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| 0s | hello and welcome to this week's old |
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| 2s | school Q&A I am your host mod gambit I |
| 5s | am joined on the couch this week by mod |
| 7s | keyring Europe more - hello mod wolf |
| 11s | hello and on my left out more tween |
| 13s | hello and mod Matt K we don't have oh |
| 18s | also we have the one for mod Bruno on |
| 20s | chat don't forget to send your questions |
| 23s | in the chat ax is it Rs sorry out |
| 26s | runescape old school RS old school RS |
| 28s | and he'll it is that runescape send your |
| 33s | questions to a bruise gape in chat and |
| 34s | you'll pick those up so something I want |
| 41s | to talk about well actually gonna hand |
| 42s | over to mod tween and Matt K for this is |
| 44s | that exclamation mark big big so let me |
| 47s | start again |
| 47s | exclamation mark big blog will take you |
| 50s | to the blog the other day yeah will |
| 55s | bring you to the blog that we put live |
| 56s | the other day answering some of the sort |
| 59s | of hottest topics that you guys have had |
| 61s | and plugs I'm gonna hand over to mod |
| 64s | Sweeney Matt K to talk a bit more about |
| 65s | that and some of the questions that have |
| 67s | been wrong you guys so take it away I |
| 70s | mean we covered a lot in the yesterday's |
| 72s | blog so we try to assemble the couch |
| 76s | with a few of those who contributed to |
| 79s | it we don't have anyone from a support |
| 81s | but we've spoken to them about the |
| 82s | questions and feedback you had from the |
| 84s | blog so you've got some messages from |
| 86s | them to relate to you and I think we |
| 88s | just run through the feedback they want |
| 90s | it they wanted to give us and question |
| 92s | they want answers |
| 94s | yeah they support stuff first since okay |
| 97s | so we spoke to mod Kelvin mostly W mod |
| 99s | mix and what bento to the operations |
| 101s | team to play support I guess they had |
| 104s | their kind of free main questions or |
| 106s | three main pieces of feedback you guys |
| 107s | which is the first one was you've heard |
| 109s | it all before |
| 109s | which is very much true it's the same |
| 112s | for everything in a blog really not just |
| 114s | to play support stuff but also the |
| 115s | sections we wrote all we can do is try |
| 120s | to make it right this time and make it |
| 123s | work this time we have changed our |
| 126s | approach to it's no longer isolated in |
| 127s | that we're all different teams trying to |
| 129s | do different things at once by ourselves |
| 131s | but it all falls under a large project |
| 134s | which every part of the blog moves into |
| 137s | one big working group meeting together |
| 138s | yes I guess this is gonna sound very |
| 141s | technical and boring a project managing |
| 143s | but this is that we're doing it |
| 145s | differently this time we have one big |
| 147s | project which is just called sentiment |
| 148s | how do we make sure that you guys are |
| 150s | happy it all breaks down to little |
| 152s | projects that we've been talking about |
| 154s | and that's what constructed the blog in |
| 156s | itself these are all the issues that |
| 157s | you're talking about how do we address |
| 159s | each one of those needs one of those has |
| 160s | their owner different departments are |
| 162s | owned in their own departments there's |
| 164s | no point having content development |
| 166s | owning the sentiment for account |
| 170s | security for example because they're two |
| 172s | very different things but it all comes |
| 173s | together on one big banner of game |
| 175s | sentiment which is controlled from |
| 176s | within the team so we're making sure |
| 178s | that everything whether you're whole old |
| 180s | school team whether it's community |
| 182s | management whether it's platform whether |
| 184s | it's game bad development are all |
| 186s | pushing to to doing the right thing for |
| 188s | you and making sure that we move forward |
| 190s | on all of this stuff yeah spot-on |
| 195s | questionable stuff like what about your |
| 197s | offender case delay or case sensitive |
| 200s | passwords or longer passwords or symbols |
| 202s | in your passwords are those kind of |
| 203s | suggestions you've got for account |
| 204s | security so the reason they weren't |
| 207s | covered specifically is because they |
| 209s | fall under they're like the general |
| 211s | umbrella term of account security they |
| 214s | in their blog they address that they |
| 218s | know you're not happy with account |
| 219s | security and those are parts of yeah |
| 222s | what they want to cover |
| 223s | they mentioned surveys and blogs going |
| 226s | forwards and that's one now get into the |
| 228s | specifics of what you can expect such as |
| 230s | potential for authenticated relay or Kay |
| 233s | sensitive passwords and they do want to |
| 235s | kind of iterate that this will take of |
| 239s | all the customer support stuff mention |
| 240s | in the book this would take the longest |
| 241s | to get right and it'll be the hardest |
| 244s | resolved so in terms of timeline we |
| 246s | don't have one immediately for you but |
| 248s | it is work is already underway yeah it's |
| 251s | really difficult because account |
| 253s | security and it still is very difficult |
| 255s | because there's not an awful lot we can |
| 256s | say beforehand anyway because obviously |
| 258s | if we give you details of what's |
| 259s | happening then that sort of makes |
| 262s | account security |
| 263s | less so we've got to sort of talk about |
| 265s | quite carefully and obviously want the |
| 267s | experts to talk to you as well which |
| 268s | will be the player support people and |
| 270s | they'll be on this couch at some point |
| 272s | in the coming weeks and months to talk |
| 273s | more about it to you and you can have a |
| 275s | proper conversation with them and they |
| 276s | can give you the right information there |
| 278s | yep lastly there are lots of questions |
| 281s | about what we meant by toxicity in the |
| 283s | blog and in hindsight we probably could |
| 285s | have called it player behavior or |
| 287s | something more player-friendly rather |
| 289s | than as toxicity I mean that's quite a |
| 290s | industry term for how we want to look at |
| 293s | player behaviour to answer some |
| 295s | questions like will we go back to muting |
| 297s | players how we did in the early 2000s |
| 299s | we're not going to meet you for like AQ |
| 301s | pw's we're not we're not no that's going |
| 305s | to be in a Chapman |
| 308s | we don't really know what we mean by |
| 310s | toxicity we need to understand what you |
| 313s | consider to be toxic ah |
| 315s | do you like offensive language or just |
| 317s | being cast out if you're being crashed |
| 320s | do you consider that toxic or is it |
| 322s | people at the GE spamming incessantly |
| 324s | all day long is that more pressing is |
| 325s | that more toxic for you so we to |
| 327s | understand what you can see the toxic |
| 328s | what you want to be addressed and that's |
| 330s | one again we can work on addressing it |
| 332s | and it's pretty much it from Facebook |
| 335s | spective I think that what they covered |
| 337s | was quite expensive and one too many |
| 339s | questions relate apart from the |
| 341s | specifics about kind of security and |
| 342s | stuff yeah absolutely I think when |
| 346s | conversations continue with this and |
| 348s | when player support and start talking |
| 350s | directly with you guys and I think |
| 351s | that's when you're going to start seeing |
| 352s | to get a lot more detailed a lot more |
| 354s | understanding of what's going on so yes |
| 356s | they pinpointed three different blogs |
| 357s | and and each one will have a hopefully |
| 359s | more of a timeline for when you can |
| 362s | expect to see play facing stuff you can |
| 365s | really look at yeah it's not something |
| 367s | that we've we've not heard and not been |
| 370s | working on already this entire thing |
| 372s | it's not know this is a surprise to us |
| 374s | as it's not a surprise for you so we |
| 375s | have got plans in place we started |
| 377s | putting plans in place for this year |
| 380s | it's all about six months ago so we've |
| 382s | been thinking about this quite a lot |
| 383s | even before that a lot of work went on |
| 385s | as well so yeah so we are moving forward |
| 387s | we're just gonna be more open about it |
| 388s | with you guys going forward I think one |
| 391s | of the most encouraging things for me |
| 393s | about this from the player support angle |
| 394s | is the increase in visibility and |
| 396s | communication about what |
| 397s | to be done so I think the fact that |
| 399s | we're gonna release blogs explaining how |
| 401s | we're addressing the concerns as we go |
| 402s | it's only going well reassure you guys |
| 405s | that we are working on the things you've |
| 407s | raised and it looks very positive at |
| 409s | least from that perspective which is |
| 411s | yeah it's good indeed I didn't really |
| 414s | expect the positive reaction that we got |
| 416s | through the blog because like you said |
| 418s | it's not you know you've heard it all |
| 419s | before but I think it's plain to see |
| 421s | that you weren't expecting a quick fix |
| 423s | for all these things |
| 424s | you just wanted better communication |
