to go to to to
3966s	complement them a little bit more
3969s	and um
3972s	having there are more things that do
3974s	play off of them and more things that
3976s	apply them and scale off them and scale
3978s	them and things like that that that play
3980s	with them there are things in all of
3981s	those categories that are coming for
3983s	both shock and um uh shock and chill um
3988s	some of those will be in 1.2 some of
3990s	them will be after 1.2
3994s	um but yeah I I I don't think it's a bad
3999s	thing that there are some exalts that
4001s	are uh less exciting to get as the
4004s	exalted affixes than others I think
4006s	that's a good thing where there's like
4008s	some that are
4009s	maybe um you're kind of like ah it's
4012s	kind of useless as it exalted but you
4014s	know it's still funny that it's there
4017s	um and others where you're like oh my
4020s	God this is amazing and I think I think
4021s	having that distinction is is a good
4023s	thing to
4027s	have but then at the same time also
4029s	getting like uh a huge shock exalted AIC
4034s	on like a low-l item
4037s	um uh on a lowle legendary can can be
4040s	surprisingly you functional and and
4042s	strong leveling I think will not take me
4052s	oh what did I just click
4054s	on okay hi Mike all said uh where do you
4058s	stand on new class releases would you
4061s	release one as content DLC expansion
4064s	only any new classes in the works you
4065s	can tease um I mean yeah new we don't
4069s	have any new classes that are uh ready
4072s	for or even like being worked on really
4074s	um we are still in we're still operating
4077s	on our five classes our our five classes
4080s	um we do we we've done some some early
4084s	work on some specific I things we want
4087s	to have added
4089s	to uh to new classes um I I would say I
4094s	have a very good idea on what the First
4097s	new Mastery class will be um I have a
4102s	moderately good idea what the second new
4104s	Mastery class will be
4106s	um I do not know what the First new base
4109s	class will
4111s	be um these are all things that we are
4113s	planning on doing um they're a little
4116s	ways out
4117s	still
4119s	um how they get added like what like
4122s	circumstance they get added in I I do
4125s	not know how we would we structure that
4127s	really
4129s	um I know we're we're really not huge on
4131s	splitting the player base um on
4134s	something like that
4137s	if we can avoid it that is always
4139s	something we try and avoid splitting the
4141s	player base is not
4142s	great
4146s	um have you thought about releasing
4148s	content in pieces instead of one huge
4149s	update feel that would help keep players
4151s	more engage with the game thanks for
4152s	answering love your game yes we have
4154s	looked at that and and most of the
4156s	feedback we've gotten is um I mean we we
4160s	we did a small release of content you
4162s	know and um it's it's not even really
4166s	considered as uh as content by most
4170s	people
4174s	um so I mean the feedback is kind of
4177s	telling us it's not super
4180s	effective um but that's not to say that
4182s	it's a never a gain type thing
4188s	um we are always um looking at ways to
4192s	increase the uh like
4195s	the the productivity of of certain
4199s	pipelines like ways we can make creating
4201s	new content for pipelines faster
4203s	smoother easier
4206s	um
4210s	and uh as that happens as it gets as as
4213s	there like certain pipelines become like
4215s	really fast and easy to add things to um
4217s	it makes it a lot more enticing to be
4219s	like okay we're going to like like oh if
4223s	we can take four people put them in a
4225s	bub
4226s	and they'll be able to pump out like I
4230s	don't know uh two new skills for a class
4233s	and five new unique items and be like
4235s	here's here's like a little mini patch
4237s	of like cool
4239s	stuff um and if we can do that in a
4241s	short period of time or something that
4242s	like might become an option down the
4243s	road it's not really an option right
4247s	now that the same uh Shrine twice that's
4251s	funny stay
4254s	alive stay on t
4264s	good
4266s	woohoo hey one LP
4269s	tree this has got to have been one of
4272s	the most internally controversial items
4273s	in the game I know it sounds
4276s	ridiculous but the illus tree when hit
4280s	to get
4281s	summoned we've been so deeply divided
4284s	internally on what that should look like
4286s	it's so
4292s	funny let's let's pop up another little
4294s	teaser here a little teaser
4296s	tease b boom this is the Paladin
4301s	one wait the last one was Paladin 2
4303s	there's two Paladin things woohoo
4305s	Paladin's getting
4307s	stuff yeah we've been doing a lot of
4309s	work on Sentinel in general um
4317s	hopefully there will be a good update
4319s	for forg guard uh Sentinel General yeah
4322s	here we go Sentinel General is getting a
4323s	lot of stuff so hopefully that'll be a
4324s	good update for Forge guards since that
4325s	is my go-to class there is there's just
4328s	not enough variety on this build and
4329s	they are not that enjoyable on the end
4331s	game maybe have manifest armor to
4333s	consume Forge weapons to deal more
4335s	damage uh I know that this game has the
4338s	potential to be the best much love from
4340s	Philippines what you just described will
4342s	not be in 1.2
4353s	uh hi Mike let's keep up the poe2
4356s	questions after playing poe2 what is
4358s	your main thing you saw there that you
4359s	enjoyed a lot more than Le not saying it
4361s	was bad just that you like it better
4363s	than L OB besides crafting because that
4365s	is
4366s	obvious uh what's the main thing you
4369s	there that you enjoyed a lot more in Le
4371s	okay so thing something I like more in
4372s	Le than in pe2 yeah um I mean yeah I I
4376s	really enjoy our crafting system a lot
4384s	um I I think the I and this is this is
4387s	one of those things that I think it's
4389s	just because I'm so used to it in Le
4391s	because I play so much more of it um and
4394s	work on it all the time and you know
4395s	like it's it's the way the evade um and
4399s	the role uh like cuz ours just kind of
4402s	like just lets you kind of go through
4403s	stuff um and they did they did make a
4406s	huge change and it uh when they when
