over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Welcome everyone,

Before we begin: I hope you're all staying safe and being kind.

As you can tell by the title of this post, this will be the final reddit Q&A for Crusaders of the Lost Idols, in the wake of our announcement of the sunsetting of the game.

For those of you who are joining us for the first time, I'm Erika, the Live Services Manager for Crusaders of the Lost Idols, and I will do my best to answer your Crusaders questions.

I will be doing my best to get to all the questions today, and within the next couple of days.

The previous Q&A: Number 275

Community Activity

As a send off for Crusaders, you can now colour the Thank You sheet.

If we get at least 10 submissions, we'll release a 3 day 25% bonus Dungeon Points buff.

Updates:

  • We'll be working on the upcoming content items and quality of life items leading up to the final content update.

  • The Tier 7 version of Hermit's Premature Party will debut hopefully today, but it might slip to tomorrow.

  • The recipes for the Merci's Mix Up crusaders will be available Tuesday, March 8th, 2022 after Noon Pacific Time (UTC-8.)

  • The winning skins for the skin store update are currently penciled in for a Thursday, March 17th, 2022 release.

  • The Tier 7 version of Nate's Candy Conundrum will debut Thursday, April 7th, 2022. This will be the final updated Tier 7 event.

  • The final weekend buff promo will run the weekend of Friday, April 8th, 2022. This will also be the final newsletter chest.

  • Thursday, April 28th, 2022 sees the end of Season 6 and the automatic start of the Superhero Spring re-run event.

  • Wednesday, May 4th, 2022 is the final content update for the game, the debut of Season 7: Sunset, which will have rewards designed to fit the infinite levels.

FAQ About the Sunsetting

  • What does sunsetting mean in this context? A: It means the game will no longer receive new content updates. The game servers will be kept running as long as we are able to.

  • Why are you sunsetting Crusaders? A: Live service games like Crusaders require a fairly large community to support them. While this community is great, sadly the support to provide the resources that Crusaders needs to continue running in a sustainable manner is no longer there, and so we've made the decision to stop live servicing the game.

  • Is there a hail mary situation for keeping the game alive? A: No, now that we've come to this decision, we won't be reversing it.

  • Will you sell the game base? A: No, we will not be entertaining offers of purchasing the game.

  • Will you make an offline version or allow community mods? A: No, this is not something we'll be offering.

  • What will happen with the Golden Epics? A: All non-DLC Golden Epics will be added to the Challenge Token store and the Flash Sale pool lists up to the one released with the April 8th, 2022 Golden Epic. Those will be all the Golden Epics that exist in the game.

  • What about the Desert Bus Crusaders? A: The Desert Bus Crusaders were part of donations made to Desert Bus while their campaign was running. We won't be partnering with Desert Bus for Crusaders in future, so what players have, they have.

  • What about the Yogscast/Search for Simon event? A: It will not be re-running, and we will be hiding the related achievements for all players.

  • What about the Tier 5 kill 10,000 monster achievements? A: We will be hiding these achievements for all players as part of the final content updates.

Support

Please put in a support ticket if you've found a bug with the game. You can submit a ticket using the "Contact Support" button from the Guidebook/Support menu in the game. It will open a new window or a new tab in your browser and you do need to have cookies enabled.

You will be able to submit tickets up until April 14th, 2022.

After that date, please email [email protected] with your account name for support with your issue.

 

Have a treat! ARED-DITQ-&AFI-NALE awards 5 Runic Grab Bags. Expires Thursday, March 17th, 2022 at 9:59 AM Pacific Time (UTC-8.)

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over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Welcome everyone,

Before we begin: I hope you're all staying safe and being kind.

As you can tell by the title of this post, this will be the final reddit Q&A for Crusaders of the Lost Idols, in the wake of our announcement of the sunsetting of the game.

For those of you who are joining us for the first time, I'm Erika, the Live Services Manager for Crusaders of the Lost Idols, and I will do my best to answer your Crusaders questions.

I will be doing my best to get to all the questions today, and within the next couple of days.

The previous Q&A: Number 275

Community Activity

As a send off for Crusaders, you can now colour the Thank You sheet.

If we get at least 10 submissions, we'll release a 3 day 25% bonus Dungeon Points buff.

Updates:

  • We'll be working on the upcoming content items and quality of life items leading up to the final content update.

  • The Tier 7 version of Hermit's Premature Party will debut hopefully today, but it might slip to tomorrow.

  • The recipes for the Merci's Mix Up crusaders will be available Tuesday, March 8th, 2022 after Noon Pacific Time (UTC-8.)

  • The winning skins for the skin store update are currently penciled in for a Thursday, March 17th, 2022 release.

  • The Tier 7 version of Nate's Candy Conundrum will debut Thursday, April 7th, 2022. This will be the final updated Tier 7 event.

  • The final weekend buff promo will run the weekend of Friday, April 8th, 2022. This will also be the final newsletter chest.

  • Thursday, April 28th, 2022 sees the end of Season 6 and the automatic start of the Superhero Spring re-run event.

  • Wednesday, May 4th, 2022 is the final content update for the game, the debut of Season 7: Sunset, which will have rewards designed to fit the infinite levels.

FAQ About the Sunsetting

  • What does sunsetting mean in this context? A: It means the game will no longer receive new content updates. The game servers will be kept running as long as we are able to.

  • Why are you sunsetting Crusaders? A: Live service games like Crusaders require a fairly large community to support them. While this community is great, sadly the support to provide the resources that Crusaders needs to continue running in a sustainable manner is no longer there, and so we've made the decision to stop live servicing the game.