| 430s | other stuff contest winners |
| 433s | will go through all the crab I didn't |
| 438s | think it was relevant for the blog |
| 440s | because it's doesn't directly impact you |
| 442s | in-game and it is only a small number of |
| 445s | players but it is still embarrassing |
| 447s | it's still problem like I hate seeing it |
| 449s | is an embarrassment in the past the |
| 453s | process for handling contest winners and |
| 455s | prizes was crap there's no |
| 456s | accountability the budget holder was an |
| 458s | entirely different department we've |
| 460s | ironed all that out going forwards I'm |
| 462s | totally confident that prizes and |
| 464s | contests will be resolved they should be |
| 466s | properly terms of outstanding prizes and |
| 471s | stuff if you're still wasting anything |
| 474s | email us at old school community Jagex |
| 477s | comm revere account name contest the |
| 480s | prize as much information you can |
| 482s | provide and retroactively Lee will sort |
| 483s | out going forwards it'll be much |
| 485s | smoother I'll be some checking for those |
| 487s | people who write in saying that they're |
| 490s | gonna fall out didn't I win one of those |
| 495s | [Laughter] |
| 497s | yeah we will have the necessary checks |
| 500s | we need to do okay we were there isn't |
| 503s | really a better way of going back to the |
| 506s | historical competitions and pricing |
| 507s | we've done over the years like I said |
| 509s | the process was pretty pants there's not |
| 510s | much documentation as I understand it |
| 513s | the people who actually had the |
| 514s | authority to transfer the funds were not |
| 516s | in the community team and therefore |
| 517s | wouldn't let early do it on request and |
| 519s | wanted a lot more verification did it |
| 522s | sound like your team's got more control |
| 524s | over that quite a thing that the budget |
| 525s | is now then I mean the players do care |
| 528s | wasn't part of the community budget we |
| 530s | have to |
| 531s | approval from other departments but the |
| 532s | budget is now winning community team so |
| 535s | this is a much smoother process that'll |
| 537s | sound a lot better polling it was a big |
| 544s | one |
| 544s | lots of questions about polling came up |
| 546s | there were lots of support from the |
| 548s | players actually for increasing the |
| 550s | visibility and accessibility of polling |
| 553s | so not necessarily just the one message |
| 556s | on the login check which is in the poll |
| 557s | live from the first login and then |
| 559s | nothing else people were suggesting |
| 561s | making it upon every login some people |
| 565s | suggested making it so you don't have to |
| 568s | visit a poll booth to vote you could do |
| 570s | it via another interface lots of |
| 572s | suggestions for incentives but then also |
| 574s | there were debunked by other players who |
| 576s | said no people would just spam yes spam |
| 578s | No |
| 579s | and ruin equality so they wouldn't solve |
| 580s | that problem themselves I think forcing |
| 582s | people to express an opinion when they |
| 583s | hadn't got one is not quite the help |
| 586s | that players would be looking for it's |
| 588s | making more access and more sounds like |
| 589s | sounds rather good |
| 590s | we actually offered when we first did |
| 592s | in-game polls to various things we could |
| 595s | do like building for the game frame |
| 596s | built into the welcome screen we've had |
| 599s | a survey in the most popular one by far |
| 600s | was booths so that's where we went but |
| 604s | it would actually have been easy to |
| 605s | stick a button on the game frame table |
| 607s | thematic work and which door was just |
| 610s | happy to if you want it and then the |
| 614s | inevitable was the lots of feedback |
| 616s | regarding hiding poor results but we you |
| 622s | might say just hide them but there are |
| 623s | other things we want to consider that |
| 625s | post and other things we want to look at |
| 627s | improving so we mentioned visibility and |
| 630s | accessibility there are suggestions for |
| 633s | just restricting votes dependent on the |
| 635s | type of content that comes with other |
| 636s | problems - such as how do you just |
| 638s | categorize what piece of content is how |
| 640s | is it inherently PvP or PBM then what |
| 643s | the actual requirements would be could |
| 645s | you find them could you gain them would |
| 648s | you want more transparency about the |
| 649s | work required for content would that |
| 651s | help better inform your vote could polls |
| 655s | act as a means of suggestions rather |
| 656s | than there's like a final say over |
| 657s | yes/no loss I mean we know that the chat |
| 662s | about yeah |
| 664s | I so it boils down to it you know what |
| 666s | is the purpose of the pole system that |
| 668s | is the fundamental question that we want |
| 671s | to answer I mean we think we have a |
| 672s | understanding what it should be and it's |
| 676s | all why I mean I'm happy to design this |
| 679s | one but I'm having to have sort of a |
| 680s | discussion here about what is the pole |
| 682s | system for I think it's there for us to |
| 684s | understand exactly what the players want |
| 686s | to put in game and that's the core |
| 688s | purpose of the pole system the solutions |
| 692s | to getting that as a thing in the pole |
| 694s | system being that it's some window when |
| 697s | there at the moment I mean if we look at |
| 698s | how many people vote in a pole this less |
| 700s | than 5% of the the members community in |
| 703s | itself there was 12 percent 12 percent |
| 705s | average for the lamins |
| 707s | so it's a tiny proportion of players who |
| 710s | actually tell us what what your 20 types |
| 713s | enter we knew telling us what you want |
| 714s | us to do and to me that makes me think |
| 717s | well is this really representative of |
| 719s | the players are we really servicing the |
| 721s | players and needs servicing do 88 |
| 723s | percent of you not care you know it's |
| 726s | it's it's a it's a very that's the |
| 730s | fundamental question to me and hiding |
| 732s | the poll results isn't going to solve |
| 733s | that and we need to look much more |
| 734s | deeper than that find out what the |
| 736s | actual problem is get the puck at the |
| 737s | pole so that people care about voting |
| 739s | know they can make a difference |
| 743s | what's the other one easily get to it |
| 745s | no they can make a difference and |
| 747s | actually they have something they want |
| 749s | to poll on I think that they're the |
| 750s | things that make it really interesting |
| 752s | to me that's not to say that hiding them |
| 754s | may not be a potential solution because |
| 756s | they're like you know just to respond to |
| 758s | the chat immediately there it could be a |
| 761s | potentially a solution right it's not |
| 762s | always saying it's not going to happen |
| 763s | but it's not I was saying it will happen |
| 765s | as well just uh there's a lot of |
| 767s | question marks as soon as you said no |
| 769s | there yeah it will fall under everything |
| 771s | else we want to do which me exactly it's |
| 773s | like at the point that's 12% like |
| 776s | there's that is really low something |
| 778s | that was like that's really highs like |
| 779s | no that's really really low and I don't |
| 781s | think just hiding the poll was like |
| 783s | don't get me wrong |
| 784s | hina poll results might solve what you |
| 786s | guys think you want to solve as well oh |
| 788s | god I said there you guys think thing |
| 790s | I've pulled the mobile things sorry I |
| 791s | didn't mean that but I I really don't |
| 795s | think that just having Paul was also |
| 795s | made her 12% of our active |
| 798s | you know current members vote jump to a |
| 801s | hundred or ninety all of a sudden |
| 803s | there's clearly another problem there as |
| 804s | well yeah I think the point where we're |
| 806s | making here is it's part of a wider |
| 808s | conversation about the polling system is |
| 810s | something we're taking into |
| 811s | consideration and looking at but there |
| 813s | is more to do in terms of understanding |
| 815s | like Matt okay says the polling system |
| 818s | as a whole what his purpose is and how |
| 819s | we get as many of you engaged in giving |
| 821s | your opinions on the content as possible |
| 823s | imagine right the PvP don't get what |
| 828s | they want through the polling system |
| 829s | that is one of the other fundamental |
| 830s | problems we need to solve is what is |
| 832s | that solution in there is it as you said |
| 835s | we only that PvP is to actually to |
| 837s | prolong content can we even do that can |
| 840s | we identify a PvP player or is it a |
| 842s | wider education piece PvP has this part |
| 845s | in the game if they don't get content |
| 847s | they leave which means it affects other |
| 848s | areas of the game it's it's a big |
| 851s | massive problem and and you guys have |
| 853s | your opinions obviously read it has |
| 856s | their opinions Twitter twitch chat will |
| 858s | have your opinions there's a people who |
| 860s | aren't talking to us they're really |
| 862s | scare me and that's what we need to get |
| 863s | into the into the realms of why I'm a |
| 865s | voting if they just don't want it as |
| 868s | fine we'll just carry on doing what |
| 869s | we're doing and we need to get that |
