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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about something or add some points too

-Akshan was out the door, but then they realized they kneecapped Shurima without a 'build around champ' so he survived

-Nami survived alongside Fizz because thats the kinda BS spellslinging that Bilge should be doing I guess

-Zoe got the axe because her elusive nonsense wasn't Targon enough.... Yeah this one makes no sense

-They can't keep up with both eternal ranked and standard ranked being on at all times so thats why eternal ranked isn't always on (edit for more context, its also about queue times like if 50% of people are playing standard and 50% are on eternal they seemed worried about people reactions to longer wait times, although open to feedback)

-There is talks of Champs 2.0 being a reworked version, but its unclear if that means the old champ with new text completely, leona style reworks, or full blown variants with new reworked ideas

-FR was apparently (according to them) TOO GOOD at a bit of everything so they took out stuff so it wasn't a one stop shop (similar to BC)

-They reaffirmed the importance of a regional colorpie and that as stated above regions shouldn't be 1 stop shops and that while you can play mono decks that should come at a cost (while not actually elaborating at all on what the regions should really be doing)

-They are balancing and rotating with future content in mind

-They are looking for feedback and will use that to determine things like future rotations etc

There's more there, like we might end up seeing some return to forms (They mentioned Draven I believe as a 3/3 as an example) in eternal with some buffs to a higher power level, but in general thats the memorable stuff

Personally I think this just makes me have a bit less faith in the direction right now, it absolutely baffles me that Zoe get's the axe, but Fizz and Nami (and Shelley) alongside Akshan are okay? The fact they keep mentioning a color pie that is fairly ambiguous at the moment also just makes it hard to trust any of this in good faith because without knowing what it is, they can just make it up as they go (like they seemed to cherry pick Zoe out not because of the invoking, but because she's an elusive beater).

I sincerely feel like this is just a wonky standard banlist that missed the mark on multiple problematic cards and didn't have the self-awareness to realize things like 'if rotating Akshan means Shurima has basically nothing in our opinion, theres a bigger problem with our rotation than rotating Akshan'.

Ultimately not a fan, and that really only ended up leaving more questions unanswered and creating a lot of new questions.

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about 1 year ago - /u/Dan_Felder - Direct link

"The fact they keep mentioning a color pie that is fairly ambiguous at the moment also just makes it hard to trust any of this in good faith because without knowing what it is, they can just make it up as they go (like they seemed to cherry pick Zoe out not because of the invoking, but because she's an elusive beater)[...] Really only ended up leaving more questions unanswered and creating a lot of new questions."

So, I'm a big proponent of communicating with players as much as we can about our current thinking. Bear in mind we often only have a limited time to do so, while single design meetings discussing design theory and decisions often take 2 hours multiple times a week, so there's only so much we can ever communicate efficiently.

There's always going to be gaps and seeming contradictions because there are dozens of factors that go into every design decision, it's never all 1 or nothing. There are always huge and surprising ripple effects that can result in unexpected tradeoffs. For example, in another thread, I gave an example of how adding the oracle eye UI element actually affects card design space because some effects seem to make the oracle eye 'lie' about what's going to happen.

If you don't trust us to be honest and communicate in good faith about what our reasoning is, if any seeming gap or contradiction makes you believe we're concealing our true motivations, I'm not sure what to do about that. We asked the busy designer that led the rotation work to talk about the decision process. If you don't believe he's telling the truth, I mean... He is.