  • Is there a hail mary situation for keeping the game alive? A: No, now that we've come to this decision, we won't be reversing it.

  • Will you sell the game base? A: No, we will not be entertaining offers of purchasing the game.

  • Will you make an offline version or allow community mods? A: No, this is not something we'll be offering.

  • What will happen with the Golden Epics? A: All non-DLC Golden Epics will be added to the Challenge Token store and the Flash Sale pool lists up to the one released with the April 8th, 2022 Golden Epic. Those will be all the Golden Epics that exist in the game.

  • What about the Desert Bus Crusaders? A: The Desert Bus Crusaders were part of donations made to Desert Bus while their campaign was running. We won't be partnering with Desert Bus for Crusaders in future, so what players have, they have.

  • What about the Yogscast/Search for Simon event? A: It will not be re-running, and we will be hiding the related achievements for all players.

  • What about the Tier 5 kill 10,000 monster achievements? A: We will be hiding these achievements for all players as part of the final content updates.

Support

Please put in a support ticket if you've found a bug with the game. You can submit a ticket using the "Contact Support" button from the Guidebook/Support menu in the game. It will open a new window or a new tab in your browser and you do need to have cookies enabled.

You will be able to submit tickets up until April 14th, 2022.

After that date, please email [email protected] with your account name for support with your issue.

 

Have a treat! ARED-DITQ-&AFI-NALE awards 5 Runic Grab Bags. Expires Thursday, March 17th, 2022 at 9:59 AM Pacific Time (UTC-8.)

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over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by FrequentWay

Hey Erika, what does occur when you run out of flash sales items such as golden items. Do we then get runic grab bags ?

Hi FrequentWay,

Currently the flash sales would stop showing up if you own all the Golden Epics and the taskmasters.

We can discuss adding a runic grab bag option as part of the final content updates..

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by billyjoe99

Hi Erika,

Firstly thanks for 2200 days of mostly fun.

One thing I've asked for before, which should be quick and easy, is could we have the points total shown in full and not in scientific notation on reset.

Also is it still possible to get the have Sinjin kill Sjelda achivement anywhere, I think it was available but can't remember where.

Finally good luck to you and the rest of the team, wherever you next end up.

Hi billyjoe99,

You're welcome for the fun. I'll pass it along to the team.

I'll check with Wilson. I know we do force some numbers to ignore sci not, so in theory it should be doable.

You can get the Solo Kill Sjelda achievement on the Making Waves dungeon, if you want to try.

Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by LazyBast1

thanks for the memories

Definitely a lot of memories. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by TylorkPlays

I think Cotli and Idle Champions are the best idle games out there. Thank you very much for that.

That's so cool. I'll pass it along to the team. Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by rjakubec

Very very sad to see you go! I feel lost, kind of like when Lost ended, I remember walking through the streets, looking at other people and knowing that they don't understand me or what I feel. The Internet knows, the community knows, you know.

Happy to have shared with you all this slice of life.

Yeah, it will be weird to not be working on Crusaders after so long of having it be a part of my daily life, but there will be the memories.

Thank you for being a part of our journey. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by FateIsEscaped

Loved the game. Thanks for being here for us. I also found this. An idol. You can have this one.

We're glad to hear it. It's been a pleasure to be a part of this community.

D'aww, thanks for the Idol. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by OwnedByACrazyCat

Will the events re-run just without any additional tiers?

With the removal of some achievements mean that we should be able to complete all the achievements - i.e will it be the currently impossible achievements being the ones removed)

Yes, the events will re-run without additional tiers. If you've already completed everything, then it would just be the free plays if you wanted to.

The hiding of the achievements means that players who don't have them won't be able to complete them.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Quince-5555

Excellent FAQ on the sunsetting, thank you for posting that! And thank you for all your work over the years on this terrific game!

You're welcome for the FAQ. I'll be posting it as a blog as well, once we see what other questions pop up from this Q&A.

Thank you for playing Crusaders. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by clear-chaos

Still super bummed to hear about the sunset :( Playing since T1 of Princess' Pool Party! It's been fun watching the art and game evolve before you.

I was curious, the Skin survey seemed to have a skin planed for every (Not Xochi??? Where's the love for my girl) unit; would it be possible to see the roughs for some ideas? They sounded genuinely cool just as character designs.

Sad to hear the Yogcast/Desert bus crew wont be available, they have some spicy tag combinations. Will you be pushing the recipes for those units just so people can complete them if they have them?

Thanks for everything to the whole team! Best of luck in all your future works.

Totally, the art and game evolution have been so neat to see, back from when there were only a handful of objectives and not even Talents, to all the systems we have today.

I think Xochi wasn't on the list because Kat felt her tags were OK, and it was more about adding tag combos we didn't have, or giving someone like Matt with limited tags a few more uses. There's no initial sketches of any of those ideas though. It was to give us direction on what skins to tackle first.

We won't be turning on the recipes for the Desert Bus Crusaders, as the gear was part of the donation.

Thank you for being on our Crusaders journey. :D

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by kittymug

Hi Erika,

Sad news, but I think in hind sight the game was actively maintained for much langer than I would have expected.

Thanks to you and the team (new and old) for keeping it going as long as you have. For 'just a small simple game' this one has brought me hours, days, maybe even months of fun over the years.

2 final questions for you then. Can you share anything about what is next for you after the sunsetting? At this time, what do you consider to be the top 5 QoL enhancements that the community is looking for? I recognize that all of this is not likely to make it into the final update, just curious about your perspective on this topic.

All the best to you and team.

