Just one change included today which is in regards to the Bow of Faerdhinen and the way corruption works, following your feedback!
No further changes are planned at this stage and we're hopeful that we'll be going live with an in-game poll for the buffs tomorrow :)
Thanks all for the continued feedback and support <3
8 dart tips per amethyst makes them not worth making. The only players that benefit from this are bots.
It's very simple for us to change that should it be an issue in the future, but we'd rather wait and see how it impacts things when live than over doing it on the initial release.
Only bow changes? We've been clear about our displease other things in the blog such as Aemthsyt darts and their broken supply, crystal armor upkeep, why the blog still shows archer ring for inferno first cape and the cherry on top no mention about how future range armor ranged STR bonus will interact with the blowpipe.
Amethyst darts are easy enough for us to change once they've been live in-game for a while and we can look at the actual data.
Crystal armour upkeep really shouldn't be that bad considering you don't lose charges if you don't take damage. This includes when using the correct Protection Prayers and when you get hit 0. Though again, it's something we can easily monitor and adjust if necessary once we have the data to validate any changes.
I didn't see a need to mention how future Ranged armour with Ranged strength bonuses will interact with the Toxic Blowpipe seeing as it will be as per it is now. The more Ranged strength, the stronger it becomes - but at the same time other Ranged weapons benefit from the same improvements too outside of the Crystal Armour.
You need to start having version numbers for these updates to clarify the timeline.
There's a changelog that shows the date of when changes were made and what the changes were. Would adding a number to that really help? I'd understand if we were publishing new and separate blogs, but we're not (and last time we did that, everyone seemed to hate it).
From the blog
This will help to ensue that the bow remains balanced from a cost vs power perspective
But you're also making the second best dart ammo for the blowpipe to have an expected cost of 50-70% of rune darts unless a miracle happens to double the price of amethysts overnight. Can you please be consistent?
The introduction of Amethyst darts was always going to have an impact on the cost of using the Blowpipe. It was something we raised during initial blogs but ultimately players felt there was a need to introduce a more available type of ammunition seeing as Mithril/Adamantite would be less effective.
There's a reason we're not looking to immediately introduce new ways to obtain Dragon Darts and instead waiting on how much things change with the introduction of Amethyst (if they pass the polls) - this is to maintain that higher upkeep cost.
That seems about as consistent as we can be while trying to please as many people as possible.
This whole equipment rebalance has been an emotional rollercoaster!
It most certainly has! I think we're near the end of this saga though. My hairline will appreciate that.
Maybe it is just a personal preference that doesn't translate to everyone. But something like "Range Meta Changes 1.0", "Range Meta Changes 2.0", "Range Meta Changes 2.1". Makes a lot of sense to me, and I would assume anyone with a coding background which seems to be a substantial portion of the runescape demographic.
But i can respect that I might not have the experience of public relations with thousands of people, and this could just be one of those instances where an annoying critic (me) is making a suggestion that doesn't work due to their limited perspective.
I personally would prefer we just published blogs that detailed only the changes, but I tried that with the early iterations of the ERB blogs and well... let's just say it didn't go down very well :D
There's always room for improvement though and I will keep this in mind for future thought!
Amethyst darts have no place in the game. Do not wait and see for this one. Ballpark numbers tip the balance of current progression for both mains and irons, if any it should be a dart add on to prevent exaclt what the numbers say.
Is it too much to ask to corrupt crystal armor to just use gp to recharge it instead of shards? Prif content is boring to do just for shards and upkeep on armor still sucks.
Range STR on gear is what's gonna break the blowpipe again in the future and why all this "rebalancing" won't future proof the same weapons that always break something. We're still gonna not be able to have an amulet with +10 range str or a ring with +8 str just because it breaks the blowpipe while if affects less other weapons. An overhaul of this mechanic is mandatory to future proof any content we're being promised behind this "rebalancing"
The changes to the blowpipe make it a lot more reliant on accuracy now to remain as effective though. Sure, increasing the Ranged strength slightly will only make it better, but that is emphasised against lower Defence targets, which is exactly what we're trying to aim for.
Looking forward to the updated (again) (again) post
Please no more :(
How much is the dhcb dps gonna change when just doing a dragon task but using dragonfireward?
What gear setup would you be using? Do you have Rigour and will you be using Ranging potions?
I can try and find out for you :)
Appreciate all your hard work dude!
Thank you so much!
So does the Bow of Faerdhinen not work with Armadyl? Or is the DPS just so bad it’s not worth showing on the graphs.
The main benefit of the bow is the damage and accuracy increase of the Crystal armour. It can still be used without it, but it's not going to be as strong.
Given how busy the graphs were we just opted for the best setup to give a general idea.
Do we know when these changes will be polled/implemented?
The poll will go live tomorrow - hard to say on implementation until we know what has/hasn't passed!
Armadyl top and bottom with slayer helm, zenite necklace, archers I, bgloves. Thank you for your response!
DPS numbers are against Vorkath specifically, exact DPS depends on which dragon and the defensive stats of the particular dragon.
If you used Diamond Bolts & Eagle Eye:
54 max-hit in Live and 8.126 DPS
55 max-hit post-changes and 8.274 DPS
If you used Dragon Diamond Bolts with Eagle Eye:
61 max-hit with 9.179 DPS regardless of the changes
the change to the bow of Faerdhinen reducing the ranged strength and accuracy. how much worse dps is it than before. people were saying before it was similar dps to a tbow with rune arrows. what would it be similar to now?
The changes to the bow mean approximately 3-4% accuracy loss overall and 1 max hit from it's previous proposal.
So does the Bow of Faerdhinen not work with Armadyl? Or is the DPS just so bad it’s not worth showing on the graphs.
If it helps, the power of them goes as follows:
BoF with armour > Crystal Bow with armour > BoF with Armadyl > Crystal Bow with Armadyl
Hairline needs the redemption to proc lmao just messing thanks for ur hard work
I liked that one, cheers for the laugh :D
u/JagexAyiza Can I start to grind for an inactive saeldor now and it be reverted to the seed after the update? Or do I need to wait so I don't have to spend the shards to change it?
You'll be able to convert a blade into the bow at a cost of 500 Crystal Shards in total (250 to convert to the blade into an Enhanced Crystal Weapon Seed, then another 250 to convert that seed into the Bow of Faerdhinen).
So bow is absolutely not worth using without armour, got it.
Kind of? It's still decent. Worth noting that Crystal Bow in the proposal (with armour) is about 3 max hits higher than in game right now.
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