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HER ULT IS GLOBAL?!
HER ULT IS GLOBAL?!
Uh oh. That seems like a mistake.
The E is freaking broken.
Agreed. We had to fix so many bugs.
Unclickable means your icon won't even show on the minimap right? gonna be broken for getting vision if so.
Icon still shows up. You can see their location while they are wraiths.
Looks like a fun champion to play! Cant wait
UwU
Oh boy :3
ohh.. YES!
FROM FOUNTAIN TO FOUNTAIN!
You didn't expect anything less from our beloved balance team, right? xD
This wasn't the balance team's doing :3
Do you know who the wraith is even if you can't click on it, at least? Because it is absolutely bullshit broken if not, and will be 100% P/B until it gets removed.
nope! IT COULD BE ANYONE (except Senna)
Are they targetable, do they take damage?
They take damage, they can't be clicked on but they can be hit by skillshots and AoE. You can also reveal them by going next to them (it's camo)
Can't wait for Reddit to complain a bunch about her
same
Wait, so whats the purpose then?
You can click them, you can see them as wraiths walking in it, and you can even make out who is who by looking at the mini map?
Also, the caption says it is not clickable (which means not targetable, right?).
Edit: He edited his comment... before it read: "yes, and yes ...", kinda bad attitude to just ninja edit /u/RiotAugust .
oh sry fixed the post. They are "hittable" but you can't click them
How do channeling abilities like Fiddle W and R work alongside it? If the R is cast does Fiddle appear straight away or is he invisible with the ult?
Also, what happens if you have Senna with her cloud on top of a chanelling Ryze ulti? Does everyone go invisible after the realm warp or is it instantly gone?
Channels uncloak you (as do spell casts), but if you cast fiddle R INTO Senna E, then it will cloak him after the spell goes off.
Does she comes with aspirin? After all the headaches Akali shroud cause you guys go and come up with this
i'm less worried about this. It's essentially camo where you can see their location. Jumping on a wraith or dropping a pink ward will reveal them. Very strong vs. ranged champs who click on you though.
Uh oh. That seems like a mistake.
its actually supposed to affect champions in other games, not this one
Sounds like its just camo but instead of invisible until close you have them be a wraith until close for lore/visual reasons? Would a pink ward reveal them?
Yes
Will wraiths have like a special icon or will you immediately know who the wraiths are from the minimap?
Special Icon
she definitely doesn't seem to scale like a normal ADC. Im sure you build full lethality on her as her auto attack animation looks terribly slow to be consistent burst. Shes pyke 2.0
She deals reduced crit damage and scales pretty poorly with attack speed.
Is her ult a large AoE that can be placed anywhere or is it one long beam that goes from her to the end of the map (like a global lux ult)? I can't really tell.
The latter!
My question is how long do allies stay in wraith form when they leave the mist? Does the enemy need to see the mist to see the enemy as a wraith?
Because in my mind I envision Senna using E while RekSai is in the jungle, and then Sai walks all the way to mid lane as a wraith. Like do we need to see them enter the mist to see them as wraiths?
It's a short-moderate duration. It's not like Twitch Q.
That ward target Q is JUICY
Yeah, that's definitely one of the funnest things you can do on the character IMO.
Everyone saying “ult global omg broke”. But bro her E is a moving Pyke/Twitch stealth which can probably hide the entire team, until they attack or the stealth ends. That’s what is going to be op.
The enemy can see the wraiths/Senna circle the entire time, the champions are fully revealed at the same range as camo.
Time to KSupport
e: Real talk, not sure how much I like gaining crit chance conceptually until we see the numbers. Didn't they get rid of 1% crit chance runes for a reason?
She gets free crit chance but all of her crits deal less damage than other characters' crits. What this does is say "hey, you actually get less value out of building crit items than other characters" which makes her damage less spiky, particularly late game.
This is one of the most broken kits I have ever seen. They took akali and made her ranged. They will be balancing her for the next year and beyond. If the numbers aren't trash tier she will be played heavily in mid and top.
This whole champion design team and a balance team need to be fired.
Would be surprised to see her top because she basically roots herself when she autos for the first half of the game.
Am I crazy or does it look like she has cait aa range..?
She gets infinitely scaling attack range oOoOooHhhhh
I'm confident the unclickable portion of it is gonna be removed within a few patches after she hits live
Bet
So she is strictly a support and isn't viable ADC?
If that's the case it'd be a little sad because it is so hype to finally get a proper lucian Q back... only be forced in the support role. It was so sad when lucian Q got nerfed. So much skill cap just shaved off a champion. It's a fun champion but it'd be lying if I said I'd prefer a normal support, supporting me rather than a wanna be marksman. This preseason is going to be "interesting" with all of those ezreal, ashe, lucian, senna, literally anything in the support role.
I'm pretty confident both can be played. My personal suspicion is that ADC is stronger than Support actually.
She has an extra AD ratio on her basic attacks, gets free crit chance, and deals less crit damage. What all of these things do is give us levers to manipulate how strong she is at different phases of the game and with what itemization. If she had the exact same scaling as a regular ADC, you'd probably just play her there by default because she'd be an ADC with a whole bunch of powerful utility. The current levers and tunings say "you have a pretty powerful early game, but need to snowball early to push your lead, because your peak won't be the same as a 6 item Tristana". Draven/Jhin are comparisons I would use to her AD right now - punchy and lethal lane phase, fall off a bit later, have trouble dealing with tanks. But her laning phase is definitely strong with a tank support, you have a Nautilus hook her -> Senna W and it's looking pretty lethal.
If she's too strong/weak in one role or the other, there's a bunch of things that the designers could decide to do to adjust that.
Oh interesting to hear straight from riot. I'm assuming the IE would interact normally though right?
And like I said, I'm holding off the bulk of my judgement until I see the numbers. I just don't want to magically lose trades in lane due to her landing more crits than she should
The way the math works IE gives her less bonus crit damage than other characters.