Hi kittymug,

We're glad you've enjoyed the Crusaders journey. I'll pass it along to the team.

Kat and Wilson will be moving to fill in the artist and developer positions we have available on Idle Champions, though Wilson will check on the emails into crusaders@codename when he can. I'll be moving on to something else.

The requests with the highest percentage of votes from the survey are the current top priorities, along with some tweaks to the infinite rewards to make season 7 point collecting appealing.

Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by dbmcgrew

I would love to be able to replay objectives (campaign and event) for another chance at earning the related achievements. Allowing this shouldn't require new content.

Thanks for CotLI. I'll keep playing it as long as I can. But ICotFR doesn't really appeal to me.

While it would be cool, we don't plan on making objectives repeatable.

You're welcome for Crusaders.

We don't expect all players to move to Idle Champions, but we wanted to give those who choose to try it out again a little boost with the various codes on offer.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by JuJuBee2006

Are runic grab bags guaranteed to give 1 level 5 rune, or is it only a chance? Used the code (big thank you btw), and got 3 level 5 runes from the 5 bags, the rest were level 4.

A bit bummed that the game will cease to receive updates, but the game had a pretty good run.

They are guaranteed to give the level 5 rune. It's just the results screen doesn't respect that for some reason. On the fix list.

You can check the entry in the play history to confirm all the level 5 runes were added.

It was definitely a hard decision, but it's been a great experience all around with Crusaders.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by jetwbt

So long and thanks for the fish.

You're welcome. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by PavelD100

Hi Erika, Thanks for 2308 days of great game! Are you keep Events alive to finally complete them? I skipped big bunch of them so I need these objectives.

Hi PavelD100,

You're quite welcome. We're glad you've enjoyed Crusaders.

Events will turn on automatically with their existing content, so if you do have objectives to complete, you'll be able to tackle them when you see the events come back.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by mystic_dragon005

Thanks for the code and 2378 days of playtime I've went through. I was wondering what was the thought on skin amounts to be added since there was a potential list in mind from the survey? You mentioned winning skins and I wasn't exactly sure what tht meant.

Also, in rune grab bags it seems at least visually I've only seen up to 3 legendary (level5) when opening 5 bags at a time. is that just a glitch?

We're glad you've enjoyed Crusaders.

Kat went a bit overboard with the list of potential skins, but she wanted to see if there was any interest in giving those older Crusaders a skin over the newer ones.

So the top 3 skins that received the most votes from the community will be the ones we put into the skin shop with the March 17th update. The winners were pretty popular compared to the other choices.

Just a visual glitch. For some reason it doesn't display more than 1 of the level 5 rune, but you can double check in the play history entry for the runes added.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by TFahab

Sunsetting the game before it even gets out of beta? ;)

Thanks to you and the team for all the work over the years. I know there's a lot of frustration within the active community about how sudden it feels, but I'm also fairly sure that's far outside of your control.

Hehehe, we just haven't had a reason to make a new Steam build.

Thank you for being on the Crusaders journey with us over the years.

We've always said that live service would continue as long as it was supported. We're glad we're in a position where we can give the two months notice for the last content update instead of something more abrupt.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by wauzooligan71

Chat is known to flake out. Hope you come in sometimes after sunset and give chat a boot :).

Nick gets reports of chat getting stuck for the CNE launcher, so he'll be rebooting that one.

We'll take steps to have the Steam chat room get rebooted as well.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by atxstranger

I want to say the decision to not entertain selling the game is disappointment stacked on disappointment. Obviously, money plays a big role in this decision and there seems to be an active community that wants to keep the game alive. CodeName obviously believes there is not enough community support, but selling the game assets to interested parties/community would help CodeName recoup some of their investment in the game.

That being said, thanks for all the fun. If anyone wants to make a different idle game, please let me know, I'd certainly be interested in trying something else out.

Thank you for playing Crusaders.

The company's focus will be Idle Champions for now, but keep an eye on Codename's social accounts for updates.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by jbroome

That code got me my level 10 fire on Mogra, thanks!

Oh nice, congrats!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by abiel0530

So sad that this is all ending. Thank you for the 7 years, Erika and all the rest at CNE!

It definitely brings out the feelings. Thank you for being a part of our Crusaders adventure!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Helpful_Ingenuity586

Hi Erika,

Thanks for making this great game, I spent 2387 days in it until now.

Now, that we are out of the beta phase, could you give the number v1.0 to the final version? Would be fitting.

Hi Helpful_Ingenuity586,

You're quite welcome. Definitely a lot of days on the game for sure.

I'll make a note and see if we remember to do that for the final push.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Darkliandra

Hi Erika,

There is 1 talent missing in the last row (middle column). Can we get something silly there, just for completion? It doesn't have to be a great buff even.

Hi Darkliandra,

I'm hoping to squeeze some talent updates in to the final content pushes, so we'll see what happens.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by pastuso1

Hi Erika

First of all, to all Codename Entertainment folks : Thanks so much for all these years of fun. And a huge thank you Erika for being so receptive and close to the community, always kind and helpful

I wish you all the best

Have an awesome Thursday !!! :)

Hi pastuso1,

You're quite welcome. I'll pass it along to the team.

Have an awesome Thursday yourself! :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by clear-chaos

Her tags are pretty nice so that’s fair. Fingers crossed Shir got that dragon skin.

I should have clarified; I was talking about the Yogcast unit recipes. They were all events right? I understand not adding the DB crew.

The Yogscast crew have recipes and gear missions. Depending on how many Crusaders are missing things, it might take a while for the RNG to make them show up for you.

