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I just had the idea to get a 5man going where we literally just spam normals and FF@15 every single game for the most efficient token generation (24~ per hour depending on queue time).

The enemies get 12 tokens for the easiest win of their lives so their time isn't wasted and allies aren't getting screwed over by teammates not trying.

E: still need some people to do this with btw ;p

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over 5 years ago - /u/Riot_Mort - Direct link

Originally posted by Zhowder

I think you are technically still playing the game so I think it's fine. However if you use bots or macros they might ban you for it.

If you are not bored of just clicking every few minute on 5 computers I think it's okay

Hijacking top comment to drop some life math on ya'all.

Let's say you do this, and FF@8 in ARAM as quick as possible. Ignoring queue times, you can earn 30 tokens an hour. Now if you play ARAM normally, the average game is 17 minutes, and assuming a 50% win rate you can earn 21 tokens an hour. So instead of playing the game and having fun, if you decide to "farm" you are gaining a whopping 9 tokens an hour!

Now for the sake of argument, let's double that and say this trick gets you 18 tokens an hour. (It doesn't, but this will just show how poor a use of your time this is) It would take approximately 9 hours to get 160 tokens. In the store, a 10 orb bundle is about $20 and comes with 160 tokens. So if your goal is simple mind numbing farming for tokens, you're better off doing something with your time that can get you at least $3 an hour...

The token gains are designed to be a cool reward for doing what you already would be...playing League and having fun! They're a bonus for playing the game you are already going to play and enjoy! If you alter your behavior to avoid League and not have fun, there are way more efficient uses of your time to get those tokens.

EDIT: Just to make it extra clear...I'm not saying "Don't grind". You should use your recreation time to have fun, Play League, and enjoy the game! And we'll reward you tokens for it. I'm just advising against turning your recreation time into a boring "lose as quick as possible" grind.

EDIT2: Checked with Player Behavior on this one. If you play these 8 minute games pretty normally, likely no action would be taken. If you AFK or Feed during these 8 minutes and get reported, that ban would be upheld.

over 5 years ago - /u/Riot_Mort - Direct link

Originally posted by CheesusAlmighty

While we have you here, I've been trying to find an answer but not having much luck. Is there a cutoff point for the prestige Lux skin besides the end of the trails event?

2 weeks after the end of the event is the norm

over 5 years ago - /u/Riot_Mort - Direct link

Originally posted by Isomodia

Assume gamers are going to be the same as we have always been. I personally have spent hours autoloading to own the same chest waiting for RNG to give me what I wanted in a single player game. Sure, I could have downloaded a hex editor and just chatted the item in, but the endorphin hit of finally seeing it spawn was the goal.

Same thing here. Efficiency inside the confines of the game rules is the goal. I realise "just spend money" is a great angle for a Rioter, but surely even your social media team must be familiar enough with gaming culture to realize that gamers are going to find the most efficient way to PLAY THE GAME to get what they want.

I didn't spend $10 for 100G in WoW:TBC. I didspend about 8 hours a week grinding spiders outside Shattrath for silk, though. And it felt great when I hit 100g. Even more when I hit 500 and 1000.

But I guess in retrospect, the "efficient" option would have been to grab some over time at work and pay some Gold seller so I could experience more "fun" content.

Thanks for the "life math." it's not alienating to a large chunk of this subculture, at all. I guess that is the Riot Modus Operandi lately, though.

I added an edit to make it extra clear. Not saying "don't grind". Grinding is fun in games! You should grind! Play lots. Have fun!

I am saying don't turn that grind into the most boring possible version that is no longer fun for a slight increase in efficiency.

over 5 years ago - /u/Riot_Mort - Direct link

Originally posted by RenegadeExiled

you're completely disregarding that not all of us have disposable income. I work to pay my bills, and I cant justify spending money on this game anymore, past the pass to farm tokens. I already get nothing but repeat skins from chests, so why would I even bother dropping more money to be disappointed?

Yeah, it's more "efficient" just to spend more money on a free game to get free content. if the rewards were balanced to not require us to spend literal days of our time to unlock, or to throw money at the company for a shortcut, it might be better.

I added an edit to make it extra clear. Not saying "don't grind". Grinding is fun in games! You should grind! Play lots. Have fun!

I am saying don't turn that grind into the most boring possible version that is no longer fun for a slight increase in efficiency.

over 5 years ago - /u/Riot_Mort - Direct link

Originally posted by Policeman333

Yeah for real, this is why Riot's "You have to actually be a gamer" philosophy they had (have?) was so important and it's kind of sad Rioters need this pointed out to them. For every video game in existence, people have grinded thousands of hours for pointless ranks, cosmetics, and items.

Hijacking top comment to drop some life math on ya'all...So if your goal is simple mind numbing farming for tokens...If you alter your behavior to avoid League and not have fun, there are way more efficient uses of your time to get those tokens.

Cmon /u/Riot_Mort, people soft reset Pokemon games for HUNDREDS of hours for a shiny legendary pokemon with the right nature when they could just pay someone irl money to trade it to them. People will spend hundreds of hours for a rare drop in a video game when they could have worked 4-5 hours and just bought that item with irl money.

There are literally people playing League of Legends who will piss in bottles so their multi-week end of season mind numbing grind for Gold or Diamond won't get interrupted, when they could literally pay someone $50 to get that rank for them.

The mind numbing and "not fun" grind is part of the fun for a lot of people, and saying "you could just pay irl money for it" defeats the whole purpose of video games. Rioters should know this and not talk about "life math".

I added an edit to make it extra clear. Not saying "don't grind". Grinding is fun in games! You should grind! Play lots. Have fun!

I am saying don't turn that grind into the most boring possible version that is no longer fun for a slight increase in efficiency.