[2019] Settled replies to Spinning Wheel request in Morytania.

Damn, suppose we can’t update Morytania any more. What a shame, I had designs for Slepe way before swamp man became a thing.

EDIT: I've not missed the point here, I'm exaggerating for effect. Where is the line drawn? Whenever we pitch Morytania content in the future it'll be torn apart to see in what ways it benefits specific limited accounts. Even before that, we find ourselves asking "How will this impact X player?" while designing content, whether we want it to or not. Regardless, we'll be accused of catering either way.

For instance, when we first pitched the Hosidius dungeon design back in October, it came to my attention that it would be the first tanner on Zeah and the first one underground, this hadn't occurred to me prior to making that decision. Now it haunts me whenever I sit down to design a new area.

I do understand, he doesn’t want his progression made easier and any update to Morytania runs the risk of making it easier. I’ve ran into this problem before where I’ve worked on a design and it’s made Zeah only ironmens game mode easier or a new dungeon that makes caveman mode easier. So many different restricted accounts exist they’re almost certainly having an impact on the way we design future content whether we want it to or not.

The consensus is that we don’t cater purposefully to Ironman accounts but we get accused of it all the time when just making generic content. It’s kind of irritating, that’s my point.

I was exaggerating initially, we won’t stop updating areas because of singular accounts, even if they’re incredibly popular.

In this instance, I agree it would be going out of our way to cater to Settled. But what if in the future we want to add a spinning wheel to Morytania for a different reason? Suddenly we can’t because we’d be accused of doing it for Settled.

I suppose locking content behind that quest would certainly make things smoother, but in other cases it may seem like a forced requirement rather than a logical one.

🤔 Now that’s thinking outside the box!

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That’s not what I’m saying and you know it. I too thoroughly enjoy his videos, after all. What I’m saying is we shouldn’t be blocked from updating the game because a singular player wishes to restrict himself. Nor should we go out of the way to cater for them specifically.

You’re not seeing the larger picture here, it’s not just adding a spinning wheel. What if we added a monster that drops an RCB to Morytania? It’s not completely out of the question but would be seen by some as catering to specific builds.

The point I’m making is that new content can have an unforeseen impact on an area locked account. How are we to prove it wasn’t on purpose?

A great example was the deranged archaeologist on fossil island; on release he dropped amulets of glory which made obtaining one way easier for Ironmen which saw pushback from the players so we changed the drop to crystal keys instead. Players don’t want us to cater to specific builds while also catering to them simultaneously.

I think it’s a valid concern but I suppose it’s the nature of the beast. I was just opening up a dialogue on the matter and it’s nice to hear a wide range of player opinions as they may shape the way I go about my work in the future :)

It wasn’t, you just read it that way. Text is best read emotionless, otherwise you could completely change the entire message of the text.