| 873s | answered like well I saw it in the chat |
| 878s | as well I have to see it yeah why aren't |
| 880s | people voting and I have seen because we |
| 882s | can see the results but again I I can't |
| 884s | really stress any further like 90% of |
| 886s | them a lot of people that aren't voting |
| 888s | and I'm not saying it's gonna be a |
| 889s | hundred percent it's never gonna be |
| 890s | hundred percent for sure but very low I |
| 893s | mean the first polls we did the first |
| 895s | one was one hundred and forty thousand |
| 897s | respondents or something of the sort it |
| 900s | was I think the first in-game poll with |
| 903s | guaranteed results that wasn't something |
| 904s | like naming a pub so seriously that was |
| 908s | a poll in our 2009 so it would get more |
| 912s | attention also nobody knew what old |
| 914s | school was going to be the first you |
| 915s | know month of it existing it was just |
| 918s | there and players all had their views |
| 921s | about which way it should go |
| 922s | and how we should run it even the 75% |
| 925s | threshold came out at the forum thread |
| 927s | yeah it's worth knowing when we're |
| 930s | talking about the number |
| 931s | players voting that it's mostly stayed |
| 934s | the same or dropped while the game has |
| 937s | grown we've you know a triple the size |
| 940s | of why we were a few years ago yeah it's |
| 942s | and the fact that new players have no |
| 945s | jump and voting means there's probably |
| 947s | more of a problem there as well of |
| 949s | course we understand that a lot of you |
| 952s | guys in the chat a lot of people that |
| 954s | are shouting on twitter and twitch to |
| 955s | you this your your reason might be well |
| 957s | I don't feel the need to vote I can see |
| 960s | its passing at night percent my votes |
| 961s | going to not change that and it might be |
| 963s | different if it's hidden of course it |
| 965s | might be but then there's more than just |
| 968s | the people in the twitch chat there's |
| 970s | more than just if you're on Twitter all |
| 971s | these new players who come into the game |
| 972s | don't necessarily watch twitch don't |
| 974s | necessarily use social media either and |
| 977s | we need a listen wire they're not |
| 979s | looking at the poor booth why they're |
| 981s | not actually voting themselves as well |
| 983s | studying we came back with we did a |
| 986s | survey on how many people actually use |
| 988s | read it and I think it's not 20 correct |
| 990s | me if I'm wrong here but 20% of plyers |
| 993s | read reddit and 5% vote on it or |
| 996s | something or post on it it's when it's |
| 999s | when it's because sometimes I'll see |
| 1001s | people tweet like oh well where do you |
| 1002s | where you find out information and |
| 1004s | they'll make a Twitter poll and Twitter |
| 1005s | will be number one like see Emily's |
| 1007s | speaking to us like this you're putting |
| 1008s | the poll on Twitter of course most |
| 1010s | people are going to respond Twitter on |
| 1012s | the Twitter poll or reddit when they're |
| 1014s | already like it's not really as high as |
| 1017s | your things I see I see hello people |
| 1019s | thing like we're trying to flex we're |
| 1020s | trying to fight we're not we yeah we |
| 1022s | just want to get the point where we |
| 1023s | actually have done research before |
| 1025s | making a call on a whim because a lot of |
| 1028s | people are showing for it yeah it's |
| 1031s | because worst case now I was in either |
| 1034s | case no could it could happen where we |
| 1036s | do just high poll results and it's going |
| 1040s | what are you hoping to achieve from |
| 1042s | those hiding poor resource is it making |
| 1044s | sure that more pvp things get through |
| 1047s | what if less went through or what if we |
| 1048s | want to get you want less of this thing |
| 1050s | through and actually gets more through |
| 1051s | by having them and stuff like that as |
| 1053s | well we we don't know how that's going |
| 1055s | to work |
| 1055s | so some things people want to achieve by |
| 1058s | hiding them include avoid people's |
| 1061s | opinions being skewed by seeing how |
| 1063s | other people feel up front |
| 1064s | now I don't know to what extent I knew |
| 1068s | as a voter when you're voting do you see |
| 1070s | lots of people feel this way I have to |
| 1072s | feel the same I have feel different I |
| 1074s | don't know if that's something that |
| 1075s | influences your thinking but hiding the |
| 1076s | results would get rid of that as a |
| 1078s | source of influence and another thing is |
| 1082s | the concern that my colleagues have |
| 1084s | covered if people choose not to bother |
| 1086s | voting say see which way the votes going |
| 1088s | already and don't feel like clicking on |
| 1090s | the thing yeah well that would certainly |
| 1095s | get rid of it as well whether it would |
| 1097s | introduce other effects I do not know |
| 1099s | apparently we have various concerns |
| 1101s | about it not helping with other problems |
| 1104s | with niche content I don't think it |
| 1106s | would help with niche content by the way |
| 1108s | if anyone's going out there to say I'm |
| 1111s | gonna down vote this because I hate that |
| 1112s | kind of content they can probably do it |
| 1114s | even without the encouragement from the |
| 1116s | existing results please don't do that so |
| 1118s | what the record is empty of that so yeah |
| 1123s | I think there was some stuff to be |
| 1124s | gained by hiding it but you understand |
| 1127s | why we're not making that decision right |
| 1128s | now we'll investigate we'll understand |
| 1133s | what's going to happen we'll understand |
| 1135s | what we're trying to achieve we |
| 1136s | understand what you guys want to achieve |
| 1137s | with the pole system and then we'll do |
| 1139s | the right thing we'll talk to you all |
| 1140s | the way through the process but let's |
| 1142s | make the right decision let's make it |
| 1143s | the pole system reflects what you guys |
| 1146s | want if that's what you want the pole |
| 1147s | system to be I think it probably is and |
| 1150s | we will get to the right solution two |
| 1153s | more sections we've got feedback from |
| 1155s | some players from yesterday's vlog and |
| 1156s | we crack on with the actual Q&A fixing |
| 1159s | how we coined it in the blog fixing old |
| 1161s | content or existing game content I think |
| 1165s | it's clear from your feedback to our |
| 1166s | section that there is a gulf between |
| 1167s | what we consider fixing existing content |
| 1171s | like you some some of the quality of |
| 1174s | life changes examples we offered you |
| 1176s | said that's not what we mean by fixing |
| 1178s | existing content so it looks like you |
| 1180s | want larger reworks to existing content |
| 1182s | a little bit much bigger projects and we |
| 1184s | envision so we need to make sure we |
| 1186s | align on what fixing existing content |
| 1189s | means weather is a call.month with lots |
| 1192s | of different changes or it's more |
| 1193s | substantial work undertaken on something |
| 1196s | specific |
| 1198s | finally PvP we spoke about our |
| 1202s | intentions for how we want to get the |
| 1203s | right game design and write changes and |
| 1205s | identify what we need to do first let's |
| 1208s | talk about what we've done wrong in the |
| 1209s | past I think we've spoken to the wrong |
| 1213s | people and we've asked the wrong |
| 1215s | questions |
| 1215s | historically always lots of confirmation |
| 1217s | bias by having the same people in the |
| 1219s | room not many players interested in game |
| 1222s | design we need to focus less on |
| 1225s | influencers and more natural players and |
| 1227s | not just people who still engage in the |
| 1228s | content that's where the confirmation |
| 1230s | bias comes from people have stopped |
| 1231s | engaging like what made them give up |
| 1233s | pvping six months ago and also asking |
| 1237s | players who have never PvP like what |
| 1239s | would be enough to entice them so talk |
| 1242s | to everybody rather than maybe a start |
| 1244s | focus on influencers we to work out what |
| 1247s | we're in trying to achieve so what do |
| 1248s | you want do you want more people to kill |
| 1250s | or do want more people to fight there's |
| 1251s | a very big difference and attacking |
| 1253s | somebody trying to get resources or |
| 1255s | someone who would be willing to fight |
| 1257s | back two very different things you want |
| 1259s | people be more accessible what you want |
| 1261s | it to just be refined with quality of |
| 1262s | life changes to make sure that the |
| 1264s | current audience can play it better so |
| 1266s | we need to find out what you want from |
| 1268s | it before we can have a piece of design |
| 1271s | really I think that's a really important |
| 1273s | point |
| 1274s | when it comes to PvP and getting more |
| 1276s | players into PvP you see a lot of |
| 1278s | suggestions where ultimately it's a |
| 1282s | little bit transparent you can tell this |
| 1283s | existing PK is you just want more |
| 1285s | targets which is not necessarily healthy |
| 1288s | for PvP overall in the long run whereas |
| 1291s | there are actual suggestions and ideas |
| 1292s | which are going to get more players |
| 1294s | excited and actually learning how to PK |
| 1296s | and fight back and that's I think what |
| 1298s | we want to focus on a bit more that's |
