[2021] Quick Gameplay Thoughts 12/3: Event Mission Points

Originally posted by Phaazed

It is intentional. They've tried in the past to make the pass take longer. This is just the latest attempt to do so.

We've converted general objectives for some missions based on the average 30 minute PvP Summoner's Rift game.

Riot knows the average game time is less than 30 minutes. This change is just to make people play longer for the same rewards. Their goal is to make the progress slower without most people noticing (greatly reducing the speed for players who played ARAM/Featured/TFT/vs AI.)

Originally posted by SelloutRealBig

If you AFK enough TFT games it puts you in special AFK lobbies where everyone else AFKs. Which then lets you get free wins by just playing... anything.

Originally posted by Luminite204

They have heavily nerfed the overall number of tokens you can get from token bank missions, the overall value of the pass has obviously gotten nerfed,

Originally posted by Phaazed

I know that there is close to no change if you only play normal/ranked summoner's rift. Your intent is choosing the most popular and longest mode to be the baseline at the expense of other modes.

If this were truly a change to help "even out" the play time of everyone, you would have found a middle ground between shorter ARAM games and longer SR games.

Right now the only people who benefit from this change are the few outliers who lose repeatedly in long games. Far more people are hurt by this change making them play significantly more, just because they play ARAM or the featured mode.

Originally posted by sahkuh

We've also added TFT AFK checks for League event missions.

They say the AFK check is for League event missions, but didn't specifically say Token Bank. I'm hoping that we can still AFK in TFT to grind tokens since I don't have the time to play 3-4 games a day to play SR/ARAM. If that's the case, this will be the last event pass I ever buy.

Originally posted by TheAbyssalSymphony

see this is a good change, but it doesn't change that for people playing SR this change is a net loss

Originally posted by Phaazed

You're misunderstanding. I'm speaking relative to how previous passes worked.

For example let's use the play 30 games mission.

With the previous system ARAM took about 570 minutes of in game time to complete this (30 games x 19 minute average). Now it takes ARAM players ~47 games to meet the higher 900 minute requirement.

SR doing that same mission previously took 900 minutes (30 games x 30 minutes), so this is unchanged here. This is why a Rioter is only lying by omission saying that it won't take longer for most players. Yes, most players played SR. But this still is just a nerf to other modes being reframed.

The change is being billed as "everyone will spend the same amount of time" which is true, but the amount of time needed is the previous slowest mode. The only people who benefit were outliers who consistently ran long games (and lost more).

Originally posted by DrakeAcula

So now i need 100+ games of coop instead of 30 to finish the the orb mission, not to even mention the other missions, and the system isn't even better for the people playing regular games. How f**king disgusting.

Originally posted by ScoopJr

/u/Rovient

Care to elaborate?

Originally posted by AttackBacon

I'm really disappointed in this reply.

I've been playing League since early beta. I'm 35 with a young kid and an intense career. I really enjoy CoOp as League is one of my favorite games but CoOp is the only format that is low stakes enough for me to reliably be able to play it anymore (both psychologically and practically). This change essentially means the passes are no longer an interesting purchase for me.

I understand that CoOp is not a priority for the team, but there are a lot of people that enjoy it. I'm sure your own metrics attest to that. Not everyone in there is simply there to grind. Being relegated to second-class citizen status after spending years in League (not to mention thousands of dollars) and then having a Rioter make this post is pretty lame, I must admit.

Originally posted by BioIdra

'I certainly meant no respect' is the best Freudian typo ever here