4407s	they shrink the player size to zero when
4409s	it happens which is
4411s	um and and the the distinction on going
4415s	through people are not with evade a role
4418s	is something we tweet with and and toyed
4420s	with for a very long time and the early
4423s	versions of it that we had wouldn't let
4424s	you go through enemies um and I think it
4428s	was CT feedback that caused us to make
4430s	it go through
4433s	enemies um thanks the time stamp came
4436s	and uh so I think I think
4440s	that's and I cuz I was I remember being
4443s	on
4444s	the very much in the camp of hey it
4447s	shouldn't let you go through enemies um
4449s	but now that after playing with it for a
4451s	long time I think I prefer going through
4452s	enemies so it's um it's a really
4456s	delicate balance thing and I think it's
4458s	one of those things that changes really
4460s	heavily based on what game it's in
4463s	um and I think going to eventually like
4466s	it a lot more in poe2 not going through
4469s	enemies always but just like kind of
4472s	sometimes like going around them a
4474s	little bit with the way they have it now
4475s	basically
4477s	um because I think it fits a lot better
4479s	in their game that way but that's
4481s	something I'm struggling to get used to
4483s	um mostly just think I'm just so used to
4485s	it nly the way it is
4489s	um and I realized I was evading around
4491s	with something on the screen sorry I was
4493s	just doing that for myself um
4500s	yeah that's the big thing for me
4503s	really
4504s	[Music]
4506s	um
4510s	yeah uh will Lizard Tales have a use in
4514s	season 2 I don't think
4516s	so I think that got
4523s	cut I don't know though I'm sorry
4529s	uh tell us what the next masteries and
4531s	classes are without telling us what the
4532s	next masteries and classes are um well
4535s	one of them is going to be for a pretty
4536s	sweet class uh that's going to be a new
4541s	take on the overall
4545s	theme
4547s	um and then another one of them is going
4550s	to hit some new play style
4552s	feels um I can't say anything really
4556s	they they're quite a ways out like we
4557s	haven't started working on them yet um
4559s	the reason I say I know which ones they
4561s	are is because there's there's one that
4562s	we've had planned for years they were
4565s	like this is it like it got cut from the
4567s	it was it almost made it into be one of
4569s	the original Three early on and like it
4572s	just barely didn't make the cut and
4573s	we've like we like okay well if we're
4575s	not doing it now we're going to do it
4576s	later type thing um so it's it's been
4579s	like that forever
4582s	um you know that sort of thing they're
4585s	not I I don't want you to think because
4587s	I know what they are going to be that
4589s	they're going to be that that's it's
4590s	like made any sort of significant
4592s	progress or anything like
4594s	that uh so what are you saying is
4596s	Barbarian Mastery is coming I would I
4598s	would love a barbarian Mastery I think
4599s	it would be a lot of fun um I've been
4601s	playing warrior in poe2 that's the main
4603s	one I've been
4606s	playing
4611s	um which I think has I think it's a lot
4613s	of the same Vibe notes that we'd be
4615s	trying to go for if we were going to do
4617s	a rine
4623s	Mastery I loved playing Barbarian in D2
4627s	it's one of my
4634s	favorites oh I'm just
4636s	getting nuked
4651s	stop moving stop moving okay let's go
4656s	find these
4670s	things uh more questions I can do it I
4675s	am rooot yes you
4678s	are uh in your opinion when adding
4682s	notable new content into the into a game
4685s	uh do you want each new addition to feel
4687s	like a continuation of what you had
4689s	previously been established or do you
4691s	prefer the the content to feel like an
4692s	addition that expands upon existing
4694s	content but adds new
4698s	branches read that one again cuz I'm not
4699s	sure I understood
4702s	it hey kot's cage
4708s	that was one I made for a buddy of
4717s	mine what is this don't want
4722s	that got a little little bump
4728s	there this is why I'm not playing
4730s	empowered right now
4736s	okay can I I been out of combat long
4740s	enough yeah okay good all right in your
4743s	opinion when adding new when adding
4745s	notable new content into a game uh do
4748s	you want each new addition to feel like
4750s	a continuation of what has previously
4753s	been established or would you prefer the
4755s	content to feel like an addition that
4757s	expands upon existing content but adds
4760s	new branches does feel like the same
4761s	thing to me still
4769s	I I don't understand the distinction it
4770s	feels like you're saying do you want a
4771s	new car or would you like a vehicle that
4772s	is four wheels and travels on the road
4779s	um I
4781s	I I think it depends I think if you're
4784s	in a situation where
4786s	it's where this the base storyline is
4790s	like completed and we're talking about
4791s	story content type thing I think having
4795s	um having a new call to action like a
4798s	new a new start of a new hero's journey
4800s	is a good thing
4802s	um I think if we're talking about like
4804s	mechanical
4806s	content
4808s	um I think having it be as tied into
4811s	what's existing already as possible is a
4812s	really positive thing um but it depends
4815s	on the scope there as well I don't know
4816s	I think I think it's the answer is just
4818s	it depends sorry
4828s	yeah yeah sorry I'm struggling with that
4830s	one if anyone does have any questions
4832s	they'd like answered please put atlast
4834s	Depot game in the question so I'll
4836s	answer it I haven't said that in a
4838s	while just cruising with this all right
4841s	let's
4842s	go can I just can I just
4847s	run I'll take
4851s	it I love getting uh the skill Shrine
4854s	node the skill shrines that are a a
4857s	skill you've invested
4859s	in feels
4869s	amazing with you didn't need
4873s	that there's one skill Shrine that
4876s	bothers me so much though still is the
4878s	uh and I think everyone's experienced it
4880s	at this point we I like we know it's a
4882s	problem is the the Phoenix
4886s	uh will we have any engine updates
4887s	before season 2 yes we came extremely
4890s	close to pushing out the engine update