They just don't have very many Golden Epics in the Challenge Token Store, since we only tried to give them those during the event running.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Haunting-Piano1360

How long ago did you take the decision to stop the support for COTLI ?

(thanks for the years of fun, i have 2200 hours)

Every year in Q1 we review the games to see how they're doing. This year we chose to do a more in-depth review of Crusaders. The whole review process took about 2 weeks of focused work for the company to come to the decision, and then some time to craft the announcement and sort out all the pieces included in that.

Thank you for being part of the Crusaders adventure. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Croq360

I think this would be an awesome idea to have Runic Grab Bags show up. Any chance those could also pop-up in one or more of the shops in some capacity?

That might be something we can look at as well. We'll see what we get done before the end.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by mervinside

Hi Erika, thanks for all !

You don't want to sell the game, so I guess it's because you don't need money, nd then all the content will be free ?

Hi mervinside,

We're glad you've enjoyed Crusaders.

We just don't plan on selling the Crusaders code base.

Players will still be able to make real money purchases in the game as long as the servers are available, if they want to, and the DLC items will still be exclusive to the DLC. But the Challenge Token store will eventually get a player a lot of Golden Epics.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Croq360

It's very sad to see Crusaders moving on into sunset mode. That being said, I'm really glad to hear that you will be keeping the servers running (even if there are no future updates).

I did have a question regarding content sales. I know in the past, you have participated in Steam sales and have put DLC and other things on sale from time to time. Will the content discount sales continue?

Definitely a roller coaster of emotions for sure, but yeah, no plans for shuttering the servers for as long as we're able to keep them up.

With the sunset and no new content, there will be no more sales on the DLC packs.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Cecil-Lokison

Hi Erika,

I have no questions, but I would like to express my gratitude for the service you have rendered in the past for my game enjoyment. I have been playing for about 6 years or so and I will continue to play till I have everything or the servers are shut down. You guys have kept the game interesting and real for me.

I had a funny feeling the death of flash would affect us eventually. I know some other companies shut their games down entirely and started new ventures. We are lucky to have what you are offering us.

I hope new games are possible for you guys, because I enjoy the style of play you offer. I don't really care for Idle Champions, though I have started playing it again.

Please accept my kind wishes for your personal future and of the rest of the crew. Have a full-filling life!

Cecil

Hi Cecil,

Thank you for being a part of our Crusaders journey as well. I'll share your feelings with the team. :)

Keep an eye on Codename socials for any announcements of new games in the future.

Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by barawar

Hi Erika
1 Can you unlock all the DLC packs? TM's, GL's.... (DLC taskmasters in for rubies or something)
2 Last Talents when you make them can you consider to make them or some of them as MT? So we can spend our idols on them for longer
3 Can you make Talents that have a chance or so to drop Rune chests and Rune bags based on per Boss kill and/or area/s?
4 Can you make another Double Sprint talent or an option and/or increase Sprint talents?
5 Can you unlock the Dungeon's Pass?
6 Can you make the GL's in the challenge shop rotate every week or so?
9 Can you give more Tags to the speeders for missions?
Thank you

Hi barawar,

1) The DLC items will still be DLC only.

2) We aren't planning on having any uncapped Talents in the final updates.

3) It's a suggestion that's come up, so we'll see what happens.

4) Depending on how the balance for season 7 shakes out, we may add more Sprint, but it's not a guarantee.

5) The Dungeon Pass will still be a real money purchase for season 7.

6) We may consider adjusting the timer on the Challenge Token Store Goldens, but it's not a high priority on the list of final things we'd like to add before the end.

7) We'll be adding the 3 new skin shop skins, but we're not planning on randomly adding tags to Crusaders.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by JamesRisse

will any form of dungeon run be available after the current one expires?

As noted, Season 7: Sunset will be available starting May 4th, 2022, and that season will run as long as the servers are kept going.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by bippyarg

Hi Erika, sorry to see this come to an end. I plan to play as long as it remains fun and hope to hit that e255 idol limit. (currently at e150-ish)

A couple of thoughts about the QoL and Sunset Season 7:

  1. Since long term balance (for future patches) is no longer a concern, please balance S7 for completion style balance. For example, please make sure there are sufficient Runic rewards so active players can generate a level 15 rune on a regular basis.

  2. Please extend idol rewards so they continue to grow to much higher levels, like 35k for points and coins, so longer overnight idol runs are possible. Basically just remove the idol hardcap. Maybe have all dungeon rewards scale up to level 50k for S7, why not at this point?

  3. A Mission autocomplete toggle if it is 100% would be nice QoL.

  4. Coin balance doesn't really matter, so maybe consider unlimited dungeon runs per week (get rid of the 15 "free" runs), and just have dungeons be available to run all the time with no need to "buy" additional runs.

Is T9 talent release still on the table?

Thanks! -Bipp

Thanks CNE for providing years of fun.

Hi Bipp,

Good luck on the e255 goal!

1) Just for the players who've been asking, we'll be adding more Epic Trinket chests. ;) J/k. We'll be adjusting the infinite level rewards to be worth chasing points for.

2) & 4) I'll be picking Justin's brain for advice on how best to tackle the dungeon system, thinking of an infinite season. We'll see what happens.

3) Since it was one of the survey vote winners, it's definitely something we want to try and tackle, though we'll be making sure to get Nate's Candy Conundrum and Season 7 squared away first as those are called out in the Sunset roadmap, and use the leftover time for the assorted QoL stuff and the Tier 9 talents.

