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| 0s | favorite character Motif that you did |
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| 3s | I'd say timus cuz then I was able to |
| 5s | just take this like ball of of musical |
| 9s | goop and just like start pulling |
| 12s | different intervals and just expand on |
| 14s | it it felt like playing with Playdoh |
| 16s | it's pretty |
| 21s | cool welcome to forge eternum it is the |
| 24s | show where we talk about All Things New |
| 26s | World hello I'm Austin Dev I'm an audio |
| 30s | lead or the audio lead on new world if |
| 33s | you look at my background here you can |
| 35s | probably guess which |
| 37s | feature um I might have contributed most |
| 40s | to but I've done a lot of other like |
| 42s | Tech stuff and creature stuff and things |
| 44s | in the background that make the game |
| 46s | sound good this is a very special |
| 49s | episode with us we have Edward brenen |
| 51s | our composer for the soundtrack let's |
| 54s | see here Ed uh welcome first of all I |
| 57s | don't know if you'd like to give a |
| 59s | little bit of a a |
| 61s | background on yourself so the players |
| 63s | can get to know you I actually never set |
| 65s | out to become a composer for media um my |
| 69s | first thing was uh guitar and I uh |
| 73s | played Rock for a little while when I |
| 75s | was a kid until somehow I ran into jazz |
| 79s | and improvised music at large and that |
| 82s | was my trajectory um I was uh um back |
| 87s | then I lived in France which is my |
| 89s | country of origin um and I decided you |
| 92s | know the best thing for me would be to |
| 94s | somehow move to New York I I I thought |
| 96s | the the best thing the safest thing for |
| 99s | me would be to kind of do a little bit |
| 100s | of schooling and and see if I could get |
| 103s | some uh little bit of a network prior to |
| 105s | moving to this very big city and um I |
| 108s | went to Berkeley in Boston for about a |
| 111s | year and a half uh where I was a a |
| 114s | performance major meaning you know my |
| 116s | field of study was my instrument and |
| 120s | Jazz improvisation at large and um I'd |
| 123s | say the the best thing I got from |
| 125s | Berkeley was um kind of a blueprint on |
| 130s | how to keep going um and where I take |
| 133s | things from that point forward um which |
| 137s | ended up being super relevant for me |
| 139s | from being curious about music for |
| 142s | moving pictures and kind of having this |
| 146s | um hunger for trying things um |
| 151s | I turned what was my path as a |
| 154s | improvising musician to be that of a |
| 157s | composer uh it didn't happen overnight |
| 160s | but certainly uh uh something that uh um |
| 164s | kind of uh yeah just kind of happened |
| 167s | one step at a time that kind of cuts off |
| 171s | the the like who are who are you what's |
| 175s | the background we we skipped over a lot |
| 177s | of stuff but it might be a good launch |
| 179s | point for |
| 180s | talking about the alian |
| 186s | Wilds we were trying to figure out how |
| 189s | do we make this amazing art with the |
| 192s | like melium all these really cool dryad |
| 195s | creatures the |
| 197s | haene and then the story arc between |
| 200s | Artemis and the Beast Lords and the |
| 203s | player and give that all a shape music |
| 206s | supporting the |
| 207s | narrative um and also having it work |
| 210s | with the the other requirements of our |
| 212s | gameplay systems and and things like |
| 215s | that and I guess the first thing that we |
| 217s | were able to execute on was the 3D |
| 220s | cinematic and we at this point still |
| 222s | trying to figure out what are the sounds |
| 225s | of the expansion I I think the the 3D |
| 228s | catic was super important for us because |
| 232s | it's well first of all we were able to |
| 235s | kind of find the theme for Elian |
| 239s | Wilds in doing that research um and what |
| 242s | that meant for the emotional trajectory |
| 246s | of the expansion but more importantly |
| 248s | there's something that you wanted to |
| 250s | touch on with the music which was that |
| 254s | although some of these |
| 256s | characters do bad things their |
| 260s | motivations are generally |
| 262s | not |
| 264s | unpure um there's something that emis is |
| 267s | seeking that is not |
| 270s | fundamentally bad um there's a Humanity |
| 274s | to her even when they're not human |
| 276s | there's there's an element of uh uh of |
| 280s | neutrality there I say where where |
| 283s | nature isn't bad or good it just is and |
| 288s | we wanted the music to kind of have this |
| 290s | slightly more truthful aspect to it um |
| 296s | with regards to the emotion we wanted to |