4892s	last week actually um and someone
4895s	someone found a bug at the last second
4897s	and we're like all right hold hold
4900s	um but yeah it's it's it's coming soon
4903s	um I think I think it's going to be
4905s	because the studio closes in uh for the
4907s	last last week or so of December and a
4911s	lot of us are terrible at taking
4913s	vacation throughout the year and we I'll
4915s	take it in December because we're like
4917s	oh like we didn't take our vacation this
4919s	year at all so we're like ah more time
4922s	December um like I'm I'm off right now
4925s	technically um
4928s	and so so yeah uh I I think we're going
4931s	to wait until we're all back in the
4933s	office in in January to to push that
4937s	out uh without giving us spoilers though
4940s	you can if you want
4942s	to uh what new things are are you most
4945s	excited about for season 2 yeah it's the
4947s	so I did this this did come up already
4949s	so I'll keep it short is the it's the
4950s	end game it's the monolith updates it's
4953s	um I think you know the biggest
4956s	criticism we get about last Epoch um
4958s	which is I I I'm not I'm not arguing
4961s	against you at all which I think is very
4963s	heavily reflected in what we're doing in
4966s	1.2 uh is that the endgame can uh
4969s	especially for like veteran players that
4971s	have played last Epoch for
4973s	years you know have uh have gone through
4976s	the end game a few times um they've
4980s	they've experimented with most of the
4981s	classes you know there's there's not a
4984s	ton of like variety of activities to do
4988s	in the end game and um you know I think
4992s	that I that might get oversimplified a
4995s	little bit when being discussed on on
4997s	forums and Reddit and stuff like that
4998s	but you know like it is still a fair
5000s	criticism is that the the end game feels
5002s	a little empty and I think there's uh
5004s	this like
5005s	Behemoth of amazing endgame content that
5007s	it's being compared to which I like love
5011s	that we're being compared to to Path of
5013s	Exile at all
5016s	um is uh it is it is a tricky comparison
5019s	to survive um in in a in like a debate
5024s	situation if that makes any sense
5027s	and
5030s	um so yeah we're we're we're really
5032s	focusing
5033s	on um
5036s	making that debate a lot a lot less
5038s	clearcut you know and um so so we're
5043s	adding a ton of new activities to do in
5044s	the end game and uh you know it's a lot
5047s	of fun having having different stuff to
5049s	do so that's that's what I'm most
5051s	excited about is new cool stuff to
5060s	do okay
5066s	do you know how close uh do uh do you
5071s	know close to how many new uniques are
5073s	in season 2 um the uniques
5076s	are mostly not done yet uniques get done
5080s	quite late in the production timeline in
5082s	compared to other
5084s	stuff um so I don't yet there
5090s	are H there's there's things so I've
5093s	been working on a on a post 1.2 project
5095s	for a while now and there's things that
5096s	we've been I've been trying to add to
5098s	that they keep getting poached for
5099s	uniques in a good way in a good
5104s	way
5107s	um but yeah there's there's there's a
5117s	chunk feel like every time we've done a
5119s	major patch we've added a very
5120s	substantial number of new uniques
5140s	all
5142s	right what did I get oh nice let
5155s	more questions you can do it
5158s	Mike don't give in the temptation of
5161s	playing the video game that's in front
5162s	of
5164s	you oh did I just did I just rip my
5168s	weapon out of my own
5176s	hands and that's like that's how you see
5178s	there's like a lock button that shows up
5180s	next patch and you're like oh we know
5181s	how that happened
5201s	okay what we
5208s	got I was confused there for a second
5210s	cuz I'm like didn't I just do that one
5213s	but I just had an item of the same base
5214s	type in that same third slot for two in
5217s	a
5220s	row don't hate that at all
5229s	though all right um oh I was caught up
5233s	and it was Auto scrolling oh no if I
5235s	missed your question I
5238s	apologize uh do you I answer that okay
5241s	didn't didn't skip any woohoo will we be
5243s	able to utilize aex shards more in the
5246s	future yes uh they seem not that
5248s	important in the endgame since you would
5250s	want a T6 t7 of what AIX is you
5254s	need yes I agree there's there is I
5257s	think there's a um there is a lot of
5260s	uses for them for sure in that you can
5263s	like you you
5265s	are well F first of all we do we do plan
5267s	to add in a an aex uh exchange system
5271s	where you can uh you can be like okay
5274s	I've got
5275s	20 of these aexes that I never use and
5277s	are super common and I've got this AIX
5279s	I've been hunting for and I've got none
5280s	of them um you like exchange them you
5283s	I'll take the loss but you know 20 of
5285s	useless for one of useful is good I
5286s	don't know what the rate would be but
5288s	there'd be some at a loss exchange I'm
5289s	using a pretty extreme ratio just so
5292s	that I don't get people's hopes up cuz
5293s	it it'll probably less than that but I
5294s	don't know what it would be um to make
5297s	to give you more useful AES cuz there
5298s	are some aices that you're like even if
5300s	I just get one tier of it it's
5302s	useful and I think there's some a lot of
5305s	subtleties in the crafting system when
5306s	you're making good exalted items um that
5309s	make AIX is quite useful to have also in
5311s	leveling as well they're very useful um
5314s	there are some more ways we're looking
5315s	to leverage some aex shards I I think
5318s	you'll see those more in future patches
5323s	um I think aex shs are going to shift
5327s	and have been slowly shifting more to be
5329s	a resource rather than an
5331s	item um
5336s	and I think as that shift happens we're
5337s	going to start using them more as
5340s	resources
5342s	um which I think will be a really good
5344s	thing overall cuz as as we get
5346s	more the uh shards were playing the role
5350s	of um universally useful infrequent item
5354s	drops that were not
5358s	equipment um that you would that you
5360s	would see like um like C currency items
5362s	in poe1 and poe2 um they were kind of
5365s	filling that same role a little bit cuz
