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What I mean by this is that champions like Master Yi, Kai'sa, vayne, and some others are able to abuse this item and turn a powerful snowball into an unstoppable one.

If a yi gets a few kills and gets his duskblade once one person is dead, you're not going to see him for the rest of a fight since he'll either be in an enemy, or he'll be invisible since he got a kill. It really turns champions from powerful snowballers that you can counter by waiting for abilities to end to truly unstoppable hyper carries that have only a few seconds of targetability in a fight.

I really don't know how to deal with this item especially on champions who really aren't meant to be able to use it.

Really we *need* better ADC mythics since they all feel so weak (or atleast thats the impression I get, but I'm not really an ADC player) because right now it makes more sense to take lethality items on just about any ADC.

Its much more of an issue for champions who already have a lead, its kidna whatever if you're not ahead an you buy it but once someone has it there's really no way to shut them down if they have gold. Atleast with mejice if you kill them they lose stacks, with duskblade if you kill them they don't really lose anything

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almost 4 years ago - /u/RiotRayYonggi - Direct link

Originally posted by czartaylor

ad is incredibly strong right now, and it's largely because all of the mythics are insanely good. Especially galeforce and kraken slayer, but shieldbow is almost as much of a problem too.

Duskblade is an annoying item, but functionally, it's a win more item. It's a mythic that provides way lower damage than other options for a utility passive that just isn't that useful. It looks incredibly unfair when ahead because it turns a snowballing champion nearly unstoppable, but doesn't actually do much to get you snowballing in the first place.

Khazix is the exception because it does actually give kha a ton of damage by resetting his passive and it synergizes incredibly well with what kha is already going (invisibility synergy, insanely low cooldowns, highly reliant on low kill time assassinations and resets).

Basically it's the mejais of ad mythic items. Looks insanely good when you're snowballing, and has specific unfair interactions (yuumi) but overall has a crippling enough weakness that it's not that good.

Big agree with this guy's/gal's points. Kha'Zix is obviously an abuse case cause stealth has special synergy, it's likely we will need to tune Kha to accommodate before season starts.

almost 4 years ago - /u/RiotRayYonggi - Direct link

Originally posted by Zatch_Nakarie

Funny enough it is worse for kha than previous season. It no longer can be reset with his ulti. It's an okay mythic but the others grant you so much more damage that it's only a win-more mythic.

It's interesting because instead of giving you more item damage procs like the old one (you could proc it 3+ times vs one target), it instead gives you more passive procs through more stealth in multi-target engagements. Hard to tell which is more helpful, but considering Kha is the only Lethality champion still out of line, it's likely its a him problem and not an item problem.