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Yes of course, they post the occasional comments and their presence increased slightly after the disastrous launch of the season
but this is nothing compared to peak Riot back when Rikney was in charge
this is what it used to be:
External link →Yes of course, they post the occasional comments and their presence increased slightly after the disastrous launch of the season
but this is nothing compared to peak Riot back when Rikney was in charge
this is what it used to be:
External link →why hello there
Should we bring back AMA's? They sort of faded away because we focused on doing the insights article for champions and dev blogs for features which can get localized into all languages for all regions. But it's not much of a conversation. Reddit AMA's are very NA-centric. Doesn't mean we can't do them, we just want to make sure they're actually worth it.
Some of the reasons already mentioned are perhaps why some Rioters don't respond much on Reddit, but also, this community is very active and often yall respond to each other with answers that we might. In addition the conversation here can move on VERY quickly, where unless we comment super fast things get buried. It's also not a great format for debate or go back-and-forth so it tends to be a one response kind of thing.
But trust we're here and read and appreciate your feedback. Except about Yuumi those posts we just filter out /s
We're still around :)
I'm kinda new to posting around here, but Riots engagement with the community was one of the reasons I wanted to join up; so now that I'm here I'll try and do my part to keep the tradition going.
Here are some of the reasons I don't comment more often:
And since this is as good a place as any to make my official introduction:
Hi everyone!
I'm Riot HuntedFork and I work as an engineer on the Behavioral Systems team. I'll be around sometimes, say hi if you see me :)
thanks for reply and intro, might as well throw in 2 questions while we are at it, Im assuming Behavioral Systems Engineer work with systems like Surrenders, Toxicity Detection, Pings etc.
correct me if I am wrong ofc if that doesn't lie in your field of work
now that pre season changes has been up for some months now
-do you believe the objective vote succeeded in its aim? or it just became a redundant system feature?
-Was the new ping wheel successful? Do you guys somehow measure/evaluate its usage? from my personal experience, only bait ping seems to have become mainstream and definitely not for its intended purpose lol
Pretty close!
We do all those things....except pings. I don't know anything about those two features except in my capacity as a player. The guy who designed them used to sit next to me, if I see him tomorrow I'll ask.
Aside from AMAs, I feel like we do comment here and there. Its purely voluntary to engage on social media so you'll probably only see a select few people (especially the ones that engage often), but they are definitely there. One thing I will say is that we read EVERYTHING here, even if we don't comment on it.
I still lurk looking for fixable infrastructure issues…
Oh hey you’re on the Behavior team! Can I ask a question?
Do streamers get special treatment? Recently SoloRenektonOnly has been a real swell human being in his games :)
Streamers don't get special treatment. Most of our bans are automated and the rest come from ticket reports. Neither system cares how many followers someone has.
The only exception are the creators in the League Partner Program. But that special treatment is more like extra scrutiny and isn't a hall pass or anything like that.
So if I write a fanficton with Singed and Heimerdinger you would read it?
I did say everything...
Hello Mr riot, which team do you work in?
So we can properly assault you with a barrage of aggressive criticism 🫡
everything league game design except ranked queues/player behavior/skins
I mostly just comment in the LOR subreddit since that’s the game of ours I play most often. But if me bringing my memes and sh*tposts here would spark joy, I suppose I can make a point of responding “OK” to anything involving Rammus.
Aside from AMAs, I feel like we do comment here and there. Its purely voluntary to engage on social media so you'll probably only see a select few people (especially the ones that engage often), but they are definitely there. One thing I will say is that we read EVERYTHING here, even if we don't comment on it.
OMG is that legendary Viper main Altombre in my subreddit?
why hello there
THIS MAN MADE CHEM TERRAIN (both of them) GET HIM!!!!!
If a Rioter make a shitpost, will it be considered canon in the Lore ?
Coming from a professional sh*tposter, no lol. As much as I love Shaco x Fiora, it is not canon.
HuntedFork
You are right about reddit, you will only reach high engaged engish speakers in a direct way. But "direct" is the word here.
