[2022] Riot Phlox: A sick Navori Quickblades change

Originally posted by Aaron1997

Does the passive increase Kog's W damage?

Originally posted by Avantel

Any chance of changes to Sivir to make it work better on her?

Historically, she was always a big caster ADC, and was a main user of the pre-sheen ER. Or is the mini Navori passive on her ult the main replacement for that?

Originally posted by ThisIsSnake

Hey Ray, very cool change IMO. 2 Q's if you don't mind:

Do you think Trynd would still build this, and any intentional design reason why/why not this time around?

I asked in the other thread, but are there any other crit/on-hit item changes coming on up that you'd like to tease?

Originally posted by 2th

You mention Corki as a Crit Spell user...He isn't really a crit builder currently, so does this mean you guys are trying to push him more that direction than his mixed builds?

Originally posted by Aaron1997

Does Impermanence increase just Base Damage of the ability or Base damage + AD/AP Raitos?

Originally posted by LostConscript

Does it require 3 items total or just 60% crit? Do you think it could be abused by Yone?

Originally posted by nonamejew

But he only needs 20% crit to have 60% with full fury?

Originally posted by 2th

Out if sheer curiosity, are there any plans, or even ideas, to give Corki some crit scaling on his spells? I've been a proponent of crit Corki for years because he absolutely shreds anyone squishy late game with shrapnel and sorc shoes, and having some crit scaling could make the crit build even more appealing.

Note: I know this is wishful thinking, but I gotta try.

Thanks for responding to my previous question!

Originally posted by Gilbo_Swaggins96

So what's the appeal of making the whole 'attacks reduce non-ult cooldowns by X%' try to work? Speaking as someone who remembers the old Spear of Shojin too well, I really can't see this returning to the game and being balanceable in any way. Regardless of what delays/conditions are put on it.

Originally posted by Tuxxmuxx

Could maybe make a Crit ezreal build viable? ER + QB + Mythic

Originally posted by ski4urlife

Was mentioned in a different comment that this doesn't work with Ezreal

Originally posted by ski4urlife

Yeah, misread your original comment that said it's not as good as IE. Thanks!

Originally posted by neyshus

Unreleated to this but why is the window for pinging enemy wards so long? 10 seconds is too much. Imo it should be that if a ward goes into stealth it is no longer pingable.

Originally posted by shrubs311

are you guys concerned that people may not know the difference and buy it "improperly"? for example you stated mf above would be a good user - off the top of my head i don't know if q damage would benefit from this change.

Originally posted by leagueoflegendsdog

Does it work on Lucians R? This just sounds like something Lucian would love and a 20% dmg increase to his ult sounds bonkers.

Originally posted by haram-enjoyer

I’m trying this with spellcaster Jhin 😒. Minefield in the botlane.

Originally posted by LitCorn33

Wouldnt Lucian crit build be kind of op though, that buffs everything about his kit including the R ( amount of bullet and now actual dmge scales with crit too !)

I mean it's preseason afterall, it's the right time for that, its cool that this item gets changes because it's been pretty much unused since its very release.

This preseason looks pretty massive, lot of item changes I like it

Originally posted by Excalidorito

Does Trynd’s innate crit chance not work with this Navori, then?

Does this also mean Yas/Yone would also need 2 whole crit items first or does their crit interactions work differently?

Originally posted by dance-of-exile

Just curious as to why it's exclusive with IE. Is it because the combo would do too much damage? Or is there some spaghetti code holding you back from making it non-exclusive.

Originally posted by LagOutLoud

Do you actually think that this is enough for the ADC role? 0 new items in the two years since the item rework and only this 1 item change in the preseason for the role with some of the most static build paths in the game? How is that healthy for the role and what are you doing to try to keep players interested in playing if there's nothing new to be excited for.

Originally posted by sephrinx

• Your abilities deal up to 20% (crit scaling) based on crit strike chance, likely something like 4%-8-12-16-20% (4% amp per 20% crit chance).

HI can you please explain this a bit? I'm so confused what this is supposed to mean. Thanks!