Thank you for being an active part of the community for Crusaders. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Global-Quantity3849

Thanks for the last 2415 days, it's been fun, I'm disappointed it's going (I expected BW2 to go first) but looking forward to the endless season. Grab bags in all three stores would be good to get rid of tokens and try to get crusaders up to level 15. How long do the codes for Idle Champions last because I may try it but not for quite a while.

Thank you for being a part of the Crusaders journey.

Another vote for more Runic Grab Bags, noted.

Checking the codes for Idle Champions, they currently do not have an expiry date. I'd imagine we'd keep them active for a good while, to catch players who might not have checked in yet, and because they're locked by ID as to who can redeem them. So there's some time to decide there.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by astartespete

Hi Erika,

I hope you and all the team are safe and well.

Had to come back and just say thanks for all the memories and fun over the years. I never got over the flash death but Cotli was a cherished part of my day for so long.

I hope you guys keep going on Idle Champions and wish you every success for the future.

Finally, thanks to all the members of the community who's friendliness, humour, irreverent and sometimes downright crazy chat always brought a smile to my face.

Peace all

Pete

Hi Pete,

Thank you for stopping by, and for playing Crusaders as long as you could.

I'll pass the kind words along to the team as well.

Cheers, Erika

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by harimau2

Hi Erika,

Sad to see Cotli packing its bags, especially in these worrying times. Personally I think Cotli is/was the best game in your stable.

Small question: is there some time left for you to add 1 or 2 input lines in the chat app? It would reduce the amount of typo's.

Wishing you and the team all the best!

Hi harimau2,

Crusaders is definitely something, and it will be weird to move on.

Given all the other quality of life items we want to get to for the final updates, I don't see us having time for chat tweaks.

Best wishes to you as well.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Azar-yah

CotLI 2, when? ( ^_^ )

I mean, that's technically Idle Champions. ;)

I don't know if the company plans to make sequel games any more, but keep an eye on the Codename socials for any new projects.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by VerbingWeirdsLang

Thank you for the Runic Bags, the farewell gifts, the cute Taskmasters, and for that crazy weekend buff! I didn't want to give it up! What I wouldn't give for it to be a perma boost for good ol' Zuc.

Especially since we'll be Dungeoning into the Sunset forever until you guys shut down the servers!

I knew Crusaders would come to an end some day (it's kinda inevitable when the power creep begins), but for it to be this soon!! In light of the recent survey, it felt like you guys had perhaps another year's worth of content. Then came the release of Zuc's GE. I jokingly thought that would be the most requested GE come Christmas raffle. But then a couple of days later bye-bye Crusaders?!

The timing of all this makes me wonder how far back you guys planned to make this decision before dropping the bomb?

Nevertheless, thanks for such a fun idle game for all these years and for listening to our feedback!

You're welcome for all the gifts.

Yeah, some Crusaders have some pretty crazy weekend buffs.

While there is a lot of potential content, the survey does help us decide what to prioritize for the final updates. And there probably isn't such a thing as a good time for an announcement. It would always be after something, be it a good Crusader, GE or update.

Thank you for being on the Crusaders journey with us.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by TheKnoticalMenace

No questions, but a huge THANK YOU for bringing this amazing game to life and the incredible adventure that I enjoyed for the last four years!

Thank you for being a part of the community Knotical! :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Bcadren

I just don't know what to say. Been with Crusaders since Brogon/Leerion's introduction in T1 of Song of Thrones. Taken aback at content ending but I don't think I have and specific questions not already covered in your FAQ. I guss Ill just say I'm rather sad about this and leave it at that.

It's definitely been a hard decision, but there's so much to look back on and be proud that it exists. Feeling sad is totally understandable though.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by PinkPrincipessa

Hi --

I hope I'm not too late. If these aren't answered elsewhere, I had two questions:

- Which of the survey options will be in the game?

- What options/items/features will be remaining in the game?

Thank you and everyone associated with CotLI for all the great years of play and excellent service!

Hi,

I'll probably keep checking on the thread for a little while.

  • We want to keep the skins a surprise, and then we'll try to get as many of the quality of life things from the survey in that we can, but we can't promise all of them.

  • There will be a final season, Season 7, with improved rewards, and then the events will re-run automatically, if you haven't finished the objectives for those. And then any permanent content you haven't completed yet, if that's a thing.

Thank you for playing. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by KameRose

Hi Erika,

I'd like to address the elephant in the room that is the Crusaders Chat. It has been something that we were told was going to go into effect when the launcher was updated, back when flash stopped working in browsers. That thing being the addition of permanent chat rooms.(just five or six would be ideal, which would be the three main ones that we always chat in and a couple additional ones for if a couple players want to have a more private conversation) Please tell me there is going to be an update to the launcher?

As it is we'd be down to just two chat rooms right now if/when chat goes down.

Also since support will no longer be active, could you look into a way to possibly reset chat on like a daily basis automatically(or like set up a reminder daily or twice a week). Since it is a very common bug for a player to be unable to see any posts until the chat is reset.

This is the one big obnoxious elephant in the room that while manageable with active support will soon make the game 'unplayable' for many players.

Hi KameRose,

I don't think we'll have time for chat improvements over the more requested quality of life features unfortunately.

Since the CNE launcher chat is on the CNE chat server, it will get restarted when Nick restarts it at the request of Bush Whacker 2 players.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by JulizaLight

Hi Erika

Thanks for a great game Very sorry to see it sunsetting. The game has kept me going since my partner passed away in October 2020.