| 298s | Showcase um it's not not something where |
| 300s | the music is casting a judgment it it's |
| 304s | if if anything it's it's highlighting |
| 308s | certain things and and the power of |
| 310s | nature and and what you know and the |
| 313s | idea that it's safeguarding itself to a |
| 316s | large degree that's what emis is about |
| 319s | right it's about safeguarding her view |
| 322s | of the natural world the the emis theme |
| 325s | I think is interesting uh it's it's got |
| 329s | a very simple melodic Motif in there |
| 333s | that is inverted and played with across |
| 337s | the uh the 3D cinematic the uh 2.5d |
| 341s | cinematics and then again in the boss |
| 343s | fight and that in collaboration with |
| 346s | like all the different instrumentations |
| 348s | there flush out the theme and like |
| 351s | they're shift they shift the light |
| 353s | around the character I thought that that |
| 355s | was just like a |
| 356s | fantastic way to show her evolution |
| 359s | ution as uh when you first meet her in |
| 362s | the early campaign to what she becomes |
| 366s | when she terraforms the whole Legion |
| 368s | Wilds yeah I'm looking at the session |
| 370s | with all the |
| 371s | stems the density of the music that was |
| 374s | delivered was pretty pretty intense and |
| 377s | a lot to go through and then there's |
| 378s | lots of little micro edits and |
| 381s | processing on each one of these to make |
| 384s | it sit with the uh the gamep playay my |
| 387s | favorite tune ended end up being the uh |
| 392s | the gorilla |
| 394s | fight like that one was a ton of fun |
| 397s | that's uh The Proving Grounds is that |
| 400s | track uh just cuz I think I think that |
| 403s | was inspired through a baritone |
| 408s | player that had a really really fun kind |
| 411s | of tribal chanting track that I heard |
| 414s | him like this is this is Gorilla music |
| 417s | and then you were able to go in there |
| 419s | and interpret that into what we have in |
| 422s | the game and it made the fight uh just |
| 426s | with the the Rhythm and motion of it all |
| 427s | fit together really well that's that's |
| 430s | my favorite thing I think in the whole |
| 431s | release did you have a track like that |
| 434s | where you're just like oh yeah that |
| 435s | that's that's the best one out of out of |
| 437s | the group I I like the the entirety of |
| 441s | the soundtrack honestly and for a |
| 443s | reasons that I think we should dive into |
| 445s | cuz for me it was a sort of a Creative |
| 448s | Discovery that was a little different |
| 449s | from what we from what I had done before |
| 452s | um in terms of process but I'd say if |
| 454s | there's any single queue that stands out |
| 456s | for me that' be a rage of the mammoth |
| 458s | where for this incredibly massive Beast |
| 462s | the biggest one in the game you have the |
| 465s | actually the most feminine approach to |
| 468s | sound and something that's incredibly |
| 471s | simple with this like kind of super |
| 474s | gooey synth on top and just those female |
| 476s | vocals with a very rhythmic approach to |
| 479s | things |
| 480s | uh based on rhythmic subdivisions and |
| 483s | can I ramble on that for a second let's |
| 486s | go for it all right this is this is a |
| 489s | fun music nerd thing it's um it's got |
| 493s | triplets it's got fives it's got fours |
| 496s | modulating between each other with the |
| 499s | female vocal and we went back and forth |
| 502s | about how we were going to use that but |
| 503s | like that sound of the vocal is like the |
| 507s | texture that we used for Artemis emis is |
| 510s | showing her influence over uh I was just |
| 514s | say |
| 515s | mam cuz I don't know how to pronounce |
| 518s | the actual Mahan Tran whatever they Nam |
| 520s | the the the |
| 522s | mammoth um but that female voice like |
| 525s | weaves in and out of the whole Suite of |
| 528s | music just to show that Artemis is there |
| 530s | and like there's different uh groupings |
| 533s | of instruments that do the same thing |
| 535s | for the other characters and yeah that |
| 538s | that track is really really cool awesome |
| 541s | awesome use of uh rhythm in it yeah and |
| 545s | then this idea that um you you can show |
| 549s | rage by sheer power and sheer muscle but |
| 552s | in this case it was really again you |
| 555s | know that conversation about what's her |
| 558s | true motivations what is she after and |
| 561s | the element of pain that that is within |
| 564s | her the thing that actually causes rage |
| 567s | you know the the the the feel I was |
| 568s | going for is that that that that |
| 572s | absolute shiny Red Rage that you you |
| 575s | could experience at times um and if you |