5367s	we didn't have very many like a very big
5369s	variety of glyphs and runes especially
5371s	at the start when there was like two
5373s	glyphs and four runes that's I think
5374s	what we launched
5377s	with AIC shards were kind of filling
5379s	that role quite a
5380s	lot
5387s	and uh I think I think we are we're
5389s	getting to the point now where we've got
5392s	more uh more shards
5395s	or sorry more uh more we do have way
5397s	more shards um but more glyphs and runes
5400s	and more other items that fit into that
5403s	like uh non-equipment
5405s	monster drop uh exciting item type
5410s	category
5412s	um the the keys keys are the first basic
5414s	version of that but then there's like
5416s	other things that we're adding as well
5418s	um like eyes harb eyes and other things
5420s	that might be coming and so there's uh
5423s	as we get more things in that Cate and
5425s	like more runes and more Shard and more
5426s	glyphs um shards can transition out of
5429s	that role more and more and become more
5430s	of a resource I think um so I think
5433s	you'll start seeing them use differently
5434s	as we go
5435s	forward
5437s	um yeah just just getting the like the
5440s	right um like I think very rarely you
5445s	get multiple exalted affixes of of AES
5448s	you really want on a single item um and
5452s	having the aex having the the shards to
5455s	modify that item to still hit all the
5457s	other things you wanted to do I think is
5459s	really uh really really important really
5461s	positive this go any higher anywhere can
5463s	I speaking of can I do this no
5466s	it's or we're maxed
5477s	out here's an
5479s	example ha I actually really need this
5488s	Beauty I need those shards I need to get
5490s	up higher it's yeah
5494s	like this is this is the exact time
5496s	we're having a an exchange for this
5498s	would be amazing like I would trade I
5500s	would trade 50 Health shards for this um
5503s	and health shards would be a more
5504s	valuable
5511s	one oh I have enough I can do this cool
5517s	uh for the continuation for continuation
5520s	oh this is the um different styles of
5523s	adding new content for continuation
5524s	think of the first episode of a show
5526s	that Recaps what happens last season uh
5530s	and then the new season feels as though
5532s	you're resuming where you left off for
5533s	branches uh sticking with TV reference
5535s	think spin-off show or the general theme
5537s	of the show or there the setting
5539s	Direction content is brand new
5540s	experience I hope that clears up my
5541s	previous statement it does that is a
5543s	fantastic analogy thank you um I think
5546s	my answer still kind of stands though I
5547s	think it's I think both of those are
5549s	valid approaches for different types of
5550s	content I think we will probably
5552s	leverage both in different ways going
5554s	forward uh right now we're probably more
5555s	looking at the continuation aspect of
5558s	things especially for uh the the the
5563s	extra
5564s	um chapter content that still is to come
5567s	so the next chapter will be a direct
5569s	continuation it'll be a last time on
5571s	remember what happened just kidding
5573s	that's not actually what happened it's
5574s	it's almost what happened but here's a
5575s	slight little tweak to the story and
5577s	then we're continuing um cuz we have to
5579s	tweak it a little bit to make it Blow
5581s	nicely into the next chapter but
5585s	yeah um yeah we'll be we'll be a
5587s	straight continuation for a couple um
5591s	three chapters I think
5592s	left question mark there's some new tech
5595s	we've got coming down the pipe that we
5598s	going to see a little bit of in 1.2
5600s	that's going to increase the speed at
5602s	which we can make new uh like Zone like
5605s	area content like
5608s	the we only have a a the level design
5612s	team we have um since day one has
5616s	doubled in size there's now two of
5621s	them it may actually triple there might
5623s	be a third person now there might be
5624s	triple in size but my point is there's
5626s	not a lot of people there so there's
5629s	um we we are we have been working on um
5633s	a lot of tools to make that
5636s	process faster um and just crank out a
5641s	lot like higher quality content for Less
5644s	effort Le that's just faster really
5647s	um and I think uh a lot of the a lot of
5650s	the improvements that have been coming
5651s	down the pipe in that category have been
5653s	very successful um and so we're going to
5656s	see some of that in 1.2 and then we're
5657s	going to leverage that going forward a
5658s	lot to make more content faster
5665s	all right when will we get more be
5667s	support I found I found
5673s	um I thought it was gone it's not
5680s	gone hey I found
5686s	it oh I I'll wear it again sometime
5688s	properly for a
5691s	stream love that thing I didn't I was
5693s	not pleas with the one I made for this
5695s	year's Halloween the the ladybug one I
5697s	thought the the B1 was way better I'm
5699s	glad I found
5702s	it uh I found out this morning actually
5705s	when will we get uh more B support uh
5708s	will there be uh first Mastery be B
5713s	Master uh and know that players will all
5716s	feel sad if you say
5718s	no I'm sorry to make you feel so
5721s	sad I don't think it will be a v master
5725s	um I think we'll see some some new uh B
5728s	related content
5730s	happening um I I can see I know there
5733s	was there was a set item we started at
5734s	one point and then we put sets on hold
5738s	um there's there's been a few other
5740s	things as well I we I I love the be kind
5743s	of started as a meme ended like turned
5745s	into kind of a serious thing and back to
5747s	being a meme thing now
5750s	um that that we've got going on big fan
5753s	and uh I I I think we'll continue to uh
5756s	to lean into it a little bit more but
5758s	we'll we'll see we'll see how that
5760s	manifests specifically down the
5766s	road oh my goodness would you just die
5771s	already make me use my abilities H come
5779s	on all right in my experience with
5783s	different classes hi I'm having a breeze
5786s	uh with getting a ranger spellcaster
5788s	build online rather quick and it is
5790s	quite easy to dodge stuff with Mele
5792s	build I find it quite hard to get