There are plenty of game journalist or content creators interested in telling to the people what you say here. Its a bit sad that we are losing contents like the old Riot Nexus ones that explained why rammus only know six words or how jinx born from a Katie De Sousa's draw. I dont mind if it's in reddit, lol page or whatever but i think that Riot should bring back that kind of contents that, even if not giving a lot of "direct" return, helped a lot for us the folks around the world that spread the League word.
PS: Not native english, hope it can be understood.
Damn a mention of Nexus. That's a throwback.
I am one of the people on the team who used to publish primarily on Nexus. We still do this type of content, but our team is still small and we work on every game at Riot. So we try to find a balance. You also see a lot of our work without realizing it (we work on the Dev Update videos with Brightmoon and Meddler alongside the dev blogs that come out on League).
I'd love to do more standalone content and things like Ask Riot and deeper dive articles. But the content hasn't been performing as well since Nexus died, and video tends to do better so we've been focusing more there.
OMG is that legendary Viper main Altombre in my subreddit?
Who are you
We're still around :)
I'm kinda new to posting around here, but Riots engagement with the community was one of the reasons I wanted to join up; so now that I'm here I'll try and do my part to keep the tradition going.
Here are some of the reasons I don't comment more often:
- Like Brightmoon said, you guys often beat me to it. I can't tell you the number of times I've been typing up a comment and seen someone post exactly what I'm trying to say.
- Reddit's really only good for reaching a small but highly engaged portion of the English speaking world. If something's important to say, then it's better to put it in patch notes or a dev blog so everyone can read it.
- It's intimidating! I'm happy most of my comments have been positively received so far, but it's definitely scary every time I hit the 'comment' button.
And since this is as good a place as any to make my official introduction:
Hi everyone!
I'm Riot HuntedFork and I work as an engineer on the Behavioral Systems team. I'll be around sometimes, say hi if you see me :)
This. :D
I work as a video game journalist and Nexus has been one of the coolest sources of stories I've ever had - it's only been a few days since I posted the Rammus thing! Admittedly, for that part, my opinion is pretty biased.
However, I do feel a little sorry for this part of Riot Games' growth. Even before it was part of my job, it was one of the things I enjoyed most as a player. I think that in this somewhat more serious part of communication, surely necessary after the start of the year, that somewhat more fun and lighthearted approach is lost.
Still, I have only good words for how you are doing things right now. It can't be easy to be in that situation and this is just the cry of someone who misses that perhaps more curious but less important part of Riot Games contents.
We still do some stuff that lived on Nexus like Champion Insights and ORIGINS! We're just spread a little more thin and we don't have a website that ONLY hosts that kind of content anymore.
Appreciate to hear all of the feedback though! <3
I can't tell you the number of times I've been typing up a comment and seen someone post exactly what I'm trying to say.
I mean endorsing a comment goes a long way. Any random reddit comment has to be taken with a large grain of salt. Riot might entirely agree with any one comment, but until they acknowledge that agreement it's the just take of some rando on the internet.
You know what, great point. I'll start doing this.
So if I write a fanficton with Singed and Heimerdinger you would read it?
I write my own fanfiction so I'd be taking notes
Wait there is people from the Behavioral System on the sub?
O.O
I've been hoping you guys would do an AMA one day because of all the weird belief that float around the different systems.
We haven't got a public speaking figure for Behavioral since Lyte left years ago.
We haven't got a public speaking figure for Behavioral since Lyte left years ago.
Maybe not on reddit, but I was a fan of TimTamMonster even before I joined the team.
I've been hoping you guys would do an AMA one day because of all the weird belief that float around the different systems.
Most of the team doesn't use reddit very much, I'll be watching this thread for the rest of the day though.
Hi :)
Hi :)
Hi ^_^
Hello!
Can you talk at all about how toxicity detection works (technically), while (I assume) maintaining an extremely low false positive rate? I work in a very slightly related space and keeping the FP rate as low as possible while still being useful has definitely been tricky in the past.