| 1299s | more healthy for PvP overall in the long |
| 1302s | run rather just engineer introducing |
| 1304s | incentives for example to PV amaz in the |
| 1307s | wilderness isn't necessarily good for |
| 1308s | PvP it just creates more sort of sacks |
| 1310s | of meat with the PK is to feast on |
| 1313s | rather than engage with so these are the |
| 1316s | kinds of things we're gonna start |
| 1317s | talking about and looking to fix i think |
| 1321s | that's covered it if there are still |
| 1323s | other questions you've got or feedback |
| 1324s | to give to the blog then you know how to |
| 1326s | reach us usual social channels I think |
| 1329s | there's a link at the bottom of the blog |
| 1330s | to two |
| 1330s | give your feedback all right so I guess |
| 1334s | that about wraps things up for the big |
| 1336s | blog like say it was an exclamation mark |
| 1338s | big blog in the chat will link you |
| 1340s | straight to the the blog that he puts |
| 1341s | out discussing all these sort of big |
| 1344s | questions that you guys have raised cool |
| 1347s | so I guess we'll move on then to sort |
| 1349s | the standard Q&A thank you very much for |
| 1351s | that Sween and Matt Kay hope we go into |
| 1356s | the questions |
| 1357s | there was one bit of content I wanted to |
| 1359s | ask yourself wolf about in particular |
| 1362s | which is the seed vault |
| 1364s | I know players have asked about this and |
| 1366s | sort of the progress where it's at for a |
| 1368s | while now and I think there's some even |
| 1370s | previews available if you look at |
| 1371s | Jagex Mars on Twitter she's um I think |
| 1374s | been posting about this one as let's say |
| 1376s | at Jax man has actually tweeted out a |
| 1378s | picture of the seed vault I think the |
| 1380s | other week last Friday so is development |
| 1382s | it's done development wise and now it's |
| 1385s | a waiting key way to take over we're |
| 1387s | currently just finishing off some other |
| 1389s | project stuff right now with dead man |
| 1391s | coming out and then the rework of the |
| 1393s | Sidious is being worked on and treasure |
| 1395s | Trailz as well and we have people on |
| 1399s | holiday as well so Seed Vault is just a |
| 1401s | little it's a few weeks away from us to |
| 1403s | pick up but then it will be picked up |
| 1405s | and in about three to four weeks |
| 1410s | ish maybe I don't give an exact date but |
| 1412s | around those around that timeframe you |
| 1415s | will have your seed vault that we |
| 1416s | promised thanks they go hopefully a bit |
| 1419s | closer to release we'll be able to show |
| 1421s | you guys what it looks like it is |
| 1424s | looking rather good I must say in terms |
| 1425s | of the interface work mod Mouse has done |
| 1427s | an excellent job I was really happy that |
| 1429s | you got the favorite thing working we |
| 1430s | were a bit worried she did yeah we were |
| 1432s | a bit worried that she couldn't get the |
| 1433s | we had a bit of struggle with favoriting |
| 1436s | seeds that you want to use to be at the |
| 1437s | top and she saw it out and it's it's |
| 1440s | exciting stuff what's your favorite seed |
| 1447s | favorite seed you know I haven't done |
| 1449s | much farming recently I haven't even |
| 1450s | engaged with the farming guild yet but I |
| 1454s | did used to do toadflax all the time I |
| 1456s | think I sort of the best like the white |
| 1458s | lilies okay ash what's your favorite |
| 1461s | scene um with Alec on the runner |
| 1463s | come on Kiran why we do this there you |
| 1468s | have many questions to get through today |
| 1469s | we have cool our first question is from |
| 1476s | gentle tractor who would actually like |
| 1479s | to give a shout-out to that's the player |
| 1480s | who suggested the everything well yeah |
| 1482s | everything but in particular the the new |
| 1485s | quest tab that we have the tap system |
| 1487s | within the quest tab section where you |
| 1491s | can flick between your minigames |
| 1492s | requests what are the other two |
| 1494s | minigames quest stories and the current |
| 1497s | favor that's the one so thank you for |
| 1499s | that design that's now in game it looks |
| 1501s | beautiful if I may say so fix something |
| 1504s | I know I'm not you're not forget this |
| 1505s | question answer you fix something about |
| 1507s | the embedding oh you know when you're |
| 1509s | doing a make or skinning thing you |
| 1511s | switch tabs currently it stops you |
| 1514s | skilling loop I've made it not do that |
| 1518s | coming out in tomorrow's update it's |
| 1522s | excellent |
| 1522s | so yes gentle tractor has asked what |
| 1526s | they say the OS RS team often get asked |
| 1529s | what they personally want but how about |
| 1531s | listening something you would never want |
| 1532s | to see in-game and why be it an old post |
| 1534s | oh seven piece of content a gameplay |
| 1536s | mechanic a reward etc bonus points for |
| 1539s | not the obvious answers like evolution |
| 1541s | of combat and MTX okay bonus points mmm |
| 1546s | so I like this question it's a good |
| 1549s | question but I forgot to think of an |
| 1551s | answer for it I thought oh good answer |
| 1553s | and then I totally remember don't think |
| 1556s | I'd want to see daily distractions and |
| 1559s | buy versions return I'm not a fan of |
| 1561s | feeling like I have to go and do that |
| 1563s | back on them hmm I did enjoy penguins |
| 1567s | that was a fun social that's fair |
| 1568s | I like content like necks akin to that |
| 1573s | boss type but when I think of reward |
| 1575s | spaces and stuff I definitely don't like |
| 1577s | the idea of health boosting armor being |
| 1579s | a thing that I don't like so I wouldn't |
| 1582s | want health boosting gamma to exist |
| 1585s | essentially that kind of stuff my dear |
| 1588s | mark my change was remembered summer's |
| 1592s | end came out and you had to go do the |
| 1594s | quest and |
| 1595s | to run into the core and you had to set |
| 1597s | fire to eight fires I think it was and |
| 1599s | if you got killed during that process it |
| 1601s | blew out with your fires you had to |
| 1602s | start again now it was later updated so |
| 1605s | they stayed light that really Wow me ups |
| 1608s | I never got that quest finished because |
| 1609s | it was so difficult to get those eight |
| 1611s | fires lit see how that never comes in |
| 1614s | never comes in sometimes and I'd love it |
| 1616s | but no not that part from there so I |
| 1620s | think spring to mind |
| 1621s | mod Kirin something you don't ever want |
| 1624s | to see in old school echo at three and |
| 1627s | third of our dailies mmm not a fan of |
| 1631s | feeling like I have to go through a |
| 1632s | chore list before I can play the content |
| 1634s | I want to play but I really don't like |
| 1639s | to be honest it's fair everything yes |
| 1645s | those avatars for clans so that gave |
| 1649s | benefits if you were training in their |
| 1651s | vicinity I'm okay with you know a clan |
| 1655s | Sina I would love to get a client system |
| 1657s | so we could you let you group and do |
| 1659s | what you want to do together more |
| 1661s | effectively but giving you benefits so |
| 1664s | that you get the optimal rates you must |
| 1666s | be in a clan with a group synchronized |
| 1669s | that I feel is not something I wanna see |
| 1672s | again I prefer that if you want to go |
| 1675s | and train you go train if you want to go |
| 1678s | do things together sure we should be |
| 1680s | able to give you a better system for |
| 1682s | engaging each other but not one that |
| 1685s | involves rewards for its 100% agree |
| 1689s | you shouldn't need an incentive for |
| 1690s | trying to client other than one integer |
| 1692s | clan right yeah that's fair it's worse |
| 1695s | for myself and I think it does work well |
| 1697s | in our s3 but I don't see it ever sort |
| 1702s | of working for old school is the idea of |
| 1703s | sort of elite skills whereby you have to |
| 1705s | have a minimum level in these other |
| 1706s | skills to access this new one I don't |
| 1709s | think that's that's something we could |
| 1710s | ever really feasibly do I prefer to be |
| 1713s | able to just work on any skill from the |
| 1715s | ground up from the start so that's |
| 1718s | that's my answer |
| 1719s | our second question is from |
| 1723s | kitty-kitty-kitty they asked is an |
| 1726s | appropriate username you'll see in a |
| 1727s | second okay they asked have you can |
| 1728s | opening Gertrude's cats the quest to |
| 1731s | free-to-play is a short novice quest |
| 1733s | with no requirements and cats would be a |
| 1734s | great beginner pet just as beginner |
| 1736s | clues will give free players a taste of |
| 1738s | clues cats can do the same for pets can |
| 1741s | do what's the point of having them cat |
| 1744s | you can't turn him into death rooms if |
| 1745s | you know remember that's the only point |
| 1747s | of them right well |
| 1748s | pets are fun they're just having you're |
| 1750s | having a nice follower the lumberyard |
| 1754s | you have to go into that as that members |
| 1758s | it's not a sticking point we I think |
| 1761s | we've said you made a members area |
| 1762s | because you had the cat how much did it |
| 1763s | it's not in a members area sorry it's on |
| 1765s | a free area to cut off all the fencing a |
| 1769s | stuff that's pretty quite there I don't |