5793s	defenses up at the same time with
5795s	offensive stats any ideas to buff melee
5798s	builds hybrid endurance AIC um
5804s	there's yes uh I I don't I don't want to
5807s	say yes specifically to what you're like
5809s	hybrid endurance aexs necessarily
5811s	there's um
5817s	the whole the whole range versus melee
5819s	consideration is a very important thing
5821s	that we do look at and uh are making
5824s	some changes too in general like just as
5826s	an overarching thing
5834s	um will not take
5839s	me oh one LP s h don't mind if it do I
5845s	really wish my belt had more potion
5848s	slots what I want more potion
5857s	slots yeah our our stash is getting big
5860s	enough that
5864s	we're starting to get a little laggy
5866s	when we open it can't wait that that
5869s	that's that's fixed on M on uh main on
5872s	our uh development brand
5874s	and uh can't wait for that to go
5895s	out nice Health one uh what was I
5898s	talking
5899s	about oh yes melee vers range stuff yeah
5902s	there's um
5905s	getting the
5907s	theming and distinction for melean range
5910s	stuff CU range is just such a natural
5914s	huge boost of awesome when it comes to
5917s	survivability
5919s	um and quite often the what
5923s	dictates
5925s	um the like meta builds are are are
5929s	usually what can do the most damage not
5931s	always but usually
5941s	um so having the like defensive tools
5944s	available
5946s	feel uh feel different and play
5948s	different is is I think really important
5966s	oh come on there we
5975s	go I just saw something that reminded me
5978s	of another crafting change we're doing
5980s	I'm not going to tell you about that
5987s	one you can look through the footage of
5988s	what just happened and trying to figure
5989s	out what reminded me
5998s	it's probably too extreme
6003s	yeah should have known that's what it
6012s	was okay
6032s	hello I just love having uniques to
6036s	change up a build diversity on class
6038s	thanks for doing these on Fridays I even
6041s	on your time off no other game
6042s	developers do that I know of yeah
6046s	um there's
6050s	uh I'm sure there's got to be some
6052s	others that do it
6059s	but I do love doing
6061s	this frequently I I I get told I'm like
6063s	Mike stop doing stuff like this on your
6065s	time off go go have time off and I'm
6067s	like yeah but it's
6069s	fun if if I was if I was in my time off
6073s	and I could stream on my personal
6076s	account anyone would actually tune into
6077s	to that I
6082s	would so I just do here so that people
6084s	will actually listen to
6090s	me thanks I like I like putting up
6093s	teasers April and we looking forward to
6096s	season two just which was sooner any
6097s	Weaver will spoilers they are my
6099s	favorite items there's there is some
6100s	wavv stuff happening cuz I mean we're
6103s	it's it's pretty Weaver focused uh
6106s	patch I should have not tried to go into
6109s	this ah try to catch
6112s	it it's
6114s	okay um it's a pretty Weaver will
6117s	focused patch right now so uh Weaver
6119s	will it's it's a weaver themed uh
6122s	expansion pretty heavily which I mean
6125s	should should be pretty obvious by the
6126s	the um if you haven't seen the info
6130s	on
6133s	um the the road map we just released it
6135s	is pretty heavily Weaver themed
6146s	what did I miss back there oh I got to
6148s	speak with
6149s	him but but I don't like talking I just
6152s	like
6153s	cutting down the enemies of a
6156s	tera
6167s	yes yeah okay um yeah
6177s	we we there's like a couple little
6179s	really important features that we really
6180s	wanted to get into the patch we nudg a
6183s	back a
6187s	touch cuz like we're not putting these
6189s	in without enough time to test
6193s	them and then we're like can we really
6195s	release this patch without this
6197s	feature disappointing
6207s	tricky thing with that is you got to be
6208s	careful you're not doing that forever
6209s	cuz you're like oh I just add this one
6211s	more thing I push it back a week add
6212s	this one more thing I push it back a
6214s	week you got to draw the line somewhere
6216s	and we've had to cut things that I'm
6218s	like I was I'm I'm disappointed we've
6221s	had to cut but I think was very
6226s	wise cuz doing 30 things amazing is
6229s	better than doing 35 things pretty good
6251s	all right more
6253s	questions I'm sure you've already heard
6255s	this but a
6257s	recent still very fun release makes me
6259s	appreciate Le's approach to things like
6262s	crafting and changing build builds even
6264s	more than I already did well thank you
6266s	glad I'm glad you're enjoying last OK
6268s	and and I'm glad you're enjoying other
6269s	games too um we we've been talking about
6272s	poe2 a bunch here and I've I've been
6274s	playing it I've been having a ton of fun
6275s	with it
6278s	um I think it's been really interesting
6280s	to
6281s	see uh cuz cuz it's they are able to
6284s	start with a blank
6286s	canvas is they're they're they're less
6289s	beholden to pee1 than pee1 is to itself
6293s	uh when when making
6295s	changes and um I think it's been really
6299s	awesome to see the different uh
6301s	different ways they've gone to solve
6303s	problems the same problems that we've
6305s	gone to solve
6307s	um when they've
6310s	been um like anchored to
6313s	poe1 or or not when they've when they've
6315s	uh done the same things in po like done
6318s	different things in
6320s	pee2 making any sense there at all like
6323s	they've the same problems in poe1 and
6325s	poe2 and because they're able to start
6328s	from scratch they're able to solve those
6330s	problems in yeah in Poe uh two
6334s	differently than they're able to solve
6335s	those problems in poe1 got it um and I
6339s	think that's been really interesting to
6340s	see especially from the standpoint of
6342s	I'm like i' I've been in a development
6344s	meeting trying to solve this problem I I
6347s	think like and seeing with the what they
6349s	ended up with I'm like I have a pretty
6352s	good idea on how that meeting went
6354s	you know I obviously don't know
6355s	everything but um it sometimes it feels
6359s	like I'm like yeah I get
6367s	it death will not
6370s	take and it's been really awesome i' and
6373s	I've been really enjoying it and there's