Anything particularly cool that you're enjoying working on right now?
Huge fan of the notification you guys send when someone in a recent game was punished for toxicity
Can you talk at all about how toxicity detection works (technically), while (I assume) maintaining an extremely low false positive rate?
Specifics of how our systems work is one of those touchy issues where I can never divulge too much. But one thing we do to build confidence is 'dark launching' new features, where we run it against past and current league data to check and make sure it's working as intended.
Anything particularly cool that you're enjoying working on right now?
Seeing everyones positive reactions to the upcoming ranked restrictions has me hyped to be working on it.
Hey, hope you're having a nice day. I have a question too, riot made a dev blog recently talking about the improvements the new behavioural systems brought, with no mention of false positives. Is this being measured? If so, how would it even be measurable?
The primary way we measure false positives is via overturn rates from our friends at Player Support.
When players get bans they don't think they deserve they can make a ticket asking Player Support to take a look. If the rate of overturns starts spiking, we know we made a change that's causing more false positives.
Hey OP,
I'm the Senior Community Manager of League. This is essentially one of my jobs. To make sure we're finding ways to communicate to you all, in both new and tried and true methods. Truthfully we actually communicate to you all a lot, like A LOT. I've worked at a handful of other studios and projects at this point and I've never seen so many things constantly going on like this before. It's great and I love it. We have a lot of people that care about staying in touch with you.
One thing you're absolutely right on is more of the "higher profile things" especially on Reddit. As you may have noticed lately we've shifted a bit more into blogs and the dev update video series, which so far seem to be going great, but they do lack some of that 1 to 1 feel you get in places like Reddit. We actually do plan out time to be on here after those release, but we aren't doing things specifically for Reddit at the moment. So maybe that's why it "feels" like its been missing lately. We have some future plans to do some things on Reddit specifically so on that front for some higher profile moments just know that we're talking about AMAs. Of course you can always expect rioters to engage whenever they want. We're pretty open here and you'll actually see rioters posting really often.
There's also the whole "Reddit is primarily English/NA/EUW focused, and League is a big game with big audiences in a lot of places" but that sounds more like an excuse so I won't give it. While it's true, I totally get how it might feel as an NA player. We're in a lot of places, talking to a lot of people.
TL;DR: Totally understand what you're asking for here OP, and we're planning on doing some of these in the future again (barring anything unforseen, changing of plans, etc.)
For me in the past couple of years there has been huge inconsistencies with League content within Riot. Like the team "starts" a content series and just never continues.
Things like:
1) the VGU BTS pieces of content done for Mord, Irelia, and Panth. those were insanely cool and gave us a lot of insight.
2) champion teasers/announcements . this is pretty much self-explanatory, but there has to be a standard when it comes to announcing or teasing new champs. I understand every project gets its own resources, but shit the difference between Senna cinematic and Nilah's is kinda cringe.
4) Life of patch. This was so dope.
5) most recently you guys started with "Devs Spill The Beans" and just... stopped?
I am sure there are plenty more examples, but yeah, that's some feedback. /u/Cashmiir
I can speak to 1, 4, and 5 since those are things I specifically work on/around:
For video, there's also something to be said about devs' comfort on camera. Not everyone is comfortable being on camera, and I never want to put people in situations where they don't feel safe/comfortable. So sometimes if we see an opportunity, we don't move forward with it because they don't want to be on camera, which is totally fine!
Do I think we can be doing more content? Yeah probably. But we're also trying to balance multiple games with a small team (we also work on unreleased games like Project L).
We are really excited about some of the upcoming content that we've got for League (Champion Insights, Dev Updates, dev blogs, and the Dev Diary I mentioned). We do want to do more stuff as we get towards the end of the year! But I will also take this feedback back to the team to see if we can try to find more opportunities!