| 1771s | mind playing players having kittens I |
| 1773s | like it Hello Kitty we could we could do |
| 1778s | that or we could do new content for free |
| 1781s | to play that gives them a bit more |
| 1782s | tangible benefit we talked about the |
| 1784s | agility skill as a limited thing some |
| 1788s | weeks ago on this QA at the time we were |
| 1790s | addressing the fact that it's quite hard |
| 1792s | for well you know if you've got level 1 |
| 1794s | agility your energy is not a nice thing |
| 1797s | and that's why when we start up a dead |
| 1800s | man thing people probably leg it to the |
| 1802s | known stronghold area we see on the heat |
| 1804s | maps so agility with some way of |
| 1809s | training it in the free to play area but |
| 1812s | either place and suggest something just |
| 1816s | having it limits is you can go too high |
| 1817s | other said let them do it as high see |
| 1819s | like but but the only training facility |
| 1821s | is quite low level it might help with |
| 1824s | the transport thing that's so annoying |
| 1828s | if I remember rightly I don't know if we |
| 1830s | have it about years ago if you had |
| 1833s | agility |
| 1834s | still affected you're free to play game |
| 1835s | but you actually still the case or the |
| 1838s | case it's still the case yeah yeah |
| 1840s | probably not the help that are free to |
| 1842s | play people are looking for unless of |
| 1843s | course the messages subscribe mind you |
| 1846s | um if you'd like to subscribe please |
| 1848s | stick but um that's probably not what |
| 1851s | they're looking for here yeah so I mean |
| 1853s | that sort of takes away the worry about |
| 1855s | I mean limiting it's a certain X amount |
| 1856s | of level |
| 1857s | because people can use it anyway mm-hm |
| 1859s | leagues of benefits although as far as |
| 1861s | benefits going free-to-play I think |
| 1864s | generally speaking I quite like the idea |
| 1865s | of low-level content in members becoming |
| 1869s | available to free-to-play where |
| 1870s | appropriate I think things like this |
| 1872s | very nice example where it's giving a |
| 1874s | taste of something something more that |
| 1875s | is on the other side so to speak |
| 1877s | yeah I've been heat up oh because um |
| 1879s | like one of you were saying we could |
| 1881s | give him the cat thing you could look |
| 1882s | for something useful I mean the cat |
| 1886s | thing maybe happen wandering around with |
| 1889s | a pet behind you especially one that's a |
| 1890s | bit more interactive like an old |
| 1891s | Tamagotchi might be ahead hundred |
| 1895s | members those might be of interest to |
| 1898s | free-to-play but something useful I |
| 1900s | would look to the agility skill we got |
| 1902s | any free-to-play or people who only have |
| 1904s | free-to-play accounts and the chat got |
| 1906s | any idea interesting any interesting |
| 1912s | ideas what would be useful they want to |
| 1914s | know if you were in the chat I wanted |
| 1916s | you to tell me if there's anything |
| 1917s | everyone in the set I'm guessing not |
| 1921s | because nose actually talked to any |
| 1922s | ideas in there so they were farming yeah |
| 1927s | got to get them potatoes yeah absolutely |
| 1932s | dungeoneering free-to-play pvm us an |
| 1936s | interesting ones got a couple of free |
| 1937s | play boston and i would be glad to |
| 1940s | continue that the Giants series yeah |
| 1941s | partly because we don't do a lot of |
| 1943s | mid-level stuff of that nature what do |
| 1946s | you guys think about that what if we did |
| 1947s | a whole bunch of extra free-to-play |
| 1949s | bosses and maybe some mid-level paid |
| 1951s | five bosses as well would that be |
| 1953s | something that you guys all Goblin King |
| 1955s | I like that idea |
| 1955s | I Steinbach I was just thinking that the |
| 1957s | same way we introduced introduced the |
| 1959s | most iron boss a nice time one would be |
| 1961s | cool alright yeah because the Isis |
| 1964s | dungeon is paid pay isn't it's the wife |
| 1971s | and bit that's members only |
| 1972s | that's right that's right about the |
| 1975s | public haven't been a free-to-play |
| 1976s | player in probably 15 years it's the |
| 1978s | part of notes are what you do it is a |
| 1980s | little level and you're like oh yeah |
| 1983s | classic because once you go into combat |
| 1986s | you couldn't run a 4-3 tip for three |
| 1988s | rounds of combat it's funny about yeah I |
| 1990s | hear you |
| 1990s | the worst pickaxe in the world and for |
| 1992s | some reason blew right takes forever to |
| 1993s | mine purposefully for this case like |
| 1995s | come on come on come on like a knight or |
| 1997s | wonder over to you it's really trying to |
| 1999s | get them stuck on the rocks that they're |
| 2000s | not yeah it's almost a really |
| 2001s | interesting thing free-to-play |
| 2002s | wilderness boss interesting ass |
| 2005s | interesting idea I'll move on we've got |
| 2011s | one from low hend who wants to know if |
| 2015s | we can give added things to bellona's |
| 2018s | store from the mining guild like clay |
| 2020s | packs or the gem sack or something |
| 2022s | similar they noticed that and identified |
| 2024s | minerals are not useful after you have |
| 2027s | 240 of them for the expert mining clubs |
| 2029s | that makes sense |
| 2030s | it's a consumable that you get |
| 2032s | continuously even after you've bought |
| 2034s | the gloves why not hmm |
| 2038s | yeah no I mean oh if I see any problem |
| 2040s | with it I heard that suggestion yeah |
| 2042s | cool it's d cog has said can we see more |
| 2050s | unique teleport animations for the diary |
| 2052s | teleports disappearing into a self event |
| 2055s | for the Mount Kurama teleport for |
| 2056s | example hmm the Mauretania desert and rd |
| 2059s | teleports have unique animations while |
| 2061s | the others don't I |
| 2064s | my favorite quality of life all the time |
| 2067s | is the graphical stuff that we do like I |
| 2069s | don't I don't even know why but like the |
| 2071s | Zarek's teleport being up there it was |
| 2073s | the one that was cool we've got the |
| 2075s | model for a unique amulet that's cool |
| 2077s | and they're relatively small ex jobs |
| 2078s | it's just when we get the time for them |
| 2080s | but like I like that I don't like it |
| 2082s | when it's you when it uses a generic |
| 2083s | Farrell teleport for something like I |
| 2085s | like the ecto for this one we get |
| 2086s | crawled into slime mmm it's cool know |
| 2089s | what ghost first animation job was yes |
| 2093s | the cow oh yeah the amazing cow a cow |
| 2097s | teleport yeah that's the one where he'd |
| 2101s | been trained by the iris three artists |
| 2102s | on you know how to use the tools and how |
| 2105s | to come with a really cool idea but the |
| 2108s | RS three artists had not briefed him on |
| 2110s | how old schools rendering is completely |
| 2113s | different to RS 3 so he got this great |
| 2115s | idea for a size 3 animation with a |
| 2117s | dancing cow walk around you and then was |
| 2121s | stuck with so how do you make one of |
| 2122s | those in a game where |
| 2124s | only things in your tile can render |
| 2126s | correctly and that's not the ideal way |
| 2130s | round to go about it using any other |
| 2132s | cool stuff other plant goes when the cow |
| 2135s | Keys following yeah that's what you |
| 2138s | should do because you know regular cow |
| 2140s | is something all games need yes dude |
| 2143s | anyway yeah I've got a question what I'm |
| 2146s | look like the clip yeah somebody got |
| 2150s | intelligent out there well done and the |
| 2153s | crap blue community yeah you've been |
| 2155s | defeated in record time sorry I'm quite |
| 2160s | having it is quite nice to actually see |
| 2162s | it solved because even though you know |
| 2164s | there is this great feeling of watching |
| 2166s | people get frustrated when they're not |
| 2168s | getting towards the answer having it |
| 2171s | solved it's like well it worked that was |
| 2173s | a thing a year this year yeah I think we |
| 2179s | need to do a stream on one of these |
| 2181s | don't go through the how you solve it |
| 2182s | because they very forced a few things |
| 2184s | here and there |
| 2184s | didn't quite solve it also give another |
| 2186s | couple of weeks link and maybe do |
| 2188s | something on here well show you the |
| 2189s | answer how it's supposed to be done as |
| 2191s | goods the correct the clue community |
| 2193s | grew massively this time around as well |
| 2194s | then we set a good precedent and we |
| 2196s | actually tried to plug where this court |
| 2198s | tried to plug this up right yeah |
| 2199s | absolutely it's such a positive place to |
| 2202s | be I think for the last sort of six |
| 2204s | weeks or so when they're all working |
| 2205s | towards something even talking to |
| 2207s | martyrs like I made loads of new friends |
| 2208s | now and just that aspect of people |
| 2210s | coming together to solve something and |
| 2212s | all working towards that map solution |
| 2215s | was just great to watch wasn't quite |
| 2216s | sick but yeah it wasn't quite a bit it |
| 2218s | wasn't quite a month oh he looks like |
| 2220s | February next time we'll just have to be |
| 2225s | a bit will be at Sparta next time I |
| 2227s | think I think the reason it took so long |
| 2229s | previously compared to this one is that |
| 2231s | we kind and you this time you need |