I'm wondering if we will still be able to get the last Epic for the dungeon crusader Matt Spacewalker and Zephoralei and any others the community hasn't got

Good luck with for all who work on Crusaders of the lost idol with your next projects

Hi JulizaLight,

While the content may be ending, the servers will be up as long as we can keep them up.

So there's only 8 more Golden Epics being added to the game, with 2 of them coming tomorrow with Hermit's event and the weekend buff. Any other Golden Epics won't be added.

Thank you for the well wishes.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by RabbiZucker

Hi Erica, I recently paid for the season pass with the idea in mind that the game will continue on. I will probably stop being so invested on the game. Is there a way to return the items and get a refund?

Hi RabbiZucker,

Thank you for the purchase. As purchases contain consumable items, they are non-refundable. And you will still be able to finish out season 6, and continue to play the game even after the last content update. The servers will remain up as long as we're able to keep them up.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by algie666UK1

well thanks for all the help i have received ,and all your hard work. a quick Q idol champions is of similar content to lost idols and i am curious to your opinion in new players joining it .....spending a few bucks on the game and then that also becomes sunset,? see you on the next journey :}

You're quite welcome.

Idle Champions isn't going anywhere. It's currently doing very well and has some exciting new features already in production for this year. But if the impermanence of digital things gives you pause, don't feel obligated to spend on it. Do what feels best to you.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by zodiPhd

Thank you. COTLI was the first on-line idle game I played. It's been a journey watching it morph and grow over the 6 years I've played: remember when duplicate gear gave you EP?

One last QoL item suggestion: there are many times when the last digit is cut off from the top DPS # display. It could either be brought into the foreground or else be shrunk a tad to fit it all in, like the font size of CLK DMG.

I wish many blessings and peace to all.

zodi

Yeah, back when Enchantment Points made a little sense as a name.

Such large DPS. I'll add it to the list, since I do agree it's a bit annoying when it gets stuck and cuts off that last digit, and hopefully we can get to it.

Thank you for being a part of the Crusaders adventure. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Croq360

Another quick question - will codes given in the weekly Champions of Psychology live stream continue to work in Crusaders and award a Runic Chest?

Good question. I checked with the team and the codes working in Crusaders for Champions of Psychology will stop along with the content updates stopping.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by ZellZoy

Crusaders pretty much ruined idle games for me since nothing else will measure up, gonna miss it. Though I will keep playing it and now I have an actual end game in sight which is actually kinda nice lol. Thanks for the fun times.

I'm glad you've been enjoying Crusaders so much and thank you for being on the journey with us. Though an end goal is definitely something nice to have. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by whywouldichooseaname

do you have any idea how long of a break we can expect between the current dungeon season and the next? there isn't exactly a rush this time; i'm just curious.

also, this is just a shot in the dark, but would you consider removing the "Cannot be buffed by Formation Abilities" restriction on Ana's and Xochitl's chest increases? Springy has completely overpowered them for gaining materials, and gaining warps for events is mostly a matter of time rather than balance now. this sort of buff would at least make the new mega chest achievements a little faster (and you'd still need a tier 5 or t6 crusader to make use of this buff in the first place)

the runes faq still mentions a plan for a bonus you get if a crusader has all 5 runes open. was this the Runic Hoards and Powers of Old Renewed talents, or was something else planned? if it was something else, and you don't have time to do it anymore, can you give details about what you had brainstormed for it so far?

finally, any chance we can see the infamous List in all its glory?

So, we do have the dates in the opening post of the Q&A, as well as the sunsetting blog.

Season 6 ends on Apr 28th, and season 7 should launch May 4th, 2022.

Most of the final game changes we want to make would be quality of life related over Crusader tweaks, so I don't think that would be something that would happen.

Nice catch on the Rune FAQ. I'll need to tweak that question. I kind of teased my idea on a couple of streams, which would involve unlocking a bonus power that would get stronger depending on the total levels of the runes equipped on the Crusader, along with paying Arcane Geodes to level up said power a bit as well. Definitely an ambitious idea though.

No, the list won't be released to the public.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by BazzTurd

Yeah well, thank for that e-mail code.... ohhh yeah it doesnt work, only 12 chars not 16 as required.

As the email mentions, it's goodies to get started in Idle Champions, if you want to try it out, which is why it's 12 characters.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by DoctorNovakaine

Hi, Erika. Thank you for the code.

I wasn't quite expecting it to happen when it did, but the longevity of the game was always kind of on the back of my mind. So I think I came to terms with it faster than some. It will be a somewhat sad departure, but I got years of entertainment out of it, so I'm at least leaving with a feeling of satisfaction when I finish.

I've had Idle Champions as a mainstay since just after its release, so I'll be continuing on over there. (Thanks for that code, too, it helped a good bit with my quest for full epics, haha.)

Good luck to your future endeavors.

Hi DoctorNovakaine,

You're welcome for the code.

Yeah, definitely a lot of memories and a lot of fun over the years to look back on.

Oh, that's cool you're enjoying Idle Champions as well. You're welcome for those goodies as well.

Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by pandino89

Hello there! I am here just to say goodbye and thank you for amazing 7+ years of gameplay. I started on ArmorGames, then moved to Steam and I'm running it like that since there. I was hoping to finally do donation for Desert Bus, because I did that 4 years ago only, and after that was always short on cash when the event move in... Damn, I will not have a chance this time unfortunately.

But hey! Maybe it will be possible to make one-week event with donations for Ukraine with Desert Bus team as rewards? I know it might sound bad, but will give the last chance for people to do so and also make a good cause. Please ask Desert Bus team about that and maybe it is possible?

Also: do you can tell us how long will the servers run? Will it be one month, half a year, end of 2022 or longer? Were you thinking about that?