Alright, so I can question you on why my dad never came back home from his milk trip then.
he got lost in the sauce
Do you write patch notes? Deal with legal issues?
oh yea i don't do that either. meant mostly the game designer stuff. should probly clarify, assumed poorly that most ppl knew i was a game designer
If an answer is the correct one, maybe add "this" as a comment, to verify the answer. So smaller communication only happens in small Twitter accounts. Are there really more people reading patchnotes than they would official riot posts on Reddit?
Patch notes get translated to multiple languages and are linked to from the client.
but Riots engagement
Now it's Riots engagement, and no longer someone personally having fun.
I'm here I'll try and do my part to keep the tradition going.
And this is why. Once it's work, it's no longer fun. It used to be someones hobby, now it's corporate identity with lots of red tape. Everything get's double checked before posted. Yeah no one WANTS to do that :P
Just so we're abundantly clear on this: when you see a rioter comment here, it's just someone who works at Riot who happens to be browsing reddit.
To get the red badge you do a training and then that's it. Have fun, go wild, try not to embarrass yourself. There's a channel where you can ask questions if you want to, but it's not mandatory.
Hi! Although getting griefed every 5 ranked game isn't the most fun and I wish I wouldn't have to deal with it at all, I've been getting more and more instant report feedbacks in the past couple years (assuming those mean actually something), so I'm glad the behavioral system is getting better. Either that or the client is bugged everytime I click on "ok" once the message pop. I always assumed it was multiple messages stacked on top of each other. Either way, thank you for working on it, we appreciate the effort and hopefully league will one day no longer be seen as the most toxic online game.
Yes. If you get an instant feedback report it means we took action against a player you reported.
It might not have been for the game you reported them in, but those reports are sent out by the system that processes punishments.
Great username!
Made me think of this one new game shown during one of the many recent showcases https://store.steampowered.com/app/1641040/Hydes_Haunt__Seek/
Thanks! Its actually based on a childhood game I used to play with my brother.
Unrelated but since you mentioned you work in behavioural systems, would it be possible to add a check in matchmaking to flex queue for accounts deliberately planting a feeder account on the enemy team every other game?
As it currently stands, higher elo on flex pretty much always has this issue if you aren't a 5 man premade. They get one or two kills then run it till the games over to avoid any sort of punishment system right now, usually something like 2/17 by the end.
A different team actually does most of the 'competitive integrity' kinds of things. I don't know much about it except that they are aware of match fixing and working on it.
Since you are a dev: why does the surr vote have random delays before being mentioned in all chat sometimes?
It's because... Well, you see... *Hides in bushes*
Hi!
Hello!
Once upon a time, Riot hosted forums and participated in them. Reddit has been but a pale shade of what the old forums used to be.
True story
Coming from a professional shitposter, no lol. As much as I love Shaco x Fiora, it is not canon.
As a Shaco main, I'll take whatever lore I can get
Genuine question! Do you think the team would ever do like a retrospective on Star Guardians 2022 and the engineering behind the event?
I'm really interested to know how it was made too work, and the ways in which things kind of just fell apart at the end of it all.
Probably not on Star Guardians at this point. But the team who runs the Tech Blog team might be able to do something like that on the Tech Blog! I can point this to them!
About "a big game with big audiences in a lot of places" - how realistic is to have a small team which would just collect any significant responses from Reddit/Twitter/any other language specific places and just repost it on the official channels with translation?
Simple on paper, but you'll find that quickly compounds into a lot of logistical and bandwidth problems to solve, then you have to scale it and figure out what is the best way to present that information.
It quickly becomes a large effort that requires more than a small team, not to mention all the restraints and hurdles with translation processes alone which are its own difficulties sometimes.
Hi Lexi!
Hope you're well, i'm just being curious about a long lasted topic for one of our beloved champions, Shyvana.
Maybe you can't answer right now, but you might the best one out of Rioters to give us a good state of where she currently stand, as you might have notice (not only on Reddit but also from previous polls) there's a big community behind our lovely dragon lady awaiting for her well deserved VGU.
Are you able to expand on that? Of course if there's details you can share on her!
We have not started working on Shyvana. Currently, the team is focused on getting Jax and Skarner out first.