| 2232s | objects and you go to a location do will |
| 2234s | be somewhat different this next time |
| 2235s | well it's the first time we've had them |
| 2237s | do multiple u-boats in a row yes we also |
| 2240s | it's the first time that like I believe |
| 2242s | it's us and that we had it so like we |
| 2244s | tried to live in brute force you know |
| 2245s | you can't wear that stuff and only have |
| 2247s | this stuff and yeah to try and stop it |
| 2248s | but it's still there wasn't enough so |
| 2250s | next time we'll have to do something |
| 2250s | entirely different no objects something |
| 2252s | completely different that you won't even |
| 2253s | have any clothes oh okay maybe there |
| 2257s | will be object |
| 2257s | I don't know I don't know a few threes |
| 2259s | gonna be I'll definitely be objects I've |
| 2263s | got some ideas but I have a couple as |
| 2265s | well but I doubt a serie up the devious |
| 2268s | meter yes the next one animal a sticks |
| 2273s | wants to know if the collection log and |
| 2275s | boss logs can be accessible via menu |
| 2278s | rather than an item yes if we've got to |
| 2283s | find our menu place to put say poll |
| 2285s | booth button then it could have other |
| 2289s | things as well |
| 2290s | I believe the suggestion originally from |
| 2292s | general tractor when we updated that |
| 2293s | interface with potentially pop it not |
| 2297s | the poor one B&O collection of there |
| 2300s | yeah all we could add it to the account |
| 2302s | section yeah I think laughs in that |
| 2304s | account want to be a player profile type |
| 2307s | thing so you can we collection logs on |
| 2309s | there you can have your voting's thing |
| 2310s | on there you have your count stuff on |
| 2312s | there as well but maybe repurposing out |
| 2314s | probably the right way to go make a bit |
| 2316s | more useful sure and I do like the idea |
| 2318s | of doing it that I mean while it's |
| 2320s | called to have the item it makes it |
| 2321s | slightly less obvious to find the |
| 2324s | players I think it's a worthy thing to |
| 2327s | have in the interface absolutely |
| 2329s | team wants to know our thoughts on |
| 2331s | buffing the Charis dagger to be best in |
| 2334s | slot against insect monsters similar |
| 2337s | sort of Arclight for demons sure be |
| 2341s | laughs previous suggestions were having |
| 2343s | the dagger is an attachment to some sort |
| 2345s | of spear one they even had that weapon |
| 2347s | well being able to use it on the |
| 2349s | cardfight queen's flying form which I |
| 2351s | think have been part of that cuz she's |
| 2354s | up there but yeah and you can't hit her |
| 2356s | with a normal spear if you stick this |
| 2358s | wiggly dagger thing on the end of the |
| 2359s | spear then you can just about where it's |
| 2361s | just about rings it's man again I think |
| 2364s | I think my wife's we put it in game in |
| 2365s | wagon sin in the mid skills somebody's |
| 2368s | holding the weapon wit sorry I can |
| 2370s | actually make the items of people's |
| 2372s | house oh no the models knows what I mean |
| 2374s | he sure does like his foreshadowing mmm |
| 2376s | he does look up volleyball what are you |
| 2378s | about it didn't I say I'm some some |
| 2384s | ninja film type things |
| 2386s | a massive knife on the end of a massive |
| 2389s | long chain |
| 2389s | people were using some sort of hidden |
| 2391s | crap hidden tiger traps and dragon-type |
| 2393s | for film well in daredevil season one |
| 2397s | there's a episode in which you reel up |
| 2398s | against the guy who's got a really big |
| 2400s | spiky hook thing on the end of a chain |
| 2402s | which looks quite painful from what |
| 2404s | happens that episode I don't know the |
| 2407s | word fail was part of the taste of Hope |
| 2413s | question oh we did yeah what sort of |
| 2417s | line is it a long one with also it's |
| 2419s | just got the little thing on the end of |
| 2420s | it rather than long shank oh yes it's a |
| 2423s | stick with a chain in the hook on the |
| 2426s | end I'd like to go down the whole |
| 2427s | Morningstar room and have that sort of |
| 2428s | weapon going on as well I don't like |
| 2431s | bendy weapons they're not the best |
| 2434s | animated things in our games have you |
| 2436s | ever remember they do not remember when |
| 2438s | we were first introducing the wilderness |
| 2440s | mace what it calls the gorras the Gora's |
| 2443s | and the original animation who like it |
| 2445s | was bendy and everybody hear it yeah |
| 2449s | that's why we don't do things unchanged |
| 2450s | usually moving on our next question is |
| 2457s | from cloud tears I'm gonna start being |
| 2461s | more selective with the questions I |
| 2462s | realize we're actually running out of |
| 2463s | time very quickly this person asks if |
| 2465s | chatting publicly on agility courses |
| 2467s | could be made so that you're hearing |
| 2469s | other players wherever they are on the |
| 2471s | course rather than having to have them |
| 2472s | within your sort of vision range just to |
| 2475s | make the Genesee a bit more social so of |
| 2478s | course different levels if you climb up |
| 2479s | with yeah I think levels also just sort |
| 2483s | of increasing like like I say that the |
| 2485s | range because current if you can't see |
| 2486s | them on your screen they won't quote |
| 2488s | unquote hear you in the public chat well |
| 2491s | the engine lets us do it for an entire |
| 2493s | instanced area agility courses are |
| 2496s | currently not an instanced area and it |
| 2497s | would be yeah quite a big deal to try |
| 2501s | and make it turn into one because |
| 2502s | especially when you walk to the edge of |
| 2504s | it yeah I'm not optimistic about that |
| 2506s | one sorry about the floors costs |
| 2510s | different floors as well well this is |
| 2512s | the thing like that CPT sensor yes okay |
| 2516s | even items like do you respawn them when |
| 2519s | you join the instance so it does the |
| 2520s | instance even exists if lots of people |
| 2522s | aren't there because it |
| 2523s | each instance instantly disappear if |
| 2525s | nobody's in it there's a lot of tech |
| 2526s | problems okay all right I'm probably not |
| 2528s | going to be able to get that one done a |
| 2529s | rice and net it asks if we can have |
| 2533s | different colored Mac escapes for each |
| 2536s | Ironman mode so then we have an image |
| 2540s | for this which we're going to be showing |
| 2542s | there it is |
| 2543s | looks so good it's an Ironman |
| 2545s | suggestions so there's gonna be floods |
| 2547s | of nose in the chat but I actually think |
| 2548s | these look very cool she wants our |
| 2550s | sorting out the pole system it looks |
| 2553s | very cool what do we think about how |
| 2555s | many maxed ultimate Iron Men are there |
| 2558s | enough to warrant how cool that in game |
| 2562s | that is one of those you know what |
| 2566s | happens if you do and you lose it |
| 2568s | yes you would well we already do that |
| 2571s | with the with the stuff so it's not |
| 2575s | unreasonable I think they're really cool |
| 2576s | I think they look great particularly the |
| 2578s | hardcore one I think probably my |
| 2580s | favorite verse 17 much the ultimate |
| 2585s | 17:17 people that have a really cool kit |
| 2587s | then yeah that makes it extra |
| 2589s | prestigious but it's fair enough for ya |
| 2592s | you want strawpoll it yeah if we can do |
| 2595s | a strawpoll mod Bruno it's not a lot to |
| 2600s | object to yeah I mean people there's a |
| 2604s | lot of max caps and we even ourselves |
| 2606s | sometimes complain there's a lot of them |
| 2607s | buy especially when it's locked and |
| 2608s | anyway you'd have taken away from you if |
| 2610s | you were on that kind of account it |
| 2611s | would automatically be removed it |
| 2613s | wouldn't appear in your other things as |
| 2614s | well I wouldn't appear in your player on |
| 2616s | houses you can't get this as a regular |
| 2617s | player we'd probably take it make it |
| 2619s | take up the slot or the max cap and |
| 2620s | stuff so it wouldn't be intrusive to |
| 2622s | regular players we can make that the |
| 2623s | case it looks cool cool sounds like we |
| 2628s | very cool we generally like it like a |
| 2630s | max alone scape yeah yeah I really like |
| 2635s | the ultimate IMM one a lot enough to |
| 2639s | play altameyer man max would you lock it |
| 2642s | in our reel it takes us like what seven |
| 2644s | thousand hours I think |
| 2645s | dude what altima tie a mentor in her |
| 2649s | blow the painful experience right so |
| 2653s | while that straw polls going I'm gonna |
| 2654s | move on to the next question |
| 2655s | from |
| 2656s | safety first hold my beer I think good |
| 2659s | name they ask are you guys going to |
| 2662s | address the issues with the bottomless |
| 2663s | compost bucket firstly you get two |
| 2666s | charges per bucket if you add bucket of |
| 2668s | compost individually but if you try to |
| 2671s | take it from the compost bin |
| 2672s | you only get one charge secondly when |
| 2675s | using the bottomless compost bucket |
| 2677s | while the Attis plant is growing it |
| 2679s | seems to produce fewer herbs than a |
| 2680s | normal run would with ultra compost I |
| 2683s | thought you already fixed that first one |
| 2685s | longer yes the first one I'm pretty sure |
| 2687s | he did but maybe not not going in the |