Anyway. Cheers again for amazing game! The only one I was playing with such passion for years! <3 Cheers from Poland!!!

Hi pandino89,

Thank you for stopping by and for being with us for the Crusaders journey. :)

Codename has a donation drive for the International Rescue Committee's Ukraine efforts currently going, from purchases in Bush Whacker 2 and Idle Champions. It ends tomorrow, Friday March 4th, at Noon Pacific Time (UTC-8) in both those games.

The servers will run as long as it's possible to do so. The only change will be depending on how many players remain, we might not have all 3 play servers up; we'd reduce it to the number servers required to support the load. We'll make the call when we see the new daily player amount later this year.

Our original game, Egg Breaker 1, would still be available, if Adobe Flash hadn't gone away last year which caused Facebook to remove it, ending its life at almost 13 years old. Another example of a game that is still running away on its own server is Shards of Titan, which has been out of production for 6 years. There's still a handful of players playing it daily though, so we're keeping the server going.

Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Anitonen

I have been enjoying this game for 6 years, sad to see it go but happy to have played it. Wishing you well on future ventures. So long and thanks for all the fish.

Thank you for being a part of the Crusaders adventure!

Best of luck to you in the future! :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by ropus1

just passing by to say thanks to cotl team! it was an incredible year and half with you! thanks!

You're quite welcome. I'll pass it along to the team. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by VeritasXNY

Please make sure we can get unlimited idol respecs prior to ending support for COTLI. Maybe make them purchasable in the ruby store?

That's a lot of respec'ing. But it's on our quality of life list to try and get something related to respecs in the final content updates, if we can.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by barawar

I don't understand if the game is sunseting and the DLC pacs (GL's and TM's and Dungeon Pass) won't be selling any more, can't you make them available after the support stops?

Players will still be able to make purchases if they wish to. We're not turning off purchases with the end of content updates.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by kittymug

Were the survey results shared or summarized somewhere?

All the best to you on your next steps and something else.

No, the results weren't shared. If we meant to share them, then we would have had the "view results" option enabled on the google form.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Bocian00000

Thank you for a wonderful game and it's a pity that this adventure ends. Unfortunately, Idle Champions does not appeal to me and I hope that we will be able to create a new project. The things I would like to see before the final update are:

  1. Runic Grab Bags - nice as if it appeared in all stores
  2. More Jeweled Chests so that you can complete the achievements related to Ultimate Jeweled Chests (e.g. by increasing talent Jeweler
  3. Make to Arcane Geodes useful after unlocking all 5 slots (
    For example, buying with them Runic Grab Bags)

You're welcome. Thank you for being along on the journey with us. Keep an eye on the Codename socials then, if you want to know when we have a new game.

1) With the amount of requests about them, I think they might make their way into some store.

2) What happened to everyone's ruby stashes? Saving those for the weekly runic chests? We'll keep the request for more Jeweled chests in mind.

3) We were going to repurpose them, but it's not a part of the final content update plans.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by dimitrius5naj

Erica, thank you so much for this game!
She whiled away the time with long and lonely evenings for the last 6 years (Oh, God, how long!), allowed me to rest my brain and reconciled with English (taught German at school, not of my choice). Hope everything goes great for you!
And a peaceful sky above your head!
PS. What about the skins sale?

Hi dimitrius5naj,

Thank you for being along on the Crusaders journey. It's cool we could help with the English.

We'll be adding 3 new skins to the skin store on March 17th.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Haunting-Piano1360

Just an idea for the sunset update : put up Trinket Chests in dungeon & challenge shops and make them work like runic chests currently work (6 per week with these 2 shops)

Interesting idea. It's kind of cool that someone like the Trinket chests. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Jothda

Thank you very much for so many entertaining years! All the best to the whole CotLI team on your next projects!

In the "Runes" tab it would be great if you could add a filter "Mission time decreasing 4th slot" like you have it already for "Mission rewards doubling 4th slot".

You're quite welcome. Definitely some entertaining times were had over the years.

I'll add that filter to our list of final updates, and we'll see if time allows for it.

Cheers!

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by NoEstablishment413

Hello Erika... despite sad farewells, veteran players like me and Vingummi, played hard for 7 years of this game. If it goes sunset, I wish that permanent final 7th season will remain as long as the final season won't end for COTLI (until it is delisted/closed down in few coming years, only time will tell as we don't plan on closing down the game, almost just yet), it is just (like or) as Starcraft 2 remained in game, even without support updates after the final one in 2020.

Hi NoEstablishment413,

Yup, there are definitely some hard core players in the community, and it's always amazing at how many players have been with us for the whole game.

Wilson was explaining to me that Season 7 will technically need to have an end date as it's just the way seasons are coded, but it will be set to be as "unending" as we can make it, which if I remember right was some time in 2031.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Starsteph100

Not sure if this is a bug, but the crusaders unlocked through the sunset DLC bundle didn't come with any EP, was this intentional?

R.I.P. COTLI, and thank you for keeping me sane for the last 18 months.

...sounds like a bug. I'll chat with Wilson about the best way to fix those EP.

Glad we could help with the sanity. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by CecilHoshino

I've been with Crusaders since the beginning, from Flash to Steam to the executable. It was a constant in my life for its full runtime, something I could sink a few minutes into every day, check up every couple of hours. I'm definitely sad to see it end, but that's because I have such fondness for it, and its charming designs.

Thank you for providing for seven years, and I want to wish the team all the best on their next projects. Much love.