6375s	there's lots of things that like we
6377s	consider doing
6378s	ourselves um and we were like we just
6381s	don't have the what the like development
6383s	capacity to do that um or or we decided
6387s	against it for some other reason and
6388s	like I don't know it's been really
6390s	awesome to experience and see and I'm
6394s	stoked for the future of of RPGs in
6397s	general
6401s	uh and and like in our game and po2 and
6404s	po it's all just so great right now I
6406s	don't
6409s	know I can't remember the last time we
6411s	had this many
6413s	like new and exciting things in args
6416s	come out
6419s	ever all right is it a good idea to make
6421s	top level items inevitable to get
6424s	overtime I understand it feels bad when
6426s	you Breck a 3 LP but if it's just a Time
6428s	issue then is it
6431s	rare fantastic
6435s	question oh my God can you go ask this
6437s	question in like every thread talking
6439s	about this online please
6444s	I don't know the answer to
6449s	it I think um but I think it's a really
6452s	important
6454s	point and um I I think it's something
6458s	that gets overlooked a lot
6478s	I think there
6482s	is I don't think having the absolute top
6485s	tier best in slot items being inevitable
6489s	is a positive
6493s	thing um and this is this is part of the
6495s	reason why we've developed our
6499s	um it's just done I'm just walking
6501s	around for no reason um why we developed
6503s	our legendary crafting system the way we
6509s	have um because it gives these
6514s	like the really interesting effects that
6517s	go on these items are the unique effects
6519s	that go on them usually not the exalted
6522s	aices that get added onto them like this
6524s	this this weapon I've got here the
6525s	increased melee attack speed being the
6527s	best in slot aex to go on it
6529s	is it's just a stat bump it's just it's
6532s	a it's extra stats but the exciting part
6534s	about the item is all the other cool
6536s	stuff it does
6538s	and
6539s	um so I think having these items that
6543s	are like having thresholds to
6546s	hit
6548s	um have like a more consistent Forward
6552s	Motion is is really good um but having
6557s	the like the absolute best in slot be
6559s	inevitable so we're talking a um
6564s	like if if you
6565s	could uh what's a good example okay here
6568s	here's if you could take here this gets
6570s	suggested quite a lot on our forums
6571s	Reddit all these places um and I've got
6574s	one more thing to share with you oh my
6575s	God okay we're we're going to put this
6578s	up which isn't going to look that
6580s	exciting at first but I'm going to talk
6581s	about it in a second
6584s	um
6588s	is uh okay so the serious thing that's
6591s	brought up a lot is that if you have
6592s	like
6593s	uh if if you put two zero LP items into
6598s	a uh a combiner it makes a one LP item
6601s	and then you put four one LP items into
6603s	a combiner and makes a 2 LP item and
6605s	then you put eight 2 LP items into a
6607s	combiner it makes a 3 LP item and you
6608s	put 16 3 LP items into a binder and it
6611s	makes a 4 LP item and it's like oh my
6614s	God it's like you you have to get a
6616s	bajillion of these things cuz you're
6617s	combining up the whole way and it's
6619s	basically like you know if you combine
6621s	enough runes together you'll find a Zod
6622s	Rune eventually yeah it's billions of
6624s	them or something I don't know what it
6625s	is um but like yes you eventually
6628s	there's a guaranteed way to get it it's
6630s	going to
6631s	happen um and I I don't think I'm not a
6637s	big fan of that there's this way to get
6640s	this thing that's just inevitable like
6642s	you grind you kill enough bores in the
6644s	forest and eventually you'll get
6646s	there
6648s	that's it feels kind
6650s	of I don't know um
6657s	I think when I when I when I get an item
6659s	from a system like that I don't feel
6662s	excited I feel
6663s	relieved I think I think that's the
6665s	difference and I think I'd rather feel
6667s	excited than
6673s	relieved um oh yeah okay so let's look
6675s	let's look what's on screen right now so
6676s	this is all of the information about
6678s	this node um there used to be something
6682s	on the node that's been removed and it's
6685s	not immediately obvious but let's assume
6688s	for the purposes of this that all of the
6690s	extra information is available there's
6693s	nothing like just hidden cuz we're not
6694s	holding alt or something like that but
6695s	like all the information about this node
6696s	is here everything is here
6700s	um see if anyone's figured out what's
6704s	missing so you're saying there's a
6706s	secret B level oh my God I wish yeah
6708s	there is no B
6710s	level the honey cake is a lie
6713s	[Music]
6718s	nice pause in the future oh that's
6720s	something I've Loved about po2 is the
6722s	pause and we we've it actually works
6723s	internally and we it doesn't work in the
6725s	client online it doesn't work at
6730s	all
6733s	uh CD no CD is not
6736s	missing this this is a node that already
6738s	exists in live and there's um there's
6742s	there's something missing from it so
6743s	there there there's a slight change to
6744s	this node I think the live version of
6745s	the Mana cost is 12 and this version's
6747s	10 that's not what I'm talking about
6748s	there's something else that's been
6749s	removed from this
6759s	node I cheated and looked it
6762s	up I looked it up too and I couldn't see
6765s	it at first
6770s	even see I can Crush through a couple
6772s	Quest here in the meantime cuz we're
6773s	getting close to the end of the stream
6774s	and I've got a
6780s	few answer
6784s	those uh do you think the new engine
6786s	update upgrade will make things like
6789s	persistent
6790s	zones uh no or sound/ beacons and loot
6795s	filter possible at least closer it will
6796s	have zero effect on any of those
6799s	things uh seeing as the season is coming
6802s	in April um will you be doing another
6804s	small event like the Imperial Uprising
6806s	while we wait we don't have any plans
6808s	to
6818s	uh brow 87 sorry I didn't see your
6821s	message got Auto modded and it should
6823s	not have been I hope you weren't Auto
6826s	banned or anything like that just say
6828s	held a message so I assume it's just it