| 2690s | chair yeah please |
| 2693s | okay what in terms of the other thing |
| 2696s | you should certainly shouldn't be |
| 2698s | getting less herbs okay |
| 2700s | they're completely two separate systems |
| 2701s | mod Rock and I went looking for that bug |
| 2703s | a long time a while back and we couldn't |
| 2706s | find it I couldn't find it in the code I |
| 2709s | put in some debug and still couldn't |
| 2710s | find it he tried it with in-game and |
| 2713s | while he thought he'd found it by |
| 2714s | setting his variables the right thing |
| 2715s | turned out that was not the right thing |
| 2717s | so and so I think you've looked at the |
| 2720s | code soon I'm afraid I got left on that |
| 2723s | one so far we've had a we've had a few |
| 2725s | quite a few apart from that one it's |
| 2727s | just if we can't like consistently |
| 2731s | replicate it we can't find the issue |
| 2735s | we've come Scout cold so I got some |
| 2737s | extra data players whatever about it |
| 2738s | like to confirm use the bucket on the |
| 2741s | thing did you could you please inspect |
| 2744s | it see whether it thinks it got |
| 2745s | composted because if it hadn't been that |
| 2747s | would tell us so that the bucket didn't |
| 2749s | compost it and that's why you're not |
| 2750s | getting what you should be but they've |
| 2753s | confirmed for me that no it really did |
| 2754s | compost it with Ultra compost as well so |
| 2758s | that means it must be something like the |
| 2760s | patch but I still can't find it though x |
| 2763s | is just well difficult and like take the |
| 2768s | cydia strange being too good I couldn't |
| 2772s | find out other devs when looking forward |
| 2774s | and couldn't find it eventually given |
| 2775s | was rewriting all of cooking and spent |
| 2779s | long enough on that code they actually |
| 2780s | did work out what was going on there but |
| 2782s | you know I could have looked it for a |
| 2784s | year not found it |
| 2788s | on the subject of farming our next |
| 2791s | player towel cat I think is one of the |
| 2793s | editors for the Oscar wiki wants to know |
| 2796s | if we can get the disease and yield |
| 2797s | rates of each farmable herb and how they |
| 2799s | scale with level is that complicated |
| 2804s | question I'll use it I'll use the stat |
| 2806s | random well they're awful weird rates |
| 2809s | don't understand what they're trying to |
| 2812s | do right the numbers they've chosen |
| 2814s | originally but yeah so it wouldn't be |
| 2817s | easy to present that info doesn't even |
| 2820s | have a random calculator that we have |
| 2824s | play look familiar with there being a |
| 2826s | chance at wonder the chance of 99 into a |
| 2828s | place in between yeah because we've told |
| 2830s | them that kind of thing in off times we |
| 2832s | could give them eternal rest I guess but |
| 2834s | it's a lot of lots of it so thing |
| 2839s | doesn't translate into a number of herbs |
| 2841s | I though from it you could calculate |
| 2843s | what youth was what your statistically |
| 2846s | likely to get is a distribution but we |
| 2848s | should be able to export them with quite |
| 2851s | a bit of trawling the chance level one |
| 2854s | the chance at level 99 and let them |
| 2856s | interpolate for themselves they're good |
| 2858s | at that |
| 2858s | hmm okay so that's something we might be |
| 2860s | able to sort out for you guys yeah |
| 2862s | direct but the reflux cells our next |
| 2868s | question is from that one guy and he |
| 2871s | asks if we'll ever bring back fan |
| 2873s | favorite mini games such as Sol Wars and |
| 2875s | stealing creation with revamped rewards |
| 2877s | and a second part of the question is how |
| 2879s | do you think the community would respond |
| 2881s | and how it might affect old school we |
| 2883s | had exactly that conversation a few days |
| 2886s | ago didn't we so we constantly look at |
| 2889s | new updates that we could do in the |
| 2890s | future and we try and assess them and |
| 2892s | see what's worthwhile doing we looked at |
| 2894s | stealing creation didn't we yep and the |
| 2901s | I think the biggest issue that came to |
| 2903s | us from that and again jumping if I get |
| 2905s | this wrong sleek new to the bacon very |
| 2907s | winning was that we have to do stealing |
| 2911s | creations significantly differently |
| 2912s | because what happened last time was it |
| 2915s | turned into a almost like |
| 2918s | you have to do it in the most efficient |
| 2920s | way possible to get the best benefit |
| 2923s | from it and almost manipulate the game |
| 2924s | to get to get the rewards you want from |
| 2926s | it which some people do enjoy absolutely |
| 2930s | as some cohort players do really enjoy |
| 2931s | that but it turned it off for the rest |
| 2933s | of the players larger group of players |
| 2935s | who wanted to play it for the farm and |
| 2937s | found out they no longer became fun and |
| 2939s | of course I mean the big biggest issue |
| 2941s | with it is that you could pickpocket one |
| 2943s | Brom potatoes from people watching this |
| 2960s | who knows we might accidentally spawn a |
| 2964s | twisted bug yeah the issue is that if |
| 2967s | the rewards the clay tools aren't good |
| 2971s | enough you probably won't play it if |
| 2974s | good enough to warrant playing then |
| 2977s | you'll probably try and play it in a |
| 2978s | most efficient way and we're playing a |
| 2979s | mini game for fun mmm just kind of |
| 2983s | defeating a point of the update so we'd |
| 2985s | have to change the rewards and the |
| 2987s | gameplay massively then does it not |
| 2989s | become stealing Croatians anymore and |
| 2990s | it's something else |
| 2991s | doesn't have the nostalgic factor and |
| 2993s | won't be as impactful yeah I wonder I |
| 2996s | wonder how many of the requests of these |
| 2998s | a really popular one that comes up a lot |
| 2999s | I wonder how many people are suggesting |
| 3001s | it because they remember the nostalgia |
| 3003s | and the feeling of playing stealing |
| 3004s | creation back in the day but not |
| 3006s | necessarily realizing that the player |
| 3008s | base has changed since then they have |
| 3010s | less time to play and they're doing |
| 3011s | other things so it is more about |
| 3013s | efficiency than it was and less having |
| 3014s | fun playing minigames and that that |
| 3016s | might change how players actually |
| 3018s | interact with the content now so it's |
| 3020s | hard to know that kind of thing and he |
| 3021s | definitely has to be considered when |
| 3023s | we're looking at designs for this sort |
| 3024s | of thing I didn't come here for the feel |
| 3027s | if I came with a question well we're |
| 3031s | hardly gonna tell the place you think |
| 3032s | you want that minigame but you don't |
| 3034s | however we genuinely would have trouble |
| 3037s | getting the assets recreated for it soul |
| 3039s | Wars is a bigger problem for that it had |
| 3041s | so many more elaborate models and |
| 3043s | animations but stealing creation had |
| 3045s | quite a few and its |
| 3048s | we found before that if we give players |
| 3050s | back some contents and say we've given |
| 3052s | you back what you had in the free EOC |
| 3054s | days I don't look like it did they do |
| 3057s | not like it I mean they knew we've tried |
| 3061s | this and the feedback was overwhelmingly |
| 3063s | negative and we've done that kind of |
| 3064s | thing so it does seem expected that we |
| 3067s | try and get the look right and that is a |
| 3068s | problem because recreating the Corp took |
| 3073s | several weeks which consists of two NPCs |
| 3078s | a couple of projectiles and we didn't |
| 3081s | actually recreate the cave accurately we |
| 3083s | just used an existing cave mod cave wall |
| 3085s | model and copied the shape credit the |
| 3088s | mod reach for that he'd come hop in the |
| 3090s | shape precisely right up to the western |
| 3094s | wall which was a great big line because |
| 3095s | that's the edge of the map square but |
| 3098s | apart from that I do not think we could |
| 3101s | make a soul Wars that looks that you |
| 3104s | feel with soul wars and even if we could |
| 3107s | do it receiving creation give or taking |
| 3109s | a bit where it had familiars back in the |
| 3110s | day the reward design can be awkward |
| 3115s | because I've had a lot of people clear |
| 3117s | when they say we want the minigame they |
| 3118s | also say at the time they don't want |
| 3120s | those rewards we're happy to give them |
| 3122s | different rewards with like some peel |
| 3126s | it's like you might have got for another |
| 3127s | mini game we haven't got I don't know |
| 3129s | but it'll thinking about I would rather |
| 3135s | do musics idea in the chat there which |
| 3137s | is a stray dog quest free to play by |
| 3140s | Frank me Vicky's members have cats yeah |
| 3143s | so they can have the dog dogs got |
| 3146s | different dogs different stray dogs then |
| 3148s | Garen saving all the stray dogs and feel |
| 3150s | very little fuzzy inside if anything |
| 3151s | feed Blakely have the cats and members |
| 3153s | we have the dogs because dogs are we're |
| 3154s | better than cats I think I grew me you |
| 3157s | know when you're shooing away the stray |
| 3159s | dog what is the sound that you actually |
| 3162s | make how would you go about you know the |
| 3165s | yeah that the sound got imagined sir the |