Originally posted by TheKill3rBeaver

Any plan on potentially letting Senna buy this new Navori via her passive, or is she gonna also have to buy 60% crit with everyone else?

Originally posted by SocialistScissors

ER Navori double crit cloak. Or Navori triple crit cloak.

Calling it now, something (either Lucian or quickblades) is going to get nerfed because of one of these 2 builds

Originally posted by KeroseneZanchu

Any opinions on potentially making Energizer a more viable build archetype and not just a handful of different effects that just happen to share the same mechanic?

As it stands, Fleet kind of synergizes because the movespeed lets you stack it slightly faster but it's not really impactful enough to be worth taking on many of the champs who would like it for the Energizer portion, and instead is taken simply for the sustain. RFC helps a lot and is probably the most on-brand but because the other (only) two components are weak it's really only used as a general utility item. Stormrazor is very basic but very solid but is generally just too weak to be worth it atm.

Bringing back Statikk Shiv (for waveclear and teamfight damage) and/or another Energizer item, and making stacking Energy beneficial (maybe it increases how fast they charge?) would give a lot of champs like Caitlyn, Jhin, etc. a good alternate build path for their pokey and less DPS-oriented playstyles.

Originally posted by Fabiocean

How does it work with spells that can crit on their own while still counting as spells, like Zeri W, Samira ult etc? Do you get double benefit on those?

Originally posted by dance-of-exile

I see. But does it have to be exclusive for it to be an alternative? I assume it has to be exclusive otherwise a majority of crit builders would build both, leaving really only 1 slot for different items apart from changing build order.

But even currently navori full crit has the highest dps out of any build on champions who’s kits flow with aa’s like xayah or lucian but is not built due to how expensive it is and the lack of utility/defence the build provides. So is it really necessary for it to be exclusive?

Sorry i just really like big damage numbers

Originally posted by Threshwillrise

Would the cap being at 60% be too much? I feel like even if you're Varus charging a full WQ on a blighted opponent, just 12% on QR (do blight procs count for QB ?) might not make up for the lost damage from IE (I mean, not that you'd ever go crit atm bc our magnificent lord and savior, AP Varus, and on-hit being just plain better than crit rn) Though I guess that's what pbe is for. Love that lost items are getting a touch-up !

Originally posted by sephrinx

Ooohh ok gotcha. So it adds additional damage to your spells (not ATTACKS - Just abilities) based a percentage of your crit chance?

Does this apply as an "on hit" effect? Just curious how this is all going to work. Seems interesting though. Would love this if it were to apply to both his on Xayahs Q for example.

Originally posted by bobbybobsen

Any considerations that GP now has one less AD/Crit item to build, and likewise for other crit champions that don’t want AS? (Before you hit 100% crit with prowlers by buying Collector, LDR, IE, Essece Reaver and Navori)

Originally posted by Stillframe39

Cool change for sure! What have playtests with this on Samira looked like?

Originally posted by tmb--

This is an item that gives Tryndamere a lot of agency and ability to function in today's meta. By effectively removing this from him, is there any plan to give him a look over if his winrate drops as a result?

Originally posted by Mortally_DIvine

Just throwing my two cents out there:

It's a little unintuitive to create new language 'must have purchased 60% crit chance...'

When other thresholds for efficacy (warmogs / HP) already exist.

Is there any thought or concern with the continued addition of new language / exceptions?

It's very easy to end up with a mess of spaghetti, and I think that that is something that should be considered.

If you have thought about this, I would love to hear them!

Originally posted by Psychout40

Considering Rabadons is supposed to be the AP version of Infinity Edge, are there thoughts about creating a second counterpart to it, much like this?

Originally posted by _Trixrforkids_

How does the interaction work with Viego and Master Yi who both have kind of a psuedo double hit?

Originally posted by Psychout40

Do you think a Shiv that was more similar to Luden's (in a smaller area, rather than a chain) would differentiate it more from Runaan's? I really enjoy the theory behind Energized builds, but they've never seemed practical.

Originally posted by Cosmic-Warper

W bounces don't count as a spell for navori damage?

Originally posted by FearTHEReaper01

How much of a concern was Tryndamere when remaking this item?