6830s	held the message but you're fine
6833s	uh so you're saying there's a secret
6835s	field no yeah uh have you thought about
6837s	placing useful information in more
6839s	diverse places I mainly thinking about
6841s	how many shards you have showing on
6843s	Crafting window aix's list on loot
6845s	filter Etc
6850s	um uh I I don't think we've done I I
6853s	feel like having the the main place
6854s	where they all are is probably the best
6856s	way but having them in more places would
6858s	be
6859s	nice we need a mic appreciation stream
6861s	where someone else from ESG play last
6863s	and interviews you thoughts yeah I mean
6864s	we've we've been we're trying to get uh
6867s	guests on regularly to have as like so
6871s	it's me and someone else because I know
6872s	you guys hear my thoughts a lot but you
6873s	don't hear other people on the team and
6875s	there's lots of cool perspectives and
6876s	cool things people do and I think it
6878s	would be really awesome to hear I really
6880s	want to get Sam on uh I really want to
6883s	get uh Kyle I've had on a couple times
6885s	I'd love to have him back again um you
6887s	know there there's a bunch of people I
6889s	want to have on um like music art uh
6893s	animation all sorts of cool stuff I
6895s	think there would be some really cool
6896s	streams you could do and we are working
6898s	on that that is that is planned to keep
6899s	going
6900s	forward um and there's going to be an uh
6904s	interview of uh that I'm doing for our
6908s	next
6910s	uh
6913s	monthly a tera monthly um so you'll get
6916s	an interview I'll answer some weird
6919s	questions uh sorry if this question has
6922s	been asked but what happened with the
6924s	whole Primal hunt thing it got pushed
6927s	back uh cuz it was tied to the next
6929s	chapter and the next chapter got pushed
6931s	back because people were like end game
6934s	and we're like
6935s	okay all right I'm excited about what
6937s	you would do on set items oh yeah set
6940s	items I'm I'm really excited for the set
6942s	item
6943s	update uh it's it's
6946s	not like it's going it fits really well
6949s	into the gearing um Paradigm that we
6952s	have
6955s	uh hopefully that will come on season 2
6957s	can we get a tease on what that would be
6959s	um not
6960s	really
6964s	um yeah
6967s	sorry you you'll we'll get some teases a
6970s	little closer it's not implemented right
6971s	now so I I don't like teasing things too
6974s	heavily until they're
6975s	implemented uh are the set changes
6977s	coming in
6980s	1.2 uh as you mentioned testing have the
6983s	delays and changes to timelines impact
6985s	the CT participation um I I think we
6988s	have probably more participation because
6991s	we've had well right now a lot of them
6993s	are playing pe2
6995s	um but there is I like we have we
6998s	already have a CT build out there's more
7000s	going out you know like there's so I
7002s	think we're getting more in
7005s	total pause in the future we'd love to
7007s	do pause oh my God it' be so good uh
7010s	will 1.2 come with a seasonal mechanic
7012s	um um it's it's going to
7015s	have like Define seasonal mechanic uh
7018s	yes or no depending on how you define
7023s	[Music]
7026s	it uh did anyone get
7031s	it a Divine Fury someone said Divine
7033s	Fury question
7034s	[Music]
7040s	mark I'm going to count that as someone
7042s	getting it yes it uh it now uh no longer
7046s	has the alt text that says this node
7048s	does nothing if you've taken Divine
7053s	Fury ell is my favorite airG and my
7057s	biggest bet for the future this game is
7059s	wonderful satisfies my desire to kill
7061s	monsters and pass the time in a pleasant
7062s	way thank
7063s	you uh we're just about done on time I
7067s	want to answer all the questions my
7068s	question about the engine upgrade was
7069s	that you often said in the past that
7071s	persistent zones and sound beacons in
7073s	filters are performance
7077s	issues uh the persistent Zone thing is
7080s	not a per performance issue no I don't
7082s	think I've said that if I did I'm sorry
7085s	uh the sounds and beacons in the filter
7087s	performance
7088s	issue uh that is related
7092s	um but the it's it's not that's not an
7094s	engine problem if that makes any sense
7097s	uh if the engine upgrade doesn't help
7098s	with that can you tell us um if you're
7100s	working on those issues and how advanced
7102s	they are um I don't believe we're
7105s	working on either of those issues and
7107s	they're not Advanced right
7108s	now
7111s	um The Sounds thing
7114s	is it's not really performance issue
7116s	either neither of those are performance
7118s	issues they they do have performance
7120s	concerns but the reason they're not in
7121s	is not because of performance
7123s	problems
7126s	um the the persistent Zone thing
7130s	is um I mean we just we we don't have a
7133s	good way of doing it at
7139s	all um but I mean we were saying the
7142s	same thing about that about procedural
7143s	generation procedural content generation
7145s	for for years um and and that's on its
7149s	way
7151s	so you know
7155s	um other things happening first is
7161s	all can you tell if the set items will
7164s	keep their themes or should I try the
7166s	sets I'm interested in right now the
7168s	sets will uh when the changes to the set
7170s	items um if there's a set you really
7173s	like now um the when the changes to the
7177s	set items happen uh you'll still really
7179s	like the set
7182s	um and if anything you'll just like the
7185s	set
7187s	more so yeah I I wouldn't
7190s	feel pressured to try set items in the
7193s	state they're in now in fear that
7196s	they're going to go that something's
7198s	going to go
7206s	away Oh you mean it causes Divine Fury
7208s	to do nothing no I think in the past
7210s	Siege bar Divine Fury caused Siege
7212s	barrage to do nothing
7217s	right this node oh sorry yeah you right
7220s	so in the past it said this node causes
7222s	divine Fury not to function right so
7224s	Siege barrage no longer causes Divine
7226s	Fury not to function that's the change
7229s	and also two less Mana
7231s	cost so big
7235s	win any plans for wasd movement we would
7237s	love to do Wy movement um wasy
7240s	movement's one of those things that is
7242s	uh it seem it's so deceptively huge of a