| 3169s | boss like it's very yeah alright let me |
| 3172s | sorry about that no it's fine don't |
| 3175s | worry you might want to harm again |
| 3177s | looking after White Wolf so the results |
| 3179s | of the straw poll that we held our in we |
| 3181s | you guys if the special Ironman Mack |
| 3183s | escapes that we showed earlier should be |
| 3185s | added to game or police if you guys |
| 3188s | liked the idea and 84% of you said yes |
| 3191s | which is Mike amazing see you know the |
| 3195s | new cosmetic that takes away nothing |
| 3197s | from anybody |
| 3198s | well I'll move on to the next question |
| 3208s | then I appreciate we're running short on |
| 3210s | time |
| 3212s | so I've got a couple questions here with |
| 3215s | pre-written |
| 3216s | answers I just want to get out quickly I |
| 3218s | say pre-written from other mods that I |
| 3221s | wanted scripted in the chat there we go |
| 3224s | so one of the questions was from crazy |
| 3227s | Shane and he asked a few players who |
| 3230s | want to know about this they said can we |
| 3232s | get more player mods and an application |
| 3234s | system would be nice so Steve W mod |
| 3237s | Steve W one of the player support |
| 3239s | managers wrote an answer to this I just |
| 3241s | want to get it out there he says I agree |
| 3243s | that we could do with more P mods in |
| 3245s | old-school particularly to help us |
| 3246s | tackle some of the disruptive behavior |
| 3248s | such as scamming games of chance fake |
| 3250s | giveaways doubling and fishing too often |
| 3252s | plagued high-traffic areas such as the |
| 3254s | ground exchange we currently have 1641 |
| 3257s | player mods and 32% of them which is 514 |
| 3261s | are in old school we're actively |
| 3264s | recruiting right now and carrying out |
| 3266s | all our checks about sorry and our about |
| 3268s | 100 old school specific new P mods will |
| 3271s | be joining next week and all of our |
| 3273s | immediate recruitment over the coming |
| 3274s | weeks will also be for all school only |
| 3276s | until we get to around 900 or so in |
| 3279s | total in terms of an application system |
| 3282s | we have looked at that in the past and |
| 3283s | didn't find it very effective in a |
| 3286s | like-for-like comparison we actually |
| 3287s | found more people who were suitable to |
| 3289s | be a p-mod just by random selection than |
| 3291s | if taken from a recruitment thread that |
| 3293s | we ran on our forums as a trial I guess |
| 3296s | it's something about a type of person |
| 3297s | who applies for it isn't necessarily |
| 3299s | what we're looking for as well who asks |
| 3302s | the VP's not the sort of person who |
| 3303s | ought to be P mod in general I think we |
| 3307s | tried the application process for at jag |
| 3308s | exposes to it |
| 3314s | what Modric said on stream it seemed a |
| 3318s | remarkably dick move the W goes on to |
| 3322s | say if anyone wants to maximize their |
| 3324s | chances of being selected for invitation |
| 3327s | to be a team on J's Ronan always gonna |
| 3332s | respond instead he says make sure you |
| 3335s | have your Authenticator enabled as |
| 3337s | that's one of the requirements or |
| 3338s | something that we look for otherwise you |
| 3340s | won't even make it to manual review and |
| 3342s | that's something to bear in mind so |
| 3344s | that's that since he didn't mention his |
| 3347s | reason for it I think it's because they |
| 3349s | don't want to give player mod mutes to |
| 3352s | people who then might lose their |
| 3353s | accounts and yeah then half of the hi |
| 3355s | Jackie go around muting which might |
| 3359s | relate to other topics on this stream of |
| 3361s | course but that's why he he's doing it's |
| 3363s | not just to plug the Authenticator that |
| 3378s | you can't be talking all the females we |
| 3381s | have in chat crash people would |
| 3389s | understand it when they do get a new P |
| 3391s | mode they don't just give them the mute |
| 3393s | and send them out running I believe |
| 3395s | there's a sort of probation it's a |
| 3397s | Muslim yeah yeah so that might be why |
| 3401s | they don't just appoint 20,000 all at |
| 3402s | once and let them go wild yeah although |
| 3406s | P mods gone wild on the on the intrinsic |
| 3407s | it might be a different thing altogether |
| 3410s | there is just a comment on that there is |
| 3413s | a quite a thorough process before I |
| 3414s | understand I used to handle the P mode |
| 3416s | stuff myself but now it's mod Mouse in |
| 3418s | support if they are proper now the spam |
| 3422s | there I think that's on you more than me |
| 3427s | but yes so they there is a thorough |
| 3431s | process mod Mouse vets the marseilles |
| 3434s | applications the people that are being |
| 3435s | considered to invitation and then like I |
| 3438s | said there's sort of probation period |
| 3439s | before they're allowed some use anybody |
| 3441s | so we archive quite thorough making sure |
| 3442s | no one does go on a sort of rampage |
| 3444s | muting spree and that's |
| 3445s | although mod Steve W Samsa didn't cover |
| 3449s | it it's probably why he's not just going |
| 3452s | with a session of let's have lots of |
| 3453s | them that will help because he knows |
| 3455s | what happens if you get lots of them |
| 3457s | they go out of control everyone is a P |
| 3459s | mode but no one whose beacon that we |
| 3461s | know toxicity like full top-level IQ |
| 3464s | that is so I'm gonna move on to the next |
| 3468s | question which also has an answer from |
| 3471s | one of our artists I wanted to get this |
| 3472s | in before the end of the stream just a |
| 3474s | random uno asks what are the challenges |
| 3476s | when it comes to good name right it's a |
| 3480s | good name we haven't said anything no |
| 3482s | they asked what are the challenges when |
| 3484s | it comes to creating art assets for old |
| 3486s | school presumably you can't follow |
| 3488s | conventional standards for modern games |
| 3490s | while fitting the old school aesthetic |
| 3492s | so this is an answer from mod Rai and |
| 3495s | I'm gonna try and go through it is quite |
| 3497s | a paragraph that he's written but I'm |
| 3499s | gonna try and squeeze in he says the |
| 3501s | challenge in creating old school assets |
| 3503s | mainly comes down to the limitations we |
| 3504s | face with our tools alongside the unique |
| 3506s | way the game is rendered but on the flip |
| 3508s | side |
| 3509s | these actually help to influence and |
| 3510s | reinforce our core art style by |
| 3512s | providing hard lines that we can't cross |
| 3514s | with our designs I could easily write a |
| 3516s | whole essay on this but one example of a |
| 3518s | challenge we face on basically every |
| 3520s | asset is working around the very low |
| 3521s | resolution vertex grid we have relative |
| 3524s | to modern games which can be seen when |
| 3526s | bits of geometry seemingly snap about |
| 3528s | during animations this gives all |
| 3530s | movement or not oh sorry this gives all |
| 3532s | movement in old school a very distinct |
| 3534s | look that no other game replicates as |
| 3535s | far as I'm aware we mainly take this |
| 3537s | into account when designing worn items |
| 3539s | and NPCs so the details and silhouettes |
| 3541s | aren't lost if some close proximity |
| 3543s | vertices move to different positions |
| 3545s | this is less of an issue on props and |
| 3547s | environment models because of their |
| 3548s | static nature but it's still enforces |
| 3550s | limits for example the level of detail |
| 3552s | and smoothness of curve services they |
| 3553s | can't be created so there you go anyone |
| 3556s | who sort of knows more about art and |
| 3558s | game design sorry game graphics than I |
| 3560s | do was well before the understand that |
| 3562s | better that was a really good answer |
| 3567s | guys that was a good question you missed |
| 3570s | it go back and have another listen I got |
| 3573s | distracted by the turtles I kind of |
| 3574s | quite entertaining exhibition what |
| 3577s | people just |
| 3579s | relaxing like a screensaver I'm aware |
| 3583s | we've hit six o'clock just before we |
| 3585s | wrap things up we have an announcement |
| 3587s | to make we've actually been nominated |
| 3588s | for an award don't want to give more |
| 3590s | details on that mod sweet exclamation |
| 3592s | mark BAFTA in the chat very exciting |
| 3595s | we've been nominated for the EE mobile |
| 3597s | game of the Year at the BAFTA Game |
| 3600s | Awards you can vote by following that |
| 3603s | link there we're up against some pretty |
| 3606s | tough competitors but yeah I think |
| 3610s | remember a shout yeah a so the release |
| 3613s | is strong hmm I think I'm right in |
| 3616s | saying if you vote it gives you a chance |
| 3618s | to win win yeah win tickets there was |
| 3623s | himself well everybody is eligible voter |
| 3627s | yeah that you have to be a UK resident |
| 3629s | or at least I know UK phone number yeah |
| 3632s | right yeah so I guess that just about |
| 3637s | wraps things up so we didn't have time |
| 3639s | to get round to your chat questions I'll |
| 3640s | make a note of them and include them |
| 3641s | next time thank everyone in the chat for |
| 3645s | watching and and listening and thank you |
| 3648s | to everyone on the couch with me this |
| 3649s | week and we'll catch you in the next one |
| 3653s | bye bye bye bye |
| 3660s | [Music] |