<3

It's been a long and fun time with Crusaders for sure, and the eclectic nature of the design is a cool evolution.

Thank you for being on the adventure with us. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Brianp45344

I wish Lost Crusaders should be running afterwards... I hate to see game retired.... that means anyone cant play anymore... do there someone to replace Lost Crusaders? please advise...

Sunsetting in this context just means no more new content updates.

The game servers will continue running as long as possible, so players can continue to play.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Equivalent-Rub5714

I know this is probably a bit late now, but just in case this is seen - if this has been mentioned already, I've missed it and apologise, but will the Sunset dungeon have it's own season pass?

I've never bought one before (as technically this is the first season I've been able to play from the beginning of one), so was curious if I could throw some money down for the last hoo-rah!

I'm a relatively new player (227days) and actually preferred this to Idle Champions, but I wish everyone on the team well on their future journies!

Yes, there will be a Season 7 season pass for players to purchase if they wish.

Totally understandable. While there are some similarities between the games, there are enough different mechanics that may or may not line up with what players look for in idle games.

Thank you for playing Crusaders. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by RocketsBlastingOff

This is... extremely upsetting news. I've been playing Crusaders of the Lost Idols for years at this point, never in an "optimizing" way, but just in a slow, steady way that was fun for me. I figured I'd get to it all eventually, so what was the rush.

I don't regret my slow or unoptimized game play, but I'm still sad at the news. I hope the best for everyone who's worked on this game, and I'll probably keep plodding along as long as the game continues to run.

Slow and steady means there's still content to explore, so that's something to look forward to.

The servers will remain up for as long as possible, so you might be able to do it. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by neverenoughpurple

You've said the weekend buff promos are ending, but are the weekend buffs going to loop around in some way? Or will we just see their chests appear in the store at random?

The weekend buffs to Crusaders will not be happening either. We'll be changing the related Talent in the final content updates.

The existing chests will continue to appear in the various stores as they do now.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Zombagon

This is very late but if this is by chance seen, I would request legendary crafting scaling with the catalysts, at this rate with only 3 crafts a week I'm about a year or more away from all Legs. Just a thought,

Thanks again for crusaders my favorite idle game I've ever played!

We won't be changing the costs for Legendary crafting, but there's still the loop hole that you get a Free Craft coin as a disenchant if you have a Legendary version of the Golden Epics in the Challenge Token Store before you make the purchase of them. So that can help getting Legendary gear quicker.

You're welcome for Crusaders! Thank you for being part of the journey. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by WoodyTobiasJunior

BW2 (I miss Heidinay) was equal to this game. Best of luck in your future endeavors and thanks for the addictive times. Now I can go out and weed the garden!

Thank you for playing Crusaders. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by CyanMuffin

Thank you for making a great game! It truly helped me get through the pandemic.

That's awesome! We're glad Crusaders could help. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by dan-heron

well darn, I was gonna use the coloring sheets to practice digital painting, well I can still work on to the latest one as a farewell

it's been fun playing through all these years since the early months, sad there won't be new content it was always fun to see what new characters showed up. Just wanted to tell the people working that they did an amazing job!

As for questions, I hope it's not too late, did you have any crusaders in the making before the sunset was decided, and can we see them if there were? And is there any plan or ideas for a new game, or everything is going to Idle Champions?

We look forward to seeing the creation.

I'll pass it along to the team.

While being ahead in design and art would have been nice, for Crusaders we were really on the edge, doing things fairly close to the release date, so it's not like there's any concept art or Crusaders planned for past Nate's Candy Conundrum. Just like loose ideas, ie a plant-themed Crusader for Gardeners of the Galaxy is about as planned as that event was before we made the decision.

Everything will be focused on Idle Champions for the moment, but the studio would like to do a new game at some point in the future, so keep an eye out on the Codename socials for details when that happens.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by slylock215

Is there any way to get out of a mission archetype? I am new to the game and I picked the leprechaun mission and I completely F'd myself. I bought too many crusaders, I can't remove them from party, I'm in the negative for gold find and I went from having a great time before my reset to....well....this. Please help me!

How to leave an objective was answered in your thread with the same question.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Croq360

Okay, how about an alternative then? Hold a "sunset" sale. There are likely some things people would still like to pick up if they're gonna keep playing, and getting them at a discount would be a great gesture by CNE.

I'll discuss with the team having a sunset sale, and we'll see what happens. :)

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by JulizaLight

I was asking about the normal epics I haven't got them all for them. will they be in the jeweled boxes for Matt Spacewalker and Zephoralie

I'm really sad you are finishing I'll miss all the team good luck x

Ah, thank you for clarifying.

With Season 7 being basically infinite, you'll have lots of time to get Dungeon Coins to buy either the Dungeon Crusaders specific chests from the Dungeon store, or the random Epic recipes, to help gear them up.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by JuJuBee2006

Hopefully this question isn't too late to ask: with the sunsetting, will there still be rotating buffs to crusaders from Friday-Monday? I know weekly challenges have been set up to rotate, was hoping that 5 random crusaders would get selected each week after the sunset too...

Automatically applying the weekend buffs was something we discussed, but there are only a handful of Crusaders who have buffs that players liked, we decided against it.

We'll be changing the Weekend Warrior talent to something else, as there will no longer be weekend buffs to buff.

over 2 years ago - /u/CNE_Erika - Direct link

Originally posted by Brianp45344

hello Erika... would you ask your team to release objective Tier 6 and 7 plus 11th objectives for all campaigns before fully sunsetting?

No, we aren't planning on releasing any more permanent campaign objectives.

The final game update will be season 7.






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