7246s	task it is it is a mammoth undertaking
7250s	that is kind of needed to be uh designed
7256s	from the ground up when you're starting
7257s	the game which is why po2 has it cuz I
7260s	think that when they started making it
7261s	they're like we're going to put wasy
7262s	movement in and they designed their
7263s	whole movement system to to work with
7265s	wasi even the like the mouse movement
7267s	you can see the influences of wasi
7269s	movement on the mouse movement um like
7272s	if you're if you if you shoot something
7274s	in One Direction and then you click
7276s	behind your character he'll actually
7278s	walk backwards for a little bit first um
7281s	which is which is is fantastic
7285s	um
7286s	and but like I that feels like it stems
7290s	from Wy movement being a thing in the
7292s	game and
7295s	um so like the
7298s	the we have to change a lot to to make
7301s	Wy movement work like a lot a lot a lot
7305s	and um
7312s	I I we we'd love to put it in I don't
7314s	want to get anyone's hopes up on like
7316s	time frame or if we're doing it or
7317s	anything like that it's one of those
7319s	things where we're like if we had a
7320s	magic wand and we'd be like while the
7322s	it's in we would but we don't so it's
7325s	not yeah uh last few questions you
7329s	skipped my question about placing AIX
7330s	count in more diverse places like the
7332s	crafting screen itself or the aex list
7336s	for loot filter sorry I didn't mean to I
7339s	don't like this this number
7343s	placing count in more diverse places
7345s	like the crafting screen itself or in
7348s	the AIX list for loot filter I mean okay
7349s	in the AIC it's in it's in both those
7351s	first two places but not it's in the
7356s	it's the count is here so it's in it's
7358s	in the crafting screen and it's in the
7361s	materials list so it's right
7364s	here and
7367s	then you want in the loot filter itself
7370s	oh yeah yeah okay I think that would be
7372s	good place to put it
7375s	um yeah tying into that data is not
7380s	terrible put in the suggestions forums I
7383s	know you know the
7386s	drill uh well having a full set make us
7389s	glow like super
7390s	[Laughter]
7392s	saiyan I don't think so I think that was
7394s	a really cool thing that D2 did um where
7396s	like where the sets were like six- piece
7398s	sets made you glow things like that that
7400s	was awesome um we're putting a little
7402s	less emphasis on large complete sets um
7406s	so I doubt we'll do that
7409s	um I I would love to see some little
7412s	subtle effects like that I think I'd
7413s	prefer the effects to be more specific
7416s	per set so like having um some set
7420s	that's like based around some Minion
7422s	giving a visual effect to that Minion or
7423s	something like you know something like
7424s	that I think it more prefer specific
7426s	effects per full set bonus as a thing if
7429s	it was really tied into a specific thing
7432s	uh any plans to make static difficulty
7434s	content uh be able to give competitive
7437s	amounts of favor as monoliths so players
7440s	aren't discouraged by the opportunity
7442s	cost of not spending that time in
7446s	monoliths oh like like uh like Dungeons
7449s	giving a bunch of favor or something
7450s	like that yeah I I I I think that's a
7453s	great
7458s	idea we need was I
7464s	do you do you have a good 3,000 Dev
7467s	hours you can help us put that in for I
7469s	don't know how long it would take
7471s	but
7474s	yeah uh I I I think it's the like the
7478s	the development time for wasy movement
7480s	is so vastly
7482s	underestimated it's it's it's animator
7484s	time that we need the most of for that
7486s	it's like it's like our entire animation
7488s	team needs to take two patches
7490s	off which which would be devastating for
7492s	all the content we try and
7497s	add all right uh what
7500s	about do you prefer playing with camera
7502s	smoothing on or off it so depends I
7504s	usually turn it on and then every once
7507s	in a while I'll turn it
7510s	off uh depending on the game but talking
7513s	about last do do we have camera
7515s	smoothing in
7517s	last I don't know we do
7523s	doesn't look like
7524s	it uh what about large low-level sets
7527s	that look like
7529s	Z that would be sweet I I don't think
7531s	we're planning on that
7536s	either
7538s	uh uh toxic I do not
7543s	have uh any if you if you
7546s	haven't if you can't get through to
7547s	support send them a new message um
7552s	I I know it's not intentional I know
7553s	they've been replying to everything
7554s	that's come in there might be something
7556s	like getting lost somewhere along the
7559s	lines uh you can try messaging mod mail
7561s	on our Discord as well um but I can't
7563s	help you with any support stuff I'm
7566s	sorry
7572s	uh and Kane's got better information
7575s	than I do right afterwards thanks Kane
7577s	um yeah there's I guess a ton of awesome
7580s	stuff coming .2 uh I'm really excited
7584s	for it I wish I could talk you about all
7585s	the details there's certain things that
7586s	are on the edge of getting cut or added
7588s	right now based on if we think we can
7590s	get them done or not in time um it's a
7592s	huge process and uh I'm really excited
7595s	to share it all with you I hope we have
7597s	even more awesome stuff to share next
7599s	time I hope we have a new guest next
7601s	time
7602s	um but I'll be back I I uh I had fun uh
7607s	what is it I hope you had fun I know I
7609s	did I'll be back same time same place
7611s	next week and if I miss your question I
7614s	apologize it was not intentional please
7615s	head on T Discord ask the devs channel
7618s	um always a great place to leave
7620s	questions I'll do my best to answer them
7621s	quickly there's tons of helpful
7622s	community members that answer them as
7624s	well if I'm not around
7626s	and
7628s	yeah that's I think that's it for
7633s	me we're just going to
7642s	[Music]
7643s	let's let's go let's go talk to this
7645s	person oh is a fellow Canadian looks
7648s	like
7651s	streaming oh yeah hey
7655s	bud
7660s	uh uh yeah I had a ton of fun today this
7663s	is a good stream we'll see
7665s	you drink lots of water
7680s	[Music]
7684s	here oh I didn't die

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