| 578s | drive in La uh you you'll you'll |
| 580s | experience it U at least a few times a |
| 583s | day uh but um all joking aside this um |
| 588s | this the the the way it kind of dulls |
| 591s | the senses and make make you feel |
| 593s | disorientated um you know so that was |
| 596s | that that shifting sense but |
| 598s | rhythmically this time not |
| 600s | harmonically and I guess |
| 603s | besides hitting the emotional uh uh |
| 608s | um precursor to everything that's |
| 610s | happening in the game one of the things |
| 612s | you wanted me to seek out in the music |
| 614s | was like hey let's make that exotic in a |
| 618s | way that is unique to eternum and I'm |
| 621s | hoping we w we went beyond that to |
| 624s | figure something out that was uniquely |
| 626s | Eternal recently we got our uh first |
| 630s | award for New World which is a Hollywood |
| 633s | music and media award and you wrote the |
| 637s | music for this and it's fantastic and |
| 641s | I'm pretty bewildered that we ended up |
| 644s | getting it against some of the games |
| 647s | that we |
| 648s | were uh just there's so much great work |
| 651s | so how do you feel with that uh I'm |
| 655s | incredibly humbled I fully expected not |
| 657s | to win um the awards took place in this |
| 661s | like old theater in Hollywood and I was |
| 664s | up on the balcony filming the |
| 666s | announcement and then they called my |
| 668s | name and I had to get up and run like |
| 672s | what felt like half a mile down uh and |
| 675s | and just cut through a crowd and go |
| 678s | backstage and stuff so took me a a good |
| 681s | 45 minutes to make it to the stage um |
| 684s | but it was uh it was really really |
| 686s | awesome um so Ed rapid fire back and |
| 689s | forth |
| 690s | yep favorite character Motif that you |
| 692s | did I'd say emus cuz then I was able to |
| 695s | just take this like ball of of musical |
| 699s | goop and just like start pulling |
| 702s | different intervals and just expand on |
| 704s | it it felt like playing with Plato was |
| 706s | pretty cool uh who would win the |
| 708s | gorillas or the Lions the gorillas |
| 711s | that's fair yeah I agree with that |
| 713s | favorite composer let's go with that |
| 714s | favorite |
| 716s | composer um I'll give you a few |
| 718s | different comp composers um I I'd go |
| 722s | with uh Revel sh sovic Pat |
| 725s | meini and um yeah let's go with those |
| 729s | three for now I appreciate that chopan |
| 731s | would be on my list for that actually |
| 733s | I'll throw in James Newton Howard huge |
| 735s | influence on me so Ed to wrap things up |
| 739s | here when players listen to the whole |
| 742s | soundtrack or experience it in game is |
| 744s | there a core feeling that you're like |
| 746s | this is what it was meant to be that |
| 748s | you'd want them to experience |
| 750s | that's a great question uh there are so |
| 753s | many things and like I said you know we |
| 755s | had to tap into so many different |
| 757s | creative muscles but if there's one |
| 759s | thing I think there's a spirit of |
| 761s | curiosity and awe that is there uh which |
| 767s | that is the first thing I experienced |
| 768s | when I got the footage from you when we |
| 770s | kicked things off I was like what am I |
| 772s | looking at uh and I'm hoping that the |
| 776s | music does its part in kind of bringing |
| 780s | that that feeling of curiosity and and |
| 782s | awe and and all that magical lend uh |
| 786s | around you and how exotic it should feel |
| 791s | to you well thank you very much Ed for |
| 793s | being here it's been wonderful having |
| 795s | this back and forth with you and |
| 797s | collaborating with you to get this music |
| 799s | out congratulations on getting the |
| 801s | Hollywood music and media award uh |
| 804s | that's just mind-blowing you deserve it |
| 807s | absolutely uh but this is going to bring |
| 810s | us to our community question which again |
| 814s | it is not going to be about balancing |
| 816s | the game we I don't I don't do that |
| 819s | don't ask in the comments I mean you can |
| 821s | but don't the community question this |
| 823s | week is if you're making a band but all |
| 826s | the players are animals and each animal |
| 828s | plays a different instrument what animal |
| 830s | would play what instrument what type of |
| 832s | music would they make and what would |
| 834s | that band be called have fun with it um |
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| 843s | the WAP on forged in aternum see you in |
| 846s | aternum Ed I'll see you in a tum see you |
| 849s | in turn a and thank you very much for |
| 854s | [Music] |
| 855s | [Applause] |
| 861s | [Music] |
| 865s | [Applause] |
| 866s | coming |